WEBVTT - 2017 Dalton Scale

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<v Speaker 1>The Around the NFL Podcast. Wayme's t D for the

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<v Speaker 1>Move the Sticks Podcast. Welcome back to another edition of

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<v Speaker 1>the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm joined by room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler,

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Westling and Greg Roseatal. What's up boys? Ow, it's Thursday?

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<v Speaker 1>T G I G. I mean t something like something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. What's up? What's up? Everybody? West back in

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<v Speaker 1>the chair? Good to see again, buddy, good to be back.

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<v Speaker 1>How are things going? How about a little Chris Westling

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<v Speaker 1>health update? Maybe we have to cook up a sound

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<v Speaker 1>drop for happen for now, just the straight up last update.

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<v Speaker 1>I am. I am really looking forward to your cancer drop. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's coming, It's coming. I started chemo and radiation this week.

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<v Speaker 1>Radiation is ten minutes a day every Monday through Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>Chemo is once a week. I feel good. The medicines

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<v Speaker 1>are in. The technology is so good now that they

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<v Speaker 1>really nausea is not much a factor. I think once

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<v Speaker 1>they ramp up the treatments, I'll start to feel more

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<v Speaker 1>more fatigue. But they want me to exercise as much

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<v Speaker 1>as possible. I'll be playing softball with the shield tonight

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel good, I feel strong. Everything's going well,

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<v Speaker 1>and the paramore has been by my side, taking notes,

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<v Speaker 1>asking all the questions, recording all the doctors. Meeting has

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<v Speaker 1>been a big been a big support system for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Here comes the broad. He's been an m v P.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, and you're I mean, you're feeling good enough

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<v Speaker 1>that you know you had the treatment on Tuesday. You

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<v Speaker 1>were back in the office on a very slow O

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<v Speaker 1>t a Wednesday yesterday. At one point I think because

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<v Speaker 1>of the news that was coming in, you were just like,

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<v Speaker 1>I picked the right time a year to get cancer.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, there's nothing going on. It's part of

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<v Speaker 1>my new my new favorite genre. West makes jokes about cancer.

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<v Speaker 1>Once you're yeah, I mean it sucks, um, I I

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<v Speaker 1>assumed to be diagnosed with cancer. But the one positive

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<v Speaker 1>of it is you can start just up and out,

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<v Speaker 1>ramping up your cancer bits and you could say whatever

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<v Speaker 1>you want as you do. You have it well, I

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<v Speaker 1>like playing the cancer card. That's that's been fun for me,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, get out of a few things. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>been all right. You were saying, the radiation, the little

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<v Speaker 1>ten minute treatments that sometimes you just sit back and

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<v Speaker 1>relax and yeah, I put my arm behind my head

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<v Speaker 1>because the radiation is going right into my chest. And

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<v Speaker 1>they play a little Bob Marley for ten minutes and

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<v Speaker 1>I space out and I'm out of there. You sent

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<v Speaker 1>out a photo and Greg got a good comment on

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook basically that you, underneath line back getting the treatment

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<v Speaker 1>underneath blankets looked more manly than most any of us

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<v Speaker 1>would ever look it. Just you still somehow looked like

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<v Speaker 1>a gigantic, amazing man. I was speaking for myself essentially there,

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<v Speaker 1>but checked out. Wait, so let me just Le'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>picture it. So you're laying back, arms above your head,

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<v Speaker 1>tucked behind uh right behind your ears. I like it,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, appropriate time for that. So there's the West update,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's playing center field for the Shield today. We

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<v Speaker 1>need to win two straight losses. Um. I I took

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<v Speaker 1>the wife to a band of horses concert last Thursday,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, you know, I left Greg and charge and

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<v Speaker 1>you know a sloppy loss. Wow, First of all, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not even accurate. West was our acting manager, and West

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<v Speaker 1>made a beautiful uh shoe string sliding catch out there

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<v Speaker 1>in center field. Keep deflecting Donald job game, losing streak.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone is involved. Cabs we gotta we gotta this. It

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<v Speaker 1>was this time last year, by the way that I

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<v Speaker 1>tried to put it on me. I suspended David Eally

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<v Speaker 1>uh for skipping out of a game to watch Game

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<v Speaker 1>one of the NBA Finals, which starts tonight. Uh. And

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<v Speaker 1>I do have to say if there is not a win,

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<v Speaker 1>if we do not win tonight and we lose our

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<v Speaker 1>third game in the row, there will be consequences people

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<v Speaker 1>on the roster. I like it. I gotta shake things up.

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<v Speaker 1>I was four for four last week's skip. Well, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be I'm gonna be watching everyone very closely. Put

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<v Speaker 1>it that way. We do have a good luck charm today,

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<v Speaker 1>Mama Wesley and flying in from Cincinnati just before game time.

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<v Speaker 1>A little bit of pressure on you. Definitely a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of pressure. When my dad came to a game

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<v Speaker 1>a few weeks ago and it was like my third

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<v Speaker 1>and fat and uh. I was, you know, focusing on

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<v Speaker 1>the picture and then all of a sudden, I here

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<v Speaker 1>come on, Danny rappit and I was I was like

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<v Speaker 1>thrown back as an eleven year old and the Little League.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh so maybe your mom will be drinking wine coolers

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, yet tending up. Well, yeah, that's how

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<v Speaker 1>I remember her at my games, drinking Bartles and James

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<v Speaker 1>and and hanging out with the loud moms. We'll be

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<v Speaker 1>in the stands with so I'll make sure she has

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<v Speaker 1>a drink in hand. At very good we got the

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<v Speaker 1>uh uh erstwhile GM as well. So we're flying here.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh big show today, you know it's a big show.

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<v Speaker 1>We're bringing back the Dalton scale. Whoa oho, the Dalton

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<v Speaker 1>scaleen uh, in which we decide who is west what

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<v Speaker 1>who is because I don't understand primary radiant of quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 1>If any Dalton is right in the middle, that means

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<v Speaker 1>if your quarterback is ranked ahead of him, you've got

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<v Speaker 1>a franchise quarterback. You're set. If your quarterback is ranked

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<v Speaker 1>behind him, you need an answer, you need a solution.

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<v Speaker 1>We do this every year. This is the third year

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<v Speaker 1>we've done it. Um Andy Dalton was the face of

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<v Speaker 1>mediocrity or that that middle gray area for for many years.

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<v Speaker 1>Last year we had collectively decided Alex Smith was the

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<v Speaker 1>more fitting person there. So we'll figure out who is

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<v Speaker 1>in that spot, that primar ridian spot, and then we'll

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<v Speaker 1>figure out who's around that spot, who's above Who's Who's

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<v Speaker 1>Who's a franchise quarterback? That's the question. That is the key,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what all teams are looking for, uh, is

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<v Speaker 1>a franchise quarterback. So all gms will be tuned in

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<v Speaker 1>very closely to this podcast. I'm sure. Also, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do uh some news, so we're gonna have some fun

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<v Speaker 1>and uh. Before we get going, I want to say

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<v Speaker 1>hi to Sully behind the glass us. What's up, bud

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<v Speaker 1>Hi Fellers are you today? Colors doing well? What is

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<v Speaker 1>uh you? You did a great job in the first show,

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate it taking over in your Dan Campbell role for Sydney.

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<v Speaker 1>And now Dan Campbell won his first game if you remember, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was all bro hugs and um, you know, puffing

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<v Speaker 1>out their chest and being all proud of themselves. And

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<v Speaker 1>that Dolphins team then went in the tank. If you recall,

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<v Speaker 1>Dan didn't come back. So you're looking to avoid that fate,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh certainly, yeah, yeah, we want to keep those bro

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<v Speaker 1>hugs going. Already drawing the parallel to Dan Campbell. If

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<v Speaker 1>that's what Dan Campbell did with the Dolphins, between that

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<v Speaker 1>coach and and Sully, that seems very ominous that it's

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<v Speaker 1>all down him for Sully, I mean Sally Wood. Sally

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<v Speaker 1>would do so well to be looking like Dan Campbell.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just by the way, wearing wearing a podcast park

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<v Speaker 1>of Today, one that we all own, but ours are

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<v Speaker 1>adorned with the around the NFL logo. His move the sticks.

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<v Speaker 1>I was only given one. I was only given one

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<v Speaker 1>quarters up. It's a bit of an allegiance issue that

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<v Speaker 1>we're working through. But I'm putting Sully's professionalism above all,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm not I'm not going to be ignored. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>do some news. Fine me, waiter man, fine me, water

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<v Speaker 1>everything to me. It's Tack McKinley, of course, the star

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<v Speaker 1>of the first round of the NFL draft when he

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<v Speaker 1>brought a picture frame poster of his deceased grandmother after

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<v Speaker 1>being drafted overall by the Falcons. Made some more news

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<v Speaker 1>today which I enjoyed. Uh. He posted on Instagram a

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<v Speaker 1>video dancing and celebrating the fact that he just went

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<v Speaker 1>from being dirt porter a millionaire. I like this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Like this Tach mckill. I hope he can play as

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<v Speaker 1>much as he entertains, uh in his rookie campaign. We'll say, now,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk some news and We'll start with a big trade. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a trade and it's the it's the most depressing

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<v Speaker 1>kind of trade. A trade between the Jets and the

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<v Speaker 1>Browns um as the two teams swap um. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what's a nice way to call these

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<v Speaker 1>these two players to Marry O'Davis and Calvin Pryor underachiever

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<v Speaker 1>one is an underachiever prior former first round pick to

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<v Speaker 1>Mario Davis is kind of just a guy at most

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<v Speaker 1>the linebackers. So you saw the rare one for one

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<v Speaker 1>trade with Calvin Pryor going to the Browns uh and

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow Davis, who was a former Jet coming back to

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<v Speaker 1>New York. Uh. The browns Uh later confirmed the trade agreement.

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<v Speaker 1>And because Sashy Brown loves for people to know what

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<v Speaker 1>Sashy Brown thinks about things, uh, there was a missive

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<v Speaker 1>sent out by Mr. Brown. Calvin is a young, experienced

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<v Speaker 1>safety that has upside. We are pleased to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to add him to our defensive back room, and just

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<v Speaker 1>like every player we acquire, we expect him to come

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<v Speaker 1>in with a hard working mindset, ready to compete to

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<v Speaker 1>Mario is a guy that we developed the utmost respect

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<v Speaker 1>for in his time with our team, not only as

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<v Speaker 1>a professional but also as a person. We appreciate all

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<v Speaker 1>he did for our organization in his time in Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 1>Sashi went to Harvard. I believe so, Sashi, it's safety

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<v Speaker 1>who has upside, not safety that has wrote it. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. Can I just say something, you know, keep talking.

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<v Speaker 1>Calvin Pryor is terrible. I'm just gonna be honest with

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<v Speaker 1>to use a bad player a year ago at this time,

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<v Speaker 1>it should be pointed out you were very high on him,

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<v Speaker 1>he was going to be very good. I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to point that out not true. We we got into

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<v Speaker 1>a little thing that you you said that you had

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<v Speaker 1>some high you hired high Calvin Brack. I also got

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<v Speaker 1>publicly roasted by Calvin Pryor on Twitter for suggesting that

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't quite a superstar at that stage of the season.

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<v Speaker 1>He had a bad year and then he has a

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<v Speaker 1>promising year, and then he was, uh, the worst safety

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<v Speaker 1>on a team with terrible safeties last year. You could

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<v Speaker 1>check the check the tape. Uh. And I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to make the point that some of the talking like, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the Browns are making another Patriots move taking somebody's old

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<v Speaker 1>first round have fun with Calvin Pryoris, who is saying

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<v Speaker 1>I read that in multiple places where I mean honestly

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<v Speaker 1>that I think this trade is exactly how we've It's

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<v Speaker 1>two it's two teams struggling to build a roster. No

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<v Speaker 1>one is praising the Browns for getting a safety that

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<v Speaker 1>the Jets don't want, and no one's praising the Jets

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<v Speaker 1>for getting a linebacker back that they didn't even try

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<v Speaker 1>to resign. Say, it's a non issue move, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a big deal. Both teams had a need at the position.

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<v Speaker 1>The Browns need safeties. They'll give him a shot. It

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<v Speaker 1>was not guaranteed to make the roster. And also, if

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna spend all this time on Sashy Brown and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll go work with I'll work for Sully next time.

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<v Speaker 1>But Mike mccagnet, who was a Glory who was a

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<v Speaker 1>Glory boy about a year ago, has sunk this team

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<v Speaker 1>into the ground. He has He has a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>to answer for than Sashy Brown, who has helped a

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<v Speaker 1>crew massive amount of draft picks. Amazing that amazing one

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<v Speaker 1>and fifteen season mark. Yes, he's doing amazing worker. You

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<v Speaker 1>can say that, but honestly, you don't the Browns have

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<v Speaker 1>done a nice job. You're turning this into like a

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<v Speaker 1>Brown's verse Jets. I was, I was certain. I was

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<v Speaker 1>just pointing out that the Browns are getting a bum

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<v Speaker 1>and the Jets getting a bum back as well, the

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<v Speaker 1>multiple ways the friend there you go, doesn't Mark? Is

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<v Speaker 1>there any chance that the Browns Greg Williams sees Calvin

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<v Speaker 1>Pryor is his new Mark Barron where he'll he'll be

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<v Speaker 1>playing that hybrid linebacker safety rule. I saw. I saw

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<v Speaker 1>that also, but I don't see that being true until

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<v Speaker 1>Calvin Pryor proves anything on the field. I just think

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<v Speaker 1>it's a low stakes trade. Right. They are very thin

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<v Speaker 1>at linebacker now, but Davis didn't quite fit. They're very

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<v Speaker 1>thin as safety. The best way I would categorize this

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<v Speaker 1>trade is if it happened on the fifth day of

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<v Speaker 1>free agency or the third day of the draft, it

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<v Speaker 1>would have not made our podcast. It would have not

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<v Speaker 1>been big enough news to make our podcast because those

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<v Speaker 1>were busy times. Now you knows it's Brown's Jets and

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<v Speaker 1>and now I got I'm not it's what we got

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<v Speaker 1>here on June. Well, no, continue on. It's just like

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<v Speaker 1>if you you put all this pre production into selling

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<v Speaker 1>the Browns down the river. The Jets are no pretty

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<v Speaker 1>picture either. I mean, like Mike mccagnet has a lot

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<v Speaker 1>to answer for what I'm the guy. I'm coming for

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<v Speaker 1>your corner, buddy, I'm a coming for you. I am

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<v Speaker 1>the lowest guy in the totem pole. Now I'm excited

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<v Speaker 1>about it. Not Yes, we're scamming for Sam. Baby can't

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<v Speaker 1>have that too. So it's not like I'm saying, Oh, Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>can't I'm coming, baby. You can't have that too from you.

