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Speaker 1: This week is with none other than the legend I'm

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Speaker 1: waving my finger and wagging my finger at you The

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Speaker 1: Ken Bay, Matombo.

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Speaker 2: Now, this is one of the most fun.

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Speaker 1: And enjoyable episodes we ever had during the early period

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Speaker 1: of COVID.

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Speaker 2: Man the Ken Bay was so cool with us. Man.

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Speaker 1: He chopped it up about how he went to Georgetown,

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Speaker 1: he went on an academic scholarship, then how coach John

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Speaker 1: Thompson got him to start hooping. Man, he had an

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Speaker 1: incredible career in the league, as we all know. But

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Speaker 1: The Ken Bay was like one of our all time episodes.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it was kind of one of them, unexpected,

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Speaker 1: like hilarious fun was Man.

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Speaker 3: One of the guys embraced us right away, always been

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Speaker 3: a good guy, loved to smile, he was always smiling,

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Speaker 3: but he was fierce on the court.

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Speaker 2: Loved playing against him.

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Speaker 3: So shout out to him or ip to him, and

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Speaker 3: hope y'all enjoy this episode because it's one of our favorite.

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Speaker 1: Rest in peace to the Ken Bay, much love to

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Speaker 1: him and his family. Man, we love you, we miss you,

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Speaker 1: and here's to you the Ken Day. This episode published

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Speaker 1: on August twenty fifth, twenty twenty. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you get that black. Yeah, you're doing it back

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Speaker 2: for good one right here. Check it out?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 2: What are our classes?

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Speaker 3: We play a game on here called start Bench Cut,

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Speaker 3: Start Bench Cut?

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Speaker 2: Who would you start? Who would you bench? Who would

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Speaker 2: you cut? Patrick Ewing Alonzo Morning out.

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Speaker 5: Shaquille O'Neill take this question.

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Speaker 1: Yo yo yo, live on location me and d Miles

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Speaker 1: out here in Orlando staying our ass at home, and say,

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Speaker 1: we got a very special guest by way of the Congo.

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Speaker 1: We got the pride of the Congo. We got mister

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Speaker 1: No No No himself coming to us live in direction

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Speaker 1: atl Shawty. We got the kem Bae Mutombo Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame pulling up with us, y'all and if your play around,

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Speaker 1: he gonna slap it up out of there. Appreciate you

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Speaker 1: coming through with us, big og.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much, Thanks for having.

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Speaker 3: You grew up in Congo and you started so martial

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Speaker 3: arts first, Like what was that?

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Speaker 4: Like? Yes, because there was nothing else to do. Those

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Speaker 4: was the two sports that was available in my neighborhood. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: the closest basketball court in the neighborhood wasn't now where

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Speaker 4: by bus? Whoa from where I grew up? So you

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Speaker 4: and you don't came home like I'm till like ten pm.

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Speaker 4: And it was too danger to work in the neighborhood.

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Speaker 4: And my father did it like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you didn't start, You didn't find, like, really

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Speaker 4: No, my brother was over playing for the national team, right.

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Speaker 4: It was a big star in a country, He was

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Speaker 4: people would ask him why your youngest brother doesn't play.

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Speaker 4: It's taller than you. And my brother would be like,

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Speaker 4: y'all leaving alone. So I was so streaty and I

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Speaker 3: Man, What was it about basketball that you wanted to

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Speaker 2: With that that you fell in love with?

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Speaker 4: I really didn't like basketball for a long time.

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Speaker 4: I watched my brother playing when I was younger. I

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Speaker 4: always trund that basketball was too balanced. People was always

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Speaker 4: So you have to do why. So that was and

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Speaker 4: I think it's a why I did like sports so good.

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Speaker 3: John Thompson is a coach that I always wanted to

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Speaker 2: Past John he came.

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Speaker 3: If he can't talk to me, I'm talking about I've

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Speaker 3: the opportunity to go to Georgetown, be with John Thompson

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Speaker 3: and uh the history that was there before you.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: How was it trusting John Thompson and and and being

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Speaker 4: You know, you know when I came to Georgetown, I

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Speaker 2: I didn't know that. Wait, I never knew that. So

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Speaker 2: you you so you weren't recruited to go there.

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Speaker 1: By the I was not like you guys, man you

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Speaker 2: Right now I just found yere. I need to know this.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I was not recruited. I did get the US

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Speaker 4: government scholarship to come study medicine at Georgetown, so I

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Speaker 4: have had SLF so well as a student. When I

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Speaker 4: or seven scholarship. It was a Georgetown, Kentucky, Syracuse, Indiana, States,

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Speaker 4: Saint John there was like another school. But my father

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Speaker 3: Big story. How did John Thompson approach you?

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Speaker 4: You know? When I was coming. When I was coming,

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Speaker 4: I'll come to you another basketball team. I'm not I'm

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 1: That is amazing. I never knew that. I thought you

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Speaker 2: And the program that you that you kind of helped us, it.

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Speaker 4: Was small, like so I think that my studies that

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Speaker 4: like a Dirk Ray. How you to tell my dad

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So, so that just speaks volumes about about how

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Speaker 1: but to Georgetown, which is I mean, people that's going

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Speaker 3: That na for real, somebody like you have Alonzo morning

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, how does that mean him the US?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know the man man. He's a great guy.

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Speaker 4: He's a great friend, grave roommate. We have a great

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Speaker 4: I was foolful man, I was all right, yeah, I'm

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Speaker 4: telling you man, my freshman year I was awful. Man. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, And that helped your games like miles ahead,

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Speaker 3: it made you.

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Speaker 2: Better better every day? Yes, straight up, straight up that's love.

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Speaker 1: So so, so while you set out your freshman year,

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Speaker 2: Did you play anything? You play?

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Speaker 1: Play like just work out on your loan or how

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Speaker 1: did you you know prepare like when you said you

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Speaker 4: I'll grab you ask me that question. I used to

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Speaker 1: He he ot there with the Inner Mural's cloud clout

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Speaker 4: You are if you click on YouTube, that's that's a

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Speaker 2: We gotta find that team. Gotta find that. We gotta

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Speaker 3: You did some summer intern at the US Congress. You

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Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like, how many students do that

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Speaker 3: at the World Bank? Like that's like that's who does that?

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Speaker 2: Like like like using a student?

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Speaker 4: Do that?

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Speaker 2: Not? No students? You know what I'm saying. And that's

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Speaker 4: Oh I love political science. I love politics because when

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Speaker 4: I think it was let February oh Marsh nineteen eighty nine.

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Speaker 4: The only thing he does I was my African player.

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Speaker 1: Who hasn't been playing at all, he has been Where

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Speaker 2: That's what's up.

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Speaker 3: That's awesome when you when you decided to go to

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Speaker 3: What was that feeling like to hear that the NBA,

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Speaker 4: I couldn't believe it. I give credit to Patrick your

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Speaker 2: Playfall play.

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Speaker 3: Y'all, y'all three of the greatest centers ever to play

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Speaker 4: It won't fight every day.

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Speaker 4: Enjoyer Man. I enjoyed those states Man, I enjoyed it.

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Speaker 1: Tell me how accomplished that you feel as far as

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Speaker 2: You know, the momentum is building around you.

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Speaker 1: But but you get to your senior year and coach

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Speaker 2: Later, here you are established.

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Speaker 4: I'm ready for the challenge, I'm ready for the responsibility

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Speaker 3: Did you think you was gonna get drafted by anybody else?

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Speaker 3: Did you think you knew it was the Denver Nuggets

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Speaker 4: Good question? Good question. I really want to go to

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Speaker 4: They was not looking at me, like now the j

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Speaker 4: He said no to Jabe, I'm sorry, I like like

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Speaker 4: Maybe though you are good, but we're gonna pick like Johnson.

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Speaker 4: I was like, fine, Yeah. When I knew Charlotte was

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Speaker 1: You get to make those moves when you got the

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Speaker 4: You got that. I have the big weights with me

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Speaker 6: But I told them I'm not coming. I said, I

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Speaker 3: So you just you knew who you wanted and that's

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Speaker 4: I want to go to Rockett.

