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Speaker 1: changing it with the Betel Cast. Hi, welcome to the

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Speaker 1: Bechtel Cast. My name is Jamie Loftus. My name is

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Speaker 1: Caitlin Darante, and this is the Bechtel Cast which you're

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Speaker 1: listening to. My name is Jamie Loftus. Oh god, we've

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Speaker 1: already ruined it. No this is that? Was that? No?

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Speaker 1: Caitlin just read her first Alison Bechdel books. Oh I didn't.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I didn't finish it. I started it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: well just right at the top. We're not qualified to

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Speaker 1: I have one college degree. I have to college degree. Okay,

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Speaker 1: good now that everyone else. Both of them are in film,

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Speaker 1: so that's why I we're qualifying. I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: We don't know. I'm a woman in stem j K.

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Speaker 1: That's becoming a recurring that's a motif of ours. Now

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Speaker 1: to women in Stem. Yeah, well, because any movie would

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Speaker 1: movie theory to get get a five nipples from us,

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Speaker 1: while women in Stem, where they're steampunk culture was not.

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Speaker 1: And that's really all it things to get me on board.

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Speaker 1: So we're we're a podcast we talk about the roles

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Speaker 1: of women in movies. Yeah, usually they're not portrayed very well,

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Speaker 1: and we're here to call it out. It's funny that

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Speaker 1: the premise, but now it's just like our podcast is

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Speaker 1: still in its infancy. You know, we're still learning, we're

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Speaker 1: getting better. Anyway, should we introduce our guests? Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 1: He has a show that he does it UCB called

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Speaker 1: Shitty Jumps, and he was a writer for the show

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Speaker 1: Workaholics on Comedy Central. Ben Rogers. Hi, Then, now, because

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Speaker 1: have strapped you to the chair and you're only allowed

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Speaker 1: up for it. Yeah. Yeah, well, I mean we did

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Speaker 1: pepper spray you if you interject, and that's my only rule.

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Speaker 1: I just want pepper spray someone that's on my bucket list, really,

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Speaker 1: I'm really biting my tongue because you guys could have

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Speaker 1: stopped squirming so much. Just going to the audio is

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Speaker 1: chair as well. That's right. Sorrd is hard not have

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Speaker 1: men a part of this anymore. We're just making more

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Speaker 1: And that's why you have these huge biceps. That's why

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Speaker 1: be a pretty sympathy character, where you know, at first

423
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 1: Ali is like, no, I don't want to talk to you,

424
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 1: I don't want to take you back. I have a

425
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 1: roommate now, blah blah blah, And then like it turns

426
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 1: out like, oh, he wrote you a letter to apologize.

427
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, her getting back with him a very abrupt

428
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 1: which I think it's more problem than just like kind

429
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,640
Speaker 1: of sloppy storytelling than anything. But it happens very abruptly.

430
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 1: What I do like about that, though, is that you

431
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,880
Speaker 1: see that she's engaged because you see her diamond ring,

432
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 1: but you do not see that scene playoff on screen. Well,

433
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 1: I think they were engaged at the start of the

434
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 1: movie because that's part of the reason why he was

435
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 1: talking to was so Sam cheated on his with his

436
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 1: ex wife and they were I think like he was

437
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 1: telling her that she's going to get engaged, and then

438
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 1: they slept together, and so that threw Ali off. So

439
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,199
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, but like, don't get that together with

440
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 1: that guy, Ali, Come on, So they were already engaged. Okay,

441
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 1: they we're already engaged. Classic story. Somebody cheats, she takes

442
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 1: him back. I mean, hey, some people do that. Hey

443
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 1: he gets his he gets stabbed in the it's would

444
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:18,479
Speaker 1: that have killed him with that penetrated his brain? But

445
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 1: you have to really I was really sutilized that take

446
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 1: him with it. I feel like it takes a little

447
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 1: more forced I was surprised that he died immediately. But

448
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 1: then somehow the gay best friend didn't die. That was like,

449
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 1: I mean the injuries, who knows, because I thought, for

450
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 1: sure the gay best friend is dead, maybe the maybe

451
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 1: the fiance, I'll come back to life. But it was

452
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,919
Speaker 1: the opposite. You know who survives is the cat. The

453
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 1: cat keeps Graham company in that bath. Was very honorable

454
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,400
Speaker 1: of that cat. That's like, you know it didn't start

455
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:56,679
Speaker 1: eating cat because I think that the cat waits a

456
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 1: couple of days. Isn't that the rule? It's like something

457
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 1: like four days a cat and like six days for dogs.

458
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 1: It's like when you're go on a date with someone,

459
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 1: you have to wait three days to text them back.

460
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 1: It's the same with cat. You gotta wait wait three

461
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 1: days to text them back. That's the rule. Now, I

462
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: don't know that's so. I would be like I thought,

463
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 1: were I thought you were blowing me off, you're ghosting me.

464
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: If someone, yeah, someone took three days, I would fully assume.

465
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, well this didn't go as well as I

466
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 1: thought it did. Uh yeah, it's an old rule. Um,

467
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 1: I never subscribed to it at all. So I thought

468
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,199
Speaker 1: it was like two days to call somebody or like

469
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: text them, Um, after you first get there, like info

470
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: maybe like the initial like give me your number, you

471
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 1: like wait a day. That makes sense, that one I

472
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 1: make that makes it. But like once you hang out

473
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 1: with someone, if you have fun with them, why wait?

474
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 1: I mean that's the advantage of we're in the brink

475
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: of nuclear war. Let's feed things up. No time to wait.

476
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: See this, Okay, we're taking a serious e tour, but

477
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 1: I want to get your opinion since we're on the subject.

478
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 1: I feel like I usually if I'm asking somebody for

479
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: their numbers something, I will text them. I'm not going

480
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: to call him. Now. If you're going to break up

481
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 1: with that person and you've never talked on the phone,

482
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 1: do you then call on the phone or do you

483
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 1: tell you meet them face to face? Noo? Okay, yeah

484
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: if it if the relationship never okay, if the relationship

485
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: never went past texting, don't suddenly call because then you

486
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: know something's wrong. You're like, wait, we don't. Shouldn't you

487
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: know something that is wrong? No, just they'll know when

488
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 1: they read the text. I'd say this because I very

489
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: recently did it. I was like, well, we only text

490
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 1: each other, so I'm just gonna text him and then

491
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,199
Speaker 1: he'll know. And I'm saying like, you're at the stage

492
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: of like still kind of feeling each other out of

493
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: like and the person's like, hey, you want to do something,

494
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 1: and then you have to be like no. So if

495
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: you're still in the stage. Yeah, I definitely heard some

496
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: people have blowback to that. If like you're doing this

497
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: over text, oh see, I would let's just do it.

