WEBVTT - This Week in Music History 7-7 0:00:06.280 --> 0:00:09.760 Wow, this is incredible. This is the Taking a Walk podcast. 0:00:10.000 --> 0:00:15.320 We're actually in person to Harry Jacobs, the King of 0:00:15.360 --> 0:00:18.759 the Music History Desk, playing us on. We're in the 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:22.600 hills of Connecticut in person, which is even more special. 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:26.880 And my god, I feel like I'm in a coffee house. 0:00:27.160 --> 0:00:30.400 This is this song that I wrote. I don't write 0:00:30.440 --> 0:00:33.960 any music at all, but I wrote a song twenty 0:00:33.960 --> 0:00:36.000 five years ago and was noodling around with it and 0:00:36.080 --> 0:00:37.400 never knew what to do with it. 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:37.960 Is that right? 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:40.720 Because I don't sing. And when you were looking to 0:00:41.240 --> 0:00:43.280 put some music at the beginning of Taking a Walk, 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:44.760 I said, I got something. 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:45.760 I think I got something. 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:47.040 I got something for you. 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:50.879 I think you got something. What was it? 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:54.800 Inspired by it? It was supposed to have some it 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:56.360 was supposed to promote some emotion. 0:00:56.960 --> 0:00:57.480 It's got that. 0:00:57.800 --> 0:01:00.000 Yeah, So that's that's what it was. And I couldn't 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:01.440 really ever do anything with it. 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:06.240 So and I picture as we're looking at Taking a Walk, 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:13.399 music History on foot photo logo and the birds flying 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:18.920 sign and the birds are flying. One day we'll ask 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:20.800 everybody do you know where that is? But I'm not 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:23.360 going to tell anybody right now. I'm gonna just have 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:27.800 you ask me, ask me what that taking a walk 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:30.040 picture is from that day? You were to be happy 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:33.560 to tell you privately if you reach out to me, 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:35.040 so I can't. 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:37.200 Ask you here who were you taking a walk with? 0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:40.440 I'm how to have you guests, but not right now. 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:44.160 But take one guess. I think that's our friend Willy B. 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:46.760 I think that's somewhere in parts unknown in Connecticut, n 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:47.920 That's a good guess. 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:55.120 That's incorrect, incorrect, but anyway, thank you for this opportunity 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:58.280 to be with you in person, and thanks our friends 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:03.040 Willie and Lynn Hoffmann as well for allowing us to 0:02:03.080 --> 0:02:07.360 be in the wonderful hills of Connecticut. A beautiful day. 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:12.239 And it's a version of this Week in Music History 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:15.560 for the week of July the seventh. So what do 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:18.519 he have got Harry over at the music history desks. 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:21.240 It's not the typical week that with a lot of 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:24.600 content that we normally have, you know, with led Zeppelin 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:26.639 and a lot of classic rock. It's an interesting week, 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:30.960 almost leaning pop Elvis in nineteen fifty four, on July seventh, 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:35.120 they released Teddy Bear, one of my favorites, hoky kind 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:35.880 of the hokey. 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:40.960 Elvis not my favorite, but not as hokey as Elvis 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:44.280 would become later on in the bloated years. 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:49.040 Pork Chops. What is now the Western Hotel, the Las 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:52.480 Vegas Hilton, the Westgate Yeah, now the Westgate, Yeah, but 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:54.920 which I love staying at the Westgate. 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:59.040 A cool place, nice people there, very close to the 0:02:59.120 --> 0:03:02.960 Convention Center, which is why I really like it. But 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:08.720 Elvis in the Teddy Bear era, Okay, Elvis in terms 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:13.720 of the meaning of music history and all of that, 0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:15.280 Oh my god, are you kidding? 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:19.000 The sixty eight comeback was so amazing. I just watched 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:20.040 the documentary on that. 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:23.400 Mister Spencer Prawford behind that absolutely incredible. 0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:26.200 Teddy Bear was played for the first time on July seventh, 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:31.040 nineteen fifty four, on a radio station called w HBQ 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:35.839 ware for all the cash and prizes on today's episode Buzz. 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:37.760 Memphis, Tennessee. 