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Speaker 1: Hey that folks.

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Speaker 2: It is Sunday, August thirty first, and picture this Amy

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Speaker 2: and TJ sitting in a hotel room and Stockholm, Sweden,

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Speaker 2: in white robes, a cup of coffee in robox, hand,

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Speaker 2: a metal around my neck.

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Speaker 1: Now with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ.

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Speaker 1: I just described to you the exact scene. And there's

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Speaker 1: a reason we are sitting like this looking like this.

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Speaker 1: There's a metal, a cup of coffee, and two folks

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Speaker 1: in robes because we just actually did something robes we

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Speaker 1: should maybe be a little more proud of and not

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Speaker 1: just say all, wait, runner, it's no big deal. We

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Speaker 1: just completed the Stockholm half marathon yesterday.

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Speaker 3: You know, it is pretty cool. And I was it's

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Speaker 3: one of those things where I think, whatever you do

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Speaker 3: in life, sometimes you have to remind yourself when you're

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Speaker 3: doing it that it's actually pretty cool that you're doing it,

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Speaker 3: especially when it's a struggle. But I was actively thinking

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Speaker 3: about that yesterday. I was like, I'm in Sweden and

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Speaker 3: I'm running a half marathon right now, that's a kind

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Speaker 3: of awesome and random. Yes, everyone has been asking questions

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Speaker 3: and are puzzled when they say, oh, you're running a

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Speaker 3: half marathon where and then just casually drop Stockholm and we'll.

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Speaker 1: Explain that's a very good reason why we end up

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Speaker 1: in random places. But as we sit here, Rodes is

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Speaker 1: doing great, great, great, great physically, how are you feeling?

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Speaker 1: You had to tell there's always something.

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Speaker 3: I actually, for the first time, there's nothing. I am

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Speaker 3: fine head to toe.

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Speaker 1: And we say this. Marathons are the ones that do

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Speaker 1: us in at least physically. We're not usually too bad

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Speaker 1: off after a half marathon. We've been doing this a

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Speaker 1: while and that's great, and we're blessed to have that.

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Speaker 1: This was a tougher half marat the toughest half marathon

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Speaker 1: for me because I've been injured, and we'll get into

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Speaker 1: the aftermath of that, which was ugly and nasty and

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Speaker 1: involved the toilet. We'll explain that. But my feet are

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Speaker 1: actually killing me. But we made it through. But we

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Speaker 1: the rose. This was one that we set a goal

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Speaker 1: in May of doing this random and it was random

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Speaker 1: because you and I these days, as much as we travel,

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Speaker 1: we don't travel by ourselves as much anymore.

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Speaker 3: No, we usually have at least one daughter tagging along,

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Speaker 3: sometimes all three, and then sometimes some of their friends

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Speaker 3: come with them as well, so we usually have a

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Speaker 3: gaggle of teens and young adults with us.

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Speaker 1: So this was an opportunity where we were looking at

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Speaker 1: the schedule earlier this year and we were like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: and Lisa is going to roll here and then we're

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Speaker 1: going to see anal. So we're planning all these things

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Speaker 1: and we realized, ah, we haven't done a lot for ourselves.

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Speaker 1: We look up for something to do and this was random.

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Speaker 1: We get into a you can explain as best and

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Speaker 1: however you want to how we get into these moods

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Speaker 1: where I say, babe, just book it. I'll go wherever

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Speaker 1: you want to go. And we were having one of

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Speaker 1: those days.

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Speaker 3: Look your look and I have I've admired this in you,

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Speaker 3: and I've it's attractive to me. You have. I've joked

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Speaker 3: about it. But you do have some OCD and it's

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Speaker 3: a serious disorder for some, but you're low on the spectrum,

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Speaker 3: but you have it enough where you like things a

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Speaker 3: certain way, and so sometimes when you get in these

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Speaker 3: more relaxed moods, you're like, you know what I'm not

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to say, just book it, just wherever

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Speaker 3: you want to go, let's just go. So I kind

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Speaker 3: of wait for these moods that I'm like, all right,

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Speaker 3: I pull out the computer and I just start looking

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Speaker 3: at playing tickets where.

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Speaker 1: We ended up because of that.

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Speaker 3: Oh it's rome me really, And then the next day

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Speaker 3: I will say, you know, I actually booked that that trip,

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Speaker 3: and you're like, did you? I was like, no, Like,

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Speaker 3: the tickets are booked. I found the hotel because sometimes

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Speaker 3: also with we like to do airbnbs or hotels, but

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Speaker 3: you just painstaking all the choices, all the options, and

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Speaker 3: because otherwise there's so much overthinking going on about well

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Speaker 3: the location to the hotel to what airline we're traveling on.

