Speaker 1: Welco up to Reality with the King.
Speaker 2: It's me Carlos Kings, the King of Reality TV and
Speaker 2: one of the most sought after executive producers in reality
Speaker 2: television with over ten years a production experience. Twice a
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Speaker 1: All Right, so let's get it too. Tonight's gonna be
Speaker 1: so much fun.
Speaker 2: I'm so giddy because I'm here with Claudia and Me, Me,
Speaker 2: and they are best friends and they are the perfect
Speaker 2: to recap tonight's I'm Sorry last night's episode.
Speaker 1: Tonight, So let's get into the Real Housewives of Atlanta.
Speaker 2: As you all know, Smi and Porsche are going through
Speaker 2: this tough time in their friendship.
Speaker 1: So the episode started out.
Speaker 2: With Shemiah meeting with Cynthia Bailey and she spoke about
Speaker 2: what her and Porsche are going through. In this conversation,
Speaker 2: she did mention along the lines that Porsche and I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: Porscha's mother and Shamia's mother aren't friends anymore. Okay, So
Speaker 2: as you know Claudia, a housewife, gets the episode a
Speaker 2: day or two before it airs on Saturday morning. I
Speaker 2: want to stay with some and thirty am. Okay, I
Speaker 2: want to say with some and thirty am. I wasn't
Speaker 2: even able to wipe the codes from my eye. And
Speaker 2: I go on Instagram as I'm preparing for my day,
Speaker 2: and Porsche Williams posted a message on her Instagram fee
Speaker 2: meet me and Claudia, not the stories, but the feed. Okay,
Speaker 2: So I'm going to tell you all what she said.
Speaker 1: Because I look, I'm a journalist. Hey, Porscha, Hey Claudia.
Speaker 2: If I want to make sure that I read to y'all,
Speaker 2: birdbatim what she Okay?
Speaker 3: Wait?
Speaker 1: Can I find it? Did I delete it?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Shoot, hold on, child, Okay, I'll look for it.
Speaker 2: But long story short, Porsche told Shamilla that she watched
Speaker 2: the episode.
Speaker 1: She didn't like the fact that the mother was brought
Speaker 1: up and that she is going down the wrong road.
Speaker 2: When you guys watched that particular scene, did you feel
Speaker 2: like Shamia was trying to throw the mother?
Speaker 1: Okay, I gotta figure.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna read it to you, Okay, Porscha goes, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna just say this. I'm watching new episode at Shamia.
Speaker 2: She added her we we respect when you keep it
Speaker 2: on the playground. She added, Shma, I'm gonna just say this,
Speaker 2: I'm watching new episode.
Speaker 1: Askamia more in now. Don't take it there. Don't imply
Speaker 1: shit about Diane Williams. That's Porsia's mother.
Speaker 2: I've been keeping it cute, quiet and you can do
Speaker 2: and say what you want in me, but hear me
Speaker 2: when I say all caps.
Speaker 1: Wrong road, wrong.
Speaker 2: Road, talking about well, your mom thought my mom was
Speaker 2: a friend, knowing goddamn well, what she did to my
Speaker 2: mom was highly egregious.
Speaker 1: Don't do it, keep playing victim and that.
Speaker 2: BS don't f with my mom. Yes, E g R
Speaker 2: E G I O U as Claudia Jordan.
Speaker 4: First of all, I like to get props. What props
Speaker 4: to do? So that's great. That's a big word. Stop it, Porche.
Speaker 4: You're reaching now. It goes from the be between you
Speaker 4: and your friend to now being mad about the mother's
Speaker 4: What Samia said was not even that bad about your mama,
Speaker 4: and they made very well, had some kind of beef
Speaker 4: that you were not even born or around for. I
Speaker 4: just think that you're kind of I think Porscha's season
Speaker 4: has been disappointing, and she knows it the fact that
Speaker 4: Simon and I put that a lot of that on
Speaker 4: Simon by being so petty and blocking a lot of
Speaker 4: her storyline. So now you're making it. You're willing to
Speaker 4: blow up your friendship with your friend and now bring
Speaker 4: the mom like. I don't think what Chamia said was
Speaker 4: really bad. She was giving context to what she's saying.
Speaker 4: I do not think that Shmia was being an evil person.
Speaker 4: I don't think she was being messy. I do, however,
Speaker 4: think that Samiah doesn't feel maybe as confident or I'm
Speaker 4: sorry thirsty. Now that's thirsty. You call me thirsty. I'm
Speaker 4: not thirsty. This is thirsty right here?
Speaker 5: Okay, I did all.
Speaker 1: I didn't call you thirsty, Qua not you.
Speaker 5: No, it was one of the rain drops. Yeah, I
Speaker 5: just think that.
Speaker 4: Okay, when you feel like you're not heard by the
Speaker 4: person that you want to hear you, you're gonna go
Speaker 4: talk to someone. You have to get it out, as
Speaker 4: some you have to get it out at some point.
Speaker 4: And I feel like she felt comfortable talking about the situation.
Speaker 4: Plus she's on a reality show where she has to
Speaker 4: do a scene she has to talk about it, like
Speaker 4: is that being lost on folks and Porscha knows better?
Speaker 5: I just don't. In my opinion, I don't think what she.
Speaker 4: Said was that, Like she wasn't talking shit and trashing
Speaker 4: the mom or Porscha's mom. I think Porsha was reaching
Speaker 4: with that.
Speaker 6: My opinion on this is whatever is going on in
Speaker 6: their friendship that we don't know about, because I'm sure
Speaker 6: it's a lot. Of course, it's a lot we don't
Speaker 6: know about. And whatever Porscha is going through currently, i e.
Speaker 6: Her divorce, she doesn't want to discuss this real thing
Speaker 6: that's happening with her in Shemiah. Samiah is visibly saying,
Speaker 6: I want to talk to you, I want to communicate
Speaker 6: with you. Please tell me what's going on, and Porscha
Speaker 6: shuts her down every step of the way. She's no,
Speaker 6: she's stopped, you know, And so it's you can't have
Speaker 6: a one sided conversation, Shemiah. I see, it's trying to
Speaker 6: talk to her friend, and Porsha is visibly not trying
Speaker 6: to have these conversations.
Speaker 7: It's just very obvious.
Speaker 2: Okay, So let's I want to talk about this because
Speaker 2: one of the other things that was said, and Shemiah
Speaker 2: sat down with Cynthia, she did say that Porscha told
Speaker 2: her that Miss Diane did say that apple doesn't fall
Speaker 2: far from.
Speaker 1: The tree as she was talking about Shemiah.
Speaker 2: And my thing is this, Okay, Now we're now aware, right,
Speaker 2: we are aware that two best a set of best
Speaker 2: friends mothers are getting along, and in my opinion, I
Speaker 2: think it's the reason why I don't think a lot
Speaker 2: of people are really resting on that. I'm sure it
Speaker 2: is hard to be best friends with somebody where our
Speaker 2: mothers have been for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So one of the things that I really want to
Speaker 2: dive into in this episode, and we'll talk about the
Speaker 2: scene between Portia and Shamiyah. First of all, this episode
Speaker 2: was great to me. I love personal story, so to
Speaker 2: get an opportunity to really see some of that that me,
Speaker 2: you and I speak about. Claudia, we love to read,
Speaker 2: we love the Shane and all that. But this episode
Speaker 2: to me really dive deep into what was going on.
Speaker 2: We're now seeing the root of what has been evident.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying this is so reasoning, but it's some
Speaker 2: of it. Two girls who are best friends mothers are
Speaker 2: getting along for whatever reason, we don't know that yet.
Speaker 2: The producer did ask Shamiyah, well, why did you why
Speaker 2: did your mom and miss Diane fall out?
Speaker 1: And Shemiah did not answer the ques question.
Speaker 2: It is clear that that is part of the reason
Speaker 2: that these two women have this very weird dynamic and
Speaker 2: in order for us to really understand it, don't you
Speaker 2: too feel maybe you don't that that to me is
Speaker 2: a huge part of this as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I couldn't imagine if my mother, Well, actually I
Speaker 4: had a friend before, a really good friends that one
Speaker 4: of my my mom was like always kind of throwing
Speaker 4: shots at and it made it really uncomfortable, and I
Speaker 4: felt like I was like between a rock and a
Speaker 4: hard place, because of course I love my mom, but
Speaker 4: then I also love my friend. I feel like my
Speaker 4: mother was wrong in that situation. I feel like she
Speaker 4: was like assuming things about something that wasn't true, and
Speaker 4: it was I felt like it was my place. Like
Speaker 4: I'm also the type that just because someone's blood that's
Speaker 4: mean I ride with you no matter what you do.
Speaker 4: I still have to be like, no, Mom, you're wrong
Speaker 4: about that, or you're not right, or let me tell
Speaker 4: you the real about this. And I just didn't think
Speaker 4: that was cute to just sit there and like, you know,
Speaker 4: her mom saying that apple don't fall far from the tree.
Speaker 4: That's like the fifty eleft time that someone shaded Semi
Speaker 4: in front of Porsche and Porsche just doesn't say anything,
Speaker 4: like she just never defends her friend. And if there
Speaker 4: is this big thing that Shamia is doing that we
Speaker 4: don't know about, let us know and then maybe we'll
Speaker 4: be more empathetic to you and be like, all right, Porscha,
Speaker 4: you're right about that, you know, I mean, but we
Speaker 4: don't know this bad thing that Shamia has supposedly done
Speaker 4: to Porsche. And if she would tell us, then we
Speaker 4: would know. But if she doesn't tell us, it just
Speaker 4: seems like you're like you're being a hater. Maybe you
Speaker 4: don't like that she's in your territory now getting attention.
Speaker 4: But it's so weird, like the moms have beef. But
Speaker 4: Porscha's mom, Diane is the one that said that apple
Speaker 4: don't fall far from the tree, and then Samiah was
Speaker 4: the one that didn't want to divulge exactly what the
Speaker 4: thing is. So again, Shamia to me, is still being
Speaker 4: a little protective, like she's given you a little bit,
Speaker 4: but she's still not going that she could get got
Speaker 4: and she's not. And then Porscha goes and writes that
Speaker 4: message like damn are they calling each other? But I
Speaker 4: don't know me what you think?
Speaker 6: Like I said, there's something behind the scenes clearly that
Speaker 6: we don't know about. And these two women are just
Speaker 6: giving the bits and the piece of the meat and
Speaker 6: potatoes of the situation. And until they feel comfortable having
Speaker 6: a conversation on camera, where everybody's going to be in
Speaker 6: the dark, everybody's going to be like, what's going on
Speaker 6: because it's just you know, these bits and pieces from
Speaker 6: this site, from this site, she's saying this, she's saying that,
Speaker 6: she's not saying this, she's not saying that, So we
Speaker 6: nobody knows what's happening.
Speaker 1: So that's the thing.
Speaker 2: I really want to take a deep dive into what
Speaker 2: is going on potential me and Porsche. I watched the episode.
Speaker 2: I actually watched an episode twice because I really wanted
Speaker 2: to pay attention to the nuances so that we could
Speaker 2: really have an educated conversation or the dynamics of female
Speaker 2: friendships when it comes to two women in the same industry,
Speaker 2: one makes it big and the other one does not, Right,
Speaker 2: I want to have a real conversation.