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:42.520 Get that man his doctor, shoul shoes and suave the 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:46.240 ourn Thank you nineteen sixty five Sonny and Share It 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:51.400 performed I Got You Babe on Shindig and this was 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:54.440 the beginning of that chart topper. That's a song that's 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:57.360 one of those that stands. It's like these boots by 0:03:57.400 --> 0:04:00.680 Nancy Sinatra older song, but it stands the test. 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:02.240 Of time, stands the test of time. 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:06.680 Yes, for me, A great thrill going to the Rock 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:11.840 and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony in Cleveburg, Ohio, 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:18.000 and I had never done that before. I was in 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:25.240 the press room watching as you would have inductees or 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:30.520 people who were presenters walked in there, and I remember 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:33.919 the first one publicist comes out, or the Rock and 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:35.920 Roll Hall of Fame person comes out. 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:41.200 And they went in a moment, Share is coming in 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:46.320 and I was like, what so Share comes in? 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:50.200 I remember thinking does she really want to be in 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:56.880 this room? And she comes to the mic and balls to. 0:04:56.880 --> 0:05:00.520 The wall, Share let it all go. She looked beautiful. 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:02.600 Oh she you know who came out there with her 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:05.240 look pretty beautiful as well. 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:09.080 Do a loope? Who's doing? I don't, I don't know, 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:11.800 do a loope? My god? 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:18.080 But but Share unapologetic about anything. 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:20.440 You gotta you gotta think she's out of her element 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:23.800 in that room. This is a room with Peter Frampton, 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:28.640 with Roger Daltrey, with Rock Royalty. You know, it's a 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:31.599 it's a you know, it's it's one thing to to 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:34.960 really think about including other genres. Share is a whole 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:37.920 other world. It's apples and cinder blocks in a way. 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:42.280 Look, that's a whole criticism people make of the Rock 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:46.839 and Roll Hall of Fame. Still they always will. But 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:52.520 I thought when Cher kind of said you have had 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:56.960 number one songs for I think she said for six decades. 0:05:57.880 --> 0:06:00.000 That's a pretty remarkable thing to be able to say, 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:03.240 even if you kind of go, all right, do. 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:04.799 You believe that song? 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:08.320 That's not really like what you think of for the 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:09.640 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:15.599 But she revealed she said they were for so long. 0:06:15.720 --> 0:06:20.600 I was like, I don't give a blaye about this 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:25.039 at all, and I guess her dear friend David Geffen 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:28.640 said you need to do this, and I pulled the 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:32.120 strings because Scher's whole point was you should have done 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:36.680 this years ago, and Geffen said, just do this and 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:37.480 there you go. 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:39.279 So that's our share. 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:42.760 This program has a connection to the Rock and Roll 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:46.640 Hall of Fame taking a Walk. Certain episodes are curated, 0:06:47.080 --> 0:06:51.560 Yes huge, Yes. July seventh, nineteen sixty seven. The anthemic 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:55.000 all you Need Is Love was recorded by the Beatles. 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:57.280 That's a song I would defy you to walk into 0:06:57.320 --> 0:07:00.800 a room and hit play on your phone and see 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:03.080 if there's anyone that doesn't tap their toes or nod 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:03.960 their head a little bit. 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:04.760 Or make you smile. 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:08.200 Sure, exactly, Sure, just one of those feel good songs. Yeah. 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:12.800 In sixty eight, the Yardbirds played their final gig and 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:18.720 then everything would change. Jeff Beck splits, Eric Clapton splits 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:21.400 everyone else. Who's what's the other name, what's the guy's name, 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:23.720 Keith Relph, Keith Ralph, and they I don't know, and 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:27.280 I'm a music nut splits out of that band. The 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:30.400 band lays, you know, basically is dormant, and Jimmy Page says, 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:33.160 I'm gonna hang on to the I'm going to hang 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:35.280 on to the storefront, so to speak. It's like a 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:38.360 restaurant closing and the dishwasher or a cook saying, you 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:41.120 know what, don't take anything out of here. I'm gonna 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:43.800 keep it. And that's what Jimmy Page did with the Yardbirds. 