WEBVTT - QLS Classic: Lenny Kravitz (Part 1) 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:03.000 Quest Love Suprema contain languages some of our listeners may 0:00:03.000 --> 0:00:11.320 find offensive. Listener discretion is advised. Supremo sub Frema roll 0:00:11.480 --> 0:00:18.640 call sub prima Suprema roll call sub prima sub prima 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:25.320 roll call Suprema Deep Were you Romeo Blue Fans? Yeah, 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:30.240 Dick the scene. Yeah matter. Girl in Toronto named Juliette 0:00:30.280 --> 0:00:39.479 Green Subrema roll call Subrema sub prima roll call. My 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:43.800 name is Fonte and I'm a winner. Check out my 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:57.240 new hairstyle from my man's centner God Suma road call Sugar. Yeah, 0:00:57.400 --> 0:01:02.640 I'm your fantasy. Yeah sure guy, Yeah, I taste so sweet. 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:15.000 Bring my road unpaid Bill, Yeah, so much to do? Yeah, 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:23.520 shout out to Lenny Kravitz. Yeah, my second favorite jew. 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:31.400 There's only one thing on which to focus. Yeah, boss 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:34.319 Bill wants to know. Yeah, why did everybody hate circuits? 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:46.199 Roll car? Road Car? It's like, yes, so fresh, so clean. 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:55.160 Lenny Kravitz is here. Oh yeah, and I'm black velveteen R. 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:02.880 My name is Lenny. Yeah, I just woke up. Yeah, 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:05.920 it's gonna be really hard to get me to spoke 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:27.840 up Roma roll Wait, I gotta say something real quick. Uh, 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:32.240 Ladies and gentlemen, let it just let it be known that, yeah, 0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:39.880 was not dressed like this door Mike Burbiglia. She didn't 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:43.560 have that gold velvet on. No, not for she has 0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:50.280 gold velvet and she gold velvet. Team. I'm going out laterally. Okay, 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:51.639 this is for all my ladies. That was day was 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:54.560 where I was sitting. Okay, there you go. Yeah, girl 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:57.200 was sitting out tonight. Yeah. I was gonna say, they 0:02:57.400 --> 0:03:02.960 got to come out every once and again every it is. 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:12.959 It's atrees l and gentleman, welcome to another episode of course, 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:18.079 Love Supreme. Uh. Actually, you know what I oh our 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:25.120 guest today and apology because I never truly give him 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:30.880 enough credit for his his influence and his artistry, and 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:36.040 I believe that he has truly kept the the concept 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:41.680 of what they once called in the eighties retroneuvo. I 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:47.200 think Nelson George's coin that term retroneuvo slash instant vintage 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:56.440 vibes alive long before the Daptone Empire or the cats 0:03:56.480 --> 0:03:59.320 that La cast from break Astro or you know anyone 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:04.240 that's built empires off of keeping vintage vibes a lot 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:09.040 Mark Rosson yea, yeah, yeah, every everyone you know this 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:13.160 man was first so influential, without no doubt, even at 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:16.440 this day and age, he's probably still the coolest dude 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:19.240 to walk on the planet. Some thirty years after his debut, 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:23.279 UH Let Love Rule UH came into our lives and 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:27.640 we want to welcome thank you, brother Leonard. Wait, what's 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:32.840 your middle names? Albert Leonard Albert Kravit. That's what he 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:39.560 look I got his uncle name that tea Leonard Albert Kravice. 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:43.320 So to to Bill and Steve. Yes, Now do you 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:50.320 feel that the playing fields even, it's like a little 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:56.400 more even? This is a very balanced that's right. You 0:04:56.440 --> 0:05:04.120 know the host is neutual. So I'm just saying your hands, 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:08.000 but I mean I'm neutral. I'm just saying that, you know, 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:12.320 we these two rarely. This is the most words they've 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:20.720 spoken in like twelve combined episode totally. Anyway, n How 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:23.240 how are you doing, Pale? I'm good man. I'm gonna 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:25.320 try and be as professional as possible on that. Like, 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:28.400 I don't know you, So I want to explain my 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:32.560 road call real quick, because that was a mess. First 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:37.680 of all, your your timing was like that that was me. 