Speaker 1: I remember one of the cool moments. These two girls
Speaker 1: gave me a bracelet last year on one of the
Speaker 1: Part five's and I put it on and I ended
Speaker 1: up chipping in on the next one and turning around
Speaker 1: to them and seeing how happy they were. I still
Speaker 1: have the bracelets.
Speaker 2: In my back.
Speaker 1: You know, I'll probably, you know, I'll probably they're going
Speaker 1: to be out there, I assume, so I'll throw it
Speaker 1: on for the event tomorrow. So it's just small, small
Speaker 1: things like that, and it does it does make you
Speaker 1: feel really small, i'd say, in the whole scheme of things,
Speaker 1: and just to be able to make a few extra
Speaker 1: kids smile along the ways is really meaningful to me.
Speaker 3: Put another log on the fire Nobody here is get
Speaker 3: the time.
Speaker 4: Welcome to the fire Pit with Matt Chanella as goad
Speaker 4: Hill Park lights the kindling and their new fire pit
Speaker 4: to the left of the first we're sharing part two
Speaker 4: of our Wishbone bral preview featuring Xander Schoffley, currently number
Speaker 4: six in the world, winner of seven PGA Tour events,
Speaker 4: one Olympic gold medal and three Wishbone brawls. But before
Speaker 4: we get to our conversation on the magic of Goathill Park,
Speaker 4: this year's brawl field, the lay of out Twins, and
Speaker 4: why this community an event means so much to him.
Speaker 4: I want to do two things. First, some specifics. The
Speaker 4: sixth annual Wishbone Bral is at Goathill Park in Oceanside, California, Saturday,
Speaker 4: November eleventh. Gates open at nine point thirty, range, clinic
Speaker 4: kicks at eleven am, and the tournament tips at noon.
Speaker 4: Tickets are still available, Parking is limited, kids are free,
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Speaker 5: Six s Andrews Shaffley. Yo, what's up, buddy?
Speaker 1: What's going on?
Speaker 5: Just another bra We're on the eve of the braw.
Speaker 1: How you feeling?
Speaker 4: I feel great because I don't have to hit any shots,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? If I hear you, I'm
Speaker 4: headed up there this morning. I'm bringing my little guy
Speaker 4: and we're gonna we're gonna play with Colin and Ogilvy's
Speaker 4: running a little late. He's flying in from Melbourne today.
Speaker 4: He's flight is delayed, so he's he's gonna come come
Speaker 4: in hot to try to make a twelve to ten time.
Speaker 1: He's incredible, doesn't he go back after the you meant too?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I think he's literally coming for like two days from
Speaker 4: Australia to play the wishbumb Brell.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I know they have. He has all of
Speaker 1: his like National opens right like shortly after, I think.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then and then his Sandbelt Invitational in like
Speaker 4: three weeks, and you know, so he's got a lot
Speaker 4: going on. I mean, but I I you know, if
Speaker 4: you talk to him, he's like, I would never miss this,
Speaker 4: Like I think he's and I think Fred is bump.
Speaker 4: Fred tried to move things around because he hated the
Speaker 4: idea that he was going to miss it.
Speaker 5: I think it's it's just something.
Speaker 4: That you know, as we've discussed before.
Speaker 5: I just think it's one of the.
Speaker 4: You know as you know full well, all that's happening
Speaker 4: at the top level of professional golf can be just
Speaker 4: so overwhelming and just uh, you know, hard to navigate
Speaker 4: as probably a player, but also as a consumer, as
Speaker 4: a as a viewer, you know, just sort of watching
Speaker 4: all of this unfold and hopefully it comes to some
Speaker 4: sort of resolution. But in the meantime, it's thing like
Speaker 4: this that I just find to be just so clean
Speaker 4: and simple and special and an impactful you know what
Speaker 4: I mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, for sure, that's Yeah. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff and a lot of noise that seems to be
Speaker 1: going on during whether it's our Ryder Cups or like
Speaker 1: normal events, and this is a yeah, I mean for me,
Speaker 1: this is kind of where where it all started, so
Speaker 1: or at least it makes me feel like it connects
Speaker 1: me back to where it all started, which is what
Speaker 1: I love about it. So it's kind of a breath
Speaker 1: of fresh air and a nice origin for the roots.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would imagine, And again it does that for me. Obviously,
Speaker 4: Goat Hill Park has done that for John right, this
Speaker 4: was a place that he grew up playing and that's
Speaker 4: why he decided to fight so hard to save it.
Speaker 4: You know I remember ten eleven years ago.
Speaker 5: He's like, I grew up.