Speaker 1: Okay, So what we know for.
Speaker 2: Sure is this, Shamia and Porsche have been friends since
Speaker 2: they were teenage girls, right, middle school slash high school?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: Who you are as teenagers?
Speaker 2: Oftentimes you're not the same when you're a woman in
Speaker 2: your forties. Okay, you have different dreams and different goals
Speaker 2: from my understanding.
Speaker 1: Okay, when they have to.
Speaker 2: Sit down, what we aren't really talking about Mimi and Claudia,
Speaker 2: two women who have been best friends since since they
Speaker 2: were in their early twenties. Shamiah did get her hand
Speaker 2: caught in the cookie jar right by having a pinky
Speaker 2: swear with Angela okay, and Drew Sodora about I'm going
Speaker 2: to tell you what's going on with to me and Porsche,
Speaker 2: but don't tell anybody. Angela said that she used one
Speaker 2: hand to pinky swear and the other hand to cross
Speaker 2: her fingers, like, I'm not keeping this secret.
Speaker 5: O, don't.
Speaker 2: This is what Angela said, I barely know you. I'm
Speaker 2: not keeping on promises, right. Long story short, these girls
Speaker 2: found out that there were some issues going on between
Speaker 2: Porsche and Shamia based on Shamia revealing that.
Speaker 1: So what was confusing to me? And I want to
Speaker 1: get your thoughts on this.
Speaker 2: When Shamiah is on the episode saying, Porscha allow these
Speaker 2: girls to get in her head, I was listen, I
Speaker 2: love them both, but I was confused because to me,
Speaker 2: the only reason we know about this is because Shamiah
Speaker 2: did tell Angela and Drew in a pinky swear sorcery
Speaker 2: of a secret.
Speaker 1: So isn't that sort of female friends.
Speaker 2: Isn't that sort of the crux of what the issue
Speaker 2: is as we're seeing it played off this season?
Speaker 4: She's I will say this, and I know ya y'all
Speaker 4: think I'm always gonna just never say anything possi about Porsche. Yes,
Speaker 4: I would definitely feel away if my best friend was
Speaker 4: on the show and made pinky swears with other girls
Speaker 4: to tell our business before talking to me. If you
Speaker 4: have not tried to talk to me, If you try
Speaker 4: to talk to me first, as one thing. But if
Speaker 4: you never did and it's the first time you'll have
Speaker 4: in a conversation, that's another thing. But we can sit
Speaker 4: here and say and pretend that the girls didn't know
Speaker 4: until Samias spilled the beans. But the girls have been
Speaker 4: at all the other outings where Porscha has been shading Shamiyah.
Speaker 4: When they were playing Shamiah's song, Porscha's like, is this drew,
Speaker 4: Like you don't know what your best friend's voice sounds like.
Speaker 4: There's been other instances where Porsche has shaded Shamia, showing
Speaker 4: up to the birthday party late, making it about her,
Speaker 4: like there's other things that the girls. Even if she
Speaker 4: Shmia did not sit down and tell the girls that
Speaker 4: there's been issues. They have two eyes and they have
Speaker 4: two ears and they can see that that something was brewing. Now,
Speaker 4: now Samia did go ahead and confirm it with the girls,
Speaker 4: like kind.
Speaker 5: Of putting the nail on the coffin.
Speaker 4: But it's not like they were oblivious before Shamia had
Speaker 4: this scene and pinkys war.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: But I will say I can empathize with Porsche. If
Speaker 4: my friend was on a show with me and there
Speaker 4: was other scenes where you're talking about me, I would
Speaker 4: like to know about that.
Speaker 5: I would so I feel you on that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I agread one thousand percent as someone that was
Speaker 6: friends since you know, their teenage years, and now you're
Speaker 6: on a show, and from my understanding, Shamia is on
Speaker 6: this show because of Porsche.
Speaker 2: Correct, Well, I want to I want to say this,
Speaker 2: and and Claudia and mem you guys can ask me
Speaker 2: any question. From a producer perspective, we got to have
Speaker 2: a real conversation. And and this is what's not happening
Speaker 2: on the show because Porscha and Shia aren't having real
Speaker 2: conversations to each other, right they Well, I I saw
Speaker 2: last night and me me, I'm gonna go someplace with
Speaker 2: us based on what you're asking.
Speaker 7: Hey, Dustin, dust it, you made it.
Speaker 1: You're muted dust it.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 8: I never think that our motherfucking too far away? Okay,
Speaker 8: fresh off the plane?
Speaker 3: What's up, Memi? How beautiful? Good? How are you? What's up? Claudia?
Speaker 1: Love boy?
Speaker 5: I'm so glad you mean they're in the comments? Say
Speaker 5: where's Dustin? Where's theming? Like he got me back?
Speaker 4: He on a plane because he's a baller, he'd be
Speaker 4: doing things everywhere.
Speaker 3: Listen.
Speaker 8: I had to go work and l a much love
Speaker 8: to Los Angeles. I had a great, productive, restoring weekend.
Speaker 8: I feel really good, so I'm ready to talk some ship.
Speaker 8: Let's talk about these housewives.
Speaker 4: You look young and refreshed and happy. It's like you
Speaker 4: had a good weekend.
Speaker 8: Friend, Thank you friend. I did, and I'll definitely be
Speaker 8: texting you the cliffs notes later on.
Speaker 4: I got some things to text you too. I had
Speaker 4: a person of interest, but I'll tell you about that later.
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean, y'all.
Speaker 1: Wait, I'm in y'all group chat. Y'all bout this mean
Speaker 1: and portioned me and.
Speaker 4: Know I'm gonna tell you, guys both, I was at
Speaker 4: you see how they.
Speaker 1: Do right drops they are about to should.
Speaker 4: Be I'm in I'm in a group text with you.
Speaker 5: You guys, you both what carlos?
Speaker 3: Are we boring you? You?
Speaker 8: Let's talk about sit now, let's talk about it. That
Speaker 8: was That was something to see. That was something to see.
Speaker 2: Okay, as as I moved my forks and knives, still weare.
Speaker 1: Say I don't care. I don't care.
Speaker 5: A lot of passing aggressive, you know.
Speaker 1: What I mean.
Speaker 2: Where Porscha moved those forks and doves, she ate that punitended,
Speaker 2: I thought, listen, I don't care.
Speaker 1: Read me. I love television. I love subtle shade.
Speaker 2: Where Porsche rearranged the silver ware the table. That was
Speaker 2: I literally laughed at the screen and said, Porsia you
Speaker 2: are petty and that is funny to.
Speaker 1: Me, but very arranged, very loudly. I was here for it.
Speaker 1: But does it Thanks for Jordy.
Speaker 2: Okay, we're gonna have a real conversation because Mimi asked
Speaker 2: a good question.
Speaker 1: Mimi said, it's Shamiah on the show because of Porsche. Okay.
Speaker 2: The fast answer is yes, and and and and and
Speaker 2: hear me out. Without Porsche, we would not have no
Speaker 2: who Shemia is.
Speaker 1: Right, I'm not saying.
Speaker 2: That Porsche contacted human resources, filled out the job application,
Speaker 2: set in her birth certificate, wrote down her social Security number,
Speaker 2: and did three name. Yes, mother's made a name, and
Speaker 2: give me give me three security questions. What's the first
Speaker 2: model of your car, what's the name of your pet?
Speaker 6: And listen, I understand what's happening. It was just that
Speaker 6: we're friends for a very long time, and that's how
Speaker 6: Shamiah got on the show.
Speaker 7: This is my best fie, this is my girl. You
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying. And but Shamia put in her
Speaker 7: work to.
Speaker 6: Be a housewife and get a peach, so I get
Speaker 6: the dynamic of the situation.
Speaker 7: I'm just saying.
Speaker 6: Initially, how Shemiya was introduced to this situation was from and.
Speaker 5: Candy, right, didn't Candy have a hand in it too?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I'm gonna give y'all some backstory. Okay, Porscha
Speaker 2: came on the show season five. Okay, we met Shamiah
Speaker 2: because of Porsche.
Speaker 1: And that's what you did. Clauda, you know this, Mimi,
Speaker 1: you know this, Mimi.
Speaker 2: You brought Arian on the show, and I want to
Speaker 2: get your thoughts on that, because Mimi brought a friend
Speaker 2: on the show, and I want to dive into your
Speaker 2: friendship with Arian based on you bring the friend to
Speaker 2: the show. As producers, you throw you know, you ask
Speaker 2: like who's your girl whatever.
Speaker 1: Shemiah came on with Porsche.
Speaker 2: Now, in terms of who got Porsche on season sixteenth
Speaker 2: that were currently watching, there are conversations and Candy said,
Speaker 2: it's out her own mouth because she said it.
Speaker 1: Candy said that she put in.
Speaker 2: The word to the producers to hire Shemiah. That's what
Speaker 2: Candy said. Okay, So that's that's that's that's that's tier
Speaker 2: two to how Shemia got on. But we only know
Speaker 2: of Shemiah because Portia didn't bring around a friend. And
Speaker 2: and secondly, secondly, Shemiah was definitely a main storyline season nine. Okay,
Speaker 2: she came to the reunion, So what the one thing
Speaker 2: that I want to ask the ladies and Dustin obviously
Speaker 2: you too, because I'm going someplace with this. Nobody wants
Speaker 2: to have a real conversation that isn't PC And that
Speaker 2: is what happens when your friend wants a job at
Speaker 2: your place of work?
Speaker 1: Okay? What happens when that's the case.
Speaker 2: What happens when you two are friends and we have
Speaker 2: our dreams in life and one person becomes a real
Speaker 2: Housewives of Atlanta? Okay, and then all of a sudden
Speaker 2: that person's friend wants to be a housewife too? Is
Speaker 2: there some sort of code when it comes to female friendships?
Speaker 1: So I want to I want to get to me,
Speaker 1: to Mimi first.
Speaker 2: Because me me, You were a main cast member on
Speaker 2: the on Love and Hip Hop Atlanta and your best
Speaker 2: friend Arian was on the show as your friend. What
Speaker 2: I know my time there, there were conversations about whether
Speaker 2: or not Arian.
Speaker 1: Should be full time.
Speaker 2: People love her, She's gorgeous, fan favor all those things.
Speaker 1: Was there something that you felt was.
Speaker 2: Did did the dynamic between you and Arian shift when
Speaker 2: she came on the show.
Speaker 6: Absolutely the dynamic shifted as soon as those cameras started rolling.
Speaker 6: Marian began to befriend everyone that disliked me, began to
Speaker 6: have conversations and do things with everyone who disliked me
Speaker 6: for the spotlight. If you were my friend, you were
Speaker 6: not going to be Nico's wife's muse. You were not
Speaker 6: going to side with k Michelle and give her the
Speaker 6: flowers to hit me in the face with. You are
Speaker 6: not going to do these things if you are my friend.
Speaker 6: So these things I saw in real time that were
Speaker 6: happening that just was like, oh, it was aha moments.
Speaker 6: I had so many aha moments. But at the end
Speaker 6: of the day, I gave her grace still, but this
Speaker 6: is my friend, but my friend, but she's my friend,
Speaker 6: And I kept forgiving and forgiving and and.
Speaker 7: At some point I'm like.