498
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: I don't, Yeah, I would rather someone like if it's

499
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: a real, like an actual relationship, that's different, and you know,

500
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: break up with me to my face so you can

501
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: watch me cry. That's what I was talking because that's

502
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: why what I need you to see. But if it's

503
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: just like a flirtation, it's like, if you don't want

504
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: to hang out again, don't tell me your voice it's horrible. Yeah,

505
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,120
Speaker 1: or Recovering from breakups is hard, and it's a big

506
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: part of single wife female. It's true. She's devastated. She

507
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: cries in like three different scenes. She cries a lot.

508
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: She reads a sheet off her bed, like, no, this

509
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: is how I have to cope with this bed can't

510
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: have sheets. I like that, just like I don't want

511
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: my bed smelling like this person that cheated on Mealy,

512
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: they just fucked on it. And now she's finding out

513
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: like he sucks some other woman. I do love that.

514
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: There isn't she finds out is because of an answering

515
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: machine mishap. There's a lot of good answering machine stuff. Yeah,

516
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: because when like Jennifer Jason miss answering machines what I did, Like,

517
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: I think it's one of the very first scenes is

518
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: his ex wife calls Ali answers and we're used to

519
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: sing in movies if there's an ex girlfriend or an

520
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: ex wife or something a very like bitter petty relationship

521
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: between the two, like oh, the ex and the new

522
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: girlfriends and they hate each other and they're jealous of

523
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: each other and too. I like the alley is just like, oh,

524
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: what's your ex wife? Whoctor? I think this movie takes

525
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: a pretty sympathetic view of almost every character, even the

526
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: fucking Slee's bag like has a heroic moment you mean

527
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: ned Yer crazy? Yeah, and his name in this movie

528
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 1: is Myerson Meyerson. So Stephen Tablowski of the popular podcasts

529
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: The Tablowski Files, Right, he does that. St Oh, I

530
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: didn't know that a wild moment where it's like, is

531
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: the rape guy gonna end up the movie? Like they

532
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: can't do that. They can't make this guy save the day, right,

533
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:20,239
Speaker 1: which they don't know was that's insane that they're like,

534
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: you know how we're going to get someone to let's

535
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 1: talk him and she was kidnapped. Let's give him a

536
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: redeeming moment. He's fucking piste off that she's like trying

537
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: to get paid for her work. Twenty minutes in like

538
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: a twenty minute segment, not full segment, but both he

539
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 1: and Sam shout you fucking batch when someone uh does

540
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: when someone wrongs them in a sexual manner, in this

541
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: actual amner. I mean, granted, what Jennifer decently did was

542
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: I want to talk about that that I think you

543
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: qualifies getting called to phone that was more justified. But

544
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: I'm still just like, he shouldn't be back with Bridget

545
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: Fonda anyway. She shouldn't have taken him back. But I

546
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: guess that's her. I mean, that's a that's a larger

547
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: conversation of whether you should take a cheater back. Um,

548
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean some people do. We don't know,

549
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: we don't know, we're not here, But that's not what

550
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: this podcast. That's a hard note. It would be like,

551
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just like sexuality is fluid. Whatever

552
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: else grow at anyway, Um, what were we talking about?

553
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 1: I'm really we're talking about what we were talking about,

554
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: Jennifer Jason Lee's insidious blow. You were talking about how

555
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: um Sam's ex wife is portrayed sympathetically but also hetty.

556
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: At the end of the movie is portraits. She fucking

557
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: kills all these people and they still kind of give

558
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: her a like she's just crazy, please forget we could

559
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: all go crazy, right, So it's not so much that

560
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: I was saying that his ex wife was portrayed sympathetically.

561
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: It was more than Ali, we don't see her being

562
00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: like this jealous, she's hetty woman. I was like, that's

563
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: nice to see on screen. We're not used to seeing that. Um, yeah,

564
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: she's comfortable with the fact that that he has an

565
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: X and that went as far as the story goes.

566
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: It makes it that much more devastating that, like she

567
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: should have been sucking. That's why being chill is not helpful.

568
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: If your chill, someone's sucking someone else, just don't disagree.

569
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: You know. I'll never knock be in chill. That's why

570
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: I'm always on high alert. I'm always like, I don't

571
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: want to put that out. I'm not putting that out

572
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: in the universe. Did you betray me? We we likely? Yes,

573
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: you know what? Probably? Yeah, I'm not saying that someone like,

574
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: people are always betraying you know. It's okay, I'm very

575
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: everyone somehow give each other life notes and somehow don't

576
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: have what it takes. Do not be betrayed. That's not

577
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I'm saying that everybody's a piece of shit,

578
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: every one except for me, right except for you? Okay,

579
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: thank you? Please tell me I'm perfect. You people are

580
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: perfect and I don't even have to so much. I

581
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: think you're perfect too, Jamie, all right, you're perfect too.

582
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: Then we don't know each other. We don't know. I mean, yeah,

583
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'll let you guys in on my secret. Well,

584
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: that's why you're bound abound waiting for everybody's nipples to

585
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: get hard. So, okay, I want to talk about the

586
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: scene where Hetty forcibly gives Sam a blowdram classic scene

587
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: that I would say, this is kind of what that

588
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: this movie is known for. Okay, So that's like the

589
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: famous that's like the famous scene. Gotcha did I miss?

590
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: How did she get into She looks so much like Ali?

591
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: So she gets obsessed with Ali so much and like

592
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,719
Speaker 1: her dead win that she like starts dressing like her.

593
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: There's a great scene where she realized where Ali realizes

594
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: that she and Hetty both have the same clothes. Now,

595
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: Ali basically bought all her same outfits. Then she went

596
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: to a hair salon and got an identical short haircut

597
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: and dyed her hair like orange. Right, Yeah, she got

598
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: the same terrible haircut. So so then she just swoops

599
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: into Sam's building and the security guard is like lets

600
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: her in because like his apartment. Yeah, that's his apartment

601
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: because it is called Hotel Atherton, So I get it.

602
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: Is it a hotel? Well, he's probably just long term

603
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: staying there because she gave him the boot. They kind

604
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: of have like that. Hetty just steals a lot of keys,

605
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: like that's just part of her. She's got the fucking everywhere.

606
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: She stold a letter that Sam said Ali with keys

607
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: in it. So I think that's how she had access

608
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: to his That was Ali's place, like because he moved out.