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Speaker 3: Yes, So when you when you got to Denver, Denver

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Speaker 4: Man, It's beautiful all season. Man. Waking up in the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how was that for you?

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Speaker 4: Oh it was crazy. Useuld see this the first down

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Speaker 4: Everybody was like, I forgot, I forgot it's snowing outside.

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Speaker 4: I was like, oh yeah, I didn't have no gloves,

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Speaker 4: I was you know.

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Speaker 3: When you when you got when you got to the league,

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Speaker 3: right away with your defense. And like you say, John

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Speaker 3: But it got when you was there, didn't get to

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Speaker 2: That ship up. No.

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Speaker 3: No, you have people, you had people on your list

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Speaker 2: He was like, I'm finn, I'm gonna get his ass.

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Speaker 4: I think that Michael was there. You know, Michael was

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Speaker 4: Any rookies, I mean in rookie do you know that

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Speaker 4: Do you know why I got to that point? You

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Speaker 4: C to spend there three days with me, just walking

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00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 4: around with me. I didn't I didn't say that he

442
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 4: took me to the basketball court. He just came in.

443
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 4: He said, no, I don't know time to show you

444
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 4: nothing in the basketball court. Gord Tompson did that already,

445
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 4: Patrick you and he did that already you and now

446
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 4: we're going to take a walk. You have breakfast, you

447
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 4: have lunch together, and you have dinner, and we're just

448
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 4: going to talk. He said, I want to get inside

449
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 4: your head. I want to see are you ready for

450
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 4: the next level? And I want to know what is

451
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 4: missing so I can't tell it. So we spent by

452
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 4: two days and a half and we talked, we talk,

453
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 4: we walk and he told me there's two things you

454
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 4: can do in the NBA and everybody will remember more

455
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 4: than the people who scrub. Pip went for the work.

456
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 4: He said to came, you got there. You get more

457
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 4: than twelve or fifteen ravens a game and more than

458
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 4: three to five blocks that they die. You will be

459
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 4: remembered as one of the monster defensive players and played

460
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 4: this game, and you will win everything. I trust the

461
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 4: man because you know what, because you have eleven ringing

462
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 4: ten figure.

463
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: Hey, yeah, I cannot be that. That's the blueprint right there. Yes,

464
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: it really helped mes a lot. He helped me. I

465
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: always say that.

466
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 4: My mental toughness of playing the game defensively came from

467
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 4: Goods Thompson, who played with Bill Russell. And it will

468
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 4: invite Bill Russell To also taught me to give me something,

469
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,959
Speaker 4: so I did have a combination of the two guys.

470
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, tell me this. How did you feel like you?

471
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: You come in like you said, you wanted a few rookies,

472
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: You dominate the league defensively, You make All Star team.

473
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 2: Me and Deaker. Remember all this.

474
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: By the way, we kids watching all this happening, like, man,

475
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: this dude come out of nowhere. But like so nineteen

476
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: ninety three, how how does it feel when you like

477
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: you said, you were a kid from Congo, You were

478
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: up poor, didn't even have really shoes all the time.

479
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 2: And now d just tell you.

480
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 4: The period I used to wear my brother tennis shops

481
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 4: to go to school. I was rasing sides fifty and

482
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 4: my brother was Wayne Thrieve and I had to cut

483
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 4: the front of his shoer so my thoughts can't sup

484
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 4: so I can't go to school.

485
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 2: Man, that was that was just the new sandals, new

486
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 2: sandals about it. You used to have your time? Tell

487
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 2: you no easy, ain't have nothing. No, you've been doing this.

488
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 4: Man from love wear man, trust to be.

489
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 2: I come fromwhere That's what I'm saying.

490
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: Like you now, now you get to ninety three, and

491
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: you get you get a big time company, you get

492
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: a you get a Adidas coming to you saying that

493
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: we want to make give you your own shoe, Like

494
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: what is that?

495
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 2: Like? How does what are you thinking when you find

496
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 2: that out?

497
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: Like I'm about to get my own shoe like one

498
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: you centers don't even get shoes, Like centers don't even

499
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: like you, you get.

500
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 4: What you're trying to say, say that I know part

501
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 4: of the NBA. No I think. I think Patrick you

502
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 4: and was one of the big center to you have

503
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 4: his own shoes. So when I can, I kind of

504
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 4: followed our bath little man. I was lucky I did.

505
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 4: That's walk to me, was like, we want to create

506
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 4: the shoes for you. I said shoes. I was like, oh,

507
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 4: cap what a you're gonna call it? They said we're

508
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 4: gonna call it my more umbo. I said, mamba tumbo suits.

509
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 4: I said, that's something cool. And it was a good

510
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 4: success man for somebody who came from my car, who

511
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 4: didn't dream so much about playing the game and again

512
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 4: came to you and I ended up I'm breasting the game.

513
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 4: And I took Silians in the game to becoming successful.

514
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 4: So everything that was coming I knew that I deserve

515
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 4: m hmm. And then yeah, that was dope. Man.

516
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: I remember they came out they had the African, the

517
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: colors and the.

518
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was.

519
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: Like they was unique on so many levels, and it

520
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: was that was that was that was a capsule.

521
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 3: Right there in ninety four, y'all make the playoffs, eighty

522
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 3: c y'all just getting get in the door. You're playing

523
00:32:54,920 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 3: the SuperSonics, y'all playing Rainman and the Glove. All I

524
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 3: remember and they still show this highlight to this day is.

525
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 2: When you grab that last rebound. The joy, the joy

526
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 2: in your face, the joy in your face. Is that's

527
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,719
Speaker 2: what basketball is all about.

528
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 3: Like that, it seemed like it was so much hard

529
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 3: work and so much accomplished, so much of you believing

530
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 3: that y'all can actually do it and beat this this

531
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 3: number one seed, something that haven't been done, you know

532
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So how did that feel that moment

533
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 3: that series? Like, how was that when did y'all believe that,

534
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 3: oh shit, we could fuck around and get them for real?

535
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 4: We were playing against one of the best team in

536
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 4: the NBA. About that, and there was a team that

537
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 4: won more than sixty nine games. Yeah, from the regular season,

538
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 4: so we worked considered as a team that was going

539
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 4: to get swap.

540
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

541
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 4: After the second game, our coach that Isle, who play

542
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 4: also from the Devil Nagets, someone that admires so much games,

543
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 4: a wonderful speech in the lack of He said, guys,

544
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 4: you guys have nothing to lose. You deserve to be here.

545
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 4: We not lose. People will be proud of you for

546
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 4: making the playoffs. Nobody didn't think the definition was gonna

547
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 4: make the playoffs, but you already here. All you have

548
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 4: to do just go out there, do whatever you have

549
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 4: to do and leave everything on the basketball court. He said, guys,

550
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 4: I'm so proud of you. Guys. If you lose a game,

551
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 4: I'm still gonna be proud of you. If you win,

552
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be much proud of you. Just let's go

553
00:34:52,680 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 4: out and fight. And five minutes before the game start,

554
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 4: ball boy walk in the locker room taught us that

555
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:10,399
Speaker 4: they see Seato super Sonic. You have to check out

556
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 4: from the hotel and the pilot and the flat that

557
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 4: already in the airport they are leaving. After the game.

558
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 4: That Issa was like, what, we got two hours to

559
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 4: play the basketball game and these people already check out,

560
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 4: So they're gonna kick our ass and they're gonna go home. Yeah,

561
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 4: that's when the fire went so high in the locker room.

562
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 4: Everybody was like, we are going there to fight. If

563
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 4: we go to Dina Court, we are going to dinoc

564
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 4: And that's what made us to kill them.

565
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 2: That's awesome, man, that's that's that's crazy. That's graaty Now

566
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,879
Speaker 2: y'all kick their ass and now the history of yach

567
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 2: with and going home.

568
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 4: You know, and beating them on game five, it was

569
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 4: one of the emotional Philly that any player can have.

570
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 4: At that moment, I didn't think that ball was going

571
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 4: to come my way, but I was lucky to grab

572
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:27,760
Speaker 4: the last YbO And then when they when they clocked

573
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 4: us working, I was like, oh my god, we are gone.

