1 00:00:15,316 --> 00:00:22,796 Speaker 1: Pushkin. Yeah, have you ever done like an RV trip 2 00:00:23,316 --> 00:00:26,156 Speaker 1: Lan life? You mean Van Life? Yeah, I think we 3 00:00:26,436 --> 00:00:28,636 Speaker 1: can't do van life. I go, van life got ruined 4 00:00:29,036 --> 00:00:31,716 Speaker 1: this summer COVID. You can't get a sprinter or a 5 00:00:31,796 --> 00:00:35,196 Speaker 1: VW like in any reason price. And then it became 6 00:00:35,236 --> 00:00:38,996 Speaker 1: like a hashtag Instagram tiktoki thing like van life. Right, 7 00:00:39,276 --> 00:00:45,796 Speaker 1: it just feels like the van life got gentrified. I 8 00:00:45,836 --> 00:00:49,636 Speaker 1: hope you enjoyed. These five highly produced episodes of Not 9 00:00:49,836 --> 00:00:53,716 Speaker 1: Lost in between seasons will be tackling such diverse topics 10 00:00:53,716 --> 00:00:58,196 Speaker 1: as the gentrification of van Life. Turn in next week 11 00:00:58,236 --> 00:01:06,476 Speaker 1: for a conversation. This is Not Lost California so far, 12 00:01:06,476 --> 00:01:09,836 Speaker 1: how everybody feeling. I'm Brendan France has new him feel 13 00:01:09,836 --> 00:01:11,996 Speaker 1: great that it's not New York. That's my friend, the 14 00:01:12,036 --> 00:01:15,956 Speaker 1: audio producer John Delor, just like it is an incredible 15 00:01:16,036 --> 00:01:19,116 Speaker 1: joy to just be out of the city. It's April 16 00:01:19,156 --> 00:01:22,636 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, and after a two year hiatus spent 17 00:01:22,716 --> 00:01:25,596 Speaker 1: hunkering down in New York City due to COVID, we're 18 00:01:25,636 --> 00:01:29,196 Speaker 1: heading toward the opposite of the Big Apple, Big Sir, 19 00:01:29,836 --> 00:01:35,676 Speaker 1: eighty miles of vodness along the rugged coast of Central California. 20 00:01:36,316 --> 00:01:40,716 Speaker 1: Look at these beaches, taking in the coastal beauty. It's 21 00:01:40,716 --> 00:01:43,236 Speaker 1: hard to remember why I ever left California, Like, what 22 00:01:43,276 --> 00:01:45,516 Speaker 1: do we do in their lives? Oh, that house is 23 00:01:45,516 --> 00:01:50,276 Speaker 1: for sale. Maybe the world speaking to me? Live right there, 24 00:01:51,076 --> 00:01:57,516 Speaker 1: work remotely, make podcasts, eat soup. So you've been to 25 00:01:57,556 --> 00:01:59,956 Speaker 1: Big Sir? How many times I was thinking about on 26 00:01:59,956 --> 00:02:03,556 Speaker 1: the plane. I think like eleven or twelve times. What 27 00:02:03,636 --> 00:02:06,156 Speaker 1: was the first time? Big Sir is not new to me. 28 00:02:06,876 --> 00:02:09,116 Speaker 1: Years back, when I lived in California, I would visit 29 00:02:09,156 --> 00:02:11,636 Speaker 1: it all the time, and like many before me, I 30 00:02:11,796 --> 00:02:14,956 Speaker 1: was seduced by the areas looming redwood forests and mountains 31 00:02:14,996 --> 00:02:20,196 Speaker 1: on one side, the bananas wow and the drama of cliffs, 32 00:02:20,516 --> 00:02:23,316 Speaker 1: rock and ocean on the other. Look at the shoreline. 33 00:02:23,356 --> 00:02:25,836 Speaker 1: It's accessible for like a stretch, and then it just 34 00:02:25,996 --> 00:02:29,116 Speaker 1: turns into the sort of cliffs. It is hard to 35 00:02:29,116 --> 00:02:33,796 Speaker 1: overstate house dunning, Big Sir is. It is an Edenic wilderness. 36 00:02:33,996 --> 00:02:37,676 Speaker 1: It is Beethoven, the taj Mahal for let Mignon, Queen 37 00:02:37,716 --> 00:02:41,036 Speaker 1: em On, all of it all in one. And yet 38 00:02:41,076 --> 00:02:43,636 Speaker 1: what really makes the special for me are the thinkers, 39 00:02:43,796 --> 00:02:46,876 Speaker 1: artists and writers who live and visit here. Despite being 40 00:02:46,876 --> 00:02:49,676 Speaker 1: remote in Big s a book of poetry or a 41 00:02:49,676 --> 00:02:52,556 Speaker 1: good conversation are not hard to find. I can't believe 42 00:02:52,596 --> 00:02:56,556 Speaker 1: I can't find parking in Big s Okay, come on out, 43 00:02:57,036 --> 00:03:00,116 Speaker 1: you lay in your horn, no want to You can 44 00:03:00,116 --> 00:03:08,076 Speaker 1: take the guy out of New York City. I'd rather 45 00:03:08,156 --> 00:03:10,836 Speaker 1: live a life that's a little on edge, like wildfires, 46 00:03:10,876 --> 00:03:15,196 Speaker 1: mountain lions, and then paradise and elation, those two ends 47 00:03:15,196 --> 00:03:17,956 Speaker 1: of the spectrum, then this monotonous middle of the road 48 00:03:18,116 --> 00:03:19,956 Speaker 1: stuff that I was ever mentioned. When we arrive in 49 00:03:19,956 --> 00:03:22,716 Speaker 1: Big Sir village, we strike up a chat with a radiant, 50 00:03:22,996 --> 00:03:26,316 Speaker 1: even beatific looking stranger named Jake Podour. How did you 51 00:03:26,396 --> 00:03:30,556 Speaker 1: end up in Big Sir? I ended up here by accident, 52 00:03:30,636 --> 00:03:33,356 Speaker 1: which most other residents of Big sur will say the same. 53 00:03:33,436 --> 00:03:36,516 Speaker 1: They didn't actually try to live here. Jake is young, 54 00:03:36,796 --> 00:03:39,556 Speaker 1: has a short beard and baggy clothes, with the touch 55 00:03:39,596 --> 00:03:43,636 Speaker 1: of Bohemian flair, music and spirit. If I do say so, 56 00:03:43,876 --> 00:03:46,236 Speaker 1: is really the reason why I ended up here? Yeah? 57 00:03:46,716 --> 00:03:48,596 Speaker 1: I found myself in La trying to do the music 58 00:03:48,636 --> 00:03:51,436 Speaker 1: thing and it just was making me feel lost, and 59 00:03:51,516 --> 00:03:54,996 Speaker 1: I was luckily cradled by this beautiful land. I mean 60 00:03:55,076 --> 00:03:56,796 Speaker 1: is there enough to do as just a big sur 61 00:03:57,036 --> 00:03:59,796 Speaker 1: like young guy living here, Like you can get off 62 00:03:59,836 --> 00:04:04,276 Speaker 1: work to get by? Oh now I can before you know, 63 00:04:04,396 --> 00:04:08,276 Speaker 1: living in my car saving money on rent. That made 64 00:04:08,316 --> 00:04:10,396 Speaker 1: it work out for me in that sense. But are 65 00:04:10,396 --> 00:04:12,996 Speaker 1: there there a lot of car life going on? There is. 66 00:04:13,116 --> 00:04:15,236 Speaker 1: There's a lot of car life, a lot of transients, 67 00:04:15,236 --> 00:04:18,516 Speaker 1: and a lot of multi millionaires and not much more 68 00:04:18,556 --> 00:04:20,836 Speaker 1: in between. But right now I have a work trade situation. 69 00:04:20,876 --> 00:04:23,676 Speaker 1: I garden for this lady's property and live in a 70 00:04:23,676 --> 00:04:27,556 Speaker 1: little shack and play music, and people seem to enjoy that. 71 00:04:32,836 --> 00:04:34,236 Speaker 1: My journey is I ended up in the middle of 72 00:04:34,236 --> 00:04:36,036 Speaker 1: the road, and I've kind of been digging it because 73 00:04:36,076 --> 00:04:40,796 Speaker 1: I spent so much time not but I'm remembering those 74 00:04:40,796 --> 00:04:42,156 Speaker 1: old feelings of what it's like to be on the 75 00:04:42,236 --> 00:04:47,356 Speaker 1: road and to be someplace so dramatic. How is how 76 00:04:47,356 --> 00:04:48,716 Speaker 1: what is it like being in a place where people 77 00:04:48,716 --> 00:04:51,996 Speaker 1: are like travelers like us are coming through constantly, constantly, 78 00:04:52,116 --> 00:04:55,476 Speaker 1: Like is it it's a beautiful or is it it's invigorating. 