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Speaker 2: So the fifteen to the ten, He's gonna score touchdown?

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Speaker 2: Slam to the ground by Puda Baker Like a torpedo.

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Speaker 2: He came flying into the backfield Connor to the ten,

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Speaker 1: Here's Craig Griolhu, Danny Sirek and nine year NFL veteran

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Speaker 1: Rob Frederickson.

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Speaker 4: So are we ready? Training camp? One week from today

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Speaker 4: is when players report the first practice a week from Wednesday.

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Speaker 4: First open in practice at State Farm Stadium Thursday, July

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Speaker 4: maybe you get to meet Rob Frederickson one day out

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Speaker 4: at State Farm Stadium.

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Speaker 6: When's the first padded practice. Okay, that's what we need

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Speaker 6: to know.

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Speaker 4: Why is it always guys back in my day that

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Speaker 4: always want to know when the first padded practice is because.

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Speaker 6: Because it's football and football is still a contact sport. Yes, okay,

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Speaker 6: and so you know that's for me for a linebacker,

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Speaker 6: for a guy that loves the contact, that loves that energy,

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Speaker 6: that's when it really starts the first padded practice.

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Speaker 5: I get it.

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Speaker 6: You know, the CBA, you got to do all the

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Speaker 6: things according to the rules, but where are the pads?

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Speaker 6: Bring on the pads, right, Dan, You're gonna.

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Speaker 7: Have to wait a few practices to see your first

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Speaker 7: padded practice for the CBA rules. But fans can still

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Speaker 7: go out there and it'll be interesting because every year

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Speaker 7: it's you know, there's going to be competition in different

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Speaker 7: position rooms and you're having to try to learn something

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Speaker 7: of what can you learn when you're not seeing contact,

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Speaker 7: when players aren't in pads, and you can still learn

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Speaker 7: and gather some ideas of what the coaching staff may

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Speaker 7: or and may not be seeing. Yeah, when the pads

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Speaker 7: come out, I mean there's there's something different in the

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Speaker 7: air even when the players run out onto the field.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's hard to evaluate the guys. I think that's

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Speaker 6: the biggest thing is it's hard for these coaches and

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Speaker 6: scouts and general managers. It's hard for them to evaluate

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Speaker 6: the players. If you don't have contact. You can evaluate

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Speaker 6: some positions, obviously kickers and wide receivers and cornerbacks. I

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Speaker 6: think you can you can do some evaluation there. But

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Speaker 6: the guys in the trenches, man, that's that's what they need.

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Speaker 6: That's what they need, that contact to really showcase what

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Speaker 6: they what they can do.

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Speaker 4: And that's why how many times Danny did we hear

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Speaker 4: Jonathan Gannon towards the end of the offseason program mentioned Yeah,

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Speaker 4: when the pads come on, that's when the true evaluation

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Speaker 4: of a player, a position group, that's when we'll really

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Speaker 4: get to kind of separate. We have an idea of

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Speaker 4: who we think might be good, especially those young players.

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Speaker 4: But when you get that physicality and the pads are on,

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Speaker 4: how do you remove someone from their block? How do

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Speaker 4: you disengage from block? All of that. You can't do

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Speaker 4: that when you're just in t shirts and shorts.

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Speaker 7: You can only do so much when you're just wearing

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Speaker 7: your shirt and shorts and you're doing routes on air

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Speaker 7: and not having any sort of contact or true pressure,

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Speaker 7: especially on the offense. That's why we've heard from Gannon

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Speaker 7: and other coaches leading up to this point saying some

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Speaker 7: players they shine when they put the pads on, and

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Speaker 7: others get lost. And that's the importance of those padded

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Speaker 7: practices is it's one thing if you mentally know where

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Speaker 7: you're supposed to be, what your role is, your check down, right,

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Speaker 7: the timing, whatever your position is, and it's a different

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Speaker 7: not only getting from A to B and the fastest

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's the biggest difference, right, is when there's no pads,

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Speaker 6: and defensively you're in the right position. But when you

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Speaker 6: don't just have to focus on the mental side. You

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Speaker 6: It changes the dynamic and you're right. Some guys rise

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Speaker 7: That first padded practice, I am camping out. I'm going

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Speaker 7: to have a launcher. I'm going to post up at

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Speaker 7: the line of scrimmage. Offensive lineman, defensive lineman, one on

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Speaker 7: one drills. I want to see how Isaiah Adams looks

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Speaker 4: First padd That's always where you kind of if you're

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Speaker 4: you do the position drills, and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 4: once that first padded practice where it's offense versus defense,

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Speaker 4: pay attention to where the couches and the scouts and

