1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to I've never said this before with 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: me Tommy de Dario. I hope you all are feeling 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: festive because we are officially kicking off the holiday season 4 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: with the guests. Who is bringing some much welcome cheer. 5 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: The wonderful actress Sarah Drew joins me today, who you 6 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 1: know and you'd love from playing the fan favorite roles 7 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: of Doctor April for nine seasons on Grey's Anatomy, Hannah 8 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: Rodgers and Everwood and many more beloved roles. But today 9 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 1: she is serving you some Christmas joy because she stars 10 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 1: in the new series and Mistletoe Murders for the new 11 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: streaming service Hallmark Plus. And Mistletoe Murders It's out now. 12 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: She plays Emily Lane in a show that blends the 13 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 1: mystery and the intrigue of Veronica Mars, which was such 14 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: an epic show with the festive charm of course of 15 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: Hallmark's holiday programming. Who doesn't love a little mystery at 16 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: Christmas time? 17 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: Right? Sign me up? 18 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: So go grab a comfy blanket and a hot cup 19 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: of cheer. As we reflect on Sarah's past fan favorite work. Yes, 20 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: we shot lots about Cray's Anatomy. We dive into her 21 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: journey and some of the struggles she's faced along the 22 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: way and how she's overcome them, and we celebrate this. 23 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 2: New chapter of her career. 24 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: So let's see if today we can get Sarah to 25 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: say something that she has never said before. Sarah Drew, 26 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: it is so good to see you. 27 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 2: How are you, my friend? 28 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 3: So good? I'm good. I'm in a good stage in 29 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 3: my life. 30 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: We love to hear I am fantastic. I am fantastic. 31 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: But it's not about me, because I am now talking 32 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: to a cover model, Miss Thing, a cover model, a 33 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: cover model. Yeah, I see you, I see you, powerful 34 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: woman in Hollywood, tell me about. 35 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 2: This stop it? 36 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean I just went to the Variety Power 37 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 3: of Women event last night, and it's just ridiculous to 38 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 3: be invited into that room with so many and credible 39 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 3: powerhouse women making changes in the world and within Hollywood itself. 40 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 3: You know, I feel really grateful though, because I think 41 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 3: from my very first professional show was led by a woman, 42 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 3: and then my first my ever would the showrunner was female, 43 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 3: and then Gray's Anatomy obviously is like a matriarchy, you know. 44 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 3: So I've had so many incredible women in leadership from 45 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 3: like this jump in my career. So it's been exciting 46 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 3: to get to sort of expand after having had the 47 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 3: beautiful exams, so many beautiful examples. 48 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: Well, isn't it cool that you're also one of those 49 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: powerful women in leadership like you looked up to so 50 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,959 Speaker 1: many in your career, and here you are doing the 51 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: damn thing. That must feel pretty good. 52 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 3: It feels really good, you know. I think I still, 53 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 3: especially at events like last night, I have like imposter 54 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 3: syndrome completely take over my body because I just feel like, 55 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 3: what am I doing here? I didn't get to be here. 56 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:05,839 Speaker 3: When I think about powerful leadership, I think about compassion, 57 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 3: I think about passion, I think about taking care of 58 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 3: the people that work for you. And so I don't know. 59 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 3: I think power in and of itself can have a 60 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 3: negative connotation, But so I don't. I just don't. I 61 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 3: don't know that I feel like I belong there, But 62 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 3: I know that I love leading, and I've been in 63 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 3: this sort of leadership era over the last six years 64 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 3: that has been so gratifying and so beautiful. Just getting 65 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 3: to kind of stretch my wings a little bit in 66 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 3: that regard. 67 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: Well, you earned it, You've put in the time, you've 68 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: put in the work, You've had such an incredible career, 69 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: and it's nice that you're at a point where now 70 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: you can be more in a leadership role and kind 71 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: of call the shots a little bit more and pave 72 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: the way in the way that you want to pave it. 73 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: So it's all really really cool, and I'm excited for you. 74 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: In this chapter of your life, we of course have 75 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: to reflect a bit on some of your fan favorite work, right, 76 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: So I feel like the project that put you on 77 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: the map is a small little show, Gray's Anatomy that. 78 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 3: Probably no little show, no. 79 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: Er, no, nobody's heard of it, right, And you were 80 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: part of that for I believe nine seasons, correct, seasons? Yeah, 81 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: nine seasons. 82 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 2: Wow. 83 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: So when you think back to your time on that, 84 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: what are you the most proud of? 85 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm proud of so many things. I mean, I've 86 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 3: forged some beautiful relationships that I will have with me 87 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 3: for the rest of my life. I'm really proud of 88 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 3: April's story and her arc and I you know, I 89 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 3: had the most incredible gift of getting to witness Sandra 90 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 3: Oh for several years while while we crossed over on 91 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 3: the show the way that she cared about her character 92 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 3: and her storyline and would advocate with with love and 93 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 3: passion to the writers, and there was such respect between 94 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 3: her and the writers. She really modeled a beautiful way 95 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 3: to get to collaborate in the journey of your character. 