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Speaker 1: Welco up to Reality with the King.

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Speaker 2: It's me Carlos Kings, the King of Reality TV and

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Speaker 2: one of the most sought after executive producers in reality

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Speaker 2: television with over ten years a production experience. Twice a

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Speaker 2: week on Reality with the King, we'll sit down with

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Speaker 2: my friends across the entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality

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Speaker 2: shows and revisit unforgettable moments that we are still talking

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Speaker 2: and tweeting about.

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Speaker 1: All Right, so let's get it too. Tonight's gonna be

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Speaker 1: so much fun.

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Speaker 2: I'm so giddy because I'm here with Claudia and Me, Me,

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Speaker 2: and they are best friends and they are the perfect

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Speaker 2: to recap tonight's I'm Sorry last night's episode.

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Speaker 1: Tonight, So let's get into the Real Housewives of Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: As you all know, Smi and Porsche are going through

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Speaker 2: this tough time in their friendship.

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Speaker 1: So the episode started out.

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Speaker 2: With Shemiah meeting with Cynthia Bailey and she spoke about

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Speaker 2: what her and Porsche are going through. In this conversation,

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Speaker 2: she did mention along the lines that Porsche and I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: Porscha's mother and Shamia's mother aren't friends anymore. Okay, So

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Speaker 2: as you know Claudia, a housewife, gets the episode a

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Speaker 2: day or two before it airs on Saturday morning. I

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Speaker 2: want to stay with some and thirty am. Okay, I

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Speaker 2: want to say with some and thirty am. I wasn't

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Speaker 2: even able to wipe the codes from my eye. And

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Speaker 2: I go on Instagram as I'm preparing for my day,

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Speaker 2: and Porsche Williams posted a message on her Instagram fee

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Speaker 2: meet me and Claudia, not the stories, but the feed. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So I'm going to tell you all what she said.

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Speaker 1: Because I look, I'm a journalist. Hey, Porscha, Hey Claudia.

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Speaker 2: If I want to make sure that I read to y'all,

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Speaker 2: birdbatim what she Okay?

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Speaker 3: Wait?

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Speaker 1: Can I find it? Did I delete it?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Shoot, hold on, child, Okay, I'll look for it.

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Speaker 2: But long story short, Porsche told Shamilla that she watched

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Speaker 2: the episode.

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Speaker 1: She didn't like the fact that the mother was brought

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Speaker 1: up and that she is going down the wrong road.

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Speaker 2: When you guys watched that particular scene, did you feel

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Speaker 2: like Shamia was trying to throw the mother?

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Speaker 1: Okay, I gotta figure.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna read it to you, Okay, Porscha goes, I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna just say this. I'm watching new episode at Shamia.

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Speaker 2: She added her we we respect when you keep it

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Speaker 2: on the playground. She added, Shma, I'm gonna just say this,

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Speaker 2: I'm watching new episode.

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Speaker 1: Askamia more in now. Don't take it there. Don't imply

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Speaker 1: shit about Diane Williams. That's Porsia's mother.

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Speaker 2: I've been keeping it cute, quiet and you can do

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Speaker 2: and say what you want in me, but hear me

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Speaker 2: when I say all caps.

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Speaker 1: Wrong road, wrong.

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Speaker 2: Road, talking about well, your mom thought my mom was

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Speaker 2: a friend, knowing goddamn well, what she did to my

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Speaker 2: mom was highly egregious.

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Speaker 1: Don't do it, keep playing victim and that.

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Speaker 2: BS don't f with my mom. Yes, E g R

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Speaker 2: E G I O U as Claudia Jordan.

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Speaker 4: First of all, I like to get props. What props

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Speaker 4: to do? So that's great. That's a big word. Stop it, Porche.

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Speaker 4: You're reaching now. It goes from the be between you

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Speaker 4: and your friend to now being mad about the mother's

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Speaker 4: What Samia said was not even that bad about your mama,

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Speaker 4: and they made very well, had some kind of beef

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Speaker 4: that you were not even born or around for. I

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Speaker 4: just think that you're kind of I think Porscha's season

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Speaker 4: has been disappointing, and she knows it the fact that

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Speaker 4: Simon and I put that a lot of that on

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Speaker 4: Simon by being so petty and blocking a lot of

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Speaker 4: her storyline. So now you're making it. You're willing to

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Speaker 4: blow up your friendship with your friend and now bring

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Speaker 4: the mom like. I don't think what Chamia said was

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Speaker 4: I do not think that Shmia was being an evil person.

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Speaker 4: I don't think she was being messy. I do, however,

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Speaker 4: sorry thirsty. Now that's thirsty. You call me thirsty. I'm

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Speaker 4: not thirsty. This is thirsty right here?

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Speaker 5: Okay, I did all.

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Speaker 1: I didn't call you thirsty, Qua not you.

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Speaker 5: No, it was one of the rain drops. Yeah, I

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Speaker 4: Okay, when you feel like you're not heard by the

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Speaker 4: talk to someone. You have to get it out, as

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Speaker 4: And I feel like she felt comfortable talking about the situation.

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Speaker 5: I just don't. In my opinion, I don't think what she.

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Speaker 4: Said was that, Like she wasn't talking shit and trashing

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Speaker 6: My opinion on this is whatever is going on in

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Speaker 6: their friendship that we don't know about, because I'm sure

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Speaker 6: it's a lot. Of course, it's a lot we don't

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Speaker 6: know about. And whatever Porscha is going through currently, i e.

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Speaker 6: Her divorce, she doesn't want to discuss this real thing

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Speaker 6: that's happening with her in Shemiah. Samiah is visibly saying,

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Speaker 6: I want to talk to you, I want to communicate

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Speaker 6: with you. Please tell me what's going on, and Porscha

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Speaker 6: shuts her down every step of the way. She's no,

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Speaker 6: she's stopped, you know, And so it's you can't have

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Speaker 7: It's just very obvious.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So let's I want to talk about this because

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Speaker 2: one of the other things that was said, and Shemiah

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Speaker 2: sat down with Cynthia, she did say that Porscha told

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Speaker 2: her that Miss Diane did say that apple doesn't fall

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Speaker 1: The tree as she was talking about Shemiah.

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Speaker 2: And my thing is this, Okay, Now we're now aware, right,

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Speaker 2: of people are really resting on that. I'm sure it

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Speaker 2: is hard to be best friends with somebody where our

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Speaker 2: mothers have been for sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So one of the things that I really want to

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Speaker 2: scene between Portia and Shamiyah. First of all, this episode

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Speaker 2: you and I speak about. Claudia, we love to read,

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Speaker 2: We're now seeing the root of what has been evident.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying this is so reasoning, but it's some

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Speaker 2: getting along for whatever reason, we don't know that yet.

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Speaker 2: The producer did ask Shamiyah, well, why did you why

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Speaker 2: did your mom and miss Diane fall out?

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Speaker 1: And Shemiah did not answer the ques question.

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Speaker 2: It is clear that that is part of the reason

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Speaker 2: in order for us to really understand it, don't you

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Speaker 2: too feel maybe you don't that that to me is

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Speaker 2: a huge part of this as well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I couldn't imagine if my mother, Well, actually I

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Speaker 4: had a friend before, a really good friends that one

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Speaker 4: then I also love my friend. I feel like my

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Speaker 4: was like assuming things about something that wasn't true, and

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Speaker 4: it was I felt like it was my place. Like

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Speaker 4: I'm also the type that just because someone's blood that's

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Speaker 4: mean I ride with you no matter what you do.

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Speaker 4: I still have to be like, no, Mom, you're wrong

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Speaker 4: about that, or you're not right, or let me tell

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Speaker 4: you the real about this. And I just didn't think

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Speaker 4: that was cute to just sit there and like, you know,

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Speaker 4: her mom saying that apple don't fall far from the tree.

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Speaker 4: That's like the fifty eleft time that someone shaded Semi

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Speaker 4: in front of Porsche and Porsche just doesn't say anything,

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Speaker 4: like she just never defends her friend. And if there

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Speaker 4: is this big thing that Shamia is doing that we

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Speaker 4: don't know about, let us know and then maybe we'll

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Speaker 4: be more empathetic to you and be like, all right, Porscha,

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Speaker 4: you're right about that, you know, I mean, but we

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Speaker 4: don't know this bad thing that Shamia has supposedly done

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Speaker 4: seems like you're like you're being a hater. Maybe you

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Speaker 4: don't like that she's in your territory now getting attention.

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Speaker 4: But it's so weird, like the moms have beef. But

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Speaker 4: Porscha's mom, Diane is the one that said that apple

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Speaker 4: message like damn are they calling each other? But I

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Speaker 6: Like I said, there's something behind the scenes clearly that

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Speaker 6: we don't know about. And these two women are just

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Speaker 6: giving the bits and the piece of the meat and

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Speaker 6: the dark, everybody's going to be like, what's going on

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Speaker 6: because it's just you know, these bits and pieces from

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Speaker 6: this site, from this site, she's saying this, she's saying that,

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Speaker 6: she's not saying this, she's not saying that, So we

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Speaker 6: nobody knows what's happening.

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Speaker 1: So that's the thing.

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Speaker 2: I really want to take a deep dive into what

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Speaker 2: is going on potential me and Porsche. I watched the episode.

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Speaker 2: I actually watched an episode twice because I really wanted

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Speaker 2: to pay attention to the nuances so that we could

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Speaker 2: really have an educated conversation or the dynamics of female

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Speaker 2: friendships when it comes to two women in the same industry,

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Speaker 2: one makes it big and the other one does not, Right,

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Speaker 2: I want to have a real conversation.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So what we know for.

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Speaker 2: Sure is this, Shamia and Porsche have been friends since

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Speaker 2: they were teenage girls, right, middle school slash high school?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: Who you are as teenagers?

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Speaker 2: Oftentimes you're not the same when you're a woman in

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Speaker 2: your forties. Okay, you have different dreams and different goals

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Speaker 2: from my understanding.

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Speaker 1: Okay, when they have to.

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Speaker 2: Sit down, what we aren't really talking about Mimi and Claudia,

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Speaker 2: two women who have been best friends since since they

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Speaker 2: were in their early twenties. Shamiah did get her hand

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Speaker 2: This is what Angela said, I barely know you. I'm

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Speaker 2: Isn't that sort of the crux of what the issue

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Speaker 4: When they were playing Shamiah's song, Porscha's like, is this drew,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I agread one thousand percent as someone that was

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Speaker 2: Correct, Well, I want to I want to say this,

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Speaker 7: Hey, Dustin, dust it, you made it.

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Speaker 1: You're muted dust it.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 8: I never think that our motherfucking too far away? Okay,

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Speaker 3: What's up, Memi? How beautiful? Good? How are you? What's up? Claudia?

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Speaker 1: Love boy?

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Speaker 5: I'm so glad you mean they're in the comments? Say

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Speaker 5: where's Dustin? Where's theming? Like he got me back?

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Speaker 4: He on a plane because he's a baller, he'd be

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Speaker 4: doing things everywhere.

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Speaker 3: Listen.

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Speaker 8: I had to go work and l a much love

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Speaker 8: I feel really good, so I'm ready to talk some ship.

