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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome back to another episode of the

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Speaker 1: mets Up Podcast. James taking the intro of this episode

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Speaker 1: because Mark has a little bitty, tiny, little bitty the

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Speaker 1: sore throat. He can't talk that much. He can't be

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Speaker 1: that loud this episode. But we're back. Have a great

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Speaker 1: episode coming at you guys, talking about a good not

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Speaker 1: great series against the Rockies, talking a lot about this lineup,

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Speaker 1: his pitching staff, where this team kind of is overall

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Speaker 1: as we head into the All Star break, We're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about Pete, a little bit of Home Run Derby,

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Speaker 1: gonna talk a little bit MLB Draft, I'm gonna do

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Speaker 1: some classic media marvels like we always give you guys

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Speaker 1: on Monday. But first gotta do the plugs. I don't

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Speaker 1: do the plugs it often, so I might forget some things.

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Speaker 1: But if you're not following us, follow us on Twitter, Instagram,

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Speaker 1: I think that's everything. Marcus pumping at fist so I

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Speaker 1: think I got it all. But now reversing the roles, Mark,

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Speaker 1: how do you feel with your litter. The tiny start

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Speaker 1: throat terrible. My uvula is so inflamed. It feels like

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Speaker 1: I'm like I could feel it danguline in my throat,

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Speaker 1: touching my tongue. It's it's a constant battle of needing

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Speaker 1: to talk because the MLB Draft is going on today

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Speaker 1: and that's like one of the biggest things I do

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Speaker 1: all year, and also feeling like I'm gonna vomit at

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Speaker 1: any moment because I'm speaking. So yeah, it's a fun one,

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Speaker 1: but uh, I'll try to do as much talking as

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Speaker 1: I possibly can. A little bit disappointing though, that we

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Speaker 1: couldn't get sweep today. Yeah, disappointing. You did say you

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be satisfied with this, yeraries who was sweep. Do

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Speaker 1: you not feel satisfied with the series?

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Speaker 2: No, I don't, especially because we had a lot of opportunities.

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Speaker 2: I felt like in Game three as well, where the Mets,

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Speaker 2: I know they were always coming back, but there was

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Speaker 2: that one inning where Pete Alvarez at Viento's I think

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Speaker 2: and that just kind of can't happen. And then late

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Speaker 2: I mean I'm being picky here and I'm being a

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Speaker 2: little critical, like you're losing the game, you're not expected

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Speaker 2: to come back and win. But it felt like one

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Speaker 2: of those the Mets could have came back and won,

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Speaker 2: and honestly should have.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, get us. I I'd take a little

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Speaker 1: different mindset because I felt like the two games Friday

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Speaker 1: these three games at least, I was like, that's fine,

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Speaker 1: because if you were to lose the series to the Rockets,

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Speaker 1: you kind of kill all the first half vibes. If

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Speaker 1: you win it, you now would have said a new

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Speaker 1: high watermark in the season. The Mets would have been

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Speaker 1: five games over five hundred for literally the first time

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Speaker 1: But nice for like I say, like nice for heat check,

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Speaker 1: but just it's against I could not great. It can't

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Speaker 1: be mad about winning a series, but I'm not. I

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Speaker 1: don't know you are, right though, that the way they

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Speaker 1: lost those last few winnings, having two men on seemingly

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Speaker 1: Some people online were mad that JJ Martinez hit for

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Speaker 1: Jeff McNeil, but he did not hit for Tyron Taylor

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Speaker 1: the at bat before. We struck down on three three

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Speaker 1: but again, just there these are real first world problems

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Speaker 1: that we're talking about going into the All Star Break.

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Speaker 1: If you think about where this team was six weeks so,

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Speaker 1: he'd be like, fuck, you guys are complaining about.

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Speaker 2: It like this. Yeah, I mean like at the end

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Speaker 2: It's kind of crazy. He got on base what three

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Speaker 1: I mean even I'm pushing the Jose Glacy as a

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Speaker 1: was like, Pete hit a home run, but like Moose

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Speaker 1: do that, Jose Glacies. I don't even think this is

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Speaker 2: No, he's he's been shockingly good for someone that nobody

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Speaker 2: that Jose Glaciers has that he could cause trouble, But man,

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Speaker 2: has he helped this Mets team out so much? And

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Speaker 2: people also forget too. I know it was a thirty

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Speaker 1: He made a lot of really nice plays at third

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Speaker 2: were great bad ball hitters.

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Speaker 1: Great totally. If you're gonna hit the bad ball for

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Speaker 1: an extra base hit, sure, but I don't. I don't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this lineup looks really good. I mean on Friday

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean pretty fucking good. So I kind of

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Speaker 1: Like that's what it means. I feel like when basic

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Speaker 1: Like sometimes like we know Mark Vianzo's has a ton

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Speaker 1: Like this guy is is kind of like literally built different.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it took us a long time to see it.

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Speaker 2: good Harrison Bader's been as well, because defensively he's just

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Speaker 1: Rodny talked about this this weekend too. I don't remember

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Speaker 1: little bit, we'll throw it on. But just the fact

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Speaker 2: fix them. He will not be the picture that we

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Speaker 2: hope and think of him as if he does not

431
00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:28,800
Speaker 2: make these adjustments. So we'll see after the All Star

432
00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,040
Speaker 2: break what he looks like. Got a nice little, nice

433
00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,400
Speaker 2: little time off here, hopefully get back to it. Let's

434
00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,280
Speaker 2: go to the bullpen, though, because the bullpen obviously is

435
00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,640
Speaker 2: a mess. But two guys who are not two guys

436
00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:41,160
Speaker 2: that are for the people, very very smart brands, Jose

437
00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,680
Speaker 2: Budo and Dedniel Nunez. I mean, Jesus Chrice. These guys

438
00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,040
Speaker 2: have saved the New York met season because again, the

439
00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,720
Speaker 2: bullpen is a mess. It is an absolute shit show.

440
00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,680
Speaker 2: But Jose Budo is just so nasty out of the pen.

441
00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:55,080
Speaker 2: It's crazy.

442
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Speaker 1: This is the prophecy be foretold in this podcast when

443
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Speaker 1: we first began it three years ago, Like this got

444
00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:01,720
Speaker 1: Budo comes up like I don't know if he has

445
00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:03,560
Speaker 1: all the stuff to be a star, but man, and

446
00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,240
Speaker 1: like a two three inning net relief roll, this will

447
00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,280
Speaker 1: be nasty. All it needed was a full organizational overhaul

448
00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,359
Speaker 1: and new president Baseball Operations who approves of using pitches

449
00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,639
Speaker 1: in these strange roles. And it finally fucking happened. But

450
00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:17,399
Speaker 1: all those same lefties that gave Scott trouble Hilliard Cave

451
00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:22,520
Speaker 1: Blackman McMahon, Jose Buda walked in and murdered them, crushed them.

452
00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:24,680
Speaker 1: He just kept throwing that change up, change up, change

453
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Speaker 1: up against them. They couldn't hit it, couldn't even touch it.

454
00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,200
Speaker 1: They swung seven times a change up, and they swung

455
00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,919
Speaker 1: a miss all seven times. I've never seen a whiffray

456
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Speaker 1: of one hundred percent a pitch thrown that off in

457
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Speaker 1: a game. It was crazy.

458
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's pretty cool that for a team that's

459
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Speaker 2: definitely struggling, struggling with getting lefties out, especially in the

460
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Speaker 2: bullpen because Jake Deekmon's been just not very good to

461
00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:45,800
Speaker 2: be able to use Buddha, who's good against righty's and

462
00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,560
Speaker 2: also good against lefties with that change, but it's so valuable.

463
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and there was that. There was that bat at

464
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Speaker 1: bathroom McMahon the eighth inning. I think Buddo made him

465
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Speaker 1: swing a miss two or three times, and then that

466
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Speaker 1: batt alone on the change in a bit of a

467
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Speaker 1: tense moment before dead. Neielle ends up coming in finishing

468
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Speaker 1: this game, but he just we love him so much

469
00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,440
Speaker 1: and nunyaz Hi key save this entire match, So yeah,

470
00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,920
Speaker 1: it did if he if he he's as good now

471
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Speaker 1: as Riguerre was in the first six weeks of season.

472
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Speaker 1: Now he's done this for the second six weeks. So

473
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Speaker 1: now again it's all about David Terence who's gonna do

474
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Speaker 1: it for the next six weeks and we try to

475
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Speaker 1: figure this out because the MDA, Yeah, I mean maybe

476
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Speaker 1: it's Bmdo, maybe this Shintaro, maybe maybe just Nunia's is

477
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Speaker 1: this good now? And he's awesome? Like I it was

478
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Speaker 1: nice that in a weekend where two out of the

479
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Speaker 1: three games, the Mets bullpen kind of fucking implode it

480
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Speaker 1: that there was this one game on Saturday where these

481
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Speaker 1: two came in four and two thirds innings and just

482
00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,359
Speaker 1: eight strikeouts, one walk, one hit, beautiful, no no one

483
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Speaker 1: touching him.

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Speaker 2: I'm also wondering what happened because Daniel Nuniaz has been

485
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Speaker 2: a guy that's walked a ton dudes the last couple

486
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Speaker 2: of years in Triple A and he's just come up

487
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Speaker 2: and he throws strikes and gets swings and misses, Like

488
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Speaker 2: the strikeouts have been kind of more fluid from in

489
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Speaker 2: the minors, but in terms of walks, he was a

490
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Speaker 2: guy last year who had a fourteen percent walk rate

491
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Speaker 2: at Triple A. This year in Triple A at a

492
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Speaker 2: twelve percent walk right, and now he's at four point four.

493
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Speaker 2: It's like pretty insane. He is such a good fireman

494
00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,639
Speaker 2: to just come in and clean up the situation whenever

495
00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,400
Speaker 2: it gets in trouble, and it seems like Carlos Mendoza's like, yeah,

496
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Speaker 2: you're my guy now. Yeah.