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<v Speaker 1>You have you have to suffer through it to get it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm coming is not going to just get handed to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan in May and June West has never been happier

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<v Speaker 1>with his decision to not root for an NFL Who's

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<v Speaker 1>Who's thirty one and who's thirty two? Uh? Moving on,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, very listen. I should have seen that coming,

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<v Speaker 1>but I didn't. And I apologize, Mark. My GM had

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<v Speaker 1>a horrible year two. Your GM is getting a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of accolades. That's all right, now, you know what I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>I have nothing else to say on the matter. Moving on,

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Jones, WHOA what a swift fall from Matt Jones Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the running back who has once seen is maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>future guy on the Redskins in the backfield. Mike Silver

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<v Speaker 1>reported Thursday that Jones has been told by coach j

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<v Speaker 1>Gruten that Gruten that he's now the team's number five

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<v Speaker 1>running back. UM motivating at least part of the man's

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<v Speaker 1>decision to stay away from O t As. Uh. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>see who else is on that list of running backs?

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<v Speaker 1>Rob Kelly, Uh, someone's gonna help me with this one.

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<v Speaker 1>Samash Perene might be their Week one starter. Chris Thompson,

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<v Speaker 1>Mac Brown uh and Keith Marshall. And speaking of Rob Kelly,

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<v Speaker 1>known by many as fat Rob Kelly, he has done

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<v Speaker 1>some work cutting his body fat from eighteen percent totent

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<v Speaker 1>this offseason. A nice little offseason trope there. Uh. Kelly

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<v Speaker 1>says he feels more explosive, explosive, faster, blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 1>Wes Matt Jones, Are you surprised how far he's fallen

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<v Speaker 1>in this time? No, I'm not. I know Greg is,

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<v Speaker 1>but I am not surprised, And I'm not surprised that

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<v Speaker 1>Rob Kelly feels the need to lose some weight and

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<v Speaker 1>uh he feels somaj Peeren on his on his back

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<v Speaker 1>because the last six games of last season, Rob Kelly

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<v Speaker 1>averaged less than three point three yards per carry. Their

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<v Speaker 1>running game, which looks strong at mid season, faltered down

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<v Speaker 1>the stretch. Somaja p Ryan's basically a more athletic version

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<v Speaker 1>of Rob Kelly, like when we did when I did

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<v Speaker 1>that projected Starter series, I put him as the starter

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<v Speaker 1>just because I think they they send a message drafting him.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm surprised about Matt Jones because it is worth mentioning

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<v Speaker 1>he averaged four point six yards per carry last year

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<v Speaker 1>in carries, he broke a lot of tackles. Uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's averaged fourteen yards per catch in his career. He's

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<v Speaker 1>made place. He's just fumbled a lot. He didn't fumble

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<v Speaker 1>a lot last year, really, but he did in a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of key spots twice in one game, and they

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<v Speaker 1>never looked back. I think it's a personal thing, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's also a reminder that coaches lie through their teeth.

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<v Speaker 1>Because Jay Gruden, the first time he didn't show up

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<v Speaker 1>to O t A s acted surprised, and the reporting

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<v Speaker 1>since and and other whispers I've heard are that that

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<v Speaker 1>was a total fabrication that he had met with Jay

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<v Speaker 1>Gruden before that, and they both knew exactly what was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna happen, and he got the you know, idea that

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<v Speaker 1>he basically wasn't part of the picture, and he decided

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<v Speaker 1>must screw that. Cut me and other running back news.

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<v Speaker 1>The Awakening is awake once more. Let's call it awakening

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<v Speaker 1>five point oh. Christen Michael has signed with the Indianapolis Colts.

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<v Speaker 1>Michael who spent last season with the Seahawks, he finishes

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<v Speaker 1>the team's leading rusher, uh and then a short stint

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<v Speaker 1>with the Packers that didn't ultimately work out. Now he

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<v Speaker 1>lands with the Colts. West. You wrote about this, you

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<v Speaker 1>believe that if Kristen Michael is going to get a

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<v Speaker 1>job on the first day of June, he led it

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<v Speaker 1>in a pretty good spot. I think this was the

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<v Speaker 1>best possible scenario for him. A backfield that desperately needs

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<v Speaker 1>speed and playmaking ability with Frank Gore who had basically

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<v Speaker 1>fewer big plays than any starting running back in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>their backup running back Robert Turbin is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>slowest backups in the NFL. They do have Marlon Mack,

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<v Speaker 1>who's a rookie, but maybe they don't want to put

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<v Speaker 1>all their marbles in that bank. So Kristin Michael is

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<v Speaker 1>going to get a chance, I think, to make this

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<v Speaker 1>team and to have a pretty significant role. We've been

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<v Speaker 1>down this road forty to fifty times at this point

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<v Speaker 1>with Kristen Michael, and he's been in good situations before

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<v Speaker 1>where they've given him prime opportunities to prove that he

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<v Speaker 1>can be a week to week starter. And it refuses

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<v Speaker 1>to click anywhere. And it must be his ability. It

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<v Speaker 1>must be stu ability to retain the playbook and other

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<v Speaker 1>stuff and other stuff as well. It's not just his

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<v Speaker 1>athletic ability. Well, he miss mental errors, he misreads holes

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<v Speaker 1>at the line of scrimmage, and he's not an asset

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<v Speaker 1>in the passing game. That said, it's on tape in September.

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<v Speaker 1>In early October last year, he ran better than any

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<v Speaker 1>Seattle running back. I West. You know, I I feel

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<v Speaker 1>that you were an excellent writer and you did a

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<v Speaker 1>very good job on this piece on NFL dot Com.

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<v Speaker 1>But I will take issue with your final paragraph. After

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<v Speaker 1>watching the Seahawks, Packers, Cowboys, and Redskins failed to unleash

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<v Speaker 1>Michael's athletic explosiveness over the past few seasons. How about

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<v Speaker 1>Kristin Michael accountability. He failed those teams and failed they

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<v Speaker 1>gave him a shot. He just can't seem to stick

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<v Speaker 1>around anywhere. But part of the equation is coaching and development,

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<v Speaker 1>so you think he has yet to find I think

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<v Speaker 1>right staff to to bring it out of him at

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<v Speaker 1>this point. I think he was ultimately scapegoated in Seattle

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<v Speaker 1>last year. Did any running back with that offensive line

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<v Speaker 1>they had early in the season and Russell Wilson not

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<v Speaker 1>a threat to run on a high ankle spring, no

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<v Speaker 1>running back was gonna do well. He was scapegoaded and

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<v Speaker 1>no running back really did better than him in Seattle

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the something's going on though, that didn't

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<v Speaker 1>work with the Packers, and uh, I mean, he's got

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<v Speaker 1>a shot here. But I'm surprised personally that Chris Ballard

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<v Speaker 1>and I think he just had so much to do

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<v Speaker 1>on his wish list this year. I think if he

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<v Speaker 1>had all the draft picks and the money of the world,

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<v Speaker 1>he would have done a more to upgrade the spot

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<v Speaker 1>next to Gore, because I think they like having Gore,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think the less Gore for them probably the

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<v Speaker 1>more effects. I also don't know particularly know if I

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<v Speaker 1>trust Chuck Bagano's staff over that of the Seahawks or

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys or the Packers. Moving on, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>have to say this about offensive lineman NFL offensive lineman.

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<v Speaker 1>If you had to pick who you wanted to be

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<v Speaker 1>if you were an NFL player, maybe wouldn't pick those

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<v Speaker 1>guys because they're kind of the grunts. They're the big dudes.

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<v Speaker 1>They I'm sure they do well with with the ladies,

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<v Speaker 1>but maybe it's it's more fun to be a saucy

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback or running back or wide receiver. But I'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>you what, all right, great, by the way, what are

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<v Speaker 1>you looking for? But I was picking something up. Continue

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<v Speaker 1>on at least ones to show something like this happening

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<v Speaker 1>on over there every every show. But offensive lineman. Those

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<v Speaker 1>guys have fun. I feel like if I wanted to,

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<v Speaker 1>uh go out for a day out or a night out,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd probably go out with a lineman. And I bring

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<v Speaker 1>this up because the Tennessee Titans offensive line has started

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<v Speaker 1>a tradition I don't know how plugged. And you guys

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<v Speaker 1>are in the Stanley Cup Finals. Not very big Predators

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<v Speaker 1>fan right here, the Preads. The Preds are in the

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<v Speaker 1>in the Finals against the Pittsburgh Penguins. Right now they're

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<v Speaker 1>down to oh and things aren't looking good. But the

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<v Speaker 1>Titans linemen have started a tradition where they all go

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<v Speaker 1>to the game together. They were matching jerseys. Um, they

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<v Speaker 1>hoist uh fresh fresh catfish in their bare hands and

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<v Speaker 1>then slug giant beers and pour the beers down the

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<v Speaker 1>gullets of the dead catfish and the wholk they put

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<v Speaker 1>the put them on the jumbo trown and the crowd

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<v Speaker 1>goes nuts. That's pretty fun. I mean stupid is there too? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the star right next to him. He's doing You'll

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<v Speaker 1>notice he's very quarterbacks and all these basics. He's standing

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<v Speaker 1>there smiling. Uh. And just because it was down the beer. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I have not seen him chugging any of the videos

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<v Speaker 1>that I've seen. Game three in Nashville on Saturday night,

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<v Speaker 1>you know it's to go off, and I tell her Luan,

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<v Speaker 1>who is a Pro Bowl tackle of course for Tennessee,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's the ringleader all of all this. Uh. He

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<v Speaker 1>gave an interview uh to the local Nashville station and

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<v Speaker 1>talked about it a little bit. Let's here, Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>knew I wanted you the catfish. I started about two

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<v Speaker 1>weeks before the new catfish was the thing. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even know that until the playoffs actually start, and um,

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<v Speaker 1>we get there, I have my catfish. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 1>boys are talking. I'm like, I'm gonna crank a beer.

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<v Speaker 1>After I was like, where, why don't we all just

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<v Speaker 1>drink a beer? It's all crank a beer together, Like

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<v Speaker 1>all right, so I'm the plan. Let's hold the catfish up,

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<v Speaker 1>wait for the crowd to enjoy it, slam the catfish down,

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<v Speaker 1>and then all of us cheers and just cranking. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was just good old fashioned fun, just

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<v Speaker 1>a not to noodling. Do you know what noodling is

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<v Speaker 1>in Tennessee? Sally probably knows what new Yeah, you go,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going, uh, you're you're looking for catfish and there

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<v Speaker 1>are bodes and you're like to kick your hands and

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<v Speaker 1>the actually the like the muddy hut of a catfish

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<v Speaker 1>underwater and I happen out with your hand and you

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<v Speaker 1>could people like lose fingers and stuff. But oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like there was a show about this on

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<v Speaker 1>some Yeah, so that's where this comes from. I think

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<v Speaker 1>where where it comes from as the kind of adapting

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<v Speaker 1>the Detroit octopus octopus and throwing its weird man. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it is is a weird thing Tennessee and Tennessee and

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<v Speaker 1>up the Detroit tradition is what are you plugged in

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<v Speaker 1>on the on the Preds? Yeah with the Preds, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're They've outplayed the Penguins, and I think everybody

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<v Speaker 1>would agree with me for most of this series. But

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<v Speaker 1>other than two five minutes stretches, two minutes five minutes

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<v Speaker 1>stretches where they just gave up a flurry of three

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<v Speaker 1>and four, has anyone on this side of the glass

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<v Speaker 1>watched ten minutes of the NHL Finals. I'm tracking it

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<v Speaker 1>because Damna check is still plugged in with his Penguins.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do like the tailor one is all about cranking. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>this is it's good. It's good for Nashville that they're

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<v Speaker 1>getting a taste of big time sports action because listeners

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<v Speaker 1>will remember since since our bosses won't send us to

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<v Speaker 1>the UK, we've said that they're gonna send us to

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<v Speaker 1>Nashville this year around the NFL podcast Onto Nashville, We're

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<v Speaker 1>going there. So it's a little bit of an appetizer

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<v Speaker 1>before we show up. Well, I don't believe they've signed

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<v Speaker 1>off on that yet either, But no, let's move on.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Rob Gronkowski and welcome to my soon. Oh turn

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<v Speaker 1>this up, Sally. You know you've gotta like it. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what this song, Craig and what does it mean? Greg?

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<v Speaker 1>Panka is back, not not quite, but we're gonna talk

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<v Speaker 1>some Thursday Night football and Prianka celebration music is necessary

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<v Speaker 1>because Mike tarik I was gonna be in the boot

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<v Speaker 1>on a full time capacity. Sports Business Daily reported Wednesday

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<v Speaker 1>at the NFL approved h NBC's request to allow how

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<v Speaker 1>silly that ever came to this, to allow Tarrico allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to Rico, the like borderline or arguably the best guy

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<v Speaker 1>in the business of this, to be the play by

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<v Speaker 1>play announcer for Thursday Night Football, taking Al Michael's place

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<v Speaker 1>alongside Chris Collinsworth. So Collinsworth stays on the Thursday Sunday shift.

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<v Speaker 1>Al Michaels is one and done as a Thursday Sunday guy,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think makes sense for everyone. Tariko from the

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<v Speaker 1>time he jumped from ESPN to NBC made the most sense,

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<v Speaker 1>uh for Thursday Night and now al Michaels, who is

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<v Speaker 1>in his early to mid seventies. At this point can

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<v Speaker 1>go back to just focusing on one game a week.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh win win for everyone, and especially for the Tariko

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<v Speaker 1>fans like me out there, who now can guarantee to

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<v Speaker 1>get Mike. There's maybe the games will be crap, but

0:23:48.440 --> 0:23:51.800
<v Speaker 1>the guy calling him won't be. How was the Tariko

0:23:51.920 --> 0:23:55.480
<v Speaker 1>fan reddit board after this news blew up? It actually crashed.