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Speaker 4: front office personnel will move to one side of the

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Speaker 4: field because that's where it's the heavyweights. Rob It's where

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Speaker 4: whether it's one on one or blitz pick up with

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Speaker 4: a running back and a linebacker. Okay, now, all of

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Speaker 4: a sudden, not only is it a little bit more intense,

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Speaker 6: I want to see this treasure trove of defensive line

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Speaker 6: talent that the Cardinals brought in this offseason. I can't

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Speaker 6: wait to see them in action and see what this

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Speaker 6: revamped defense looks like. You know, from from front end

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Speaker 6: and I'm excited to see what that looks like. You

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Speaker 6: of does he take that sophomore season jump that we

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Speaker 6: all talk about that we see in players. Does a

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Speaker 4: There are twelve defensive lineman currently on the roster. A

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Speaker 4: year ago, they went into Week one with six defensive

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Speaker 4: of the questions that we'll all want to know. How

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Speaker 4: think you'll be allowed to keep considering the talent in

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Speaker 4: that room. And another question that I have, Danny, is

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Speaker 4: who is running the defense? Who's calling the defense on

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Speaker 4: the field? Talking about who's got that communication, the in

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Speaker 4: helmet communication, the green dot on the field, Because for

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Speaker 4: the past two years that's been Kayzier White. He's not

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Speaker 7: The first thought is Cody Simon as a rookie. Last

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Speaker 7: year was the first year in college football that they

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Speaker 7: for Ohio State. It's different in the pros, but you'd

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Speaker 7: have to imagine that gives him at least somewhat of

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Speaker 7: his teammates. The other player that I think would be

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Speaker 7: the competition there would be a Keen Davis Gather, who

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Speaker 7: the Cardinals brought in this offseason. I don't see mac

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Speaker 7: I think that this defense uses him so well, and

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Speaker 7: and you want someone who's wearing that green dot trying

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Speaker 7: crazy as it might seem as a rookie and he

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Speaker 7: hasn't put pads on Rob, it seems like Simon would

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's you know, it's a good point. He has

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Speaker 6: a history of doing it with Ohio State, and so

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Speaker 6: used to that pressure, he's used to the crowd noise,

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Speaker 6: So yeah, I could see Cody Simon at least doing

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Speaker 6: And I can't even say.

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Speaker 4: So, no, not Rob Fredericson, is what you're trying to say. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: Exactly, but you got you gotta look, you gotta get

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Speaker 6: get it out, you gotta inflection, you gotta be confident

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Speaker 6: stand behind that. And so there's a lot of elements

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Speaker 4: On that topic. JG on that middle linebacker position player

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Speaker 4: like a Cody Simon brand new the league adjusting to

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Speaker 8: The adjustment period. If you've never done that is real.

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Speaker 8: I've never really been around a guy that couldn't really

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Speaker 8: but it is real. You got to hear it and

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Speaker 8: never done it cause you're white, never did it, you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no question Kaizier White was fine with that.

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Speaker 4: In helmet communication, and you want someone who's going to

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Speaker 4: and yes, you've got Buddha Baker and Jalen Thompson, but

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Speaker 4: you want kind of someone in the middle of the defense,

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Speaker 4: correct Rob because it's easier to communicate to the guys

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Speaker 6: Well, you can have a safety, you can have a

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Speaker 6: Buddha Baker making coverage checks, making coverage changes on the

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Speaker 6: a lot of times things can you guys if they

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Speaker 6: and the shifts and the changes in alignment, they can

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Speaker 6: They know what to do given this formation, but it's

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Speaker 6: always good you have to have somebody to confirm it

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Speaker 7: All the line. All the linebackers practice with that in

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Speaker 7: so you know, if you have to make a change

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Speaker 7: I can't focus. I've never practiced having someone relay placed

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Speaker 7: You saw good things from Adams as a rookie, to

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Speaker 7: They have brought in veterans, and we've seen in the

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Speaker 4: Speaking of Kyler Murray, when we come back Kyler and

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Speaker 2: He stands in the pocket, puff Bake steps up, throws

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Speaker 2: Lobby back of the end zone, and it's caught for

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Speaker 2: What a catch, Marvin Harrison Junior, big time.

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Speaker 3: There it is.

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Speaker 4: So we just got done discussing how we're we're all

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Speaker 7: Well, they've been doing that on their own in Phoenix

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Speaker 7: And that's what trips like this are about is building

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Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a look a fifty three man roster. You

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Speaker 4: And that's the trick here, Rob is capable of doing.

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Speaker 6: were running it back. We have the assets that we need,

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Speaker 6: it's up to you to actually put it all together.