497
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Speaker 1: I don't have enough location data and guys in the

498
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Speaker 1: minor leagues, but I hypothesize based on seeing where Dad

499
00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,520
Speaker 1: Neail Nunias throws his fastball this year and it's just

500
00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:17,960
Speaker 1: basically down the middle because it's fuck you fastball and

501
00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,080
Speaker 1: you can't hit this fastball. I bet that's what the

502
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Speaker 1: Mets told him, Like, your stuff is so good, why

503
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Speaker 1: are you trying to place him? Like this is what

504
00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,800
Speaker 1: Tyler Glass now credits for, like turning his career around

505
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Speaker 1: back in the day with the race. This is actually

506
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Speaker 1: how I found Lance Prostowski originally. I think I sent

507
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Speaker 1: you this YouTube video he made about the universal basic

508
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Speaker 1: target where they're like, if guys, stuff is good, like

509
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Speaker 1: stop setting up on the edges, stop setting up high

510
00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,399
Speaker 1: and low. Throw your pitch. They're not going to hit

511
00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:39,840
Speaker 1: this pitch if you put it on a corner because

512
00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,080
Speaker 1: you're a little wild. That's an added bonus. But just

513
00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:43,719
Speaker 1: throw it and we don't care where it goes. Use

514
00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:45,400
Speaker 1: that's so funny. I can't wait to talk about high

515
00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:46,679
Speaker 1: school baseball here. You get ready for this.

516
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Speaker 2: That was the thing you do with like kids in

517
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Speaker 2: high school who like through ninety like through ninety plus,

518
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Speaker 2: you're like, stop trying to aim it. Just throw a strike.

519
00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,480
Speaker 2: You're so much better than everybody else with this stuff.

520
00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:57,240
Speaker 2: Do it, And it's funny. To see at the major

521
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Speaker 2: league level. Something that's as simple as that, that can

522
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Speaker 2: be taken from the high school game, can be taken

523
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Speaker 2: from when you're seven eight years old, even be like, hey,

524
00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,840
Speaker 2: same thing, you're better. Just throw the pitch for a strike.

525
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Speaker 2: They will not hit it.

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Speaker 1: Amazing being that much better in the major leagues and

527
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Speaker 1: being guy wasn't even a major league until a few

528
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Speaker 1: months ago.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but he's fully locked this down.

530
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Speaker 1: Save this bullpen. Era is down to two point three

531
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Speaker 1: to five on the year. All the expected stats match.

532
00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,880
Speaker 1: His kmi as walker is almost thirty percent, which I'm

533
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Speaker 1: gonna load it up in a second. Other guys who

534
00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,119
Speaker 1: worth thirty percent of that in season, but that is

535
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Speaker 1: If you're over twenty percent, that's considered quite good. If

536
00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,840
Speaker 1: you're ever thirty percent, you like are considered one of

537
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Speaker 1: the best relief pitchers literally in all of baseball.

538
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Speaker 2: He's got some beef. He should have been on the

539
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Speaker 2: All Star team too. He should have been the All

540
00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:37,720
Speaker 2: Star team too. You're damn right.

541
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Speaker 1: A lot of guys should have been the All Star Team.

542
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Speaker 2: But Jose Glazy's going there the thing, so it's all

543
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Speaker 2: worth it. Who I want to talk about the All

544
00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,239
Speaker 2: star thing real quick because Ken Rosenthal went on his

545
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,280
Speaker 2: show or whatever was talking about how Pete a Lonzo

546
00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,239
Speaker 2: said the only way he was gonna do the home

547
00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,359
Speaker 2: run derby was if he was an All Star, and

548
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,320
Speaker 2: people ran with that as if Pete was like, you

549
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,520
Speaker 2: need to make me an All star like kind of thing,

550
00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,800
Speaker 2: and we know that's definitely the case of like, I'm

551
00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:01,959
Speaker 2: not gonna come fly to Dallas unless I am an

552
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:03,960
Speaker 2: All Star. So people were like, wow, I'm not just

553
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,160
Speaker 2: gonna show up. He's like, oh wow, he really took

554
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:07,920
Speaker 2: a spot from Nimo and Lindor like not a great

555
00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,639
Speaker 2: teammate learning a lot about Pete. I know that there

556
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Speaker 2: was someone in the Mets world that compared Pete's contract

557
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,120
Speaker 2: negotiations to that of Jalen Brunson's and then he promptly

558
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,000
Speaker 2: got absolutely skewered because that was a horrendously bad take

559
00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,399
Speaker 2: to have. But like, again, find a fan base that

560
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,120
Speaker 2: hates their players as much as the Mets. Sometimes it's

561
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 2: kind of crazy, Like, I know Pete's been not clutched

562
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,639
Speaker 2: this year and he only scores when they're up or

563
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,760
Speaker 2: down four whatever it is, But like, man, this guy,

564
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 2: like a year ago, everybody was like he's he's better

565
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:39,640
Speaker 2: than Aaron Judge, or two years ago, like he's better

566
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 2: than Aaron Judge. You're like, okay, let's slow down. Let's

567
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Speaker 2: not say that kind of stuff.

568
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Speaker 1: Two years ago, if we go back two and a

569
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Speaker 1: half months, there were people saying that if he's not

570
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Speaker 1: the Met next season, they would riot in the streets. True, yeah,

571
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Speaker 1: they would, they would die, they would be like that's it.

572
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,639
Speaker 2: I think that's almost fucking with him too. Like I know,

573
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Speaker 2: like we gave the Lindor Standing ovation and from that

574
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,080
Speaker 2: date he's been an MVP. Ended it. I think Pete

575
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,400
Speaker 2: might need a little bit of like encourage, little love.

576
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,640
Speaker 2: He's such a golden retriever. I think the Mets fans

577
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,680
Speaker 2: got to get behind this guy for the last couple

578
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 2: of months that we may ever have him, just because

579
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,040
Speaker 2: he seems to be pressing so so hard and he

580
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,440
Speaker 2: knows that he's not coming up clutch, and yet there

581
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 2: are still Mets fans out there who love to shit

582
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:18,439
Speaker 2: on this guy. And I don't get it.

583
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 1: It comes back to that report that came out in

584
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Speaker 1: May where they were like declined this contract. People were like,

585
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Speaker 1: he doesn't want this much money, this fucking asshole much.

586
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:29,880
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, you don't play baseball for a living,

587
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 2: you have no talent.

588
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 1: You've never been nearly as good as anything as you're

589
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 1: not even as good as walking talking your you think

590
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 1: as Planzo was a baseball Yeah, every single person basically

591
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,159
Speaker 1: listening to podcast unless you're a form professional athlete. But

592
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 1: it's just yeah, maybe maybe we should start that brigade

593
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Speaker 1: coming back to also break the plans are standing ovation?

594
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 1: Why the fuck not right after he wins the home

595
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Speaker 1: run Derby, big standing out and everybody just gets behind

596
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Speaker 1: the guy.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just that simple.

598
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna win Derby. But quick recap of

599
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Speaker 1: the Dadiel Nudiaz seventh highest strike on my as walk

600
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Speaker 1: grave venue reliever in baseball, only behind Mason Miller, Josh Hayter,

601
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 1: Jeremiah stra the h Smith, Matt Stram, and surprised with

602
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,120
Speaker 1: his old friend David robertson what yeah and the whole

603
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 1: list the top seven. Nuniez has the second lowest walk,

604
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Speaker 1: right behind Matt Strom, who was just known as being

605
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 1: a command Artistan.

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Speaker 2: That's so interesting.

607
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 1: I'm with the pil Lonzo Stannu ovation. We should do

608
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Speaker 1: that also again, I just want to wrap up this stuff,

609
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 1: random serious stuff. I Fiano's is so fucking good. He's

610
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 1: a ball player. As of Friday, in forty nine games,

611
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 1: he had twelve homers thirty your rbs in nine to

612
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Speaker 1: twenty two ps.

613
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 2: It's like better than the starting third basement in the

614
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Speaker 2: National League.

615
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 1: Get that me. He's starting to basement the National League

616
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 1: has got a Suddenly he has a new girlfriend. I

617
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 1: think legitimizes him a lot, but yeah, for sure. However,

618
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 1: I just Fiano's is fucking awesome. Like he there's all

619
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Speaker 1: these little tiny things that have happened this year that

620
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 1: turned this Mets team around where it's like these things

621
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Speaker 1: are happening in April. Maybe the team this season have

622
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,439
Speaker 1: never had to turn around, but is a big part

623
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Speaker 1: of that another big one. Shout out Sean and Iya

624
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 1: Sean m and I answered the bell. He's no longer

625
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,640
Speaker 1: a five and diver. He just keep six.

626
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Speaker 2: You've said it, He's just in six and seven.

627
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 1: I told you something that's got He used my Jinxing's

628
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 1: powers for good instead of evil. So he in his

629
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 1: last three starts has gone six to seven, six innings,

630
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 1: six innings and at least three starts, I tweeted the

631
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 1: other day, but I'm sure you didn't see it. The

632
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 1: last time Sean and I went at least six innings

633
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 1: and three consecutive starts is June twenty twenty two.

634
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 2: WHOA, right, that's a huge time ago.

635
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 1: A long time ago. That was I think technically that

636
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 1: was three teams ago for Sean ma and I. He's

637
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 1: still in the department.

638
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 2: No, he was.

639
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,439
Speaker 1: Actually that was twenty twenty two is with the Padres

640
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: and they just ran him into the ground. But yeah,

641
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,640
Speaker 1: that's it. You were a different department. But that's that's amazing.

642
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,360
Speaker 1: And uh he his sweeper still had more depth. He's

643
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 1: now throwing the swerve, the sweeper curve the last couple

644
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,679
Speaker 1: of stars. It was good have five swings and misses.

645
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Speaker 1: And the Rockies don't have enough good players still platoon,

646
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 1: enough lefties and rieties. But it was really good getst

647
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 1: the guys from both sides of plate, so really good

648
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 1: for many who as we look back in this first

649
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 1: half has weirdly kind of been the mess most productive

650
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 1: and reliable. Him A Sevrino, just like Neck and Neck

651
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 1: has the two guys in the one year deals making combined,

652
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: what thirty million dollars have completely studied this rotation. It's amazing.

653
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 1: It's amazing what a modern thinking president can do for

654
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,439
Speaker 1: an organization. One Shuman and I is gonna get us

655
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 1: some players back.

656
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:02,880
Speaker 2: Can't wait.

657
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, people can get pissy.

658
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 2: He was saying that.

659
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 1: But other random ships run around. I mean Edwin also

660
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: again wasn't very good on Friday. It just keeps it

661
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,439
Speaker 1: just kind of keeps happening. It seems like such a

662
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 1: command thing. That arm is just it.

663
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. Behind He got through the first hitters so quickly,

664
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 2: and it almost.

665
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 1: Felt like he was like, this was this was easy,

666
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 1: this was what I got. I gotta make this fucking

667
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 1: hard now. And then he walks fucking Sam Hilly or

668
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 1: the nine hitter never done anything in his whole career,

669
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 1: and the four pitches he steals second, and then Trolie

670
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 1: Blackman wore to walk, and then he strikes as Ego

671
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 1: Tovar on a slider that was right down the fucking middle.

