1 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: Sweep sweep Phillies, no wins at City Field in almost 2 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: a full calendar year. The Mets own that ass. They 3 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: own that ass in City Field. The Phillies got nothing, 4 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: and they absolutely beat the piss out of them mentally, physically, emotionally. 5 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: It's back. The NLES is back on. We got four 6 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 1: games against the Phillies. Next week. We got this Marlin 7 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 1: series coming up. Keep playing good baseball and wild card 8 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 1: is not enough. We can go out and get that 9 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: NLES from the Phillies, which is that's That's where I've 10 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: got my eyeset on. I am so one hundred and 11 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: seventy five percent back in on this team. They showed up. 12 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: This series absolutely dominated the Phillies and it was phenomenal 13 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: start to finish with the little Ryan Helsley drama in between, 14 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: but everything else was awesome. This years we're going to 15 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: talk about it as always was in the ballpark for 16 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: all three games. Couldn't miss us. Must watch baseball, You 17 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: guys know the drill. Though. Make sure you're following us 18 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: over on our social media at Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, metst 19 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: up over there. If you're listening to us, Apple Podcast, Spotify, 20 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,919 Speaker 1: Google Drops the ring and drops, review, download and subscribe, 21 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: and of course for the YouTube viewers out there, if 22 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: you're watching this on YouTube, go subscribe. Hit that subscribe 23 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: button right now. Does really help out what we do 24 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 1: over here. We appreciate all of you. James, you weren't 25 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: here Wednesday night, but you were there Monday Tuesday. Pretty 26 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: fucking electric. 27 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 2: Right incredible. I was upset just to not even be 28 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 2: there on Wednesday, but being able to watch the Nolan 29 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 2: McLean dominance and mastery from the beautiful view of television, 30 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 2: listening to Gary, Keith and Ryland just pontificate about what 31 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,279 Speaker 2: they're watching on the mound. This was a special series 32 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 2: by the Mets. We've been saying for the last few weeks, 33 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 2: as you guys have so eloquently told us in the 34 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 2: YouTube comments, that we go completely bipolar every single week 35 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 2: with the team, because how could we not, Like you've 36 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 2: seen this team play, but we said defiantly that we 37 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 2: need this team to show us that they were back, 38 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 2: they're ready, that they were had to kind of regain 39 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 2: our trust in a serious way. And these back to 40 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 2: back series against the Braves and the Phillies, especially the 41 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 2: way they just completely trounced this Phillies team in a 42 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 2: way to literally get them back in the NA least. 43 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 2: Like you said at the top, like this is this 44 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 2: is the proof we needed and now it feels a 45 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 2: lot different as we're about to head into September. 46 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, especially shout out the Dodgers for helping us out 47 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: sweeping the Reds as well. So that's just like a 48 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: what a double positive for the Mets to gain three 49 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: games on the Phillies, three games on the Reds. We 50 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: now set four and a half up on the National 51 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: League Wildcard for the last spot, and we're four back 52 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: of the Phillies. It is a great spot for the 53 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: Mets to be. Could be better. Wish it was, they 54 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: had opportunities, But now we're here and they're playing good 55 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: baseball and start to finish. The hitting has been great, 56 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: the pitching has been great, runs the scoring position has 57 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: been great. The only complaint I literally have is Ryan Helsley. 58 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: Otherwise everything else has been really good. Mendoza did a 59 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: great job managing this game as well, Like things just 60 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: feel like they're finally starting to click with this team again. 61 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 2: Very much starting to click and click in a big way. 62 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 2: And I do think again, you were at the ballparks, 63 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 2: you couldn't hear Gary, Keith and Ron a lot of 64 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 2: this resurgence. You can point directly to Nolan McLain. Yes, 65 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 2: oddly enough, as a rookie starting pitcher who's only been 66 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 2: on this team for eleven days now twelve days, and 67 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 2: you guys are listening to. 68 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: This, I would, honestly, I want to interject, I would 69 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: point a lot of this to Frankie Pepper's Bolognies because 70 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: we know the. 71 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 2: Bol is hot, the Bollignais is hot. Chat all you guys. 72 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 2: We've got like nine or ten Bolognier's pictures sent into us. 73 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: Trust the Sauce. This is I think this is the shot. 74 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: If if we see it in the comments section or 75 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: you tweeted us, we'll make the Trust the Shot Sauce 76 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: shirts ready for the postseason. 77 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and again, if you guys want to know how 78 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: to make Bolonniers two episodes ago, we pinned it in 79 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: YouTube comments and it's pinned I think on Frankie Pepper's 80 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 2: Twitter right now, and if not, I'll send him a text, 81 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 2: so we pins it going forward for you guys. But 82 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 2: it's just it is night and day, like we It 83 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 2: was probably very annoying through those horrible months of June 84 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 2: July when we were talking about the hitting and the 85 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 2: run just scoring position stuff and kind of harping on 86 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 2: the Mets approach and being like, while it's not good 87 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 2: right now, there's no way it can stay this bad 88 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 2: for this long. And now we're at the point where 89 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 2: since July first, the Mets are the second best team 90 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 2: with their batting average runs the scoring position on the year, 91 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 2: on the entire season. Do you know where we're at 92 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 2: runnings the scoring position WRC plus wise. 93 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: In terms of I'm like, where we rank in the 94 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: league or what the number is We're both. I'm gonna 95 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 1: say the number is gonna be one oh three WRC 96 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: plus and I'm gonna say we are seventeenth in baseball. 97 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 2: It is one twelve. WHOA that was before the game 98 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 2: on Wednesday, in the game where we went five for 99 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 2: eight runs scoring position. 100 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: So we and that's fourth. 101 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 2: So we might be well first, second, or third of 102 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 2: every team in baseball in the twenty twenty five season 103 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 2: with our WRC plus runs scoring position. And with that, 104 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 2: the batting average is up, the ops is up, like 105 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 2: we are all of the process things. Again, we're probably 106 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 2: so annoying to hear. We understand that put their hand 107 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 2: up for that. It's now just avalanched in a massive way, 108 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 2: and we seems like for a week straight we've gotten 109 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 2: almost every single timely hit. 110 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know about you guys, but I 111 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: never doubted Eric Schavez and Jeremy Barnes. I knew that, 112 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: I knew that those were the guys that should be 113 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: in charge. Never doubt them for a second. I knew 114 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: Eric Chavez was right on Chavez was right, Barnes was right. 115 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: We always showed them the utmost respect on this show. 116 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: So I'm just glad that we were on the right 117 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: side of history with that one. 118 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and again, to be tongue in cheek, I think 119 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 2: there were so many like tiny little moments in that bats, 120 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 2: in these games specifically, where you could feel like the 121 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 2: things that we've talked about the process come about in 122 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 2: a huge way. My favorite, if we just want to 123 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 2: talk about some of our favorite big hits from the series, Yeah, 124 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 2: the Pete Alonzo doubled to take the lead off of 125 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 2: Ryan Kirkering in the fifth inning of Tuesday's game. He 126 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 2: we were talking about like kind of lamenting the fact 127 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 2: that Kirkering was coming into face Alonzo because he's kind 128 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 2: of has his number in the past, and we know 129 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 2: he just has the nasty sweeper and the good sinker 130 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 2: of the work off that, and we kind of expected 131 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 2: Pete the way he's been going over the last two months, 132 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 2: basically the chase of sweeper, put himself in the hole 133 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 2: and kind of not have a good at bat again 134 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 2: with one out and a guy's scoring position. He gets 135 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 2: that really tough sweep for the first pitch, spits on 136 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 2: it an inch off the edge. Next pitch, you gets 137 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 2: the sinker on his hands and he just yanks it 138 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 2: right into the gap for a double. Ops Field for 139 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 2: a double. No, yeah, put in the left center gap 140 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 2: for a double and you take the lead on that 141 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 2: Citnyfield goes into a fucking raucus. And that was just 142 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 2: a moment where I was like, oh wow, that was 143 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 2: an executed plan that definitely someone came to the play 144 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 2: knowing what the pitcher's going to do them they do it, 145 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 2: you're ready for it, and then you attack it. 146 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: And I know the Mets got a lot of singles 147 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: in these moments too, but I do feel like the 148 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: Mets were hitting the ball hard. It wasn't like trying 149 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: to just flick the ball to opposite field for a single. 150 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: I know we got a couple like Brett Baty did 151 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: kind of get lucky with that blue But sometimes we 152 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: need that. Sometimes you just have to have that that's baseball, 153 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: like we have been getting that against us so much. 154 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: So it's nicely that hit drive. But like I know 155 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 1: a lot of people are making fun of me because 156 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: Brandon imgg walk Off hit to left center field, but 157 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 1: he smoked the baseball. I just want you hitting the 158 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: ball hard. The reason we say pulled so much is 159 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: because you hit the ball harder. And you've heard Daniel 160 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: Murphy on this podcast even talk about pull the ball 161 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: over the infielders. You only got one guy to beat. 162 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: You gotta beat that right field if you're a left 163 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: handed batter. So that's why we talk about it. But 164 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: if you hit the baseball hard, regardless of where you 165 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: hit it, you have a very good chance to get 166 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: a hit. It's the quality of contact, and the Mets 167 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: right now we're making high quality of contact. 168 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: And on the flip side of that, also continuing to 169 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 2: channel Murph, it's this idea that this team I think 170 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 2: has gotten a lot better recently at playing the scoreboard, 171 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 2: understanding situation, doing what you have to do. And I 172 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 2: oddly think a lot of that has kind of trickled 173 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 2: down from Starling Marte, who I just can't believe how 174 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 2: how good he's been, how good he's been, how important 175 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 2: he's been, how Lucy's. 176 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: Kept every They never doubted my king. I loved it 177 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: when I loved when we signed him. And then I 178 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: let I let a little of you creep in, let 179 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: a little bit of you, because you've been a little 180 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: anti Marte at times I have, I let it creep in. 181 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: I doubted my boy, and he proved me wrong. In 182 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: shout out Starling Marte, because this team is nowhere without 183 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: him this year, and I didn't think that was possible. 184 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 2: No, it's different. Ron Solo has some great quotes about 185 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 2: Marte after the game, about like how Lucy's kept the guys, 186 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 2: how much of a either he's been, how if anybody 187 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 2: has something to talk about, like Marte has been the 188 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 2: guy that kind of absorb all that, Like it's like, 189 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: it's ridiculous how important he's been to this team. Another 190 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 2: huge hand up the out wrong goes. That was the 191 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,239 Speaker 2: most wrong I've ever been by anything in my life, 192 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 2: private life, personal life, baseball life. It's not even close. 193 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 2: It's about how important Starling might today is to this team, 194 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 2: because I don't even know where they are without him. 195 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: He's just playing really good baseball, and hitting him three 196 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: to this day still feels bananas, but it's working. So 197 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: who cares? Like I don't care as long as things work. 198 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: Who gives a shit if it's the right way. Who 199 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: gives a shit if it's the proper way or the 200 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: analytical thinking way or whatever it is. Like Pete Alonso 201 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: clearly has to hit fourth. There's something mentally with Pete's 202 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: head where when he hits fourth he plays better because 203 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: when you hit starting Marte third, Pete fourth, he gets 204 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: four hits in the game. 205 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 2: And he also he also had a good game on Wednesday, 206 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 2: So hitting third like hit the hard a few times, 207 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:42,719 Speaker 2: wasn't like the best game, wasn't like what he was 208 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 2: able to do on on Tuesday. But like it's just 209 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 2: it's the click right now with this lineup is the 210 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 2: thing that we've kind of just been waiting for and 211 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 2: oh somewhat hoping for the whole year. It's a good 212 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 2: lesson for all of us as sometimes you don't have 213 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 2: to see something to know it's actually possible. Because we 214 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 2: knew how good these guys were, and everything that they 215 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 2: said and we commented did feel like bullshit the whole time. 216 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 2: But at this point, like you kind of look back 217 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 2: and applaud the confidence these guys were able to maintain 218 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 2: in themselves that they didn't know that they had the 219 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 2: ability to like cause this avalanche at some point, and 220 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 2: now that it's here, if you can sustain this kind 221 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 2: of bats like I know that frisis Squealber's got hit 222 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 2: on the hand again by a pitch, waiting for confirmation 223 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 2: on that, But then we saw Jesse Winkern a rehab 224 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 2: game too, Like Mark Fiento's just absolutely plastering the ball, 225 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 2: especially against lefties. Bred Bay hitting well, brand Nemog giving 226 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 2: huge props to Baty after his walkoff him on Tuesday. 227 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 2: It's like, there's it's a deep, complete lineup right now, 228 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 2: more so in this felt at any point this season. 