1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Ron and Anian. Do you trust the sign from the 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: mechanic that says, hey, I'll work cheaper than anybody just 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: to Luia in the door because I know you're stupid 4 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 1: and I can up sell you and sell you all 5 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: the stuff you don't really need to make up for 6 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: the walls on the oil changes the Car Doctor, the 7 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: tire pressure indicator lights is lit. It stays lit, and 8 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: we check the air pressure in the tire zip fine, 9 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: as long as you're setting tire pressure to a thin 10 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: fifteen percent of placard that lights you go out. Welcome 11 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: to the radio home of Ron and Anian, the Car Doctor, 12 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 1: since this is where car owners the world overturn to 13 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 1: for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics 14 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: giving you a busy signal, pick up the phone and 15 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: call in. The garage doors are open, but I am 16 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: here to take your calls at eight five five six 17 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: and now he running. Hey, it's really busy and crazy today, 18 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: so let's kick the garage doors. Open it off the 19 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: bat and go to Marianne and Virginia Beach and living 20 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: Ford Fusion. Marianne, Welcome to the Car Doctor. How can 21 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: I help? Well, I have for infusion, and it has 22 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: been rattling for about three months, and every time I 23 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: wounded up the car, it would stop, but then it 24 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: was as it was going along it would come back again. 25 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: So when I took it three times to their dealership, 26 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: they couldn't find anything wrong with it. And then the 27 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: fourth time he said, well, it sounds like the mode 28 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: amounts And I said, well, how would you know that 29 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: if you didn't put it up on the lift. He said, well, 30 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: we'd have to put it up on the lift and 31 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: take it roll apart and core animal quester a thousand dollars. 32 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: And I said, well, let me think about this, and 33 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: he said, well, you know, if it rattles really bed 34 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 1: and it starts shaking, then bring it back and we'll 35 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: replace it. And he said, now that their rubber, um, 36 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: they're compressed rubber. They're not metal the way they used 37 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: to be. That's what you told me. But um, so 38 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: I'm riding around with this rattling noise and I don't 39 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: know whether the motives gonna fall out or something else, 40 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: because I thought it was something with the heating and 41 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: corn because once it runned up it started to stop. 42 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: And use it to me, well, if you're driving with it, 43 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: you're not going to hear it. Let's let's all the time. 44 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: Let's take a let's take a pause here. First of all, 45 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: this noise, does it happen only while you're driving or 46 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: if you're sitting at a traffic light in gear waiting 47 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: for the light to change. Do you still hear it? Yes? 48 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: When I'm in drive and to to stop it from 49 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:27,679 Speaker 1: doing not stop you stop it from doing it. I 50 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: put it in neutral. Okay, so it goes away in neutral? Yes, 51 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: did the dealer he? Now, it will come back, but 52 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: if I stepped heavily on the brake, it stops. So 53 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: it's almost like when I'm in motion. Right, Well, waitn't 54 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: now mary? Did the dealer here of the noise? Yes? 55 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: He did. Finally he did. When I pulled it back 56 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:53,239 Speaker 1: and pulled it forward in the noise. If you put 57 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: it in reverse, sitting at the traffic light, you hear it. 58 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: In drive, you put it in neutral, it goes away. 59 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: If you put it in reverse, do you still hear 60 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: the noise? Yes? You do? Yes, Okay, No, sitting there 61 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: at idle, No, that does. Listen to what I said, 62 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: Listen to what I asked. Sitting there at a traffic light, 63 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: waiting for the light to change, or a stop sign, 64 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: all right, or in your driveway all right. If if 65 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: the noise is there and you're sitting in drive, you 66 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: put it in neutral, the noise goes away. If you 67 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: put it in reverse, does the noise change pitch, tone, 68 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: or disappear? That's the question. It's still there, just as 69 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: if the car was in drive. Okay. Now is the 70 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: dealer saying for sure it's motor mounts or they're guessing? Well, 71 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: to me, it sounds like they're guessing. But he claims 72 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: that's what it is, and that's all I can say 73 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: because that's what he's telling me. Now, it's possible, and 74 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: from your description it sounds logical to me. But I 75 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: would have to say, there's gotta be a little more 76 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: diagnosis made. And there's a couple of ways they can 77 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: do that, you know, duplicate the noise, hood up the 78 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: vehicle chalk so it doesn't roll away, parking break on, 79 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: and so on. Somebody's foot on the brake pedal sitting 80 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: there while the noise is happening. If we were to 81 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: take a pride bar and push pull polke prod on 82 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: that motor mount Do we change the tone or the 83 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: sound of that noise? And if we do, yes, the 84 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: motor mounts are rubber. Yes, the motor mounts have gotten 85 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 1: hard from age and they don't have the ability to 86 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: suppress vibration anymore. And it's being transmitted