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Speaker 3: It's just sometimes it's overwhelming. So I wait for you

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Speaker 3: to get into these moods and then I just book it.

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Speaker 1: Now, this is what you have to know about this one, folks.

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Speaker 1: I was in that mindset. But we were both looking

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Speaker 1: no more than three, but maybe two real options, and

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Speaker 1: one of them and this was, Hey, we were looking

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Speaker 1: for a half marathon of something to do. It happens

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Speaker 1: to be one on the weekend that we can get away,

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Speaker 1: and it happens to be in Stockholm.

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Speaker 3: Right. So I was laughing because the places we've gone

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Speaker 3: maybe going to a place that had more diversity, just

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Speaker 3: when one of your options was Stockholm, I started laughing.

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Speaker 1: Why it's a diverse country.

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Speaker 3: Everyone looks like me.

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Speaker 1: It's so funny, so weird. Look my whole life career.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm used to being around and being the

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Speaker 1: usually being the only black guy in a country in

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Speaker 1: talked about, look, that's fine. I am twenty five thousand,

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Speaker 1: ran this half marathon yesterday. I can remember the four

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Speaker 3: I actually could too.

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Speaker 1: The two brothers that were running together, that was one sister.

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Speaker 3: like I was in between them half the time I

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Speaker 1: I couldn't figure them out how they were running. But

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Speaker 1: there was another system. Yeah, that's all. I remember.

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Speaker 3: You just nailed all four who I saw twenty five

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Speaker 3: forgot what the other options were. But when you said

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Speaker 3: half marathon, that was the hook. And I have been struggling.

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Speaker 3: I think if anyone has been listening to this podcast,

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Speaker 1: And then we always look at for somewhere to go,

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Speaker 1: So Stockholm made sense. And yes, half marathon, I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to get ready for the New York City Marathon in November,

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Speaker 1: so this all made perfect, perfect sense. Now we get here,

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Speaker 1: here's one thing, we haven't stopped working. By the way, folks,

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Speaker 1: have you all been keeping up? We have been. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we have been putting out the same schedule the podcast

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Speaker 3: Right, so it's nice because we actually get to sleep in,

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Speaker 3: nice weekend, and then we realized the first free day

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Speaker 3: we had, well, we just casually ran a half marathon.

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Speaker 1: That was our free day.

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Speaker 3: It's our free day where we had already recorded some

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Speaker 3: podcasts so we didn't have to work on Saturday. But

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Speaker 1: And while Robes has been struggling with your stomach that

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Speaker 1: you've talked about those well documented incidents, my issue has

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Speaker 1: last year. Was it August?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because you were overcompensating for your achilles, But that

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Speaker 3: was August, right, yeah?

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Speaker 1: So yes, Okay, So you all remember that I ended

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Speaker 1: That was one year ago this month as well.

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Speaker 3: No, that was early October was the Chicago's early.

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Speaker 1: And this is a race, and we got going, and

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Speaker 1: when we the race, first of all, wasn't until three

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Speaker 3: I was spiraling about what to eat and maybe more importantly,

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Speaker 3: what not to eat, because yes, all those stomach issues

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Speaker 3: I know me and I need food, So there's no

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Speaker 3: a half marathon. But normally when you wake up and

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Speaker 1: No, I wasn't a big I wasn't. I don't do

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Speaker 1: that even in the morning, no matter.

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Speaker 3: When you have boundless energy. I don't understand.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what that. I just don't like stuff

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Speaker 1: I don't think you stop.

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Speaker 3: I stopped at one and I just I literally just

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Speaker 3: took a small sweag. Look what I have to say.

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Speaker 3: The weather not perfect for you for summer vacation, but

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Speaker 3: perfect for running. It was mid sixties overcast, so I

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Speaker 3: couldn't have asked for better weather. That has a huge

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Speaker 1: That was an adjustment for folks like us because you

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Speaker 1: So for us to not have to be somewhere until three,

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Speaker 3: half marathon edition of Amy and TJ, coming to you

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Speaker 3: from Stockholm, Sweden, where we just completed. Do you have

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Speaker 1: I think that's right. I should know because of the

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Speaker 1: We'll go through all this and not keep your metal

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Speaker 1: And the only things I've understood that people have said

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Speaker 1: you're doing. Don't listen to us. This was the first race,

436
00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,639
Speaker 1: certainly half marathon. I have never seen this many people

437
00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,320
Speaker 1: walking so early in a race.

