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Speaker 1: We're back with another episode of an Art Award. Today

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Speaker 1: we're in Houston, Texas, h Town. I got a Texas

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Speaker 1: native with me today. It's a man that I have

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Speaker 1: a lot of respect for. It's a man that's been

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Speaker 1: on top of the game and it's sport of boxing

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Speaker 1: for a very long time.

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Speaker 2: He ducked no One.

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Speaker 1: He's a twenty twelve Olympian, he's a three time world champion.

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Speaker 2: And it's Mster big Fish, mister no tune up.

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Speaker 1: I want to welcome to the show, Dallas native Aerol Spith.

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Speaker 1: Oh well man, brother, it's been a long time coming.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, for sure.

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Speaker 1: You know we been uh we've been locked in for

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Speaker 1: a minute, just you know, throughout the last couple of years,

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Speaker 1: just you know, me checking on you and you know,

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Speaker 1: you reaching back, just seeing how you doing, how you

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Speaker 1: processing life. You know, it's a lot of life outside

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Speaker 1: of this sport. Man, So we've been able to lock

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Speaker 1: in on that front. And we always knew he was

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Speaker 1: gonna sit down, but just waiting for the right time.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm a firm believer man that you know,

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Speaker 1: things happened at the right time God's turn, and uh,

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Speaker 1: we waited for that and here we are.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for sure, and I appreciate that too. Like

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Speaker 3: you asked me when we're gonna talk, and you didn't.

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Speaker 3: You wouldn't somebody who you know, blowing me up would

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Speaker 3: be like, yo, when we're gonna do this. We're gonna

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Speaker 3: do this like you hit me one time, like I'll

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Speaker 3: talk you know when I'm ready. And even after my loss,

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Speaker 3: like you was one of the only dudes that was

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Speaker 3: still checking on me, that was hitting me up. I

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Speaker 3: was like, man, this solid, Like even after year, you

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Speaker 3: were still checking on me. And a lot of dudes

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Speaker 3: they wasn't checking on me. You know, I had a few,

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Speaker 3: but it wasn't really anybody that's just checking on me

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Speaker 3: or anybody outside of the sport checking on me like

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Speaker 3: that like you was.

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Speaker 4: Besides family, man.

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Speaker 2: Bro, you know, I've been on both sides.

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Speaker 1: You know, I've been retired eight years now and been

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Speaker 1: in the trenches for a very long time, just like

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Speaker 1: you have. So I just understand that, like you know,

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Speaker 1: a lot of times we don't have a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: We got our family, but outside of that, man, it's

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Speaker 1: a lot of people that come and go, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, when I have my retirement party. It's a

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Speaker 1: deacon in my church, man that played in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Man real close to and I used to always talk

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Speaker 1: to him like, man, how did you know when it

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Speaker 1: was time to retire?

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Speaker 2: And this and that?

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Speaker 1: So he would like be talking me through it. But

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Speaker 1: he was at my retirement party at my house. He

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Speaker 1: pulled me in my office. He was like, it's a

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Speaker 1: lot of people in this house right now. You ain't

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Speaker 1: gonna never talk to again.

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Speaker 2: Fact. I was like, what you mean, said watch?

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Speaker 1: He was right, yeah, just people I just don't connect with,

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Speaker 1: Like boxing was the connection and then when that's gone,

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Speaker 1: we don't really have a lot in common.

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Speaker 2: It's not personal. Just is what it is.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 4: That's fasto.

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Speaker 2: But man, I'm happy to be sitting with you, bro,

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Speaker 2: whether you gotta fight coming up. We ain't just talking

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Speaker 2: me in the training house right now.

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Speaker 1: I got me when I came with here, I say, man,

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Speaker 1: I got their training care y man.

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Speaker 2: So I mean you seem like.

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Speaker 1: Bro, you taking this serious obviously because you know you

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Speaker 1: want to bounce back. But you know we're gonna get

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Speaker 1: to the fight in a second. Let me ask you

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Speaker 1: how you feeling, and then we're gonna we're gonna take

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Speaker 1: it back to the beginning. You feeling the camp, man,

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Speaker 1: how's everything going so far?

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Speaker 4: I'm feeling good man.

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Speaker 3: Good thing. I started camp early because I mean stuff started.

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Speaker 3: You feel stuff like aches and things that I don't

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Speaker 3: know if I don't know if I feel from three

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Speaker 3: years ago, but they feel like new. Like I was like, man,

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Speaker 3: this ain't never hurt before, Like it just started aching,

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Speaker 3: like you feel.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, you just feel different.

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Speaker 3: But you know, you see gotta wait, you gotta work,

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Speaker 3: and now you know you gotta take some time off

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Speaker 3: like our days off for Friday and Sundays. Like back before,

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Speaker 3: it was like I was grinding, like see seven days

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Speaker 3: a week, like just just grinding, like grinding, grinding myself down. Really,

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Speaker 3: still working hard, but I'm taking the time to listen

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Speaker 3: to my body, like nah, were gonna chill today, or

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Speaker 3: or nah, we're not gonna go hard every day. You

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Speaker 3: can't go hard every day, especially when you like older.

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Speaker 3: Fay used to tell me this, but now I know

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Speaker 3: once you get a little older, Yeah, your body to

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Speaker 3: hear you're like, nah, like cher is today? How they

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Speaker 3: gave you three hard day. It's like, we're gonna take

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Speaker 3: it light today. So it's been a huge it's been

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Speaker 3: a huge adjustment that I had to do a real

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Speaker 3: shift and like how train and how I go about things.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you could when you're grinder. The way you've been grinding,

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Speaker 1: you feel like you're doing something wrong. Taking that day

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Speaker 1: off or not going on on a schedule a work day. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if you wake up and you know, I was always

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Speaker 1: blessed to have verge, man, because even when I was

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Speaker 1: like at my peak, I would if it was just

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Speaker 1: left up to me, I would blow it because I

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Speaker 1: had the desire to want to win plus the fear

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Speaker 1: of losing. So it'd be days He'll call me and

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Speaker 1: just be like, take off today. I'm like, nah, y'all

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Speaker 1: got to go to the track and he said, listen,

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Speaker 1: how you feel yesterday? I said, I felt great, spot

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Speaker 1: twelve rounds, still three weeks out, take off today.

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Speaker 2: So I take off. Then the next day I come

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Speaker 2: back and sport feel amazing. Yeah. So just you know,

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Speaker 2: needing that kind of voice, man, powerful, But that's the

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Speaker 2: biggest thing you could do bro.

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Speaker 4: Right now, now that's dope.

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Speaker 3: I watched I watched some of y'all love some of

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Speaker 3: y'all interview, like the highlights and stuff and what I

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Speaker 3: got of it. You know, you had a father, but

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Speaker 3: it's still a father and son kind of relationship, you know.

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Speaker 3: And he's a very knowledgeable person. A lot of wisdom used,

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Speaker 3: like just for him to tell you, like, take a

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Speaker 3: day off. He went too hard, Like and with me,

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Speaker 3: I go spar twelve, fist here and round, run crazy,

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Speaker 3: you know, jump rope and do everything. And then the

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Speaker 3: next day I'm doing the same thing, even if I'm

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Speaker 3: dead tired. You know, I'm doing it all over again,

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Speaker 3: even though you know it's hurting, it's painful. You know,

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Speaker 3: I'm young enough and I could still go and do it.

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Speaker 3: But you just gotta be smarter and just be like, nah,

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Speaker 3: I'm a chill say well, I you know I didn't

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Speaker 4: I was just.

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Speaker 1: Working, Yeah, Texas, he ain't right, Yeah, it ain't right, bro.

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Speaker 3: And the gym was like one hundred and twenty degrees

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Speaker 3: like fans no Ac, Yeah, fans no AC, fans blowing hotter.

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Speaker 2: Brother thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, bro, but it gave you, It gave you some

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Speaker 3: grit though, yeah, gave you that grit. But if I had,

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Speaker 3: if I could wish, I wouldn't do over end. But

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Speaker 3: if I could do it over en, you know, I'd

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Speaker 3: just be a lot smarter, like just having simple things

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Speaker 3: like having electrolytes and sold them in my water and

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Speaker 3: just thinking that you know that's gonna replenish me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, man, it's dope.

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 2: Hey, wisdom come of age.

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Speaker 4: Man, Yeah, for sure, that's facts.

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Speaker 1: Take me back man to you know, the Soto Texas

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Speaker 1: man in the early days, type of kid with aero

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Speaker 1: Spence six seven, eight years.

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Speaker 4: Old, six seven. I was just sit the helling.

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Speaker 3: I just acted like sports always interests me, Like I

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Speaker 3: was always sports. School that was never my thing. And

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Speaker 3: I think my dad realized, Dad that you know, I

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Speaker 3: can't getting in trouble. Yeah, things like that. My dad

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Speaker 3: was like, you know, I like sports. The only thing

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Speaker 3: was it football, only thing on my mind. That's all

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Speaker 3: I was interested in doing. I wasn't interested in school

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Speaker 3: and just yeah I used to I used to find

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Speaker 3: think that's what my dad got me in the Boston

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Speaker 3: One of my partners, one of my partners, I guess

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Speaker 3: his cousin used to buy so he used to walk

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Speaker 2: Oh for real.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, He's to walking around box the gloves, shying and

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Speaker 3: why did you get me in Boston?

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Speaker 4: He was like, man, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I'm just trying to keep you out of trouble because

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Speaker 3: during summer school, I got in boxing during summer school,

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Speaker 3: it's uh where it's a nigga noc or you know

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying, throwing rocks head cards.

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Speaker 4: We used to make sling shots.

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Speaker 3: Where you you gotta you got a bottle cap and

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Speaker 3: And we had alleyways, so we hitting cars and things

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Speaker 3: to quit after about it a couple of weeks because

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Speaker 3: it was it was kind of hard. And I came

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Speaker 3: with some friends too, and they actually they stopped going.

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Speaker 3: They quit, Yeah, they quit, And then I wanted to quit.

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Speaker 3: My dad told me, I remember clear as day. He

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Speaker 3: was like, I'm not gonna let you quit because you're

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Speaker 3: quitting this, You'll quit in anything, you know. So sure,

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Speaker 3: I stayed with it, and then eventually I just fell

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Speaker 3: in love with you. But at first I didn't like

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Speaker 3: it at all.

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Speaker 2: The same boxing gym that Victoria Teas.

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Speaker 3: Is from, uh Virgieoorge. Yeah, same John. I remember he was.

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Speaker 4: He was a little kid.

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Speaker 2: R Vera was it vial box, Yeah, yeah, you was

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Speaker 2: fifteen at that time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was fifteen.

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Speaker 3: It was a a lot of kids, man, but nobody really,

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Speaker 4: I was putting dudes down.

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Speaker 4: But as soon as it's.

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Speaker 1: A lot of cats started at seven, eight, nine, ten

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Speaker 3: They've been doing it since five six so it might

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Speaker 4: With me, it's like it's brand new.

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Speaker 3: So I'm pumped up by fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, that's only seventeen. Sure,

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Speaker 1: People don't think about that. You start boxing at eight, eight,

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: That's a lot of punches, a lot of camps, a

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Speaker 3: Like I I tell a lot of these dudes, can

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Speaker 3: Like like, my son not doing that, Bro, I know

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Speaker 2: Out, just getting his hands right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's getting his hands right, getting ready. It ain't work, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it ain't worth it. You gotta ad them about fifteen sixteen.

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Speaker 2: But right now, nah, yeah, that frontal lobe and all

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he probably he probably trying to punish you show.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because I didn't know that in football either. When

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Speaker 3: But we did like we didn't know that in football. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, differently now. I feel like these coaches kind of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I think I think our ara. I'm a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you couldn't be sensitive.

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Speaker 4: It was dope, man.

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Speaker 3: going I'm going professional. Yeah, I'm going proe to that.

437
00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,359
Speaker 2: You know it really lost by what one or two points,

438
00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:52,520
Speaker 2: like to like.

439
00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:54,239
Speaker 4: One or two points fights too.

440
00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. Who was coming after you at that time? Manage

441
00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:59,080
Speaker 2: your wives? Uh?

442
00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:05,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, uh shoot, everybody was I'm saying before you even

443
00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:06,160
Speaker 3: turned pro.

444
00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:07,720
Speaker 4: Or before I even turned pro.

445
00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:10,680
Speaker 3: I don't know. That's something you got to ask my dad.

446
00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,639
Speaker 3: You know, nobody get to you now. They couldn't get

447
00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:13,840
Speaker 3: to me.

448
00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,000
Speaker 1: Okay, so three months later you turned pro. So from

449
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,880
Speaker 1: the time you left the Olympics, intendent, who was you talking? Said,

450
00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:20,679
Speaker 1: you're talking to everybody with all around.

451
00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:21,840
Speaker 2: At that time. Yeah.

452
00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:23,639
Speaker 4: I was around because I didn't know.

453
00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:27,199
Speaker 3: But uh, the people he worked, the people who were

454
00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,640
Speaker 3: under him, like Brad and Brad and them, they had

455
00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:33,760
Speaker 3: came to the Olympic of the Olympics and everything. They

456
00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,399
Speaker 3: was trying to talk to my dad and stuff when

457
00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,240
Speaker 3: my dad wasn't talking to him. Yeah, he want talk

458
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,680
Speaker 3: to him because they told him at the Olympic training center,

459
00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:44,000
Speaker 3: they told they said, do not talk to like any

460
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,400
Speaker 3: managers or anybody because you know that could get your

461
00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:53,200
Speaker 3: your father disqualified. So yeah, so he wouldn't even he

462
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,119
Speaker 3: didn't know if they was some He didn't know who

463
00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,480
Speaker 3: it was. He didn't know if it's real or not.

464
00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,680
Speaker 3: So he ain't talk to anybody to It was tign

465
00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:01,600
Speaker 3: to turn professional.

466
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,600
Speaker 2: Did you turn with Al? Initially?

467
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,080
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, did you meet Al?

468
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,000
Speaker 2: Was you just talking to his people? They called out

469
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 2: the ghost brother? You don't see all that money?

470
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was fortunate enough to see to see. I

471
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,680
Speaker 3: feel like I see how more than more than most

472
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 3: boxes have, Like even talked to him, like I still

473
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,080
Speaker 3: talked to as you know what I'm saying. But at

474
00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,879
Speaker 3: first it was a couple of people. It was like man,

475
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,639
Speaker 3: it was I was talking. I was talking top Rank.

476
00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,919
Speaker 3: I didn't really didn't too much talking into Prince. I

477
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,679
Speaker 3: think he was going through my coach or whatever. But

478
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 3: I was I was talking to ty Rank really deep,

479
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,440
Speaker 3: like and ty Rank. You know, they was offering me.

480
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,879
Speaker 3: He was signing bonus and all that, this and that,

481
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 3: and my dad was actually the deciding factor and who

482
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 3: I was going with because I wanted to go with

483
00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 3: ty Rank cause it was giving me to underfixed as

484
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 3: I just need that. I mean like, and I wasn't.

485
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:04,679
Speaker 4: Giving me nothing.

486
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:06,919
Speaker 3: He was. He was trying to give me like a

487
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 3: stifen like fifteen hundred the month, fifteen hundred a month,

488
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 3: and I was getting paid by USC Boxing probably like

489
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,399
Speaker 3: two thousand a month or something like that. So I'm like, man, like,

490
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 3: he ain't even trying to give me nothing, and he was.

491
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 3: And then but I was talking more about, you know,

492
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 3: the future he was talking more about because he was

493
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,120
Speaker 3: saying stuff that was going over my head at time.

494
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 3: He was talking about after I retire, retirement, and yeah,

495
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,919
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm telling my dad like I'm just getting started,

496
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,919
Speaker 3: like what is he talking about retirement and stuff? And

497
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 3: my dad was like, man, I feel like you should

498
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 3: go out because he's talking about you know, longevity and

499
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 3: talking about you know, your future, talking about life after

500
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 3: boxing like this guy, Yeah he's gonna get you twenty

501
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 3: five thousand, but he gonna get it back like that

502
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 3: twenty fifty thousand. It's not it's yours right now, but

503
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 3: he gonna he gonna find a way to get it back.

504
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 4: You know, he's just tabbing you. That's the start of

505
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 4: your bill.

506
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 3: And I just and I was like and I just

507
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 3: listened to my possibly like I bet we're gonna go

508
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:18,439
Speaker 3: out now.

509
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 2: That thing worked out.

510
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 4: It definitely worked that long run.

511
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 1: What is it like working with our, bro, it's a

512
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,959
Speaker 1: lot of it's a lot of rumors about our it's

513
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 1: a lot.

514
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 2: Of you know, I moves the way he moved. What's

515
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 2: been your experience?

516
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 3: Well with my experience, I mean I was more it

517
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 3: was too I don't know, Bro, I felt like he

518
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,199
Speaker 3: was too I don't know, it was just too he

519
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 3: was too nice. And I always had like at first,

520
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 3: I was like, bro, just some something up, because when

521
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 3: somebody like too nice or too like genuine and stuff,

522
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 3: you like, man something up. He gonna get me somehow,

523
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 3: he gonna he gonna snake me somehow. And with I

524
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 3: like he'll tire man. They used to send me stuff

525
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 3: all the time, like send me stuff about you know,

526
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 3: fighters going broke and fighters fighters going broke. Even before

527
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,959
Speaker 3: they retire like they live and fight to fight, you know,

528
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 3: checks and things like that. They used to send me

529
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 3: that all the time. And he's always just talk to

530
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 3: me about you know, saving my money and you know,

531
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 3: and things like that. And he's always just talked to

532
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 3: me about stuff other than boxing and always just just

533
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 3: looking out for me. And I was like, and that's

534
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 3: why with me, my little t always you know, been

535
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 3: with out, because for me, it was always bigger than boxing.

536
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,959
Speaker 3: Like was talking on the phone. He's not talking about

537
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 3: boxing or who I'm gonna fight or this and that.

538
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 3: He's just talking about life and life experiences and and

539
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 3: and different things that you know that came, that happened.

540
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 3: But you know, I didn't really realize what he was

541
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 3: talking about. But I knew he was saying. I was listening,

542
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,479
Speaker 3: but I ain't know what he's talking about. Like I'm

543
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 3: a young dude. I'm like, yeah, I hear what she's saying.

544
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,439
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I'm listening, Yeah, I hear you.

545
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 3: But for him, he was just he was just genuine, bro.

546
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 3: He was just genuine always you know, checked on me

547
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 3: even to this day, always checked on my family and uh,

548
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 3: and he wanted the people to always you know, looked

549
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 3: out like he stayed checking on me. It don't matter

550
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 3: when I when I lost car accident, you know, he

551
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 3: came to the hospital, you know, checked on me stuff.

552
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 3: And I didn't even know he came to the hospital.

553
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 3: They were saying, when he came to the hospital, I

554
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 3: was I was telling him about who I wanted to

555
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 3: fight when I get back. Yeah, I was telling who

556
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 3: I wanted to fight when I get back. Yeah, I

557
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 3: want to fight this dude. Yeah, I want like when

558
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 3: I get back. And it was like, man, they was

559
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 3: like they didn't even know if I was even gonna

560
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 3: come back to boxing. But he always always looked out

561
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,679
Speaker 3: for me. It don't matter what legal stuff I was

562
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:02,159
Speaker 3: going through anything, Like, he always made sure, you know

563
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, I was okay or I was good.

564
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 2: Man, that's rare in the game.

