WEBVTT - Quendela Tarantina 0:00:03.320 --> 0:00:05.880 She's better known for the things that she does on 0:00:05.960 --> 0:00:09.760 the mattress. Whoa, And then she changed the lyrics to 0:00:10.640 --> 0:00:13.160 he was a moth to the flame. She was holding 0:00:13.240 --> 0:00:14.880 the mattress whoa. 0:00:15.320 --> 0:00:16.160 Oh that's cool. 0:00:16.280 --> 0:00:18.000 Yeah, but I like the slutshame version better. 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:24.720 She's sheen a me, no mate, not my mate? 0:00:25.160 --> 0:00:26.000 Yo yoo? 0:00:26.239 --> 0:00:28.440 No, what is your child? 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:31.960 I am a shocker? 0:00:34.440 --> 0:00:36.479 You know what's going down? Before like. 0:00:38.440 --> 0:00:49.919 Round. I saw this clip on Twitter the other day. 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:53.640 Sorry X no, we're not calling at that, We're going 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:55.520 And it was when Riverdale ended and someone was like, 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:56.840 I'm going to miss the show, and it was a 0:00:56.840 --> 0:00:58.640 clip of one of the moms going up to one 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:00.640 of the other moms and being like, I heard your 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:03.200 daughter was getting slut shamed at school. That's what happens 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:06.960 when sluts get shamed, which I thought was very funny. 0:01:08.000 --> 0:01:10.920 Riverdale is amazing, honestly, I mean just a small just 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:14.920 a small aside. I watched many seasons of Riverdale. I 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:16.840 don't know if the Virgins know this about me. I 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:20.160 became very obsessed. I think up until season four, right 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:26.760 around the time where Archie gets sent to like penitentiary 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:31.319 prison and like plays basketball with all of his prisonmates, 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:32.959 and I think. 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:34.800 That does any gay stuff happen? 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:39.160 Yeah, yeah, I think that the one gay guy on 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:41.480 the show has like is like in a kind of 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:44.280 grinder relationship at this point. And I'm pretty sure. 0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:46.760 No, but no gay stuff happens with Archie in prison. 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:50.440 I don't think. No, not with Archie. No, not with Archie. 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:52.880 Well that's the thing is, like I know, maybe one 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:55.480 of them gets like yeah, I don't know, no, but 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:57.760 Archie's never gay. And when the show ended and I 0:01:57.800 --> 0:01:59.960 haven't been keeping up, it's apparently gone. 0:01:59.840 --> 0:02:04.760 Off off the off, the off the rails, like like 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:11.239 it's now just multiple universes horror fantasy, like everybody fucking everybody. 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:15.120 And in the final episode they revealed that the four 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:20.760 of them Betty Juughhead, Archie and Ica and Camilla Mendez 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:25.400 Ken does are We're in a quad relationship, which is 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:35.320 essentially a poly foursome. And that is so disrespectful, so 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:43.560 disrespectful to goad us with a polyphor way and not 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:49.799 show us Jughead taking it up the bum bum like sorry, 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:52.920 like that is rude. I needed someone. 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:58.680 Yeah, does it make you mad enough to want to 0:02:58.880 --> 0:02:59.519 kill someone? 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:02.240 Yes? Oh yeah, I forgot we're here to talk about 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:05.520 so anyways, once again there's an adderall shortage. 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:08.720 Right, don't worry. I will be your adderall. 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:12.520 Yeah, you'll be my adderall be on adderall. 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:17.359 So we are here today to talk about the two 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:22.960 thousand and three film Kill Bill and sequel kill Bill two, 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:28.639 directed by Quentin Tarantino, starring Uma Thurman, Fox and Lucy Lou. Yes, 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:31.920 we recently. Well, I watched the first movie a couple 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:34.960 weeks ago, and then Fran and I watched part two 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:40.240 last week. And I hadn't seen Kill Bill in over 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:40.760 a decade. 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:41.360 Yeah. 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:45.200 And let me tell you, when these movies came out, 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:47.880 I made them my whole personality. 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:51.720 Yeah. I also I had cousins that were obsessed with them, 0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:54.000 that were like film people, and so I become obsessed 0:03:54.040 --> 0:04:01.080 with them kind of tangentially. Yeah, I I what do 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:03.160 you What did you latch onto about them? Well? 