438
00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,840
Speaker 3: Again, I just think this was It's a different vibe

439
00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,359
Speaker 3: here and I think it was more casual and I

440
00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,800
Speaker 3: appreciate the fact that people have different running skill sets,

441
00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,119
Speaker 3: but I was frustrated because it was narrow and if

442
00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:02,840
Speaker 3: you were somebody who wanted to run and who had

443
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,840
Speaker 3: trained to run the whole race, which is what I

444
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,720
Speaker 3: would think you normally would do when you say you're

445
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,280
Speaker 3: going to run a half marathon, when people start walking

446
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,119
Speaker 3: at two miles and more and more and more, and

447
00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:12,520
Speaker 3: by the time we were at ten miles. I mean

448
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,480
Speaker 3: I was flying past everyone. It was very obvious that

449
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 3: there wasn't a lot of seriousness or training for a

450
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,160
Speaker 3: lot of people. And that's okay, but I just wish

451
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,680
Speaker 3: there was a designated area for people who wanted to walk,

452
00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,880
Speaker 3: because it makes it really hard when you're a runner.

453
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:31,920
Speaker 1: You're going walk two miles. In two miles now, people

454
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,040
Speaker 1: have injuries. Sometimes you just stretch it out totally again,

455
00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:35,639
Speaker 1: and we have seen that, and we know what that

456
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:36,240
Speaker 1: looks like.

457
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 3: And we've been that. Not in two miles, no, but yes,

458
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 3: but twenty two miles.

459
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,159
Speaker 1: If that was your issue. At two miles, people just

460
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 1: don't move over, get out the way. They still think

461
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 1: this is an experience for them as a walker. In

462
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,239
Speaker 1: the middle of the race, there was a couple of

463
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,199
Speaker 1: women just walking almost casually, as if it was just

464
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 1: a hanging out and a walk in the park. So

465
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,560
Speaker 1: some of that was obviously difficult for folks who have

466
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,920
Speaker 1: flown thousands of miles and train for months to come

467
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 1: here and do this thing. I get that that was

468
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,920
Speaker 1: a problem. The bottlenecks killed me. The bottlenecks and folks,

469
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 1: if you've seen these right look in New York you're

470
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:14,200
Speaker 1: talking three, four or five like wide wide lanes sometimes

471
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,200
Speaker 1: that you get to run through pretty good legs of

472
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:21,439
Speaker 1: the race. That's in New York. Here you have that

473
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 1: in short spurts, and then it goes down literally to

474
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 1: almost a running path through a park, to where now

475
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 1: you have twenty four thousand people on a wide lane

476
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,680
Speaker 1: have to shrink down to this two or three person

477
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,680
Speaker 1: wide thing and try to get through for a guy

478
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 1: that's injured and for a person that needs to be

479
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,359
Speaker 1: in stride to not be in such pain. This was

480
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 1: an awful run for me.

481
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And there were a lot of twists and turns

482
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 3: which were actually beautiful and cool, and there were a

483
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 3: lot of hills that I wasn't expecting that were actually

484
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:58,399
Speaker 3: really I thought, gorgeous. But to your point, it's those bottlenecks.

485
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 3: I mean, if you can envision in basically a a

486
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 3: bike lane with two lanes coming and going, it got

487
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,640
Speaker 3: that narrow. It was I was like, how is this possible?

488
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 3: It was almost like I felt like we were on

489
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 3: a running path in Central Park, except for we're in

490
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 3: the middle of a major race with tens of thousands

491
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 3: of people. It was wild to me that it got

492
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 3: that I almost there were times where I almost had

493
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,959
Speaker 3: to stop running because it was so it got backed up.

494
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,160
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and I just that was again, you don't

495
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 3: come here. You come here for the experience, for the culture,

496
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,360
Speaker 3: but you don't come here for a pr because you're

497
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 3: not going to get it.

498
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Speaker 1: And even on some of those bottlenecks you just mentioned

499
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: those walkers that we just mentioned, we're still on those,

500
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 1: so now you have people walking taking up lanes that

501
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,440
Speaker 1: you don't even have anymore. That was so so frustrating,

502
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 1: it was killer. It was. And then of course the

503
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 1: one lady, and this was I don't know sometimes what

504
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 1: people are thinking or they're not and whatever experience they're having,

505
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 1: but we're running pretty tight together. And the only space

506
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 1: sometimes you have between you and the person in front

507
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 1: of you is just whatever your stride length is, so

508
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 1: whatever as far as you could put your foot to

509
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 1: not kick the other person as you're running sometimes is

510
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,679
Speaker 1: the best you can do. And somebody's behind you, so

511
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,120
Speaker 1: you all cramped together. And that was a young lady.