229 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: Shout out Mark Viento's He's been playing so well, I know, uh, 230 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 1: spot out shout out the intern for posting the picture 231 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 1: of Viento's with his lady friend. But like since he 232 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: got that lady friend, the guy's been on absolute fire. 233 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: Now take that for what it is whatever. The confidence 234 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: that he currently has right now is exactly what we 235 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: saw last year and a weird thing that he's doing that. 236 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 1: Maybe this is just the version of Viento's and sometimes 237 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: this is a detriment to players we've seen guys in 238 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: the past. I'm not comparing Mark Viano's to Joe Vado 239 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: by any means, but we've seen Joey Vado at times 240 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 1: get way, way, way too passive to an extreme level. 241 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: Viento's is not walking at all. He's not walking at 242 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: all or striking out or striking out because he's putting 243 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: the ball in play. He's being aggressive on pitches in 244 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: the zone, he's attacking, he's taking really good at bats. 245 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: And maybe that's just the player he needs to be, 246 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: a guy who is going to be aggressive at the plate, swing, 247 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: make contact, put the ball in play. And I'm cool 248 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: with it because this version of Viento's is what we 249 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: saw last year. He's hitting the ball with authority. He's 250 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: pulling the baseball in the air, which we love to 251 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: see he's been hitting some bombs of home runs, and 252 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: when the pitches are on the outside part of the zone, 253 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: he's able to take it the other way to get 254 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: those hits deep into counts when he's behind. 255 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 2: I think that's the coolest thing about what he's done. 256 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 2: Seems like every single time he's gone one of these 257 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 2: big hits, he's gone with the pitch. It seems like 258 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 2: there's probably a lot of coaching that happened with Vanto's 259 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 2: and the things that we've been critical of him for 260 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 2: in the past. Again, not walking enough, striking out a 261 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 2: bit too much, needing to pull the baseball more. Sometimes 262 00:10:58,480 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 2: you kind of just have to be yourself. I think 263 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 2: that's the most important thing with coaching with athletes, with 264 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 2: people with everything in the world. And like that that 265 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 2: bat that he had against Taiwan Walker in the fifth 266 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 2: inning for that insurance run to make a four nothing. 267 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 2: That was I think one of like the bats that 268 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 2: really just should inspire us about what he could be 269 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 2: the rest of the season because he saw four pitches. 270 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 2: Now that bat two win the strike zone, two out 271 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 2: of the strike zone to two ata strike zone. He 272 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 2: did not swing the two win the strike zone. He 273 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 2: swung at in that sinker that he eventually hit directly 274 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 2: back through the box up the middle, that Tylan Walker 275 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 2: almost let break his hand on the way through. 276 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: Which was insane. 277 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 2: It's just he perfectly stuck with and went that pitch. 278 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 2: He had the great oposic field hit in the game 279 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 2: before he pulled the home run off the lefty late 280 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 2: in the game on Wednesday. Now he's a four hundred 281 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 2: batting average against lefties with seven extra base hits or 282 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 2: six extra base hits since August first, when the Lady 283 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 2: friend appeared on his Instagram story. It's just every single 284 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 2: little thing he's doing right in such a magnificent way 285 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 2: right now. And can I give you some Can I 286 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 2: give you some wsc pluses and ops's with runs to 287 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 2: score position for the Mets. 288 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: Sure, let me just chiming with a little Vento's thing, 289 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: by the way, because you guys know, I love to 290 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: look at where guys standing in the box. Bientto has 291 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 1: made an adjustment in the August There is an adjustment. 292 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 1: He's further back in the box that he's been this year. 293 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: He's closer to the plate, which is an interesting one. 294 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: Further back in the box closer to the plate. But 295 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: the big one is that he has made his feet 296 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: a lot closer together. Right now, he's not as wide 297 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: as he was. There's about an inch and a half difference. 298 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: And I will tell you, while the other ones might 299 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: are minuscule and maybe not something that's a true like 300 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: actual thought process of where he's standing in the box, 301 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: the difference between the distances in his feet is something. 302 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: There is clearly an adjustment that was made balance why 303 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: seeing the pitch whatever it is, And. 304 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great thing. I also wrote about Starling Marte 305 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 2: from NBC Sports in my weekly article on Tuesday. In 306 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 2: the past week, he's had his four hardest hit pulls 307 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 2: fly balls of this season. On three of those pole 308 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 2: fly balls, it was his three fastest swing on any 309 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 2: poll fly balls he's had this entire season, and his 310 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 2: bat speed has trended up. It was around seventy miles 311 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 2: per hour through April and May. He got up over 312 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 2: seventy two right before he heard his hamstring, and only 313 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 2: thirty swings in June, and then since She'll began it 314 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 2: was seventy one and a half and right now it's 315 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 2: about seventy two. And last year he was right there, 316 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 2: just a hair under seventy two miles prou on his batspeed. 317 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 1: So a Lotto two batspeed up as well. I'm talking 318 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: about Vantos oh, you said, Marte. 319 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm at Fianto's my ball on that. But that 320 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 2: is all that coming together. It's we're seeing a lot 321 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 2: of the similarities with the guy from last year. So 322 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 2: while we were very critical Vanto's and you guys have 323 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 2: really destroyed us on Twitter for being critical Fiano's, we're 324 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 2: seeing material change and he's falling to it. And now 325 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 2: I'm absolutely ready to play him every single day because 326 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 2: he's y. 327 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: Listen, haters fuel people. Sometimes maybe we're inspired Mark Fiento's 328 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: to be like, fuck these guys, I'll show him. I'm 329 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: good still. 330 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna give you some metsa ops's runs of 331 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 2: his scorn positions since July first. 332 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: Ready for these, I'm ready for it. 333 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 2: So the two guys who are still kind of bringing 334 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 2: up the rear but still playing pretty well, Pee Alonzo 335 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 2: and Brandon Immo bal seven thirty one exactly heading into 336 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 2: the game on Wednesday, seven thirty one OT League average 337 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 2: Francisco indoor A twelve Mark Fianto's eight thirteen, Brett Baty 338 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 2: eight nineteen, Juan so Though eight fifty. Could you guys 339 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 2: believe that? I can't believe that Wan so Though is 340 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 2: really go run the corp position. Can't believe how it's possible, 341 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 2: and then want to know the big one Starling Marte 342 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 2: a thousand with a three sixty batting average runs scoring 343 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 2: positions since July first. 344 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: It's uh, it helps, it helps a lot. This is 345 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: one of the few times where it's like batting average 346 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: with thrones in scoring position. It is important. It is important. 347 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 2: It's just it's important. It's important in the way that 348 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 2: the results wind up. It's not important about the way 349 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 2: that things could go in the future. And that was 350 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 2: kind of the point we always tried to make, and 351 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 2: that whole thing of like, these guys are good hitters, 352 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 2: they have to hit good and that's kind of the 353 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 2: spot we've gone to. Now it feels like every guy 354 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 2: in this team that's just taking great that bats great, hacks, 355 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 2: it's not it really feels like when these pitchers have 356 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 2: to get through this lineup. Besides for Hayden Sanger, there's 357 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 2: not a weak spot. And then Luis Terrenz had a 358 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 2: great series as well. 359 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: Louise Terrenz. And as much as Hayden Sanger can't hit, 360 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: and that's probably never going to change. He's been getting 361 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: sack flies, he's been laying down bunts. He's been doing 362 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: his job as the nine hitter. They've been treating him 363 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: kind of like the pitcher, and it's been working out. 364 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: He had a great butt but single where Taiwan jumped 365 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: off the mound and completely missed the ball. I don't 366 00:14:58,280 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: know how he missed it. I don't know what it 367 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: looked like on TV, but at the game it was like, 368 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: what in the world just happened? Do his job? Get 369 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: on base like that, make little plays. He doesn't need 370 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: to be the impact bad. He's just got to turn 371 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: the lineup over. 372 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 2: Is the time for the Nolan McClain power Hour. 373 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's please talk about this kid, because holy shit, 374 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: so shout out. My best friend Alex came to his 375 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: first Mets game of the year. What a game for 376 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: him to pick. We got through like the seven inks 377 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: because Noel McLain had what like sixty pitches through the 378 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: first seven and he's like, this game's going fast, and like, 379 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: you asshole, you Dick, Why did you say that? And 380 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: he had a big smile. He's like, you see how 381 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: this guy's pitch. He's like, this guy's amazing. He's so good. 382 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: He is noticeably amazing. To someone who doesn't watch baseball 383 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: like we do, you can just watch him pitch and go. 384 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: He's a little bit different than what the met's have 385 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: been having. 386 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 2: He is. He was surgical for the second start in 387 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 2: a row. It is funny how he pitched in that 388 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 2: first game against the Mariners, or it was just breaking balls, 389 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 2: breaking balls, breaking balls in like a shocking way and 390 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 2: getting through guys because now this is the pitcher that 391 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 2: was a little bit more advertised where it's just the 392 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 2: nasty sinker sweeper. And then against the lefties, just everything 393 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 2: we got against them. But it worked so unbelievably well. 394 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 2: He only faced one three ball count in this game 395 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 2: until there were two outs in the seventh inning. He 396 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 2: was perfect and not perfect. He faced the minimum through 397 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 2: this first six and two thirds innings as well. 398 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: He threw I think twenty eight pitches, which is technically 399 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: like three immaculate innings. I know it's not, but technically 400 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: it is. 401 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 2: But it's just is over and over and over again. 402 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 2: He was executing every single pitch against every single battery. 403 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 2: That curveball he broke off against Harper, and that was 404 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 2: at the fourth inning. The way he got both of 405 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 2: those guys, Harper and oh schwarbro curveballs and colors in 406 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 2: the first inning, the he guy. 407 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: Felt easy, man, it felt easy. 408 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 2: He threw all Six's pitches in this game. Sweeper, the sinker, 409 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 2: the curve, the fastball, the change up in the color. 410 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 2: All six forced multiple swings and misses like that. Seth Lugo, 411 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 2: you darbish type of deep arsenal shit. And this is 412 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 2: this is his third career start, even getting into that 413 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 2: situation trusting first of all men, those are trusting him 414 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 2: for the eighth inning, I thought was a great call. 415 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 2: As I thought there the chances didn't come back ot 416 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 2: for the ninth. He still like that he didn't come 417 00:16:59,040 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 2: out for the ninth. 418 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: I really liked he didn't. 419 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 2: But the fact that there were first and third with 420 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 2: nobody out got in trouble for the first time kind 421 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 2: of as a pro basically since like the fourth since 422 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 2: he since he made the behind the back play against 423 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 2: the Mariners, and he just toughed up hard and got 424 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 2: two week fly balls and jump off the man and 425 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 2: made a great play to end that eighth inning. I 426 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 2: was just like the fucking poise on a kid in 427 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 2: his third start against the biggest rival, with two guys on, 428 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 2: no outs in the eighth inning of a major league 429 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 2: baseball game. 430 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out Alec Bohm for being you know, so 431 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: fucking slow because. 432 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 2: Yep, if we haven't talked about Boone yet, yeah, I. 433 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 1: Mean we'll talk about him in a second a little bit more. 434 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: But like the fact that he's one of the slowest 435 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: players in baseball was huge as well. Shout out him 436 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: for being such a stud over there at third base. 437 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: He couldn't tag up on either of those balls. He 438 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: would have been hosed on the Sodo one. Nimo has 439 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: a noodle, has a bad arm, but he could have 440 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: Probably it would have been kind of close if they 441 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: sent him on that. But you couldn't because he's a 442 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 1: horrible athlete and he can't move, he's got heavy feet, 443 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: he's run with some men issues. But like it was 444 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: just that moment him being able to get through there, 445 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: like you said, to show that, to show that confidence, 446 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 1: to show the calmness. There's a quiet confidence with Noel 447 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 1: McLean where he just walks out on the mounds like 448 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: I'm I'm good, I got all the pitches and try 449 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 1: to hit them. He attacked the batters today, like you mentioned, 450 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: didn't get behind at all almost in this game. He's awesome. 451 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 1: He is must watch television, and I'm getting like silly, 452 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 1: silly excited about what this guy could look like for 453 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 1: the future. 454 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 2: Gary keithan Ron mentioned Matt Harvey's name multiple times. 455 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:29,959 Speaker 1: I mean, you could mention him. You could mention like 456 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: you can mention a lot of great Mets pictures. He's 457 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: doing some stuff that you don't see often. 458 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 2: It's the feeling, too, of the fact that there were 459 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 2: expectations and he's very quickly delivering in a magnificent way 460 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 2: in a pressure pack situation. And again he's doing it 461 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 2: with so many different weapons. Six different pitches he threw 462 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 2: against lefties in this game. He threw all six between 463 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 2: thirteen and twenty times. 464 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: It's crazy. 