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:06.080 I think the Well, okay, let's be real. First of all, 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:09.560 it's all about kill Bill one. Yeah, all of the 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:17.719 iconic visuals, lines, sequences are all in the first movie, 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:20.960 and the second movie feels like a very long coda 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:23.359 in many ways. There are good moments, but it's all 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:26.839 about the first movie. It's about the yellow jumpsuit. It's 0:04:26.880 --> 0:04:31.360 about the anime scene. It's about it's about a tear 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:37.320 the fucking bitch apart. It's about Nikiya Niki so good. 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:41.039 I love that Vivica a Fox. Let's have us a 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:46.960 knife fight. Yeah, it's about fucking when she cuts the 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:51.520 arm off that bitch. It's about the band in the restaurant. 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:54.560 Oh my god, it's about that the lucy luccene in 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:58.279 the boardroom. Oh yeah, the guy. Now, it's the fucking time. 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:01.800 It's about silly coccade Asian girl likes to play with Samurai. 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:07.080 So yes, okay, So here's the thing. I I feel like, Okay, no, 0:05:07.200 --> 0:05:11.000 Quentin Tarantino, But unfortunately these films are like we're are 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:15.440 like cinematic invention and like totally genius on the format level. 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:16.080 A lot of the time. 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:18.279 He put his whole. 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:20.600 Into that, And like, we hate Quentin Tarantino, but we're 0:05:20.600 --> 0:05:22.080 not going to deny the fact that these are good 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:23.040 fucking films. 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:25.520 Yeah, even all the lingering shots of feet. Yeah, and 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:28.560 I think that wiggle wiggle you're big. 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:31.240 You know that, quin No, not let me not go there. 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:42.320 Oh you know, oh god, he's big, big, Okay. 0:05:42.640 --> 0:05:45.160 I I think it's lovely that the films are called 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:49.360 Volume one and Volume two, because obviously, in American cinema 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:51.839 we treat everything as like a sequel, a sequel, a sequel, 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:54.479 it's a reboot, and it's like no, in actuality, these 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:57.760 two films are one film, and I personally, when I 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:00.520 watch them, like, I view them as one film and 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:05.880 Volume two is a just as you said, like a 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:08.279 denu mat to the rest of the story, and therefore 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:10.120 is kind of boring it. 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:14.359 Honestly, like it makes me wonder should it just have 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:20.640 been edited in order of the kills or But because 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:26.840 the thing is, the end of the first film is perfect, perfect, 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:32.120 and the climax and the ending with Lucy Lou is 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:36.680 the way that first movie should end. But it's not 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:40.080 the end of the story. That's actually that's her first kill. 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:44.120 Yeah, so, well she kills Vivica. 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:47.760 No, I think she's already killed Lucy when she kills 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:48.640 Vivica a fox? 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:50.560 What hold on? 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:53.080 Let me let me pull up I think, so, let 0:06:53.120 --> 0:07:00.520 me pull up her kills kill bill kill list. Yeah, 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:06.000 Oren is shee is number one, So it's Oren Vernita 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:11.880 bud Elle and Bill got it, so that would have Yeah, 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:15.000 you can't start the movies with her killing Oren, because 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:17.760 that is the most exciting part of both films. 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:19.840 These are based on a comic book. 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:23.680 Right, No, no, no, They're based on a character that Quentin 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:29.280 Tarantino and Uma Thurman created together because you know, they 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:32.440 had worked together on pulp fiction. They were great friends, 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:35.840 and they sort of conceptualized this idea of the bride 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:37.840 together and made these movies. 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:41.520 Oh, that's so cool, it's so cool. It's how films 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:43.000 should be made. It makes me so mad at that 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:46.760 Quentin Tarantino is such a piece of shit. But honestly, well, okay, 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:48.160 I don't want to go right into the negative. But 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:50.680 we already talked about how much we love these films. 