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Speaker 1: Original air date October four. The synopsis is that Corey

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Speaker 1: not sitting his fault. It's the character. It's because if

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00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 1: you take the idea of like, oh will like or sorry,

424
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 1: Eric is willing to put up with an awful person

425
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 1: because it's he gets to day to senior, right right,

426
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,880
Speaker 1: There's so many cool ways you could go with that

427
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 1: and like have having him having to keep compromising his

428
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 1: values in order to appease some woman. That could have

429
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,679
Speaker 1: been subtle, dynamic and interesting, and you could see like

430
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 1: the slow erosion of Eric's character, but instead it's like

431
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 1: done from the moment we see the situation the last episode,

432
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 1: it's like established, and then they just keep reiterating the

433
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 1: same thing over. There's no development, there's no change. It's

434
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 1: just okay, And I just didn't find he says something.

435
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 1: It says something in the accent. Jason walks up and

436
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: is you know, I can't believe you're doing this, and

437
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 1: then Eric chooses her until he doesn't. It was Yes,

438
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 1: it was over and over again, the same jokes, so dumb. Yeah,

439
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, I agree. Jason begs Eric to

440
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,680
Speaker 1: play hoops, and desire say Jason is a little petite

441
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 1: to play basketball. This triggers Jason to go off on Desiree,

442
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: and Eric decides to defend Desiree in the argument. Jason

443
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 1: then leaves desire says Eric now has a decision to

444
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 1: make between his Elphin buddy and her. Jason then runs

445
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,439
Speaker 1: back in and says he's not Elphin, and then he

446
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 1: does an impression of the elephant man, which I don't get.

447
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: That I didn't get at all, Like it almost seemed

448
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 1: and I could be wrong. It almost just seemed like

449
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,959
Speaker 1: I was going to say Jason ad libbing, but I

450
00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 1: doubt in his second or third episode he would have.

451
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 1: I don't think he ad lib but I think maybe

452
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 1: they had written I am a human being and he

453
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,640
Speaker 1: was delivering it straight, and then on this take decided

454
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: to do a complete impression but either which is not

455
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,880
Speaker 1: a good impression, but it also just doesn't make any half.

456
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense, like either he's defending himself

457
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: I say I am a human being, which is funny,

458
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 1: or it was so confusing to me that before I

459
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 1: turned the subtitles on, which I did turn the subtitles on,

460
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: I figured out how to do it on the new

461
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 1: TV and I had to do it for this episode

462
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 1: because there were that many moments that I went what what?

463
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 1: What did they just say. When he did the elephant

464
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 1: man impression, I actually thought she must have just said

465
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 1: instead of elephant, she must have said elephant elephant friend.

466
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 1: And I was like, did she say your elephant friend?

467
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 1: That doesn't make any sense. And then and then so, anyway,

468
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: what I like this episode less? Now I was gonna say,

469
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: are turning great? Maybe it has something to do with

470
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 1: the fact that you watched it at midnight I did.

471
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be totally honest you. I forgot to do

472
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: my homework last night, and as I was getting into bed,

473
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:06,919
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I have to watch an episode

474
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 1: of Boy Meets World tomorrow. Yeah, exactly. Thank god it

475
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: is dry January. That's all I have to say. I

476
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: was able to. Luckily, I was like, Okay, I can

477
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 1: stay up to watch this, but yes I might. I

478
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 1: might have so again, if you want boy funny Man

479
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: midnight half asleep boy is great? Oh my gosh. Okay.

480
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: So then we are in Mr Turner's classroom. Mr Turner

481
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 1: is lecturing about grapes of and a wonderful shirt about

482
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: brown tie ye seventies style that, man, I think we

483
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: should start naming them. Yeah, that's a good idea. I'm

484
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: in for a name. I did not come up with

485
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: a name, but I did think that it looked like

486
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 1: the pattern on the shirt twisted around and got dizzy

487
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 1: and like fell into the tie. Yes, exactly, it's a

488
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 1: pattern on a pattern. And yeah, it was like the

489
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 1: shirt was like it's carcasso to the shirt. I already

490
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: just saw the cut that's going to be on the internet.

491
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: So so really doesn't jump up to where you know

492
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: exactly what it's going to be, but there you go,

493
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:24,439
Speaker 1: Hello Instagram, Hello inst So. Turner talks about the violent

494
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: and bloody battles in the book, and Shawn says it

495
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: sounds like bingo night at his trailer part Again, the

496
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: Vernons thing that you were talking about. Will it's like

497
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 1: the whatever crazy reference I can make to my home life.

498
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 1: That's that's the joke. It's so funny. Yeah it is.

499
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: It's really funny. And that was a fun That one

500
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: made me laugh. I thought that was funny. Turner says,

501
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 1: in a similar struggle, they have to prove to Mr

502
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: Feenie the boss that they can learn the material without

503
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: taking a test, So he passes out a paper with

504
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 1: questions on it that he calls a survey survey. Corey

505
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: says Turner gave them his word, and Sean admits he

506
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: actually read the book this time, which I love that.

507
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: So you read the whole five hundred and eighty two pages.

508
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 1: We don't even acknowledge. That's why my head still hurts.