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:40.120 I feel like you did that on purpose though, no No, 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:42.840 I was trying to sink sugar your song and I 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:47.760 sucked it all up. Okay, so that's that coming in 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:51.440 later and fix that. No, we can't. We can't fix 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:55.040 any road calls. But sorry, Yeah that's bad. So how's 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:58.640 it going, man? It's going really well. Man. I feel 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:04.159 I feel rate creatively. UM, I just had an amazing 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:10.159 time making this record, raised vibration, and I feel like 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:14.760 I'm where I'm supposed to be, which, like you said, 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:20.359 after thirty years, it feels really good too. I feel 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:25.800 like you're still being completely authentic to yourself, and that 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:31.400 you're still excited to make music. UM, having amazing experiences 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:36.200 like like the first ones were, you know. Um, so 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:39.600 you're saying there was a time period in which you 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:41.800 didn't know if you were coming or going or or 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:49.960 well right before making this album, Um, because I've done 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:52.680 so much and I've gone too many places musically, I 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:57.640 really wasn't sure who I was at that moment, what 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:01.159 I had to say, where I was going stylistically with 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:07.479 the music. Um. A lot of people were giving opinions, UM, 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:10.920 which is good about what they thought I should be doing, 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:14.400 and UM, try this, try that work with this one. 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:17.080 Do this. You never worked with the producer, you know, 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:22.520 you always do everything yourself, you know, ah, and and 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:27.920 so and and this whole thing about remaining relevant, which 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:31.600 I learned a lot about because it really doesn't mean anything. 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:36.280 Uh well to me, Um, being relevant is being true 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:40.760 to who you are at any given time. Um, And 0:07:40.800 --> 0:07:42.440 what was I gonna go do? I was gonna go 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:45.360 make a trap record, you know, like not that I 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:46.720 don't dig it, but you know what I'm saying, like 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:50.920 try to be that guy, like okay, let me go, 0:07:51.040 --> 0:08:00.280 let me go be hip, and so you know you could, right, So, Um, 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:05.320 it's weird. So you're saying that that you were met 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:09.080 with quasi indifference about Strut because you played No, I 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:10.840 had not to do it. Strut like that was gone. 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:14.200 It was after that, was after the tour, after the 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:16.160 whole thing, And I knew I was going to make 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:18.000 a record, and I had no idea what I was 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:22.200 going to do. And so after trying this, trying that, 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:25.800 doing this, doing that, listening to everybody writing all these 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:31.200 tunes and that I was trying to write, um they 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:35.000 were okay, um, but I wasn't feeling it like that. 