transmuted to the 87 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: frame and it's it's you're feeling it throughout the car. 88 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: There's a resonance. My concern is is there another Is 89 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: this related to to um Could body mounts be hard. 90 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: Everything's made of rubber, Everything insulates on rubber. Could we 91 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: have a body mount tissue? Could this be a body 92 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: panel that has vibrated loose over time? So that the 93 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: real question is how certain are they I'm not arguing 94 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: the point. I think they're onto something. But some simple 95 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: tests changing the load, changing you know what gear is 96 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: in that it happens reverse or drive changes the the 97 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: the position or load on the mount, all right, and 98 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: you know, pushing on the mount, prying on it a 99 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 1: little bit, taking some of the load off, changing it, 100 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 1: that will do the same thing. The fact that it's 101 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: not there in neutral, but it's there in drive and 102 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: reverse tell me it's engine load. The fact that it 103 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: can be duplicated. Sitting at a stop sign means it 104 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: can be duplicated sitting in an engine bay. And last thought, 105 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: I bet the noise isn't there when it's um, when 106 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: the vehicle is warmer or warm, out is the noise 107 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: there year round? Well, I've only I've had it for 108 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: about three months. But no, I've only had it since 109 00:05:56,240 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: the winter. I mean think really the first October? Well 110 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: was it? You know, if it's sixty seventy degree weather, 111 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: do you notice the sound? Um? I don't remember. I'm sorry, 112 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: but you see that's and that's a and that's another 113 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: point because how cold is it in Virginia Beach today? Um? Today, 114 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: it's cold? I remember that when I was down there 115 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: doing the car show a couple of weeks ago. It's 116 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: cold in Virginia Beach. Um by that wind comes off 117 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: the ocean and it's you know, it's I'm sure it's 118 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: cold today. And the noises there in the forties. I 119 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: wonder if it was eight degrees does the noise go away? 120 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: Here's the ultimately, That's what I was wondering to right. 121 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 1: That's why I said to him, I don't want to 122 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: wait till the summer, right right, So here's the question 123 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: for you, and then I gotta go, You gotta go, 124 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta talk to the dealer and ask them, 125 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 1: a is the car in any danger? Is it? Okay? 126 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: If you wait till summer, all right, because you want 127 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: to see what's gonna happen when the weather does get 128 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: warm out? All right? Be how sure are they that 129 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: it's amounts? All right? And then see, um, can you 130 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: give me a firm price, because if it is motor Mans, 131 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: they should be able to estimate that job and come 132 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: up with more than just it's a thousand dollar guests. Um, 133 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: but do those things and if you need me, I'm here, 134 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: call me back. And I appreciate the call. And uh, um, 135 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: nice place, Virginia Beach. I enjoyed my time. Let's get 136 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: over and talk to Matt in Ohio. Matt eighty nine, Bronco. 137 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: What's going on? Matthew? Yeah, Ron, I can hear you. 138 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: Sure what's going on? Okay? Good? Um? The problem is, uh, 139 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: the fuel gage doesn't work. It hasn't never worked since 140 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: I've had it, so I imagine it's probably in the 141 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: field tank with my luck. So my idea was I 142 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: was gonna drop the fuel tank while I'm there, clean 143 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: the fuel tank out, replaced the pump anyway, since I'm there, 144 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: and hopefully they will fix the problem. This is the 145 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: field delivery system where there's a low pressure pump in 146 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: the tank and then there's a reservoir and then it 147 00:07:54,680 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: goes into a high pressure pump. Um. My question was, uh, 148 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: would it be a good or a bad idea to 149 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: replace that system with just one high pressure pump in 150 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: the fuel tank? Does somebody make it? Does somebody make 151 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: everyplacement module that's just one pump. Then next year they 152 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: went to one single pump and then the same body style. 153 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: If we know that it will work and provide proper 154 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: fuel delivery, same fuel pressure, same parameters. Everything else was 155 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: the same. As far as I know, I'm thinking it's like, yes, 156 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: I probably yes, spec spec engine running on those cars 157 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 1: with thirty thirty five to forty and then with the 158 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: key on engine off it was thirty five to forty 159 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 1: five was a good range of motion, you know, fuel delivery, 160 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: fuel delivery without knowing, you know, And I'll be honest, 161 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 1: I don't remember that they had two pumps in the system. 