609
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: So what I was assuming is like, in my head

610
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: I justified it by she just like went to the

611
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: doorman and was looking like yeah because he called her like,

612
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: you know, Mrs Jones or whatever. What confused me about

613
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: that scene is that, Okay, by the time Sam figures

614
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: out it's not his fiance He's about to nut. I

615
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: get that. He nuts, He's almost there. I get it. Afterwards,

616
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 1: he simply rolls over. Why the aftermath of that is

617
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: really weird. She gave such an incredible blow job. He's

618
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 1: all out of sword a moment. Well, and it's also

619
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: jet lagged. He was just on a trip. I think

620
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: you're kind of a lot of slack there. He rolls

621
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: over when I think you're cutting him slack by he

622
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: knew that it wasn't Ali. Well, I just think it's

623
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: a cool choice for him too. I still think he's

624
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: with cheat on her. I do think that's true. I

625
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: give the movie credit that, um they didn't have Like

626
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: it would have been lame if he came and then

627
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 1: she popped her head up and it was not his fiancee.

628
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 1: Like I thought it was cool that, Like he caes

629
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: her and it's like oh no, and then he's like,

630
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 1: oh I can't stop. Anyways, that made it so much

631
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 1: tension and like and so much more conflict there of like, Okay,

632
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 1: she kind of proves his point, like in her crazy mentality,

633
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 1: she's trying to come guys, it's all good. What I

634
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: wasn't I wasn't upset that he came. I was upset

635
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: they rolled over. I was like, you should kick her out,

636
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:45,240
Speaker 1: Like why are you so feeling his chest? As yeah,

637
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 1: and he's not pushing her. I felt the choice like

638
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: from either like the script or the actor was just

639
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: like to be he's so in shock of like, oh no,

640
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: I just fu fucked up so bad that he doesn't

641
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: know what it did, right, Like I almost interpreted it

642
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: interpreted as it was like sort of sexual assault and

643
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: that like I kind of resisted, but like also kind

644
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 1: of didn't, and then like I could argue that it

645
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: was like I think that he was ripped. He was

646
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: ripped by her, like I kind of just fooled into

647
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: a blow job under which lasted second. He was like,

648
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: I know this helmet haircut. She's great. She goes to

649
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: that S and M club and just sucking sucks dick

650
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 1: the whole time club. Oh yeah, that was great. I

651
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: was like, oh yeah, of course she goes to this

652
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: Like it didn't it too wild? What a fun movie.

653
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: It's just I miss I missed this era of movies,

654
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: Like they just don't make weird movies like this, And

655
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: this was a mainstream columb yeah, like it's so surprised

656
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 1: it's not more famous. I get like, I want to

657
00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: make other people watch this movie, and I like, really

658
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: I just miss like I do like when there was

659
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 1: some element of weird sexual tension and just like movies

660
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: being a little bit more risque um which they are

661
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 1: now they're all pretty watered down. I mean, there's more

662
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 1: risk a stuff on cable, but it's just well, something

663
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: interesting pretty came when you go to the movies. Something

664
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,959
Speaker 1: interesting about this movie. To me, it was like that.

665
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like if this movie was made now,

666
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: because a very very similar version of this movie that

667
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: I did see that was very bad, called The Roommate

668
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: came out when I was in college, and it was

669
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: about a college roommate. Right, so I read that this

670
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: that that movie was criticized for copying this movie exactly. Yeah,

671
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 1: it's like basically the same movie but way worse, and

672
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: but it's weird. I feel like if people made this

673
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 1: movie right now, it would be like stigmatized for like well,

674
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: mental health and Nona, And first of all, I love

675
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: mental health. I realized that I had a bipolar pill

676
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 1: lodged in my laptop when I took it out. However,

677
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 1: I like, you know, if if that were the basic,

678
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: like Yardstick, then there wouldn't be movies like the one

679
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 1: where Kathy Bates goes nuts or the one where Gloss

680
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: goes nuts misery. If it'll attraction. You know what else

681
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: I think you like kind of um male version of

682
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:29,919
Speaker 1: this movie is Cable Guy. I've never seen and it's

683
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,240
Speaker 1: like unfortunate, but I really do enjoy all of those

684
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: movies where someone just fucking goes nuts, and those don't

685
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: come out very much anymore. I feel like for that reason,

686
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 1: right right, I don't know problematic opinion, why, Jamie, I

687
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 1: just do I feel like I see, like I said before,

688
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,399
Speaker 1: single white female relationships pop up here in the air

689
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 1: of you realize your roommates dressing exactly like you now,

690
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: or picking up all these qualities, like you can see

691
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 1: that amongst a bunch of friends where it starts to

692
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 1: get a little stalkery, and I find it fascinating. And

693
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: I do feel like this movie kind of hits something

694
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: in that zone that is real. Yeah, it's all it's

695
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 1: all exaggerated, but it's so I don't know. I was

696
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: put off by way less of it than I expected

697
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: to be put off by. But we were talking about

698
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,720
Speaker 1: a scene where she goes to she follows Hetty, Ali

699
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,879
Speaker 1: follows Heady to an S and M club and she's

700
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 1: very uncomfortable there and I can't if some woman comes

701
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 1: on door and it's like, says something like you want

702
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: to play or something like that. I can't remember what

703
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:40,760
Speaker 1: exactly she says. Um. And then she sees Hetty hitting

704
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: on a guy that looks just like Sam, and she's like,

705
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: you look like my sister's fiance. It's just a really nice,

706
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: extra creepy layer that you throw on there. Oh it's

707
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: it's and and then like people, doesn't someone presume doesn't

708
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: someone call Hetty Alley in that scene? And I may

709
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 1: sing that up um, I think a few people are

710
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: like I thought you were, Like, I think Graham the

711
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: gay the gay friend upstairs does. I loved Graham at first.

712
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 1: I thought I didn't know at first, when Graham is

713
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: overhearing Sam and Ali break up the first time at

714
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 1: the beginning of the movie, I was like, Oh, this

715
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: guy is a weird person who lives upstairs. But then

716
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: he turned their trick. This amazing guy who in like

717
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: the end of the second act is like, by the way,

718
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 1: I hear you fo a lot. The fucking listening through

719
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 1: the vans ends up being an important story point plan.

720
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: But it turns out she didn't know, because apparently Graham

721
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: either doesn't funk a lot or goes to a second location.

722
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,240
Speaker 1: You don't know. Yeah, Graham's class acts. He's a class

723
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: I mean, he works real quietly, respect for his neighbor

724
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: class of people fuck in silence. Well, he mentions at

725
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: the beginning that he doesn't have any he doesn't have

726
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: a guy to fuck, so he's like, I'm single. We

727
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:04,240
Speaker 1: want to Graham spin often, I know a single. Somebody

728
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 1: writes some Graham fan fiction or it's Graham and his

729
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: cat and he's talking about all the crazy people who

730
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 1: have been in and out of this building. Graham truly

731
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:17,760
Speaker 1: is first an amazing friend. Like he calls his psychologist

732
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,720
Speaker 1: friend at like eleven at night and was like, listen,

733
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: there's a situation going on with my friend you I'll

734
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,720
Speaker 1: put her on And then he I mean, I'm glad

735
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: that he wasn't murdered. Yeah, in the end, he survives, right,

736
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: does does the And I did see that the writer

737
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: of the movie is gay, And I'm curious is like

738
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: projecting himself on to Graham a little bit, and that's

739
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 1: why he's like sort of this very noble, heroic figure.