574
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 2: This is good. It's been good. We won one. Now

575
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 2: only did we get brother to get in here. We

576
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 2: beat the number one. Y'all fucked up the playoffs that year.

577
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 2: Fucked up the playoffs.

578
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 3: Everybody looking at Seattle like they kicked ass all.

579
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 2: You're in y'all, Yeah, that's.

580
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 4: What we all want. The second round that we lost

581
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 4: in game seven, I think they beat us three games straight.

582
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 4: We came down straight.

583
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we.

584
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 3: Knowing knowing what Denver mean to you when they didn't

585
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:11,720
Speaker 3: sign you back.

586
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 2: How did that feel?

587
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 3: What was that feeling like when when the team he

588
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 3: was like, I could play here forever.

589
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 2: I'm here. I'm cool with where I'm at.

590
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 3: But you know the business of of of basketball, you

591
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 3: know the politics, the part we don't really want to

592
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 3: talk about or really get too much deep into it

593
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 3: always come into everybody's career to play this game to you?

594
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:42,439
Speaker 2: Was coming off Defensive Player of the Year that year too? Yes, yes, yeah, uh.

595
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 4: I was heartbroken. It took me five or.

596
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 2: Really because.

597
00:37:55,640 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 4: I was their franchise. The was not doing well before

598
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 4: I got there. Suddenly I came in, we start winning,

599
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 4: We made the playoffs, and we made the playoffs again,

600
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 4: and I ended up winning Defense Level the year twice

601
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 4: and I ended up making the All Star Game three times.

602
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 4: So I knew that I had become the face of

603
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 4: their FRANCHISEE so their franchise need me to keep moving forward.

604
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 4: Then when I got when I didn't get a call,

605
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 4: and by coming back, I was like, what happened to me?

606
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 4: Here was a man of good enough to be somebody

607
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 4: ever again? And I get a call the next day.

608
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 4: That time Atlanta House was offering me more money than anybody.

609
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 4: Then I went to Atlanta. But it was a long

610
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 4: healing moment to leave Denver. But that you know, as

611
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 4: you said, Mars, it's one of their business man, it's

612
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 4: one of politics. We cannot get on this. They shake

613
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 4: your hands today. The next day they.

614
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 2: Said, ah, you really know the meaning of the word business.

615
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 2: Fucking with them. So wait.

616
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: So Denver never even out for the contract. They never

617
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: even did any.

618
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 4: They didn't even call me to come sit down and

619
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:41,280
Speaker 4: talk to ask me what you want. There was black

620
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 4: we know, gonna sign you on the last day when

621
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 4: we lost the last game. Right away there was a

622
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 4: nat on the new Spepper. They did not get I'm

623
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 4: not gonna sign. They came before even that season was finished.

624
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 4: I was like, I don't know what the media is

625
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 4: talking about. This is my time. I'm not going nowhere. Myself,

626
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 4: I was like, I'm not going nowhere because I just

627
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 4: got married that year, and if we built that, you all,

628
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 4: my wife and I built the beautiful, all me damn plan.

629
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 4: So we're just living their house like for six months.

630
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 4: So I was so excited and then next time I

631
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 4: knew it, there was like, oh, you know, coming back,

632
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 4: so I had to sell their house and ship everything out.

633
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,720
Speaker 4: It's one of the business man. We can't set hands.

634
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 4: It's business.

635
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: Nothing like you said, though, Ge, Like it's crazy you

636
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: you say, because I was in the same scenario. I

637
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 1: had just signed a I signed my six year deal

638
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: with Phoenix, Yes, and same scenario like I'm renting the

639
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: house for this for the whole year because I had

640
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 1: built the house. I had a house built, so like

641
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 1: they had. They had put me like in a little

642
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 1: rental house for that year. So every day come home

643
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 1: to and front price, I'm looking at the crib, looking

644
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 1: at the house getting built.

645
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 2: Crazy big crib crib get completed.

646
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,919
Speaker 1: I get traded, like literally, y'all get traded the week

647
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: before they filled my pool up. I was so hurt

648
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: and like, I don't know, I think I was more

649
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: hurt about not getting to live in the crib than

650
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:20,240
Speaker 1: really getting traded.

651
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 2: But it was it was like you said, fans.

652
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,479
Speaker 4: Don't know that. FDF fans don't know doubt, they don't

653
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 4: know what we've gone through. And more so it oh

654
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,919
Speaker 4: they said, oh he got tragged by then for God

655
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 4: that we got wife and the kids. We have to move.

656
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 4: We gotta go look for school, we gotta look for

657
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 4: a house.

658
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 3: You get you get Atlanta off you the contract. They

659
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,399
Speaker 3: give you the biggest contract out of everybody. And now

660
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 3: you dre and it's a guy named Steve Smith who's

661
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 3: a dog.

662
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 2: Oh geez, a dog and trained to get there.

663
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 3: Y'all back to back fit the wins, like the success

664
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 3: was even it was a different caliber team than it

665
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 3: was when you were just in Denver. Y'all was starting

666
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 3: off and y'all was growing to be good. But now

667
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 3: it's like y'all got too efficient superstars that's ready to go.

668
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 3: We're supposed to be good.

669
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 2: No doubt.

670
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 3: So how was that just getting the line and you're like, no, oh,

671
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 3: I got Steve Smell, we got pieces, we can win games.

672
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 4: Oh. It was different coming from them through a landtop

673
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 4: because fans that started with the court, we didn't have

674
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 4: to lend. They walk Clinton one of their red scorch

675
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 4: in the NBA history, one of the winning scorching the

676
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 4: NBA history. Yeah, great man, great father figure. Then I

677
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 4: was running by so many great lads, great man, Gret Vetterman, guys,

678
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 4: who've been in the league more than five years, seven years.

679
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 4: So guys who understand it came properly. They know what

680
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 4: it's like to win everyth you did not. I think

681
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 4: I think he said, why we did you have successful.

682
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 2: In knowlanda so to win in Atlanta?

683
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 3: And I know, like Atlanta is a black city.

684
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,439
Speaker 2: You're not You're not African in Atlanta? You black? You

685
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 2: you you more than Africa. Was like you want talking about.

686
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 4: Yeah. When I came through Man on the first day

687
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 4: I was Sunday, I took a drive outside. I was like,

688
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 4: I felt like I was home.

689
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't think I was in a Man.

690
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 4: I thought I was in Africa. Man.

691
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:52,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I was like, Oh my god, my people.

692
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:56,280
Speaker 2: That yet, how how did the how did you feel?

693
00:43:56,280 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 3: How did Atlanta fans like embraced you? You know what

694
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 3: I'm saying this, This is ma Tombo's town right here,

695
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 3: like anything dealing with the.

696
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 1: Land airport when you landed, When you landing airport, you

697
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,760
Speaker 1: see the Kenbaga when you coming up there, going up there,

698
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:13,720
Speaker 1: say this is airport.

699
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 3: I didn't feel had your people you see more of

700
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 3: your kind, more of your color, like it's rooting for

701
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 3: you and you representing that type of town.

702
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 4: Our fights are good, our friends are good. Man. It

703
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 4: wasn't a big change. You knew you weren't the NBA,

704
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 4: but the people that you were looking from left and right.

705
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 4: I just send people the local like you. We have

706
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,919
Speaker 4: done so well in in life. We are successful. Who

707
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 4: works so many who work hard? The doctor, nurses, lawyers

708
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 4: see you. It can't inspire you, little bill. You wish

709
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 4: you can see so many pressents like this in America.

710
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 4: And I felt like I want ship and I look

711
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 4: at my wife, I said, we got staying here for

712
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 4: the rest so far in life.

713
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: No, Atlanta is definitely one of the one of the

714
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: cities where where where black excellence is on display all

715
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: the time, like from like you said, whether it's whatever field, whatever,

716
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: whether it's nursing doctors like like you say, I fly

717
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 1: in there all the time to do to work for

718
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: Turner and stuff like that. You know, you flying in

719
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: first class like you you get you Sometimes I give

720
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: myself that little chuckle because you all type of different

721
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 1: of us in the first class, like though like it be,

722
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: it could be whatever, it could be the super super

723
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 1: button up business type. You might see a young kid

724
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,879
Speaker 1: looking super hip hop. But like they it's like all

725
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: walks of us. We we we in first class, we flying,

726
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. We're not in the back

727
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 1: of the plane or nothing like that. Like like you said,

728
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: success and it's black excellence. You see us in big houses,

729
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 1: owning stuff, owning businesses. They're doing things and like yeah,

730
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 1: and then I love the fact that in Atlanta that

731
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: like they come together a lot, they come to they

732
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 1: got together and do a lot.

