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Speaker 1: This is a headgun podcast. Celebrity book Club. Hey Lily,

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Speaker 1: remember when we left Tablet in nineteen ninety two to

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Speaker 1: go to London to start our podcast careers. Oh fuck me,

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Speaker 1: We're so plastered the whole time, But I remember crystal

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Speaker 1: Clear like the legs of Ireland. There was one of

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Speaker 1: the wildest times in my life. We'd just gotten off

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Speaker 1: of a tiny mini tour opening up for Stiff Little

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Speaker 1: Fingers and No Effects and in bars around Galway and

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Speaker 1: we started talking and doing our live past podcasting. People say,

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Speaker 1: what the fuck are you doing. I'm looking for some

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Speaker 1: punk rock music. Stiff Little Fingers come play on. These

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Speaker 1: two just chit chatting away their horses. They thought we

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Speaker 1: were total squares, but we weren't. That's the thing. There

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Speaker 1: was something so punk about going up there and just talking,

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Speaker 1: just chatting, and there was just one bird in the audience,

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Speaker 1: bird like a bird like yeah, I remember, yeah. If

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Speaker 1: you remember Meg, our first producer. She was in Steeltoe Docks,

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Speaker 1: steel Tooe Docks and shed. She had dark hair on

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Speaker 1: she had tits like mountains. And she came up to

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Speaker 1: us in the in the alleyway after the show and

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Speaker 1: she said, you guys are going to be big, and

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Speaker 1: we said, stop shiting us. My last I thought I

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Speaker 1: was afraid. I was like, oh, here's a bird lesbian.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he's gonna shit kick us. Yeah, she was like

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Speaker 1: our podcasting. She wanted to hear the stiff little fingers,

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Speaker 1: but nah. She wanted to assign us to something called

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Speaker 1: the podcast network and we thought, you're crazy, there's no

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Speaker 1: such thing as a podcast network. But then she paid

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Speaker 1: for our ticket. We flew on er Lingus. We kept

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Speaker 1: laughing about how it's called er Lingus the whole time.

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Speaker 1: We said, oh, what are they gonna do kne lingus?

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Speaker 1: But she is a lesbian. Right then we got to London.

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Speaker 1: It was this city of all these podcast executives. London

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Speaker 1: was sick as hell. We got to London. I was like, damn,

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Speaker 1: this is the coolest thing I've ever been to. Fuck Ireland,

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Speaker 1: Fuck Dublin, fuck Away. People were just podcasting the streets

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Speaker 1: back then. You go down Camden Market, there's podcasts left

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Speaker 1: and right, and I thought, this is where we gotta be.

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Speaker 1: This is where it's all happening. This is the heart

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Speaker 1: of the scene. We were getting pitched out, we were

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Speaker 1: getting fish and chips and then we'd just slam some

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Speaker 1: some guinnesses. Go to the pub, go back podcast, Go

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Speaker 1: to the pub podcast again, go to the pub. Recorded

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Speaker 1: our whole first live album just like that, absolutely wasted blockout,

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Speaker 1: blockout on Porters, completely blackout on Porter's in Campton. And

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Speaker 1: you remember Amy Winehouse was there and she was a young,

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Speaker 1: young young lives very ill. She was about five. She

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Speaker 1: was like she had a podcast then actually no one

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Speaker 1: knows this, no, and they made her should stay with podcasting.

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Speaker 1: She probably still be around. Podcast saved lives. That's Meg

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Speaker 1: saved our lives. Who knows I'd be in the ditches

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Speaker 1: of Dublin right now. I'd been the gutters like all

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Speaker 1: away right now. She saved us. She saved us. Thank you, Meg,

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Speaker 1: your grave right now because she is past. Who's that

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Speaker 1: knocking at the door. It's all your friends, you filthy horse.

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Speaker 1: Your husband's gone and we've got books and a bottle

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Speaker 1: of wine to kill. It's it's books, it's gossip. I'm shooking.

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Speaker 1: It's memoirs Martini. Clebri Book Club, Come read it while

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Speaker 1: it's hot. Celebrity Book Club, tell your secrets. We won't

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Speaker 1: talk clebrity books. No Boys Are Alloud, celebrit Book Club

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Speaker 1: Say it Loud and Cloud Celebrity book Club. Buzz men.

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Speaker 1: I brought the Queer voe. Hey best friend, Hey, my

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Speaker 1: American best friend. Hello, my North American best friend. Stephen

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Speaker 1: Phillips Horst hailing from the state of Massachusetts, which was

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Speaker 1: the first. No, Virginia was the first colonized state. Yes,

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Speaker 1: damn yes, but it is one of the thirteen magital colonies. Right,

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Speaker 1: It's just so weird that masses Like is kind of

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Speaker 1: the original state, right, well, I mean Playmouth, mass Bay colony, right,

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Speaker 1: But then Virginia get and they really they got in

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Speaker 1: were doing the states, their whole colonizing thing. Enough on colonizers,

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Speaker 1: How are you? I'm so good. How is your summer bench?

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Speaker 1: It's been pretty good. It's kind of so random because

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Speaker 1: we've been away from each other. Yeah, I haven't seen

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Speaker 1: you in months, and I have so much to hear

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Speaker 1: should do this whole catch up up. Yeah, that'll be

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Speaker 1: a separate catchup episode whe people get to hear about

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Speaker 1: our wild summer, wild summers of beaches and men and ferry, airplanes,

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Speaker 1: air conditioning, hot dogs, trains, good old fashioned American skincare

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Speaker 1: search men's yes. No surgery, yeah, no surgery, just not

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Speaker 1: reapply every two hours. I got burned a few times

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Speaker 1: this summer. You're burned every summer. I do. But you're

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Speaker 1: addicted to lobstering. It's part of my DNA, you know

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Speaker 1: what it is. It's part of my Irish heritage. You're

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Speaker 1: Irish heritage. Yeah. You put a potato out in the sun,

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Speaker 1: If an Irishman doesn't turn red over the summer, is

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Speaker 1: he an Irishman? If an Irishman can't drink six gallons

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Speaker 1: of guinness. If an Irishman cut down a leader of

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Speaker 1: Jamison and drive home thirty kilometers in the pitch of dark,

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Speaker 1: Jamison And do they think it's kind of like was

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Speaker 1: Or if they drink like better Jamison? Are we getting

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Speaker 1: shittier Jamison? Right? And there's something called just like clean

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Speaker 1: You know her from her biggest hit, which is of

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Speaker 1: course nothing compares to You, which is actually Prince Cover.

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Speaker 1: just as this shit kicking nineties feminiser who of course

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Speaker 1: She thinks er what ruined her was just like the

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Speaker 1: and I will say she can't do with sign Out,

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Speaker 1: which is fair. Yeah. I feel like in the nineties

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Speaker 1: I mean that's the thing. It's just like a male

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Speaker 1: For it's Harvey Dangerous Megastar. I'm saying at that time,

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, when the Flag Pulsita came out, you could

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Speaker 1: not right. I saw Harvey danger Mallapalooza at the Camberti Galleria.

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Speaker 1: When you told me that in middle school, I was like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: so he is badass. I was like there in my

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Speaker 1: like I had to do old Navy like orange cargo

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Speaker 1: is actually cool. He goes to see Hervey Danger Cambridge

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Speaker 1: was just like, I only knew the one song you

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Speaker 1: I had the CD. But I like, but everyone only

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Like, if you go to some

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Speaker 1: they would okay, they would like steal from the collection

422
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Speaker 1: tins at church like classic. It was also very mass

423
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Speaker 1: Perg didn't do that, my odd. I have not thought

424
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 1: about mass Perg in forever, which is which is basically

425
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,879
Speaker 1: you know whatever, being on the street and asking what

426
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:18,439
Speaker 1: it's Massachusetts Prevention of of irrigation. I don't know, no

427
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:22,159
Speaker 1: idea what you're collecting my park. I never worked for Massperg.

428
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,680
Speaker 1: Kate did mass park and she was like my scammer

429
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 1: high school friends, my high school friend, and of course

430
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 1: she was like Massachusetts top mass perg owner, but she

431
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 1: was skimming off the top, like nobody's businesss. I'm sure

432
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,400
Speaker 1: she was. Do you remember the seeing her sister Margaret

433
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 1: or whatever, sister Broomhilda like sister Yeah, makes her go

434
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:47,440
Speaker 1: to the hospice part of the like Coventry. You're gonna like,

435
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,640
Speaker 1: this is why you need to stop stealing, being such

436
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 1: a miscreant, because you're going to end up like these

437
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 1: old ass hags who are dying. It was very when

438
00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 1: Ricky Lake did like Scared Straight and they like brought

439
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,719
Speaker 1: kids to prison. It's already and then she said there

440
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 1: and she's like she's like and I realized this is

441
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 1: my sister Clothilda told me to come to the hospital.