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:46.400 And then he called his friend John Paul Jones. Those 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:49.240 two guys had been working in music and they were 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:52.080 session players. They were the wrecking crew of Great Britain, 0:07:52.560 --> 0:07:55.760 right and and John Bonham comes into play and they 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:59.080 get Robert Plant. For a minute they were the new 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:01.280 Yardbirds and then they became led Zeppelin. 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:06.840 Yeah, the documentary Becoming led Zeppelin is sensational and it 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:10.840 tells the you know, the beginnings and certainly traces the 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:12.320 Yardbirds story. 0:08:12.880 --> 0:08:13.680 So brilliantly. 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:17.120 Got this episode with the Professor of Rock where we 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:21.800 talk about the becoming led Zeppelin. That is a nice 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:26.840 discussion and with him. Loved talking to him about it. 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:33.400 What impressed me so much about the documentary was the 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:39.840 aging graceful nature of all the members of led Zeppelin. 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:41.400 Of course that are still alive. 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:48.160 Jimmy Page agent gracefully. He's got a real look about him. 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:49.719 He listened, he went through a tough time. There was 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:52.080 a time it was anything but regal. 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:57.440 That's right, right, looks great smile on his face, dignified, 0:08:57.559 --> 0:08:58.520 agent gracefully. 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:04.360 Same with Robert Plant, same with John Paul Jones. They've 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:09.280 aged gracefully. You made an observation when we talked about 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:11.280 it after you saw the movie, you said, would have 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:13.200 been great if they were all in the same room 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:14.040 at the same time. 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:18.360 Yeah, even in some reveal that could have happened. Maybe, 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:20.880 I don't know. It sounds kitchy, but maybe at the 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:28.640 end or something. But I'm sure the artists themselves or 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:31.000 current managers. 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:33.160 Went, we're going to do this, but this is how 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:33.920 we're going to do it. 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:37.559 And I respect that because they yielded a great product 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:40.400 in the documentary, and if that's the way it's going 0:09:40.480 --> 0:09:42.679 to come out, then make it happen that way. 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:47.160 But excuse me, you guys spent nineteen sixty eight to 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:51.280 nineteen eighty together making some of the most legendary music 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:56.760 of all time, with all due respect getting them together. 0:09:57.360 --> 0:10:00.520 You know the story of the two right. Our friend 0:10:00.600 --> 0:10:05.480 Rich Kreswick, who ran arenas all over the world, was 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:09.240 with a handful of people around that two show in 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:14.000 twenty twelve. I believe led Zeppelin was offered essentially everything 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:18.600 that they wanted, anything they could possibly want monetarily to 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:21.160 do a handful of shows around the world. Can you 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:23.000 imagine what that would have been like? Think about how 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:28.080 great that two show was with Jason Bonham, incredible ten shows, 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:31.240 twelve shows around the world. They would have paid him 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:32.880 a half a billion dollars. They would have paid him 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:36.600 whatever they wanted. They weren't feeling the magic, which is 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:41.800 listen the thought of Jimmy Page grabbing his guitar. Legal alert, 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:44.520 you know, legal alert. 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:48.120 This is the equivalent of a watermak mark that I'm 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:52.440 putting over this episode for you playing that. Okay, See 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:57.440 one thing to close on about the documentary that I 0:10:57.520 --> 0:11:00.680 loved in particular about it. You know what they did 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:06.400 that is the key to everything, including this podcast. The 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:08.920 documentary left us wanting more. 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:11.600 It sure did. And speaking of more, let's go to 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:15.200 nineteen seventy six for the Jefferson Starship. They played in 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:18.600 Central Park, fifty thousand people. You spent a lot of time. 