162 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: And then they went to one My issue is, you know, 163 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: fuel's fuel. We had a we had a big block 164 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: suburban UH eighty six suburban UH four or five months 165 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: ago in the middle of the summer, we couldn't get 166 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: the vehicle to stop going into what all call fuel 167 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: vapor lock and big block, very hot car underneath, very 168 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: hot chassis temperature all the time, and we finally caught 169 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: it in the act. And regardless of fuel pump, regardless 170 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: of what we did, fuel was always vaporized. And I 171 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: think underhood temperatures are so high on that vehicle, I 172 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: think there was a different boil off pressure of fuel 173 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: from eight six verses. We put an electric in tank 174 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, an electric rail pump on that to help 175 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: feed fuel to the mechanical pump and haven't had a 176 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: problem since. And we tried everything. We tried replacement pumps, 177 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: we you know, we we went the Gamut experimentation. So sometimes, yes, 178 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: an older vehicle you do have to modify. Now my 179 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: question is can you still get a low high fuel 180 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: pressure pump assembly? Can you get a high pressure pump assembly? 181 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: And whose brand would it be? I can still buy 182 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: the high one that and that one's actually motorcraft still 183 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: makes that one at least I can find it online. 184 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: But for the low one, I can't. It's all aftermarkets. 185 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 1: For the low dump, right, I would. I would if 186 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: it's if it's a motorcraft piece, by all means, I would. 187 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 1: I would definitely do it. And I would also be curious. 188 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 1: You know your your level. Let's go back to your 189 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: original complaint. Your original complaint or concern was the fuel gauge. 190 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: You know that should be a zero to ninety or 191 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: a zero to seventy five on gauge um a resistance 192 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: value on the sender. So it should be a fairly 193 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: simple test to do a sweep test and see does 194 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 1: it sweep high, sweep low? And you know, while you're 195 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:37,439 Speaker 1: there changing the parts, everything is thirty years old. Yeah exactly, 196 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: you know, clean everything out right, um, but yeah, by 197 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: all means. But as far as swapping it over, I 198 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: would take a look at the wiring diagram, what runs 199 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: the pumps, what's the difference, and if the wiring looks 200 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: the same or something you can just modify. Yeah, I 201 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: would say it's worth a try, especially if you can't 202 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: get especially if you can't get a Ford or a 203 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: motorcraft part. For the vehicle anymore. I would stay away 204 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,959 Speaker 1: from the aftermarkets stuff on something like that. Yeah, I 205 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: didn't think about the current that might be needed down 206 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 1: by the low pressure pump. Might need a much less current, 207 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: might have a well. And again look at the wiring diagram. 208 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 1: What what sized fusees feeding the pump circuit on the 209 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: eight nine versus the ninety And if they're both fuses 210 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 1: and I don't know what they are at the top 211 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: of my head, but if they're both and fuses, then 212 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: you're fine. If it's something higher, then we'd have to 213 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: talk about that a little bit about putting in an 214 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: additional Maybe we wire in a relay and put a 215 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 1: switching relay back by the pump. They can take higher 216 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: current draw and make it work like that. So but 217 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: let's find out what parts are really available first and 218 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: then we'll go from there. Okay, you're okay to Matthew, 219 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: I'm here if you need me, brother, You're very welcome. 220 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: Eight zero zero. The car doctor is coming back right 221 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: after this. That's right. If you call and we're not live, 222 00:11:57,840 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: you can leave a message and we'll call you back 223 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: to get on the air with ron Zo. Nine nine 224 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: zero zero. Speaking of ron there. He is a real 225 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: quick for Matthew and Ohio, matt if you're still listening, babe, 226 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: before you change the fuel pump on that Bronco, think 227 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: about two. Is the tank the same will accommodate the 228 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: different fuel pump? And what was the fuel injection system 229 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: or what's the end fuel delivery to the engine the 230 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: other end? Is it the same injection et cetera style system, 231 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: different or same injectors, so on and so forth. So 232 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: some more research has to be done before you just 233 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: make that change. I just wanted to. That popped into 234 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: my head while I sat her thinking about it during 235 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 1: the break Debbie in Maryland with the eleven escape, you're 236 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: up next? What's going on here? Deb? Well, I don't know. 237 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: Every now and then when we drive and we slow down, 238 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: our two thousand eleven escape makes a clunk sound. Okay, 239 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: how many miles were on it? Um? Maybe? All right? Um? 240 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: You know is it low speed breaking, high speed breaking? 241 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter, just slowing down in general. Ah, well, 242 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: we don't ever do high speed. Yeah. I mean, you know, 243 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: if you're if you're if you're doing sixty on the 244 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:08,719 Speaker 1: highway and you slow down to get off an off 245 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: ramp or you're never really out on the highway when 246 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: this happens. Now I think I think it waits until 247 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: we're lower speed. Okay, So it's it's typically as you're 248 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: as you're approaching the stop, so to speak, maybe ten 249 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: eight miles an hour, you're slowing that, and then all 250 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: of a sudden, it's a it's like a thump or 251 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 1: a clunky very visible, very very audible in the sense 252 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: that if you heal it, you hear it and you 253 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: feel it both at the same time. Correct. Okay, has 254 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: anybody looked at this gone