0:23:55.560 --> 0:23:59.639
<v Speaker 1>You're like the greedy, greedy of Reddit where you're running

0:23:59.680 --> 0:24:02.159
<v Speaker 1>the red boards. Yeah, we were not. A lot of

0:24:02.240 --> 0:24:04.080
<v Speaker 1>us got sleep last night. Put it that way once

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<v Speaker 1>the news came out. So Tarrico will call Thursday football

0:24:07.320 --> 0:24:12.159
<v Speaker 1>and finally I love it. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>should be there for the next twenty five years. I

0:24:13.680 --> 0:24:16.240
<v Speaker 1>don't know if TNF should be, but it should be. Yeah,

0:24:16.280 --> 0:24:19.040
<v Speaker 1>and I think uh al Michael's we all love al too,

0:24:19.080 --> 0:24:21.400
<v Speaker 1>but you know you need to have a succession plan.

0:24:21.640 --> 0:24:24.639
<v Speaker 1>By the way, saw Pianca. If I'm not mistaken in Baywatch,

0:24:24.720 --> 0:24:29.160
<v Speaker 1>went to see Baywatch during my vacation week. You know where?

0:24:29.520 --> 0:24:33.240
<v Speaker 1>You know where that was filmed? Right? Tybee? Baywatch was

0:24:33.280 --> 0:24:35.440
<v Speaker 1>filmed on Tybee. That's why I went to see it. No,

0:24:35.600 --> 0:24:37.800
<v Speaker 1>I because I I had ripped through a bunch of

0:24:37.840 --> 0:24:40.399
<v Speaker 1>movies and it was the only one left. But she

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<v Speaker 1>played if I'm not mistaken. I at one point I

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<v Speaker 1>left for like twenty minutes. It's walking around the movie theater.

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<v Speaker 1>But like um, it's supposed to be a wretched film.

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<v Speaker 1>It's awful but very enjoyable if you go in realizing

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<v Speaker 1>this maybe one of the top worst movie, top five

0:24:54.160 --> 0:24:55.920
<v Speaker 1>horse movies you've ever seen. In it fit that bill

0:24:56.080 --> 0:24:59.200
<v Speaker 1>Mark is full of surprises, but rarely have I been

0:24:59.440 --> 0:25:01.760
<v Speaker 1>Morris eyes by anything coming out of his mouth. Then

0:25:01.920 --> 0:25:04.800
<v Speaker 1>I went to see Baywatch. Our house was under construction.

0:25:04.840 --> 0:25:06.880
<v Speaker 1>I had to leave for like hours at a time,

0:25:07.040 --> 0:25:09.800
<v Speaker 1>and I was doing it a week long staycation, you know,

0:25:09.880 --> 0:25:14.840
<v Speaker 1>so honest, honest. The answer, how much did the hot

0:25:14.840 --> 0:25:17.760
<v Speaker 1>babe factor come into the decision to go? Didn't hurt

0:25:17.760 --> 0:25:19.400
<v Speaker 1>at all. Of course, it helped me get in there.

0:25:19.400 --> 0:25:21.159
<v Speaker 1>But that, I will say that alone is not you

0:25:21.160 --> 0:25:24.080
<v Speaker 1>could get that anywhere. I mean, it's a it's not

0:25:24.119 --> 0:25:26.360
<v Speaker 1>a good reason to spend I think I dropped sixteen

0:25:26.359 --> 0:25:28.720
<v Speaker 1>dollars to get into the theater too. Wow. By the way,

0:25:28.920 --> 0:25:33.840
<v Speaker 1>never the movie, she plays some sort of villains. She's

0:25:33.880 --> 0:25:36.480
<v Speaker 1>like the antagonist in the film. Yeah, she's fine. It's

0:25:36.480 --> 0:25:38.919
<v Speaker 1>like you've seen the same You've seen the role seventeen

0:25:39.000 --> 0:25:42.320
<v Speaker 1>eighteen thousand times before. K Rich once upon a time

0:25:42.400 --> 0:25:44.880
<v Speaker 1>tease the possibility that we could get Prianka in studio,

0:25:46.000 --> 0:25:49.240
<v Speaker 1>but that never happened, and Andrianka then was one and

0:25:49.280 --> 0:25:51.120
<v Speaker 1>done as the voice of Thursday Night. Yeah, we are

0:25:51.119 --> 0:25:54.080
<v Speaker 1>the only people keeping the memory of that great song alive.

0:25:54.160 --> 0:25:57.000
<v Speaker 1>And I'm proud of that. You do love that song. Greg. Finally,

0:25:57.560 --> 0:26:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Dez Bryant Uh at Cowboys O t as Uh this week.

0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:04.840
<v Speaker 1>Uh I was talking about driving fast because the Indie

0:26:04.840 --> 0:26:07.119
<v Speaker 1>five winner a lot of sports, a lot of different

0:26:07.160 --> 0:26:11.800
<v Speaker 1>sports coming up today. Uh. Takuma Sato was at the practice. Greg,

0:26:11.840 --> 0:26:13.000
<v Speaker 1>did I get that right? I know you have a

0:26:13.080 --> 0:26:18.120
<v Speaker 1>Japanese wife. Wow, I believe so, And it doesn't make

0:26:18.160 --> 0:26:22.800
<v Speaker 1>me an expert in all pronunciation. It sounds right. Yeah,

0:26:22.800 --> 0:26:25.520
<v Speaker 1>I think I nailed it. Anyway, des Brian was asked

0:26:25.560 --> 0:26:28.240
<v Speaker 1>what's the fastest he's gone in a car because he's

0:26:28.240 --> 0:26:30.200
<v Speaker 1>a maniac. He said he went one hundred and eighty

0:26:30.240 --> 0:26:32.600
<v Speaker 1>miles per hour and his Bentley got pulled over by

0:26:32.600 --> 0:26:35.280
<v Speaker 1>the cops who didn't give him a ticket. We'd still

0:26:35.320 --> 0:26:37.160
<v Speaker 1>be in jail if we got pulled over for going

0:26:37.240 --> 0:26:40.679
<v Speaker 1>one eight. I'm just curious for you guys, because for me,

0:26:40.800 --> 0:26:43.760
<v Speaker 1>I I've never I've never been that guy. You know,

0:26:44.280 --> 0:26:47.520
<v Speaker 1>my car history is a Ford s Court into a Honda,

0:26:47.560 --> 0:26:51.400
<v Speaker 1>a Chord into a Jetta. Uh so, I don't have

0:26:52.000 --> 0:26:54.720
<v Speaker 1>any high octane sports cars in my past. So once

0:26:54.760 --> 0:26:56.399
<v Speaker 1>I get if I get onto the highway and I

0:26:56.440 --> 0:26:59.399
<v Speaker 1>get into the you know, feeling good, there's no traffic

0:26:59.400 --> 0:27:01.320
<v Speaker 1>all a sudden, I'm at eighty and then if I

0:27:01.359 --> 0:27:03.080
<v Speaker 1>creep a little bit more, I could feel it, and

0:27:03.119 --> 0:27:07.400
<v Speaker 1>then I went out and that's eighty five. Say nine

0:27:07.600 --> 0:27:10.480
<v Speaker 1>is the highest ever gone highest you have fastest you've

0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:13.800
<v Speaker 1>ever driven in a car? Be honest. The statue of

0:27:13.840 --> 0:27:18.359
<v Speaker 1>limitations is up hundred and five. You got the triple

0:27:18.400 --> 0:27:21.720
<v Speaker 1>digits once. I mean on. This was in Kansas, driving

0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:26.080
<v Speaker 1>on I believe Routes seventy from basically east coast all

0:27:26.119 --> 0:27:29.800
<v Speaker 1>the way to Denver, and there were no cars in

0:27:29.840 --> 0:27:33.520
<v Speaker 1>either direction at all. And I got up there and

0:27:33.520 --> 0:27:35.439
<v Speaker 1>then I looked. I didn't intentionally do you look at

0:27:35.480 --> 0:27:38.480
<v Speaker 1>the s pedomen I got my god, get down, Greg.

0:27:39.080 --> 0:27:41.600
<v Speaker 1>I was writing that same area. Similar story driving with

0:27:41.640 --> 0:27:45.480
<v Speaker 1>a friend from Massachusetts to l A back in about

0:27:45.480 --> 0:27:47.919
<v Speaker 1>two thousand two thoe it went over a hundred, but

0:27:48.040 --> 0:27:51.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember not much. I drove a Dodd Ram

0:27:51.359 --> 0:27:54.080
<v Speaker 1>pickup truck for ten years. Outside of that, I've had

0:27:54.119 --> 0:27:57.800
<v Speaker 1>nothing but gelopes and those cars. Every single one of

0:27:57.840 --> 0:28:00.960
<v Speaker 1>them would shake. Yeah, mind shaf it was shake when

0:28:01.000 --> 0:28:03.120
<v Speaker 1>you get out the eighty five or ninety. I think

0:28:03.119 --> 0:28:05.240
<v Speaker 1>I've probably top ninety a couple of times, but I've

0:28:05.240 --> 0:28:07.320
<v Speaker 1>definitely never been in triple figures. Mine was like a

0:28:07.440 --> 0:28:10.160
<v Speaker 1>nine center. I was a little surprised that could could

0:28:10.160 --> 0:28:12.120
<v Speaker 1>handle that. So you seem like a guy that maybe

0:28:12.119 --> 0:28:14.080
<v Speaker 1>I think I might have. All you guys beat does

0:28:14.119 --> 0:28:15.960
<v Speaker 1>Bryan beat. I don't know if we could count it

0:28:16.000 --> 0:28:24.800
<v Speaker 1>tough I've done, it doesn't really count, all right, It

0:28:24.880 --> 0:28:27.520
<v Speaker 1>was awesome to drive on Talladega. It was it was sweet.

0:28:27.520 --> 0:28:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Ex Uh listen, everybody, let's save for the White Bad

0:28:31.040 --> 0:28:36.600
<v Speaker 1>Boys podcast. Speaking of which, good job by Mikael Holme

0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:40.440
<v Speaker 1>on Twitter, who actually took the time to collect all

0:28:40.480 --> 0:28:45.000
<v Speaker 1>of the offseason podcasts that we've teased but never recorded. Uh.

0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:48.600
<v Speaker 1>Someones that stand out, of course, the Theology podcast, which

0:28:48.640 --> 0:28:53.120
<v Speaker 1>is coming, it's coming. Uh, let's see someones that we liked.

0:28:53.280 --> 0:28:58.360
<v Speaker 1>The Chris Hustling dating podcast. Uh, the West Needs Money podcast.

0:28:58.400 --> 0:29:00.840
<v Speaker 1>I remember that error of the show where West was

0:29:00.880 --> 0:29:03.520
<v Speaker 1>turning each episode into an airing of his financial grievances.

0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:08.000
<v Speaker 1>I enjoyed that time. Yeah, Dan's Gullibility podcast is a

0:29:08.000 --> 0:29:11.360
<v Speaker 1>good one. The Fractured Skull podcast. He is the Girl

0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:15.320
<v Speaker 1>Worth At podcast, That's the f eight function podcast. I

0:29:15.360 --> 0:29:18.080
<v Speaker 1>like the George Seaford podcast. Yeah, yeah, we can do

0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:21.680
<v Speaker 1>three hours on Seaford. What about the Mark freeball and podcast?

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<v Speaker 1>Not the case anymore. I believe we've gone over the

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<v Speaker 1>the individualized offer code. Had that go? Yeah? I took

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<v Speaker 1>the bullet for the team there. Well, like many things

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<v Speaker 1>in corporate culture, it is, you know, being considered. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>see the wheels of corporate justice are cranking trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get us that code. It's in process. This justice is slow,

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<v Speaker 1>If you'll let us, it's in your hands anyway, now

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<v Speaker 1>is the time. Yes, it's an annual tradition here at

0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:28.960
<v Speaker 1>the Round the NFL podcast, the Dalton Scale edition, and yes,

0:31:29.120 --> 0:31:34.240
<v Speaker 1>huzza indeed, because everybody loves talking quarterbacks, and this conversation

0:31:35.200 --> 0:31:39.120
<v Speaker 1>is special because I believe, and it's always you know,

0:31:39.240 --> 0:31:43.560
<v Speaker 1>it's always been a bit nebulous or nebulos um to me.

0:31:44.280 --> 0:31:46.680
<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, it's nebulous for a reason,

0:31:47.560 --> 0:31:51.440
<v Speaker 1>which is because it's a science that really breaks down.

0:31:51.600 --> 0:31:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Who has the quarterback to take them to the promised Lendon?

0:31:54.120 --> 0:31:58.400
<v Speaker 1>Who doesn't West Again a brief rundown. How this came

0:31:58.440 --> 0:32:01.400
<v Speaker 1>to be and where we're at now. I believe it

0:32:01.520 --> 0:32:04.120
<v Speaker 1>started about four years ago, two thousand and fourteen, when

0:32:04.160 --> 0:32:08.000
<v Speaker 1>we all realized that Andy Dalton was quarterback purgatory, that

0:32:08.160 --> 0:32:11.560
<v Speaker 1>he could take you to the playoffs. He was a facilitator.

0:32:11.600 --> 0:32:13.400
<v Speaker 1>He was only as good as the surrounding talent, but

0:32:13.440 --> 0:32:16.000
<v Speaker 1>he didn't make teammates better, and the Bengals would lose

0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:19.800
<v Speaker 1>their first playoff game every year. So we put Andy

0:32:19.880 --> 0:32:23.360
<v Speaker 1>Dalton as the primary inning of quarterbacks. If your quarterback

0:32:23.400 --> 0:32:26.000
<v Speaker 1>is ranked ahead of him, you have an answer. You've

0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:28.520
<v Speaker 1>got your guy. You are set with a franchise quarterback.