672
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so fast.

673
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,880
Speaker 1: That was just Tovar was like, I mean, they're gonna

674
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 1: look fast or slow for this pitch, and he just

675
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,120
Speaker 1: happened to be looking fast. If he was looking slow.

676
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 1: That pitch was in the upper deck. In the Mets

677
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: lose this game.

678
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, Zekio Tovar had quite the series. Shout out to

679
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 2: me for recognizing the town's me. Shout shout out to

680
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 2: me for recognizing town. At the Arizona Fall League game

681
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 2: back in twenty twenty two two, y.

682
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: Also found Victor Vodnick.

683
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 2: That is where we found Victor Vodnick a lot, a

684
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 2: lot of and Brett Baidy was there too.

685
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: To jibil days. But we also realized that Mark Luciana

686
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 1: might not be a player. But just that Jake Deacon

687
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,919
Speaker 1: still sinks film Aton. I think he's I think he's

688
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 1: gonna be okay. He did not. He just didn't have

689
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: very good thing on Friday, but we haven't had much

690
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 1: better one on Sunday. It's just a lot of weird

691
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: stuff from him. But otherwise, Kantana talking about Kanana briefly,

692
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,239
Speaker 1: just to cover every starting pitcher chuck out a lot

693
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 1: of guys. Eighty said the match the season high. But

694
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 1: he also he had four home runs, first time his

695
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 1: career he's ever done that.

696
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,479
Speaker 2: But still he did get I mean, it was just

697
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 2: so grossly hot out today. The ball was flying.

698
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 1: I'n't even left my apartment to him, excited to not

699
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: not touch air. But yeah, he it was. I don't

700
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: know he's I think he's with his new pitch, mixed changes.

701
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 1: I think he's fully changed who he is, Like leading

702
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 1: with this curve ball, He's throwing it a lot. He

703
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: helng a bad one Atlia on a two zero pitch though,

704
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 1: for his second of the three home runs. But it's

705
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,880
Speaker 1: just he looks. He looks good, kan he looks better

706
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: than I ever thought he was going to look as

707
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: a Met, and he's him throwing that curveball like thirty

708
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 1: forty percent of times and driving for words for it.

709
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 1: So nice to see a tinker, probably pushed by Harrah

710
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 1: Hefner and the Mets coaches, that has worked really really well.

711
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, I mean he's he has looked better

712
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 2: except for today. But man, it's so hard to talk shit.

713
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 2: I'm losing it.

714
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 1: I have some other weird stats I think basically done

715
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: covering the series now will move in some other stuff,

716
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 1: but Michael totally. I want to talk about him briefly

717
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: because he's become one of the strangest hitters in all

718
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: of professional baseball. He hit three home runs on Sunday.

719
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: Amazing to ever see a guy three home runs in

720
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 1: the game. But he's like, he's giving new meaning to

721
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 1: the phrase and all or nothing hither. So he had

722
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 1: three home runs Sunday that gave him six on the

723
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: Rocky seven game road trip. Guess how many hits and

724
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: totally had in this road trip? Uh?

725
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 2: Seven six?

726
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: He had six only home runs, so he he hasn't

727
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: hit a single since, whereas at July seventh, Oh week, God,

728
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: he hasn't hit a double since June seventeenth.

729
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 2: Whoa.

730
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: The three home runs today gave him thirty four hits

731
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: on the season and sixteen homers, so cart again. Yeah,

732
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 1: it took this one directly from the cane, which put

733
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: me on this little rabbit hole. Forty seven percent of

734
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: his hits on the season our home runs.

735
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 2: That's crazy.

736
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: He does have a double since June seventeenth, and he

737
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: has nine homers.

738
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 2: Since then, so a full month ago.

739
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and nine homers without a double.

740
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I mean, very very weird. He's a guy

741
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 2: that I was never a huge fan of because he

742
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,439
Speaker 2: takes a really really slow swing, but he's actually improved

743
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 2: his bat speed numbers a lot on the battracking stuff.

744
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,360
Speaker 2: He's kind of towards the upper upper quartile. I think,

745
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 2: like quarter upper or quarter whatever you call it. But uh,

746
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 2: I don't know. He's weird, just a strange player. And

747
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 2: you totally danks Brenton Doyle with two home runs in

748
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 2: the series. Yeah, I know. I mean, I stand by it.

749
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 2: I don't think he's a good ballplayer outside of Coors,

750
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 2: but he does play a great center field. I'll never

751
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 2: deny that.

752
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: So I think that actually does make him a good

753
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: ball player. So that's that's not true. Him playing as

754
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: good as center field as he does with pop makes

755
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: him a good baseball player.

756
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 2: No, but he doesn't have pop. He has the fakest

757
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 2: pop ever. But he hits the ball hard like consistently. No,

758
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 2: he doesn't. He does. Think he has a good barrel ray,

759
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 2: I think he has all that stuff pretty good. No, No, No,

760
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 2: he's he's a hard hit rate low hard hit rate

761
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 2: guy average hundred ninety one ten and he doesn't hit

762
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 2: the ball more. He's the seventy fifth percentilen Bower rate.

763
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: So I think I think you're wrong. Well, because he

764
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: plays some fucking Coors. Yeah, I don't think I thanks

765
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,479
Speaker 1: your bower rate that much. Last year when he was horrible,

766
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: he was over fifty percent bower right, So he does

767
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: have power, he just does not consistent hither.

768
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 2: No, he doesn't. He doesn't hit the ball consistently.

769
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: Well yeah, okay, and then so I think now we'll

770
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: we'll take a little break. But first we're gonna come

771
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: back at you guys later with the rest of the episode.

772
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: But first mark draft guy, take a swallow, try and

773
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: breathe get your talking out. Draft starts in about than

774
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: hours are recording this. Who do you want the Mets

775
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: to take?

776
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 2: I want the Mets to take Jack hagleon, but he

777
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 2: will not be there. That's not real Well, that's what

778
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 2: I wanted him to take. You asked me who I

779
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 2: want out of the guys that are realistic. It's pretty

780
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 2: much between Brody Brett, Brody Bret, that's a hard name

781
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 2: to say, van Toni Cutt and Carson Benge or Ben.

782
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: You who are these guys? Where they go to school

783
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: and position do they play?

784
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 2: So Carson Ben Jumping a calumn for now outfielder from

785
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State. Cannon of an arm, left handed swing. He's

786
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 2: a junior just really good all round player. Brody Bret

787
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 2: went to Iowa. He's one of these like big big

788
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 2: pitching arms, can sit in the high nineties even top

789
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 2: out at one to one with his fastball. This year,

790
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 2: he's got probably some of the sneaky best stuff in

791
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 2: the draft. It's just he's kind of raws a pitcher,

792
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 2: which I'd love for the Mets to get their pitching

793
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,719
Speaker 2: lab all over him. But also maybe we don't because

794
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 2: we're so good at developing pitching, we don't need to

795
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 2: take a first round draft pick for a pitcher. The

796
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 2: only problem is the Atlanta Braves will one hundred percent

797
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 2: take him, and it will be hurs of waldrip Ball

798
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 2: over again, and that's gonna give me nightmares.

799
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, HER's and Waldroft might also not that be that

800
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: good right now? He doesn't have a fast ball. Yeah no, sure,

801
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: like the Braves are. I think that's that's a difference

802
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: in team philosophy where we've heard some things from people

803
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: in the industry about the Braves that there may not

804
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 1: be as good as developing players anymore as they once worse.

805
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: That's why they really like taking players that seem like

806
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: they're at least somewhat close to finished products, especially pitchers.

807
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: If you look at this Braves pitching staff three is

808
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 1: really the only developmental success story. He's just He's just Sreabe,

809
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: a pitcher who picked up a lot of breaking balls

810
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: over his time running up. But they just keep trying

811
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,239
Speaker 1: to get these just college players I read, and then

812
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: they keep making these fucking trades everybody keeps making with

813
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: them to supply their team with talent. But I see

814
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: a lot of people mock Fance Honeycut to the Mets.

815
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: Do you like Honeycut?

816
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 2: I do? Because he has big power. He's a good athlete,

817
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 2: has a good arm, good fielder. He just sometimes lacks

818
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 2: the bear that bat to ball skills that can give

819
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 2: you a little worry with like swinging miss stuff. But

820
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 2: the power is legit. He is a good outfielder, probably

821
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 2: gonna play center field like he seems like a future

822
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 2: center fielder. I really like him. I think he's really good.

823
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 2: I think if he's there, I hope the Mets do

824
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,959
Speaker 2: take him. Another name that has been mocked a lot,

825
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 2: Slade Caldwell, who is a smaller outfielder out of Arkansas

826
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 2: in high school. He's five nine one two. You know

827
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 2: the Mets have been kind of hot with like the

828
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 2: smaller players recently, but I don't know. Van Tooni cuts there.

829
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 2: I feel like that's got to be the pick. Some

830
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 2: other fun names around there. Durangelo, I can't pronounce his

831
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 2: last name yet, switch Pitcher, which is she right?

832
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: Yeah?

833
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 2: She empty or something like that. I don't know. It's

834
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 2: it's crazy, it's it's Dutch. And he's pretty cool because

835
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 2: he switched pitcher. There's also Theo Gillan, who is a

836
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 2: really really athletic shortstop from a high school in Texas.

837
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 2: And then Cash Mayfe is someone who I doubt the

838
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 2: Mets pick, but I hope they would left handed pitcher.

839
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 2: Awesome name, nineteen years old, six or four, two hundred

840
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 2: and six, mid nineties. So those are kind of the

841
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 2: names we'll look out for. We will see, We will

842
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,479
Speaker 2: see when we come back as to who the Mets get,

843
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 2: and hopefully I'll be able to talk more.

844
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just gonna call my shot right now, someone

845
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: who I can see the Mets like it in like

846
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: second or third round. Very preliminary research. Got this name

847
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: from my guy, Jacob b Stl. I think he's also

848
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: Cardinals Ricons weather. Okay, great account for baseball an lytics.

849
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: Tyson Neighbors from Kansas State Interest got twenty three inches

850
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: of IVB on his fastball in ninety seven miles an

851
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: hour and eighty seven mile an hour curveball with a

852
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: fuck time to drop. It looks really good. That seems

853
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: like the kind of day of the driven profile this

854
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: new Mets regen loves to take as like a second

855
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: third round college pitcher.