565
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 3: And he helped me cause I because my experience is

566
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 3: just like after, not after, but like right now in

567
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 3: my career, bro, like a lot of dudes, yeah, you

568
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 3: make a lot of money, but but after you fight,

569
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 3: you start bleeding again. Like yeah, you pass it up,

570
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 3: but as soon as you fight, you get some more

571
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,919
Speaker 3: money and then you're not fighting for a year or whatever,

572
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 3: but you're bleeding out because you have no pro no investments,

573
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 3: nothing going on or anything.

574
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 4: Like I told him.

575
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 3: I was like, man, like, yeah, I make a lot

576
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 3: of money, but when I'm not fighting, money is just

577
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 3: coming out, and you know, nothing's coming in. Like I know,

578
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 3: I couldn't, I couldn't sustain because when boxing over with,

579
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 3: it like, I'm just gonna have money like flying out,

580
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 3: nothing coming in. And you know, I'll help me out,

581
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 3: put me with his with his people, people he worked

582
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 3: with personally, advisors and all that, and uh, you know,

583
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,479
Speaker 3: and helped me out and make sure that you know,

584
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 3: I got that piece of mind that you know, when

585
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 3: boxing is over, I'm gonna be okay. I'm gonna be

586
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,199
Speaker 3: good like I can live like I'm living now. So

587
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 3: you know that's why I say, you know, I feel

588
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 3: like he'll blessing to me just because I stuck with

589
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 3: him and and stayed with him, and he's helped me

590
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 3: out thus far, and he made sure he gave me

591
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 3: that comfort that when boxing over with, I'll be okay regardless.

592
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 3: And I feel like that's as a man, that's the

593
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,919
Speaker 3: biggest comfort you know, you can have, especially financially to

594
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 3: you know, your family good.

595
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's that, that's that's what you call success.

596
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 3: For sure.

597
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,719
Speaker 1: We can talk about the wins and losses and all

598
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: that stuff you know that come with the game, and

599
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: we know what comes with it, but to be able

600
00:27:56,040 --> 00:28:00,080
Speaker 1: to have your legacy intact, no mean you don't be

601
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: through no bumps in the road.

602
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 2: I mean that you overcame it. You got through it.

603
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: And then financially having your stuff right for the babies

604
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: and then you know whoever your wife is, what you

605
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 1: whatever your home situation is, that's success, bro.

606
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 3: For sure.

607
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 1: You know so I love to hear it, bro, because

608
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: and that's why I love this platform and being able

609
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: to talk about these things because not just for the

610
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: young fighters, all the fighters too.

611
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 2: We weren't taught this stuff, most of us. And it's hard.

612
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 2: People like you went another athlete went broke.

613
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: It's hard to budget when you have a lot of

614
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: different stuff going out.

615
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 2: You gotta fixed income. It's different.

616
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: You got ten bills, okay, you can look at that,

617
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: when you got thirty bills, when you got forty bills.

618
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: How you gonna budget that? How you know the difference

619
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: between Okay, this is a need and a one. Okay,

620
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: what about this investment. It's easy, people say, invest your

621
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: money invested in the what man cannot trust. So it's

622
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: it's just it's really cool, bro hearing that, man, and

623
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: that makes me.

624
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 2: I be at peace. Man, when I hear people like

625
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 2: yourself talk about things like that make me.

626
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: Feel like, Man, we were growing man. You know, it's

627
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: so I appreciate even even even taking that round. I've

628
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: heard that from him before because I think I heard

629
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's true, but his brother, I

630
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: think boxing got a wrong.

631
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 2: Deal and ate three men and he got you know

632
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 2: just what.

633
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: I think that was kind of the catalyst of him

634
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: saying I'm gonna get in.

635
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 3: The game and change it and change it.

636
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 2: Is that what you heard too? Yeah?

637
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 4: I heard the same.

638
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 3: Well, I know, he just told me the story. My

639
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 3: brother was a boxer. Yeah, and he fought Sugary Leonard

640
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 3: and you know he got pennies, man, and he's just

641
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 3: heard about different fighters getting pennied. He was like, you

642
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 3: know what, I can change this, and he came in

643
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 3: the game and you know, try to change it. I

644
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 3: feel like a lot of boxes. I feel like a

645
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 3: lot of boxes and listen to him, and a lot

646
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 3: of boxes don't ask, like a lot of people attimidate.

647
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 3: I guess by Alana Steeve. But you know, even my dad,

648
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 3: My dad told, my dad told him too, like can

649
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 3: you help can you ever help Aero say, you know,

650
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 3: not save his money, but you know, invests his money

651
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 3: so and help it grow. So when he's done with Boston,

652
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 3: you know he'll be okay. And you know that's what

653
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 3: I did, Like he hooked me up with all his

654
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 3: personal people and not only hooked me up with them, boss,

655
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 3: so beat her in the meetings with them, you know,

656
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 3: just making sure everything's right and everything good.

657
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's a blessing man, It's a blessing man.

658
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: You quickly became an ESPN prospect. It seemed like you

659
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: was kind of on the fast track, like you wanted

660
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: to move fast. I think right around at twenty twelve,

661
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, you at the infamous Foreign session with Floyd

662
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: Jordan Mateweather. Tell me about that day, man, how did

663
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: you end up in the ring at Mayweather Boxing Club

664
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: with Mayweather?

665
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 2: On that day?

666
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 3: Lewis Aries and Jay Leon Love had hit me up.

667
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 3: It was like, man, Floyd, Floyd beating there, Floyd beating

668
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 3: everybody else. He needs some work and all this and that,

669
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,719
Speaker 3: and I'm like, all right, cool win. It was like, shoot,

670
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 3: you can call next week. I'm like, dangin' this week.

671
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 3: Like and then I was like okay man, I was

672
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 3: like all right big And then once I got there,

673
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie. I was. I was nervous. I

674
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 3: was nervous at first, you know, exployed and everybody in

675
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 3: the gym like, but all the nervous just went away.

676
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 3: Like I said, you know what I'm saying, I feel like,

677
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 3: you know, I'm kind of different. I like when people

678
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 3: people going against me, and like when people start hitting

679
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 3: the ring, Oh we're the dog. Has we in this?

680
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 3: We in that? That kind of it clicked. Something just

681
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 3: something just changed in me, like, oh, these dudes got

682
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 3: me messed up, like hitting the ring Like I'm not

683
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 3: him either. Ain't like I'm dog for man. I'm like, bro, man,

684
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 3: come on, so we go. We spoiled. You know what

685
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 3: I'm saying. It was it was it was good work.

686
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 3: And then we get out, We get out the ring.

687
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 3: I guess he and the bag. Then he was like

688
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 3: you a eyeful And then I was I didn't really

689
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,239
Speaker 3: just I ain't really just I don't know who he

690
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 3: was talking to, so I ain't repaying no mind. Then

691
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 3: he said it again. He said, you're aieful.

692
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 2: He said that as he hit the bag.

693
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, as he hit the bag of floy talk when

694
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 3: he's boy, he's gonna talk talk crazy too, And I'm like,

695
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 3: who you talking to? He was like, I'm talking to you.

696
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 3: And then I was like, man, we can put our

697
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 3: step back. I don't get back in the ring. He

698
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 3: was like, what I said, we put I don't get

699
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 3: back in the ring. Matter of fact, we turned off

700
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 3: the bell. We turned out the bell, like it's whatever.

701
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 3: I'm I'm twenty one three years old, so you know

702
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, he said, I been we get back

703
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 3: in the ring. We worked no bill for like probably

704
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 3: like seven eight minutes or whatever we work and then

705
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 3: he rolled out, I'm like you good. You know what

706
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like you good? Yeah, it's like good word

707
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 3: whatever he can say. They just kept working or whatever. So,

708
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:02,959
Speaker 3: I mean, the sparm was good, bro. It was a

709
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 3: it was a it was it was a good experience.

710
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 3: Like he don't just seeing like different trickses to do

711
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 3: and like, man, dude, he pinched my nose before. It

712
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 3: is good like inside, yeah, inside, like he did all

713
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 3: type of stuff was just seeing like how he never

714
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 3: he never really get rid up, like he never gets

715
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 3: rid up. One thing by him. He always kept his composure.

716
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter what he doing, you know what happened,

717
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 3: you know how you coming. He always stayed locked in.

718
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 3: Don't care what going on, what he doing, nothing, what

719
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 3: you doing. He always stay locked in and always just

720
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 3: kept his composure. That's one of the main things I

721
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 3: got from and his work, his work ethic. I'm like,

722
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 3: always working. I don't know how he do it. But

723
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 3: he'll be up one in the morning at that place.

724
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 3: He's just talking, chilling. But I think he go to

725
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 3: sleep like he don't wake up to one o'clock. He

726
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 3: comes to gym life three yeah, like thirty four, and

727
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 3: then like he'll stay up to like thirty four am.

728
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 3: But I think his clocks are different, so for sure

729
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 3: he'll sleep to like thirty pm whatever and then come

730
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 3: to the gym and do what he do again like that.

731
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 3: But I mean his work at it was it was

732
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 3: and still is, you know different.

733
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,760
Speaker 2: Do you think about him coming back right now at fifty.

734
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 3: I mean I don't really care for it at fifty,

735
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 3: but I mean he looking good, and I mean he

736
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 3: fighting somebody ould his pack yard.

737
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 2: Pack yard there too. He probably close to it, maybe

738
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 2: a little younger, maybe I think it's a little younger.

739
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess, you know, two fifty year olds fighting

740
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 3: for seven. I mean it's it's it's a fair fight.

741
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 3: It's a fair fight. It's a fair fight. I mean,

742
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to see him fighting somebody thirty years

743
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 3: old or fighting fighting a young buck. You know, he's

744
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 3: fighting somebody his age and you know, I don't know

745
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 3: how true it is, but his situation, but I mean

746
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 3: it's something you probably you know, got to do.

747
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 2: So you know what was what was Floyd's like physical

748
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 2: strength like in.

749
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 3: The ring or he was strong? Yeah, he's strong and

750
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 3: he's always balanced.

751
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 2: Like what that pop feel like? Can?

752
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 3: It ain't nothing crazy, but it's more of a like

753
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 3: if he catched you flushed. You're gonna feel it, but

754
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 3: it ain't nothing like. It ain't nothing like crazy power

755
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 3: like a short Yeah, you're gonna feel its sharp, accurate

756
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 3: like precision more than anything.

757
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 1: Did you get some feedback from Floyd. I mean not Floyd,

758
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 1: but an hour after that, after that smarting session, not that.

759
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 3: I remember, but not not really nah, but I remember

760
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 3: Floyd was Floyd was trying to sign me and uh yeah,

761
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 3: he was trying to sign me and stuff, and I

762
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 3: was just like, nah.

763
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 2: But that's smart in session. Legendary, Bro, It's legendary.

764
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 3: People talk about it. I just never really, you know,

765
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 3: bring it up like that because I feel like, you know,

766
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 3: what happened in the gym, us staying in the gym,

767
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,760
Speaker 3: so you know, I just keep the cold.

768
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, I respect it. Man.

769
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: In May of twenty seventeen, you had the opportunity to

770
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: go to England to face kell Brook.

771
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, why did you go over there?

772
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 3: No doubt in my mind I was going in like

773
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 3: no issue. It was no issue, bro. I never have

774
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 3: that in my mind like I'm gonna lose, especially at

775
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 3: that time, like it was like, you know, I'm finna

776
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 3: go over here and dog and then I watched I

777
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 3: watched a lot of movies like Spartan movies and all

778
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 3: this and that, so I got kind of an itch

779
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 3: and stuff to even do that. Like, man, I'm finna

780
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 3: go to Green the Foreign and I'm finna go conquered,

781
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,760
Speaker 3: conquered it, like, go get this big, go get this belt.

782
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 3: So I was like, man, I'm finna go over there,

783
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 3: like it's gonna be dope because I wanted to take

784
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 3: the belt from someone. You know what I'm saying. He

785
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 3: was I champions just be Sean Porton. So he was,

786
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 3: you know, the guy at forty seven. So I just

787
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,760
Speaker 3: want to go over there and beat him.

788
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 2: What was the brownie stuff about?

789
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 3: What was this dude talking about?

790
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 4: Brownie was punched.

791
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:15,919
Speaker 3: That's his right hand, right hand, chocolate brownie. So stand

792
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 3: I'm like, brown, I guess it's an anglingd thing.

793
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 4: I don't know.

794
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 2: And then you beat him? Yeah, and then you eating

795
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 2: brownies after the fight?

796
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:26,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, you posted brown after the.

797
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.

798
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

799
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 3: It was. It was man, it was. That was a

800
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 3: dope experience. Like my first was how to fight. I

801
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 3: wish I'd have took that in a little bit more.

802
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 3: I wish I wish I'd have sat it in a

803
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 3: little bit more. What I was already thinking about. You

804
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,760
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, what's next? When I'm gonna do next?

805
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 3: Like I never really just I never really just sat

806
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 3: in my wings like that or like, I don't even think,

807
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 3: like I watched that fight. Probably I probably watched that

808
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 3: fight probably three times three or foot like ever, I

809
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 3: never I never watched my fight because I see so much.

810
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 3: You see so many things you do wrong when you

811
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 3: watch your don't fight. So I hate watching my fight too.

812
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 3: I've never watched Heyah, I was like, man, I feel

813
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 3: like you just you criticize it. So you're like, man, yeah,

814
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 3: what I'm doing that, I'm the worst of that.

815
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: Bro Like, I don't listen back, no commentating, like I'm

816
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 1: really supposed to be listening back, listening for mistakes, trying

817
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 1: to get better.

818
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 2: I don't watch it back because I don't really like

819
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 2: to hear myself talk.

820
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 3: You know.

821
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 2: I don't like it.

822
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,439
Speaker 1: My wife, like you said, nah, I sound crazy. It's

823
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: just the tone of my voice just it just sound weird. Yeah,

824
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: you know, so I'm kind of critical of myself, like

825
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: you know a lot with that kind of stuff. Did

826
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: you feel any type of way about about people trying

827
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: to take from the wind and say, oh, he got

828
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 1: his orbital bone broke from glove skin and then you

829
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 1: go you you thought a damage kill Brooke.

830
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 2: Did you feel away about that?

831
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 3: Nah? I mean he got he got in there, bro,

832
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,959
Speaker 3: it don't like it don't matter, Like I didn't feel

833
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 3: no way at all about it. Like if that's the case,

834
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 3: he should have vacated the build, right and I would

835
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 3: have offed somebody else for So. I mean, he was

836
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 3: a standing out guy. He you know, he wanted to

837
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 3: fight for his build, and uh, you know he felt good.

838
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 3: I mean I damaged the other eyes so that I

839
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 3: didn't get that. I didn't get damaged.

840
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 2: We left that one.

841
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I damaged the other eyes. So I mean

842
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 3: that had nothing to do with me.

843
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 1: I think a twenty eighteen that's when you and Crawford

844
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: had that that that viral moment.

845
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 2: What was y'all at when y'all was going back and forth?

846
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:39,720
Speaker 2: You're on that red hoodie.

847
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 3: It was in Oklahoma, Maurice Hooker had just fought.

848
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 4: Did you know he was gonna be there?

849
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 3: Yeah?

850
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 4: I knew he was gonna be there.

851
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I knew.

852
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 2: How did y'all what happened in the back, Like, how

853
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 2: y'all come come in contact with each other?

854
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 4: I don't know how did that happen?

855
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 3: Man? That was so long ago. I think I was

856
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 3: either I was doing the interview or he was doing

857
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 3: the interview or something. Damn. We just we just made

858
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,399
Speaker 3: each other head on and we was talking. I'm glad.

859
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 4: I ain't bet that million.

860
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 3: Dollars that was what was talking about. That million. Yeah,

861
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 3: we're talking about that man. But that was like, that

862
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 3: was eighteen. That was a long time ago.

863
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 2: Long. Tell me about your relationship with Jerry Jones.

864
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: How did that? How did that come about? Obviously from Dallas,

865
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's a big man to be in contact with.

866
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 3: Yeah. Sure, our relationship just you know, me always being

867
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 3: a cowboys guy. And then the relationship first came about.

868
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 3: I guess you know, he had heard you know, through

869
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 3: the grave mind. And then I followed at his at

870
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 3: the training center in Frisco, and I did my thing.

871
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 4: I didn't even think I was gonna.

872
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 3: Be able to sell that many, Like I'm like, bro,

873
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 3: I'm here, Like I think it was like fifteen or

874
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 3: twenty thousand tickets or something like that. I'm like, ya

875
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 3: want me to, you know, do this, you know when

876
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 3: I did it, and then we just started, you know,

877
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,720
Speaker 3: communicating with each other. He started talking to men. Jerry Jones,

878
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 3: I mean, he seemed to be a down omber person,

879
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 3: like just talking to him, like, you know, he just

880
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 3: a cool person.

881
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 2: So y'all connected.

882
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: And then you had your first fight with Mikey Garcia

883
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: in at and T State. Brother, that's that's a whole

884
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 1: lot of seats.

885
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

886
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you did like forty seven thousand or

887
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: something like that.

888
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, we five men dollar Gate.

889
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 3: Yeah we did some crazy. That was that was big.

890
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 2: That was crazy.

891
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was that was a huge. Especially you really

892
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 3: don't see black Americans doing something like that, so they

893
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 3: would do something like that and draw them people in

894
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 3: the crowd and everybody come out watching you. Man, that

895
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 3: was that was a dope moment. I think I kinda

896
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 3: I kind of took that one in like I was like, man,

897
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 3: it's crazy because I was telling him like, y'all wanted

898
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 3: to fight at the a sence he stayed in them.

899
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 2: Like in capacity like seventy or yeah, like it was

900
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 2: like seventy or one hundre.

901
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 3: It's crazy. I'm like, y'all wanted to fight here. Like

902
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 3: it's like yeah, I'm like, man a y'all you know,

903
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 3: y'all know about all this. I'm not y'all gonna take

904
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 3: the loss if you go bad anyway, so I was like,

905
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 3: all right, I do it. But at first I had

906
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 3: my preserves about it.

907
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 4: I didn't want to do it.

908
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: So you in camp getting ready for that far you

909
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,919
Speaker 1: hearing like, Yo, the ticket they selling. Are you hearing

910
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 1: about this?

911
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 3: Yeah? I was.

912
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 4: I was hearing about it.

913
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 3: I was hearing about it, but I just didn't know

914
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 3: it was going to do that well. Especially, man, it's

915
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 3: crazy like coming out and just seeing you know, all

916
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 3: those people. I walk through the crowd, I'm seeing people

917
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 3: from you know, childhood, in the dance everything. I'm like, bro,

918
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 3: like this, yeah, I'm like, yo, this this is crazy

919
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 3: just seeing different people and just I don't think anybody

920
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 3: he would have thought. I don't think my mom, dad,

921
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 3: anybody would have thought that I'd be fighting. You know

922
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 3: at the Cowboys stayed on nothing but a stadium. All

923
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 3: these fans come to, you know, come to see me

924
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 3: and somebody else fight each other.

925
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 2: Bro, we don't really do that in the States like that.

926
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 2: That's more Overseas. You know, they used to have it.

927
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: It's hard to fill an arena in the United States.

928
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: But you the stadium, Bro's powerful. And I think you

929
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: sold about four hundred thousand, roughly four hundred thousand pay

930
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 1: per views, and those are great numbers right at that time.

931
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: Million You gotta have a right dance partner, audiers, everything,

932
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: a lot of things got to be right for you

933
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:27,720
Speaker 1: to sell a million. But so after you did that,

934
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:31,240
Speaker 1: that had to put you in a different position negotiating wise.