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:39.800 And so I just got really quiet, closed the studio door, 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:44.680 went back to just live an island life, being quiet 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:46.960 and just being out in nature. And I woke up 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:49.920 one morning, like four in the morning with a song 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:53.280 in my head Randy the studio started putting it down, 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:58.160 and the floodgates just opened. You know. I had to 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:00.800 I had I had to wait. I had to wait 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:03.680 to receive what it is that I was being given. 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:11.880 So when you're in your your island and the Bahamas, uh, 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:13.839 is there a pressure like every morning that you wake 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:16.640 up when you're like, Okay, where's my inspiration coming from? 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:22.320 Because usually when people live and beautiful isolated places like that, 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:27.640 usually the purposes is to connect with the land and 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:30.960 receive ideas absolutely and just live. So I'm not on 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:34.040 the schedule. I'm not you know, like I have to 0:09:34.040 --> 0:09:36.440 go in every day or I just wait until I 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:39.240 feel it. And once I feel it, and once these 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:42.319 dreams start and the music starts coming out, then it 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:45.040 just keeps coming and then I'm just in there like 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:50.040 for months, just working. You know. Yeah, So where were 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:53.480 you born? I was born in bed stuy Brooklyn Troop 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:59.679 and Coski Hoscot Troop Avenue three. I used to live. 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:07.360 It was me j Mike Tyson. You know that crew 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:15.079 you were in the Marcy Project, the same neighborhood. Okay, 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:20.040 I see, Um in general, Well, I mean i've I've 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:23.360 I've seen interviews before where just like you know, you 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:26.040 were in two Worlds, Black and well you know, yeah, 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:31.439 album was also called a Black and White World. So, um, 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:34.160 but what was I mean to be a child in 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:42.760 the sixties in Brooklyn? Uh? Was this a well received idea? 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:47.960 Especially you've been before, born before. I don't know what 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:51.280 you're I'm not trying to fish for your age. You 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:54.560 look like twenty years ago because you still you had 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:58.000 the hair style from when you first started. Really, but 0:10:58.040 --> 0:10:59.680 I know there was a six and the third digit 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:01.800 of your birth year. So I'm just trying to figure 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:04.040 out in terms. I mean, I really caught the seventies. 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:06.240 I really caught the early seventies by the time I 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:11.480 was really we're late sixties two. But um, I mean 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:16.400 the first things I was hearing was Jackson five. Okay, 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:21.840 so seventies. So how how what was your childhood like 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:28.079 the Yeah, my mom at the time was doing theater. 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:31.000 She was in a theater company called the Negro Ensemble. 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:36.280 Company and where so many of our great African American 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:41.040 actors and actresses come from. Um, so she was doing that. 0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:45.079 She was a secretary by day at NBC over Rockefeller Plaza. 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:50.040 Oh yeah, I grew up in that building and uh 0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:52.360 yeah she she was a secretary for this guy named 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:56.960 Ed Stanley. I forget what his position was. My dad 0:11:57.080 --> 0:12:00.880 was a producer. He started out as a page became 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:04.439 a producer. They met there. They met at thirty Rock. 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:07.000 They met at thirty Rock. Damn, so you're a thirty 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:10.920 rock baby, Yes, they met. They met at thirty Rock. 