96 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 3: So I kind of took a page out of her book. 97 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 3: And when they made my character a person of faith, 98 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 3: that is something I know a great deal about, and 99 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 3: so I was like, I would love to just participate 100 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 3: in telling this story. Well, and Shonda Rhimes she said, welcome. 101 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 3: You know what all I want to do is tell 102 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 3: an authentic and beautiful story that feels real. So anytime 103 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 3: if something you know rubs against you, or anytime you 104 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 3: have an idea that you want to put forward, please 105 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 3: the door is open. We want to tell a really powerful, 106 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 3: complicated story about a person of faith. And I'm so 107 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 3: proud of I use my voice all the time for 108 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 3: the rest of the time I was on that show 109 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:51,559 Speaker 3: and got to really participate in the journey in April's journey, 110 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 3: and I think it made a pretty powerful impact on 111 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 3: a lot of people's lives. 112 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: She's a character who means a lot to so many. 113 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: How do you think you change as a person throughout 114 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: your life time on that show, because that's a long 115 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: time of your life to be involved in one project, 116 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: especially in the public facing way. Is there a way 117 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,359 Speaker 1: you can think of that you've really changed during that process. 118 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 3: I mean, so many things happened during that time. I 119 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 3: had both of my children, so I became a mother 120 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 3: while I was playing April. I go back and I 121 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 3: watch early episodes as April, and my voice changed, like 122 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 3: after having children, My voice got a little bit deeper. 123 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 3: It was like higher and more nasally when I first 124 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 3: joined the show. Also, they took me through so many 125 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 3: different twists and turns, and especially the episode that jumped 126 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 3: a whole year, and in that year, April went to 127 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 3: war and then came back and was a completely different 128 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 3: human and I had to figure out I had to 129 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,679 Speaker 3: fill in all the blanks that weren't on the screen 130 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 3: and create an entirely new person that still was her, 131 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 3: but different because that what was written in the script. 132 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 3: She's very different. But the challenge of getting to just 133 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 3: it was like I got to play six different characters 134 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 3: while I was on the show, So it was very challenging. 135 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 3: Pushed me in so many different ways as an artist, 136 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 3: just in terms of what I could carry in my 137 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 3: body and express in my body, and I bring that everywhere. 138 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 3: And also the being let Go taught me how to 139 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 3: surrender really and to hold things lightly and loosely in 140 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 3: this industry because things can change like that and you 141 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 3: never know what's going to happen. And it really forced 142 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 3: me to look at the deepest parts of my identity 143 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 3: and go, I'm still valuable, I'm still worthy, I'm still lovable. 144 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 3: I'm still a friend and a wife and a mother 145 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 3: and a sister and a daughter, like all of these 146 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 3: things that make me who I am, even if I 147 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 3: don't have this that has so identified me for so long. 148 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 3: So I mean, tell me, I changed so much during 149 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 3: those nine years. It was, you know, like earthquaking challenge 150 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 3: and change. 151 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: And I'm really glad you brought up being let Go 152 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: because that's something that's so hard for so many people 153 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: in any area of any career. 154 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: Right. 155 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: And I saw you all over the headlines lately for 156 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, your quote was everywhere quote mean and 157 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: unjust or something like that. 158 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 3: You know what's ridiculous too, It's just ridiculous clickbait headline 159 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 3: because as soon as you click on any of the articles. 160 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 3: The whole story, first of all, the irony, the whole story. 161 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 3: I was telling a silly story about clickbait headlines, about 162 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 3: one thing I said in an interview that then became 163 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 3: the headline everywhere, and then in the telling of that story, 164 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 3: it came clickbait headline again, Hollywood is gonna Hollywood. It's 165 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 3: just what it's going to do. The ridiculous thing. The 166 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 3: thing that was so sad about all those headlines is 167 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 3: that it made it seem so negative, and I was 168 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 3: telling a story about an overwhelming outpouring of love. Actually 169 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 3: it was that is my heartbeat, and the engine that 170 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 3: runs my life is like looking for the gold in 171 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 3: the moments of pain. And that's the story I was telling. 172 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,719 Speaker 3: And the only thing all the people wanted to put 173 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 3: on the headlines is the pain part. 174 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know, and I saw it everywhere, 175 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: and I'm like, there's got to be more to this, 176 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,959 Speaker 1: you know, And yes, you were, I imagine you did 177 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: probably feel that in the moment, but it wasn't The 178 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 1: story you were sharing wasn't about that. It was about 179 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: I imagine being able to like what you said, move 180 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,719 Speaker 1: on from something that that is painful, how to navigate that, 181 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: like so many people have to do, and not let 182 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: that define you for the rest of your life. I mean, 183 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 1: I imagine there was a period where you were a 184 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: little bruised, right, and you were like, okayly, how do 185 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 1: I kind of jump back on the horse? 