935
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: So behind the scenes with Island stuff, after you pulled

936
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 1: that off, like what type of position were you in

937
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: from a business standpoint to call your shot for the

938
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: next one?

939
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 3: I mean you just getting you know, six stars treatment,

940
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 3: like yeah, like basically like anything you wanted or anything

941
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 3: you asked for. You know what I'm saying, They're gonna

942
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 3: try to make it work. It don't matter, if it

943
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 3: don't matter, if it's not possible, They're gonna try to

944
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 3: caddy to you in a way to it to make

945
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 3: it positive. So you know, I was happy with you

946
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 3: know what I was getting what they was offering me.

947
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 3: And you know, if I ask for anything, you know,

948
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 3: you know it was at my disposal. You know what

949
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 3: I'm saying, regard if it made sense or not, Like, yeah,

950
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 3: they was trying to make it happen. Because a lot

951
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 3: of people don't know that I only signed only signed

952
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 3: one contract we all like even today, I'm a free

953
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 3: I've been a free agentshake. Yeah, just handshakes and just

954
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:33,760
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. I know I always treated

955
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 3: me right, so you know, if somebody stick with it,

956
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 3: but even to this day, like you know, it's just

957
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 3: been a handshake, always been an agreement. That's just how

958
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 3: we always been. And you know he gave me shoe

959
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 3: anything I need. I don't ask some doesn't too crazy,

960
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 3: but you know I just asked what I think is right.

961
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, So what at this point, like what type of

962
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:02,240
Speaker 1: businessman is aerospence? Like you really starting to catch on

963
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 1: on how it works and what to ask for or

964
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 1: you kind of just letting.

965
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 2: I'll still take the lead.

966
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 4: Well now, I after the Mikey Guarcia thing, after the.

967
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 3: Mikey Guarcia thing, I was still letting letting Now I

968
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 3: kind of take the lead. Yeah yeah, I was still

969
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 3: letting him take the lead right there. But as it

970
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 3: as it as it started going a little bit more,

971
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 3: I started like, man, I got more. I got a

972
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 3: little bit more power, Like right, you know what I'm saying,

973
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 3: I got a little bit more power. Let me let

974
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 3: me ask for this, let me do this, let me

975
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 3: do that. And I was the type of person he

976
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 3: always you know what I'm saying. He always came correct.

977
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 3: You know, it was never anything disrespectful, anything like he

978
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 3: was trying to cut He was trying to cut me,

979
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,720
Speaker 3: undercut me. No money missing nothing, yeah, no money missing

980
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 3: anything like that. Like he always came, always came correct,

981
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 3: you know, was always solid, man.

982
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 1: I you know at this point, like I mean, you

983
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 1: had the world in your hands at this point, you know,

984
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: like it's it's you don't know how how high that

985
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: star is gonna go, how bright that star is gonna be.

986
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: And I'm looking from the outside end, and it don't

987
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: look bad.

988
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,959
Speaker 2: What I'm saying. But you see, yeah Brody no he

989
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:20,399
Speaker 2: he him.

990
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

991
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: You could just tell the way you move in You

992
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,439
Speaker 1: see the respect you get when you're in certain crowd,

993
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: some other fighters.

994
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 2: And just people in general.

995
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: Had you started party, I don't know if you was

996
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: a big party, but was you starting to drink a

997
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 1: little bit at that time, like when you know, was

998
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: you because you know, you start to kind of feel

999
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 1: invincible and I'm not sure if that's how you felt

1000
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: at around that time, like right before the Sean Porter fight.

1001
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 3: I mean I was already you know what I'm saying,

1002
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 3: kind of drinking. I mean, I'm kind of an introverted person.

1003
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 4: Like drinking.

1004
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 3: It helped. It helped because yeah, maybe are you talking.

1005
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 4: Talking like I want?

1006
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 3: The people I already don't, Like everybody was in the

1007
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 3: house talking all that. I went for a walk, you know,

1008
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 3: right before this interview. I walked twice, just because like,

1009
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 3: I'm not one of them guys.

1010
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 2: It's just small talk.

1011
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just want to sit around just talk, chopping

1012
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 3: up and artist and that. Like I'd rather just you know,

1013
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 3: do what I do. Like you ask the guys, they'd

1014
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 3: be out in the room watching a movie or something

1015
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 3: right here, and I'd be either in my room while

1016
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 3: I be in the dining room reading a book. Like

1017
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 3: it's just never been one of those guys. And dry

1018
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 3: can't help because it made me, you know, more comfortable

1019
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 3: being in being in places and just being more open

1020
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 3: and being more being more outgoing. You know, it just

1021
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,760
Speaker 3: got to a point to where you know, I wouldn't

1022
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 3: really couldn't. I wouldn't really controlling it like that, And

1023
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 3: I mean I felt like it wasn't it wasn't a

1024
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 3: crazy problem, but it was more like doing it at

1025
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 3: the wrong time, doing that after wrong times. You shouldn't

1026
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 3: be doing that, No, damn boxing then you know what

1027
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like you shouldn't you know, be doing it

1028
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 3: why you're driving or when you know you got to drive.

1029
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 3: It's just certain things you should you should have protected

1030
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 3: because and I still think about it to today. I'm like, bro,

1031
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 3: like all these memories, like these new memories I have

1032
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 3: with my kids and this and that that all could

1033
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 3: have been gone, you know what I'm saying. So I

1034
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 3: still get emotional about it. Yeah, just thinking about it

1035
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 3: coming like bro, like my kids, my kids, you know,

1036
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 3: didn't ask to be here, none of that, And you know,

1037
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 3: all this would have been cut short because I didn't

1038
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 3: have stuff set up like I got now, Like I

1039
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 3: got trusts and I got children school trusts and things

1040
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 3: like that for them. Like I didn't have none of

1041
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,959
Speaker 3: that set up. So it's just been a whole war

1042
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 3: on you know what, whoever you get, you know what

1043
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 3: I'm saying. So you know, I feel like, you know,

1044
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 3: things happening definitely happen for a reason, and I feel

1045
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 3: like I would I wouldn't take anything back because it

1046
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 3: made me the man I am today. You know, it

1047
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 3: made me way closely to my family. Uh you know,

1048
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 3: made me you know, get a lot of people out

1049
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 3: of my circle and just you know, lock into what's

1050
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 3: really important and that you know, and that family, and

1051
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 3: that's been around people who really love me for me

1052
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 3: and don't care about boxing and don't care about you know,

1053
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 3: if I ever put on gloves again, you know, I

1054
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 3: tell hom I'm going to return. They ask me, Am,

1055
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 3: I sure, like, is that what you want to do?

1056
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. My lady hate training cans.

1057
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 3: I hate when I when I'm about to fighting out this.

1058
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 3: And then my mom too, my mom talking about she's

1059
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 3: gonna drive down here. She's gonna drive that just to

1060
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 3: see what's going on, you know what, check it out,

1061
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 3: just see how you doing in the camp and artist

1062
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 3: and that.

1063
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 2: You know.

1064
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 3: So you know, they hate that kind of stuff, and

1065
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 3: that's the time people want around you. They're not wish

1066
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 3: you as you could you boss. They know EJ. They're

1067
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 3: with J. They're not with e El Spent Junior. The Truth,

1068
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 3: big Fish and all that type stuff. They can care

1069
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 3: less about any of that, you know, they just want

1070
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 3: your well being to be good man.

1071
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 2: Bro. God got his hand on you. Bro.

1072
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for sure, he.

1073
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 2: Got his hand on you.

1074
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 1: Sometimes he got allowed stuff to happen to get our attention,

1075
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: but brother, it's clear he got his hand on you.

1076
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 3: Man. Oh yeah for sure, because I mean I'm a

1077
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 3: super hard hitted and I told my lady, I'm like, Bro,

1078
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, I'm hard headed. But it's like

1079
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 3: it's a double edged sword because my hard headedness got

1080
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 3: me to where I am now. But then again, my

1081
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 3: heart hittedness, you know what I'm saying, got me and

1082
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 3: stuff I shouldn't been here, but I was just hard hitted.

1083
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 3: So it's like a double head swore. Once you get older,

1084
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 3: you learn to control it. But you know, I just

1085
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,439
Speaker 3: I had to learn, and yeah, I learned the hard way.

1086
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 3: But you know, like you said, God had his hand

1087
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 3: on me because it's a lot of situation and things

1088
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 3: like I feel like I should be here by it,

1089
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 3: I shouldn't have been here if you oh, by you

1090
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 3: know the status of you know, and they're having the

1091
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 3: people and stuff that happened, and I'm still here even

1092
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 3: talk about it.

1093
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 2: You know. So brother, you fought, man, you had fought

1094
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 2: multiple fights since that.

1095
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 4: Man, we need to tell me.

1096
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 2: Being alive is one thing. But you fought, bro, and

1097
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 2: you know that's that. Man. If it's ever like a.

1098
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 1: Papa, call them memorials, like things you remember, like, man,

1099
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: I remember God was here. I remember when he showed

1100
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: up from me here. Man, anytime you gotta struggle having

1101
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:43,280
Speaker 1: a day, were you struggling with your faith?

1102
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 2: They're trying to figure this out. Brother, That's all the

1103
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 2: reminder you need right there.

1104
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 3: Bro.

1105
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 1: And I know that ain't the only thing you've been

1106
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: I know you've been through a lot of other things too.

1107
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 1: But man, just but we're gonna talk a little bit

1108
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: more about that just a few minutes. But you know,

1109
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: leading up to this, to the Sean Porter fight, Bro,

1110
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: was it any issues with Dereck James at that time?

1111
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:01,280
Speaker 1: Have any friction?

1112
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 3: I mean we never really just we never really just

1113
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 3: had had friction. Like you know, I see the relationship

1114
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 3: like like you like you you got with your coach,

1115
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 3: like how you know it's you know what I'm saying.

1116
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 3: You know you had to dad growing up, but it

1117
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:22,280
Speaker 3: was their father some relationship like you know what I'm saying.

1118
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,919
Speaker 3: He sparked wisdom and you you know, he's talking to you,

1119
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 3: you know, he telling you this, he telling you that.

1120
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 3: You know, even if you're not listening, you know, he's

1121
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 3: still he's still putting it in there, you know, because

1122
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 3: you know that you'll go back to that eventually. Like

1123
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 3: you know it it was never really none of that,

1124
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 3: you know, it wasn't It wasn't really that. He wasn't

1125
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 3: really that steward to where you know, he was telling

1126
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 3: me different things and you know, trying to help me

1127
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 3: out with different things. And it probably could have been

1128
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 3: me too, because I'm a I'm a close up person,

1129
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 3: Like I'm not a guy that just go around tell

1130
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 3: my business. It would just be you know, upfront with

1131
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 3: people in this and now I'm kind of like I

1132
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 3: go to the gym, we get our workout, and I'm gone,

1133
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 3: like I'm out to next time type thing. Well, if

1134
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 3: I'm not fighting then talking to you like like like that.

1135
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 3: So nah, it wouldn't really, it wouldn't. It wouldn't any friction.

1136
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 3: It should when it went about like how it usual

1137
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 3: it goes.

1138
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: That's what with me because on the outside looking in,

1139
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 1: y'all look like me and Verge, y'all look super close,

1140
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 1: y'all like I would hear the way he talked about you,

1141
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: and then I would hear the way you talked about him.

1142
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 1: It just seemed like it was bigger than boxing would.

1143
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: It seemed like, I.

1144
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,399
Speaker 3: Mean, it's a lot of stuff, seemed like.

1145
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 2: When I said frition, I'm like, I'm like, nah, man, Nah,

1146
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 2: But you just don't know.

1147
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 3: You just don't know. You just don't know, Bro. You know,

1148
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 3: stuff stuff having bro And yeah, you know you can't.

1149
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 3: I mean, you of course you can question it, but

1150
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 3: you know, still happening. You just gotta roll with it.

1151
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 3: Like I take everything anything that happened to me, Bro,

1152
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 3: I take it, you know, I take it and try

1153
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 3: to learn from it, and you know and be like, oh,

1154
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 3: this was meant to happen, for this to happen, like

1155
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 3: that was meant to happen to get me here, and

1156
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 3: for hollists to be happening.

1157
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 2: Bro.

1158
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 3: So and I felt like even with the stuff that

1159
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 3: happened with dairy Man made me really just you know,

1160
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 3: sit back even more and just you know, see people

1161
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 3: for who they are and just you know, think about

1162
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,320
Speaker 3: this person Carrias and this and that and just we

1163
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 3: eat other people out and just yea and realize and

1164
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,399
Speaker 3: get deeper with my family, just realize, you know, they

1165
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 3: really for me, Like my kids, my woman, my mom

1166
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 3: and dad, my sisters, they really for me. So I'm

1167
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 3: just gonna I'm a hole tighter to them. We're really

1168
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 3: kicking it. Like we going on trips. We're going trips.

1169
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 3: I'm still like I'm going through the whole lawsuit all that.

1170
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 3: Like I'm still I'm going on trips, taking my family

1171
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:10,959
Speaker 3: to you know, Saint Martine. We're going to a rug

1172
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 3: while there, taking everybody, says my dad, seven eight people.

1173
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 3: Just you know what I'm saying, Just having fun to

1174
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 3: enjoy on myself. And you know, I think the a

1175
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 3: you know, I never had to use my principal, you know,

1176
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 3: I never I never used you know, the principle that

1177
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 3: I had, you know, just stuff making money out the

1178
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 3: interest so to go. That's the blessing there. I never

1179
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 3: touched the principal. I'm just living off the interests, you know,

1180
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 3: and enjoying life while doing it. You know, that's the

1181
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 3: biggest blessing ever. Like I ain't got to worry about

1182
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 3: you know ever. Of course, you know, things happen, but

1183
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 3: for right now, like I'm not using my principal for anything.

1184
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 2: So in other words, he's saying he ain't touching the

1185
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 2: actual money he made this everything on top of that,

1186
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 2: he ain't touch that that's making other money. That's what

1187
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 2: he's saying to Yah.

1188
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 4: For sure, I ain't. I ain't touching crawl for money.

1189
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 3: Uh who else? Yeah, I ain't touched the craw for

1190
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 3: money or probably the food guts money. For sure, you ain't.

1191
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 2: You ain't even have to touch it.

1192
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 3: I ain't to touch you, bro, And I'm I'm a

1193
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 3: food guy, bro, Like I don't. I don't got five

1194
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 3: six cars, like I got a tr rips and I

1195
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 3: still drive that car that is out there, that's my

1196
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 3: car from the house two sixteen Tahoe. Like, you know

1197
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, that's just type of stuff I drive.

1198
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 3: My girl she gotta she gotta escalate.

1199
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 1: But when that happened, because I ain't saying, you have

1200
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: some heavy stuff on your neck and on your wrist. Man.

1201
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 3: Look, I mean the chain, bro, that change was that

1202
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 3: changed probably like ten years old it is, but you

1203
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 3: bought it though. Yeah, body, it's iconic. But that was

1204
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 3: when I was, you know, saying I was feeling when

1205
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 3: I was feeling myself. I popped myself that chain then,

1206
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 3: and you know what I'm saying, Yeah, I had watches,

1207
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 3: like I still got a paddock, but I had the

1208
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 3: bus down. Paddick the agent influenced me to get influenced

1209
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 3: me to get there for ab Yeah, because he had

1210
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 3: got all them all. He was like, get it. I'm like, bro, no,

1211
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 3: I just bought it. That was hitting though then I

1212
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 3: had bought the ap Now I got a Yeah, I

1213
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 3: got a few watches for sure.

1214
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got We're just not in love with it.

1215
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not in love with it like I might.

1216
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna buy something, but I'm not gonna buy this, that,

1217
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 3: this and that. Like if I buy this, I'm not

1218
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 3: buying that then, Like if I buy this for my mama,

1219
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna buy that for me.

1220
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 4: Like I make everything county, you know what I'm saying.

1221
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 3: And I make I made it like, yeah, I get that,

1222
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 3: but I'm not gonna get this. And I just make

1223
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:51,479
Speaker 3: it count like that. I just make it make sense.

1224
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 3: But it just gotta make sense.

1225
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: And you thought Sean Porter in a great Fight Staple

1226
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 1: Center twenty nineteen, Back and Forth Fight.

1227
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 2: You know, Sean came like he came, You came like

1228
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 2: you can.

1229
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 1: I think that that fight did It was like sixteen

1230
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 1: thousand in the arena. You're not from California, so you

1231
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: continue to make statements that I'm a big draw everywhere

1232
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 1: I go. So that was no longer a question. And

1233
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: twelve days later a minute news came out about the accident.

1234
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 1: I think I was in Colorado Springs getting ready to

1235
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 1: interview somebody, and I started seeing this stuff pop up, Man,

1236
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 1: that you was in your ferrari like three.

1237
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 2: In the morning, Bro, And.

1238
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: I don't even know how TM's in and be getting

1239
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 1: that footage man, like you got the footage from that

1240
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: one spot that had a camera going. Brother, So we

1241
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 1: started seeing that. I don't even know how I feel, Bro,

1242
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 1: I don't even know how.

1243
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 2: I just start praying. I just wanted you. It wasn't

1244
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 2: about no boxing or nothing. I just wanted you to live, bro,

1245
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 2: and have your quality of life.

1246
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 1: What do you remember about that night, man, going to

1247
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 1: that party, anything before the accident, I don't know what

1248
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 1: do you.

1249
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 3: I don't remember nothing. I don't remember me anything, even

1250
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 3: like getting out getting out of the hospital and they

1251
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 3: telling me, you know, I was walking up the steps

1252
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 3: and I don't remember nothing. Probably a month after me

1253
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 3: getting at.

1254
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 2: The hospital, that's when I start coming back memory.

1255
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's when my memory really started coming back.

1256
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 2: But so do you remember posting no broken bone?

1257
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 3: It's talking about my savage. You said you said no

1258
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 3: broken bones? Yeah, I said no broken bro Savage, like

1259
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 3: the take your phone of subconscious like I was just

1260
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 3: I guess I was still like because even like when

1261
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 3: I came in, I said I was talking to him,

1262
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 3: like everybody said I was talking to him and all

1263
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 3: this and that, but that wouldn't be talking like that

1264
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 3: was just I don't know my subconscious or that was

1265
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 3: me talking, but that wasn't me. That wasn't me talking, bro,

1266
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 3: that was that was something that was somebody else. I mean,

1267
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 3: it was me, but that wasn't actually me. Like, I

1268
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 3: don't remember none of that, Like my girls telling me

1269
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 3: stuff like how was on Twitter saying different things and

1270
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 3: you know the way I was talking and at it,

1271
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 3: I was like, bro, I don't remember.

1272
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 2: Now. I heard the news, seen the footage and then

1273
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,439
Speaker 2: went to Instagram this boy talking about no broken bone

1274
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 2: coming SAP and I'm like, he.

1275
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 3: Said, well, first of all, that's good he's back, he alive.

1276
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. It look like he's gonna

1277
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 2: make it. But I'm like, boy, he cold for that.

1278
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's just my mentality, bro, Like that's how it was.

1279
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 3: I was just I mean, that's how I still am.

1280
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 3: Like that's why I'm going to going to Australia. Like

1281
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 3: I'm I'm not tripping, bro. Life it's about experiences. Bro,

1282
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 3: I had a lot of experiences, and uh, I feel

1283
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 3: like it's just it'll be a dope experience. Just go

1284
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 3: over there and and conquer somebody in their hometown. Yeah.