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Speaker 6: That's a big statement, that's that's a big message that

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Speaker 6: you know, it's it's time. All right. We've addressed the defense.

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Speaker 6: They already outperformed last year with a lot oftentimes third

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Speaker 6: and fourth string guys, and we're going to give them

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Speaker 6: some assets. We're going to give them the ammunition that

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Speaker 6: they need defensively to really make this a potential top

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Speaker 6: ten defense. Offense, you have the talent top ten offense,

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Speaker 6: you got to go out and play. You got to

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Speaker 6: go out and perform.

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Speaker 7: Now's the time. You're going to have the consistency you

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Speaker 7: have not only with the players on the offensive side

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Speaker 7: of the ball, but with the play caller and offensive

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Speaker 7: coordin Drew Petsing, which I think is an important piece

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Speaker 7: that gets left out a lot of having consistency there

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Speaker 7: and hearing about the quote unquote juice that's being added

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Speaker 7: now that it's going into year three with the scheme

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Speaker 7: of having more pre stat motions and shifts and things

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Speaker 7: of that nature. Now is the time for this team.

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Speaker 7: You have addressed the holes that were there early on

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Speaker 7: in the offseason on the defense side of the ball.

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Speaker 7: You feel confident enough in the offense where you didn't

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Speaker 7: feel like you need to bring in pieces. You've got

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Speaker 7: a quarterback going into your seven, you've got a star,

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Speaker 7: a budding wide receiver going into year two, and Marvin

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Speaker 7: Harrison Junior consistency on the offensive line. He rushed for

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Speaker 7: a thousand yard rusher in James Connor last year. And

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Speaker 7: this is a team that doubled its win total, went

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Speaker 7: from four to eight last year and was competitive and

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Speaker 7: doing so. Now is the time, and that all starts

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Speaker 7: with Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 4: And we always talk about the chemistry of the connection

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Speaker 4: with Marvin Harrison Junior, but let's not forget, Okay, who's

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Speaker 4: the other guy who's opposite MHJ And Michael Wilson has

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Speaker 4: talked about earlier this offseason. Yeah, he's had a pretty

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Speaker 4: good first two years, but in year three he believes

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Speaker 4: he can be much better.

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Speaker 11: I just want to produce more, and producing more for

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Speaker 11: receiver obviously looks like catches and touchdowns and yards. Honestly,

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Speaker 11: I really think that's a big goal for me. Is

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Speaker 11: I want to show up more on the stat sheet

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Speaker 11: and produce more from a numbers standpoint, because I know

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Speaker 11: the talents there. It's just about putting everything together and

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Speaker 11: showing up on Here.

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Speaker 4: Are markls numbers from a year ago. Forty seven catches,

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Speaker 4: five hundred and forty eight yards, four touchdowns. He was

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Speaker 4: targeted seventy one times sixteen games. He missed the one

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Speaker 4: game Week eighteen with a hamstring injury. But you look

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Speaker 4: at those numbers. Okay, maybe there's same number roughly the

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Speaker 4: same number targets, but can you have that connection and

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Speaker 4: can those catches be four instead of the five six

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Speaker 4: seven yards be for ten eleven, twelve yards downfield?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I think Trey McBride's looking at the number of times

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Speaker 6: he was targeted versus receptions. I think it was like

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Speaker 6: seventy five percent maybe higher. And then the wide receivers

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Speaker 6: just dropped down precipitously, so that something's going on there

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Speaker 6: with the wide receiver room. It's not just Michael Wilson.

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Speaker 6: It's just there has to be that connection in terms

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Speaker 6: of productivity, and you know that hopefully they address that

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Speaker 6: in training camp.

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Speaker 7: Wilson gets a lot of praise for the type of

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Speaker 7: blocking receiver he has that is crucial for this offense

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Speaker 7: to what this coaching staff in front office looks for

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Speaker 7: in a receiver. They don't want someone who just has speed.

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Speaker 7: You have to be well rounded. So the fact that

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Speaker 7: we've seen that and Wilson feels like he's ready to

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Speaker 7: step up, that's what you need. You need a true

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Speaker 7: number two, and Wilson has the potential to be that player.

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Speaker 2: Shotgun snap back to throw. Smith steps up, moves to

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Speaker 2: his right, being chased far aside. Now throws Oh a

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Speaker 2: bit of plicked off in the end zone. Oh what

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Speaker 2: a cordgeous play by Garrett Williams. Step kick off Gino

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Speaker 2: Smith in the end zone.

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Speaker 5: Oh what a great way to start the fourth corner

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Speaker 5: right here, turning over Gino Smith in the red zone,

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Speaker 5: you rush five and Garrett Williams makes a play.