Speaker 4: We can't let this die, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: we can't let this die. And wait, I don't know
Speaker 4: you were there last night.
Speaker 5: I saw you.
Speaker 4: I didn't say hi because you had already started your
Speaker 4: thing on the range and I was just coming out
Speaker 4: off course. But I, uh, but like, did you get
Speaker 4: a look around as to what's going on there in terms.
Speaker 1: Of yeah, look, I mean it is. I mean you
Speaker 1: can't even really call it's nice. They have those those
Speaker 1: uh those pop bunkers on each I got a little glimpse.
Speaker 1: I wanted to really walk over, but I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, I'll save I'll save my excitement for for
Speaker 1: next Saturday because I wasn't really golfing. So but they're
Speaker 1: telling me to look around and tell me all the
Speaker 1: adjustments or upgrades I should say to the property. But yeah,
Speaker 1: the places, I mean forts tight Range. I mean, the
Speaker 1: place is legit. You know, it's not like it's it's
Speaker 1: far far beyond you know what it was and what
Speaker 1: it was going to be. So I mean, yeah, John's
Speaker 1: dide an incredible job. And the places, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I was looking around like these kids are lucky, you know,
Speaker 1: they really are lucky. Like they have this amazing facility
Speaker 1: and such a cool play around there, and it's awesome.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, and I think I say this all
Speaker 4: the time. Now we're doing this Wednesday sunrise like dawn patrol,
Speaker 4: like underground, Like if people show up at six.
Speaker 5: Am, they just show up and we're going to we're off, right.
Speaker 4: So I've always loved sunsets of Goat but now sun rises,
Speaker 4: it just puts in a whole different, whole different light.
Speaker 4: And I just think to myself and I'm raising my
Speaker 4: son there, you know, we you know, we have family
Speaker 4: time there. My little guy is now six, but like
Speaker 4: he's like the little mayor of the place, right, I
Speaker 4: can let him go and everybody's looking out for him,
Speaker 4: and he knows everybody. And I think to myself, like,
Speaker 4: what would we do without Goat Hill Park?
Speaker 5: What would we do without.
Speaker 4: This sort of the glue to the community that John has.
Speaker 4: You know, he's resuscidate. It's like finding a it's like
Speaker 4: finding a puppy on the side of the road or something.
Speaker 4: You know, and then you know, you see all these
Speaker 4: stories and you think to yourself, like this has happened
Speaker 4: one little piece at a time. And then you know,
Speaker 4: obviously the Wishbone Brawl, Well your involvement, people like Dean
Speaker 4: and and people like Jeff making the effort, and and
Speaker 4: you know you got Freddy and and you know Mike
Speaker 4: Weir has come in, Charlie Hoffman and now Chris Riley,
Speaker 4: who's who's a local. I just find this to be
Speaker 4: it's just all that you know, the game has and
Speaker 4: give so much, and the potential of the game. You know,
Speaker 4: we we all have felt it in many different ways,
Speaker 4: but here it is like just simplified and brought down
Speaker 4: to the very essence of community, you know, connective tissue,
Speaker 4: a place to call home and to feel safe and
Speaker 4: welcome and warm without having to pay one hundred thousand
Speaker 4: dollars membership, you know what I mean, Like it just
Speaker 4: comes down to that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you know, this is our sixth fifth, sixth event,
Speaker 1: I think, right, And you guys, you've always m seed
Speaker 1: and you've always talked to me. And it's kind of
Speaker 1: funny when I look, when I reflect, at least it's
Speaker 1: you don't really like it was hard for me to
Speaker 1: put a finger on what was so like I knew
Speaker 1: it was really special. I knew it was really cool,
Speaker 1: and I knew it felt different when I was on
Speaker 1: property there. But the more you do it, the more
Speaker 1: you kind of see the outcome and how the kids
Speaker 1: are on property and how the parents are and like
Speaker 1: you said, how the family show families show up and
Speaker 1: how community shows up, and you do get that big
Speaker 1: presence of the community. And you know, the longer you
Speaker 1: kind of do this, you do you summed it up
Speaker 1: very nicely, like I wouldn't have been able to sort
Speaker 1: of after two or three years at at Goat Hill,
Speaker 1: I had that feeling, but it was hard for me
Speaker 1: to describe and pinpoint what made me feel so like
Speaker 1: warm on property and then everything you just said that
Speaker 1: that really hits home, you know, even when I'm doing
Speaker 1: I did the Colony boxt week and it was it
Speaker 1: was it was awesome and it's I was telling I
Speaker 1: was telling my wife, I was like, what a what
Speaker 1: a cool place to sort of start because the people there,
Speaker 1: and you know, the people showing up and the way
Speaker 1: the kids are and the way the kids were, you know,
Speaker 1: during that clinic, I was sort of nervous. I've never
Speaker 1: really done anything like that. Where I had nothing to
Speaker 1: really go off of. I was kind of just winging
Speaker 1: it almost, and I was worried these kids weren't really
Speaker 1: gonna ask any questions. And man, these kids were just
Speaker 1: firing questions like they were going, they were teeing off.