0:32:28.560 --> 0:32:32.200
<v Speaker 1>If your quarterback is ranked behind Andy Dalton, you need

0:32:32.240 --> 0:32:34.719
<v Speaker 1>a quarterback. You don't have an answer. You're threw you're

0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:37.000
<v Speaker 1>running him out there every week, but you probably want

0:32:37.000 --> 0:32:38.840
<v Speaker 1>to trade it for a guy or draft a guy.

0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:43.440
<v Speaker 1>There you go a great explainer. And uh, in terms

0:32:43.440 --> 0:32:45.960
<v Speaker 1>of the history of this podcast, So Dalton was that guy.

0:32:46.440 --> 0:32:48.120
<v Speaker 1>Then Dalton had that big year as we all know

0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:52.080
<v Speaker 1>in two thousand fifteen, ended prematurely with the broken thumb,

0:32:52.080 --> 0:32:53.640
<v Speaker 1>but he was one of the better pastors in the

0:32:53.680 --> 0:32:56.680
<v Speaker 1>a f C. So uh, Collectively it was decided it

0:32:56.680 --> 0:32:58.600
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be right to stick him at that spot. Maybe

0:32:58.640 --> 0:33:02.080
<v Speaker 1>he'd moved up a little bit, and we all decided

0:33:02.120 --> 0:33:06.640
<v Speaker 1>collectively that Alex Smith was the new prime Ridian And um, so,

0:33:06.840 --> 0:33:09.040
<v Speaker 1>I guess the good way to start here, and we'll

0:33:09.080 --> 0:33:13.440
<v Speaker 1>start with you, Mark, is who should we install as

0:33:13.520 --> 0:33:15.400
<v Speaker 1>that prime Ridian figure? And then we could work our

0:33:15.400 --> 0:33:19.520
<v Speaker 1>way both backwards and forwards around that figure. And uh, Mark,

0:33:19.600 --> 0:33:21.920
<v Speaker 1>do you wanna maybe make the case for Alex Smith

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<v Speaker 1>remaining that man? I will make the case for Alex

0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Smith because I don't know what has changed with Alex

0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:32.120
<v Speaker 1>Smith over the last year to change my impression of him.

0:33:32.640 --> 0:33:34.480
<v Speaker 1>As we mentioned on our NFL Network, Kid the guy

0:33:34.560 --> 0:33:36.240
<v Speaker 1>is to and four in the playoffs. He has proven

0:33:36.240 --> 0:33:38.920
<v Speaker 1>over and over that he's good enough to get your team.

0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:42.640
<v Speaker 1>He can he can serviceably get your team to the playoffs.

0:33:43.120 --> 0:33:45.720
<v Speaker 1>He's not going to shred that opportunity, can get you there.

0:33:45.720 --> 0:33:48.240
<v Speaker 1>But then it all starts to crumble. And Alex Smith

0:33:48.280 --> 0:33:51.760
<v Speaker 1>to me is just he's extremely milk toast and the

0:33:51.840 --> 0:33:54.760
<v Speaker 1>Chiefs to the Chiefs have made it very clear that

0:33:54.800 --> 0:33:57.440
<v Speaker 1>they have come to the conclusion that is exactly the

0:33:57.480 --> 0:34:00.880
<v Speaker 1>same they traded up to draft Patrick mah Himes. That

0:34:01.120 --> 0:34:03.480
<v Speaker 1>needs work, of course, but he offers a skill set

0:34:03.520 --> 0:34:07.160
<v Speaker 1>that is a counter complete counter to Alex Smith's and

0:34:07.200 --> 0:34:10.040
<v Speaker 1>they want to go in a different direction. And that

0:34:10.120 --> 0:34:12.359
<v Speaker 1>to me tells you Alex Smith is out sooner than

0:34:12.440 --> 0:34:14.960
<v Speaker 1>later in Kansas City. Yeah, I think you have to

0:34:15.000 --> 0:34:17.600
<v Speaker 1>consider Alex Smith below the Dalton scale. Now. The Chiefs

0:34:17.600 --> 0:34:22.760
<v Speaker 1>have told us he's not a franchise quarterback. When Aaron

0:34:22.880 --> 0:34:25.280
<v Speaker 1>Rodgers fell to the Packers and they had Brett Farve,

0:34:25.440 --> 0:34:26.960
<v Speaker 1>they took him because he was the best player on

0:34:26.960 --> 0:34:30.120
<v Speaker 1>the board. The Chiefs gave away an extra first round pick,

0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:34.000
<v Speaker 1>traded way up to Patrick Mahomes, and that's a much

0:34:34.040 --> 0:34:37.680
<v Speaker 1>different story. Right even if Smith is sort of right

0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:41.480
<v Speaker 1>near the line, I think that move really says the

0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:44.880
<v Speaker 1>Chiefs believe he's below the line. And when you start

0:34:44.960 --> 0:34:48.000
<v Speaker 1>to do the numbers and what we can talk about

0:34:48.040 --> 0:34:51.120
<v Speaker 1>Andy Dalton, when you start to just line up all

0:34:51.160 --> 0:34:53.920
<v Speaker 1>these players, in my mind, it's unfair to have Dalton

0:34:54.640 --> 0:34:57.480
<v Speaker 1>as the middle. But then you think about who are

0:34:57.520 --> 0:35:00.720
<v Speaker 1>the guys you would rather have and the guys you wouldn't,

0:35:00.800 --> 0:35:03.240
<v Speaker 1>and you know what, it still works out pretty even

0:35:03.800 --> 0:35:06.719
<v Speaker 1>I did a list of who who I would want

0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:10.920
<v Speaker 1>as my quarterback moving forward, and Andy Dalton landed right

0:35:11.000 --> 0:35:14.279
<v Speaker 1>smack in the middle of starting quarterbacks. Number sixteen. Now

0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:17.480
<v Speaker 1>he's better than the number sixteen quarterback used to be,

0:35:17.640 --> 0:35:20.759
<v Speaker 1>but the the quality of play at quarterback and their

0:35:20.880 --> 0:35:23.640
<v Speaker 1>numbers are just at a different level that actually, like,

0:35:23.920 --> 0:35:26.400
<v Speaker 1>you would rather have Marcus Mariota more than him, wouldn't you,

0:35:26.440 --> 0:35:29.560
<v Speaker 1>Dan Dak Brascott, Matthew Stafford, Jamis what I mean. Those

0:35:29.560 --> 0:35:31.919
<v Speaker 1>are the guys that are kind of in the ten

0:35:32.040 --> 0:35:35.839
<v Speaker 1>to fifteen level, and then there's Dalton back right where

0:35:35.840 --> 0:35:39.400
<v Speaker 1>he should be. It's back to the Dalton scale. Alright,

0:35:39.400 --> 0:35:42.640
<v Speaker 1>a couple of things come that a little bit. Um.

0:35:42.680 --> 0:35:45.359
<v Speaker 1>Although we do appreciate your enthusiasm, I think it's a

0:35:45.400 --> 0:35:48.320
<v Speaker 1>little bit unfair. I thought Dalton got kind of hosed

0:35:49.000 --> 0:35:51.040
<v Speaker 1>by his own team last year, which did not do

0:35:51.080 --> 0:35:55.200
<v Speaker 1>a nice job building around him, leading to of uh,

0:35:55.280 --> 0:35:58.239
<v Speaker 1>two contributors go Tyler and Eifford being hurt at the

0:35:58.239 --> 0:36:00.320
<v Speaker 1>Pro Bowl did not help him at all. So I

0:36:00.360 --> 0:36:03.480
<v Speaker 1>don't think like I think Andy Dalton kind of elevated

0:36:03.520 --> 0:36:06.400
<v Speaker 1>his game to the next level with me Andy's um

0:36:06.440 --> 0:36:09.440
<v Speaker 1>two years ago, and then last year he kind of

0:36:09.480 --> 0:36:13.279
<v Speaker 1>got banged by his surroundings a little bit. Uh, And

0:36:13.320 --> 0:36:15.520
<v Speaker 1>then this year I expect him to kind of be

0:36:15.600 --> 0:36:17.879
<v Speaker 1>close to guys, So I think he's on the right

0:36:17.920 --> 0:36:20.239
<v Speaker 1>side in my opinion. I want to go back to

0:36:20.239 --> 0:36:23.880
<v Speaker 1>Alex Smith one second here, Um, have you guys heard

0:36:24.360 --> 0:36:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Patrick Mahomes yet? And then yeah, I mean just really

0:36:27.600 --> 0:36:30.160
<v Speaker 1>dove into playbook, getting up to speed on trying to

0:36:30.200 --> 0:36:32.840
<v Speaker 1>catch up to where these guys are, and really just

0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:35.040
<v Speaker 1>going through the motions, learning from mistakes and getting better

0:36:35.040 --> 0:36:37.120
<v Speaker 1>every rop. I don't know if it's if I'm that

0:36:37.239 --> 0:36:39.279
<v Speaker 1>far away, it's just more about I just gonna keep working,

0:36:39.360 --> 0:36:41.319
<v Speaker 1>keep getting better. I mean these veterans or guys who've

0:36:41.320 --> 0:36:43.440
<v Speaker 1>been around the league, been in the league, and I've

0:36:43.440 --> 0:36:48.520
<v Speaker 1>been very successful. So in order to be like, uh,

0:36:48.800 --> 0:36:50.840
<v Speaker 1>does that change how you guys feel at all about Patrick?

0:36:51.160 --> 0:36:53.360
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I've hit beers with him at hucka Poose.

0:36:54.200 --> 0:36:56.200
<v Speaker 1>Definitely know that voice from some how many Pro Bowl

0:36:56.280 --> 0:36:59.560
<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks came out of huck a Poose. He's He's definitely

0:36:59.600 --> 0:37:02.880
<v Speaker 1>a man where you see him step to the podium

0:37:02.920 --> 0:37:05.280
<v Speaker 1>and when the voice that comes out of his mouth

0:37:05.920 --> 0:37:08.919
<v Speaker 1>comes out of his it's it's surprising. It takes you back.

0:37:10.239 --> 0:37:13.280
<v Speaker 1>So I I think Alex Smith is still Alex Smith.

0:37:13.280 --> 0:37:16.240
<v Speaker 1>He's more Alex Smith than he's ever been. So I'm

0:37:16.320 --> 0:37:18.680
<v Speaker 1>with Mark on this, and you guys are more in

0:37:18.719 --> 0:37:22.520
<v Speaker 1>the camp of Dalton returning to his roots, which I

0:37:22.520 --> 0:37:24.960
<v Speaker 1>can get by. I don't want to deadlock this thing

0:37:25.200 --> 0:37:27.919
<v Speaker 1>because it's frankly, it's easier to call the Dalton scale

0:37:27.920 --> 0:37:29.279
<v Speaker 1>and Dalton is the guy in the middle. Well, I've

0:37:29.320 --> 0:37:32.360
<v Speaker 1>never taken Dalton out of west, never bought this. I

0:37:32.400 --> 0:37:35.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I was listening to our podcast last year

0:37:35.080 --> 0:37:38.560
<v Speaker 1>and you did state that his performance last year changed

0:37:38.560 --> 0:37:41.200
<v Speaker 1>your feeling on him a little bit. It did. I

0:37:41.200 --> 0:37:45.000
<v Speaker 1>think I still ranked him sixteen. Though, how about if

0:37:45.000 --> 0:37:47.319
<v Speaker 1>we called it it's it's at any point if Andy

0:37:47.400 --> 0:37:49.400
<v Speaker 1>Dalton left to become an accountant. We called it the

0:37:49.440 --> 0:37:52.759
<v Speaker 1>Smith scale. It's the most boring last name, right at

0:37:52.800 --> 0:37:55.799
<v Speaker 1>the most area where you cannot possibly being excited. We

0:37:55.840 --> 0:37:58.400
<v Speaker 1>thought about calling it from Tanna scale too. Here the

0:37:58.560 --> 0:38:00.480
<v Speaker 1>problem with Alex Smith. First of all, he didn't play

0:38:00.520 --> 0:38:02.719
<v Speaker 1>as well last year as he had the previous two

0:38:02.800 --> 0:38:04.440
<v Speaker 1>or three years. I think he played at a lower

0:38:04.520 --> 0:38:09.200
<v Speaker 1>level and I've got him about twenty among starters, and

0:38:09.239 --> 0:38:10.880
<v Speaker 1>that team that seems like too low to be the

0:38:10.960 --> 0:38:15.719
<v Speaker 1>Daltons is not necessarily all because of the quarterback. But

0:38:16.000 --> 0:38:17.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, he was the quarterback for a team that

0:38:17.880 --> 0:38:20.280
<v Speaker 1>won the a f C West, and you know, yeah,

0:38:20.320 --> 0:38:22.160
<v Speaker 1>but I think he would I think he would admit

0:38:22.239 --> 0:38:25.360
<v Speaker 1>he did not play as well personal individually as he

0:38:25.400 --> 0:38:28.839
<v Speaker 1>did in That's the same paradigm though is Dalton, where

0:38:28.880 --> 0:38:30.360
<v Speaker 1>when he had a good team around him, they go

0:38:30.400 --> 0:38:32.880
<v Speaker 1>to the playoffs eleven and five, ten and six, and

0:38:32.920 --> 0:38:35.040
<v Speaker 1>he's not the reason alone that they were. He's not

0:38:35.040 --> 0:38:36.840
<v Speaker 1>going to be the reason that why they're six and

0:38:36.880 --> 0:38:39.279
<v Speaker 1>ten to be the one other real logical guy, and

0:38:39.280 --> 0:38:41.600
<v Speaker 1>it's the guy couldn't decide whether to rank Dalton over

0:38:41.760 --> 0:38:45.320
<v Speaker 1>or below is Kirk Cousins, who's basically East Coast Andy Dalton.

0:38:45.680 --> 0:38:47.600
<v Speaker 1>And I think if you put Andy Dalton on the Redskins,

0:38:47.600 --> 0:38:49.640
<v Speaker 1>he would put up numbers like Kirk Cousins. And I

0:38:49.680 --> 0:38:51.560
<v Speaker 1>think you mentioned how Dalton kind of went up and

0:38:51.600 --> 0:38:53.680
<v Speaker 1>down based on his surrounding cast, and I think that's

0:38:53.719 --> 0:38:55.319
<v Speaker 1>the kind of quarter of that Cousins is. How about

0:38:55.320 --> 0:38:58.720
<v Speaker 1>this for a compromise, I'm all down with putting Dalton

0:38:58.800 --> 0:39:01.520
<v Speaker 1>right there Rheins dalling him as long as we're o

0:39:01.600 --> 0:39:04.200
<v Speaker 1>k putting Alex Smith as the first guy on either side.