509
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: I guess. Uh. So Corey turns in the blank paper

510
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 1: and says he's not taking the test. Everyone in the

511
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,719
Speaker 1: class follows him and we have a revolt. And when

512
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: he when he hands in the test and then turns back,

513
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: it's pretty funny. I remember it. Yeah, So he hands

514
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 1: in the test like I'm not taking this and he

515
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 1: turns back with this worried face like I can't believe.

516
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 1: I just didn't want to walk back to Sean. I

517
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: do remember that. It was funny. Um. I also somewhere

518
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: in this moment was like, where's Dusty. Dusty I missed?

519
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: But has he been in any of this season? He

520
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: must don't think he has. But this episode I remembered

521
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,959
Speaker 1: so many of these background actors when I saw them,

522
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: because we worked with them so much in this episode.

523
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: In particular, I think they were there earlier in the

524
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,239
Speaker 1: week because, like a lot of them, because we had

525
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: to do all the stuff in the cafeteria, like marching

526
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: and chanting and stuff, and so I recognize him and

527
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: I remembered their personalities. I was like, oh my gosh,

528
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 1: we talked. I remember hanging out well. And there's the

529
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: one actor who is kind of the writer stand in.

530
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: He looks like it looks a little like writer and

531
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: he's he's the character in the Scream episode. Different. M yeah,

532
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: that's a different guy. Are you sure the same haircut?

533
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: He just has the writer hair different. It's the same.

534
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: It's it's the guy who took the mask off it no, no,

535
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: do you know are we thinking? Are you sure you're

536
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: not thinking of the wrong person that I'm talking about.

537
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: I'll send you a picture of him, the same guy.

538
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: I saw the guy from behind in this episode. I

539
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: was like, that haircut is exactly me. And then when

540
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: they showed from the front, and I definitely remember the

541
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: guy who was in the Scream episode. It's a completely

542
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: different background actor who also had the same haircut. This

543
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:59,479
Speaker 1: guy is not that guy. I thought they just it

544
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: was the pular haircut and other kids had it. People

545
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: in our show had a middle part, middle part, middle part. Okay, um,

546
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: so Mr Feenie comes in and realizes everyone refused to

547
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: take the test. He asks He asks Turner if he's

548
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: out of his mind, calling him earring boy. I thought

549
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: Bill and Tony were really funny in this episode. I

550
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: just think it feels false, like the comedy work. Comedy

551
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: works for me, not for me. Yeah, it worked for me.

552
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: The build builds who you're going to take this test

553
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 1: or die? Like all that stuff I thought was really funny.

554
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: And yeah, I thought I liked a lot of the

555
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: comedy in this. I thought the die line was pretty funny.

556
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't laugh at earring boy, um Poenie.

557
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: This part I thought was funny. Foenie tells the class

558
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: they're delicate little flowers just beginning their high school blooming

559
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: and I love it. Cut to a reaction shot of

560
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: Ben and Writer and writer. I don't know if you

561
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: noticed your reaction to Phoenie saying this, but it was

562
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: hilarious to me. Phoene says the line, you know, you're

563
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: delicate little flowers just beginning, you're high school blooming. And

564
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: the reaction shot is you going you actually have like

565
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: a little pouts your leave a little pouty lip and

566
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: you do a little shoulder shimmy, and I don't I

567
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: couldn't tell if you were kind of grost weird out,

568
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: but I think it's almost like a yeah, yeah, I'm

569
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,239
Speaker 1: in my performance in this episode. I'm sorry. It was

570
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: very big. You got really really just like really entered

571
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: awkward goofy phase of adolescence, and I was just so

572
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: uncomfortable with my face and my body. But it was

573
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: at this episode. The writing in this episode was was

574
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: went for you especially? I feel like, but I stay

575
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: here for a while, like until season four. I think

576
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: I'm in this like dumb sewn goofy phase that I'm

577
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: just not looking forward to watch him. I thinking I

578
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: think it'll it'll come down to earth faster than you

579
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: think it does. I think so too. Don't judge it

580
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: by this episode. I really think that this episode, I'm

581
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: telling you something's up with it. So we'll see, we'll

582
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: see something's up with it. Um. And then Phoenie tells

583
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: the class they will take this test or die. Corey

584
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: walks up to the front of the class and rallies

585
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: them against Phoene. He says they won't take the test,

586
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: they will die together, and they become organized like the

587
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: people in the book should have, and everyone says die

588
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: and they start a union. They remember the song. Do

589
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: you remember having everybody having to learn the song because

590
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: nobody knew it? Yeah, And so it was like this

591
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: like nineteen sixties referees. Remember you're doing in the nineties shows.

592
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: If all the kids would have known this. Michael shocked

593
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: that nobody had that. Nobody what happened? We don't know what?

594
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: He's like, what what do you mean? You don't know what?

595
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: And where? This is where a lot of his bizarre

596
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: references that we would always joke about came from. Is

597
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: these things where it was so well known in nineteen

598
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: fifty six. How do you not know about that? How

599
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: do you know? The union label? You had to teach

600
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: like how to how to sing it and everybody singing?

601
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: You know, they brought down he might might have even

602
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: brought down Ray Colcord because they have anything music wise.

603
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: They always brought people down and write it because it

604
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: obviously is an outdated nobody knew it. I remember that

605
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: nobody knew it and had none of us. It wasn't

606
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: even when were those commercials airing. They must have the seventies.

