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Speaker 1: wants to know NBA playing smoke, I can't talk about.
Speaker 1: But I've seen like um, like you know, when people
Speaker 1: get hurt, they prescribed like pails and all that ship
Speaker 1: And when like I was just I had had injured
Speaker 1: my um. I was in my knee area earlier and
Speaker 1: I smoked the blunt. I just totally forgot about it,
Speaker 1: like it was just what do you feel about that?
Speaker 1: I think you're right. I mean, they don't care if we,
Speaker 1: you know, get funked up on alcohol and then you know,
Speaker 1: and then that prescription businesses of being down the industry,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I think that's what
Speaker 1: it is. But I mean, knowing that the fifteen years
Speaker 1: in the NBA, and all it took for me was
Speaker 1: a joint. I didn't need none of the other bullshit.
Speaker 1: So I just smoked me and joint at the end
Speaker 1: of the night would be fine. And he stayed on probation.
Speaker 1: He was like the criminal of the NBA. He stayed
Speaker 1: on probation. How was that? Like? How was that? How
Speaker 1: many people? I mean, you just gotta you know, you
Speaker 1: just gotta be I played a long time and learned
Speaker 1: from my vets. You know, you just gotta be able
Speaker 1: maneuver the system. Like I said, I'm not somebody's gonna
Speaker 1: be popping pills and drinking hole cousin. I'm gonna drink
Speaker 1: on occasions, but you know me, I'm a I'm a
Speaker 1: I'm a medicator, you know what I mean. So I
Speaker 1: just you don't found ways to make it work. That
Speaker 1: says you are Gucci down to the socks. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was saying everything you got on, Like, what's going on?
Speaker 1: It's a fetish? Okay. They told me when I when
Speaker 1: your name was brought up, they said, she's run that way?
Speaker 1: Is that the truth? She don't run any she might
Speaker 1: walk out. I'm not. I'm some content. So I mean
Speaker 1: I'm respecting. I'm i gonna say I run like nobody
Speaker 1: really runs l a so but I'm loved. I got
Speaker 1: I got a little pool when you're rady Jack? What
Speaker 1: was what was that from him? Went straightforward? What happened?
Speaker 1: Let's go. So it was an old school concert and
Speaker 1: um for people that don't know, I'm sure nice niece
Speaker 1: for this city. Thank you. So it was like one
Speaker 1: of those concerts like Snoop was there, Warren was there,
Speaker 1: like it was like people from death Row that was in.
Speaker 1: I was like really excited to see him. So we
Speaker 1: were walking in the hallway and he bought me. So
Speaker 1: he was like this you saw me and the spirit
Speaker 1: left my body because I'm like, as you're seeing one
Speaker 1: wish like you're an RB sing you ain't even supposed
Speaker 1: to be. First of all, like you ain't seen no
Speaker 1: hook on none of this ship. Like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like knew each other before. Yeah, so it
Speaker 1: wasn't like he didn't know that was your first No,
Speaker 1: so he just got like, you know, real tough. And
Speaker 1: I guess he thought Whack one hundred was somebody and
Speaker 1: it was gonna do something. And Wax said, you probab
Speaker 1: used to gonna apologize, and Jam you know, was there. Jams,
Speaker 1: you know he was there again, was like, j you
Speaker 1: might need to go and apologize. This is not gonna end. Well. Now,
Speaker 1: the fight between him and Badass had nothing to do
Speaker 1: with him, because I would have got somebody that could
Speaker 1: beat him up to beat up to fight ray J.
Speaker 1: So that had nothing to do with me. After Black
Speaker 1: Tone rectified it and made him I was done so
Speaker 1: Badass and ray J had that beef from back with Sugar.
Speaker 1: You know that's an old DEATHROL ship. Ye. Are you
Speaker 1: involved from this Depthrol thing as well? No, it's not
Speaker 1: gonna put the splain us for like people who don't
Speaker 1: know like explain year involvement. I mean, just really produce,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I saw a vision you
Speaker 1: know probably know I linked up about five years ago.
Speaker 1: I'm been rocking ever since. And first, yeah, yeah, the
Speaker 1: first thing I ever said is man, Sugar is the
Speaker 1: only one that hasn't told his story yet everyone has
Speaker 1: told it. And this is before I knew, you know,
Speaker 1: just before I knew Straight Out of Comptin was even
Speaker 1: coming out. I'm just like, you know, no one's heart
Speaker 1: from Sugar, no, no one's hold from child. I just
Speaker 1: kept turning, you know ingraining that in her head. And
Speaker 1: then you know, Straight Out of Complict came mount and
Speaker 1: Tupac came out, and all these other movies came out,
Speaker 1: and just like you know, Sugar was the mastermind, really,
Speaker 1: you know, behind this whole death Row movement and his
Speaker 1: story with you know, it's compelling and still going on
Speaker 1: and you're raised it born from California, Y, Sacramento, and
Speaker 1: since I was seventeen t c l A. So I
Speaker 1: just you know, I grew up around you know, California music.
Speaker 1: My whole I'm silt went through the Tupart you know,
Speaker 1: you'll got to you next. It was I don't know,
Speaker 1: I had mixed feelings. You know, obviously I still even
Speaker 1: watching me, I got chills in some parts. And we're
Speaker 1: still excited to see but look like him. But to me,
Speaker 1: I just wanted to know some you know, more about
Speaker 1: what I didn't know, you know, another day and I
Speaker 1: still perfect. Overall, I liked it. I said, like I
Speaker 1: wanted to get more information that I didn't already know
Speaker 1: about it, you know what I mean. But it was
Speaker 1: a cool project. Now what is this death row thing?
Speaker 1: Is this going through stars? Is that just in the procest? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So I looked up with to the creative producers of
Speaker 1: Stars Um and he loved the pitch, loved the project
Speaker 1: so where he said, it's gonna be the next week.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a serious like not like a power type,
Speaker 1: so we'll be able to really you know. And then
Speaker 1: I explained to her because she gets into feelings sometimes
Speaker 1: when she hears stuff about Sugar, it's always bad, and
Speaker 1: I try to tell her like, unless you have a
Speaker 1: larger platform, you have to tell people what they are,
Speaker 1: you know, basically, like Sugar is known for being the
Speaker 1: larger than life Doug or whatever, whether whate episode of maybe.
Speaker 1: So you know my idea when I pitched, you know,
Speaker 1: I was trying to talk to her about was, you know,
Speaker 1: if we do a series that we can go into
Speaker 1: every character and develop the character and show with the
Speaker 1: good bad and every good size you know, everybody. I
Speaker 1: thought of that. I thought of that up with me
Speaker 1: and that to do it with that roll, that's you
Speaker 1: know what made me think of it was I'm a
Speaker 1: big Norcos fan and it's funked up as football was
Speaker 1: and blowing up buildings and killing kids. They didn't had
Speaker 1: enough time to tell you humanizing the form even at
Speaker 1: some point. And I think you know she wasn't killing
Speaker 1: like that in the fense. But if you're able to
Speaker 1: develop this whole story, you'll be able to tell the
Speaker 1: good winto bad. Right, And you're right because they got
Speaker 1: even I think she is even in the baby like
Speaker 1: you're right? Like is there ever gonna be a night movie?
Speaker 1: Does that make more sense? Like as opposed to like
Speaker 1: death because you know, really can't tell the death rail
Speaker 1: story in two hours and based on a lot. Okay,
Speaker 1: the people's truths that they told in their movie. Is
Speaker 1: that where you felt about the two parts because people
Speaker 1: told their truths like that, that was their truth. Michelle
Speaker 1: had her truth. Um this Eli Hutton then only knew
Speaker 1: two pop from seventy five days he had his truth.
Speaker 1: You know, I felt like John. I felt like John
Speaker 1: Singleton should have kept that. You know, John talked about it,
Speaker 1: talked Pocket. You can't talk to John Singleton without John
Speaker 1: even crying. Like if you say something about Pocket, John
Speaker 1: gets emotional and so like he was like, you know,
Speaker 1: I think else he did it for the wrong reason.
Speaker 1: I don't feel like Elt did it to glorified pop.