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Speaker 8: Let's talk about these housewives.

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Speaker 4: You look young and refreshed and happy. It's like you

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Speaker 8: Friend, Thank you friend. I did, and I'll definitely be

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Speaker 4: I got some things to text you too. I had

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Speaker 4: a person of interest, but I'll tell you about that later.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I mean, y'all.

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Speaker 1: Wait, I'm in y'all group chat. Y'all bout this mean

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Speaker 1: and portioned me and.

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Speaker 4: Know I'm gonna tell you, guys both, I was at

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Speaker 4: you see how they.

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Speaker 1: Do right drops they are about to should.

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Speaker 4: Be I'm in I'm in a group text with you.

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Speaker 5: You guys, you both what carlos?

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Speaker 3: Are we boring you? You?

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Speaker 8: Let's talk about sit now, let's talk about it. That

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Speaker 2: Okay, as as I moved my forks and knives, still weare.

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Speaker 1: Say I don't care. I don't care.

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Speaker 5: A lot of passing aggressive, you know.

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Speaker 1: What I mean.

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Speaker 2: Where Porscha moved those forks and doves, she ate that punitended,

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Speaker 1: Read me. I love television. I love subtle shade.

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Speaker 2: Where Porsche rearranged the silver ware the table. That was

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Speaker 1: Me, but very arranged, very loudly. I was here for it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we're gonna have a real conversation because Mimi asked

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Speaker 1: Mimi said, it's Shamiah on the show because of Porsche. Okay.

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Speaker 2: The fast answer is yes, and and and and and

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Speaker 1: Right, I'm not saying.

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Speaker 2: That Porsche contacted human resources, filled out the job application,

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Speaker 2: give me give me three security questions. What's the first

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Speaker 6: And listen, I understand what's happening. It was just that

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Speaker 7: This is my best fie, this is my girl. You

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Speaker 7: know what I'm saying. And but Shamia put in her

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Speaker 6: Be a housewife and get a peach, so I get

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Speaker 7: I'm just saying.

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Speaker 6: Initially, how Shemiya was introduced to this situation was from and.

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Speaker 5: Candy, right, didn't Candy have a hand in it too?

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I'm gonna give y'all some backstory. Okay, Porscha

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Speaker 2: came on the show season five. Okay, we met Shamiah

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Speaker 1: And that's what you did. Clauda, you know this, Mimi,

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Speaker 2: You brought Arian on the show, and I want to

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Speaker 1: Shemiah came on with Porsche.

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Speaker 2: Now, in terms of who got Porsche on season sixteenth

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Speaker 2: The word to the producers to hire Shemiah. That's what

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Speaker 2: two to how Shemia got on. But we only know

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Speaker 2: and secondly, secondly, Shemiah was definitely a main storyline season nine. Okay,

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Speaker 2: she came to the reunion, So what the one thing

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Speaker 2: you too, because I'm going someplace with this. Nobody wants

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Speaker 2: to have a real conversation that isn't PC And that

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Speaker 2: is what happens when your friend wants a job at

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Speaker 1: Okay? What happens when that's the case.

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Speaker 2: What happens when you two are friends and we have

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Speaker 2: Housewives of Atlanta? Okay, and then all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: So I want to I want to get to me,

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Speaker 1: to Mimi first.

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Speaker 2: Because me me, You were a main cast member on

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Speaker 2: the on Love and Hip Hop Atlanta and your best

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Speaker 2: I know my time there, there were conversations about whether

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Speaker 1: Should be full time.

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Speaker 2: People love her, She's gorgeous, fan favor all those things.

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Speaker 1: Was there something that you felt was.

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Speaker 2: Did did the dynamic between you and Arian shift when

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Speaker 6: Absolutely the dynamic shifted as soon as those cameras started rolling.

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Speaker 6: Marian began to befriend everyone that disliked me, began to

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Speaker 6: not going to be Nico's wife's muse. You were not

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Speaker 6: So these things I saw in real time that were

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Speaker 6: I had so many aha moments. But at the end

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Speaker 6: And I kept forgiving and forgiving and and.

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Speaker 7: At some point I'm like.

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Speaker 6: Nah, my friend, someone who says they're my best friend

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Speaker 6: would not do these things to me. My best friend

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Speaker 6: is not gonna scoot over and let Jocelyn sit next

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Speaker 7: My best friend's not gonna do that.

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Speaker 6: And these are all the things that Marian consistently did,

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Speaker 6: I see what's happening here. You want your spotlight, you

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Speaker 6: want to you want to be where I'm at. And

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Speaker 6: that's just what it was with us. I'm not saying

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Speaker 8: Y'all cool now, No, really, absolutely not for your friendship

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Speaker 7: Absolutely let me let me.

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Speaker 6: Let me give you another little nugget. She just didn't

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Speaker 6: have a chance before we got on TV to do

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Speaker 6: she really was. There were little things that happened in

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Speaker 6: let me tell you something. Claudie and I in twenty seven,

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Speaker 6: twenty eight years have never Claudie's never stole a pair

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Speaker 6: of my fucking shoes ever. Let me just tell you

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Speaker 6: a little story. I let this woman borrow a pair

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Speaker 6: of lubetants brand New had never warned she wanted to,

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Speaker 6: she had somewhere to go, Oh I need these here.

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Speaker 6: half goes back she never offered to give me my

438
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 6: shoes back.

439
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,119
Speaker 7: I'm like, damn. So I went to her house. We

440
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,160
Speaker 7: had a booking. I go to her house.

441
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 6: I see the lubratins sitting right out on the steps.

442
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 6: It was a few pairs of shoes, which, let me know,

443
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 6: you just wored them.

444
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 7: I'm like, oh them back tonight, blah blah blah, get

445
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 7: my makeup done. I go back out in the entrance.

446
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 7: The shoes are gone. So I'm like, just the lubertants,

447
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 7: not the rest of the shoes.

448
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 6: So that means you realize, oh, they were out. Let

449
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 6: me put them up somewhere. Not let me put all

450
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 6: the shoes away, but let me remove these and hide them.

451
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 7: So I said, oh, we're playing this game.

452
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 6: So I tell you, she got her makeup done, out

453
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 6: tore up looking.

454
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 7: For my shoes. I'm looking everywhere because I'm like, you

455
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 7: put them somewhere. They were just out. Found them in

456
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 7: the back of the closet.

457
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 5: Under a power and you took them right.

458
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 6: And I put my shoes right in the bag. And

459
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 6: I didn't say a word because because you know clearly

460
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 6: this is the game. We planted right put them right

461
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 6: in my bag and we went to the booking and

462
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:55,400
Speaker 6: we did all of the stupid stud you know, and

463
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 6: and it was never spoken of when she went to

464
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 6: go look under that piler clothes, guess what, the shoes

465
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 6: were gone. But my friend would never do that. My friend,

466
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 6: my best friend, is not going to try to steal

467
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 6: my quaudia.

468
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 5: You know, I'm over here chomping out the bed.

469
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 1: Come on.

470
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 6: So it was things like that that I'm like. It

471
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 6: was she was just waiting for her opportunity to just

472
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 6: really show her true colors, and she did so I

473
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:24,679
Speaker 6: can't even be surprised about it.

474
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 8: With guys, it's a little bit different, you know what

475
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 8: I'm saying with guys who works a little bit differently,

476
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 8: but the same elements of jealousy, envy, resentment, you know,

477
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 8: people that harbor resentment, all that shit still exists, And personally,

478
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 8: I just don't think it's any place in real friendship

479
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 8: for that. If I'm winning, there's always room at the

480
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 8: table for our people. My friends that are talented have gifts,

481
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,640
Speaker 8: like we all do what we do, and there's room

482
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 8: for everybody's brand of what they do.

483
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 3: I will never understand.

484
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 8: People that gate keep opportunities and keep their fans out

485
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 8: of the spotlight if you win, and the best feeling

486
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 8: in the world will be for your friend to be

487
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 8: winning right next to you and y'all getting that shit together.

488
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 8: That's just how I feel. I'm not a hater, though,

489
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 8: so it's a little bit different. I've never the minute

490
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 8: I sense any of that shit, any jealousy, any type

491
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 8: of anything that's official and and genuine. I'm out because

492
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 8: you don't need to have access to me, and I

493
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 8: don't need to be vulnerable to your harm and vice versa,

494
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 8: cause if I find out, I'm gonna harm you. So

495
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 8: that's why we just need to be protected from each other.

496
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 8: And if we're not going to truly be friends and

497
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 8: have each other's back, leave me the fuck alone. You

498
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 8: don't even have to be around here. We don't even

499
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 8: have to do this. Just gone somewhere and let me

500
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 8: rock so me and me. I would award them shoes

501
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 8: out the house. I'd have put them on the world

502
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:46,439
Speaker 8: one later. Click clack right on it for the driveway.

503
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 4: The question about can you like if someone where your

504
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 4: friend comes on the show into your workplace, into your situation, like,

505
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 4: is that bad or does that ruin the friendship? Or whatever,

506
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 4: not if they're your real friend. The problem is she

507
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,479
Speaker 4: wasn't your real friend before that camera just magnifies.

508
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 5: Who the fuck she already was. She was already.

509
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 4: Trifling and looking at you. Mimi has a very caring heart.

510
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 4: Mimi is very, very generous. I tell her this all

511
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 4: the time. She has given so much money and grace

512
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 4: and food and cash and lubatonts and hair and places

513
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 4: to stay and use my car to so many people.

514
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 4: And when she was down and out, I can count

515
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 4: on maybe this hand who was there back for her.

516
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 4: None of them hose and a lot of them that

517
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 4: benefited with Mimi was at the very top.

518
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 5: When she was on the number one reality show that

519
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 5: was out there was all her face.

520
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 4: They were all the parties, they were all there for

521
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 4: the good times. Mimi was treating for everything. And when

522
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 4: she's not on the show, where are they now now?

523
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 4: If that person was really your friend, They're not gonna mind.

524
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 4: It's gonna yo, Let's go run it up. I was

525
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 4: on TV way before Mimi, and we had many conversation

526
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 4: and she did not know what she wanted to do,

527
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 4: and we had many conversations with me. We would be

528
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 4: very upset about I just don't know what I want

529
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 4: to do in life. When my friend got in the

530
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 4: reality space and blew up and went right past me

531
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 4: where I was, there was not one tinge of jealousy.

532
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:21,199
Speaker 4: I was in message board defend of my friend. I

533
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 4: was like, had her back. I was so happy that

534
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,439
Speaker 4: my girl found something and something found her and blew

535
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 4: her up, and the people in the world could see

536
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 4: how dope of a person she is.

537
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 5: There was nothing of that, and I would have loved it.

538
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 4: We could have both been on either Loving hip Hop

539
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 4: or leant A Housewives together because we would have ran

540
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 4: that shit. There was none of that. It wasn't like,

541
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 4: oh you coming over here where we are?

542
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 3: No.

543
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 5: I was so proud.

544
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 4: We would go to Lenox Mall when I come to

545
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 4: Atlanta and I'm on Housewives and she's on Love and

546
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 4: hip Hop, and we was like, if you know, the

547
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 4: older ones knew who I was and the younger ones

548
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 4: knew who she was.