607
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: They were in this it was a it was a

608
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: jingle from the seventies and eighties and it was it

609
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: was about it was like women's rights, genes and then yeah, clothing.

610
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: I think it had to do with like the garment

611
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: district unions. Yeah, it was a sporting in the unions.

612
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, so obscure for us, it really was.

613
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: They all storm out of the class and Turner turns

614
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: to Principal Phoeny and says, oh, yeah, I could learn

615
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: a lot from you, all right, And Phoeny says, shut up.

616
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: Were you guys weirded out by the wall extension, like

617
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: the little extra bit of classroom I had to add

618
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: because it was so it's so weird. Whenever, you know,

619
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: they whenever we needed to like the left of the desk,

620
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: basically they had they would have to bring in an

621
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: extra section of wall, and you know it's added on

622
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: because you can see, like there's a pipe to like

623
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 1: to cover up the sea. It's called a pocket wall

624
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 1: or like a wall extension they bring in. But it's

625
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 1: so awkward in the sitcom, like because they needed space

626
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 1: for Pheny and Turner to have their aside away from

627
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: the kids and like to separate them in their own shot.

628
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 1: But they had to bring in this extra wall. It

629
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,760
Speaker 1: just felt so and so some of you may be wondering,

630
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: why not just extend the wall and keep it there forever.

631
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: It's so that when they when the camera camera A

632
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,720
Speaker 1: is shooting towards the children in the classroom, the camera

633
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: needs exactly you and Ben, the camera needs to be

634
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: as close to the desk as possible to get good eyes,

635
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: to get good exactly and so you can't just have

636
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: the wall there permanently because you need a camera way

637
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: up into the set. And then when you're shooting from

638
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: the opposite direction of who's standing at the desk or

639
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 1: behind the desk, if they need to be to the

640
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,720
Speaker 1: left of it, that suddenly you need more wall. Otherwise

641
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 1: you're shooting off the stage. So yeah, a little shooting

642
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: through the doorway. When you're shooting on the person at

643
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 1: the desk, they're being shot through the door with the

644
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: cameras actually in the doorway. Classrooms are very very difficult

645
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 1: to shoot. And that's why I like, you see, I'm

646
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: always like staggered. So Ben's like Ben's chairs one way

647
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,399
Speaker 1: and then my chair is like like you know, a

648
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: foot further downstage, just so you can see both of us,

649
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: because otherwise, like you know, classrooms do not make sense

650
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: for Sitcom's Yeah, it's very hard to shoot. So we

651
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,439
Speaker 1: then go to a commercial. We come back in Mr

652
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: Turner's classroom. Mr Feeney is looking out the window and says, Ah, St. Aligius.

653
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,959
Speaker 1: I looked it up. It's from Elsewhere. That's his That's yes,

654
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: that's his hospital from St. Elsewhere is St. Allegis? What

655
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: is hold on? It plays? It plays on multiple levels

656
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: because St. Allgius is also the pat patron saint of

657
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 1: farm workers. Interesting, okay, now that the hospital that Bill

658
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: Daniel's character worked at, it was a resident at in St. Elsewhere,

659
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: was St. Allegias. So he's it's a total meta joke.

660
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: He's looking out the window at his old show going God,

661
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: I wish I was still on that show. Okay, So

662
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: so right, let me let me correct what I said.

663
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: Not of farm workers. He is best known for being

664
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: sat Eligia's best known for being the patron saint of

665
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: horses and those who work with them. So I figured

666
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: it was tying into the grapes of wrath unionizing thing. No,

667
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,280
Speaker 1: it's a great great joke about him looking looking back

668
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 1: at st Elsewhere and yearning for his old show. Total

669
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 1: meta joke. Oh it's hyster that's what. But that's what's

670
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: so great is that if you are the kids watching

671
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: the show, you're never gonna understand what he meant. If

672
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: you're the adult watching the show, you're going to get

673
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: a metal laugh because he's talking about sat Elsewhere. Right,

674
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: that makes sense? Okay, Well, I'm at least glad to

675
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: know that layer to it, because when I thought it

676
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: was just a joke about the actual pay trans Saint,

677
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: I was like, you have got to be kidding. What

678
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,720
Speaker 1: the hell is happening? Now that was a great joke. Okay,

679
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: if you say so. Mr Phoeney tells Mr Turner that

680
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: the students have demonstrated the power of labor and now

681
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 1: they can show them what management can do. So now

682
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 1: it's basically like, well, I guess our first conversation about

683
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: this about whether or not they learned. We've already shown

684
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: like we have to come up with a new mission,

685
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: a new part to it. Now we've seen what the

686
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: union can do, We've got to show them what management

687
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 1: can do. Mr Turner is amused, by the display of

688
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 1: defiance that's going on, and Turner says, if he were them,

689
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 1: and I were them and they were there, I would

690
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: have done the same thing. And it's I mean yours, Daniel,

691
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: that was Do you want to diagram that sentence? And

692
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 1: he's like, no, I can't. It doesn't make any sense. Yeah,

693
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: Phoene says that as time passes, the defiance will also pass.

694
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: And then we are in the school cafeteria. Corey is

695
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: leading a protest in the cafeteria, saying he no longer

696
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: wants macaroni in the cafeteria. He wants steak with a

697
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 1: lobster side dish. But before we get to the lobster

698
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: side dish, I did you scream macaroni? Do you remember it?