740
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: That makes a lot of sense because I was shocked

741
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: that the gay character lived until the end, like like

742
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: once she entered his apartment. That's why I thought that

743
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,439
Speaker 1: the fiancee was going to live and not Graham, because

744
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, it is the basically definitely

745
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: expect Sam to live. I also liked because you guys

746
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: were talking about whether Sam would really die if you

747
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: got to heal through his his eyeball, but I thought

748
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,760
Speaker 1: it was cool, just like I think it's a visually

749
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: cool way to kill somebody, just as like a movie

750
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: trope those specific shoes. Yes, that's like you say, like

751
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 1: that on your line, but like they show off the

752
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 1: shoes in a really weird way where like the heel

753
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,240
Speaker 1: it looks like a knife and it has this medacine

754
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: quality about it, and so it kind of pays off

755
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: when it goes through his eyeball. There's a bunch of

756
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: like plan payoff situations like that in this movie that

757
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: I think are done pretty well. And like when you

758
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 1: said that you thought the Graham was going to be

759
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: like a creepy person. One of the reasons I like

760
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: this movie and think it's pretty good is that it

761
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 1: manipulates expectations a lot, totally make you think one thing

762
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: and then something. Yeah. I like movies that that play

763
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: into like you've seen a bunch of movies we're gonna

764
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: play against that. It was good because it was like

765
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: genuine like the earliest indication that because I truly had

766
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 1: no context for this movie, and like the earliest indication

767
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 1: you get is the music, Like even before you know

768
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,919
Speaker 1: that Jennifer Jason Lee is crazy, you hear that she's

769
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 1: crazy in the music, and then you see it, but

770
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't know, it unfolds kind of cool

771
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: the way she kind of like sneaks up on her

772
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 1: right and she enters the apartment, like doesn't knock on

773
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: the door, just like comes in. Ali's crying on the floor.

774
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: She gets like super close to her before she's like, hey,

775
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: I'm here. That was sort of like the first indicator

776
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: that there was something off about her. But it takes

777
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: a while after that before you see anymore like alarming behavior,

778
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 1: Like you almost get why Ali was befriending her because

779
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:50,879
Speaker 1: she's vulnerable, she needs a friend. Ali gets busted going

780
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 1: through her ship. Ali's that that was great. That's a

781
00:44:55,960 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: great She's going through her ship and like putting on

782
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: her clip I think I love this movie. I have

783
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 1: such a funny choice, like, yeah, Hetty's got clip on

784
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: arians that she's going to give you as a present.

785
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 1: It did. She was so touched. She's like, really, do

786
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: you want to give me your clip on? You're right,

787
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: Like it pays off a lot of stuff well that

788
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 1: it sets up earlier, which actually made me sad for

789
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 1: the current state of a lot of movies where I

790
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: feel like things are just so much lazier now than

791
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: they used to be. Like them when they insert that

792
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: shot of her throwing away the receipt from the pet

793
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: store when she bought the dog, just to have the

794
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: lie of her being like I found the dogs. They

795
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: were giving it away just such a small thing for

796
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 1: like just another Like she's already clearly crazy and like

797
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: they did a great job of showing us that, but

798
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,399
Speaker 1: they literally show you the receipts. Yeah, they're like, she's

799
00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: really checking off every box of like back when I

800
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: don't know that it probably didn't focus groups for this

801
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 1: and be like where didould get the dog from? Like

802
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: when they cared, I did feel like they really give

803
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 1: a funk about this b movie. Yeah, it's a fucking

804
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: thriller that like knows what it is, but like they

805
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 1: really care about it. Oh, we haven't talked about the

806
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: the weird bald guy rapes scene yet, Like we talked

807
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 1: about when it comes back as the hero almost hero

808
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: of the entire movie. But the scene where like you

809
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: know that he's you know from moment one because he

810
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 1: basically humiliates Pritchett Fonda at the beginning, which like you

811
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: could argue as a business power move, but he's like

812
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: it was humiliated. He would have never talked that way

813
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: if that if she was a man, you would have

814
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: that conversation would have gone entirely differently, right and then,

815
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: but he interpreted humiliating in her as like I probably

816
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: made her pretty horny then by really just crashing or

817
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 1: even that has a good sort of high load of it.

818
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: Of they set you up. You don't like him, but

819
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 1: she does such a great job that change like this

820
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: is great, Like you're really good, and so she lets

821
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: him in a little bit. He takes advantage of that

822
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: and then it is a creep But then that information

823
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 1: from when she was like, here's my mind and my

824
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 1: other numbers so we can talk about it later of

825
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 1: my neighbor's my neighbor's that's being important. Huh. It is

826
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: crazy because you know, you could very easily assume that

827
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: once he's an asshole to her at the beginning, and

828
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: then the you know, the second time you encounter him,

829
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 1: he's like, Wow, you did a great job. That could

830
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: very easily be like and that's it for that character.

831
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: That was his purpose. But then when he comes back

832
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: and that I wanted to just zoom in on his

833
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: face for that entire Weird Lecturers scene where he is

834
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: like so, you know, like just a very creepy massage,

835
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: and Bridge of Fonda does a great job of seeming

836
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: very set that it's happening, and you know she's gonna

837
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: like beat him up. You know, it's like he's not

838
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 1: you know. I like how she gives this volleyball like

839
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: classes are yeah, just sorry, And that helped that really

840
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: illustrated because the listeners we needed that. I nearly knocked

841
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: the mic over to demonstrate the move. But yeah, he

842
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: immediately goes into he rubs her down for a second

843
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: and it is immediately expecting a blowjob and it's just

844
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: sucking whipping his I want to use that line now,

845
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 1: can I at least turn around? I'm very romantic when

846
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 1: he started it? And I also want to use that

847
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: volleyball move at something, just smash a guy in the

848
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: ball the power like that. Yeah, and he goes, but

849
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: then he saves the day later he's like, you know what,

850
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: I'm actually a pretty good pretty good I tried to

851
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 1: write you. Because then he comes to leave, he's like

852
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: kind of rape and some like he's doing doing the

853
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:07,839
Speaker 1: same fucking backrupt moved later and he's like his older secretary,

854
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 1: which was another great Cassie choice. And that's even fun

855
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: where because she's like, he's like, shut off all the

856
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: computers right now, and she just leans back because she

857
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: wants it because she fucking hates him too. Yeah, Oh

858
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:23,720
Speaker 1: my god, that guy's story is crazy because then Jennifer

859
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: Jasonly calls him and is, you know, like his wife

860
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: and pretends to be a She's like, you know, like

861
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 1: you're going to be in big trouble if you ever

862
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 1: say anything, and but then just insane to me. I

863
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 1: wonder if that happens in the book insane to me

864
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: that he comes that he's like half redeemed when he's like,

865
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 1: this guy is bad, just kidding, he's fine just getting

866
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: his a rapist, but he might also save the day.