0:39:04.640 --> 0:39:08.120
<v Speaker 1>Now I have Alex Smith, I think the trade, the

0:39:08.120 --> 0:39:11.600
<v Speaker 1>trade changes everything. Alex Smith is not a franchise quarterback,

0:39:12.280 --> 0:39:15.480
<v Speaker 1>so to me, he's below guys like Joe Flacco, WHOA

0:39:16.000 --> 0:39:18.319
<v Speaker 1>I have Flacco below Dalton, but I could see an

0:39:18.360 --> 0:39:22.120
<v Speaker 1>argument for either side because Flacco has not played well

0:39:22.200 --> 0:39:25.240
<v Speaker 1>the past couple of years, but he's also his like Dalton,

0:39:25.280 --> 0:39:29.920
<v Speaker 1>his surrounding town has gone downhill. And as soon as

0:39:29.960 --> 0:39:32.320
<v Speaker 1>you want to rank Dalton ahead of Flacco, you remember

0:39:32.400 --> 0:39:37.280
<v Speaker 1>Flacco's postseason success, Well, you're gonna have Eli at thirty

0:39:37.280 --> 0:39:39.359
<v Speaker 1>three on this liston he is to Eli is one

0:39:39.400 --> 0:39:42.160
<v Speaker 1>of the Eli's postseason record is not nearly as good

0:39:42.160 --> 0:39:44.160
<v Speaker 1>as people think it is. All right, I'm gonna now

0:39:44.239 --> 0:39:48.440
<v Speaker 1>I will He's he's had two runs and every other

0:39:48.440 --> 0:39:51.200
<v Speaker 1>playoff appearance he's been terrible. You know, do you understand

0:39:51.280 --> 0:39:53.759
<v Speaker 1>what a super Bowl run is to to go through

0:39:53.800 --> 0:39:56.239
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs but go four and o two separate years.

0:39:56.840 --> 0:40:00.000
<v Speaker 1>But that doesn't think der useless. All other data involved

0:40:01.239 --> 0:40:02.720
<v Speaker 1>I think we can agree on though, is the Dalton

0:40:02.760 --> 0:40:05.719
<v Speaker 1>scale is a snapshot in time. So Eli has had

0:40:05.800 --> 0:40:08.799
<v Speaker 1>his time, and West and I at least I think

0:40:08.800 --> 0:40:11.560
<v Speaker 1>are in agreement that he is not where he was.

0:40:11.800 --> 0:40:14.839
<v Speaker 1>He was significantly worse last year and and that's why

0:40:14.840 --> 0:40:16.920
<v Speaker 1>it was not hard for me to rank him below

0:40:17.000 --> 0:40:18.960
<v Speaker 1>Dalton here on the Dawnton scale. I think they need

0:40:18.960 --> 0:40:23.200
<v Speaker 1>another franchise quarterback. I think this is the year, uh

0:40:23.239 --> 0:40:25.879
<v Speaker 1>that Eli, to me enters that guy. I know he's

0:40:25.880 --> 0:40:28.640
<v Speaker 1>been there for you guys earlier than this, coming off

0:40:28.719 --> 0:40:30.800
<v Speaker 1>that bad year. What is how is he going to

0:40:30.840 --> 0:40:33.360
<v Speaker 1>react to that? With a better cast around him? Should

0:40:33.440 --> 0:40:35.440
<v Speaker 1>the Shiant Giants are good enough to win games in

0:40:35.480 --> 0:40:37.480
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs this year, and if they don't and Eli

0:40:37.520 --> 0:40:39.600
<v Speaker 1>plays poorly again, I think he's on the wrong side

0:40:39.600 --> 0:40:41.439
<v Speaker 1>of this. I think he's in that kind. I still

0:40:41.440 --> 0:40:43.920
<v Speaker 1>think he's on the right side of this prime Ridian

0:40:44.000 --> 0:40:45.800
<v Speaker 1>but now he's closer than ever to the middle. For

0:40:45.880 --> 0:40:49.919
<v Speaker 1>me anyway, I put him right next to um Andy

0:40:50.000 --> 0:40:51.799
<v Speaker 1>Dalton right now at this point in that area. That's

0:40:51.800 --> 0:40:53.160
<v Speaker 1>where I had. Where do you got him? I put

0:40:53.239 --> 0:40:55.879
<v Speaker 1>him higher to I mean you and I think there's

0:40:55.920 --> 0:40:58.360
<v Speaker 1>two of us in this room that are probably or

0:40:58.440 --> 0:41:00.839
<v Speaker 1>more on the manning side of things. But you have

0:41:00.920 --> 0:41:04.279
<v Speaker 1>Eli manning one spot above Jared Goff. I found your

0:41:04.320 --> 0:41:09.080
<v Speaker 1>your placement of Jared Goff at one spot about tyros Well,

0:41:09.120 --> 0:41:12.319
<v Speaker 1>I know, and maybe you're you're thinking that we didn't

0:41:12.320 --> 0:41:14.480
<v Speaker 1>get a full picture of him last year. And I

0:41:14.520 --> 0:41:16.879
<v Speaker 1>also look at Carson Wentz, who you know, he has

0:41:16.880 --> 0:41:19.200
<v Speaker 1>his faults too, but he's two spots below Andy Dalton.

0:41:19.400 --> 0:41:21.560
<v Speaker 1>Where I get caught up is that if I were

0:41:21.640 --> 0:41:25.480
<v Speaker 1>to create my own team, I would quickly take a

0:41:25.520 --> 0:41:28.320
<v Speaker 1>shot on Carson Wentz is my quarterback over Andy Dalton

0:41:28.480 --> 0:41:31.040
<v Speaker 1>or not. I wouldn't go much higher on this list,

0:41:31.239 --> 0:41:33.600
<v Speaker 1>but he would be above the Andy Dalton skille for

0:41:33.640 --> 0:41:37.759
<v Speaker 1>me based on the potential. Well, I I believe that

0:41:38.000 --> 0:41:41.319
<v Speaker 1>for three years running, that same logic killed us with

0:41:41.360 --> 0:41:44.800
<v Speaker 1>Blake Bortles. You're right at the same time, I just

0:41:45.520 --> 0:41:49.880
<v Speaker 1>don't you. Carson Wentz fixes his obvious mechanical flaws, I

0:41:49.920 --> 0:41:53.040
<v Speaker 1>cannot put him above and it is a snapshot in time.

0:41:53.040 --> 0:41:56.120
<v Speaker 1>But if the deafinitions that anyone under under below Andy Dalton,

0:41:56.480 --> 0:41:59.480
<v Speaker 1>that GM that team needs to go and find a quarterback.

0:41:59.719 --> 0:42:02.760
<v Speaker 1>It's tricky with someone like Carson Wentz when they sold

0:42:02.800 --> 0:42:04.839
<v Speaker 1>so many draft picks to go get wins. If there's

0:42:04.880 --> 0:42:07.359
<v Speaker 1>any flaw in the Dalton scale, it is those young

0:42:07.600 --> 0:42:12.640
<v Speaker 1>ascending quarterbacks that you haven't seen do it yet. Because

0:42:12.719 --> 0:42:15.280
<v Speaker 1>you're right, I had went below it too. But he

0:42:15.560 --> 0:42:17.920
<v Speaker 1>is He's not a guy that you're looking to draft

0:42:18.400 --> 0:42:21.200
<v Speaker 1>another player, but he's also not a franchise quarterback here.

0:42:21.239 --> 0:42:23.879
<v Speaker 1>He hasn't proven yet. I think I don't think we've

0:42:23.880 --> 0:42:26.600
<v Speaker 1>seen yet that he's gonna be one of the worst

0:42:26.680 --> 0:42:29.880
<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks in the NFL from mid October through the end

0:42:29.920 --> 0:42:31.960
<v Speaker 1>of You're right, and we also asked too much. It's

0:42:32.080 --> 0:42:33.640
<v Speaker 1>I think we all have learned that we don't want

0:42:33.680 --> 0:42:36.120
<v Speaker 1>to define what a quarterback is after one year. We

0:42:36.239 --> 0:42:38.239
<v Speaker 1>did that with Derek Carr. In some cases, we did

0:42:38.239 --> 0:42:39.960
<v Speaker 1>that with Blake Bortles. We've all been on the wrong

0:42:40.040 --> 0:42:42.200
<v Speaker 1>side of the fence with some of this stuff, and

0:42:42.520 --> 0:42:44.520
<v Speaker 1>some of these guys are just you have or even

0:42:44.520 --> 0:42:46.759
<v Speaker 1>after two or three years. Literally a year ago, I

0:42:46.800 --> 0:42:49.759
<v Speaker 1>did that the QBN next year end rankings. I went, look,

0:42:50.000 --> 0:42:52.359
<v Speaker 1>I had Blake Bortles ahead of Matt Ryan that year

0:42:53.120 --> 0:42:54.920
<v Speaker 1>after his good year. I think I had him fourteenth

0:42:54.920 --> 0:42:56.600
<v Speaker 1>and Ryan fifty. So a year ago at this time,

0:42:56.640 --> 0:42:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Bortles I think would have been above it. And that

0:42:58.920 --> 0:43:01.120
<v Speaker 1>was a misfire. I think it. See you called it

0:43:01.160 --> 0:43:03.560
<v Speaker 1>a flaw potentially, Greg, I see it as it makes

0:43:03.600 --> 0:43:06.120
<v Speaker 1>sense that they should be lower on the list until

0:43:06.160 --> 0:43:11.320
<v Speaker 1>they proved that they should be above that threshold. So hypothetically,

0:43:11.360 --> 0:43:14.000
<v Speaker 1>a guy like Carson Wentz, who West, you have him

0:43:14.040 --> 0:43:17.200
<v Speaker 1>at eighteen here, even despite some of his struggles in

0:43:17.239 --> 0:43:19.319
<v Speaker 1>the back half of that season, he showed a lot

0:43:19.320 --> 0:43:22.160
<v Speaker 1>of growth to get into this neighborhood now and now

0:43:22.239 --> 0:43:24.480
<v Speaker 1>we'll see if he takes the next step to get

0:43:24.480 --> 0:43:27.360
<v Speaker 1>over the hump at sixteen and then you and the Eagles.

0:43:27.360 --> 0:43:29.880
<v Speaker 1>You're feeling great because after year two you you have

0:43:29.960 --> 0:43:33.840
<v Speaker 1>a franchise quarterback for sure, but we're not sure yet.

0:43:34.000 --> 0:43:38.120
<v Speaker 1>See him there says we're not sure yet, but it's promising.

0:43:38.160 --> 0:43:41.640
<v Speaker 1>Because he's eighteen, it would be wrong to say you're sure.

0:43:41.680 --> 0:43:44.120
<v Speaker 1>So I get why he's below Dalton. So to answer

0:43:44.160 --> 0:43:47.600
<v Speaker 1>your Jared Golf question, he gets a mulligan for last year.

0:43:48.080 --> 0:43:50.200
<v Speaker 1>We don't know who he is. He had one of

0:43:50.280 --> 0:43:52.960
<v Speaker 1>the worst offensive coaching staffs we've seen in a long time,

0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:57.400
<v Speaker 1>with no quarterback guru on the staff. Uh soft offensive line,

0:43:57.400 --> 0:44:01.640
<v Speaker 1>no running game, bad receivers. I said all year, Dan,

0:44:01.680 --> 0:44:03.680
<v Speaker 1>if you remember he wasn't ready to play, they shouldn't

0:44:03.680 --> 0:44:06.120
<v Speaker 1>play it. He was terrible as a rookie. But I

0:44:06.160 --> 0:44:09.600
<v Speaker 1>think he gets a mulligan. So I ranked him right

0:44:09.680 --> 0:44:13.200
<v Speaker 1>above all the guys who nobody wants that Tyrod Taylor.

0:44:13.280 --> 0:44:16.719
<v Speaker 1>Nobody wanted him because he has limitations. Yeah, but that's

0:44:16.760 --> 0:44:19.719
<v Speaker 1>that's assuming they know what that that they're doing. I mean,

0:44:19.760 --> 0:44:22.839
<v Speaker 1>the NFL mis evaluates quarterbacks all the time, as we do.

0:44:22.880 --> 0:44:25.279
<v Speaker 1>That's why players get drafted in bad spots. I don't

0:44:25.320 --> 0:44:27.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't get caught up too much. I have Taylor

0:44:27.040 --> 0:44:28.920
<v Speaker 1>way ahead of Golf, but it doesn't matter. They're not

0:44:28.960 --> 0:44:33.279
<v Speaker 1>that close really to the Dalton scale. The one thing

0:44:33.280 --> 0:44:35.719
<v Speaker 1>with Goff, though, that gets me, is like we're kind

0:44:35.719 --> 0:44:38.120
<v Speaker 1>of moving the goal posts here for a number one

0:44:38.120 --> 0:44:41.000
<v Speaker 1>overall pick. Like I I agree he should be given,

0:44:41.560 --> 0:44:45.560
<v Speaker 1>uh mostly a pass for his rookie season considering everything

0:44:45.600 --> 0:44:47.279
<v Speaker 1>around him, But he's also the number one pick in

0:44:47.320 --> 0:44:49.480
<v Speaker 1>the draft. And we weren't. We weren't just hoping that

0:44:49.560 --> 0:44:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Cam Newton would be passible in his second year. Like

0:44:51.920 --> 0:44:54.680
<v Speaker 1>if he is just possible, if he's okay, everyone's gonna

0:44:54.680 --> 0:44:56.759
<v Speaker 1>feel great about Jared Goff. That's not how he felt

0:44:56.760 --> 0:44:59.120
<v Speaker 1>about Luck. That's not how he felt about Marcus Mariotta,

0:44:59.160 --> 0:45:01.719
<v Speaker 1>who had no weapons around him as a rookie, Like,

0:45:02.200 --> 0:45:04.360
<v Speaker 1>this is a guy you should be able to improve

0:45:04.400 --> 0:45:07.200
<v Speaker 1>some of your teammates a little bit. Different types of prospects, though.