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:23.320 Your brother would take you from Stanford, Connecticut. We're not 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:25.800 far from there. We're in parts unknown Connecticut right now, 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:29.000 but from Stanford to the city, and you saw some 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:30.200 concerts in Central Park. 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:35.320 One of particular was Jefferson Airplane Free Show Mini Woodstock 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:36.920 one hundred thousand people. 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:40.040 That would have been around sixty seven sixty eight before 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:40.440 we'd leave. 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:44.800 It was sixty seven and so big airplane fan had 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:48.880 seen the airplane at the Fillmore East and disappointed when 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:54.600 the airplane ceased at that point. But when the Starship, 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:59.280 early on for me, came on, it was still viable 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:04.840 and really liked it because it had Grace Paul Cantner, 0:12:06.240 --> 0:12:07.320 it had the backbone. 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:10.559 At that point, I'm pretty sure our dear friend you 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:11.440 are mcalcin and. 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:14.600 Had he had gone on all the other stuff hot Tuna. 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:21.120 But that version of the Starship I liked that, you know, 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:27.160 first version Papa John Creech, and I didn't like as 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:28.839 much the pop that was. 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:32.800 Miracles and Ride the Tiger. How about Rye the Tiger? Right, 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:35.000 we played that on rock radio. Oh yeah, and then 0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:37.400 the Starship. You know, this is a band, you know, 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:39.640 like Aerosmith and like a handful of others that have 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:43.840 had multiple lives right over their period of time. But 0:12:43.880 --> 0:12:48.959 they went from that to we Built this City, right, 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:53.800 think about that in nineteen eighty six ish, not their 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:57.760 great pop song, but not their finest moment as a band. 0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:01.200 And Mickey Thomas I believe may have been around there 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:05.040 Jane nineteen eighty eighty one. That's when Mickey steps in. 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:08.960 But it really becomes very poppy at that time. Yeah, 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:13.280 even though in that early period they still rocked. Yeah 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:14.480 it was it was pop. 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:17.200 But if you think about that and you go, okay, 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:21.080 what does a band do to find new audiences? They 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:27.079 have to find greater audiences via becoming pop slash popular. 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:29.960 So I kind of get that. I don't take that 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:33.520 completely away. It just wasn't my favorite period of that 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:38.880 music because I was based on the more psychedelic side 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:40.160 with the Jefferson. 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:42.640 Airplane White Rabbit. You know, think about how powerful that 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:45.280 opening lick is a lease in that song. I mean, 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:48.160 it's just great. Another hallucinating as we speak. There you go. 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:52.440 One quick note history note, Joan of Arc on this 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:56.400 day in fourteen fifty six burned at the stake. How'd 0:13:56.400 --> 0:13:58.000 you know? I was going to even ask I was 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:00.240 going to say this anyone in the room, and I 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:02.320 was going to include Willy Beat. Does anyone in the room, 0:14:02.320 --> 0:14:04.840 including Willy b know how Joan of Arc was put 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:05.200 to death? 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:08.320 You would think by me saying that so quickly that 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:11.840 we actually recorded this episode twice. We're three or four 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:15.240 episodes versions of it two or three times before. 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:20.120 Anyway, Joan of Arc was given a retrial on this date, 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:24.960 twenty five years after her execution. This is forward thinking 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:27.320 that in those days to give someone a retril. This 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:29.920 is not Karen Reid, this is you know, and my 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:38.160 understanding is Johnny Cochran represented her anyway, they burn her 0:14:38.160 --> 0:14:41.000 at the stake, and then like three hundred years and 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:42.760 some change later, a whole bunch of us were in 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:45.520 England and we decided to split. We'd come over to Boston. 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:47.760 We got a tea party and the shit hits the fan. 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:49.360 The next thing you know, here we. 