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:53.520 So well, let's talk more about the why they gripped 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:55.640 us the way. Yeah they did when we were teenagers, 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:59.520 because I don't think I had like we've talked before 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:03.520 about how there were certain movies or pop culture experiences 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:05.840 that I had as a teenager that like opened me 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:08.280 up to a specific side of pop culture, and like, 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:10.920 you know, like I talked about how Garden State was 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:14.760 really my introduction to indie movies and like that kind 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:19.559 of like quieter, character driven story. And I do think 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:23.280 for kill Bill, this was the first time I saw 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:26.640 a film that was like like an outeur film, you know, 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:32.079 like yeah, and also something that was so referential of 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:35.640 an entire genre that I had never experienced before, which is, 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:39.360 you know, like westerns and Mars Samurai movies and revenge 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:42.600 films and martial arts movies. And it was the first 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:48.720 time that I understood that filmmakers like existed in conversation 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:51.520 with the movies that came before them. Yeah. 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:55.360 Yeah. It was also probably the first kind of utter 0:08:55.720 --> 0:09:00.319 film I ever saw, too, And I think that I 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:06.800 felt like I was inspired to be a filmmaker because 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:10.720 of in part Kill Bill, Wow Yeah and kill Bill, 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:14.080 and also like Mulan Bruge, like Baslerman honestly, but like 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:19.520 just like I just remember two maximalists Bosler you know me. 0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:22.440 I love maximalism. And the thing that I think really 0:09:22.480 --> 0:09:25.720 sticks to me about Kill Bill still to this day, 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:28.640 as we just rewatched volume two and you just watch 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:32.720 volume one, is that the visual language of the film 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:37.280 is still so strong it stands on its own. Most 0:09:37.320 --> 0:09:39.640 of it is not derivative of anything. It's just like 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:41.080 fully his art. 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:44.160 Obviously, it's like I mean, it's derivative, but in a 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:49.240 in a way reference full of reverence. Yes, obviously he 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:52.000 has lots of reverence for Westerns and lots of reverence 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:55.600 for these kind of like Eastern like martial arts movies, 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:58.280 which you know, there's a whole other kind of like 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:00.839 nuanced problema to conversation have about that that we're not 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:05.000 going to have here on this podcast. But yeah, I 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:08.559 just like I was so struck by the specificity. And 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:12.600 I you know me, I like movies about revenge. I 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:15.440 like movies about women. I like movies that are violent, 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:19.040 and this has all of all of those things. It 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:23.000 has everything. It has all these hot cunty women killing 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:27.880 each other with swords, with swords with swords. Like there's 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:30.800 so few guns used in this movie, which is something 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:34.480 I really appreciate. Like obviously at the beginning there's a gun, 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:38.040 but like it is so like all of these ideas 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:43.200 about sort of like honor and revenge, and like there's 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:51.480 no there's no morality placed on the bride aka Beatrix 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:55.319 Kiddo for wanting her revenge, Like we we support her 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:57.439 and I do think, said her killing spree. 0:10:57.559 --> 0:10:57.719 Yeah. 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:00.440 This is at a time when there was sort of 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:06.360 a moralistic like view grafted onto mainstream media that we 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:10.160 should be watching good people do like triumph over. 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:13.920 Bad, especially women. Like yeah, oh like if if there's 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:16.679 a woman character, she's not allowed to be bad or 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:18.360 or a killer at all. 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:22.199 Yeah. And I loved that this character was a mother 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:27.800 and was also like the most dangerous assassin in the world. 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:30.439 It's so cool if only she had broken out her 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:36.360 southern drawl that she brings into red wine and royal. Yeah. No, 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:42.360 I really I love these movies. I feel like Go 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:46.960 Go is my gender, Like I feel like I feel 0:11:46.960 --> 0:11:48.199 like there's something about. 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:50.040 The Halloween costume for you go Go Ubari. 