through the front end the suspension, Well, 255 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: we mechanic about it, but and he drove it, but 256 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: it didn't happen anytime he's had it, Okay, so we not. 257 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: He's not really put it on the lift and looked 258 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: at it. All right, So hey, it's got to go 259 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: on a lift. It's got to go on a lift, 260 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,839 Speaker 1: regardless of whether anybody experiences it, because how many times 261 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: I've seen a suspension component, a ball joined the tyrod, 262 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 1: a strut piece rusted or frozen and it gets stuck 263 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: in one direction and then you know, you go around 264 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: the block, you change the weight of the load on 265 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,319 Speaker 1: the vehicle on that suspension component and pops. You know, 266 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: it's like your arm popping out of your shoulder socket. Right, 267 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: it's it's you know, so so for safety's sake, the 268 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: fact that you're driving it, he's got to look at it, 269 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: you know, Is there a torn dust food? Is there 270 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: is there something physical visual damage that they're that there 271 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: that they might just see. Maybe they're gonna lucky. It's 272 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: a lift rock um a lift right from regular customer. 273 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: The lifts always open. I say, all right, number one, 274 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: number two. Tell them to look carefully at the lower 275 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: control arms. In particular, I believe the elevens. They they're 276 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: rear bushing on the eleven escapes have a habit of 277 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: collapsing or shifting position. If he can take a pride 278 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: bar and pry that bushing to the point where at 279 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: the forms or it's out of shape, that bushing is 280 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: tired and starting to flex, and it's bad, all right. 281 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: I've seen I've seen lower control arms cause clunks on 282 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: these more than once, and it's a little difficult to find. 283 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: So pay attention to that rear lower control arm bushing 284 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: if it's so equipped, if it's that style suspension, depending 285 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: upon all wheel driver, wheel drive, et cetera. If he 286 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: is using if he is replacing the lower control arms, 287 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: absolutely positively has to use a forward part. The aftermarket 288 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: stuff doesn't work in this application. Um, he can. He 289 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: can find it on motorcraft. He can go out the 290 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: motorcraft dot com and dig it up. Um. But afford 291 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: piece is going to be to your advantage and your 292 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: benefit for the life of the vehicle. Um, it's just gonna. 293 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: It's just gonna. It's a it's a nicer sandwich, as 294 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: I like to say. All Right, So, um, you're very welcome. 295 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: You let me if you need more. I'm here for you, kiddo, 296 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: You're very welcome. Ron and Rochester, New York, twenty Honda Odyssey. 297 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: What's going on? Run? Uh yeah, good sir, Yes I 298 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: have Actually it's my father's vehicle. Okay, we just right, 299 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: congratulations and right, thank you. I was just wondering about 300 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: going through a car wash and having the underneath washed 301 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: at the same time. Absolutely, I just didn't. I just took. 302 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: I just took the suburban this morning, my old four 303 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: suburban with seventy thousand miles. It's getting old now. Um. Uh, 304 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: you know it's got all of seventy thousand miles on it. 305 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: It looked like it just rolled out of a soult bath. 306 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: This morning, when one of my kids came home for 307 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: the holidays, I saw this car truck. They said, that 308 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: can't be Dad's truck. It's dirty. I said, that's it. 309 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: I've I've never failed that test. So I had to 310 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: take it to the car wash. I had him do 311 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: the whole thing top, bottom up and down, inside out. 312 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: Now you know, I have no concern over um, what's 313 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: what's your concerned that you know we're gonna shoot water 314 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: into the wrong place on electronics? Uh? Yeah, No, it's 315 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: it's you got to think, you know that when they 316 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: manufacture a vehicle, if you saw the water tunnel that 317 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: they put a vehicle through, you would think they should 318 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: mount the snorkel and a and a and a torpedo 319 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: tube on the front of it, because they almost make 320 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 1: the thing a submarine. All right. It's it's incredible the 321 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: amount of water they drive these cars through. My only 322 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: concern with car washes is that the car wash uses 323 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: or reclaims or recycles or filters their water to get 324 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: the impurities out. Some car washers don't do a great job, 325 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: and you're basically spreading the salty crumby water from the 326 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: car in front of you onto your car. So you 327 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: know you've got to you've got to talk to them. 328 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: How do you guys handle you know, filtering your water 329 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: and and and see what they say to that? All right? 330 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 1: But you know, other than that, Yeah, I'm a fan 331 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: of car washes. I've been using car washes for thirty years. 