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:50.640 Are and the rest is history. 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:53.440 Thank you very much. This is I'm embarrassed about this, 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:56.640 but on this date in nineteen ninety six, the Spice 0:14:56.640 --> 0:14:59.480 Girls released want to Be. That was that whole if 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:03.280 you want to Be? I love her song. I loved 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:04.720 that song. I don't know what it was. 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:08.640 Well, and I'm gonna tell a little inside story. The 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:13.800 reason Harry has that deep, husky voice just like the 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:18.200 late Brenda v Carro is because last night, well we 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:23.240 were all together in the hills of Connecticut. Unfortunately, that 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:27.320 Spice Girls song got blasted here on the speakers, and 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:30.720 I think Harry was swaying along to it, so that's 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:32.600 why he sounds like Brenda Vicarrol. 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:35.720 It was an experience that those around me will not 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:39.240 soon forget. A fat mob scarred, a fat, middle age, 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:42.720 squishy in the middle, balding guy singing wanna be By 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:46.840 the Spice Girls Offbeat. July ninth, nineteen sixty two, Dylan 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:51.280 recorded Blown in the Wind at what was Columbia Studios 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:54.960 in New York. You're a New York guy, where's Columbia Studios? Look, 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:56.760 I'm gonna have to look at that seriously. 0:15:56.840 --> 0:15:59.360 And one time when I'm in New York in the future, 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:02.440 when i have an idol walk somewhere, which I love 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:04.840 doing in New York, I'm going to find where it is. 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:09.880 It's going to be probably, you know, a Cumby's or 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:13.760 something Comby. When you say combies, you're saying Cumberland Farm, 0:16:13.800 --> 0:16:16.760 Cumberland Farms. It'll be a Comby's and that'll be like, 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:20.800 that's where Dylan recorded that. So I'm gonna report back 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:22.760 on this. I let you know what's on that land 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:24.760 right now. I know me too, be nice to know. 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:27.240 And this was a great period for Dylan. This was 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:30.240 at his height of the being a folk master. 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:35.120 He's still my man. Nineteen seventy seven, Donna Summer released 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:38.720 I Feel Love, lots of synthesizer, lots of cool like 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:42.680 cool rhythm. That's one of those songs. If you and 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:45.560 you know me, I'm a I'm a little soft spot 0:16:45.600 --> 0:16:48.520 in my heart for pop and for Donna Summer. That's 0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:50.760 a very rhythmic, very cool song. 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:52.240 Are You Okay? 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:57.120 Which I can't? Sorry, which I can't. It may be 0:16:57.320 --> 0:17:03.360 a bacid reflux, but that may that. That's an incredibly 0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:05.040 rhythmic kind of song. 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:09.080 I believe we've discussed this previously, a great respect for 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:13.280 the Donna Summer legacy. I believe, if I'm not mistaken, 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:19.040 Giorgio Murraudo was involved with that production somehow. 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:20.280 That name. 0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:24.000 We could look that up at a later date. And 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:28.320 you had her daughter on taking a Walk Brooklyn Sedano. Yeah, 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:30.520 interesting because she was talking about her mom and the 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:35.560 documentary Delightful, the Delightful Young Lady. 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:39.120 So many songs, so many songs from Donna Sumer on 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:44.200 Cassiblanca Records. Yeah, on July eleventh. This is an interesting one. 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:50.879 Nineteen fourteen, Babe Ruth becomes a Boston Red Sox pitcher, 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:55.160 and six years later the Red Sox for a thousand 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:58.879 dollars sold them to the Yankees thousand dollars and a 0:17:58.880 --> 0:18:01.720 three hundred thousand dollars loan that was connected to real estate, 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:05.639 some hidden weird deal, but for four hundred Grand the 0:18:05.680 --> 0:18:10.200 Red Sox trade away maybe the greatest pitcher and a hitter. 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:15.600 Of all time, and fast forward to now, Yeah, they're 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:20.040 still doing dopey shit. This Rafael Devers thing has people 0:18:20.520 --> 0:18:26.760 upside down. They moved them to San Francisco and basically 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:28.360 they didn't get enough in return. 0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:30.280 So I think it's kind of ironic. 0:18:30.440 --> 0:18:31.480 He was their best player. 