512
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 1: What mile was it, baby?

513
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 3: She It was like around mile nine, eight or nine.

514
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 1: She stopped cold in front of me. Imagine driving forty

515
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 1: miles an hour behind somebody half a car link and

516
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 1: they just stop and just throwing the brakes. She stopped.

517
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 1: She didn't slow, she didn't look around, she just stopped running.

518
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,439
Speaker 1: And to keep from running over her, I had to

519
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,160
Speaker 1: adjust in a very awkward way with my feet once again,

520
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 1: ended up probably what fifteen feet off the course, off

521
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 1: in the.

522
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 3: Grass, screaming from my air pods. And I was and

523
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 3: I turned around and I saw you flying off the course,

524
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh my god, what just happened?

525
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 1: So this is all for me. You come all this way,

526
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 1: and you do all this training, and I'm already have

527
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 1: a bad foot, and something like that happened. I was

528
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 1: furious at that woman. She doesn't no, obviously, but those

529
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,239
Speaker 1: things added up. If this was a training run, I

530
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 1: told you, I probably would have stopped at mile seven

531
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 1: to eight, certainly.

532
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,400
Speaker 3: Nine, and said, yeah, when that happened, for sure.

533
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 1: Can't go any farther. I'm done. I would have, but

534
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 1: because of this, and who knows what damage I do

535
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 1: to my foot now. But here we are. We finished,

536
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: got to the end. I think after was at the

537
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 1: New York Marathon. You immediately went to the right, put

538
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,199
Speaker 1: your head down because you were abut to start puking,

539
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 1: so which I did, comes over and starts talking to

540
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 1: you and wants to say how are you doing and

541
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: all this. It's the last thing you want. And at

542
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,120
Speaker 1: that time it was an older guy, and I'll say, hey, man,

543
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: we got it. Just step off, yep, I got her.

544
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 1: We're gonna be okay. Stop talking. There was a woman

545
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 1: that came over to me and was trying to help

546
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 1: the volunteer and I looked at you. I said, handle this.

547
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you were I mean, you were in significant

548
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 3: pain and you just needed a beat. And I was like,

549
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 3: he's fine, he's injured. Does he need a wheelchair? Does he?

550
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 3: I was like, no, he does not. He will be

551
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 3: all right. We just need a second, please just a second.

552
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 3: Just please give him some space.

553
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 1: I love, and I've done that to you several times.

554
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 1: I look at you in certain situations, you know, either

555
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: handle it not well, or I pissed or I'm about

556
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 1: to get Please just take care of this. But we

557
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 1: make it out of there very slowly. I can barely really,

558
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: I could barely walk it that you. Yeah, Well, we

559
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: get up to it and I can't calm down. I

560
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 1: can't get to go down. I got total shakes, chills,

561
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 1: My stomach is jecked and nothing's in it. By the way,

562
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 1: I started drinking a little water. But this was very

563
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 1: familiar to you and very familiar to me because we

564
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: all just went through this recently. But you go through

565
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: this all the time.

566
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 3: I do, and I know that feeling of just that

567
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 3: unbelievable nausea when you've your body is in trauma. Your

568
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 3: body has been taxed for whether whether it's an injury

569
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 3: or whether it was just putting itself through so much

570
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 3: with the run itself you were. I know that's exactly

571
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 3: how I felt at mile twenty two all the way

572
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 3: until we like I puked at a final time at

573
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 3: the Fulton subway station. So I know, your body just

574
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,199
Speaker 3: has to get it out, and so sure enough, you

575
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 3: had to get it out.

576
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 1: And that's what we were again. It was fresh on

577
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: our minds, and I felt confident about what was wrong

578
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:09,959
Speaker 1: because I was in an ambulance with a nurse who

579
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 1: was explaining it to me in Chicago. He said, your

580
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 1: body is in trauma. It is trying to fight it off.

581
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 1: That's why you have the fever. It's fighting That's why

582
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: you have the chills, and that's why you feel like

583
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: you got a puke. But that's she was saying. That's

584
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: a good thing.

585
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 3: It's a good sign because your body is healing it

586
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 3: your body.