79 00:04:55,516 --> 00:04:57,916 Speaker 1: I'm meeting people from all over the world. I feel 80 00:04:57,916 --> 00:05:01,676 Speaker 1: like I'm touring through vast lands, but really I'm just 81 00:05:01,756 --> 00:05:04,636 Speaker 1: on this eighty mile stretch of coastline, and I'm just 82 00:05:04,716 --> 00:05:07,876 Speaker 1: meeting all the most wonderful characters. As Henry Miller said 83 00:05:07,996 --> 00:05:09,956 Speaker 1: in Big Sirs, they put and watch the world go 84 00:05:10,076 --> 00:05:12,116 Speaker 1: rounds to these people who are going to be here 85 00:05:12,116 --> 00:05:16,516 Speaker 1: for decades. Who knows it's transitory, as you said to me, 86 00:05:16,676 --> 00:05:19,276 Speaker 1: it is. It's it's fun to think about some visions 87 00:05:19,356 --> 00:05:21,956 Speaker 1: or the future. But um, I notice, I'm happiest one. 88 00:05:21,996 --> 00:05:24,916 Speaker 1: I'm just right here right now. Yeah, day by day, 89 00:05:25,196 --> 00:05:33,116 Speaker 1: hour by hour, moment by moment. When we left Jake, 90 00:05:33,236 --> 00:05:36,916 Speaker 1: his words rang in my ears. Yeah, let's be right 91 00:05:36,956 --> 00:05:40,796 Speaker 1: here right now, which I interpreted to mean let's get 92 00:05:40,836 --> 00:05:46,036 Speaker 1: into the nature we travel so far to explore. Took 93 00:05:46,036 --> 00:05:47,876 Speaker 1: it right off the one. It was time to visit 94 00:05:47,916 --> 00:05:54,356 Speaker 1: the beach, driving directly off the continent of North America, said, 95 00:05:55,316 --> 00:06:00,236 Speaker 1: come up to the edge. Do you know this one? 96 00:06:01,356 --> 00:06:03,996 Speaker 1: Beach Boys? Right? So I found this song when I 97 00:06:04,036 --> 00:06:06,476 Speaker 1: was making a playlist for the trip. I knew one 98 00:06:06,476 --> 00:06:07,996 Speaker 1: of them lived up here, but I didn't know they 99 00:06:07,996 --> 00:06:14,116 Speaker 1: were in a song about it. Yea, before we can 100 00:06:14,196 --> 00:06:16,316 Speaker 1: hit the beach, we stop at a little gatehouse to 101 00:06:16,356 --> 00:06:20,396 Speaker 1: buy a day pass for our car. Good morning, twelve dollars. Yeah, 102 00:06:20,436 --> 00:06:23,636 Speaker 1: we take cash or card whatever. Okay, is it busy 103 00:06:23,716 --> 00:06:26,836 Speaker 1: or slow today? Starting to pick up a little bit? Yeah, 104 00:06:27,076 --> 00:06:29,956 Speaker 1: slower than it was yesterday at this time. Right, still 105 00:06:29,956 --> 00:06:32,916 Speaker 1: a weekend. All right, thank you for this, got a problem. 106 00:06:32,916 --> 00:06:34,716 Speaker 1: You guys are all set to go have great afternoon? 107 00:06:34,756 --> 00:06:40,236 Speaker 1: All right, thank you you. What do we think his 108 00:06:40,316 --> 00:06:42,996 Speaker 1: life out of a scott one to ten? I'm thinking ten? Right, 109 00:06:43,236 --> 00:06:45,756 Speaker 1: It seems like super happy. He seems happy. He's like 110 00:06:45,836 --> 00:06:50,556 Speaker 1: living near the beach. I'm trying not to be jealous. 111 00:06:50,716 --> 00:07:05,436 Speaker 1: Oh wait, oh dick, I'm gonna go put my feet 112 00:07:05,436 --> 00:07:08,396 Speaker 1: in the water. Okay, yeah, all right, let's do it. 113 00:07:08,436 --> 00:07:10,036 Speaker 1: But we're gonna have to. It's not sure it's what 114 00:07:10,116 --> 00:07:13,636 Speaker 1: we're gonna show some calf all right, urt your eyes 115 00:07:13,756 --> 00:07:16,996 Speaker 1: because my calves have not seen the sun and years. 116 00:07:19,196 --> 00:07:26,556 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, wow, this feels like the opposite of a 117 00:07:26,636 --> 00:07:32,716 Speaker 1: zoom call. It's good to touch the water. That sounds 118 00:07:32,716 --> 00:07:35,796 Speaker 1: a little bit like the beginning of creation. There's like 119 00:07:35,916 --> 00:07:40,036 Speaker 1: mist these beautiful flowers, these purple piano, the edges in 120 00:07:40,076 --> 00:07:42,196 Speaker 1: the green right into the water. It looks like this 121 00:07:42,276 --> 00:07:47,556 Speaker 1: is where man sprung forth. Yeahs such an interesting beach. Experience. 122 00:07:47,596 --> 00:07:51,116 Speaker 1: Though you come here, you're not swimming today because it's cold. 123 00:07:51,316 --> 00:07:52,956 Speaker 1: I don't think you could swim here, could you? Are 124 00:07:52,956 --> 00:07:56,116 Speaker 1: the waves too much? You can do whatever you want here. 125 00:07:56,916 --> 00:08:09,516 Speaker 1: But it's so goddamn beautiful that that is enough. There's 126 00:08:09,556 --> 00:08:13,276 Speaker 1: something something about over there. I can't tell if it's 127 00:08:13,276 --> 00:08:16,476 Speaker 1: a lot you actually look up right, if that's a 128 00:08:16,516 --> 00:08:21,476 Speaker 1: piece of driftwood or crazy seaweed. The large brown thing 129 00:08:21,476 --> 00:08:26,116 Speaker 1: down there, Yeah, that it's moving. I don't think that's 130 00:08:26,116 --> 00:08:35,236 Speaker 1: a long Let's go check it out, all right, Oh, 131 00:08:35,356 --> 00:08:38,676 Speaker 1: check that out. Those are the elephant seals. Wow, Oh 132 00:08:38,756 --> 00:08:50,396 Speaker 1: my god, look at these these things are massive. Wow. 133 00:08:53,636 --> 00:08:55,396 Speaker 1: Like when you come up to this, it looks like 134 00:08:55,436 --> 00:08:59,596 Speaker 1: a battlefield with all these like fallen soldiers. Yeah, you 135 00:08:59,676 --> 00:09:03,836 Speaker 1: see battlefield. My read is like Rockaway Beach, like sort 136 00:09:03,876 --> 00:09:06,036 Speaker 1: of mid August on a Wednesday, when there's not too 137 00:09:06,076 --> 00:09:09,476 Speaker 1: many people and everyone's really quiet. Everyone's got enough space 138 00:09:09,516 --> 00:09:13,796 Speaker 1: for their blanket, but everyone they're just all very chill. 139 00:09:13,876 --> 00:09:15,636 Speaker 1: Right now. I feel like they just parted their brains 140 00:09:15,676 --> 00:09:19,996 Speaker 1: out right. It's got that five what I'm saying. Trapsing 141 00:09:20,116 --> 00:09:23,356 Speaker 1: between the blobs of napping elephant seals was a figure 142 00:09:23,676 --> 00:09:28,196 Speaker 1: holding a clipboard. John and I waved and they approached us. 143 00:09:28,236 --> 00:09:31,436 Speaker 1: I'm Brendan Arena. John. Nice to me, what are you 144 00:09:31,476 --> 00:09:35,036 Speaker 1: doing here? So? I'm currently working on my PhD, and 145 00:09:35,236 --> 00:09:38,236 Speaker 1: this morning I was actually just out doing recites, and 146 00:09:38,276 --> 00:09:41,596 Speaker 1: so I was out looking at their flipper tags. Oh 147 00:09:41,676 --> 00:09:44,596 Speaker 1: no way, Well, look at this guy scratching his side. 148 00:09:46,236 --> 00:09:49,076 Speaker 1: Get How do they move? It's like such a dumb 149 00:09:49,076 --> 00:09:53,076 Speaker 1: basic How do they move? We have a very scientific 150 00:09:53,196 --> 00:09:56,196 Speaker 1: term for that on land. It's called glumping. So it's 151 00:09:56,556 --> 00:10:02,396 Speaker 1: galumping galumping. Have you ever seen that dance move the worm? Yeah, 152 00:10:03,036 --> 00:10:08,396 Speaker 1: really looks like that. That's incredible. So why do they 153 00:10:08,396 --> 00:10:12,676 Speaker 1: come here this spot? Yeah? So they actually come back 154 00:10:12,716 --> 00:10:14,836 Speaker 1: to each of these colonies because that's where they were 155 00:10:14,876 --> 00:10:17,276 Speaker 1: born and that's where they know to go. Is there 156 00:10:17,316 --> 00:10:19,556 Speaker 1: a scientific word for that sort of thing, like that 157 00:10:19,636 --> 00:10:22,596 Speaker 1: behavior of like going back to where you came from. Yeah, 158 00:10:22,636 --> 00:10:26,796 Speaker 1: it's known as like Philopatrick, Philopatrick. I like that. It's 159 00:10:26,836 --> 00:10:30,636 Speaker 1: like like after college, I was Philopatrick. I just ended 160 00:10:30,716 --> 00:10:44,036 Speaker 1: up in my dad's basement. And so where do they 161 00:10:44,036 --> 00:10:45,956 Speaker 1: go when they're not here? So they spend most of 162 00:10:45,996 --> 00:10:49,916 Speaker 1: their time out at sea? Okay, the adult females will 163 00:10:49,956 --> 00:10:52,796 Speaker 1: go out to the middle of the Pacific Ocean. I 164 00:10:52,836 --> 00:10:55,636 Speaker 1: think their round trip can come in at about ten 165 00:10:55,716 --> 00:11:01,276 Speaker 1: thousand kilometers that they're doing, and then after about two 166 00:11:01,356 --> 00:11:05,556 Speaker 1: months they come back to molt and while they're on land, 167 00:11:05,556 --> 00:11:09,276 Speaker 1: they're fasting the entire time, and then they'll go back 168 00:11:09,276 --> 00:11:13,196 Speaker 1: out to see for seven months, putting on a ton 169 00:11:13,236 --> 00:11:16,316 Speaker 1: of mass to then come back for the breeding seasoning. 