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Speaker 4: So if we're gonna talk Garrett Williams and welcome back,

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Speaker 4: it is the Cardinals Red Sea Report, Craig Reilud, Danny

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Speaker 4: Sirek and Rob Frederickson.

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Speaker 5: Here.

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Speaker 4: We do it each and every Tuesday, eleven am, year round.

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Speaker 4: But you know my thing, Danny, if we're gonna talk

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Speaker 4: about Garrett Williams, it has to be mentioned where he

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Speaker 4: went to school. We heard the voice of the Arizona Cardinals,

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Speaker 4: Dave Pash calling some of those highlights, Dave Patch Garrett Williams.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, also myself all from Syracuse.

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Speaker 7: I thought you were gonna mention how I was the

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Speaker 7: only person in our Cardinals broadcast personality group when we

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Speaker 7: did our year end award to chose Garrett Williams as

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Speaker 7: defensive MVP. We're not going to talk about that.

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Speaker 4: We can because if I remember correctly, and I think

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Speaker 4: Rob was in this saying boat, we both selected Buddha Baker.

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Speaker 4: But I have looking at what Garrett did and how

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Speaker 4: valuable this coaching staff feels about Garrett Williams as a

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Speaker 4: slot corner and just looking at some of the metrics

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Speaker 4: out there, whether it's Pro football focused or next gen stats.

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Speaker 4: Garrett Williams might not be a household name outside of

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Speaker 4: the state of Arizona, but he is an ascending player

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Speaker 4: and I do believe right now is your best cornerback

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Speaker 4: on the roster.

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Speaker 7: Everyone hop on the Garrett Williams train. I am the conductor,

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Speaker 7: I'm leading charge. I mean, he had a great year.

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Speaker 7: He played clean discipline football. He was top five in

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Speaker 7: team tackles, only one penalty, committed, two interceptions, nine passes defense.

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Speaker 7: He was tough to go against and rob he faced

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Speaker 7: some high level receivers last year. And even though Williams

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Speaker 7: has the versatility to also play outside, this coaching staff

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Speaker 7: clearly values so strongly inside that we've hardly even seen

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Speaker 7: him as an outside corner in the two seasons one

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Speaker 7: and a half seasons he's played here.

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Speaker 6: Why would you mess with what works? I mean, he's

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Speaker 6: so successful in that slot position, and you may be

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Speaker 6: ahead of the curve, Danny, in terms of just identifying

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Speaker 6: him as your MVP, because you know, typically in this league,

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Speaker 6: players when they really show out when they really have

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Speaker 6: an outstanding season, it's a year or two later before

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Speaker 6: they actually receive the accolades, they actually receive a Pro

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Speaker 6: Bowl mentions and things like that. But I think it's

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Speaker 6: in Garrett Williams's future. He's that good and you know,

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Speaker 6: he just does everything right. And when you're in that

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Speaker 6: slot position, you're closer to the action, you're going to

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Speaker 6: make more tackles top five and tackles. That to me,

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Speaker 6: that's a statistic that kind of jumps out at me

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Speaker 6: because you're a little closer to the action. But he's

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Speaker 6: a player that this team certainly is going to build around, and.

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Speaker 4: I do believe there are people out there. In fact,

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Speaker 4: if you look at all pro voting, Garrett finished fifth

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Speaker 4: amongst locked cornerbacks. So two seasons in and really Danny,

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Speaker 4: as you mentioned, a season and a half because he

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Speaker 4: missed the first half for a bulk or third of

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Speaker 4: that first year because he still quite wasn't healthy from

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Speaker 4: the ACL injury that he suffered in college. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: year three, but I think now he with Sean Murphrey

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Speaker 4: Bunting being on the sideline, you look at the other

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Speaker 4: eleven corners in the room, and right now Garrett Williams

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Speaker 4: going into year three is kind of the elder statesman

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Speaker 4: in that room, at least in terms of snaps and

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Speaker 4: starts wearing a Cardinals uniform.

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Speaker 7: And yet Williams will likely still not play outside corner.