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:53.440 It would I just like any sort of hard femme, 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:57.840 Like there's something about the evil femme that I've always 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:00.760 been attracted to, whether it's like Mole the Scent, or 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:04.000 like Beatrix or Lucy Lou. Honestly, like these are I 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:06.800 don't know. I just I'm addicted to stories like that, 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:10.600 and it feels so basic sometimes because now we're seeing 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:15.400 this twenty twenties kind of girl bossification of villains, which 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:17.920 with things like I care a lot, which you very 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:20.320 just you and I very much so disagree about. But 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:22.560 like you know, the girl bossification of villains is like 0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:25.400 a very it's like they're treating it like it's new again. 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:29.560 And Quan Tarantino, Quan Tarantina, what's like doing this a 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:31.760 long time ago? Yeah, and like doing it without I 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:34.840 mean I can't I can't say that I was aware 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:37.640 of the media narrative around it at the time and 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:40.160 like what they talked about, but there's not there doesn't 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:44.520 seem to be any big ideas about feminism in these films. Yeah, 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:50.880 it's really they are the type of violent revenge stories 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:54.160 that had existed for decades, just with women placed in 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:58.000 the lead roles and very little conversation about that. 0:12:58.120 --> 0:12:59.959 Like there were there were not a lot of moments 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:06.000 in these movies where men were like devaluing or second 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:08.679 guessing these women because they were women, like they were 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:12.240 they were killers, yea, And like that was just presented 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:15.040 in sort of a very matter of fact way that 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:20.400 I think was pretty progressive for the time, but like 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:23.760 didn't maybe we didn't try to like pat itself on 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:24.600 the back for it. 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:28.200 Yeah. And yeah, and also just like on top of 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:31.000 the like the effortlessness of it all that you're kind 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:33.400 of describing. On top of that, there's this thing that 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:35.960 I just tend to love in movies. It's the thing 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:40.720 that'll make me remember a movie is when a director 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:47.360 understands how fucking weird they are and they figure out 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:49.480 how to lean into it and that and that like 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:54.120 kill Bill, these are weird movies, like really weird movies 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:56.640 that do things that you are like, wait, what's happening 0:13:56.679 --> 0:13:59.080 sometimes if you're seeing it for the first time. And 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:01.680 that's why, you know, I kind of loved Barbie or 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:03.480 loved like everything everwhere all at once, or like when 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:06.240 these movie when movies like this triumph, I'm always just 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:11.280 like I love that a weird movie got somewhere, because 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:14.640 these days, the only movies that are successful are the 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:18.319 ones that are following formulas like I mean, we're gonna 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:19.960 talk about Marvel again, but you know what I mean. 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:23.400 Like and kill Bill was at the time was unlike 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:25.800 anything that existed, and it. 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:29.400 Was outside of obviously Western movies and like martial arts no, but. 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:31.880 I mean movies that like mainstream films that were getting 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:34.840 not a time and it was a huge hit like 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:38.120 it Kill Bill dominated culture. I didn't even know that, 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:41.200 and it was a huge success that had a thirty 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:44.040 million dollar budget and the it made one hundred and 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:47.040 eighty million dollars at the box office, so it was 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:52.240 a huge hit and it was Tarantino's like biggest hit 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:55.720 at the time. And I just remember like the references 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:59.280 of it were everywhere because the the imagery of it 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:04.520 is so iconic that I think it really permeated culture 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:08.120 at the time, and they were like I was just 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:12.359 obsessed with it, Like I wanted a Samurai sword. 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:14.280 Obviously. 