733
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and it's us, you know what I'm saying,

734
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 2: that's doing it. The fans. You see what I'm saying,

735
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 2: is a.

736
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 4: Specially things going on now.

737
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: So in Atlanta, go ahead you now, I'm gonna say

738
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: the other thing about Atlanta though, like when you go

739
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 1: to the games they have, they have probably the closest

740
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: experience that we want to go to every time, like

741
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: out of every arena. Like I saw the whole thing

742
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 1: come up when they were talking about our experience is

743
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: too black and all of that stuff. But it's because

744
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: that's what it is when you go to that game.

745
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 1: You I'm telling you, when I was removed from playing,

746
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: I'm cold. I'm on the bench with with the pistons

747
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: and stuff.

748
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 2: We got to Detroit.

749
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,439
Speaker 1: You know, it's like now I'm kind of unplugged from

750
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: being like locked in the play and it's like you're

751
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: looking around. It's like, yo, like this is crazy. Like

752
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: it's like it's kind of like you like we it

753
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: felt like Zoe Summer Groove or something that's just like

754
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like this just feel. It

755
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, you're looking around, it's like you see

756
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: you might see t I or you know, Ludu or somebody.

757
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 2: It's two chains and it's.

758
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: Just like and then they performing at halftime and it

759
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, this is cracking. Like they then they

760
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 1: DJ up and there he playing all our music. They

761
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: the stuff, the effects and stuff is like us. It

762
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 1: was like you you you feel it?

763
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you feel the cultus.

764
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 4: Man, beautiful press. I know y'all so much.

765
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 2: Man, so in Atlanta.

766
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,800
Speaker 3: You know, y'all made the playoffs, which I just couldn't

767
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:55,959
Speaker 3: really get over that hump.

768
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 2: You see, Uh, Chicago.

769
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: Man was just about to say, I'm just about to

770
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: say this particular.

771
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 3: Hunter speaking say that. I didn't want to say that.

772
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 3: You know, you know that, but you stop, Damn Chicago,

773
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 3: you know what I'm talking about.

774
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:19,479
Speaker 4: Twenty three got that guy man?

775
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, forty five one time it came back together.

776
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: But wait, so this is the question I want to

777
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: have asked speaking to him because we all saw it

778
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: on the last dance where you was talking your trash,

779
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 1: say Michael ain't got me, he ain't got me? And

780
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: then what was the reaction when he got you? Like

781
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: it wasn't one of his one of his worst or crazy?

782
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: You could you please you could say that wasn't like

783
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:49,240
Speaker 1: one of the last posts. But how did it feel

784
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: when he when you turned and he said this to you?

785
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 1: I said, look at you know me, I'm a kid.

786
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:54,479
Speaker 1: We went crazy?

787
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:55,879
Speaker 4: I said, Oh, Michael got him?

788
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: He kind of his Wait the.

789
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 3: Figure almighty Ben talking Michael talking about that moment, run

790
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 3: up to it.

791
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 4: You know I got you.

792
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: Know, I ain't never gonna let you live in.

793
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 4: They got seven years man to get one dump you

794
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 4: want so man.

795
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 3: To me, I was like, oh yeah, yeah, you know,

796
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 3: to a shot blocker, you know they some gotta get through,

797
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 3: but many of them don't.

798
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 2: You know.

799
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: That was the one thing I learned to respect once

800
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 1: I got to the league and learned about the block

801
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 1: and I was like, especially so because I was like,

802
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: you know, like because why you said all the time,

803
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 1: so get mad somebody say something start looking up like, well,

804
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 1: you know I didn't put up out of here like

805
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: somebody gonna get through. I go at everything I don't

806
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,879
Speaker 1: know not coming here and contest. I say that's true. Though,

807
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: when you start thinking about it like that, like you

808
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 1: seven years to get you one time like that, you

809
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: get a pretty good percentage.

810
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 3: I feel like that's what a great shot blocker becomes,

811
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,479
Speaker 3: where they don't care about the last play. They looking

812
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 3: for the next block. You know what I'm saying, looking

813
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 3: for the next block. Just don't think about being a

814
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,280
Speaker 3: shot block of Q, which you might not know nothing about.

815
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 3: But we'll talk about that another day.

816
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 4: But you're a great shot blocker, you all that guy?

817
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 4: Remember that you're not gonna catch everybody.

818
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:27,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

819
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 4: Then A Russell told me that before I got to

820
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 4: the NBA. It said, suck, you gonna get don trust me,

821
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 4: but you want to prevent as many shots as you

822
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 4: care as possible. So I knew what what I have

823
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:47,399
Speaker 4: to do. Yeah, but Michael got me on it one time.

824
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 4: Anybody in the NBA history, they don't think how many

825
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 4: blocks shots I got for Michael. They remember on even

826
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 4: walked out I went to the bank today. Yeah, as

827
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 4: I was coming out there through walk to me said yeah,

828
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 4: I saw they lost dance Michael.

829
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: Don't you can't even go to the bank without somebody

830
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 1: bringing that up to you.

831
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 4: How many all that femen I made all the all

832
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 4: start to I mean one of the great difference we

833
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:31,800
Speaker 4: won't remember only one time I got dunk shot. Only

834
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:33,720
Speaker 4: I got dunk one time, my Michael.

835
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 3: So the seventy sixers had allan Iversen, who was being

836
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:45,399
Speaker 3: scoring champ, a top three score every year. Great great

837
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:50,320
Speaker 3: great guys, great guy to workers, great great Coachingarry Brown.

838
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:55,439
Speaker 3: What they was missing was the defensive piece. They had

839
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 3: all the offense in the days because all the point,

840
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:00,879
Speaker 3: but they needed that d fense to stop the other

841
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 3: team from scoring. Like when you got traded there you fit,

842
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 3: you came in. It was just like perfect, like it

843
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 3: didn't nothing up. They intially became a title contender right away.

844
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 3: It wasn't just about making the playoffs off their lives

845
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 3: and scoring. It's about ship we can get a chance

846
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 3: to win it. And when this when this title, like

847
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 3: how was to get on.

848
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 2: That defensive player. Yeah.

849
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 4: Remember went with playing that All Star game in DC.

850
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,479
Speaker 2: Thousand, Yeah, yeah, we were there.

851
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 4: Yeah. And after the game, No, in the fourth quarter.

852
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 7: After we made the comeback, the comeback great game had Marlberry,

853
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 7: Jason K thirty one, Raybo Yeah, and then about seven blocks.

854
00:52:55,560 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 4: Bron look at me at the third quarters some you

855
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 4: are coming with.

856
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 2: Me, coming to get you? Now coming to get you?

857
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 4: Jey, I mean on the talk said you coming with me?

858
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 4: Everybody was where you where you guys, I'm going you

859
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 4: coming with me to finish? So I thought it was

860
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 4: a joke. I was like, okay, maybe a coach lacking

861
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 4: me said no, if I'm going next to that championship,

862
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 4: you're the one who's going to take us. And the

863
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 4: air was that said court, Yes, it's coming with fun.

864
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 4: The next day the fun.

865
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 1: Rate, I wasn't filamation, So would that be considered tampering

866
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 1: or something like that that didn't even exist back That

867
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 1: didn't exist back then. It comes back. I was just

868
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: telling you. I was just talking.

869
00:53:54,080 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 4: And so I shrew after that game to LA with

870
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 4: the Atlanta House because we was playing the lightest two

871
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 4: days there and I was trying to get on the

872
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 4: bus I was living the hotel to go get in

873
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 4: on the bus. I was the last one. I see

874
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 4: the trainer wal Wally Blaze walk to me. Wally said,

875
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 4: the camber coached me to talk to you. I was like,

876
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:33,399
Speaker 4: why because I'm late. Oh no, you're not late. I said,

877
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 4: why because I'm the last one on the bus and

878
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 4: said no. So I think it said go check in

879
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 4: your room. There's a voice message for you, but we

880
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 4: have to go go back to your room. I said.