332 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: I go to the better ones. I don't go to 333 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: the self serve car washes where you do it yourself, um, 334 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: you know, or I'll use a hand car wash, depending 335 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: on the vehicle. But by all means absolutely, by all means, yeah, 336 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 1: that's a big guess, sor um. I have no problems 337 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: with that, and I think you'll get you'll get longer 338 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: life out of the vehicle, all right, sir, And if 339 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:00,919 Speaker 1: you have any other questions, give us a call back. Hey, 340 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna pull over. Take a pause. Coming up next, 341 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 1: Mark and Florida stay on the line. Tourist problems with 342 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: turning the key and getting it to start, We'll answer 343 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 1: that for you and everybody else. So you guys stayed 344 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 1: put the car. Doctors coming right back right after this, 345 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: don't go away. Welcome back running into car doctor. Let's 346 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 1: go over and talk to Let's go talk to Mark 347 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 1: and Florida tourist. Mark. You're there, sir, Yes, I'm here. 348 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: So what's this? What's this car? Do or not do? 349 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: I don't know how to ask that question? Good? Okay? Yes, 350 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 1: Like I said, it's tours I like. And when I 351 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: crank everyone in the key, turn everyone in a key, 352 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: it's spins and it acts like it kind of starts. 353 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: I'm it really does it spiers and stuff and it 354 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: kind of like starts a little, you know, a little bit, 355 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: but it won't keep running, don't keep burning. So how 356 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 1: long has it been doing this? Well, it's sort of 357 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 1: wherever the weather cools down. You know. You know, I'm 358 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: gonna tell you all too much because I know all 359 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: these listeners might you might be interesting. Um, when the 360 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: weather started cooling down the last year, it wouldn't It 361 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: took expells, it wouldn't start, but then it always kept 362 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 1: coming back. Let me ask you, Let me ask you 363 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: this question. Let me ask you this question. Mark has 364 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 1: a mechanic tried to diagnose this when it's in this 365 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 1: no start scenario. Okay, yeah, I've called different girl. I've 366 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 1: called different Auto with Rump and I talked to him 367 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: and stuff, and they said it sounds like maybe it's 368 00:19:56,000 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: just a fuge. So nobody's but nobody's nobody's had nobody's 369 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: put their hands on this car to diagnose it. Not this. 370 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: Let me ask you, hey, Mark, let me ask you 371 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: a question. You're ready, What color shirt am I wearing today? 372 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:18,719 Speaker 1: Probably blue? No green? So you see, if if you 373 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: can't see me, you can't diagnose the color of my shirt. 374 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 1: And if I don't see the car hands on, I 375 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: can't diagnose the problem. That's my point. And I'm not 376 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not trying to be rude. I'm just 377 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: trying to, you know, stress the point that this to me. See, listen, 378 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: if you give me a broken car, it's a whole 379 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: lot easier to diagnose and repair than the one that's 380 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: doing it intermittently. So if if this is acting up, 381 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: it's and you really want to get it fixed, it's 382 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 1: got to get towed, all right, It's got to have 383 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: the problem when it gets to the shop, all right, 384 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 1: it's and and the basic things they want to check, 385 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: what's it missing? Is it missing? Spark, Is it missing 386 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: fuel pressure? Is it missing injector pulse? Those are the 387 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 1: three things I would look at. Does the check engine 388 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: light light up when you when you turn the key 389 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: to the on position and then go out after a 390 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 1: five second or two second delay. When you turn the 391 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 1: key to crank, I'm sorry, turn the key off. Turn 392 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: the key back on after counting to ten. If you 393 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: if you hear the fuel pump run, Do you hear 394 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: the fuel pump run? The fuel pump should prime for 395 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: two to five seconds. If it doesn't, why not? If 396 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: it does crank the car, you may not be able 397 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: to hear it buzzing. Somebody would have to listen with 398 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: the stethoscope at the base of the fuel tank. Does 399 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: the fuel pump continue to run? Doesn't have fuel pressure? 400 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 1: Here's my point. Here's here's how this diagnosis could go. 401 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: If this has if this is missing spark, injector pulse, 402 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: and fuel pump while cranking, This could be a crank sensor. 403 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: If this is missing. If this is missing just fuel pressure, 404 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 1: maybe it's a bad pumper or relay. If this is 405 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: missing spark and and so on, we're into a different area. 406 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: We've got an know what we're missing. If this was 407 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: a lawnmower with one cylinder, one spark plug and one 408 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: fuel and UH delivery device? What's missing? Make it simple? 409 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: But the shop's gotta the shop's gotta have their hands 410 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 1: on it. Because the shop can't answer the phone. And 411 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: I'm amazed the shop would take the time to tell 412 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: you maybe it's a fuse. I would tell you the 413 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 1: same story. I'm telling you now what color shirt am 414 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: I wearing? Because if I can't see it, I can't 415 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: fix it. But those are the basic things they can 416 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: look at, and I get it. I know it's scary 417 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: sometimes to take it into a repair shop, but brother, 418 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: you gotta bite the bullet and go because it's only 419 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: gonna get worse and leave you high and draw. Hopefully 420 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: you've got a regular mechanic, get it into him and 421 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: let them take a look at it, and um do 422 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: that and if they still can't fix it, call me back. 423 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: But I'll be wearing a different color shirt that day. 424 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 1: Frank and delaware? What's going on? Frank? How can I help? Hey? Ron? Yes? 425 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: What do you? What's your opinion of it? About Toyota 426 00:22:55,800 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 1: a Highlander? Uh? The suv all wheel drive overall, what 427 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: your opinion is, I'm thinking about purchasing that. How many 428 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: miles on it? It's got three? Okay, nice car. My 429 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 1: one of my daughters is driving a Toyota UM fore Runner. 