170 00:11:16,476 --> 00:11:18,356 Speaker 1: I'm looking at them, I'm like inspired, Like I feel 171 00:11:18,396 --> 00:11:20,516 Speaker 1: like I moved way too much in New York that 172 00:11:20,636 --> 00:11:22,116 Speaker 1: I need to spend a little bit more in my 173 00:11:22,156 --> 00:11:25,436 Speaker 1: life focusing on the basics, which is napping. It looks 174 00:11:25,476 --> 00:11:28,836 Speaker 1: to me, maybe finding a good mate, maybe having some 175 00:11:28,956 --> 00:11:32,436 Speaker 1: kids for me. I was drawn to them by what 176 00:11:32,476 --> 00:11:34,276 Speaker 1: they can do out in the sea, because that is 177 00:11:34,316 --> 00:11:38,036 Speaker 1: really like how they make a living out there, you know, 178 00:11:38,116 --> 00:11:40,116 Speaker 1: Like it's really if they don't do well out there, 179 00:11:40,276 --> 00:11:41,676 Speaker 1: they're not going to be able to come back on 180 00:11:41,756 --> 00:11:44,116 Speaker 1: land and do well online. Right, So this is classic me. 181 00:11:44,196 --> 00:11:47,476 Speaker 1: I'm looking at them just chilling out after the result 182 00:11:47,476 --> 00:11:49,556 Speaker 1: of all their hard work, and I'm like, I want that. 183 00:11:51,796 --> 00:11:53,756 Speaker 1: I don't want to do the ten thousand hours of 184 00:11:53,756 --> 00:11:57,636 Speaker 1: work that allows this to happen. It's pretty amazing. Do 185 00:11:57,676 --> 00:11:59,316 Speaker 1: you know any of the like these ones that are 186 00:11:59,356 --> 00:12:02,996 Speaker 1: laid on the beach, any of them are familiar? We 187 00:12:03,076 --> 00:12:07,036 Speaker 1: do have. Yes, there is this one girl eighteen eighty 188 00:12:07,036 --> 00:12:10,716 Speaker 1: five who I believe is twenty this year, all right, 189 00:12:10,756 --> 00:12:13,236 Speaker 1: and I think she held the record for the deepest 190 00:12:13,316 --> 00:12:17,436 Speaker 1: dive of the seals that we've instrumented, Yeah, which was 191 00:12:17,476 --> 00:12:21,636 Speaker 1: about two hours and down to one thousand, seven hundred meters. 192 00:12:22,116 --> 00:12:25,036 Speaker 1: That's so cool. We know we have her her track 193 00:12:25,196 --> 00:12:28,036 Speaker 1: from that year, and then we actually chacked her several 194 00:12:28,116 --> 00:12:30,956 Speaker 1: years later. It seems like she's doing the same thing 195 00:12:31,396 --> 00:12:34,916 Speaker 1: every year. And it was where to go. The idea 196 00:12:34,956 --> 00:12:36,716 Speaker 1: that they keep coming back to where they came from, 197 00:12:36,876 --> 00:12:40,196 Speaker 1: like ISRAELI intriguing to me. But thank you so much 198 00:12:40,276 --> 00:12:43,916 Speaker 1: for yeah, sharing your work with us. Yeah, this is beautiful. 199 00:12:43,956 --> 00:12:46,276 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Yeah, it's nice to be able 200 00:12:46,276 --> 00:12:48,236 Speaker 1: to come out on the beach and run across someone 201 00:12:48,276 --> 00:12:50,436 Speaker 1: who just hangs out with these credits all the time. 202 00:12:51,196 --> 00:12:53,436 Speaker 1: You guys are heading south, right, Well, we might go 203 00:12:53,476 --> 00:12:56,156 Speaker 1: to there's this place in Pescudero. Have you ever been 204 00:12:56,196 --> 00:13:01,276 Speaker 1: to Duarts? No? Oh my god, it has He's got 205 00:13:01,276 --> 00:13:06,276 Speaker 1: this supup So there's this soup I used to again 206 00:13:06,436 --> 00:13:10,956 Speaker 1: every time I visited Big I might have mentioned it 207 00:13:11,036 --> 00:13:14,116 Speaker 1: once or twice while planning for this trend inflatable soup 208 00:13:14,476 --> 00:13:17,076 Speaker 1: cream of artichoke made from artichoke they pick in the cart, 209 00:13:17,236 --> 00:13:20,676 Speaker 1: cream of vartach utter garlic. I first encountered it in 210 00:13:20,756 --> 00:13:23,236 Speaker 1: years two pounds of artichokes, and now I make a 211 00:13:23,276 --> 00:13:25,756 Speaker 1: pilgrimage to eat it anytime I'm nearby. If you know, 212 00:13:25,796 --> 00:13:27,716 Speaker 1: if you've been there, you can order off menu the 213 00:13:27,756 --> 00:13:30,796 Speaker 1: fifty fifth blended with this chili verde soup, which is 214 00:13:30,876 --> 00:13:34,956 Speaker 1: more pecant and spicy, chick in stock, heavy cream, salt, pepper. 215 00:13:35,076 --> 00:13:37,836 Speaker 1: In my mind, it contains more than just neutri super 216 00:13:37,916 --> 00:13:41,396 Speaker 1: grounding and almost woods like a metaphor for the ideal life. 217 00:13:41,436 --> 00:13:45,036 Speaker 1: It contains wisdom for living. You know, the soup's grounded 218 00:13:45,196 --> 00:13:46,996 Speaker 1: but spice. I've kind of been thinking about this soup 219 00:13:47,036 --> 00:13:49,116 Speaker 1: for five years, and soup is not the main reason 220 00:13:49,276 --> 00:13:52,196 Speaker 1: I decided to visit California. Soup that you talk about 221 00:13:52,236 --> 00:13:55,036 Speaker 1: all the time, but I just want to make sure 222 00:13:55,036 --> 00:13:57,476 Speaker 1: we hit it if we're traveling there, certainly played a 223 00:13:57,556 --> 00:13:59,116 Speaker 1: role in my decision. You gotta do the math this 224 00:13:59,276 --> 00:14:01,996 Speaker 1: even makes sense to go back. Unfortunately, because we have 225 00:14:02,036 --> 00:14:04,116 Speaker 1: to backtrack and go the other way, we didn't have 226 00:14:04,156 --> 00:14:05,956 Speaker 1: time to stop there. On the way down to being Soup, 227 00:14:09,356 --> 00:14:12,836 Speaker 1: and after our jount to the beach, the jet lag 228 00:14:12,916 --> 00:14:17,596 Speaker 1: hit us like a wave of molasses. So we checked 229 00:14:17,596 --> 00:14:21,596 Speaker 1: into the cabin, unpacked the car, and when we were 230 00:14:21,636 --> 00:14:26,276 Speaker 1: settled it was dark, and not bluish city dark, but 231 00:14:26,436 --> 00:14:31,676 Speaker 1: squid ink black dark. We lit a fire, opened a 232 00:14:31,716 --> 00:14:35,076 Speaker 1: bottle of mescow, and continued to try to be in 233 00:14:35,116 --> 00:14:47,436 Speaker 1: the present. Big God plans and mine, I'll go into 234 00:14:49,356 --> 00:15:22,476 Speaker 1: ourselves to your Dave two Walmond cappuccinos. Some people know 235 00:15:22,516 --> 00:15:25,876 Speaker 1: the best fishing spots or a good place to catch waves, 236 00:15:25,876 --> 00:15:29,756 Speaker 1: to surf. I'm like that for coffee shops. Even in 237 00:15:29,796 --> 00:15:31,956 Speaker 1: the wilderness, I can hear the siren call of a 238 00:15:32,036 --> 00:15:35,356 Speaker 1: milk frother. And thus the next morning we proceeded to 239 00:15:35,396 --> 00:15:38,596 Speaker 1: Big Sur Bakery, a casual eatery nestled in the hills 240 00:15:38,596 --> 00:15:45,036 Speaker 1: off of Highway One. So, John, I've been to Big 241 00:15:45,036 --> 00:15:49,036 Speaker 1: Sur Bakery dozens of times. What was your what's your experience? 242 00:15:50,796 --> 00:15:52,436 Speaker 1: All right? So, first of all, it's across from the 243 00:15:52,476 --> 00:15:57,036 Speaker 1: most beautiful gas station of all time, like it makes 244 00:15:57,076 --> 00:16:00,396 Speaker 1: gas look probably good for the planet, Like you imagine 245 00:16:00,436 --> 00:16:02,076 Speaker 1: that the person who works in there is like extremely 246 00:16:02,156 --> 00:16:06,996 Speaker 1: fit and doing yoga in between a humping gas bakery 247 00:16:07,076 --> 00:16:11,956 Speaker 1: is good. I mean, I've got like this, what is it? 248 00:16:11,996 --> 00:16:13,836 Speaker 1: What did you order? Why am I? It's a blueberry 249 00:16:13,836 --> 00:16:17,916 Speaker 1: strudle bluebers at least like two pounds of blue blueberries. Seriously, 250 00:16:17,956 --> 00:16:19,396 Speaker 1: but I had to give it to you because they 251 00:16:19,436 --> 00:16:22,636 Speaker 1: did not announce there was almond flower, right, and you 252 00:16:22,636 --> 00:16:24,476 Speaker 1: you like you threw it down like like it was 253 00:16:24,516 --> 00:16:28,596 Speaker 1: like a wet ragular. This is going to close off 254 00:16:28,636 --> 00:16:30,796 Speaker 1: my throat. But yeah, or you could just say I 255 00:16:30,796 --> 00:16:32,236 Speaker 1: threw it down like what you know. Either way you 256 00:16:32,236 --> 00:16:34,836 Speaker 1: could act like I'm being pretentious, or we can talk 257 00:16:34,836 --> 00:16:40,916 Speaker 1: about a medical condition. Yeah, but no. The pastry cabinet 258 00:16:40,916 --> 00:16:43,036 Speaker 1: here is like of the gods, and there's like a 259 00:16:43,116 --> 00:16:49,796 Speaker 1: little pursudo greer cheese loaves and vegetable for tatas. Let's 260 00:16:49,796 --> 00:16:51,596 Speaker 1: since you have a question though, you so when I 261 00:16:51,636 --> 00:16:54,396 Speaker 1: gave you my blueberry, it's going due to my medical emergency. 262 00:16:55,876 --> 00:16:57,716 Speaker 1: You were like, oh, well you can eat my ginger skull, 263 00:16:57,716 --> 00:17:00,236 Speaker 1: which is very generous of you, right, but ginger is 264 00:17:00,236 --> 00:17:02,316 Speaker 1: like kind of a coffee killer, you know. I mean 265 00:17:02,596 --> 00:17:05,636 Speaker 1: it's like the flavored ginger intersecting the coffee. To me, 266 00:17:05,716 --> 00:17:09,116 Speaker 1: it feels like I'm taking a pill. It's like gingers. 