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:17.240 I wanted those like yellow Acex she was wearing. I 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:21.080 actually did recently, but did their only Zuca tigers, and 0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:22.960 I did recently buy a pair of Oh yeah you. 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:26.360 Did, and now I want them to I do feel 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:31.080 like the movie, the Kill Bill movies did move me 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:34.640 to go watch every subsequent Quentin Tarantino film, and I 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:36.720 also watched pulp Fiction, which I thought was a little boring. 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:38.480 I have not seen the most recent one he did 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:40.320 another Western recently that I haven't seen. 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:43.360 Well, I've the only movies of his I've seen are 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:46.720 The Kill Bills, Pulp Fiction, and Once upon a Time 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:49.680 in Hollywood. I've never seen Jackie Brown. I've never seen 0:15:50.160 --> 0:15:51.840 Reservoir Dogs. 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:54.600 I thought he just produced that. I don't remember. 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:57.160 Yeah, I'm not. I can't say that. I'm like a 0:15:57.240 --> 0:16:01.760 huge fan of him, but these movies I am a 0:16:01.760 --> 0:16:04.920 fan of. Has he been canceled in any way? 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:07.280 No? No, I mean not effectively. No. There are a 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:09.840 bunch of women that came forward to talk about the 0:16:09.880 --> 0:16:13.800 ways they were maybe not treated correctly on set. But 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:16.000 I think the fact that like Lupita has been silent, 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:19.520 and that like Margaret Robbie was like weirdly defensive. She's like, no, no, no, 0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:21.640 I love being in movies where I only have five lines. 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:23.640 It's like great, Like this is like so amazing. 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:26.800 It's like, oh yeah, because she said nothing once upon 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:27.160 a time. 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:32.080 Noting anyways, it's infuriating. But no, I don't think he's 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:34.240 been effectively canceled. And it's kind of wild because he 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:37.960 really is a textbook abuser. And if you have seen 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:41.000 literally any any interview with him, or if you've ever 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:43.880 heard Fiona Apple talk about dating him, we all know 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:44.720 he's a bad person. 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:48.040 Yeah, and he also is sorry, horrendously. 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:52.120 Ugly, horrendously ugly can we say that, thank you, but. 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:56.920 You know, he may he put his whole pussy, he 0:16:57.080 --> 0:17:01.480 put his whole terranuzzy into at the very least kill 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:06.720 Bill one, like kill Bill two, Kill Bill two feels 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:10.480 the fact that there's two of them feels a bit masturbatory, 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:14.800 oh and like indulgent. And I do think and I 0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:19.919 even remember as a teenager leaving the second movie, and 0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:23.320 it might have been the first time like as a 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:26.439 like as like consciously as a young adult that I 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:31.359 experienced like the disappointment of thinking that a piece of 0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:34.960 art was bad rather than just like I didn't like it. 0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:37.719 I think I left it being like, oh, that's not 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:42.159 as good as it could have been, and helped me 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:45.119 sort of like in building my like taste when it 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:48.840 came to art. But yeah, I just remember like thinking 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:52.040 it was really like unnecessary. 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:54.439 Yeah, we were talking about it when we were watching it. 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:57.280 And you know, if I'm thinking about the two of 0:17:57.320 --> 0:17:59.560 these movies as one film, which is kind of how 0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:03.399 I see that, I feel like only the last half 0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:05.680 of Volume two was when I was just like, all right, 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:07.879 this is about as good as like the last thirty 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:09.600 minutes of the Lord of the Rings trilogy which I 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:11.560 think is extremely boring and unnecessary. 0:18:11.760 --> 0:18:15.200 The last thirty minutes of Kilbill two is like all talking. Yes, 0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:18.560 it's so allot Beatrix and Bill talking. 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:21.440 And masturbatory is exactly the word. And these are these 0:18:21.440 --> 0:18:23.680 are the parts of the films where I'm just like, Okay, 0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:25.720 this was like during an era of movies where they 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:28.639 let white men do literally anything they want with this script. 