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:34.840 I think Rafael, if I'm not mistaken, started with the 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:38.560 Red Sox at like seventeen years old or something like that, 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:42.680 So I think it's kind of ironic to this day. 0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:46.320 They're still flubbing it when you say they're doing goofy 0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:47.879 shit or they're flubbing it as. 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:51.040 You just did. Is this because you're a Cardinals fan? 0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:52.439 Because you're not a Red. 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:52.840 Sox fan of. 0:18:54.440 --> 0:18:59.119 Fairly interested resident of the Boston area who is a 0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:03.040 Cardinal fan but kind of has no vested interest. 0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:06.280 Right, How did you feel after the Red Sox handed 0:19:06.280 --> 0:19:10.800 the Yankees the largest defeat and playoff baseball history and 0:19:10.880 --> 0:19:14.760 then they went on to play the Cardinals and humiliate 0:19:15.640 --> 0:19:16.320 the Cardinals? 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:18.359 Kind of depressed at that moment? Yeah, I would imagine 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:19.439 it wouldn't matter now to me. 0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:23.920 So anyway, the Red Sox sell Babe for what amounts 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:27.120 to four hundred grand four boxes a ZD, as Tony 0:19:27.200 --> 0:19:32.880 Soprano would say. And then it took us eighty six years. 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:36.360 People not far from where we're sitting right now. When 0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:38.560 the Red Sox were in the World Series, especially that 0:19:38.680 --> 0:19:42.480 last game, when they wrapped it up, grown men were 0:19:42.520 --> 0:19:46.080 bringing portable televisions to grave sites. 0:19:46.440 --> 0:19:49.200 It's nice. Actually it was living. It's nice. 0:19:49.240 --> 0:19:51.320 I shed a tear when the Red Sox won. I 0:19:51.359 --> 0:19:53.680 thought I was living my entire life without ever seeing it. 0:19:53.880 --> 0:19:56.000 No, it was nice. It's a nice time to be around. 0:19:56.160 --> 0:19:58.199 I want to wrap it up with something that happened 0:19:58.200 --> 0:20:02.480 on July thirteenth in nineteen seventy seven in New York City. 0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:06.679 This is a big deal. The city essentially collapsed that 0:20:06.880 --> 0:20:10.280 night because all the power in the city went out. 0:20:11.359 --> 0:20:15.080 Imagine being in that city at that time. We have 0:20:15.160 --> 0:20:17.400 no technology. It's not like you can put a cell 0:20:17.400 --> 0:20:22.159 phone on and watching that flicks. This is nineteen seventy seven, 0:20:23.119 --> 0:20:27.120 No remotes for TV, no technology, there's nothing. It was freaky. 0:20:27.640 --> 0:20:30.760 I wasn't there, but it was a freaky occurrence. I 0:20:30.840 --> 0:20:31.399 followed it. 0:20:31.720 --> 0:20:35.080 I think I was in Ohio then and then coinciding 0:20:35.119 --> 0:20:39.320 with that was the Son of Sam situation, which everybody 0:20:39.359 --> 0:20:42.359 was following. They were mesmerized by Son of Sam. I 0:20:42.400 --> 0:20:46.600 remember always being able to look at the Daily News 0:20:46.840 --> 0:20:50.960 or the New York Post, and in fact, I remember 0:20:51.000 --> 0:20:52.080 one time the dude. 0:20:51.920 --> 0:20:57.400 Who was the Daily News reporter, Jimmy Breslin, Jimmy. 0:20:57.040 --> 0:21:00.359 Breslin, I ran into what I ran into book by 0:21:00.359 --> 0:21:02.439 a phone booth and I look in there, I'm like, 0:21:02.760 --> 0:21:06.040 there's the legendary Jimmy Breslin, the guy who was like 0:21:06.160 --> 0:21:09.719 following the Son of Sam thing. And I'm sure by 0:21:09.760 --> 0:21:14.399 the way too, knowing the way Jimmy Breslin wrote, he wrote, 0:21:14.720 --> 0:21:17.199 I'm sure something we could look it up. That was 0:21:17.240 --> 0:21:22.760 a parallel piece to the blackout occurred at a time, 0:21:22.880 --> 0:21:25.159 so you know, I'm sure he put this all the 0:21:25.200 --> 0:21:26.080 dis things together. 0:21:26.200 --> 0:21:29.400 This was pre chat GPT. This is a guy who's 0:21:29.960 --> 0:21:34.560 you know, a cigarette smoking old white things are I. 0:21:34.560 --> 0:21:36.960 Don't mean to talk, yeah, people who smoke cigars. 0:21:37.400 --> 0:21:42.960 Thank you, Brenda Vacaro. The tampax tampon ladies. So I 0:21:43.080 --> 0:21:46.760 sound like, but this was a huge deal with Breslin, 0:21:47.560 --> 0:21:50.360 and then we can wrap this up. David Brooker which 0:21:50.440 --> 0:21:55.000 the serial killer is terrorizing the city, taking brunette women 0:21:55.040 --> 0:21:57.920 out along with whoever they're with on the streets in 0:21:57.960 --> 0:22:03.359 New York. And and at that time he's being talked 0:22:03.400 --> 0:22:07.640 to by in his opinion, the black lab who is Sam, 0:22:08.080 --> 0:22:12.600 in his own backyard. And this is happening at the 0:22:12.640 --> 0:22:15.480 same time that the lights go out in the city. 0:22:15.560 --> 0:22:18.040 City's being terrorized. My parents sent me the same thing. 0:22:18.160 --> 0:22:21.359 I think that's what began my true crime addiction. Every 0:22:21.400 --> 0:22:24.440 day there was someone else being attacked or every couple 0:22:24.520 --> 0:22:26.600 weeks with Son of Sam. 0:22:26.960 --> 0:22:27.840 Yeah, it was. 0:22:28.040 --> 0:22:32.200 It was quite a moment, and it was It's interesting 0:22:32.240 --> 0:22:35.560 thinking about how it would have been reported in today's world. 0:22:36.760 --> 0:22:39.000 I think if it was reported in today's world, and 0:22:39.040 --> 0:22:42.440 I don't want to really go down this hole, I 0:22:42.480 --> 0:22:47.320 think the blackout, specifically, not the Sam part, would be 0:22:47.359 --> 0:22:51.000 reported in conspiracy theory. 0:22:51.480 --> 0:22:56.240 Right, Yeah, you know it would. Yeah, absolutely, it did happen. 0:22:56.280 --> 0:22:59.480 By the way, you remember how Burkowitz was caught, right, 0:22:59.480 --> 0:23:03.040 What caught him, What nailed him? He was getting people 0:23:03.119 --> 0:23:04.760 in parked cars on the street. 0:23:05.160 --> 0:23:07.120 You got a parking ticket, got a parking ticket, That's 0:23:07.119 --> 0:23:09.160