856
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 2: Tyson Neighbors also has a sixty grade curveball and seventy

857
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 2: grade slider according to MLB pipeline. So that's I mean,

858
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 2: that's interesting stuff, all right, said Neighbors. Reminds the Scouts

859
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 2: of Craig Kimbrel. Okay, well, I'll take that and let's

860
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 2: try to make it. Let's make let's make Krek Kimberl

861
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 2: start there. Yeah, I'm in Let's do it. All right, guys,

862
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 2: we'll catch you once the draft is over and I

863
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 2: hopefully can talk more. So, oh yeah, see you a

864
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 2: few three hours, Laytel. All right, So miraculously, in the

865
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 2: two hours that have passed since the MLB Draft, I'm

866
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 2: feeling a lot better. You can probably hear it in

867
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 2: my voice. James noticed, it instantly when we were talking

868
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 2: before the recording. Let's go ahead and talk about the

869
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 2: MLB draft, though. The Mets have made their picks for

870
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,479
Speaker 2: Day one in the first round with the nineteenth overall

871
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 2: pick that went Carson Bene out of Oklahoma State and outfielder,

872
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 2: and in the second round they went with Johnson Santucci

873
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 2: out of Duke University, left handed pitcher. James. Let's hear

874
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 2: your thoughts initially, and then I could give you what

875
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 2: I know about these guys.

876
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: Okay, my thoughts. Initially, I'm I'm a very reactive draft

877
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: draft scout, so like I started learning about these guys

878
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: like like the week before the draft. I listen to

879
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: what you tell me, and then I take the people

880
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: who have good data on college players. Benj to me,

881
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: just looks like an athlete, a guy who can hit,

882
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: which I like. And he looks like you've been talking

883
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: about his hands a lot. He just looks like to me,

884
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: a ballplayer. I got some good data from my guy,

885
00:33:56,160 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: Jacob E. Stl basically hits the ball really hard, is

886
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: pretty passive in the zone, but when he swings, he

887
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: makes tons of contact. He doesn't pull it as often

888
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: as it probably liked you, but he played well against velocity.

889
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Bene, his hands are wildly fast. I mean,

890
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 2: if you watch any highlights of this guy, you're gonna

891
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 2: see just rips through the zone, which is something I like.

892
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 2: You want someone who swings the bad hard rather than

893
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,240
Speaker 2: swinging the bats soft. Again, think of the difference between

894
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 2: Ellie de la Cruz and Jeff McNeil. Those are kind

895
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 2: of the differences right there, of like, swing the bad hard,

896
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 2: swing the batsoft. I'm not saying Carson Bench's gonna be there,

897
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 2: but that's just the idea of you want guys who

898
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 2: swing the bad hard. So his bat speed's incredible, But yes,

899
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 2: there is some concern with his ability to pull the

900
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 2: ball in the air. And I know when we were

901
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 2: talking off camera, you were a little bit concerned that

902
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 2: that's like our boy Brett Batty, who has had issues

903
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 2: pulling the ball in the air. And Brett Batty does

904
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,720
Speaker 2: have pretty good batspeed. I don't Again, we can't compare

905
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 2: what Carson Bene's batspeed is Brett Beaty's. We just don't

906
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 2: have those numbers right now. But I think Benj's batspeed

907
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 2: might even still be better than what we see from

908
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,919
Speaker 2: Brett Baty, and it also feels really mental with Brett

909
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 2: Batty right now, like you're trying to change the hitter

910
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 2: that he is. The thing that I like about Benj

911
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 2: the most is just the fact that he has some

912
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 2: of the ooh, I just knocked something down. He has

913
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 2: some of the best bats to ball skills along with

914
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 2: exit velos in the entire class. And being able to

915
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 2: get that at the eighteenth, nineteenth, nineteenth overall pick to

916
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 2: me feels like really good value. Of course, Van Towny

917
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 2: Cutt was there, people wanted him. There were other outfield

918
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 2: prospects that the Mets were tied to that were still available,

919
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 2: but Benju was one of the guys that I was

920
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 2: happy with if they got that spot. Based on everything

921
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 2: that I've seen at Oklahoma State, he was great. Eighteen homers,

922
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 2: twenty four double sixty four RBIs last season, forty nine

923
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 2: walks to fifty one strikeouts, eleven hundred ops. Again, take

924
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 2: college stats with a great assault. Sometimes they're a little

925
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 2: inflated depending on where you play, who you play against.

926
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 2: But he's a big time player. He's a legit dude.

927
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 2: Played in a big conference, one of the stronger conferences

928
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 2: in college baseball. I don't know what the ceiling is

929
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 2: like a guy on Carson Benje That's the one thing

930
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 2: I'll say, I don't know what he projects to be.

931
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 2: But the player comp they were throwing around is Nick Markkkas,

932
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 2: And I'm not gonna lie. Nick mark Kakos would be

933
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 2: a pretty nice player to have for a long time

934
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 2: in your organize.

935
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, Marquesas was a funny com too, because then they

936
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: started talking about Benj's best qualities for how hard he

937
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: hits the ball, and that was the one thing that

938
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: Marquez didn't do well. Yeah, and uh, this is the

939
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: only thing that's weird to me, is like people is

940
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: like all around player, but I was like, all right,

941
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 1: but he is a he's a corner roule fielder in college.

942
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: So like if he doesn't even have any potential in

943
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: center field, that changes ceiling a little bit, puts a

944
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: lot more pressure on the bat. But he is a

945
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: lefty bat, which is good.

946
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 2: I'll say this too, though, I think sometimes we get

947
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 2: too caught up on a guy not being able to

948
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 2: play center field, because like, at the end of the day,

949
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 2: you just want a good baseball player, right where if

950
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 2: the best players in the league been playing the last

951
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 2: few years, it's been right field. Aaron Judge is a

952
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 2: right fielder. I don't give a shit. Rond Coon, is

953
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 2: you in the right fielder Mookie Betts, You're gonna you say,

954
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 2: Mookie Bets can't play center field, he's a right fielder.

955
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: Like you're you're naming three guys who've all played other

956
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: positions at the major league level.

957
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 2: You didn't name one guy who's only played right field.

958
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 2: Kunya was terrible in center field. So I'm like, I

959
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 2: think I think we we sometimes get a little bit

960
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 2: too caught up on the fact like, oh, he's not

961
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 2: really a center fielder. If he's what if he's a

962
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 2: premier right fielder. No, totally.

963
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,040
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not saying in terms of like if this

964
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 1: guy's major league baseball player, this is how good he is.

965
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: I'm saying just like in terms of a prospect, Like

966
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 1: it's harder to be more well regarded prospect, not even

967
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: in terms of like how well you are you a

968
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: fit on my team, but how well you're fitting in

969
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 1: with like different sets of rankings and basically how many

970
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: paths you have to get to the majors. Like you

971
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: don't promote an outfield prospect because he's a tremendous defender

972
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: and right field of course well, and he also bench does.

973
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: But the last time someone over exaggerated how important corner

974
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 1: afield defense was, it was the Cubs with Jason Hayward,

975
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,479
Speaker 1: and the immediately regret, like this is a stupid idea

976
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: of Like, so just Fro'm saying a lot is on

977
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 1: as bad and there's something that does really well. It's

978
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: a couple of tiny things that we'll see if he changes.

979
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 1: I'm interested to see where the Mets put him because

980
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: I think they have a chance to be aggressive with

981
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: him because he's an advanced college header from a big conference.

982
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 2: Like if he is in Brooklyn by the end of

983
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 2: the year, I think that'd be fun. Man, it sucks

984
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 2: that he's gonna be a lefty in Brooklyn to start too,

985
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 2: Like what a way to start your minor league career. Hey, dude,

986
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 2: hit into the water. Oh you're from Oklahoma. Yeah, how

987
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 2: about Brooklyn, dude?

988
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, two other things about bench because we're talking about baseball.

989
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: It'll have some fun. Now. He said he's never been

990
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: to New York ever.

991
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 2: I mean that checks. He's from He's literally born in

992
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 2: Oklahoma City, went to school in Yukon, Oklahoma, and goes

993
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 2: to school at Oklahoma State and Stillwater, I mean talk

994
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 2: about the sticks.

995
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 1: And something else fun him and Mets draft pick last year,

996
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 1: Cowboy ol Towani Nolan MacLean fantastic friends. They were roommates

997
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: on the road of Oklahoma State and they said they've

998
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: been talking literally all day since this pick happens. So

999
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: it's kind of cool that the Mets are have reunited

1000
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: friends in the system for like the third time in

1001
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: the last year.

1002
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 2: They still game all the time together. Nolan Maclean's like, yeah,

1003
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 2: I'll call up Carson. We'll be like, yo, you want

1004
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 2: to fire up some Rocket League and we'll just crush this.

1005
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 2: I was like, it's kind of sick. I love that.

1006
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 2: Like it's so funny too that we're now in the

1007
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 2: age of like all these kids grew up with video

1008
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 2: games like that was very much a part of their

1009
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 2: growing up in their culture. So to like see these

1010
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 2: guys with well, yeah, it is a part of their culture,

1011
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 2: video game culture. Come on, just because you aren't a

1012
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 2: good gamer, you know, that doesn't mean you had to

1013
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 2: slander the great ones out there.

1014
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: You got my moments just not I can't do the

1015
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: first person game. But now just I said, these guys

1016
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: are gonna be friends, would be the same system as

1017
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: a chance that Also, the Carson bench was all also

1018
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: a two way player. He's not going to pitch in

1019
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:02,439
Speaker 1: the level.

1020
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 2: He was more like a no.

1021
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 1: He was like a kitchen sing kind of pitcher in college,

1022
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 1: which is like, it's probably not worth the time.

1023
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 2: I mean, he threw ninety six.

1024
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: But he also he accidentally, i think, revealed on the

1025
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: draft coverage that Nolan McLean has stopped hitting.

1026
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 2: You get that, Yeah, that was sneaky. And then they

1027
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 2: they officially announced that Nolan McLean is no longer hitting anymore,

1028
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 2: which it was like, all right, we got the hitter.

1029
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 2: Now we got Carson Benache.

1030
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 1: That's what it is him to get its a good

1031
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: baseball player. But it's it's just it's funny. PR's got

1032
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:30,399
Speaker 1: something else to worry about.

1033
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, how they left that one slip? There's they're

1034
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 2: so sharp.