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Speaker 7: It is a very young room. However, they are players

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Speaker 7: who have proven themselves and really started to shine a

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Speaker 7: Max Melton, a Starling Thomas, and there's a question mark,

588
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Speaker 7: but a whole lot of exclamation marks about will Johnson

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Speaker 7: the rookie and what he can provide. So it's a

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Speaker 7: true testament to the draft pross a free agents that

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Speaker 7: have been brought in by this coaching staff how or

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Speaker 7: by the front office, rather how this coaching staff has

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Speaker 7: gotten the most out of their young cornerbacks to where

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Speaker 7: you have your most veteran player in that room and

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Speaker 7: Sean Murphy bunting out for the season and you're not

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Speaker 7: really shaking in your boots. And that's not a knock

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Speaker 7: on SMB. It's more of praise for the work that

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Speaker 7: has been done from the top down in that room.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you drafted three cornerbacks last year's in last year's draft,

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Speaker 6: so you really have increased the inventory and increase the

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Speaker 6: depth at that position, and so it kind of leaves

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Speaker 6: you with will Johnson doesn't have. He didn't have the expectations.

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Speaker 6: You didn't have to come out and shine, You didn't

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Speaker 6: have to come out and start even because we do

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Speaker 6: have enough players that can fulfill those positions and give

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Speaker 6: him some time to learn and grow.

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Speaker 4: We heard from Garrett last week again, it's hard to

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Speaker 4: keep Garrett Williams out of the facility. He's here darn

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Speaker 4: near every single day, always looking at his playbook, always

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Speaker 4: looking at video. But something that he brought up, something

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Speaker 4: we've heard from a couple of different players defensively, is

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Speaker 4: can this defense and specifically the secondary, can they get

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Speaker 4: their hands on more footballs? Just seventeen takeaways last season,

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Speaker 4: that includes three in Week eighteen against the forty nine ers,

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Speaker 4: nine interceptions, that number needs to go up. Garrett Williams

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Speaker 4: on if he believes more quarnerbacks will get their hands

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Speaker 4: on the football here in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 12: One hundred percent.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: I mean we have more than enough guys to do it,

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Speaker 12: and I think all of us are really capable. So

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Speaker 12: I'm look really excited, really looking forward to and I

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Speaker 12: feel like we're all kind of on the same page

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Speaker 12: as this. You know, we did good last year. We

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Speaker 12: got to get the ball, you know, So that's one

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Speaker 12: of our emphasis is to get the ball. So I

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Speaker 12: think we're gonna do that.

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Speaker 4: And I think it helps rob when you see what

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Speaker 4: this team did those two levels ahead of the secondary,

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Speaker 4: as far as the defensive line and improvements, adding Josh

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Speaker 4: Weed as an outside linebacker, putting more pressure on the

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Speaker 4: opposing quarterback, and all of a sudden than not standing

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Speaker 4: and secting you defensively, they can sit there and feel

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Speaker 4: a little pressure, maybe get the ball out sooner quicker

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Speaker 4: than they want to.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's pretty hard for I don't care who the

637
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Speaker 6: cornerback is in this league to cover a wide receiver

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Speaker 6: for three, four, five seconds or more. And if you

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Speaker 6: don't get pressure on the quarterback, you're gonna that's gonna

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Speaker 6: be the expectation for the cornerbacks. And so that's that's

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Speaker 6: a tough job to have. And with the additions that

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Speaker 6: the Cardinals made to the defensive line at both the

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Speaker 6: interior and on the outside on the edge, I think

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Speaker 6: they're gonna create a lot more pressure. Klays Campbell's six

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Speaker 6: foot what ten six ninees it seems like anyway, this

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Speaker 6: guy's got to get some bad at balls, and that's

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Speaker 6: when turnovers happened.

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Speaker 4: Danny mentioned Will Johnson and this is someone I think

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Speaker 4: we're all excited to see. But Garrett Williams asked about

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Speaker 4: the Cardinals' second round pick wearing number zero in that

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Speaker 4: cornerback room.

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Speaker 12: The first thing that stands out was obviously just the

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Speaker 12: football IQ part, And I feel like that was the

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Speaker 12: thing you saw even to him in Michigan, was just

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Speaker 12: being able to be really instinctive and make plays on

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Speaker 12: the ball. And see you take that and you add

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Speaker 12: his size and all those things and just a guy

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Speaker 12: who's willing to learn. I think that's a really good,

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Speaker 12: a really good mix to have to add to the

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Speaker 12: room where we already have a lot of guys as well.

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Speaker 12: So I feel good about him and everybody else in

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Speaker 12: the room.

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Speaker 4: And we talked about waiting to see that first offensive

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Speaker 4: line versus defensive line drill and whether it's in pads

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Speaker 4: or not, but seeing Will Johnson line up across from

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Speaker 4: Marvin or Michael or whomever it is, how does Will

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Speaker 4: handle that to where all of a sudden, Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 4: we can picture him as a starting outside corner in

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Speaker 4: New Orleans.

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Speaker 7: Another exciting camp battle to keep your eye on. At

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Speaker 7: six one one ninety four, Johnson was a three year starter.

