1 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: It is Thursday, March sixteenth. This is Jaguars Happy Hours 2 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:16,479 Speaker 1: and now filling in for mister Warren broadcast specialist. But 3 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: that's unexpectacle bespoke, Samilya and several other reasons. His initials 4 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: are BS Brian Sexton. Baby that fits, Joe. Um, I 5 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: appreciate that about you. By the way, that you never missed. 6 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: The obvious was that commercial captain. Obvious is that if 7 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: you're commercial, everybody. Welcome to Jaguars Happy Hour. Brian Sexton 8 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: along with Jeff Logovin on ten ten a m Jaguars 9 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: social media channel's YouTube. This is um. This is what 10 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: you do on Thursdays in the off season. You spend 11 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: an hour talking football. How are you good? Good? Uh? 12 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: And boy what a week? Yeah? I mean if there 13 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: was a time to have an hour to talk football, 14 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: this would be the week. Just with free agency and 15 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: the tampering period and what now they're free to sign 16 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: them right now? Right? Yes they are? And why do 17 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: you think with JP said, can you do a week 18 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,279 Speaker 1: for me? I said, I'll take this week. Oh yeah, 19 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 1: it's easy. Although you know, Jeff, for the first time 20 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: in gosh a decade, there's not a lot to talk 21 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: about with the Jaguars. I mean, this has become a day, 22 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: but dag Wars fans have gotten used to. I was 23 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: trying to actually walking in talking to James at the 24 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: front desk a little bit and he's like, boy, he goes, 25 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: it's really quiet around here, isn't it. I was like, yeah, 26 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: And we were trying to think of the last time 27 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: that it's been this quiet at the start of free 28 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: agency for this franchise, right, And Brian, you're like ray 29 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: Man when it comes to years, and then the one 30 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 1: year that kind of maybe pops out a little bit 31 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: of my mind is twenty eighteen or twenty nineteen. Maybe, Yeah, 32 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen they didn't yeah, because they were kind 33 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: of set, and they were set. They had drafted Leonard Frenat. 34 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: You know, they added a few guys here and there, 35 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: but nothing, nothing, nothing frontline top of the list free agency, right, Well, 36 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: because kind of like like last year they spent one 37 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five million bucks and the year before, 38 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: remember they spend all that money on Kleis and they 39 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: spend all the money on a j boy and they 40 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: brought them all in. So it's kind of the same 41 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: thing eighteen stands out as a year that they were 42 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: kind of quiet. But I don't know this and this 43 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: is where it is now, right, I mean they have 44 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: no Cabro, none they right now? What do they have now? Five? 45 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: I think I've seen like six and a half five 46 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: or six, and then they need to get to somewhere 47 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: around seven as well. I mean just as far as 48 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: just for a draft class D class seven eight seven eight. 49 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: And then you want a cushion, right, well, you want 50 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: to have a little bit of cushion for injury, and 51 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: then you want to be able to do something practice 52 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 1: in free agency. And I'm not talking about when I 53 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: say something, I'm not talking about frontline guys getting fifteen 54 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: million a year, right We're talking about okay, and not 55 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: even bargain basement necessarily, but guys that are veteran players 56 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,679 Speaker 1: that are willing to come here because they want to 57 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: have a chance of a Super Bowl, a chance to 58 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: win Okay, with an established coach, an established quarterback. I 59 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: don't want to say that this can become Baltimore South, 60 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: but kind of along those lines, because Baltimore was so 61 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: good at that for so many years of bringing in 62 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: guys towards the end of their career on very marginal deals, 63 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: fair deals to be able to get them come in 64 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: and contribute, I have to think, And you're the perfect 65 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: person because you started with free agency as it as 66 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: it was making its way up. You're one of the 67 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 1: first big free agents here, jacksonvilligist In overall, a guy 68 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: like Trevor Lawrence is going to track people, a guy 69 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: like all day long, a guy like Doug Peterson with 70 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: the offense that they've got set up. What offensive player 71 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: wouldn't want to play here? Well into reputation, right, Okay, 72 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:41,119 Speaker 1: Doug's way of culture, in the building, the new facility 73 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: that's under construction. I mean, all these things matter, just 74 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: like it does in recruiting with the collegiate level, because 75 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: that's where you're essentially taken down to right now, because 76 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: you're not competing with money. Okay you're not. You're not 77 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: you're not in that category right now. No, Okay, you're 78 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: not competing with money. So you're trying to compete for 79 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: those guys that are lower level players. Well, there's more 80 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: competition I think for those type of players because the 81 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: money is fair, right, more teams can buy for their services. 82 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 1: So now, what's going to separate you apart from the rest? Okay, 83 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: one is you got a quarterback, you're winning, You got 84 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: a good coach, you got a good culture. Oh and 85 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: by the way, we have a hell of a facility 86 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 1: that's under construction that's going to be opened this year 87 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: in sunny Florida, tax free, stay with an owner who 88 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: is willing and committed to do things, and the big things. Right, 89 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: you find a nice airplane. You know. It's funny because 90 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: we both go back to the early days at this franchise. 91 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: We always talked about there would come a day where 92 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: the league would see Jacksonville as a very desirable place, 93 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: and there were moments where it was sprinkled in. But 94 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 1: I'm here to tell you the golden age of Jaguars 95 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: football is opening right now. And I have to believe 96 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: that free agents will look at the Jaguars and say 97 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: to their agent, Hey, is there any way you can 98 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: get me there? I just see that. It's amazing what 99 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: the transition the organization has undergone from a couple of 100 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: years ago to now. And all you had to do 101 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: was suffer through a one and fifteen season, and it 102 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: was a suffering. It was a suffering, but you knew 103 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 1: what it was. It was two years of suffering. I agree, 104 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: But the bad year and then another bad year and 105 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: then just that for a while there, you felt like 106 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: that there was no way out. If you were a 107 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: Jets fan right now, and I know you're not, although 108 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: you're tied to the organization. You just gonna scratch your 109 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: head with all this Aaron Rodger stuff and Zach Wilson 110 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: and they could have had Trevor Lawrence. But we'll leave 111 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: that for another block. So hold that thought. Let's get 112 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,679 Speaker 1: started with the Jaguars. Since legal tampering opened Juwan Taylor 113 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 1: to Kansas City. So from your perspective, how did the 114 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 1: Jaguars adjust their offensive line? That it's a great question. 115 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: First of all, congratulations to Juan one of the great 116 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: excellent year as a person who's ever been here, his 117 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 1: best year. He was. His past protection was fantastic, and 118 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: I said this before. He still has to be better 119 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: in the run game and finished place more consistently, but 120 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,679 Speaker 1: his pass protection, and he needs to give Paul Rauscher 121 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: a cut of that big contract because Rauscher, the offensive 122 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: line coach, did a tremendous job of changing the way 123 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: that Juan played the game. And had a conversation with 124 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: Juan about it this year, and he said, you know, 125 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 1: it was all about the angles for him, and that 126 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: with Phil Rauscher, the new offensive line coach they have 127 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: under Doug Peterson, the angles that he taught made sense 128 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: to him and took him back to what made him 129 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: a very good college player, whereas before under the previous 130 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: coaching staff, the angles were a little bit steeper, which 131 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: was not conducive to his success. And so he got 132 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: a great contract out of which I knew he would. 