Speaker 1: I just felt like, you know, they did a biggie movie.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do a pop movie, Like what do you
Speaker 1: know about pop? Besides the ship that you googled? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You could google that and I
Speaker 1: could have did that on l time. So you was
Speaker 1: really serious when you said he really didn't know like that,
Speaker 1: because I mean about I mean everybody. You know, that's
Speaker 1: what when you know what people doing, you know, and
Speaker 1: they put you in heaven and you know you're getting
Speaker 1: where people going to hell, but they're like, oh, he's
Speaker 1: up in heaven. Look at you know he So it
Speaker 1: was like ready, It's just like how you go through
Speaker 1: a bad persons. Mutable got him good God, you're looking
Speaker 1: down looking um. So I'm just saying, like, you know,
Speaker 1: when a person dies you can't verified. So I can say, like,
Speaker 1: you know, like my grandm I'm gonna use my grandmother,
Speaker 1: my grandmother, so I can tell you a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of stories about my grandmother. She's not here to say
Speaker 1: if it was true or not. That's how I feel
Speaker 1: about the super Mom. That's how I felt. And I
Speaker 1: felt like everybody does something and they always say, you know,
Speaker 1: focus on the negative for shild but they don't remember,
Speaker 1: like there's certain people like I remember Shell was paying people.
Speaker 1: People with mothers was losing their houses and she would
Speaker 1: paid their houses off. You know, it's very interested to me, right,
Speaker 1: it's just the most interesting thing about like the children.
Speaker 1: And I hear other people talk about child it's always
Speaker 1: dazz in corrus because dads, I think that it doesn't
Speaker 1: like always just something amazing about sil and it's like crazy,
Speaker 1: like but remember who was the who was the strongest
Speaker 1: person in the in the dog town. It was corrupt
Speaker 1: and corrupt Carrie dads through the whole fucking you know,
Speaker 1: so you know you don't like what I'm saying you
Speaker 1: and one of them doesn't. That's to me, I felt like,
Speaker 1: you know, like you know, master p only gay silks choker,
Speaker 1: reckon dear because that was his brother. He knows. Still
Speaker 1: couldn't wrap it, I felt, So I felt like she
Speaker 1: couldn't have a shot. So still like you know, because
Speaker 1: Dad's was Snoop's cousin. They was like, come on, Dad's
Speaker 1: you know, That's how I felt. And then so niggas
Speaker 1: was working with their feelings like these hosses for everybody.
Speaker 1: So you're mad at Ship because he was sucking a
Speaker 1: bit shook. Ship would get in your head if you
Speaker 1: let him, you know, So you gotta you can't, like,
Speaker 1: don't look them straight in the eyes and don't feed
Speaker 1: him at the midnight because the motherfucker's don't get you.
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm personally do to you what you
Speaker 1: allow them. So that's the whole thing with Should. So
Speaker 1: people can say Should get a lot of Ship, but
Speaker 1: he made a lot of motherfucker's rich. He well, actually,
Speaker 1: when you think about it, the way death Row was
Speaker 1: was structure for a black company. Hip hop. Own company
Speaker 1: was one of the most brilliant things. They were some
Speaker 1: of some of the most records ever, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, And they will never have another era like that.
Speaker 1: So he has to be. He has to. He's remember,
Speaker 1: we can't die. You gotta think in the time span
Speaker 1: two is only two years, maybe it seemed like it
Speaker 1: was a ten year process. That the amount of projects,
Speaker 1: and you know, everybody on death Row had something out,
Speaker 1: like they weren't shelfing people like like Baby assigned people
Speaker 1: and have them sitting on the shelf, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: paying the people. But I can't. But well, each artist
Speaker 1: had a project. Whether it blew up, everybody was working.
Speaker 1: And I like the fact that he got people local
Speaker 1: people because she knows everybody like him and Mary Jake
Speaker 1: Blige are good friends. Like. But he got duel to
Speaker 1: single on Tupac ship. He got you know what late
Speaker 1: he could have went out, but everybody it was an
Speaker 1: in house thing. He didn't go outside to grab anybody
Speaker 1: if it was somebody outside like you know, of course,
Speaker 1: you know from you know, his whole Oakland roots. He
Speaker 1: reached out to Richie rich He reached out to you
Speaker 1: know the you know, you know, you know, the people
Speaker 1: the people that did the old eyes on me. So
Speaker 1: that's something about Should that like I admire because he
Speaker 1: took care and I think Should took care of too
Speaker 1: many people, and he got himself into got itself in deep.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because you only you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like, you know how niggas get richingly,
Speaker 1: you know, you buy homies. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But I just felt like he that's that was his
Speaker 1: whole downfall, just not leaving the hood, just not you know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: sometimes you gotta you gotta out grow the hood. Like
Speaker 1: I don't care how how much you want to keep
Speaker 1: it real, the certain dogs, you gotta walk in by softly,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, no matter how much you
Speaker 1: want to hold the homie down or whatever. But what
Speaker 1: was your what was your favorite team you played for
Speaker 1: ear to the two thousand seven Warriors the first time
Speaker 1: the we be League team, so that was yeah, the
Speaker 1: boy was the Warriors. Yeah, I mean the Lakers are
Speaker 1: my favorite team all time, still my favorite team. I
Speaker 1: love when I was there, you know, Kobe and then,
Speaker 1: but the favorite team I played on was definitely that
Speaker 1: Warrior team. Do you think, um, I'm surprised you said
Speaker 1: the Wards, But do you think the NBA is too
Speaker 1: so off? Like remember like I mean that and now
Speaker 1: I was getting suspended for I got before I retired,
Speaker 1: I was getting suspended two games for pushing people. You know, pushing.
Speaker 1: That's our cutting out of rap, that's a game suspension.
Speaker 1: The back of the day used to really be scrapping it.
Speaker 1: It would just be like hockey, so down for a
Speaker 1: second and then you know, come back in the game.
Speaker 1: But it's different. But I understand where the NBA is
Speaker 1: trying to go. The obviously trying to clean out their
Speaker 1: image and they want to people score a lot of points,
Speaker 1: you know me, So that takes away from the defense
Speaker 1: and the physicality of the game. So you just gotta
Speaker 1: adapt and get left behind. And you know, I'm glad
Speaker 1: that you know, I had my run. When I had it,
Speaker 1: I wish it could have been a little bit more physical.
Speaker 1: I girl watching you know, the Pistons and the Lakers
Speaker 1: and the Boston Celtics and the Bulls back in the eighties.
Speaker 1: You know, that's what I wanted. You know, I was
Speaker 1: hoping it wouldn't be like when I got there. But
Speaker 1: it was cool, white lasting. But it's definitely a lot
Speaker 1: softer now. But like I said, I understand what they're
Speaker 1: trying to take the league. So who was the person
Speaker 1: that you played against and you was like you never
Speaker 1: wanted to play against him, like it was hard. It
Speaker 1: wasn't that I never wanted to play against because I
Speaker 1: always wanted to play the best because I was the
Speaker 1: one every night that I had to guard the best player.
Speaker 1: So I was carl Lebron, Kobe, k d you know whoever. Mellow.
Speaker 1: You know you would like the renegade. Yeah, I love
Speaker 1: that part. So I wasn't that when I didn't want
Speaker 1: to play against Like the better you were, the more
Speaker 1: I wanted to play against you. But I would probably
Speaker 1: say the coldest dude I played was definitely Kobe Monster
Speaker 1: Kobe Kobe. Okay, and did you played what's Kobe too?
Speaker 1: Women against him? So you're saying you're picking up Wow,
Speaker 1: that's that's It's a different beast now now. Like I
Speaker 1: heard something like about Tom Brady, like how he trained
Speaker 1: with his people as Kobe like that, I mean, I
Speaker 1: want to I think I he does a misconception of
Speaker 1: him because if he doesn't sunk with you, he's not
Speaker 1: really gonna fuck with you. But if he opens up,
Speaker 1: he's cool, you know what I mean. There was several
Speaker 1: times where I wan drive out to Orange County, you know,
Speaker 1: for the night and work out with him. The next
Speaker 1: day we hit the track, get the weight room, workout,
Speaker 1: you know. So when he and him, he and I
Speaker 1: definitely minded. But um as far as other people, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure. I know. Now he's kind of mentoring some
Speaker 1: of the younger guys, which I like seeing because I mean,
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Speaker 1: you ever been on a team where you hated your teammate?