1035
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: But next pick, also we have this one. I think

1036
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: both weirdly a little bit more excited about Paisan Jonathan

1037
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:46,720
Speaker 1: Santucci prep boy out in Massachusetts, duke left handed pitcher.

1038
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: I think this is a really fun pick, and this

1039
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: is the exact kind of draft pick. I think that

1040
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: since the Mets have modernized in the last few years.

1041
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: I know this is the first draft of David Stearns,

1042
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 1: but this is I think the third draft for the

1043
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: Mets were basically using you know, modern scouting and player

1044
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: development techniques as part of their process. Is this just

1045
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: screams upside to me. Definitely like a low floor with

1046
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: a very very very high ceiling. And it feels a

1047
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: lot like while it's a different archaetype of player, a

1048
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 1: lot like two years ago where the Mets take play

1049
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: ted Well in the second round and last year with

1050
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 1: the Mets take Brandon Sprout in the second round.

1051
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he has super high upside. That's what

1052
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 2: they kept mentioning on the broadcast was high upside pick,

1053
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 2: high upside pick, high upside pick. The fact that he's

1054
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 2: a left handed pitcher who can throw in the mid

1055
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,439
Speaker 2: nineties is really good. Apparently that slider, right, I believe

1056
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 2: that's the second pitch that he has is also like

1057
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 2: a pitch that they see as plus and the change up,

1058
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 2: they said, is a good third weapon. So as long

1059
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 2: as they can keep building on this. This is a

1060
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 2: guy who could be very, very good in the future

1061
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 2: for the New York Mets, someone with high upside. I

1062
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 2: love that. I love hearing when the Mets are drafting

1063
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 2: guys with upside because it feels like, for so so long,

1064
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 2: this organization had a theory of like floor, we want

1065
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 2: floor guys, and I think there's times and spots where

1066
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 2: that makes sense. But second round, fuck it. Take a

1067
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 2: guy with high upside. Try to hit a home run.

1068
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 1: That's what this draft feels like. His bench seems like

1069
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 1: a little bit more of a floor guy, where Santucci

1070
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: definitely feels like more of a ceiling guy. And just

1071
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: I got pretty deep bus Santucci in the last few

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00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 1: hours when I was waiting for you to finish the

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00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: stream and do this. He he's battle injuries the last

1074
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 1: few years. He had a rip thing which wasn't serious.

1075
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: And you said last year he had.

1076
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 2: A he had something bone chips removed from his elbows.

1077
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 2: We had surgery there which cut his season short a

1078
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 2: little bit.

1079
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's had command issues a lot in college.

1080
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 1: Walks for nine were like four or five six the

1081
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 1: last couple of years. But this stuff is really insane.

1082
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 1: You guys also saw friend of the program recurring guests

1083
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 1: in the podcast Lance Brastowski. He was on draft coverage

1084
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 1: with the almb netwhere him and Charles collazolam Baseball America. Yeah,

1085
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: it's amazing having like real analysts out there. How how

1086
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: good at this?

1087
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 2: Because he told me he didn't love hearing Dan O'Dowd

1088
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 2: say nothing that may and anything.

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00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: No, it's also cool because those two their things are

1090
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: hitting and pitching, so they're like all sitting between who

1091
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: was picked and like who was talking, which I thought

1092
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,879
Speaker 1: was really fun. But Lance was saying how interesting Santucci's

1093
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: fastball is from this from a low release point with

1094
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: a lot of carrying and run on his fastball up

1095
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: ninety six miles an hour and a two plane slider

1096
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: that again from his arm slot over here. With that

1097
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: low release point, it just ducks away from the lefties

1098
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 1: and it has a lot of good depth to really

1099
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: get behind a righty. So that's a nice pitch and

1100
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 1: in the fact that he is a lefty, the change

1101
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 1: up is going to play really importantly at the next

1102
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 1: level as he keeps getting better, and they both like

1103
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: the movement of that pitch. Apparently Santucci has trouble commanding

1104
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: that pitch, but that's something that I think we're just

1105
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: confident in the Mets pitching lad can figure out this

1106
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: point and maybe they also see what that arm slot.

1107
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: They can see a curveball out that they can see

1108
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: color out of that. When I was watching him pitch,

1109
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: this is fucked up to say, but I saw. I

1110
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 1: saw col Reagan's the way he releases the ball, the

1111
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 1: way his fastball moves, the way that slider works. Cole

1112
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: Reagan's has done really well to get past this point

1113
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: where one he has two time of John surgeries. Now

1114
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: he throws harder, but after that he developed the curve ball,

1115
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 1: and he made this change up completely fucking lethal. So

1116
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 1: that's again long way away, but just seeing the body,

1117
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: seeing the frame and seeing how much Carrie comes on

1118
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: a lefty like three quarters slot, low release fastball, that's

1119
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,240
Speaker 1: what immediately went in my mind. And that's again upside

1120
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: downside because even just the package that says there's always

1121
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: gonna be relieve a risk, kind of lucky that can't

1122
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 1: throw strikes, who's already had some elbow issues, but a

1123
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:08,919
Speaker 1: lot of fun here. He's gonna go to the pitching

1124
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: lab the rest of the winter and next year we'll

1125
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 1: see what we got.

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00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, on the draft they put up I wish I

1127
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 2: took a screenshot of this, but they put up a graphic.

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00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 2: They were like, he's kind of Hagen Smith light who

1129
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 2: he just saw go number five overall, a guy who

1130
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 2: strikes out everybody in the world. I think he ran

1131
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 2: a thirty five percent k rate last year at Duke

1132
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 2: and what like fourteen percent, but like, and the strike

1133
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 2: zone percentage was pretty low, kind of like Hagen Smith.

1134
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 2: But again, people still just chase and they did put

1135
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 2: a lot of value in the fact that he played

1136
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 2: in the ACC. They were like, the SEC and the

1137
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 2: ACC are the two clear best conferences in college baseball.

1138
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 2: It's not even close. So to be able to dice

1139
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 2: guys up in either conference like he's like he showed

1140
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 2: last year at Duke. That means something, like you said,

1141
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 2: the Met's pitching lab. Get him in there, let's see

1142
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 2: what it does. We've had guys before that had some

1143
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 2: command issues, some control issues, and we have been able

1144
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 2: to at least help those problems. Hopefully Santo joins them

1145
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 2: and we can be talking about this guy maybe in

1146
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 2: sept is like a whoa, look at this little dude.

1147
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 2: We found Jonathan Santucci a good paison from Duke.

1148
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: I think big dude.

1149
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 2: Actually he's a big boy.

1150
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 1: But just nice to see Nicee again, like this thirty

1151
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: in a row. We've been doing this, we've been covering

1152
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: the mess, we've been doing watching them draft and it's like,

1153
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: nice this is good modern process. They're using what whoa?

1154
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 2: Okay, so he went to the same high school as

1155
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 2: Thomas White, who is the Marlins first round pick last year. Yeah.

1156
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:27,879
Speaker 2: Boston guys, Yeah, Boston guys out and over a mess Massachusetts,

1157
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 2: which is pretty interesting. I do have one former pro

1158
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:34,760
Speaker 2: this guy named Johnny Baraca, which played in a nineteen

1159
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 2: thirty four. He won a World Series with the Yankees in.

1160
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 1: Nineteen thirty four.

1161
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the that's the only major league player ever

1162
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 2: from that high school, Johnny Baraca.

1163
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: I'll say this, the high school should be named after him,

1164
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: Johnny Broaca Academy. If you go, if you if anybody

1165
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: wins a World Series, they should get high school named

1166
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: after them.

1167
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,919
Speaker 2: On Judy, he had one point a war for his career.

1168
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 2: That's pretty good. It's really good.

1169
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:56,720
Speaker 1: You get over one war for your career. You should

1170
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: get the county named after you. That's awesome. But yeah,

1171
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: I like the draft for see with the mess to

1172
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: the next couple days and just nice to see them

1173
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: get a couple of college you guys, because I think

1174
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: this team is the pitching. I think development is really

1175
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 1: ready to hang. Development is still yet to be seen,

1176
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 1: but a couple of guys who should be able to

1177
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: move quickly if things go well.

1178
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 2: Just a little funny note. I don't know if any

1179
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 2: of you guys were watching the draft, but someone we mentioned,

1180
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 2: Brody Bret was an arm that we were kind of

1181
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 2: interested in just because he has really good stuff and

1182
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 2: it was funny. They mentioned on the broadcast that they

1183
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 2: felt like Brody Brecked was Paul Skeen's light and that

1184
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 2: got people like freaking out, Oh, relax, so he's going

1185
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 2: in the second round. How can he be like that?

1186
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 2: And the guys like he throws ninety nine with a

1187
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 2: nasty slider, Like, just hear me out. I'm not saying

1188
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 2: he's Paul Skeens, but he's pretty dang good. And then

1189
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 2: he got drafted by the Rockies and it was genuinely

1190
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 2: one of the funniest things I've ever seen me. I

1191
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 2: feel bad for the guy. He's in pitching purgatory right

1192
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 2: now with Chase Doland are two of the most talented

1193
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 2: pitcher prospects in the last couple of years. But he

1194
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 2: like he was like, ah, man, Like I got drafted

1195
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 2: and he like hugged his mom and his girlfriend. And

1196
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 2: it wasn't like one of those moments where like you

1197
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 2: see them like get like emotional and they're like yes.

1198
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 2: It looked like he was kind of like one of

1199
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:01,280
Speaker 2: those of like, man, all right, I guess I'm a Rocky.

1200
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 2: Like that kind of sucks.

1201
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 1: I mean, the moment of that that like sticks with

1202
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: me the most. But I think getting drafted to the

1203
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: Rocky is a picture in baseball is unique to sports

1204
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: because it's just like there's the It doesn't have to

1205
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: do with the people there. He just there's no way out.

1206
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: But I remember vividly, probably like eight or nine years

1207
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: ago now, when Zach Lavine got drafted to the Minnesota Timberwolves.

1208
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 2: Yes and ESPN caught on camera he went fuck right

1209
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 2: when they called his name.

1210
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: Point guards going to die in Minnesota not anymore Rob

1211
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: Rob Dillingham's supremacy where You've had a great summer league

1212
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: so far. I think fourteen the forest is to turnover ratio.