442
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 1: She's like, I don't want to be like these old tags,

443
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:13,879
Speaker 1: and like that's when she got it together, but like

444
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 1: she didn't really, she just kind of, like I guess,

445
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 1: pursued her music career more. Can I ask you a

446
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 1: personal question? Sure, that's kind of crazy. I feel like

447
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,160
Speaker 1: your mother's calth She's not Irish. She's no, she's not Irish.

448
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 1: I mean my grandmother, yeah, as you know, so grew

449
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,920
Speaker 1: up in South Dakota in the in the sod house

450
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 1: because a little more pilgrim. They were German as well,

451
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 1: both as my family like the it was like turn

452
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 1: of the century German immigrants and they settled in South

453
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 1: My mother's mother mother raised with also like you know,

454
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 1: like a hundred siblings or whatever, in the sowd house

455
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 1: in South Dakota, and she as you like this famous room.

456
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 1: She took a bus to La and she all had

457
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 1: the address of a brothel and she was seventeen and

458
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 1: the bus driver was like, miss, you don't want to

459
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 1: go in there, and liked for her while she went

460
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 1: in and then like came back out with her little

461
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 1: suitcase and was like, oh my god. Um. But even

462
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 1: though she was not Irish. She was abusive to my aunts, okay,

463
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 1: and she has passed and she may rest in peace

464
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 1: and power. But yeah, um, I do know that my grandmother,

465
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,199
Speaker 1: the originalman who passed her family went speak to her

466
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 1: because she was born Baptist. She married an irishman. How

467
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 1: was she born Baptist? When she was born in the

468
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:33,639
Speaker 1: Baptist faith. The daughter married my grandfather was Irish okay,

469
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 1: and he was Catholic. She converted Catholicism, who converted to Concolicism,

470
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 1: my grandmother to marry him, to marry him. Yeah, so

471
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 1: I'm going to need a diagram here. Yeah, we'll have

472
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,199
Speaker 1: to a family trade. Her parents were upset, Yes, her parents,

473
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 1: I said, because they weren't Catholic. They were Baptist missionaries

474
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 1: from where New Jersey. Oh he didn't marry an irishman. No,

475
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 1: I think she was like Dutch and Irish, but they

476
00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 1: were Irish. Dish it's diresh huh. Yeah, that's rough. But

477
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 1: she did it for love? Would you convert her love?

478
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 1: Would I join any religion? Yeah? Well it wasn't too hard.

479
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 1: It wasn't so many classes. Yeah, Like when Charlotte becomes Jewish,

480
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,400
Speaker 1: she does the accelerated program. Yeah, she's doing a lot

481
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 1: of studying, a lot of work. And I was like sure,

482
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I know Harry laid the pipe, but I

483
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 1: mean I just don't think I could do that. I

484
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: would do it for like an event or something, you

485
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 1: know what I mean, but not necessarily like for all

486
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 1: the time you convert for an event like to like

487
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 1: just like if there was like a five years open

488
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: bar or something, Okay, and that's your coming out party, right,

489
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 1: although now then I'm thinking about it. I mean I

490
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 1: do always have this fantasy of like being Anne Hathaway

491
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 1: and marrying that guy who like swindled her in the

492
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: Catholic Church of Mia, And I'm just like if I

493
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: did marry this like Italian count and he was just like, well, Marie,

494
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 1: now you must convert to Catha, let's see, And I

495
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: would be like, he's like also Dracula parent. Yeah that

496
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: could be sexy, I guess. But again I'm with you

497
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: on the work. The work. I mean, as a child

498
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 1: going I recently went through my quickly by old diaries

499
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 1: and like at age thirteen, I mean, this is me

500
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: being obsessed with like Italian culture and like badass irishman

501
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 1: it was like I like wanted to like go to

502
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,120
Speaker 1: a Catholic church and like I feel like I was like, yeah,

503
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 1: encouraging my mom that we should go to the Catholic

504
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 1: church where I was baptized and have it square Saint

505
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,199
Speaker 1: Paul's for like Easter, because I was like, oh, I

506
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 1: mean the dry I like the drama of it, the smells,

507
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 1: and I was like, being a Catholic is like badass

508
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: and just you know, it's although it's badass because I

509
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 1: feel like it's something that like gay people like because

510
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 1: it's just fancy and there's a lot of ceremony and

511
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: like drama and like dresses and jewels and right, and

512
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: I was seeing it from a more like mafia. Oh yeah,

513
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: you were just being like kissed the Ring, Kiss the Ring.

514
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Speaker 1: No said she doesn't like the Catholic Church. Sure doesn't

547
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: like the Catholic Church. You know. She also doesn't like

548
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: liars Ireland. Oh yeah, but Ireland doesn't like her, which

549
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: I feel like it is a very Irish thing to

550
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: I don't know Irish listeners shout it out maybe more

551
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: early on. Well, she says she doesn't like Island, but

552
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: she also probably didn't her Irish because she's like, yeah,

553
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: we've been shut on before, We've been forgotten by the world,

554
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: we've been colonized by every ass fucking all of the globe.

555
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: So you can go fuck yourself if you want to

556
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: fuck with an Irish person, right, It's like she's proud,

557
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: but also like, fuck Ireland, your sot offs. You did

558
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: nothing for me. You're always sad when you go there.

559
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: You go to a bosh. She talks about this bar

560
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: that's on Saint Mark's an Avenue, a that I want

561
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: to go to, but I assume is like closed down,

562
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: is now just like a bow place. When I think

563
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:58,719
Speaker 1: about Saint Marks in have any way, I think that

564
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: there's that place, Sushi Village, and then I feel like

565
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: there's a Starbucks in their site. Fucking gentrification. I mean

566
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: there are a lot of like dive bars in that area,

567
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: so it's not that crazy, but right, it could be

568
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: like the Penny Lane. And she talks about how she

569
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: this is like well into her fame, she would go

570
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: to this Irish bar like for the coffee and like

571
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: cigarettes and just like sit outside and like drink coffee. Yeah,

572
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: I mean she likes weed and coffee. As you know,

573
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: she is Rasta for a long period. Well this is

574
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: always wanted to talk about this because this seems to

575
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: be not the beginning of her roster period but kind

576
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 1: of the second wave of her seriod. So the first

577
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: wave was when she first goes to London and she

578
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: just like starts like seeing Rosta guys like in Camden

579
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: and it's just like listening like to Rosta records. I mean,

580
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: like this is so cool, Like what does this be?

581
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: She gets super into reggae, Prince Buster, the Israelite Well

582
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: and they and they like these like reggae guys tell

583
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: her that all this music is Christian and like that's

584
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: she's grown up in the Catholic Church. Like she recognizes

585
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: all these themes and so she's really drawn to the

586
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: con ten the lyrical. She understands it right, She's like

587
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: she gets what this is about. She's like, I get God.

588
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: She would like meet some cot guy like in Dublin

589
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: when she was a teen to be like and he

590
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: was willing into guarded. I was really into garden. So

591
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: we started chatting. She started chatting in the eye throw

592
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: a fuck. It's kind of crazy how horny she is. Oh,

593
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: I think it's crazy for a woman to be harny. No,

594
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: I don't think it's crazy for would be horning. But

595
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: I guess growing up, right, I too, was like was

596
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 1: actually lesbian? Right? You thought? What? Oh? Won with a

597
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: shaved head when she's at like the Veterans Hall later

598
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: in the book, that's that's like dying vetter And he's like,

599
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: I've never seen it's not I's just like Syrian. But yeah,

600
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: He's like, how are you not a lesbian? I've never

601
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: seen like a non lesbian woman with a shaved the

602
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: same thing. And I'm calling myself in to say, hey,

603
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: you can be straight and have a shaved head. I mean,

604
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: it's very nineties to have one of my favorite characters

605
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: ever in a movie Vampire Records, Robin Tuney, she shaves

606
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: her head and umpire records. I just had a realization,

607
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,959
Speaker 1: which is that there needs to be a Shanade O'Connor biopic,

608
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: and Natalie Portman should play her, not Robin Tuney. You

609
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: don't think she was the acting chops. I just think,

610
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: why not have like a huge, famous actress who is

611
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: going to be yeah, no, I mean big role and

612
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: don't go job with it. Playing Natalie would be fab

613
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: And I feel like, also the Natalie's and the scar Jo's,

614
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: they've been reaching for these trans roles for a while

615
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: and trying to get these oscar beating things, and it's like,

616
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: what about Natalie in fact your Irish accent, Yeah, she

617
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: would be and she would so commit to the area.

618
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: She would so commit to the dialo coach like she

619
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: would I mean, obviously we know she looks amazing in

620
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: the shape head right, she has such a stature. The stature,

621
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: she's like fatigue. She could play young but also play

622
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: old like her face. She could play like Rosta Shanade.