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Speaker 7: He played a lot of zone at Michigan, which is

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Speaker 7: what this Cardinals defense likes to play a lot of.

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Speaker 7: Twenty twenty three was the National Championship defensive MVP. This

675
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 7: is someone who is very skilled. A lot of people

676
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Speaker 7: were surprised he dropped out of the first round in

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Speaker 7: the draft. To begin with, the question is going to

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Speaker 7: be is he healthy enough? It doesn't stem from the

679
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Speaker 7: knee or the hamstring that Johnson was dealing with throughout

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Speaker 7: college or the draft process, but it was a bit

681
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Speaker 7: of a tweaked hamstring, is what Jonathan gannon call did

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Speaker 7: that kept Johnson somewhat limited throughout OTA's In mini camp,

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Speaker 7: he was on the field, he was participating in some

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Speaker 7: of the drills, but not all of them. So having

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Speaker 7: these last six or so weeks of not rest because

686
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Speaker 7: the players are still working out, they're still training getting

687
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Speaker 7: ready for training camp. But how has that allowed him

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Speaker 7: to get healthy enough to the point where he can

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Speaker 7: have a full training camp.

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Speaker 4: That's the goal.

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Speaker 7: Rob's point earlier is exactly right. Johnson doesn't have the

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Speaker 7: pressure where he has to come in and be a

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Speaker 7: starter week one. Is he capable of doing that and

694
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Speaker 7: fighting for a spot opposite of Thomas or Melton. Yes,

695
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Speaker 7: you're not relying on it. You don't have those hefty

696
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Speaker 7: expectations on his shoulders of I have to come out

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Speaker 7: and be a starting cornerback. No, go out and perform well,

698
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Speaker 7: and when you do that time and time again, you

699
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Speaker 7: will earn your spot onto the field.

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Speaker 4: A year ago, Max Melton, the second round pick, didn't

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Speaker 4: start until late in the season. I'd be surprised if

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Speaker 4: we didn't see Will Johnson early in the season with

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Speaker 4: a handfull of stars. But as the saying goes, you

704
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Speaker 4: can never have enough cornerbacks good cornerbacks, and the Cardinals

705
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Speaker 4: believe they have good cornerbacks on the roster.

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Speaker 6: You're gonna see Will Johnson early and often. I believe me.

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Speaker 6: I think he'll be healthy and ready to go, and

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Speaker 6: I'm excited to see him play.

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Speaker 4: The question is who will he line up against. NFC West.

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Speaker 4: We are a week away from the start of training camp.

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Speaker 4: The San Diego excuse me, the Los Angeles Chargers already

712
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 4: reported for training camp at least the rookies have and

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Speaker 4: the rookies for the Seattle Seahawks and San Francisco forty

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Speaker 4: nine ers reporting today a look around the division as

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Speaker 4: we continue, It's the Cardinals Red Sea Report on the

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Speaker 4: Arizona Cardinals Radio network.

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Speaker 13: The ball is spotted just shy at the four, shocked

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Speaker 13: up for Stafford motion manage hit beat to the near

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Speaker 13: side Stafford, Stafford deep in the pocket looking at throws

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Speaker 13: up staff Higby with two Eagles surrounding of the secures

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Speaker 13: in at the Rams are an extra fourn away.

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Speaker 4: From taking the league.

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Speaker 13: Jack Vaughn to C. J. Gardner, Jompson, he had the coverage.

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Speaker 10: And he splits it.

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Speaker 4: Rams on the road in Philadelphia gave the Eagles all

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Speaker 4: they could handle and then some, but lost in the

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Speaker 4: NFC Championship. Gamers could say lost in that divisional round

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Speaker 4: game as far as the Rams and Eagles are concerned.

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Speaker 4: Iron Eagle on Westwood one, and that leads us to

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Speaker 4: this conversation here on the Cardinals Red Sea Report the

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Speaker 4: NFC West Yes, the Rams won the division with a

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Speaker 4: ten and seven record, really not much changed, just one

733
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Speaker 4: big addition while on subtraction in Cooper Cup. But in

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Speaker 4: addition in DeVante Adams and how the question that people

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Speaker 4: have rob is, Okay, Matthew Stafford is back veteran quarterback

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Speaker 4: now is a veteran wide receiver. What does that move

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Speaker 4: mean for the rest of those guys of pukingnakua? How

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Speaker 4: does it trickle down when you have maybe a future

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Speaker 4: Hall of Fame wide receiver now on your roster.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that was really the big change, right, losing Cooper

741
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Speaker 6: Cup and gaining Davante Adams. Other than that, you know,

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Speaker 6: it looks like the Rams defensively are set. They've had

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Speaker 6: a couple of really good drafts recently and they've really

744
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Speaker 6: done a good job of revamping that defense. And you know,

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Speaker 6: Matthew Stafford he still can sling it. At his age,

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Speaker 6: He's he's still a quarterback that can make every throw,

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Speaker 6: any throw that needs to be made. So there's a

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Speaker 6: lot of positives I think surrounding the Rams going into

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Speaker 6: this season. It's just a matter of if they can

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Speaker 6: all stay healthy and what's going to be you know,

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Speaker 6: Davante Adams, is he is he gonna fit in? Is

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Speaker 6: he going to become a part of that culture there?