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Speaker 1: I've been on teams, are going to teams where I
Speaker 1: thought I didn't like somebody, but when I got a
Speaker 1: chance to meet him, it was really cool. Like I
Speaker 1: did tours when people I hate it, Like I'm not
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Speaker 1: how is that? How is that coup mind to be
Speaker 1: like when you because you guys are like six what
Speaker 1: is it six team players on on the basketball team?
Speaker 1: You guys just you guys just meet each other and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, you guys gonna hit eight
Speaker 1: states states? How do how do the chemistry is? You
Speaker 1: gotta remember old men is naturally like outfit the best
Speaker 1: of the best, So how does that work? I think
Speaker 1: what the chemistry is most important, and when you know,
Speaker 1: when you're able to play with a bunch of great
Speaker 1: players and keep the eagles aside, that's when you have
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Speaker 1: you know somebody is easy to go to jail with
Speaker 1: them or you're going on tour with them, and then
Speaker 1: you will know exactly who that person is. Definitely. I
Speaker 1: mean obviously that you know there's people you may mess
Speaker 1: with more than others, But I can't really say that
Speaker 1: there's people you just completely dislike on team you I've
Speaker 1: never been on the team like that, asked me if
Speaker 1: he ever played off a team I didn't like. Let's go. Yeah, okay, y'all,
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Speaker 1: burn it up. But okay, now what who's talking about.
Speaker 1: I don't like players that have the Kobe arrogance, but
Speaker 1: not the Kobe game. And that's how he is, like
Speaker 1: you would think he was like really Kobe, and I'm like, brot,
Speaker 1: come on now, you just on the team because your
Speaker 1: daddy is the keep that same. So I didn't like it.
Speaker 1: I didn't like Austin. I did. Matt loves everyone. You know,
Speaker 1: you know, I know, I know the business. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean something, whether you know you really funk
Speaker 1: with someone or not. At the end of the day,
Speaker 1: you're trying to win the championship, so you want to
Speaker 1: you know, you want to make sure you know. I mean,
Speaker 1: I was the first person came up to all said
Speaker 1: and TONI you know, l A is a little different,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, It's more than just basketball.
Speaker 1: You need me being you know how that you know
Speaker 1: I mean, so That's why I look at things and
Speaker 1: I may not be a best friend to hang out
Speaker 1: off the court, but I funk with all of my teammates.
Speaker 1: So what is the best era in basketball? What was
Speaker 1: the best era? Like Celtics, Laker, well when you was
Speaker 1: involved or not, whatever, whatever you think is the best
Speaker 1: era in basket man? Probably uh, late eighties, nineties? Um,
Speaker 1: what we talked, and there was a lot, I mean
Speaker 1: obviously you know, yeah jack Um, you know the Knicks
Speaker 1: back then. I like your dreams back then, the nineties two, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the first Dream Team. I mean, that was a great
Speaker 1: time of basketball, a lot of amazing Hall of famers,
Speaker 1: and they really got to play physical bass compar want
Speaker 1: no fight football type ship out there. So that's what
Speaker 1: I grew up watching and loved and wish that the
Speaker 1: NBA could have stayed that way just a little longer. Okay,
Speaker 1: what's the best I read hip hop night the nineties,
Speaker 1: There's no question. Okay. And then when you say the nineties,
Speaker 1: you're talking death for I know, I'm talking about music
Speaker 1: the whole decade and West Coast everywhere in between, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, because it was real music, It wasn't you
Speaker 1: couldn't get away, but putting out no bullshit, you could
Speaker 1: get away and put anybody to put the album out
Speaker 1: to the song, it's horrible and it's disappointing, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I think music would be a whole
Speaker 1: lot different if Pocket Biggie were still around, because I
Speaker 1: think you would have to they have to hop bar
Speaker 1: so high, and I don't know, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: you know, those two come to mind that at most,
Speaker 1: but a lot of bullshit sis in the crack these
Speaker 1: days because ian one because of social media, but too
Speaker 1: it's just because there's no run really hold the motherfucker's accountable.
Speaker 1: Like when you think about a Pocket Biggie was twenty
Speaker 1: four years old, baby, they would really be they just
Speaker 1: because they're be in like forties nine just becoming somebody
Speaker 1: telling me, um they were like nine or something with
Speaker 1: popped down. I was like, fus, I was, I missed that.
Speaker 1: Do you ever get mad when you see like these
Speaker 1: younger generation people, she doesn't mad at everything, don't really
Speaker 1: respect like the O G s. They didn't respect, like
Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, right, I heard
Speaker 1: you say earlier, you said you forty right, right, So
Speaker 1: like even if we didn't even respect our elders, we
Speaker 1: didn't let them know that like we we we would,
Speaker 1: we would. We were like, I ain't whatever, But when
Speaker 1: they around, we were showing them respect. We're doing this.
Speaker 1: This is nowadays, this generation, they don't give a about
Speaker 1: what came. I'm glad you asked me that. I'm gonna say.
Speaker 1: There's this a particular person that I'm just gonna say
Speaker 1: his name Wack with Honey. I feel like the way
Speaker 1: that he disrespects legends is like it's just told. It's
Speaker 1: just disrespectful, like you said, like we grew up like
Speaker 1: you know, we respected our elders. And then for him
Speaker 1: to get on it, he said some things about Pock
Speaker 1: and Pocks. Mother, bro, you never a new Pop. You
Speaker 1: came around with Death Throw when Sugar was getting out
Speaker 1: of jail and trying to pick up the pieces. You
Speaker 1: never met Pop, so you can never say that. You know.
Speaker 1: It's just as a person as you know, however you
Speaker 1: feel about you know, Pock, you know, like even like
Speaker 1: like I wasn't I didn't listen to East Coast Rapper
Speaker 1: when we were being with bad Boy. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That was so bid We couldn't listen to
Speaker 1: that like a sneak and listen to hypnotize. You understand
Speaker 1: what I'm saying first for him too. Everywhere goes someone
Speaker 1: has love, you know what, flat Flex, But everybody else
Speaker 1: like you, they always I'm saying, you're gonna say something
Speaker 1: Poppa's dope, b was dope like we love Biggie out here,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, We and they love Pocket
Speaker 1: New York. So far him to get on here and
Speaker 1: need to say that Poc was this and for you
Speaker 1: not to even know this man and then speak ill
Speaker 1: of this man he said, then bring his innocent mother
Speaker 1: into it. That's disrespectful. Then he gets on and then
Speaker 1: he disrespects both luck and harmony. You cannot say anything
Speaker 1: away from ball thug. If they smoked a mountain of
Speaker 1: slaughtered a mountain of cocaine a fucking day, that's not
Speaker 1: your who. Why are you judging these people that they
Speaker 1: actually are legends? You know, bo still sell out shows,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And you're just on social media,
Speaker 1: you know, being like disrespectful for and I just I
Speaker 1: just hate the whole disrespect behind people nowadays. You know
Speaker 1: nothing for the little boy said No, little Yaddi or
Speaker 1: whatever his name is, he said he was better than Poc.
Speaker 1: How how that you can't wrap a present? How are
Speaker 1: you gonna say? You know what, I'm saying, you're better
Speaker 1: than But I think too, it's a different time now
Speaker 1: because I think showing love to somebody and showing week
Speaker 1: this motherfucker's think. You know, I mean, we don't respect.
Speaker 1: It's cool. When I look at it, I would look
Speaker 1: at it like you know how I went at Jordan's
Speaker 1: like he went. It was at Jordan, but it was love.
Speaker 1: It was like like I want to be I want
Speaker 1: to go after good. You want to be great? Great
Speaker 1: time competitive to I don't respect because I mean, at
Speaker 1: the same point, if you're going at them, they kind
Speaker 1: of paid the way for you to begin with, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But I just said, I think
Speaker 1: today in society it's not cool. Motherfucker's don't show love.
Speaker 1: They would rather hate ten out of ten times than
Speaker 1: really just just pay that man this respect. But what
Speaker 1: if what if in these certain weird scenarios it's it's
Speaker 1: actually a person's opinion, Like what if that like if
Speaker 1: you know, certain times, certain times it's hate, right, certain
Speaker 1: times I can be like, yo, I don't like this,
Speaker 1: and it could really be coming from a hateful day.