623
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: She could play like young beaten shanade. She could play

624
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: like Muslim shanade. Right. Where simple to get into. Currently

625
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: O'Connor is a practicing Muslim. She's been in his job

626
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: since twenty which she feels sort of at the end

627
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: of the okay, where were we diamond, how like she's

628
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: gets a little bit doulas all and kind of like

629
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: a rostera vibes, yes, because I feel like she does.

630
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: I don't think she she doesn't think she's black. Well,

631
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: like at one point she like did maybe when it

632
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: was the lad the second wave, when she's like riding

633
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: in so many like cars with them, Okay, this was

634
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: actually and she's like, I am rasta, Well she did.

635
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: I mean she converted to a restaurant. Isn't is religion?

636
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: It is? Right? Yes, she didn't she like convert and

637
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: she did, yeah, and she was like and that phase

638
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: lasted for like twenty years. I feel yeah, she was

639
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: low key rash. She was like low key Rosta when

640
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: I saw her live at City Winary. I didn't block

641
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: it out, but I forgot about it. Yeah, I mean

642
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: that was such an incredible era in our lives. The City,

643
00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: the City Winery year. That's when I was working as

644
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: an usher. Um. It was sort of between careers and yeah,

645
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: just figuring you out, you figuring stuff out, sort of

646
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 1: washed up political speechwriter, like what am I gonna do

647
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 1: with my life? Maybe I'll be not sure at this,

648
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: maybe I'll be a comedian. But first, but first, but

649
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: sust ushers um and I saw a lot of amazing

650
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: performances there. And I took my ex boyfriend John Arthur,

651
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 1: which is kind of an Irish sounding name, John Arthur.

652
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 1: Well anything with you know, Pope John Pupe, John John

653
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 1: Arthur Arthur our second date. I mean, this is such

654
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 1: a good second date. I took him to City Winery

655
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: to see Shanado O'Connor, which is like so cool. Wait,

656
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,720
Speaker 1: that's literally like so too can play that game. Hey, hey,

657
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: I just picked up some tickets. I was wondering, I

658
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 1: don't know, you want to go seven pm? Try back up?

659
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: And he's listening to the voice about just being like no,

660
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:56,399
Speaker 1: I love It's like damn um, and I was like, yeah,

661
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,439
Speaker 1: because she's punk and like he was kind of punk.

662
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I'm so shocked by you doing

663
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: that that I dropped my book. That was cool, we

664
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: said at a high top. I thought it was a

665
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 1: good it was a great day, m so. And again

666
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: not to aid you and not to pry now to

667
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: place this in the po was actually crazy. I just

668
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: realized this was in twenty thirteen. Damn, I know, twenty thirteen.

669
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: I know it feels like yesterday. So straight up eighty

670
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: ago years ago? Yeah, well was it the fall, so

671
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: it wasn't fully eight years ago. But she was okay,

672
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: So she were oaks the whole time. Okay, she was.

673
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: She was in this kind of like slash at the sides.

674
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 1: It was a little bit of a rasta e kind

675
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: of top okay, like kind of torn, kind of like

676
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 1: a little bit torn and that you know that way

677
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: that like girl where it's like the T shirt material

678
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: is like the cotton is that kind of hanging well?

679
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 1: Is it that thing that like punk girls do when

680
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 1: you do like slashes in between. No, but I think

681
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 1: it was more like it was a purchased piece, Like

682
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 1: I don't think it was self slashed and then purchase, purchase, slash,

683
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: purchase last I just kind of like boot cut jeans,

684
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 1: and she didn't take her glasses off the whole time,

685
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 1: and like obviously shaved had and it was, you know,

686
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: it was intense, and she like spoke about God, and

687
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: she like did a lot of songs like I never

688
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: heard of, because like I'm not really familiar with her repertoire,

689
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: with her catalog, and like she brought out friends at

690
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: one point. She's just like, these are my friends, but

691
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: it was I think it just kind of like random

692
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: checks or her friends, like they weren't like performing or anything.

693
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 1: There's like her friends. Yeah. That also I think I

694
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: again another assumption I made about her that she was,

695
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 1: you know a little bit more of like a loaner

696
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: and like she's definitely like weird and mental or whatever.

697
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 1: But I think she's like very friendly and like has

698
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: a ton of friends, even though she ruins friendships a

699
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 1: lot because she's like which she blames on her childhood

700
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: and like goes off, which I can see happening. And

701
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: like she says she was friends with Daniel day Lewis

702
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: until she screamed at him and she was like, and

703
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: I'm really fond of him, but like we haven't spoken

704
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: in twenty five years. I absolutely missed that part. Okay, wait,

705
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:07,280
Speaker 1: I continue the I'm going to find this while so yeah, anyway,

706
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: I shake O'Connor, and then I think after that we

707
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: went to like a party. I thought it was like

708
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: a really good date. But in retrospect now I'm like, Okay,

709
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 1: maybe that actually was a little bit too high pressure

710
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: of a second date. And I'm just like, maybe that

711
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,760
Speaker 1: was why the relationship, like how to sort of underline

712
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: attention to it, because it started with like too much

713
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 1: expectation and you felt like you were giving like too

714
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 1: much powder. Looking back, too much powder, much powder powder

715
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: of the film, I think that's fabulous. And to quote

716
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 1: my Irish exterminator, he says, men don't take women on

717
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: dates anymore, right, And it's like, why wouldn't you want

718
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: to take someone out to a restaurant, Why wouldn't you

719
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,240
Speaker 1: want to take out some to a concert ticket? Yeah,

720
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: to a concert. I'm taking you to a concert ticket.

721
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: But also it's so swingers words. If you asked me now,

722
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 1: like should I take a guy to kind of big

723
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: name concert second date? I would just be like like,

724
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 1: absolutely not you desperate asked. You would always tell me

725
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: that I'm so desperate. I feel like at the time

726
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: you probably did think I was desperate, but you gave

727
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 1: me like you were just like, no, that's cute, it's casual.

728
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: It's like you got the free ticket. Actually, I'm kind

729
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 1: of actually now, maybe I never remember his advice or

730
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: knowing this is the advice three game, because you would

731
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 1: have said, well, you get them for free because you're

732
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: working there, so like it doesn't have to seem so desperate,

733
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: because exactly what I said, I was like, you know,

734
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: it's so ridiculous because you got free tickets, so it

735
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,760
Speaker 1: takes the pressure off, like I bought forty eight dollars

736
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: ninety five tickets. I mean, and that is true, and

737
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: I probably stand at it, hey, like I shin O'Connor's

738
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: playing at my work at my job because I'm so

739
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: like jobby jobby job, but like job Barella just um yeah,

740
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: maybe like come through week ago and it could be fun.

741
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 1: And I was probably being like, yeah, it's probably like

742
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 1: so stupid. Man, I'm she's like totally from the nineties,

743
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: like who cares, But like wasn't he to really go

744
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,399
Speaker 1: into this. I feel like he does really like sad. Yeah,

745
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: I feel like he. I mean, I don't know if

746
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: you really like. I mean, I'm also getting them anything

747
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:12,720
Speaker 1: he's listening. Um. I also am really into her first

748
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 1: two albums, I'll say, and kind of no, yeah, I

749
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: wouldn't say like I know every song by heart, but

750
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 1: you know, I mean it's so kind of like that

751
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: era of like to have like first two albums that

752
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: are like so strong and everyone loves and then you

753
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 1: randomly have eight nine more albums two thousand and one,

754
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 1: two thousand, and they're all this they're and like all

755
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: the like two thousand era albums are kind of just

756
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: like greater sting energy where they're like a little bit world,

757
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 1: a little bit Eastern, like just like kind of positive

758
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 1: and like really general in this way, but like have

759
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: no hits. No, I know, I'm trying to find the

760
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: part where she's like talking about some of her favorite songs.

761
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: That part of the book there was like a full

762
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: like forty pages that was just her kind of listening

763
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 1: every song and all was cool. It's for the fans.

764
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: It's like you want to know what they're as someone

765
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: who is not so deeply familiar with the catalog. I

766
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,399
Speaker 1: was kind of just like, okay, next, that's I think

767
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 1: where I found because she was like, this song was

768
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: about Daniel day Lewis. That's where I found out that part.

769
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 1: And then she was like, this songs for Peter Gabriel,

770
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:21,240
Speaker 1: who I was his weekend pussy just insane. That's so crazy.