133 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 1: I figured he'd get somewhere around the eighteen million a 134 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: year range, and he ended up surpassing and and then 135 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: the twenty range. Now and he's going to be protecting 136 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: arguably the best quarterback in the league and going to 137 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl champion Kansiity Chiefs. But from the blindside 138 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: because the word in Kansas City and I talked to 139 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: people there, they've lost both their tackles because Orlando Brown 140 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: Junior signed with the Bengals and they traded one away 141 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: to the Commanders left he was free agent free agent 142 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: and he's a good player too, by the way, right 143 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: because and the question is is will he play left 144 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: or will he play right? For Kansas City which doesn't 145 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: really affect the Jaguars, but just from a personal interest 146 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: Stan because I love the guy. Yeah, we liked Juwan 147 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: and I think he's better suited to play left if 148 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: he can translate the skills that he had it right 149 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: to left. But not all guys can do that well. 150 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: And he's been coached by Andy Heck, who you know well, 151 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: excellent coach, excellent coach and arguably the best offensive line 152 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: coach in the NFL today because of what he's been 153 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: able to do. I mean remember Ken City rebuilt that 154 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: offensive line in no time and did it on a 155 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: lot of blind faith. And Andy was the one who 156 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: shaped that offensive line. And the reason I say that 157 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: he may might be better suited the left is because 158 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: of the reason that I talked about there and that 159 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: he was so strong and pass protection, but yet to 160 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: run game. He left a little to be desired because 161 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: he didn't finish. He wasn't moving people off the line 162 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: of scrimmage, and so that kind of circles back. Okay, 163 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: now he's in Kansas City and whether he's left or 164 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: right doesn't it's going to be interesting to see if 165 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: if he ends up on being on the right side, 166 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: he's the highest paid right tackle in football. If he 167 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: ends up being on left side for kans City, he's 168 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: a top five paid guy, good League. Either way he went, 169 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: he's making a ton of money. Okay, good for him. 170 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: So what does Rauscher do here? What do they do? 171 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: You know, you've got Walker Little and I'd love to 172 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: hear your thoughts on his time in the starting lineup 173 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: at the end of last year and Cam Robinson and 174 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: who belongs where, because that's a conversation among Jaguars fans 175 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: now when the great thing about this situation, You're not 176 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: looking at it from this aspect now, but next year 177 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: you're gonna get a compensatory pick because of Juan Taylor's departs, 178 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: probably a third round pick. So it's gonna be pretty 179 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: high just because of the Contractum, where do you Where 180 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: do you go from here? Cam Robinson played left, Walker 181 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: Little played left walker. Little was in a battle at 182 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: right with Juwan and training camp last year. I've always 183 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: said this, I think that Cam Robinson is naturally suited 184 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: to the right side. Big strong, mean finishes, great run blocker. Okay, 185 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: isn't that what right tackles do okay, Walker little okay, 186 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:10,719 Speaker 1: very good feet, long, armed athletic made tremendous progress this 187 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,439 Speaker 1: past year, and that's to be expected for a guy 188 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 1: that didn't play a lot of snaps of football for 189 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: a number of years. So I look, I love the 190 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: possibilities that exist here. I think they can go either way. 191 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: I don't think either way is going to be a negative. 192 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: But you want to make sure that the players that 193 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: are involved are happy, because if players aren't happy and 194 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: what they're doing, then you know, I mean, well, that's 195 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: where Doug comes in. Right. Well, that's the beauty of 196 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 1: having a guy like Doug Peterson. Doug Peterson can go 197 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: and talk to a player and say, hey, look, you 198 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: know we really need you here, and a player will 199 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: go okay, Doug. Yeah. Now where's a lot of head 200 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: coaches to go to a player and ask them to 201 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: do that and like, I'm not doing that, you know 202 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: because my next contract, Well, Juan was that guy. Juan 203 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: did not He wented nothing to do with playing anything 204 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: but right tackle. If you recall, well, so look, I 205 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: don't know what's going to happen. I think it's going 206 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,719 Speaker 1: to be an interesting decision. What they do. Cam Robinson's 207 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: got a lot more time in at left tackle. Walker 208 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: Little's kind of the new guy on the block. What 209 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: the what's the best long term solution? I think that's 210 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: the way you have to look at it. When I 211 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,599 Speaker 1: say long term, it's not how good the lineup is 212 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: going to be in week one or week two, or 213 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: week three or week four. It's where are you at 214 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: in week fifteen, sixteen, seventeen eighteen going into the playoffs. 215 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: Is that gonna be your best lineup with one guy 216 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: on the left, the other guy on the right, or 217 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: vice versa. I don't know the answer to that. That's 218 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: what they're gonna get paid to do this year, to 219 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: make those tough decisions. Let's stay on that side of 220 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: the ball. With eight, a much lower key loss, but 221 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: still a loss. And Chris mannhards who signed big lonver Broncos. 222 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: So here's my question and you answered it with big loss. 223 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: How does Doug react? Do they go looking for a 224 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: tight end who's got that sort of skill set? Is 225 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: that Darnell Washington to Georgia perhaps to the Philby who 226 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: followed college ball because about the big dude. When Marcedes 227 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: Lewis was here, when Kyle Brady was here, when Chris 228 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 1: man Hurts was here, you knew what those guys did well, 229 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: and it really added to both pass blocking and run blocking. 230 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: It's valuable. Doesn't want that. I think we've kind of 231 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: maybe taken it for granted a little bit in Jackson 232 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: Bill that we've had three of the best blocking tight 233 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: ends in the league, with three different guys and in 234 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: different time frames. Marcedes I think was the best in 235 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: the league by far. I think man Hurts was top 236 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: three in the league in the last couple of years. 237 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: And then Kyle Brady was a man among boys for 238 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: quite a few years here. And man Hurts is a 239 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: guy that I figured that there would be many people 240 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,719 Speaker 1: vying for his services because he's a very talented tight end. 241 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: He's also a decent receiving option, even only oh called 242 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: six balls okay. You know, Look, he can't catch balls 243 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: unless somebody throws him to okay, and he can catch 244 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: him if he gets the ball thrown his way. But 245 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 1: his special and his power and his strength as a 246 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: player is blocking. And look, Sean Payton saw it and 247 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: knows the value of that and scooped him up with 248 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: this system. Does Doug need that guy, Well, well, you'd 249 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: always like to have that guy and I and look 250 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 1: you've got you've got a young guy on your roster 251 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: that uh, that is kind of one of those tight 252 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: ends that can do a little bit of both the 253 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 1: draft pick from a couple of years years ago, higher 254 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: state and you're gonna hit me with it, I know, 255 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna draw a blank here, But you also 256 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: can find a way to accomplish that in the draft. 