881
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:53,879
Speaker 4: They gave me to the two hour and a half.

882
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 4: I said, no, you go back to your room. You're

883
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 4: playing tonight, I said, coach was a man. Why the

884
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 4: way they crossed their door a hostile So I didn't

885
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,800
Speaker 4: get that chance to say bye to my teammates or nothing.

886
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 1: That basket really so they didn't get you an explanation.

887
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: They tell you to go listen to the voicemail.

888
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 4: Yes, I went on to my room. What and there

889
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 4: was a first message in my room my hotel. I listened,

890
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 4: said Dick, you've been dreaded to shit. At that shot,

891
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 4: I old was asked this question. I know we're talking

892
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 4: about NBA's business, but sometimes you wonder, why did they

893
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 4: treat me for something like that.

894
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: That's crazy. That's crazy, like kick you off the bus.

895
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: Wouldn't tell you like he could have just told you, like, yo, man,

896
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: they traded you. It wasn't my call, like they just

897
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: told you go listen to the voicemail. I ain't gonna

898
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: be the bear of bad news. I ain't saying go

899
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: go listen to the too big. I need to tell

900
00:55:58,719 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 1: you this shit.

901
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 2: That's wild.

902
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 4: Man. I went there was like you being trade. So

903
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 4: I called him my head j Devid. Fuck, I said, Devid,

904
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 4: what's going on? Uh? Did come? Sorry? I just got

905
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:17,320
Speaker 4: a call you being traded to the seventhy second. But

906
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 4: I was happy because now that Brianny have thought me

907
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 4: you coming with me? So I knew that.

908
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that was there.

909
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 1: That was a good conference on knowing the at least

910
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: where I am going and you know he won't be

911
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: really bad at least.

912
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,879
Speaker 3: So when you got there right right away, did you see,

913
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,359
Speaker 3: it was like, oh, yeah, something special, we can really

914
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:35,479
Speaker 3: kind of really do something.

915
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 2: Could y'all start playing team y'all?

916
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 4: You know there was a great team. There was number

917
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 4: one in the East Eastern Conference. There are one more

918
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:52,879
Speaker 4: game than anybody there was playing so well I was

919
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 4: starting that crazy. I knew that there was a perfect

920
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 4: rance for me to be. I was going to fit

921
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 4: with the system. I don't have to shoot the ball

922
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 4: all I have to go to get because I know

923
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 4: I'm going to shoot everything and if I can, all

924
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 4: I have to do block shot so we can win.

925
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 4: So I know what I was on.

926
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you shut ship down.

927
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:24,439
Speaker 4: You just just.

928
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah going into that.

929
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, y'all play Kobe and Shack now at the yeah finals,

930
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 3: Like I feel like Shaq was being so dominant in

931
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 3: the league.

932
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 2: You played them better than anybody could play him.

933
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 3: Like it's you gotta be a brave man to put

934
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 3: your face in there and let that boat swing around

935
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 3: when this was this was he springing that shack like

936
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 3: when you swing it when he turned, swing that boat

937
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 3: for your face to be right there, man, to even

938
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 3: attempt at that finals and y'all winning that first game.

939
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 3: I remember that first game. I one, y'all went off.

940
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 3: Oh man, that was great, man, How.

941
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 2: Was that game for?

942
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 3: Remember that first game that y'all played. Game one, when

943
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 3: y'all beat them in LA.

944
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 4: We knew that we did they have the ability to

945
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 4: beat them, so defensively, we were better offensively. We know

946
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 4: that we have air or we have to do setence

947
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 4: many pick and rolls to get him lose it. And

948
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 4: he was gonna get the shot and the hard and

949
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 4: I just have to cross the ball and get a

950
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 4: rippou and then we did that. I olders believe Wish

951
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 4: would have won the game too, because we was out about.

952
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 2: Ten yes, two minutes left, yes.

953
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 4: With two minutes left, shop fill out. Then I don't

954
00:58:56,200 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 4: know what happened. Something that they have happened. And coach

955
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 4: Brian was like, Dick, I think the game is offered.

956
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 4: I'm going to take you out, save you for game

957
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 4: three because Shack is not there. Let somebody else to play.

958
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 4: We win. As soon as I came to sit on

959
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 4: the bench, with like one minute and forty some second,

960
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 4: our latest brother Kobe Bryan push the ball down, scored

961
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 4: pre three winner on the road. Poo right away. They

962
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 4: was one all that coach, I need to go back in.

963
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:39,439
Speaker 4: Oh no, we got it. We gotta pull we lose

964
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 4: the ball again, and they went there and scored and

965
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 4: we lost the game. As say, if we have beat

966
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 4: them down two games, maybe it was a chance for

967
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 4: me to win the championship. Right.

968
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: So you you spoke on it. You said, you said

969
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 1: that you knew. All you had to do is this

970
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 1: this this right here right? Tell me where where did

971
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 1: that come from? When did you like? What made you

972
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 1: start doing it? And and just what was the origin

973
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 1: of that? Uh, it's legendary, it's iconic. Now, when I

974
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 1: came to the leg.

975
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 4: I knew I was in different forces because the way

976
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 4: I was approaching the game every given now with her

977
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:34,440
Speaker 4: mission and with a purpose. The purpose was to stop

978
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 4: anybody that was coming to the basket, and my mission

979
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 4: was to win. And every time I would block, stop,

980
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 4: but people were still coming in trying to put the

981
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 4: level on me. Then I used to shake my head

982
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 4: every time I would block the shot. Then I said, man,

983
01:00:56,320 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 4: fuck this, those guys are listening to me. Maybe it

984
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 4: start giving them the fingerwear. Yeah, and there I'll tell

985
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 4: you what. I lost a lot of money in the fingerwear. Man,

986
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 4: I got so many tech you go far, I think

987
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 4: the referee will kick me out of the game. They'll

988
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 4: be like, Dick, if you do that, well, kick you

989
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:23,439
Speaker 4: you get attacked. I would get attacked the first tack.

990
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 4: Then I will do that again. They'll be like, please

991
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 4: stop please stop, man, We don't want to kick you

992
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:30,919
Speaker 4: out of the game.

993
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 1: Is it true, like you say you got technicals for

994
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 1: did they try and ban it or stop you from

995
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 1: doing the fingerway?

996
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 4: The league trying to band it? My fact they didn't

997
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 4: band there, but I didn't stop. I was theting the

998
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 4: call all the time with the commissioner, Devid, and he

999
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 4: will call me back. What did I tell you?

1000
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 2: Stop?

1001
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 4: Stop? Stop? And that was like I was like, Devid,

1002
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 4: it's already on my block, is on my system. I

1003
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 4: cannot stop. And couple years was like you know what

1004
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 4: forget about that? You just kick.

1005
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 2: At the playoffs?

1006
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 3: Like to see you know, from that, to see like

1007
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 3: young kids from Congo, like Sergey Bakabody. Yeah, to see

1008
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 3: young kids come up you know, to do that and

1009
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 3: and do it and get it from you somebody that

1010
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:32,919
Speaker 3: started this ship. Like how do you feel to see

1011
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 3: the next generation still keeping the love and keeping that

1012
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 3: tradition going.

1013
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 4: I think that brings a lot of love to me

1014
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 4: and make me appreciate my contribution to the NBA, my

1015
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 4: contribution to this game. That I played this game with

1016
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 4: a lot of pushing, with a lot of love, and

1017
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 4: I left so much to so many people in this

1018
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 4: universion to come and so many of those young people

1019
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 4: who came after us. They're trying to copy a few

1020
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 4: things that I did when I was in the NBA.

1021
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 4: It's the same thing I did. I was able to

1022
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 4: copy a lot of thing. Bill Russell, pat with you

1023
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 4: in I came my last wife, David Robinson, karaemamdu Jama.

1024
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 4: I took the whole sack from karaimadu Jama. You cannot

1025
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:38,440
Speaker 4: playing it in a professional league in any level with

1026
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 4: I copying anything and somebody who came before you exactly.