771
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: But she was like, and I was done being his

772
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: weekend I'm done being your weekend fast Okay, stop coming

773
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 1: around to my later box. And she was like, Daniel

774
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: dan Lewis, we never made love, but we're great friends

775
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: till I blew up at him. But so I listened

776
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: to some of these later tracks and they're so like

777
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 1: Katie Lang this way, where it's like she's making them

778
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 1: so yeah, their ballads and there are so like kind

779
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: of slow rock standards, and she covers like a Loretta

780
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 1: Lynn song, and she covers a few songs and she's like,

781
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: some of this was my greatest singing, and like, yeah,

782
00:40:55,640 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: they're really not that rocking. Training think about how big

783
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 1: Peter Gabriel's dick is right now I'm looking at photos

784
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: of film also Weekend Pussy. I mean, it's not the

785
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: best that's the weekend that seems top prior. I think

786
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: it's um. I mean, I'm sure he was treating her

787
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 1: like shite. Well, but weekend pussy is also l two am.

788
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 1: It's two am pussy after the show, after you're playing.

789
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: It's not white pussy. You know, it's not Tuesday pussy.

790
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 1: It's not the pussy that you take out to dinner.

791
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 1: So the pussy you text when you haven't even had

792
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: dinner because you've been drinking all night. Let's talk about

793
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: her lovers for a second. Another on the subject, I

794
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: just want to say, I think Peter Gabriel six point

795
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 1: five and kind of thin on the dick. It's just

796
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: a British way. Yeah, look at his face too. Oh,

797
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: I totally agree, thank you now, Daniel Day Lewis, I

798
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: feel like it is like long and thin. Oh, I

799
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: don't think. I think it's long and think it's just here.

800
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: I don't think it's thick. I think it's long and

801
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 1: regular size. I mean, I think it's great, to be honest.

802
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 1: Maybe it curves down, maybe there's a curve somewhere, but

803
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: like not in a really regardless your regardless of regardless

804
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: Daniel Day Fox, Yeah, yeah, absolutely, you know, And it's

805
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: interesting the way she talks about sex. Okay, we actually

806
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 1: I just had this image though maybe it actually is

807
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,919
Speaker 1: like really big but never gets fully hard because it's

808
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 1: so big. Sometimes like, yeah, when it's so big, these

809
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 1: guys like they can't get enough blood done there or

810
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 1: they're kind of like depressed in this way and it

811
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 1: never gets fully hard. It's like this weird mix of

812
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 1: like they feel burdened by the fact that, like people

813
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: expect so much of them because they're big dick. He's

814
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 1: such a method actor that I feel like it depends

815
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: on the movie he's doing. Oh how big his dick gets?

816
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: How hard? Yeah? Yeah, I could see it because he's

817
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 1: a year Yeah, and you know we're him, we're Lincoln

818
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: and Mary tadd a fucking yeah, I don't think so.

819
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 1: I mean him and Shanig seems like kind of a

820
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: Lincoln and Mary Todd relationship, right. Well, so she it's

821
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: a very throwaway line in the part where so she

822
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: and tears later in life for this thing called like

823
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: no Veteran Left Behind, where she visits veterans in hospitals,

824
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: which I was so like, should I do that? That

825
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 1: would be great for you? That would be great. I mean, um,

826
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 1: you mean next summer, Yes, I mean next summer because

827
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: it is the fall. Correct. Yeah. But then I was like, us,

828
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: I've spent so much time just like in a hospice

829
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 1: and just like care one, just like I'm really from

830
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: my father father. Yeah, that's has you back in the

831
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: hospital maybe like you're so like you have so much

832
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: experience there, like you could actually really offer something. Well

833
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: that's what I thought, because you know, there was an

834
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 1: irishman that was next to him laying day in his room,

835
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 1: and my dad, of course, being the b I tc

836
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: H he was was always just like oh that chert

837
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 1: and just like oh, this loser next to me because

838
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: he thought it was because he was like just like

839
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: coughing and he was just like a fully dying irishman

840
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: who like was a World War two definitely a veteran.

841
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,720
Speaker 1: Your dad was just like oh, he like, I'm sorry,

842
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: but he was He wasn't a writer, he wasn't quick

843
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: with a pen. Yeah. I think he like his speech

844
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: was all like messed up. I think he just thought

845
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 1: he was a loser because he had to build himself

846
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: up for being in Krewe. So he was right. He

847
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: was all the square. Yeah, I'm all these with the

848
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: squares and losers. And then my dad would brag and

849
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,399
Speaker 1: he'd be like, yeah, like his son comes and like

850
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 1: doesn't even like he totally doesn't stay that long and

851
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: being so like, yeah, my daughter's come and like stale,

852
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 1: my daughter's fucking camp the fuck out. Wait, can we

853
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: talk about the fact that Snide O'Connor literally is us

854
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: as she calls everyone either a square or a punk's

855
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: it's literally that's being like hippier prep. Yeah, She's like

856
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 1: they're squires. They're squires, that squire, and like everyone that

857
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: she doesn't like in her childhood is someone that she

858
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: says is a square. And but then she also then

859
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 1: like later it's like starts like realizing like producers that

860
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: she works. She's like Nigel, so total square, but I

861
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 1: love them to die, right, she'll come around. She'll like

862
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: everyone in the music business they're squares. None of them

863
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: are punks. And it's just like the world is divided

864
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: into squares and puns, which is so true, absolutely true,

865
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: hippies and preppies. And then she also, which is actually

866
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: so this podcast, she has visions of people's interiors when

867
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 1: she like meets someone and she's just like, I've just

868
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 1: got a vision of your bedroom. It's the right place

869
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 1: cartoons in there. And then the guy was just like, oh, wait, no,

870
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: that's like my sister's bedroom that you're talking about. She

871
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 1: is also so Caputo and she's like being psychic and

872
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: Mike and she's like, and by the way, I'm a psychic.

873
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: And then she also refers she's like, oh, and one

874
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 1: of my sons is also a psychic. And she's just

875
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 1: like constantly meeting someone and like touching their hair. I

876
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 1: mean like, oh, I'm saying something something, I'm seeing a

877
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,439
Speaker 1: large hutch. You're got a big hutch in your dining room.

878
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, so you're obsessed with like guessing what

879
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: people's dirror design is. Via spirit, I think the world

880
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: is either heavi appropriately and the way she talked it's

881
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 1: about like seventies, just some seventies music is so funny.

882
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: When she's just was like, oh, kill myself. She's like,

883
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: my mother played this one marionn Faithful record all the time,

884
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: and maybe want killing myself Faithful as dull as all

885
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:18,240
Speaker 1: hell really reminded me in childhood. I feel like anytime

886
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: my parents put on like an opera or classical. You

887
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: were just like I was like shot off the socks.

888
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: I get like so angry, and we're just like, oh,

889
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 1: we listen to Credence. My parents only played the Beatles

890
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: or Carly Simon or body right. That was class classic

891
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: boomer stuff. I mean, that was it. So it was

892
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: just like sure I liked it. I like knew all

893
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 1: the words the Beatles songs that eventually because it was

894
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: just like the same goddamn six CDs or whatever got

895
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: in every car ride. Feel like your family didn't have

896
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: a lot of CDs, mostly the Beatles one yeah, and

897
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: then it's like and you know, like anytime you're at

898
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: my parents house, it's always just like there's those like

899
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: four four Beatles, four Beetles CDs and like that one

900
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: circle so Lay soundtrack for the one time we went

901
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 1: in Vegas, and then like six random just like piano solos,

902
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: these that are called just like autumn visions by no one,

903
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: and it's just like, okay, boring as parents like don't

904
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 1: listen to me, as like I've never heard of it.

905
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 1: Total squars. They're squars, total squares, But I love them.

906
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: I love him to death Squars, but I love them.

907
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: You know. What I was also realizing recently was that

908
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 1: my mom's favorite beatle was Ringo m And growing up,

909
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: I always thought, okay, So I always thought though that

910
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: that was her being like youngest sibling, like oh, I'll

911
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: take what no one else wants, like I'll just sort

912
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,760
Speaker 1: of like take the least popular one because like everyone

913
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 1: like John or George or whatever or Paul. But now

914
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 1: I feel like maybe she's so me and she like

915
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: skides with dishes and like he has such a big

916
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: hanker and s s and has just like fucked up teeth,

917
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,720
Speaker 1: and he has this kind of like hot, like dumb

918
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: donkey model look to him. Well, your dad kind of

919
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: has dishes, doesn't he. Um. I wouldn't say he's super dishy,

920
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: She's not super dish, but like he's mid dish. I mean,

921
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: I think I mean your ears to get bigger, bigger,

922
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: because my dad has massive ears, and so did my grandmother. Yeah,

923
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: sometimes I'd be like dam but they didn't go out.

924
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: I'd yeah, they didn't go out. They didn't they didn't

925
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 1: like get reception, big old old they weren't getting ESPN

926
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: one through sex. Yeah, And now that you mention it.