186 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 2: So how did you move forward? 187 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: Because I think it's an import or a message for 188 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: anyone struggling with any sort of what they might feel 189 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: is rejection, right, yeah. 190 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 3: I mean the funny thing is I immediately felt such 191 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 3: overwhelming support and love immediately, like exactly when it happened. 192 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 3: I went back to my trailer and I had person 193 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 3: after person knocking on my door and coming and hugging me. 194 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 3: You know. Two days after that, I had four test 195 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 3: offers for four different leads and four different pilots sitting 196 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 3: on my desk. Fans organized a plane to fly over 197 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 3: and say how much they loved me and Jessica. You know, 198 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 3: like I think if the pain hadn't happened, that love 199 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 3: wouldn't have been so epic. And I mean the love 200 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 3: was so intense that you could reach out and touch it. 201 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 3: I was so overwhelmed with gratitude inside of that moment 202 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 3: of loss, that when Shonda and Betsy called me just 203 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 3: to say we love you, and you know, we're so 204 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 3: sad to say good bye, but you know we love 205 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 3: you forever, and I wept on the phone with them 206 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 3: and just couldn't think of anything except an outpouring of 207 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 3: gratitude because of all the things that I had learned 208 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 3: and how I'd grown, and the gift of the show 209 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 3: that the show had been to me. And that was genuine. 210 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 3: That wasn't me trying to just kiss anybody's ass. That 211 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 3: was an outpouring of the support that I received. So 212 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 3: I think for me, I've always I was raised to 213 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 3: hunt for the good in moments of pain. I believe 214 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 3: so strongly that we walked through life holding pain and 215 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 3: joy or pain and hope in both hands at all times. 216 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 3: We're always having little pains and little losses happen. And 217 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 3: how can we find what is beautiful and what is 218 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 3: good inside of that, Because if you're looking for it, 219 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 3: you will find it. If you're not looking for it, 220 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 3: you won't see it. But it's everywhere. The goodness is everywhere, 221 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 3: So I don't It's how I'm designed, It's the engine 222 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 3: that drives my life. And yes, it was a big grief. 223 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 3: There's no getting around it. It was a big pain 224 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 3: and it was a big grief. Watch that become the 225 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 3: headline of this podcast. I mean, don't let it happen. 226 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 3: Oh my god, no pressure, no control over it. Yes, 227 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 3: it was painful, and also it was so heart expanding 228 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 3: and growing. And I walked out into the world and 229 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 3: I started writing, and I started producing, and I'm directing 230 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 3: and I'm making my own stuff and I could not 231 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 3: be happier. 232 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: Whatever anyone listening believes in the universe, God, I believe 233 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 1: there are no mistakes or accidents, and you're really put 234 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: in the direction you're meant to go in. You know, 235 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: some of the biggest hardships we face in the moment, 236 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: it might be difficult to see the why, but I 237 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: always say, you gotta trust in that process. There is 238 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: a why and it will be become revealed. Look at 239 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: where you are now. You're doing the most incredible things. 240 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: And to be very clear, to put all the clickbit 241 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: and headlines aside. There is no ill will, no ill feelings. 242 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: You're good with the show, You're good with everyone. 243 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 2: All the things. 244 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you. They won't include that quote. But 245 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 3: you know you tried. 246 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 2: I'm trying. I'm trying for you. I'm trying, You're trying. 247 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 2: I'm trying. 248 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 3: I have so much love for that place and that 249 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 3: show and the experience and the great gift of the 250 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:37,239 Speaker 3: platform it gave me. And I couldn't say enough beautiful 251 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 3: things about that experience. And also it hurt, wasn't that 252 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 3: when I was like, Oh, like there's I don't there's 253 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 3: no getting around it. That's not a surprise. That shouldn't 254 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 3: be a headline. No. 255 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: I know, I know it's so wild and you have 256 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: so much going on. We're going to talk about one 257 00:13:53,160 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: of those things very shortly. Here's an interesting question, with 258 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: where you are in your life right now and with 259 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: everything you went through with that series, if there was 260 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: an opportunity where they said, hey, Sarah, we want you 261 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: to become full time again with where you are in 262 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: your life now, would you know. 263 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 3: That would be a no. I would come and do 264 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 3: like a fun arc, but like being locked in in 265 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 3: that world again. I'm doing too many other things that 266 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 3: I'm really excited about, you know, And I feel like 267 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 3: I really got to tell her story and I feel 268 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 3: really proud of April's story in April's journey, and again 269 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 3: I would love to hop back in and say hello, 270 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 3: that's the door is always open. But in terms of 271 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 3: like a long term you signing a three year contract 272 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 3: or whatever, I don't think so. I think I did. 273 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 3: I think I did it, you know. 274 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: And it's a beautiful place to be in where you're like, 275 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: what you just said, I did it, I loved it, 276 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: and I'm excited for everything else coming up, and you 277 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: can check off that you were a trending hash tag 278 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: off your resume. I mean, how many people can say 279 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: that with hashtag Japril you were a trending hashtag. 