0:45:07.400 --> 0:45:09.120
<v Speaker 1>Just because you're a number one pick doesn't mean you're

0:45:09.160 --> 0:45:11.640
<v Speaker 1>the same. Cam Newton was not the same as Andrew

0:45:11.719 --> 0:45:13.840
<v Speaker 1>Luck and who's not the same as Jared. Some of

0:45:13.880 --> 0:45:16.680
<v Speaker 1>this is the failure of the draft industrial complex that

0:45:16.760 --> 0:45:19.040
<v Speaker 1>Jared you even went number one in the first place. Yeah,

0:45:19.080 --> 0:45:21.719
<v Speaker 1>and I am. I am fundamentally concerned about someone and

0:45:21.760 --> 0:45:24.719
<v Speaker 1>I this is not a football issue. You don't know

0:45:24.840 --> 0:45:27.880
<v Speaker 1>what side of the sky the sun rises. There's something

0:45:28.000 --> 0:45:30.160
<v Speaker 1>happening with you as a person. I would never put

0:45:30.200 --> 0:45:33.640
<v Speaker 1>that person this high on any list. So you're putting

0:45:33.680 --> 0:45:38.960
<v Speaker 1>that hard knocks uh stumble as a major disqualifier. Potentially,

0:45:39.120 --> 0:45:42.719
<v Speaker 1>it's it's much more drastic than uh Tannehill not knowing

0:45:42.719 --> 0:45:44.920
<v Speaker 1>the divisions and how all the divisions land, which was

0:45:44.960 --> 0:45:47.000
<v Speaker 1>also concerning to me. But that's more of we're all

0:45:47.040 --> 0:45:49.960
<v Speaker 1>plugged into that. He's maybe not. Maybe that is excess

0:45:50.000 --> 0:45:52.359
<v Speaker 1>mean about his focus. How focused are you on life

0:45:52.400 --> 0:45:54.759
<v Speaker 1>if you don't know where the sunrise at age twenty something?

0:45:54.800 --> 0:45:57.560
<v Speaker 1>I will counter if you went through the Hall of

0:45:57.560 --> 0:46:01.440
<v Speaker 1>Fame quarterbacks, the living hall of same quarterbacks, you might

0:46:01.480 --> 0:46:04.279
<v Speaker 1>be surprised how many of those quarterbacks don't know where

0:46:04.280 --> 0:46:05.960
<v Speaker 1>the sun right at the end of the lives. Yes,

0:46:06.600 --> 0:46:10.920
<v Speaker 1>what are you saying about quarterbacks? I'm saying it their respect.

0:46:11.000 --> 0:46:13.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, have you ever have you ever mowed the lawn?

0:46:13.760 --> 0:46:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever walked through a park? You can't tell

0:46:16.520 --> 0:46:19.400
<v Speaker 1>where the sun is setting a rising mark? You like

0:46:19.600 --> 0:46:21.800
<v Speaker 1>you tell time by a sun dial. You're really plugged

0:46:21.800 --> 0:46:24.160
<v Speaker 1>in on this. I mean I if if I have

0:46:24.239 --> 0:46:26.400
<v Speaker 1>any friends that do not know where the sun rises

0:46:26.400 --> 0:46:28.480
<v Speaker 1>and sets, I don't think that I'd have to sit

0:46:28.520 --> 0:46:30.440
<v Speaker 1>down and think about the friendship. All right, West, by

0:46:30.440 --> 0:46:33.719
<v Speaker 1>the way, on your list, you have Carson Palmer, and

0:46:33.920 --> 0:46:36.400
<v Speaker 1>you know this Eli stuff sticks in my crawl. Carson

0:46:36.440 --> 0:46:40.200
<v Speaker 1>Palmer is a noted playoff, choke artist and a guy

0:46:40.280 --> 0:46:43.920
<v Speaker 1>that really stumbled in his age thirty eight season, and

0:46:44.040 --> 0:46:45.840
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of reason to think that he is

0:46:45.880 --> 0:46:48.560
<v Speaker 1>not nearly the guy he was three years ago. That

0:46:48.600 --> 0:46:52.760
<v Speaker 1>you have him considerably higher than Eli Um. Why is that? Well,

0:46:53.120 --> 0:46:55.600
<v Speaker 1>he's what a year and a half removed from finishing

0:46:55.640 --> 0:46:58.640
<v Speaker 1>second in the m v P race. He played really

0:46:58.680 --> 0:47:01.120
<v Speaker 1>well down a stretch last time, well as Eli Manning

0:47:01.200 --> 0:47:05.600
<v Speaker 1>was uh face planting and ruining the Giant season. Carson

0:47:05.640 --> 0:47:07.640
<v Speaker 1>Palmer is a better quarterback than Eli Manning. That's why

0:47:07.640 --> 0:47:09.480
<v Speaker 1>I have him. But he but he is below the

0:47:09.560 --> 0:47:12.040
<v Speaker 1>Dalton line, which I think makes sense because I think

0:47:12.040 --> 0:47:14.680
<v Speaker 1>you saw last year he's going up and down with

0:47:14.719 --> 0:47:17.280
<v Speaker 1>what's happening around him. If he does not have protection.

0:47:17.600 --> 0:47:19.560
<v Speaker 1>He is not someone who's going to survive, which is

0:47:19.560 --> 0:47:21.120
<v Speaker 1>true of a lot of quarterbacks, but he is a

0:47:21.120 --> 0:47:24.600
<v Speaker 1>guy that you no longer feel is the guy that

0:47:24.640 --> 0:47:27.160
<v Speaker 1>they need to get another. The only reason I have

0:47:27.239 --> 0:47:30.360
<v Speaker 1>him below Dalton is because he is flirted with retirement

0:47:30.520 --> 0:47:32.120
<v Speaker 1>and he's year to year at this point, so you

0:47:32.120 --> 0:47:34.399
<v Speaker 1>can't consider my franchise quarter And there was a lot

0:47:34.440 --> 0:47:37.200
<v Speaker 1>of heat around the fact that the Cardinals also were

0:47:37.360 --> 0:47:41.120
<v Speaker 1>very interested in Patrick Mahomes. I had I have him

0:47:41.160 --> 0:47:45.080
<v Speaker 1>as the quarterback directly below the Dalton scale. That's where

0:47:45.200 --> 0:47:47.440
<v Speaker 1>Harson Carson Palmer. Yeah, but that he's the first one

0:47:47.480 --> 0:47:50.480
<v Speaker 1>that gets cut. So you okay, So and West has

0:47:50.880 --> 0:47:54.279
<v Speaker 1>Kirk Cousins. Excusing that Kirk Cousins Joe Flacco in that

0:47:54.600 --> 0:47:58.960
<v Speaker 1>same spot, Palmer, Mark, Who would you put as the

0:47:59.000 --> 0:48:03.239
<v Speaker 1>first guy kind of below Andy Dalton although you think

0:48:03.239 --> 0:48:06.320
<v Speaker 1>it's Alex Smith. Yeah, I think I would. I would

0:48:07.160 --> 0:48:09.759
<v Speaker 1>flip flop dalt. I would maybe put Dalton below Alx Smith.

0:48:09.760 --> 0:48:11.360
<v Speaker 1>I would be that would be the same place I

0:48:11.360 --> 0:48:13.600
<v Speaker 1>would go with it. You guys think Alex Smith is

0:48:13.600 --> 0:48:16.640
<v Speaker 1>a better player than Dalton. Is that what you're saying? No,

0:48:16.800 --> 0:48:19.759
<v Speaker 1>I think I think Dalton. Well, let me put it

0:48:19.840 --> 0:48:21.719
<v Speaker 1>kind of like the same thing. I guess to me

0:48:22.280 --> 0:48:24.279
<v Speaker 1>better they better be touching each other. And I put

0:48:24.360 --> 0:48:27.600
<v Speaker 1>kirk Cousins above both of them. I think Dalton can

0:48:27.640 --> 0:48:30.560
<v Speaker 1>be uh considerably better. And yeah, Cousins was the one

0:48:30.560 --> 0:48:32.000
<v Speaker 1>I was going to ask you, guys, how you're feeling

0:48:32.040 --> 0:48:34.640
<v Speaker 1>about old Kirky these days, because he's me and him

0:48:34.680 --> 0:48:36.440
<v Speaker 1>and Dalton are the same guy. Alex Smith, to me

0:48:36.520 --> 0:48:39.319
<v Speaker 1>is is a tear is pretty significantly below that. And

0:48:39.320 --> 0:48:41.960
<v Speaker 1>those two guys are are to me the whole They

0:48:41.960 --> 0:48:44.319
<v Speaker 1>are this exercise. They are that I feel like, if

0:48:44.360 --> 0:48:46.720
<v Speaker 1>you have you should have, if your if your list

0:48:46.840 --> 0:48:49.279
<v Speaker 1>is making sense, it makes sense. Or Kirk Cousins to

0:48:49.360 --> 0:48:53.400
<v Speaker 1>being that fourteen to eighteen area, Yeah, I feel like,

0:48:53.440 --> 0:48:55.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, he's and this is a big year for

0:48:55.600 --> 0:48:57.200
<v Speaker 1>him and the only thing you could say about it's

0:48:57.239 --> 0:49:00.640
<v Speaker 1>been a very weird contract uh SA situation way it's

0:49:00.640 --> 0:49:04.359
<v Speaker 1>played out in d C with Kirk Cousins. But if

0:49:04.440 --> 0:49:07.240
<v Speaker 1>the Redskins, for instance, we're all about the Dalton scale,

0:49:07.360 --> 0:49:09.359
<v Speaker 1>this is exactly how you would want to play it,

0:49:09.600 --> 0:49:11.319
<v Speaker 1>kind of taking this thing year by year and try

0:49:11.360 --> 0:49:14.439
<v Speaker 1>to figure out who this guy is. Uh. And they

0:49:14.520 --> 0:49:17.520
<v Speaker 1>now they get another year to it seems like that's

0:49:17.520 --> 0:49:19.920
<v Speaker 1>exactly how they're playing it. And yeah, and maybe to

0:49:20.040 --> 0:49:23.480
<v Speaker 1>their credit, unless it blows up in their face, they

0:49:23.560 --> 0:49:26.040
<v Speaker 1>I think they they share that view, or else they

0:49:26.080 --> 0:49:28.719
<v Speaker 1>would have acted differently over the last few years. They

0:49:28.719 --> 0:49:32.440
<v Speaker 1>seem pretty willing to roll the dice and and walk

0:49:32.640 --> 0:49:35.120
<v Speaker 1>watch him walk away, or possibly even trade him away

0:49:35.120 --> 0:49:37.399
<v Speaker 1>a year from now. Well, I think Jake Gruden sees

0:49:37.440 --> 0:49:39.960
<v Speaker 1>him is is Andy Dalton, And if Jake Gruden was

0:49:40.040 --> 0:49:43.000
<v Speaker 1>running that front office, he'd be signed already. But he's

0:49:43.000 --> 0:49:45.520
<v Speaker 1>not running that front office. How about Dak Prescott, just

0:49:46.120 --> 0:49:51.239
<v Speaker 1>fourth round rookie jumping right over the Dalton Dalton line,

0:49:51.320 --> 0:49:53.800
<v Speaker 1>unlike most rookies right in his first season. He deserves

0:49:53.840 --> 0:49:57.360
<v Speaker 1>it right agree everything that he did about it, but

0:49:57.400 --> 0:50:00.520
<v Speaker 1>it does again, it's more like a football thing rather

0:50:00.560 --> 0:50:02.400
<v Speaker 1>than a flaw. On this list, it shows you how

0:50:02.480 --> 0:50:05.400
<v Speaker 1>much having an amazing supporting cast can make a quarterback

0:50:05.719 --> 0:50:09.600
<v Speaker 1>look better or perform better. If Dak Prescott switched places

0:50:09.640 --> 0:50:12.960
<v Speaker 1>with Carson Wentz, I'm not saying Wentz would have performed

0:50:13.000 --> 0:50:15.040
<v Speaker 1>as well, but I don't think Dak Prescott is on

0:50:15.040 --> 0:50:17.160
<v Speaker 1>the right side of this yet. But the Cowboys, just

0:50:17.280 --> 0:50:19.799
<v Speaker 1>like the chiefs and reverse. The cowboys told you what

0:50:19.840 --> 0:50:24.080
<v Speaker 1>they thought by letting Tony Romo drift off. And I

0:50:24.120 --> 0:50:27.399
<v Speaker 1>think Dak, like, for instance, Jared Goff, you know we're

0:50:27.400 --> 0:50:29.319
<v Speaker 1>giving him a pass. I think we saw enough out

0:50:29.320 --> 0:50:31.640
<v Speaker 1>of Jared Goff to say if he had been put

0:50:31.719 --> 0:50:34.480
<v Speaker 1>in that situation in Dallas, things would not have gone

0:50:34.520 --> 0:50:36.440
<v Speaker 1>as well as they went with Dak Prescott. I mean,

0:50:36.480 --> 0:50:40.399
<v Speaker 1>you can still make evaluations on whether guys are processing

0:50:40.400 --> 0:50:44.279
<v Speaker 1>things because he's not accurate, because he really sorry, I

0:50:44.320 --> 0:50:46.640
<v Speaker 1>miss did you say Tony Romo? No, I was saying

0:50:46.719 --> 0:50:51.640
<v Speaker 1>Goff somehow Dallas. Then then it wouldn't work out. Okay, Sorry, Greg,

0:50:51.680 --> 0:50:54.879
<v Speaker 1>I just misunderstood you for sec Now you said something else,

0:50:55.080 --> 0:50:56.800
<v Speaker 1>and I was going to take him to pisc on

0:50:56.960 --> 0:50:59.120
<v Speaker 1>News and then I said, wait a second, did I

0:50:59.160 --> 0:51:04.520
<v Speaker 1>hear him? Right? It turns out I didn't thank you

0:51:04.560 --> 0:51:06.920
<v Speaker 1>for taking us through your thought process. All right? In

0:51:06.960 --> 0:51:09.440
<v Speaker 1>the bottom mark, do you have a thirty two? Did

0:51:09.440 --> 0:51:10.719
<v Speaker 1>you do with thirty two two? Or am I just

0:51:10.800 --> 0:51:13.359
<v Speaker 1>going off West? And I did not produce one? Okay,

0:51:13.360 --> 0:51:17.080
<v Speaker 1>that's fine, that's fine. So probably to the viewer's delight, Greg,

0:51:17.600 --> 0:51:21.000
<v Speaker 1>this is on TV, Greg, Greg and West in your

0:51:21.200 --> 0:51:25.560
<v Speaker 1>respective bottom tens. Who's the guy that would surprise you

0:51:25.640 --> 0:51:27.520
<v Speaker 1>the least to jump onto the right side of the

0:51:27.520 --> 0:51:38.280
<v Speaker 1>primer Indian here? Uh, it's between Trevor Simeon and Blake Bortles.