465 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 2: That's a disgusting depth of repertoire. Like I don't even 466 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 2: know how the like with accolade to give that like 467 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 2: that is like literally like you did the U Darvis 468 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 2: Seth Lugo shit, and they didn't have that when they 469 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 2: were twenty four years old. That came with time. It's 470 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 2: like this wide of an arsenal with disability to spin 471 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 2: the ball, and we can still see that. The command 472 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 2: for Nolan McLain does go in out like you could 473 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 2: feel that, because he feels like he's just such a 474 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 2: good athlete. It feels like he's so strong that sometimes 475 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 2: especially it was in that seventh inning when he let 476 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 2: the single go through. It was his first time pitching 477 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:19,199 Speaker 2: out of stretch basically the whole game. So I think 478 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 2: he threw one pitch out of stretch before getting that 479 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 2: double play. When Bom got the single in the second 480 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 2: or third whatever that was, and he lost his command 481 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 2: a little bit and Se'd Buckner bailed him Out'm not 482 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 2: sure if could see hi that TV wouldn't tell it 483 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 2: was a three to zero fastball or sinker whatever was. 484 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 2: He threw the JT real Muto two, which is off 485 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 2: the plate. He gave him a A and JT went who okay, 486 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 2: and then he got back in the zone. He got 487 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:39,360 Speaker 2: the out and I was like, oh, nice, like being 488 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 2: able to take advantage of the benefit that was given 489 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 2: to you. Also, no walk two straight starts like there's 490 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 2: we could just keep saying Nolan McLain's stats back and 491 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 2: forth to each other. We could probably do that for 492 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 2: the next twenty minutes. 493 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: He is so good. I mean, he's the best picture 494 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: in this rotation. I mean, is that crazy three starts? 495 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 2: We said that after the first and we forgot about 496 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 2: David Peterson. So I think, just as sticking with myself 497 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 2: the having to disrespect David Pearson to keep him good, 498 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 2: I'll say yes, McLain is the best hitter in this rotation. 499 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 2: But again, it's just like seeing the weapons that he has, 500 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 2: especially now seeing that the major league level for multiple starts, 501 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 2: being able to see the day, this scene, the way 502 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 2: hitters are responding seeing that, I'll have uncomfortable these phillies. 503 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 1: Guys. 504 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 2: Look in the box. If you scroll Pitching Ninjas Twitter 505 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 2: right now, it was half Nolan McClain tonight. Over He 506 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 2: gave him an overlay. He was talking about curve balls, 507 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 2: he was talking about sweepers like he He featured three 508 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,239 Speaker 2: different Nolan McLain pitches on the page tonight. It's just 509 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 2: it's uncomfortable at bad. It's a kid who's confidence. It 510 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 2: just has to be through the fucking roof. 511 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if you could tell, but like 512 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: his first at bat against Trey Turner, how he made 513 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: Trey Turner look absolutely foolish in that one. I was like, uh, 514 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: I think we might be in for a really good 515 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: game from Noel McLain, and I didn't think it was 516 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: gonna be anywhere even close to what he gave us. 517 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: I thought we'd get like six strong innings, maybe at 518 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: one or two runs to go eight give up zero 519 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 1: like that against the Phillies lineup a complete team as 520 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: so deemed by James Ciano most complete team in the league, 521 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: was complete team in the league, as he says, I. 522 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 2: Stand by that. I stand by that one hundred percent. 523 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 2: But it's also like to do this two times in 524 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 2: a row against the Braves and Phillies. 525 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: Like our two are are two fucking our biggest fucking rivals. 526 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 2: Like talk about getting thrown into the fucking fire, and 527 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 2: also doing some reflection about like how like a little 528 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 2: frustrated we might have been about mclin not being here 529 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 2: for those couple of months when we were struggling, But 530 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 2: at the same time, there's always such a butterfly effect 531 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 2: with these things. And we do know that he has 532 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 2: made some changes with his armslot and the movement on 533 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 2: the curb on the cover, especially like consistency of those 534 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 2: pictures wasn't really as there through those summer months. And 535 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 2: again like at this point, I wouldn't want to change 536 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 2: anything in the space time continuum that brought Nolan McLain 537 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 2: to this moment. I wouldn't want to change a breakfast 538 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 2: that he ate in twenty nineteen, like I don't want 539 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 2: to like I don't want to change a shirt that 540 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 2: he wore in twenty twenty two. 541 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: He was saying he was late to high school in 542 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, or wherever he was still in high school. 543 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 2: Like, no moment from Nolan McLain's life to this point 544 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 2: any kind of change could have benefited how he's been 545 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 2: these first three starts, because it's like top of the 546 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 2: career type stuff, first met starting picture ever to win 547 00:21:58,480 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 2: their first three starts. 548 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, he feels, uh, feels a little different, feels a 549 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: little exciting. I don't know about you guys, but every 550 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 1: time he pitches at City Field, I'm gonna make sure 551 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: I am there. 552 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 2: Oh, totally got another work up Friday, I know Jojah. 553 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,199 Speaker 2: This is also the thing where so much shit was 554 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 2: thrown at David Searn's over the middle months of the season, Like, 555 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 2: how could this guy have not gotten a picture? I 556 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 2: can't believe this is happening. And then you look around 557 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 2: the league right now and Corbyn Burns blew out of 558 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 2: his arm. Blake Snell's really he's dealt with injuries this 559 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 2: year and he's not been super effective. Nathan Valdi just 560 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 2: broke down finally, possibly for the last time. Jack flair 561 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 2: the's fucking turbo dog shit. Heyy suseless? Are those ra's 562 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 2: approaching five? Like seriously? 563 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: Like it turnball dog Shit's crazy? 564 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 2: All of the pictures that were the big name guys 565 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 2: this offseason. You look around and you're like, oh, I 566 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 2: don't really want any of my team this badly. 567 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: Jack Flaherty is turbo dog shit. 568 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 2: You think I'm lying about this stuff. I'm the number 569 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 2: one Jack flairty hate that. 570 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I thought you had like a r 571 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: at like three to eight. Oh dude, no, it's like 572 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 1: five and eight. 573 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 2: Oh yeah right now? Oh oh turbo dog shit. 574 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: Turbo Dogshit's being nice jesus, Yeah, I mean like again, 575 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: Matt Boyd was the missing people would have fucking gone 576 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: ballistic if Matt Board was the big sign of this offseason. 577 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure even Katana's hurt right now. And again, 578 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 2: we're still almost on the one year anniversary of Katana's 579 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 2: hot streak beginning when last year he had a five 580 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 2: ERA through four months of the season. Everyone that conveniently forgets, 581 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 2: but it's just I feel like, knowing these demons were here, 582 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 2: just absolutely waiting until the last moment, not shooting, so 583 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 2: they saw the whites of their eyes. 584 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 1: I am gonna give some flowers as well. I saw 585 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 1: this in the comment section, and people were right. Billy Eppler, Oh, 586 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: for sure, draft him, drafted him, drafted Jonah toong. Listen, David. 587 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: I think David Stearns got really good clay and he 588 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,239 Speaker 1: sculpted it into a masterpiece. But he didn't get that 589 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: play without Billy Eeppler. Billy Eppler shout out to him, 590 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: He's done a lot, weirdly for this team as well 591 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: to be as good as they are. 592 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 2: And also shout out the skying department, the amateur scouts, 593 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 2: like the people in charge of player development, like. 594 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 1: Chris Christie's kid. Right, what's his name Angela or something, 595 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: and there's Andrew Christie. 596 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 2: Let's go through the directory right now, because every one 597 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 2: of these guys deserves a shout out. 598 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: Each they're smack and they're crushing. 599 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 2: And also, like it seems like, again, we should probably 600 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 2: know exactly who these guys have been, how long they 601 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 2: have these jobs. But there's continuity in the Mets concepts 602 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 2: in these drafts, like yes, getting a Nolan McClain two 603 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 2: way guy, getting you Carson Bench two way guy, getting 604 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 2: a bitch Boy two way guy in three consecutive drafts, 605 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 2: Like it does seem like again, there is this continuity 606 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 2: where tongue is the alien that's totally separate. 607 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: It was a seventh round pick, like they just they 608 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: were like, let's let's throw this dart at a board 609 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 1: and then they were like, oh shit, it's a good dart. 610 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 2: They might have they might have gotten tongue because of 611 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 2: the forty man caveat that Matt Eddie we talked to 612 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 2: about now. He wrote into an article this week about 613 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 2: the birth month of guys between May and June for 614 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,360 Speaker 2: nineteen year old draftees pushing their forty man clock back 615 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 2: a full calendar year, where it's like, oh, I know, 616 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 2: I can develop this guy for one extra year before 617 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 2: I actually have to bring it in the roster. 618 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 1: We know Billy Upper likes to manipulate. 619 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 2: Oh, we do know he loves to manipulat. I'm sure. 620 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 2: And again, well we'll never know whatever happened with the 621 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 2: billiy up on manipulation who was out to get them? 622 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 2: But again Andy Green, Chris Gross, tom Atanus, who's been 623 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 2: here for a million years right now, Again, like there's 624 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 2: been a lot while there has been turnover in that 625 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 2: lead executive, the Mets actually have begun to for the 626 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 2: first time. I mean like there's this consistency this process. 627 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 2: Like Kyleer McDaniel just named this number one farm system 628 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 2: in baseball, which is fucking sick. 629 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: Which remember when this year started, we were both like 630 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: we're not getting enough shine for how good this farm is. 631 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 1: We're like, this is a top ten form system. No doubt. 632 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: Baseball America was hip, of course, shout Matt Eddie shot 633 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: everybody over there. Baseball America was hip, but Pipeline had 634 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: us still in the middle of the pack, towards the 635 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: bottom half. ESPN was behind. It was like, we have data, 636 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: we have numbers, you can see things. This was so 637 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: fucking obvious that we have one of the best farm systems. 638 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 2: It was buster Onney. It was like a year ago. 639 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 2: Oh he went online. He said, the mets have no 640 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 2: pictures in their system, and I don't know how they're 641 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 2: going to build a rotation. 642 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: It's like, you, are you that fucking stupid? Are you 643 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 1: that dense? I mean, we know he. 644 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 2: Is, but I mean does probably come back to the 645 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 2: fact that a lot of those guys they're not in 646 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 2: the weeds like us for individual teams like which is. 647 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: Okay, but like also has to be able to do that. 648 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: I also tell you this, you say that we're blessed, right, 649 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: what else do they do all day? They do the 650 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 1: same job. 651 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 2: You're right, You're right about that, But again it's the 652 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 2: same resources. So much about this is just knowing where 653 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,719 Speaker 2: the look simply that. And it's the same thing as 654 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,959 Speaker 2: what's going out with shopas in Barnes. How well can 655 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 2: you relay the information? How well can you take it 656 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 2: in and then put it back out? Because that's what 657 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,479 Speaker 2: this is, and it's just I don't know. Now I'm 658 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 2: getting like cocky about the pharmacistics. Oh yeah, Jacob Rhymer 659 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 2: is destroying double A. Adrian Ewing is destroying double A. 660 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 2: Jack Weddinger looks like a like a like a piece, 661 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 2: like the whole thing. Ie. 662 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 1: It's getting crazy and like I mean, if you want 663 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 1: to look at one of the other top farm systems 664 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: right now in baseball, it's where David Seartns just came from. 665 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: The Brewers are just pumping out fucking units prospects. It's crazy. 666 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 1: Luis Panya and Jesus Made are like nineteen years old. 667 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: They might be in the majors by next year. 668 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:55,959 Speaker 2: So it's even like the guys who are contributing like 669 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 2: at the major league level came out of nowhere, Guys 670 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 2: like Blake Perkins, Monasterium, Isaac fucking Collins. Isaac Collins was 671 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 2: cut by the Rockies as a minor leaguer. Released by 672 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 2: the Rockies the best player. Yeah, the thirty thirty season. 673 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 2: The miners they were like, fuck it, we're out, Like 674 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 2: what do you so? It's that that's like, at the 675 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 2: end of the day, just having the consistency of the process. 676 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 2: The adults in the room, like we say all the time, 677 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 2: it means so much when you can stack up these 678 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 2: good days, good weeks, good months, and good years on 679 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 2: top of each other. 680 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: Now you can see the machine forming. It's crazy what 681 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: winning will do to my mental process. 682 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 2: And say, imagine, imagine we imagine after that Mariners game 683 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 2: to right now, it's been thirteen days, twelve days. 684 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: It's been like two weeks, basically two weeks, two weeks. 685 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 2: On Friday, twelve days. 686 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's it's pretty It feels good to 687 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,479 Speaker 1: be a Met fan right now again, which is not 688 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: something that we had felt in the minute. No. 689 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 2: And again it's so funny too, like we were so bad, 690 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 2: so bad for two months, so good for two months. 691 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 2: Even last week we blew those horrible games against the. 692 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: Washington Actually we blew a horrible game in this series. 693 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 2: We got we got it back though, got it back. 694 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: Still still know ninth inning, comeback from down down in 695 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 1: the ninth inning, but fuck that. I mean, it's kind 696 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: of it's an insane status. 697 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 2: It is, you know what, at some point you just 698 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 2: you just bluck out a one run game. 699 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,919 Speaker 1: Probably although the games are running out, Mets might not 700 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: do it for an entire season. Regular season. 701 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 2: Make the first one the playoffs. 702 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: You know, you know who. 703 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 2: It's the season added today. You know what, we know 704 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 2: what would happen. 