Speaker 1: Like the adults were quiet, you know, because they already
Speaker 1: kind of listened to my spiel, and the kids were going,
Speaker 1: they're coming after me. So it was, it was, it
Speaker 1: was really cool. And then I heard, you know, a
Speaker 1: couple of people traveled from from different parts just to
Speaker 1: kind of because they've heard about the Goat and they've
Speaker 1: heard about sort of that area and what that what
Speaker 1: the Goat Hill brings to the community. So it really
Speaker 1: is you summed it up really well. And the more I,
Speaker 1: you know, the more time I spent on property, and
Speaker 1: the more brawls we do, it really it kind of
Speaker 1: cements that sort of feeling, and it does feel like
Speaker 1: it's sort of, i don't know, like that old school
Speaker 1: sort of cool to sac neighborhood vibe where everyone's house
Speaker 1: is you know, everyone's front door is opened and you
Speaker 1: can just walk in their house and grab anything out
Speaker 1: of the fridge and kind of go back out and
Speaker 1: play and then you know, even go take a shower
Speaker 1: at a different person's house because it doesn't really matter,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And you know, you know, I know you're close with
Speaker 4: the emerics, and and I say that. I said to Dave,
Speaker 4: we just dropped the podcast yesterday on this, and I said, Dave,
Speaker 4: this is literally your front point. I mean, you know,
Speaker 4: if this golf course gets churned up, or if it
Speaker 4: goes away, or if it stays sort of like you know,
Speaker 4: underappreciated or poorly funded, what's the difference between your you know,
Speaker 4: your you know, property value, just just baseline, the property
Speaker 4: value of what you're looking out in your front yard.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: Now he drives his cart into and he goes, he goes.
Speaker 4: It's like I opened the gates of Heaven. Every day
Speaker 4: like this is you know, I mean, you know, and
Speaker 4: so the emerics and the locals. I know, some people
Speaker 4: probably don't feel the same because their house might get
Speaker 4: hit occasionally with golf balls. But John's tending to that,
Speaker 4: and that's part of the reason why the eighteen. But
Speaker 4: you know, this is it's it's it's so much deeper
Speaker 4: and that park mentality, I think John says it all
Speaker 4: the time. I look at this as a part where
Speaker 4: you happen to play golf and if you if you
Speaker 4: take that mentality and perspective and vision, because then it
Speaker 4: becomes a place where you can go and hang and
Speaker 4: not have to feel intimidated by the game or by
Speaker 4: certain sort of expectations of what you need to do
Speaker 4: as a golfer. You're just there as a local. That
Speaker 4: is the that that is why I think the clientele
Speaker 4: is so diverse and why you have men, women, boys, girls, young, old,
Speaker 4: all different shape sizes, colors and skill levels like that.
Speaker 5: And you got.
Speaker 4: Affordability, right, thirty dollars and thirty five dollars green fee.
Speaker 4: That is just the sum total of what John and
Speaker 4: Dave and you know, the whole team as has cultivated here.
Speaker 4: And you know, yeah, the last ten years gone from
Speaker 4: zero to sixty, slow lane to fast lane. You cannot
Speaker 4: get a tea time today's Andy. You will not be
Speaker 4: able to rock up and just like get a tea
Speaker 4: time a goat Hill Park.
Speaker 1: There. I mean, there's just there's nowhere else like it.
Speaker 1: And like you said, there's nowhere else that is where
Speaker 1: you can kind of show up and you know, with's
Speaker 1: the shirt off if you wanted you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Because you are in a park. Anyone can show up
Speaker 1: to a park. You can have a picnic in the park,
Speaker 1: you can play off in the park. You can throw
Speaker 1: a football, you can throw a frisbee, you can bring
Speaker 1: your dogs, you can bring a stroller. It doesn't really matter.
Speaker 1: So I get it. I'm not surprised it's completely booked out.
Speaker 4: All right, So wishbone brawl. You and Chris Riley, let's
Speaker 4: start there. What do you have a history with Chris
Speaker 4: or what's your what's your relationship? How are you feeling
Speaker 4: about this part? You know, I don't think we've ever
Speaker 4: had the same field in all six bro there's never
Speaker 4: been a repeat, you know, competition, there's been you know,
Speaker 4: you and Dean have won a couple and Dean, I
Speaker 4: think one with Mike.