430 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: I think it's the fore Runner s R five. Yeah, 431 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: I think that sounds right. Um, she likes it. Good 432 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: solid vehicle. I like Toyota's. I like Fords. Uh you know, 433 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: I'm um, I'm not going to mince words. I think 434 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: I think Ford or Toyota or neck and neck in 435 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: my mind right now. Um, you know, listen, I see 436 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: I see issues with all the alleged supercars everybody thinks 437 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 1: are impervious to fault and failure. I see as many 438 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: broken Hondas and Toyotas as I do Fords in the 439 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: shop as anything else. They all break. Uh you know 440 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 1: it's it's if if I was out car shopping, it 441 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: would probably be Ford or Toyota, and the edge would 442 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: probably go to Ford. And I still like certain GM models. 443 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: I think GM still builds a great pickup truck. I 444 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: think they build a great suv. Some of their cars 445 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: UM a little shaky on because I see what they're um, 446 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: I see how they hold up or not hold up 447 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: after five or six years. So, um, what's your what's 448 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: your opinion on the all wheel drive versus either two 449 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: wheel drive or even four by four? Where do you live? Yeah? 450 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 1: You know Delaware? Do you do you get snow? Do 451 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: you get bad weather? Do you you know? Oh? Not 452 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: not that often. I mean it's it's not like where 453 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: you live in Jersey, right, I mean, if there's if 454 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: there's a four wheel drive version of that that you 455 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: can take it in and out of four wheel drive. 456 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: I think four wheel drive as a rule, across the 457 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: manufacturers that are out there today, four wheel drive as 458 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 1: a rule, so it's four wheel or two wheel and 459 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 1: you're flipping it in and out. I think it's easier. 460 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: I think it's easier to maintain and cheaper on the pocketbook. 461 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,479 Speaker 1: All right. I don't know that all wheel drive becomes 462 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: the predominant issue that I needed. One of the things 463 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 1: I see on a lot of vehicles that are four 464 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: wheel versus all wheel. All wheel vehicles as a rule, 465 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: get a little persnickety and snotty. Um, And I'm gonna 466 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: patent that phrase persnickety and snotty when it comes to 467 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: tire diameter. Okay, because you know, if if the front 468 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: tires are worn a little bit more than the rears, 469 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: or a whole lot more than the rears, or one 470 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: tires worn more than the other three, it can affect 471 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: all wheel drive um operation and you know, cause a 472 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 1: binding and cause certain issues with the vehicle in the 473 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: way that it works. So you know, maybe I've got 474 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: a tire that's got a little less diameter on it's 475 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: starting in July, I can drive that thing in two 476 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: wheel drive all summer and then come winter put four 477 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: new tires on it. You know what I'm saying. It 478 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: gives me more options. Um, you know how much I'll 479 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: say it like this, and I'm gonna talk it from 480 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: me all right. One of the things I've learned about 481 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 1: myself in life, I tend to panic, and I'll it'll 482 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: always be a jack rabbit move to like. I gotta 483 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: have the biggest, the best, the most, the shiniest, you know, 484 00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: I gotta have. I gotta have all wheel drive for 485 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 1: when a volcano we rup, so I can ride the 486 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: top of the lava to get the heck out of dodge. 487 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: You know what, in all my years, I've never used 488 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: half the stuff I prepped for I'm still prepped. I'm 489 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,439 Speaker 1: a good boy scout. I just don't know that I 490 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: need to be that well prepared. If I've got a 491 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,719 Speaker 1: choice between two wheel drive, four wheel driver, or all 492 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: wheel drive, I'll take the four wheel drive. Does that 493 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: make sense? That makes sense? All right, sir? Thank you much. 494 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: You're very welcome to Christmas. You two, sir, Thank you. Um, 495 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 1: let's uh should we take one more, Mikey, let's take 496 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 1: let's take We got a minute. I bet I can 497 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: do it in a minute. Let's do this in a minute. 498 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 1: Let's go to uh in Nebraska and you got a minute, sir? 499 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: What's going on? Yes, sir? On like your show. UM, 500 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 1: The question I have is, uh, on these new cars 501 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: where you the stop stop the engine at a stop 502 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: signer or a red light, how do they restarted? Is 503 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: the engine starter used or is it some other magic 504 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: of electronics? Okay, you got both feet on the ground. Okay, 505 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 1: your your right foot's pushing on the ground. Right, pick 506 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: your right foot up. That's the time that you did 507 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 1: that you released your right foot from the ground. Is 508 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: the time that it saw you take your foot off 509 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: the brake pedal and it started the car in a 510 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 1: blink of an eye. And that's what electronics do today. 