257 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: But then there's also other ways that you extra offensive 258 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: lineman on the field. Okay, instead of playing a tight 259 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: end like Chris Manherts. I mean, what is any essentially 260 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: an offensive line? He was? Why? Yeah, okay, so if 261 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: you find a good backup guard or tackle, you play 262 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: six offensive linemen in a situation like that, because the 263 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: reality is opponents didn't think that Chris man Hurts was 264 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: going to get vertical for a twenty five yard seam route. Hey. Look, 265 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: it also just happens that this is a really good 266 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: draft for tight ends. There. It's Luke Farrel right, Farrell, 267 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: It's it's a deep draft. I knew you were gonna 268 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 1: go there. I'm like, oh, please don't say that. We 269 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 1: hardly saw Luke Farrell on the field, but he's a 270 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: big enough guy that you could probably get got the 271 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: size he's got and Kennedy developed. I think he's a 272 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: He's one of those guys that can do a little 273 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: bit of both. I'd be stunned though, if they don't 274 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: find a tight end in this draft, because it's a 275 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: pretty deep draft, maybe they end up going with a 276 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: receiving Titan. What's the status of Dan Arnold. He's he 277 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: is right now an unrestricted free agent. He's one of 278 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: those guys who's out, you know, and and they don't 279 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: have the money to be able to go play in 280 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: those veteran players, they've got to replace them. Yeah, that's 281 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: that's That's why if you're going to be a consistent 282 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: winner in the National Football League, the draft is the 283 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 1: lifeblood of your franchise because you can overcome what we're 284 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: talking about here, right, Okay, the loss of Juan Taylor, 285 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 1: the loss of Chris Manherts, the loss of whoever. That's 286 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: why you need to draft well, draft and developed one 287 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: more before we take a break. And that's arden Key 288 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 1: And I know you've got some distinct thoughts. So I 289 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 1: figured he was going to be a player in free 290 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: agency because he's got passability, pass rushability, and you're gonna 291 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: get paid. And it helps when you have a little 292 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: bit of familiarity with somebody, right, Okay, and ran Carthon, 293 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: who's the new general manager of the Tennessee Titans, was 294 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: with the forty nine ers under under their personnel department, 295 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: and that's where obviously where he was at. He's John Lynch, 296 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: and so the familiarity there arden Key, Okay, ran Carthon 297 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: knows Art and Key Art, and Key knows ran Carthon. 298 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: And that's uh. You look at the productivity that ran 299 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: Carthon had, excuse me that arden Key had this past 300 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: year with the limited number of snaps that he had, 301 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: and if look, if you do the math, his numbers 302 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: would actually say that he might be the most productive 303 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: defensive end that the Jaguars had last year. And he 304 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: was also doing some of that work from the defensive 305 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: tackle spot. So a guy that has positional flexibility with 306 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: the ability to be productive is going to make him 307 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: in high demand. And I knew that he was going 308 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: to be a guy that they wanted to keep, but 309 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: I knew it would be hard to keep. Is there 310 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: anyone on the roster Caleb and Chase who can step 311 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: in and give them what he did. Look, I hope 312 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: Caleban can step up. He hasn't shown that yet. I 313 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: think he's giving you high energy snaps and productive snaps. 314 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: He's been a willing contributor on special teams. You know. 315 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: I think the one thing that you got to do 316 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: with Caleb and Chase and you gotta stop looking at 317 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: him like he's a first round pick. I mean, just 318 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: put that out of your mind and say, can he 319 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: help us win games? Can he help us from a 320 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: depth standpoint, we ask the question, and I believe the 321 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: answer to that is yes. Then you can look at 322 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: him wow. But I mean he has all the tools, 323 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: but that's not enough. You have to bring in people 324 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: to compete for that spot. And is that again, a 325 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: lower priced veteran player justin Houston? Oh yeah, Kleis Campbell. 326 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: Could he come back? I mean maybe guys like that 327 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: that are they're not going to command a ton of money. 328 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: Once you find a way to extend Evan Ingram, you 329 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: free up some cap space, You extend whoever else is 330 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: on your roster that you need to to create a 331 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: little bit of room to bring in guys on one 332 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: year deals, right, two year deals to be able to 333 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: spread the money out a little bit more to get 334 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: some production, and you pay him for a specific thing 335 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: and you ask him to do that. Yeah, I mean 336 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: role players like Calais might want to be here with 337 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: the question. That's what Baltimore has done an excellent job of. 338 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: And the thing about Baltimore is is that when you 339 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: do that and then you lose them the next year, 340 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: what do you get? Compensatory picks? Yeah, okay, that's where 341 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: Baltimore has become a master manipulator at the compensatory picks system. 342 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: And if they do what you suggested, which is draft 343 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: and developed, right, you can't keep everybody, as we just 344 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: found out what Juwan Taylor, then you can start playing 345 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: in that game too. One real quick thought before we leave, 346 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: Andrew wingered re up got a three year deal. Congratulations 347 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: to him, by the way, he's a guy we've been thinking. 348 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: You know, as you fit on the roster, you're trying 349 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: to replace. If you've got him starting at safety, you're 350 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: trying to replace him every year because he isn't in 351 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: every down safety. But against Baltimore and against Dallas and 352 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: against the Chargers, he made key plays in the fourth 353 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: quarter in a specific role. Jeff that they didn't want 354 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: to go without. Well, I I give Dewey a lot 355 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: of credit. He's really he's really developed himself through multiple 356 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: regimes here, okay, which is not easy to do. He's 357 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: been I don't want to say satisfied with the role, 358 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 1: but he's never been a disgruntled player because you know 359 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: he's a starter and then he's not. But the reality 360 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: is is that he is a core for special teamer. 361 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: He is a captain level player on special teams. But 362 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 1: he's more than that. Yeah, he can be what I 363 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: consider your third safety without question, and that if he 364 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: has to start, you feel really good about it. Number one. 365 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: Number two, this team has a corner problem. Okay, when 366 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: I say a corner problem, where are they going to 367 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: get a corner from? Okay, we saw it last year 368 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 1: that cornerback was an issue for this football team. So 369 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 1: now you need to find a way to get corners. Well, 370 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: what did you do last year when you didn't have 371 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: corners to play? You put Dewey in and played him 372 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: at dime, which is essentially what a corner would be 373 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: asked to do. In certain games and you had him 374 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: playing in that role. So you bring a guy that 375 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 1: can contribute a little bit in that role who is 376 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: a starting caliber safety. Is your best to safety? Probably not, okay, 377 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 1: but he's right there. And then he's going to give 378 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: you a captain level of lead leadership with your football team, 379 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: with your special teams. I mean, to me, it made 380 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: perfect sense to bring a guy like that. And we're 381 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 1: talking about what three years, a little over nine million. 