Speaker 6: Nah, my friend, someone who says they're my best friend
Speaker 6: would not do these things to me. My best friend
Speaker 6: is not gonna scoot over and let Jocelyn sit next
Speaker 6: to me to slap me or throw something in my face.
Speaker 7: My best friend's not gonna do that.
Speaker 6: And these are all the things that Marian consistently did,
Speaker 6: seen after see, after seeing and you know, at some
Speaker 6: point I had to wake up and and just like, yo,
Speaker 6: I see what's happening here. You want your spotlight, you
Speaker 6: want to you want to be where I'm at. And
Speaker 6: that's just what it was with us. I'm not saying
Speaker 6: this is what is going on with anybody else. This
Speaker 6: is what it was with Arian and I.
Speaker 8: Y'all cool now, No, really, absolutely not for your friendship
Speaker 8: up in that way.
Speaker 7: Absolutely let me let me.
Speaker 6: Let me give you another little nugget. She just didn't
Speaker 6: have a chance before we got on TV to do
Speaker 6: me dirty. It was her opportunity to just show who
Speaker 6: she really was. There were little things that happened in
Speaker 6: our friendship that I took notice of, and I'm like, damn, Like,
Speaker 6: let me tell you something. Claudie and I in twenty seven,
Speaker 6: twenty eight years have never Claudie's never stole a pair
Speaker 6: of my fucking shoes ever. Let me just tell you
Speaker 6: a little story. I let this woman borrow a pair
Speaker 6: of lubetants brand New had never warned she wanted to,
Speaker 6: she had somewhere to go, Oh I need these here.
Speaker 6: I let her use to lubetants a month and a
Speaker 6: half goes back she never offered to give me my
Speaker 6: shoes back.
Speaker 7: I'm like, damn. So I went to her house. We
Speaker 7: had a booking. I go to her house.
Speaker 6: I see the lubratins sitting right out on the steps.
Speaker 6: It was a few pairs of shoes, which, let me know,
Speaker 6: you just wored them.
Speaker 7: I'm like, oh them back tonight, blah blah blah, get
Speaker 7: my makeup done. I go back out in the entrance.
Speaker 7: The shoes are gone. So I'm like, just the lubertants,
Speaker 7: not the rest of the shoes.
Speaker 6: So that means you realize, oh, they were out. Let
Speaker 6: me put them up somewhere. Not let me put all
Speaker 6: the shoes away, but let me remove these and hide them.
Speaker 7: So I said, oh, we're playing this game.
Speaker 6: So I tell you, she got her makeup done, out
Speaker 6: tore up looking.
Speaker 7: For my shoes. I'm looking everywhere because I'm like, you
Speaker 7: put them somewhere. They were just out. Found them in
Speaker 7: the back of the closet.
Speaker 5: Under a power and you took them right.
Speaker 6: And I put my shoes right in the bag. And
Speaker 6: I didn't say a word because because you know clearly
Speaker 6: this is the game. We planted right put them right
Speaker 6: in my bag and we went to the booking and
Speaker 6: we did all of the stupid stud you know, and
Speaker 6: and it was never spoken of when she went to
Speaker 6: go look under that piler clothes, guess what, the shoes
Speaker 6: were gone. But my friend would never do that. My friend,
Speaker 6: my best friend, is not going to try to steal
Speaker 6: my quaudia.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm over here chomping out the bed.
Speaker 1: Come on.
Speaker 6: So it was things like that that I'm like. It
Speaker 6: was she was just waiting for her opportunity to just
Speaker 6: really show her true colors, and she did so I
Speaker 6: can't even be surprised about it.
Speaker 8: With guys, it's a little bit different, you know what
Speaker 8: I'm saying with guys who works a little bit differently,
Speaker 8: but the same elements of jealousy, envy, resentment, you know,
Speaker 8: people that harbor resentment, all that shit still exists, And personally,
Speaker 8: I just don't think it's any place in real friendship
Speaker 8: for that. If I'm winning, there's always room at the
Speaker 8: table for our people. My friends that are talented have gifts,
Speaker 8: like we all do what we do, and there's room
Speaker 8: for everybody's brand of what they do.
Speaker 3: I will never understand.
Speaker 8: People that gate keep opportunities and keep their fans out
Speaker 8: of the spotlight if you win, and the best feeling
Speaker 8: in the world will be for your friend to be
Speaker 8: winning right next to you and y'all getting that shit together.
Speaker 8: That's just how I feel. I'm not a hater, though,
Speaker 8: so it's a little bit different. I've never the minute
Speaker 8: I sense any of that shit, any jealousy, any type
Speaker 8: of anything that's official and and genuine. I'm out because
Speaker 8: you don't need to have access to me, and I
Speaker 8: don't need to be vulnerable to your harm and vice versa,
Speaker 8: cause if I find out, I'm gonna harm you. So
Speaker 8: that's why we just need to be protected from each other.
Speaker 8: And if we're not going to truly be friends and
Speaker 8: have each other's back, leave me the fuck alone. You
Speaker 8: don't even have to be around here. We don't even
Speaker 8: have to do this. Just gone somewhere and let me
Speaker 8: rock so me and me. I would award them shoes
Speaker 8: out the house. I'd have put them on the world
Speaker 8: one later. Click clack right on it for the driveway.
Speaker 4: The question about can you like if someone where your
Speaker 4: friend comes on the show into your workplace, into your situation, like,
Speaker 4: is that bad or does that ruin the friendship? Or whatever,
Speaker 4: not if they're your real friend. The problem is she
Speaker 4: wasn't your real friend before that camera just magnifies.
Speaker 5: Who the fuck she already was. She was already.
Speaker 4: Trifling and looking at you. Mimi has a very caring heart.
Speaker 4: Mimi is very, very generous. I tell her this all
Speaker 4: the time. She has given so much money and grace
Speaker 4: and food and cash and lubatonts and hair and places
Speaker 4: to stay and use my car to so many people.
Speaker 4: And when she was down and out, I can count
Speaker 4: on maybe this hand who was there back for her.
Speaker 4: None of them hose and a lot of them that
Speaker 4: benefited with Mimi was at the very top.
Speaker 5: When she was on the number one reality show that
Speaker 5: was out there was all her face.
Speaker 4: They were all the parties, they were all there for
Speaker 4: the good times. Mimi was treating for everything. And when
Speaker 4: she's not on the show, where are they now now?
Speaker 4: If that person was really your friend, They're not gonna mind.
Speaker 4: It's gonna yo, Let's go run it up. I was
Speaker 4: on TV way before Mimi, and we had many conversation
Speaker 4: and she did not know what she wanted to do,
Speaker 4: and we had many conversations with me. We would be
Speaker 4: very upset about I just don't know what I want
Speaker 4: to do in life. When my friend got in the
Speaker 4: reality space and blew up and went right past me
Speaker 4: where I was, there was not one tinge of jealousy.
Speaker 4: I was in message board defend of my friend. I
Speaker 4: was like, had her back. I was so happy that
Speaker 4: my girl found something and something found her and blew
Speaker 4: her up, and the people in the world could see
Speaker 4: how dope of a person she is.
Speaker 5: There was nothing of that, and I would have loved it.
Speaker 4: We could have both been on either Loving hip Hop
Speaker 4: or leant A Housewives together because we would have ran
Speaker 4: that shit. There was none of that. It wasn't like,
Speaker 4: oh you coming over here where we are?
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 5: I was so proud.
Speaker 4: We would go to Lenox Mall when I come to
Speaker 4: Atlanta and I'm on Housewives and she's on Love and
Speaker 4: hip Hop, and we was like, if you know, the
Speaker 4: older ones knew who I was and the younger ones
Speaker 4: knew who she was.
Speaker 5: It was dope as shit. That's how you feel.
Speaker 4: A better friend you really love, not soone that you
Speaker 4: just around to benefit off of. And MEI had a
Speaker 4: lot of little I don't know leech is around her
Speaker 4: a lot.
Speaker 2: So I do want to ask you this though, because
Speaker 2: this is a great parallel when Arian was on the show,
Speaker 2: did she ever sit down and say to you, I
Speaker 2: want to be a full cast member of Love and Hipapolanta.
Speaker 6: No, she never expressed that to me. She just showed
Speaker 6: it in her actions while filming with other people and
Speaker 6: conversations with others. It was never a conversation that she
Speaker 6: had with me personally.
Speaker 2: Child. We are just getting started. This is reality with
Speaker 2: the King and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into
Speaker 2: the show. And the reason why I brought this up
Speaker 2: because Claudia doesn't mean me. I want to ask you
Speaker 2: all this as I'm watching the show. So when Porscha
Speaker 2: Shamia said down, I think they both were not ready
Speaker 2: for that conversation because that's not the dynamic of their friendship.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 2: I think Porscha and Shmia do This is my opinion.
Speaker 2: I don't think they have the type of friendship where
Speaker 2: they are are truthful.
Speaker 1: And when I say truthful, I.
Speaker 2: Mean having tough conversations with each other that is their
Speaker 2: own truth. I don't think that's like I don't think
Speaker 2: that's their dynamic. And what I did as my homework assignment.
Speaker 2: I watch those scenes multiple times because I was I was.
Speaker 1: I wanted to understand the dynamic of this friendship.
Speaker 2: So when Shamiah told Porsche, well off camera, I checked.
Speaker 1: You, I should say check you, Shamide? Did I say
Speaker 1: check you?
Speaker 2: Off camera? I spoke to you about you over talking
Speaker 2: me right off camera? I did these things, and that
Speaker 2: to me signaled you two don't have the type of
Speaker 2: friendship to where on camera you're able to have those
Speaker 2: real conversations, because y'all both do it off camera, and
Speaker 2: I thought they both came to that scene not ready
Speaker 2: to hear each other. I think Porsha was so focused
Speaker 2: on I can't believe we have this concert on camera.
Speaker 2: I don't know what she's about to say. And I
Speaker 2: think Shamiah was like, I now have the floor to
Speaker 2: express myself. Did you guys gather that when you was
Speaker 2: watching it too? We can start with Dustin.
Speaker 8: Porsia is the dominant personality in their friendship, and they
Speaker 8: have not found a rhythm after twenty years where Shamia
Speaker 8: can exist within the fullness of herself. That's plain. It's
Speaker 8: day clear to see. It's evident from them in minute
Speaker 8: they share screen time right. That's why Shemiah seems to
Speaker 8: be fighting for respect, and that's never a good position
Speaker 8: to being in any relationship, but especially with somebody who's
Speaker 8: supposed to be your best friend.
Speaker 3: So they have a lot of work to do.
Speaker 8: I actually think that their issues being pushed to the
Speaker 8: forefront and then being forced to address it because of
Speaker 8: the show is a good thing.
Speaker 3: It's a good thing.
Speaker 8: And I love seeing Samia as a housewife. I love
Speaker 8: hearing her speak. I think she has one of the
Speaker 8: prettiest speaking voices I've ever heard in my life. I
Speaker 8: love seeing her be rich with them, beautiful black children.
Speaker 8: I love all of that, and so I think there's
Speaker 8: definitely room for her.
Speaker 3: And this is when you have.