867
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: But also he's dead now. I really like how there

868
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: it's all real world struggles to me and all ship

869
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 1: that I feel like everybody can empathize with. Where it's

870
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: like she's got a fucking amazing apartment that's cheap, and

871
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: they want to hold on to it at all costs,

872
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 1: and it's a huge source. There's a huge source of

873
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 1: agony for her. She doesn't want to kick her out

874
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,240
Speaker 1: because but she has to because it's a great place.

875
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 1: And then she's got her own business and she's got

876
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: all this work stress, and then it's like job stress,

877
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: relationship stress, housing stress. It's like the ship everybody deals

878
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 1: with it feel like, and that's what this movie is about.

879
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: She just happened to get a crazy roommate. It's the

880
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,959
Speaker 1: other The scene. The last time I'll mention the Raby

881
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:40,760
Speaker 1: guy unless we unless we have more reason to is Mitch.

882
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep calling him Mitch Meyerson. Um. But the

883
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 1: scene after that happens. I thought it was very like,

884
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, like it was very well written to me,

885
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 1: Like right before um Hetty calls his wife and you're like, oh, yeah,

886
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: she's crazy. But that scene where Ali is saying like, oh,

887
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 1: it's actually my fault and like, now this is gonna

888
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: sabotage my career because I you know, rightfully volleyball this

889
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 1: guy in the nuts for being a rapist. But she's like,

890
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: you know, and this is somehow going to ruin my business.

891
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: And that felt like I was like, whoa, that's a

892
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 1: very real moment in the movie because I'm like, that's like,

893
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: that's not an atypical reaction to being you know, like assaulted,

894
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:31,240
Speaker 1: and it's and it's also probably not an atypical reaction

895
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 1: to what actually would have happened. And so that was

896
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:36,879
Speaker 1: weird and that that was sort of a moment where

897
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 1: I was like, if I was Ali, I would be

898
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: pro heady at that moment when you know, when she

899
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 1: was saying like, what you're not gonna do something about this,

900
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 1: it's clearly not your fault, and it's like okay, Hetty,

901
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: I'm with you, and then she does something crazy and

902
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 1: then kills like definitely was like the irredeemable thing that

903
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 1: she does. So she doesn't kill the cats, So I

904
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: like her. What is Cathy Bates kill? She kills something

905
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: in misery? Yeah, Glenn Close kills rabbit. I love Glenn class.

906
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 1: She boils it in a pot. She's a wild child.

907
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 1: I love her. I love damages. We should all watch it.

908
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: Fatal attraction. I feel like, is he started to get

909
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: the ball rolling enough? Like yeah, what leads to single

910
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 1: white female? That's true because it's fatal attractions like nine

911
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: like that a few years before. Yeah. Yeah, the late

912
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 1: eighties early nineties was the time for for this genre

913
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 1: of thriller. It's very good. Um, I want to talk

914
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:41,280
Speaker 1: about the For like the longest time watching this movie,

915
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:43,879
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, there's so much female nudity. Where,

916
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:47,399
Speaker 1: so many nipples, so many naked lady bonnies. Let's see

917
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 1: some dick. It's not going to happen, but it happens.

918
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:54,800
Speaker 1: We see a sliver, see sliver Stephen Webber's dick. Yeah,

919
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 1: Sam when he like because he does whip out of

920
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 1: bed after he gets his blow jaw u um and

921
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: he's upset. You get a little full frontal action in there,

922
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 1: but I was like, that's it. Actually, I like all

923
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: the nudity in it, because even the female nudity is

924
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 1: not necessarily like sexual, and a couple of the scenes

925
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: it's just like it's just people are naked, which I

926
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: think there should be more nudity in movies. I mean

927
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 1: I just think in like a realistic way because it

928
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: definitely plays into like she gets naked around her and

929
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: Ali's weirded it out by how often head he just

930
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 1: like takes her shirt off and stuff. Um, but I

931
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: don't know. I always think it's weird when like two

932
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: characters are in bed and they're not naked, like just

933
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 1: you're an actor being naked, and I think that I'm

934
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: not I'm not trying to sound like see dude, It's

935
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 1: like it's like something like getting get naked. You're in

936
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: the picture, you want to be in the movie. You

937
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: want to be in the picture, you take your top off.

938
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 1: Nobody sits in bed like that. I your nips is

939
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 1: a cube, do the rest. My favorite is when there's

940
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: a sex scene in the movie and the actress is

941
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 1: like clearly not agreed to show any nudity, so like

942
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: she's got her bra and while they're just banging banging

943
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: it out. That's how you say it, right. If it

944
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 1: were realistic, everyone would be naked except the man is

945
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: for some reason, wearing socks still really goes. Yeah. For me,

946
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: sex is as clothes as possible. Zero eye contact, well

947
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 1: for sure, zero eye contact. Let's not ruin the experience

948
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 1: by remember. Yeah, I'm just glad that we saw some

949
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 1: dick that was nice. I also, yeah, you gotta gotta

950
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: check it out. Is it is it worth the peak

951
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 1: virus watching the movie? Never mind? Uh? Yeah, I had

952
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 1: to uh subscribe to a one week free trial of

953
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 1: Stars via Amazon rent I rented on iTunes. I'm the

954
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 1: only one supporting this town, this town, hey ladies on

955
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 1: this movie that we all liked, and I'm the only

956
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 1: one been off the street. He was barking at women

957
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 1: on this I got some ice cubes like that walk

958
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 1: Oh god. The other The other thing I want to

959
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 1: talk about is um and I don't even know if

960
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: it's worth mentioning, but a lot of these, a lot

961
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: of the movie. It wouldn't have played out the way

962
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:55,320
Speaker 1: it had had Alie not been so nice and or naive.