1285
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you get out the hospital, he said, you

1286
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 1: don't remember that? When when did stuff like when you

1287
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 1: got back home and start getting settled, Like when did

1288
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 1: your mind start coming back when you like start processing, Like, dang,

1289
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 1: I've been in an accident.

1290
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 2: And did you watch the footage.

1291
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,959
Speaker 3: I didn't watch the footage till probably like a year later.

1292
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't watch.

1293
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 3: Footage probably a year later. But Bro, I don't know

1294
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 3: it never like I knew I got into an accident,

1295
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 3: but I never I never really like really reflected on it,

1296
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 3: like I was still I was still just going bro. Well,

1297
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 3: I still was just going Bro, I was. I was

1298
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 3: in the dark spot because Bro, I started growing my

1299
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 3: her out like I looked like Code Black, Like I

1300
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 3: was growing my her out like I had a whole

1301
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 3: full beard and everything like I was just I was

1302
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 3: just going.

1303
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 2: Bro.

1304
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 1: Did you remember talking to Derek at any point out

1305
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 1: after the hospital, like them, you know, getting feedback from them,

1306
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 1: your dad, your.

1307
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 3: Mom, or I remember talking talking to our I Actually

1308
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 3: I came to the gym probably like two months later

1309
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 3: and try to hit the bag by like stuff was

1310
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 3: was hurting real bad. So I stopped.

1311
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 4: I stopped going to.

1312
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 3: The gym, and she was just really just chilled out,

1313
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 3: still going to clubs and stuff. Still, yeah for sure

1314
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:14,959
Speaker 3: for real?

1315
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh after the accident. Yeah, was you driving yourself?

1316
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 3: Oh?

1317
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 2: You hard here for sure? Man? You hard here for sure?

1318
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 3: I want to drive, I wanted Was I driving myself

1319
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 3: club and you were still drinking? I wouldn't. I wouldn't

1320
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 3: drive myself a club.

1321
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 2: You're still drinking? Yeah, sure, you're hard here for sure?

1322
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1323
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, brother, you just walked through a miracle.

1324
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you went right out and see it like

1325
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 3: that though, how was you seeing it? But I wasn't

1326
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 3: thinking like that, like it was just like you know,

1327
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 3: I got through it. You know what I'm saying, I'm cool,

1328
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 3: I'm good, like dang, yeah, it is like that's just

1329
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 3: my That just was my whole mentality being my mentality,

1330
01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 3: Like it's just like it's cool, like anything that happened,

1331
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 3: Like I never my mama always says, she was like,

1332
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 3: you don't take nothing serious because like something could happen something.

1333
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 3: I just be like alight or yeah. I'm just like

1334
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 3: like you know, you don't take nothing to see it.

1335
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 3: I'm like, well I'm supposed to do. Like so that's

1336
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 3: just my whole's That was just my whole entireity. You know.

1337
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 4: I was just like, dang, I.

1338
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 1: Didn't know that it is what it is, bro, Like

1339
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 1: I thought you was in the house the whole time.

1340
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 3: Nah, I was in the house sometimes, but sometimes you know,

1341
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 3: I was just I was still brought. I don't know.

1342
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 3: I was kind of stuck. I was stuck. It was

1343
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 3: just something that was just stuck and it's just it

1344
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 3: was just I don't know. I had some on my back,

1345
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 3: you know, I had some on my back that I

1346
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 3: couldn't get off. I wouldn't get off my back. It

1347
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 3: was robbed me and eventually I got off my back,

1348
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 3: but at that time it was just it was just stuck.

1349
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 3: It was just stuck on me, just just going then.

1350
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 3: But there's just so many things that was I was

1351
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 3: getting warning at the warning, at the warning.

1352
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I know guy Ran, I

1353
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 4: don't know.

1354
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 3: I guess he didn't un out of patience with me

1355
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:14,919
Speaker 3: because he kept like this a determined, a little big

1356
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 3: he kept he kept putting stop signs, but I was running.

1357
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 4: I was running the stop signs.

1358
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 3: I was running them. But eventually I feel like, you know,

1359
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:28,920
Speaker 3: I got it. I for sure got it now. But

1360
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 3: you know I was just hardhited bro, just going, just going,

1361
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,920
Speaker 3: just going through the south signs, Bro, and not you know,

1362
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 3: ignoring the signs. Bro.

1363
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 1: So when you pop back up, Bro, you pop back

1364
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 1: out after what you just went through, what people saying

1365
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 1: to you, it's like somebody coming back from dead.

1366
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 2: Bro, Like hold on, bro, that's are yeah.

1367
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 3: I mean, nobody really saying nothing like they didn't now,

1368
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 3: not to me. They probably said something to other people,

1369
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 3: but nobody really saying anything to me. Has said my

1370
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:05,960
Speaker 3: family stuff. But other than like people that's from the outside,

1371
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 3: nobody really said nothing to me, like, man, I remember,

1372
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 3: cause I had three All this was gone, like I

1373
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 3: had parties in my mouth, so every day I had

1374
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 3: to glue them back in and push them back in.

1375
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 3: And it was just Bro, I was just I really

1376
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 3: was just mentally Bro, I was just out of it,

1377
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 3: like I didn't know if I was gonna live a

1378
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 3: dow or really just just really cur I don't I know,

1379
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 3: I don't think I was depressed. I don't think I

1380
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 3: was depressed at all. It was just Bro. I was

1381
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 3: just going going through the motions, Bro, just just going through.

1382
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 3: And then that's when I was just you know what

1383
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 3: I'm saying, getting tagged, bro. And I feel like all

1384
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 3: my tattoos, like you know what I'm saying, most of

1385
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 3: they mean something, especially the one I got like like

1386
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 3: right here, like some man's man right in here. He's

1387
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 3: trying to keep it ahead of the ball order. Why

1388
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 3: he got clothes on, you know how it is, keep

1389
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 3: you hit the ball water while he got clothes on.

1390
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 3: But if he drowning, he go down his sharks and

1391
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 3: stuff down there. You know what I'm saying, that's what

1392
01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 3: demons and all that. And then you know, I got

1393
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 3: my kids, my mom, my, dad, everybody, my girl and

1394
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 3: everything on my back and stuff and just you know,

1395
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 3: keeping the strength. But you know, I can't credit it

1396
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 3: to me. You know, it was just well it was

1397
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 3: really just just God. And you know I can't I

1398
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 3: can't get myself any credit for it. I don't know.

1399
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 3: I don't know why I'm still here because you know

1400
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, I've been very fortunate. You know what

1401
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 3: I'm saying. I gonna say. Look, I've been very fortunate

1402
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:46,920
Speaker 3: to still be here and still be even functional, be functional,

1403
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 3: better even talk to you, and not only this, but

1404
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 3: even still boxing like a lot of dudes not not

1405
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 3: doing that, wouldn't do that, like it'll be up with

1406
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 3: and just still be here to be able to be

1407
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 3: you know, still talking, still better run and play with

1408
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 3: my kids and wake up no aches and pains and

1409
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 3: bruises anything like that. I mean, bro, He's really a

1410
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 3: blessing man.

1411
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 2: Did you did you have a reconnection with God during

1412
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:16,440
Speaker 2: that time when he was healing or maybe did that

1413
01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 2: come later?

1414
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:27,200
Speaker 3: Mmmm? Yeah, yeah, yeah I did, Yeah, yeah I did.

1415
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 3: Probably that came later, though it came a little later on.

1416
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 3: I was still kind of I was still kind of

1417
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:36,480
Speaker 3: like it's ignorant, you know what I'm saying. They came

1418
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 3: a little later on that probably came my connection with God.

1419
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 3: Probably that probably came after that. That can't after the

1420
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 3: Crows the fight. Yeah, they came probably after crawl fight

1421
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 3: when I really just you know, sat sat down in it.

1422
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 4: And then I really sat down because I lost.

1423
01:07:55,480 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 3: That and then you know that there came with that boom,

1424
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. I was just like I

1425
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 3: was super down. I was super down. Then I feel

1426
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:12,440
Speaker 3: like then I just I stopped drinking and just you know,

1427
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 3: really just sat in it and then just stay by myself,

1428
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:18,599
Speaker 3: just ent a ranch by myself and just stay with

1429
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 3: my family and really just you know, really just broke

1430
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:24,120
Speaker 3: it down in my head because I want them guys

1431
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 3: like like used asking all the time, like what's wrong,

1432
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:29,720
Speaker 3: because I'll just be sitting on the couch and I'm

1433
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:31,680
Speaker 3: just sitting there just like while I was in the

1434
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 3: theater room. I've been in the theater room two or

1435
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:39,439
Speaker 3: three hours, eating pistashia so and just thinking, just looking

1436
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 3: at the sky, just thinking, just you know, just processing

1437
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:45,680
Speaker 3: everything in my head, not really just saying much and

1438
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:48,400
Speaker 3: just and I think that's when I really just got

1439
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 3: a got a real connection with God and you know,

1440
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 3: and just just hearing and just that you know that

1441
01:08:56,240 --> 01:09:00,080
Speaker 3: that I'm blowing it. You know that I'm blowing And

1442
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:02,559
Speaker 3: you know, if I'm gonna come back to if I'm

1443
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:05,679
Speaker 3: going to come back to boxing, you know, I gotta

1444
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 3: be right.

1445
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 4: I gotta be right.

1446
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 3: I gotta be right with myself and I just gotta

1447
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 3: be one hundred And you know if I say, if

1448
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 3: I say I'm a family man, and you know, and

1449
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 3: I'm living for my kids and I'm living for my family,

1450
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 3: I gotta really do that. I can't just say I'm

1451
01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 3: doing something but then in the dark doing something else.

1452
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:29,760
Speaker 3: Like I gotta be one hundred percent of all in.

1453
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 3: And I was like, I'm not gonna either, I'm not

1454
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 3: gonna come back to boxing toil tell and tell them

1455
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:38,840
Speaker 3: one hundred percent. You know what I'm saying, All in

1456
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 3: with the things I say, I want to be right

1457
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:44,680
Speaker 3: with and out, and I want to be right with

1458
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 3: my family and just you know, want to be there

1459
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 3: and want to be present. And that's the first time

1460
01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 3: I feel like, that's the first time really present with

1461
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 3: my family and with my kids. You know, after the fight,

1462
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 3: because I wasn't going to the gym, and I really

1463
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 3: had to find my myself because I I wasn't boxing,

1464
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 3: so I had to find things I was good at.

1465
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 3: You know, I don't have a job. So you got

1466
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 3: the whole day. You got the whole day to yourself,

1467
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 3: really really getting your thoughts and see what you like

1468
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 3: and just find out different things. I start, you know,

1469
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:21,920
Speaker 3: playing soccer and you know, going on walks with my

1470
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 3: mom and just I just started reading books. I just

1471
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 3: started reading books and things. So just doing different things

1472
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 3: that I never done, just to keep my mind, you know, active,

1473
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:40,760
Speaker 3: and just because you know, growing up, it was just

1474
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:43,559
Speaker 3: it was just after Boxton, you was doing. When you

1475
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:46,120
Speaker 3: go to the gym, you're done for today, when you

1476
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 3: get good for today. And that's what it always been like.

1477
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:55,120
Speaker 3: I was never good at anything else but boxing, Like

1478
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 3: I was good at like basketball, box, I mean football

1479
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:01,680
Speaker 3: and things like that. But I never had any other

1480
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 3: hobbies because boxing had always been that thing for me.

1481
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 3: And after boxing, it was nothing else. I didn't care

1482
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:11,559
Speaker 3: about nothing else. It was go to see wakec up

1483
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 3: the next day and box some more. Like So, now

1484
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 3: I wasn't boxing, so I had to sit in and

1485
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 3: you know, see the things I really like, you know,

1486
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:23,719
Speaker 3: and I found that I liked traveling. I like seeing

1487
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 3: the world out they seeing different cultures and being around

1488
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:31,200
Speaker 3: my kids. I enjoy being a soccer dad. Like, you know,

1489
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:31,679
Speaker 3: it's good.

1490
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 2: You like being around your kids. People don't like being

1491
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 2: around here.

1492
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 3: That's crazy me.

1493
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:36,639
Speaker 2: They don't like being around the kids.

1494
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:39,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's crazy man. And I'm always around my kids,

1495
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 3: Like Mike, I'm in Houston now, my kids, Daddy, when

1496
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:47,080
Speaker 3: you're coming home with Daddy, where are you like? Because

1497
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:49,639
Speaker 3: they're not used to not seeing me, like they always

1498
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:52,800
Speaker 3: see me where they're at any event, I'm there, like

1499
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:55,440
Speaker 3: it don't matter what it is. Like last week out

1500
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:58,439
Speaker 3: I went. I went down to Dallas because my daughter's

1501
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 3: graduating from the third and fourth grade. You know, we

1502
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 3: popped up on them and things. Or my son had game.

1503
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:06,800
Speaker 3: I popped up. If I wasn't doing an interview, I

1504
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:09,799
Speaker 3: would draw the Dallas to see my kids. Her soccer

1505
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 3: game chat Syde game today she got two games today.

1506
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:14,920
Speaker 3: How to drove down to watch both games? You know,

1507
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 3: He's just certain things like that being present, you know,

1508
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 3: I feel like that's more impactful than money. Or anything,

1509
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 3: because at the end of the day, they just want

1510
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 3: you there. And a lot of dudes they're not used

1511
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 3: to be around their kids because they're always gone, they're

1512
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 3: always doing something. But with me, I take my kids

1513
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:35,760
Speaker 3: everywhere I travel and camp too. Always in camp. Yeah,

1514
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 3: my kids always in camp. Like I get Airbnb in

1515
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 3: Dallas and a week later, my whole family at the

1516
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:51,679
Speaker 3: Airbnb spending the night everything. So yeah, my family always

1517
01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:55,559
Speaker 3: with me. My kids, man, they they joy, they'll enjoyed

1518
01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 3: my life, and they I feel like they're the reason why,

1519
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:02,719
Speaker 3: you know, I got really right, just my my family,

1520
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 3: That's the reason why I got really locked in and

1521
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:09,880
Speaker 3: got really rioting, just got really right with everything and

1522
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:14,919
Speaker 3: made sure that you know, I leave you know, stones

1523
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 3: on turn and just make sure I'm there mentally, physically, emotionally.

1524
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 3: And I talked to him too, and just you know,

1525
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:22,840
Speaker 3: just love them.

1526
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I appreciate the message. Bro's it's it's it's

1527
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:29,559
Speaker 2: a it's a deep message and it's needed.

1528
01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:30,400
Speaker 3: You know.

1529
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 1: Like this boxing stuff aside wins lost his belts. All

1530
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:36,120
Speaker 1: that stuff is cool making money, but like you showing

1531
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:39,600
Speaker 1: the world and these other fighters who are struggling a

1532
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 1: lot of them, not all of them, but it's you know,

1533
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 1: and you know a lot of them you're talking about

1534
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 1: for them to see you go through the fire and

1535
01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 1: then they hearing how you worked your way through. Man,

1536
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 1: I had to be real with myself and I had

1537
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 1: to reconnect with God.

1538
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 2: Man.

1539
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:53,720
Speaker 1: Man, I was still drinking at first, but then I

1540
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:55,439
Speaker 1: realized that that ain't gonna cut it. I gotta get

1541
01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:57,639
Speaker 1: the best version of myself. All that kind of stuff,

1542
01:13:57,680 --> 01:13:59,599
Speaker 1: Man is like that ain't.

1543
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 2: That ain't well, that's that's life stuff.

1544
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:04,200
Speaker 1: You feel me, So, I mean, I just appreciate it, bro,

1545
01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 1: because all the ice and the and the money and

1546
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:10,439
Speaker 1: the belts, that stuff is cool. But nobody really talks

1547
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:12,720
Speaker 1: about life after this game. Nobody talks about when the

1548
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 1: lights turn off, when the fans not there, we don't

1549
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 1: talk about this.

1550
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:19,080
Speaker 2: It get dark, It get real and getid and lonely.

1551
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:23,439
Speaker 3: Man. I didn't watch boxing. I didn't watch boxing as

1552
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 3: a cross fight. I didn't watch But I just start

1553
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 3: watching boxing again when I knew I was gonna come back.

1554
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 3: I didn't watch boxing because I was just seeing dudes

1555
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:34,240
Speaker 3: like I knew I could be, and man, like just

1556
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 3: seeing different things. I'm like, Bro, like I didn't even

1557
01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:40,479
Speaker 3: watch boxing. I didn't know the fights. I didn't do nothing.

1558
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:42,680
Speaker 3: I ain't do nothing boxing, Like I was going to

1559
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:45,280
Speaker 3: the gym and stuff like that. But I wasn't watching

1560
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:48,320
Speaker 3: Boston like that, cause it's just like and I could

1561
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:50,719
Speaker 3: see why the motive fighters get you know what I'm saying,

1562
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:53,320
Speaker 3: They kind of get mad cause they because with them,

1563
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 3: they you know, they see the money and how they

1564
01:14:55,040 --> 01:15:00,320
Speaker 3: they getting now say kind of you know, mad at

1565
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:03,599
Speaker 3: it because like, man, these dudes don't fight nowhere near

1566
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:04,439
Speaker 3: how we used to fight.

1567
01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 4: They getting paid all this money.

1568
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 3: But I just didn't watch it just because you know,

1569
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:13,760
Speaker 3: I knew I still had something left, and you know,

1570
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 3: I couldn't show it because you know, I was trying

1571
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 3: to get right, you know, mentally, and you're just trying

1572
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 3: to and I had to sit in my stuff for

1573
01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:23,640
Speaker 3: my kids and for my family. And a lot of

1574
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:27,720
Speaker 3: dudes don't want to do that because you know, it's

1575
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 3: you got to check your ego or your pride. You

1576
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 3: gotta all that comes with checking yourself. And a lot

1577
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 3: of dudes don't want to do that. They don't want

1578
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 3: to check the ego. And problem, I don't not real

1579
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 3: enough to do that either, Like you gotta be sidded

1580
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 3: with yourself. Like, man, I'm messing up because I knew

1581
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:47,240
Speaker 3: I was messing up a lot. When I wake up

1582
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 3: in the morning or i'm lit or whatever, I'd be like, Bro,

1583
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:55,840
Speaker 3: I'm messing up, like I'm telling myself. But I never

1584
01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:57,800
Speaker 3: really just sat in it. But when I got to

1585
01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:00,160
Speaker 3: moments just to sit in there and just do alle that.

1586
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 3: And you're going through different battles and you might relapse

1587
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:07,960
Speaker 3: again or something. But you know what I'm saying, you

1588
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 3: go back and you know, you figure it out of

1589
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:12,320
Speaker 3: your mind and you stop doing all that.

1590
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:12,599
Speaker 4: Bro.

1591
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 3: You feel when you come out, When you come out

1592
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:16,920
Speaker 3: of all there, Bro, you feel a lot better. Like

1593
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:19,519
Speaker 3: I feel way better being you know what I'm saying.

1594
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 3: A family man, You know what I'm saying, Being around

1595
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 3: with my kids, knowing I'm not doing anything wrong, you know,

1596
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 3: just you know, being soiled out across the board to

1597
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 3: my family. You know, it's it's it's a real good feeling, bro.

1598
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 3: Knowing that you know you somebody your son can look

1599
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:42,440
Speaker 3: up to you, somebody you want your you want your girls.