Speaker 8: To be careful about allowing your work to define you
Speaker 8: and be your identity, right because if you being a
Speaker 8: part of this cast, and I'm not speaking about anyone
Speaker 8: in general, this is for any housewife. If you being
Speaker 8: a part of that cast is what makes you who
Speaker 8: you are, then you're going to end up fracturing friendships
Speaker 8: like that when your friends become involved in this thing
Speaker 8: and you don't want them to get full exposure. But
Speaker 8: the powers that be, do you know what I'm saying
Speaker 8: that's what this conflict is about. A lot of Porscha's
Speaker 8: identity right now, and basically since the public has known her,
Speaker 8: has come from the Real Housewives of Atlanta, and I
Speaker 8: think she did not want to. I just think that
Speaker 8: she has just connected herself to that brand so much
Speaker 8: that she feels like Shemia is kind of stepping on
Speaker 8: her toes and she's really not because they both can
Speaker 8: be on that show and do their thing.
Speaker 3: So I don't know.
Speaker 8: I just know I'm never gonna be little boy like that.
Speaker 8: Ain't nobody never gonna be saying, you know, snatching up
Speaker 8: silverwear on me and talking over my song and shit
Speaker 8: like that.
Speaker 3: Like that's things.
Speaker 8: Those microaggressions and not even microaggressions, those aggressions, you know
Speaker 8: what I'm saying, they just don't have a place in friendship.
Speaker 6: So I'm gonna say, maybe it's because Porsche's house is
Speaker 6: crumbling down and Shemiah's house is strong right now, and
Speaker 6: the dynamic is doing this not even on but off
Speaker 6: camera in real life, and so now on camera it's
Speaker 6: making it very uncomfortable because now the roles are kind
Speaker 6: of reversing, and so which is making it difficult for
Speaker 6: these two women who even converse, you know, because Shemiah
Speaker 6: now was finding her voice more vocal, and Porscha is like,
Speaker 6: are you kidding me?
Speaker 7: So it's a clash.
Speaker 4: Also now for the first time in their relationship, I
Speaker 4: do dustin a piggyback off of you. It's obvious Porsche
Speaker 4: little girls Samia all the time.
Speaker 3: Yo.
Speaker 4: Though Shamia clearly has more wealth, has a has a
Speaker 4: successful marriage, has a family life, all of those the
Speaker 4: things Porscha Listen, there's no denying Porscha has a fame,
Speaker 4: She has a lot of charisma and all that. I
Speaker 4: feel like Porscha, to her sister and as well as
Speaker 4: to Shamiah, treats people like they're her assistants or her fans,
Speaker 4: and she's.
Speaker 5: The star and her friends.
Speaker 4: So when Shamia, when when Shamia finally speaks up for
Speaker 4: the first time, and all that we see of it
Speaker 4: almost is like what you talking to me like that?
Speaker 4: That's not been their dynamic, you can tell from that.
Speaker 4: And then and then lunch when they met up, it
Speaker 4: looked like Shamia was almost coming a little too hard
Speaker 4: because finally, finally I finally got the wind behind me,
Speaker 4: and I have this, and so she almost came up
Speaker 4: a little too aggressive in the scene like and then
Speaker 4: and because she's been holding it in for twenty years.
Speaker 5: So you're getting all of.
Speaker 4: These things from five Christmases ago and then that one
Speaker 4: time you did me dirty and then another time. So
Speaker 4: it's a little unfair to unleash it all in that
Speaker 4: scene to Porsche, I will say that in a healthy relationship,
Speaker 4: when it happens, you address it, then we move on.
Speaker 4: So now the argument will happened today is just about today.
Speaker 4: It's not about what happened at prom It's not about
Speaker 4: the time you overshadow me, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So I feel like Shamiah is like, you know, almost
Speaker 4: with Leni and sid with people called said that about
Speaker 4: Cynthia and Nini, like you have the dominant personnality. And
Speaker 4: finally season seven with you know, the backing of Team
Speaker 4: Pritty and all that, she's.
Speaker 5: You know, ry Ra, although I know Cindy to b
Speaker 5: r Rah.
Speaker 4: Outside of that, it almost feels like, wait a minute,
Speaker 4: you ain't never come at me like that before. I'm
Speaker 4: more comfortable with you being in a beta position and
Speaker 4: me being alpha. So now it feels like you're coming
Speaker 4: to me when I'm not. I'm just trying to make
Speaker 4: us more eve equal.
Speaker 2: Claudia Jordans, I mean, listen, listen, listen.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: You gotta get that Carlos all night.
Speaker 1: I got props, knives, spoons, and forces.
Speaker 2: Listen cause, Claudia, thank you for clocking it. The reason
Speaker 2: why I was so thrilled to talk about this today
Speaker 2: with you guys is because I could care less about
Speaker 2: all the duance ses. I care more about what really
Speaker 2: happens in friendships, and I want my audience to be
Speaker 2: real and not pick favorites.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's just have a real conversation. Claude hits and
Speaker 1: nell On the hit every week she does.
Speaker 2: The thing is this, Every friendship has different dynamics and personalities.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, in some friendships, I'll cluck my own shit.
Speaker 2: I was at a friend group in my early twenties
Speaker 2: where I was the beta and another guy was the alpha.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: He was tall, gorgeous, and everybody loved him right, and
Speaker 2: he got everything he wanted, everything he wanted, and the
Speaker 2: dynamics of.
Speaker 1: Our friendship was He never little boyed.
Speaker 2: Me, but I definitely understood that you're the alpha. I'll
Speaker 2: guild deeper. You're the leader. I'm the follower because because
Speaker 2: I can say this, not that I'm older. Back then,
Speaker 2: I would never admit it, because it's not cute to
Speaker 2: admit that. But in real friendships, there are groups of
Speaker 2: people where one person is the dominant one and the
Speaker 2: other person is not okay, And when the other person
Speaker 2: is not the dominant one, it does cause friction. The
Speaker 2: reason why I me and this guy fell out is
Speaker 2: because I finally stood up for myself and I said
Speaker 2: I'm sick and tired.
Speaker 3: He didn't.
Speaker 2: He didn't he did a little boy met, he did
Speaker 2: something shady, and I wrestled with confronting him.
Speaker 1: Long story short, I confronted him.
Speaker 2: We fell out and we haven't spoken since because we
Speaker 2: haven't spoken sense because are the dynamics of our friendship
Speaker 2: just wasn't that?
Speaker 1: And in my friend group now there's no followers.
Speaker 2: But in my friend group now, we're all successful people,
Speaker 2: but we all have very different dynamics of our friend group.
Speaker 2: I just told y'all last week, one of my friends said,
Speaker 2: bitch your Carlos King. I love being a plus one.
Speaker 2: I'm Gail King, your Oprah and bitch. I want you
Speaker 2: to know I'm here for it. I have, I have,
Speaker 2: I got my own life. I don't want to be famous.
Speaker 2: Please don't put a camera front of me. But we
Speaker 2: we have these conversations, and I think that this service
Speaker 2: that Porsha and Samia are doing to each other, They're
Speaker 2: not sitting each other down saying look, I could feel
Speaker 2: some kind of way you wanting to come on my job,
Speaker 2: or Shamiah saying like Claudia said, I'm sick and tired
Speaker 2: of being the background singer and I want a leading
Speaker 2: role in this.
Speaker 1: I really want to know.
Speaker 2: If Shamia ever told Porsche Hi, I would like to
Speaker 2: be a housewife, I would like to hold a peach.
Speaker 2: It's it's it's it's it's it's weird. Me and me
Speaker 2: just talked about how Arian allegedly did not do that.
Speaker 2: I'm saying alleged because you know, child, I love other girls.
Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is, I have a best friend
Speaker 2: who works at a network.
Speaker 1: I've had my dreams.
Speaker 2: He got his dream if he if my best friend
Speaker 2: saw me walk into this network in the lobby and
Speaker 2: he's like, what are you here for, oh child, I'm
Speaker 2: applying for a job. He would have every right to
Speaker 2: feel some kind of way if I did not sit
Speaker 2: him down and say, Hi, I would like to have
Speaker 2: a job at your place of apployment.
Speaker 1: And I think we got to talk about the elephant
Speaker 1: in the room.
Speaker 2: If Shamiah never wants to poorscha down and say, look,
Speaker 2: I would like to be a peach holder, put in
Speaker 2: a word for your girl. If she never did that,
Speaker 2: I would understand why this dynamic is the way it
Speaker 2: is today.
Speaker 4: I don't believe that they never had a conversation about this.
Speaker 4: Did is Shmia hook her up with Simon.
Speaker 1: That I don't I don't know that I don't.
Speaker 5: I find it.
Speaker 4: Hard to believe that they never had a Like when
Speaker 4: you're on a show and they every single year of
Speaker 4: looking for new cast mates, You mean to tell me
Speaker 4: that you and your best friend are not gonna have
Speaker 4: a conversation like, oh I will, hey man if there's
Speaker 4: a spot like slimy in there, or you should actually
Speaker 4: be the one to say it.
Speaker 5: I don't know. I would want my friend on the
Speaker 5: show over some new girls.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 8: We've also been seeing because I agree with you, Carlos, right,
Speaker 8: that would be five it would just be unnatural because
Speaker 8: if you're friends with somebody, those are the type of details,
Speaker 8: details of your life that you discussed, right.
Speaker 3: But in this case, right, the.
Speaker 8: Circumstances are a little bit more unique because her what
Speaker 8: I've been told and what we've all been told right
Speaker 8: in interviews, they've been eyeing Shemiah to be a housewife
Speaker 8: and be a peach holder for a long time and
Speaker 8: she just could not do it because her husband wasn't
Speaker 8: willing to film, and I guess it wouldn't be the
Speaker 8: total package. So this being season sixteen, if they've been
Speaker 8: approaching Shemia since season what.
Speaker 3: Five, six eight? Now, I don't know, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I know, Okay, Samiyah.
Speaker 2: When Shamiyah was on season nine, Shamia, first of all,
Speaker 2: Shamia is one of the most beautiful women I lay line.
Speaker 1: She's so gorgeous.
Speaker 2: Shamiyah has the personality, she has, the lot she has,
Speaker 2: she has, she has everything necessary to be the star
Speaker 2: that she is. And there's not one person breathing who
Speaker 2: can take away shamiah shine. When when Shamiah was approached
Speaker 2: to do the show, so I want I want to
Speaker 2: get into the approach because and I'm not saying Shamia
Speaker 2: did this, but when you are casting for any reality show,
Speaker 2: let's just stick to my man of housewives for today.
Speaker 2: It's one thing for a casting director to pick up
Speaker 2: the phone and say I would like to put you
Speaker 2: on tape, ladies, gentlemen, gays and days. When they call you,
Speaker 2: it doesn't mean you got the job. And I need
Speaker 2: to address that. There's a process. When I met Claudia
Speaker 2: at the gay bar and I said I want you
Speaker 2: to be a housewife, Claudia had to go through a
Speaker 2: series of interviews. It wasn't a shoe in. She had
Speaker 2: to go to multiple interviews. She didn't have to go
Speaker 2: on tape, go on tape again, we have to see
Speaker 2: her house. She had to send photos to talk again.
Speaker 2: Then she had to get co signed by Kenya as
Speaker 2: are y'all really friends? Can you say we are friends?
Speaker 2: Then she had to film for free and get her footwear.
Speaker 1: It's a process.
Speaker 2: So when Shamiah was approached, the reason why it didn't
Speaker 2: go as far as it could have because.
Speaker 1: Shamiah is everything.