267 00:17:09,156 --> 00:17:12,396 Speaker 1: So huh. I don't know. I found the collision a little. 268 00:17:12,636 --> 00:17:14,156 Speaker 1: I think it's like having like a cookie or like 269 00:17:14,236 --> 00:17:18,116 Speaker 1: a you know, it's like it's like here toothpaste in 270 00:17:18,156 --> 00:17:24,396 Speaker 1: our shoes. But thank you, You're welcome, You're welcome, Thanks 271 00:17:24,396 --> 00:17:26,196 Speaker 1: for this. It's good. It's good. I'm sorry about the 272 00:17:26,236 --> 00:17:28,596 Speaker 1: almond flower thing. Like all your glance is your throat 273 00:17:28,596 --> 00:17:33,276 Speaker 1: closing up at all. John snark rolls off me as 274 00:17:33,316 --> 00:17:35,716 Speaker 1: I happily watched the line of people in yoga pants 275 00:17:35,796 --> 00:17:39,276 Speaker 1: and hiking boots stifle yawns while waiting for their coffee orders. 276 00:17:39,476 --> 00:17:43,116 Speaker 1: Often there's a flat white John Diggins texting his wife 277 00:17:43,116 --> 00:17:45,276 Speaker 1: in New York, who he left home alone with their 278 00:17:45,316 --> 00:17:49,356 Speaker 1: two kids. You can almost feel the like, as I'm leaving, 279 00:17:49,476 --> 00:17:53,276 Speaker 1: like I'm just taking this huge like sixty pound like 280 00:17:53,436 --> 00:17:57,156 Speaker 1: flak jacket combination like old hair shirt. You know, it's 281 00:17:57,156 --> 00:17:59,716 Speaker 1: like uncomfortable and it's heavy. I just like take mine 282 00:17:59,756 --> 00:18:01,396 Speaker 1: off and like, all right, you're gonna have to wear 283 00:18:01,436 --> 00:18:07,796 Speaker 1: both of them five days already, Like I can just 284 00:18:07,876 --> 00:18:11,676 Speaker 1: feel the space or it's it's like it's quieter in 285 00:18:11,716 --> 00:18:14,076 Speaker 1: my head because there's not that like it's like you 286 00:18:14,116 --> 00:18:15,796 Speaker 1: need to get up now, you need to get their pajamas, 287 00:18:15,796 --> 00:18:16,956 Speaker 1: and then like you wake up and you open your 288 00:18:16,956 --> 00:18:19,356 Speaker 1: eyes and you're like, oh no, no, I'm in California. Yeah, 289 00:18:19,356 --> 00:18:22,236 Speaker 1: I don't have to do that today. Yeah, all right, 290 00:18:23,076 --> 00:18:26,036 Speaker 1: let's um get out here. Let's go check out Henry 291 00:18:26,036 --> 00:18:28,916 Speaker 1: Motor Library. And it's a little nonprofit because Henry Moller 292 00:18:28,996 --> 00:18:31,116 Speaker 1: used to live here. And so we'll take with Magnus, 293 00:18:31,116 --> 00:18:33,076 Speaker 1: who I've known over the years. He's seen me in 294 00:18:33,156 --> 00:18:37,476 Speaker 1: different states with different hairlinths, different partners, in different cars, 295 00:18:39,236 --> 00:18:41,516 Speaker 1: and now it's years on and I'm still still here. 296 00:18:41,516 --> 00:18:44,356 Speaker 1: You'll be the harriest partner I bring to him yet. Amazing, 297 00:18:45,836 --> 00:18:47,436 Speaker 1: Let's do it. I'm glad you're here with me. Yeah, 298 00:18:47,436 --> 00:18:57,356 Speaker 1: I'm glad. We got you out black coffee for Chelsea. 299 00:19:00,476 --> 00:19:04,436 Speaker 1: Anaphylactic shock avoided, bellies full. We hop at our rig 300 00:19:04,476 --> 00:19:08,236 Speaker 1: and mosey further down Highway one. But it's that same thing, 301 00:19:08,316 --> 00:19:11,196 Speaker 1: like do you go to those natural places to recharge 302 00:19:11,196 --> 00:19:12,996 Speaker 1: and come back Yeah, but I think like if you 303 00:19:13,076 --> 00:19:17,156 Speaker 1: do the opposite, where you're living in the country most 304 00:19:17,196 --> 00:19:19,476 Speaker 1: of the time and then going to city and coming back, 305 00:19:19,836 --> 00:19:22,236 Speaker 1: that's just like it's like the inverse of like the 306 00:19:22,276 --> 00:19:25,356 Speaker 1: thing that I think I aspire to. That's that's like 307 00:19:26,876 --> 00:19:29,276 Speaker 1: the chili verde soup is the majority and in the 308 00:19:29,316 --> 00:19:33,636 Speaker 1: middle is just a little bit of artichoke. Right, you're saying, 309 00:19:34,676 --> 00:19:37,276 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to figure out, like, if I acknowledge it, 310 00:19:37,316 --> 00:19:39,596 Speaker 1: does that mean we're going to keep talking about the soup, 311 00:19:39,716 --> 00:19:43,196 Speaker 1: or if I just we come to a little turnout 312 00:19:43,236 --> 00:19:46,116 Speaker 1: where a tiny cabin sits amidst redwood trees at the 313 00:19:46,236 --> 00:19:49,236 Speaker 1: edge of a shady glade. This is perfect. Look, there's 314 00:19:49,236 --> 00:19:52,156 Speaker 1: this old wooden sign painted yell at Henry Miller Library, 315 00:19:52,396 --> 00:20:01,436 Speaker 1: Book Music, Art. All right, let's go check it out. 316 00:20:01,956 --> 00:20:06,716 Speaker 1: The Henry Miller Library is not an actual library. It's 317 00:20:06,756 --> 00:20:09,796 Speaker 1: a nonprofit art center, bookstore, and performance space set up 318 00:20:09,796 --> 00:20:12,436 Speaker 1: as a kind of memorial to the writer. Miller had 319 00:20:12,436 --> 00:20:14,596 Speaker 1: had his fill of city life and moved to Big 320 00:20:14,636 --> 00:20:20,956 Speaker 1: Serve back in the nineteen forties. Yeah. I'm just so 321 00:20:21,036 --> 00:20:22,396 Speaker 1: happy to be here, man. I think this is the 322 00:20:22,436 --> 00:20:24,156 Speaker 1: first trip in two years and I wanted to come 323 00:20:24,236 --> 00:20:26,356 Speaker 1: right to the most beautiful place I could think of, 324 00:20:26,516 --> 00:20:28,196 Speaker 1: what do you mean, first trip in two years because 325 00:20:28,196 --> 00:20:30,836 Speaker 1: of COVID, because so the show we were making it 326 00:20:31,156 --> 00:20:34,516 Speaker 1: and then stopped right And then in that time I 327 00:20:34,556 --> 00:20:36,596 Speaker 1: got a normal job, got my hair cut, my girlfriend 328 00:20:36,636 --> 00:20:40,556 Speaker 1: moved in, bought a car, started watching TV, became an American. Yeah, 329 00:20:40,556 --> 00:20:43,036 Speaker 1: and now it's kind of tapering right, and I'm back 330 00:20:43,036 --> 00:20:46,836 Speaker 1: out here. My name is Magnus Taurum, and I've been 331 00:20:46,916 --> 00:20:49,796 Speaker 1: here at the library since nineteen ninety three, and I 332 00:20:49,876 --> 00:20:55,316 Speaker 1: come I came here from Sweden. Magnus is tall, Cladden 333 00:20:55,356 --> 00:20:58,156 Speaker 1: Denham and has a full head of silver hair doing 334 00:20:58,196 --> 00:21:02,076 Speaker 1: this kind of cool scarecrow shag thing. All right, so 335 00:21:02,156 --> 00:21:04,956 Speaker 1: can you give us a lay of the land here? Um? Well, 336 00:21:05,356 --> 00:21:08,276 Speaker 1: the library is here. It's been like this since nineteen 337 00:21:08,316 --> 00:21:11,116 Speaker 1: eighty one. Very few things have changed. People don't like 338 00:21:11,316 --> 00:21:15,276 Speaker 1: things changing here. Oftentimes people would comment on a rock 339 00:21:15,716 --> 00:21:18,116 Speaker 1: that used to be in one place and now it's moved, 340 00:21:18,476 --> 00:21:22,876 Speaker 1: and they get slightly perturbed. See that railroad tree right 341 00:21:22,876 --> 00:21:26,036 Speaker 1: there is actually classic redwood that. See how the branches 342 00:21:26,076 --> 00:21:29,316 Speaker 1: are drooping, like really drooping, hanging down. That's like the 343 00:21:29,396 --> 00:21:32,716 Speaker 1: cover tree for a book about Sequoia Sampavillians, which these are. 344 00:21:32,956 --> 00:21:35,476 Speaker 1: And when when David Crosby did his concert, which was 345 00:21:35,916 --> 00:21:38,516 Speaker 1: not that long ago, he stood on this stage and suddenly, 346 00:21:38,556 --> 00:21:40,556 Speaker 1: in the middle of the concert he stopped like this, 347 00:21:41,556 --> 00:21:44,196 Speaker 1: and they looked up and he suddenly noticed that tree, 348 00:21:44,356 --> 00:21:54,236 Speaker 1: and he said, this song is for that tree. Do 349 00:21:54,236 --> 00:21:56,516 Speaker 1: you mind telling John the story of how you ended 350 00:21:56,556 --> 00:21:59,436 Speaker 1: up in Big Sir? Initially? Initially I hitchtaged down the 351 00:21:59,476 --> 00:22:01,276 Speaker 1: coast in the nineteen seventy eight the first time, and 352 00:22:01,316 --> 00:22:04,316 Speaker 1: then I sailed for seven years in the mainliness of Pacific. 