705 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,360 Speaker 1: That's would be in the playoffs we play the Phillies. 706 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 1: We play the Phillies, but we would be in Citizens 707 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: Bank Park. We gotta we gotta get that game in 708 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: city Field because we know flip it. We know that 709 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 1: the article. I don't know who wrote it, James, but 710 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: you were telling me you showed it to me, the 711 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 1: article about the Phillies and how they were in their 712 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: fucking heads. I talked mentally, how we physically beat them down, 713 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: emotionally beat them down. The craziest one is how mentally 714 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: destroyed this Phillies team is when they play, specifically in 715 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: City Field, talking about how they think the Mets have 716 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: this like deep, deep dive into all the little quirks 717 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: that the Phillies pitchers and players could be doing about 718 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: where j t row Mutto sets up in the box. 719 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: It's it's a level of paranoia I've truly never seen 720 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: outside of the Yankees and the Astros, and. 721 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 2: It's it's funny paranoia because it's the same thing that 722 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 2: we talked about with the Braves over the last few years. 723 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 2: That feels like now and they've helped us get over 724 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 2: it because they suck. 725 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: They think you like. 726 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 2: I hope hopefully they can give the Phillies a good 727 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 2: series this week and keep making up some ground. But 728 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 2: it's braves, let's go braves, baby. It's that disbelief of 729 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 2: what's actually happening on the field in front of them. 730 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 2: And you could see it so obviously one in that 731 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 2: playoff series last year. Yes, and we began to feel 732 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 2: that during that amazing four game series Tyler McGill, Yes, 733 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 2: the Tyler McGill Zach Wheeler game, But that was when 734 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 2: it's when the ball hit the fucking bass. 735 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: Remember, it's when the ball hit the base. All of 736 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: a sudden, shit turned our way, and. 737 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 2: The Phillies fans keep talking like the Mets keep looping 738 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 2: their way to the victory. And someone in the met 739 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 2: in the Mets community quote tweet it with a picture 740 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 2: of all the Mets hard hit balls like and that 741 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 2: against Duran, Like, hey man, we were smacking them like. 742 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: That pieced them up. 743 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 2: It's the excuses that are like the fact that, oh, 744 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 2: you guys actually really can't believe this, And then I 745 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 2: don't think there's been a better metaphor image for all 746 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 2: of that. Then your favorite Philly, My favorite Philly. At 747 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 2: this point too, Alec Bohm pointing out to a little 748 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 2: microphone that's been on the center field fence in city Field. 749 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 2: We have potone video edens dating back to I believe 750 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 2: twenty seventeen that's been there, Diana, shout out, Diana and 751 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 2: the Queen of Mets twenteen. Found a double that Alec 752 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 2: Boum hit with that microphone up a few seasons ago 753 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 2: in city Field. But for some reason, even after an 754 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 2: RBI single, all of a sudden, now I can't see 755 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,239 Speaker 2: the baseball. We need a twenty minute lay. My dad 756 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 2: has to leave the game early to go catch the 757 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 2: NJ transit because Alec Bohma has to be a little 758 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 2: whiny bitch. And then all of a sudden they must 759 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 2: go thirteen unanswered runts. 760 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's uh, it's crazy that he did that, because 761 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: I think even Philly fans were like, shut the fuck up, dude. 762 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: Did you see the post the postgame, Phillies. I've been 763 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: watching it all week. NBC Sports Philadelphia does the best 764 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: job in the world. As not a fan of the Phillies, 765 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: and maybe even as a fan of the Phillies, you 766 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: love it. Too, because they live and die with every 767 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: winning loss. Like you you turn on that game, whether 768 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: they win or lose, you have no idea what the 769 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: record is on the season. Like the way that they 770 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: react to losing these games against the Mets. You would 771 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: think that, like the Phillies are in dead last and 772 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: that they haven't won a game in weeks, But that's 773 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: also they haven't won a game in Cityfield in a year, 774 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: in a full calendar year. It's gonna be the last 775 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: time that they won a game in City Field. Like 776 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: hearing Ricky Batalico go off for a good five to 777 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: ten minutes about how Alec Boma is such a baby 778 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: to make that call and how dare he delay the 779 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: game for twenty minutes. It fucked up Christiopher Sanchez too. 780 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: That was one of the underrated things in that as well. 781 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 2: Oh with ice him, it kept him on the bench longer, 782 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 2: and that's that's very annoying, especially an ending that nothing's 783 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 2: really happening, like to have a long ending as a pitcher, 784 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 2: you can kind of get over mentally if you're stilling runs. 785 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 2: I think you got some runs. I'm feeling good right now. 786 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 2: But then he comes back after that twenty minute light 787 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 2: first time, he's the last five runs all season, Like 788 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 2: something happened with that with the Mets where it. 789 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: Was I'll tell you what it is. What James Ciano 790 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: give him the pitching breakdowns. It's it's working, It's fucking working. 791 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 2: I nailed him again too, Christopher Sanchez, swing early, haystlaz 792 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 2: Are the wait, Taiwan Walker. There's gonna be colors in 793 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 2: the other half to the left. He just said on 794 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 2: those and it's also what was the guys gonna say. 795 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 2: I love also always watching these Phillies badcasts. I think 796 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 2: they are good. Like if I'm watching a road game, 797 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,479 Speaker 2: I tune in all the times McCarthy and McCarthy does 798 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 2: a great job, and Crook is their Keith Crook is 799 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 2: Crook is also incredible, and their homers, but their homers, appropriately, 800 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 2: baseball announcers should be homers. There should be a regional 801 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 2: element of baseball. That's how the sport was built, That's 802 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 2: how the sport feels like. I love hearing accents when 803 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 2: I'm watching games of that region, but listening back and 804 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 2: everyone puts on tweather. Shot of the guy allatroll for 805 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 2: putting on our tweather as well listening to them call, 806 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 2: especially the Brandon Nimo walk off single on Tuesday, it's 807 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 2: like one of their cats died. 808 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, a tragedy. 809 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 2: I think he said the nightmare continues for the Phillies 810 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 2: and City Field. So I do think it's like twenty 811 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 2: two out of twenty six the Mets have won in 812 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 2: City Field over the Phillies nine in a row. It's 813 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 2: just they were talking about Nolan McLain in the post 814 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 2: game of a Wednesday's game, like he was Steve Carlton, 815 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 2: like it's absolutely unbelievable to praise their giving. And again, 816 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 2: I think there is a situation with the Phillies of 817 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 2: an Alec Bohm Like, I don't think they love him 818 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 2: anyone there, I don't. 819 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: I don't know who likes Alec Bob truefully. Besides like 820 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: his family, sure. 821 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 2: His mother loves him deep Yeah, but it's just he 822 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 2: kind of plays bad defense. 823 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: He's never ever he botched develops in this series too. 824 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: He couldn't he I shouldn't say he botched the balls, 825 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: but he cannot make a play that's not hit directly 826 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 1: out him and slow. 827 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 2: No, he there was a couple of whell go on 828 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 2: the ground but then the ball like bounced over like 829 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 2: his neck. You're trying to roop it with his glove. 830 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 2: I also told he picked up a glazy one late 831 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 2: in the game and a high game on Tuesday night 832 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 2: after the Harris. We'll get the negative in the second. Guys, 833 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 2: we're still just got to make fun of Fel. There's 834 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 2: only one, now there's three. 835 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: Oh well, yeah, I forgot what we were talking about. 836 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he went after a ball and 837 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 2: just kind of like picked at it with his one hand, 838 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 2: didn't come didn't get behind it, came around it. No 839 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 2: second hand. I was like, that guy gets on base. 840 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 2: It's a different ball game. I couldn't believe the way 841 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 2: he went after a ball. I remember last year in 842 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 2: the playoffs when he got fucking benched for Edmundo Sosa. Yeah, 843 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 2: Munds I think is pretty good ball Player's kind of 844 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 2: be in the glue of this, the infield taking over 845 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 2: Bryce and stot So, so he's playing against lefties for him. 846 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 2: But it's just it's it's beautiful to see how much 847 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 2: they now hate us because this has been a change 848 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 2: from when we grew up, and the fact that it's 849 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 2: so deep. Christopher San just kicked the water cooler, like 850 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,919 Speaker 2: it's so deeply thick. The body language and these guys 851 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 2: at the end of the game on Tuesday was miserable 852 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 2: Jesus Sozarto fucking screaming at Soda for throwing the ball away, and. 853 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 1: The chirp and the up again ejected yeah, like they're 854 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: this team is pressing, and it's it's weird when you 855 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 1: press when you have the lead that they do in 856 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: the division, with how many games you have to play. 857 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,839 Speaker 1: If I'm a Phillies fan, I feel very uncomfortable right now. 858 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 2: Macarthy or was one of the guys in the postgame 859 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:39,280 Speaker 2: show after the Tuesday game, was referencing the tiebreaker and one. 860 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:40,399 Speaker 1: Of the guys, Oh, we got it now. 861 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 2: They're like, why are you talking about a tie breaker? 862 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:43,919 Speaker 2: It's a five game lead. He's like, if you watch 863 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 2: this team play, this team, like, I have no confidence that. 864 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:47,879 Speaker 2: And someone's like, you know, we hit the Malays against 865 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 2: the Mets, but the Mets hit the Malays against everybody else, 866 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,439 Speaker 2: which those are also fighting words. It's just it's it's 867 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 2: and the only guy in this Phillies team that seems 868 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 2: to have the vibes right now, oddly is Harrison Bader, Yeah, 869 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 2: who came from the Mets. It feels like he he 870 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 2: had an amazing series in city field this week and 871 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 2: crush this week. 872 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,399 Speaker 1: I mean he I told you Harrison Baber was gonna 873 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,280 Speaker 1: be a good pick up, like he decent ball player. 874 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: And I mean that throw he made to get lind 875 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 1: Door at second today was like it was also playing 876 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: off the wall. Yeah, he's He's one of the most 877 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,280 Speaker 1: fun defensive outfielders you can truly watch. He Also, he. 878 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 2: Definitely has the biggest hat in the league. I've not 879 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,799 Speaker 2: had not seen him make a catch this series this 880 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,839 Speaker 2: season is I do watch too many Phillies games where 881 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 2: that hat stayed on his head every time he runs 882 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,399 Speaker 2: against the ball and then he goes back, gets the hat, 883 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 2: thing goes to. 884 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: The ducks the funnel. 885 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the whole thing. It's just I'm I don't know. 886 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 2: I'm so pumped by this series. Like every all, I 887 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 2: mean not everything, then three things that are not good happen. 888 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 2: But seeing the by language of these guys, seeing the 889 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 2: way the Mets are playing, seeing the joy, the consistency, 890 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 2: how it is hot, everybody is like it is fucking awesome. 891 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 1: Can I can I just with a little DraftKings player 892 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:48,959 Speaker 1: spotlight real quick? 893 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 2: Sure, throw it up. 894 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 1: Jonah Toong is simply the player spotlight making his debut 895 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 1: on Friday against the Marlins against Ury Press, which is 896 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,919 Speaker 1: also going to be I can't believe we're not gonna 897 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: be at this. Yeah, it's infuriating. Ainst a baseball fan 898 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: watching it on TV. Is also gonna be awesome because 899 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 1: these are two of the best young pitchers in baseball, 900 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,760 Speaker 1: two of the most exciting guys. Urie Presz is a freak. 901 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,320 Speaker 1: But like we said, the player spotlights on Joanahtong making 902 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 1: his debut, and I think, similarly to McLain, I think 903 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,359 Speaker 1: they're gonna let him ride, like see what he's got. 904 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: I don't think there's gonna be any kiddie gloves with 905 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 1: joy Zong. 906 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 2: Oh yea, that's why he's here. And I listened back 907 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 2: to David Searn's press conference from the other day and 908 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 2: they were asking questions about Tongue, like the things that 909 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 2: he's done to be so impressive, and he highlighted a 910 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 2: lot of things that we've been talking about, but one 911 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 2: that we aren't really able to have because we don't 912 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 2: get to watch these minor league games a day in 913 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,360 Speaker 2: and day out. But one thing he said that he 914 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 2: has the fastball, Like that's unbelieving, Like they know for 915 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 2: a fact this fastball should play against major league killers. 916 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 2: Like it's that good, it's that that fast. He locates 917 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 2: it well enough, like everything there. But they talked about 918 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 2: something else that we were talking about, McLain, that we 919 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 2: can see with McLain something I've talked about with you 920 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 2: a few times. Remember I had that low conversation Brince 921 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 2: Shroum for years ago. He said, this was a big thing. 