Speaker 2: The reason why Shamiah's position never went further than what
Speaker 2: it could have been is because at that time, on
Speaker 2: the show.
Speaker 1: If you were married, your husband had to be on
Speaker 1: the show.
Speaker 2: There was no your husband's on episode one and we
Speaker 2: see him on YouTube.
Speaker 1: That was never the case.
Speaker 2: So the this is listen, I'm an let's have real conversation.
Speaker 2: The goal post was moved. The goal post was moved.
Speaker 2: So when Shamiah got the opportunity to come on the
Speaker 2: show this season, it.
Speaker 4: Didn't okay, in her defense, didn't portion us like recommend
Speaker 4: her at one point, like, okay, your best friend.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm a recommend her.
Speaker 4: But it's probably never gonna happen because I know for
Speaker 4: a fact her man doesn't want to do it. You
Speaker 4: could throw it out there, but then probably in your
Speaker 4: wildest dreams, never thought it would really ever happen because
Speaker 4: her husband was so firm with it. Maybe that could
Speaker 4: have been what happened, but then it ended up happening
Speaker 4: when she got on. Anyways, and maybe she's not feeling it.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 8: My thing is the idea of Shmia being a housewife
Speaker 8: is not new right in the context of their friendship.
Speaker 8: So I wonder is that really the reason why they're
Speaker 8: having these issues now? Because to me is a housewife,
Speaker 8: I mean, it's not a new idea. It's not a
Speaker 8: new concept. It's something that I believe they've talked about before.
Speaker 3: If there's been.
Speaker 8: An interest, right like serious interests multiple seasons prior, they
Speaker 8: have had to have had a conversation about this. So
Speaker 8: I don't know if it's just the actual, you know,
Speaker 8: feeling of her being seen with her seeing her tangibly
Speaker 8: a part of this cast that is triggering Porsche in
Speaker 8: a I don't know what kind of deep seated issues
Speaker 8: are materializing because of this, but something is going on.
Speaker 8: And as you can see, the other day, Porsche made
Speaker 8: a post on Instagram that she deleted where she basically
Speaker 8: issued a center warning, shout out shot, excuse me out
Speaker 8: to Shemiyah about having conversations about their moms on camera
Speaker 8: and whatever issues their moms have had in their friendship.
Speaker 8: So that's some deep, old school, family rooted shit that
Speaker 8: goes back way far beyond these cameras, and that's the
Speaker 8: work that they have to get done. I don't know
Speaker 8: if if they don't have those types of conversations, I
Speaker 8: don't know if they'll be able to make something as
Speaker 8: simple as them being cash members work.
Speaker 4: I don't know, you know, that's saying they say like
Speaker 4: people want you to do people want you to do well,
Speaker 4: but not better than them and something like that. Right,
Speaker 4: I think when she said, oh, you know, she knows
Speaker 4: she's gonna come on, but think about it. The return
Speaker 4: of Porsche to Housewives was supposed to be the huge
Speaker 4: return for Porsche back to the A lot of Housewives,
Speaker 4: where everything was going to be said around her life,
Speaker 4: her her you know, her divorce with Simon and all
Speaker 4: the messinists that all the questions that we were left
Speaker 4: hanging with when Porsche and ceremoniously left back in the day,
Speaker 4: right left, leaving us all to not really get answers
Speaker 4: about it. Right, So when she's coming back, it was
Speaker 4: definitely billed as this was there was one supposed to
Speaker 4: be Porsche's show. She was gonna be the new needie
Speaker 4: right of the show. So I think she really thought that,
Speaker 4: you know, of course, yeah, I don't care if she
Speaker 4: comes on the show. It ain't gonnaffect me. I'm the
Speaker 4: queen Bee. Oh this is still my thing. It ain't
Speaker 4: gonna hurt me either way. But then right before when
Speaker 4: the rug up pulled out from underneath, Simon put a
Speaker 4: stop and was being patty I think he kind of mess.
Speaker 5: Up her season. Uh, now your worst nightmare has come true.
Speaker 5: She's on and now all the fans are saying, oh
Speaker 5: my god, she's the it girl. She's the girl. In
Speaker 5: the first few weeks, we even thought.
Speaker 4: That about Smir, right, we were like, yo, Sami and
Speaker 4: Shamie is Shamir before Angela oagly pulled them from So
Speaker 4: I'm sure that caused some tension. When you know, you
Speaker 4: can tell when the producers are hot for someone else,
Speaker 4: you're hearing about all the days they're filming, they're doing
Speaker 4: events around their life and at their house, and maybe
Speaker 4: that made her feel a different way, like it's almost like, yeah,
Speaker 4: let me bring on my show and then you end
Speaker 4: up shining more than me on my show. I can
Speaker 4: understand how you might feel away nothing is right, but
Speaker 4: I understand the you know, I understand how Porsche could feel.
Speaker 5: A way nothing is right. But maybe that's what happened.
Speaker 5: Maybe that's what happened.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Maymi, what do you think.
Speaker 7: I just said?
Speaker 6: I just said that the fact that Porscha in what's
Speaker 6: going on in her life is kind of dissipated and
Speaker 6: Shamia has the family, the husband, you know, everything fabulous
Speaker 6: and is able to do. What she's doing is causing
Speaker 6: a friction in their friendship and the dynamic is shifting,
Speaker 6: and now it's.
Speaker 7: This thing between them.
Speaker 6: So yeah, I know, I'm positive Porsche feels some type
Speaker 6: of way and Shemia's just like, hey girl, I'm just
Speaker 6: doing what I do. But Porscha is like, damn, you know,
Speaker 6: so it's causing this this thing between them.
Speaker 4: She thought Shemi was gonna come on as a support
Speaker 4: for her storyline, not as to overlap her and you know,
Speaker 4: eclipse her, although it was in the beginning, but not
Speaker 4: really now.
Speaker 2: I also think to listen also think it's the fact
Speaker 2: that Listen shout out to Angela Oakley.
Speaker 1: I give props her due.
Speaker 2: In my opinion, I think Angela Oakley saw an opportunity
Speaker 2: when she saw those girls laugh and she said, I got.
Speaker 1: One better for you.
Speaker 2: The next episode she said, hey, Porsicha, Shemiah said this
Speaker 2: about you.
Speaker 1: I think it's the fact that.
Speaker 2: They brought this issue to the forefront and now they're
Speaker 2: forced to deal with it because Angela, and this is no.
Speaker 1: Shade to her.
Speaker 2: Angela did her job as a housewife and made sure
Speaker 2: to be a force multiplier, and she knew some tea
Speaker 2: about their friendship and said, I'm gonna get y'all back,
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna get y'all back in a very different,
Speaker 2: unique way, and she did. We would not know any
Speaker 2: of this it's happening. I don't want to be clear.
Speaker 2: The only reason we know there's issues between SMI and
Speaker 2: Porsche is because Angela told us what Shamia said as
Speaker 2: she was pink and swearing.
Speaker 7: She played chess.
Speaker 8: She played chess, a masterful performance as a first season housewife, masterful.
Speaker 3: She literally blew that shit all the way up.
Speaker 8: The minute she saw them outside talking shit about her,
Speaker 8: she was like, Okay, y'all want to play, let's play.
Speaker 8: And ultimately that makes for great television, right. The problem
Speaker 8: is that there's a real life, real world impact that
Speaker 8: has fractured a real relationship. It's not fodder for the
Speaker 8: show type shit. But that's what happens when you put
Speaker 8: yourself in that position, when you say things like she
Speaker 8: better be got on fuck our man, and the other
Speaker 8: person is laughing and nobody really gives a fuck. You
Speaker 8: know what I'm saying, This is what you end up with.
Speaker 8: They didn't know how Angela was gonna come back, and
Speaker 8: she played that game so quiet and smooth.
Speaker 3: She put that tennis skirt on it.
Speaker 8: Advisor put their wig in a pony tail sets with
Speaker 8: their rental PROPRIENCEI Shamiah feels like it may be a
Speaker 8: lopsided important on her face like this.
Speaker 4: She then she shows up in this last episode with
Speaker 4: Cynthia and and Porsche like nothing ever happened. We would
Speaker 4: never know, Like just last two weeks ago that she
Speaker 4: Portia was talking about fucking her husband and Angelas is
Speaker 4: playing the long game.
Speaker 5: She's like, oh yeah, oh it's all good. We're moving on. Yo.
Speaker 4: You Angela very high IQ, very high Reality TV IQ
Speaker 4: very Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, she clocked it. She clocked it, so listen.
Speaker 2: I will say this all jokes aside and I and
Speaker 2: I do mean this. Shamia and Porsche. What I did
Speaker 2: see last night is there's still love there. They're still
Speaker 2: love there, and in my opinion, they have history, and
Speaker 2: it's their history to me that's keeping them together. I
Speaker 2: think when you look at both of their lives and
Speaker 2: I'm somebody who lived in Atlanta and I know a
Speaker 2: lot about this. There, Portia and Shamia are in two
Speaker 2: very different friend groups, and there's nothing wrong with that
Speaker 2: because who you bond with at thirteen barring blue magic
Speaker 2: hair Greeks for your edges, liking liking the same member
Speaker 2: of New Edition, those are very different things you have
Speaker 2: in common than when you are in your forties. And
Speaker 2: I think if Portia and Shamia really said down, had
Speaker 2: a real conversation, their friendship is based on the numerical
Speaker 2: nature of how long they've known each other. Because as
Speaker 2: somebody who knows how Atlanta friend groups work. And we'll
Speaker 2: talk about that another time, Chaka as a whole episode,
Speaker 2: Claudia and dusn't a.
Speaker 7: Me me, Me me.
Speaker 2: You know that for me and me and my liar,
Speaker 2: Atlanta friendships are very clique girl MEMI. Okay, Like I said,
Speaker 2: I think Porscha Shami should sit down and say we
Speaker 2: will always have love for each other and let's find
Speaker 2: a way of being respectful. But this idea, because listen,
Speaker 2: it's unfortunate that the audience is taking this best friend
Speaker 2: word to seriously. I Carlos King, do not think for
Speaker 2: a second that they are best friends based on what
Speaker 2: best friends mean. I think they have known each other
Speaker 2: for thirty years. They love each other. But if Porscha
Speaker 2: moved to Idaho and Shemiah moved to North Dakota, they'll
Speaker 2: speak three s.
Speaker 4: I think that Shamiah was Porscha's was the best friend
Speaker 4: to Porsha. I think Porsia is a best friend to
Speaker 4: nobody but money and men. Honestly, if I'm being real,
Speaker 4: we see opportunity getting the way of that. I definitely
Speaker 4: feel like Shamiah is showing like you know, she she's
Speaker 4: I think she's very hurt. But again, I think she's
Speaker 4: been in the beta position that friendship and Portia is
Speaker 4: not willing to see her on her level. That's what
Speaker 4: I think. And yeah, I think there's a lot of
Speaker 4: nostalgia between the two. Yeah, we've been friends since nineteen
Speaker 4: eighty one or whatever year they were. I don't know
Speaker 4: when they were born, but I think there is nostalgia.
Speaker 4: But I do think that one was definitely more of
Speaker 4: her friend to the other. And I think for Simia
Speaker 4: finally got sick of it and that's what made her
Speaker 4: feel like it was okay to talk badly about her
Speaker 4: friend or share a tea with about her friend to
Speaker 4: new friends.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 8: One percent to me is she has maxed out basically,
Speaker 8: And that's why she had them jeans that was busting
Speaker 8: out like that, because she's busting at the scene right now.