Speaker 5: We're one year and you're like, that's it. I'm going
Speaker 5: back to Dean.
Speaker 4: But here you got you got Chris Riley this year.
Speaker 5: How you feeling.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was yeah, Fred super bummed. Obviously Fred couldn't
Speaker 1: make it. And then Dean's got a family matter. And
Speaker 1: then I think Ash saw Riley at the grocery store.
Speaker 1: I saw him.
Speaker 5: I saw him at the DMV.
Speaker 1: This is you saw him at the DNV, that's right,
Speaker 1: and you kind of like mentioned it to him. I'm like,
Speaker 1: you don't want to talk about community here. So I
Speaker 1: showt him a text. I think ashe told me that
Speaker 1: you saw him at the DMV, and he texted me,
Speaker 1: He's like, you need a partner, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I was like, Chuck is in Bermuda. I was like,
Speaker 1: I'll just text Ryles and I because Riles is always like, dude,
Speaker 1: invite me to play. So I hit him up and
Speaker 1: I mean he literally gave me a thumbs up. Didn't
Speaker 1: even ask about when or you know, the time or anything.
Speaker 1: He just was like, I'm in. And I was like, perfect,
Speaker 1: We're partners. So he's he's awesome. He's really good with kids.
Speaker 1: He is, you know, a steaky legend here in San Diego.
Speaker 1: He's currently coaching at a USD, doing a great job,
Speaker 1: and he still plays. I think he plays quite a
Speaker 1: bit with his kids. So he's he's going to be
Speaker 1: an awesome partner.
Speaker 4: His daughter's legit, and he's he's going to make a run.
Speaker 4: He's going to turn fifty next year and he's going
Speaker 4: to make a run on the Champions Tour. I think
Speaker 4: he's going to leave USD. And so, yeah, the the
Speaker 4: idea there was talk about.
Speaker 5: Like oh, is Dean gonna be able to make it?
Speaker 4: And what's going to happen and who's the four that
Speaker 4: at that time it was still four And I'm texting
Speaker 4: with John that morning and I'm trying to get a
Speaker 4: new driver's license. I'm going through the whole dmb L,
Speaker 4: like you know, the whole dmb thing that God forbid.
Speaker 4: And I'm in the middle of somewhere San Diego.
Speaker 5: I don't even know.
Speaker 4: I could not tell you where I was to this day.
Speaker 4: And I'm going through and I'm doing the lines and
Speaker 4: I'm hitting all my marks, and I get called to
Speaker 4: my window of like a twenty eight right, and I'm
Speaker 4: up at a twenty eight and someone goes Janella, and
Speaker 4: I was like, who could I possibly.
Speaker 5: Know in this?
Speaker 4: And I look to my left and it's Chris Riley
Speaker 4: at a twenty seventh, I mean, and I was like, Ryles,
Speaker 4: And it's so crazy because we're talking about the Wishbone
Speaker 4: braw and I don't know how this is going to
Speaker 4: shake out, But like they're looking, you know, they might
Speaker 4: be looking for a guy who goes, well, I'm always
Speaker 4: in I might go just to watch even if I
Speaker 4: don't play, which he's done in the past, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. And that's how serendipitous that whole situation was.
Speaker 5: I mean, I can't make it, make it up.
Speaker 1: You can't make it up.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: And then now we've got Colin Featherstone, San Diego State
Speaker 4: grad by the way, twenty twelve, who you know, had
Speaker 4: a really solid year on the corn Ferry Tour last year,
Speaker 4: pairing up with you know, the legend himself and Jeff
Speaker 4: Ogilvie and link soldier and goat lover and proponent of
Speaker 4: an event like Wishbone Brawl to the point where he
Speaker 4: started the sand Belt Invitational, where men and women compete
Speaker 4: on you know, elite venues in the same kind of format.
Speaker 5: So got to be a little concerned about that squad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, Uh yeah, they're they're both staples. Featherstone probably,
Speaker 1: I mean, actually know for a fact out of anyone
Speaker 1: the twins may have logged more round growing up, but
Speaker 1: as I'd say, now that they're in college, they're out
Speaker 1: of town. Feather Featherstone for sure has log the most
Speaker 1: reps and rounds at goats, so it's gonna yeah, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be. I mean, we get for Simon Woods, you
Speaker 1: know as always, so that'll that'll hopefully level the playing
Speaker 1: ground a little bit and make it a little bit
Speaker 1: weirder for them in terms of like what yardes they have.
Speaker 1: But yeah, we're i'd say we we might be slight
Speaker 1: dogs here.