922 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,839 Speaker 2: It's the poise. It's the response in bad situations. It's 923 00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 2: using it's doing different things in the now when you're 924 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,439 Speaker 2: behind count. It's not having bad bi language, just something 925 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 2: that's out of your control. You don't respond to back 926 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 2: calls from the um if a guy makes a bad 927 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 2: play behind you, you shake it off. Like having that 928 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 2: that maturity that the strong mentals sket your mentals right, 929 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 2: gets your chicken right. Marshawn Lynch, it's that's the thing 930 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 2: that especially as a twenty two year old kid who's 931 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,399 Speaker 2: slown through the miners, that could set him apart right away. 932 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm really excited to what he can do to 933 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 1: this Marlins lineup because we talked about how they're missing 934 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,879 Speaker 1: their best left handed hitter and Kyle Stowers. This team 935 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 1: doesn't have Jesus Sanchez anymore. If you're looking at the 936 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,320 Speaker 1: left handed hitters in this lineup that can do damage, 937 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:36,319 Speaker 1: it's not a scary lineup of lefties that Jonah Toan 938 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,720 Speaker 1: would have to face. So he's gonna have a really 939 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 1: good situation to come out and hopefully shove against this 940 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,840 Speaker 1: Marlins team. And similarly to Noel McLean, I'm gonna be 941 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 1: taking the over on whatever the outs are gonna be, 942 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 1: and I'm assuming it's gonna be around fifteen point five. 943 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,839 Speaker 1: So that seems to be the line usually for these 944 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 1: guys making their debut. And if he has anything like 945 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 1: Noel McLean, which he's been better than he was in 946 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 1: the miners, i mean, Jonah Tong should be really sat 947 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 1: in the world on fire. 948 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,359 Speaker 2: Possibly no Jordan tongk different from McClain, didn't have such 949 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 2: a pronounced left you ready split in the minor leagues. 950 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 2: That was the thing with McLain. That's why he had 951 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 2: to get over that hurlle got called up. But he 952 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,840 Speaker 2: has a whip under one against both guys and the 953 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:13,359 Speaker 2: minus this. 954 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 1: Year, and like a whip under one for like for 955 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 1: everything six hundred days straight. 956 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,360 Speaker 2: Like literally, and it's like he's definitely strikes out more radies. 957 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 2: But I think that's just like how well you can 958 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,800 Speaker 2: see the fastball thing, like it is silly. I'm curious 959 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 2: about where DraftKings puts the strikeouts in a debut like this, 960 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:31,839 Speaker 2: Like that's gonna be interesting to me, Like if it's 961 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 2: fifteen and a half outs six and a half, k's 962 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:35,479 Speaker 2: for I got start. 963 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:36,880 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna probably be in that five and 964 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 1: a half range. I think you're gonna play the one 965 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 1: inning and one inning you're rena at two. I think 966 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 1: that's kind of the play from Draftking side five and 967 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 1: a half with juice. Yeah, I'll take it. 968 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, five and half minus one thirty. 969 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's probably where you sit. So I mean, 970 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 1: either of those though, I think are winning bets, and 971 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:55,319 Speaker 1: those would be ones that I'd be picking. 972 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 2: I'm scared that we're selling them too high, but I'm 973 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 2: also not scared from looking at his stuff. 974 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 1: Draftings Player Spotlight, there is Jonah Toong. You knew it 975 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,919 Speaker 1: was going to be him. Download the DraftKings sportsbook app 976 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 1: and use code foul. 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There was some bad 995 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 1: and there was definitely some ugly. Where do you want 996 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:55,399 Speaker 1: to start, James the bat or the ugly. 997 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 2: Let's just start with the ugly. Is w Repper right off? 998 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 1: Ryan Helsley sucks. Yeah, he's really bad. And I don't know, 999 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: like I hate narrative stuff because he still throws one 1000 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 1: hundred and two and the slider is still nasty, it 1001 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,279 Speaker 1: still moves a ton. He just might not be able 1002 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:13,839 Speaker 1: to pitch in New York and I'm really I'm really 1003 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 1: starting to get that feeling. Also, we have to kill 1004 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 1: Hell's bells. We can't keep doing this. 1005 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,799 Speaker 2: I So I've been flipping back and forth on this 1006 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 2: whole healthy thing a lot over the last few days. 1007 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 2: We talked about it because we were at both of 1008 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,240 Speaker 2: these games on Monday and Tuesday when he came into both. Monday, 1009 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 2: I went to the bathroom during his ending. It's like, 1010 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,839 Speaker 2: I don't want to watch this, No, separently, I don't. 1011 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 2: I don't want to be a part of this at all. 1012 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 2: But Tuesday one, I was at these two things the 1013 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 2: same time, completely shocked that Carls Mendoza went to him 1014 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 2: in a two run game because between I know he 1015 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 2: was warming up on Monday when the game was a 1016 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 2: little bit closer, but not this close. And then on 1017 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,319 Speaker 2: Friday we saw him pitching a low leverge spot, so 1018 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:49,880 Speaker 2: I figured that he was going to stick with low 1019 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 2: leverage until he proved himself dragging himself out of it 1020 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 2: the flip side. If this is his entrance, we know 1021 00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 2: how mental relieving is pitching and relief if and we 1022 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 2: know his confidence is already fucking shaken because we saw 1023 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 2: that video of every single guy in the team patting 1024 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,920 Speaker 2: him on the back, congratulating him after he came out 1025 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 2: of the game on Monday. You have to keep his 1026 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 2: confidence up. So if this is his songs that get 1027 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:15,719 Speaker 2: some hype, you gotta do it. And also at the 1028 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 2: same time, I told just the game, I don't have 1029 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 2: any proof of this. I saw a Twitter threat going around. 1030 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,279 Speaker 2: I didn't really see any the proof of them there either. 1031 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:23,839 Speaker 2: I think there's at least a chance he's tipping these pitches. 1032 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 1: Gotta be because like my hypothesis too, is that because 1033 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 1: he only throws the fastball up and the sinker is 1034 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,400 Speaker 1: only down. But how it's binzho career though, Sure, but 1035 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 1: maybe teams are just getting hip to it. Maybe maybe 1036 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,279 Speaker 1: after three years now they're hip. Sure, I don't know. 1037 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,719 Speaker 1: He pitched the NL Central like for most of those 1038 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,880 Speaker 1: years that division had one good team, So like, I 1039 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,839 Speaker 1: don't know, there is something weird, and maybe in big 1040 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,799 Speaker 1: game moments like you mentioned, there could be there could 1041 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,840 Speaker 1: be a tip. There could be you could read the 1042 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 1: ball of his hands easy, like maybe maybe in city 1043 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,759 Speaker 1: field you see the ball better out of his hands 1044 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 1: than when you did when you were in Bush Stadium. 1045 00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,160 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, but my hypothesis is 1046 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 1: that because those two pitches are so drastically different as 1047 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 1: to where he throws them, that you can kind of 1048 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 1: just pick one and he's not throwing the slider for 1049 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,959 Speaker 1: strikes at all unless he happens to hang one, which 1050 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 1: he usually surprises people. So if you see a pitch 1051 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:16,719 Speaker 1: in the bottom of the zone, you could almost just 1052 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 1: spit on it because you're like, chances are that things 1053 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 1: going to be a ball. And it felt like the 1054 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 1: Phillies hitters were just dead red fastball. You're not gonna 1055 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 1: beat with a fastball. 1056 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 2: Very funny that the only guy that he was able 1057 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 2: to get out was Alec Baum on a strikeouts after 1058 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 2: he fell behind two oh. Like in Helsy's career, he 1059 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 2: has put the slider ball spots even this year as well. 1060 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,879 Speaker 2: He's thrown it first strike. He's also thrown in the dirt 1061 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,440 Speaker 2: the swings and misses, and he threw one in that 1062 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 2: inning to Castianos that for a second because it was 1063 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,600 Speaker 2: it was the first pitch of his at bat. Yes, 1064 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 2: right after he struck out Bomb gone back from two 1065 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 2: oh and first pitch he dropped a disgusting slider that 1066 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 2: bounced to cast was like whoa, and I was like, please, please, 1067 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:56,960 Speaker 2: dear Lord, let him be back. But then after that 1068 00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,440 Speaker 2: he missed badly with a few and the fastball is 1069 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,840 Speaker 2: in his zone like in the last two outings to 1070 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 2: find any shred of conference whatsoever. It was still fastballs 1071 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,439 Speaker 2: above the bell, sliders below. So like, if you're able 1072 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 2: to keep those starting in the same spot until the 1073 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,840 Speaker 2: last second, which he was able to do for a moment, 1074 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:11,799 Speaker 2: it's there. 1075 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 1: But he's shot. 1076 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 2: Mentally, Harrison Baither knew exactly what was going to come, 1077 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 2: and he's going to get a fastball middle end, like. 1078 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:20,840 Speaker 1: Everybody in the stadium knew that was going to happen. 1079 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,440 Speaker 2: And he was so ahead and hit that pitch so 1080 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 2: far that Helsy threw him it was with that ball 1081 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,799 Speaker 2: was a moonshot and it really briefly sucked the life 1082 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 2: out of that ballpark. 1083 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:30,319 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was. 1084 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,239 Speaker 2: I was just show yeah, freaking out. 1085 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,640 Speaker 1: I was mad because it's just like a tantrum, don't 1086 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 1: I don't know how many times we can see this 1087 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 1: happen over and over again against the insanity thing. It's like, 1088 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 1: oh my god, And guess what, Ryan Helsley's going to 1089 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,759 Speaker 1: pitch big games in the playoffs, and Ryan Helsley's going 1090 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,719 Speaker 1: to get big outs. I actually have no doubt in it. 1091 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,839 Speaker 1: But right now he's broken. Like Ryan Stanek was unpitchable 1092 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 1: last year, he was horrible. Phil Mayton at one point 1093 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 1: was terrible, and then they got major outs in the 1094 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 1: postseason for us, like they were huge. So in the moment, 1095 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,400 Speaker 1: my like DFA Hill's tweet, like I was, I was 1096 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 1: throwing a tantrum. I was having a meltdown. One hundred percent. 1097 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 1: He can't keep getting away with this. But at the 1098 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,400 Speaker 1: same time, he still throws one hundred and two. He can't, 1099 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,879 Speaker 1: he can't actually suck. He just might suck right now. 1100 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:13,719 Speaker 2: Yes, And that's I think that's the part that we 1101 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 2: all have to take with this and that that's important 1102 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 2: here because just like the lesson we've taken from the 1103 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,920 Speaker 2: hitting over the last few months, you know it's in 1104 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,480 Speaker 2: there somewhere. Yes, you just have to find it. And again, 1105 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:26,920 Speaker 2: like understanding Whomandoes is as a manager, it's a player's manager. 1106 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 2: He knows that to get Hellsley back right's he got 1107 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 2: to keep the confidence up and to keep his confidence 1108 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,319 Speaker 2: back up, you play the stupid fucking song and you 1109 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 2: bring him in the eighth inning, your two run days. 1110 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:36,280 Speaker 1: You can't do Hell's bells anymore. 1111 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,840 Speaker 2: And he was It was again it was. There was 1112 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,319 Speaker 2: a brief moment in that inning when he threw that 1113 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,479 Speaker 2: first lighte to Castiano, for I was like, oh my god. 1114 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,320 Speaker 2: And then maybe it was a pitch calling things he 1115 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 2: threw him. 1116 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,680 Speaker 1: Then he threw him two straight sliders that were both 1117 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:49,799 Speaker 1: close spit on him though. 1118 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,160 Speaker 2: I know. That was where I was like, what's actually 1119 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 2: going on here? Casios also is the kind of guy 1120 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:56,759 Speaker 2: who would pick up something like that and would be 1121 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 2: able to pass that along, you know what I mean? Yeah, 1122 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 2: like I I respect I don't have was the word 1123 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 2: here I'm looking for. 1124 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:03,959 Speaker 1: I do I respect Nicks player? 1125 00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,040 Speaker 2: I do at this point in cast career, he doesn't 1126 00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 2: have that much physically he can offer this team anymore. 1127 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 2: But as a ballplayer, like he is absolutely a cosmic 1128 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 2: professional on the field, like he'd be the guy that 1129 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 2: picks something like that up. And then I was also 1130 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 2: pissed because after that Bay their home run, the third 1131 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,920 Speaker 2: bat at the inning, for some reason, cars he did 1132 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:22,520 Speaker 2: leave him in the game. And yeah, the first pitch 1133 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,799 Speaker 2: against Bryce is dot he threw over the backstop, and 1134 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:26,520 Speaker 2: then he wounded to walking him, and then Edwin comes 1135 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,640 Speaker 2: in and and Bryce Staciel's two basis and you have 1136 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,239 Speaker 2: to be a magician to get out of it. But 1137 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 2: then he is a magician. I don't think we've even 1138 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 2: given him enough credit for how good he's been this season. 1139 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:35,879 Speaker 1: What about if he comes out the Highway to Hell, 1140 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,200 Speaker 1: like we could we get a different Hell song? Hell 1141 00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,480 Speaker 1: Raizer by Ozzy Osbourne, Hell Knight by Pousche Heisty. I 1142 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,279 Speaker 1: doubt he's gonna put on there Hell of a Life 1143 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,680 Speaker 1: Kanye West. I mean, could he just maybe a different 1144 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,760 Speaker 1: Hell song because Hell's bells ain't working. 1145 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:51,880 Speaker 2: I'm down for everything, you know what, Let's see what 1146 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 2: happens is Marlin series but I think road trip will 1147 00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:55,960 Speaker 2: not be the worst thing for Helsi right now. 1148 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 1: Hell yeah, it would be a good one. Rev theory 1149 00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 1: shoutout to the Mountain State. That would be a killer. 1150 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,600 Speaker 2: Walk, a good one and also the beauty of this game. 1151 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,799 Speaker 2: Though on the flip side, we did the same thing 1152 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:07,920 Speaker 2: Joan Duran. We actually did the worst to him. He 1153 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:09,839 Speaker 2: didn't even get it out. Ryan Helsey got it out. 1154 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,040 Speaker 2: Joan Duran got no outs, even forcing goals to lose. 1155 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 1: What was interesting is he threw those splitters early on 1156 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,279 Speaker 1: and nobody touched him, and then it felt like he 1157 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,720 Speaker 1: just went away from it and was like fastball curveball, 1158 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 1: which I don't I don't know why he would do that. 1159 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,560 Speaker 2: I just he also was a little too in the zone. 1160 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,800 Speaker 2: I felt like, I feel like a guy like Duran 1161 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 2: just you could just kind of put that. I mean, 1162 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,480 Speaker 2: I don't know, like we just this was another time 1163 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,000 Speaker 2: where it felt like there was a plan that was. 1164 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:34,880 Speaker 1: Execute Also maybe yeah, I was gonna say tip the 1165 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,760 Speaker 1: cap Mets hitters were better, Like sometimes the hitters are better. 1166 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,279 Speaker 1: That can happen. We saw it with Edwin Diaz for years. 1167 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:41,560 Speaker 1: The hitters could be better. 