549
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 5: It was dope as shit. That's how you feel.

550
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 4: A better friend you really love, not soone that you

551
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 4: just around to benefit off of. And MEI had a

552
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 4: lot of little I don't know leech is around her

553
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 4: a lot.

554
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 2: So I do want to ask you this though, because

555
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 2: this is a great parallel when Arian was on the show,

556
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 2: did she ever sit down and say to you, I

557
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 2: want to be a full cast member of Love and Hipapolanta.

558
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 6: No, she never expressed that to me. She just showed

559
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 6: it in her actions while filming with other people and

560
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 6: conversations with others. It was never a conversation that she

561
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 6: had with me personally.

562
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 2: Child. We are just getting started. This is reality with

563
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 2: the King and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into

564
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 2: the show. And the reason why I brought this up

565
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 2: because Claudia doesn't mean me. I want to ask you

566
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 2: all this as I'm watching the show. So when Porscha

567
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 2: Shamia said down, I think they both were not ready

568
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 2: for that conversation because that's not the dynamic of their friendship.

569
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: I think.

570
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 2: I think Porscha and Shmia do This is my opinion.

571
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 2: I don't think they have the type of friendship where

572
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 2: they are are truthful.

573
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: And when I say truthful, I.

574
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 2: Mean having tough conversations with each other that is their

575
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 2: own truth. I don't think that's like I don't think

576
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 2: that's their dynamic. And what I did as my homework assignment.

577
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 2: I watch those scenes multiple times because I was I was.

578
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: I wanted to understand the dynamic of this friendship.

579
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 2: So when Shamiah told Porsche, well off camera, I checked.

580
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: You, I should say check you, Shamide? Did I say

581
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: check you?

582
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 2: Off camera? I spoke to you about you over talking

583
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 2: me right off camera? I did these things, and that

584
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 2: to me signaled you two don't have the type of

585
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 2: friendship to where on camera you're able to have those

586
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 2: real conversations, because y'all both do it off camera, and

587
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 2: I thought they both came to that scene not ready

588
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 2: to hear each other. I think Porsha was so focused

589
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 2: on I can't believe we have this concert on camera.

590
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 2: I don't know what she's about to say. And I

591
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 2: think Shamiah was like, I now have the floor to

592
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 2: express myself. Did you guys gather that when you was

593
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 2: watching it too? We can start with Dustin.

594
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 8: Porsia is the dominant personality in their friendship, and they

595
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 8: have not found a rhythm after twenty years where Shamia

596
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 8: can exist within the fullness of herself. That's plain. It's

597
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 8: day clear to see. It's evident from them in minute

598
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 8: they share screen time right. That's why Shemiah seems to

599
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 8: be fighting for respect, and that's never a good position

600
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 8: to being in any relationship, but especially with somebody who's

601
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 8: supposed to be your best friend.

602
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 3: So they have a lot of work to do.

603
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 8: I actually think that their issues being pushed to the

604
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 8: forefront and then being forced to address it because of

605
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 8: the show is a good thing.

606
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 3: It's a good thing.

607
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 8: And I love seeing Samia as a housewife. I love

608
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 8: hearing her speak. I think she has one of the

609
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 8: prettiest speaking voices I've ever heard in my life. I

610
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 8: love seeing her be rich with them, beautiful black children.

611
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 8: I love all of that, and so I think there's

612
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 8: definitely room for her.

613
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 3: And this is when you have.

614
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 8: To be careful about allowing your work to define you

615
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 8: and be your identity, right because if you being a

616
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 8: part of this cast, and I'm not speaking about anyone

617
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 8: in general, this is for any housewife. If you being

618
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 8: a part of that cast is what makes you who

619
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 8: you are, then you're going to end up fracturing friendships

620
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 8: like that when your friends become involved in this thing

621
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 8: and you don't want them to get full exposure. But

622
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 8: the powers that be, do you know what I'm saying

623
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 8: that's what this conflict is about. A lot of Porscha's

624
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 8: identity right now, and basically since the public has known her,

625
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 8: has come from the Real Housewives of Atlanta, and I

626
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 8: think she did not want to. I just think that

627
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 8: she has just connected herself to that brand so much

628
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 8: that she feels like Shemia is kind of stepping on

629
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 8: her toes and she's really not because they both can

630
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 8: be on that show and do their thing.

631
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 3: So I don't know.

632
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 8: I just know I'm never gonna be little boy like that.

633
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 8: Ain't nobody never gonna be saying, you know, snatching up

634
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 8: silverwear on me and talking over my song and shit

635
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 8: like that.

636
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 3: Like that's things.

637
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 8: Those microaggressions and not even microaggressions, those aggressions, you know

638
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 8: what I'm saying, they just don't have a place in friendship.

639
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 6: So I'm gonna say, maybe it's because Porsche's house is

640
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 6: crumbling down and Shemiah's house is strong right now, and

641
00:33:55,440 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 6: the dynamic is doing this not even on but off

642
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 6: camera in real life, and so now on camera it's

643
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 6: making it very uncomfortable because now the roles are kind

644
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 6: of reversing, and so which is making it difficult for

645
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:17,240
Speaker 6: these two women who even converse, you know, because Shemiah

646
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 6: now was finding her voice more vocal, and Porscha is like,

647
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 6: are you kidding me?

648
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 7: So it's a clash.

649
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 4: Also now for the first time in their relationship, I

650
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 4: do dustin a piggyback off of you. It's obvious Porsche

651
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 4: little girls Samia all the time.

652
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 3: Yo.

653
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 4: Though Shamia clearly has more wealth, has a has a

654
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 4: successful marriage, has a family life, all of those the

655
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 4: things Porscha Listen, there's no denying Porscha has a fame,

656
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 4: She has a lot of charisma and all that. I

657
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 4: feel like Porscha, to her sister and as well as

658
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 4: to Shamiah, treats people like they're her assistants or her fans,

659
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 4: and she's.

660
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 5: The star and her friends.

661
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 4: So when Shamia, when when Shamia finally speaks up for

662
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 4: the first time, and all that we see of it

663
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 4: almost is like what you talking to me like that?

664
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 4: That's not been their dynamic, you can tell from that.

665
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 4: And then and then lunch when they met up, it

666
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 4: looked like Shamia was almost coming a little too hard

667
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 4: because finally, finally I finally got the wind behind me,

668
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 4: and I have this, and so she almost came up

669
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 4: a little too aggressive in the scene like and then

670
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 4: and because she's been holding it in for twenty years.

671
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 5: So you're getting all of.

672
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 4: These things from five Christmases ago and then that one

673
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 4: time you did me dirty and then another time. So

674
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 4: it's a little unfair to unleash it all in that

675
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 4: scene to Porsche, I will say that in a healthy relationship,

676
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 4: when it happens, you address it, then we move on.

677
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 4: So now the argument will happened today is just about today.

678
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 4: It's not about what happened at prom It's not about

679
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 4: the time you overshadow me, you know what I mean.

680
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 4: So I feel like Shamiah is like, you know, almost

681
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 4: with Leni and sid with people called said that about

682
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 4: Cynthia and Nini, like you have the dominant personnality. And

683
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 4: finally season seven with you know, the backing of Team

684
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 4: Pritty and all that, she's.

685
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 5: You know, ry Ra, although I know Cindy to b

686
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 5: r Rah.

687
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,720
Speaker 4: Outside of that, it almost feels like, wait a minute,

688
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 4: you ain't never come at me like that before. I'm

689
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 4: more comfortable with you being in a beta position and

690
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 4: me being alpha. So now it feels like you're coming

691
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 4: to me when I'm not. I'm just trying to make

692
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 4: us more eve equal.

693
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 2: Claudia Jordans, I mean, listen, listen, listen.

694
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

695
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 3: You gotta get that Carlos all night.

696
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: I got props, knives, spoons, and forces.

697
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 2: Listen cause, Claudia, thank you for clocking it. The reason

698
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 2: why I was so thrilled to talk about this today

699
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,760
Speaker 2: with you guys is because I could care less about

700
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 2: all the duance ses. I care more about what really

701
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 2: happens in friendships, and I want my audience to be

702
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 2: real and not pick favorites.

703
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 1: Okay, let's just have a real conversation. Claude hits and

704
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: nell On the hit every week she does.

705
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 2: The thing is this, Every friendship has different dynamics and personalities.

706
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, in some friendships, I'll cluck my own shit.

707
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 2: I was at a friend group in my early twenties

708
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 2: where I was the beta and another guy was the alpha.

709
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 4: Right.

710
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 2: He was tall, gorgeous, and everybody loved him right, and

711
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 2: he got everything he wanted, everything he wanted, and the

712
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 2: dynamics of.

713
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: Our friendship was He never little boyed.

714
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 2: Me, but I definitely understood that you're the alpha. I'll

715
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:46,479
Speaker 2: guild deeper. You're the leader. I'm the follower because because

716
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 2: I can say this, not that I'm older. Back then,

717
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 2: I would never admit it, because it's not cute to

718
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 2: admit that. But in real friendships, there are groups of

719
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 2: people where one person is the dominant one and the

720
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 2: other person is not okay, And when the other person

721
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 2: is not the dominant one, it does cause friction. The

722
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 2: reason why I me and this guy fell out is

723
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 2: because I finally stood up for myself and I said

724
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 2: I'm sick and tired.

725
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:14,959
Speaker 3: He didn't.

726
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 2: He didn't he did a little boy met, he did

727
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 2: something shady, and I wrestled with confronting him.

728
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: Long story short, I confronted him.

729
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 2: We fell out and we haven't spoken since because we

730
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 2: haven't spoken sense because are the dynamics of our friendship

731
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 2: just wasn't that?

732
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: And in my friend group now there's no followers.

733
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 2: But in my friend group now, we're all successful people,

734
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 2: but we all have very different dynamics of our friend group.

735
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 2: I just told y'all last week, one of my friends said,

736
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 2: bitch your Carlos King. I love being a plus one.

737
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 2: I'm Gail King, your Oprah and bitch. I want you

738
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 2: to know I'm here for it. I have, I have,

739
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 2: I got my own life. I don't want to be famous.

740
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 2: Please don't put a camera front of me. But we

741
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 2: we have these conversations, and I think that this service

742
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 2: that Porsha and Samia are doing to each other, They're

743
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:17,439
Speaker 2: not sitting each other down saying look, I could feel

744
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 2: some kind of way you wanting to come on my job,

745
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 2: or Shamiah saying like Claudia said, I'm sick and tired

746
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 2: of being the background singer and I want a leading

747
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 2: role in this.

748
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 1: I really want to know.

749
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 2: If Shamia ever told Porsche Hi, I would like to

750
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 2: be a housewife, I would like to hold a peach.

751
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 2: It's it's it's it's it's it's weird. Me and me

752
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 2: just talked about how Arian allegedly did not do that.

753
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 2: I'm saying alleged because you know, child, I love other girls.

754
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is, I have a best friend

755
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 2: who works at a network.

756
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 1: I've had my dreams.