Speaker 4: I mean, father is going to be a handful, I
Speaker 4: can promise you. I played with them last Saturday and
Speaker 4: it was like this. The the amount of yards he
Speaker 4: hit away from the hole, you know, like in a
Speaker 4: combined was not much. It was not a big number,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, just kept going very close
Speaker 4: to the hole. I was like, he's this feather. This
Speaker 4: is not He's not He's not messing around. I think
Speaker 4: he's been. He's been itching to try to be a
Speaker 4: part of this event for a while now.
Speaker 5: And I think he has three nine.
Speaker 4: Unders at goad Hill Park with Persimmon woods, and will
Speaker 4: will Crop has break. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean I saw I saw feather out at the
Speaker 1: at the goat when I did that event. He shot
Speaker 1: there's like a club championship or something you shot, like
Speaker 1: a scramble. He sat like fifteen hundred with his partner.
Speaker 4: Like you know, I was with him that day. It
Speaker 4: was was a two man scramble they had, you know,
Speaker 4: it was a he was feather in it and and
Speaker 4: he's the guy. His partner was a two handicap. We
Speaker 4: played with him, we were six hunder, felt like we
Speaker 4: played good and we lost to him by six. I
Speaker 4: mean they were like Road to Tilly, Road to tild Us.
Speaker 4: So I was like, oh shit, and now yeah you
Speaker 4: got Jasmine and jay Lee, Jasmine and Jane Laval who
Speaker 4: the beautiful you know part of this going back to
Speaker 4: Goahill Park and this this, this beautiful story that's developing
Speaker 4: as this as this hub of community they are that
Speaker 4: they're like the poster childs of this this, this, this, this,
Speaker 4: you know, this story that John has has cultivated because
Speaker 4: they go from North County Junior golf with Dave, they
Speaker 4: go to scoring and standard bearing and caddying at the
Speaker 4: Wishbone Brawl. Last year's ender, they couldn't watch because they're
Speaker 4: helping their brother at the hot dog stand. And this year,
Speaker 4: after coming off, they just won back to back tournaments
Speaker 4: at Long Beach State. One of them is the Big
Speaker 4: West Player of the Year of the month because she
Speaker 4: has a scoring average below seventy. And they are like
Speaker 4: at home at Goat Hill Park, and they're going to
Speaker 4: have like a ton of home energy. Plus they get
Speaker 4: Ada and Annabelle Lee, who are currently in the Junior
Speaker 4: Caddy and Leadership Academy. And Fred said, the two best
Speaker 4: caddies in San Diego. So you're going to have to compete,
Speaker 4: not with just those two, you got to compete with
Speaker 4: those four.
Speaker 1: And when I said I was we were slight dogs.
Speaker 1: I was talking to the field. Yes, oh wa Ash
Speaker 1: gave me, was giving me updates on on the twins.
Speaker 1: I saw, I have a hot dog. I saw. I
Speaker 1: don't know the brother's name, but I knew. I knew
Speaker 1: he was a brother. I saw him. I talked to
Speaker 1: him a little bit at the event. He was he
Speaker 1: was growing up some dogs and he was, we're talking
Speaker 1: about it. So yeah, I mean they are. They are
Speaker 1: the poster family for the event. To be completely honest,
Speaker 1: I mean I had I can't differentiate the twins always
Speaker 1: when I see them. Sometimes can but I can't remember
Speaker 1: which one caddide for me. But I've had I think
Speaker 1: both maybe have caddied for me in this event, and
Speaker 1: now they're shooting sixty fowards in college. So what are
Speaker 1: you gonna do? You know, I'm gonna have to go.
Speaker 1: I need to go to the range right now after
Speaker 1: we get off this phone Calle was about to happen.
Speaker 5: I'm telling you about this is gonna be.
Speaker 4: This is gonna be. And I think the idea of
Speaker 4: kind of going to three twosome's and and so essentially
Speaker 4: becomes a stroke play event as opposed to match play
Speaker 4: making sure it goes to eighteen, which is a nice.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's kind of always goes to eighteen anyway,
Speaker 4: and it's gone beyond in some cases. But I think
Speaker 4: this is a cool opportunity to make it almost like
Speaker 4: guaranteed it's coming to eighteen.
Speaker 5: Anything can happen at any point.