353 00:22:04,356 --> 00:22:10,876 Speaker 1: And then on August twenty eight, nineteen eighty four, I 354 00:22:10,916 --> 00:22:13,716 Speaker 1: had a motorcycle accident right outside of Fernwood here in 355 00:22:13,756 --> 00:22:16,716 Speaker 1: the valley, right in Big righting A downtown the valley, 356 00:22:16,756 --> 00:22:19,676 Speaker 1: Big Sir. And I lost my consciousness and I was 357 00:22:19,796 --> 00:22:23,636 Speaker 1: laying I sprawled myself on the hood of this car, 358 00:22:23,876 --> 00:22:27,356 Speaker 1: bleeding profusely out of certainly my nose and mouth. And 359 00:22:27,996 --> 00:22:31,756 Speaker 1: I wake up and I'm holding somebody's hand, and I 360 00:22:31,996 --> 00:22:35,156 Speaker 1: opened up my eyes and I see this beautiful young woman, 361 00:22:35,356 --> 00:22:39,676 Speaker 1: and I said, how did you get here? And then 362 00:22:40,116 --> 00:22:43,396 Speaker 1: she went with me in the ambulance, and I'm still 363 00:22:43,476 --> 00:22:45,876 Speaker 1: with her a four months south of here on Parlington 364 00:22:45,956 --> 00:22:48,676 Speaker 1: Ridge where she brought me up. So that was that's 365 00:22:48,716 --> 00:22:52,396 Speaker 1: the reason I'm here is having met her, it fell 366 00:22:52,476 --> 00:22:55,116 Speaker 1: in love completely and fell in love with her and 367 00:22:55,236 --> 00:22:58,196 Speaker 1: the place. And I had so many stitches on my 368 00:22:58,276 --> 00:23:01,516 Speaker 1: lips that it took it took three weeks for us 369 00:23:01,596 --> 00:23:08,076 Speaker 1: to finally be able to come gently kiss. Magnus walks 370 00:23:08,156 --> 00:23:10,636 Speaker 1: us around the grounds of the library. There's a ping 371 00:23:10,716 --> 00:23:14,636 Speaker 1: pong table, a small stage for performances, and various folk 372 00:23:14,756 --> 00:23:20,396 Speaker 1: art sculptures nestled beneath redwood trees. This is the iconic thing. 373 00:23:20,476 --> 00:23:22,756 Speaker 1: This piano has been taking a beating for years. Yeah, 374 00:23:22,876 --> 00:23:25,716 Speaker 1: it's entropy. It's a it's a piano that's slowly rotting 375 00:23:26,036 --> 00:23:28,236 Speaker 1: in front of our eyes. Here, I had three of 376 00:23:28,316 --> 00:23:32,516 Speaker 1: those mannequins surrounding a redwood stump on which I had 377 00:23:32,556 --> 00:23:35,316 Speaker 1: a cup, and in the cup I had a Rubik's cube. 378 00:23:36,116 --> 00:23:38,236 Speaker 1: So a lot of these are is you bathe these 379 00:23:38,396 --> 00:23:41,436 Speaker 1: and they're kind of just ready maids inspired by your 380 00:23:41,636 --> 00:23:45,516 Speaker 1: wild mind. Yeah. Now that orange thing there that actually 381 00:23:45,596 --> 00:23:48,116 Speaker 1: comes from the bowling alley where they shot with the 382 00:23:48,156 --> 00:23:53,596 Speaker 1: Botskid movie. Yeah, Yeah, that's from the big sort of 383 00:23:53,676 --> 00:23:57,836 Speaker 1: fashion show that we have here, like jellyfish. All right, 384 00:23:57,916 --> 00:24:00,436 Speaker 1: And now we approached the the mL White House, which 385 00:24:00,436 --> 00:24:04,996 Speaker 1: as we converted into this beautiful little library and bookstore. 386 00:24:05,516 --> 00:24:12,036 Speaker 1: I've been poking our heads in here. So we're basically 387 00:24:12,116 --> 00:24:15,676 Speaker 1: in this place and it's like a really handsome bookstore 388 00:24:15,716 --> 00:24:18,436 Speaker 1: in a cabin, but this kind of nice warm lighting. 389 00:24:19,596 --> 00:24:22,356 Speaker 1: Is there an organization, what's the what's the roads, the selection? 390 00:24:22,596 --> 00:24:24,756 Speaker 1: It's a little bit. It's you know, they're on the shelf. 391 00:24:24,876 --> 00:24:28,836 Speaker 1: We have books that are essentially by author, pretty much alphabetical, 392 00:24:29,316 --> 00:24:31,476 Speaker 1: and then we have displaced on the tables and they 393 00:24:31,756 --> 00:24:34,476 Speaker 1: they change all the time depending on how we feel. Yeah, 394 00:24:35,356 --> 00:24:38,196 Speaker 1: but the books themselves are all kind of rotating in 395 00:24:38,316 --> 00:24:42,156 Speaker 1: and out modern classics, moniting classic classics. Yeah, it's like 396 00:24:42,276 --> 00:24:46,956 Speaker 1: an education humanities on one level. And this poster here 397 00:24:47,076 --> 00:24:49,596 Speaker 1: is from the Wild Year of twenty eleven where we 398 00:24:49,716 --> 00:24:53,276 Speaker 1: had she like Peppers and John Waters and oh my way. 399 00:24:53,316 --> 00:24:56,156 Speaker 1: So this is these are people performed at the library. 400 00:24:56,716 --> 00:25:03,796 Speaker 1: Red Hot Chili, Peppers, John Waters, MGMT, Henry Rollins. Remarkable 401 00:25:03,876 --> 00:25:06,796 Speaker 1: three and a half hours Wow. After our chat with 402 00:25:06,916 --> 00:25:10,876 Speaker 1: Magnus we Linger on at the library. This tree is 403 00:25:10,876 --> 00:25:14,316 Speaker 1: probably what about a thousand years old? How is the Redwoods? 404 00:25:15,156 --> 00:25:17,836 Speaker 1: John finds a spot of cell reception and calls his 405 00:25:17,956 --> 00:25:23,836 Speaker 1: kids before nightfalls on the East Coast. Hi, guys, where 406 00:25:23,876 --> 00:25:29,716 Speaker 1: am I? I'm in California? Hi Indi boo? How are you? 407 00:25:30,196 --> 00:25:34,236 Speaker 1: Are you tired? You're busy right now? Are you too 408 00:25:34,316 --> 00:25:39,156 Speaker 1: busy to say hi? Yeah? Meanwhile, I browsed the bookshop 409 00:25:39,196 --> 00:25:41,316 Speaker 1: and find a copy of Big sur and The Oranges 410 00:25:41,356 --> 00:25:44,876 Speaker 1: of Hieronymous Bosh Henry Miller's memoirs from when he lived here. 411 00:25:44,916 --> 00:25:47,036 Speaker 1: I sent you a video. We saw an elephant seal. 412 00:25:47,196 --> 00:25:49,796 Speaker 1: It's really big and it makes a noise like it's burping. 413 00:25:50,076 --> 00:25:52,516 Speaker 1: We whiled away the day. How tall do you think 414 00:25:52,556 --> 00:25:55,236 Speaker 1: it is? It's like a It looks like, Oh, here's 415 00:25:55,276 --> 00:25:57,716 Speaker 1: how I could do it. It looks like a fifteen 416 00:25:58,036 --> 00:26:02,196 Speaker 1: story building. Right after a while, we got ourselves together, 417 00:26:02,436 --> 00:26:06,956 Speaker 1: Hi guys, and pushed off to another iconic big surf spot. 418 00:26:10,356 --> 00:26:13,276 Speaker 1: So we're in Nepente. It's a little bit foggy out, 419 00:26:13,796 --> 00:26:15,796 Speaker 1: but we will there will be a shift when this 420 00:26:15,956 --> 00:26:19,676 Speaker 1: goes down in about a half hour's time. Designed by 421 00:26:19,716 --> 00:26:22,596 Speaker 1: a student of Frankloyd Wright, a Pente Restaurant was built 422 00:26:22,596 --> 00:26:25,916 Speaker 1: around the cliffside cabin in nineteen forty nine. In any 423 00:26:25,956 --> 00:26:29,596 Speaker 1: other setting, it's modern redwood structure and expansive terrace would 424 00:26:29,636 --> 00:26:32,836 Speaker 1: catch the eye. But here it's beauty is dwarfed by 425 00:26:32,916 --> 00:26:35,636 Speaker 1: the views in the wake and there is something stinking 426 00:26:35,756 --> 00:26:38,796 Speaker 1: set up over there, whether it's a whale or we'll seal. 427 00:26:39,516 --> 00:26:42,436 Speaker 1: Nepente's perch on a cliff allows a miles long view 428 00:26:42,476 --> 00:26:46,076 Speaker 1: of the horizon out there. See that bump, yeah, believe. 429 00:26:46,076 --> 00:26:49,396 Speaker 1: In eighteen eighty five, John and I stare males the 430 00:26:49,436 --> 00:26:55,076 Speaker 1: gape and Napente's greatest attraction the sunset. We've got sunsets 431 00:26:55,116 --> 00:26:58,916 Speaker 1: on lakes in the Midwest, which are nice, but they're 432 00:26:58,956 --> 00:27:03,476 Speaker 1: like a specific thing. This is just huge. The thing 433 00:27:03,516 --> 00:27:05,596 Speaker 1: about it for me that strikes me as like how 434 00:27:05,716 --> 00:27:07,916 Speaker 1: far it goes from left to right? Do you know 435 00:27:07,956 --> 00:27:09,596 Speaker 1: what I mean? Because the body of water is so 436 00:27:09,796 --> 00:27:12,796 Speaker 1: much larger that that pink band it's along the water 437 00:27:13,076 --> 00:27:14,876 Speaker 1: for a lake. It's like you know that big in 438 00:27:14,956 --> 00:27:17,716 Speaker 1: your in your view, like, but this is like left 439 00:27:17,756 --> 00:27:20,316 Speaker 1: to skit of two inches. It's like absolutely the entire screen, 440 00:27:20,476 --> 00:27:26,836 Speaker 1: the entire screen the Penthe pulls off the rare trick 441 00:27:26,876 --> 00:27:29,596 Speaker 1: of being a tourist destination as well as a spot 442 00:27:29,636 --> 00:27:34,396 Speaker 1: where locals meet and mingle. What is it, Jade, Jade? Yeah? Nice? 443 00:27:34,556 --> 00:27:36,916 Speaker 1: People looked at me now they go, God, Rudy, you 444 00:27:37,076 --> 00:27:41,036 Speaker 1: are local. Sometimes they even talked to each other, Alexander, 445 00:27:41,076 --> 00:27:42,636 Speaker 1: do you live in Big thir two? No, I don't. 446 00:27:42,676 --> 00:27:45,636 Speaker 1: I live in Santa Barbara. Actually, Santa Barbara is beautiful. 