757
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 2: He got his dream if he if my best friend

758
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 2: saw me walk into this network in the lobby and

759
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 2: he's like, what are you here for, oh child, I'm

760
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 2: applying for a job. He would have every right to

761
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 2: feel some kind of way if I did not sit

762
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 2: him down and say, Hi, I would like to have

763
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 2: a job at your place of apployment.

764
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 1: And I think we got to talk about the elephant

765
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 1: in the room.

766
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 2: If Shamiah never wants to poorscha down and say, look,

767
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 2: I would like to be a peach holder, put in

768
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 2: a word for your girl. If she never did that,

769
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 2: I would understand why this dynamic is the way it

770
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 2: is today.

771
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 4: I don't believe that they never had a conversation about this.

772
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 4: Did is Shmia hook her up with Simon.

773
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 1: That I don't I don't know that I don't.

774
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 5: I find it.

775
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 4: Hard to believe that they never had a Like when

776
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 4: you're on a show and they every single year of

777
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 4: looking for new cast mates, You mean to tell me

778
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 4: that you and your best friend are not gonna have

779
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 4: a conversation like, oh I will, hey man if there's

780
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 4: a spot like slimy in there, or you should actually

781
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 4: be the one to say it.

782
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 5: I don't know. I would want my friend on the

783
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 5: show over some new girls.

784
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 3: I don't know.

785
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 8: We've also been seeing because I agree with you, Carlos, right,

786
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 8: that would be five it would just be unnatural because

787
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 8: if you're friends with somebody, those are the type of details,

788
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,919
Speaker 8: details of your life that you discussed, right.

789
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 3: But in this case, right, the.

790
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 8: Circumstances are a little bit more unique because her what

791
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 8: I've been told and what we've all been told right

792
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 8: in interviews, they've been eyeing Shemiah to be a housewife

793
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 8: and be a peach holder for a long time and

794
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 8: she just could not do it because her husband wasn't

795
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 8: willing to film, and I guess it wouldn't be the

796
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 8: total package. So this being season sixteen, if they've been

797
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 8: approaching Shemia since season what.

798
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 3: Five, six eight? Now, I don't know, you know what

799
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

800
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: I know, Okay, Samiyah.

801
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 2: When Shamiyah was on season nine, Shamia, first of all,

802
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 2: Shamia is one of the most beautiful women I lay line.

803
00:41:58,800 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: She's so gorgeous.

804
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 2: Shamiyah has the personality, she has, the lot she has,

805
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 2: she has, she has everything necessary to be the star

806
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 2: that she is. And there's not one person breathing who

807
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:14,280
Speaker 2: can take away shamiah shine. When when Shamiah was approached

808
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 2: to do the show, so I want I want to

809
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 2: get into the approach because and I'm not saying Shamia

810
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 2: did this, but when you are casting for any reality show,

811
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:27,720
Speaker 2: let's just stick to my man of housewives for today.

812
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 2: It's one thing for a casting director to pick up

813
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 2: the phone and say I would like to put you

814
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,439
Speaker 2: on tape, ladies, gentlemen, gays and days. When they call you,

815
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 2: it doesn't mean you got the job. And I need

816
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 2: to address that. There's a process. When I met Claudia

817
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 2: at the gay bar and I said I want you

818
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 2: to be a housewife, Claudia had to go through a

819
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 2: series of interviews. It wasn't a shoe in. She had

820
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 2: to go to multiple interviews. She didn't have to go

821
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 2: on tape, go on tape again, we have to see

822
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 2: her house. She had to send photos to talk again.

823
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 2: Then she had to get co signed by Kenya as

824
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 2: are y'all really friends? Can you say we are friends?

825
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 2: Then she had to film for free and get her footwear.

826
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 1: It's a process.

827
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,760
Speaker 2: So when Shamiah was approached, the reason why it didn't

828
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 2: go as far as it could have because.

829
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: Shamiah is everything.

830
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 2: The reason why Shamiah's position never went further than what

831
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,879
Speaker 2: it could have been is because at that time, on

832
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 2: the show.

833
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: If you were married, your husband had to be on

834
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: the show.

835
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 2: There was no your husband's on episode one and we

836
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 2: see him on YouTube.

837
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:41,240
Speaker 1: That was never the case.

838
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 2: So the this is listen, I'm an let's have real conversation.

839
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 2: The goal post was moved. The goal post was moved.

840
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 2: So when Shamiah got the opportunity to come on the

841
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 2: show this season, it.

842
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 4: Didn't okay, in her defense, didn't portion us like recommend

843
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 4: her at one point, like, okay, your best friend.

844
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 5: You know, I'm a recommend her.

845
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 4: But it's probably never gonna happen because I know for

846
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 4: a fact her man doesn't want to do it. You

847
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 4: could throw it out there, but then probably in your

848
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 4: wildest dreams, never thought it would really ever happen because

849
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 4: her husband was so firm with it. Maybe that could

850
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 4: have been what happened, but then it ended up happening

851
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 4: when she got on. Anyways, and maybe she's not feeling it.

852
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 5: You know.

853
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 8: My thing is the idea of Shmia being a housewife

854
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 8: is not new right in the context of their friendship.

855
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 8: So I wonder is that really the reason why they're

856
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 8: having these issues now? Because to me is a housewife,

857
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 8: I mean, it's not a new idea. It's not a

858
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 8: new concept. It's something that I believe they've talked about before.

859
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:41,479
Speaker 3: If there's been.

860
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 8: An interest, right like serious interests multiple seasons prior, they

861
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 8: have had to have had a conversation about this. So

862
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 8: I don't know if it's just the actual, you know,

863
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 8: feeling of her being seen with her seeing her tangibly

864
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 8: a part of this cast that is triggering Porsche in

865
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 8: a I don't know what kind of deep seated issues

866
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 8: are materializing because of this, but something is going on.

867
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 8: And as you can see, the other day, Porsche made

868
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,240
Speaker 8: a post on Instagram that she deleted where she basically

869
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 8: issued a center warning, shout out shot, excuse me out

870
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 8: to Shemiyah about having conversations about their moms on camera

871
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 8: and whatever issues their moms have had in their friendship.

872
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 8: So that's some deep, old school, family rooted shit that

873
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 8: goes back way far beyond these cameras, and that's the

874
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 8: work that they have to get done. I don't know

875
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 8: if if they don't have those types of conversations, I

876
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 8: don't know if they'll be able to make something as

877
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 8: simple as them being cash members work.

878
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 4: I don't know, you know, that's saying they say like

879
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 4: people want you to do people want you to do well,

880
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 4: but not better than them and something like that. Right,

881
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 4: I think when she said, oh, you know, she knows

882
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 4: she's gonna come on, but think about it. The return

883
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 4: of Porsche to Housewives was supposed to be the huge

884
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 4: return for Porsche back to the A lot of Housewives,

885
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 4: where everything was going to be said around her life,

886
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 4: her her you know, her divorce with Simon and all

887
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 4: the messinists that all the questions that we were left

888
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 4: hanging with when Porsche and ceremoniously left back in the day,

889
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 4: right left, leaving us all to not really get answers

890
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 4: about it. Right, So when she's coming back, it was

891
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 4: definitely billed as this was there was one supposed to

892
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 4: be Porsche's show. She was gonna be the new needie

893
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 4: right of the show. So I think she really thought that,

894
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 4: you know, of course, yeah, I don't care if she

895
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 4: comes on the show. It ain't gonnaffect me. I'm the

896
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:29,919
Speaker 4: queen Bee. Oh this is still my thing. It ain't

897
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 4: gonna hurt me either way. But then right before when

898
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 4: the rug up pulled out from underneath, Simon put a

899
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,760
Speaker 4: stop and was being patty I think he kind of mess.

900
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 5: Up her season. Uh, now your worst nightmare has come true.

901
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 5: She's on and now all the fans are saying, oh

902
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 5: my god, she's the it girl. She's the girl. In

903
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,280
Speaker 5: the first few weeks, we even thought.

904
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 4: That about Smir, right, we were like, yo, Sami and

905
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 4: Shamie is Shamir before Angela oagly pulled them from So

906
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 4: I'm sure that caused some tension. When you know, you

907
00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 4: can tell when the producers are hot for someone else,

908
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 4: you're hearing about all the days they're filming, they're doing

909
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 4: events around their life and at their house, and maybe

910
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,439
Speaker 4: that made her feel a different way, like it's almost like, yeah,

911
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 4: let me bring on my show and then you end

912
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 4: up shining more than me on my show. I can

913
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 4: understand how you might feel away nothing is right, but

914
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 4: I understand the you know, I understand how Porsche could feel.

915
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,240
Speaker 5: A way nothing is right. But maybe that's what happened.

916
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:21,280
Speaker 5: Maybe that's what happened.

917
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, Maymi, what do you think.

918
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:25,439
Speaker 7: I just said?

919
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 6: I just said that the fact that Porscha in what's

920
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 6: going on in her life is kind of dissipated and

921
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 6: Shamia has the family, the husband, you know, everything fabulous

922
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 6: and is able to do. What she's doing is causing

923
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 6: a friction in their friendship and the dynamic is shifting,

924
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 6: and now it's.

925
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,439
Speaker 7: This thing between them.

926
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:52,479
Speaker 6: So yeah, I know, I'm positive Porsche feels some type

927
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 6: of way and Shemia's just like, hey girl, I'm just

928
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 6: doing what I do. But Porscha is like, damn, you know,

929
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 6: so it's causing this this thing between them.

930
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 4: She thought Shemi was gonna come on as a support

931
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 4: for her storyline, not as to overlap her and you know,

932
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 4: eclipse her, although it was in the beginning, but not

933
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 4: really now.

934
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 2: I also think to listen also think it's the fact

935
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 2: that Listen shout out to Angela Oakley.

936
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: I give props her due.

937
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 2: In my opinion, I think Angela Oakley saw an opportunity

938
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,720
Speaker 2: when she saw those girls laugh and she said, I got.

939
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 1: One better for you.

940
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 2: The next episode she said, hey, Porsicha, Shemiah said this

941
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 2: about you.

942
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,240
Speaker 1: I think it's the fact that.

943
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:42,439
Speaker 2: They brought this issue to the forefront and now they're

944
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 2: forced to deal with it because Angela, and this is no.

945
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: Shade to her.

946
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:51,280
Speaker 2: Angela did her job as a housewife and made sure

947
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 2: to be a force multiplier, and she knew some tea

948
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 2: about their friendship and said, I'm gonna get y'all back,

949
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,320
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna get y'all back in a very different,

950
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 2: unique way, and she did. We would not know any

951
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:07,879
Speaker 2: of this it's happening. I don't want to be clear.

952
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 2: The only reason we know there's issues between SMI and

953
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 2: Porsche is because Angela told us what Shamia said as

954
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 2: she was pink and swearing.

955
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 7: She played chess.

956
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 8: She played chess, a masterful performance as a first season housewife, masterful.

957
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 3: She literally blew that shit all the way up.

958
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 8: The minute she saw them outside talking shit about her,

959
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,720
Speaker 8: she was like, Okay, y'all want to play, let's play.

960
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 8: And ultimately that makes for great television, right. The problem

961
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 8: is that there's a real life, real world impact that

962
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 8: has fractured a real relationship. It's not fodder for the

963
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 8: show type shit. But that's what happens when you put

964
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 8: yourself in that position, when you say things like she

965
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,879
Speaker 8: better be got on fuck our man, and the other

966
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 8: person is laughing and nobody really gives a fuck. You

967
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 8: know what I'm saying, This is what you end up with.