Speaker 1: But what if these certain scenarios, you can't be mad
Speaker 1: at someone to pick at the end of the day. Like,
Speaker 1: I'm a Tupac fanatic, but there's a lot of Tupac
Speaker 1: songs that I don't like, Like Matt is like Matt
Speaker 1: one listen to every song on Tupac every day, Tupac
Speaker 1: the aper scenes working. You know, I'm just saying he
Speaker 1: had a lot of ship. I'm saying, like Matt, that's
Speaker 1: two podcasts a song rapping the A, B C s.
Speaker 1: Matt gonna listen to it like he listened. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying I'm not I don't like it. I'm not. I'm saying, like,
Speaker 1: if it comes on like I don't have to necessary
Speaker 1: here and I would skip it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I'm saying like, and that's my opinion. That's that's
Speaker 1: my opinion. Like to me, a lot of pop shits,
Speaker 1: you know, you can you know some people like oh,
Speaker 1: I can listen to all Eyes on Me and not
Speaker 1: skip a song that's not me. I'm not gonna front
Speaker 1: and say, you know, what I'm saying, Like it's some shop.
Speaker 1: I was like with this today, but it's certain saw
Speaker 1: a certain CDs that you can listen to, you know,
Speaker 1: like my favorite Tupac CD was Me against the World,
Speaker 1: because yeah, I feel like he was more like you
Speaker 1: heard it heard and you heard like you know, so
Speaker 1: it was like passionate to me. And then all eyes
Speaker 1: on me was my revenge, bitch. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You know the revenge maca. That was my revenge I home,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And you know, people like
Speaker 1: pop Ship got this man out of jail. This man
Speaker 1: didn't shower ship nothing. You know, this man went to
Speaker 1: the studio. I heard that. So you're telling me the
Speaker 1: students he went straight to the is way more dedicated,
Speaker 1: like yeah, I would, I don't did a couple of
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Speaker 1: I had to be around, right, So what I'm saying
Speaker 1: that when I'm looking for the outside in as crazy
Speaker 1: as it is, I'm forty years old. I didn't come
Speaker 1: out in the industry until ninety seven. Well was my
Speaker 1: fishal alight? So I've never met I never got to
Speaker 1: meet him ship. It hurts my film. I feel like
Speaker 1: I was right there every moment Park was like I
Speaker 1: can just laugh just like that felt like that second ship. Right.
Speaker 1: But as outside of looking in, this is just pure fan.
Speaker 1: I don't have the inside information because I'm in the
Speaker 1: industry or nothing. It felt I was always in a
Speaker 1: right like it just right, you knew he wasn't gonna
Speaker 1: be here, That's what I mean. Okay, and I'm outside,
Speaker 1: I don't have no inside information as a person who
Speaker 1: actually was there. That's true because like you know, I say,
Speaker 1: like back to back, you see how fast that double
Speaker 1: CD came out, So that shows you like he was
Speaker 1: rushing and he had Okay, I gotta get this done
Speaker 1: for this and he'll do this. No, I don't like this,
Speaker 1: you know, let me know. Wait, yeah, you know. So,
Speaker 1: and it depended on what pop you got that day.
Speaker 1: You know, one day you might get you know, you
Speaker 1: get bit ship. The next day you might get you know,
Speaker 1: he might feel that baby, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So it's just depending on that pot, what pot you
Speaker 1: got that day, because it truly was a gymini. So
Speaker 1: it's just really dependent on you know, is there ever
Speaker 1: any truth to him? You know how they say that
Speaker 1: he was trying to record it as that's as possible
Speaker 1: to get the contract over with, Like that's not true.
Speaker 1: And I hate when people said, like you know, you know,
Speaker 1: people and that's enough saying I said. People always say
Speaker 1: that that's bash. It about should should That's what the
Speaker 1: conspiracy came. First of all, there's no way this is
Speaker 1: new documentary with unsolved unsolved, right and they're basically saying that.
Speaker 1: So I'm just I just that's some ship. People's like
Speaker 1: like they always say, well, Ship was taking Pops money. Understand,
Speaker 1: Pod had passed before we got got Pot shot the cops.
Speaker 1: He beat them brothers up. Park was being sued podcast
Speaker 1: legal fee. So every little tune and few that Pot
Speaker 1: got Park has a pay. So it wasn't like Ship
Speaker 1: was like hey uh you know, and it was like
Speaker 1: Pok was his favorite, you know what I'm saying. That
Speaker 1: was like like my his son. And you know how people, um,
Speaker 1: they made it seem like Ship talk crazy to Pop.
Speaker 1: You know, he didn't you know, now, he didn't. He
Speaker 1: didn't do that because Park demanded him. He's a man
Speaker 1: and he would always say I'm a man just like everybody.
Speaker 1: That's why I like Pop couldn't fight, but he would fight,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And his heart just was
Speaker 1: he just had a big heart. So he didn't give
Speaker 1: a fun. He wasn't don't like it. You know, if
Speaker 1: you say some ship to Pok and you know you
Speaker 1: gonna whop his ass, He's still okay, but you're still
Speaker 1: a bit ass snigger and you take this ass whip me,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's just it's if
Speaker 1: people they shug like and I'm not gonna say that
Speaker 1: Sugar is anything like I love the Cinner like I
Speaker 1: love the Center, but I hate to sin, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I'm not gonna say like like
Speaker 1: like the fund up ship that he's done. But at
Speaker 1: the end of that, that's my uncle. I love him,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. O. So, and it's just
Speaker 1: like that's why I can't wait to do the whole
Speaker 1: thing with stars whoever we do it with, like because
Speaker 1: I want to tell the truth. Like it's people making
Speaker 1: like different was like a prison camp. No, we have fun,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So fun Like do you know,
Speaker 1: like I remember when she got the Hummer, I was like,
Speaker 1: the fund is this gonna stole some ship from the
Speaker 1: army base, do you understand? Like a kid from copting,
Speaker 1: And I'm saying all this ship like at one time,
Speaker 1: every from everybody from the hood, whether their relationship ship
Speaker 1: went south or whatever. He's still hired everybody from the hood,
Speaker 1: you know, and nobody can from that I can say
Speaker 1: didn't do that for him. So let me thinking about
Speaker 1: that now. That is what holds and hold and uh,
Speaker 1: Paul is you know, like excellence and it's crazy he's been.
Speaker 1: He he was doing that because behind people from the hood,
Speaker 1: right and obviously the people in the hood kids to
Speaker 1: go to college. Should paid off people's mortgages. Should did
Speaker 1: so much for people like you know, like he would
Speaker 1: buy the closer, the copter, swap meat and do toy
Speaker 1: stories every sort, give away toys every year. He did
Speaker 1: a mother state brush because he's a mama's boy. See,
Speaker 1: people should put up Shug. I ain't saying, you know, bitch,
Speaker 1: but should had a soft side. S a mama's boy,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So what women say like
Speaker 1: Shug hit them? Oh because Shug it's afraid of his mother.
Speaker 1: You understand I'm saying, not, you know, like he has
Speaker 1: mommy fear. So for you to like he'll call it
Speaker 1: a bitch of bitch because the bitch all bitches ain't wouldn't.
Speaker 1: But he'll call a bitch a bitch. But as far
Speaker 1: as that hitting, like he got too many home girls
Speaker 1: and to a piece, like with the ship, he didn't
Speaker 1: have to do all that. So it's a lot of
Speaker 1: things that people who have said that I want to clarify,
Speaker 1: you know, and I have to. I know, I have
Speaker 1: to protect the guilty on a lot of ships. So
Speaker 1: but I'm excited to do that. I think that's why
Speaker 1: it's so important. Like, like I said, I've always had
Speaker 1: a vision of this project just being tell me what
Speaker 1: other label had dre at its height, snoop at its height,
Speaker 1: pop at its height. That hasn't corrupt the list of
Speaker 1: a bunch of other list you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: The writers, the writers they had, you know what I mean. Like,
Speaker 1: that's why I thought it was so important too. And
Speaker 1: I loved straight out of content, but to me it
Speaker 1: was hard. How do you tell ten or fifteen years
Speaker 1: of content in two hours? You can't, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So that's why when I when I pissed
Speaker 1: it to her about it being a series, it was
Speaker 1: just like the similars, like the part similars, like the
Speaker 1: new addition if you remember, like new Addition story was
Speaker 1: told perfectly because it was a six. It was six
Speaker 1: two nd exactly. Say that's what I'm saying because she
Speaker 1: was always still doing. She always tells me the good
Speaker 1: side of these other people, and I try to explain
Speaker 1: that she'd be getting mad when she sees depictions on
Speaker 1: the movie. I'm like, first of all, it has to
Speaker 1: be fit for a movie screen. It has to fit
Speaker 1: a curtain, certain time frame, so you have to I'm
Speaker 1: not easy already, That's what I'm doing. So that's that's
Speaker 1: why you have to show what they know. You can't
Speaker 1: show Sugar is a mama's boy in anything right now
Speaker 1: until you have a chance to develop his whole story,
Speaker 1: because you know, Sugar is the muscle and Sugar hanking vanilla.