1600
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:45,320
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. You want they man, and

1601
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 3: had the same qualities that you have. Yes, you know

1602
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:50,840
Speaker 3: what I'm saying that that's a very that's a very

1603
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:53,720
Speaker 3: good feeling. And before I have had, but now I

1604
01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:57,080
Speaker 3: feel like, you know what I'm saying, I'm doing mostly

1605
01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 3: everything right.

1606
01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. That's why I respect you so much. Bro. I

1607
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:02,080
Speaker 2: respect your fight game.

1608
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:05,240
Speaker 1: I respect how you have always approached the game, your

1609
01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 1: work ethic, all that stuff. Man, But this kind of

1610
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:10,720
Speaker 1: stuff like what I've learned about you the last two

1611
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 1: years or whatever, it's been just talking to you.

1612
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 3: Man.

1613
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:15,600
Speaker 2: You say, Man, I'm just I donet got rid of

1614
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 2: this car.

1615
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 1: That car, man, I'm driving to whatever type of car now,

1616
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 1: just taking my girls to soccer practice.

1617
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:23,599
Speaker 2: Man, I'm enjoying it. That's that's that's that's powerful, bro,

1618
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:25,559
Speaker 2: that's powerful. Brow.

1619
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:28,559
Speaker 3: And it feels good, Like I go to all the

1620
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 3: soccer practices. I'm in there, I'm side games whatever, like,

1621
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 3: I'm right there like and they feel it feels good

1622
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 3: just seeing like just the different adjustments they make, or

1623
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:44,559
Speaker 3: just the different milestones your kids make, like doing like man,

1624
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:48,040
Speaker 3: she showeds some grid or Man, that's the proudest feeling.

1625
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:50,599
Speaker 3: And I say, I sink I seen Steve Harvey say

1626
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:53,519
Speaker 3: that he say, no one wants you to to see like

1627
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:58,719
Speaker 3: your father and like, man, I haven't. Man, just seeing

1628
01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:03,160
Speaker 3: my kids do something and successful, just doing something good

1629
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 3: about that's like, that's the greatest feeling. That's even better

1630
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 3: than winning the world title or you know, win the

1631
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:12,639
Speaker 3: Boston match, because the joy you get out of there,

1632
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:15,840
Speaker 3: you're like, man, like my kid did that? Like because

1633
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 3: you feel like your kid is you Like, I'm like

1634
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:22,040
Speaker 3: that's me. So that that joy your year, Bro, that's

1635
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 3: is priceless.

1636
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:23,599
Speaker 2: Man.

1637
01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:26,160
Speaker 1: Your first comeback fight was against Donny Garcia, which ain't

1638
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:28,920
Speaker 1: no soft touch at all. Yeah, what was your honest

1639
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:32,920
Speaker 1: assessment personally to yourself about how you felt? Did you

1640
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:35,479
Speaker 1: feel like you still had it? You was missing something

1641
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:36,720
Speaker 1: after the Donny Garcia fight.

1642
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 3: That Danny Garcia fight. Uh, I had COVID too, Dang,

1643
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 3: Yeah I had COVID, But yeah, I feel like I

1644
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 3: still had it. You know. I think it was if

1645
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:54,040
Speaker 3: you look at the waves and look at me the

1646
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:58,200
Speaker 3: fight day, I didn't rehydrate right because I I didn't

1647
01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:00,320
Speaker 3: have nutrition as I ain't have a diet here and

1648
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 3: I wouldn't like I still didn't know about putting water

1649
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:06,800
Speaker 3: and all that, like I do but I didn't know

1650
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:09,360
Speaker 3: about it like that putting salt in your water and

1651
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:12,639
Speaker 3: rehydrating properly and all that. Like I was still drinking water,

1652
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:17,200
Speaker 3: drinking peter like you know, waking up every morning, waking up,

1653
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:20,000
Speaker 3: waking up in the morning, just peeing a lot. You're

1654
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:22,719
Speaker 3: peeling out of water. You're still waking up one fifty four,

1655
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:26,600
Speaker 3: You're not as Yeah, I'm not absorbing at alls, not

1656
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:27,360
Speaker 3: staying in me.

1657
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:29,720
Speaker 4: So I was still smart doing that.

1658
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:32,360
Speaker 3: But yeah, I felt like I still had it and

1659
01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 3: I and my home mentality was, yeah, man, I'm not

1660
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:39,600
Speaker 3: taking a tune over somebody. If somebody gonna beat me,

1661
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:42,640
Speaker 3: he's just gonna have to beat me. I just feel like,

1662
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 3: why I take a tune of it. If I'm sharp

1663
01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:47,600
Speaker 3: and camping and I'm nice and in camp, then what

1664
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:50,800
Speaker 3: she changed by time? Like you know what I'm saying.

1665
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:52,920
Speaker 3: If anything, I should be better car good day off

1666
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:56,240
Speaker 3: the rest, so I should be more on point. So

1667
01:19:57,080 --> 01:19:59,640
Speaker 3: I just feel I felt good. Though I feel I

1668
01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:02,120
Speaker 3: feel okay. I feel like it was it was. It

1669
01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 3: was good. You know I could have been I could

1670
01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:08,160
Speaker 3: have been way better, but I feel like it was

1671
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:11,080
Speaker 3: it was cool for for that to beat my tune up.

1672
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 2: For sure. I was crazy coming off with what you

1673
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 2: just came off for Yeah, and then made twenty one

1674
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 2: you announced the Many pack Yard Fight. How the Many

1675
01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 2: pack Yard Fight come about?

1676
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:25,320
Speaker 3: I don't know. Sure, Adnam just hit me with it

1677
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:31,559
Speaker 3: like YO was like, I bet. And then all through

1678
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:37,200
Speaker 3: camp I was feeling I was feeling bad like I

1679
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:39,360
Speaker 3: was feeling. I was feeling super bad like I was.

1680
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:43,960
Speaker 3: I was messed up, and and I say, it's again.

1681
01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:49,400
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's life god, whatever it was

1682
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:51,639
Speaker 3: God in life. I feel like that's the same thing.

1683
01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:55,800
Speaker 3: But I got hit my eye doing sparn. You know

1684
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:58,840
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. I hit my id doing spawn and

1685
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:02,400
Speaker 3: I really he was still trying to I still was

1686
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:06,080
Speaker 3: sparring during that time, and all that went to veys

1687
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:09,720
Speaker 3: went to ves and you know, you had to do

1688
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:12,280
Speaker 3: the odd thing. Whatever I've seen clouds, I was seeing

1689
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:15,240
Speaker 3: it was cloudy. I was seeing cloud Yeah, it was

1690
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:19,880
Speaker 3: messed up. And I went to you to the eye doctor.

1691
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:22,599
Speaker 3: You know, you guys need the audi get chased out

1692
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:24,760
Speaker 3: of there. He was like, he was like, what are

1693
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:28,320
Speaker 3: you He was like, I think he's seen it, but

1694
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:30,800
Speaker 3: he didn't want to see he didn't. He wanted to

1695
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:34,639
Speaker 3: meditate him. So he was like, uh, do you see

1696
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:38,960
Speaker 3: like anything cloud? And I'm like nah, I'm like nah,

1697
01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:42,519
Speaker 3: like I would see nothing. He was like you sure?

1698
01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:43,840
Speaker 2: He said sure.

1699
01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:45,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, He's like you sure. I was like no, I

1700
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:49,120
Speaker 3: don't see nothing, like it looked clear, like I'm good.

1701
01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:50,919
Speaker 2: Trying to get that approval.

1702
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, trying to get and then he was like they started.

1703
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:58,479
Speaker 3: He was like man. He was like yo, man, yeah,

1704
01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:02,439
Speaker 3: I messed up. And I was like, what what you

1705
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 3: talking about? Man? Like my you know what I'm saying,

1706
01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:09,200
Speaker 3: My good. And then I really was talking because the

1707
01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:11,720
Speaker 3: other the dude who was with me, I don't know

1708
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 3: if he was with PUC or whatever, but he was

1709
01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:16,559
Speaker 3: with me. He was in there or whatever, and I

1710
01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:19,040
Speaker 3: was like I was trying to the doctor like man,

1711
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:21,759
Speaker 3: just just let me fight. I'll be good or whatever.

1712
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:22,240
Speaker 2: Read that.

1713
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like, I'm not tripping, like I signed

1714
01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:28,519
Speaker 3: whatever you want me to sign or whatever. It is like,

1715
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:32,000
Speaker 3: I don't like tripping. I'll be good. I make sure

1716
01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:35,599
Speaker 3: I told about make sure he hit me in my eye.

1717
01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:38,719
Speaker 3: I told about make sure you hit me in my eye.

1718
01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:42,720
Speaker 3: And he was like and he was like nah, man,

1719
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:45,680
Speaker 3: if you if you fight and you get hitting, you

1720
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:46,599
Speaker 3: out the right way.

1721
01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:49,599
Speaker 4: He was like, you could be blind your eye.

1722
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 3: And I was like, man, I signed whatever you need

1723
01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:57,439
Speaker 3: me to sign, like like, just just let me fight.

1724
01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:01,120
Speaker 3: He's like, no, I can't let you fight. And I think,

1725
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:04,400
Speaker 3: you know that was a that was a blessing in disguise,

1726
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:07,320
Speaker 3: because if I would have took that fight and some

1727
01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 3: would have happened, you know, I'd be running a patch

1728
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:13,439
Speaker 3: off my right now, and I wouldn't have had the

1729
01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:16,000
Speaker 3: fights that I had, you know, or made the money

1730
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:19,120
Speaker 3: that I made, or compliments and things like that. So

1731
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:22,439
Speaker 3: I just feel like that was a blessing disguise for

1732
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:24,360
Speaker 3: me to getting.

1733
01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:27,280
Speaker 2: Blessed a lot. Man. Man, you showed me getting blessed.

1734
01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 3: I don't know what it is. I don't. I mean,

1735
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:33,719
Speaker 3: I'm favored.

1736
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:36,439
Speaker 4: I guess I see it. I guess I'm favoring.

1737
01:23:36,520 --> 01:23:36,720
Speaker 3: Man.

1738
01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:40,680
Speaker 2: Well, God got to intervene in your life. He intervened.

1739
01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:45,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, he intervened. He's like nah, he like, I'm like, yeah,

1740
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 3: he leave with me. I was just gonna crash, you

1741
01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:53,160
Speaker 3: know that. He knows. Yeah, just let me fight, like

1742
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:56,080
Speaker 3: whatever you need me to sign whatever, Like I do

1743
01:23:56,160 --> 01:23:59,600
Speaker 3: it it's like nah, and I didn't get wild but

1744
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 3: you and the whole time, like I had to take

1745
01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:06,559
Speaker 3: like a year some change off whatever, and I feel

1746
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:09,479
Speaker 3: like that rest helped me help me come back and

1747
01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 3: help me come back stronger. Because even with when I

1748
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 3: got to us fight us being him, I was like,

1749
01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:19,720
Speaker 3: all right, yeah, y'all, yeah, y'a, hang, get me. I

1750
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:22,760
Speaker 3: want you guys now. So I got to us fight

1751
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 3: and I feel way better.

1752
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:24,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1753
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:27,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you you hit me with a with a

1754
01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:29,880
Speaker 1: d M in August twenty twenty one. You was like,

1755
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:31,559
Speaker 1: I think I was just checking on you about your eye.

1756
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:34,479
Speaker 1: And he was like, hey, bro, because I respect your opinion.

1757
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:37,680
Speaker 1: Just no, I'm not ducking that craw for fight. He

1758
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:39,800
Speaker 1: was like, I'm just getting everything in positioned and then

1759
01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:40,680
Speaker 1: I'm finna go for it.

1760
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:42,600
Speaker 2: I was like, all right, for sure, bet so let

1761
01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:44,080
Speaker 2: me let me back up this a minute. So y'all

1762
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:47,439
Speaker 2: y'all have been y'all have been having like talks here

1763
01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:48,040
Speaker 2: and there.

1764
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:53,599
Speaker 3: At that time. No, not at that time. So after that, yeah,

1765
01:24:53,680 --> 01:24:54,160
Speaker 3: after that.

1766
01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:55,960
Speaker 2: So tell me about that, because you you know, I've

1767
01:24:55,960 --> 01:24:56,839
Speaker 2: interviewed Crawford.

1768
01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:58,839
Speaker 1: He he told me about it, and I think that's

1769
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:00,000
Speaker 1: one of the dopest things.

1770
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:03,000
Speaker 2: Will fight his conside step to you know, they people

1771
01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:05,559
Speaker 2: for a second secment what you want, let's talk about it, y'all.

1772
01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:06,880
Speaker 2: Y'all had that conversation.

1773
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:11,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I mean we both trying to make it happen.

1774
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:15,160
Speaker 3: And you know how the type of guy, you know

1775
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:19,800
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, he gonna make sure you maximize. You know,

1776
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:22,880
Speaker 3: he gonna make sure you get everything you posting your

1777
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:26,360
Speaker 3: hands on, like he gonna make sure you gucci because

1778
01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:29,760
Speaker 3: you know he worked for the other guy. And uh

1779
01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:32,320
Speaker 3: me and at first, me and crowd, we were just

1780
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 3: talking about you know, life, talking about his different situation

1781
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:39,400
Speaker 3: things like that. You know, even like before he had

1782
01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:41,240
Speaker 3: his baby, I knew about it and all that. Like

1783
01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:43,400
Speaker 3: we talked about all that, Like he told me about

1784
01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:45,720
Speaker 3: how he had a baby on the way and this

1785
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:49,240
Speaker 3: and that, this and that and uh, you know what

1786
01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:53,000
Speaker 3: I'm saying. We were just talking and basically you know,

1787
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:56,080
Speaker 3: he was saying, you know what he thinks he deserved.

1788
01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:58,760
Speaker 3: I was saying, you know this, and that was just

1789
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:02,400
Speaker 3: going over the situation. Who was saying what and what

1790
01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:03,120
Speaker 3: was saying this?

1791
01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:03,439
Speaker 2: And this?

1792
01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:06,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just us, It's just us on the phone,

1793
01:26:06,479 --> 01:26:09,160
Speaker 3: just just talking up and I was just telling them like, bro,

1794
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:11,840
Speaker 3: I think I like, I tell you what about because

1795
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 3: they were trying to at first. Was it sixty five

1796
01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:18,280
Speaker 3: forty five? It was something like that like and I

1797
01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 3: was like, I was like, nah, bro, I think you.

1798
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:26,559
Speaker 3: I think you you deserve more whatever, And I think

1799
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:31,040
Speaker 3: I did it. What did I do? I think I

1800
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:33,439
Speaker 3: did fifty five forty five or something like. It was

1801
01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:35,960
Speaker 3: something like that. I did, you know what I'm saying.

1802
01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:38,479
Speaker 3: I went to my people. I was like, man, give

1803
01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:41,439
Speaker 3: them that, like, you know, I just want to make

1804
01:26:41,479 --> 01:26:44,120
Speaker 3: the fight happen, you know. And they, you know, they

1805
01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:46,200
Speaker 3: had their reserves about it because you know, they want

1806
01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:49,160
Speaker 3: to maximize, you know, they want to maximize what I

1807
01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:51,200
Speaker 3: get or whatever. But I was like, man, I'm not

1808
01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:54,559
Speaker 3: not tripping out that like, just you know, it made

1809
01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:57,479
Speaker 3: the fight happen. And plus, I ain't want to be

1810
01:26:57,560 --> 01:27:00,679
Speaker 3: a guy who I could have but if I would

1811
01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:03,080
Speaker 3: have moved up, you know, I didn't want to have

1812
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:06,280
Speaker 3: that on my back. Like man, a ducking at work, Yeah,

1813
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:08,439
Speaker 3: dug and action this and that. Oh he can fight

1814
01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:11,479
Speaker 3: who guys and this, but he can't fight crawting this

1815
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:11,880
Speaker 3: and that.

1816
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:14,240
Speaker 4: So I was just like, man, just.

1817
01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:17,639
Speaker 3: Make it happen, like he gotta gotta happen now, even

1818
01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:19,880
Speaker 3: though I do feel like he probably would have he

1819
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:21,800
Speaker 3: would have he would have fired meal to phisty four,

1820
01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:24,479
Speaker 3: But I was just like having a forty sevens for

1821
01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:27,760
Speaker 3: you know, all the times whatever, this and that, come on,

1822
01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:32,439
Speaker 3: let's do it. So we talked about it, and you know,

1823
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:34,639
Speaker 3: I feel like we made it happen between each other

1824
01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:38,840
Speaker 3: before you know it could happen. But between the suits.

1825
01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:41,320
Speaker 1: Did you like, it wasn't no guarantee, they just know

1826
01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:43,720
Speaker 1: what pretty much like, Okay, the Gate probably just gonna

1827
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:46,080
Speaker 1: sell out, so that's pretty much gonna be their sponsorship

1828
01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:48,360
Speaker 1: site feet So that's how pretty much how you can

1829
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:50,280
Speaker 1: gauge what you're gonna make when it just going off

1830
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:51,519
Speaker 1: a percentage out y'all did it?

1831
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:55,720
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, like it wasn't It wasn't no guarantee

1832
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:57,799
Speaker 3: you like, but you knew.

1833
01:27:57,600 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 2: The fight was.

1834
01:27:58,120 --> 01:28:00,880
Speaker 1: The fight was made, been talked about for you. Everybody

1835
01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:03,040
Speaker 1: wanted to see it. So it wasn't like we ain't

1836
01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:03,760
Speaker 1: gonna make no money.

1837
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:05,240
Speaker 2: It just mattered. The question is how much?

1838
01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:08,360
Speaker 3: Question was how was it? How much it was gonna

1839
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:12,280
Speaker 3: make so it wasn't regally no guarantees, and I guess

1840
01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:15,640
Speaker 3: they wanted me to maximize everything. So they was, you know,

1841
01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:18,360
Speaker 3: trying to get a trying to get a huge number,

1842
01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:21,439
Speaker 3: and I think, you know, it could have happened if

1843
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:24,400
Speaker 3: you know the way of that, but oh really yeah,

1844
01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:28,240
Speaker 3: but you know what I'm saying, Like I would have

1845
01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:32,640
Speaker 3: got a bigger per if I was just let you know,

1846
01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:34,640
Speaker 3: I don't do anything. If I would have too a

1847
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:37,599
Speaker 3: couple more months or whatever, you know, you know, tearing

1848
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:40,599
Speaker 3: here here, guy, he ain't you know, he ain't going. Yeah,

1849
01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:43,760
Speaker 3: he ain't going. He ain't going. Yeah, But I was

1850
01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:46,160
Speaker 3: just like, man, it's just you know, just made made

1851
01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:48,920
Speaker 3: the fight happen, you know what I'm saying. And you

1852
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:49,920
Speaker 3: know my people made it.

1853
01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:51,360
Speaker 4: They made it happen together.

1854
01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:54,639
Speaker 2: So going into that camp, you and Derek have any

1855
01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:56,840
Speaker 2: any any conversation like, look that how we gotta get

1856
01:28:56,880 --> 01:29:00,879
Speaker 2: down for this fight strategically or even you know, strict conditioning.

1857
01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:03,320
Speaker 2: Did y'all have any talks about that going into that camp?

1858
01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:05,400
Speaker 3: No?

1859
01:29:05,640 --> 01:29:08,640
Speaker 2: Come on with John No, biggest fight of both of

1860
01:29:08,720 --> 01:29:09,680
Speaker 2: y'all's career.