382 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: You don't want to let that go. And look, I 383 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 1: know that the money today is crazy, but I mean 384 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: in today's level, that's that's that's a good price value, 385 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 1: that's value. All right, let's take a break. Hey, By 386 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: the way, the twenty twenty three season is upon us 387 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: and you don't want to miss out, So you can 388 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 1: lock in your seats here at TI bank Field by 389 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: placing your deposited Jaguars dot Com slash tickets. Seat selections 390 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: coming soon, and the perfect spot to enjoy your game 391 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: days is waiting for you. 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I'm Brian Sexton with 400 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: Jeff log I'm in here on the night before St. 401 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: Patrick's Day, which used to mean a lot to me. 402 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: Now I thought you were gonna say it was Saint 403 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 1: Patrick's Dale. Check. No, no, don't any green. You know, 404 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: when you're younger, it's they It's like Saint Patrick's Day Eve. 405 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 1: Right when you go get ready for Saint Patrick's Day, 406 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 1: you're our age. I think, yeah, it's tomorrow, right. Yeah. 407 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: If you if you're celebrating Saint Patrick's Eve, you're you're 408 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 1: a pretty hardcore I am irish. But we'll leave that 409 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 1: one alone for now. Hey, let's talk about the South. 410 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: So we'll start with the Colts. And by the way, 411 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: the underlying storyline for every team in this division other 412 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: than the Jaguars is who's the quarterback? Exactly right? So 413 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: Shane Steiken steps in. And by the way, the word 414 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: today on the street is that the offensive coordinator from 415 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: Philadelphia last year might be interested in bringing one Gardner 416 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: Minshow to Indianapolis with him. Okay, so, but but look, 417 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: they're starting over a quarterback. I think I read that 418 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: since um Andrew luck up and retired in fifteen, they've 419 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: had a different starting quarterback every year, whether it was 420 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissette or Philip Rivers or uh, why can't I 421 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 1: think of his name, Carson Wentz and then this year 422 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan. I mean, they a franchise, it was so 423 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: stable at quarters even, Yeah, they're so stable, and now 424 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: all of a sudden they're finding out how the other 425 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: half lives. And by the way, Green Bay might be 426 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: figuring that out too, but that's for another conversation. Yeah. Um, so, well, 427 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: i'd look for that this team, and the Jaguars is 428 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: sitting perfectly right. I mean, we were always on the 429 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: outside looking in and all these other franchises that had 430 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: a great quarterback situation, and now we're sitting here going 431 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: we're good. Yeah, And all the other teams in the 432 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: division right now are going to be scrambling to find 433 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: out who's going to be their starter? I mean literally, 434 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: can you guarantee me that any starter with any of 435 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 1: the teams in the division right now? No? No, And 436 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: you see what they're doing now here in Philadelpharmfield with 437 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 1: Shane Steken who came from Philly to India. They've done 438 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: nothing in free agency. They traded Stefan Gilmore to them. 439 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 1: They cut Matt Ryan officially, they cut Matt Ryan. That's 440 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: act in the last and then they they lost Bobby o'kirikey, 441 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: who I thought was a pretty good player the line 442 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: to the Giants player by the way, I thought it 443 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: was a pretty really good You saw pressure from him 444 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: when you see him going out of the division. But 445 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: I mean they resigned Ashton Duelan gay E, j Speed, Yeah, yeah, yeah, 446 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: I mean this this is a total wash. Guys. So, okay, 447 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: is their offensive line still good? I mean, a couple 448 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 1: of years ago we thought they were the best in football, 449 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: and now they Ryan Kelly apparently is on the trading 450 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: block up there. Now they're starting center. Well, he's been 451 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: hurt a lot, and he's been a little bit inconsistent, 452 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: and they know they can can Eric Uh, the guy 453 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: that signed from Kansas City Fisher Fisher He's gone. He's gone. 454 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: So they got issues a yeah, but they've got a 455 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 1: left guard who many people thought was the best guard 456 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 1: in football and the last couple of years would be 457 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: John Hannah. His level of play has not been there. 458 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: I wouldn't even put him in the top five in 459 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 1: the league. I might have a hard time. I might 460 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: have a hard time putting him in the top ten. 461 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 1: And that was a guy who was I mean Prayers, 462 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 1: two time first team All Pro and his first Nelson 463 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: was like the man among boys for the first couple 464 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: of years in the league and then he got this 465 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: big contract. I don't know if he hasn't been healthy, 466 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: but anyway, Yeah, there's a lot of questions with their 467 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 1: offensive line. And when you don't have a quarterback, okay, 468 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 1: makes your offensive line even worse. Okay, when you have 469 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: a great quarterback like Peyton Manning or Tom Brady, that 470 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: makes your offensive line even better. Well, now you've got 471 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: to try to support the quarterback position because it's not 472 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 1: at a high level. They're in a quandary. Yeah, Texans 473 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: are in the same boat. They don't have a great 474 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 1: offensive line, but they've got a couple of pieces that 475 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: are pretty good. Okay, those two tackles. Okay, one guy's 476 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: the tackle slash guard, and they've got one of the 477 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: best pass protecting left tackles in the game, and they 478 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: can fill in any other pieces. I mean, so the 479 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: Texans got a chance. But the question still remains for 480 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 1: them too. Who's their quarterback? And they just signed what 481 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: was his name, the quarterback that they case Keenum, Case Keenum. Yeah, okay, 482 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: well they just brought in case Keenum and at the 483 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: quarterback that they drafted a couple of years ago. So 484 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: all of a sudden wayman, are you given up on 485 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: him to even be a backup because you know they're 486 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: going to draft a quarterback at the number two overall. Hey, 487 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: let's go back to Colts real quick. You know they 488 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: had some talent on defense um DeForrest Buckner. By the way, 489 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: Gus Bradley's back, he's back in Indiana. Yeah, he's the 490 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator again working with I mean, Quitty pay looks 491 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: like a guy who could be special, but he hasn't 492 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 1: been yet. DeForrest Buckner, I think he's a warrior. I 493 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 1: mean he played hurt last year. Player long strong impacts 494 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: the game on all levels. Got a great metal linebacker 495 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 1: if he can get healthy. And he changed his name. 496 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: It was Darius it was now yes, it's Shaquille Leonard. 497 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 1: Thank you. I got it right, Yep, congratulations, got it right. 498 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: But they got a couple of good players, and in 499 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: the back end they're pretty pretty good. I mean, they've 500 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: got some talent on defense. Justin Houston as a free 501 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 1: agent though, who was a good player for them, even 502 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: though he was into something. But he's a guy that 503 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 1: was given him eight nine sacks or something in that range. 504 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, So here's the interesting part for 505 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 1: Indie and then we'll move on to Tennessee. You know, um, 506 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 1: Jim Rsey it he's never had to meddle because he 507 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: had Bill Pollian, and Pollian wouldn't let him meddle. And 508 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: the quarterback any success, he could be the owner and 509 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: sit in the owner's box. It was no problem when 510 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: you had Peyton Manning and even the first couple of 511 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: years with Andrew Luck because they were winning. He could 512 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: be quiet. Well, now they're not winning, and now he's meddling, right, 513 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: He's he's he's getting involved and he's saying things on 514 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: video standing on the on the on the stairs to 515 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: his plane and get a little quirky and all of 516 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,360 Speaker 1: a sudden, a franchise getting a little okay, let's trying 517 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 1: to be fine. You get my point. That was a 518 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: franchise that looked rock solid and all of a sudden 519 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: they look shaky. Yeah, he's things can change in the heartbeat. 