511 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: It's that simple. Now. The downside is somewhere down the line. 512 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: A lot of us in the industry believe that there's 513 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: gonna be somewhere and tear and other factors that are 514 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: gonna cost these cost more to maintain these stop start vehicles, 515 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: namely quality of oil, viscosity of oil, type, brand, correct oil. 516 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: Oil is a big factor and stop start car. Obviously, 517 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: a battery is a big factor in a stop start car. 518 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: The starters from the ones we've seen go bed and 519 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: have to get replaced, are running somewhere between eleven and 520 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,360 Speaker 1: fift dollars, whereas a starter motor and a traditional car 521 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 1: of that same body style is in the range. So 522 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: there's a higher cost factor. But they work simply by 523 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 1: the computers reading brake switch and other factors. And it's 524 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: it's it's it's flipping the switch and starting the car 525 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 1: back up in the blink of an eye. I appreciate 526 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 1: the call it and I appreciate the comments. Merry Christmas 527 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: to you and yours. I'm Ron, any of the car doctor. 528 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,679 Speaker 1: We're back right after this. Welcome back. Let's get over 529 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 1: to Dodge in Delaware, Dodge, Go Dodge, How are you 530 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: shirt on? I can see it? Well, you can see it. 531 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 1: You know, I didn't change it during the break? What's 532 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: going on? Brother? But I have a two thousand fourteen 533 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: Jeep Grand Cherokee and it says it's four by four. 534 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: But my question is is it really? It depends which 535 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: transfer cases in it. There's a choice of two. There's 536 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: a thirty three or one of them is a single 537 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: speed transfer case that that has what Chrysler brands is quadratrack, 538 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: and then the thirty three has select track, which is 539 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: a two speed on demand act of four wheel drive. 540 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: So which one is it? Now? Theoretically they're both all 541 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: wheel drive, but it depends on interpretation. When you look 542 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: at the shift control, what do you have a little 543 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: shift knob that you spend? Yeah? Right? Does it ever 544 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,479 Speaker 1: give you the option of two wheel drivers? I got 545 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: the picture of the cactus, the sand, the snow and 546 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: all the other non Yeah right, So you've got you've 547 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: got full time four wheel drive. You've really got full 548 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: time all wheel drive that is splitting the torque and 549 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,479 Speaker 1: the load depending upon wheel speed slippage, and it has 550 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: an internal either it's likely the it's probably the one 551 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: speed set up, and it's got the open differential that's 552 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: allowing the transfer case to split the load so it 553 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 1: doesn't bind on turns. So there's another example. Right, they 554 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: tell you it's four wheel drive, but it's not now 555 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: point right, So it's so now you're into. You know, 556 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: now you're into And I should have pointed this out, 557 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: and I'm glad you brought this up. Before we start 558 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: thinking about playing with tire diameter and sizes based on 559 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:00,959 Speaker 1: whether it says four a wheel or all wheel. You've 560 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: got to know what you've really got because the marketing 561 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: guys are involved here, the same marketing guys that helped 562 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: create oil change intervals, and they've given us the ability 563 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: now to get totally confused. Sometimes the easiest way is 564 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: put the vehicle up in the air on a lift. 565 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: Drive it at twenty miles an hour. How many wheels 566 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: are turning? Dodge? I appreciate the question. We could chat 567 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 1: about this for hours. Let me go take Mica as 568 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: my last call this hour. Mica Maine, Yes, sir, what's 569 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: your What have we got here? Mike? Always good to 570 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: talk to you, Always good to talk to you. And 571 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: Marry Christmas to you guys. Um. I saw an article 572 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: of Popular Mechanics magazine, and I always knew this, that 573 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: it's not really good to warm up a car anymore 574 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: like we used to and let him run for a 575 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: long time. But you know, my car is stored outside. 576 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: I don't have a garage, and it's cold up here 577 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: in Maine, and I have a remote start on it. 578 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: I live at the bottom of a hill. Where do 579 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: you think Popular Mechanics is published. What do you think 580 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: those guys live. I wonder if they live in Florida, 581 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: you know, And that's what I always think about. You know, 582 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: I saw the article. I saw the article the same 583 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: when you're talking about Mike, and you know, I thought 584 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: about it the other day. I do the gym in 585 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: the morning. I get up at war, I go to 586 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: the gym for five am. Okay, if you think I'm 587 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: going outside at quarter to five in the morning in 588 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: December into a cold car, and never mind that the 589 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: seats are cold, the cars cold, and the car's moaning 590 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: and growning because it's ten degrees, but there's frost on 591 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: the windshield, there's ice on the windshield. I disagree with them. 592 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: I think it's not unreasonable to warm a car up 593 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: four to six minutes at least, to get it up 594 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: to temperature or close to temperature to the point that 595 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: you can clear the windshield. Because it's a safety issue. 