699
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: I mean painfully no, I blocked this. I do remember

700
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 1: learning the song and I knew that we had to

701
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: sing it, But um, yeah, I don't remember liking doing

702
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: this episode at all. Right, and I'm watching it now.

703
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: I can kind of tell why doing so much over

704
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: the time, like the cheerleader things. We're getting there. Why

705
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 1: Can I ask why? Because she doesn't really do anything?

706
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 1: Can I ask why the lunch lady is in the

707
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 1: group of kids again. I think it's just a little

708
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: bit of a joke, that is, without pointing to it

709
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: at all, that she's joined them. She okay, okay, she's

710
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 1: now part of the union. I think as they were

711
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: talking about food, they wanted her there to be also like,

712
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: we can't get steak or lobster like I thought, you're right,

713
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 1: that could that that is something that someone could have

714
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: thought of and made. They could have made a joke

715
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 1: there about or they could have pointed out that's not

716
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: why so I didn't get yeah, so making me like

717
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 1: this episode less and less at half asleep. This is

718
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,959
Speaker 1: a funny episode. I'll try that, just kidding. I could

719
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: never stay up until midnight. Okay. Phoenie, alongside of grinning

720
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 1: Mr Turner shows up with a megaphone and says, since

721
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: they want to play with George Feenie, the seventh grade

722
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: dance is canceled, as well as the entire football season.

723
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 1: Phoenie then clarifies to Sean that that also means no cheerleaders,

724
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 1: and Sean is just heartbroken. They're taking Yeah. Corey explains

725
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: that Shan needs to take sacrifices in a strike, but

726
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 1: Sean is crying, but he's taking my girl girls officially

727
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: horribly girl crazy now because you know, yeah, we hadn't

728
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: even yeah, I mean in the last episode, if I'm

729
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: not mistaken, like two oh three didn't really have a

730
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: whole of Sean with girls stuff. So now you have

731
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: to go back to like two oh one, too oh two,

732
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 1: and remember that Sean is now officially girl crazy. I'm

733
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: having flash forwards of what this podcast is going to

734
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: be like with Writer in certain episodes coming up. I'm

735
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: having forwards of Writer just like aiding this so much

736
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: and just like I don't want to I don't even

737
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: want to talk about it. I don't even want to

738
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 1: talk about it. Yeah, because the truth is, like I

739
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm like horrible, you know, like I'm

740
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: committing I'm doing the thing. Yeah, I just this is

741
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: not what I wanted to be doing as an actor.

742
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: And they were writing these crazy, over the top things

743
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: and I would do it and I would get laugh

744
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: and I would not be having fun, Like I wouldn't

745
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: be enjoying this. But I was doing the thing, and

746
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: you had fun and show nights though, didn't you. I

747
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: mean being in front of the audience and that that

748
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: kind of energy we had and all that stuff. I

749
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: mean that was fun. I remember us enjoying that quite

750
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: a bit. Absolutely, No, there's so much fun stuff. I

751
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: just know that like have to do like you know,

752
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: falling to your knees and screaming about the cheerleaders going

753
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: away like I was probably felt the same way I

754
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: feel now, which is like, what, like is this funny?

755
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't think it's that funny, but

756
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: very just very very quickly so, and not to bring

757
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: Mash into it when I'm going to I've been listening

758
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: to a Mash podcast and one of the things that

759
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 1: struck me so amazing, So it was amazing is they're

760
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: having all the actors come back and they're talking about

761
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: their table reads, and their table reads used to be

762
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: sitting around a table reading the script and then a

763
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: note session. But the note session was the actors giving

764
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 1: the writers all the notes here's what I would do,

765
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 1: here's why my character wouldn't have done this, here's why

766
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: I think, and the writers would sit there quietly and

767
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 1: they take all the notes and they'd go back and

768
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: rewrite the script. Amazing that that sort of give and

769
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 1: take is incredible. Obviously you're dealing with adult, established adult

770
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: comedic actors. Yeah, I mean, if you know, I think

771
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of what I'm feeling is

772
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: just that I didn't feel in control. You know, I

773
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: didn't sure creative control, and I just had to like

774
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 1: perform and do this guy, which you know was the job.

775
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 1: It makes me uncomfortable because I didn't really like it,

776
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: and you know, I didn't like I didn't like this

777
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 1: sort of goofy dumb sean like I didn't like playing dumb.

778
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: I never liked it. Um, it never made sense to me.

779
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: I never was that funny to me, like you know,

780
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: and so it just didn't I don't know, but I

781
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:21,959
Speaker 1: think we're gonna live here for a while, Like if

782
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: I remember my guess again, I think it's going to

783
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: be less time than you think, because they're already showing

784
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: splashes of Eric being dumb, and there was almost no

785
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: time where you and I were dumb together. It was like,

786
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: so they turned work dumb, and then they turned because

787
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: again they probably saw that you were uncomfortable, that you

788
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: didn't like it, that while you were committing it didn't

789
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: seem to work. Whereas when I was playing dumb, I

790
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:44,959
Speaker 1: i liked it like I was. I could just find

791
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,399
Speaker 1: the comedy in it, so they gave it to me.

792
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 1: And then so, I don't think you're gonna live here

793
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: as long as you think you are. Frankly, maybe maybe

794
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: the next few episodes, but it's not gonna last as

795
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: long as you think. I also think dumb. Sean doesn't

796
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 1: isn't as good of a partner for Corey otherwise, sorries

797
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 1: just like like, yeah, what so I think you're right.