1861
01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:15,200
Speaker 3: Man, that came with books the whole camp. Yeah, bro,

1862
01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 3: like I didn't even like I didn't spat probably like

1863
01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:22,680
Speaker 3: what six weeks, yeah, like six seven weeks, Like I

1864
01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:27,960
Speaker 3: didn't no spawn, like you know, it was just it

1865
01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:29,680
Speaker 3: was just a lot of stuff that went wrong in

1866
01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:33,280
Speaker 3: that camp. Like even like before that, like the Spawn partners,

1867
01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:37,880
Speaker 3: like the guys didn't fix. I had no South Pauls

1868
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:41,000
Speaker 3: in there to spat, none of that. Like it was

1869
01:29:41,040 --> 01:29:45,720
Speaker 3: just all it was all out of whack. But it

1870
01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:48,759
Speaker 3: got to a point where, you know what I'm saying,

1871
01:29:49,080 --> 01:29:52,080
Speaker 3: I felt like it got to point who like my

1872
01:29:52,200 --> 01:29:54,559
Speaker 3: body felt like even in the pack yard fight, like

1873
01:29:55,760 --> 01:29:58,720
Speaker 3: I guess I don't know if I was you know,

1874
01:29:58,960 --> 01:30:02,559
Speaker 3: not not even though not I was, I was doing

1875
01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:06,040
Speaker 3: I was basically living wrong, bro, even even getting ready

1876
01:30:06,080 --> 01:30:07,920
Speaker 3: for crawfl you know what I'm saying, before the Cropper

1877
01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:10,960
Speaker 3: and you can't get in camp thinking you know what

1878
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:13,360
Speaker 3: I'm saying, You're not that y'all. When you're getting camp,

1879
01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:17,760
Speaker 3: you're thinking everything gonna you're good now, Like nah, you

1880
01:30:17,800 --> 01:30:20,519
Speaker 3: gotta even out of camp. You gotta live right, so

1881
01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:24,240
Speaker 3: once you get camp, you know, everything be cool like now,

1882
01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:26,960
Speaker 3: like I'm cool now because you know what I'm saying,

1883
01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:29,000
Speaker 3: I've been living right, Like, I ain't been drinking none

1884
01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:32,040
Speaker 3: of that, Like, still been working out. So once I

1885
01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:35,880
Speaker 3: get in camp, you know, I'm a free flowing I'm

1886
01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:40,040
Speaker 3: free flowing in that camp. Bro, everything was just it

1887
01:30:40,160 --> 01:30:42,960
Speaker 3: was just out of whack, but you know, and my

1888
01:30:43,080 --> 01:30:46,439
Speaker 3: body was just it wasn't there. But I wasn't the

1889
01:30:46,479 --> 01:30:50,519
Speaker 3: type of guy who was going. Bro. If you look

1890
01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:54,439
Speaker 3: at it, BRO, what's the main thing for any organization,

1891
01:30:54,800 --> 01:30:57,400
Speaker 3: organism in the world, what is main goal to do,

1892
01:30:58,840 --> 01:31:02,240
Speaker 3: I don't know, whatever kids or area it has, is

1893
01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:05,920
Speaker 3: to preserve that and keep that going. So for me,

1894
01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:10,120
Speaker 3: I knew that this maximum payout. You know, it's gonna

1895
01:31:10,120 --> 01:31:12,120
Speaker 3: take care of my family. Even if I'm not here,

1896
01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:14,600
Speaker 3: it's gonna take care of my family. You know what

1897
01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:17,120
Speaker 3: I'm saying, It'll take care of me, you know.

1898
01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:19,160
Speaker 4: And I didn't know if I was gonna box again

1899
01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:20,400
Speaker 4: and again.

1900
01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:20,880
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1901
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:22,160
Speaker 2: And they felt like that beforeto fight.

1902
01:31:22,360 --> 01:31:25,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I felt like that before the fight, like I

1903
01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:27,240
Speaker 3: didn't know if I was gonna box again ever again.

1904
01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:30,000
Speaker 3: That's why it took so long off, Like it took

1905
01:31:30,400 --> 01:31:32,080
Speaker 3: this long off. I didn't know if I was gonna

1906
01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:35,320
Speaker 3: box again, do anything. So I was like, Bro, I'm

1907
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:37,120
Speaker 3: still gonna I'm still gonna fight.

1908
01:31:37,320 --> 01:31:37,559
Speaker 2: You know.

1909
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:41,080
Speaker 3: It's just it is what it is like, and I'm

1910
01:31:41,120 --> 01:31:43,920
Speaker 3: not gonna make no excuses bad. I'm just gonna do

1911
01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:46,320
Speaker 3: what I do and then whatever criticisms come with it.

1912
01:31:46,360 --> 01:31:49,040
Speaker 3: Wherever criticism come with it, bro with it. At the

1913
01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:51,639
Speaker 3: end of the day, I'm doing it for a bigger picture.

1914
01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:54,559
Speaker 3: Like you know, I was hard headed to do stuff

1915
01:31:54,640 --> 01:31:56,960
Speaker 3: my way, so hey, I gotta be hard headed too

1916
01:31:57,040 --> 01:32:00,519
Speaker 3: in this sense to when else my self on the

1917
01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:02,400
Speaker 3: altar man sacrifice myself.

1918
01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:07,360
Speaker 2: I feel that. I feel that.

1919
01:32:07,400 --> 01:32:09,920
Speaker 1: But what I don't feel is going into that camp

1920
01:32:11,960 --> 01:32:14,519
Speaker 1: whose job is it to pick the sporing partners?

1921
01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:17,320
Speaker 2: And I have that stuff on point or Derek, you're

1922
01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:21,280
Speaker 2: the teacher, right, So when you're not sporling, what are

1923
01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:21,880
Speaker 2: you saying to him?

1924
01:32:23,640 --> 01:32:27,479
Speaker 3: I mean, it was just working a miss the whole time.

1925
01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:31,200
Speaker 3: You just working miss like you would think here we

1926
01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:33,920
Speaker 3: would put on some gloves and had me like black

1927
01:32:33,960 --> 01:32:35,160
Speaker 3: and shots and like not.

1928
01:32:35,880 --> 01:32:37,040
Speaker 4: But it was none of that.

1929
01:32:38,320 --> 01:32:39,920
Speaker 2: I'm getting whooped right now. It's dumb.

1930
01:32:40,080 --> 01:32:41,479
Speaker 3: No, man, that's crazy.

1931
01:32:42,280 --> 01:32:44,080
Speaker 2: So when you said your body didn't feel right, what

1932
01:32:44,120 --> 01:32:44,719
Speaker 2: are you feeling?

1933
01:32:47,160 --> 01:32:52,200
Speaker 3: Uh? Just feeling just feeling weak, depleted, like just feeling

1934
01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:56,479
Speaker 3: just feeling just feeling out of it, bro. Like I

1935
01:32:56,520 --> 01:33:00,320
Speaker 3: feel like even if I worked out, like I felt

1936
01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:03,160
Speaker 3: like I wouldn't getting I felt like I wasn't getting stronger,

1937
01:33:04,360 --> 01:33:08,439
Speaker 3: Like I wasn't getting any muscles or even you don't

1938
01:33:08,439 --> 01:33:12,360
Speaker 3: matter how much ad work I do, core work or whatever, like,

1939
01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:17,680
Speaker 3: it just wasn't translating into you know, a better performance

1940
01:33:17,840 --> 01:33:20,720
Speaker 3: or just me being just cut up, ripped up and

1941
01:33:20,760 --> 01:33:21,960
Speaker 3: in shape and all this and that.

1942
01:33:23,120 --> 01:33:26,120
Speaker 4: I don't know, bro, I just the whole camp.

1943
01:33:26,200 --> 01:33:29,880
Speaker 3: It was just I'll talk about it more when I'm

1944
01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:33,000
Speaker 3: done and I'm retired, like I'll get into like real

1945
01:33:33,080 --> 01:33:35,479
Speaker 3: detail about it and stuff like that, because I got

1946
01:33:36,200 --> 01:33:39,360
Speaker 3: proof on certain things. But you know, it was just

1947
01:33:40,320 --> 01:33:42,160
Speaker 3: it was just a whole messed up situation.

1948
01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:45,960
Speaker 2: Man. You know, you know spawing partners they be talking, bro.

1949
01:33:46,439 --> 01:33:50,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh, I don't think I heard nothing before

1950
01:33:50,080 --> 01:33:50,479
Speaker 1: the fight.

1951
01:33:50,760 --> 01:33:51,679
Speaker 2: It was after the fight.

1952
01:33:51,960 --> 01:33:54,240
Speaker 1: I was into EJ and they started, you know, they

1953
01:33:54,240 --> 01:33:56,880
Speaker 1: were saying stuff about the camp and stuff like that.

1954
01:33:57,080 --> 01:34:00,280
Speaker 1: You know, you don't know what's true, but sporn part

1955
01:34:00,280 --> 01:34:03,160
Speaker 1: of was talking saying stuff like that, like camp was good,

1956
01:34:03,280 --> 01:34:05,880
Speaker 1: and he wasn't looking great and all that kind of stuff.

1957
01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:07,439
Speaker 2: You know, did you hear some of that?

1958
01:34:08,120 --> 01:34:08,400
Speaker 3: Oh?

1959
01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:09,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah I heard.

1960
01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:12,640
Speaker 3: I heard some of that from Uh I heard it

1961
01:34:12,720 --> 01:34:16,640
Speaker 3: now the dude from a dude from Houston. Uh I

1962
01:34:16,760 --> 01:34:20,599
Speaker 3: forgot his name, but yeah, yeah, I was. I was

1963
01:34:20,640 --> 01:34:22,519
Speaker 3: hearing some of that too. You know what I'm saying.

1964
01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:26,559
Speaker 3: I mean he wasn't he wasn't capping on it like

1965
01:34:27,000 --> 01:34:30,200
Speaker 3: I mean, training camp, training camp with with trash at

1966
01:34:30,200 --> 01:34:30,840
Speaker 3: the end of the day.

1967
01:34:31,160 --> 01:34:33,599
Speaker 2: Man, that's crazy. Why the boys got to hit hit

1968
01:34:33,640 --> 01:34:38,240
Speaker 2: with that n d A at the dough You no disclosure?

1969
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:41,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, heck yeah man, because they be talking. Yeah,

1970
01:34:41,520 --> 01:34:43,160
Speaker 2: but I mean I wasn't used to none of that

1971
01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:45,759
Speaker 2: could Yeah. Your usually I was getting off from my sponge.

1972
01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:46,920
Speaker 2: They don't want to talk about it.

1973
01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:48,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, they ain't gonna talk about it, you know what

1974
01:34:48,439 --> 01:34:51,280
Speaker 3: I'm saying. But at that time I should have did

1975
01:34:51,360 --> 01:34:53,719
Speaker 3: some NDA's and all that on everybody.

1976
01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:56,240
Speaker 1: But so, how you feeling when you get to Vegas

1977
01:34:56,280 --> 01:34:59,080
Speaker 1: the week of what what's your what's your honest mental

1978
01:34:59,280 --> 01:35:01,439
Speaker 1: like your comfort this level any doubt I got.

1979
01:35:01,640 --> 01:35:05,400
Speaker 3: I got a Vegas probably like three weeks before the fight.

1980
01:35:06,400 --> 01:35:10,800
Speaker 3: I was in Vegas for like three weeks and you

1981
01:35:10,840 --> 01:35:14,920
Speaker 3: know it was just regular regular training like hitting the past, running,

1982
01:35:15,800 --> 01:35:18,919
Speaker 3: you know, doing trying to do springds, trying to do whatever.

1983
01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:23,160
Speaker 3: But just basic basic training, bro. Like it wasn't like

1984
01:35:23,320 --> 01:35:25,760
Speaker 3: ask anybody who was in Vegas in that gym, like

1985
01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:28,400
Speaker 3: they ain't see me spail. Ain't nobody see me spatling

1986
01:35:29,680 --> 01:35:32,840
Speaker 3: two three weeks out. I ain't sport six weeks out. Brother,

1987
01:35:33,040 --> 01:35:35,840
Speaker 3: Come on, bro, like I ain't sport six weeks out.

1988
01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:36,719
Speaker 2: Like that's hurting.

1989
01:35:37,200 --> 01:35:40,160
Speaker 3: I had to take I got a cutter, wrong shot

1990
01:35:40,439 --> 01:35:43,880
Speaker 3: in my rig because my rig was my ribs were hurting.

1991
01:35:43,880 --> 01:35:45,280
Speaker 3: So I had to got to get cut a wrong

1992
01:35:45,320 --> 01:35:47,880
Speaker 3: shot clear for that. Yeah, Coata Zone had to get

1993
01:35:47,920 --> 01:35:50,439
Speaker 3: clear for that, like the week of the fight. But

1994
01:35:51,720 --> 01:35:53,519
Speaker 3: it was just you know what I'm saying, a lot

1995
01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:55,720
Speaker 3: of stuff going on, but like I said, at the

1996
01:35:55,840 --> 01:35:58,920
Speaker 3: end of the day, I had to take I had

1997
01:35:58,960 --> 01:35:59,479
Speaker 3: to get on that.

1998
01:35:59,640 --> 01:36:01,600
Speaker 4: Uh dang, bro, you know what.

1999
01:36:02,360 --> 01:36:05,799
Speaker 2: It so like you had the worst possible camp, the biggest,

2000
01:36:06,080 --> 01:36:07,439
Speaker 2: biggest moment in your life and.

2001
01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:09,840
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah, but you know what, man, you

2002
01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:10,840
Speaker 3: gotta do what you gotta do.

2003
01:36:11,240 --> 01:36:14,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I need you to answer this though in the

2004
01:36:14,760 --> 01:36:19,320
Speaker 1: locker room, Bro, people saying, EJ looks sleep he looked tired.

2005
01:36:19,520 --> 01:36:21,519
Speaker 2: But was it because I know this too?

2006
01:36:21,640 --> 01:36:24,160
Speaker 1: Like sometimes Bro, like sometimes you're dealing with a lot

2007
01:36:24,160 --> 01:36:27,400
Speaker 1: of pressure, like you can get that sleepy feeling like

2008
01:36:27,439 --> 01:36:29,080
Speaker 1: I didn't felt that. I'm like, Bro, wake up. You

2009
01:36:29,080 --> 01:36:32,040
Speaker 1: gotta shake yourself. Like the pressure so thick sometimes it

2010
01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:33,600
Speaker 1: can make you in that in that state and you

2011
01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:34,720
Speaker 1: gotta kind of snap out of it.

2012
01:36:34,760 --> 01:36:36,360
Speaker 2: What was you what was going on in the corner

2013
01:36:36,400 --> 01:36:39,200
Speaker 2: pre fight? I mean in the locker room before the fight.

2014
01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:43,720
Speaker 3: I was tied, bro, Like, I ain't really sure. I

2015
01:36:43,720 --> 01:36:46,040
Speaker 3: ain't really sleep like that because I already knew what

2016
01:36:46,400 --> 01:36:51,160
Speaker 3: you felt it. Yeah, I already knew what would I

2017
01:36:51,200 --> 01:36:54,840
Speaker 3: don't know, like Bro, in my mind, I thought like

2018
01:36:55,200 --> 01:36:58,920
Speaker 3: in my mind, I thought this fight is gonna be competitive,

2019
01:36:59,000 --> 01:37:02,960
Speaker 3: and you know, I ween but you know what I'm saying,

2020
01:37:03,400 --> 01:37:07,720
Speaker 3: I've been filthy like probably for like a month and

2021
01:37:07,800 --> 01:37:13,080
Speaker 3: some change like like damn, like but just saying in

2022
01:37:13,080 --> 01:37:15,040
Speaker 3: my head, like you know what I'm saying, you doing

2023
01:37:15,040 --> 01:37:18,439
Speaker 3: this feel fanily like you're doing this feel fanly, but

2024
01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:20,479
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, I kind of I kind

2025
01:37:20,479 --> 01:37:25,120
Speaker 3: of felt like, you know, it could be bad, it

2026
01:37:25,160 --> 01:37:26,200
Speaker 3: could be bad, but.

2027
01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:28,479
Speaker 4: At the end of the day, you know you gotta

2028
01:37:28,520 --> 01:37:28,920
Speaker 4: be a man.

2029
01:37:29,040 --> 01:37:32,760
Speaker 3: I wasn't gonna I wasn't gonna not fight, and then

2030
01:37:32,920 --> 01:37:34,920
Speaker 3: I don't know when I was gonna return, Like I

2031
01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:37,679
Speaker 3: could have been returning now three years later, the type stuff,

2032
01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:41,880
Speaker 3: and I want one gonna be one of them fighters

2033
01:37:42,520 --> 01:37:43,040
Speaker 3: that do that.

2034
01:37:43,280 --> 01:37:45,439
Speaker 4: So you know, I had to do what was best

2035
01:37:45,439 --> 01:37:45,720
Speaker 4: for me.

2036
01:37:46,120 --> 01:37:48,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, So you get in the ring, man, and I

2037
01:37:48,920 --> 01:37:51,639
Speaker 1: think early on he like mighta buzzed you with a jab.

2038
01:37:51,479 --> 01:37:53,160
Speaker 2: Or something like that. I didn't have to happen to me.

2039
01:37:53,280 --> 01:37:54,200
Speaker 2: That's a crazy feeling.

2040
01:37:54,560 --> 01:37:56,400
Speaker 1: But the jab is strong if you're laying in the

2041
01:37:56,479 --> 01:38:00,320
Speaker 1: right spot, especially early, it's like it's like right or

2042
01:38:00,479 --> 01:38:04,200
Speaker 1: his car, left hand. But as a fighters, unfolding, what's

2043
01:38:04,240 --> 01:38:06,480
Speaker 1: going on in your head getting.

2044
01:38:06,160 --> 01:38:06,799
Speaker 2: Caught with shots.

2045
01:38:06,800 --> 01:38:08,720
Speaker 1: You're trying, you're trying to get your shots, but you're

2046
01:38:08,720 --> 01:38:10,880
Speaker 1: not really landing, like think you landed a couple of

2047
01:38:10,880 --> 01:38:11,479
Speaker 1: good shots.

2048
01:38:11,880 --> 01:38:13,800
Speaker 3: I mean, never going on in my head. I mean

2049
01:38:13,840 --> 01:38:15,520
Speaker 3: I was I was fighting.

2050
01:38:15,200 --> 01:38:18,400
Speaker 1: Bro, Like you ain't thinking like dang, it's happening, Like

2051
01:38:18,640 --> 01:38:19,559
Speaker 1: what I felt is happened.

2052
01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:23,599
Speaker 3: You ain't thinking I don't never I don't know. I

2053
01:38:23,720 --> 01:38:25,760
Speaker 3: just don't be having the type thoughts in my head.

2054
01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:29,240
Speaker 3: Like it's halving it like you be having no type thoughts.

2055
01:38:29,520 --> 01:38:31,080
Speaker 3: I mean, I'll be up most of the time, so

2056
01:38:31,280 --> 01:38:34,519
Speaker 3: I'll be going like I'm just going like I'm trying

2057
01:38:34,520 --> 01:38:38,240
Speaker 3: to get I'm trying to fight. That was all in

2058
01:38:38,320 --> 01:38:40,519
Speaker 3: my head, Like I'm just trying to fight, like and.

2059
01:38:40,479 --> 01:38:42,479
Speaker 1: I guess I'm asking because that had never happened to

2060
01:38:42,520 --> 01:38:46,639
Speaker 1: you before. Sometimes in them type of moments, maybe your

2061
01:38:46,680 --> 01:38:48,240
Speaker 1: brain will take you a place that ain't never took

2062
01:38:48,280 --> 01:38:49,479
Speaker 1: because this has never happened.