927
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: But father's got some dumbos. Yeah, he dumbo sloopy. That's

928
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: the word spy, spy Um. I feel like your mom

929
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: did like dishes. Yeah, maybe that's why. So maybe it's like,

930
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: actually I thought it was like she was loser for

931
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: beating to Ringo, But now I'm like, she's actually cool

932
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 1: for Anyone're gonna make that so me and I inherited

933
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: that dish attraction. Oh wait, we have to talk about

934
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 1: the Prince. Yes, okay, this is what you know, the

935
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: New York Times talked about and we're all the reviews.

936
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 1: She gives a lot of dish in this book about

937
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: talking about speaking of dishes, speaking dishes, but the true

938
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: dish is her meeting with Prince. It's truly. I was

939
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 1: a terrifying I was. It was terrifying. I was reading

940
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 1: every line like, oh, I can't believe this is real.

941
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: It was so mister Burns like it was like it

942
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: was so haunting. It was like this full villain so okay,

943
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: which is also okay, this is not spirit. But like

944
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: my girlfriend made me watch the like Dave Chappelle skit

945
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: the other week where like Eddie Murphy's brother talks about

946
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: going to Prince's house and it's like similarly, similarly, did

947
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,760
Speaker 1: you get hit by a trench in the way here? Anyway,

948
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 1: it's spooky, but in a kooky way. It's like spooky

949
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: came So Schanad covers and he's her biggest song to date,

950
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: comparis to you by Prince because her manager was Prince's manager,

951
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 1: Princess famos me. Now he invites Chanade over. Okay, So

952
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: she gets his phone call no, and it's from Prince

953
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: and he's just like, I want to meet you. And

954
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: she's thinking, oh my god, this is amazing. Like he

955
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 1: loves the clever, he loves her success. It's number one

956
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: in every country. He's so proudly, so happy. So he

957
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: sends a car to pick her up. This limo comes

958
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 1: and picks her up and she gets in. She's chatting

959
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 1: away because she's I because she's Irish, she's a last

960
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:12,879
Speaker 1: she wants to chat and she goes the only people

961
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: who are like talking more than girls are drivers and

962
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 1: he doesn't talk back, So what's going on there? She's thinking,

963
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: this is weird. First red fly okay, right, but there's

964
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 1: and so I don't know there's any more red flags

965
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 1: than a Chinese Communist Party convention. So the car takes

966
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 1: her to Princess mansion, and it really does sound like

967
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: it's like Transylvania, Like it's like it's out of his

968
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: family and like up a windy road and it's like

969
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 1: big windy house, like behind gates, like getting into this courtyard.

970
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 1: And I do feel like all the shutters are like faces,

971
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 1: and no, there's so many gargoyles. So then the driver

972
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,399
Speaker 1: just motions with his head for her to get out.

973
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: She gets out, the driver drives off, so she's like

974
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 1: beads away. She's stuck. She goes up like gargle. She

975
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: all of a sudden realizes, I don't know the address. Yeah,

976
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: I don't know where I am. And honey, there's no

977
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 1: there's no cell here to Greater Minneapolis. Okay, was I

978
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: think in La? Oh? I guess I assumed I think

979
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: it was because up, yeah it wasn't. I think this

980
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: was before. So a man opens the door. A man

981
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 1: opens the door, who she refers to his igor because

982
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: it's just like being and just been like hello or

983
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,240
Speaker 1: franken sign or whatever it is, right, whatever the reference,

984
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 1: we all we get it. Um being such like a

985
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: big surfriend. She walks and the windows are all covered

986
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 1: with tinfoil, terrifying, which like that I'm like, I'm just like,

987
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,399
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm running out of the house. The only

988
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 1: time that's ever happened to me quickly, I'll say, once

989
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: in front of the pod Sam and I cleaned for

990
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 1: a goth woman in these village who covered her windows

991
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: and tinfoil. She was like afraid of the light and

992
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,320
Speaker 1: afraid of mirrors. And she was also, of course um

993
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: studying to be a funeral director, really committing to the

994
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: bit and had like, of course vintage funeral equipment. Okay,

995
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 1: so she was just like a dark golf girl. Yeah,

996
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 1: just like who wanted to like run such an oddities shop.

997
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 1: And I had so many heads in Formalda, Hi, she

998
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 1: defining odds so finding Okay, Yeah, I literally have been

999
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,879
Speaker 1: hit in the head in Ireland in nineteen seventy three

1000
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 1: by a stupid twelve year old boy. It was just

1001
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 1: having a gas on a train. Little did he know

1002
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: who's going to run my life forever like my mental

1003
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: So she's in Prince's mansion there on the windows. She

1004
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: like gets to the kitchen and then she's just been

1005
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: like Okay, now I'm weirdly in the kitchen and like

1006
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 1: there's this like breakfast bar and she's like equal at

1007
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: least for a long So she's like rooting around just

1008
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: being like, well, loop, what's going on here? And then

1009
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 1: she like she said, then she says the under the

1010
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: sink is kind of messy. She was like wanting to

1011
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: know what his cleaning products work. Oh wait, that was

1012
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,839
Speaker 1: insane because again that was being so so us so

1013
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 1: us and just like being like, well what do you

1014
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 1: clean with around here? Like are you chlorox? Are you

1015
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 1: missus Myers? Yeah? I was like you literally are us?

1016
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,439
Speaker 1: I'm so opening cabinets and then she's like so she's

1017
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,800
Speaker 1: rooting her mouth and then like it's like maybe I

1018
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: should start cleaning for him because like this place is

1019
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 1: kind of messy. And then Prince comes in or she

1020
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: calls him fluffy cuffs cuffs, She's like he's wearing all

1021
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,399
Speaker 1: the makeup that boy George has ever purchased in his life.

1022
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:25,240
Speaker 1: At once, like she's basically this is insane. Another person

1023
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 1: who it's like, so you're not gay, Prince. They're like icons,

1024
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 1: straight icons, they're straight gay icons. Yeah, you can wear

1025
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 1: fluffy cuffs and all the makeup in the world and

1026
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 1: be straight. You can have a shaved head, and I

1027
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: mean he was always like fucking women, right, So it's like, yeah,

1028
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: she was all always fucking men. They're actually straight to name, Yeah, yeah,

1029
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: I mean he's much more gay than she has a

1030
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:50,240
Speaker 1: lesbian I think I agree. So then he like says

1031
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: something like okay. Then he like tells she finds out

1032
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 1: basically that Igor as she calls him and his brother,

1033
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: and then she's like from her childhood is so like sketch,

1034
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: the fact that like he treats his brother like this

1035
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,799
Speaker 1: weird serfant. But then he's also like then he tells

1036
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: her like, oh, I don't like what you've been saying

1037
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 1: about how you've been talking to the press, and like

1038
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: I think that like you're misbehaving, and he's he's Jehovah,

1039
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: so it's Christian thing. He's always like, oh, when you're

1040
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 1: saying fucking like, you can't be saying fuck yeah. And

1041
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 1: she's like, you can't tell me what to say, well,

1042
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 1: because no, because because he's like, we don't use that

1043
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 1: kind of language. She's like, oh, what do you mean English?

1044
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: And then he's like I thought your eye or she's

1045
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: like they beat it out of us. Oh so iconic,

1046
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,399
Speaker 1: so iconic. So then he's like he's like being really

1047
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 1: tense with her. And then he's like, oh, like sit down,

1048
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: did we're gonna have dinner. We're gonna have soup. And

1049
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:38,240
Speaker 1: then she's trying to be like, oh I'm not actually

1050
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: hungry for the soup and that she's like, I know,

1051
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: not to eat your creetos. Gonna be so the beguiled.

1052
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: Well then first though, he offers her a drink and

1053
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: she's like, I'll have a drink, but nothing alcoholic makes

1054
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 1: me crazy. Oh no, and then he slams the glass down.

1055
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 1: He's like, get it yourself, and it's like, okay, you're

1056
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 1: being other calls for a limo to bring to his man,

1057
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: and then slams the glass. Sences get it yourself, and

1058
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 1: you're like okay, so again, what is the address? So

1059
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: then they have the soup dinner and she's not eating.

1060
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 1: She's not in soup. He's eating soups. So he's slowly

1061
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: in his huge fluffy cuffs like eating this butternut squaws.

1062
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: I was, yeah, I was picturea butter and squash or

1063
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 1: maybe like split pea. Like it's definitely it's like a

1064
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,800
Speaker 1: you know, not a not a chicken noodle, nothing with chunks.

1065
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:26,359
Speaker 1: It seems very very great. It's very baby. We both

1066
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:31,240
Speaker 1: had the same vision, same visions. We have visions. Superficions

1067
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:34,359
Speaker 1: have super visions. We can see people's soups. And then

1068
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 1: he's like, how about a pillow fight? And she's like

1069
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 1: and then she's like okay, cool, no, like this will

1070
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: be fun like nineties stuff. I mean, that was so

1071
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: true when you're like, okay, well, princess asking me to

1072
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 1: have a pillow fight, like yeah, let's like funk this

1073
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 1: up and maybe like things will you know, be better.