798
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: I think well, I think you're right. I think it's

799
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: going to turn back before I'll take the dumb you

800
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: give me the dumb writer. That's when that one set

801
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: of footsteps is when I was carrying you. Mr Phoeney

802
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: gives everyone the opportunity to go back and take the

803
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: test within five seconds, and everyone starts to leave, but

804
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: Corey says Phoeney can't punish the seventh grade class if

805
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: there is no seventh grade class. Corey begins his pro

806
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: union song again and tries to walk out of school,

807
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: and Sean follows him, but Corey asks if anyone following, yeah,

808
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: you guys doing the tune of the union song, start

809
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: having your own conversation about how nobody is following you,

810
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: and Shawn says he wants to go back. This is

811
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,439
Speaker 1: like Ben is barely singing, and yet I remember Ben

812
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: loved musicals. Do you guys remember, Like Ben would say

813
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 1: a lot back. I remember him and Betsy would talk

814
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 1: about musicals all the time. Ben was really into I guess,

815
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: but I'm I'm trying to remember. I guess he didn't

816
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: really sing that much himself. No, I think he just

817
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: liked musical He just liked musicals. But but yeah, because

818
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: he's like barely singing, the Union song doesn't necessarily have

819
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 1: like it's kind of a talking song. It's a chance,

820
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: it's it's meant so a bunch of people can go

821
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: and chant it as opposed to No, it's not melodic,

822
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 1: isn't it. I thought that's what it was. I thought so.

823
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: I think in the original commercial it's like an actual sjingle,

824
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: like it it's a real song. We just made it

825
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: into the sort of chant. Yeah. I maybe it's just

826
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 1: because I only knew your version of it, and you're right,

827
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 1: no one's really singing it. I was kind of thinking like, oh,

828
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: it's it's more of a chant, really quite a song. Yeah,

829
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: me too, well, Corey pulls Sean out of there, and

830
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: the rest of the students are ushered back to class

831
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: by Phoenie and Turner. But now Phoenie says he has

832
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: to go nuclear on Seawan and Corey, and that means

833
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: calling their mommy's. So we're in the school hallway. Eric

834
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: asks Jason how the basketball game was. In case you forgot,

835
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: there's still a Bees story going on, and guess what.

836
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: Guess what's going to happen. She's going to be awful

837
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: and he's gone same scene basically just a new location,

838
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: is it? I just it's exactly the same location that

839
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: the last scene took place. There was also the scene

840
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 1: in the kitchen, so I don't necessarily know. You know,

841
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 1: she's been awful in the kitchen, She's been awful in

842
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: the hallway. She's now awful in the hallway again. Um,

843
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: So Jason asks if Eric is in for the next

844
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: game or if they have to find a replacement, and

845
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: then Desiree just steps directly in front of Jason and

846
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: asks Eric if they can go to a new mall

847
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,879
Speaker 1: on Thursday, and Jason acts like she's a vampire behind her.

848
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: Eric asked little, a little big, but you know what. Okay, Uh,

849
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: he's trying to save it. He's trying to save it,

850
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 1: is what he's doing. He's trying to save the grounded story.

851
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: You know, he's trying to save the comedy though you

852
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: could tell so. Eric asks if they can go on

853
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: another day because she plays basketball on Thursdays, but Desire

854
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 1: says she prefers Thursday. Eric stands up to Desire, telling

855
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: Jason he'll play basketball on Thursday. Eric says he's been

856
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: her slave for a month and asks what he was

857
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: ever going to get out of it, and then Desiree

858
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 1: French kisses Eric and says goodbye forever. And then you

859
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: guys decide that you're in agreement that you're an idiot

860
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 1: for breaking up with her because you have gotten could

861
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 1: have gotten more kisses, because girls, because girl, Yeah, I

862
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,399
Speaker 1: honestly do not remember kissing this woman at all. I

863
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 1: was going to ask you if Jill was jealous. I

864
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: honestly don't remember kissing this girl at all. I have

865
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 1: not know when she kissed. I was like, huh, yes,

866
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,879
Speaker 1: we kissed. Your sleeping wife was next to you, and

867
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 1: you're like, hey, I don't this lady, she's sound asleep

868
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: by this point, thank god, No, it was. Yeah, it's

869
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: it's so strange. You just don't. It happens so often,

870
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 1: you know, there's actors that come up and you're like, oh,

871
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,919
Speaker 1: I guess we kissed. It's so strange. Yeah, very weird.

872
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, I just thought that you guys agreeing that

873
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: this was a bad move when she was so awful. Truly,

874
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: there is not one redeeming quality about her except for

875
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: the fact that she has lips. And so now anyway,

876
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 1: she arguably the worst character in the history of the show. Yeah,

877
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 1: but that is I mean again, even bad characters we've

878
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 1: had on usually have something about them. They're funny or

879
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:38,760
Speaker 1: there's some something. She had nothing, There was nothing there. Yeah,

880
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: I I'm not going to disagree with you. I'm not

881
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: going to disagree with you until this point. I mean,

882
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: maybe I'll change my mind as we see more characters.

883
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, I feel and again, it is not Sydney

884
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: Bennett's fault, it's not at all. Yeah, I just want

885
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: to make sure we are not the actor's fault at all.