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:14.360 Uh did he ever say how how I wanted they 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:20.680 caught her? But that feels disrespectful? Yes, how did he 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:26.160 catch your eyes? He was very much into the arts, 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:31.240 very much into music, very much into jazz. Um Like, 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:34.960 he produced the Paganini show that was on there, and 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:38.559 he was working with all these jazz musicians, hanging around 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:41.920 with Louis Armstrong and all these folks, okay, and going 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:44.120 to the theater. And he was that. He was that cat. 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:49.000 And you know, he was kind of smooth, he was 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:53.160 kind of he has he has some swagger. He was Ukrainian, 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:58.160 you know, Russian jew. Uh Now, Ukraine gets specific. Before 0:12:58.160 --> 0:13:01.120 it was all Russia. Um, and he went after my 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:06.680 mom and they were dating and and uh and uh yeah, 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:10.120 then they got married. Russian Jews don't for their swagger. 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:13.160 Shout out to Russian you know what I'm saying. All 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:20.720 of us are yeah annotations now. And my mom was older, 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:25.000 she was like in her no, but I mean she 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:32.040 was like later thirties and um or late thirties almost. 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:35.120 I remember when they met. Yeah, my mom hadn't been married. 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:39.439 My mom was like she was holding out, so waiting 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:42.160 for a real you know, waiting for a Russian Jew, 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:50.120 right man, get on your mind. And they were. They 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:53.760 were very friendly. You know who Bobby Short is. Yeah, 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:55.640 Bobby Bobby shut you usuld sing at the Cafe car. 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:58.800 I haven't like New York. There you go. That's my ship. 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:02.920 He's he's he's a brother who sang like Rogers and 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:08.840 Heart and in Ellington and Cole Porter and Cafe Society singing. 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:11.520 He wasn't that well, he's probably too young. I'm like, 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:19.000 he sang that, but my father is a child. Oh 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:22.240 that's him. He sang that. Charlie. Yeah. I think it 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:24.880 was Lauren Hutton running around. He was a child, and 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:28.320 she was anyway, they were, they were. They were all 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:32.880 like a crew, and you grew up around Bobby Short. Yeah. 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:37.040 Used to drive Bobby home after the gigs. When I 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:39.760 got older, used to wait because I used to always 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:42.240 go back like when I like when I was a kid. 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:44.480 I was going there since I was five years old. 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:49.480 And then when I got older, you know, I still 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:51.560 went love anytime I was in New York, I went 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:53.840 to see Bobby and I would go to the second 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:56.600 show and I'd drive him home. But anyway, the point 0:14:56.680 --> 0:15:00.480 was where you have I'm sure you have. You have 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:04.400 for the longest I've known you, all of your your life. 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:07.640 Foot notes. Oh, by the way that it's a mind 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:10.040 blowing ship. I'm gonna skip a little bit ahead, but 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:16.760 you're you're Sherman Hemsley. Story of the first time you 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:24.000 smoke weed? Whatever? Yeah, was with Sherman people people, I've 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:26.960 heard stories. You know. He was so different from his character. 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:30.840 Used it had like an acid, I tried to explain. 0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:34.920 He used to drive in He had this silver Cadillac 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:40.120 uh Seville, the box one first, and he had this 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:43.480 this this Mexican brother named Ralph had a big old 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:46.200 Curly Afro used to drive him and that car would 0:15:46.240 --> 0:15:48.280 pull on the lot. All you can see it was 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:51.480 like teaching chong. All you can see was smoke and 0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:56.160 he was either jamming yes or the Grateful Dead Santana 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:02.120 I tried. Okay, So the members of Gentle Giant manage. 