280 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 3: Jpril had power, man, Japril was powerful. That was fun. 281 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, like every week you're like, oh, it's trending, it's trending, 282 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: it's trending. 283 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 2: Not a lot of people can. 284 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 3: Say that, Well, thank you. I mean, the the other 285 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 3: half of that is that Jesse Williams, who's just I 286 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 3: love that guy so much. So we had such a 287 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 3: beautiful partnership on that show and really both cared about 288 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 3: the journey of it, and we're super invested and passionate 289 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 3: about telling that story and elevating it in every possible 290 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 3: way we could, and so it was really fun to 291 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 3: get to see the audience really embrace us. It was 292 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 3: really cool. 293 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it certainly is one of the most popular I 294 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: feel like couples in pop culture history, which must be fun. 295 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: But now now we're going to a whole other world 296 00:15:55,160 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: of Christmas and cheer and good tidings that we all 297 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: will bring. 298 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 2: Yes, all of it. I'm trying to keep going with the. 299 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: Murder and. 300 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 2: Murder. 301 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: So tell me about your new project, which sounds unbelievable 302 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: and so exciting. 303 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 3: Dude, it is so good. I'm so proud of it. So, 304 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 3: first of all, I had the most magical experience shooting 305 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 3: this show. We were in Toronto, and I'm just knocking 306 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 3: on all the wood for many more seasons because I 307 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 3: want to be with that cast and crew forever. I 308 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 3: love them. We had a like our set was just 309 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 3: joyous and we would laugh all the time. And but 310 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 3: the wonderful thing about this show is there's there's like 311 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 3: comedy and adventure and romance. The romance is really nice, 312 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 3: and mystery and intrigue and Christmas Like with the backdrop 313 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 3: of Christmas, it kind of fills for me like a 314 00:16:56,200 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 3: Veronica Mars sort of gap. There has like a Veronica 315 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 3: Marzy sort of feel to it, which was one of 316 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 3: my all time favorite shows. 317 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 2: Amazing. 318 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 3: That was so fun. So the experience of it was 319 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 3: so good, and I got to be an executive producer 320 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 3: on it, so I got to give input on scripts 321 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 3: and cuts and helped cast and like all of those 322 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 3: really fun things. But then when I saw the cuts 323 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 3: come in, I was just like, oh my gosh, this show. 324 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 3: Not only was it such a joyous experience, but the 325 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 3: show is so good. It moves, it's got everything you want, 326 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 3: and it's life affirming and it's hopeful, all the things 327 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 3: that make my heart sing as a person and as 328 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 3: an artist. It's like it's got everything. It's got everything. 329 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,719 Speaker 3: And my character is really fun because she's got this 330 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 3: secret past that starts to pop in and you get 331 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 3: little kind of breadcrumbs of it and flashbacks throughout the 332 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 3: first season, but you still don't, you know, you don't 333 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 3: get the whole picture yet, so there's miles to go 334 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 3: and miles of more story to tell. It's a very 335 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 3: very fun character. She kind of has two lives. Mmm. 336 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 2: Oh that's such a tease. 337 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 1: And I love the name Thistletone Murders. 338 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 3: Yes, well, it's based on an audible podcast and they 339 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 3: just released their third season. Actually, but we have all 340 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 3: different mysteries and Kobe Smolders plays it in the podcast, 341 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 3: which is super fun. But I but like, yeah, but 342 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 3: Ken Cooper's has crafted it's a very the show is 343 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 3: very different than the podcast. But yeah, I mean nobody's 344 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 3: really done the murder mystery at Christmas time, the like 345 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 3: Christmas noir, cozy Christmas mystery. 346 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: Ooh yeah, I think it's going to do really well people. 347 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: I mean, who doesn't love a themed holiday movie or show. 348 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 1: Everybody wants more of that. And like you said, I 349 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 1: think mystery too. It's just so fun. And you're an 350 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: EP on this. So going back to our earlier kind 351 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 1: of conversation where you are in your life in this 352 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: new chapter and being able to kind of dictate and 353 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: have a say in the things that you're doing in 354 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: a bigger way, has that just been a total pinch 355 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 1: me moment in your career in terms of like, WHOA, 356 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: I got here on my own? 357 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 3: Yes, I mean every time I'm and I'm working on 358 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 3: multiple things. So I also wrote a new spicy, sexy 359 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 3: Christmas movie that's going to be on Lifetime called a 360 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 3: Carpenter Christmas Romance. So I was actually writing that while 361 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 3: I was shooting the show on my drives. I had 362 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 3: to buy myself a lap desk, and I was literally 363 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 3: doing rewrites just on my way to work every day 364 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 3: on my forty five minute drive, and then on the weekends. 