Speaker 4: I think is kind of a nice And the addition
Speaker 4: of going back to you know again Goadhill Park forty
Speaker 4: five hundred yards par sixty five, where we're at with
Speaker 4: the games and er in terms of the growth of
Speaker 4: women and you know, incorporating you know, there's all this
Speaker 4: murmur and it's going to be happening I know you're
Speaker 4: going to be a part of it. But men and
Speaker 4: women playing together in this case, Godhill Park is like
Speaker 4: the perfect venue in which they can play against each other,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean where you know, distance is
Speaker 4: always a factor, but it's mitigated by by you know,
Speaker 4: the way this golf course works in terms of elevation
Speaker 4: changes and working the ball right and left and having
Speaker 4: to hit your spots.
Speaker 5: Can't really overpower the goat.
Speaker 4: Don't you feel like this is like the perfect venue,
Speaker 4: the perfect event in which we can showcase how and
Speaker 4: why men and women can play the game against each other,
Speaker 4: same tease, same course, same time.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, the way the way you goat hills route, the
Speaker 1: routing of the property, and it's like it's a sneaky distance.
Speaker 1: It doesn't really feel that you are as you just
Speaker 1: spit out to me. It can kind of play a
Speaker 1: little longer just because the way some of the trees
Speaker 1: and the doglegs sit, you can't always, like you said,
Speaker 1: you can't really overpower it. And sometimes when you try
Speaker 1: and force it, you get goaded. And that's that's happened
Speaker 1: to me. That happened to me in my first ever brawl.
Speaker 1: So I was cruising down the property and try to
Speaker 1: force it and I know it hit some dirt mound
Speaker 1: just to the right of the par five and my
Speaker 1: ball was like in a canyon and all these kids
Speaker 1: are looking for my ball and end up making like
Speaker 1: an eight on a part five and I was, you know,
Speaker 1: sitting there looking my chops trying to make an eagle.
Speaker 1: So yeah, distance is not is not key. It's it's
Speaker 1: a much more precision and leaving yourself, you know, below
Speaker 1: the hole and scrambling. Short game is big out there.
Speaker 1: You know, you're not always gonna hit greens and you
Speaker 1: got you know, it's a no park, so you've got
Speaker 1: a bunch of different types of grass and it doesn't
Speaker 1: really give you know, any man or any woman a
Speaker 1: true edge maybe on two or three holes with the
Speaker 1: part fives, but that's you know, that's honestly it. And
Speaker 1: I think all the girls can reach at least two
Speaker 1: twins for sure, can reach the par fives and two
Speaker 1: no problems. So it's uh, well, you know, perfect setup,
Speaker 1: perfect venue, and yeah, I think going to stroke play
Speaker 1: funny enough. I don't know how our matches have always
Speaker 1: gone to eighteen. It's incredible now that I think back
Speaker 1: on it, you know, but it just shows how fair
Speaker 1: fair the course plays, and the better team will definitely win.
Speaker 4: And the volatility of scoring is always there because you know,
Speaker 4: you know, there are those reachable fours and that you
Speaker 4: know they talked about that part five. But the par threes,
Speaker 4: the eight par threes are you can make a two
Speaker 4: or a ten.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you missed the green. Your ball is you know,
Speaker 1: fifty feet below a surface. It's it is. It's far from.
Speaker 4: Ideal when when you're out there and you're traveling the
Speaker 4: world and you're you're engaged in all these you know,
Speaker 4: these elite level events, do you ever get does do
Speaker 4: any better ever? Does the wishbone brawl come up? Or
Speaker 4: does anybody ever talk to you? Or like on the
Speaker 4: heels of this, do you get shout outs or text messages?
Speaker 4: Is this something of a national you know, a global curiosity?
Speaker 1: I mean I think all the all the all the
Speaker 1: all my boys, all my teammates on Ryder Cup kind
Speaker 1: of know about it. They whenever, you know, they ask
Speaker 1: what I'm up to or anything, they always know of
Speaker 1: this event I played, and especially since Fred Tapton to
Speaker 1: playing last year, this event that I played with Persimon
Speaker 1: was and they all think it's awesome just to sort
Speaker 1: of go back in time away from our current technology.
Speaker 1: And they know everyone I'd say, all the all the
Speaker 1: top RAND guys are so charitable, so they all kind
Speaker 1: of know what it means to the community, and to
Speaker 1: sort of tie it into competition and old technology and
Speaker 1: equipment is just a really cool thing. So I'd say, yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of the boys are pretty aware of the
Speaker 1: event and or or you know, some thought or idea
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 4: The you know, we talk about this every year, but
Speaker 4: I think it's important. As you know, they're I think
Speaker 4: they're upwards of almost two a thousand tickets, which then
Speaker 4: means that's not counting kids. So now you'd say three
Speaker 4: hundred and four hundred kids and probably fifty to one
Speaker 4: hundred dogs. And as John always points out, you know,
Speaker 4: no rope, so let kids come up front. And I
Speaker 4: think it'll be nice because it'll move at almost a
Speaker 4: little slower pace. This sometimes it almost goes too fast,
Speaker 4: you know, like yeah, for sure, so having six balls
Speaker 4: and play might kind of slow it down and allow
Speaker 4: people to kind of get in position. But and I
Speaker 4: know I talked to Jasmine and Jane about this. I've
Speaker 4: talked to Jeff and Rowle's but looking into the crowd
Speaker 4: and watching seeing the faces on these kids, and I'm
Speaker 4: sure you probably had some of that last Saturday too.