520 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: He's different. Yes, I love him for the fact that 521 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 1: the whole Daniel Snyder thing. Yeah, that Jim Rsay was 522 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 1: very honest. He's an upfront with that situation that is 523 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 1: facing the league. But quirky would be an understatement the 524 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: whole Jeff Saturday thing that happened this past year and then. 525 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: But I think he would have hired him to be 526 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: the head coach if it wasn't for the public outcry. 527 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 1: Did he spend like four million dollars in buy Elton 528 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: John's piano. I mean he's yeah, he's does wacky stuff. Well, 529 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: he's a huge fan of rock and roll history, and 530 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 1: so I think he sings too, by the way, willing 531 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: to spend money when it comes to rock and roll 532 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: artifacts or rock and roll He's got like a museum. 533 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: Yeah stuff. It's just that that was a franchise that 534 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: people looked at that it was bedrock, like the Steelers 535 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: or the Giants, you know, the Packers old school, and 536 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 1: I think without the quarterback there to stabilize them, it 537 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: looks shaky. But that's just the reality is is that 538 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 1: that stadium was built by Peyton Man. You bet it was. 539 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 1: They've got to spend a bunch of money trying to 540 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: renovate it with who with who? Who's the quarterball? All right, 541 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: let's move to the Titans new general manager Ran Carthon 542 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 1: with Mike Rabel, who's one of my favorite coaches. But 543 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: I think he's just the performance of that team put 544 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,679 Speaker 1: on here the season, the final Sunday of the season 545 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,919 Speaker 1: with that back Joshua Dobbs who had been on the 546 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: roster for two weeks. All you need to about how 547 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: good a coach he is. So Ran Carthon comes on. 548 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: What's the conversation like for them about the quarterback? Can 549 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill resurrect his career yet again or is it 550 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:19,640 Speaker 1: time to move on? Well, the conversation probably goes like this, Okay, look, 551 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: we're going to support our guy Tanny Hill until we 552 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: can find somebody that's better. Because right now, he's our 553 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 1: best option. But don't you need Derrick Henry running the 554 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: ball well for Ryan tanney Hill to be Ryan Tannehill. Oh? Absolutely? 555 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: They drafted what what what? What rownd pick did they 556 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: spend on their quarterback last year? It was a third Okay, 557 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: so bad to the point that you don't even start 558 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 1: him in the last game of the season. You bring 559 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 1: a guy and Joshua Dobbs hadn't been with the football team, 560 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 1: but for a couple of weeks was on the Lions. 561 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: Pret bad. Yeah, that's I mean that if you're wondering 562 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,439 Speaker 1: about the possibility to him in his future, I mean 563 00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 1: just just go to that. Yeah. Now again, back to Tannihill. 564 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: You're gonna stay with him as long as you have 565 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: to because right now he's their best option. He's a 566 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: he's a legitimate mid level quarterback in the league, and 567 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 1: when he has Derek Henry, he might be If you 568 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 1: had to rank him, he might fall somewhere in the 569 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 1: range of fifteen. Yeah, I mean he was paid if 570 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: he's playing well, and that's and that's okay. Can you 571 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 1: five million dollars year? Guy? Can you win with that? Yeah? 572 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: You can win with that? If you've got a good 573 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: enough roster. But that's the reason why John Robinson's not 574 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 1: the general manager anymore well now, because they don't have 575 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 1: good enough roster around Derrick Henry and the rest of 576 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: the football drafted that quarterback, and I think that is 577 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: maybe what tilted that over the Well wait, Manute, it's 578 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: not just a quarterback that kind of a fello. I 579 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: think about the offensive line that they had a couple 580 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: of years ago when they had Taylor Lawan at left. 581 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: They had the first round pick at right tackle. That's 582 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: now with Cleveland, the kids from Michigan State. Yes, good 583 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: football player, two good guards okay, Ben Jones the center 584 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: which Ben Jones just got the boot. It was playing 585 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: pretty good football for the for the Tennessee Titans had 586 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: a good offensive line, really good offensive line, great running back, 587 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: mid tier quarterback Okay, an explosive guy on the outside, 588 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: and a J. Brown. And they played a style Jeff, 589 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: that they knew how to play. They played it better 590 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: than anyone else. Yeah, played good stout defense, be tough 591 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: as nails. Yeah. And then what happened to the roster. 592 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: The offensive line went downhill. You had multiple draft picks, 593 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: a tackle that turned out to be crapped. Yeah, okay, 594 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: they fell off the black. I mean they had two 595 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: they had the worst two starting tackles in the league 596 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: last year period, the worst, the worst tandem. And they're 597 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: three years removed from having one of the best. And 598 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: but you had Derrick Henry. Yeah, Derrick Henry altogether, he 599 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: should have gotten a big bonus at the end of 600 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: that year. They carrying him because he carried him. Well, 601 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: he's carried him. Can you have a chance to win 602 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: here out here? And damn near got it with Derrick Henry. 603 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: You know, there was some talk that he might be 604 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 1: on the trading block or might be a guy that 605 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: they move on from because he does for all the 606 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: greatness that he brings to the table, and he is great, 607 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: he is limited at this point in his career and 608 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: how he can help you. Here's why you consider trading 609 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: a Derrick Henry. You don't if you want to win. 610 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: But if you want to win, yeah, when like when 611 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: to have a chance to compete for a Super Bowl. 612 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: He's not gonna get you there. Okay, He's a running 613 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: back to starting to get to a point where running 614 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 1: backs don't typically have great years after this specially with 615 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: that style of play he runs Campbell. And so if 616 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: you're a franchise that's trying to have a reset and 617 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: start a little bit over again with a new general 618 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: manager and a really good coach, why wouldn't you try 619 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 1: to get as much as you could for a back 620 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: right now? Why you can because if all of a sudden, 621 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: Derek goes out there this year and puts up a 622 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette type of year, which is significantly lower than 623 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: where he was been thousand yards, Yeah, what would you 624 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: get for Derrick Henry then? Yeah? Nothing? I mean, And 625 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: are you gonna win a super Bowl with Derrick Henry though? 626 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: This year? Next year, year after that. That's why I'm 627 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: saying no move on their Their style of play, get 628 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: it so predictable if you got a lead on them 629 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: at all. They were not built to come from behind. 630 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: But he's a man. Oh man, he's so much fun 631 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: to watch. I love watching him play. Other teams, Yeah, 632 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: this team not so much. So. They've released Bud Dupree, 633 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: Ben Jones, Taylor, the one, they lost linebacker David Long 634 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: to Miami Um. They've signed Andre Dillard and a bunch 635 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: of former forty nine ers that ran Carthon knew, including 636 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: Ard and Key. Well, you're trying to change the culture, 637 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: so you bring it in guys that you trust. Yeah, 638 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: and that's kind of part of that. And so it 639 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: sounds to me like they're on that verge. I mean, 640 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: the large was a guy that couldn't even get a 641 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: starting role in Philadelphia with their two tackles. Stay health, 642 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: stay healthy. So but but here's the thing. I was 643 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: shocked that Tennessee didn't make could a plane. Maybe they 644 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: did for Juan Taylor. I thought, yeah, that would be 645 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: right up their alley. They need a tackle. Maybe they did. 646 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if you're Juan Kansas City or Tennessee. 