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Speaker 7: That's what I was thinking as well, Rob, and now

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Speaker 7: I'm looking at the numbers online and the combined season

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Speaker 7: of last year of sometime with Vegas, sometime with New

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Speaker 7: York seven, the last eight years, Adams has had one

757
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Speaker 7: thousand receiving yards. So you think of oh, last year, right,

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Speaker 7: he didn't look like the true DeVante Adams we've seen

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Speaker 7: for so long, and then you look at the numbers

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Speaker 7: and he's still performing. Now that there could be changes, right,

761
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Speaker 7: you're going to la or in a new scheme, new quarterback,

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Speaker 7: a lot of new players you're playing with. So what

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Speaker 7: kind of DeVante Adams are we going to see? It's

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Speaker 7: hard to envision anything other than a threat, though, Craig to.

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Speaker 4: Me, they're talking about the Rams. They are still the

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Speaker 4: team to beat until they are beaten. And that's the

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Speaker 4: respect you give a raigning division winner. Now I mentioned

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Speaker 4: Cooper cup Well, he's still within the division. He's just

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Speaker 4: wearing a Seattle Seahawks.

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Speaker 7: It's seen the pictures of him online from media day.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's going to take some getting used to though.

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Speaker 4: There is not only a new wide receiver, but there's

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Speaker 4: also now a new quarterback in that room, Sam Darnold

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Speaker 4: signing a three year contract, after Gino Smith was traded

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Speaker 4: to the Raiders. So you've got a lot of newness

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Speaker 4: in Seattle as far as a new quarterback, new wide receiver,

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Speaker 4: a new OC coming in after one year of Ryan Grubbs.

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Speaker 4: So the Seahawks after a ten wins season, did not

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Speaker 4: qualify for the playoffs. But what do they look like

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Speaker 4: on offense going into this season.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, the Seahawks were a team that had the Cardinals number.

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Speaker 7: Last year they swept Arizona and it was not very

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Speaker 7: good performances by the Cardinals all things considered. And there

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Speaker 7: have been changes, right, and you were mentioning some of them.

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Speaker 7: Even if LA is the team to beat, Seattle is

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Speaker 7: still a hard team to get through, not even just

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Speaker 7: on the road, also at home for this Cardinals team.

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Speaker 7: So it's a tough division. And when you're looking at

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Speaker 7: some of the changers, I mean on defense they bring

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Speaker 7: in to Marcus Lawrence from Dallas. So Seattle is at

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Speaker 7: a point where they're still having to work through some

792
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Speaker 7: changes and in their own sort of transition phase, they're

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Speaker 7: still early on that. I'm not sure that Sam Darnold

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Speaker 7: is the long term answer for Seattle, but this is

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Speaker 7: going to be a year of having to prove themselves,

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Speaker 7: and I think right now where the Cardinals stand, Yeah,

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Speaker 7: they've They've got a pretty significant leg up all things

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Speaker 7: considered on Seattle.

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Speaker 6: You know, it's interesting and Seattle released Tyler Lockett and

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Speaker 6: they traded Dk Metcalf. They're two most productive wide receivers

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Speaker 6: in what the last seems like decade, but it hasn't

802
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Speaker 6: been that long. But these guys are really productive for Seattle,

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Speaker 6: and to trade and release those two, you know, they

804
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Speaker 6: might they must have something that they really feel good about.