587
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 1: Is reacting and healing. And sure enough, on the back

588
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 1: of that ambulance, I was up chucking, and sure enough

589
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: in here because we were getting dressed and getting ready.

590
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 3: For we had dinner at eight fau.

591
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 1: I said, Babs, give me a few momentutes, just give

592
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: me a few moments, and I was I wanted to

593
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 1: be in fetal position and not walking around.

594
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 3: It was awful, I know.

595
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: And it wasn't even the feeling anymore. It was the

596
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: stomach that hadn't settled down from the trauma and the

597
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 1: whole thing going on.

598
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 3: And I told you the way you felt, I was like,

599
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 3: that is why I am so afraid to run another marathon,

600
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 3: because it is the worst feeling in the world. But yes,

601
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,439
Speaker 3: I know that that you know. And we always have

602
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 3: said this. We wish we remembered her name, the kind

603
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 3: woman in the ambulance and ch But saying that to

604
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 3: you is such a reassurance because you actually feel like

605
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 3: you're gonna die and you're like okay, this is my

606
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 3: body healing itself. This is my body is supposed to do.

607
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 3: And it just makes you feel better in the moment,

608
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 3: knowing you're gonna be okay, and this is the path

609
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 3: to get out of it. You have to puke.

610
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: So this was we finished the race at what time? Baby?

611
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 3: Uh?

612
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:19,439
Speaker 2: Six?

613
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: Around six? So? And I remember this particular because the

614
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 1: dinner reservation was for eight. And I yelled in and said, babe,

615
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,360
Speaker 1: what because we have you had? You were sitting there,

616
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 1: sitting dressed, waiting.

617
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 3: I think rose in my hand.

618
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: Now, I think you had your personal on yours. You

619
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: were ready to go. So she's waiting on me. And

620
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: I yelled out, what time is it? And you told

621
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: me it was seven forty eight and the reservation was

622
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: around the corner, so that wasn't any issue. And I said, babe,

623
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: let me have these last seven minutes. So I was

624
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: thinking it was going to be seven fifty five.

625
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 3: You said, I'll be out and seven to fifty five ready.

626
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: To go, all right? And then I walked in here

627
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 1: to say that to you, and I remember that the

628
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: time had changed by one minute and it was now

629
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: seven forty nine. I said, oh, now, I only got

630
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: six minutes to get this worked out. And I go

631
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: back to the back and I'm just waiting. I think

632
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: I was actually posting something on Instagram. I was just waiting,

633
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: and sure enough the moment came, and I mean everything

634
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: came out.

635
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 3: You felt so much better.

636
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: Well the first thing I said when I came out, well, baby,

637
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: I certainly feel better.

638
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, you had a sparkle back in your eye.

639
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: The freshman teeth twenty two times. And we went out

640
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,719
Speaker 1: to dinner and have good night last night. But that's

641
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: our experience here. But really, baby, I think we do.

642
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: We don't appreciate enough, but we get to do the

643
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: fact that we got to come here, the fact that

644
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: we're healthy enough, the ages we are to run. I

645
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: have marathon and the whole experience to do it with you,

646
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 1: working with you and being in a relationship with everything

647
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: happened this week, So it's cool, and I do I

648
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: think we skipped over sometimes how blessed we are. Did

649
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: I just have things, would be able to do things.

650
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: The guy yesterday will chair Yah did the half marathon

651
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: and we talked about those hills. They weren't huge hills.

652
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 1: You're running up huge inclines, but still slight Inclind, I

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Speaker 1: would feel. But it was a guy in a wheelchair

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Speaker 1: doing this thing. And the time I passed him was

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Speaker 1: on a hill.

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Speaker 3: Same and everybody on that.

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Speaker 1: Hill gave him a round of applause as we were

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Speaker 1: running by him. That was just that's fucking.

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Speaker 3: Awesome, it really and it's just it's a testament to

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Speaker 3: the human spirit. You see people struggling, even those folks walking,

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Speaker 3: they were out there doing something, trying to do something

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Speaker 3: maybe they had never done before. And that's really cool.

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Speaker 1: So appreciate the experience. Always appreciate you all coming along

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Speaker 1: with us for the literal or figurative morning runs Mondays

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Speaker 1: through Friday. But I always appreciated folks for by Yeah you

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Speaker 1: don't stand out here, you blend.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just like everyone else. Yes, we all look alike.

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Speaker 3: Don't wet blondes around him.

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Speaker 1: But folks for my blonde blue Roebuck TJ. Holmes will

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Speaker 1: see also

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Speaker 3: That token