365 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 3: This it's the only time I could write. So that 366 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 3: was crazy. And then it was greenlit off of my 367 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 3: second draft, and then it was We started shooting that 368 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 3: ten days after I got home from Mistletoe Murders Bananas. 369 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 3: Multiple pinch me moments sometimes, and I'm developing something else 370 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 3: right now as well. So many moments where I go people, 371 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 3: they keep saying yes, they keep saying yes, go for it, Yes, Sarah, 372 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 3: we want you to do this. Pinch me is the 373 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 3: best way I guess to put it. Just like, really, 374 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 3: I get to do this, I get to make my 375 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 3: own stuff and then people say yes and then make it. 376 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 2: Yes. 377 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 3: It's wild. But I love it so much because not 378 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 3: only the creative process of the storytelling. I love being 379 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 3: in all of the creative decisions. I love helping pick 380 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 3: out music. I love I love giving notes on the 381 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 3: cuts as they come in and kind of getting in 382 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 3: there and figuring out ways to tell a story in 383 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 3: a way that feels, oh, you know whatever, whatever my 384 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 3: input is. But what I really, really really love is 385 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 3: being a leader on set. That is my favorite part 386 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 3: of all of it because you really get to set 387 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 3: the tone and if you show up with your whole self, 388 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 3: all your lines memorize with encouragement and enthusiasm. It is contagious. 389 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 3: It goes everywhere, it spreads everywhere, and that is the 390 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 3: greatest joy for me is to just walk on a 391 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 3: set with my whole heart wide open and be like, 392 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 3: let's play. This is awesome. You all are so good 393 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 3: at your jobs and look what we get to do 394 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 3: for a living. How insane is this? That is my 395 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 3: favorite part of getting to be in this position. 396 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: Well, what a mindset you have, and to go through 397 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 1: life like that, I feel like makes it so rewarding 398 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 1: because you truly can stop and be grateful for what 399 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 1: you're achieving in real time, which is something that's so 400 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 1: hard for so many of us. Right It's getting out 401 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: of the present, it's looking forward to what's next. It's 402 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: not appreciating the now but worrying about what's coming down 403 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: the line, and it seems like you've cultivated this really 404 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: important mindset to. 405 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 2: Enjoy the journey you're on now. 406 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: Have you always been like that or did it take 407 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: you a minute to get there? 408 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 3: It took me a minute to get there. It's funny 409 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 3: I've had I've had people ask me a lot what 410 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 3: would you tell your younger self? And I have the 411 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 3: great gift of a full journal of my experience playing 412 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 3: juliet at the Macarter Theater, which was my first professional show. 413 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 3: I was still in college at the time, but my 414 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 3: professors let me do it as an independent study. I 415 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 3: came to school five weeks late for my fourth year 416 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 3: of college to play Juliette. And I have meticulous journal 417 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 3: entries for every single day and the whole process. So 418 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 3: I recently, actually in twenty twenty, went back and read 419 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 3: the whole journal all the way through, and I was 420 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 3: weeping because this twenty year old Sarah was so in 421 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 3: love with the artistry. She was so in love with 422 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 3: just being in the presence of professional actors, getting to 423 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 3: learn how to use shakespace, beer's language, and how to 424 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 3: take the sort of ebbs and flows and the waves 425 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 3: that he takes you on in the dialogue and experiencing 426 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 3: being in this beautiful theater with these incredible people. My 427 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 3: journal entries were all about I can't believe I get 428 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 3: to do this. And the thing that was happening while 429 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 3: I was feeling all these things is that my whole 430 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 3: career was starting. The reviews were coming in and they 431 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 3: were exemplary, to the point of like there was a 432 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 3: producer ready to bring us to Broadway based on the 433 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 3: reviews that we'd been getting. And then nine to eleven 434 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 3: happened and all the theaters went dark, so we didn't 435 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 3: But I didn't read any reviews until the end of 436 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 3: the show. I read them all after we wrapped, But 437 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 3: I wasn't thinking about what is this doing for me? 438 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 3: How is this launching me somewhere? I was just inside 439 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 3: of that moment in the most beautiful way. And I 440 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 3: think that when you grow older and when you're in 441 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 3: this industry for longer, some of that stuff can fade 442 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 3: if you are not actively grounding yourself in the present 443 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 3: moment and going I said yes to this project, which 444 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 3: means I'm going to be fully present and fully joyous 445 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 3: and fully prepared with my heart wide open, right now, 446 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 3: right here, not for what it might get me, not 447 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 3: for how strategic it is. But if I want to 448 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 3: tell this story, I say yes to telling this story, 449 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 3: and then I'm going to give it my whole heart. 