Speaker 3: You know what.
Speaker 8: I that's why she had them jeans on that ass
Speaker 8: tied up in them jeans like that, because she's busting
Speaker 8: at the scene.
Speaker 3: She has fucking head. You can only take yeah when
Speaker 3: they put up that sit down.
Speaker 8: Remember she had on them one cheek to cheese jeans
Speaker 8: with them laces in the yeah, yeah, up in there.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I thought it was great.
Speaker 8: But she's bursting at the seams like that with her
Speaker 8: real feelings. And good for her, because there's nothing that
Speaker 8: feels better than finally getting some shit off your chest
Speaker 8: that really.
Speaker 3: You or your bud or your bud.
Speaker 8: Soon as she got in the car and the streams
Speaker 8: was like, you know, say, she relaxed as soon as
Speaker 8: she got in the car.
Speaker 3: But I don't know. That's a lot of work.
Speaker 8: I also think that, especially as an adult, when you
Speaker 8: get into a certain age and certain stage of life,
Speaker 8: friendships should not require that much work. And if I
Speaker 8: have to explain to you that you have to respect me,
Speaker 8: then that means that there's a severe misalignment here, and
Speaker 8: maybe we don't need to be friends, and that doesn't
Speaker 8: always have to be a messy, nasty break.
Speaker 3: Sometimes you can just make a decision. I'm gonna go write.
Speaker 4: Once you saw a little girl in your friend, or
Speaker 4: you feel like you're getting little girls a little boy
Speaker 4: by your friend, the respect is gone, The respect is gone,
Speaker 4: Like you should never feel that way about it. Front
Speaker 4: like I have to always be on defense. Oh let
Speaker 4: me have one of the chamber of kids. You come
Speaker 4: at me today.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's not a friend, that's not a friendship.
Speaker 3: That's a motherfucker.
Speaker 6: You know, Claudie and I literally have never had an argument.
Speaker 6: Never in twenty seven years. We've never had an argument.
Speaker 6: We've always respected each other. We've always you know, felt
Speaker 6: like we were here all the time, every step of
Speaker 6: the way. We grew with each other. She didn't outgrow me,
Speaker 6: I didn't outgrow her. It was a mutual respect our
Speaker 6: entire relationship. And I think that's why we have lasted
Speaker 6: and been, you know, the type of friends that we
Speaker 6: are today.
Speaker 4: Never even a raising of the voice, not one, not
Speaker 4: one time. So it is possible, y'all. And there have
Speaker 4: been times where we were in different levels career wise financially,
Speaker 4: where maybe I'm here, she's there, and vice versa, where
Speaker 4: I'm here and she's there. And it didn't change the
Speaker 4: friendship because our friendship wasn't based on being on television.
Speaker 4: Our friendship is based on you. You funny like yo.
Speaker 4: I remember back in the day, Mimi had me and
Speaker 4: some shit. I almost got arrested by the Federal Allies.
Speaker 4: And I should have been mad at her. I should
Speaker 4: have cussed her us out when the DEA came to
Speaker 4: see me, but I did not. Agents came to see me,
Speaker 4: but I did not. We still stay cool.
Speaker 5: We used humor, We laugh about things. We you know.
Speaker 4: I remember Mimi when no one throw her baby shower
Speaker 4: for when she was pregnant with Eva. Me and Alta,
Speaker 4: who introduced us, we went to Mimi's place and we
Speaker 4: surprised her. That's when Steve didn't have a car. He
Speaker 4: was real nice and humble. He was making food for
Speaker 4: you because he had nowhere. He couldn't even drive nowhere
Speaker 4: because he was driving your car. Anyways, we went and
Speaker 4: brought a baby shower to you. That's what real friends
Speaker 4: are for. It ain't about like what level who's on
Speaker 4: what it's not about that like it had, our friendship
Speaker 4: has had nothing to do with status, nothing to do
Speaker 4: with status. If your friendship is based on that, you're
Speaker 4: not in a friendship. You're in a business relationship or
Speaker 4: your co stars.
Speaker 5: That's it.
Speaker 3: You make a great point.
Speaker 8: There's a difference between a regular dishriy agreement that you
Speaker 8: can have with a person. Right But when we arguing
Speaker 8: about how you look at me, how you value me,
Speaker 8: or if you don't value me, like we know about
Speaker 8: that kind of shit, pull the plug, you know what
Speaker 8: I'm saying, Because there's certain things that should just be
Speaker 8: understood in general. If we're friends, we respect each other,
Speaker 8: We show up at a certain level, we support each other.
Speaker 3: That's what you do.
Speaker 8: Anytime that we're arguing about whether or not you treat
Speaker 8: me like unvaluable, fuck.
Speaker 3: That like what, we don't even need to talk no more.
Speaker 8: That's how I feel some with you, me and me,
Speaker 8: I'd have got my shoes and got the fuck out
Speaker 8: of there.
Speaker 5: Face like okay, Claudia, that's enough.
Speaker 2: But seriously, I want to get to two more things
Speaker 2: before we we In this live there were tons of
Speaker 2: conversations I watched an episode a couple of times to
Speaker 2: prepare for tonight, there were conversations about the dynamic between
Speaker 2: Angela and Charles.
Speaker 1: There was a scene that took place in this episode.
Speaker 2: Angela was like you love me, give me kids, blah
Speaker 2: blah blah, and Charles with nonchalot. The audience on Twitter
Speaker 2: felt that Charles is not into Angela. I didn't call
Speaker 2: me the minority in the situation. I didn't look at
Speaker 2: it that way. I think for my I don't know Charles.
Speaker 2: I'm basing this off of the show. I think Charles
Speaker 2: is heavily sarcastic. I think Charles reminds me a lot
Speaker 2: of my father, like the old school black man who's
Speaker 2: just you know. They they're very nonchalant in nature, and
Speaker 2: I think that's the dynamic of Angela and Charles's marriage.
Speaker 2: But a lot of people are saying rid flags to
Speaker 2: match Angela's red dress.
Speaker 1: Did y'all see Charles and Angela's dynamic as a concern?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 7: No, I did not.
Speaker 6: If anybody has been around Charles in the past, he's
Speaker 6: a very nonchalant person period, Like you know, he's just late,
Speaker 6: he's laid back. So this is the first we're seeing
Speaker 6: of them people, you have to know who you're who
Speaker 6: you're who the players are laid.
Speaker 7: He's not all.
Speaker 6: You know I think, yes from back in the day. Yes, Yeah,
Speaker 6: that's he's not. He's not being anything other than himself.
Speaker 8: First of all, that's her husband, right, they've been married
Speaker 8: for a long time and he's fully appearing, fully filming
Speaker 8: with her. He wants her to have the spotlight like
Speaker 8: in their scene, in their scenes, excuse me, like his
Speaker 8: personality shows, but he's not trying.
Speaker 3: To steal the spotlight from her. He loves that woman.
Speaker 8: He's filming with her, he's contributing to her, contribution to
Speaker 8: the show in a way that is great. And I think,
Speaker 8: just like Carlo said, he's sarcastic, a shit talker, you
Speaker 8: know what I'm saying. And they have that kind of
Speaker 8: banter with with with each other other. They go back
Speaker 8: and forth. But I don't think that it indicates nor
Speaker 8: reflects a break or a red flag in their marriage.
Speaker 8: Their relationship is just fine. He's just talking shit. He
Speaker 8: don't care about this TV shit. That man is an
Speaker 8: NBA legend, you know what I'm saying. This is just
Speaker 8: another project to him that his wife is doing so
Speaker 8: he's not even fully invested in I'm assuming these are
Speaker 8: all assumptions, right, but based on what we've seen, I'm
Speaker 8: assuming he's not invested like that in the show, and
Speaker 8: he figures when the cameras come on, let's talk a
Speaker 8: little shit, let's be playful with each other. And she
Speaker 8: doesn't seem to be offended by it at all. She
Speaker 8: feels completely secure in her relationship. So I'm here for it.
Speaker 8: I like it. Charles Oakley is funny to me.
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna lie at first because I love Angel
Speaker 4: so much, and she was like, ooh, Like, I just
Speaker 4: understand how those scenes will be misinterpreted by people if
Speaker 4: you're not familiar with their relationship. Now again, I got
Speaker 4: to use a personal example when I did I did
Speaker 4: a reality show with kJ right and.
Speaker 5: We got raped.
Speaker 3: No, it was a couple, right, I'm we were.
Speaker 4: In a really good place and we went on that show,
Speaker 4: right like we were cool. We just honestly went on
Speaker 4: there to get money. Okay, we were like, we're fine, right,
Speaker 4: But in one scene, yeah, and at the time, we
Speaker 4: weren't having electric sex at the time because we were
Speaker 4: three years.
Speaker 5: In right, and it was kind of like and we
Speaker 5: went through COVID.
Speaker 4: We just got out of COVID whereagon you know, we
Speaker 4: just sat around eating food stuff on our face every day. Anyways,
Speaker 4: long term show, we talked to each other kind of
Speaker 4: like like like we talked shit to each other, and
Speaker 4: and outside of looking and hearing us for the first time,
Speaker 4: we'd be like yo. But then he's also helped me
Speaker 4: take tracks out. He's also clipping my cat's toenails. He's
Speaker 4: also giving me back, rubbing my dry ass, tore up heels,
Speaker 4: putting lotion on my feet after he puts the lotion
Speaker 4: in the microwave, like you don't see that but on TV.
Speaker 4: So when there was a scene in the show where
Speaker 4: they asked if he was physically sexually attracted me at
Speaker 4: the time, Now I was feeling no the time, and
Speaker 4: he would feeling no the time. I lied to try
Speaker 4: to protect him on TV, he didn't and everyone hated him.
Speaker 4: Everyone thought that I was with the man that even
Speaker 4: the comments I seen some people, you was with a
Speaker 4: man that didn't even want you pus see No, you
Speaker 4: gotta understand there's different kinds of relationships. There's some people
Speaker 4: go on TV and be at a piano and act
Speaker 4: like they're so in love and talk that shit me
Speaker 4: me right, Like there's men that do with that performative bullshit,
Speaker 4: but then they'll treat you fucked up. Then there's guys
Speaker 4: that may come off rough around the edges like that.
Speaker 4: But she understands her man sense to him, and I
Speaker 4: don't think Angel would have him on there if he
Speaker 4: was really meaning that.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 4: I didn't like it at first outside looking at him,
Speaker 4: but then I had to think, No, there's a lot
Speaker 4: of relationships like that, and like Dustin said, they don't
Speaker 4: pay those guys any money. This is a multi millionaire
Speaker 4: legend from the NBA who's like, girl, I guess I'll
Speaker 4: come shoot today. I don't care about this shit. So
Speaker 4: he's going but like dragging his feet, like, ugh, whatever,
Speaker 4: I gotta hear about girl gossip. Do you think Charles
Speaker 4: Oakly wants to gives a shit about what Shamia and
Speaker 4: Portia and Kelly and brit You don't give a shit
Speaker 4: about that. But he's in, he's there, and he's showing up.
Speaker 4: Is showing you he's supporting his wife?