447 00:27:45,916 --> 00:27:48,076 Speaker 1: Yesterday I put out a prayer because I knew I 448 00:27:48,116 --> 00:27:51,796 Speaker 1: was gonna go jan thing today. Yeah, what about you? Nice? Yeah? 449 00:27:52,156 --> 00:27:55,596 Speaker 1: New York seems really inspiring. Three different people over the 450 00:27:55,716 --> 00:27:58,276 Speaker 1: day brought me jee like. One guy gave me one, 451 00:27:58,396 --> 00:28:00,356 Speaker 1: one guy gave me two, and then the other guy 452 00:28:00,436 --> 00:28:03,836 Speaker 1: gave me like. I don't think I would survive there intense. 453 00:28:07,236 --> 00:28:09,396 Speaker 1: As I sat into penthe I thought out of a 454 00:28:09,436 --> 00:28:13,596 Speaker 1: passage I'd read in Miller's memoirs earlier that day. Surely 455 00:28:13,716 --> 00:28:16,756 Speaker 1: everyone realizes, at some point along the way that he's 456 00:28:16,796 --> 00:28:19,356 Speaker 1: capable of living a far better life than the one 457 00:28:19,436 --> 00:28:23,516 Speaker 1: he has chosen. Those words stirred up an old feeling 458 00:28:23,756 --> 00:28:27,436 Speaker 1: deep inside of me. Before COVID, I had a raging 459 00:28:27,556 --> 00:28:30,836 Speaker 1: case of wanderlust. I spent years thinking there was a 460 00:28:30,916 --> 00:28:33,396 Speaker 1: better life somewhere else, if only I could find it. 461 00:28:34,316 --> 00:28:36,916 Speaker 1: But the fourth stillness of the early pandemic seemed to 462 00:28:36,956 --> 00:28:40,116 Speaker 1: inoculate me from the need to rome. I began to 463 00:28:40,236 --> 00:28:43,516 Speaker 1: enjoy the quieter pleasures of domestic life, the burble of 464 00:28:43,596 --> 00:28:46,396 Speaker 1: a stovetop espresso maker, reading on a couch with my 465 00:28:46,476 --> 00:28:48,716 Speaker 1: partner's legs in my lap, a day on a park 466 00:28:48,796 --> 00:28:52,436 Speaker 1: bench instead of a day or airplane. But here in 467 00:28:52,516 --> 00:28:54,996 Speaker 1: the penthe I was getting a sort of contact high 468 00:28:55,116 --> 00:28:57,436 Speaker 1: from past memories of when I was more footloose and 469 00:28:57,556 --> 00:28:59,956 Speaker 1: fun seeking. I mean, if you want to get drunk 470 00:29:00,036 --> 00:29:02,036 Speaker 1: or smoked ope and get high, you come to big Shirt. 471 00:29:02,116 --> 00:29:03,796 Speaker 1: And I have to admit, that's been a big shirt 472 00:29:03,836 --> 00:29:06,396 Speaker 1: for the weekend. Okay, that's good with me. I did 473 00:29:06,476 --> 00:29:12,196 Speaker 1: feel pretty good. Something's never changed. John was enjoying himself too. 474 00:29:12,956 --> 00:29:14,996 Speaker 1: But this is great. I mean, look at that fucking sunset. 475 00:29:15,076 --> 00:29:18,356 Speaker 1: Man his dad brain on pause, if only for a 476 00:29:18,396 --> 00:29:20,796 Speaker 1: brief moment. Living on the East Coast, he's seeing the 477 00:29:20,836 --> 00:29:22,956 Speaker 1: world closed for the day on the West coast once 478 00:29:22,956 --> 00:29:25,756 Speaker 1: in a while, like I think, kind of it's grounding 479 00:29:50,596 --> 00:29:56,716 Speaker 1: another beautiful day. Yeah, those red woods. If we get 480 00:29:56,756 --> 00:29:59,036 Speaker 1: out for a walk on the glade side, A walk, 481 00:29:59,516 --> 00:30:02,276 Speaker 1: a hike on the glade side. Those trees are just 482 00:30:02,516 --> 00:30:05,356 Speaker 1: I don't know what they are, but they're they're such 483 00:30:05,396 --> 00:30:08,836 Speaker 1: a presence. After a good night's sleep, our bodies felt refreshed, 484 00:30:09,196 --> 00:30:12,636 Speaker 1: and it was time to tend to our spirits. Now. 485 00:30:12,676 --> 00:30:15,996 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily believe in the New Age spirituality that's 486 00:30:16,036 --> 00:30:19,356 Speaker 1: as plentiful here as sunshine and poppy flowers. But I 487 00:30:19,396 --> 00:30:22,036 Speaker 1: would be remiss if I came through Big Sir without 488 00:30:22,116 --> 00:30:25,116 Speaker 1: checking in on the neu veaux hippie scene you see 489 00:30:25,356 --> 00:30:28,236 Speaker 1: at Big Presence Here is the Esslin Institute, a kind 490 00:30:28,276 --> 00:30:31,276 Speaker 1: of bougie New Age resort founded in the sixties that 491 00:30:31,436 --> 00:30:34,796 Speaker 1: involves a lot of bodywork and hot springs. But John 492 00:30:34,836 --> 00:30:38,236 Speaker 1: and I weren't going there. Nope. I like John, but 493 00:30:38,396 --> 00:30:40,516 Speaker 1: not enough to spend nine hundred dollars to hang out 494 00:30:40,516 --> 00:30:44,236 Speaker 1: with him in a towel eating macrobotic food. Instead, we 495 00:30:44,356 --> 00:30:53,236 Speaker 1: were heading for some bespoke spiritual maintenance. So we're going 496 00:30:53,356 --> 00:30:56,676 Speaker 1: up this hill brandcho Rico. If forgot sound healing session. 497 00:30:59,396 --> 00:31:01,836 Speaker 1: It's a little bit mysterious, the healing part. If even 498 00:31:01,876 --> 00:31:03,476 Speaker 1: if this had been called a sound bath, I would 499 00:31:03,476 --> 00:31:05,276 Speaker 1: have done it, but it happens to be called a 500 00:31:05,316 --> 00:31:07,916 Speaker 1: sound healing session, right, and I'm sure I could figure 501 00:31:07,956 --> 00:31:11,156 Speaker 1: something that needs to be healed. Paused on that and 502 00:31:11,236 --> 00:31:13,916 Speaker 1: just like look to the right, like maybe don't drive 503 00:31:14,836 --> 00:31:19,356 Speaker 1: a Ship's just beautiful, beautiful hills and their mountains right 504 00:31:19,396 --> 00:31:22,836 Speaker 1: are these mountains mountain the mountains, they're Satia mountains. Hills 505 00:31:22,996 --> 00:31:25,996 Speaker 1: is not doesn't do it? And this is again one 506 00:31:25,996 --> 00:31:28,556 Speaker 1: of those roads I would appreciate you in a little slower. 507 00:31:29,036 --> 00:31:31,196 Speaker 1: I'm afraid of heights and the fact there's no guardrail 508 00:31:31,276 --> 00:31:33,836 Speaker 1: to our right. It makes me feel a little bit nauseous. 509 00:31:34,636 --> 00:31:36,436 Speaker 1: What do you need to heal today? We'll just the 510 00:31:36,636 --> 00:31:39,596 Speaker 1: nausea from the drive up your driveway, I know, and 511 00:31:39,676 --> 00:31:41,676 Speaker 1: you're gonna lose all the things you gain when the 512 00:31:41,796 --> 00:31:47,716 Speaker 1: drive down away. I think left, but but that doesn't 513 00:31:47,756 --> 00:31:49,796 Speaker 1: look safe. Doesn't proceed about a mile and that the 514 00:31:49,916 --> 00:31:52,756 Speaker 1: three way forks stayed in the far right. This feels 515 00:31:52,756 --> 00:31:55,276 Speaker 1: like it's not the three way fork. That doesn't even 516 00:31:55,316 --> 00:31:56,996 Speaker 1: look like it's drive. We want to drive on it, 517 00:31:57,116 --> 00:32:04,436 Speaker 1: like I think this is yeah, followed this right? I 518 00:32:04,516 --> 00:32:06,756 Speaker 1: mean this looks like a road, right, That's what I think. 519 00:32:07,316 --> 00:32:09,476 Speaker 1: All right, I guess we got to just choose pick one, right, 520 00:32:09,556 --> 00:32:16,596 Speaker 1: I mean hashtag not going there half while cattle grade, 521 00:32:16,876 --> 00:32:20,516 Speaker 1: that's the cattle gray big Sir, fiddle camp. That's the 522 00:32:20,596 --> 00:32:22,356 Speaker 1: worst that could happen. We end up like in a 523 00:32:22,436 --> 00:32:29,076 Speaker 1: field of kids practicing fiddles. Well, I need to go here, 524 00:32:29,116 --> 00:32:30,596 Speaker 1: but I need to do a k term without falling 525 00:32:30,636 --> 00:32:32,196 Speaker 1: off that cliff. Yeah, I don't do that. You want 526 00:32:32,196 --> 00:32:36,036 Speaker 1: me to get out of the car first. That was 527 00:32:36,076 --> 00:32:38,916 Speaker 1: a journey. Sorry, we're late. Really, this is such a 528 00:32:39,036 --> 00:32:42,556 Speaker 1: beautiful little place in the way you're in the Shangari 529 00:32:42,636 --> 00:32:46,676 Speaker 1: Lana devil Mine is the owner of Sacred Sound and Wonder, 530 00:32:46,996 --> 00:32:50,236 Speaker 1: where she does sound healing sessions and sells crystal singing bowls. 