647 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: I mean, see it hands down, Patrick Mahomes, Ryan Tanney Hill, Yeah, Um, 648 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: who else do they have? Give me a minute, think 649 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: about that twenty million? Yeah, let's go, Yeah, let's go. 650 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 1: It looks to me like this is a let's see 651 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: what we can do. We'll blow it up after twenty 652 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: twenty three. If it doesn't go the way we want 653 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: it to, you're gonna have to anyway. They might. They 654 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: might blow it up now right if if you trade 655 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry right now, which there was a whisper right. 656 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's any anything substant upon. Maybe 657 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: around the draft someone well, I mean blow it up now, 658 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: I mean why Yeah, Well, maybe that's what they're doing 659 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: with all the guys they've released. They let Robert Woods go, 660 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: not that he was a great player, but he was 661 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: one of their more um more redependable wide receivers. Yeah. 662 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: But again, if you don't have the productivity of your 663 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: offensive line where your quarterback and have a little bit 664 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: of time to throw the football, it looks like a rebuild. 665 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: You got no chance. I mean, your quarterback doesn't have 666 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: a chance. Ryan Tanner Hill has got to get better 667 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: if the offensive line can get better. Because if if 668 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: that offensive line stays the way it had been, I 669 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: don't care who you are, Derek Henrick Hill still get 670 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: his yards because he's Derek Derek. He just needs to 671 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: see him. But you got me for the quarterback, know 672 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: aj Brown John Robins, they traded him. I thought the 673 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: reaction of Mike Rabel in the draft room when that 674 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:32,239 Speaker 1: happened said it all. And then you see walked out 675 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: of the road. He knew what he was dealing with. 676 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: You think he was on board with that trade? No, 677 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: how about the Texans. I liked Mika Ryan's the higher. 678 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: I always thought he was a headseep player. I mean, 679 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: I always thought he was one of us. Let's let's 680 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: say smart players go beyond the player. The job that 681 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: he was able to do in San Francisco of that defense, 682 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: he did a tremendous job. Now, talent wise, that might 683 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: be one of the most talented groups, but you still 684 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: have to find them the play and he did. But 685 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: he had great players in San Francisco, great leader as 686 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 1: a player, and uh, typically players that have leadership have 687 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,359 Speaker 1: leadership and when when they take over as the head coach, 688 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: they also have a great opportunity to be a great leader. 689 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,359 Speaker 1: There logs if the three teams in this division other 690 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: than the Jaguars, this is the one I think that 691 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: has the chance to resurrect itself because they've got cap 692 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 1: room and draft picks. I would agree with you. And 693 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: when they got some pieces in place, But the quarterback 694 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: is going to be the key for them. And you 695 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 1: figure that they're going to draft the second best quarterback 696 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 1: or the one they like the most, uh at number 697 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 1: two overall? Yeah, see that this is what you said 698 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,439 Speaker 1: right there. First of all brings up and to bring 699 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: up a whole discussion the second best quarterback. Yeah, tell 700 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: me who the best quarterback is in this draft. Well, 701 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: at the risk of sounding stupid to someone who does 702 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 1: this for a living in the other room, I think C. J. 703 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 1: Stroud would be the guy I'd be most interested me. 704 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:58,280 Speaker 1: Is there a clear cut is an? Is there a 705 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence? Trev Lawrence? Okay, Okay, Now let's look at 706 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,359 Speaker 1: this list that we're gonna take a little quick advanced look, 707 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,959 Speaker 1: okay about this quarterback carousel, because we're gonna talk about 708 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,240 Speaker 1: in the next next segment. How many of these guys, 709 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, Bicker Mayfield, h Carson Wentz, Marcus Mariota, Teddy 710 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 1: Bridgewater first round pick, Yeah, okay, Drew Locke, Blaine Gabbert. 711 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 1: These are all high picks that didn't turn out. And 712 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: these are all guys that just recently changed teams or 713 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: or are sitting there waiting to have a job. Okay. Funny, 714 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 1: we could be talking about all of these guys that 715 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: during the draft class right now, Zach Wilson. A few 716 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: years they could be on that list. Yeah, add Zach 717 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 1: Wilson to that. In New York right, another example of 718 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: a guy who you take high. But Darnald was the 719 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 1: top five pick. Mayfield was the first pick in the draft. 720 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 1: M Carson Wentz was the first pick in the draft. 721 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota was the second pick in the draft. Bridgewater 722 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 1: was the end of the first round guy. Joe Flacco 723 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 1: was a mid first round pick. Blaine Gabbert was a 724 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: top ten pick. And you see all those guys, so well, 725 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 1: hold on, well, you've got to get it right, and 726 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 1: you don't know whether you got it or not. If 727 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: you were if you were Denika Ryan's and you didn't 728 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: like any of those guys, would you just take the 729 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,439 Speaker 1: best player you could find, whether that's at Jalen Carter 730 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 1: or Will Anderson defensive player as opposed to take a 731 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 1: quarterback that's a question mark. Or would you take a 732 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 1: quarterback because then the next year you take another one. Well, 733 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 1: if you if if you can trade out of that 734 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,320 Speaker 1: spot for somebody who loves somebody and you don't believe 735 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: in somebody, you do it. Now, are there the Texans 736 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: fan base? Are they going to be happy that you 737 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 1: just traded away hope and change, because that's kind of 738 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 1: what it represents I mean when you draft a quarterback 739 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 1: and the top five, it represents hope and change, the 740 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: quarterback that they signed in free agencies, not hope and change. 741 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 1: He started there. Do you remember that he was there 742 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 1: in twenty firsteen, Ryan Davis and I were having competing 743 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,320 Speaker 1: first starting job. Yep, that's well, that's who Ryan Davis 744 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: sacked and intercepted to win those two games against the Texans. 745 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,879 Speaker 1: If you recall two of Gus Bradley's four wins first 746 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,840 Speaker 1: year that I just hadn't mean by the way podcasts 747 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 1: coming from him. But you know, to answer your question, yes, 748 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 1: you could consider doing that. But then the heat that 749 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 1: the seat gets hotter in Houston, not for the coach, 750 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 1: but for the general manager and ownership because they still 751 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 1: have an identified starting franchise quarterback. And if you can 752 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,320 Speaker 1: find a way though to finagle some huge draft capital, 753 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 1: that would enable you because the reality is are probably 754 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,320 Speaker 1: going to be a top ten picking team next year. Again, 755 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 1: you know, could you end up finding a way to 756 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 1: get a guy And here's the other thing, they could 757 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 1: trade out of that spot because maybe they love a 758 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 1: guy that's going to be there at seven or eight, 759 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: or they've got a pick twelve. Also they got two. 760 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 1: I mean, that's why their position. When Carolina made that trade, 761 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: I was like, are you kidding me? They gave up 762 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,919 Speaker 1: all of that for for a draft class that really 763 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 1: doesn't have anybody that everybody is a consensus this is 764 00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: the guy. Yeah, there's nobody that could tell you this 765 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,439 Speaker 1: is the consensus one or even two. No, that's that's 766 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 1: how crazy it is. This conversation, which we're about to 767 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 1: wrap up, just shows you how strong the Jaguars position 768 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 1: is at the top of the AFC South. Because even 769 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 1: though I really like Damiko Ryan's he's never been a 770 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 1: head coach before. Same thing with Shane Siken, you know, 771 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 1: very well regarded, and what he did last year in 772 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,919 Speaker 1: Philly tells you a lot about what kind of coach 773 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 1: he is. But the quarterback position, and all three of 774 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 1: these teams two coaches without here, you've got Doug Peterson 775 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 1: and Trevor Lawrence. You've got question marks all over the place. 