1074
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 1: Except he gets you go get he gets two pillows,

1075
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 1: and then she realized it's that his pillow has some

1076
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 1: hard object in the case, literally stuff with rocks. So

1077
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: he's beating her and she's like actually like getting the

1078
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:07,320
Speaker 1: kit with just like some like candelabra, and she's just like, okay,

1079
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 1: what the fuck, you're actually cheat at this fellow and

1080
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 1: you're like actually trying to beat me to death and

1081
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 1: you're like psycho Adam family man actor just creepy soup.

1082
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,399
Speaker 1: And so they're like she's running and running and trying

1083
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 1: to run away. And then he's like, oh, fine, take

1084
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 1: my limo, I guess, and she's like, I'm not getting

1085
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: that fucking thing. So she literally leaves the house and

1086
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 1: just like runs out into his yard and then she

1087
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 1: can see that he's trying to follow her, and she's

1088
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:31,839
Speaker 1: wearing this like white jacket. She takes it up because

1089
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 1: she has like a black turtleneck on her, and she's

1090
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: like hiding in the like brush. She's like, oh, she

1091
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 1: he's actually gonna kill me. And then she sees his

1092
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: like car driving down the like windy Transylvania road like

1093
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 1: down to the valley. It's like the one on one

1094
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 1: or whatever. She just like crawls through the brush like

1095
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: down to the highway, and then he finally catches up

1096
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: with her, terrifying not that part was crazy, and because

1097
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 1: she's like, no, she's she's trying to thumb it. Yes,

1098
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: she's trying to thumb it to civilization. So like she's

1099
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 1: out there trying to hitchhike, and then who pulls up

1100
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 1: but Prince and then he's like get it in and

1101
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: then he gets out. He starts chasing her around the car.

1102
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: She screams something at him, like I'm gonna tell him

1103
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 1: you touch not like you touch children. But like I

1104
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: feel like she finally says something and he's like, you

1105
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 1: know what this is? She figures out some ploy. Oh

1106
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: I think it's just oh no, no, something her father

1107
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 1: told her. He said, if you're ever in trouble with

1108
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: a man, go to a house, ring the doorbell. Tell

1109
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 1: him I'm policeman. So once she starts ringing doorbells, Princess like,

1110
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think she told him her father

1111
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 1: was a policeman. No, but I think Prince was like, well,

1112
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: I don't want people he's a shot at I don't

1113
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 1: want people to think that Princess chasing Shinnat Oconnor in

1114
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 1: the highway. Yeah, so so fucking Psycho. I was like,

1115
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 1: this is insane and compariant, just like this Eddie Murphy

1116
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 1: tale where like he made all of Eddie Murphy and

1117
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 1: his crew like play basketball against him and then gave

1118
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 1: him all pancakes. Sorry, Eddie Murphy made no Prince invited

1119
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 1: Eddie Murphy and all Eddie Murphy's crew to Prince's house

1120
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: when he like has like a regulation basketball court in

1121
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 1: minneapolish and gave them all Eddie Murphy's crew shorts. I'm

1122
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 1: literally just got man damask. But anyway, watch that. It's like,

1123
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 1: that's the PG gay. He's like obviously, it's also very

1124
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 1: this like to play a game with me, This is

1125
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 1: very gay. Like to me, it's like Prince is gay

1126
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 1: and like to be beating this girl with rob, be

1127
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 1: a crazy shut in. It like to be this like baby,

1128
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 1: like spoiled, like angry, shutting about having your brother, your

1129
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 1: like larger brother, be like your weird little servant and

1130
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 1: with your little puread soup. It's so gay, it's gay.

1131
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 1: I think Prince was guy. I mean Michael Jackson was

1132
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 1: gay too, and he also lived in a crazy mansion, right,

1133
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 1: And it's like Prince, yes, he like fucked a lot

1134
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 1: of women. Doesn't mean he wasn't. Thank you gay. Thank

1135
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 1: you as many men throughout history. Now you can fuck

1136
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 1: women and still be guy. I want to give I

1137
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 1: want people to read this book. So we should probably

1138
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 1: go to Segmontes. Wait, we should, but I just wanted

1139
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 1: to me, did you see the part did you clock

1140
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 1: very briefly when she came out as ace. That's that's

1141
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 1: what I kept on being like, we need to get

1142
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 1: to this. Okay, Yeah, so that's what I'm saying about.

1143
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 1: She's like, oh, I fucked him. I fucked him, I

1144
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 1: married him, I fucked him. I wanted to jump his bones.

1145
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 1: She was like, oh, and if he like wasn't to me,

1146
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 1: I would have jumped his bones like a monkey. And

1147
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: then in the veteran hall, when the guy is like, oh,

1148
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:36,479
Speaker 1: you're a lesbian, she's like no, I'm like strange. She's like, well,

1149
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 1: he wouldn't have gotten it. But what I really wanted

1150
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 1: to tell him was Ami sexual. And it's like, okay,

1151
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 1: what because then she said she was a lesbian, and

1152
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 1: it's like many times working throughout this book, and she's

1153
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 1: like fucking so many guys, I having four different guess

1154
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 1: four different people. But then at the end she was like,

1155
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 1: I would take a companion, but I guess is still

1156
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 1: just a sexual. Yeah, I mean she's also a devout Muslim. No.

1157
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 1: I think the asexual veteran visiting part work because also

1158
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 1: at the end she says she wants to like go

1159
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 1: to a vacational school and become a healthcare assistant, become

1160
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 1: like a nurse's assistant, and you're And she's like, so

1161
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 1: I could do something besides too. What's that? My name

1162
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 1: is Christy, I'm a nurse's assistant. I went brying University

1163
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 1: and I'm looking for love. I also sing um in

1164
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 1: a John may I cover band every other weekend down

1165
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 1: at Holly's Bar and grow in aub and mass segment

1166
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 1: Joseph and Mary. Why does she late? Why does she wear?

1167
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 1: Does she live? Always mess it up? It's because of

1168
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 1: my brain. It's because you're a brain. Because you got

1169
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 1: hit by the train. By train. Well, you know, one

1170
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: got trained brain. When I was playing a little league,

1171
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 1: don't you get hit with the ball? I was playing catcher.

1172
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, but you got that big mask on a

1173
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 1: boy swung not in that not in the head with

1174
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 1: the he swung the bat. Hit me on the elbow.

1175
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 1: Oh that funny, that funny bout it hurts. Didn't hit

1176
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 1: the brain though maybe it affected it anyway. I'm sorry, God,

1177
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 1: that's why you don't like Elaba pasta exactly. For traumatizing. Okay, um,

1178
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 1: what does she eat? Nothing? Okay, get out of my head.

1179
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 1: The only time she was like, oh my cravings when

1180
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 1: I was pregnant, Lime pickles, sausage silence. Oh yeah, when

1181
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 1: I had yeshim, I only craved silence. Silence, just like

1182
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 1: going from pickles to silence, I mean goals. Yeah, for dinner,

1183
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 1: I had silence. New diet it's a really good one. Um.

1184
01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 1: But she says the reason why she thinks her kids

1185
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 1: are she had two of her kids are chefs, it's

1186
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:03,439
Speaker 1: because she's such a back cook, she said. A back cook.

1187
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 1: I mean she is like obviously randomly like getting takeaway

1188
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 1: and like being so yeah, she's probably getting and getting

1189
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 1: a pitta and like and akebab and a cabab and

1190
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 1: maybe like dabbing at a lentil, a curried lentil stew. Yeah,

1191
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 1: and you know other things. I mean, Oh, I think

1192
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:29,919
Speaker 1: she's kind of juice though in a Jamaican way, yes,

1193
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 1: because she likes to hang out the juice shop with

1194
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 1: her roster, with Terry and her roster friends and like,

1195
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 1: Oh that was the one other thing that was insane

1196
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 1: was hearing the backstory of the Pope photo, which was

1197
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 1: that the photo was literally the photo that hung above

1198
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 1: her mom's bedroom. Oh and it was like and she

1199
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 1: had carried it with her ever since her mom died.

1200
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 1: Because she knew one day she wanted to tear it

1201
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 1: into and she was waiting for the right moment, and

1202
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 1: then she was like, oh, this is my moment. I'm

1203
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 1: going to do it on national television. And it was

1204
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 1: the same weekend that her roster friend in New York, Terry,

1205
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 1: told her that he was going to be murdered because

1206
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 1: of like he was running with children, and she was like,

1207
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 1: I will never forgive you. We are such great friends,

1208
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 1: but the fact that like you are using children by

1209
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 1: running guns with children in their backpacks, like is evil.