1027
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 4: Don't let nobody fool you that. My brothers would have

1028
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 4: said that, oh, I create my own game. No, you

1029
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 4: didn't create your own game. You pick up from somebody

1030
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 4: who left. So not the way.

1031
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 3: It is like what I love about your career so

1032
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 3: much like man, every team you went to, you fit

1033
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 3: in so perfect, and it was like like a reinvention,

1034
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 3: not like you ain't did nothing before, but it was

1035
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 3: like every team from New Jersey to New York to

1036
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 3: even Houston when you got there with y'all, it was

1037
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 3: like it was always like a reinvention of you, like

1038
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 3: a new start, but coming in as one of the

1039
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 3: best players in this league.

1040
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 2: Like, how was it? You know?

1041
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 3: I know you journey in for a few years, through

1042
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 3: New Jersey, through New York, got to Houston. But every

1043
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 3: year it's like you fit in so perfect, and defense

1044
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:38,120
Speaker 3: always fit in perfect when you're taking care of you

1045
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 3: the front line and right.

1046
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 4: It took me a while to realize that tool your

1047
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 4: career in the NBA, there's no assurance not to give

1048
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 4: it to you, say nothing quick, mAbs you gonna play

1049
01:04:56,280 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 4: on it. For the finicked side, Nobody knows are you're

1050
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 4: going to finish. Nobody ever't been drafted first. You don't

1051
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 4: know where you're going when you go to the draft,

1052
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 4: and you don't know where you're going to finish. So

1053
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 4: I was those type of player who really didn't understand

1054
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 4: that very well. Afterwards did happened to me in Denver?

1055
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 4: I thought? I was that if you are so good,

1056
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 4: why do you have to be traded? Why do you

1057
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 4: have to transfer somewhere? It took me a couple of

1058
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 4: years to understand that. That when I realized that my

1059
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:42,800
Speaker 4: job as the game Intoba was to play basketball, but

1060
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 4: to play basketball, where in the NBA it was lunch

1061
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 4: as to play basketball year year. It was to have

1062
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 4: a job, because as you know, we love our job.

1063
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 4: All we want to do to be able to wake

1064
01:05:57,920 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 4: up the next day and know that to we have

1065
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 4: a job, we're gonna get plaid and see that our

1066
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 4: famil So you know, I kept to that point to

1067
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 4: I unders said that no matter where I go, as

1068
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 4: long as I'm doing what I skin that you do,

1069
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 4: I'll be fine with my teammate. I just need to

1070
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 4: go ahead, be nice, go hard on protest, and let

1071
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 4: the coaches make a decision. And I did that. I

1072
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 4: end up believing your love to almost all of the

1073
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 4: coaches not coaching it. So I'm lucking mack.

1074
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 1: Speak speak on speak on how was it to when

1075
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 1: you play with the Rockets with that with that team

1076
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 1: with t Mac and y'all, and like you were forty

1077
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 1: years old coming off the bench, still averaging ten rebounds

1078
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 1: off the bench behind yeah, limited actions, still smacking stuff

1079
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 1: up out of there, and you had the oldest you

1080
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 1: the oldest person to get twenty two rebounds in the

1081
01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 1: game at forty Yeah, But like, how was that the

1082
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 1: Rockets to at the end of your career and you

1083
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 1: got to play with Prime TEAMC Prime y'all, Oh that.

1084
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 4: Wasn't the best time, man, I don't know why. I

1085
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 4: loved my last five years and your strut that better

1086
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 4: than any place. I think that because I was old

1087
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 4: and I was running with young people. It's not It's

1088
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 4: not Grandpa with his grandkids.

1089
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 1: And they wasn't asking They weren't asking you to do

1090
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 1: it too much. You had somebody in front of you,

1091
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 1: come in and do your thing in short time. It

1092
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 1: didn't go back and chill out.

1093
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 4: Yes, it was a good time.

1094
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:37,560
Speaker 1: Man.

1095
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 4: Team Mac is a great guy. Grant teammates, y'all is

1096
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 4: the best. We remain friends until to that. Man. I

1097
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 4: love those guys. I love her.

1098
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 2: You.

1099
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 3: You came in studying medicine, yes, to build a hospital

1100
01:07:56,280 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 3: like at home, To build a hospital at home, knowing

1101
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 3: bunch of people going through and all that stuff.

1102
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:02,960
Speaker 2: To build a hospital at home.

1103
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 3: It's like you came into medicine to study and you're

1104
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 3: gonna build a center where all the medicine can be

1105
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 3: provided for anybody. Like, how did that make you feel?

1106
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 3: To get a hospital and build a hospital at home?

1107
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:17,640
Speaker 2: And you got to name it after your mom? Straight up?

1108
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 2: That's the ultimate cherry on time.

1109
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 4: Thank you thank you, guz, thank you. In ninety seven,

1110
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 4: going through ninety AH, there was a civil arrest back

1111
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 4: in the Congo there. Now my mom was not fitting will.

1112
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 4: So my dad was trying to get my mom to

1113
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:43,600
Speaker 4: the hospital.

1114
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:45,559
Speaker 3: I was like ten wait.

1115
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:50,680
Speaker 4: By the soldiers thought my mom, my dad to go

1116
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 4: back in the house because there was so many shooting

1117
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:56,719
Speaker 4: on the street. They don't want they didn't want nothing

1118
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 4: to drop into my father.

1119
01:08:58,400 --> 01:08:59,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, so.

1120
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 4: My father said, hey, my wife is not feeling well.

1121
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 4: We got to get to the hospital. But to make

1122
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 4: the story short, my dad get back in the house.

1123
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 4: My mom end up passing away in the living room.

1124
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 4: So with all those circumstants of life, I realized that

1125
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 4: I have to do something. Then I asked myself a question.

1126
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 4: I came to America to study medicine in a journey

1127
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:33,920
Speaker 4: that one day I was becoming a doctor and go

1128
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 4: back home to Africa to practice. Now many NBA making

1129
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:47,559
Speaker 4: million million dollars and people are dying back home because

1130
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:50,800
Speaker 4: of lack of medicine, lack of treatment, of lack of

1131
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 4: healthcare center. Want to just build a hospital and make

1132
01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:04,679
Speaker 4: a difference. So I started looking inside myself. What can

1133
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 4: I do? How would I do that. So I did

1134
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 4: have a cousin who welcome in Washington disease, so I

1135
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 4: went to see him. I said, dog, doctor Lewis, I'm

1136
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 4: interesting about building the hospital back home because I always

1137
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 4: want becoming a doctor. It would be a nice thing

1138
01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:30,760
Speaker 4: for me to build something to take care of all

1139
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:34,640
Speaker 4: those women and children are dying in Africa. And my

1140
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 4: cousin was like, if it's your calling, if that's something

1141
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 4: you want to do, I will support to you with

1142
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:47,360
Speaker 4: my experience being a doctor. I will help you mention

1143
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 4: that you have ship your car, and he joined me

1144
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:54,640
Speaker 4: on my journey and I went there and built this

1145
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 4: hospital that they treat more than six hundred thousands women

1146
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 4: and children, which I'm very proud of the team that

1147
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:08,200
Speaker 4: i have in the Congo. As we are talking today

1148
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 4: and the next couple of weeks, I'm going to start

1149
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 4: in construction of the brand new school in Congo and

1150
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 4: then memory of my father, so I'm building a three

1151
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:24,559
Speaker 4: five million dollars school. I go from getting the gold

1152
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 4: then too twelfth grade, so amazing man and their school.

1153
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 4: Their schooling will open in September twenty twenty one. So

1154
01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 4: I'm so exciting that what I'm doing in this work

1155
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 4: and the difference that I'm.

1156
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:39,880
Speaker 2: Making, that's why the blessings are here.

1157
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 3: Like for now you're a hall of Famer, this game

1158
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:46,840
Speaker 3: that you didn't know nothing about, and so forth, all

1159
01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 3: they the Kem Bay Matmo hall of Famer, so well deserved.

1160
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:55,439
Speaker 3: Wish we can give it to you soon as you

1161
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 3: finish you announce your retirement.

1162
01:11:57,320 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 2: You know you're.