776 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: This is the Jaguars division if they do it right. Yeah, 777 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 1: you got you. Look, you gotta have a coach and 778 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 1: you gotta have a quarterback yep. And just the way 779 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 1: it is, I mean you go you look at the 780 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 1: great teams in NFL, the teams that win Super Bowls, 781 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 1: there's been like one Hall of Fame coach has been 782 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: able to win Super Bowls without a Hall of Fame quarterback, 783 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 1: it seems like, and that's Joe Gibbs. It didn't have 784 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame quarterback. No, I mean most of 785 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 1: the other guys that won Super Bowls had Hall of 786 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 1: Fame quarterback. Ran Billick did it with Trent Dilfer, but 787 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,919 Speaker 1: he had, you know, two thousand yard rusher defense, all 788 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 1: time defense. Yes, all right, let's take a break. When 789 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 1: we come back, we'll turn the conversation to the quarterback 790 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 1: carousel around the NFL. This is Jaguars Happy Hour, and 791 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 1: this is the Jaguars Digital Network, the station that the 792 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 1: Jaguars listened to ten ten XL, home of the Jacksonville Jaguars. 793 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 1: Rolling right along here Jaguars Happy Hour, Brian Sexton in 794 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 1: this evening along with Jeff Lageman. And you're not get 795 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 1: out and speak to a lot of rotary clubs and 796 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 1: things like that in the offseason, and I open every 797 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 1: one of them with the golden age of Jaguars football 798 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 1: has just dawned, and everyone wants to hear that, right, 799 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 1: And with what happened last year, it's so easy to 800 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 1: say that. However, the reason I'm saying it's because they 801 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 1: have a quarterback. And when this list of quarterbacks and 802 00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 1: these teams they're desperate for quarterback. Um, thank god the 803 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 1: Jaguars are not on this list. That's the reason. Doug 804 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 1: and Trevor. But Trevor, right, Doug wouldn't be here without Trevor. 805 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 1: But give me a break. Look at this right, So 806 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 1: you've got um Derek cart in New Orleans. Okay, well, 807 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 1: let me just say this, when when the Raiders were 808 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:25,359 Speaker 1: coming here watching the games coming in that he was playing. Yeah, 809 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 1: I thought he was a bottom third quarterback in the league. 810 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 1: To put the level of play in that game, if 811 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 1: he plays average, If he plays average, probably in the 812 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,319 Speaker 1: second half they win because they're up seventeen. Nothing. He 813 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,799 Speaker 1: was so bad anyway, But he's gonna read, he's gonna 814 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,360 Speaker 1: he's gonna resurrect things in New Orleans. Oh, him and 815 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,960 Speaker 1: Jamis Swaston, I mean, you know their championship caliber. You've 816 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 1: always kind of been Finn did. Jamis havn't yet. Jamis 817 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 1: was very immature at Florida State and uh, and he's 818 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 1: still got a little grown up to do, all right, 819 00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:58,719 Speaker 1: So how about this one? And I kind of like 820 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 1: this one because Jimmy Garoppa, I was going back to 821 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 1: the Patriot Way there with Josh McDaniels and Garoppo has 822 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 1: had some success, but they canna let him go in 823 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 1: San Francisco and he's still somewhat in his prime. For goodness, 824 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 1: he'll play better with the Raiders by far than Derek Carr. 825 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,360 Speaker 1: I mean it won't even close. But is he the answer? 826 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 1: Is he gonna get to take you to a championship? Yeah, 827 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,359 Speaker 1: he took them to a super Bowl. I find that 828 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,439 Speaker 1: first of all the division that they're playing in. Yeah, 829 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,400 Speaker 1: it's lights out. Yeah I have I think that's a 830 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 1: hard that would be tough. But I think he'll get 831 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 1: them playing better ball. Okay, yeah, they'll make them better. 832 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:40,879 Speaker 1: He give Josh McDaniels a chance to show what kind 833 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,400 Speaker 1: of coach he is, which he hasn't done. Really, Josh 834 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,879 Speaker 1: better win with him, Yeah, I doan Josh hasn't done 835 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:48,919 Speaker 1: very well so far as being a head coach. Gonna 836 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 1: hold off on Aaron Rodgers and get your thoughts on him. 837 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 1: Last n Sam Darnold to San Francisco in a backup 838 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:57,920 Speaker 1: role or a backup. Maybe he's a backup. Yeah, Trey 839 00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 1: Lance coming back off of a severe ankle. And you've 840 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 1: got um the kid this year, Purty who had the party. Yeah. 841 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 1: The elbow surgeries, well, supposedly the surgery that he had 842 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 1: was was favorable and that it wasn't as bad as 843 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,760 Speaker 1: they thought it could be. They didn't they going into 844 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,359 Speaker 1: the surgery. According to the specialist, you don't know how 845 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 1: severe it is until you actually get in there. Supposedly 846 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 1: the news was good from that standpoint. They're saying that 847 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 1: six months he's back full of back thrown. Okay, that 848 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 1: was probably one of the few injuries you didn't have 849 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,399 Speaker 1: in your NFL. Right, that was I mean, that was ugly. 850 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 1: I mean that's I think the owner whatever it is, 851 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:37,879 Speaker 1: that Tommy Johns. That's serious stuff. Um. One more guy 852 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 1: who's really in a starting role, and that's Baker Mayfield 853 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,400 Speaker 1: to Tampa Bay maybe first overall pick well could he 854 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:48,280 Speaker 1: be the starter? Um, I don't know. I mean they 855 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 1: look Tampa is a mess. Yeah, well you knew they 856 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 1: they sold out for for the championship. Yeah, the tam 857 00:42:54,760 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 1: Tampas a mess. They they are gonna be. They're three 858 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 1: years away. They're like Tennessee. Yeah, I mean they got 859 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,279 Speaker 1: a rebuild and they don't have a quarterback, and yeah, 860 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:07,920 Speaker 1: they're they're a long ways out. So let me run 861 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 1: through this list. Here. You have Andy Dalton who's still around. 862 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 1: He's going to Carolina. He's back up, you know, helped 863 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 1: groom the draft pick. Yeah, Mike White to Miami. I 864 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 1: like Mike whet I think he's a good backup for 865 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,359 Speaker 1: toa if Ta gets hurt. Then Mike White, who did 866 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,400 Speaker 1: some good things with the Jets when he was healthy. 867 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 1: I think that's a good pickup for Miami. I like him. 868 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 1: Taylor Heineke to Atlanta. Uh, I mean Atlanta doesn't really 869 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 1: have a quarterback either. No, Atlanta is still trying to 870 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,800 Speaker 1: figure things out. I could he come in and compete 871 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 1: with Ritter? Yeah, they're draft pick because Mariota's gone. Yeah, 872 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,880 Speaker 1: I think it could. They could compete. Jared's did him 873 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 1: is going to back up Russell Wilson in Denver. Nick 874 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 1: Mullins is going to Minnesota. Yeah, and then you've got 875 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,560 Speaker 1: this state in Minnesota, right, I think he say Okay, 876 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,520 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz, Marcus Mariota, Terry Bridgewater, Mason Rudolph, Joe Flacco, 877 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,320 Speaker 1: Drew Lock, Blaine Gabbertt, Kyle Allen, Jacoby Brict just signed 878 00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 1: in Washington. Ye. Man, if you're playing on this carousel, 879 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:06,280 Speaker 1: if you're riding this thing, you're looking at the Bills, 880 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:11,239 Speaker 1: the Chargers, the Chiefs, the Jaguars, and you're thinking, my god, 881 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 1: how do I get there? I mean it's musical chairs. 882 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,399 Speaker 1: Forget the carousels. Musical chairs and you you have a chair. 883 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 1: And if you're the guys that you said, they're at 884 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:23,240 Speaker 1: the very end. Carson Wentz, Mariota, Bridge of Water, Mason, Rudolph, Flacco, 885 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,919 Speaker 1: Drew Drew Lock, Blaine Gabbert, Kyle al and Jacoby roset Hey. 886 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,720 Speaker 1: Look a backup quarterback gets gigs pretty good man. Yeah. 887 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 1: And what's Blaine Gabbert made? This will be his thirteenth 888 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,680 Speaker 1: season and he's almost at fifty million dollars in career. 