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, she's showing up and I give him all
Speaker 2: the prosper that. Okay, So next topic of conversation.
Speaker 7: He's still aware.
Speaker 1: Sorry, Claudia does to to BB. I'm just having fun tonight.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I want to get to Juice Dora and
Speaker 2: Ralph's scene, not I'm sorry. Rap wasn't in the scene.
Speaker 2: Juice So Dora is going through a divorce with Ralph.
Speaker 2: There was a scene between her and her mother. What
Speaker 2: we did learned this episode is that Ralph wants forty
Speaker 2: percent of Juice So Dora's company, which is jus So
Speaker 2: Dora Llc.
Speaker 1: That she says she started before she even.
Speaker 2: Was married to Ralph. Ralph feels like he should have
Speaker 2: ownership with it. Drew's mother stated in this episode that
Speaker 2: their divorce is having an impact on the kids and
Speaker 2: how the kids are acting out so much so that Mom,
Speaker 2: the grandmother, said they're even acting out to me, the grandmother,
Speaker 2: and that never happens. Druse Door broke down, left the scene,
Speaker 2: and it goes to show you what was going on
Speaker 2: in this Ralph was not able to defend himself in
Speaker 2: the episode, but Honey Bunny Rap did defend himself on Twitter.
Speaker 1: Rap did a series of tweets.
Speaker 2: He did mention that he wanted Druse Dora's mother to
Speaker 2: pretty much keep her his name out of her mouth
Speaker 2: because he was there for her when she took all
Speaker 2: of her husband's money and needed something. Juse Dora's father
Speaker 2: is now deceased. Juic So Dora retweeted and said, to
Speaker 2: keep her father's name out of it and her mother's.
Speaker 2: And you're doing a good job playing a victim. He said,
Speaker 2: you did too, and then dru so Dor said, you're
Speaker 2: doing a good job holding a peach. Based on that
Speaker 2: entire dynamic, do you think Ralph deserves of Drew's company?
Speaker 2: I want to start with Claudia.
Speaker 5: Hell no, no, I don't.
Speaker 4: That's very corny, Like you're not getting forty percent of
Speaker 4: my companies? Why why do you need for That's the
Speaker 4: company she had before they got together, isn't it. No,
Speaker 4: absolutely not, just like she shouldn't get forty percent of
Speaker 4: his what he had before her. I've always been a
Speaker 4: believer of that, Like you do not take stuff that
Speaker 4: I built and acquired before you came in the picture.
Speaker 5: Absolutely not.
Speaker 4: Now you can talk about in a marriage, there's marital
Speaker 4: assets that you can maybe have a conversation about that,
Speaker 4: But before I even married, absolutely Now, can you imagine
Speaker 4: all the work that all of us are done on
Speaker 4: this panel.
Speaker 5: We marry so and tomorrow and they say.
Speaker 4: I get forty percent of what I got, you got
Speaker 4: before E got.
Speaker 5: No. No, he's being patty at this point.
Speaker 6: Me, me, I don't know the details of this situation.
Speaker 6: How long did she have the company before they got married?
Speaker 7: Do we know these details?
Speaker 2: She said that she had it before they were married.
Speaker 2: They got married five months after dating.
Speaker 6: Of her company. If this was something that they've been
Speaker 6: working on throughout the course of their marriage, and they've
Speaker 6: been married for nine ten years together and he has
Speaker 6: helped her every step of the way with her career,
Speaker 6: which is to my understanding, you know that that that
Speaker 6: probably was the situation. I think he might be entitled
Speaker 6: to some of it, maybe not forty percent, but something
Speaker 6: if he's been there and been the backbone of the
Speaker 6: situation the entire time.
Speaker 8: This is why there are resources and things available to
Speaker 8: people like prenuptial agreements to iron all this kind of
Speaker 8: dumb shit out in the first place, Especially by the
Speaker 8: time they were coupled. Drew was fully in the business
Speaker 8: of being Drusidora right, and so she should have known
Speaker 8: better than to protect herself, you know, and I than
Speaker 8: to not be protected in that way. I thought that
Speaker 8: was some real emotion from Drew for once that we
Speaker 8: got on the show, when she was crying about her children.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. She was sensitive about that.
Speaker 8: And I don't have kids, but I can imagine anybody
Speaker 8: with kids would be sensitive when you're discussing the way
Speaker 8: that they're reacting to a change in the home like that.
Speaker 3: And so I thought, you know, on some g shit.
Speaker 8: I didn't think it was appropriate for him to be
Speaker 8: talking shit about her mama online. To me, it was
Speaker 8: completely ineffective. All he was doing was speaking to the
Speaker 8: audience and fueling gossip and rumors and driving that engine
Speaker 8: of negativity that has really harmed his marriage in the
Speaker 8: first place. So he shouldn't have been smarter than that.
Speaker 8: He should have been a more mature I'm sure his
Speaker 8: emotions are running high too, though, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 8: And so this is just what we end up with.
Speaker 8: I would like to see you and her mama discuss
Speaker 8: Drew as a person who she is. That's what I
Speaker 8: would like to see you and her mom discuss on camera.
Speaker 8: We all know her mom is she works in ministry,
Speaker 8: I believe, and she's a pastor or a spiritual advisor
Speaker 8: or something like that. What would be good for the
Speaker 8: fans to sy is Drew having a come to Jesus
Speaker 8: moment with her mama, like, Mama, this is who I am.
Speaker 8: These are some of the decisions that I've made, and
Speaker 8: this is the woman that I am today, and I'm
Speaker 8: gonna walk in those shoes fully, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 8: We haven't seen that. So when Drew decides to be
Speaker 8: real about the way that she feels emotion connected to
Speaker 8: her kids dealing with this divorce, that's great, But we
Speaker 8: still don't know who Drew is because Drew be lying
Speaker 8: all the time on the show.
Speaker 3: That's just the reality of it. So that little.
Speaker 8: Slim glamor of honesty was great and it was real
Speaker 8: and we appreciated it because it's very vulnerable to share.
Speaker 8: But I'm not interested in no conversations between Drew and
Speaker 8: her mama, to be honest with you, I'm not.
Speaker 2: Are you interested in a conversation between Drew and Wrap
Speaker 2: as it relates to what's been going on on social media?
Speaker 1: So I want to get your thoughts on this.
Speaker 2: So they didn't have this beef on social media that
Speaker 2: occurred last night, just based on everything that Ralph has
Speaker 2: said about Drew last week, he intimated that he filed
Speaker 2: for divorce because Drew allegedly was messing around with Tie,
Speaker 2: which is Mimi Files, his ex girlfriend. When we did
Speaker 2: speak about that last week, Claudia Jordan made a very
Speaker 2: poignant statement that left me and Dustin Ross.
Speaker 1: We gagged. Claudia Jordan alleged that Tie.
Speaker 2: Your former girlfriend, Mimi, is an opportunist and that she
Speaker 2: only dates women on reality television, and that she did
Speaker 2: say to you and y'all were friends, that you need
Speaker 2: to watch out for her. She's not the right one
Speaker 2: for you. I don't feel good about her. We are
Speaker 2: watching Basketball Wives this season, which, by the way, Basketball
Speaker 2: Wives is great this season for those who watched a
Speaker 2: really good season. Mimi, have you watched Basketball Wives? Okay,
Speaker 2: I'll take what happened? So on basketball.
Speaker 1: Quaudia, here we go, shifting gears. So on Basketball watch
Speaker 1: this season.
Speaker 2: I'd love it this Seasonmingleminglely and Tye used to date.
Speaker 2: And she saw on Ty's phone that she was calling
Speaker 2: Juice of Door for fifty hours and she acts, Siri
Speaker 2: or her Apple iPhone sixteen pro macs. What is no
Speaker 2: we speak on hundred and seventy minutes?
Speaker 1: What are those in hours? Siri said, girl, that's fifty.
Speaker 1: That's beit the Avas child and Ty said that they.
Speaker 2: Had conversation because she was going through a divorce. You know,
Speaker 2: Claudia thinks Ties an opportunists? Do you Mimi Files being
Speaker 2: in a relationship with her for how long was it?
Speaker 7: Almost seven years?
Speaker 2: You were in a relationship with Tie for seven years?
Speaker 2: It's Tie an opportunist who only dates women who are
Speaker 2: famous because of a come up after me, Yes.
Speaker 7: I was her step on the ladder, and now it's yes.
Speaker 1: Why do you feel that way?
Speaker 6: Look at it the whole situation with Drew and I
Speaker 6: know they want to say they're just friends, but I
Speaker 6: know different. And then hanging around Drew, here comes me
Speaker 6: and then me and now Basketball Wives and it's just
Speaker 6: you know, it's just a stepping up that ladder.
Speaker 4: Girl, she's been all three franchises, like she's found Vagon
Speaker 4: on all three, like she found Basketball Wives, loving hip
Speaker 4: Hop and Atlanta Housewives.
Speaker 5: Like she's like, no, I'm not going to make my joke,
Speaker 5: but she's.
Speaker 7: Tigging them around, clauding her.
Speaker 5: It was really hard to do it.
Speaker 4: I'll say what I was gonna say in the group
Speaker 4: chat with you guys after this.
Speaker 2: So when it when it when it, when it comes
Speaker 2: to to tie, do you think ty Ever really loved you?
Speaker 7: Yeah? I think she did.
Speaker 6: I also think she had you know, she had her
Speaker 6: reasons why, you know, I'll tell you this, And I
Speaker 6: should have taken heed when when when it was given
Speaker 6: to me. But like early on in our relationship, she
Speaker 6: told me that she was a fan of mine. This
Speaker 6: is when we were already we had already started dating.
Speaker 6: So if someone, if someone that you're dating, reviews to
Speaker 6: you that they were a fan of yours mm hmm.
Speaker 6: She told me she was watching the show with her
Speaker 6: girlfriend and the girl and he's like, is this going
Speaker 6: to be a problem.
Speaker 5: Oh, somebody said t is gonna be on Huntsville next.
Speaker 3: Why would Carlos far out.
Speaker 5: Left love and married Detroit tie tie Christina, Oh there's
Speaker 5: a new divorce. Let me swoop on in and get
Speaker 5: with someone divorce. Let me be your comforted girlfriend.
Speaker 2: I would like to end by saying this tomorrow, I
Speaker 2: am dropped.
Speaker 5: She's gonna vb one day. You're a big motherfucker too.
Speaker 5: She's like six two ninety.
Speaker 1: I'll watch you basketball eyes and listen.
Speaker 2: I bet Tie because Memi is my friend in real life,
Speaker 2: so I met her once.
Speaker 1: Ty Ty has tie. Ty has swag and tie for sure. Listen.
Speaker 2: I don't like women, obviously I have she How can
Speaker 2: I describe it? She has this appeal, thank you, thank you, Dustin,
Speaker 2: Tie is very charismatic. I'm watching her basketball lives and
Speaker 2: it's she's very charismatic.
Speaker 5: Like Dustin said, she showed this is the third reality show.
Speaker 5: I mean, she's a veteran at this point, she's.
Speaker 1: She's damn man, New York's.
Speaker 4: Level this point, she's been on more shows in New York,
Speaker 4: like what the hell new York is the queen of
Speaker 4: reality TV. That's a shade in New York because she's
Speaker 4: the queen.
Speaker 1: Tie is the queen of reality television.