963
00:55:55,480 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 1: For sure. Yeah, she's so accommodating to Hetty that it's

964
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 1: almost infuriating. I'm like, she bought you know that she's

965
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 1: bought all your clothes and that she it just but

966
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 1: that feels that's all kind of real with me too,

967
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: of like she's really trying to make the best out

968
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 1: of this situation where I feel like it it would be

969
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 1: possible for some audience members to sort of switch to

970
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 1: Hetty's side at any point by being like, well, Ali

971
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 1: was kind of mean to her at this moment or

972
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 1: at this moment, and like, but Ali's so overly nice

973
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 1: to her, even at the very end where Ali is like,

974
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: I'm still trying to forgive her and blah blah blah.

975
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 1: Like till the very end, she's too She's absolutely too

976
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: nice and forgiving literally everyone. I am truly shocked that

977
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: the ending is her thinking about how she's going to

978
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: try to forgive the woman that almost murdered her best

979
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:54,320
Speaker 1: friend and did for her fiance and killed her dog,

980
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 1: gave and killed her a dog, killed her a dog.

981
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna kill you would hey, no, you won't be

982
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 1: a star. I do like that that she that's just

983
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: surprised me, and I mean they do she has no friends.

984
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 1: She's trying to get over this breakup. It's yeah, also

985
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: another way, she's in the fashion age industry. Fashion there's

986
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 1: but also in that ending segment, there's a weird reference

987
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 1: to Graham saying like Sam's dead, get over it, basically

988
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 1: of like I spent a while morning Sam, but Graham

989
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 1: said I had to move on. I was like, is

990
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 1: that really what you say to your best friend after

991
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 1: they were murdered by the same person you were almost

992
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 1: murdered by Graham. I'm just remembering what after she thinks

993
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 1: she killed Graham and um Ali walks in on her

994
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 1: in the shower and like really weird, and then she

995
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: stares at her bloody clothes. She blames it on her.

996
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 1: It's like, oh yeah, She's like, do you want tea?

997
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 1: Even then she's like we're trying your scamping. Yeah, you're

998
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 1: camping because you can help that. I was like, that

999
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: was a sink full of blood and she was so

1000
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 1: much blood, Like it always happens when I'm where you're

1001
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 1: not supposed to in your period. It always you just

1002
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 1: ring it out into your sink into like clogs. Like

1003
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: what the funk was that she clotted their bathroom? Sink

1004
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 1: it was crazy. No, I can totally relate, and I'm

1005
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 1: a very nice person, so I like, really get it. Oh,

1006
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 1: I thought you were saying I'm very heavy. Every time

1007
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: I think o J was innocent, she bled to death

1008
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 1: that she just got a really bad period. I just

1009
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 1: started watching. I just started watching the people versus o

1010
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 1: Jam really enjoying it. Oh, it's good. You gotta watch

1011
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 1: the ESPN documentary. I'm going to watch that as well.

1012
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 1: I've seen it twice. Nice, I'm gonna watch it again.

1013
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 1: So yeah, I guess it boils down to, Uh, this

1014
00:58:56,480 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 1: one relationship between these two characters is so complex and interesting,

1015
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 1: Like we got this nice lady who just wants to

1016
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 1: be nice and accommodating. We've got this uh woman with

1017
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 1: the personality disorder that also makes her homicidal. Uh what

1018
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 1: put them together? And why do you like advertisement for

1019
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: mental health care? Yeah? True, her parents do care what

1020
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: happens to her, trying to help herntal neglect thing. Even

1021
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 1: the weirdo her checks the cash checks, that horny cash.

1022
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 1: Her boss is like, your dad's calling here. He says,

1023
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 1: he's gonna come on down the New York City. If

1024
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 1: you don't get together and she's like, I've gotta go.

1025
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 1: She's like, you're an actress, right, and you're yeah, I

1026
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 1: like it. I love it. It looks good. I did like,

1027
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 1: maybe I'm gonna go blonde. She's like, oh my god.

1028
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 1: Then she comes, Oh my god, coming coming on the clock.

1029
00:59:56,080 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 1: Very cool. Uh. But then the I I also just like,

1030
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 1: on a very basic level, like the fact that even

1031
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 1: though we don't necessarily know what Ali's job is, she

1032
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 1: is both clearly very good at her job, owns her

1033
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 1: own business, and as a nice person. Where I feel

1034
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 1: like that is not where most movies go. If someone

1035
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 1: if a woman's getting her job, she's usually not nice.

1036
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 1: All seeing the Devil Wears product two weeks notice, et cetera. Uh, Yeah,

1037
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 1: that was an interesting portrayal. I liked they made a

1038
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 1: lot of choices that I really was on board with

1039
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 1: and that I really liked this movie. Yeah, everyone watch it,

1040
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 1: Slee female ever start referencing it, so I'm not alone? Yeah,

1041
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 1: because I can't. I wonder what the percentages of people

1042
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 1: said something along the lines of like, she's single white

1043
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 1: female in you. I don't know what I would think

1044
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 1: if you said that to me. I would just be like, Wow,

1045
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 1: this guy hates single white female. She's women move out.

1046
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 1: Uh do you have a lot of friends who found

1047
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 1: horrible situations like that that you're having to drop in it? Constantly,

1048
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,919
Speaker 1: drop the reference all the time. Yeah, I've definitely been

1049
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 1: in Sam's position many a time. You can't stop banging

1050
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 1: your ex wife. She's got her hooks on me. Keep going,

1051
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 1: I keep going to her place to tell her I'm

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01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 1: with somebody new. And how he talks that off though,

1053
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 1: he's like she was sad. Yeah, she was droning like

1054
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 1: it's like, Sam, you rascal. I don't like that. What

1055
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 1: I do like is that oftentimes a woman who is

1056
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 1: like the other party of a cheating situation is the

1057
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 1: one who's like targeted to be like, you're the villain,

1058
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 1: you home record, you awful person. But she's never seen

1059
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 1: on screen. We don't even mention her again. We hear her, really,

1060
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 1: we hear she is stand there. But I like that

1061
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 1: all of Alley's anger is targeted towards Sam until it's immediately,

1062
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 1: not until it's not. She's like, wait, he sent me

1063
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 1: a letter, He showed up unannounced, fucking making out and

1064
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 1: like about to fuck Meanwhile, Hetty's watching in the window

1065
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 1: and the old lady sponsor. I forgot to feel old

1066
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 1: lady from like, who's been an old lady in a

1067
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 1: hundred movies? She started acting, you know, she was in

1068
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 1: four hundred movies from ages like sixties seven to seventy two.

1069
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 1: She's God, I can't wait to go on r IMDb

1070
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 1: because I'm sure it's all like old neighbor, old lady librarian.

1071
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 1: Where was Hetty's We saw Hetty at work once, didn't we?

1072
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 1: She works at a bookstore? She does. Okay, well, I

1073
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 1: feel stigmatized. What do you mean, as a psychopath who's

1074
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:59,959
Speaker 1: worked at a bookstore, I feel stamentized. Yeah, I reckon.