596 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: You're you're you're driving down the road at five in 597 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: the morning or even three in the afternoon, whenever you 598 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: can barely see out the windshield. It's it's a it's 599 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: a problem. I you know, I don't understand. I read 600 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: the article and it talked about how they're worried about 601 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: oils today and the oils aren't able to protect the 602 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: engine under certain circumstances that we're providing contamination to the oil. 603 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: The oils today are so darn good. You know, we're 604 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: all probably changing oil to much just my mechanical opinion. 605 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: I don't have scientific proof of that, but I can 606 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: tell you that I have seen a steady decline of 607 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: engine repairs, engine failures. And I know these people are 608 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: warming up cars. I know nobody's changing their habits. You know. 609 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: It's sort of like, do you think people want to 610 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: do away with Starbucks because they're tired of having that 611 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: big cup of latte coffee? All right? I don't think 612 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: that's going away anytime soon. And I don't think warming 613 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: up the car is going away anytime soon. I personally 614 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: think the real issue with warming up the car that 615 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: has everybody's you know, cackles in an uproar is they're 616 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: worried about the emissions into the environment. And the fact 617 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: is they made the car run so clean. I don't 618 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: know that that's a concern so much anymore either. But 619 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: you know, like I said, I wonder where the publisher. 620 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: I wonder where the writer of that article lives. Probably 621 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: Florida or southern California. Yeah, maybe there you don't need 622 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: to but North Jersey or Maine. At five in the morning, brother, 623 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:54,719 Speaker 1: you need to warm up the car, and you need 624 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 1: to warm up an older car simply because of the 625 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: fact that it allows you to find out that something 626 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: break in the middle of the night when the weather 627 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: is cold. Right, And where do you want to be 628 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: when the cool leak starts because of the hose that 629 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: snapped off of the plastic water neck or the plastic radiator. 630 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: Do you want to be three blocks from the house 631 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: and the cold and your and your gym shorts, or 632 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: do you want to be in a warm car finding 633 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 1: out in the driveway. I want to find out in 634 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: the driveway, Mike, I love you. Merry Christmas to you 635 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: and yours brother. Have a good, safe, healthy, happy New Year. Hey, 636 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 1: you know coming up next something that's become a very 637 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: big tradition here on the car Doctor would glad to 638 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: present it to you each and every year. I'm Ronanani 639 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: and don't go away, stay tuned. It was the night 640 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: before Christmas, and all through the dark not a car 641 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: was still broken. All the plugs had their spark, the 642 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: wrenches were stashed, all snug in their boxes. Well, me 643 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: by myself was having Christmas party leftovers, some bagels and 644 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: lockses went out from the lot. There rose such a clatter. 645 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: I sprang to my feet and yelled, hey, what's the 646 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: matter now? What to my bloodshot, tired eyes should appear? 647 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 1: But some crazy old guy went sleigh with reindeer. I winced, 648 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: and I cried, oh great, just one more. I'd rather 649 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: sit back, have a cup of tea and some s'moores. 650 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,399 Speaker 1: And he approached the front door with a smile so bright. 651 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,280 Speaker 1: I quickly unlocked it and turned back on the office life. 652 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 1: Excuse me, kind servant, I'm having some trouble. The left 653 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 1: runner on my sleigh has started to wubble. The balance 654 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 1: is wrong and it pulls to the right. The reindeer 655 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: are working too hard this cold night. I have so 656 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 1: much to do and no time left to do it. 657 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,359 Speaker 1: Do you think that it could well? Please get right 658 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: to it? Without saying a word, I went to work 659 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 1: right away, to bed the alignment machine and no specs 660 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 1: for a sledg. Meanwhile, the reindeer were prancing around that 661 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: root up in common with a couple of clowns. In 662 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: a matter of moments time one point too, the runner 663 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,359 Speaker 1: was straight in the alignment done too. I helped him 664 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 1: load up all the presents but one. He left it 665 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: to pay me for cash he had none. I hope 666 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: it's from snap on a half inch drive air gun. 667 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: He started the sleigh by me, really calling their names 668 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: on desh Er and Dancer, Donner and Blitzen. Get up 669 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 1: off your butts, Rudolph comment, Vixen. It started to idle 670 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 1: and float in the air. Then Rudolph lit up the 671 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: sky with his nose extraordinary, and I heard him exclaim, 672 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,360 Speaker 1: this could have been quite a mess. The car doctor 673 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 1: rings true. The mechanics aren't expensive, they're really priceless. And 674 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:41,800 Speaker 1: and Chris lessas me