886
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: The way the character is written, she's just terrible. Yeah.

887
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: So in the Matthew his family living room, Corey and

888
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: Shawn are watching TV. Corey is confused why every channel

889
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 1: is covering the missing bomb story and not their school

890
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: walk out. Funny Allen and Amy enter and asked Corey

891
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 1: and Shawn what Rusty. Finally, so they asked, and do

892
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: you because you're not in this episode at all, and like,

893
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: are you ever in Tony's classroom? Are you in Mr

894
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:27,280
Speaker 1: Turner's class Ever? I do eventually join Mr Turner's classroom.

895
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's this season or if it's

896
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:32,720
Speaker 1: season three, but I do eventually join Turner's classroom. Interesting,

897
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: I'm so curious if you'll just like pop up in

898
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: the classroom later, like I think, Yeah, I think I

899
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: pop up in the front row, just directly in front

900
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: of Yeah, just always been there when we were singing

901
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: the songs. I'm also guessing, I thought, And I bet

902
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 1: you this is true budgetary wise, whenever Eric has in

903
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: season two, at least, whenever Eric has a storyline where

904
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: there's multiple guest casts, you won't be on the show,

905
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: right because if there's Jason and Sydney, then there's no topend.

906
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: And you know, I think most people will will agree

907
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: that Sydney in the scope of Boy Meets World are

908
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: are World is more important than essential to Eric's development?

909
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: More Boy Meets World have been without right, So yeah,

910
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: Amy and Allen enter and asked Corey and Sean what

911
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 1: they were thinking starting a strike over a test and

912
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: walking out of school. Sean says that maybe what they

913
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: did wasn't very smart, but at least they stood up

914
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: for their principles, and when Alan asks what their principles

915
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 1: will were, Shawn says he remembers something about macar It

916
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: was great. No, it should have been more real. I

917
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 1: don't know what I liked it. I thought it was funny.

918
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 1: I thought it was funny. And Mr Turner appears at

919
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,919
Speaker 1: the front door to talk to Sean, Haffa, and Costello

920
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: as a line from Rusties really really nailing home the

921
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: jokes to those seven year olds watching the show. Yes, exactly,

922
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: they are making sure they're keeping it timely. How about

923
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 1: the way Tony's holding that helmet, oh man, like after

924
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:12,879
Speaker 1: this time, like and he does it the whole scene. Yeah,

925
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: it's like, that's not the way you would carry that

926
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 1: kind of helmet, Like I would see if there's a

927
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 1: full face helmet, you'd carry it like that. But like

928
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: you would grab this one by the and in the suburbs,

929
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 1: don't carry your helmet, you hang it on the handlebars

930
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 1: and walk inside. But how else are they going to

931
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: get the cool reference from Amy? Like? How else was

932
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: she going to know that he was a cool teacher?

933
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: Did you think for a second and he was going

934
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 1: to flirt with this, there's going to be some kind

935
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: of this is your teacher like something like that. I

936
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 1: was waiting for that, and you know that maybe they

937
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,959
Speaker 1: considered it for it would have been inappropriate. I thought

938
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: that safe thing. Yeah, But again, like when we talked

939
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 1: about the other episode, the episode where Eric is in

940
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: their bedroom with a girl and he has Alan has

941
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 1: that whole thing about I couldn't be having an affair.

942
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,839
Speaker 1: I'm not, but I could be. Why isn't it Why

943
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 1: couldn't Amy have made the joke of like and then

944
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 1: Alan be like, excuse me, Like, why couldn't they have

945
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 1: done something like that? But anyway they didn't, I would

946
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 1: have been inappropriate if as a woman showing up in Alan,

947
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 1: you're right the other way, Okay, Yeah, you're right, you're right, Okay, Um,

948
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 1: but yes, I did think that was going to happen.

949
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: And then so um, we're in the Matthews kitchen. Corey says,

950
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: the grapes of Wrath taught them to fight for their rights,

951
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 1: which is what they went on strike for, and now

952
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 1: they're in trouble for it. And uh. He says, this

953
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:41,919
Speaker 1: is what happens when the little guys try to stand

954
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: up to the bosses. And Mr. Turner says, no, they

955
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 1: threw a hissy fit and walked out. They couldn't go

956
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: on strike because they don't even have jobs. Their parents

957
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: make their lunch and they sleep on sheets with little dinosaurs,

958
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: and Corey corrects him that it is rocket ships. Rocket ships.

959
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: It was great. It was I thought that was pretty

960
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 1: cute because I was thinking, where did the dinosaur T

961
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 1: shirts go? We've lost dinosaur T shirt? So he says

962
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: they are two kids playing over their heads. Turner explains

963
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: they can go to school where they are protected and

964
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: abide by the rules, but then Alan walks in says,

965
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 1: or they can go take an immediate test in the

966
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 1: real world, which is find a job or starve. Corey

967
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 1: says they'll go talk to feeny and Turner warns them

968
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 1: that Feenie isn't going away. He's going to be around

969
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: every corner and then Turner turns around and notices that

970
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: Mr Feenie is right there in the backyard working on

971
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 1: his garden, and he says, did you know you have

972
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 1: a principal living next door? And Alan responds, it's not

973
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: something we brag about. And then they go into the backyard.