Speaker 1: I sound staring allegedly, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: that's what you know, Sugar. So you can't show. You
Speaker 1: can't show. So that's why we could really develop everybody.
Speaker 1: And then you know, my whole thing is, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know how everything because I'm not she was
Speaker 1: in it. I wasn't in it, but I just know
Speaker 1: there's hard feelings, bad blood. But for me for this
Speaker 1: project to be the best and the production, we got
Speaker 1: behind it and where it's going. I want to bring
Speaker 1: everybody back together. Everybody you talking about, I'm talking about,
Speaker 1: I'm drinking about you're talking about. And I tested my teller.
Speaker 1: No matter who it is, we all just need to
Speaker 1: sit down and figure out. We're all going to figure
Speaker 1: us out to make this the best motherfucking show ever.
Speaker 1: And then you want to the trip how because the
Speaker 1: thing about it, you gotta throw the eagles out there
Speaker 1: to get that. I think me myself, I have to
Speaker 1: get past like I have. She's a hand for I
Speaker 1: have anger issues, especially when like when it comes it's
Speaker 1: like I do I gotta be sworm, But I'm gonna
Speaker 1: text someone telling me be a little lets getting here
Speaker 1: on the phone. Like Strida Compton, I can only watch
Speaker 1: her once. I only watch it on the first So
Speaker 1: when I saw Strida Comptent, I'm looking like, oh, wait
Speaker 1: a minute, you know what I'm saying. I'm like, okay, wait,
Speaker 1: maybe that's the different tut of Compton, you know the
Speaker 1: movie because like with the way that all this ship
Speaker 1: went down, like I was like you're saying. When I
Speaker 1: watched the movie, I'm like, that didn't have Oh okay,
Speaker 1: and then for them to say that Eric Wright died
Speaker 1: grow come on, we're not well say that for the show,
Speaker 1: but Eric right. I don't like the way they portrayed Easy.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I don't like the way
Speaker 1: that I don't want you to finish. I sincerely want
Speaker 1: you to finish. But what I'm saying is sometimes like
Speaker 1: in cinema, like we have make Easy the Okay, That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Um like olt Pole and Rich right,
Speaker 1: this is these famous drug dealers from from New York,
Speaker 1: and they mean they remade this movie right, so and
Speaker 1: everybody and paid the full This was a recreated story.
Speaker 1: They had to do this for cinema. They had to
Speaker 1: make it that way. So people were from New York.
Speaker 1: We all knew that this is not the exact story
Speaker 1: other way went down, but we gotta understand entertainment. Thank you,
Speaker 1: dand her in the Hospital. I loved Straight out of
Speaker 1: Comfort because a movie I didn't know the ins and
Speaker 1: outs that she you know what I mean. So then
Speaker 1: she would tell this is this is how this part went.
Speaker 1: I'm just like, you have to understand. They can't go
Speaker 1: all the way that direction because they have to stay
Speaker 1: on point. They only have ninety minutes to tell this
Speaker 1: fifteen years of content because you can't get the small storm.
Speaker 1: But I asked him like I was. I was wondering
Speaker 1: as a fan, where was Arabian Prince in the film?
Speaker 1: You don't have enough time, he's on the cover. Has
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Speaker 1: so don't wait. Michaelhia being bond so that that's what
Speaker 1: I tried to explain it, and I think that's why
Speaker 1: I sold the pits to not only her, but the
Speaker 1: people were working with now is because you have to
Speaker 1: be helped to develop and tell. There's so many when
Speaker 1: you now everyone's doing bio picks and stuff and you
Speaker 1: can't tell that much content and the amount of time
Speaker 1: they give you, so they have to leave a bunch
Speaker 1: of holes. So if you know, you can plug holes in.
Speaker 1: But if you don't know, it's whatever out there. How
Speaker 1: crazy it would be. I know you're out to talks
Speaker 1: with and you're about to make closing with stars, but
Speaker 1: how crazy it would be. It's a death row on
Speaker 1: her faults. That's the story, right, like Holy ship off
Speaker 1: the old these years later, you know it's crazy crazy,
Speaker 1: my um, we have her. This is gonna make you
Speaker 1: guys slap. But we all go to the same church.
Speaker 1: We all should puff and I we all have Bishop
Speaker 1: Nold Johns. We all go to the same church. So
Speaker 1: it was at one time my pastor was trying to
Speaker 1: get snoop. I mean, I'm sorry, trying to get Sugar
Speaker 1: and Puff to sit down. Well, hold on, this is something.
Speaker 1: Hold on. He kept the same ship like you didn't
Speaker 1: have a lot of you said the past. Hold hold,
Speaker 1: let me stretch you out a little bit, he said
Speaker 1: the past. Ye, Bishop Nold Johns City of refuge. You
Speaker 1: know about she demanded three fights in church. But that's
Speaker 1: another day that I'm getting where I'm mad at hold On.
Speaker 1: Let's mad at you. I was trying to get and
Speaker 1: Puff to sit down, and I think Puff was more willing,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But you know, should like
Speaker 1: to see people, don't. You know when you think about
Speaker 1: the Pocket Big era, the shooting, you you only think
Speaker 1: about Pocket Big. You don't think about the homies that that.
Speaker 1: You know that in the process. Also, you know when
Speaker 1: that whole ship was going on. You know, people always say,
Speaker 1: you know what pop whatever whatever. Somebody asked no die
Speaker 1: that day, you know what I'm saying. So you have
Speaker 1: to understand like people like, it's a soft side, it's
Speaker 1: all side of ship, you know what I'm saying. And um.
Speaker 1: I think, like I said, I think Puff was more
Speaker 1: you know, willing, and there was like two thousand and
Speaker 1: thirteen this recently, yeah, yeah, because I got I'm at
Speaker 1: the way that I actually met Puff for Strew Rick Ross,
Speaker 1: I just got a jail and another story that well
Speaker 1: well well, I mean I'm just saying this so comfortable
Speaker 1: with you. I just had I knew you a million years.
Speaker 1: I just feel like that, like you know, you know
Speaker 1: how you like you just meet certain people, You're like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, that's that's people like you just like certain
Speaker 1: immediately I'm sorry. So um I got out of jail.
Speaker 1: Rick Ross um he um flew me in to Atlanta.
Speaker 1: He was doing the ah let's do it remix and
Speaker 1: so um we um we um he introduced us, and
Speaker 1: you know, Puff was like really receiving and it was
Speaker 1: really you know, like the good at I mean, Puff
Speaker 1: is like dope, it's fun to me, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, you can't say nothing bad about I
Speaker 1: can't take nothing, Like I don't know the thing I'm
Speaker 1: really mad at Puff about that. I don't think I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get over it's him, not you know, keeping one
Speaker 1: toy about longer that's my only be, only be. But
Speaker 1: I think Puffy is like dope, he's like creative, Like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It's like I would love to,
Speaker 1: like one day do sit down and maybe he did
Speaker 1: do some kind of ship like because I like, I
Speaker 1: really admired Puff and he whenever he sees me, it's love,
Speaker 1: you know, Like I remember when Revolte first came, when
Speaker 1: he was in the office in l A and he talked,
Speaker 1: like walked me around and introduced me to people. It's like,
Speaker 1: whenever she comes up, she's good. Like Ross was. Cover's
Speaker 1: going up there a lot as well. So he walked
Speaker 1: me before we get you, I gotta get up out
Speaker 1: of him, Matt. I gotta keep it real with you.
Speaker 1: What do we gotta do to get Derek Fisher? That move?