1163
01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:00,760
Speaker 3: Supposed to get it right away, but you're a hall

1164
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:02,840
Speaker 3: of famer. To put hall of fame in front of

1165
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 3: your name, hall of Fame, Tombo, Like, how did that

1166
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:09,720
Speaker 3: feel to be in there with all them greats that

1167
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:11,520
Speaker 3: you just strive and worked hard.

1168
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 2: To be like like your brother.

1169
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:19,559
Speaker 4: Oh, I could have believed when my name was called

1170
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 4: out that I was part of the class. Yeah twenty fifteen.

1171
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 4: I was a what.

1172
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:32,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because freshman.

1173
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 4: Yes, it doesn't happen to so many guys. No, sometimes

1174
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:41,439
Speaker 4: you have to wait a couple more years for you

1175
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 4: to get it. There's people who went for twenty thirty

1176
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:47,360
Speaker 4: years to get it. But I got called on the

1177
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 4: first one.

1178
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1179
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 4: I thank God, man, there's nobody else. I thanks God

1180
01:12:57,200 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 4: for all of the blassing for many to be who

1181
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 4: I am and I thanks my teammates because, as you know,

1182
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 4: basketball is not a spot that you can play by yourself.

1183
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:15,679
Speaker 4: You have to you have good teammates man, people who

1184
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:19,040
Speaker 4: believe in you, who would walk in the basketball coach

1185
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 4: with you and go ahead wait because we waited with

1186
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:26,800
Speaker 4: five guys and we lose with five guys in the

1187
01:13:26,840 --> 01:13:31,160
Speaker 4: basketball court. So I always thanks everyone on my teammates

1188
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:36,320
Speaker 4: that I played with. I thanks my coaches, and don't

1189
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 4: forget we already have to thanks our trainers. Guys, you

1190
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:48,519
Speaker 4: take care of before this guy. Yeah right, so I

1191
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 4: thank others.

1192
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 2: Bro, This is what I want to add.

1193
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 1: Like everything, all of the different things you've accomplished, you

1194
01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Basketball you got you know, he's

1195
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:02,559
Speaker 1: speak nine languages, you you know what I'm saying, got

1196
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:06,559
Speaker 1: different degrees and things like that. But where did you

1197
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 1: get the passion to become the huge humanitarian like you

1198
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 1: say you built the hospital right now, You've been in

1199
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 1: the school and you you've taken so much of your

1200
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:20,880
Speaker 1: own personal and giving back to the Congo and just

1201
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:23,439
Speaker 1: different charities. Every time I look up like I see

1202
01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:25,680
Speaker 1: you at all of the nbas, I feel like you

1203
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:28,840
Speaker 1: know I'm saying, though, like I say this in an

1204
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:31,640
Speaker 1: admirable way, Like I always see like the kembe is

1205
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:35,400
Speaker 1: always doing something, and it's always for the betterment of

1206
01:14:35,439 --> 01:14:38,640
Speaker 1: somebody else, and it's always some positivity. And it's like

1207
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 1: you got one of the you know, most huge hearts.

1208
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:43,280
Speaker 1: And when it comes to giving back and trying to

1209
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 1: help other people, what do you think you got that from?

1210
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 1: And I mean, we look at it and you inspire us,

1211
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:51,880
Speaker 1: and we salute you, and we we say thank you

1212
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:54,519
Speaker 1: for doing all the truth all that you impact. And

1213
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:57,639
Speaker 1: I know those people that receive those impacts really really

1214
01:14:57,720 --> 01:14:58,600
Speaker 1: are thankful for you.

1215
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:00,320
Speaker 2: So where do you think that comes from?

1216
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:08,800
Speaker 4: I tend to my mother and my father too. I

1217
01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 4: think it was something that gave it to me as

1218
01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:16,639
Speaker 4: a child. They told me so well about thinking about

1219
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 4: other people and my mom every time, even though we

1220
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 4: grew up so poor. My dad was a teacher that

1221
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 4: made thirty eight dollars a month. My mom was like

1222
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 4: a housewife, but in the evening he'd be selling sworders

1223
01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:39,760
Speaker 4: or something on the corner of the street so he

1224
01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 4: can make extra two dollars or three dollars to feed

1225
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:47,560
Speaker 4: kids and my mom every time, so we cook in

1226
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:51,880
Speaker 4: the evening even there's all the kids in the neighborhood

1227
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 4: that don't have no food. They would come over our

1228
01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:59,360
Speaker 4: house and eat. And those are the thing I took

1229
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:04,360
Speaker 4: from my parents. And when I got blasts to play

1230
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:07,559
Speaker 4: the game that we all love in NBA to make

1231
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:11,439
Speaker 4: all the money, I say, I need to find a

1232
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 4: way to blast all the people who are not in

1233
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:18,680
Speaker 4: my shoes and just to leave an impact in this

1234
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 4: world that we are living in. And the NBA give

1235
01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 4: me the platform to call all the people who are

1236
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:34,719
Speaker 4: successful to join me in my journey and to make

1237
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:37,360
Speaker 4: me to help me do what I want to do.

1238
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:41,479
Speaker 4: Because I don't do all the work that I don't

1239
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:46,679
Speaker 4: underworld by myself. I always go with different friends who

1240
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:49,439
Speaker 4: got go to hard and I say, hey, do you

1241
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 4: think you can give one million dollars for something I

1242
01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:55,000
Speaker 4: want to do here? Can you do half a million?

1243
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 4: Can you do fifty thousand? Can you do ten thousand?

1244
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 4: So you call those people like with their school I'm building.

1245
01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 4: I'm not putting my money. People are putting money in

1246
01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 4: to help me go do something for the poor people

1247
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:14,479
Speaker 4: because they believe in me. They know that if we

1248
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 4: give this money to detamine Tombo it will get it done,

1249
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:25,320
Speaker 4: like he deals with his hospital. So it's about.

1250
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:28,080
Speaker 1: Really really good friends you have there to be able

1251
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 1: to call Oh yeah, I need to be able to

1252
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 1: call me up and say, Yo, let me get a

1253
01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 1: million for this self here and we're gonna tell me why.

1254
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:42,200
Speaker 4: That's why I love about NBA. Man. I think there's

1255
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:45,320
Speaker 4: so many people would love to be in our shoes,

1256
01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:51,519
Speaker 4: but we need to use this platform correctly. Uh, there's

1257
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:56,599
Speaker 4: so many people that we do that. Our friends when

1258
01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 4: they come to see us, to find a way to

1259
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:03,080
Speaker 4: develop a read friendship with them, because when they gave

1260
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:07,680
Speaker 4: me is offer you becoming that possible. So you've been

1261
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:11,040
Speaker 4: coming off the basketball fan, then when you go back

1262
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:13,599
Speaker 4: to that click, if you use that click very well,

1263
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:15,679
Speaker 4: you can be coming to something. Yeah.

1264
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:19,719
Speaker 2: Absolutely, straight up. You fell in love with this ball.

1265
01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:22,880
Speaker 3: Now you got a son that's the top prospect that

1266
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 3: fell in love with the same ball that you fell

1267
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:28,920
Speaker 3: in love. How do you feel about just seeing your blood,

1268
01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:32,240
Speaker 3: your baby boy just fall in love with this game

1269
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:34,360
Speaker 3: and starting to like it and be successful with it.

1270
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:41,360
Speaker 4: I'm so proud of it. He made me cry some

1271
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:43,840
Speaker 4: time I watch him in the game. I just sit there,

1272
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 4: I say keep going, young man, keep chanting your drip.

1273
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:53,679
Speaker 4: I think it's God for a long time. You want

1274
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:58,880
Speaker 4: to be better than me, and my job is to

1275
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:03,280
Speaker 4: make sure that you get that. That's why I do

1276
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:06,600
Speaker 4: what I do every day. Make sure I'm pushing him,

1277
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:09,600
Speaker 4: make sure that he's eating what supposed to eat is

1278
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 4: lifting weight. Yeah, it's going to the gym and work

1279
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:16,200
Speaker 4: out with the coaches. It's at the gym right now,

1280
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:19,040
Speaker 4: you left side store or crocket, I'm not coming back there.