1168 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 2: And a cool little moment for this Mets team to 1169 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,040 Speaker 2: not let the hell's the implosion, because we know how 1170 00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,359 Speaker 2: many bullpen implosions this team has seen over the past 1171 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,839 Speaker 2: two months. Not let that get in their heads. Pick 1172 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,439 Speaker 2: their guy up. Let the story be a dramatic walk 1173 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,320 Speaker 2: off victory and not Ryan Helsey disaster. That was the 1174 00:46:57,400 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 2: part of the story, no doubt about that. But it's 1175 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,360 Speaker 2: really cool that we got to change that narrative in 1176 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:02,799 Speaker 2: real time. 1177 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,239 Speaker 1: Okay, so now to the bad, right, some more bad? Yeah, 1178 00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:10,280 Speaker 1: Code I Sanga looks bad, cooked, terrible, but silver lining 1179 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,440 Speaker 1: maybe six day maybe six day or six man rotation 1180 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,839 Speaker 1: will really help because right now he is incapable. I'm 1181 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,200 Speaker 1: pitching on normal's rest. 1182 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:21,680 Speaker 2: He kind of always has been. We went into this start, 1183 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,879 Speaker 2: you were not talking that afternoon ting like I don't 1184 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:26,640 Speaker 2: think there's any way Code is going to pitch good, 1185 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 2: and we're like, all right, so for us to win 1186 00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 2: this game, we have to bomb Chris for Sanchez, Like 1187 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,320 Speaker 2: we're not gonna bomb Chris for Sanchez for the stupid 1188 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,400 Speaker 2: we all did, but we did bomb Chris for Sanchez. 1189 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,560 Speaker 2: All worked out, but at least with cod I, there 1190 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,560 Speaker 2: was a moment in this game where he did something 1191 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:41,880 Speaker 2: really relevant to have helped this team, and that was 1192 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,440 Speaker 2: in that fourth inning, he gives up an infield single 1193 00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:46,080 Speaker 2: to Bay there's the eight hitter and a walk to 1194 00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,719 Speaker 2: Bryce's styles nine hither and already down three nothing. The 1195 00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,200 Speaker 2: Phillies had two on, none out and the top of 1196 00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,280 Speaker 2: the other coming up, and he toughed up. He got Turner, 1197 00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,800 Speaker 2: Schwarber Harper one, two three to end that inning. Struck 1198 00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,520 Speaker 2: out Harper with a curt. He threw him this sixty 1199 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,919 Speaker 2: eight mile an hour curveball, sixty four mile our curve. 1200 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,279 Speaker 2: All the first pitch, the whole stadium went whoa. And 1201 00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:06,880 Speaker 2: that was moment you're like, all right, cool, this is 1202 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:08,160 Speaker 2: the Code I pitch ability. 1203 00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,839 Speaker 1: That was Remember the moment that shout out Clay. We're 1204 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:12,720 Speaker 1: sitting together. I said, if code I saying it strikes 1205 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,160 Speaker 1: out Bryce Harper right now, the Mets win this baseball game. 1206 00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:16,319 Speaker 1: Bang nailed it. 1207 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,520 Speaker 2: And the immediately we take the momentum back. Want those 1208 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,480 Speaker 2: singles start the next sending sorry about to race him 1209 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,840 Speaker 2: on double play, then again single double, single, walk, single, 1210 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:26,719 Speaker 2: we take back over. And also like looking back through 1211 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:28,880 Speaker 2: Code I I hate to like try Monday morning to 1212 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 2: quarterback these things, but everyone calls me Monday moning quarterbacks 1213 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 2: from going to do it anyway. Trey Turner triples to 1214 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:34,719 Speaker 2: start the game. Tyron Taylor dope for a ball that 1215 00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:35,560 Speaker 2: was twelve feet away from you. 1216 00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:36,240 Speaker 1: Wasn't even close. 1217 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,680 Speaker 2: He just plays out in a balance. That's that's probably 1218 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,080 Speaker 2: a double, but like you could even hold and tell 1219 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:41,719 Speaker 2: him to a single, and then like that ends up 1220 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,439 Speaker 2: bringing him a run a ground ball, and then Alec 1221 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 2: Bohm hits a dinky ass single to drive into two runs. 1222 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 2: Also before that the classic Alec bom ops field single 1223 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,400 Speaker 2: and the outside fastball you love so much so it 1224 00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,759 Speaker 2: was it's still bad. Like watching CODEI, you can still 1225 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,440 Speaker 2: see that he just looks so predictable with a sequencing 1226 00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:58,560 Speaker 2: his fastball color, and then he tries to do a four. 1227 00:48:58,600 --> 00:48:59,960 Speaker 2: If he gets a head, try to do another four. 1228 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:01,640 Speaker 2: He just can't look at the fastball of the color 1229 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,399 Speaker 2: like it is definitely bad, and it's been bad since 1230 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,680 Speaker 2: he came off the injured list. But he's another guy 1231 00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,160 Speaker 2: similar to Helsley, where if it just snapped in one second, 1232 00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,200 Speaker 2: I wouldn't be shocked either. I can see the light 1233 00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:13,680 Speaker 2: at the end of the tunnel with him, I don't 1234 00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,279 Speaker 2: see it just yet with Helsley until he actually like 1235 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,600 Speaker 2: does anything good for us, because he hasn't really done 1236 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,799 Speaker 2: that yet. Where with Code, I'm like, the ghost fork 1237 00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:22,520 Speaker 2: is still one of the best pitches in baseball. Like 1238 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:26,440 Speaker 2: it seems like it's just like a tighten things up 1239 00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,399 Speaker 2: a little bit. And I don't mean like him tighten 1240 00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,720 Speaker 2: up as a player, but like tighten up the pitch command, 1241 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,400 Speaker 2: tighten up the sequencing, like you mentioned, it's just little 1242 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,200 Speaker 2: tweaks that probably are the difference for a guy like 1243 00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,720 Speaker 2: Code I because right now you mentioned it perfectly. 1244 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,239 Speaker 1: He's not fooling anybody, no, and this. 1245 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,600 Speaker 2: Was the first start. He then fool them a teeny 1246 00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,160 Speaker 2: tiny bit more. The over fifty percent Chase ray on 1247 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,240 Speaker 2: that ghost fork is like one month high for Kaldie, 1248 00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,160 Speaker 2: which again, these are the little things we're trying to 1249 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,520 Speaker 2: watch out for. But also similar to the next guy 1250 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:53,880 Speaker 2: we're going to talk about, Sean and I and it 1251 00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,000 Speaker 2: just feels like a wall gets hit. Yeah, and again 1252 00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:58,719 Speaker 2: like this kind of the opposite we're saying Kardi because 1253 00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,279 Speaker 2: he did toughen up in that fourth, but then even 1254 00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,960 Speaker 2: coming back out for the fifth, like after that seemed 1255 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:05,440 Speaker 2: like he did leaves all out there because then he 1256 00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,160 Speaker 2: has an eight pitch battle real mutol. He hits him 1257 00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,920 Speaker 2: with two strikes and then then Jose Cassio gets a 1258 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:11,719 Speaker 2: double play and all hell winds up breaking loose with 1259 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:12,800 Speaker 2: the microphone center field. 1260 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, which you know, we scored some runs, so we're 1261 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,719 Speaker 1: feeling that one's not that bad. But Shrum and I 1262 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,200 Speaker 1: was also a little bit concerning too, because it's he's 1263 00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,799 Speaker 1: back to barely being a five and dive guy right now. 1264 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,120 Speaker 1: He is so good through the first four and he 1265 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:30,120 Speaker 1: got finished five can't fish it like eight strikeouts fantastic. 1266 00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,840 Speaker 1: He was getting whips like it's it is always so 1267 00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:35,680 Speaker 1: surprising to watch because he does it in such an 1268 00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,040 Speaker 1: unconventional way. It's because he has that weird arm slot. 1269 00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:39,760 Speaker 1: Like we know, I don't want to say the gimmicks, 1270 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,360 Speaker 1: but we know all the reasons why Sean and I 1271 00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,520 Speaker 1: is able to be better than what you'd expect. But 1272 00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:48,280 Speaker 1: the fact that he cannot give any sort of length 1273 00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,960 Speaker 1: and it's continuous, like it's been a month and a 1274 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,200 Speaker 1: half now where he's not getting going any deeper into games. 1275 00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,200 Speaker 1: Maybe is this thing where the Mets just gotta be like, 1276 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,399 Speaker 1: because I told you coming into the game. I was like, four, 1277 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,160 Speaker 1: good in get him out of there, Like I don't 1278 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,040 Speaker 1: I don't need him to push it to the fifth. 1279 00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:08,880 Speaker 1: We have the bullpen, but we keep trying it because 1280 00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,560 Speaker 1: you probably do need it. But I don't know. It's weird. 1281 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,480 Speaker 2: It was. It's the same thing that kind of happens 1282 00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,960 Speaker 2: every time. It's that seventy seventy five pitch mark, and 1283 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,040 Speaker 2: all of a sudden he goes away. Manaia's velocity peaked 1284 00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,040 Speaker 2: in this game and ninety four miles per hour in 1285 00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:22,600 Speaker 2: the third inning, late in the third inning, and then 1286 00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,239 Speaker 2: he just trickled down all the way until the end. 1287 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,080 Speaker 2: He's able to get the tiny spikes. But when he 1288 00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:27,560 Speaker 2: gets the spikes, he gives us some command, He give 1289 00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,560 Speaker 2: us some mechanics to do it. He also had like 1290 00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,000 Speaker 2: a ten mile per hour almost gradient with the sweeper 1291 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,880 Speaker 2: in this game, which is really strange. I know, sometimes 1292 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:36,880 Speaker 2: he gets more movement less movement takes something off that 1293 00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,480 Speaker 2: he's good at manipulating that pitch, especially when he has 1294 00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:40,960 Speaker 2: to throw it against the right of these but it's 1295 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,880 Speaker 2: just it feels like he's so clearly pitching injured and 1296 00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:47,200 Speaker 2: knowing that it's okay to just treat him as a 1297 00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,919 Speaker 2: seventy five pitch guy. Like, I think that maybe there's 1298 00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,439 Speaker 2: not lack of communication happening between him and the team, 1299 00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,040 Speaker 2: because it seems like knowing these things, seeing these things, 1300 00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,120 Speaker 2: if we can see these things, they can see these 1301 00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,040 Speaker 2: teams these things, and at the same time with that 1302 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:00,800 Speaker 2: they know more than us. So maybe there is a 1303 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:02,680 Speaker 2: communication happing at that we're not aware of. But it's 1304 00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,759 Speaker 2: just he came out for that fifth inning and immediately 1305 00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:09,080 Speaker 2: like he's got nothing. Yeah, it comes and goes like that. 1306 00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:09,840 Speaker 1: You could feel it. 1307 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,359 Speaker 2: Everyone knows it. He's not getting any more fastballs above 1308 00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,360 Speaker 2: ninety one. It's just banged there all of a sudden, 1309 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,799 Speaker 2: just hitting him every which way. And then also I 1310 00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:19,360 Speaker 2: thought it was right that they pulled him when he 1311 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,800 Speaker 2: did yes, for to bring in Gregory Solo for Swarburn Harper. 1312 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:24,640 Speaker 1: So that did not get the job done, but that 1313 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:26,480 Speaker 1: was the right process. Yeah, no, I agree. I thought 1314 00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,359 Speaker 1: that was the exact right time to you. So that's 1315 00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,160 Speaker 1: why you got him there. You literally got him for 1316 00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,600 Speaker 1: Schwarber Harper, Like, that's why he is on this team 1317 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,440 Speaker 1: because as much as we love Brooks Raley gregorysau is 1318 00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:37,640 Speaker 1: much tougher at bad against lefties than Brooks. 1319 00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,840 Speaker 2: Raley is going to be absolutely and I know he 1320 00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,080 Speaker 2: walked s Forbur. That was the problem walking Shwarbur going 1321 00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:43,880 Speaker 2: down three against him. You don't want to do that. 1322 00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,120 Speaker 2: Once you're down three zero against coyleege Swarbur and there's 1323 00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,960 Speaker 2: already someone on second base like, I'm fine, which is 1324 00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:53,600 Speaker 2: letting that happen? Put the Harper at that He's buried 1325 00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:55,440 Speaker 2: the sink around his hands, and Harper just nubbed it 1326 00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,160 Speaker 2: out there like just good piece of hitting from a 1327 00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:58,799 Speaker 2: Hall of Famer. It's just you tip the cat. 1328 00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,279 Speaker 1: But that's probably also just like being a teammate and 1329 00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,360 Speaker 1: just knowing Soto a little bit too totally. 1330 00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:04,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know he's gonna come innce me. I just 1331 00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:06,520 Speaker 2: gotta get my hands inside this ball and just literally 1332 00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,359 Speaker 2: try to drop it behind the infielder. That's what he did. 1333 00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,239 Speaker 2: It was great and we still won. 1334 00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. Still one. The one thing I'm gonna say about 1335 00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,279 Speaker 1: Maniya to going back to the four inning thing is 1336 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,320 Speaker 1: that I know there's a lot of negative connotation around 1337 00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,600 Speaker 1: not being able to go five innings, for sure, but 1338 00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:22,719 Speaker 1: if going if pushing to five innings means that you 1339 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:24,520 Speaker 1: give the team less of a chance to win. Then 1340 00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,600 Speaker 1: if you go four, it doesn't matter. You go four, 1341 00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:28,840 Speaker 1: that's the right choice. 1342 00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,319 Speaker 2: And this is now five consecutive starts where he's giving 1343 00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,520 Speaker 2: up runs exactly in the fourth or fifth innings. 1344 00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean basically since Cleveland right at the beginning 1345 00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:38,160 Speaker 1: of the month. 1346 00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,520 Speaker 2: I think was the first one that started the game 1347 00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:41,000 Speaker 2: before that. 1348 00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess Cleveland technically he did go five 1349 00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,080 Speaker 1: to two thirds, so it might be the Milwaukee one then. 1350 00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:47,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, but there was the one. I think maybe the 1351 00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,040 Speaker 2: Cleveland one because that was when we were in the ballpark. 1352 00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:50,480 Speaker 2: I saw Nay nine at points to you, I was like, 1353 00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:50,799 Speaker 2: he's done. 1354 00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:51,400 Speaker 1: It's it. 1355 00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,240 Speaker 2: But also yeah, nineteen swings and misses heye had they strikeouts, 1356 00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,319 Speaker 2: like we see the upside of them. For Nia, that's still there, 1357 00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,719 Speaker 2: but it's just not the stamina of he had last season. 1358 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,360 Speaker 2: And at the end of the day it might just 1359 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:05,000 Speaker 2: be okay, and there's reinforcements coming again. Tongs pitching on Friday, 1360 00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,680 Speaker 2: Tyler McGill's bout through eighty pitches and rehab start. He's 1361 00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,600 Speaker 2: been decimating minor league kiers for that role. He's going 1362 00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:12,799 Speaker 2: to be in Like, that's a lot of volume that 1363 00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:14,560 Speaker 2: you can add to this pitching staff in the spot 1364 00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:15,960 Speaker 2: and you can begin to get creative. 1365 00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,000 Speaker 1: Now. I know Mania has been pitching in the minors 1366 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,360 Speaker 1: before this, but at the major league level, he's pitched 1367 00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,000 Speaker 1: since July thirteenth, right, so it's a little over it's 1368 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,640 Speaker 1: about a month and a half. We'll say, yeah, this 1369 00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:28,279 Speaker 1: is gonna be a weird take that I'm gonna have, 1370 00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,880 Speaker 1: but I'm just just bear with me. It's per training, 1371 00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,040 Speaker 1: spring training, is it? This is spring training? I think 1372 00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,880 Speaker 1: that I listen. I want the training wheels to come 1373 00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:38,680 Speaker 1: off very soon. I would like to see Sean and 1374 00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:40,719 Speaker 1: I go if they can go back to the Shawan 1375 00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:42,799 Speaker 1: and Iya that we know he can be based on 1376 00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,120 Speaker 1: what he is last year. But maybe this is just 1377 00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,880 Speaker 1: all the build up for when the games matter at 1378 00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:49,759 Speaker 1: the end, and we might get a better version of 1379 00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,480 Speaker 1: him maybe at the end of September than we do 1380 00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,680 Speaker 1: right now, because it's just he didn't have spring training. 