450 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 3: I think that I lost a little bit of that 451 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 3: in my twenties. I was like, I'm like, Oh, what's this? 452 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 3: How's this going to do? I kind of felt like 453 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 3: once I was on Gray's Anatomy, I thought that I 454 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 3: was going to become a movie star. And I remember 455 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 3: the summer after my first season on the show, nobody 456 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 3: was asking me to be in their movie. I didn't 457 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 3: get those phone calls, and I remember getting so full 458 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 3: of rage. I'm on a hit show. I am a 459 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 3: series regular on a hit show, and I'm angry. I 460 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 3: was angry. I was furious. I was like, why wan, 461 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 3: why can't I have R And I got to a 462 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 3: place where I was like, I don't want to live 463 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 3: like this. This is gross, this is this is I 464 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 3: will never ever be happy or satisfied or fulfilled if 465 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 3: I'm always looking toward what is this going to do 466 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 3: for me next? So that was actually a really big 467 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 3: turning point for me in my life and the way 468 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 3: that I look at my career and the way that 469 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 3: I show up was that moment, because I saw a 470 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,880 Speaker 3: version of myself that was ugly and I didn't want 471 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 3: to be that. 472 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's I got chills hearing that story, 473 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 1: because hey, that's really cool that you're vulnerable enough to 474 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 1: admit that and feeling that right, because so many of 475 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 1: us would think, oh my god, I don't want to 476 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: be judged for that. But we all have had those 477 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: moments where we're like, what the mm like this should 478 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 1: be happening for me and why is it not? And 479 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: no matter what career you're in, we all felt that way, 480 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: and you're right, like, holding on to that anger is 481 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: so not worth it. 482 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 3: It's so ugly. It's so ugly, and it also like 483 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 3: it does serve me in any way. You know, I 484 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 3: have so much to be grateful for, And that really 485 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 3: did shift my perspective. Just kind of going to the 486 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,719 Speaker 3: ugly parts of myself made me go, I don't want 487 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 3: to live there. Why would I do that? Why would 488 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 3: I just live a career where I'm constantly disappointed and 489 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 3: mad that it's not more Because it's never gonna be enough. Never, 490 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 3: there is not a ceiling that you get to and 491 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 3: then you're like, oh, now I'm here. It doesn't happen. 492 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 3: There's always a higher rung that you can get to. 493 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 3: And if you live your life just desperately trying to 494 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 3: get to the next thing, you will never notice the 495 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 3: joy and the beauty of what's happening right now in 496 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 3: this moment. 497 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: What a good reminder for all of us. Yes, yes, 498 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: yes to all of this, Sarah. I didn't know you 499 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: were taking me to church today. 500 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 3: Hallelujah. 501 00:26:52,280 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: I am here for all of it. And look where 502 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: you are now again. It's like doing such an amazing thing. 503 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 1: The things the series is going to be huge. 504 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 2: I know it is. 505 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 1: People are going to eat it up and devour it. 506 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 3: Is. 507 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: Being in a Christmas themed project as fun as it looks, 508 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: because now it's you got you have a few under 509 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 1: your belt. 510 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 3: It is so much fun. Can I tell you what 511 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 3: I do? Since that says my first one, which was 512 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 3: in twenty eighteen, I do a viewing party. Whenever I 513 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 3: have a Christmas project come out where I have everybody 514 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,199 Speaker 3: show up. It's usually just my girlfriends. They have to 515 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 3: come in Christmas pajamas or Christmas onesies and we have 516 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 3: a big breakfast potluck. We eat breakfast for dinner, so 517 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 3: it's like, what is your Christmas breakfast meal? And then 518 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 3: bring your favorite delicious breakfast thing. And I make a 519 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 3: special like Christmas cocktail, and we watch the movie in 520 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 3: our cozy jammies eating breakfast for dinner. And it's my favorite. 521 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 3: And I feel like every year, if I don't have 522 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,919 Speaker 3: a Christmas movie, I'm like, I feel bereft. I'm just like, 523 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 3: but I have to have my party. I have to 524 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 3: have my pajama Christmas party. I love. It is so 525 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 3: much fun. It's I mean, minus the like we're usually 526 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 3: shooting Christmas in summer, right, oh, you know, minus the 527 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 3: needing to pass out in a winter coat when it's 528 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 3: two hundred degrees out. Outside of that, it's so much fun. 529 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 3: It's so festive. I love it. 530 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 1: I secretly have always dreamed of being in one scene 531 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: of a holiday movie. 532 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 3: It's like, got me put it out there, and we 533 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 3: got to make this happen. It has to happen. 534 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: I could be a shirtlest sexy olf, I could be whatever. 535 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 3: You have to be shirtless. 