1075
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 1: If you haven't seen this movie, you probably haven't also

1076
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 1: listened to this episode of the podcast because we spoiled

1077
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 1: the entire thing. Yeah, you should listened to this. Yeah

1078
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 1: if you, oh man, you made a huge mistake. Um.

1079
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 1: I do like at the end of the movie that

1080
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:14,919
Speaker 1: they insinuate if you don't forgive the person that wronged you,

1081
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 1: you will become them. That is kind of really a

1082
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 1: weird lesson for you know what. I kind of want

1083
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 1: to see Ali as a crazy person. Was there a sequel.

1084
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 1: Let's see, there was a sequel that came out like

1085
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 1: ten years ago that was like a directive video. Yeah.

1086
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 1: The last thing I want to say is that we

1087
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:36,919
Speaker 1: do see like there's a short beat where Graham kind

1088
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 1: of saves Ali. Whenever, why couldn't he have saved Ali

1089
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:45,439
Speaker 1: instead of the rapist? Well he does, but if he'd

1090
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 1: woken up like ten minutes earlier, that whole weird situation

1091
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 1: would have been avoided. They had to draw out the

1092
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 1: ten draw the tension, and it led to the big

1093
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 1: like trailer moment that I remember of him ripping the

1094
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 1: tape off her face and she and it's a close

1095
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 1: up of Bridget Fond and she says, look out, she's crazy. Yeah. Wait,

1096
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 1: So whenever ned Ryerson goes to confront her, he never

1097
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 1: gets into the apartment, right, like the neighbor or the

1098
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 1: landlord or something shoos them away or does he you know,

1099
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 1: because she has she's that's actually another finds her. She

1100
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 1: goes to the basement to get Alie's bags, and she

1101
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 1: crawls into it to see if she can fit a

1102
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 1: body in there. And then and then so she then

1103
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 1: she brings the bag back up and and Mitch, of

1104
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 1: course notices that it has Ali's name on it, and

1105
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:36,920
Speaker 1: so he barges his way in and locks. But I

1106
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 1: also can't imagine speaking that way to a stranger, like

1107
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 1: you do know her? I don't know. But then he

1108
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 1: goes in and just like a series of big reactions

1109
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 1: from Mitch Meyerson saying like you know, he's like, you

1110
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 1: do know her? And he pushes in and he goes

1111
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 1: what the fuck and then he straddles the woman he

1112
01:04:57,040 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 1: almost raped not three days ago. Yeah, that would have

1113
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 1: been really fucked up if he was like, now I

1114
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 1: got you kind of finish what I started. I'm a

1115
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 1: fucking pervert. I like, man, I wasn't too upset when

1116
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 1: he got whacked. Yeah, and I don't think. I don't

1117
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 1: think you're supposed to be whacked as in like mobster

1118
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 1: style killed, or like whacked over the head. I forget

1119
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 1: what happens. I didn't get to this. He was whacked

1120
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 1: over the head, right, he was whacked. Yeah, I feel

1121
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 1: like it's a pretty vague way that he dies. Okay,

1122
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:28,479
Speaker 1: steampunk check. This is the first movie we've ever talked

1123
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 1: about that I does not have. I was wondering if

1124
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 1: you would be able to stephorn steampunk in here. No

1125
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 1: steampunk culture in this movie, which is probably like it movie.

1126
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 1: That's why I like it. And also I think this

1127
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 1: movie predates steampunk culture. That is true. I was in

1128
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 1: San Francisco again this week and I saw the steampunk

1129
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 1: guy again on the accordion pants guy. The accordion pants guy.

1130
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 1: There's a guy in San Francisco who I was so mad.

1131
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 1: I went to the same I remembered cross streets and like,

1132
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 1: let me go back and see if he's still there,

1133
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:06,280
Speaker 1: and fucking of course it's a Monday, he's still there.

1134
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 1: Grow up. I know. I'm like having a very hard

1135
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 1: time arriving at a point, but I swear I did

1136
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 1: have one that I like that she ends up ultimately

1137
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 1: saving herself. Like there's that brief moment where like Graham

1138
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 1: kind of steps in, but then I feel like he

1139
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 1: he gets hit or something, and that's again. So then

1140
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 1: Hetty takes her to the basement and then they have

1141
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 1: that fight down there. So I like that, like she

1142
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be saved by a man, she saves herself.

1143
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 1: I like that she throws a rat on Hetty, yeah,

1144
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 1: because I was like, no, she's gonna squeal at the

1145
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 1: rat and then she's gonna be caught. But she has

1146
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 1: the fourth side to be like, let me throw the

1147
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 1: rat on my enemy. Yes, she does wind up being

1148
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 1: unbelievably strong, Like, she does some pretty acrobatic stuff over.

1149
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 1: That's pretty amazing. That's pretty great. She's a software developer

1150
01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 1: for the fashion industry. Of course she's strong. She can

1151
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 1: do anything. They set up that screw driver for a while,

1152
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 1: they did one of those. Yeah, yeah, anyone else have

1153
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 1: any final thoughts about I liked this movie so much.

1154
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 1: Thanks for introducing it to us. Yeah, my pleasure. I'm

1155
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:12,840
Speaker 1: glad you guys enjoyed it. Thanks for having me on

1156
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 1: talking about perhap. I know the final thing we need

1157
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 1: to talk about is whether or not the movie passes

1158
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 1: the Bechdel test. Does it does? Yeah? And almost every scene.

1159
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 1: Good job movie. Um, a lot of the ones we've

1160
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 1: talked about don't even try, don't time for nipples. Yeah.

1161
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 1: We rate the movie on a scale of zero to

1162
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 1: five nipples based on its portrayal of about like women,

1163
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:43,439
Speaker 1: So we ran on nipple scale. I like the odd

1164
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 1: number of nipples. Yeah, that's how a human number body works. Well, okay,

1165
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:52,720
Speaker 1: five sets of nipples. Nipples total five nipples five We've

1166
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:57,919
Speaker 1: ought one, two, three, four, five? Okay okay, yeah, we're

1167
01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 1: just not always all right unless some of us are.

1168
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 1: What are the types of animals that like their penis

1169
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 1: will like withdraw into their body like whales? It's like

1170
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:14,320
Speaker 1: that for something that's also human. Sometimes women's nipples just

1171
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 1: shrink into the body. Yeah, I aspire to have no

1172
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 1: nipples one day. It's another one of my bucket list things.

1173
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 1: And go flip a table. What was the other thing?