1381 00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,920 Speaker 1: He did not have it. It's it's an objectable truth, 1382 00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,040 Speaker 1: kind of like we said Blake Snell in the past 1383 00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:04,040 Speaker 1: two not comparing the two as actual quality pitchers, but 1384 00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:07,520 Speaker 1: the process of being that his season was delayed, and 1385 00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:09,480 Speaker 1: it does feel like, I mean, you look at spring 1386 00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,759 Speaker 1: training starts, you get like seventy seventy five by the 1387 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,200 Speaker 1: end of spring training, and then opening day you hope 1388 00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,000 Speaker 1: to get to eighty ninety and then by the mid 1389 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:16,680 Speaker 1: season you're in one. 1390 00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,160 Speaker 2: Hundred level totally. And this also probably is a bit 1391 00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,040 Speaker 2: of a pride thing for Sham and I. Yes, he's 1392 00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,840 Speaker 2: the kind of guy who signs the contract he signed 1393 00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,600 Speaker 2: after the season he had last year, and he's basically 1394 00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,040 Speaker 2: like my main raised no bitch, like I'm here if 1395 00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:30,920 Speaker 2: he's a game, I say, I'm here to give this 1396 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,319 Speaker 2: team innings like he was the innings either last year. 1397 00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:34,919 Speaker 2: They might just don't make the playoffs last year without 1398 00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:36,960 Speaker 2: Shawan and I going deep into every single one of 1399 00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:38,959 Speaker 2: those games after I drink the Master July, like, that's 1400 00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:41,839 Speaker 2: that is who he is. So and there's also kind 1401 00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,359 Speaker 2: of a thing where I'll also say this too, it 1402 00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,520 Speaker 2: took him four months to be able to go seven innings. 1403 00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:49,760 Speaker 1: It might just take him a long fucking time. Maybe 1404 00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:51,120 Speaker 1: that's it. Shawm and I. 1405 00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,520 Speaker 2: Also in the past, he's talked about this himself that 1406 00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:57,440 Speaker 2: he kind of struggles sometimes with taking care of his body, 1407 00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:59,480 Speaker 2: so I could see the layoff like that, especially with 1408 00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:01,560 Speaker 2: all the arms probably had, Like there's a lot of 1409 00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,680 Speaker 2: conflicting factors here. And also this is the thing where 1410 00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,040 Speaker 2: I think a lot of people sometimes think that David 1411 00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:07,919 Speaker 2: Searns is like a full puppet master running this team 1412 00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:09,600 Speaker 2: from the top. Yes, this seems like a clear and 1413 00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:12,439 Speaker 2: obvious situation or Carols from Dosa's making these decisions. Yes, 1414 00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,440 Speaker 2: because it feels like David Stearns would be like four innings, 1415 00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,040 Speaker 2: thank you so much, im out, thank you. 1416 00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,560 Speaker 1: He has no problem doing that. He's done that many times. 1417 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,239 Speaker 2: Pushing Seman and Knife through the fifth inning every single 1418 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,080 Speaker 2: time is the exact same thing, a different moment in 1419 00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:25,479 Speaker 2: the game as Carls from Doza still giving grind Hellsey 1420 00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:27,480 Speaker 2: the eighth inning. That's my guy, That's what I know 1421 00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:29,480 Speaker 2: he wants to do. I want to build his confidence, 1422 00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,480 Speaker 2: like this is the opposite of the Blakes now Kevin Cash, 1423 00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:33,360 Speaker 2: and I think that probably is a part of that. 1424 00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:36,040 Speaker 2: You know what, maybe it's like the Bats, where you 1425 00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:37,560 Speaker 2: got to go through a bunch of this bullshit and 1426 00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:40,440 Speaker 2: once you do good over the hump, there's exponential rewards. 1427 00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:42,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think that's very well said. Anything else 1428 00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:44,520 Speaker 1: to talk about this or I think that's pretty muchure. 1429 00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:44,680 Speaker 3: Right. 1430 00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:46,600 Speaker 2: We did a full hour on the Philly series, and 1431 00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:47,800 Speaker 2: now I feel like we could just do more. We 1432 00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:49,799 Speaker 2: can even do much more, but we gotta move on. 1433 00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,719 Speaker 4: AJM on my phone right now in Arena Club, and 1434 00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,759 Speaker 4: I'm looking at the Emerald slab packs and I see 1435 00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:58,560 Speaker 4: in the grail a Bobby Witt Junior twenty twenty Bowman 1436 00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,799 Speaker 4: Chrome Prospect Auto Gold Refractor card. 1437 00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:04,880 Speaker 2: Give me that, Give me your phone. I'm gonna I'm gonna. 1438 00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,279 Speaker 4: Get you to buy to me. 1439 00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:07,000 Speaker 1: I don't have it. 1440 00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:08,919 Speaker 4: You know you have to get a slab pack. 1441 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:10,879 Speaker 2: No, I don't have that, And give me your slab pack. 1442 00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:11,960 Speaker 4: That card's worth you. 1443 00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,400 Speaker 1: Buy slab pack, Scott, so I can get the Bobby 1444 00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:18,160 Speaker 1: with Junior Gold Refractor twenty twenty Bowman Chrome Auto. 1445 00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:19,200 Speaker 2: Because that sounds. 1446 00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:20,200 Speaker 4: Awesome and it's worth a lot. 1447 00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:22,680 Speaker 2: It's worth a lot. He's a stud, he's not going down. 1448 00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,720 Speaker 2: Get a grill. Get a grill. I want a grils good, 1449 00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:27,479 Speaker 2: give me the holy grill. You do it. 1450 00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,560 Speaker 4: To do that, you must get yourself a slab pack. 1451 00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:32,080 Speaker 4: In Arena Club or if you want to get it 1452 00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:34,000 Speaker 4: for a friend, you can do that too. And right 1453 00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:36,680 Speaker 4: now you can get twenty percent off your first slab 1454 00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,160 Speaker 4: pack or your first card purchase. If you're going on 1455 00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,200 Speaker 4: there and you're just like, hey, I want a specific card. 1456 00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,080 Speaker 4: I find it there, I want to grab it for 1457 00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:47,040 Speaker 4: my showroom Arena club dot Com slash foul and use 1458 00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:48,920 Speaker 4: the code f O U L. 1459 00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:51,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, we gotta move on. We got to preview the 1460 00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:55,400 Speaker 1: Marlins series. I haven't seen them in a minute now. 1461 00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:58,320 Speaker 1: This Marlins team has been better than we expected. Shout 1462 00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,680 Speaker 1: out James. These are James's Marlins. These are my mar 1463 00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,640 Speaker 1: because we know I'm a mega Marlins hater no reason, 1464 00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:07,160 Speaker 1: but this is still the team that we should be 1465 00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,160 Speaker 1: able to beat very simply and easily. 1466 00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,320 Speaker 2: Definitely, this team looks a lot different because of the 1467 00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:14,200 Speaker 2: loss of Kyle Stowers, like you talked about in the 1468 00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,280 Speaker 2: Jonah Tong segment we did like a half hour ago 1469 00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,160 Speaker 2: at this point, but it's more than anything else. This 1470 00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:21,520 Speaker 2: Marlins team is built on the back of what is 1471 00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:23,320 Speaker 2: and I told you the time, this was my take 1472 00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,880 Speaker 2: an objectively very good pitching staff, and we're going to 1473 00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,720 Speaker 2: get three really good pitchers in this series. It's gonna 1474 00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:31,840 Speaker 2: be a really good test for what this met with 1475 00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,840 Speaker 2: this Mets offense is and can be and has shown 1476 00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,600 Speaker 2: of the last few weeks. But for pitching matchups. Four 1477 00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:42,280 Speaker 2: game series Thursday night seven o'clock Clay Holmes versus Adam Maser, 1478 00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:48,720 Speaker 2: Friday Night Bait of an asoff Joonatong, Visieri Perez, Saturday 1479 00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:53,400 Speaker 2: four pm Bit of an Asoff David Peerson versus My guy, 1480 00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:57,800 Speaker 2: Edward Cabrera, and then Sunday one for the coda Sanga 1481 00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:01,480 Speaker 2: first against the newly red high Sandi al Contra. 1482 00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:02,960 Speaker 1: Perfect just in time for him to throw a complete 1483 00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:03,560 Speaker 1: game shot. 1484 00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:05,280 Speaker 2: Out, perfect just in time from no one who traded 1485 00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:05,560 Speaker 2: for him. 1486 00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:09,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't have the high hopes of the pitching 1487 00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:11,960 Speaker 1: staff like you do. But that's why you're gonna tell us. 1488 00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,800 Speaker 1: Why right now, You're gonna tell us right now while 1489 00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:16,800 Speaker 1: they're so good, So give us, give us a little 1490 00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:19,480 Speaker 1: breakdown of what we're gonna see from these pictures. 1491 00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,360 Speaker 2: Adam Maser has h he was part of one of 1492 00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,120 Speaker 2: these trades and mons made last year because he. 1493 00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:28,960 Speaker 1: Always I'm gonna say he was. Oh he was. Tanner 1494 00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,240 Speaker 1: Scott and Brian Hoeing that was it. He was. 1495 00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:33,600 Speaker 2: He was along with Robbie Snelling, who's dominating the minor 1496 00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:34,120 Speaker 2: leagues right now. 1497 00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:35,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, Robbi Snelling's good, But what a what a bizarre 1498 00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:36,960 Speaker 1: trade Looking back. 1499 00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,200 Speaker 2: On that, now he has a funny one. But Tanniscott 1500 00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:40,680 Speaker 2: went a reliever and you got you got Robbi Snelling, 1501 00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:43,560 Speaker 2: who could legitimately be like a two or three starter 1502 00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,240 Speaker 2: for years to come. But Maser has a strike throwing problem. 1503 00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,600 Speaker 2: He is breaking balls, breaking balls, breaking balls, and he 1504 00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:51,520 Speaker 2: just kind of hopes to get ahead of you with them, 1505 00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:52,880 Speaker 2: and then he can sneak in the fast ball in 1506 00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,480 Speaker 2: the sinker. It's a wild arsenal, but it's nothing that 1507 00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,880 Speaker 2: is the most impressive stuff wise. It's a weight. He's 1508 00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,080 Speaker 2: a wait and see pitcher. You wear him out and 1509 01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:02,320 Speaker 2: you get to this modelins bullpen. 1510 01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:06,480 Speaker 1: This is a little interesting background on Adam Maser. First off, 1511 01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:10,400 Speaker 1: middle named McKinley mc k i n n l e E. 1512 01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:14,280 Speaker 1: Never seen McKinley spelled that way. Second funny thing, he's 1513 01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,880 Speaker 1: a Minnesota guy. Always cool to see cold weather state guys. 1514 01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:18,840 Speaker 1: Ohs Iowa make it. And you know where he went 1515 01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:22,400 Speaker 1: before that, South Dakota State. This is like the most 1516 01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:25,560 Speaker 1: one of the most untraditional baseball paths, while also still 1517 01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:28,960 Speaker 1: being at major universities and also actually building a wide 1518 01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:32,200 Speaker 1: repertoire off of like pitching three months a year outdoors. Yeah, 1519 01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:33,200 Speaker 1: that's pretty impressive. 1520 01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:35,200 Speaker 2: That's pretty cool. But the other guys we're gonna see 1521 01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:39,160 Speaker 2: in the series are objectively monsters, like Juri Cabrera al Contra. Agree, Like, 1522 01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:41,800 Speaker 2: if you had to put up every top three nationalgue 1523 01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:43,320 Speaker 2: rotation right now, give me. 1524 01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:45,720 Speaker 1: McClain, give me Tom, give me Peterson. 1525 01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,440 Speaker 2: Those three have a claim, and they all do it 1526 01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:49,439 Speaker 2: in like super different ways. 1527 01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,640 Speaker 1: Also, it's gonna be funny. Oh no, I almost got it. 1528 01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:54,960 Speaker 1: He's been zipping around your. 1529 01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:56,480 Speaker 2: Head and now I gotta find him. I gotta find 1530 01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:00,880 Speaker 2: the big buster miakihead. But again, at some point, Uri 1531 01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:04,000 Speaker 2: Perez is an animal. He already you have one too. 1532 01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:05,080 Speaker 1: I think I did well. 1533 01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,000 Speaker 2: I think I accidentally got it when I clapped just 1534 01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:09,160 Speaker 2: now after an hour the mest of the podcast. He 1535 01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:11,680 Speaker 2: get bugs. He got bugs in the room. Bat remember 1536 01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:13,960 Speaker 2: the bad, Holy shit, the bad that was so funny, 1537 01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:16,600 Speaker 2: The bad live in the podcast couple times kind of. 1538 01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:19,600 Speaker 2: Gary Perez is six foot eight. He's twenty two years old. 1539 01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:21,680 Speaker 1: He's, Oh, it's Tong younger than him. 1540 01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:23,280 Speaker 2: Tom might be the youngest pike pitcher in the league. 1541 01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:26,800 Speaker 2: Now that's funny. But six ft eight, like he's If 1542 01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:28,520 Speaker 2: you had to tell me in five years, tell me 1543 01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:29,960 Speaker 2: who the best pitcher in the league is his A 1544 01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:31,680 Speaker 2: good chance I would tell you it. Jerry Perez. He 1545 01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:35,440 Speaker 2: just the guy sits ninety eight. He's got an explosive fastball. 1546 01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:37,280 Speaker 2: He gets all the way down the mound on you 1547 01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:38,360 Speaker 2: like it's it's a monster. 1548 01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:40,960 Speaker 1: Tom younger, hie, let's go. 1549 01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:42,800 Speaker 2: This might be the first time you're ever started. Gets 1550 01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,880 Speaker 2: the guy youngest name. But Chong also has more extension 1551 01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:47,880 Speaker 2: than your even though he's seven inches shorter, which is 1552 01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:48,320 Speaker 2: really funny. 1553 01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:51,160 Speaker 1: I told Alex about his extension being six foot one. 1554 01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:53,280 Speaker 1: He's like, what's wrong with this guy? How can you 1555 01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:55,960 Speaker 1: do that? I'm like, we don't know, We have no clue. 1556 01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:58,560 Speaker 2: It's a little freak. But Ury, while he's been so 1557 01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:00,560 Speaker 2: dominant this year, like it's the three or four and 1558 01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:02,960 Speaker 2: the nine to eight whip in his first couple, like 1559 01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:04,640 Speaker 2: first half season back off Tommy John. 1560 01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:07,040 Speaker 1: Surgery, Come on, he got it? Did you catch him? 1561 01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:08,000 Speaker 1: Missed him? 1562 01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:08,440 Speaker 2: Ah? 1563 01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:11,920 Speaker 1: Dang got him? 1564 01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:15,600 Speaker 2: No, I missed him kidding, I really thought I. 1565 01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:17,280 Speaker 1: Got People just want to hear about Uri Perez. 1566 01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:20,120 Speaker 2: I know, and I'm just making him wait. It's explosive fastball. 1567 01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:21,400 Speaker 2: But the one thing he's not being able to do 1568 01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:23,360 Speaker 2: in return from Tommy John Surgery is really command the 1569 01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,640 Speaker 2: breaking ball. So strike one will be a really big 1570 01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:27,680 Speaker 2: pitch for Yury. How he sequences versus the Mets. How 1571 01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:30,400 Speaker 2: many fastballs he gets, especially to the lefties right away, 1572 01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:33,800 Speaker 2: it's it's that's how you can get him. He's had 1573 01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:35,720 Speaker 2: some good some bad recently. But that is the way 1574 01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:37,680 Speaker 2: to get Uri Press. If there is a way to 1575 01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:38,800 Speaker 2: get Ury Press. 1576 01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:42,800 Speaker 1: I imagine Keith is gonna be oogling and over Euri Press. 1577 01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:44,600 Speaker 1: Also the ment. 1578 01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:48,080 Speaker 2: We've been some of the staunchest supporters of Edward Cabrera 1579 01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:50,680 Speaker 2: during all the trial and tribulations the last few years. 1580 01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:53,000 Speaker 2: It's been me, it's been Ron, it's been Keith and 1581 01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:55,360 Speaker 2: his Bengary, the only people left in your Edward Cabrera's corner. 1582 01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:57,280 Speaker 2: And now he's finally turned the page and he's just 1583 01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:00,360 Speaker 2: despicably good again. You're gonna see ninety five Malin ever 1584 01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:03,320 Speaker 2: change for Edward cobre In this game. He's insanely good. 1585 01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:05,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll just trust you. I'm not gonna say anything. 