Speaker 4: It brings us all back to our childhood. It brings
Speaker 4: us back to a simpler time with all the craziness
Speaker 4: that's happened in the world around us, beyond well beyond
Speaker 4: the world of golf. It's just it's it's nice to
Speaker 4: be able to take a second, take a breath, look
Speaker 4: into the eyes of these kids, remember who we were then,
Speaker 4: and know that the impact that we can have on
Speaker 4: them as because I'm sure that probably means something to you,
Speaker 4: right Like this is that moment I'm you know, you're
Speaker 4: starting a family, you're building up you know, who knows.
Speaker 4: But like it'd just become more and more meaningful as
Speaker 4: I think we age out into you know, our adult life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it gives it kind of adds for me at least,
Speaker 1: it definitely sort of adds to the whole purpose purpose
Speaker 1: point in life a little bit. You know. I actually
Speaker 1: was telling my wife, you know, it really is sounds
Speaker 1: like a cliche, but I was like, it really is
Speaker 1: about the kids. You know, during when I was doing
Speaker 1: that clinic, you know, I was a little nervous and
Speaker 1: seeing all these kids so happy and just so just
Speaker 1: so blue eyed, is so innocent too. Not all of
Speaker 1: them are innstant. They're asking me some tough questions. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it brought me. It brought me way back, you know,
Speaker 1: way way back to when I was just sitting on
Speaker 1: the range as a kid, just hitting balls and I
Speaker 1: was just just a happy kid, you know, And it
Speaker 1: makes me feel really lucky. It makes me feel really blessed.
Speaker 1: And yeah, when I look into the crowd, everyone's so excited,
Speaker 1: everyone's so happy, and like you said, there's one hundred dogs,
Speaker 1: so if the kids aren't super into golf, they're playing
Speaker 1: with the dogs. But for the most part, you are
Speaker 1: just marching down these fairways and you just have this
Speaker 1: wave of people and there are no ropes, and everyone,
Speaker 1: you know, anyone and everyone can just come up to
Speaker 1: say what's up. I remember one of the cool moments.
Speaker 1: These two girls gave me a bracelet last year on
Speaker 1: one of the par fives, and I put it on
Speaker 1: and I ended up chipping in on the next one
Speaker 1: and turning around to them and seeing how happy they were.
Speaker 1: I still have the bracelets in my back. You know,
Speaker 1: I'll probably you know, I'll probably they're going to be
Speaker 1: out there, I assume, so I'll throw it on for
Speaker 1: the event smiles. So it's just small, small things like that,
Speaker 1: and it does, it does make you feel really small,
Speaker 1: i'd say, in the whole scheme of things, and just
Speaker 1: to be able to make a few extra kids smile
Speaker 1: along the way is really meaningful to me.
Speaker 4: I've always said that. And this is this is this
Speaker 4: is pretty well documented that you know, Native Americans used
Speaker 4: to use that land that fifteenth t seventh tea box
Speaker 4: overlooking the land. If you look out the back of
Speaker 4: those tea boxes, it goes all the way out to
Speaker 4: the ocean. So Native Americans, you know, if you, if you,
Speaker 4: if you I've talked to a land specialist. Essentially that's
Speaker 4: that was the home base of a Native Native American
Speaker 4: tribe that used to look out because that used to
Speaker 4: be a water or a river. That that that road
Speaker 4: that goes down Oceanside Boulevard that goes all the way
Speaker 4: out to the water, that river.
Speaker 5: They used to sit up there. That there's there's shells and.