1174
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 1: If you just gotta go sucking nipples right hand, it's

1175
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:32,559
Speaker 1: really a mind over matter kind of thing. I'm gonna

1176
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:40,200
Speaker 1: think my nipples away. To pop your nipples out. God,

1177
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:42,680
Speaker 1: I miss them. Just hold your breath and let them.

1178
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 1: I'm going to write a self help book called Think

1179
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:52,879
Speaker 1: your Nipples Away. Please do. I'll buy it, thank you. Okay, Okay,

1180
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:55,639
Speaker 1: you go first. Since in rating it, I would give

1181
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 1: this movie because it has such an interesting representation of

1182
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:01,600
Speaker 1: like the relation chips and a lot of trips that

1183
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 1: we see, especially if this genre are subverted and things

1184
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 1: like that. I would give this movie like a four.

1185
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 1: Four nipples. Yeahs, I have to describe the nipples all right,

1186
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:26,720
Speaker 1: half fast fun. I'm excited to describe my nipples. Okay,

1187
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 1: the two of them belong to Ali empowered, empowered nipples.

1188
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 1: They're very nice, just beautiful New York and cool New

1189
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:41,839
Speaker 1: York and cool um. And then the other two belong

1190
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:47,599
Speaker 1: uh god, I don't they're just they're four nice nipples.

1191
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 1: You don't want to you don't want to talk about

1192
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 1: Hettie's nipples? Is that where this is going? You're kind

1193
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 1: of bp D nips. They're not as nice as Allie's.

1194
01:09:57,280 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 1: I mean that's part of the story, right, Well, but

1195
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 1: like a are they Well we see both of them,

1196
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:05,639
Speaker 1: but I think we see Hettie's nipples more. Yeah. Yeah,

1197
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 1: he's naked a lot in this movie. She's naked a lot,

1198
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:12,680
Speaker 1: and she's hot. She's a hot babe. I'm giving it

1199
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 1: four nipples. You're gonna give her two nipples for nipples.

1200
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 1: I'm giving her two nipples for nipples. I'm going to

1201
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 1: give four nipples as well. Two of them belong to

1202
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 1: Hetty's dead twin. Two of them belong to Ali's computer program.

1203
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:35,840
Speaker 1: Nipple ladies. That's great, Okay, I'm giving two to the

1204
01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:44,640
Speaker 1: old neighbor. Yeah you know what, Yeah, let's give him

1205
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:47,360
Speaker 1: to both women over. I don't know if um Mitch's

1206
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:51,000
Speaker 1: secretary was, but she's definitely, you know, one of the

1207
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 1: older characters in the movie. It's true. I'm giving her

1208
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:56,479
Speaker 1: my other two nipples. Are there any people of color

1209
01:10:56,520 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 1: in this movie? No, that it's very why it is.

1210
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:05,480
Speaker 1: But and this is not to defend a lack of representation,

1211
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:08,719
Speaker 1: but there we really only know five or six characters

1212
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 1: in this entire movie. The cast is very small. You

1213
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 1: can you usually make Graham a person of color, It's true.

1214
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 1: And then and then if he lives, that would be

1215
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 1: a double victory. Yeah, we did it. We did it.

1216
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 1: This was a fun one. This was fun. Yeah, we

1217
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 1: are now can no and tie you well, let's save

1218
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:34,800
Speaker 1: the noises. Yeah, thanks again for being here. Thanks. Do

1219
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:40,639
Speaker 1: you do you have anything you'd like to plug? Yeah,

1220
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:44,000
Speaker 1: I mean the first part of your question. No, I

1221
01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:46,559
Speaker 1: don't really, I don't really have anything to plug. You

1222
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:51,719
Speaker 1: can go to my mostly unused social media I'm Ben

1223
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 1: Underscore Rogers on Twitter. Follow me, I tweet like I

1224
01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:59,800
Speaker 1: don't know, and once a month, I'm getting off the

1225
01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:03,000
Speaker 1: end Internet. I'm done. You're wow, We're about with the

1226
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 1: internet pushed ben off into the sea on an iceberg.

1227
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:10,640
Speaker 1: This was his last stand. Yeah, this is it for me,

1228
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:14,640
Speaker 1: this send off you went out. Yeah, I want my

1229
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 1: last words to be about single wife female. I tweet

1230
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:21,760
Speaker 1: too much. I tweeted too much about my hamster on

1231
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day. It got pointed out to me. It's okay,

1232
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:28,000
Speaker 1: we had a fun night. It got pointed out to

1233
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:32,719
Speaker 1: you some of we gotta talk your hamster. Hey, we're worried.

1234
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 1: Did you spend all night with your hamster on Valentine's Day? Uh? No,

1235
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:41,719
Speaker 1: I also watched the Jinks at my gay best friend's house,

1236
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:45,719
Speaker 1: sot it down on the hamster ship. So I would

1237
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 1: never show my hamster the jinks. She's too young. You

1238
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 1: can follow me on Twitter at Hamburger Phone. Yeah. You

1239
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 1: can follow me at Caitlin Dronte. You can also follow

1240
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 1: the podcast at Delectel Calf. We use it. We're not

1241
01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 1: like the other shows that are like follow us on

1242
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 1: Twitter and then we don't tweet. Yeah we tweets. Yeah,

1243
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 1: not like me, not something schmuck like me. Don't follow

1244
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 1: well us Yeah, yeah, hamsters and content entertain you me.

1245
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 1: I just want to I'm like, try not to write

1246
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 1: about things I'm angry about. I try not to be

1247
01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:24,320
Speaker 1: a sixty five year old angry grandfather. Speaking of angry

1248
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:27,640
Speaker 1: grandfathers on Twitter, my dad has more Twitter followers than me.

1249
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:31,719
Speaker 1: Yet again, what I had him beat for a solid

1250
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:35,560
Speaker 1: six months and then he had some sort of surge

1251
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:39,559
Speaker 1: and now he has sixty d followers on Twitter. It's

1252
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:45,840
Speaker 1: fucking wild. No he I wish, I wish I could

1253
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:50,240
Speaker 1: give him that he broke some news about the Boston

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Speaker 1: Bruins and then suddenly he's got like four hundred more followers.

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Speaker 1: He journalist. How does he have so many followers? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's he's a hockey reporter. So whenever something hot he happens,

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Speaker 1: he gets a surge. It's not hard, it's not fair

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Speaker 1: by by some followers. I'm gonna buy followers and be like,

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Speaker 1: funk you dad. All right, well, I think this is

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Speaker 1: a great note to end the podcast. Done. Don't followed

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Speaker 1: by everybody. Loft Is at Ledger unfollowing block. Cook you dad,

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Speaker 1: here's my podcast about women. Un following block. Mike Loftus Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: thanks you and everyone, thanks for listening. See you later.

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