Speaker 7: Damn man, He's a veteran. Now franchises who was.
Speaker 4: Then answer that the like multiple sports was at be
Speaker 4: like both both bo ne mine, I'm asking the wrong people.
Speaker 8: They were a football player Wana Leonard, the lady that
Speaker 8: was married to Sugar Ray Leonard, and football baseball player.
Speaker 8: Is she married? She was married to a lot of.
Speaker 1: Bo Jackson.
Speaker 5: He did baseball football.
Speaker 4: Ty has been a more reality show than bo Bo
Speaker 4: Jackson has been in sports. Tye is the bo Jackson
Speaker 4: of reality show relationships to women.
Speaker 5: It's crazy. I need to get a gun.
Speaker 4: But I'm gonna get a gun by the way, and
Speaker 4: ty if you come over here, I know you be
Speaker 4: in Dallas a lot. I got a baseball bat by
Speaker 4: the door, and it's a right.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 5: Someone to come to me. I don't want to come
Speaker 5: beat me up. Ty is fine.
Speaker 1: I think Tye is cool enough.
Speaker 5: I don't like me. I don't like me right me.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know, I know, But I
Speaker 1: will say this.
Speaker 2: I am dropping my exclusive interview tomorrow and I am
Speaker 2: drum roll listen forks please, I'm dropping my exclusive rain
Speaker 2: drops tomorrow with I sit down with Drew so Doora
Speaker 2: and she answers every single question.
Speaker 3: JU do.
Speaker 1: Truthfully.
Speaker 2: I asked her about Ti, I asked about Ralph. We
Speaker 2: spoke about the girls on the show. We spoke about
Speaker 2: me feeling early on that she was acting on the show.
Speaker 1: We get to everything.
Speaker 2: She literally sat down and said, you need to ask
Speaker 2: me everything today so much so Drew so Doorra had
Speaker 2: a a a a booking that was scheduled after our interview.
Speaker 1: She canceled her booking to talk to me more.
Speaker 2: Because she said, after I speak to you, I don't
Speaker 2: want to deal with this anymore. And it was a
Speaker 2: very truthful, honest conversation. I'm dropping that to tomorrow on
Speaker 2: my YouTube channel. Makes y'all suscribe, and she we get
Speaker 2: into it, We get into it, so I can't wait
Speaker 2: for y'all to watch it because I'm pretty sure we'll
Speaker 2: talk about it next Monday.
Speaker 7: Carlos, you do know she's an actress. You do know this, Yes.
Speaker 6: Okay, I just wanted to throw that out there.
Speaker 4: Were you surprised anything in the interview where you gagged
Speaker 4: in the interview where you like, did she tell you
Speaker 4: things that you thought she might lie about this?
Speaker 2: And she actually I was surprised that she was answering
Speaker 2: all my questions. I mean, and and and and and
Speaker 2: and and The one thing Drew did that is rare,
Speaker 2: and interviews you did it to me once. It's rare
Speaker 2: when this happens. Drew Sidora encouraged me to go deeper
Speaker 2: in in the in the conversation. She said, no, let's
Speaker 2: talk about it. And I was like, she said, she said,
Speaker 2: I've been waiting for this for two years. I've canceled interviews.
Speaker 2: I've been waiting on you.
Speaker 1: She said.
Speaker 2: You you are somebody who I feel like give people
Speaker 2: a chance. You humanize people. And she said, I know
Speaker 2: everything you want to ask me. Ask me, and she
Speaker 2: Drew sa Door answered every single question and prolonged the
Speaker 2: interview to make sure she answered every question.
Speaker 5: Why won't any have her on What's What Happens Live?
Speaker 5: Why is she's never been on that show?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think maybe because of scheduling.
Speaker 2: I know she was doing a movie as well, so
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know, but we didn't we
Speaker 2: didn't talk about that, but I do know she's been
Speaker 2: doing movies and this interview happened because she was able
Speaker 2: to have a free time or schedule. Like I said,
Speaker 2: she canceled a booking that was scheduled after mind so listen,
Speaker 2: no shade to the world.
Speaker 1: But Drew is booked and busy.
Speaker 2: But we had a real conversation and I think you
Speaker 2: guys will be pleasantly surprised by the interview.
Speaker 5: Maybe what's that look?
Speaker 3: MEMI?
Speaker 5: What's that look? I know you? What's that look?
Speaker 2: Me? Me?
Speaker 7: Wait?
Speaker 6: I would like to watch the interview and then I
Speaker 6: would like to have a conversation after.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so the thing.
Speaker 2: So I'm dropping the interview tomorrow at ten am. So
Speaker 2: to all of my people who work, please tell your
Speaker 2: boss that you have.
Speaker 1: An important meeting between ten and eleven.
Speaker 2: Put on your headphones and your head scarf to hide it,
Speaker 2: and watch the interview and listen to it, and next
Speaker 2: week we'll talk about it.
Speaker 1: It's ten am Eastern range Robs. So all right, So Claudia,
Speaker 1: me me does.
Speaker 2: Is there anything you guys want to promote before I
Speaker 2: let y'all go?
Speaker 6: Yes, I had a skin care line coming out called
Speaker 6: Old Rainy's Skin.
Speaker 7: Stay tuned for that. It's coming out very soon.
Speaker 6: Facial products, face wash, toner, moisturizer, And that's just for starters.
Speaker 6: And I have a whole host of other things coming
Speaker 6: facial wise, skincare after that.
Speaker 5: That's not all. That's not all.
Speaker 7: That's not all.
Speaker 6: Two things. I had my feet done. I can't wait
Speaker 6: to show you guys my feet. I had my feet done,
Speaker 6: same doctor, that did Claudia's feed. I got brand new feed.
Speaker 6: It's absolutely amazing. But I have a show coming out
Speaker 6: called Cleaning Up My Life. Claudia is the executive producer
Speaker 6: of the show, and it's following my transition from my
Speaker 6: time on television to my time off of television to
Speaker 6: me getting to where I am right now and moving beyond.
Speaker 7: So look forward to that point.
Speaker 5: Yes, so happy for her.
Speaker 1: Congratulations Mimi.
Speaker 2: You know I want to see you in in every
Speaker 2: single aspect of your entire existence, So continue to do that.
Speaker 2: And I love the fact that you're in Claudia, are
Speaker 2: producing shows together because the future of this business is
Speaker 2: doing more independent projects and not waiting for people to
Speaker 2: call you, but for you to do your own doing.
Speaker 2: So I'm proud of you you for that.
Speaker 5: Thank you, and please, producers out there. I know Mimi's
Speaker 5: in Atlanta.
Speaker 4: There's so many people that are shooting films. Please call
Speaker 4: my girl, Mimi. We work together recently on a film,
Speaker 4: and she does her thing. Mimi can act, she can host,
Speaker 4: she's fun, she's very transparent. She's a great person to interview. Like,
Speaker 4: I really want y'all to blow up her line, blow
Speaker 4: up her phones. I need a good representation for her
Speaker 4: in Atlanta. There's a lot of films out there and
Speaker 4: we want to see more of her on our screens
Speaker 4: in all capacities.
Speaker 5: So I think she's really good.
Speaker 7: And that's what friends do.
Speaker 6: Like Claudia has every step of the way, any opportunity
Speaker 6: that she's found, she's put it in my lap.
Speaker 7: That's what friends do. Thank you, friend, you and my.
Speaker 4: Real friend, thank you, and thanks for coming to the play.
Speaker 4: She's at my play this weekend. We had such a
Speaker 4: good time. We get to hang out in Atlanta. Oh yeah, yes,
Speaker 4: I told him, marn I'm like, y'all need to use
Speaker 4: me on something. I told Ja Carries. The play is over.
Speaker 4: It was My last city was last night in Charlotte.
Speaker 4: I'm so exhausted. But it was a great run. And
Speaker 4: shout out to Jakarius Johnson, carl Paying, the entire cast.
Speaker 5: It was so good. It was. It was a good time.
Speaker 5: Demetria is on there as well.
Speaker 4: She did her thing, Jill, Marie Jones, Flex, Alexander Brian J. White,
Speaker 4: who else, uh Naomi Brocker. It's the whole cast is
Speaker 4: just really really good. And my podcast on Wednesdays with
Speaker 4: Erica accidentally informed, and now I'm looking for my next
Speaker 4: gig like I'm I'm I have time now, so I'm
Speaker 4: looking if I'm my next gig.
Speaker 5: I think i've this produced. I know Carlos King like
Speaker 5: you need to do something in Dallas. We talked about it,
Speaker 5: but we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Dastin, what you got going on.
Speaker 8: Well, right now I have my thinking cap on because
Speaker 8: that would be dope, A hot single girl show in
Speaker 8: Dallas about Claudia and all her dope ass homegirls.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. With that Kingdom Rain Entertainments.
Speaker 4: Down, he got the dead, he got the deck.
Speaker 8: Yeah, listen, I'm very excited. You can go to Dustin
Speaker 8: rosslive dot com and see all my upcoming tour days
Speaker 8: for my stand up comedy tour, We're kicking things off
Speaker 8: May thirty first in Seattle. Then we're going to La Chicago,
Speaker 8: Saint Louis, Philly, d C. San Frien, Atlanta, and we
Speaker 8: got two more shows We're about to announce that people
Speaker 8: are going to be excited about.
Speaker 3: So I'm happy right now.
Speaker 8: I was trying out all my jokes and the ubers
Speaker 8: and shit when I was in La and all their
Speaker 8: shoulders were shaking.
Speaker 3: They was laughing. You know what I'm saying. So looking
Speaker 3: forward to that. Fuck with me.
Speaker 8: Go to Dustin Rosslive dot com, pull up and get
Speaker 8: your laugh on.
Speaker 3: Have a great night.
Speaker 8: Congratulations to you ladies on your new project. I love
Speaker 8: seeing you do your thing. Claudia Carlos, congratulations to you
Speaker 8: on every damn thing. Because I didn't get to speak
Speaker 8: on it earlier. But the Loving Ah Detroit Reunion Part
Speaker 8: two is incredible, so we definitely have to talk about
Speaker 8: that soon.
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's what's up with me.
Speaker 4: We can't wait to go see your show, Dustin. Are
Speaker 4: we still on for d c Carlos, Yes we are.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't wait.
Speaker 3: And I'm glad we're Carlos.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have no listen to be able to to
Speaker 2: be able to be in the faces of you two
Speaker 2: in person, and you know, and we're all gonna be
Speaker 2: there maybe the other so we can.
Speaker 3: Do over there you never know, why not, let's do
Speaker 3: it m M again.
Speaker 5: I'm sensing myself, Carlos, I'm growing.
Speaker 2: Quarter is the only person about life that makes me
Speaker 2: giggle in a very shocking, uncomfortable and surprising way.
Speaker 3: You are.
Speaker 5: I'd like to go right to the edge where you
Speaker 5: think I'm about.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's all good, but no, I love the three
Speaker 1: of y'all obviously.
Speaker 2: Mimi follows. Thanks for coming in to Monday Night Live.
Speaker 2: You are my friend for life and you know that already.
Speaker 2: But thank you for coming on and you are more
Speaker 2: than welcome to comeback any and every time. Keep your
Speaker 2: phone on and dustin quality. I will see y'all next Monday.
Speaker 5: Thank you, Carlos, all.
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