Speaker 1: That move that was a terrible move. Like, I mean, man,
Speaker 1: a man, like I know you're a real right right,
Speaker 1: Like I'm gonna like my joint. No, I'm just keeping
Speaker 1: it real like this is this is a man and
Speaker 1: man like every real nigger in the world was on
Speaker 1: your side like that. How did that feel? I don't
Speaker 1: I don't mean that. I mean respectful worst respectful way
Speaker 1: because like we wanted you to beat him. We wanted
Speaker 1: you to the world start. Yeah, wanted you. We wanted
Speaker 1: you to actually say it. The world still something that
Speaker 1: seeing the way he was running around the house screaming
Speaker 1: out where someone with the feeling the ship. But it's
Speaker 1: my whole thing with that, and and before evening to
Speaker 1: this story, let me tell you that me and he
Speaker 1: was cool. Now, okay, cool, Okay, So I'll get to that.
Speaker 1: But my whole thing is given the beat. So when
Speaker 1: I when I when I talked to him, I told
Speaker 1: him when we finally talked, I was just like, I
Speaker 1: don't agree with you date my ex wife some fun
Speaker 1: to me, I still whatever. What pissed me off was
Speaker 1: you were staying in the house I was paying for
Speaker 1: with my children and didn't tell me. Wait, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not playing this person. You're staying in the house
Speaker 1: I paid for. It was cool. Yeah, we see mates
Speaker 1: and the Lakers. It was cool. I hung out and
Speaker 1: had dinner, cool teammates, had each other's numbers. He used
Speaker 1: to come to my events with Puerto Ricans. You would
Speaker 1: have stabbed him. It was like, I just could be
Speaker 1: a lot of niggles get killed for much less, killed
Speaker 1: for much less if you want to keep it on
Speaker 1: the way real. So my whole thing when I told
Speaker 1: him was it I can get over the fact that,
Speaker 1: I mean, you funk with my ex wife whatever you know,
Speaker 1: I left her, I divorced her. I'm sure she was
Speaker 1: gonna move on and over that. So I wasn't a principal.
Speaker 1: But whoever knows me as my kids in my life,
Speaker 1: I'll die from a kill for him. I'll do whatever
Speaker 1: it takes to make them happy. That's who I am.
Speaker 1: So when you think you can just come and stay
Speaker 1: in my house and be around my kids without telling me,
Speaker 1: that's a real problem with me, real problem with me.
Speaker 1: So I told him, if you would have came to
Speaker 1: me as a man and just told me like, I
Speaker 1: don't know how you would have broke it to me,
Speaker 1: but I would have respected the fact. I would have
Speaker 1: been mad, but I would have respected you because you
Speaker 1: came to me as a man. If you can come
Speaker 1: to me as a man, that's how much I'm gonna
Speaker 1: give you. Like I said, I'm not in love with
Speaker 1: her no more. So my main goes to my kids happy.
Speaker 1: If that's the move, that's the movie you want to make.
Speaker 1: That's the movie you're gonna make. You get with whatever
Speaker 1: that whatever it comes, is that. But if you would
Speaker 1: have came to me as a man and just be like,
Speaker 1: check this out, bro, this is what's going on. I
Speaker 1: want to come to you first before you heard it
Speaker 1: from anyone else, and this is what's happening, I would
Speaker 1: have been like, that's what me and you know that's
Speaker 1: got cold one whole already. It's come on, man, it's
Speaker 1: you can't something. You just can't. You're not really just
Speaker 1: don't do nothing like but he's from worthy from Arkansas.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying everybody out there, but I'm saying whoever
Speaker 1: you know where was the like For instance, my my
Speaker 1: first my first marriage was for poems first cousin. So
Speaker 1: the first day I'm an I told upon listen that's it. Look,
Speaker 1: I have no idea, but I think I just fell
Speaker 1: in love with your first cousin. It's my friend. I
Speaker 1: see tithing jail, So it's whatever. Like I don't have
Speaker 1: no problem saying that. But it was up front. So
Speaker 1: now it's not like Tony and um, what is it scarface?
Speaker 1: When it finds out, it's not like the day we
Speaker 1: could talk about it. We could do whatever, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: that was what I told him when we sat down,
Speaker 1: and there when I when I approached them, that's what
Speaker 1: I told him. And were cool, now, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like I squashed me at the end of
Speaker 1: the day. And what really made me squats She always
Speaker 1: looks fun, but I'm saying what made me squashing was
Speaker 1: my kids are just my kids really like it, like
Speaker 1: they lived together now in the valley, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: I kept it so real, just Nick. I'm just like,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be around my kids more than I am.
Speaker 1: The way are divorcing my visitation stuff. So you got
Speaker 1: to teach them how to be men and right and
Speaker 1: wrong and discipline them as you see, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Like I gave him that kind of power.
Speaker 1: That's a lot of power, bro, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And that's that's that's respect and that's as long as
Speaker 1: that's my thing my kids. But my kids told him
Speaker 1: like that, and we really like dark actually to be
Speaker 1: friends when you know what I mean, And that's the
Speaker 1: only thing that's the real fun. You know, nobody can't
Speaker 1: agree with that kid. I can care less about all that.
Speaker 1: I couldn't went the rest of my life just staring
Speaker 1: at the ning every time, like just wanting to know
Speaker 1: if I might whip his asterday or not. You know
Speaker 1: you can still like now, you know every five like
Speaker 1: every five weeks to every five guys, you're still around.
Speaker 1: You still got still you kind of understand what I'm saying, man, Like,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying that you stop my kids if
Speaker 1: they happen to happen like I just like I was.
Speaker 1: But it's crazy. When that ship happened, I got love
Speaker 1: from the NFL referees, owners, everyone that saw me on
Speaker 1: the streets. Motherfucker. Man, you're like you that's what you did.
Speaker 1: You should have moral games. That should be your your
Speaker 1: colden lines morl game because you were all people with
Speaker 1: more you know, snakes cut the grass and stas. What
Speaker 1: you did is every person that had morrils and said,
Speaker 1: you you know what, that's just we hate this other guy.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, that's that's the dope ship for being
Speaker 1: being living the righteous way man, And I want to
Speaker 1: try to lose you for that. I'm trying to rub
Speaker 1: He's trying to rub that off on me is any
Speaker 1: time my sick. You don't you don't believe it forgive,
Speaker 1: like I'm really like like when you're going, I know,
Speaker 1: I'm really like that. You know, I say something for
Speaker 1: life like that's really how I feel. Like it's ship
Speaker 1: if you fucked up, Like this is my best friend.
Speaker 1: So and it's like anybody that's close to me, like
Speaker 1: movement right now, she took all that ship. She a
Speaker 1: big ass teddy when she gon up. Though at the
Speaker 1: same time, you know, this is my best friend, and
Speaker 1: you know, it's like certain things like you can't get
Speaker 1: because that's you can't really get involved because that affects
Speaker 1: his kids, you know what I'm saying, because like if
Speaker 1: he didn't have enough kids, I would go nuts, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, and it was you know,
Speaker 1: it's the fact that I have to respect that, Like
Speaker 1: if I see Derek, I can't be disrespectful because that
Speaker 1: could possibly affect you know, his kids, you know, actual relationship.
Speaker 1: You know, I just relationship, you got, that's all it.
Speaker 1: Let me. I don't like her, but I always love
Speaker 1: her because she's the mother of my children. She gave
Speaker 1: me too, so I say all the bullshit she puts me.
Speaker 1: She gave me two beautiful boys. And that's why I
Speaker 1: never take that. I've never like I always see her
Speaker 1: and like slapped it or you know, do some stuff
Speaker 1: to her like I respect her because that's like I do.
Speaker 1: So she could do whatever she wanted, she could say
Speaker 1: what she wanted to say. But God bless you. Right,
Speaker 1: So so now what do we want to tell the
Speaker 1: people before we get about it? Because we know you
Speaker 1: gotta go and I want to smoke. I got more
Speaker 1: weight if you want to smoke. I really I really
Speaker 1: appreciate both for y'all for coming and just letting me,
Speaker 1: you know, into your lives and you know, and I
Speaker 1: like this type of platonic relationship, right, I like we
Speaker 1: fight like brother and sister. Well, I wasn't talking to
Speaker 1: two before she surprised me and came here like I
Speaker 1: didn't even talk to you since what down to night?