1586 01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:07,600 Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean again, he definitely could have 1587 01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:09,080 Speaker 2: a low up start at the command's still bad. He 1588 01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:10,919 Speaker 2: did the cool thing this year, made an adjustment where 1589 01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:13,120 Speaker 2: he was never able to throw any strikes that was 1590 01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:17,560 Speaker 2: problem for whatever. He slowly dropped his arm slot tiny bit, 1591 01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:20,200 Speaker 2: just a few degrees. That helped him get a little 1592 01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:22,240 Speaker 2: bit more drop on his sinker turn into a pitch 1593 01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:25,360 Speaker 2: that's now become his primary pitching his right handed bathers. 1594 01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,640 Speaker 2: Just in general, literally, if Edward Corbrera, the only thing 1595 01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:30,160 Speaker 2: he needed was strike one, because he throws one hundred 1596 01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:32,200 Speaker 2: miles an hour. He has the insane change up. I 1597 01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:34,440 Speaker 2: see him, Come on, you get him? 1598 01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:38,120 Speaker 1: Yep? Now nice, Finally bag got his ass. 1599 01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:41,040 Speaker 2: Let's go. He's got the crazy slider, he's got the 1600 01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:42,960 Speaker 2: crazy change up, the curve ball like, there's so many 1601 01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:45,200 Speaker 2: weapons off of that and just dropping your arm slot 1602 01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:46,880 Speaker 2: teeny tiny bit and a little bit more drop on 1603 01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:48,880 Speaker 2: that sinker has just changed everything for him. He can 1604 01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:49,520 Speaker 2: get strike one. 1605 01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:53,320 Speaker 1: Another thing to note, if Augustine Ramirez catches in this series, 1606 01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:55,600 Speaker 1: the Mets might steal ten bases in one game. 1607 01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:00,000 Speaker 2: You stole my next point, that's my guy. The Marlins 1608 01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,240 Speaker 2: given up twenty five more stolen bases and every team 1609 01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:04,520 Speaker 2: in the league at this point, August Ramirez gives up 1610 01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:06,760 Speaker 2: like one, like one point two stolen bases per start. 1611 01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:09,120 Speaker 2: He while he's been pretty exciting hither he hits the 1612 01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:11,200 Speaker 2: ball crazy hard, he lifted, he pulls it Mark hayshm 1613 01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,760 Speaker 2: because he used to be Yankee. He's a fucking abomination 1614 01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:14,360 Speaker 2: behind the plate. 1615 01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:15,880 Speaker 1: I can't even I don't even get to say my 1616 01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:17,480 Speaker 1: opinions because I don't want to do it right now, 1617 01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:18,680 Speaker 1: but I'll say it after the series. 1618 01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:20,880 Speaker 2: This is major rubber meat to the road because that's 1619 01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:22,400 Speaker 2: the most efficient based stealing team in the league and 1620 01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:24,440 Speaker 2: the Marlins give up by far the most stolen bases 1621 01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:25,160 Speaker 2: and all baseball. 1622 01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:29,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, the rest of this team offensively is weird. Uh Yeah, 1623 01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:32,480 Speaker 1: Jacob Marcy has been light in the world on fire. 1624 01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:34,600 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, I don't know how long it's 1625 01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:38,240 Speaker 1: gonna last because under the hood, the stuff's not that sticky. 1626 01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:39,560 Speaker 1: With how hard he hits the baseball. 1627 01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:42,400 Speaker 2: Oh are you sure about that? He had one oh 1628 01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,160 Speaker 2: seven Max Exavilo, that's the max. I know, but he is, 1629 01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:47,560 Speaker 2: he's right now through. I think it's like twenty games 1630 01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:51,240 Speaker 2: now not also horrendous bat speed. Oh no, the bat speed, 1631 01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:54,160 Speaker 2: it's like the same as Mark Fantos. Yeah, seventy one 1632 01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:54,760 Speaker 2: miles per hour. 1633 01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:56,080 Speaker 1: Bad, it's bad. 1634 01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:58,080 Speaker 2: But he's he's that kind of weird guy where he's 1635 01:04:58,080 --> 01:04:59,760 Speaker 2: got the square up like. I don't think he's going 1636 01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:02,840 Speaker 2: to I think he MAXs out like a fifteen homer guy. 1637 01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:05,480 Speaker 1: Oh sure, sure, sure, yeah, I mean right now he's 1638 01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:07,680 Speaker 1: got eleven hundred ops. That was kind of what we're 1639 01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:08,280 Speaker 1: talking about. 1640 01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:10,280 Speaker 2: But I think he does have the upside to be 1641 01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:13,360 Speaker 2: like a near eight hundred ops guy because it's so 1642 01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:15,520 Speaker 2: much it's so much contact and he's so good to 1643 01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:17,720 Speaker 2: getting the bath head on the ball. He literally never 1644 01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:19,280 Speaker 2: ever chases. 1645 01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:21,120 Speaker 1: But he shrinks out thought. 1646 01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:22,640 Speaker 2: He swings a lot boys boys, A hacker. 1647 01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:25,000 Speaker 1: I mean, he plays a nice center field, there's no 1648 01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:25,640 Speaker 1: doubt about that. 1649 01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,360 Speaker 2: And he's fastest shit. Another cold weather guy too. My 1650 01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:30,280 Speaker 2: boy Central Michigan Chippewa. 1651 01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:33,000 Speaker 1: Eric Wagerman takes war hacks. If you guys want to 1652 01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:35,080 Speaker 1: see someone who's gonna take the hardest swings you'll ever see, 1653 01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:37,680 Speaker 1: He's up there, ery Berto or Hernandez. He was a 1654 01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:41,680 Speaker 1: guy who was fun. What was his original trade, because 1655 01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:45,240 Speaker 1: he was it was was basement Rangers. 1656 01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:45,840 Speaker 2: What was his name? 1657 01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, he got traded for a basabe, so it was 1658 01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:51,240 Speaker 1: it was one before that wasn't it. No, was a 1659 01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:56,200 Speaker 1: slaves basabe to the Rays for Jake Gunther and Nathaniel Low. 1660 01:05:57,160 --> 01:05:59,840 Speaker 2: There was one originally too. I really think another one. 1661 01:05:59,880 --> 01:06:02,200 Speaker 1: I'm looking at it. I'm looking at his transactions. 1662 01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:03,160 Speaker 2: Oh, they word too. 1663 01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:05,240 Speaker 1: No, he came from the Rangers, went to the Raids. 1664 01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:06,680 Speaker 2: It was a fair Banks trader thin because he was 1665 01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:07,360 Speaker 2: range trade too. 1666 01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:09,640 Speaker 1: That went to the Rays and then the Rays had 1667 01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:11,400 Speaker 1: enough of him. So he's an interesting player. What do 1668 01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:14,040 Speaker 1: we got on him? Anything? He's like hitting well, oh 1669 01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:15,000 Speaker 1: he hits the ball hard. 1670 01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:16,960 Speaker 2: But he's a he's a hacker. You could just take 1671 01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:19,880 Speaker 2: war hacks warck sounds like, don't throw him strikes. Yeah, 1672 01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:21,880 Speaker 2: he doesn't chase, but he swings and misses all the time. 1673 01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:24,560 Speaker 1: Anything else weird with this team? Oh they got Joey 1674 01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:27,200 Speaker 1: Wimer up. Oh really, it's cool checking my boy Joey 1675 01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:29,440 Speaker 1: Wimer and Maximo Acosta has been playing a little bit too. 1676 01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:31,200 Speaker 1: I don't know too much about him. 1677 01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:32,960 Speaker 2: I mean, he's if you if you want to look 1678 01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:34,480 Speaker 2: for a Marlins guy, it's just a It's like a 1679 01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:37,520 Speaker 2: five to nine second base beer. So yeah, Hars knowing 1680 01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:41,640 Speaker 2: through two shutdown innings gets the Braves on it. On Wednesday, 1681 01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:45,200 Speaker 2: Xavier Edwards through he's been pretty hot over the second 1682 01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:47,520 Speaker 2: half after a really bad first half. Liam Hicks, the 1683 01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,480 Speaker 2: other catch on the Marlins, also like kind of having 1684 01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:52,760 Speaker 2: a good year. Yeah, rule five guy, he's maintaining a 1685 01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:55,560 Speaker 2: two sixty average and like a league average ops, which 1686 01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:58,280 Speaker 2: is pretty so fantastic. I the Lopez I remember, remember 1687 01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:00,560 Speaker 2: we saw him earli in season. People like is becoming 1688 01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:01,280 Speaker 2: a star? He's not. 1689 01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:02,360 Speaker 1: He's a good ballplayer. 1690 01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:05,880 Speaker 2: Sure, he plays a good he plays a good enough shortstop. Yeah, 1691 01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:10,120 Speaker 2: remember to catch day Meyers made or that Derek Hill. 1692 01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:14,000 Speaker 2: I say, fields man, that serious was the last time 1693 01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:14,640 Speaker 2: we played. 1694 01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:15,640 Speaker 1: I really don't like this question. 1695 01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:18,080 Speaker 2: No, I don't like this one. 1696 01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:19,080 Speaker 1: I pleaded the fifth. 1697 01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:21,920 Speaker 2: Alright, that's fine, fair, fair, But that last time we 1698 01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:23,840 Speaker 2: played this team was like forty one degrees. Give me 1699 01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:24,680 Speaker 2: the sense of how long. 1700 01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:26,120 Speaker 1: It was the last game that we played against him. 1701 01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:28,240 Speaker 1: I was sitting in the Cadillac Club with Wardy Yeah, 1702 01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:31,520 Speaker 1: freezing your ass off, yeah, which was insane. I couldn't 1703 01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:32,040 Speaker 1: believe that. 1704 01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:35,000 Speaker 2: But again, without Kyle Stowers, the lineup definitely lose a lot. 1705 01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:39,280 Speaker 2: But after Adam Maser Perez carbrera a contra, that's that's 1706 01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:41,800 Speaker 2: that's three. Those are three very serious, stunning pictures. Those 1707 01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:44,440 Speaker 2: are three startling pictures where if the Marlins get any 1708 01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:46,840 Speaker 2: luck with some of these guys they're developing or just 1709 01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,400 Speaker 2: a full year of stours and like Marci together possibly 1710 01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:51,840 Speaker 2: like a two three guys in the lineup, they're probably 1711 01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:54,000 Speaker 2: only like two if they could actually keep those guys. 1712 01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:55,960 Speaker 2: Those pictures like probably two years away from actually like 1713 01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:57,920 Speaker 2: relatively competing to Marlin standards. 1714 01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:00,640 Speaker 1: Yea, and I mean get to that bullpen too. Puns hittable, 1715 01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:01,959 Speaker 1: very very hittable. 1716 01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:05,480 Speaker 2: Incredibly hellable. But his time what? 1717 01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:08,280 Speaker 1: Oh no, I misread who this guy was. Okay, I 1718 01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:10,040 Speaker 1: was confused for a second. Who was pitching? 1719 01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:12,360 Speaker 2: I think it's a I think it's time to close 1720 01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:13,720 Speaker 2: it out and the only way we know how to. 1721 01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:16,160 Speaker 1: Oh wait, no, I wasn't lying. I'm sorry. Hold on, 1722 01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:19,000 Speaker 1: Tyler Zuber former met Twitter Ki, Yeah he is, Yeah, 1723 01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:21,200 Speaker 1: does on the Marlins, and also Tyler Phillips if you 1724 01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:24,479 Speaker 1: guys haven't seen the viral clips of him, beats the 1725 01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:26,639 Speaker 1: piss out of himself before he comes onto the field, 1726 01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:29,240 Speaker 1: slashs the shit out of himself. 1727 01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:33,360 Speaker 2: Slaps himself the face like a lot all right. Before 1728 01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:35,280 Speaker 2: we get to the long way to Frankie Peppers, who 1729 01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:37,600 Speaker 2: was once again saved the season with the Bolognes recipe. 1730 01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:39,760 Speaker 2: I want to shout out one listener who sent us 1731 01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:42,519 Speaker 2: a very nice DM on Instagram, Miss Jody. 1732 01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:44,559 Speaker 1: Shout Jody, Shout Out. Jodi. 1733 01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:47,439 Speaker 2: Jody told us I'm a sixty ten year old woman 1734 01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:49,360 Speaker 2: who has been a Mets fan for fifty years. I 1735 01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:51,880 Speaker 2: absolutely love you both. You are so smart and balanced 1736 01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:54,479 Speaker 2: and knowledgeable about the game. You're both obviously educated and 1737 01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:58,160 Speaker 2: good men. I appreciate you. Most of the Mets podcast 1738 01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:02,640 Speaker 2: are a level or two below. Be wet, wow, very nice, 1739 01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:04,439 Speaker 2: good man. That's what I've never been called a good 1740 01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:04,960 Speaker 2: man like that. 1741 01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:07,519 Speaker 1: That's it's a good one from an outside source, usually 1742 01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:09,479 Speaker 1: like your parents. But you're a good man totally. 1743 01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:12,040 Speaker 2: Maybe that's maybe just crush the six to sixty plus division. 1744 01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:14,120 Speaker 1: If you're a sixty plus woman, let us know if 1745 01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:15,240 Speaker 1: we're if we're crushing it. 1746 01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:20,479 Speaker 2: Chill all right now here he is a quick one 1747 01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:24,599 Speaker 2: from our king. The reason for this turnaround Frankie Peppers. 1748 01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:27,200 Speaker 1: Frankie Peppers. This is Frankie Peppers. How you do it? 1749 01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:30,439 Speaker 1: The systems down? The systems are down. 1750 01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:32,680 Speaker 2: Show are the systems of a down show, That's what 1751 01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:32,920 Speaker 2: it is. 1752 01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:35,240 Speaker 1: And the coins just went on and they were really good. 1753 01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:37,960 Speaker 1: Plasta quiet right now the game is, it's in the 1754 01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:40,240 Speaker 1: seventh inning one, fiendos. Just sit there to run home. 1755 01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:43,240 Speaker 1: But thanks for looking up with if we lose, I'm 1756 01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:45,880 Speaker 1: gonna sound like a real moron for this one, but hey, 1757 01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:48,760 Speaker 1: that's okay. I'm here with my friends or role say. 1758 01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:50,320 Speaker 2: Hi, please shut up. 1759 01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:52,200 Speaker 1: Okay. 1760 01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:54,880 Speaker 2: Anyway, boys, hope you had a good episode and I'll 1761 01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:56,920 Speaker 2: talk to you soon because I can't hear anything right now. 1762 01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:01,400 Speaker 1: Let's go last Yeah, I'm we just had a new 1763 01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:03,639 Speaker 1: character to the Frankie Peppers lower. We got Jerome. 1764 01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:06,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jerome's in there, ready to go. And also again, 1765 01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:08,280 Speaker 2: if you guys do wind up making a bolognes this weekend, 1766 01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:10,960 Speaker 2: send it to us. Tag us on Twitter. Get you 1767 01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:13,719 Speaker 2: that retweet from the Mets up Twitter account because these Bolonnes. 1768 01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:14,320 Speaker 2: Keep coming in. 1769 01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:16,760 Speaker 1: This team just keeps saying, it's honestly crazy. You guys 1770 01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:20,559 Speaker 1: are doing that. Trust the sauce Stress, Trust the sauce. 1771 01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:23,559 Speaker 1: Frankie Pepper, shout out him. Shout out the Mets. Let's 1772 01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:26,000 Speaker 1: win the series against the marrow rolling. Shout out Jody, 1773 01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:29,320 Speaker 1: shout the sixty year old women. Let's keep going. Let's 1774 01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:32,080 Speaker 1: keep winning some games. Shout out the Mets. That's it. 1775 01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:34,000 Speaker 1: Thank you as for listening, Thank you for watching. James 1776 01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:35,960 Speaker 1: promised to people an hour long episode. We gave you 1777 01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:39,479 Speaker 1: an hour long episode. Twitter, Instagram, TikTok at mets up. 1778 01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:41,439 Speaker 1: You want to see the YouTube versions, see our Pretty 1779 01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:44,439 Speaker 1: Faces mets Up podcast on YouTube. If you're listening to 1780 01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:47,320 Speaker 1: US Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Drops the Reading, drops his review, 1781 01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:49,760 Speaker 1: download and subscribe. You can follow James on social media 1782 01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:52,439 Speaker 1: at James Hianna and I'm Draftnickmark with a seat. Thank 1783 01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:53,960 Speaker 1: you guys for listening, Thank you for watching. We will 1784 01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:56,800 Speaker 1: catch you all on the next episode after Labor Day. 1785 01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:59,120 Speaker 2: After Labor Day. Good update, and there's a second is 1786 01:10:59,200 --> 01:10:59,800 Speaker 2: key though, there's this. 1787 01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:01,680 Speaker 1: There's a do you have so many bugs in there? 1788 01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:03,320 Speaker 2: I don't know. I got the I got the Wall Unit, 1789 01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:06,240 Speaker 2: you know, but after labor Day, no episode Monday. Tuesday, 1790 01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:08,439 Speaker 2: when everyone's back at work, that's going to be the episode. 1791 01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:09,719 Speaker 2: So that's next episode Tuesday. 1792 01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:11,760 Speaker 1: We'll see you then. Thanks for listening, guys, peace out, 1793 01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:13,040 Speaker 1: peace O. Let's called METS.