536 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like it's listening back in the day. 537 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: I don't like to admit it, but I got my 538 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: start in this career by being a Harlequin romance cover boy. 539 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 3: No you did not, I did? 540 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 2: I did. I did. 541 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: And ever since then I'm like, and I did some 542 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: Christmas scenes, But ever since then, I was like, you 543 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: know what, I got to be in a holiday movie, 544 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: in a scene. 545 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 2: I just have to make it happen, have to. 546 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 3: It has to happen. We're manifesting it. It's going to happen. 547 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: We are manifest Yes, what we are? Okay, real quick 548 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: holiday rapid fire questions. Let me get a sense of 549 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: where you stand on some of these things. Number one, 550 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like I don't even need to 551 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: ask this, but just in case, are you a fan 552 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: of the Queen of Christmas, Mariah Carey? 553 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 3: Yeous sleep come on? 554 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 2: Like you have that album playing? 555 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 3: I love that song, But most of my Christmas music 556 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 3: that plays is like Christmas Carols. I like this because 557 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 3: that's what I grew up with, just like the sacred 558 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 3: Christmas Carols and all people's different spins on those. So yeah, 559 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 3: but I do love I do love Miss Carrie. 560 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: Number two very controversial. Do you use white lights on 561 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: your tree or do you like the old school vintage 562 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: Christmas colored lights on your. 563 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 3: Tree, right, white, white, white, always white, always white. 564 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: Favorite Christmas song I'm gonna. 565 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 3: Say Silent Night. I just it always. It's nostalgic for 566 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 3: me because growing up, we would have a Christmas Eve 567 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 3: service in our church and the last song we would sing, 568 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 3: all the lights would go out and we'd light candles 569 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 3: and everybody'd be holding a candle and we all sing 570 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 3: Silent Night acappella, and that was that's the end of 571 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 3: the Christmas Eve service. Right before then you go home 572 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 3: and you have your time with your family or whatever. 573 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 3: It's a very like special I love I love that song. 574 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: That feels like a Hallmark Christmas scene in a movie. 575 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 3: Oh just wait till a Carpenter Christmas romance. There's some 576 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 3: there's some candle light things. All right, all right. 577 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: We're ready for it. We're ready for it. Yes, give 578 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: me those bread crumbs. Favorite city to spend Christmas in 579 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: if you had a choice, most mad city, Vienna. 580 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 3: I got to do Christmas in Vienna for it was 581 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 3: my first Christmas project with Hallmark and I got to 582 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 3: be in Vienna at Christmas time, like we were shooting 583 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 3: two weeks before Christmas. So all of the Christmas markets 584 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 3: were set up, and we went to the most incredible 585 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 3: concerts at the music That city is the most magical 586 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 3: place to go anytime, but especially at Christmas. 587 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 2: Okay, it's on my list. 588 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: And lastly, what is the appropriate time to put up 589 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: the tree? 590 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 3: We do it. So this is our new tradition we 591 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 3: do because we in La the tree dies within twenty 592 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 3: seven seconds, so we don't do real trees anymore. We 593 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 3: have a fake tree. We put it up on Thanksgiving weekend, 594 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 3: so either that Saturday or that Sunday after Thanksgiving. And 595 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 3: now last year was the first year we did this. 596 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 3: We put on the movie Spirited, and my husband and 597 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 3: I had Manhattan's and we decorated the tree with Spirited playing. 598 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 3: It is now I will never not do it that 599 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 3: way from here on out. 600 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 2: Well, I like that. Good for you. 601 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 1: You might be appalled mine goes up like the first 602 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: weekend of November. 603 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I'm not appalled. Look, it's a beautiful 604 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 3: time of year. Why not have I get up early 605 00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 3: in the morning and make my coffee and like journal 606 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 3: and do my little stuff before the kids get up. 607 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,479 Speaker 3: When it's Christmas time and that tree is lit up 608 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 3: and that's the only light in the room, and the 609 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 3: and the sun hasn't risen yet. Love it so much, 610 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,239 Speaker 3: I would want it all year. I mean, I get it. 611 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 3: I get a November first, I get it. 612 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a magical time. We want we want to 613 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: celebrate it as long as we can. And you are 614 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: magical because you've been so open and real during this interview, 615 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: which I always so appreciate. I love bringing on fan 616 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: favorite artists who get to show people who they are 617 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: and not the characters. Right, It's it's all about who 618 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: you are as a human. And Sarah the name of 619 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: the show, as I've never said this before, and I 620 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: wrap every interview with the question based off the title 621 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: of my show. So I'm wondering, is there anything today 622 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: that you can think of that you've never said before 623 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: that you want to share whatever it means to you. 624 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 3: Yes, I've been thinking about this question, Tommy. I watched 625 00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 3: Inside Out Too several weeks ago. My son and bought 626 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 3: it for us on Amazon