Speaker 1: And she popped up with me talking ship like that's
Speaker 1: it's real. You know it's real. So we're gonna leave
Speaker 1: the fans with you. Guys got there for what is
Speaker 1: it called? We have? We don't want to throw it
Speaker 1: out to you. We got a lot of dope ship
Speaker 1: covering like I said, our our goal is to bring
Speaker 1: everybody back to Yeah yeah, see from the Bay from Okland.
Speaker 1: Something we got, we got the we got the right,
Speaker 1: so that one we gotta sets of everybody's spoken. We
Speaker 1: had one lighter, gonna do a film model. Yeah, hue
Speaker 1: p new you got the life right, got the script
Speaker 1: and funding already like on that because I need to
Speaker 1: know what that means because I'm like at that type
Speaker 1: of level. So we can I want to do that.
Speaker 1: My partner, Corney Benson, became tight with it. That the
Speaker 1: the Huey Family, the New Family, U, Bobby c David Hill,
Speaker 1: You're the foundation all all of it. Because you're you're
Speaker 1: not going to make a Black pant third movie. It's
Speaker 1: going to be called Power to the People, but it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a Black Panther movie. So that's why I
Speaker 1: love all this movement right now. The real Ship, the
Speaker 1: real Ship, the real Ship. It's crazy enough, yeah, but
Speaker 1: it's okay because people get mad at the truth. You
Speaker 1: get mad at the truth. You want to be mad
Speaker 1: at me, it's the truth. At the end of the day,
Speaker 1: said we're talking. I'm talking to my homeway Ryan Kruler.
Speaker 1: They just did this last black Panther. He's from Oakland.
Speaker 1: Us to play football, my little brother, us to be
Speaker 1: in my house, eating up on my food and doing
Speaker 1: mother should don't want to put that on camp noting.
Speaker 1: But that's my homie, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: he just killed whether they have three D eighteen million
Speaker 1: and count right now? You know what I mean When
Speaker 1: I'm talking to him about doing this, because I mean,
Speaker 1: he's from open you know, I mean, he's got the
Speaker 1: post of Oakland. I want to make this so authentic
Speaker 1: and tell the story because it's dangerous if you're not
Speaker 1: if you if you don't serve the panthers, right, if
Speaker 1: you don't know the panthers. All you think when you
Speaker 1: see black people trying to come together and force change,
Speaker 1: white people gonna be scared and they're bad. You mean,
Speaker 1: but let's educate these people. Let him know what they're
Speaker 1: about about the program they have from you know, seeing
Speaker 1: the single moms, and you know that the food they provide,
Speaker 1: you know, all the stuff. There's bad ship, just like
Speaker 1: with that frois that ship and they did a lot
Speaker 1: of good ship, you know what I mean. And I
Speaker 1: think now with with with our crazy ass president and
Speaker 1: just the way the world is so cool to be
Speaker 1: racist right now, you know what I mean, Like now
Speaker 1: was the time to really show like that's what it is.
Speaker 1: And I think this is something that could become a
Speaker 1: movement and everybody's gonna jump on this ship. So we've
Speaker 1: had since I announce saying when I if I would
Speaker 1: tell you the names that hit me the top of
Speaker 1: the top have hitten a triple plus want to be
Speaker 1: a part of a part of this, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So I just t I had, you know, honestly,
Speaker 1: you know I need because there's a lot of people
Speaker 1: who do that right now, you know special You know
Speaker 1: I was doing it before it was cool, you know
Speaker 1: what people now so like they want to be a powersher.
Speaker 1: But you know, T I was, you know, medicine ships
Speaker 1: coming beginning, So coming was always on some ship like
Speaker 1: people who like I said, that's why I think. You know,
Speaker 1: when you think of Beyonce coming out with a concert,
Speaker 1: when you know she's sitting in the wicker chair with
Speaker 1: the ship. That's how she opened her concert. You always
Speaker 1: see the you always see Alicia Keys doing you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, like this is something that we already authentically believing.
Speaker 1: So that's probably was so perfect with this Black Panthers
Speaker 1: superhero to kind of start the buzz and then we
Speaker 1: hit him with the real black I think that started
Speaker 1: the bus. Did that turned the story? Actually? Yeah? And
Speaker 1: then that turn it was it was like the little
Speaker 1: spark then right, and they opened the door, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like I said, people are gonna be mad.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be but they're mad at the truth. You know,
Speaker 1: you're mad at the truth that that's not our fault.
Speaker 1: You don't want to hear the truth. You don't want
Speaker 1: to hear how you you know, have you deprived us
Speaker 1: for hundreds of years? You know what I mean? Right,
Speaker 1: so you don't. But now we're in a position of power.
Speaker 1: You gotta think. Ryan Paton was a black man from Oakland, California.
Speaker 1: I went up to Disney to visit him while he
Speaker 1: was shooting this Black Panther. We're walking around, We're the
Speaker 1: only black people we see besides his homeboy. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like you walk around a lot of Disney.
Speaker 1: He's in Disney. Disney gave him hud Yes, two hundred
Speaker 1: millions is not two hundred mids marveled two hundred million dollars.
Speaker 1: He's a black man from Oakland. And it was the
Speaker 1: third film, right, it was Fruitvale Station. Creating then said,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, So like this, what's Creed?
Speaker 1: Could the boxing ship that had Michael be Jordan about Rocket, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he'd be, So he killed Fruitville Station. He's he's only
Speaker 1: only dirty from Oakland. Like I said, he played college
Speaker 1: football my little brother. So she just like to see
Speaker 1: him walking around Disney, you know what I mean? Like
Speaker 1: who said, well, you know, walking around the White House,
Speaker 1: and you know what he said? You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: that's it's uncharted territory we're visiting right now and Trump,
Speaker 1: but Trump doesn't know it's Trump with something that's doing
Speaker 1: with all this bullshit. That's race of the ideologies and
Speaker 1: the people as he's bringing us together. You mean, we realized.
Speaker 1: I think some black people got comfortable thinking, Okay, we
Speaker 1: got money, we had a black president. We made it.
Speaker 1: These motherfucking white people still don't sunk with us, no
Speaker 1: matter how much you would have won the championship, would
Speaker 1: never go around. We did last year. I was with
Speaker 1: the l Yeah, we decided early on we wasn't going
Speaker 1: Remember that's when he said something to staff and all that,
Speaker 1: like we we know to the last Yeah we had
Speaker 1: a plan on. Yeah, we had no planing on. Yeah
Speaker 1: damn yeah. And that's when they did not gonna say.
Speaker 1: Trump said what I mean, y'all it's rappers on the
Speaker 1: ship right there, said I'm not going if Trump inboded
Speaker 1: you the White House with you now, And people get
Speaker 1: mad at that, but it's our truth. You can't get back.
Speaker 1: Comment actually said all political things aside. Trump say I
Speaker 1: want to have dinner with you at the White House.
Speaker 1: You ain't gonna if you're talking about paying for some
Speaker 1: pleasya goo. I think I think he was going to.
Speaker 1: Definitely I wouldn't go. I didn't even know that. I
Speaker 1: didn't even know that it existed. I was like, you
Speaker 1: don't know, learn heat but the prostitute, Yeah yeah, he's
Speaker 1: bringing them all even a real dollars, like yeah, I
Speaker 1: have to talk to the book likely give that money.
Speaker 1: He lived, He lived like a CEO. Yeah, yeah, living
Speaker 1: like bro. Damn, I don't know. And that's like death
Speaker 1: wrote when he did something for the world, that's Trump did. Ship.
Speaker 1: But you know, you know what I'm saying, So getting
Speaker 1: the politics get likely, Yeah, well, thank you let me
Speaker 1: tell us we really think if we enjoyed the time,
Speaker 1: that's what we do. Um In case anybody don't know
Speaker 1: if if they've watched the shows, our show is about
Speaker 1: bicking up our legends. People. So many times in our culture,
Speaker 1: you know, a person get ten years in this game
Speaker 1: and they want to tell them that it's over for them.
Speaker 1: But black don't crack. So what do you watch it
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Speaker 1: only like I only took like like four private jets
Speaker 1: in like a whole life, like like like out of
Speaker 1: a fourth or fifth time I've seen you looking like
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Speaker 1: like like I just some fly. That was some flysh
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Speaker 1: remember where it was up keeping together, he's keeping well.