974
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: Mr Turner walks outside outside and says, you live next

975
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 1: door to Matthew's, which and we get the joke or

976
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 1: turn uh whole this whole episode of just watching Writer,

977
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: it's great. Yeah, there's something off for me about this

978
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 1: whole episode. I mean honestly, honestly, a lot of it

979
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: is like insecurity, Like I just feel so goofy and

980
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: like not in control of my body or my face

981
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: or my voice. So I just I'm getting awkward with that,

982
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 1: like uncomfortable with that. I can see the acne starting,

983
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,760
Speaker 1: Like I know it's coming in the next couple of seasons.

984
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: It's gonna I'm just gonna hate watching myself on the show.

985
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 1: But uh, that that that That's mostly what I'm reacting

986
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: to in my storyline. But the Desiree stuff, I just

987
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 1: think is is really bad. Like I just think it's

988
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 1: it's the dumbest storyline. It's it's like it's just ringing

989
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:35,760
Speaker 1: it over and over again, trying to find the funny,

990
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,240
Speaker 1: and it's not getting any funnier. It's just getting worse

991
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,280
Speaker 1: and painful. Um So that that part I can definitely

992
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 1: say I did not like at all. And I think

993
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 1: for me it's actually the opposite. I think that this

994
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 1: a storyline is so painful to me because it feels

995
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:56,359
Speaker 1: like such concocted like nothingness that and and and it

996
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,760
Speaker 1: also isn't funny. I feel very much like a little

997
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,720
Speaker 1: bit on the side of Corey and Sewn, like, yeah,

998
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 1: why did you guys do all this? They they said, hey, listen,

999
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: what do we need to know for a test? And

1000
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 1: their teacher told them, don't worry about a test. I

1001
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 1: just want you to study. And then so then they

1002
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,479
Speaker 1: did study, and then they were had a test thrown

1003
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,359
Speaker 1: at them, and now these two are in trouble and

1004
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,879
Speaker 1: for what like it is I just And then as

1005
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 1: as an aside to that, I also don't think the

1006
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:25,879
Speaker 1: B story is very funny. So it's like, I feel

1007
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 1: like this whole episode, I'm just looking for something to

1008
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: feel good or funny, and I'm like, well, it's just

1009
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: not working for me anyway. As I said from the beginning,

1010
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 1: I did not like this episode. It's one of my

1011
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 1: least favorite boat I agree. So Mr Turner says the

1012
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 1: boys have something to apologize for. Corey says, they read

1013
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:48,839
Speaker 1: the book and they learned that you should fight back

1014
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 1: for what you think is unfair. But they don't relate

1015
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 1: to the book because they're not out in the real

1016
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 1: world yet there's the stakes are much higher than their lives.

1017
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 1: Mr Feeney can tell Corey and Sewan actually read the

1018
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,720
Speaker 1: book and he will take that into consideration. Poenie admits

1019
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: Corey and Shawn sound like they know the material. Mr

1020
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 1: Turner says, yet, and we found that out without a test.

1021
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 1: But phoene says that everything that happened was a test,

1022
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:16,240
Speaker 1: and Turner says, well, I'd call it a learning experience.

1023
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 1: And then thanks Mr Feenie. They seemed to share a

1024
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 1: moment as co workers. And I don't understand why who

1025
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 1: learned what? Who learned? What? Why is Tony saying, you

1026
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: know what? Thank you, George. The learning experience that happened

1027
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:38,720
Speaker 1: was that Turner was right. Maybe he's thanking him because

1028
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, Phoenie took his advice

1029
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: and they didn't give them the test, and the test

1030
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: that he gave them was just right there as opposed

1031
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: to the paper tests. So he's like kind of saying

1032
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 1: to him, hey, you did you listen to me and

1033
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: you learned from me and I appreciate that. Thank you, George.

1034
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 1: Or maybe it's not that at all. Maybe I mean

1035
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 1: he did say at the end, Phoenie did say, it

1036
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:04,319
Speaker 1: does seem as though you've taken you've you've studied, So

1037
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 1: I will take that into consideration. So maybe his thank

1038
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: you is less about thank you for creating this big

1039
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 1: hoop law in this episode in the next for for

1040
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 1: even though you're the old school teacher, you've given me

1041
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 1: the opportunity to show you that there your way is

1042
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 1: not always the right way, and I might have something

1043
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 1: to offer to Okay, I'll take that. I'll take that.

1044
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 1: I read it as thank you for this episode. And

1045
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: I was like, this episode resolution with no actual resolution. Well,

1046
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 1: when they want to resolve something on this show, they

1047
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 1: just play the music and throw off the yes friends.

1048
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 1: Now happens several times. He's just gonna go all right,

1049
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 1: I guess we're done there, we go it's it's resolved

1050
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 1: because they're frozen, and it says created by Michael Jacobs.

1051
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 1: So our tag is in the school hallway. Eric is

1052
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Speaker 1: free of Desiree and ready to play basketball, and he

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Speaker 1: is also in their uniform of shorts over sweatpants. I'm

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Speaker 1: shorted up. Jason isn't dressed to play. He says he's

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Speaker 1: too petite to play anyway, and then a pager goes

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Speaker 1: off and Eric is confused, but Jason says it's his pacemaker.