2063
01:38:49,800 --> 01:38:50,760
Speaker 2: You're always on top.

2064
01:38:50,920 --> 01:38:52,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Nah, I'm just trying

2065
01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:55,720
Speaker 3: to fight, bro, Like that's all I was trying to do,

2066
01:38:55,760 --> 01:38:56,559
Speaker 3: is just trying to fight.

2067
01:38:56,680 --> 01:38:58,840
Speaker 4: Like it ain't never hit occurred to.

2068
01:38:58,800 --> 01:39:01,720
Speaker 3: Me, Like oh man, like you was not this and that,

2069
01:39:01,880 --> 01:39:04,320
Speaker 3: Like even when I got off the canvas, it was

2070
01:39:04,439 --> 01:39:07,240
Speaker 3: just you know what I'm saying, you can't hesitate you

2071
01:39:07,280 --> 01:39:10,360
Speaker 3: just you know, yeah, like I was just fighting, bro,

2072
01:39:10,520 --> 01:39:12,439
Speaker 3: Like they just who I am? Bro?

2073
01:39:13,160 --> 01:39:18,280
Speaker 1: Anything that Crawford had that night that you wasn't expecting, man.

2074
01:39:18,320 --> 01:39:23,400
Speaker 3: You would think like we would go over like him

2075
01:39:23,439 --> 01:39:26,599
Speaker 3: and his south for a stance, like me blocking the jazz.

2076
01:39:28,400 --> 01:39:33,600
Speaker 3: We didn't do nothing in trying to camp, Like, we

2077
01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:36,160
Speaker 3: didn't do nothing that that can't You'll think like we'll

2078
01:39:36,240 --> 01:39:38,759
Speaker 3: go over there, like me keeping my hands right here

2079
01:39:39,280 --> 01:39:41,599
Speaker 3: and catching it and shooting back and all this and that.

2080
01:39:41,720 --> 01:39:44,320
Speaker 3: But it was it was none of that. Like he

2081
01:39:44,360 --> 01:39:46,400
Speaker 3: came out like me mad. I was just holding my

2082
01:39:46,439 --> 01:39:49,840
Speaker 3: ship like this, and I was like, you know what

2083
01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:50,240
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

2084
01:39:50,320 --> 01:39:51,200
Speaker 4: It was just it was.

2085
01:39:51,439 --> 01:39:54,720
Speaker 3: It was a lot of stuff that that you know,

2086
01:39:54,840 --> 01:39:58,280
Speaker 3: they could have been different though, could have been prevented

2087
01:39:59,439 --> 01:40:02,200
Speaker 3: even if I wasn't spawn like that. We could have

2088
01:40:02,640 --> 01:40:07,120
Speaker 3: prevented a lot of things that she couldn't that shouldn't

2089
01:40:07,120 --> 01:40:09,679
Speaker 3: have that shouldn't have happened, you know what I'm saying,

2090
01:40:09,720 --> 01:40:13,599
Speaker 3: Like just simple placeman and me catching the jazz from

2091
01:40:13,600 --> 01:40:15,680
Speaker 3: his south part stance and things like that.

2092
01:40:15,760 --> 01:40:17,719
Speaker 2: You wouldn't telling him like dad, we gotta work on this.

2093
01:40:18,520 --> 01:40:24,040
Speaker 1: Nah, you better than me. I would have been I've

2094
01:40:24,080 --> 01:40:29,400
Speaker 1: been talking, Bro, I would have been talking. I would

2095
01:40:29,400 --> 01:40:34,439
Speaker 1: have been talking, man, Bro, that's crazy. That's crazy.

2096
01:40:35,680 --> 01:40:35,800
Speaker 2: Man.

2097
01:40:35,840 --> 01:40:38,840
Speaker 1: If I get stopped in the night round, are you coherent?

2098
01:40:38,960 --> 01:40:41,000
Speaker 1: You know where you're at for sure, So you just

2099
01:40:41,120 --> 01:40:41,800
Speaker 1: was just hurt.

2100
01:40:42,320 --> 01:40:44,000
Speaker 3: Huh, you was just Yeah, I was just hurt, but

2101
01:40:44,040 --> 01:40:46,360
Speaker 3: you knew where you was at. Yeah, for sure where

2102
01:40:46,360 --> 01:40:48,280
Speaker 3: I was at. I even got to locker room and

2103
01:40:48,360 --> 01:40:50,120
Speaker 3: I told him, like, what y'all looking sad?

2104
01:40:52,280 --> 01:40:52,840
Speaker 2: I seen that?

2105
01:40:53,479 --> 01:40:55,679
Speaker 4: Like what y'all looking sad? For man?

2106
01:40:56,520 --> 01:40:56,760
Speaker 3: True?

2107
01:40:57,160 --> 01:40:59,840
Speaker 4: Like you know what I'm saying, happened, Like I didn't

2108
01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:00,920
Speaker 4: a lot of people.

2109
01:41:00,680 --> 01:41:03,680
Speaker 2: Like this, this would come with it.

2110
01:41:03,680 --> 01:41:05,000
Speaker 4: It come with the game, man.

2111
01:41:05,080 --> 01:41:08,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I stopped looking so dam sad like somebody died.

2112
01:41:08,479 --> 01:41:11,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember that they had the camera on you.

2113
01:41:11,120 --> 01:41:12,439
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. That's how it was.

2114
01:41:13,360 --> 01:41:15,320
Speaker 1: Did Was there any party that was relieved that it

2115
01:41:15,400 --> 01:41:17,840
Speaker 1: was over? Been talking about this dude for four five,

2116
01:41:17,960 --> 01:41:18,840
Speaker 1: six year whatever it's been.

2117
01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:23,200
Speaker 3: H I didn't even think about that. I ain't think

2118
01:41:23,240 --> 01:41:27,360
Speaker 3: about believe they was over this and that, like, well

2119
01:41:27,720 --> 01:41:31,080
Speaker 3: I'm one, I'm an even kill dude, bro, Like, like

2120
01:41:32,080 --> 01:41:36,840
Speaker 3: it wasn't that our relieve because just like it is

2121
01:41:36,880 --> 01:41:40,240
Speaker 3: what it is, what it is, like damn, Like, yeah

2122
01:41:40,240 --> 01:41:44,720
Speaker 3: it happened and you know this and that, but you

2123
01:41:44,760 --> 01:41:47,680
Speaker 3: know still happening. Bro. You guys, you gotta be you

2124
01:41:47,720 --> 01:41:50,000
Speaker 3: gotta be a man about stuff that happened like that.

2125
01:41:50,280 --> 01:41:54,160
Speaker 3: Like some stuff not gonna happen in your favor, but

2126
01:41:54,560 --> 01:41:58,240
Speaker 3: you know how you're gonna bounce back in who are

2127
01:41:58,320 --> 01:42:02,280
Speaker 3: you as a man? Yeah? Like I just had to

2128
01:42:02,840 --> 01:42:04,719
Speaker 3: had to eat it. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

2129
01:42:04,760 --> 01:42:06,040
Speaker 3: I ain't like the way it tastes.

2130
01:42:07,640 --> 01:42:08,400
Speaker 4: I had to eat it.

2131
01:42:08,680 --> 01:42:08,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2132
01:42:09,479 --> 01:42:11,599
Speaker 2: What was your first conversation like with there? Y'all talked

2133
01:42:11,600 --> 01:42:15,760
Speaker 2: that night? Nah, y'all talked after that weeks after.

2134
01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:19,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, we talked a little bit weeks after, but it

2135
01:42:20,160 --> 01:42:23,479
Speaker 3: wasn't really I came to his house and gave him

2136
01:42:23,479 --> 01:42:24,760
Speaker 3: his check and things like that.

2137
01:42:25,360 --> 01:42:27,080
Speaker 4: I came to the house and gave him his chick.

2138
01:42:28,200 --> 01:42:28,960
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

2139
01:42:29,240 --> 01:42:30,320
Speaker 3: If I was trying to get out of me and

2140
01:42:30,800 --> 01:42:33,599
Speaker 3: I came to your house, bro, in your house like

2141
01:42:33,880 --> 01:42:36,400
Speaker 3: and sat down and gave your chick, you know what

2142
01:42:36,439 --> 01:42:36,920
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

2143
01:42:37,040 --> 01:42:41,120
Speaker 2: So what about an hour? What's your conversation like with

2144
01:42:41,200 --> 01:42:41,960
Speaker 2: hour after that fight?

2145
01:42:42,560 --> 01:42:46,719
Speaker 3: I mean, conversation is always pleasant? Like even after that, Yeah,

2146
01:42:46,800 --> 01:42:49,240
Speaker 3: even after that, Like you know, he was just saying,

2147
01:42:49,240 --> 01:42:53,320
Speaker 3: it's cool. It's like it was always it was always

2148
01:42:53,400 --> 01:42:56,320
Speaker 3: been pleasant, Like we talked about, you know, certain things,

2149
01:42:56,400 --> 01:43:00,760
Speaker 3: and you know, even after that, like that's I set

2150
01:43:00,880 --> 01:43:04,479
Speaker 3: up my trust, I set up my uh my kids

2151
01:43:04,640 --> 01:43:08,200
Speaker 3: education trust, you know, just set up a whole other stuff.

2152
01:43:08,320 --> 01:43:11,320
Speaker 3: That's when he you know, hugged me up with you know,

2153
01:43:11,479 --> 01:43:13,840
Speaker 3: people he worked with in business and things like that

2154
01:43:13,960 --> 01:43:16,840
Speaker 3: and just got everything you know situated.

2155
01:43:17,280 --> 01:43:19,519
Speaker 2: It was talk about the rematch. When did that die?

2156
01:43:19,520 --> 01:43:20,719
Speaker 2: When he was like, it ain't gonna happen.

2157
01:43:21,640 --> 01:43:24,880
Speaker 4: Uh, I mean I never said it wasn't gonna happen.

2158
01:43:24,880 --> 01:43:29,920
Speaker 3: It's just you know, I think Al knew the you know,

2159
01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:35,600
Speaker 3: the I don't know. I guess I just knew, you know,

2160
01:43:35,960 --> 01:43:38,600
Speaker 3: what I was going through, and he knew that, you know,

2161
01:43:39,240 --> 01:43:44,000
Speaker 3: it couldn't happened no time, So like it just couldn't

2162
01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:44,759
Speaker 3: happen those times.

2163
01:43:44,760 --> 01:43:47,479
Speaker 2: So was that hard for you? Can I try to

2164
01:43:47,520 --> 01:43:48,080
Speaker 2: get that back?

2165
01:43:49,120 --> 01:43:49,680
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2166
01:43:49,720 --> 01:43:53,559
Speaker 3: For sure? For sure? For sure that was hard for sure.

2167
01:43:54,280 --> 01:43:56,240
Speaker 3: But you know I needed I needed that breaking his

2168
01:43:56,320 --> 01:44:00,439
Speaker 3: time off, you know, I needed it helped. It definitely

2169
01:44:00,520 --> 01:44:03,519
Speaker 3: was a positive of me taking that longouf from Boston,

2170
01:44:03,560 --> 01:44:06,760
Speaker 3: that lineout from going to the gym and just not

2171
01:44:06,920 --> 01:44:10,920
Speaker 3: just physically but just getting everything right mentally and just

2172
01:44:10,960 --> 01:44:16,639
Speaker 3: becoming more of a what I say, a functional man

2173
01:44:17,680 --> 01:44:19,559
Speaker 3: rather than just you know, just.

2174
01:44:19,479 --> 01:44:20,040
Speaker 2: Being a man.

2175
01:44:20,120 --> 01:44:23,240
Speaker 3: Was just being you know, a man with you know,

2176
01:44:23,640 --> 01:44:28,439
Speaker 3: with moils and standards and yeah, and you know, being

2177
01:44:28,479 --> 01:44:31,720
Speaker 3: about my family and really saying who I say I

2178
01:44:31,760 --> 01:44:33,040
Speaker 3: am on camera.

2179
01:44:33,439 --> 01:44:34,840
Speaker 2: A couple of MoMA get you out of here. What

2180
01:44:34,840 --> 01:44:38,479
Speaker 2: have you learned about people since that lost city? People

2181
01:44:38,479 --> 01:44:40,880
Speaker 2: in general? Like, what's some of your takeaways on that?

2182
01:44:41,280 --> 01:44:44,400
Speaker 3: I mean, I wouldn't say people of fate. I just

2183
01:44:44,520 --> 01:44:47,519
Speaker 3: you know, people is just who they are. I don't

2184
01:44:47,800 --> 01:44:51,120
Speaker 3: just because somebody don't check on me or I don't.

2185
01:44:51,400 --> 01:44:54,000
Speaker 3: I don't think nothing wrong with them, just because you know,

2186
01:44:54,280 --> 01:44:57,240
Speaker 3: people got their own life, you know, and a lot

2187
01:44:57,280 --> 01:45:00,000
Speaker 3: of these people got bills, they got paid, they got jobs,

2188
01:45:00,680 --> 01:45:03,920
Speaker 3: you know, they got kids, They working man. You'd be

2189
01:45:04,040 --> 01:45:07,080
Speaker 3: surprised how the people that live in paycheck to paycheck

2190
01:45:07,160 --> 01:45:08,000
Speaker 3: and just trying to.

2191
01:45:07,920 --> 01:45:08,840
Speaker 4: Make ends meet.

2192
01:45:09,000 --> 01:45:14,559
Speaker 3: So I really don't take it in the negative where

2193
01:45:14,600 --> 01:45:17,599
Speaker 3: people don't didn't hit me up with you know what

2194
01:45:17,600 --> 01:45:21,040
Speaker 3: I'm saying, didn't you know, didn't really just you know,

2195
01:45:21,240 --> 01:45:23,599
Speaker 3: keeping touch with me and things like that, because at

2196
01:45:23,600 --> 01:45:25,360
Speaker 3: the end of the day, I didn't keep in touch

2197
01:45:25,400 --> 01:45:28,439
Speaker 3: with them either you know what I'm saying. You know

2198
01:45:28,479 --> 01:45:30,439
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, go both ways. They probably like that,

2199
01:45:30,439 --> 01:45:32,800
Speaker 3: ain't why you know what I'm saying. I never kept

2200
01:45:32,840 --> 01:45:35,640
Speaker 3: touching them either, so you know I took it for

2201
01:45:35,760 --> 01:45:39,400
Speaker 3: granted South, But I also, you know, just got deeper

2202
01:45:39,840 --> 01:45:43,519
Speaker 3: and connected with my family and just you know, and

2203
01:45:43,640 --> 01:45:46,240
Speaker 3: really just used them. I hugged down to them tight,

2204
01:45:46,400 --> 01:45:49,360
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, because it always been like that,

2205
01:45:49,640 --> 01:45:52,840
Speaker 3: like something happened to me and I'm always I go

2206
01:45:52,920 --> 01:45:55,680
Speaker 3: to them. Was just you know, uh, they always been

2207
01:45:55,720 --> 01:45:59,360
Speaker 3: my safe place, you know, And I just learned from

2208
01:45:59,400 --> 01:46:02,280
Speaker 3: that to like even to today, Like you know what

2209
01:46:02,320 --> 01:46:04,760
Speaker 3: I'm saying, this is, this is my safe place. So

2210
01:46:05,680 --> 01:46:07,920
Speaker 3: I just keep them around. I stay around them because

2211
01:46:07,960 --> 01:46:11,240
Speaker 3: I notice every time I'm with my lady with my family,

2212
01:46:11,400 --> 01:46:18,400
Speaker 3: nothing bad. It's always been over I'm with so I'm

2213
01:46:18,439 --> 01:46:21,080
Speaker 3: with yild some bad happening. When I told my lady,

2214
01:46:21,080 --> 01:46:23,200
Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, whenever I'm with you or my family,

2215
01:46:23,360 --> 01:46:25,920
Speaker 3: were good, nothing happened, nothing bad.

2216
01:46:25,920 --> 01:46:28,160
Speaker 4: I can't think of anything bad happen when I'm with

2217
01:46:28,200 --> 01:46:28,719
Speaker 4: my family.

2218
01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:32,000
Speaker 3: It's been on with courages and different other people that

2219
01:46:32,200 --> 01:46:36,599
Speaker 3: something happened every time. So I was like, man, hey

2220
01:46:36,640 --> 01:46:39,240
Speaker 3: for something to keep stuff from bad from happening.

2221
01:46:39,439 --> 01:46:40,200
Speaker 2: Stay away from y'all.

2222
01:46:40,240 --> 01:46:42,800
Speaker 3: I'm staying with my family. I'm kicking with every time

2223
01:46:42,840 --> 01:46:45,160
Speaker 3: you see me, you gonna see me with somebody. You

2224
01:46:45,160 --> 01:46:46,920
Speaker 3: don't see me one of the kids. You don't see

2225
01:46:46,960 --> 01:46:49,599
Speaker 3: me with a family man. You don't see me with

2226
01:46:49,640 --> 01:46:52,920
Speaker 3: somebody with my lady, Like you're not finish see me

2227
01:46:53,000 --> 01:46:55,960
Speaker 3: out hanging out, doing this, doing that, like you know

2228
01:46:56,000 --> 01:47:00,000
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, none of that. Like if I'm doing anything,

2229
01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:03,120
Speaker 3: i am probably not with my lady or I mean

2230
01:47:03,200 --> 01:47:05,880
Speaker 3: it out like I'm not just sticking around, bro. So

2231
01:47:06,080 --> 01:47:09,680
Speaker 3: the main thing I learned is just bro, just you

2232
01:47:09,840 --> 01:47:14,880
Speaker 3: safer with your family. Uh, and just you know, just

2233
01:47:15,120 --> 01:47:17,920
Speaker 3: you know, people are who they are and everybody got

2234
01:47:17,960 --> 01:47:22,920
Speaker 3: their own life, and you know you just gotta you can't.

2235
01:47:23,080 --> 01:47:25,360
Speaker 3: You can't take it as native just because somebody not

2236
01:47:25,400 --> 01:47:27,840
Speaker 3: hitting them up, because you gotta look in the mirror.

2237
01:47:27,880 --> 01:47:31,000
Speaker 3: You're not hitting them up either, you know, and they

2238
01:47:31,040 --> 01:47:34,320
Speaker 3: see people know what type of person I am, Like

2239
01:47:34,880 --> 01:47:37,760
Speaker 3: I'm not the person to be hitting people up, you know.

2240
01:47:37,800 --> 01:47:41,320
Speaker 3: I like to be by myself, Like I want the.

2241
01:47:41,360 --> 01:47:42,840
Speaker 4: Guys to sit on the front porch.

2242
01:47:42,920 --> 01:47:45,599
Speaker 3: I sit on a porch for Porsche forty five minutes

2243
01:47:45,640 --> 01:47:48,600
Speaker 3: a high one, just chilling, chilling on a Porsch. Or

2244
01:47:48,600 --> 01:47:51,679
Speaker 3: I sit in the backyard and just after just chilling,

2245
01:47:51,760 --> 01:47:53,760
Speaker 3: my girl like where are you at? Like I'm in

2246
01:47:53,840 --> 01:47:57,639
Speaker 3: the bag, what's up? She's like to see where you're

2247
01:47:57,640 --> 01:48:00,920
Speaker 3: coming in. I'll be in like that, ain't chill like that.