Speaker 4: Rocks and things that sort of take you back to
Speaker 4: that are origins of that land. I've always said that
Speaker 4: with John saving this land, this is there's something special
Speaker 4: there that I think the land feels, you know, I
Speaker 4: know this is crazy and deep, but I think the
Speaker 4: land feels appreciative that it gets to still be what
Speaker 4: it is and people get to roam around there and
Speaker 4: have these walks and hikes with their families and dogs,
Speaker 4: and and I think if you look back at this
Speaker 4: Wishbone Brawl, specifically, you're chipping on fifteen, Jeff's ace on
Speaker 4: the playoff hole, Will Crops putt on seventeen, Dean's ace
Speaker 4: on number five. You know, Chris Riley making you know,
Speaker 4: buckets and buckets of putts, you know, coming off like
Speaker 4: not playing a ton of golf, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 4: you know, I just you know, I get chills even
Speaker 4: talking about it, because it just seems like there's going
Speaker 4: to be something special that happens again this year. There's
Speaker 4: going to be something like there's magic in that land
Speaker 4: and this is a magical event. That's the sum total
Speaker 4: of all that's been done for you and your career,
Speaker 4: you know, Jeff, and you go back to Dean's idea
Speaker 4: and John and his life and career, and it can
Speaker 4: go to me in mind, but I think everybody has
Speaker 4: a little piece of that that's put into this We're
Speaker 4: all in it together kind of a mentality, and that
Speaker 4: energy is coming up out of the ground and into
Speaker 4: this event.
Speaker 5: And I think.
Speaker 4: That's I know that sounds deep, but I just feel
Speaker 4: like it's a reality. I really do.
Speaker 1: Now I don't, I don't, I don't. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's far fast at all or too deep. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm a big fan of using the
Speaker 1: land to benefit and I think I think that place
Speaker 1: means something different. You know, everyone is there, and it
Speaker 1: means it's different. The meaning of Goat Hills is different
Speaker 1: to each and every dive, whether it's one of the dogs,
Speaker 1: or one of the kids, or a teenager or a
Speaker 1: high schooler or someone's grandparents. You know, that's an a
Speaker 1: stroller like you see it all out there. So I
Speaker 1: think the fact that one one one spot can give
Speaker 1: so much meaning to so many different people, it shows how,
Speaker 1: you know, truly special it is. And I didn't know
Speaker 1: that fact about the property, and you know, for John
Speaker 1: to sort of honor in that way, to keep it
Speaker 1: apart and to just keep it as a sort of
Speaker 1: raw land and as a home to so many is
Speaker 1: a really cool thing.
Speaker 4: All great, Uh, And obviously you've you've you've taken all
Speaker 4: of this to a level that I don't think anybody
Speaker 4: could have ever imagined. And so on behalf of the community,
Speaker 4: and you know, I mean, you'll get a lot of appreciation.
Speaker 4: Probably got it last Saturday, You'll continue to get it
Speaker 4: this Saturday and beyond.
Speaker 5: I think you've.
Speaker 4: Got the whole Goat community that's always in your corner
Speaker 4: no matter what you're doing or where you are, and
Speaker 4: you represent, you know, the community in such a such
Speaker 4: a special way. And so thank you for all that
Speaker 4: you do and you're doing and you continue to do
Speaker 4: to try to continue to stay close to to your
Speaker 4: roots and this community in particular, because there's a point
Speaker 4: of pride there that we fly this Zander Shoffley flag. Uh,
Speaker 4: you know, in your honor as you go out and
Speaker 4: I'm embarking this big, big, bad world we're living in.
Speaker 4: So thank you and thanks for this time. And and
Speaker 4: we'll see you. We'll see you on the range tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Yeah sounds good. I am. I'm gonna go I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go find and arrange myself right out hits the balls.
Speaker 4: I saw the Layo out twins, I saw Feather walking
Speaker 4: in as the sun was going down and it was
Speaker 4: pitch black dark, and the whole layove Out family came
Speaker 4: up off of nine and I go, oh my god,
Speaker 4: you guys have been out there and they were grinding, grinding.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, I think Ryle's and I unfortunately on
Speaker 1: a similar program.
Speaker 4: And by the way, the course is in mint condition.
Speaker 4: In Fernie's double role in these Greens, do not get
Speaker 4: above this hole.
Speaker 1: I can I cannot wait. I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you so much for having me. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel I definitely feel a love from the community,
Speaker 1: from all the goat Go Hill lovers and just just
Speaker 1: San Diego in general. So it's it's definitely a special thing.
Speaker 1: And you know, if anyone and everyone please come out,
Speaker 1: we look forward to seeing you out there.
Speaker 5: Wait to see the new fire pit.
Speaker 4: By the way, that'll be going so left of first t.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know that's Santa Anna's kind of been hanging around.
Speaker 1: It's been a little bit warmer than than the years past,
Speaker 1: so hopefully, I mean we get one more, one more
Speaker 1: good day.
Speaker 5: She is Andrew.
Speaker 2: Thanks Matt, you tomorrow, Thank you, buddy.
Speaker 3: Put another log on the fire. They here is get
Speaker 3: the tired