531 00:32:50,796 --> 00:32:53,316 Speaker 1: Her home. She calls it the Starbarn is on a 532 00:32:53,436 --> 00:32:56,916 Speaker 1: huge ranch, and if John weren't feeling woozy from the drive, 533 00:32:57,316 --> 00:32:59,116 Speaker 1: he could look out and see a stunning view of 534 00:32:59,156 --> 00:33:02,156 Speaker 1: the ocean raging one hundred feet below us. I should say, 535 00:33:02,516 --> 00:33:05,476 Speaker 1: we're now peeking out of the ocean, which is just 536 00:33:05,556 --> 00:33:09,716 Speaker 1: on the other side here of sunrise sunset. It's kind 537 00:33:09,756 --> 00:33:14,196 Speaker 1: of the place to be foot So where are we? 538 00:33:15,156 --> 00:33:20,796 Speaker 1: What is ramcho Rico, which is my dear friend's family ranch. 539 00:33:20,956 --> 00:33:23,476 Speaker 1: How long have you been up in Rancho Rico? A 540 00:33:23,596 --> 00:33:27,356 Speaker 1: little over nine years now. Yeah, And I started off 541 00:33:27,516 --> 00:33:30,836 Speaker 1: living in a small cabin with a murphy bed, and 542 00:33:30,916 --> 00:33:35,556 Speaker 1: then I moved to an old renovated wine barrel. Did 543 00:33:35,596 --> 00:33:40,276 Speaker 1: you say renovated wine barrel? That's like van life, but 544 00:33:41,116 --> 00:33:44,876 Speaker 1: Diagnet doesn't move with the ocean views. That's square footage 545 00:33:44,916 --> 00:33:48,716 Speaker 1: than a New York apartment. Deva has long brown hair, 546 00:33:48,996 --> 00:33:51,956 Speaker 1: blue eyes, skinny jeans that flare at the bottom, and 547 00:33:52,076 --> 00:33:54,276 Speaker 1: the easy manner of someone who has nama stayed her 548 00:33:54,276 --> 00:33:57,036 Speaker 1: way around a yoga mat once or twice. Every culture 549 00:33:57,156 --> 00:34:00,916 Speaker 1: has some form of sound that they use in their healing. 550 00:34:01,716 --> 00:34:06,276 Speaker 1: Just shamanstrum rattles are another one that are really odd. 551 00:34:06,396 --> 00:34:09,396 Speaker 1: She gives us a sonic tour of her audio healing tool. Kid. 552 00:34:10,996 --> 00:34:17,156 Speaker 1: This one is called a sharkunak from Russia. And this 553 00:34:17,356 --> 00:34:25,356 Speaker 1: one's from the most recent ones that I got. Are 554 00:34:25,396 --> 00:34:33,716 Speaker 1: the Egyptian systems that won't feel so satisfying. I don't 555 00:34:33,716 --> 00:34:36,036 Speaker 1: know the same. That's like my favorite so far. There's 556 00:34:36,076 --> 00:34:39,596 Speaker 1: something about the tone of it. And today we're going 557 00:34:39,676 --> 00:34:44,316 Speaker 1: to You're going to deploy bowls, so if you guys 558 00:34:44,356 --> 00:34:48,836 Speaker 1: are ready, We're ready. So here's my question before we 559 00:34:49,556 --> 00:34:52,276 Speaker 1: begin this journey. Do are we supposed to think about 560 00:34:52,316 --> 00:34:54,676 Speaker 1: what we need here? Like? What? How are we supposed to? Yeah? 561 00:34:54,756 --> 00:34:58,996 Speaker 1: It helps because intention is everything. Right, just to name 562 00:34:59,076 --> 00:35:04,116 Speaker 1: what is an area that you're seeking harmony in your life? 563 00:35:04,196 --> 00:35:06,676 Speaker 1: Over the course of COVID, I feel like I've become 564 00:35:06,796 --> 00:35:10,436 Speaker 1: normal and it's been pleasant and some ways, and I'm 565 00:35:10,476 --> 00:35:14,916 Speaker 1: not completely chafing against it, but coming out to big Sir, 566 00:35:15,116 --> 00:35:18,996 Speaker 1: I'm remembering the kind of more adventurous, the wonderlust, the 567 00:35:19,116 --> 00:35:24,236 Speaker 1: kind of more roaming free character I was previous. And 568 00:35:25,196 --> 00:35:28,236 Speaker 1: I just want to make sure I calibrate properly so 569 00:35:28,316 --> 00:35:32,276 Speaker 1: I don't find myself too much one or too much 570 00:35:32,316 --> 00:35:35,356 Speaker 1: the other. All right, If I give you one that's 571 00:35:35,396 --> 00:35:39,236 Speaker 1: like an opposite flavor, is it going to muddy the 572 00:35:39,636 --> 00:35:41,756 Speaker 1: sound healing? You know what I mean? Like? No, they're 573 00:35:41,836 --> 00:35:45,356 Speaker 1: kind of like adaptogens that okay, they'll work towards your 574 00:35:45,636 --> 00:35:52,236 Speaker 1: individual constitution. I think probably my top line anxiety right 575 00:35:52,276 --> 00:35:57,876 Speaker 1: now is just like pure mortality, fear of death. I 576 00:35:58,236 --> 00:36:00,676 Speaker 1: was like never afraid of death until after I had kids, 577 00:36:01,196 --> 00:36:03,916 Speaker 1: So that's just like I think about death way more 578 00:36:03,956 --> 00:36:06,396 Speaker 1: than I ever have in my life. Is that why 579 00:36:06,436 --> 00:36:12,276 Speaker 1: you had a salad for lunch? Yeah? Right, Yeah, that's 580 00:36:12,356 --> 00:36:16,076 Speaker 1: a really big one for people right now. Is facing 581 00:36:16,156 --> 00:36:18,996 Speaker 1: our mortality. Well, if you could just solve all those things, 582 00:36:19,036 --> 00:36:22,236 Speaker 1: we could get thanks. Let's you know, we'll dive in 583 00:36:22,276 --> 00:36:27,156 Speaker 1: and see where it takes you. Well, go ahead, and 584 00:36:27,276 --> 00:36:32,076 Speaker 1: I'm going to invite you to take three nice long, deep, 585 00:36:32,196 --> 00:36:39,476 Speaker 1: slow belly breasts inhaling deep into your belly and as 586 00:36:39,556 --> 00:36:44,916 Speaker 1: you exhale, letting out a side or a sound, releasing 587 00:36:44,996 --> 00:36:49,036 Speaker 1: your jaw. Maybe rock your head just a little side 588 00:36:49,156 --> 00:37:06,116 Speaker 1: to side, and again, nice deep, full belly breaths, bringing 589 00:37:06,276 --> 00:37:13,396 Speaker 1: through great clarity balance being a little too hot, inner 590 00:37:13,556 --> 00:37:18,196 Speaker 1: peace and tranquility, Bay by day, hour by hour, mom, 591 00:37:18,316 --> 00:37:19,556 Speaker 1: by mom, and by mom, and by mom and my 592 00:37:19,636 --> 00:37:23,356 Speaker 1: mom and my mom, and in beauty we begin again 593 00:37:23,676 --> 00:37:26,276 Speaker 1: and it want to become right, Yeah, those beautiful place 594 00:37:26,316 --> 00:37:29,236 Speaker 1: I can think, so may be and so it is 595 00:37:29,956 --> 00:37:33,996 Speaker 1: God Mother, god Father, gond of Iceberg already where to 596 00:37:34,116 --> 00:37:38,196 Speaker 1: just feel the basically, I love all these purples and people. 597 00:37:38,236 --> 00:37:48,996 Speaker 1: Whereas it's like it's quiter sameles s tranquil. You want 598 00:37:49,036 --> 00:37:51,396 Speaker 1: to get drunk or Spain. How you come to big 599 00:37:51,436 --> 00:37:57,716 Speaker 1: sixty fast time? What is it? Ja? Yeah? Redwood trees, 600 00:37:57,796 --> 00:38:01,116 Speaker 1: a pure mind. I see this beautiful young woman in 601 00:38:01,236 --> 00:38:06,276 Speaker 1: the endless joy he be and I said, how did 602 00:38:06,356 --> 00:38:20,316 Speaker 1: you get here? Here? Is this one be et faboush free? 603 00:38:20,836 --> 00:38:27,116 Speaker 1: This one girl? Eighteen eighty five? I am can you 604 00:38:27,156 --> 00:38:29,156 Speaker 1: tell me that word again? Like why they come back 605 00:38:29,196 --> 00:38:31,796 Speaker 1: to the same place? And Philip Patrick Patrick both didn't 606 00:38:31,836 --> 00:38:40,556 Speaker 1: you find bashi below or something? Every year? And knows 607 00:38:40,556 --> 00:38:44,716 Speaker 1: where to go? So we had plans. I'm gonna go 608 00:38:44,796 --> 00:38:48,956 Speaker 1: put my feet in the water. Well that rabbit tisted 609 00:38:49,236 --> 00:39:12,316 Speaker 1: to take mountain night studio beaches avoid for reces, must 610 00:39:12,676 --> 00:39:21,516 Speaker 1: go back to a t the giant prize, screeching sirens 611 00:39:21,596 --> 00:39:31,116 Speaker 1: and back home in New York seems really inspired. That's 612 00:39:31,156 --> 00:39:32,956 Speaker 1: not an uncommon thing in New York to go drawn 613 00:39:33,156 --> 00:39:34,956 Speaker 1: to it. Now you're a New Yorker, I mean, there's 614 00:39:34,996 --> 00:39:37,076 Speaker 1: no doubt about it as a city that fits you. Well. 615 00:39:38,676 --> 00:39:43,116 Speaker 1: Are you too busy to say? Hi? Black coffee for Chelsea? Okay? 616 00:39:43,356 --> 00:39:46,196 Speaker 1: The wind is he at fifty fifty? Do you go 617 00:39:46,356 --> 00:39:49,716 Speaker 1: to those natural places to recharge and come back? What 618 00:39:49,796 --> 00:39:51,996 Speaker 1: are we going in our house that's got a big 619 00:39:52,036 --> 00:39:54,316 Speaker 1: share for the weekend. Okay, that's good for me. For me, 620 00:39:58,996 --> 00:40:02,996 Speaker 1: while in Big Sir, I communed with nature, vibrated away 621 00:40:03,076 --> 00:40:06,476 Speaker 1: some city grime, and marveled once again at this area's 622 00:40:06,556 --> 00:40:11,036 Speaker 1: utopic vistas. I I also realized that traveling feels different 623 00:40:11,076 --> 00:40:14,556 Speaker 1: from me now. The pandemic forced me to stay in 624 00:40:14,636 --> 00:40:17,236 Speaker 1: one place, and during that time I began to lay 625 00:40:17,276 --> 00:40:21,476 Speaker 1: down some roots. I still find roaming around exhilarating and 626 00:40:21,596 --> 00:40:24,636 Speaker 1: mind expanding, but I no longer see it as a 627 00:40:25,076 --> 00:40:29,396 Speaker 1: trial subscription to living in a new place. So instead 628 00:40:29,396 --> 00:40:31,276 Speaker 1: of going back to New York, now that my trip 629 00:40:31,396 --> 00:40:51,356 Speaker 1: is over, I'm returning home. So that's rapid tested to beaches. 