968
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 8: They didn't know how Angela was gonna come back, and

969
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 8: she played that game so quiet and smooth.

970
00:49:58,640 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 3: She put that tennis skirt on it.

971
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 8: Advisor put their wig in a pony tail sets with

972
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 8: their rental PROPRIENCEI Shamiah feels like it may be a

973
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:09,439
Speaker 8: lopsided important on her face like this.

974
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 4: She then she shows up in this last episode with

975
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 4: Cynthia and and Porsche like nothing ever happened. We would

976
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 4: never know, Like just last two weeks ago that she

977
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 4: Portia was talking about fucking her husband and Angelas is

978
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:22,919
Speaker 4: playing the long game.

979
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 5: She's like, oh yeah, oh it's all good. We're moving on. Yo.

980
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 4: You Angela very high IQ, very high Reality TV IQ

981
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 4: very Yeah.

982
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: No, she clocked it. She clocked it, so listen.

983
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 2: I will say this all jokes aside and I and

984
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 2: I do mean this. Shamia and Porsche. What I did

985
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 2: see last night is there's still love there. They're still

986
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 2: love there, and in my opinion, they have history, and

987
00:50:55,200 --> 00:51:00,040
Speaker 2: it's their history to me that's keeping them together. I

988
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 2: think when you look at both of their lives and

989
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 2: I'm somebody who lived in Atlanta and I know a

990
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 2: lot about this. There, Portia and Shamia are in two

991
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 2: very different friend groups, and there's nothing wrong with that

992
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:20,320
Speaker 2: because who you bond with at thirteen barring blue magic

993
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 2: hair Greeks for your edges, liking liking the same member

994
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 2: of New Edition, those are very different things you have

995
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 2: in common than when you are in your forties. And

996
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 2: I think if Portia and Shamia really said down, had

997
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 2: a real conversation, their friendship is based on the numerical

998
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,919
Speaker 2: nature of how long they've known each other. Because as

999
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,879
Speaker 2: somebody who knows how Atlanta friend groups work. And we'll

1000
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 2: talk about that another time, Chaka as a whole episode,

1001
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 2: Claudia and dusn't a.

1002
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 7: Me me, Me me.

1003
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 2: You know that for me and me and my liar,

1004
00:51:55,000 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 2: Atlanta friendships are very clique girl MEMI. Okay, Like I said,

1005
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 2: I think Porscha Shami should sit down and say we

1006
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 2: will always have love for each other and let's find

1007
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:16,240
Speaker 2: a way of being respectful. But this idea, because listen,

1008
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 2: it's unfortunate that the audience is taking this best friend

1009
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 2: word to seriously. I Carlos King, do not think for

1010
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 2: a second that they are best friends based on what

1011
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,399
Speaker 2: best friends mean. I think they have known each other

1012
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:36,720
Speaker 2: for thirty years. They love each other. But if Porscha

1013
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 2: moved to Idaho and Shemiah moved to North Dakota, they'll

1014
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 2: speak three s.

1015
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:45,720
Speaker 4: I think that Shamiah was Porscha's was the best friend

1016
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 4: to Porsha. I think Porsia is a best friend to

1017
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,919
Speaker 4: nobody but money and men. Honestly, if I'm being real,

1018
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 4: we see opportunity getting the way of that. I definitely

1019
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 4: feel like Shamiah is showing like you know, she she's

1020
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 4: I think she's very hurt. But again, I think she's

1021
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 4: been in the beta position that friendship and Portia is

1022
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 4: not willing to see her on her level. That's what

1023
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 4: I think. And yeah, I think there's a lot of

1024
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 4: nostalgia between the two. Yeah, we've been friends since nineteen

1025
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 4: eighty one or whatever year they were. I don't know

1026
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 4: when they were born, but I think there is nostalgia.

1027
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 4: But I do think that one was definitely more of

1028
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 4: her friend to the other. And I think for Simia

1029
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 4: finally got sick of it and that's what made her

1030
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 4: feel like it was okay to talk badly about her

1031
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 4: friend or share a tea with about her friend to

1032
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 4: new friends.

1033
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 3: Yep.

1034
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 8: One percent to me is she has maxed out basically,

1035
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,280
Speaker 8: And that's why she had them jeans that was busting

1036
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 8: out like that, because she's busting at the scene right now.

1037
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 3: You know what.

1038
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 8: I that's why she had them jeans on that ass

1039
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 8: tied up in them jeans like that, because she's busting

1040
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 8: at the scene.

1041
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 3: She has fucking head. You can only take yeah when

1042
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 3: they put up that sit down.

1043
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 8: Remember she had on them one cheek to cheese jeans

1044
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 8: with them laces in the yeah, yeah, up in there.

1045
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I thought it was great.

1046
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,879
Speaker 8: But she's bursting at the seams like that with her

1047
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 8: real feelings. And good for her, because there's nothing that

1048
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 8: feels better than finally getting some shit off your chest

1049
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 8: that really.

1050
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 3: You or your bud or your bud.

1051
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 8: Soon as she got in the car and the streams

1052
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 8: was like, you know, say, she relaxed as soon as

1053
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 8: she got in the car.

1054
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 3: But I don't know. That's a lot of work.

1055
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 8: I also think that, especially as an adult, when you

1056
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 8: get into a certain age and certain stage of life,

1057
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 8: friendships should not require that much work. And if I

1058
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 8: have to explain to you that you have to respect me,

1059
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 8: then that means that there's a severe misalignment here, and

1060
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 8: maybe we don't need to be friends, and that doesn't

1061
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,280
Speaker 8: always have to be a messy, nasty break.

1062
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 3: Sometimes you can just make a decision. I'm gonna go write.

1063
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 4: Once you saw a little girl in your friend, or

1064
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 4: you feel like you're getting little girls a little boy

1065
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 4: by your friend, the respect is gone, The respect is gone,

1066
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:54,879
Speaker 4: Like you should never feel that way about it. Front

1067
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 4: like I have to always be on defense. Oh let

1068
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 4: me have one of the chamber of kids. You come

1069
00:54:58,040 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 4: at me today.

1070
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's not a friend, that's not a friendship.

1071
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 3: That's a motherfucker.

1072
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 6: You know, Claudie and I literally have never had an argument.

1073
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:11,760
Speaker 6: Never in twenty seven years. We've never had an argument.

1074
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 6: We've always respected each other. We've always you know, felt

1075
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 6: like we were here all the time, every step of

1076
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 6: the way. We grew with each other. She didn't outgrow me,

1077
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:25,879
Speaker 6: I didn't outgrow her. It was a mutual respect our

1078
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 6: entire relationship. And I think that's why we have lasted

1079
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 6: and been, you know, the type of friends that we

1080
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 6: are today.

1081
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 4: Never even a raising of the voice, not one, not

1082
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 4: one time. So it is possible, y'all. And there have

1083
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 4: been times where we were in different levels career wise financially,

1084
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 4: where maybe I'm here, she's there, and vice versa, where

1085
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 4: I'm here and she's there. And it didn't change the

1086
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 4: friendship because our friendship wasn't based on being on television.

1087
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 4: Our friendship is based on you. You funny like yo.

1088
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 4: I remember back in the day, Mimi had me and

1089
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 4: some shit. I almost got arrested by the Federal Allies.

1090
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 4: And I should have been mad at her. I should

1091
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 4: have cussed her us out when the DEA came to

1092
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,840
Speaker 4: see me, but I did not. Agents came to see me,

1093
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 4: but I did not. We still stay cool.

1094
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 5: We used humor, We laugh about things. We you know.

1095
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 4: I remember Mimi when no one throw her baby shower

1096
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 4: for when she was pregnant with Eva. Me and Alta,

1097
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 4: who introduced us, we went to Mimi's place and we

1098
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 4: surprised her. That's when Steve didn't have a car. He

1099
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 4: was real nice and humble. He was making food for

1100
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 4: you because he had nowhere. He couldn't even drive nowhere

1101
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 4: because he was driving your car. Anyways, we went and

1102
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 4: brought a baby shower to you. That's what real friends

1103
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 4: are for. It ain't about like what level who's on

1104
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 4: what it's not about that like it had, our friendship

1105
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 4: has had nothing to do with status, nothing to do

1106
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 4: with status. If your friendship is based on that, you're

1107
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 4: not in a friendship. You're in a business relationship or

1108
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 4: your co stars.

1109
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:54,879
Speaker 5: That's it.

1110
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 3: You make a great point.

1111
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 8: There's a difference between a regular dishriy agreement that you

1112
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 8: can have with a person. Right But when we arguing

1113
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 8: about how you look at me, how you value me,

1114
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 8: or if you don't value me, like we know about

1115
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 8: that kind of shit, pull the plug, you know what

1116
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 8: I'm saying, Because there's certain things that should just be

1117
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 8: understood in general. If we're friends, we respect each other,

1118
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 8: We show up at a certain level, we support each other.

1119
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 3: That's what you do.

1120
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 8: Anytime that we're arguing about whether or not you treat

1121
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 8: me like unvaluable, fuck.

1122
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 3: That like what, we don't even need to talk no more.

1123
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 8: That's how I feel some with you, me and me,

1124
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 8: I'd have got my shoes and got the fuck out

1125
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 8: of there.

1126
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 5: Face like okay, Claudia, that's enough.

1127
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 2: But seriously, I want to get to two more things

1128
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 2: before we we In this live there were tons of

1129
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 2: conversations I watched an episode a couple of times to

1130
00:57:56,400 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 2: prepare for tonight, there were conversations about the dynamic between

1131
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 2: Angela and Charles.

1132
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: There was a scene that took place in this episode.

1133
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 2: Angela was like you love me, give me kids, blah

1134
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 2: blah blah, and Charles with nonchalot. The audience on Twitter

1135
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 2: felt that Charles is not into Angela. I didn't call

1136
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 2: me the minority in the situation. I didn't look at

1137
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 2: it that way. I think for my I don't know Charles.

1138
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 2: I'm basing this off of the show. I think Charles

1139
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 2: is heavily sarcastic. I think Charles reminds me a lot

1140
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 2: of my father, like the old school black man who's

1141
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 2: just you know. They they're very nonchalant in nature, and

1142
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 2: I think that's the dynamic of Angela and Charles's marriage.

1143
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 2: But a lot of people are saying rid flags to

1144
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 2: match Angela's red dress.

1145
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 1: Did y'all see Charles and Angela's dynamic as a concern?

1146
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 3: No?

1147
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 7: No, I did not.

1148
00:58:55,040 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 6: If anybody has been around Charles in the past, he's

1149
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 6: a very nonchalant person period, Like you know, he's just late,

1150
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 6: he's laid back. So this is the first we're seeing

1151
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 6: of them people, you have to know who you're who

1152
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 6: you're who the players are laid.

1153
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 7: He's not all.

1154
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 6: You know I think, yes from back in the day. Yes, Yeah,

1155
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 6: that's he's not. He's not being anything other than himself.