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:05.240 All right, which member of Heart is not married to 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:12.080 what's his name from walling Stone Heart? Nancy? You mean, yeah, alright, 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:14.600 so which one Anne is married to? Cameron Crowe? Right, 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:22.560 I believe ye? So yes, So Nancy, her managers are 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:26.240 members of Gentle Giant. And at the time when she 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:31.800 came on the Tonight Show, and uh, she really didn't 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:35.240 know who Gentle Giant was. And so she's just happened 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:37.080 to mention like, yeah, my management, you know, they used 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:38.640 to be a band together. Now they're you know, they're 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:41.040 management and something like that. D're and something some giants 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:44.120 something something gentle or gentle Giants. She said, yeah, what 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:47.880 you heard? Those guys and we lost our collective minds 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:52.600 because we're a lot of us are from the school 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:55.800 with Jay Dilla, and he samples a lot of like 0:16:55.960 --> 0:16:58.840 prog rock and art rock stuff and got us into 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:03.280 all that stuff. So early. Yes, that was Sherman stuff man, right, 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:08.520 And so Sherman used to always play like you know, 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:11.120 like when you listen to the radio on a black sitcom, 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:15.080 you're supposed to like rerun. Used to always dance with Teddy, 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:20.159 what's happening, what's happening? Get up? Get never noticed that. 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:22.639 I never noticed that. Anytime we run dance, it's like 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:28.040 the fake version, the fake version, and just like yeah, 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:31.119 and then the and then a good times. It was 0:17:31.240 --> 0:17:35.400 Jimmy Horne's uh let's do it, listen, let's dance as 0:17:35.560 --> 0:17:40.840 the floor anyway. But Sherman Hemsley, whenever he's jamming, it's 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:47.800 like g it's like something seven nineteen. That was his thing, man. 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:50.240 And you know you always saw him in that VP 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:52.200 suit with the gray hair. You know they put that 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:54.400 gray hair, and he he didn't have gray hair then. 0:17:55.119 --> 0:17:58.920 And he'd be wearing some tattered blue jeans flares with 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:03.520 with the with the yes tidy t shirt and and 0:18:03.760 --> 0:18:05.760 he'd be smoking some good but in that dress from 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:10.080 straight up hippie. And I'm like, you know eleven, and 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:12.320 uh my mom was watching me, like what you're doing 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:19.960 going up in Sherman's room. So yeah, So are you 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:23.920 saying that he was your your hippie shaman or your 0:18:24.920 --> 0:18:28.680 he was he was that cat on the set. You know, 0:18:29.800 --> 0:18:36.280 I'm gonna be just like it's crazy. Yeah, it's azing, alright, 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:42.000 So back to your chos talking about by short. So 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:45.719 my mom said to Bobby side, that's my dad's name, 0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:55.199 side right or Irving? Yeah, middle names, Saul. I mean 0:18:55.200 --> 0:19:01.200 it's as Jewish as it gets. Some more Saul saw Kravitz. 0:19:01.200 --> 0:19:05.119 It was my rabbi's name. And uh, my mom said, sigh, 0:19:05.400 --> 0:19:09.600 asked me to marry him. So Bobby looked at her 0:19:09.600 --> 0:19:11.320 and said, she said, what do you think I should do? 0:19:12.080 --> 0:19:22.040 He said, I don't see nobody else asking nice. But 0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:24.320 well he got a point, and I guess the same thing. 