1210
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 1: And he was like, I am going to die on Monday.

1211
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 1: And then literally she ripped the photo on Saturday and

1212
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 1: on Monday he was murdered. Capo, I mean he told her. Yeah.

1213
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 1: But still, okay, um, what does she wear? Well, okay,

1214
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 1: so let's just talk about some of the iconic outfits. Yeah,

1215
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 1: she worked at this cafe called bad Ass in Dublin

1216
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 1: and pizza place and the teacher that's a nice ass. No,

1217
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 1: it's a nice pizza ass. Nice pizza ass. Do you

1218
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 1: get it right? Nice pizzas? No, see it again, nice

1219
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 1: pizza ass, nice piece of ass. She got it, I

1220
01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 1: got it. We got a second here, we got them,

1221
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 1: but now let's do this. But you aren't mean because

1222
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 1: she says the book and she was like, I didn't.

1223
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 1: I never got the joke until like thirteen years later,

1224
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 1: and she goes, I kid you not. I didn't get

1225
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 1: the joke at thirteen years later. So you know, again,

1226
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 1: the two of you both have your training, we have

1227
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 1: our brain injuries, and we're badass and were punks. Um. Also,

1228
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 1: she's so just like little scut Tank I mean the nineties,

1229
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 1: like tank top. Yeah, she was being yeah, steel steel toes,

1230
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 1: like plaid pants, shaved head, I mean, she looked fucking hot. Yeah.

1231
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 1: Well they're like, don't shave your head and she said,

1232
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna shave my head. Yeah. She was like, fuck,

1233
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 1: you tell me how girl's supposed to dress. I'm gonna

1234
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 1: look like I want to look. I'll do what I want.

1235
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 1: And then she laughed at them. She she made some

1236
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 1: joke and they, you know, they gave her respect. I mean,

1237
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 1: it's funny because she just she literally did that right

1238
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 1: before first album came out, because those record exacts were

1239
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 1: being like, you know, how her do this, like where

1240
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 1: I dressed whatever, and she did it just so they

1241
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 1: couldn't have control of her and then she stuck with

1242
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 1: it forever. She really did. It wasn't like oh and

1243
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 1: then she had so In the book Pink who abandoned

1244
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 1: her pink hair after her first album literally and now

1245
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 1: just runs up injured. She has these like photos of

1246
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 1: her and a wig, like a bob wig. And she

1247
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 1: looks really kind of like Elizabeth Taylor meets Demi Moore

1248
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 1: in the back of the book. Yeah, she really. I

1249
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 1: mean she looks like Audrey Hepburn classic. She's got a

1250
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 1: gorgeous face. Yeah, I mean, that's it when you she

1251
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 1: can rock the shaped head bones, there's like big almond eyes.

1252
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 1: I mean, she's really beautiful. She's gorgeous, and that's why

1253
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 1: she can. She's always rocked the shaped head because she

1254
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 1: can pull it off. Yeah, because she can pull it off.

1255
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 1: Sweet at if I could, I would and clearly now

1256
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 1: or her twenty thirteen style was like throwing in some

1257
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 1: oke leys. And now she's in her job. Yeah, now

1258
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 1: she's a job and she's she's faces. Oh, but she

1259
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 1: had that other iconic T shirt while she was super pregnant.

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01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 1: She wore a T shirt that's a Nita condom or

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01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 1: something where where men. Yeah, I really kind of missing

1262
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 1: the T shirt. There's something sassy like that, and I

1263
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 1: love that. I also love ridiculous T shirts. I mean,

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01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:15,320
Speaker 1: I guess that's like, so when she's home, she's she's

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01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 1: in a big fisherman's sweater. I mean, her job is

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01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 1: just the head scarf. He's not like a full burka.

1267
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 1: She's just wearing the headscarf and then probably wearing like something.

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01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 1: I feel like she kind of still is in boot

1269
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:30,440
Speaker 1: cut jeans and like just a gauzy sweater. Yeah, but

1270
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 1: being a little bit like nineties nineties like um, not seapunk,

1271
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 1: but a little bit like water World eco punk, you

1272
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 1: know what I mean with the torn stuff. I think

1273
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 1: also she may be in like a ragged big wool

1274
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 1: sweater and also some gauzy, loose pale. She is like

1275
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:50,920
Speaker 1: kind of like eco punk for life thinking because she

1276
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 1: lives like in a seaside village and she's like I

1277
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 1: washed the waves in the morning, I smoked too much

1278
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 1: to go inside where and she lives wear I think

1279
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 1: she actually even though she was like I'm never returning

1280
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 1: to Dublin, I think she lives in Ireland, in her

1281
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 1: hometown or her home maybe in her homeland more of

1282
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 1: a seaside village in Ireland, and she has like a

1283
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 1: nice just like it's not a castle, but no, I

1284
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 1: feel like she has a medium sized nice house. She

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01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 1: references like did she go to the mental hospital only

1286
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 1: have only having eight thousand dollars? Oh, and then and

1287
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 1: then she did the whole doctor Phil thing. I mean

1288
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:26,440
Speaker 1: we I guess we won't really get into her crazy

1289
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 1: like Arra when she like remember when she wrote that

1290
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 1: for you? Yeah, I mean the whole doctor Phil Cyrus thing. Remember, yeah,

1291
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 1: that's for you to pick book, Like this book is

1292
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 1: really more about her story, her eyes, and not just

1293
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 1: the fucking sentational headlines. Hell, yes, I guess. I mean,

1294
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 1: is is she Buddha? It's like I guess she isn't

1295
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 1: because now she's so much I think it's like more.

1296
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 1: But is she like getting rid of all her roster

1297
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 1: ship now that she's Muslim? No, because she's ling thing

1298
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 1: he's my gorgeous signed copy of the Korean Like it's

1299
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 1: just like, wait, that reminds me. I don't think she's

1300
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 1: getting rid of it because I went to this estate

1301
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:08,439
Speaker 1: sale and it was like an orthodox Jewish woman's house

1302
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 1: and there was like this funky cheek of there, you know,

1303
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 1: shopping and I had all these like wigs and stuff.

1304
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 1: And she comes upon a prayer book and goes to

1305
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 1: the woman running the estate sale and is like, um,

1306
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 1: oh my god, oh my god, this is really disrespectful.

1307
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 1: And the woman is like running the state sale is

1308
01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 1: like what and she's like, the family didn't want the

1309
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 1: prayer books and the woman is like, the family have

1310
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 1: the time to take the stuff, and she's just like wow,

1311
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:39,560
Speaker 1: and then she buys like the prayer books for like

1312
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:42,639
Speaker 1: five dollars or whatever. But so so I don't think

1313
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is I think Channad has Bibles from childhood.

1314
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 1: I think she has like she holds onto things, but

1315
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:52,679
Speaker 1: her children aren't going to be taking them when she dies,

1316
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:54,760
Speaker 1: and that will be disrespectful of her children when that

1317
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:58,320
Speaker 1: does happen. I feel like she's having like oh okay,

1318
01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 1: but people weren't changing religions. No. I just think Channaid

1319
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 1: is more sentimental and not throwing up prayer book because

1320
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:08,599
Speaker 1: I feel like she thinks that's haunted. She thinks it's

1321
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:11,800
Speaker 1: haunted to throw away something. Yeah, that's just I don't know.

1322
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 1: If you're of that, but she but that's what I'm

1323
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 1: saying though, but like to her Dula's dollary, like she

1324
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 1: does like change identity. So I'm like, maybe she is

1325
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:21,040
Speaker 1: Jetta scene like the previous identity, and maybe there's like

1326
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:24,679
Speaker 1: literally just like no raster stuff and no roster stuff,

1327
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 1: no Catholic stuff. But she talks about like keeping like

1328
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 1: random stuff of her. Pat's true and she did keep

1329
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 1: the pope footed for like so many years before she

1330
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 1: run the right tended rippon. She's like, oh, this was

1331
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 1: my father's like schoollyard pin or something. Okay, she's keeping everything.

1332
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:43,360
Speaker 1: The house is pretty well cluttered. It's like there's chests.

1333
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 1: I think there's chess, but I also like do think

1334
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 1: it's a little bit bare at times because she won't silence,

1335
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:55,679
Speaker 1: Like there's chess and there's like there's like a memory's room. Yeah,

1336
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 1: I think there's a memory moom kimono as Mari Gondo.

1337
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 1: Remember when I lived in Albuquerque, was working on that

1338
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:07,599
Speaker 1: Senate campaign, and the campaign manager had the Michael Jackson

1339
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 1: room in her house. Oh wow, forgot about that one. Wow.