1213
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: But nice back to baseball, quick little run around here,

1214
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: some more weekend stuff, some more All Star week stuff. Uh,

1215
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,479
Speaker 1: Brandon Sproke s broke out a pitch a great inning

1216
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: in the Futures Game. Nice to have our Mets representatives

1217
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: there look really good in the process. He had a

1218
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: perfect inning, not really a perfect ending. Just you phase

1219
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: three batters because Aiden Miller Phillies a Philly's a sleeper

1220
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: self makes an error behind him. But then you know

1221
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 1: what he does, brandspron He gets Samuel Bissio, maybe the

1222
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: best hitler in the Futures Game, to grind into a

1223
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 1: very nice ending ending double play. Also, he threw a

1224
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: ninety nine mile on era of fastball that Cole Young

1225
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: really tiled to shortstop prospect on the Mariners. It saw

1226
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: them off so bad that they were doing an in

1227
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: game interview with Michael Young for some reason the Futures

1228
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 1: Game they did the whole game in split screen just

1229
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 1: to talk to like Michael Young and Adrian Beltray, which

1230
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: was so fucking stupid. Not only did MLB have the

1231
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 1: Futures Game at the same time as eight Major League

1232
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 1: Baseball games in the middle of a Saturday in July

1233
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: to guarantee nobody would watch it. And they didn't even

1234
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: show them the full screen. So thank you MOLB for

1235
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: not showing the Futures Game of television. But why would

1236
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 1: you want to watch the Futures Game?

1237
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 2: Of course, I can't even imagine why anybody would be

1238
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 2: interested in prospects. Spring Breakout wasn't a success in in

1239
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 2: games that don't matter. I wouldn't want to watch any

1240
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 2: of the top prospects in baseball play ever.

1241
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 1: No, but spread through an inside fastball to Cole Young

1242
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 1: and it saw them off so bad that Michael Young

1243
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: and the interview went, oh god, yeah, live on television,

1244
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: and just the ball went straight up in the air.

1245
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: But I had a tweet baseball guy, huge baseball guy,

1246
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: hid in beltraye, legendary baseball guys. But I tweets something

1247
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 1: I said. I've said this podcast set to Mark all

1248
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: the time, where I was like, I just hate that

1249
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: they hide the Futures Game like this. I've been saying

1250
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: it for years. They should make the Futures Game Sunday

1251
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 1: Night Baseball to kick off All Star Week. I know

1252
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 1: the draft is great the way they do it, but

1253
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 1: like i'd be down for the draft to be I

1254
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: don't know, a different night, or maybe just start after

1255
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 1: the Futures Game.

1256
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 2: I think the draft should be after the All Star Game.

1257
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 2: I think it should be the last event.

1258
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: So maybe the draft is Wednesday because there's still no

1259
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: sports on it, and you know what else, there's no

1260
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 1: sports on Thursday, so night one, night two would be great.

1261
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 1: And do you know what else, these guys aren't in

1262
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:31,879
Speaker 1: the majors. You can just have your playing the next

1263
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 1: day if you really wanted to play. It doesn't matter.

1264
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 2: No one's losing sleep over being like a man. Who'd

1265
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 2: they taking the eighteenth round? I missed that one.

1266
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 1: No ayeah, that's that's just my grand idea. But my

1267
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: idea got stomped, face kicked in because, for the second

1268
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: time now in five six weeks, I was retweeted by

1269
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: none other than fucking Frank the Tank and I go

1270
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: have having identity, christ this is a good idea. There's

1271
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 1: something I've been holding on to for a while. I

1272
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 1: woke up and I was like, why am I getting

1273
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: tagged in these tweets with this fucking imbecile them like, oh,

1274
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 1: you gotta be fucking kidding me.

1275
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's a tough look.

1276
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 1: Yeah whatever. I don't know why MLB chooses not to

1277
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: broadcast the future's game, but in the future I think

1278
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 1: they probably should.

1279
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 2: Yes, I agree, I think that'd be a good decision.

1280
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,879
Speaker 2: Even if Frank the Tank retweets and degrees shit doesn't matter.

1281
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 2: Fucking move on all right, Home Run Derby new rules?

1282
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 2: You don't know them? You want me to tell you, James, Yeah,

1283
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 2: I purposefully haven't learned the new rules, so you could

1284
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 2: tell me and the listeners at the same time before

1285
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 2: the Hormer Derby tonight. Okay, bracket style gotten to start,

1286
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 2: all eight people are competing against each other. The top

1287
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,240
Speaker 2: four scores will be taken, and then they will compete

1288
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 2: in a bracket one v one against each other. So

1289
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,959
Speaker 2: there's a maximum amount of pitches that can be thrown

1290
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 2: to a competitor in each round. The first round and

1291
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 2: semi final will end after three minutes or forty pitches.

1292
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 2: You get one time out. The finals then consist of

1293
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 2: either two minutes or twenty seven pitches with a timeout permitted,

1294
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 2: so it is still a timed mode, but you know how,

1295
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 2: like you were kind of rushing to just get pitches out,

1296
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 2: and there was like no real way to actually determine

1297
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 2: whether they're not when you can and can't throw, and

1298
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 2: sometimes they like guys go before the other. Now you

1299
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 2: can rush as much as you want, but it's forty pitches,

1300
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 2: so there's kind of no real reason to go through

1301
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 2: them faster than anybody needs to. At the conclusion of

1302
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 2: all rounds, competitors will be granted three bonus outs as

1303
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 2: opposed to thirty seconds. So if you hit a four

1304
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty foot four hundred and twenty five foot

1305
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 2: home run, you also get a fourth bonus out. So

1306
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 2: then in the bonus round it's old home run derby format,

1307
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 2: you could hit thirty five home runs in the bonus

1308
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 2: before you get your three outs. There's no timing, there's nothing.

1309
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 2: I think that's a really cool way to do it

1310
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 2: and bring back like a little bit of the old

1311
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 2: school stuff and also bring some like drama, because there

1312
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 2: was nothing better than when Chris Burma was ripping back back, back, back,

1313
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 2: way back God and the Josh Hamilton home run derby.

1314
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 2: I mean that was incredible. Is he gonna come back

1315
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 2: and do it, and now's the derby. Now I hope so, man,

1316
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 2: I don't know. I actually really haven't looked into it,

1317
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 2: but I really hope that he does. That'd be great. Also,

1318
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 2: if there is a tie, sixty seconds swing.

1319
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 1: Off, okay, nice. I like these rules because I feel

1320
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 1: like the last few derbies, while it was like hot

1321
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 1: and exciting, I felt like always the first hour was

1322
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 1: way more exciting than the last hour because the Yeah,

1323
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 1: because these guys would just get really really tired because

1324
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 1: you're swinging as fast as you can. And now also

1325
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 1: that we have all this new data on batsby stuff

1326
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,240
Speaker 1: we learned, Like I feel like, if you keep swinging,

1327
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: you get really tired, it's not gonna be's easy to

1328
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 1: swing later on, Like I'd rather the most fun be

1329
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: at the end in the beginning. And also, yeah, the

1330
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 1: old the fun but in the glory of the Homer

1331
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: derby was watching the ball go really far, not wow,

1332
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: look how many home runs he's hitting in this amount

1333
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 1: of time. It was like, oh, that one's great. Wow,

1334
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: I can't wait to watch the next one, Like that's

1335
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 1: the joy. So now, yeah, I'm happy we can watch

1336
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:37,839
Speaker 1: home runs.

1337
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 2: We did run into the awkwardness of the home Run Derby,

1338
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 2: like what the NBA Dunk Contest has now, where it's

1339
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 2: like it's just going on for too long and at

1340
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 2: the end of the day, like I just can't watch

1341
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 2: you take pitches because you're waiting for the perfect one.

1342
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 2: So it still gives you that timed aspect with the

1343
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 2: ability to appreciate them. In the bonus round, which I like.

1344
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 2: In terms of odds to win the Home Run Derby,

1345
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 2: Pedalonzo is the favorite at plus three hundred. Who do

1346
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 2: you like James Juanmie out the odds to you?

1347
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, tell me, I kind of I have a weird,

1348
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: horrible inclination for some reason to like hose Arameriz, just

1349
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 1: because I think that he is just that kind of

1350
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: guy who, like you would never think he went to

1351
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: Home run Derby, but he's just like, of course I

1352
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 1: can win to Homer Derby, Like I ain't better at everybody.

1353
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 2: Okay, So I've got Pete at plus three hundred, Ado

1354
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 2: Lease at plus four twenty five, the wife Peter Marcelo

1355
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 2: Zuna at four fifty, Gunner Henderson five hundred, Bobby Witt

1356
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 2: seven hundred, Tay Oscar one thousand, Hose Aramras thirteen hundred,

1357
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 2: Alcbohm fifteen hundred. It'll be shocking if Alcboum hits more

1358
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 2: than five.

1359
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,439
Speaker 1: I also Bobby Witt won the high school home run Derby.

1360
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 2: Well that's where my pick was going. I originally picked

1361
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 2: out the lease, and then I saw Bobby Witt won

1362
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 2: the high school home run Derby, and he said, and

1363
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 2: he's back home in Texas. He's a Dallas boy. I

1364
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 2: love a good story, and it's between Bobby Wit and

1365
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 2: Adolise for me. But I'll go Bobby Wit because better odds.

1366
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:50,359
Speaker 2: Let's win some money.

1367
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'm probably gonna bet on both Bobby

1368
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:54,760
Speaker 1: Wit and jose Ara Miris.

1369
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 2: I will say, sneaky the Oscar Hernandez a little bit

1370
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 2: of a sneaky pick. I think I think he's getting

1371
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 2: no respect at plus thousand. This is a guy who's

1372
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 2: got serious power, Like his power is different than Jay

1373
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 2: Raymond Alec Bowm. He's way too close to them totally.

1374
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: And we we love Pi Alonzo, but I just I

1375
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 1: just can't see him winning. I think he's gonna take

1376
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: it too seriously again and just get nervous.

1377
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 2: I hope he wins. I'd love for Pete to win again.

1378
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 2: We're we're trying to push We're trying to push the

1379
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 2: positive Pete agenda over here on the Messed Up Podcast.

1380
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 2: But pp A, the PPA, the PPA positive Pete agenda.

1381
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 2: But man, I don't know. I don't know what I

1382
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 2: want from Pete there. Just I want him feeling good.

1383
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 2: That's all I want from Pete. I want to be

1384
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:29,320
Speaker 2: happy again.

1385
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: Me too, which is why I almost thought that this

1386
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 1: would have been nice week for pe Lonzo to clear

1387
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 1: his head rather than be like I am going to

1388
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 1: the home runs they.

1389
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 2: I think he needs this. I think he needs this.