1156
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 8: First of all, that's her husband, right, they've been married

1157
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 8: for a long time and he's fully appearing, fully filming

1158
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 8: with her. He wants her to have the spotlight like

1159
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 8: in their scene, in their scenes, excuse me, like his

1160
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 8: personality shows, but he's not trying.

1161
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 3: To steal the spotlight from her. He loves that woman.

1162
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 8: He's filming with her, he's contributing to her, contribution to

1163
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 8: the show in a way that is great. And I think,

1164
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 8: just like Carlo said, he's sarcastic, a shit talker, you

1165
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 8: know what I'm saying. And they have that kind of

1166
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 8: banter with with with each other other. They go back

1167
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 8: and forth. But I don't think that it indicates nor

1168
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 8: reflects a break or a red flag in their marriage.

1169
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 8: Their relationship is just fine. He's just talking shit. He

1170
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 8: don't care about this TV shit. That man is an

1171
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 8: NBA legend, you know what I'm saying. This is just

1172
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 8: another project to him that his wife is doing so

1173
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 8: he's not even fully invested in I'm assuming these are

1174
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 8: all assumptions, right, but based on what we've seen, I'm

1175
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 8: assuming he's not invested like that in the show, and

1176
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 8: he figures when the cameras come on, let's talk a

1177
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 8: little shit, let's be playful with each other. And she

1178
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 8: doesn't seem to be offended by it at all. She

1179
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 8: feels completely secure in her relationship. So I'm here for it.

1180
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 8: I like it. Charles Oakley is funny to me.

1181
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna lie at first because I love Angel

1182
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 4: so much, and she was like, ooh, Like, I just

1183
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 4: understand how those scenes will be misinterpreted by people if

1184
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 4: you're not familiar with their relationship. Now again, I got

1185
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 4: to use a personal example when I did I did

1186
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 4: a reality show with kJ right and.

1187
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 5: We got raped.

1188
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 3: No, it was a couple, right, I'm we were.

1189
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 4: In a really good place and we went on that show,

1190
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 4: right like we were cool. We just honestly went on

1191
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 4: there to get money. Okay, we were like, we're fine, right,

1192
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 4: But in one scene, yeah, and at the time, we

1193
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 4: weren't having electric sex at the time because we were

1194
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 4: three years.

1195
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 5: In right, and it was kind of like and we

1196
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 5: went through COVID.

1197
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 4: We just got out of COVID whereagon you know, we

1198
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 4: just sat around eating food stuff on our face every day. Anyways,

1199
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 4: long term show, we talked to each other kind of

1200
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 4: like like like we talked shit to each other, and

1201
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 4: and outside of looking and hearing us for the first time,

1202
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 4: we'd be like yo. But then he's also helped me

1203
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 4: take tracks out. He's also clipping my cat's toenails. He's

1204
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 4: also giving me back, rubbing my dry ass, tore up heels,

1205
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 4: putting lotion on my feet after he puts the lotion

1206
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 4: in the microwave, like you don't see that but on TV.

1207
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 4: So when there was a scene in the show where

1208
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 4: they asked if he was physically sexually attracted me at

1209
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 4: the time, Now I was feeling no the time, and

1210
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 4: he would feeling no the time. I lied to try

1211
01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 4: to protect him on TV, he didn't and everyone hated him.

1212
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 4: Everyone thought that I was with the man that even

1213
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 4: the comments I seen some people, you was with a

1214
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 4: man that didn't even want you pus see No, you

1215
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 4: gotta understand there's different kinds of relationships. There's some people

1216
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 4: go on TV and be at a piano and act

1217
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,920
Speaker 4: like they're so in love and talk that shit me

1218
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 4: me right, Like there's men that do with that performative bullshit,

1219
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 4: but then they'll treat you fucked up. Then there's guys

1220
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 4: that may come off rough around the edges like that.

1221
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 4: But she understands her man sense to him, and I

1222
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 4: don't think Angel would have him on there if he

1223
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:29,320
Speaker 4: was really meaning that.

1224
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 6: Now.

1225
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 4: I didn't like it at first outside looking at him,

1226
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 4: but then I had to think, No, there's a lot

1227
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 4: of relationships like that, and like Dustin said, they don't

1228
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 4: pay those guys any money. This is a multi millionaire

1229
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 4: legend from the NBA who's like, girl, I guess I'll

1230
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 4: come shoot today. I don't care about this shit. So

1231
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 4: he's going but like dragging his feet, like, ugh, whatever,

1232
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 4: I gotta hear about girl gossip. Do you think Charles

1233
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 4: Oakly wants to gives a shit about what Shamia and

1234
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 4: Portia and Kelly and brit You don't give a shit

1235
01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 4: about that. But he's in, he's there, and he's showing up.

1236
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 4: Is showing you he's supporting his wife?

1237
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, she's showing up and I give him all

1238
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 2: the prosper that. Okay, So next topic of conversation.

1239
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 7: He's still aware.

1240
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 1: Sorry, Claudia does to to BB. I'm just having fun tonight.

1241
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 2: Okay, So I want to get to Juice Dora and

1242
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 2: Ralph's scene, not I'm sorry. Rap wasn't in the scene.

1243
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 2: Juice So Dora is going through a divorce with Ralph.

1244
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 2: There was a scene between her and her mother. What

1245
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 2: we did learned this episode is that Ralph wants forty

1246
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 2: percent of Juice So Dora's company, which is jus So

1247
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:37,479
Speaker 2: Dora Llc.

1248
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 1: That she says she started before she even.

1249
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 2: Was married to Ralph. Ralph feels like he should have

1250
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 2: ownership with it. Drew's mother stated in this episode that

1251
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 2: their divorce is having an impact on the kids and

1252
01:03:56,160 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 2: how the kids are acting out so much so that Mom,

1253
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 2: the grandmother, said they're even acting out to me, the grandmother,

1254
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 2: and that never happens. Druse Door broke down, left the scene,

1255
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 2: and it goes to show you what was going on

1256
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 2: in this Ralph was not able to defend himself in

1257
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 2: the episode, but Honey Bunny Rap did defend himself on Twitter.

1258
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 1: Rap did a series of tweets.

1259
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 2: He did mention that he wanted Druse Dora's mother to

1260
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 2: pretty much keep her his name out of her mouth

1261
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 2: because he was there for her when she took all

1262
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:38,439
Speaker 2: of her husband's money and needed something. Juse Dora's father

1263
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 2: is now deceased. Juic So Dora retweeted and said, to

1264
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 2: keep her father's name out of it and her mother's.

1265
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 2: And you're doing a good job playing a victim. He said,

1266
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 2: you did too, and then dru so Dor said, you're

1267
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 2: doing a good job holding a peach. Based on that

1268
01:04:55,920 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 2: entire dynamic, do you think Ralph deserves of Drew's company?

1269
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 2: I want to start with Claudia.

1270
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 5: Hell no, no, I don't.

1271
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 4: That's very corny, Like you're not getting forty percent of

1272
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 4: my companies? Why why do you need for That's the

1273
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 4: company she had before they got together, isn't it. No,

1274
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 4: absolutely not, just like she shouldn't get forty percent of

1275
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 4: his what he had before her. I've always been a

1276
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 4: believer of that, Like you do not take stuff that

1277
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 4: I built and acquired before you came in the picture.

1278
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 5: Absolutely not.

1279
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 4: Now you can talk about in a marriage, there's marital

1280
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 4: assets that you can maybe have a conversation about that,

1281
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 4: But before I even married, absolutely Now, can you imagine

1282
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 4: all the work that all of us are done on

1283
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 4: this panel.

1284
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 5: We marry so and tomorrow and they say.

1285
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:43,479
Speaker 4: I get forty percent of what I got, you got

1286
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 4: before E got.

1287
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 5: No. No, he's being patty at this point.

1288
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 6: Me, me, I don't know the details of this situation.

1289
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 6: How long did she have the company before they got married?

1290
01:05:57,960 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 7: Do we know these details?

1291
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 2: She said that she had it before they were married.

1292
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 2: They got married five months after dating.

1293
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 6: Of her company. If this was something that they've been

1294
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 6: working on throughout the course of their marriage, and they've

1295
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 6: been married for nine ten years together and he has

1296
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 6: helped her every step of the way with her career,

1297
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 6: which is to my understanding, you know that that that

1298
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 6: probably was the situation. I think he might be entitled

1299
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:38,440
Speaker 6: to some of it, maybe not forty percent, but something

1300
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 6: if he's been there and been the backbone of the

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01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 6: situation the entire time.

1302
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 8: This is why there are resources and things available to

1303
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 8: people like prenuptial agreements to iron all this kind of

1304
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 8: dumb shit out in the first place, Especially by the

1305
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 8: time they were coupled. Drew was fully in the business

1306
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 8: of being Drusidora right, and so she should have known

1307
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 8: better than to protect herself, you know, and I than

1308
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 8: to not be protected in that way. I thought that

1309
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 8: was some real emotion from Drew for once that we

1310
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 8: got on the show, when she was crying about her children.

1311
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. She was sensitive about that.

1312
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 8: And I don't have kids, but I can imagine anybody

1313
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 8: with kids would be sensitive when you're discussing the way

1314
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:22,439
Speaker 8: that they're reacting to a change in the home like that.

1315
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 3: And so I thought, you know, on some g shit.

1316
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:28,160
Speaker 8: I didn't think it was appropriate for him to be

1317
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 8: talking shit about her mama online. To me, it was

1318
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 8: completely ineffective. All he was doing was speaking to the

1319
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 8: audience and fueling gossip and rumors and driving that engine

1320
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 8: of negativity that has really harmed his marriage in the

1321
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 8: first place. So he shouldn't have been smarter than that.

1322
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 8: He should have been a more mature I'm sure his

1323
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:47,920
Speaker 8: emotions are running high too, though, you know what I'm saying,

1324
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 8: And so this is just what we end up with.

1325
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 8: I would like to see you and her mama discuss

1326
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 8: Drew as a person who she is. That's what I

1327
01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 8: would like to see you and her mom discuss on camera.

1328
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 8: We all know her mom is she works in ministry,

1329
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 8: I believe, and she's a pastor or a spiritual advisor

1330
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 8: or something like that. What would be good for the

1331
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 8: fans to sy is Drew having a come to Jesus

1332
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 8: moment with her mama, like, Mama, this is who I am.

1333
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:15,440
Speaker 8: These are some of the decisions that I've made, and

1334
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:17,680
Speaker 8: this is the woman that I am today, and I'm

1335
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 8: gonna walk in those shoes fully, you know what I'm saying.

1336
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:23,240
Speaker 8: We haven't seen that. So when Drew decides to be

1337
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 8: real about the way that she feels emotion connected to

1338
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:29,640
Speaker 8: her kids dealing with this divorce, that's great, But we

1339
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:31,639
Speaker 8: still don't know who Drew is because Drew be lying

1340
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:32,599
Speaker 8: all the time on the show.

1341
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:35,600
Speaker 3: That's just the reality of it. So that little.

1342
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 8: Slim glamor of honesty was great and it was real

1343
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:41,679
Speaker 8: and we appreciated it because it's very vulnerable to share.