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:26.639 It's kind of crazy because my mom was all that, 0:19:27.920 --> 0:19:32.080 you know. But anyway, they got together and I'm sitting here. 0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:37.480 Was she the fashion queen that she was on TV? Amazing? Yeah? 0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:43.840 She was? She was that lady from the yeah oh yeah. Side. Note, 0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:49.159 this is weird to tell you like three million people. No, no, no, 0:19:49.240 --> 0:19:51.240 I try to tell you last time as a surprise, 0:19:51.400 --> 0:19:58.560 but you gotta have you ever met Apollonia Coterio y no, 0:19:58.720 --> 0:20:01.360 we spoke because she has told you for me. Yeah, 0:20:01.400 --> 0:20:07.240 she had the pictures for me. She toldever, No, she's 0:20:07.280 --> 0:20:09.280 got the pictures. Do you remember the episode when the 0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:15.160 Jefferson shot uh in Hawaii? Yeah, the whole week? Yeah. Yeah, 0:20:15.560 --> 0:20:20.000 So apparently she took like a bunch of polaroids and 0:20:20.119 --> 0:20:24.280 had photo books but left it behind, and uh, Apollonia 0:20:24.359 --> 0:20:27.919 just happened to be scrounging through like, you know, vintage 0:20:27.920 --> 0:20:32.720 stores or whatever, and saw found my mom's pictures but 0:20:32.840 --> 0:20:35.800 in att yeah, at some sort of like five and 0:20:35.880 --> 0:20:39.960 dime thrift store things. So she yo, what any of 0:20:40.040 --> 0:20:43.720 her clothes still around? Not for enohing. I just wonder, Zoe, 0:20:52.200 --> 0:20:54.000 you get that joint tailor you cut it off a half. 0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:56.760 I assume that your mom was like five eleven at least, 0:20:56.840 --> 0:21:00.879 like yeah, yeah, that means it's not okay. There's a 0:21:00.920 --> 0:21:03.080 couple of pieces of it always got like and they 0:21:03.080 --> 0:21:04.959 should be in a museum somewhere, not for nothing too. 0:21:04.960 --> 0:21:06.560 If they can't, f Zoe, they should be a museum. 0:21:07.560 --> 0:21:09.320 They should have be in the Msonian in d City. 0:21:09.600 --> 0:21:13.800 I think we're all everyone's looking everyone's looking at me. 0:21:14.000 --> 0:21:26.000 What I'm sorry? I am a lack anyway, I didn't 0:21:26.000 --> 0:21:30.440 you really think I didn't know Zoe that small? Small too, 0:21:30.480 --> 0:21:33.920 but I let some things out. No, but I mean, dude, 0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:37.560 like trust me. So he used to sleep on his couch. 0:21:38.320 --> 0:21:40.399 I remember that he had a long time in Philly, 0:21:41.240 --> 0:21:44.720 was in band and whatnot. For real, Lenny and Zoe, 0:21:44.800 --> 0:21:47.760 you are single hand? Did we responsible for all of 0:21:47.920 --> 0:21:51.159 the French toast jokes? Y'all got with the oils that 0:21:51.200 --> 0:21:55.120 I know, like coconut oil. For my two years, Zoe 0:21:55.200 --> 0:21:59.280 wouldn't tell me the vanilla oil that she uses. There's 0:21:59.280 --> 0:22:01.920 a vanilla, now, there's a vanilla. But then at your house, 0:22:02.800 --> 0:22:06.720 you know, okay, another tea in my moment, you know, 0:22:06.880 --> 0:22:08.920 like when when you're wait, what do you say? Said 0:22:09.080 --> 0:22:12.560 she smell like you? Because you know she was first okay, 0:22:12.640 --> 0:22:18.280 got it? She wouldn't tell me. I hoped was first vanilla. 0:22:20.440 --> 0:22:25.600 I got serious, and then no, and then uh, she 0:22:25.680 --> 0:22:28.720 would never tell me. And then uh I went to 0:22:29.560 --> 0:22:32.720 that cookout at your spot in Miami and in the 0:22:32.880 --> 0:22:38.359 bathroom I saw the bottle there, that's right, and you 0:22:38.520 --> 0:22:44.960 started using it well, But then but then I went 0:22:45.800 --> 0:22:48.920 this dude smelled like a vanilla cake. I remember, But 0:22:49.040 --> 0:22:52.000 you still you're not spraying yourself with poopo re right, 0:22:52.000 --> 0:22:55.840 because it was alright, but like these little were the 0:22:55.960 --> 0:23:00.320 silver bottles, bottles, they were these little bottles, right, they 0:23:00.400 --> 0:23:04.399 came from France, right exactly. Yeah, but she left it 0:23:04.440 --> 0:23:05.840 there so I took a photo of it and then 0:23:06.000 --> 0:23:11.360 I ordered like forty two gallons of it it at Costco. 0:23:11.480 --> 0:23:16.880 Sack legit mad at me for like Jack and her 0:23:16.960 --> 0:23:20.080 swag like that was her thing, right, Yeah, she got 0:23:20.160 --> 0:23:23.880 mad at me, so she stopped using it. But could 0:23:23.920 --> 0:23:26.520 be girls and all that stuff, like like you know, 0:23:26.600 --> 0:23:28.400 I had a girlfriend in Paris that used to wear 0:23:28.440 --> 0:23:31.240 it and she was a little girl. She she loved 0:23:31.280 --> 0:23:36.080 that oil. That that's where that oil Worksbusters, I'm sorry, 0:23:36.359 --> 0:23:42.879 this is just rock that oil smell good today. Second 0:23:42.880 --> 0:23:45.119 of all, do you have like a favorite smell thing 0:23:45.240 --> 0:23:47.240 or do you just rocking straight? Lenny? I'm just because 0:23:47.240 --> 0:23:49.840 we were talking about smells. I just wanted to yeah 0:23:49.840 --> 0:23:53.880 you personally, yeah, straight, n it's straight, Len a lot 0:23:53.920 --> 0:23:57.920 of a lot of the time saying we're talking about No, 0:23:58.080 --> 0:24:00.320 we were talking about the oils. So anyway, can we 0:24:00.920 --> 0:24:08.439 we went from French toast anyway, man, let me get 0:24:08.480 --> 0:24:12.680 to music. At least. So wait, do you have any 0:24:12.800 --> 0:24:14.760 siblings or you the only child? I have two half 0:24:14.800 --> 0:24:19.919 sisters from my dad's first marriage. Okay, where are they? 0:24:20.680 --> 0:24:32.480 They sing? It's like speed dating tonight. Are they older sisters? Right? Yes? 0:24:32.880 --> 0:24:35.879 Just you need that in your life, older than me, 0:24:37.960 --> 0:24:40.720 older beautiful Jewish women. Okay, I need them in my life. 0:24:44.280 --> 0:24:47.680 So how did you get