0:51:39.320 --> 0:51:42.000
<v Speaker 1>If Bortles could ever fix his mechanics, and I am

0:51:42.040 --> 0:51:44.120
<v Speaker 1>no longer holding out hope. You have twenty six and

0:51:44.120 --> 0:51:47.200
<v Speaker 1>twenty seven those two guys, Bortles and Simmon in that. Yeah,

0:51:47.239 --> 0:51:49.759
<v Speaker 1>I am not holding out hope for Bortles anymore. I

0:51:49.800 --> 0:51:52.640
<v Speaker 1>have given up the ghost. But he has the tools

0:51:52.840 --> 0:51:55.719
<v Speaker 1>if he can ever fix his mechanics. Trevor Simmey and

0:51:55.760 --> 0:51:58.160
<v Speaker 1>I liked almost everything I saw out of him last year.

0:51:58.440 --> 0:52:01.320
<v Speaker 1>I just don't know if he's talented enough. We'll see

0:52:01.640 --> 0:52:05.760
<v Speaker 1>barely sneaking into my bottom ten. There was Sam Bradford,

0:52:06.600 --> 0:52:10.680
<v Speaker 1>and it wouldn't it wouldn't surprise me with some improved protection,

0:52:11.640 --> 0:52:14.520
<v Speaker 1>uh that he puts together. If he puts together the

0:52:14.640 --> 0:52:17.320
<v Speaker 1>quality of play that he did a year ago again,

0:52:18.000 --> 0:52:21.080
<v Speaker 1>then to me, he's he's kind of proven that he

0:52:21.239 --> 0:52:25.279
<v Speaker 1>is a reliable, middle tier but solid franchise quarterback. The

0:52:25.320 --> 0:52:27.680
<v Speaker 1>only reason I still had him so low is that

0:52:27.760 --> 0:52:29.799
<v Speaker 1>it was the best season of his career, and he's

0:52:29.840 --> 0:52:31.640
<v Speaker 1>been in the NFL a long time. He's played a

0:52:31.640 --> 0:52:33.120
<v Speaker 1>long time, so I want to see him. I want

0:52:33.120 --> 0:52:35.680
<v Speaker 1>to see him do it again. He outplayed Andy Dalton

0:52:35.880 --> 0:52:38.439
<v Speaker 1>with uh you know, Dalton had a bad offensive line.

0:52:38.440 --> 0:52:40.359
<v Speaker 1>Sam Bradford had one of the worst offensive lines I've

0:52:40.360 --> 0:52:42.680
<v Speaker 1>ever seen. I think that's fair. But you have you

0:52:42.719 --> 0:52:44.840
<v Speaker 1>have Bradford below your Dalton scale as well I do.

0:52:44.960 --> 0:52:47.640
<v Speaker 1>I have him nineteen and he would be higher if

0:52:47.640 --> 0:52:50.319
<v Speaker 1>not for his injury history. Next, I feel like Sam

0:52:50.360 --> 0:52:52.880
<v Speaker 1>Bradford is exactly where he should be, the place he

0:52:52.920 --> 0:52:55.080
<v Speaker 1>always was and always will be. Like right around twenty

0:52:55.120 --> 0:52:57.719
<v Speaker 1>on this list, hand's never bought into the Bradford renaissance.

0:52:58.040 --> 0:53:00.200
<v Speaker 1>Well he was. He was very good last year, but still,

0:53:00.239 --> 0:53:01.560
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, what was he He

0:53:01.680 --> 0:53:06.120
<v Speaker 1>was a quarterback that lorded over a deeply mediocre team.

0:53:06.160 --> 0:53:08.759
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't all his fault, obviously, But is he ever

0:53:08.800 --> 0:53:11.120
<v Speaker 1>gonna be a guy that's you're gonna build a franchise

0:53:11.160 --> 0:53:14.359
<v Speaker 1>around At this stage, if it hasn't happened yet, still

0:53:14.360 --> 0:53:17.439
<v Speaker 1>pretty young, I mean guys thirty at this point, Yeah,

0:53:17.480 --> 0:53:19.560
<v Speaker 1>I got you. But guys like rich Gannon, we we've

0:53:19.560 --> 0:53:24.920
<v Speaker 1>seen quarterbacks as you think Trent Green that yeah, that

0:53:25.040 --> 0:53:27.600
<v Speaker 1>if he got in the perfect it is tough quarterback

0:53:27.680 --> 0:53:29.440
<v Speaker 1>to take to separate him from the team. But if

0:53:29.440 --> 0:53:31.560
<v Speaker 1>he got a perfect situation like a Trent Green, like

0:53:31.600 --> 0:53:34.160
<v Speaker 1>a rich Gannon, could he make that sort of developed

0:53:34.160 --> 0:53:37.520
<v Speaker 1>that late in his career. Maybe forget sandwiches, I will uh,

0:53:37.760 --> 0:53:41.680
<v Speaker 1>you could sign over your car payments and your monthly

0:53:41.719 --> 0:53:45.680
<v Speaker 1>rentals at your home in Santa Monica. If Sam Bradford

0:53:45.680 --> 0:53:47.640
<v Speaker 1>ever wins the m v P and or takes his

0:53:47.640 --> 0:53:51.360
<v Speaker 1>team to the super Bowl. But take him up on that? Yeah, okay,

0:53:51.360 --> 0:53:56.720
<v Speaker 1>what do I give up? Nothing? I mean MVP, MVP

0:53:56.880 --> 0:53:59.520
<v Speaker 1>and happening going to the super Bowl. I mean some

0:53:59.560 --> 0:54:01.160
<v Speaker 1>bad core are Rex have made it to the super Bowl?

0:54:01.160 --> 0:54:03.640
<v Speaker 1>Rex gross and made it to the super Bowl. Daddy

0:54:03.719 --> 0:54:06.440
<v Speaker 1>likes that one. They never know. I mean that that

0:54:06.560 --> 0:54:09.919
<v Speaker 1>Viking spread seven? Who know that's possible? That's good luck?

0:54:10.400 --> 0:54:12.560
<v Speaker 1>Good luck. Can you imagine Dan, if you had to

0:54:12.600 --> 0:54:15.360
<v Speaker 1>go home one night and explain to your wife and

0:54:15.440 --> 0:54:17.719
<v Speaker 1>at that point your children who would be would be

0:54:17.760 --> 0:54:20.160
<v Speaker 1>aware of this that you have taken on a financial

0:54:20.200 --> 0:54:23.120
<v Speaker 1>burden that will sink your household for a thousand better?

0:54:23.160 --> 0:54:25.520
<v Speaker 1>What if what if the Vikings start making a run right?

0:54:25.560 --> 0:54:29.000
<v Speaker 1>This is this is they're making the playoffs. This is recorded,

0:54:29.760 --> 0:54:31.480
<v Speaker 1>and you picked the wrong like you know, if you

0:54:31.560 --> 0:54:33.560
<v Speaker 1>did this with wesser Mark, they'd be like, a ha ha,

0:54:33.719 --> 0:54:35.960
<v Speaker 1>you can take me up for some jects. Now I

0:54:36.000 --> 0:54:38.840
<v Speaker 1>want that Oh, I want that run money that's happening.

0:54:38.960 --> 0:54:43.080
<v Speaker 1>I know this, you know scratches an itch for you, Greg,

0:54:43.200 --> 0:54:46.960
<v Speaker 1>So I have no problem with it. And now I

0:54:46.960 --> 0:54:49.720
<v Speaker 1>will say, if it ever did happen, if you turned

0:54:49.719 --> 0:54:52.280
<v Speaker 1>out to be the subject of a date line episode,

0:54:52.280 --> 0:54:54.280
<v Speaker 1>don't be surprised if I had to make the problem

0:54:54.320 --> 0:54:58.040
<v Speaker 1>go away. You know what does that even mean? That

0:54:58.080 --> 0:55:00.560
<v Speaker 1>means you would be you'd beat the subject, but you

0:55:00.600 --> 0:55:02.799
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be watching it because you'd be deep below the earth.

0:55:02.880 --> 0:55:05.239
<v Speaker 1>But it's like you wouldn't be interviewed, but you would be.

0:55:05.800 --> 0:55:08.360
<v Speaker 1>I got not to to hide. Well, he wants to

0:55:08.400 --> 0:55:11.120
<v Speaker 1>hide something. It would be you. I'd kill you, Greg,

0:55:11.160 --> 0:55:13.280
<v Speaker 1>I had murder you if I had, if you stood

0:55:13.280 --> 0:55:15.520
<v Speaker 1>between between me and taking care of my family, would

0:55:15.560 --> 0:55:17.760
<v Speaker 1>have to probably kill you. I thought you were trying

0:55:17.800 --> 0:55:20.920
<v Speaker 1>to entrap me in some sort of uh no, but

0:55:20.960 --> 0:55:24.040
<v Speaker 1>that's a good idea too. That I could entrap you. Well,

0:55:24.080 --> 0:55:27.920
<v Speaker 1>you you've already hatched the plan on a public podcast.

0:55:28.719 --> 0:55:31.160
<v Speaker 1>We should we should edit this part out just in

0:55:31.200 --> 0:55:35.080
<v Speaker 1>case I need to unferral some type of scheme. Cut

0:55:35.080 --> 0:55:37.480
<v Speaker 1>it out. Where would you guys put Ryan? Do you

0:55:37.520 --> 0:55:40.360
<v Speaker 1>guys think that Ryan tanne I feel like I'm speaking

0:55:40.400 --> 0:55:43.080
<v Speaker 1>to the wrong room for this, but I think if

0:55:43.440 --> 0:55:46.440
<v Speaker 1>we were talking to a lot of NFL people, there

0:55:46.480 --> 0:55:49.719
<v Speaker 1>would be something that would make the case for Ryan Tannehilton.

0:55:49.400 --> 0:55:52.440
<v Speaker 1>Dat scale at this. Why do you do this every

0:55:52.600 --> 0:55:55.120
<v Speaker 1>off season? All the Dolphins fans are starting to get

0:55:55.160 --> 0:55:58.080
<v Speaker 1>riled up. Everybody calm down, Let's hear out West. Now

0:55:58.120 --> 0:55:59.880
<v Speaker 1>I have an off season. People want to act like

0:56:00.040 --> 0:56:02.399
<v Speaker 1>Ryan Tannehill's much better than he is. He played better

0:56:02.480 --> 0:56:05.000
<v Speaker 1>last year. I think that's fair to say that the

0:56:05.160 --> 0:56:09.560
<v Speaker 1>end stretch with Gaze was the best stretch of his career.

0:56:09.600 --> 0:56:12.279
<v Speaker 1>I think that his last six seven games last year

0:56:12.400 --> 0:56:15.120
<v Speaker 1>before he got hurt, I'm a big unclosing season stretch,

0:56:15.120 --> 0:56:18.000
<v Speaker 1>and then he got hurt, wildly played up in the

0:56:18.080 --> 0:56:22.520
<v Speaker 1>upcoming season. I remember JaMarcus Russell's wild closing stretch and

0:56:22.520 --> 0:56:25.360
<v Speaker 1>everybody was convinced. How about the Geno Smith closing stretch

0:56:25.400 --> 0:56:27.759
<v Speaker 1>that had Gregg doing cartwheels. He hasn't played since. A

0:56:27.800 --> 0:56:30.239
<v Speaker 1>lot of a lot of stuff is happening at the

0:56:30.280 --> 0:56:32.480
<v Speaker 1>end of any NFL season two. But I think here's

0:56:32.560 --> 0:56:34.359
<v Speaker 1>that was mid season. He just got hurt in Week

0:56:34.400 --> 0:56:36.839
<v Speaker 1>fourteen or whatever. I guess think it's it's a snapshot

0:56:36.840 --> 0:56:39.279
<v Speaker 1>of Tannehill. He'd be higher than he would have been

0:56:39.320 --> 0:56:42.399
<v Speaker 1>maybe in other periods in his career. But if it's

0:56:42.440 --> 0:56:45.480
<v Speaker 1>if you're thinking about Tannehill the overall product, I think

0:56:45.480 --> 0:56:47.560
<v Speaker 1>he's right where he should be. I I have him

0:56:47.640 --> 0:56:51.000
<v Speaker 1>nineteen and I think he is among the guys below

0:56:51.320 --> 0:56:55.000
<v Speaker 1>the Dalton scale for me, like Flacco, that would have

0:56:55.040 --> 0:56:57.640
<v Speaker 1>a good chance to jump above because I think, but

0:56:57.760 --> 0:57:00.239
<v Speaker 1>you say that year, but this is the first time

0:57:00.280 --> 0:57:03.719
<v Speaker 1>he's had a competent coordinator for the second straight year.