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Speaker 1: Eric notices Desire's pink pager on Jason's belt. Desiree walks

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Speaker 1: over and calls Jason her raisinet, and as Desiree leaves,

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Speaker 1: Jason jokes and says he's only in it for the breakup. Kissa,

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Speaker 1: what has the panga been doing? I think we really

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Speaker 1: needed to delve into Desiree in this episode, Danielle, and

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Speaker 1: I think we needed to be not always about Penga.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes we needed more about Georgia, Peach and Desiree. Desiree

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Speaker 1: is a strong woman standing up for her rights. Oh boy, alright, well,

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Speaker 1: she woke up just in time to say what the

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Speaker 1: hell is she wearing as she walked down? Okay, but

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Speaker 1: if we're talking about like what is the redeeming quality

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Speaker 1: of her character, it seems like they just want to

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Speaker 1: put her She looks like a dominatrix walking down. She

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Speaker 1: was like a caller on. I was like whoa, and

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Speaker 1: just like I said, what high school student is wearing

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Speaker 1: thigh high boot. Yeah, she's like just sort of carrying

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Speaker 1: a writing crop walking down like whoafe. I just hear

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Speaker 1: the man. But I feel like that was the point

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Speaker 1: of this character. Like it's just but again, they could

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Speaker 1: have you know, I think this is a really weird

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Speaker 1: pushing it too far sexually, but they could have gone

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Speaker 1: farther comedy wise, that way, if they wanted to almost

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Speaker 1: dominatrix crazy kind of a joke out of it, right,

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Speaker 1: That's what I mean. Make it more of a joke

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Speaker 1: where it's just insane kind of it would have been

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Speaker 1: that would have been inappropriate. It's all inappropriate. None of

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Speaker 1: it's appropriate. It's it's too I mean, the whole story

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Speaker 1: line is pretty terrible. But like I said earlier, there

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Speaker 1: there is a version of like, you know, giving up

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Speaker 1: your cell to be with a woman or an older

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Speaker 1: woman that you know that gives you status. There's a

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Speaker 1: version of that that could have been hysterical, of course,

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Speaker 1: the slow erosion of Eric's character or the slow erosion

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Speaker 1: of Jason's character, And instead it's just this over the top,

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Speaker 1: ridiculous joke, one note character, one note situation, and the

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Speaker 1: note is that the note is off key. It's okay

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Speaker 1: if it's one note and the note is amazing. It wasn't.

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Speaker 1: It's one note and it was a bad note. Wait,

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Speaker 1: so let's go back really quick to the backyard scene

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Speaker 1: with Phoenie. I'm sorry, with Turner and Phoenie. And instead

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Speaker 1: of Turner standing there having that conversation with Phoenie, imagine

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Speaker 1: it being Corey and this being a season one episode

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Speaker 1: where Corey goes where Corey is like, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I hey, we did it without doing a test,

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Speaker 1: and Phoenie says, but did we? And Corey e then

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Speaker 1: says thank you, Mr Phoenie exactly. That's what I'm saying. Like,

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Speaker 1: it felt like it could have been a a Phoenie

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Speaker 1: being smarter than Corey episode rather than a Phoenie somehow

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Speaker 1: have in the upper hand power dynamic with Turner and

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Speaker 1: like you're going to earn my respect. I don't know

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Speaker 1: it just that was the discussion that producer Jensen carpet

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Speaker 1: I had last No, I think I think I think

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Speaker 1: the point is that the episode is trying to have

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Speaker 1: it both ways, which is it's trying to have conflict

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Speaker 1: between Turner and Phoenie but still have Phoenie be the

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Speaker 1: all knowing, perfect teacher, right, and that that actually is

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Speaker 1: way less interesting than having Phoenie adjust to Turner, which

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Speaker 1: would have been way better. That's what they tried to

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Speaker 1: do though, that's why try to do that. It just

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Speaker 1: wasn't written right. They resolved it by just making Phoenie

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Speaker 1: this was all part of his master plan, which just

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Speaker 1: doesn't feel right. I think it's impossible, that's not you know.

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Speaker 1: And also, and I think with Danielle is saying she's right,

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Speaker 1: because what what what he was saying with the whole

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Speaker 1: I'll take you know, we did write the material, and

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Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, I can tell you did that, and

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take that under advisement. It's Phenie kind of

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Speaker 1: saying giving Jonathan one like yes, I get okay, maybe

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Speaker 1: your ways aren't awful. Again, it was written poorly, but

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Speaker 1: the way that's what I think they were attempting to do. Um,

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Speaker 1: it was supposed to be old school versus new school

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Speaker 1: and one way is better than the other. No, maybe

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Speaker 1: we meet in the middle and we find out that

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Speaker 1: there's new things. That's what they were trying to do,

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Speaker 1: And I just don't think that hit at all with

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Speaker 1: the more. I gotta watch it in the light of

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Speaker 1: day again. Um or just right, that's exactly right. Scom

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Speaker 1: has ups and downs. Daniel is probably one of the

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Speaker 1: first episodes where she's like, you know what, I'm really

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Speaker 1: glad about. I'm not in this episode. I was not

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Speaker 1: I'm not unhappy. Our next episode is season two, episode five,

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Speaker 1: The Uninvited. It aired October one. Thank you all for

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Speaker 1: joining us for this episode of pod Meets World. You

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Speaker 1: and Ryder Strong. Executive producers Jensen carp and, Amy Sugarman,

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