1344
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 8: But I'm not interested in no conversations between Drew and

1345
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 8: her mama, to be honest with you, I'm not.

1346
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 2: Are you interested in a conversation between Drew and Wrap

1347
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:54,599
Speaker 2: as it relates to what's been going on on social media?

1348
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 1: So I want to get your thoughts on this.

1349
01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 2: So they didn't have this beef on social media that

1350
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 2: occurred last night, just based on everything that Ralph has

1351
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:10,679
Speaker 2: said about Drew last week, he intimated that he filed

1352
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 2: for divorce because Drew allegedly was messing around with Tie,

1353
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 2: which is Mimi Files, his ex girlfriend. When we did

1354
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 2: speak about that last week, Claudia Jordan made a very

1355
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 2: poignant statement that left me and Dustin Ross.

1356
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:36,560
Speaker 1: We gagged. Claudia Jordan alleged that Tie.

1357
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 2: Your former girlfriend, Mimi, is an opportunist and that she

1358
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:45,400
Speaker 2: only dates women on reality television, and that she did

1359
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 2: say to you and y'all were friends, that you need

1360
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 2: to watch out for her. She's not the right one

1361
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:53,639
Speaker 2: for you. I don't feel good about her. We are

1362
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 2: watching Basketball Wives this season, which, by the way, Basketball

1363
01:09:57,040 --> 01:10:00,160
Speaker 2: Wives is great this season for those who watched a

1364
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 2: really good season. Mimi, have you watched Basketball Wives? Okay,

1365
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 2: I'll take what happened? So on basketball.

1366
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 1: Quaudia, here we go, shifting gears. So on Basketball watch

1367
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:16,599
Speaker 1: this season.

1368
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:25,400
Speaker 2: I'd love it this Seasonmingleminglely and Tye used to date.

1369
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:30,000
Speaker 2: And she saw on Ty's phone that she was calling

1370
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 2: Juice of Door for fifty hours and she acts, Siri

1371
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 2: or her Apple iPhone sixteen pro macs. What is no

1372
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 2: we speak on hundred and seventy minutes?

1373
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 1: What are those in hours? Siri said, girl, that's fifty.

1374
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 1: That's beit the Avas child and Ty said that they.

1375
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 2: Had conversation because she was going through a divorce. You know,

1376
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 2: Claudia thinks Ties an opportunists? Do you Mimi Files being

1377
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 2: in a relationship with her for how long was it?

1378
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:03,320
Speaker 7: Almost seven years?

1379
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:06,639
Speaker 2: You were in a relationship with Tie for seven years?

1380
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:11,720
Speaker 2: It's Tie an opportunist who only dates women who are

1381
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 2: famous because of a come up after me, Yes.

1382
01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 7: I was her step on the ladder, and now it's yes.

1383
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 1: Why do you feel that way?

1384
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:27,840
Speaker 6: Look at it the whole situation with Drew and I

1385
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:29,720
Speaker 6: know they want to say they're just friends, but I

1386
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:34,760
Speaker 6: know different. And then hanging around Drew, here comes me

1387
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:37,800
Speaker 6: and then me and now Basketball Wives and it's just

1388
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 6: you know, it's just a stepping up that ladder.

1389
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 4: Girl, she's been all three franchises, like she's found Vagon

1390
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 4: on all three, like she found Basketball Wives, loving hip

1391
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 4: Hop and Atlanta Housewives.

1392
01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 5: Like she's like, no, I'm not going to make my joke,

1393
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 5: but she's.

1394
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 7: Tigging them around, clauding her.

1395
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 5: It was really hard to do it.

1396
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 4: I'll say what I was gonna say in the group

1397
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:08,800
Speaker 4: chat with you guys after this.

1398
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 2: So when it when it when it, when it comes

1399
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 2: to to tie, do you think ty Ever really loved you?

1400
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 7: Yeah? I think she did.

1401
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 6: I also think she had you know, she had her

1402
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 6: reasons why, you know, I'll tell you this, And I

1403
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 6: should have taken heed when when when it was given

1404
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:42,280
Speaker 6: to me. But like early on in our relationship, she

1405
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:44,559
Speaker 6: told me that she was a fan of mine. This

1406
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 6: is when we were already we had already started dating.

1407
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:50,599
Speaker 6: So if someone, if someone that you're dating, reviews to

1408
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 6: you that they were a fan of yours mm hmm.

1409
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 6: She told me she was watching the show with her

1410
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 6: girlfriend and the girl and he's like, is this going

1411
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:02,880
Speaker 6: to be a problem.

1412
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 5: Oh, somebody said t is gonna be on Huntsville next.

1413
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:11,400
Speaker 3: Why would Carlos far out.

1414
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 5: Left love and married Detroit tie tie Christina, Oh there's

1415
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 5: a new divorce. Let me swoop on in and get

1416
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:25,640
Speaker 5: with someone divorce. Let me be your comforted girlfriend.

1417
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 2: I would like to end by saying this tomorrow, I

1418
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:33,680
Speaker 2: am dropped.

1419
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:39,280
Speaker 5: She's gonna vb one day. You're a big motherfucker too.

1420
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:41,679
Speaker 5: She's like six two ninety.

1421
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:45,200
Speaker 1: I'll watch you basketball eyes and listen.

1422
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:47,840
Speaker 2: I bet Tie because Memi is my friend in real life,

1423
01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:49,160
Speaker 2: so I met her once.

1424
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:57,759
Speaker 1: Ty Ty has tie. Ty has swag and tie for sure. Listen.

1425
01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:02,880
Speaker 2: I don't like women, obviously I have she How can

1426
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:07,880
Speaker 2: I describe it? She has this appeal, thank you, thank you, Dustin,

1427
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:15,640
Speaker 2: Tie is very charismatic. I'm watching her basketball lives and

1428
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:17,520
Speaker 2: it's she's very charismatic.

1429
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 5: Like Dustin said, she showed this is the third reality show.

1430
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:26,560
Speaker 5: I mean, she's a veteran at this point, she's.

1431
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 1: She's damn man, New York's.

1432
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 4: Level this point, she's been on more shows in New York,

1433
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:32,760
Speaker 4: like what the hell new York is the queen of

1434
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:35,720
Speaker 4: reality TV. That's a shade in New York because she's

1435
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:36,120
Speaker 4: the queen.

1436
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 1: Tie is the queen of reality television.

1437
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:45,479
Speaker 7: Damn man, He's a veteran. Now franchises who was.

1438
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:48,240
Speaker 4: Then answer that the like multiple sports was at be

1439
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:52,639
Speaker 4: like both both bo ne mine, I'm asking the wrong people.

1440
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 8: They were a football player Wana Leonard, the lady that

1441
01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 8: was married to Sugar Ray Leonard, and football baseball player.

1442
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 8: Is she married? She was married to a lot of.

1443
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 1: Bo Jackson.

1444
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:07,600
Speaker 5: He did baseball football.

1445
01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 4: Ty has been a more reality show than bo Bo

1446
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:14,679
Speaker 4: Jackson has been in sports. Tye is the bo Jackson

1447
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:17,120
Speaker 4: of reality show relationships to women.

1448
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:21,120
Speaker 5: It's crazy. I need to get a gun.

1449
01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:22,479
Speaker 4: But I'm gonna get a gun by the way, and

1450
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 4: ty if you come over here, I know you be

1451
01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:26,680
Speaker 4: in Dallas a lot. I got a baseball bat by

1452
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:27,559
Speaker 4: the door, and it's a right.

1453
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:30,760
Speaker 3: Now.

1454
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:32,439
Speaker 5: Someone to come to me. I don't want to come

1455
01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 5: beat me up. Ty is fine.

1456
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:37,840
Speaker 1: I think Tye is cool enough.

1457
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 5: I don't like me. I don't like me right me.

1458
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know, I know, But I

1459
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:43,840
Speaker 1: will say this.

1460
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:48,280
Speaker 2: I am dropping my exclusive interview tomorrow and I am

1461
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:58,559
Speaker 2: drum roll listen forks please, I'm dropping my exclusive rain

1462
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:07,200
Speaker 2: drops tomorrow with I sit down with Drew so Doora

1463
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:12,640
Speaker 2: and she answers every single question.

1464
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:13,800
Speaker 3: JU do.

1465
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:17,400
Speaker 1: Truthfully.

1466
01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:21,800
Speaker 2: I asked her about Ti, I asked about Ralph. We

1467
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:26,799
Speaker 2: spoke about the girls on the show. We spoke about

1468
01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 2: me feeling early on that she was acting on the show.

1469
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 1: We get to everything.

1470
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:35,719
Speaker 2: She literally sat down and said, you need to ask

1471
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 2: me everything today so much so Drew so Doorra had

1472
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 2: a a a a booking that was scheduled after our interview.

1473
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:49,639
Speaker 1: She canceled her booking to talk to me more.

1474
01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 2: Because she said, after I speak to you, I don't

1475
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:55,519
Speaker 2: want to deal with this anymore. And it was a

1476
01:16:55,640 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 2: very truthful, honest conversation. I'm dropping that to tomorrow on

1477
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 2: my YouTube channel. Makes y'all suscribe, and she we get

1478
01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 2: into it, We get into it, so I can't wait

1479
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 2: for y'all to watch it because I'm pretty sure we'll

1480
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:10,360
Speaker 2: talk about it next Monday.

1481
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 7: Carlos, you do know she's an actress. You do know this, Yes.

1482
01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:19,200
Speaker 6: Okay, I just wanted to throw that out there.

1483
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 4: Were you surprised anything in the interview where you gagged

1484
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:24,200
Speaker 4: in the interview where you like, did she tell you

1485
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 4: things that you thought she might lie about this?

1486
01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:31,679
Speaker 2: And she actually I was surprised that she was answering

1487
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 2: all my questions. I mean, and and and and and

1488
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 2: and and The one thing Drew did that is rare,

1489
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 2: and interviews you did it to me once. It's rare

1490
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:49,320
Speaker 2: when this happens. Drew Sidora encouraged me to go deeper

1491
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:52,439
Speaker 2: in in the in the conversation. She said, no, let's

1492
01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:56,120
Speaker 2: talk about it. And I was like, she said, she said,

1493
01:17:56,240 --> 01:18:01,600
Speaker 2: I've been waiting for this for two years. I've canceled interviews.

1494
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:02,719
Speaker 2: I've been waiting on you.

1495
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:03,799
Speaker 1: She said.

1496
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:06,920
Speaker 2: You you are somebody who I feel like give people

1497
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:09,920
Speaker 2: a chance. You humanize people. And she said, I know

1498
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 2: everything you want to ask me. Ask me, and she

1499
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 2: Drew sa Door answered every single question and prolonged the

1500
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 2: interview to make sure she answered every question.

1501
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:22,599
Speaker 5: Why won't any have her on What's What Happens Live?

1502
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:23,960
Speaker 5: Why is she's never been on that show?

1503
01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1504
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:26,679
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think maybe because of scheduling.

1505
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 2: I know she was doing a movie as well, so

1506
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:31,600
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know, but we didn't we

1507
01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:34,320
Speaker 2: didn't talk about that, but I do know she's been

1508
01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:40,400
Speaker 2: doing movies and this interview happened because she was able

1509
01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 2: to have a free time or schedule. Like I said,

1510
01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 2: she canceled a booking that was scheduled after mind so listen,

1511
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 2: no shade to the world.