2248
01:48:01,080 --> 01:48:03,679
Speaker 4: Type of person I am. I like, I like being

2249
01:48:03,720 --> 01:48:04,360
Speaker 4: by myself.

2250
01:48:04,360 --> 01:48:07,799
Speaker 3: I like being secluded, bro so, And I think people

2251
01:48:07,880 --> 01:48:10,880
Speaker 3: get that, you know, people get that, you know, when

2252
01:48:10,920 --> 01:48:12,920
Speaker 3: they see me or meet me or talk to me

2253
01:48:12,960 --> 01:48:15,320
Speaker 3: and this, and that they like, you know, he just

2254
01:48:15,320 --> 01:48:17,920
Speaker 3: just one of them guys. Like he's just just a

2255
01:48:17,960 --> 01:48:22,320
Speaker 3: lone wolf. And I'm just embracing that more. I'm like, bro,

2256
01:48:22,400 --> 01:48:25,160
Speaker 3: I ain't gotta do this. I ain't got to do that.

2257
01:48:25,800 --> 01:48:28,080
Speaker 3: I ain't gotta drain go do this and do that.

2258
01:48:28,200 --> 01:48:30,280
Speaker 3: Like I don't feel like going somewhere. I'm not gonna

2259
01:48:30,320 --> 01:48:32,640
Speaker 3: go somewhere. I'm not just not gonna go, bro, Like

2260
01:48:32,920 --> 01:48:35,080
Speaker 3: you don't matter what it is, Like it was a

2261
01:48:35,120 --> 01:48:39,160
Speaker 3: fighting in Houston last night. I ain't go, like I

2262
01:48:39,200 --> 01:48:41,160
Speaker 3: could win, I ain't going because I didn't want to

2263
01:48:41,160 --> 01:48:44,760
Speaker 3: be around all the people like like in here, it

2264
01:48:44,880 --> 01:48:48,120
Speaker 3: be passing here, like people be here. I ask them,

2265
01:48:48,240 --> 01:48:51,400
Speaker 3: I go and read a book while I go be

2266
01:48:51,439 --> 01:48:53,479
Speaker 3: in my room chilling, while I go for a walk,

2267
01:48:53,720 --> 01:48:56,360
Speaker 3: Like I'm just not one of them guys. And I

2268
01:48:56,520 --> 01:48:59,080
Speaker 3: just embraced that that, you know what I'm saying. If

2269
01:48:59,160 --> 01:49:01,160
Speaker 3: I don't feel like doing or something, I'm not gonna

2270
01:49:01,160 --> 01:49:02,720
Speaker 3: do it no matter what it is.

2271
01:49:02,760 --> 01:49:03,720
Speaker 2: You earn that right.

2272
01:49:03,920 --> 01:49:07,200
Speaker 3: Like even I was at the Annown Start fight at

2273
01:49:07,240 --> 01:49:10,280
Speaker 3: the day being to be the fight. After the day

2274
01:49:10,360 --> 01:49:12,240
Speaker 3: I went home. They were trying to give me to

2275
01:49:12,280 --> 01:49:14,439
Speaker 3: go to the fight out there, like they called Alt

2276
01:49:15,040 --> 01:49:17,160
Speaker 3: telling how he was like, Bro, you don't have to

2277
01:49:17,160 --> 01:49:18,920
Speaker 3: do nothing you don't want to do, because like you

2278
01:49:19,000 --> 01:49:21,120
Speaker 3: aren't the right to do whatever you want to do.

2279
01:49:21,240 --> 01:49:21,639
Speaker 2: That's right.

2280
01:49:21,720 --> 01:49:23,400
Speaker 3: I was like, all right, cool, I don't want to

2281
01:49:23,400 --> 01:49:26,720
Speaker 3: go home out. I didn't go to the fight. I

2282
01:49:26,760 --> 01:49:30,080
Speaker 3: went home, bro, like I'm not I'm not trying to

2283
01:49:30,120 --> 01:49:33,040
Speaker 3: hang out and kick it and had to shake hands

2284
01:49:33,080 --> 01:49:35,640
Speaker 3: and smile and all this and the like, man, I

2285
01:49:35,720 --> 01:49:37,280
Speaker 3: want to go on my family, bro, Like.

2286
01:49:37,439 --> 01:49:39,800
Speaker 1: Man, I respect. I got a lot of that in

2287
01:49:39,880 --> 01:49:42,519
Speaker 1: me too. Yeah, got a lot of that in me too.

2288
01:49:43,280 --> 01:49:46,000
Speaker 1: What's the mission now? Thirty six years old? What's the mission?

2289
01:49:46,040 --> 01:49:46,960
Speaker 1: Why are you still fighting?

2290
01:49:48,000 --> 01:49:50,200
Speaker 4: Oh? Let me see?

2291
01:49:52,760 --> 01:49:58,400
Speaker 3: Because I feel like I got something and it's be born.

2292
01:49:58,520 --> 01:49:58,680
Speaker 2: Bro.

2293
01:50:02,000 --> 01:50:03,080
Speaker 4: I need some excitement.

2294
01:50:03,720 --> 01:50:06,559
Speaker 3: That's why I wanted to go to Australia, right, because

2295
01:50:06,640 --> 01:50:08,360
Speaker 3: I mean I could have found Dallas and all this

2296
01:50:08,439 --> 01:50:09,960
Speaker 3: and that, and I ain't want to go through all

2297
01:50:10,040 --> 01:50:13,880
Speaker 3: the people ask for tikeys right right, man, Bro, my

2298
01:50:13,960 --> 01:50:16,240
Speaker 3: fights I begin I fighting Dallas. I'll be getting on

2299
01:50:16,360 --> 01:50:18,760
Speaker 3: like forty to fifty tis. And I don't even talk

2300
01:50:18,800 --> 01:50:22,599
Speaker 3: to forty fifty people. I talked to probably five people.

2301
01:50:22,640 --> 01:50:26,000
Speaker 2: Bro. If that like rotation, huh you rotate with about

2302
01:50:26,000 --> 01:50:26,960
Speaker 2: five people.

2303
01:50:26,800 --> 01:50:30,120
Speaker 3: Man, and including them five people my mom and my daddy.

2304
01:50:30,120 --> 01:50:32,360
Speaker 3: Is like, I'm not talking to people like that, my mom,

2305
01:50:32,439 --> 01:50:36,040
Speaker 3: my dad, and my girl Jordan's and probably one other

2306
01:50:36,080 --> 01:50:41,000
Speaker 3: person like Popcorn or something like tel. Yeah, probably seven people.

2307
01:50:41,040 --> 01:50:41,559
Speaker 4: Brough RJ.

2308
01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:44,240
Speaker 3: Like, I'm not talking to people like that. So and

2309
01:50:44,280 --> 01:50:47,439
Speaker 3: I'm getting just giving our tickets because you know, just people,

2310
01:50:47,840 --> 01:50:52,559
Speaker 3: you know, you ingreding people and all this and that. Yeah,

2311
01:50:52,800 --> 01:50:55,680
Speaker 3: I ain't seen all there, like people coming from New

2312
01:50:55,760 --> 01:50:58,400
Speaker 3: York and all there like you're just getting people tickets.

2313
01:50:58,760 --> 01:51:00,320
Speaker 4: And I was like, ain't nobody on to.

2314
01:51:00,320 --> 01:51:04,840
Speaker 3: Australia, right, Yeah, y'all like doing that. You really coming

2315
01:51:04,840 --> 01:51:08,439
Speaker 3: to Australia, you really want to come? So I got you. Yeah, so,

2316
01:51:09,000 --> 01:51:13,479
Speaker 3: but man, I just feel like I know that, you know,

2317
01:51:13,520 --> 01:51:17,960
Speaker 3: I got a lot of left, and for me, it's

2318
01:51:18,040 --> 01:51:20,639
Speaker 3: not I don't I'm not gonna give it all the boxing,

2319
01:51:21,439 --> 01:51:24,240
Speaker 3: you know, it's really a fight by fight basis. I

2320
01:51:24,320 --> 01:51:27,439
Speaker 3: might be done after this, you know, It's just it's

2321
01:51:27,479 --> 01:51:31,920
Speaker 3: just all depends, you know, training camp, training camp, man

2322
01:51:32,000 --> 01:51:35,439
Speaker 3: training camp. Ain't really I still got eight weeks, eight week,

2323
01:51:35,880 --> 01:51:41,080
Speaker 3: eight weeks left, and I'm like, bro, I've been thinking

2324
01:51:41,080 --> 01:51:45,960
Speaker 3: about vacation spots, wrong going. I've been telling my girl like,

2325
01:51:46,000 --> 01:51:48,280
Speaker 3: hey man, we go here, we go there like.

2326
01:51:48,880 --> 01:51:51,040
Speaker 2: We fin did. That's how you know you're getting older?

2327
01:51:51,040 --> 01:51:52,120
Speaker 3: Brother, Yeah, it's.

2328
01:51:52,000 --> 01:51:52,880
Speaker 4: Like getting older.

2329
01:51:52,960 --> 01:51:55,439
Speaker 3: Like the first of this year, Bro, i'dne been like

2330
01:51:55,840 --> 01:51:58,640
Speaker 3: four or five different places, like I went to I

2331
01:51:58,720 --> 01:52:01,360
Speaker 3: went to Same Martin and I've been to dr I've

2332
01:52:01,400 --> 01:52:06,240
Speaker 3: been a Ruber like two three more other places, you know.

2333
01:52:06,479 --> 01:52:09,920
Speaker 3: But I'm just telling like, yo, we're finnsah go We're

2334
01:52:09,960 --> 01:52:13,800
Speaker 3: gonna go somewhere. But for me, Bro, I just want

2335
01:52:13,800 --> 01:52:16,720
Speaker 3: to sit and embrace the moment, bro, because I know

2336
01:52:17,439 --> 01:52:20,080
Speaker 3: this is up one day, it's over one day, and

2337
01:52:20,160 --> 01:52:23,960
Speaker 3: it's not coming back, and I don't want to be

2338
01:52:24,120 --> 01:52:26,840
Speaker 3: ten years down the line, like man, like I should

2339
01:52:26,840 --> 01:52:29,719
Speaker 3: have enjoyed it more. I should have really embraced it more.

2340
01:52:30,479 --> 01:52:34,519
Speaker 3: So you know, this time, I'm going fully embrace it.

2341
01:52:36,520 --> 01:52:39,040
Speaker 3: You know, live one hundred percent. You know what I'm

2342
01:52:39,040 --> 01:52:41,479
Speaker 3: saying to what I say, I'm going to do, and

2343
01:52:41,680 --> 01:52:44,800
Speaker 3: just you know, and just be in it and just

2344
01:52:44,800 --> 01:52:48,160
Speaker 3: just just look at everything, embrace everything and just take

2345
01:52:48,280 --> 01:52:51,360
Speaker 3: everything in. Yeah, and I know I got a lot left,

2346
01:52:51,439 --> 01:52:54,519
Speaker 3: but you know, like you said, you're not trying to

2347
01:52:54,560 --> 01:52:59,040
Speaker 3: leave everything. You know, like he's seeing me spar drings like, man,

2348
01:52:59,080 --> 01:53:00,960
Speaker 3: you still got a lot of it in the tank, Bro.

2349
01:53:01,520 --> 01:53:03,519
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, but I'm not trying to get

2350
01:53:03,560 --> 01:53:07,000
Speaker 3: them everything that's in the tank. So you just got

2351
01:53:07,000 --> 01:53:10,559
Speaker 3: to know when to when to fold them. And well,

2352
01:53:10,880 --> 01:53:14,160
Speaker 3: we'll definitely see. But I'm excited about this, Bro.

2353
01:53:14,200 --> 01:53:14,679
Speaker 4: I'm e sorried.

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01:53:14,720 --> 01:53:17,360
Speaker 3: It's like it's kind of like a pro debut kind

2355
01:53:17,360 --> 01:53:20,599
Speaker 3: of you know, I ain't find so long and uh,

2356
01:53:20,800 --> 01:53:23,000
Speaker 3: people keep asking me wrong. You take a tune up,

2357
01:53:23,040 --> 01:53:24,439
Speaker 3: aren't you like?

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01:53:24,600 --> 01:53:24,760
Speaker 2: Bro?

2359
01:53:24,960 --> 01:53:27,080
Speaker 3: Like I don't want to tune up? Bro?

2360
01:53:27,479 --> 01:53:28,320
Speaker 2: You never did it?

2361
01:53:28,640 --> 01:53:30,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I never done it. Bro. I feel like I

2362
01:53:30,920 --> 01:53:34,519
Speaker 3: take a tune of I'm gonna take I'm not gonna

2363
01:53:34,560 --> 01:53:38,920
Speaker 3: take training lightly. But I don't know. It's just it's

2364
01:53:38,960 --> 01:53:42,000
Speaker 3: a difference when you know, like I think they got

2365
01:53:42,040 --> 01:53:43,559
Speaker 3: me down on the oys or something.

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01:53:44,479 --> 01:53:46,400
Speaker 4: So you know that excited me.

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01:53:46,479 --> 01:53:46,599
Speaker 2: Bro.

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01:53:47,040 --> 01:53:49,040
Speaker 4: They get me pumped up like they doubted me.

2369
01:53:49,120 --> 01:53:51,240
Speaker 3: So I love the doubts because they had all the

2370
01:53:51,360 --> 01:53:54,120
Speaker 3: doubts with the day Togard see it with the WHO guys.

2371
01:53:54,160 --> 01:53:56,280
Speaker 3: You know they were saying I'm a shell on myself.

2372
01:53:56,880 --> 01:53:59,880
Speaker 3: You know they're saying this, saying that, So that just

2373
01:54:00,200 --> 01:54:04,400
Speaker 3: me more excited to show everybody that you know, I

2374
01:54:04,479 --> 01:54:05,599
Speaker 3: am who I say I am.

2375
01:54:05,960 --> 01:54:08,280
Speaker 1: Still got that fired though, I see I said I

2376
01:54:08,360 --> 01:54:11,040
Speaker 1: seen it in the UH And then when you all

2377
01:54:11,080 --> 01:54:13,479
Speaker 1: announced the fight, you know you still you still got that,

2378
01:54:13,680 --> 01:54:14,639
Speaker 1: you still got that fire.

2379
01:54:14,760 --> 01:54:16,320
Speaker 2: You try to try to shake your hand and you

2380
01:54:16,320 --> 01:54:17,639
Speaker 2: have to let him know like, nah, we ain't gonna

2381
01:54:17,640 --> 01:54:17,920
Speaker 2: do that.

2382
01:54:18,320 --> 01:54:20,360
Speaker 4: No, that fire you're gonna do that.

2383
01:54:20,400 --> 01:54:21,840
Speaker 2: You ain't gonna be You ain't gonna you ain't gonna

2384
01:54:21,840 --> 01:54:23,479
Speaker 2: bump on the online and then try to.

2385
01:54:24,840 --> 01:54:28,160
Speaker 3: I was good to see he told me because it

2386
01:54:28,240 --> 01:54:31,040
Speaker 3: might have been because I just seen where he told

2387
01:54:31,080 --> 01:54:35,200
Speaker 3: me he gonna do me like fun door did Keith Urn.

2388
01:54:36,080 --> 01:54:39,480
Speaker 3: And I'm like, bro, like what, I'm like, all right?

2389
01:54:39,720 --> 01:54:42,600
Speaker 3: And then he's trying to be all you know, I'm like, nah, Bro,

2390
01:54:42,680 --> 01:54:46,120
Speaker 3: we're not doing that. Bro, Like nah, this ain't that.

2391
01:54:46,320 --> 01:54:47,920
Speaker 4: Bro like this that.

2392
01:54:48,080 --> 01:54:50,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, this ain't that. Bro, Like you got to say

2393
01:54:50,920 --> 01:54:53,880
Speaker 3: you say you're gonna do this, You're gonna do that, Broyeah,

2394
01:54:53,960 --> 01:54:54,840
Speaker 3: We're gonna handle it.

2395
01:54:55,960 --> 01:54:56,880
Speaker 2: I love to see it. Bro.

2396
01:54:57,560 --> 01:55:02,360
Speaker 1: Man, Listen, brother, I appreciate you, man. I appreciate you, bro,

2397
01:55:02,480 --> 01:55:07,920
Speaker 1: Like it's so many things about you that you know.

2398
01:55:08,000 --> 01:55:10,160
Speaker 1: Your life is a book, man, and it's still the

2399
01:55:10,360 --> 01:55:11,200
Speaker 1: chapter still.

2400
01:55:11,000 --> 01:55:16,960
Speaker 2: Being written, you know. And I appreciate how your rise.

2401
01:55:17,040 --> 01:55:19,480
Speaker 1: I appreciate how you was on top, and I appreciate

2402
01:55:19,520 --> 01:55:23,120
Speaker 1: how you dealt with not being on top, probably more

2403
01:55:23,160 --> 01:55:26,240
Speaker 1: than you being on top, because we don't see that.

2404
01:55:26,320 --> 01:55:29,600
Speaker 1: We don't see cats like sticking that out. We don't

2405
01:55:29,640 --> 01:55:34,600
Speaker 1: see cats finding theyself and reinventing theyself and pressing in

2406
01:55:34,640 --> 01:55:36,800
Speaker 1: further to their family and pressing in further to their

2407
01:55:36,840 --> 01:55:39,960
Speaker 1: faith and just being better after something like that happening,

2408
01:55:40,000 --> 01:55:42,080
Speaker 1: you didn't have one hardship after the next. Bro, You're

2409
01:55:42,080 --> 01:55:44,920
Speaker 1: still standing and you're still here to talk about it.

2410
01:55:44,920 --> 01:55:45,120
Speaker 2: Brother.

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01:55:45,200 --> 01:55:47,120
Speaker 1: So I just appreciate you, man, And I know a

2412
01:55:47,120 --> 01:55:49,000
Speaker 1: lot of people are gonna get a lot from this interview, man,

2413
01:55:49,040 --> 01:55:51,280
Speaker 1: because we can't just show when we're up.

2414
01:55:51,640 --> 01:55:54,120
Speaker 2: We can't just show when the money good and I'm

2415
01:55:54,160 --> 01:55:55,400
Speaker 2: on top. Man, When you when.

2416
01:55:55,280 --> 01:55:58,839
Speaker 1: Life start lifing and stuff start happening, who are you?

2417
01:55:59,240 --> 01:56:02,040
Speaker 1: And I appreciate you. You showing the world who you

2418
01:56:02,120 --> 01:56:02,520
Speaker 1: still are.

2419
01:56:02,600 --> 01:56:02,800
Speaker 2: Brother.

2420
01:56:02,880 --> 01:56:06,720
Speaker 1: So man, you got my support for life, bro, and beautiful,

2421
01:56:06,720 --> 01:56:07,440
Speaker 1: beautiful story.

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01:56:07,480 --> 01:56:07,680
Speaker 2: Man.

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01:56:10,920 --> 01:56:15,720
Speaker 1: That's it, man, another great episode. As I keep saying,

2424
01:56:15,720 --> 01:56:18,360
Speaker 1: we're gonna contain to have real conversations with real people.

2425
01:56:18,640 --> 01:56:21,160
Speaker 1: These are athletes, these are public figures, all of that

2426
01:56:21,200 --> 01:56:23,560
Speaker 1: good stuff, but they're humans and they're real people, and

2427
01:56:23,600 --> 01:56:25,680
Speaker 1: that's why we talk about real things. I appreciate y'all

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01:56:25,680 --> 01:56:27,480
Speaker 1: tuning in for another episode of the Art Award