889 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 1: I mean, what's wrong with that? And he has never 890 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,680 Speaker 1: been a straight up a backup quar Chad Henny He 891 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:41,719 Speaker 1: was Chat and Henny not had the best job on 892 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 1: a planet. Well he did, he retired. Yeah, apparently the 893 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,839 Speaker 1: chiefs have asked him to come back. Well, he's got 894 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,719 Speaker 1: two Super Bowl rings in fifty million bucks, he's got 895 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,759 Speaker 1: fairly young kids. What's wrong with fifty five? You and 896 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,040 Speaker 1: I are the same mindset, my friend, because we don't 897 00:44:56,080 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 1: have fifty five. The deck of Patrick Maholes, Yeah, exactly 898 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,520 Speaker 1: an extra five millions. He played one drive all year, right, 899 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:08,080 Speaker 1: and he did pretty good scoring Drew. It was the 900 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,239 Speaker 1: thing that pretty much much win that playoff game. All right, 901 00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,080 Speaker 1: we'll drive frustrates so so you would it frustrates me too. 902 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,280 Speaker 1: So you would agree that the Jaguars are in a 903 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:20,160 Speaker 1: plumb position. Well they are, but they still have holes 904 00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 1: to fill. Yeah, and they have work to do, and 905 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,839 Speaker 1: so they will get to work. What did Doug say 906 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,759 Speaker 1: at the combine? He said, do you like Trevor? We do, 907 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 1: so we're gonna keep him up, right. That's a good plan. 908 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,319 Speaker 1: Good plan. I like that plan. We'll take our final break, 909 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,560 Speaker 1: We'll come back and look around the National Football League, 910 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,480 Speaker 1: get some stories with two former Jaguars who have found 911 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,520 Speaker 1: their way to the street that when we return here 912 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:57,440 Speaker 1: on Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Well, 913 00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,479 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty three concert seasons upon us, and there's 914 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,720 Speaker 1: no better time to become a Dailies Placed Blue member. 915 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,279 Speaker 1: Enjoyed the best seats and amenities, premium parking and more 916 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,480 Speaker 1: while you watch Kenny Chesney Old Dominion, Yellow Card and 917 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,560 Speaker 1: so much more for information called nine oh four six 918 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,879 Speaker 1: three three two thousand. That's nine oh four six three 919 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 1: three two thousand. Yeah, First of all, this was fine. 920 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,000 Speaker 1: It was great to sit in here with you this evening. 921 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:22,920 Speaker 1: And we did this a few years. Yeah, we did 922 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:24,840 Speaker 1: a long time. We did it when things weren't so 923 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,600 Speaker 1: good and there wasn't much to talk about. I have 924 00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,600 Speaker 1: a couple of quick things I want to run by you. Miles. 925 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,880 Speaker 1: Jack was released by the Steelers today. I know that 926 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 1: he couldn't practice that much when he was here in 927 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. The knee. That was a problem when 928 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,879 Speaker 1: he came out. But you think maybe he just needs 929 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:46,560 Speaker 1: to find a better situation than Pittsburgh. Well, I think 930 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 1: I think the knee probably hampers him a little bit 931 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,120 Speaker 1: from when it comes to the ability to train and 932 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,600 Speaker 1: being great shape. And that's always a little bit of 933 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,279 Speaker 1: a knock that I had on Myles Jack is that 934 00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 1: I never thought that he was in the best shape 935 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 1: he could be in. And uh, but I love the 936 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,440 Speaker 1: way he played a game because he was a thumper, 937 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,480 Speaker 1: and he was a willing thumper. Well, and he made 938 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,319 Speaker 1: big plays when you need a big plays. I'll never 939 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 1: forget the interception in Pittsburgh on the sideline. M Leonard 940 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,279 Speaker 1: Furnette was released today too. Yeah, it doesn't surprise me 941 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,160 Speaker 1: at of like three and a half yards to carry. 942 00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,440 Speaker 1: This past year in Tampa was a bad year. There 943 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,080 Speaker 1: was a lot of times where you saw Tom Brady 944 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:26,920 Speaker 1: yelling Leny money. You know that's not good. Well he 945 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,320 Speaker 1: got a ring out of it. And Leonard was always 946 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,080 Speaker 1: just a little bit different. Uh, by the way, do 947 00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:33,920 Speaker 1: you like Aaron Rodgers going to the Jets? Well I was, 948 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,799 Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you, Um so, my oldest son 949 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:43,120 Speaker 1: is a big Aaron Rodgers fan. He oh yeah, yeah. Well, 950 00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:44,560 Speaker 1: you know, he grew up at a time where the 951 00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,719 Speaker 1: Jaguars were very good and his best friend was from Milwaukee, right, 952 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,400 Speaker 1: so he watched a lot of Aaron Rodgers. And if 953 00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,360 Speaker 1: you're gonna watch quarterbacks, that was, by the way, the 954 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,319 Speaker 1: good Aaron Rodgers. Before he goes to a dark room 955 00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,600 Speaker 1: to decide whether he wants to play or what was 956 00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:02,399 Speaker 1: the toad venom that he ingested Huffton in Peru last year. 957 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,200 Speaker 1: I mean, he's gone weird, So as far as I'm concerned, 958 00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,760 Speaker 1: the Jets can have him. But I don't mind weird. 959 00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:12,200 Speaker 1: Okay when it comes to your time, but when it 960 00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:16,840 Speaker 1: comes time to start team building and helping your team 961 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,520 Speaker 1: get better, being a participant in the OTA's the all 962 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:26,160 Speaker 1: season workouts, things that Tom Brady did when we had 963 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,719 Speaker 1: a pandemic going on. Yeah, and Tom was like, hey, 964 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:32,439 Speaker 1: let's get guys out there. Will Aaron Rodgers show up 965 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,279 Speaker 1: for the voluntary workouts for the New York Jets to 966 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,560 Speaker 1: help his teammates get better? Do you get the sense 967 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,640 Speaker 1: that's him anymore? I mean it's I don't now if 968 00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,520 Speaker 1: I'm New York. I swing because I'm New York, right, 969 00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:47,840 Speaker 1: and you know, make a splash. The TV did change 970 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:51,560 Speaker 1: this year. Their pens in New York are really sharp. Yeah, okay, 971 00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:56,279 Speaker 1: And Aaron is a little thin skin. Yeah, he might 972 00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,120 Speaker 1: not gonna be an interesting way, Yeah, he's well, it'll 973 00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:00,960 Speaker 1: be a lot of fun. When I was in college, 974 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,960 Speaker 1: I entered at a TV station in Kansas City, and 975 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,200 Speaker 1: I used to stay late to watch Mike Ditka's press 976 00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,120 Speaker 1: conference that was before the internet. He's the best and 977 00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,880 Speaker 1: he was sharp. Aaron Rodgers might be that guy that 978 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,680 Speaker 1: I go looking for his press conference every week. Yeah, 979 00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,920 Speaker 1: because you know what, the media in Green Bay is 980 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,320 Speaker 1: much more gentle than New York. So, but they're bringing 981 00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,920 Speaker 1: in everybody. I mean, they signed Allan Lazard. Apparently Marcedes 982 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:24,840 Speaker 1: Lewis is on their shopping list. I mean they're bringing 983 00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,239 Speaker 1: a bunch of packers in. It's kind of like Mercedes 984 00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,960 Speaker 1: couldn't play anymore when we let him go here in Jacksonville. 985 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,640 Speaker 1: I love Marcedes. I still I'm stinging that he's no 986 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:37,440 Speaker 1: longer here. UM love him, But this is a this 987 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,439 Speaker 1: is Tampa Bay North, right. I mean they're they're gonna 988 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,920 Speaker 1: try to win a championship. They've got a really good defense, 989 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,480 Speaker 1: really good defense, really good defense, and a really good coach. 990 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,880 Speaker 1: I like Robert Yeah, I think he's a stud. And 991 00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:54,040 Speaker 1: uh Hackett, Nate Hackett. Oh yeah, you know, you had 992 00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,600 Speaker 1: such a tough go and his dad he knows New 993 00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,719 Speaker 1: York because his dad was the offensive coordination. And then 994 00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,560 Speaker 1: all sudden you got Aaron Rodgers and it turns into 995 00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:05,080 Speaker 1: a bad show because I can't use the other words. 996 00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,160 Speaker 1: It's not going to be well. Happy Saint Patrick's Day. 997 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,799 Speaker 1: To thank you, I hope you enjoy We're Green tomorrow. Yeah, 998 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:12,479 Speaker 1: please do. All right, it's great to see it. Jeff 999 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:17,640 Speaker 1: and Joe Fortunato and David Choe, our entire broadcast crew 1000 00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,160 Speaker 1: here from Jaguars Central. Do we still call it that? 1001 00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,279 Speaker 1: All right? I guess I kind of do. That'll do it. 1002 00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,239 Speaker 1: Thanks to Allie for listening and watching. Had a great 1003 00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:26,960 Speaker 1: night and a great weekend. We'll talk to you next week.