1512
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 1: But Drew is booked and busy.

1513
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:53,120
Speaker 2: But we had a real conversation and I think you

1514
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:58,320
Speaker 2: guys will be pleasantly surprised by the interview.

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Speaker 5: Maybe what's that look?

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Speaker 3: MEMI?

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01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:03,000
Speaker 5: What's that look? I know you? What's that look?

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01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:03,280
Speaker 2: Me? Me?

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01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:04,080
Speaker 7: Wait?

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01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:09,120
Speaker 6: I would like to watch the interview and then I

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01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:10,760
Speaker 6: would like to have a conversation after.

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01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so the thing.

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01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:22,880
Speaker 2: So I'm dropping the interview tomorrow at ten am. So

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01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:27,519
Speaker 2: to all of my people who work, please tell your

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01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:29,280
Speaker 2: boss that you have.

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01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:31,559
Speaker 1: An important meeting between ten and eleven.

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01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:37,080
Speaker 2: Put on your headphones and your head scarf to hide it,

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01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 2: and watch the interview and listen to it, and next

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01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:41,800
Speaker 2: week we'll talk about it.

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Speaker 1: It's ten am Eastern range Robs. So all right, So Claudia,

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01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:45,559
Speaker 1: me me does.

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01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:48,600
Speaker 2: Is there anything you guys want to promote before I

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01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:49,479
Speaker 2: let y'all go?

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01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:54,719
Speaker 6: Yes, I had a skin care line coming out called

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01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:55,679
Speaker 6: Old Rainy's Skin.

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01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:02,719
Speaker 7: Stay tuned for that. It's coming out very soon.

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01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:09,040
Speaker 6: Facial products, face wash, toner, moisturizer, And that's just for starters.

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01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:11,040
Speaker 6: And I have a whole host of other things coming

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01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:14,559
Speaker 6: facial wise, skincare after that.

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01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:17,679
Speaker 5: That's not all. That's not all.

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01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:18,479
Speaker 7: That's not all.

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01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:22,120
Speaker 6: Two things. I had my feet done. I can't wait

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01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:23,960
Speaker 6: to show you guys my feet. I had my feet done,

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01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 6: same doctor, that did Claudia's feed. I got brand new feed.

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01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:30,160
Speaker 6: It's absolutely amazing. But I have a show coming out

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01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 6: called Cleaning Up My Life. Claudia is the executive producer

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01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:40,000
Speaker 6: of the show, and it's following my transition from my

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01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:44,080
Speaker 6: time on television to my time off of television to

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01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:47,559
Speaker 6: me getting to where I am right now and moving beyond.

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01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:49,479
Speaker 7: So look forward to that point.

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01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:51,800
Speaker 5: Yes, so happy for her.

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01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:53,200
Speaker 1: Congratulations Mimi.

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01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 2: You know I want to see you in in every

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01:20:56,240 --> 01:21:00,479
Speaker 2: single aspect of your entire existence, So continue to do that.

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01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:04,240
Speaker 2: And I love the fact that you're in Claudia, are

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01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:08,800
Speaker 2: producing shows together because the future of this business is

1557
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 2: doing more independent projects and not waiting for people to

1558
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:15,479
Speaker 2: call you, but for you to do your own doing.

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01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:17,080
Speaker 2: So I'm proud of you you for that.

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01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:20,759
Speaker 5: Thank you, and please, producers out there. I know Mimi's

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01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:21,280
Speaker 5: in Atlanta.

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01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:24,040
Speaker 4: There's so many people that are shooting films. Please call

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01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:26,080
Speaker 4: my girl, Mimi. We work together recently on a film,

1564
01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:29,320
Speaker 4: and she does her thing. Mimi can act, she can host,

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01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 4: she's fun, she's very transparent. She's a great person to interview. Like,

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01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:35,639
Speaker 4: I really want y'all to blow up her line, blow

1567
01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:38,960
Speaker 4: up her phones. I need a good representation for her

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01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:41,599
Speaker 4: in Atlanta. There's a lot of films out there and

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01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:43,600
Speaker 4: we want to see more of her on our screens

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01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:45,040
Speaker 4: in all capacities.

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01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:46,280
Speaker 5: So I think she's really good.

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01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 7: And that's what friends do.

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01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:52,560
Speaker 6: Like Claudia has every step of the way, any opportunity

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01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:54,759
Speaker 6: that she's found, she's put it in my lap.

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01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 7: That's what friends do. Thank you, friend, you and my.

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01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:03,160
Speaker 4: Real friend, thank you, and thanks for coming to the play.

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01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:04,640
Speaker 4: She's at my play this weekend. We had such a

1578
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:09,519
Speaker 4: good time. We get to hang out in Atlanta. Oh yeah, yes,

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01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:11,080
Speaker 4: I told him, marn I'm like, y'all need to use

1580
01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:13,760
Speaker 4: me on something. I told Ja Carries. The play is over.

1581
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:16,120
Speaker 4: It was My last city was last night in Charlotte.

1582
01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:19,400
Speaker 4: I'm so exhausted. But it was a great run. And

1583
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:21,960
Speaker 4: shout out to Jakarius Johnson, carl Paying, the entire cast.

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01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:24,200
Speaker 5: It was so good. It was. It was a good time.

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01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:25,519
Speaker 5: Demetria is on there as well.

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01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:32,400
Speaker 4: She did her thing, Jill, Marie Jones, Flex, Alexander Brian J. White,

1587
01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 4: who else, uh Naomi Brocker. It's the whole cast is

1588
01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:40,400
Speaker 4: just really really good. And my podcast on Wednesdays with

1589
01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 4: Erica accidentally informed, and now I'm looking for my next

1590
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:46,000
Speaker 4: gig like I'm I'm I have time now, so I'm

1591
01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:47,120
Speaker 4: looking if I'm my next gig.

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01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:49,320
Speaker 5: I think i've this produced. I know Carlos King like

1593
01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:51,640
Speaker 5: you need to do something in Dallas. We talked about it,

1594
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:52,759
Speaker 5: but we'll see what happens.

1595
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 1: I don't know, Dastin, what you got going on.

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01:22:57,400 --> 01:22:59,559
Speaker 8: Well, right now I have my thinking cap on because

1597
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:02,760
Speaker 8: that would be dope, A hot single girl show in

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01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:05,520
Speaker 8: Dallas about Claudia and all her dope ass homegirls.

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01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. With that Kingdom Rain Entertainments.

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01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 4: Down, he got the dead, he got the deck.

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01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:17,240
Speaker 8: Yeah, listen, I'm very excited. You can go to Dustin

1602
01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:20,040
Speaker 8: rosslive dot com and see all my upcoming tour days

1603
01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:22,639
Speaker 8: for my stand up comedy tour, We're kicking things off

1604
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:26,479
Speaker 8: May thirty first in Seattle. Then we're going to La Chicago,

1605
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:30,640
Speaker 8: Saint Louis, Philly, d C. San Frien, Atlanta, and we

1606
01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:32,840
Speaker 8: got two more shows We're about to announce that people

1607
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 8: are going to be excited about.

1608
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:35,360
Speaker 3: So I'm happy right now.

1609
01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:37,320
Speaker 8: I was trying out all my jokes and the ubers

1610
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:38,760
Speaker 8: and shit when I was in La and all their

1611
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:39,679
Speaker 8: shoulders were shaking.

1612
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:44,160
Speaker 3: They was laughing. You know what I'm saying. So looking

1613
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:45,160
Speaker 3: forward to that. Fuck with me.

1614
01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:47,680
Speaker 8: Go to Dustin Rosslive dot com, pull up and get

1615
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:48,240
Speaker 8: your laugh on.

1616
01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:49,080
Speaker 3: Have a great night.

1617
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:52,599
Speaker 8: Congratulations to you ladies on your new project. I love

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01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:55,519
Speaker 8: seeing you do your thing. Claudia Carlos, congratulations to you

1619
01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:58,360
Speaker 8: on every damn thing. Because I didn't get to speak

1620
01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 8: on it earlier. But the Loving Ah Detroit Reunion Part

1621
01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:04,759
Speaker 8: two is incredible, so we definitely have to talk about

1622
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:05,760
Speaker 8: that soon.

1623
01:24:06,280 --> 01:24:08,040
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's what's up with me.

1624
01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 4: We can't wait to go see your show, Dustin. Are

1625
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:14,519
Speaker 4: we still on for d c Carlos, Yes we are.

1626
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:16,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't wait.

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01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:20,680
Speaker 3: And I'm glad we're Carlos.

1628
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:26,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have no listen to be able to to

1629
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:30,760
Speaker 2: be able to be in the faces of you two

1630
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 2: in person, and you know, and we're all gonna be

1631
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 2: there maybe the other so we can.

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01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:37,640
Speaker 3: Do over there you never know, why not, let's do

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01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:39,800
Speaker 3: it m M again.

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01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:41,639
Speaker 5: I'm sensing myself, Carlos, I'm growing.

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01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:51,720
Speaker 2: Quarter is the only person about life that makes me

1636
01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:57,120
Speaker 2: giggle in a very shocking, uncomfortable and surprising way.

1637
01:24:57,320 --> 01:24:57,639
Speaker 3: You are.

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01:24:58,200 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 5: I'd like to go right to the edge where you

1639
01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:00,639
Speaker 5: think I'm about.

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01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 1: Yes, it's all good, but no, I love the three

1641
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:07,799
Speaker 1: of y'all obviously.

1642
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:11,599
Speaker 2: Mimi follows. Thanks for coming in to Monday Night Live.

1643
01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:15,280
Speaker 2: You are my friend for life and you know that already.

1644
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:18,360
Speaker 2: But thank you for coming on and you are more

1645
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:21,840
Speaker 2: than welcome to comeback any and every time. Keep your

1646
01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:25,520
Speaker 2: phone on and dustin quality. I will see y'all next Monday.

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01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:30,560
Speaker 5: Thank you, Carlos, all.

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01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:36,760
Speaker 1: Right, love you guys. Thank you for listening to Reality

1649
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:37,320
Speaker 1: with the Kings.

1650
01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:43,400
Speaker 2: New episodes drop on Tuesdays and Thursdays. Share, comment, follow,

1651
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:47,160
Speaker 2: and subscribe to Reality with the King wherever you get

1652
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:51,519
Speaker 2: to your podcast, visit Reality withthe King dot com and

1653
01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:54,960
Speaker 2: be sure to follow me at the Carlos King Underscore

1654
01:25:55,160 --> 01:26:00,000
Speaker 2: on Instagram, Twitter, TikTok and yes, baby, my YouTube channel

1655
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:04,280
Speaker 2: where you could get all of my visuals, baby, my expressions. Yeah,

1656
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:07,400
Speaker 2: and don't forget Tweet me your thoughts and hot takes

1657
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:12,599
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01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:17,440
Speaker 2: Reality with the King is a production of Kingdom Rain Entertainment,

1659
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 2: an executive produced by me Carlos King.

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Speaker 1: Kingdom Rain Entertainment baby,