interested in music? It was 0:24:47.760 --> 0:24:53.399 all around me? I uh okay. First concerts. First concert 0:24:53.440 --> 0:24:57.359 was Jackson five Master Square Garden with the Commodore's opening 0:24:58.000 --> 0:25:00.520 before they were called the Commodore's they had. I remember 0:25:00.560 --> 0:25:02.000 talking to Lionel about it. He's like, we didn't even 0:25:02.000 --> 0:25:03.960 have a name. Then they had some other name. They 0:25:04.000 --> 0:25:07.320 were going under Saw James at the Apollo when I 0:25:07.400 --> 0:25:11.840 was like six, Saw then started going. You know. I 0:25:11.880 --> 0:25:16.680 saw Duke Ellington at the Rainbow Room. Um. I used 0:25:16.680 --> 0:25:19.080 to hang with him because my parents were close with him. 0:25:19.760 --> 0:25:21.879 I remember being at a sound check sitting on his 0:25:22.000 --> 0:25:25.480 lap while he played. It was actually that was my 0:25:26.080 --> 0:25:33.160 fifth birthday, um, because they played Happy Birthday to me. Whoay, 0:25:36.800 --> 0:25:42.920 so Miles, all that stuff, Lionel Hampton, Sara Van, you know, 0:25:43.280 --> 0:25:46.960 going to the opera, going to the ballet, going to 0:25:47.040 --> 0:25:50.240 Shakespeare in the Park, going to off Broadway and you know, 0:25:50.359 --> 0:25:53.280 Black Theater and Broadway. So all this stuff was around me. 0:25:53.359 --> 0:25:55.880 My parents used to take me out with them, which 0:25:55.960 --> 0:25:59.840 was really cool, whenever I could go, whenever they saw fit. 0:26:00.080 --> 0:26:02.639 Took me to parties, they took me to clubs, they 0:26:02.720 --> 0:26:04.480 took me to go see stuff. So I saw these 0:26:04.640 --> 0:26:08.160 people before I was ten years old. I'd seen like everybody, 0:26:09.119 --> 0:26:11.240 one of the few kids allowed in the studio before 0:26:12.000 --> 0:26:18.280 that that I didn't make. I I don't have any 0:26:18.280 --> 0:26:23.080 pictures like with Liza Minnelli. And but were you usually 0:26:23.119 --> 0:26:25.600 the loan child in those situations where there's like maybe 0:26:25.640 --> 0:26:27.200 a couple of other kids and you might see no 0:26:27.880 --> 0:26:37.800 excuse me, So when did you discover that you had 0:26:37.800 --> 0:26:43.600 a voice? Not until well, okay, so when I was eleven, 0:26:43.640 --> 0:26:45.960 when my mom got the Jeffersons, we moved to l 0:26:46.040 --> 0:26:52.640 a And yeah, I'm sorry, the building actually Drummer Trivia, 0:26:53.080 --> 0:26:56.920 the building that's on I forget eighty something in third 0:26:58.440 --> 0:27:01.359 Grady Tate lived in that building. What and he was 0:27:01.400 --> 0:27:03.919 a friend of ours. So before the Jefferson's we used 0:27:03.960 --> 0:27:05.840 to go over. In fact, Grady Tait gave me my 0:27:05.920 --> 0:27:09.280 first drumsticks and drum pad. Yeah, gave me my first 0:27:09.320 --> 0:27:13.240 little Remo drum pad with a little gray rim. Yeah, 0:27:13.440 --> 0:27:15.600 he gave me my first sticks and pad. But he 0:27:15.720 --> 0:27:18.280 used to live in that building that was the Jefferson's building. 0:27:19.240 --> 0:27:22.160 Everyone's like Grady Tate about to say just help help, 0:27:22.200 --> 0:27:29.159 they help the baby. He's noted jazz, you know, God, studio, 0:27:29.359 --> 0:27:32.840 drummer everything. If you remember, see, I'm bringing up stuff, 0:27:35.480 --> 0:27:38.840 remember schoolhouse, frock that stuff. There was a song called 0:27:38.920 --> 0:27:43.560 Naughty Number nine. Naughty Number nine was gratty tap. Yeah, 0:27:43.600 --> 0:27:48.119 he's also yeah got he also sing. I asked questions 0:27:48.160 --> 0:27:50.720 for me, but I also asked for the people because 0:27:50.720 --> 0:27:55.840 I asked the question. I wonder why too, because Mike 0:27:55.880 --> 0:28:03.000 were big Leia didn't you were like twelve hoodies. I 0:28:03.040 --> 0:28:06.800 don't know what you're talking about anyway, so to my voice. 0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:09.520 So we moved to l A, which was a culture 0:28:09.560 --> 0:28:11.720 shock because I was getting ready to go into the 0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:14.400 sixth grade and now I'm in Santa Monica and it's 0:28:14.440 --> 0:28:16.160 like no one on the street, and I'm like, where 0:28:16.160 --> 0:28:19.359 the hell am I Little white kids with blonde hair 0:28:19.400 --> 0:28:23.280 on skateboards going by at it and it was very 0:28:23.320 --> 0:28:25.719 new to me anyway, she wanted to keep me off 0:28:25.760 --> 0:28:27.280 the street because she was going to be very busy 0:28:28.000 --> 0:28:31.760 doing this, doing this show. So there was a boys 0:28:31.840 --> 0:28:35.600 choir that a friend of her son was in called 0:28:35.640 --> 0:28:38.080 the California Boys Choir, and that boys choir at the 0:28:38.120 --> 0:28:41.760 time was the second rated boys choir in the world, 0:28:41.840 --> 0:28:44.360 next to the Vienna Boys Choir. So my mom had 0:28:44.400 --> 0:28:46.880 me audition. She shot, I'll be great, would keep me 0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:49.960 off the street. I learned about music and anyway, I 0:28:50.040 --> 0:28:53.520 ended up auditioning, not really understanding what was going on, 0:28:54.480 --> 0:28:58.080 got in, got trained, and then graduated into the concert 0:28:58.200 --> 0:29:01.200 choir and then ended up but my first concert was 0:29:01.640 --> 0:29:05.680 Hollywood Bowl opening night of the season, Maller third Symphony 0:29:05.840 --> 0:29:10.600 l a Philharmonic Um. I ended up singing on albums 0:29:10.640 --> 0:29:15.360 with zuber Mada and the first record expected my first 0:29:15.360 --> 0:29:19.400