1281
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:25,160
Speaker 2: So yeah, loving loving the ball that Yeah, man, we have.

1282
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 4: To sit for to them. When our children want to

1283
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:33,280
Speaker 4: get to the game and be successful, we need to

1284
01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:36,599
Speaker 4: push them. We need to walk with them, make sure

1285
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 4: they get that where they want to go.

1286
01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:38,839
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1287
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been wearing the size eighteen shoes since I

1288
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:43,880
Speaker 3: was in seventh grade.

1289
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:47,599
Speaker 4: Oh yo, you got a small ship last shoes.

1290
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 2: Let's wait, wait said you got small my shoe size?

1291
01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:55,679
Speaker 3: You know, me being twelve years old wearing the eighteen

1292
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:58,680
Speaker 3: and all that stuff, Like, I didn't heart all the

1293
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:02,920
Speaker 3: big feet jokes there us like, but I.

1294
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:05,040
Speaker 2: Know your foot is a little bit bigger than mine.

1295
01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:06,840
Speaker 4: So I went two.

1296
01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:13,639
Speaker 2: I'm in the eighteen.

1297
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:16,080
Speaker 3: It's not easy I'm trying to tell them that, like

1298
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:17,680
Speaker 3: it's not dress shoes.

1299
01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 4: One press, you can't buy your shoes.

1300
01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:25,559
Speaker 2: And freeman yea even in the A shout out Freemans

1301
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:27,400
Speaker 2: in the A. I still got a pair of shoes there.

1302
01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 3: You know, us big feet people, you know, once we

1303
01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 3: get a pair of shoes, we can't funk them up

1304
01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:34,720
Speaker 3: like that. We got to keep them. We might not

1305
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:37,840
Speaker 3: get it there for a long time, a long time.

1306
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:42,519
Speaker 4: I went out for five years, six year. My wife's

1307
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:46,800
Speaker 4: be like, oh, why you wearing that? Shoot ship? I said,

1308
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 4: what's wrong with my shoes?

1309
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:52,960
Speaker 2: Straight up? Straight up?

1310
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:55,680
Speaker 1: And this is what I want to ask o g

1311
01:20:56,000 --> 01:21:00,040
Speaker 1: So you know you're coming from from from Africa and

1312
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 1: and you know, very humble beginnings, not having a whole lot.

1313
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:06,759
Speaker 1: When you got to the NBA and you started getting

1314
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 1: them millions, right, I know you did things to take

1315
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:11,960
Speaker 1: care of the family. I got to hear something that

1316
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 1: you did for yourself, something that you was like, I'm

1317
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:18,360
Speaker 1: about to go get some nice or treat myself one time.

1318
01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:22,559
Speaker 1: What olgum, what did Mountain Tombo go splurrig on as

1319
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 1: a young boy.

1320
01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:27,120
Speaker 4: I did that. I take care of myself. Twenty years ago,

1321
01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:32,559
Speaker 4: when I was still in the league. All us you

1322
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 4: ever dreaming about living in big mansion, big house, And

1323
01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:45,839
Speaker 4: I got it done in two thousand. I was driving

1324
01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:52,439
Speaker 4: and I locked up one day after practice. I wasn't

1325
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:54,640
Speaker 4: a brother, no reto.

1326
01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:57,559
Speaker 2: Rights, remember, you know.

1327
01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, And after prote our next friend told me said, Dick,

1328
01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:09,599
Speaker 4: there's this big house being built in the neighborhood. Man

1329
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:13,320
Speaker 4: where I need. I think the house look like you

1330
01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 4: fit it. So, because we already talked about whose house

1331
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:21,760
Speaker 4: is bigger than the other, I thought it was a joke.

1332
01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:26,960
Speaker 4: After the practices, said no, just follow me, I'll show

1333
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:29,840
Speaker 4: you the house. And soon then we draw by the

1334
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:34,480
Speaker 4: house has been built. I was like, oh my.

1335
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:35,920
Speaker 2: Gosh, that's mine right there.

1336
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 4: This is my house, I said, Dick. He said, oh, no,

1337
01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:46,360
Speaker 4: it's not for you to buy. I just want to

1338
01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:50,120
Speaker 4: show you. I said, no, I'm buying this house right

1339
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:55,040
Speaker 4: and I drop inside and people were still walking there.

1340
01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:58,160
Speaker 4: I said, who's building this house? And the guy was

1341
01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:02,560
Speaker 4: standing there saying, I am. I said, is anybody buying it?

1342
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:05,519
Speaker 4: He said no. I thought they gotta say I'm buying

1343
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:09,320
Speaker 4: their house. Shut down on the spot, I said, I'm

1344
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:12,840
Speaker 4: going to buy it. I'm going to finish it and

1345
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:15,200
Speaker 4: I'm going to live here to the last summer life.

1346
01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:23,640
Speaker 4: That's where I am. When I retired, I said, I

1347
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:28,800
Speaker 4: plenty NBA for eighteen years, but it's always going to

1348
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:32,800
Speaker 4: buy a beautiful car that you can drive for a

1349
01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:37,400
Speaker 4: long time after you retire. So I spent a little

1350
01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:42,280
Speaker 4: bit of money about myself, a nice beautiful Phantom photos.

1351
01:23:42,439 --> 01:23:45,839
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay.

1352
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 3: So with the suicide, suicide, with the suicide.

1353
01:23:53,960 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 2: Always starting to me, yeah road the third before Hall

1354
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:01,760
Speaker 2: of Fame.

1355
01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 4: So everybody hear it. My kids said, Daddy, I was

1356
01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:17,840
Speaker 4: driving your the timement car. Yeah, card I drive it

1357
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:18,800
Speaker 4: once that week.

1358
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:21,599
Speaker 2: It doesn't live the house straight up on Sundays.

1359
01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:28,479
Speaker 3: Huh, Sunday's desk, We're gonna go church and the anything

1360
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:28,720
Speaker 3: with this.

1361
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:33,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I'm talking about. I can't win

1362
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:35,320
Speaker 2: nothing but your good clothes. And here. You can get

1363
01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:38,679
Speaker 2: in here and recklar put these scuffies on. You can't

1364
01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:40,840
Speaker 2: get my cart, my fur on, my carpet roll.

1365
01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:43,000
Speaker 4: You can't insigne my car.

1366
01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:48,759
Speaker 1: Man, You know, you can't drink.

1367
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:54,120
Speaker 4: All their kids know, even their wife. No, you can't drink,

1368
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 4: not thinking my car.

1369
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 2: You can't drink that the roads. Baby, they said.

1370
01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:02,720
Speaker 4: No doctor, daddy car. Nobody messed with her.

1371
01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:07,720
Speaker 2: All right, man, that's a wrap. Man. This has been huge. Man.

1372
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:11,840
Speaker 1: We got our O G. Mister the Ken Bay Mutombo.

1373
01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 1: It is mister No No No himself Prid of the

1374
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:21,000
Speaker 1: Congo all of Hall of Famer. Yes, sir, man, we

1375
01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:23,479
Speaker 1: appreciate this, O G. Man, this was. This is you

1376
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:25,439
Speaker 1: one of the ones we look up to. Man, we

1377
01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:28,559
Speaker 1: grew up watching and we admire and this is this was.

1378
01:25:28,600 --> 01:25:30,400
Speaker 1: This was awesome for you to pull up with us

1379
01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:30,720
Speaker 1: like this.

1380
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:31,000
Speaker 4: Man.

1381
01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:31,800
Speaker 2: We appreciate you.

1382
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:36,760
Speaker 4: I appreciate God. Thank you so much for nothing and

1383
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:41,400
Speaker 4: I want you doing what you're doing. What's y'all behind

1384
01:25:41,479 --> 01:25:42,640
Speaker 4: that success.

1385
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:46,439
Speaker 2: Step from away from the bubble. I got you. We

1386
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:49,120
Speaker 2: careed this. That's why this quarantine season staying out as

1387
01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:49,599
Speaker 2: at home.

1388
01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:54,360
Speaker 1: We got them towers keeping us connected. We ain't gotta

1389
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:56,559
Speaker 1: go close. We connected with that five G.

1390
01:25:57,200 --> 01:26:25,080
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