1340
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 1: It's one room in her Rio Rancho like development house

1341
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 1: where I was living in the casita, and there was

1342
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 1: an entire room that was Jess Michael Jackson Amalia. So

1343
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:24,560
Speaker 1: it's like I could see maybe Chani in her like

1344
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 1: seaside four bedroom having one room that's just like so

1345
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:35,639
Speaker 1: many old bibles and photos and corrections. I mean, she's

1346
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 1: proud of her She must have the gold records framed

1347
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 1: alto in the memory room. I feel like that's actually

1348
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 1: in a separate room that's in the basement recording studio.

1349
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:46,719
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there is a recording there's a recording studio,

1350
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 1: and then there's like an ante room that's like where

1351
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:52,720
Speaker 1: you can sit and listen to records. And then I

1352
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 1: just picture this living room that's like kind of seaside

1353
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:57,640
Speaker 1: but not in a way that's like a pillow with

1354
01:10:57,720 --> 01:10:59,600
Speaker 1: an anchor on it. It's just also kind of a

1355
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:03,639
Speaker 1: call it's ego punk. Also, it's maybe like a blanket

1356
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:09,600
Speaker 1: from her good friend's yarn. Yeah, Ka Kia made me

1357
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:12,640
Speaker 1: this blanket for yes show when he was born. Um,

1358
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:14,840
Speaker 1: it means a lot to me in my family. And

1359
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 1: then you know, some pillows she maybe has one. Television's small. Yeah,

1360
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:23,680
Speaker 1: she's definitely not like eighty six in TV. At the

1361
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:27,719
Speaker 1: same time, though, Okay, she is kookie and like committed

1362
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 1: to mental institutions recently, and like remember when she was

1363
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:32,800
Speaker 1: like you can't take my eyepath. Oh, so maybe she

1364
01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:35,080
Speaker 1: is kind of like I think she actually is like

1365
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 1: big mounted TV in the bedroom and in the living

1366
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:39,840
Speaker 1: room in the most normal boom away and just is

1367
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 1: she's like watching oh, because at the end she was

1368
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 1: like the pandemic. She also is just watching Mad Out

1369
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 1: and she's like, so sec Trump, Yeah, oh he's mental.

1370
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 1: She's competition be in the institution. She's completely normal in

1371
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 1: Blue Pill now and like she is because the book

1372
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 1: ends with this one page epilogue that's just like and

1373
01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:58,680
Speaker 1: the world's changed and I can't go on tour and

1374
01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:01,600
Speaker 1: fuck Ron. If Trump was a president of Ireland, they

1375
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:04,599
Speaker 1: drag him out in the first week. She's definitely watching

1376
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 1: like three seasons of Road Church on her the Midwifer's

1377
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:13,679
Speaker 1: Daughter or whatever that show was. Yeah. Oh, she also

1378
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:18,679
Speaker 1: references Father Ted. She referenced Father Ted right, which which

1379
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 1: your uncle now passed, which Blancle the Past gave to

1380
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:23,760
Speaker 1: me the DVDs and we watched them on our old TV,

1381
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:28,000
Speaker 1: so watch DVDs. So yeah, but she's taken a little

1382
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 1: bit of peep show too, maybe the British comedies, Yeah,

1383
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 1: because she loves that British hummer. Yeah, loves to laugh

1384
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 1: a little. Okay, Well, I think we now we now

1385
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:38,439
Speaker 1: whore in the book, I think, oh, I know, I know.

1386
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 1: I am. Well you think we're we're But I'm also okay,

1387
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:45,720
Speaker 1: So I think when she goes to Jamaica, oh, you're

1388
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 1: her gay friend, her gay friend who has the affair

1389
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:49,760
Speaker 1: with the waiter, and she was like the whole time,

1390
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:51,800
Speaker 1: like because you can get like three years in prison

1391
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 1: for being engaged Jamaica, so I had to like stop

1392
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 1: him from ugly and the men around us so they're

1393
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:58,760
Speaker 1: like they wouldn't get suspicious you're at that point, or

1394
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:00,559
Speaker 1: you're her gay friend. I'm the gay friend who has

1395
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:04,280
Speaker 1: who's like sucking the waiter in his Samaka hotel. And

1396
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:06,640
Speaker 1: that's also even more shade of me to be like

1397
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 1: blocking and be like I do. And then I'm also

1398
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 1: doing this whole show where I'm like putting on a

1399
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 1: star wrong and like pretending to be horny for these

1400
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:22,679
Speaker 1: guys to like distract everyone from you. I am yeah, done,

1401
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:26,559
Speaker 1: let's do it done. Okay, book the Trip, Okay, well,

1402
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 1: I give this book. I give like the first half

1403
01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:33,559
Speaker 1: of this book like four out of five Irish crosses,

1404
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 1: I give it. Then the second half, to me, it

1405
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:39,639
Speaker 1: kind of a little mental. It gets a little mental,

1406
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:41,439
Speaker 1: and it kind of drags, and it's not it's not

1407
01:13:41,640 --> 01:13:43,800
Speaker 1: as an inspired and product, and like it's a little

1408
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 1: like less. You're not really getting as much story and artive.

1409
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 1: So to me, the second half is maybe like two

1410
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 1: out of five brutal beatings from a priest. For me,

1411
01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:56,880
Speaker 1: I'm giving it just as a whole eight point two

1412
01:13:56,960 --> 01:14:00,720
Speaker 1: shamrocks out of ten sharm rocks, because I think the

1413
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 1: end it gets a little mad. But if you're into

1414
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 1: the madness and you're into the music, yeah, you can

1415
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:08,640
Speaker 1: get into music, can really get into it. Yeah. But

1416
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 1: the first half true poetry. Yeah, she's a storyteller. Gorgeous poetry,

1417
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 1: I mean, and the Prince Gossip alone, It's like that's

1418
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 1: the kind of stuff you really need into every memoir,

1419
01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 1: and she does give it to you. And this is

1420
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna say about the end of the book.

1421
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 1: She'll just drop super quick gossip, she says. Anthony Ketas

1422
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 1: and his memoir scortes show he says we kissed we

1423
01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 1: never did, yeah, and you're like okay and moving on. Yeah,

1424
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:32,719
Speaker 1: and she's not even like being like I'm so angry

1425
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:35,760
Speaker 1: at him, like for saying that random mental, random, like

1426
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 1: obsessed and like he was obsessed with me and I

1427
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:42,719
Speaker 1: didn't sleep with them, and moving on. Hey, Lily, what's

1428
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 1: next week's book. There's no book, because it's about mother

1429
01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:51,960
Speaker 1: chumping summer. The book is us, Stephen. Oh shit, we're

1430
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:55,280
Speaker 1: about to turn the page on our own goddamn story

1431
01:14:57,040 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 1: exactly next week. You're going to get the down in

1432
01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 1: dirty details of what happened in Lily and Stephen's summer,

1433
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:09,800
Speaker 1: and we mean dirty, from rocky beaches to gross motels.

1434
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 1: Tune in. Oh yes, restaurant stuff, Airbnb stuff, sitting in

1435
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:20,479
Speaker 1: a car, stuff, talking on the phone, stuff, what's app stuff,

1436
01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:24,519
Speaker 1: turning the page on a magazine covered in sand. Oh yes,

1437
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:27,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna hear about all the magazines we read this summer.

1438
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:31,479
Speaker 1: So get the fuck ready to be jealous. JK, it's

1439
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 1: gonna be super relatable. Pour your last glass of Tito's

1440
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:43,600
Speaker 1: Lime and Sparkling Spindrift Lemonade, Limeade, raz crown. Put that

1441
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 1: last line of zinc on the old Schnas because summer

1442
01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:49,800
Speaker 1: is about to go the way of the Dodo Sweetheart.

1443
01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:55,600
Speaker 1: Bus Us Celebrity Book Club is presented by the Bustards,

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01:15:55,840 --> 01:16:00,760
Speaker 1: Prolog Projects and the Total Ship Kickers Over Ahead. The

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01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 1: show is produced by Meg Burney who Betrayed Me when

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01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:07,240
Speaker 1: I was a child, with editorial support from pastor lean

1447
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 1: E Fok, Priest Andrew Parsons and Cellibate Nun Madeline Kaplan

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01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:15,920
Speaker 1: a production manager. He is actually in hospice. Her name's

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01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:18,640
Speaker 1: Percy Everrlin. I hope she passes us soon. She's been

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01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 1: in a lot of pain. Engineering by Faris Munshi. He's

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01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:24,679
Speaker 1: a nice guy, but I wouldn't leave my daughter alone

1452
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:28,320
Speaker 1: with him. Original theme song by Stephen Philip's Horst. Oh

1453
01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:31,800
Speaker 1: what a beautiful man. I got hidles down my bone

1454
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:34,799
Speaker 1: spine when I think about him. Artwork by Teddy Blanks

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