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Speaker 6: I know, obviously you're getting Cooper Cup, but can he

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Speaker 6: overcome that production that they're not going to have anymore.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of change, I don't think there was a team

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Speaker 4: that under would more of a change offense and defense

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Speaker 4: within the division than San Francisco forty nine ers. Believe

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Speaker 4: the stat that I read in this offseason was going

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Speaker 4: back to the Super Bowl in twenty twenty four, eleven

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Speaker 4: of twenty two starters are gone and that's just in

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Speaker 4: two years time. It's almost a brand new defense. You

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Speaker 4: have another defensive coordinator once again, although it's Robert Sala

815
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Speaker 4: who's familiar in that building. But they like the Cardinals

816
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 4: revamped their defensive line, and no longer do you have

817
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Speaker 4: to worry about Javon Hargrave, Leonard Floyd, Ray Green Lootch,

818
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Speaker 4: a various war Tallnoah Hufanga all signed or released, and

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Speaker 4: you're looking at this defense. Yeah, Nick Bosa is still around. Offense,

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Speaker 4: you still got George Kittley, got Christian McCaffery. But it's

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Speaker 4: the pieces and the names that aren't well known surrounding

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Speaker 4: the bigger names and trying to figure out is this

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Speaker 4: forty nine Ers team can they go from six wins

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Speaker 4: to double digits or is it more of a rebuilding process.

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Speaker 7: It's still Kyle Shanahan, Chris that is. I can't sit

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Speaker 7: confidently and say, oh, they lost all these players. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: San Francisco is bottom of the barrel in the division.

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Speaker 7: That's tough to say when year after year the forty

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Speaker 7: nine Ers seem to somehow claw their way into contention

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Speaker 7: at least at the end of the season. Like that,

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Speaker 7: they always seem to find a way to figure things

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Speaker 7: out and no matter what kind of injuries or adversity

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Speaker 7: they're facing, they are a tough team to play.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And it always seems like at running back in particular,

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Speaker 6: they can have a thousand yard rusher, guy gets hurt,

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Speaker 6: and then they just have somebody else that just runs

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Speaker 6: it downhill and goes for a thousand and then goes

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Speaker 6: to another team. But the forty nine ers are They're

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Speaker 6: just like a system, is really how I could describe them.

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Speaker 6: They are a system, and they insert players, remove players,

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00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 6: but they just the system keeps going and it will

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00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 6: continue to keep going. So the forty nine ers are

843
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Speaker 6: always going to be formidable.

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Speaker 4: Well that system. If you believe the narrative out there

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Speaker 4: that some people have got Rock Party paid mister irrelevant

846
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 4: now very relevant as far as the dollars that he signed.

847
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Speaker 4: But again, whether you're a system quarterback or not, can

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Speaker 4: you be successful. And when you think Brock Party, he's

849
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Speaker 4: winning games. He's leading that offense. So whatever offense you're running,

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Speaker 4: you found someone. The forty nine ers did. Maybe they

851
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 4: lucked out into it, but they found someone that meshes

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Speaker 4: with what Shanahan wants to do. And you don't penalize

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Speaker 4: or knock an organization or a player because of that. No,

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Speaker 4: you want someone that fits with what you do, and

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Speaker 4: that's Brock Party.

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Speaker 6: You know. Baltimore comes to mind too as well, as

857
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 6: an offensive system that just works and they continue to

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Speaker 6: be successful. They continue to be effective. Forty nine Ers

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Speaker 6: just they have that. They have that offensively, and you're right,

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Speaker 6: Brock Purty is a big part of that. But you know,

861
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Speaker 6: not having Deebo Samuel, I think is really going to

862
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 6: hurt them because he did so much for them, not

863
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Speaker 6: just in passing, pass receiving, but also in running the football,

864
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Speaker 6: rushing the football in fact. So that to me is

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Speaker 6: going to be a big loss for forty nine ers.

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Speaker 4: Brandon, are you coming off that ACL injury? And then

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Speaker 4: word reports earlier this week that Juwan Jennings wants a

868
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Speaker 4: new contract or wants out does he report to training camp?

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Speaker 4: So look, every team has questions, every team has issues.

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Speaker 4: I'm just impressed because you look nationally, it's hard to

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Speaker 4: kind of get a gauge on what people believe is

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Speaker 4: the top team within the NFC West. Yeah, the Rams

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Speaker 4: are the rainy chance, but you can make an argument

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Speaker 4: for all four teams.

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Speaker 7: When you're looking at a consistency, the pieces brought in

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Speaker 7: the ascension of this Cardinals team. I feel very strongly

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Speaker 7: that it is Arizona's division to lose. That they have

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Speaker 7: a strong chance to win the NFC West.

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Speaker 4: Let's hope that is exactly what happens in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 7: If I'm right, I'm calling it right now.

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Speaker 6: She was right about Garrett Williams.

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Speaker 5: That's true.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Rob, speak it into existence. Danny Training Campberg

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Speaker 4: Gang one week away. First open practice Thursday, July twenty fourth.

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Speaker 2: It is caught by McBride. Hey, it's a touchdown boot

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Speaker 2: a Baker with the sacked strip the ball where he's.

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Speaker 5: Gonna score touchdown.

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