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:31.800 And it's like these and then the male characters will 0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:34.200 just talk and talk and talk and talk, and there's 0:18:34.240 --> 0:18:36.679 always just a girl like sitting there like listening for 0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:40.240 like no reason, not saying anything. It's like, okay, Quentin Tarantino, Like, 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:42.000 these are the parts where it's just like we we 0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:44.159 we get it, we get it, we get it. But 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:46.600 I still loved Volume two. Well. 0:18:46.760 --> 0:18:50.600 The fight with Daryl Hannah is the best part of 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:53.320 the movie. And when she snatches her eye out at 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:57.320 the end, Wow, and Daryl Hannah screaming like after she's 0:18:57.359 --> 0:19:02.600 been pluck. Yeah, so good. And what Daryl Hannah is incredible? 0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:08.200 She an icon, She's so hot and I her. I 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:10.320 was obsessed with her boots while we were watching the movie. 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:14.760 And I really need a county pair of black pointy toe. 0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:17.600 You were on essence, Like as soon as those boots, 0:19:17.880 --> 0:19:20.680 I was like, yeah, I was sitting there watching the movie, 0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:26.360 like searching the essenil rest in peace, And. 0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:29.119 I still have not found a good pair of County 0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:34.160 l from kill Bill boots. But you know, I will 0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:42.920 keep looking. Who of all of the people on the 0:19:43.000 --> 0:19:45.040 kill list, on the kill list, who would you most 0:19:45.400 --> 0:19:48.400 want to fight or who would you be the most 0:19:48.400 --> 0:19:49.160 afraid to fight. 0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:51.919 I would be most afraid to fight Lucy Lou. I 0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:57.920 would want to fight Bud. Yeah, he was like I 0:19:58.840 --> 0:20:01.240 thought that when he buried her the in volume two, 0:20:01.359 --> 0:20:03.960 Like I just vividly remember that scene as a child 0:20:03.960 --> 0:20:08.560 in how Like it's very viscerally horrifying. 0:20:08.680 --> 0:20:12.120 Yeah, the sound design is so really scary suffocating. 0:20:12.200 --> 0:20:15.399 Yeah, really scary. And yeah, so him, I think is 0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:18.000 like he has like the most deserved revenge, Like I 0:20:18.000 --> 0:20:20.800 would love to kill also just a man, of course, 0:20:21.240 --> 0:20:21.760 what about you? 0:20:22.520 --> 0:20:24.960 I think I would also be the most scared to 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:29.320 fight o Renihie just because she's sickening and she also 0:20:29.359 --> 0:20:32.040 has the most sort of infrastructure. 0:20:31.320 --> 0:20:34.440 Around her protecting her to kill eighty eight people? Wait, 0:20:34.920 --> 0:20:37.000 is it the crazy eighty eight the crazy idea? You 0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:38.400 have to kill eighty eight people before. 0:20:38.200 --> 0:20:40.399 And then who would I want to fight the most. 0:20:40.800 --> 0:20:44.520 I'm not necessarily saying like who who I think needs 0:20:44.560 --> 0:20:47.080 to die the most? But I would want to fight 0:20:47.920 --> 0:20:51.600 Vernita Green Vic Fox the most because that is like, 0:20:51.640 --> 0:20:54.040 there's a reason why that's the first fight in the movie, 0:20:54.040 --> 0:20:57.040 because it sets the tone so perfectly. 0:20:57.240 --> 0:20:59.280 Yes, and I love And the thing that I love 0:20:59.320 --> 0:21:01.520 about the tone throughout the film is this kind of 0:21:01.600 --> 0:21:07.879 like blistering violence, shock, horror, high sticks and then pause, joke, 0:21:08.200 --> 0:21:11.120 let's talk normal. It's funny that we're talking normal. We're 0:21:11.119 --> 0:21:14.040 actually just average people. We just also kill each other sometimes. 0:21:14.080 --> 0:21:18.200 Like it's so I just love that dissonance and the language. 0:21:19.000 --> 0:21:21.760 Yeah, the language, and like the monologuing, the way that 0:21:21.800 --> 0:21:25.159 people say things is so specific and like, yes, there 0:21:25.160 --> 0:21:28.320 are some very dark stuff that happens that's intercut with 0:21:28.400 --> 0:21:30.640 things that are very funny, like when you find out 0:21:30.680 --> 0:21:33.440 that the nurse of the hospital has been charging men 0:21:33.560 --> 0:21:37.280 to rape for years, but. 0:21:37.240 --> 0:21:40.240 Then the revenge becomes so much sweeter satisfying. 0:21:40.320 --> 0:21:42.880 Well, she when she kills both of them. 0:21:42.800 --> 0:21:44.520 And she's like, your. 0:21:44.480 --> 0:21:48.560 Name's Buck right, and you like to fuck right? And 0:21:48.600 --> 0:21:51.240 then kills him it's so satisfying. 0:21:51.440 --> 0:21:55.399 God it is. I love revenge fantasies. Revenge fantasy should 0:21:55.480 --> 0:21:58.679 be a mainstream genre. That is like busting the summer 0:21:58.760 --> 0:21:59.679 box offices. 0:22:00.520 --> 0:22:03.680 Also, without kill Bill, we would never have gotten the 0:22:03.720 --> 0:22:05.600 pussy Wagon and the telephone music video. 0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:07.919 Oh my god, I forgot. 0:22:07.760 --> 0:22:10.840 And just for that, Tarantino deserves to have his ass. 0:22:10.840 --> 0:22:15.840 Ha no one lick, one lick, one lick, not by me, 0:22:16.080 --> 0:22:16.800 but by someone. 0:22:16.920 --> 0:22:20.359 No, no, no, He's had his ass like plenty of times. 0:22:20.520 --> 0:22:24.080 It's true, I am, but he's never cleaned it. 0:22:24.240 --> 0:22:27.600 He's never cleaned it. No, I mean, Fionda Apple probably 0:22:27.600 --> 0:22:30.879 hasn't eaten his hass. I think she loves herself a 0:22:30.880 --> 0:22:36.880 little too much. Do you think Tarantina Apple has eaten 0:22:37.280 --> 0:22:38.160 Tarantina's ass? 0:22:38.320 --> 0:22:39.919 Unfortunately? Unfortunately? 0:22:39.920 --> 0:22:40.760 I do think. 0:23:05.080 --> 0:23:08.000 If you were on a revenge quest, what would be 0:23:08.040 --> 0:23:09.000 your weapon of choice? 0:23:09.680 --> 0:23:15.480 Well, it's hard to not pick samurai sword. I would 0:23:15.560 --> 0:23:20.320 think maybe two twin swords would be pretty dope. 0:23:20.720 --> 0:23:24.760 Very like I'm playing right now has two swords. I 0:23:24.760 --> 0:23:26.000