Speaker 1: I got up some real ship. But I love your music,
Speaker 1: like and don't appreciate we remember we met at Shanteaine's
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Speaker 1: it's like you really the people that like people should
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Speaker 1: I don't know. You're gotta go, so like a quick
Speaker 1: you got a podcast coming up to CBS. I started,
Speaker 1: we can't even so we had that. I wanted to
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Speaker 1: it's CBS and we love no, no, not, we love
Speaker 1: great people, great people. I had a I had a
Speaker 1: grandmother and that really had you know, taught me about
Speaker 1: and stuff like she taught me you never met a stranger,
Speaker 1: so you have to treat everybody a different way. So
Speaker 1: that's my whole thing. The grandmother said, you never met
Speaker 1: a strange, never met a stranger, because you don't know
Speaker 1: how God is coming back, so you have to treat everybody.
Speaker 1: You know what I say, This is my saying because
Speaker 1: I've met I met you before. Yeah, it's similar to that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: i've met you before. I may not met you. I
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Speaker 1: like because I'm saying I'm forty years old, I really
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm sixty nine. Though I don't know
Speaker 1: why I said that was weird, Right, I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm older because I really like, I really traveled the world.
Speaker 1: I did a lot of things. I've been in jail,
Speaker 1: I did everything, and it's like I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: missed a yagy like you know, I'm feel like I'm
Speaker 1: very very old. You know what I said. I was
Speaker 1: and I was angry, you know what I'm saying. You know,
Speaker 1: and I think, like not to be sentimental, but when
Speaker 1: he and I got close, you know it was it
Speaker 1: became it was cool, you know what I'm saying, because
Speaker 1: I had somebody like you just really got my back
Speaker 1: because of me, not because oh she can cause somebody
Speaker 1: get you sucked up, or she knows this person or
Speaker 1: she hangs for this person. Was also real, genuine type.
Speaker 1: Was a lot of her and me, like if I
Speaker 1: didn't play in the NBA, like I just really have
Speaker 1: a lot of I don't give a funk because you
Speaker 1: disrespect you know, just how did just even have a
Speaker 1: loving hip hop permiump me and trying to pump me
Speaker 1: pump me and some ship like that? What else? What
Speaker 1: else that say? You like, yeah, premier like that. We
Speaker 1: was walking, I said, you need to watch where the
Speaker 1: funk you going? I saidbody, watch what you guys said?
Speaker 1: You watch where the funk? You know, you just came
Speaker 1: to me disrespectful. So I'm just like you are. I
Speaker 1: don't know who this was fresh after rage a ship,
Speaker 1: so she might have some of them my asking the
Speaker 1: long room, but I know right in front of me
Speaker 1: she wasn't gonna do ship, so I can say. And
Speaker 1: then after that, we just it's just like you know,
Speaker 1: like I said, not knowing who she was, who she's
Speaker 1: related to, her death, row tides and they come to
Speaker 1: find out I'm the biggest pop fan in the world,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's Snoop and Drain and
Speaker 1: I'm just like, these are people you grew up and
Speaker 1: I'm like, God, that's fucking crazy. And just that was it.
Speaker 1: So this is the last question. I promise. I promised
Speaker 1: I went were over time bleacher report. If I'm late
Speaker 1: this cousin norid so hit a promote? TV got me
Speaker 1: the other day. I'm not sure who we work. I
Speaker 1: just got I think it's wrong. Documentary you gotta do?
Speaker 1: This is this is how important because when people looked
Speaker 1: at it, what do they call biopics? Biopics? Right, let's
Speaker 1: look at the last couple of biopics, right, um, straight
Speaker 1: out of coming right, Biggie Biggie the Notorious Big I
Speaker 1: forget what it was called? And pops right, and what
Speaker 1: else there we have? Hip hop? Hip hop wise? This
Speaker 1: this is it's pretty much okay. Now, if people had
Speaker 1: to pick those three, send them outically and just yes,
Speaker 1: movie wise, we will all agree that stray what's the
Speaker 1: best on what's the best one? Right? Not about the
Speaker 1: real story but it was How important is that for y'all?
Speaker 1: Because the thing is, I heard notice you say something earlier.
Speaker 1: You said you wanted to bring everybody on again time altogether,
Speaker 1: because there's certain people will have things in that era.
Speaker 1: But sis I seen you, I've seen you kind of
Speaker 1: like shade the whack one to the angel a little
Speaker 1: to black is never was there from So there was
Speaker 1: no reason there was no shade for that. Okay, I
Speaker 1: gotta said, But I wish dads would like get over
Speaker 1: it because like you know, that ship, it's like twenty
Speaker 1: plus years, you know what I'm saying, let it go,
Speaker 1: like it's time. Like we got more years behind this
Speaker 1: than we have in front of us. So it's sometimes
Speaker 1: you gotta let you go, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Because he's stealing my saying and saying them on came. No,
Speaker 1: that's what he saw that for me, we ain't gonna
Speaker 1: get into that about it as an outside of looking
Speaker 1: at it. And that's purely what I am. I feel
Speaker 1: like I feel like because I feel like you and
Speaker 1: whack them all stronger than gather, right, it's stronger than
Speaker 1: gather And it's not even whack so much. It's just
Speaker 1: her and other people. You know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: I said, and that's what I work on. That's what
Speaker 1: I kind of like. I'm the you know the same
Speaker 1: side of what she's talking about, because I see the
Speaker 1: bigger picture, you know what I mean. Like they may
Speaker 1: not like each other, they may not this, but this
Speaker 1: is where we can put on some money back in
Speaker 1: everybody's pockets. And are the homies from the hood drun security.
Speaker 1: I can't have I can't have you disrespecting one of
Speaker 1: the greatest men to me that donar planet think I
Speaker 1: would be. You know what I'm saying. That's like you
Speaker 1: guess my homie. You know what I'm saying. That's like,
Speaker 1: let me tell you when I met Um, After I
Speaker 1: met Um Mob Deep, I talk too much. I gotta
Speaker 1: go when I let wait, when I met Prodigy, having
Speaker 1: I don't even listen to hit him up to saying
Speaker 1: hit him up? What's my soul? You get what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like I knew that ship back and forth the end,
Speaker 1: when Pap was my phone, that was my my ship.
Speaker 1: Now that I've met these people, I've grown, it doesn't
Speaker 1: have the same effects because you hit him up would
Speaker 1: make me want to go kill like fortunately I was
Speaker 1: on the jet to New York. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: that's how I hit him up. And now then I'm
Speaker 1: older and I hear it that ship, I'll be like,
Speaker 1: pok was man right here, let me turn the song.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, doesn't have the same effect.
Speaker 1: It's there my ship though, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's like like how Nova's saline. Like I don't listen
Speaker 1: to certain songs like the same anymore. Like I laughed
Speaker 1: now at Dred and when um real motherfucker jeese that
Speaker 1: actually was one of my favorite songs when the ship
Speaker 1: came out. You know what I'm saying, motherfuck you know mother.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like I love that ship.
Speaker 1: But it's just you can't just I would never disrespect
Speaker 1: like all these people that I have that should have
Speaker 1: beef back in the days we speak, we've talked. It's
Speaker 1: all loves, but and it's so somebody that had that's
Speaker 1: not that's not it was never in the life in
Speaker 1: the beginning, shouldn't have that much of an opinion. That's like,
Speaker 1: I'm not a doctor, so I'm not gonna go in
Speaker 1: and tell a surgeon how to uh do his fucking job.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell Matt how to go down the
Speaker 1: court and drip. Well, I'm not gonna tell you how
Speaker 1: to get on the mic because I can't live it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I haven't lived that life. So for my
Speaker 1: thing with him is I don't in the disrespect and
Speaker 1: just call for the first you. You know, it's like
Speaker 1: you're with you this and these people who an't disrespect
Speaker 1: next snoop. You know what I'm saying. Stupid is a legend.
Speaker 1: You know, I just throw like the way you both
Speaker 1: thinking harmony. I don't give a fucking here if it's
Speaker 1: crazy both there like um, the megs is whatever, that's
Speaker 1: his fucking opinion. He has that right that has an
Speaker 1: opinion because that's his life. The ninol is still selling
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