0:57:03.760 --> 0:57:07.480
<v Speaker 1>He certainly got better talent around him. If he doesn't

0:57:07.520 --> 0:57:10.200
<v Speaker 1>do it now, there are no excuses. But I think

0:57:10.239 --> 0:57:13.839
<v Speaker 1>you can look at Mike Sherman and Joe Philbin and

0:57:13.840 --> 0:57:16.760
<v Speaker 1>and what's been going on with the offensive line and

0:57:16.760 --> 0:57:19.560
<v Speaker 1>and make some excuses for I think that's what we

0:57:19.680 --> 0:57:22.600
<v Speaker 1>When Andy Dalton took the team to eight and no

0:57:22.800 --> 0:57:24.320
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, and he was playing in an m v

0:57:24.400 --> 0:57:27.200
<v Speaker 1>P level. It was in a world where everything around

0:57:27.320 --> 0:57:29.760
<v Speaker 1>him was perfect for the most part, and we got

0:57:29.840 --> 0:57:32.320
<v Speaker 1>the prime version of Andy Dalton, a version that I

0:57:32.320 --> 0:57:33.840
<v Speaker 1>think would have argued for him not to be in

0:57:33.840 --> 0:57:36.520
<v Speaker 1>this spot again if that play had continued. Ever again,

0:57:36.600 --> 0:57:39.080
<v Speaker 1>not close to it. But if you look at Tannehill,

0:57:39.440 --> 0:57:41.200
<v Speaker 1>we're projecting that he has to do it. We can't

0:57:41.200 --> 0:57:43.520
<v Speaker 1>just say everything needs to be perfect around Tannehill then

0:57:43.600 --> 0:57:47.160
<v Speaker 1>he'll rise above Dalton. It's no coincidence that this sequence

0:57:47.200 --> 0:57:50.640
<v Speaker 1>that Gregg is talking about also Cohen. It is also

0:57:50.720 --> 0:57:53.439
<v Speaker 1>when they started to run their offense through j h I. Yep,

0:57:53.840 --> 0:57:56.360
<v Speaker 1>but he ran he One thing Tannehill did last year

0:57:56.440 --> 0:57:58.160
<v Speaker 1>and he should be given credit because he got picked

0:57:58.200 --> 0:57:59.800
<v Speaker 1>on a lot for it was he threw the ball

0:58:00.120 --> 0:58:03.680
<v Speaker 1>deep well period and that was one of maybe the

0:58:03.760 --> 0:58:06.640
<v Speaker 1>biggest weakness that he had. Ended up averaging seven point

0:58:06.680 --> 0:58:09.200
<v Speaker 1>seven yards per tempt, Like can you do it again? Yeah,

0:58:09.200 --> 0:58:11.920
<v Speaker 1>he showed some progress, That's all I'm saying. He's been

0:58:11.920 --> 0:58:16.200
<v Speaker 1>around for a while. I can't track of Greg's Tannehill

0:58:16.680 --> 0:58:20.160
<v Speaker 1>love scale. It seems to come and go. It's sometimes

0:58:20.160 --> 0:58:23.120
<v Speaker 1>it's stronger than others. I remember it was very very

0:58:23.120 --> 0:58:27.400
<v Speaker 1>strong entering that Dan Campbell season. I'd started lost off

0:58:27.400 --> 0:58:30.680
<v Speaker 1>going into last year, and now your kid's getting back.

0:58:31.360 --> 0:58:34.640
<v Speaker 1>He regretted bailing on him, Yeah, a little bit. Well

0:58:34.720 --> 0:58:37.640
<v Speaker 1>it's not too late. Not too late. Uh. I think

0:58:37.640 --> 0:58:40.480
<v Speaker 1>he's perfect right where he is hanging out around Sam Bradford.

0:58:40.520 --> 0:58:43.280
<v Speaker 1>But we'll see. Maybe he does make the leap. Uh

0:58:43.320 --> 0:58:46.240
<v Speaker 1>for good for you, Greg, which would be bad news

0:58:46.280 --> 0:58:48.600
<v Speaker 1>for your football team, but you don't really care anymore.

0:58:48.920 --> 0:58:52.720
<v Speaker 1>I care if you know, if any Tannehill gets in

0:58:52.760 --> 0:58:55.000
<v Speaker 1>the way of them in the playoffs or anything like

0:58:55.040 --> 0:58:59.280
<v Speaker 1>that that crush them, like all credit to him. I'm

0:58:59.280 --> 0:59:03.440
<v Speaker 1>not expecting that happened. Um, anything else we want to discuss,

0:59:03.480 --> 0:59:06.160
<v Speaker 1>we I guess we because I like, I like to

0:59:06.160 --> 0:59:07.720
<v Speaker 1>come out of this with us all being on the

0:59:07.760 --> 0:59:09.760
<v Speaker 1>same page. But there's no reason to force it either.

0:59:10.640 --> 0:59:14.000
<v Speaker 1>But where some of us believe Alex Smith is, some

0:59:14.080 --> 0:59:17.480
<v Speaker 1>of us believe, uh that Andy Dalton is the prime Ridian.

0:59:18.120 --> 0:59:20.960
<v Speaker 1>But in general, I think the bigger takeaways who is

0:59:21.040 --> 0:59:24.040
<v Speaker 1>in that realm and who's gonna who's gonna fall back,

0:59:24.040 --> 0:59:26.280
<v Speaker 1>who's gonna jump over? And that's what we've really dug

0:59:26.360 --> 0:59:29.600
<v Speaker 1>get on here, and I think we haven't talked a

0:59:29.600 --> 0:59:31.920
<v Speaker 1>lot about the guys that are above the line because

0:59:32.040 --> 0:59:34.760
<v Speaker 1>it feels like this year, more than others, that they

0:59:34.760 --> 0:59:37.400
<v Speaker 1>are kind of no doubters. Like Stafford is a no doubter. Now,

0:59:37.520 --> 0:59:39.720
<v Speaker 1>Camp of course is a no doubter. I think Mariota

0:59:39.760 --> 0:59:42.200
<v Speaker 1>and Winston at this point are are no doubters all

0:59:42.280 --> 0:59:45.520
<v Speaker 1>right here, Yeah, let's do this earlier we we looked

0:59:45.520 --> 0:59:48.160
<v Speaker 1>at the bottom ten. Who in your boys is top

0:59:48.240 --> 0:59:52.240
<v Speaker 1>ten quarterbacks? Uh? Stands the greatest chance to drop below

0:59:53.360 --> 0:59:57.880
<v Speaker 1>the Dalton line in oh this was where it could

0:59:57.880 --> 1:00:06.160
<v Speaker 1>get a little testy. Well, I have Stafford in Newton

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<v Speaker 1>nine and ten. I just say they're the most likely. Stafford,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he's in an offense where they throw quick

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<v Speaker 1>short passes. Does that really use his skill set the most?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. And Newton had one of the least

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<v Speaker 1>accurate stretches we've seen down the stretch last year. He

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<v Speaker 1>was playing through a shoulder injury. But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we'll see what Cam Newton does this year. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Cam would be my choice, and I I love Cam,

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<v Speaker 1>I love watching him. I don't think it's gonna happen,

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<v Speaker 1>yet they want to change the offense. He's coming up

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<v Speaker 1>a shoulder surgery, and you look at the last his

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<v Speaker 1>last three seasons. I think it's universally agreed not a

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<v Speaker 1>top ten quarterback in M v P. Not a top

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<v Speaker 1>ten quarterback. That is a but that's a crazy career thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So could he if he struggled again, if he had

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<v Speaker 1>another bad season, is that going to change the way

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<v Speaker 1>we think about And you know, I guess, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>it would because I would be three out of four years.

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<v Speaker 1>I would go with Stafford and Newton because I think

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<v Speaker 1>they'll both be leapfrogged by Mariotta and Winston and and honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I could see Philip Rivers getting back up into the

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<v Speaker 1>top ten. With with top ten, I'm talking that will

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<v Speaker 1>drop out of the top. I'm saying that would just

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<v Speaker 1>that would displace the too co out of the sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Stafford for me, yeah, I'm with you all that just

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<v Speaker 1>because obviously he's had great moments all throughout his career.

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<v Speaker 1>But could I see him regressing a little bit? Has

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<v Speaker 1>he has he peeked as a player. It's it's possible.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a bad taste of my mouth to that

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<v Speaker 1>that playoff loss to the Seahawks. I feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>kind of sick of Met Stafford after that game, sick

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<v Speaker 1>of the hole met Stafford. Also, I really was impressed

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<v Speaker 1>by the way he played. I think he played in

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<v Speaker 1>a way that convinced me that he's going to have

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<v Speaker 1>a really nice back end of his career. That he

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<v Speaker 1>kind of was is a very steady He was not

1:01:52.840 --> 1:01:55.680
<v Speaker 1>their problem. He's the one problem. But I think in

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<v Speaker 1>the past he's been very up and down. Last year

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<v Speaker 1>he was not up and down. To me, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>looking at West top ten over here, I don't see

1:02:01.880 --> 1:02:04.440
<v Speaker 1>like a total phony hanging out in there. It's an

1:02:04.480 --> 1:02:07.160
<v Speaker 1>automatic to drop it to I think when you when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the breath of Matthew Stafford's career, the

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<v Speaker 1>one thing that jumps out is his total inability to

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<v Speaker 1>beat good teams. Yeah, and that's a trait of I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's a trait of the Dalton scale esque issues.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that for me, that's part of it. And Stafford

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<v Speaker 1>has been there and he's been this physically gifted player

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<v Speaker 1>the whole time, and yet how many huge wins do

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<v Speaker 1>you remember? And and finally, just a little cute note

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<v Speaker 1>here my favorite little rivalry between my boys. West has

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<v Speaker 1>uh Marcus Mariotta one spot ahead of Jamis Walton, and

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<v Speaker 1>Greg has Jamis Winston one spot ahead of Marcus Mariotta.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys are so cute. Yeah, I didn't. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>waffle on that one at all. Mariota clearly. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it's not like you have them to to uh

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<v Speaker 1>too far apart there. That is funny. We didn't see

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<v Speaker 1>our lists obviously separate. All right, there you go. That

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<v Speaker 1>is are Dalton Scale conversation for two thousand, uh seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>Finally a little bit of breaking news here and then

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<v Speaker 1>to do that, Yes, we're going to the Ravens Nest.

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<v Speaker 1>Hit me again. Not good news. Ravens cornerback Tavon Young

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<v Speaker 1>suffered a torn a c l at O t a

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<v Speaker 1>s expected to uh miss most of or if not,

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<v Speaker 1>the entire seen season. Was a nice player in the

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<v Speaker 1>slot for them as a rookie. Uh no official word

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<v Speaker 1>out yet, but tough times in the Ravens Nest today.

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<v Speaker 1>I I really was impressed by him as a rookie.

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<v Speaker 1>He was such a tough player. But they are about

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<v Speaker 1>as deep at cornerback as as any team in football,

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<v Speaker 1>which is surprising to say about the Ravens. They have

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Smith, their first round pick, Marlon Humphrey and Brandon

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<v Speaker 1>Carr still three pretty solid cornerbacks. So if if they

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<v Speaker 1>were going to take a bad injury at a position,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess cornerback would be one to do it. Guys,

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<v Speaker 1>right to hop out of the nests. We're late visit

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<v Speaker 1>to the nest. Sometimes you're and sometimes you're have time

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<v Speaker 1>to hop out of that nest. All right, it's time

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<v Speaker 1>to end the Around the NFL podcast. We got a

1:04:06.880 --> 1:04:10.440
<v Speaker 1>big softball game to prepare for. No more work, only

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<v Speaker 1>focus on an important game. And I will say it again.

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<v Speaker 1>I say this with peace and love. Heads will roll

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<v Speaker 1>if we do not prevail tonight. Pressure is on how

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<v Speaker 1>many jobs are on the line in this game. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to put a number on it because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want people listen. I want people looking over their

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<v Speaker 1>shoulders during this game, but I don't want them to

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<v Speaker 1>be in an outright panic where they're they're counting numbers

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<v Speaker 1>and saying, looking at the box score, who's doing better?

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<v Speaker 1>Do I have to stay above this guy? But just

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<v Speaker 1>no skips watching very closely half the team is in Europe.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, how are you going to contact one of

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<v Speaker 1>these vacationers if it's them that gets axed. Uh, we

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<v Speaker 1>should have close to a full squad today. Actually, when

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<v Speaker 1>one thing you should like or not like, but at

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<v Speaker 1>least take comfort in the the arc of the team.

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<v Speaker 1>It's somewhat similar. It's even early in the process to

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<v Speaker 1>last year's team. Right, you guys had some ups and downs.

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<v Speaker 1>You were saying, you're seven and seven at one each

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<v Speaker 1>With all due respect, each season is its own thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not going to say, oh, just because we

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<v Speaker 1>sucked it up for a portion of the regular season

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<v Speaker 1>last year, it's okay, that's happening this year. No, I

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<v Speaker 1>expect more from this team this year coming off our season,

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<v Speaker 1>and I haven't liked what I've seen in the last

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks. Some of the some of the playing

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<v Speaker 1>and some of the attitudes quite funny. Uh. And if

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<v Speaker 1>I have to make a move, I have to make

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<v Speaker 1>a move. So I don't want to get on your radar.

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<v Speaker 1>But what if someone raises the issue that you were

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<v Speaker 1>not at the last time. Well, I put family above softball, Alright,

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't about everyone can miss a game here and there.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fine, that's not the issue. And it's when you're

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<v Speaker 1>on the field, what are you doing for me? In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>me missing games shouldn't be the end of the world.

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<v Speaker 1>So we have a lot of guys. My problem is,

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<v Speaker 1>I got a lot of guys, But I got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of guys that can play, and I'm gonna make

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<v Speaker 1>some decisions based on I see today. I have taken

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<v Speaker 1>copious scattering reports the last few weeks, and I am

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<v Speaker 1>ready to contribute to this discussion anyway you needs. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>as my as my consigliari, we always discuss any huge moves. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and that will happen again. So good luck Greg in

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<v Speaker 1>today's game. Wow. Great, No, Greg, You've done very well

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<v Speaker 1>this season. I just want to make that clear. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's more, I'm watching the entire team. Okay, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be back. I mean, I'm out here sacrificing for

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<v Speaker 1>this team. I see a gnarly, bloody picture every like Greg.

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<v Speaker 1>Greg's earned. Just keep We'll be back on Tuesday with

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<v Speaker 1>another episode of the Round the NFL podcast. Dan Hans

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<v Speaker 1>designing off for the Scissor, The Mailman, the Boston Slily

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<v Speaker 1>Behind the Glass Tail Tuesday, Pat