1390
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 1: I don't know, he just needs his time off. Dude,

1391
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,399
Speaker 1: I don't know what he needs. But yeah, whatever he needs,

1392
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 1: I just I just hope he gets you know what,

1393
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 1: Just go there and enjoy yourself. It's just sucks that

1394
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:47,959
Speaker 1: the home run derby. One of the best parts about

1395
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 1: it is like your teammates, get your anthourage around you.

1396
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: Pete's got no teammates there right now. I know nobody

1397
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: You're put Luisa Riya said to that he's not playing

1398
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 1: the All Star Game officially. You know what, he jammed

1399
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 1: his thumb.

1400
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,320
Speaker 2: Respect respect him for stepping out because he did not

1401
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 2: deserve to be there, Lay should have been there.

1402
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 1: Well, you actually he will be there, So that's something

1403
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 1: for Pete. Look forward, you're gonna be hanging out like

1404
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,240
Speaker 1: not in uniform, He's gonna be wearing like jeans.

1405
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 2: Oh, he'll be on the field with Pete for sure.

1406
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. He's gonna hang out everybody. But

1407
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:12,879
Speaker 1: that's not I Yeah, maybe maybe the door against that spot.

1408
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 1: Now I'm wanna say it about that. If it didn't

1409
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 1: field nationally, isn't going I go see Lindor at this

1410
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 1: point being like nine May plants.

1411
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 2: Which player puts on a Willy Maje jersey while he hits.

1412
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 2: Oh it's probably Pete, right.

1413
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: God fuck no, I don't I think someone. I think

1414
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: Pa is enough money now that he has enough pr

1415
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 1: people around him, like his personal people, and they're like,

1416
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 1: don't do that. Who does not know?

1417
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 2: I I hope there's no African American players. So I

1418
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 2: was gonna say, I just I hope no one, You

1419
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 2: hope nobody. Someone's gonna do it. It's a guarantee someone's

1420
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 2: gonna do it, No fucking way.

1421
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 1: If it was in San Francisco. Yeah, but there's no

1422
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 1: way something you want to make a bet on that

1423
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: if someone wears a Willy Maze jersey, if they.

1424
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 2: Wear Willy Maze jersey, or they wear like a number

1425
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 2: twenty four instead of the normal number they wear, because

1426
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 2: didn't they do that for Hank Aaron? Didn't Pete wear

1427
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:58,919
Speaker 2: forty four one year?

1428
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: I hope not. I don't know. I hope you didn't

1429
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 1: do that. If he did that, I don't want to

1430
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: publicize it. I want to keep that down loud. That's

1431
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,359
Speaker 1: fucking horrible. But la oh god, we're talking will he Maye.

1432
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 1: I have a Willie Mays fact. I've been slacking on

1433
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: them something someone got me in the YouTube comments. I

1434
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 1: haven't been doing them. So great one. So Willie Mays

1435
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 1: one of the eighteen players history of baseball have a

1436
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 1: four homer game. That is more rare than throwing a

1437
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 1: perfect game. Twenty four players history of baseball have done that.

1438
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: So that's pretty serious thing. And Willie may is the

1439
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 1: only member of the of the six hundred home run

1440
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: club to have a four home run game, and his

1441
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 1: four home run game came April thirty, nineteen sixty one,

1442
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 1: weirdly against Hank Aaron, who the boss the Milwaukee Braves,

1443
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: and he hit two home runs in that game. So

1444
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 1: Hank Aarrett two home runs and Willie Mays had four

1445
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 1: home runs eight RBI's. And this, this is the craziest

1446
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,839
Speaker 1: thing about this. Three of William Mays's four home runs

1447
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: in this game either came off of a World Series,

1448
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:49,399
Speaker 1: MVP or All Star.

1449
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, that's crazy. I mean, what a game you

1450
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 2: saw if you went to that one in person, freak out.

1451
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: I mean, also, it was April and Milwaukee, and I'm

1452
00:55:58,000 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 1: sure they didn't have indoor stadiums yet, so I guess

1453
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 1: that probably it was sucked to be at that game.

1454
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, you would have seen some true history Williams

1455
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: versus Hank Aaron six total home runs.

1456
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 2: All right, good little fact there from James. How we're

1457
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 2: gonna wrap up the show because what are we gonna do.

1458
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 2: We don't have it. We're not previewing a series in

1459
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 2: this episode. We'll drop an episode before we get back

1460
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 2: from the break. For sure. We have to do.

1461
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 1: We gotta do some medium marvels because yeah we could,

1462
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,839
Speaker 1: we could un with a good one. So first one,

1463
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,800
Speaker 1: quick one, just Bob Nightingale doing some draft coverage booth

1464
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 1: is just one of the best, the best journalists that's

1465
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 1: ever existed in baseball media. So there was something great

1466
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 1: that happened this first round of the draft where it's

1467
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 1: just there was a lot more black players taken in

1468
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 1: the last few years, and it just so happened that

1469
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: nine of the first twenty one player players taken in

1470
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:39,919
Speaker 1: the first round were black. And Howard Ranams was talking

1471
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:41,720
Speaker 1: about it that like, it feels like the rule changes

1472
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: are pushing athleticism, so it's bringing kind of a new

1473
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,320
Speaker 1: kind of player in the game, you know, defense, versatility, speed.

1474
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 1: Bob Nightingale takes this commentary and tweets MLB Draft colon

1475
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 1: nine of the first twenty one players selected in the

1476
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 1: first round are black. Hashtag diversity.

1477
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 2: I mean, the hashtag diversity is insane.

1478
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: I haven't seen a hashtag on Twitter in the decade.

1479
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: And Bob Nightingale's like, yeah, that's also true. No one

1480
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 1: uses hashtags. I go about fifteen years if new hashtags

1481
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 1: hashtag diversity.

1482
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 2: I had some almost like put that on a T shirt.

1483
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 2: She stop.

1484
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: I love to put a T shirt with.

1485
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 2: Just a picture of Bob Nightingale's face hashtag diversity.

1486
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1487
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 2: And now we've got the real media. Marvel hit us

1488
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 2: all right.

1489
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 1: So if people were watching the Yankee game on Sunday,

1490
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 1: weirdly they played eleven thirty in the morning, shoutout Roku.

1491
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: It was a huge end of a series game against

1492
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 1: the Orioles where the Yankees had a dramatic comfort behind

1493
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: win after Ben Rice had an amazing home run at

1494
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: the top of the ninth inning. Wait, oh shit, no,

1495
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: you're right, that's not what happened. Actually, with two outs

1496
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 1: in the ninth inning, Anthony Volpi gone in front of

1497
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 1: a ball and just totally booted it to extend the game.

1498
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 1: And then Cedric Maullins in the line drive to left

1499
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 1: field that Alex du got possessed by a demon and

1500
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 1: he fell down, and then the Yankees lost the game,

1501
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 1: and to.

1502
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 2: Go lost all motor skill functioned in that moment that.

1503
00:57:58,040 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 1: Was after Anthony Volpi just kind of kicked the ball,

1504
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: just didn't didn't make a play. Anthony Volpey's been a

1505
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 1: great defender, but I think a lot of people, especially

1506
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: in New York media, got really ahead of their skis

1507
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 1: on Anthony Volpi in like the first two to three

1508
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: weeks of April and one of the people who did

1509
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 1: it the worst was whatever. The opposite of a friend

1510
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 1: of the product of the program is Brandon Tierney. Yeah,

1511
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 1: one of the bald guys on WFAN. You guys probably

1512
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: know the rest of them, but he had a quote

1513
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 1: from It was April tenth and they were talking about

1514
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 1: the growth of Anthony Volpi, basically saying he was like

1515
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: becoming a star in the American League. He said specifically,

1516
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 1: he goes, if you could tell me that one day,

1517
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 1: Anthony Volpi's going to be Cleveland in Door, I sent

1518
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:36,919
Speaker 1: up for that in a second. That's exactly the player

1519
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 1: I think Volpi will be in Camby. But if you

1520
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 1: tell me that he's gonna wind up being like Mets Lindor,

1521
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 1: I'll pass on that. I think Volpe ceilings a lot

1522
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 1: higher than that, because this version of Volpi is clutch.

1523
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: He makes the big plays in the big situations. Lindor's

1524
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: not that guy. I know, he's not clutch.

1525
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's a take.

1526
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 1: That was a take, And now Anthony Volpe makes a

1527
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 1: game losing error, and then I just was like, you

1528
00:58:57,880 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna scroll around a little bit for

1529
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 1: a second. I know there's a lot of Yankee fans

1530
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 1: who had some who had some takes about Volpi and

1531
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:05,439
Speaker 1: lndor in general. Like going back to April, I found

1532
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 1: Yankees World Addison, who's a great Twitter account, but it's

1533
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 1: just funny, like he on April seventh, he said, Anthony Volpi,

1534
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 1: you're an American League leader in war and it was

1535
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 1: zero point eight war and he was also tied with

1536
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 1: three other players. And then a friend of the program

1537
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 1: Big Game bangal Anthony Volpe developing plus having one sodom

1538
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 1: means that Aaron Judge does not have to carry the

1539
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 1: Yankees anymore and they'll still win. I love it that

1540
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 1: wounds up not being true either. Another one from Adison.

1541
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 1: Look at Anthony Volpi man on April second leading the

1542
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 1: American League on base percentage with a six sixty seven

1543
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 1: on base percentage. It's always funny to me when people

1544
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 1: take these stats, they lead the league in these things,

1545
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 1: and it's such a clear number of very small sample

1546
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 1: like two thirds. Oh, that's never going to happen again.

1547
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 1: Another one just random. All the Yankees Twitter is such

1548
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 1: a cess. Pools was going through all these accounts with

1549
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 1: like between one thousand and five thousand followers this guy,

1550
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 1: Iggy Vulpy over greater than great Than Greater signed Lindor through,

1551
00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 1: which is so funny because for the a play that

1552
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 1: hear into the season.

1553
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 2: Again, all I've ever been told by Yankee fans is

1554
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 2: they don't they don't care about the Mets, they don't

1555
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 2: worry about us. But yet they're so they're so fragile.

1556
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 2: They're like, I have to prove Anthony Volpi is better

1557
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 2: than Lindoor, even though it's it's literally untrue. It's not possible.

1558
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 2: If you have that take, you're a dumb idiot.

1559
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, here's another one. Vulpy is New York shortstop, not Lindor.

1560
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 1: I know what I just said, And this is probably

1561
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 1: my favorite racist almost. Yeah, this is a little bit.