630 00:40:51,996 --> 00:41:16,396 Speaker 1: Flood rush is oh myself, it's not. Oh but first 631 00:41:17,836 --> 00:41:19,556 Speaker 1: So John, I don't know if you can understand. You 632 00:41:19,636 --> 00:41:23,636 Speaker 1: had one more stop to make. How excited for two 633 00:41:23,716 --> 00:41:27,996 Speaker 1: miles to be entering Pascadero. Remember I told you about 634 00:41:28,036 --> 00:41:33,236 Speaker 1: this little roadhouse pretty much because du Art's tavern. This 635 00:41:33,356 --> 00:41:36,196 Speaker 1: place's got a good look. Oh it's got that like 636 00:41:36,316 --> 00:41:39,076 Speaker 1: sort of old L shaped spot tavern sign on the 637 00:41:39,156 --> 00:41:41,676 Speaker 1: first car. Look at these people already line it up. 638 00:41:41,676 --> 00:41:44,076 Speaker 1: It doesn't know until noon. Do you think these people 639 00:41:44,076 --> 00:41:45,636 Speaker 1: are here for the soup. They're here for the soup. 640 00:41:45,676 --> 00:41:47,196 Speaker 1: You look at those people, Look at old They are 641 00:41:48,196 --> 00:41:50,676 Speaker 1: gonna tell you guys about this soup. So can I 642 00:41:50,756 --> 00:41:53,236 Speaker 1: get the soup? And do you still don you do 643 00:41:53,356 --> 00:41:56,676 Speaker 1: half and a half? Yeah? Yeah, thank you. I'm gonna 644 00:41:56,716 --> 00:41:59,196 Speaker 1: do the exact same thing. That's the right move. Yeah. Yeah. 645 00:42:03,316 --> 00:42:05,996 Speaker 1: See how it's in the middle it's like light green, 646 00:42:06,156 --> 00:42:07,716 Speaker 1: and then in the middle it looks like a little 647 00:42:07,756 --> 00:42:10,156 Speaker 1: bit of Florida lee. All right, all right, that's the 648 00:42:10,276 --> 00:42:15,076 Speaker 1: heat art choke on the outside, Thank you very much. 649 00:42:16,196 --> 00:42:19,156 Speaker 1: You gotta get a little bit of both in this boon. God, 650 00:42:19,196 --> 00:42:21,556 Speaker 1: this has been a long time coming. Man, you have 651 00:42:21,676 --> 00:42:27,916 Speaker 1: no idea. All right, it's a good, sue, Oh fuck 652 00:42:27,956 --> 00:42:41,356 Speaker 1: you good? That's good sounds. The lead producer on this 653 00:42:41,556 --> 00:42:44,996 Speaker 1: episode of Not Lost was the brilliant Bart Warshaw, who 654 00:42:45,076 --> 00:42:48,236 Speaker 1: also sound designed to mix the episode like what I say, 655 00:42:48,956 --> 00:42:51,756 Speaker 1: it's good, sue, Like that wasn't me? A good is 656 00:42:51,796 --> 00:42:57,116 Speaker 1: not a lesser adjective than great, it is said. The 657 00:42:57,196 --> 00:43:00,516 Speaker 1: show was also produced and written by me Brendan Francis Newnham. 658 00:43:01,156 --> 00:43:05,716 Speaker 1: Our associate producer was the wonderful Amy Gaines. Editorial guidance 659 00:43:05,796 --> 00:43:08,996 Speaker 1: was provided by Julia Barton. Production assistance on this episode 660 00:43:09,116 --> 00:43:12,396 Speaker 1: also came from the unflappable Jacob Smith. Literally, but this 661 00:43:12,596 --> 00:43:15,396 Speaker 1: is the big Thanks to my friend and this episode's 662 00:43:15,436 --> 00:43:18,436 Speaker 1: travel partner, John Delore, I can say this. I could 663 00:43:18,436 --> 00:43:23,676 Speaker 1: say it's great soon you know argue that is good too. 664 00:43:24,076 --> 00:43:26,316 Speaker 1: If you'd like to hear one of our earlier collaborations, 665 00:43:26,396 --> 00:43:29,356 Speaker 1: head to the Parish of You podcast. If you check 666 00:43:29,396 --> 00:43:31,396 Speaker 1: out season one, you will get a sense of his 667 00:43:31,836 --> 00:43:34,956 Speaker 1: sound design brilliance. Or you could say he's son of 668 00:43:35,036 --> 00:43:38,436 Speaker 1: a bitch. You were so right. I underestimated you. His 669 00:43:38,596 --> 00:43:42,676 Speaker 1: studo Slafe changing but not lost. As a co production 670 00:43:42,716 --> 00:43:46,956 Speaker 1: of Pushkin Industries, Topic Studios and iHeartMedia, was developed at 671 00:43:46,996 --> 00:43:51,556 Speaker 1: Topic Studios. The show's executive producers are me Christy Gressman, 672 00:43:51,716 --> 00:43:55,636 Speaker 1: Maria Zuckerman, Lisa Lyne Gang and Lata mullad. Our theme 673 00:43:55,676 --> 00:43:59,196 Speaker 1: song was created by Alexis Georgiopolis aka ARP. He has 674 00:43:59,196 --> 00:44:02,156 Speaker 1: a new album coming out this July on Mexican Summer. 675 00:44:02,476 --> 00:44:05,076 Speaker 1: It's called New Pleasures. There's a single out now, be 676 00:44:05,156 --> 00:44:07,556 Speaker 1: sure to check it out. I've never had anything like it. 677 00:44:07,676 --> 00:44:11,036 Speaker 1: It's become CREAMA artichoke is like a mushroomy hug, but 678 00:44:11,156 --> 00:44:15,356 Speaker 1: then it's gotten this, like this little vinegary like little 679 00:44:15,396 --> 00:44:19,436 Speaker 1: sass mushroom. And a special thanks to everyone in Big 680 00:44:19,556 --> 00:44:22,316 Speaker 1: sur who made us feel at home while we were 681 00:44:22,316 --> 00:44:26,356 Speaker 1: away from home. Jake Badour, Arena Favilla and the Coastal 682 00:44:26,436 --> 00:44:30,036 Speaker 1: Lab at the UC Santa Cruz Deva Mune, my friend 683 00:44:30,156 --> 00:44:33,276 Speaker 1: Magnus torn at the Henry Miller Library, and of course 684 00:44:33,756 --> 00:44:39,676 Speaker 1: do Art's Tavern for making great soup. Thank you. It's 685 00:44:39,676 --> 00:44:44,036 Speaker 1: a thing, people, please check it out. Plus a special 686 00:44:44,116 --> 00:44:47,036 Speaker 1: thanks goes out to eighteen eighty five, who at this 687 00:44:47,156 --> 00:44:50,796 Speaker 1: point has returned to See to attend her epic dinner 688 00:44:50,876 --> 00:44:54,556 Speaker 1: party for one. Good luck out there. If you want 689 00:44:54,556 --> 00:44:56,756 Speaker 1: to see some pictures or learn something about our guests, 690 00:44:56,796 --> 00:45:00,356 Speaker 1: you can head to not Lawshow dot com. And if 691 00:45:00,396 --> 00:45:03,156 Speaker 1: you're still listening to this, you've either fallen asleep or 692 00:45:03,396 --> 00:45:05,996 Speaker 1: you really like it. And if it's the latter, do 693 00:45:06,156 --> 00:45:09,356 Speaker 1: us a favor. Head to Apple Podcast and Radium View. 694 00:45:10,076 --> 00:45:12,276 Speaker 1: It does seem like a silly thing, but it's actually 695 00:45:12,316 --> 00:45:15,036 Speaker 1: an important thing. It helps us stay on the charts, 696 00:45:15,476 --> 00:45:17,476 Speaker 1: and also I get to peak at them every once 697 00:45:17,516 --> 00:45:19,196 Speaker 1: in a while and see what you guys think so, 698 00:45:19,276 --> 00:45:22,196 Speaker 1: I'd really appreciate it. And after that, if you still 699 00:45:22,236 --> 00:45:25,596 Speaker 1: want more information, you can learn more about Topic Studios 700 00:45:25,636 --> 00:45:28,796 Speaker 1: at topic studios dot com and to find more Pushkin 701 00:45:28,956 --> 00:45:31,796 Speaker 1: podcast And there's a lot of great podcasts happening over here. 702 00:45:32,276 --> 00:45:35,436 Speaker 1: Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you 703 00:45:35,516 --> 00:45:39,436 Speaker 1: listen to podcasts. I'm Brendan Francis, Newnham. Until next time, 704 00:45:40,356 --> 00:45:59,396 Speaker 1: bon voyage. I could have a good life from Bascadero. 705 00:45:59,996 --> 00:46:01,556 Speaker 1: You could have a great life Pascadero