as a birthday gift. He 627 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 3: used his money to buy it so that we could 628 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 3: all watch it together because I'm dying to see it 629 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 3: and we hadn't been together, and I wanted to watch 630 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 3: it together. I wept my way through that whole movie, 631 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 3: like died. It was so intense and so beautiful. So 632 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 3: here's the thing I've never said before is that since 633 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 3: that movie, which I think was so illuminating and so brilliant, 634 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 3: I now talk to my emotions in my head as 635 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 3: if they're the little characters. I go, anxiety, honey, you 636 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 3: can go sit down. You don't need to be here 637 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 3: at the steering wheel. I'm okay, and I can let 638 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 3: Joy take the wheel again. You can go sit in 639 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,479 Speaker 3: your chair and you can have a little massage and 640 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 3: you can relax. I know you're being vigilant and you're 641 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 3: trying to keep me safe. I have a lot of anxiety. 642 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 3: That is that's my I've talked a little bit about this, 643 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 3: but not like it's it's I have a lot of anxiety, 644 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 3: and it'll wake me up in the middle of the night. 645 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 3: It'll wake me up. And the spin, spin, spin, spin, spin, 646 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 3: and having a visual of there are all these emotions 647 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 3: that exist inside of me that aren't the totality of me, 648 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 3: and they're there to in some way care for me 649 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 3: and keep me safe. Having the language and the visual 650 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 3: of this sweet movie that was so genius to kind 651 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 3: of look and speak to the emotion directly and say 652 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,280 Speaker 3: it's okay, you can sit down. Joy, can you come please? Joy, 653 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:36,399 Speaker 3: please come, please come take the wheel again. It's such 654 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 3: a gift to me. I'm watching it's language that my 655 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 3: daughter has now too. My anxiety is at the wheel again. Mom. Okay, 656 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,919 Speaker 3: you can tell her to sit down. So yeah, that's 657 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 3: my I know, talk to voices in my head. 658 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 1: You know what, though, good for you because it's such 659 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,320 Speaker 1: a good way to check yourself right and and really 660 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 1: honor what you're feeling. And I think that's something that's 661 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 1: a really important message to put out there. It's not 662 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,800 Speaker 1: just the brushings aside or act like it doesn't exist, 663 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,399 Speaker 1: or you're you know, oh, I'm just being silly. I'm 664 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: not anxious, or I'm not sad, or I'm not angry. No, like, 665 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: honor it, acknowledge it. 666 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 3: There she is. Yeah, yeah, And I think that often also, 667 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 3: anxiety is with me so much that I forget that 668 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 3: what I'm feeling is anxiety, you know, but actually being 669 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:31,359 Speaker 3: able to stop and go, ah, you're doing that thing 670 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 3: again where you're imagining all the worst case scenarios and 671 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 3: playing them all out and trying to figure out if 672 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 3: you'll be prepared for all of them. Like, that's anxiety, 673 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 3: and anxiety is right now stealing my joy. So I'm 674 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 3: such a visual person and have always been a visual person. 675 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 3: So having the image of that sweet little character, like, 676 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 3: I'm trying really hard to keep you safe, to. 677 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 1: Be like you're okay. 678 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,320 Speaker 3: I know you are, and I love you, but you 679 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,839 Speaker 3: can go over here. I don't need you. I just 680 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 3: think that it clicks me into health faster. It gets 681 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 3: me back into the driver's seat faster, And I applaud 682 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 3: the creators and the writers and Pixar for making something 683 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 3: that's so beautiful and helpful. 684 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:24,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, it allows people, especially younger kids, to feel okay 685 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 1: talking about emotions, which you know, we all grew up differently. 686 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: I come from a very old school Italian family. It 687 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 1: wasn't something I grew up really doing. So it's nice 688 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,839 Speaker 1: to be able to have that space and see through 689 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: Disney that like, oh my god, it's okay to do that. 690 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 1: So I'm totally with you, Sarah. What a treat to 691 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 1: hang out and to talk with you every time. I 692 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: know it's been a few years since we last saw 693 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: each other, but I feel like we jump right back 694 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,280 Speaker 1: in and I always always love our conversations. 695 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 3: Me too. It is so sweet. 696 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on your new show. Mistletoe Murders 697 00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: is out and every week and new episode drops, so 698 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,840 Speaker 1: everybody go watch it, watch it again, have those pajama 699 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: parties with cocktails and breakfast for dinner, foods and all. 700 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,280 Speaker 3: The things right, yes, all the things. 701 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:11,439 Speaker 2: Thank you, my friend. 702 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 1: I'm wishing you a great holiday season and congratulations on 703 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 1: all your success. 704 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Tommy. 705 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: I've Never Said This Before is hosted by me, Tommy Dedario. 706 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,880 Speaker 1: This podcast is executive produced by Andrew Piglisi at iHeartRadio 707 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 1: and by me Tommy, with editing by Joshua Colaudney. I've 708 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 1: Never Said This Before is part of the Elvis Duran 709 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,959 Speaker 1: podcast Network on iHeart Podcasts. 710 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 2: For more rate review. 711 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: And subscribe to our show and if you liked this episode, 712 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: tell your friends. Until next time, I'm Tommy Dedario