1562
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 2: You know, who's the New York's to shortstop? That Italian,

1563
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 2: not this fucking Puerto Rican Francisco whatever his name is.

1564
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 1: Realistically, it's probably significantly more for the Reagans in New

1565
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 1: York at this point than Italians. But digress some So

1566
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 1: nick Muse. Nick Muse is a big time Twitter account

1567
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 1: and it's run by someone named Smithy MYK. I love

1568
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 1: the next we both love the Knicks, but one of

1569
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 1: the worst parts about the Knicks is that most of

1570
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 1: their fans just happen to also be Yankee fans, which

1571
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 1: is a fact I ignore most of the time, but

1572
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 1: sometimes they get reminded of it. And this is a

1573
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 1: tweet from him on June twenty third, which is crazy

1574
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 1: to me that Anthony Volpi leads for Cisco LINDOORA in

1575
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 1: the following Cary Glorious and it was war WRC plus OAA,

1576
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 1: batting average, on base percentage, WOLBA stolen bases and he

1577
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 1: was like, this is why he's better than Francisco Indoor.

1578
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 1: And then he was deep in his mentions arguing with

1579
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 1: people about why Volpe's better than Francisco Indoor. And now

1580
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna talk about Volpi verus Francisco Indoor in

1581
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 1: general right now, like at this second, to see who's better.

1582
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 1: Who do you think is better at baseball player? Right now?

1583
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 2: Mark, I mean it's gotta be the cute Italian, right,

1584
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 2: I mean, it's gotta be Derek Jeeter two point zero.

1585
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean almost you would think it's Derek Jetor

1586
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 1: two point zero, but actually it just so happens to

1587
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 1: be Francisco Indoor. No, so on June twenty third, like

1588
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 1: Smithie Nyk said, Anthony Vopy did have more WAR than

1589
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 1: Fancisco Indoor. But as of right now, Anthony Volpi has

1590
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 1: two point three WAR and Francisco Indoor has four point one.

1591
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 1: Since June twenty third, which was two and a half

1592
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 1: weeks ago, Anthony Volpe's accumulated zero WAR for Franciscal Indors

1593
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 1: accumulated about two, So he's almost double Anthi Volpi at

1594
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 1: this point. And something that's the cool that Volpey did

1595
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 1: on Sunday before he made that costly error that literally

1596
01:01:57,880 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 1: cost the Yankees a game. He actually has first section

1597
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 1: it's hitting two weeks so it was cool that mister

1598
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 1: Singles got the ball out of the infield for once

1599
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 1: and he got an extra brace hit. He then you know,

1600
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 1: compounded it with the error. But uh so, suddenly also

1601
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:11,920
Speaker 1: Francisco Indoor as a does he have a higher banging average. No,

1602
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 1: he has a higher banging average, a higher bag. Fron

1603
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 1: Door is hitting two fifty. Volpi has a ninety one

1604
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:20,439
Speaker 1: WRC plus, so we call that andres him and his range,

1605
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 1: where Francisco Indoor is a one twenty three w RC plus.

1606
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 1: Uh well, as you want I know, Homers, Lindora is seventeen,

1607
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 1: Volpi has six.

1608
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 2: Volp has seventeen doubles though.

1609
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 1: That's pretty good. Oh well, I think Lindor has has

1610
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 1: a how many doubles do you have? Twenty six doubles?

1611
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 1: And then I we learned from that guy too that

1612
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 1: that stolen bases me a lot for hitters. Son Door

1613
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:42,520
Speaker 1: is eighteen, Volpi has fifteen. Wow, he literally leads in

1614
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 1: every single category, every every single one. He's better than

1615
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 1: him now and you know, maybe Volpi again has higher

1616
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 1: AAA still, but each of the main error today, So

1617
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 1: I guess that cancels out. But Francisco Indors didn't cost

1618
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 1: the Mets the game single handedly.

1619
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 2: All I'm gonna say is Volpi ended last year with

1620
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 2: the six sixty six ops. Right now he's got a

1621
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 2: six sixty six ops.

1622
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 1: Shut up.

1623
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:02,959
Speaker 2: Wow.

1624
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 1: I mean he is cute in Italian, but maybe he's

1625
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 1: the devil.

1626
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 2: Sell your soul to the devil play for the Yankees.

1627
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 2: That's what it was.

1628
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 1: So if anyone out here is a wfan caller, and

1629
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 1: you guys want to call it into Brandon Tierney this

1630
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 1: week or next, ask him if he would accept Anthony

1631
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 1: Volpi becoming the Mets version of Francisco indoors see. He

1632
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 1: has to say that one.

1633
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, say you still you still stand on that bet?

1634
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 2: That guy is a fucking idiot. If you as brand

1635
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 2: Tierney about that quote, I'll be honest, this is your

1636
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 2: persent chance.

1637
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 1: He remembers. He said that he opens his mouth and

1638
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 1: it's all gone the next second. That's the only way

1639
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 1: you can live live the life he does.

1640
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 2: I'll give you that respect. It respect that you can

1641
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 2: finally spew garbage for hours a day. I don't know

1642
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 2: how you could live with yourself like that. I couldn't

1643
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 2: handle it.

1644
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 1: No, definitely envy him, but I think that's it, and

1645
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 1: I think, just like gonna close this one out, it's

1646
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 1: just I want just you know, a couple of words

1647
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 1: from you, Mets. A first half? Superlatives? Give me, give

1648
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 1: me three adjectives describe the Mets first half.

1649
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 2: Oh you want adjectives? I was gonna give you a

1650
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 2: sound bite. I was just give me words, give me anything,

1651
01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 2: Load up, Dennis Green. They are who we thought they were.

1652
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 2: But they are what we thought they were, and we

1653
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 2: got about the hook. There are three games about five

1654
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 2: hundred which if you would have told us that day one.

1655
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 2: We were like, a great fucking first half. They are

1656
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 2: who we thought they were. They are literally just a

1657
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 2: completely okay, maybe sometimes good baseball team. I'll say this.

1658
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 2: The lineup, the new and improved lineup, it's awesome. It's great.

1659
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 2: That's really really fun to watch. And I didn't think

1660
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 2: the bullpen was gonna be as bad as it was,

1661
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 2: so we got there in a real roundabout way. But

1662
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 2: they are who we thought they were.

1663
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 1: And the thing we thought would be really good is

1664
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 1: the offense. The offense is really good. Just the only

1665
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 1: thing is I think this team gives me a lot

1666
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 1: more ODGA than I thought they were gonna get.

1667
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 2: Oh so much. No, we said that, No, we said

1668
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 2: not oga like this. I don't know, man. We were like,

1669
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to love baseball to watch this team,

1670
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 2: you really do. You gotta love baseball to watch Jake

1671
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 2: def and to give him a nuke every night.

1672
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 1: I think it's the opposite. I don't think you have

1673
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 1: to love baseball to watch this team because this team

1674
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 1: is perfect. You don't like baseball because they just fucking

1675
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 1: hit the shit out of the ball. I thought this

1676
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 1: would be more of like a scrappy, middling offensive team

1677
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 1: with like a good bullpen and like fine, I'd really

1678
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 1: but I just thought Edwin Diaz would be like seventy

1679
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 1: percent of the form myself and not fifty percent of

1680
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 1: the form of self, and we'd have Brooks Raylei and

1681
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 1: not having brook Rally sucks. I'm gonna keep talking about

1682
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 1: all year because.

1683
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 2: That's it is a killer.

1684
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's Kayler. If we had if we had this

1685
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 1: dead no Noonias in that Brooks Ralli and that Edwin

1686
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 1: Dias be the best open in every Garrett's like the

1687
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 1: fourth or fifth option.

1688
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 2: My god, where would we looking perfect?

1689
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 1: But we'll give you guys, like a firm you know,

1690
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 1: second half preview this week before we come back. Maybe

1691
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 1: just like soft thinking, maybe Wednesday morning, we'll do that

1692
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 1: Thursday morning that comes out whenever that happens. But I

1693
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm excited for the second half. I think

1694
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 1: this this overall, well, this Mets season again has been

1695
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 1: painful and miserable at times, and even when the team

1696
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 1: is good every single games like Dann fuck, fuck, fuck,

1697
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 1: this has been one of the more enjoyable Mets watching

1698
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 1: experiences I think that we've had in terms of pure

1699
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 1: entertainment value.

1700
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 2: Ah man, I don't know if I can go there.

1701
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is one of the more

1702
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 2: enjoyable entertaining That's what I'm saying. I mean, dude, hundred

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01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 2: and what I'm trying to see when they got to

1704
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:56,919
Speaker 2: their lowest they were fucking twenty four and thirty five

1705
01:05:57,000 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 2: on June second, Like, there's nothing particularly enjoyable about this

1706
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 2: team besides the fact.

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01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 1: Yeah we got there, it didn't even happen. Nah fuck

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01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 1: that I've been talking about what's happened since it's.

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01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 2: Been a rollercoaster oh and five start to then go

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01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 2: twelve or twelve and eight to then go to twenty

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01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 2: four and thirty five to then end the first half

1712
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 2: of forty nine and forty six. Could literally could not

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01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 2: have written it any more. Mets like this is. They

1714
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 2: are the New York Mets. Hashtag These Mets, best marketing

1715
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 2: campaign ever, These Mets. Let's wrap it here, all right, guys,

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for watching and listening. You know

1717
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 2: what to do. Follow us on all our social media

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01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 2: at Mets up on Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok. Subscribes to

1719
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 2: the Messed Up Podcast YouTube channel. If you have not

1720
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,120
Speaker 2: yet done so, so you can see the life that

1721
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 2: I've gained in the couple of hours since the beginning

1722
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 2: of the podcast to the end, I feel like a

1723
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 2: new human. If you're listening to US Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google,

1724
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 2: drop us a rating, drops a review, download and subscribe.

1725
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:52,000
Speaker 2: I'm also gonna check the reviews right now, so if

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01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 2: we got any new ones in there, to shout out

1727
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 2: James or could they follow you? Follow me, James underscore Siano,

1728
01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 2: I am diraft mark with a C. In terms of

1729
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 2: new reviews, you don't got any new reviews.

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01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 1: I think we left one last time.

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01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 2: Did we not read Uh no, no, we read this.

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01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 2: We read Big Ben Buddy, who was like, I like

1733
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 2: when these guys are drunk and they got good chemistry,

1734
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 2: and I was like, I was like, I hope we

1735
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 2: do we're friends. It'd be weird.

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Speaker 1: I guess that's that. Then, all right, see you guys,

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Speaker 1: see guys next time at then