1 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: Happy Funday, Fantasy coaches and welcome to the Fantasy Pros 2 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 1: Football Podcast. I'm your host Bobby Sylvester by my side 3 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 1: producer JP Gaale, and on today's show we'll have guests 4 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: Derek Farnsworth. You probably know better as Notorious from Rhodo Grinders, 5 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,319 Speaker 1: so we will of course be talking about week five 6 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: DFS since Notorious is with us. Hi, Derek, thanks for 7 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: joining us. Bobby, what's going on? Man? I'm pumped about 8 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: this weekend. I built my lineups right before this and 9 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: it's looking good. I'm feeling pretty confident. Last week was 10 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: a good week, but not good enough. I didn't take 11 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: down a big prize, so this is the week. Yeah, 12 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: I kind of feel the same way. The first four 13 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: weeks have been pretty good cash games as far as 14 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: tournaments go, if you had to hit the big one. 15 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: So I'm kind of in in the same boat as you. 16 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: So two years ago I realized you really knew what 17 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: you were talking about when I was reading some of 18 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: your NBA advice. I was doing it a couple of 19 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: times a week, and I thought, Man, this guy's really good. 20 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: Then when I found out you were doing multiple sports, 21 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: I was pumped. How did you become so successful in DFS. 22 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: Did you start like the rest of us, taking your 23 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: lumps or did you just hit a home run from 24 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 1: the get go. No, I definitely took my lumps. I 25 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: think I introduced to DFS towards the end of the 26 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: NFL season, maybe five years ago, and yeah, I, like 27 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: everyone else, had to deposit a few times before I 28 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,279 Speaker 1: got the hang of it. And then basketball season came around, 29 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: and you know, that's always a sport that I've always 30 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: chairshed the most and I knew the most about. So 31 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: once I got the hang of basketball and sort of 32 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: just figuring out, you know, DFS in general, and then 33 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: getting used to the little nuances of each individual sport. 34 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: So did you like build your own algorithm that you 35 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: stand by strictly or what does your research process kind 36 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: of look like? Yeah, so for NFL, you know, I 37 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: have my own set of projections, and I actually love 38 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: using the Fantasy pros, you know, expert consensus rankings, just 39 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 1: to be able to spot some of the best value plays. 40 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: I like to compare those rankings to sort of the 41 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: salary rankings on both FANDEL and DraftKings. Just look for 42 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: miss price, guys, and see you know some of the 43 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: players that some of the experts are higher on than 44 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: I am, and if there's a big difference, you know, 45 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: I'd like to look at see why, you know, I'm 46 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: not as high on that player. So I like to, 47 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 1: you know, read a few different people's articles. Um, you know, 48 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 1: JM to win on Rodo Grander is one of my favorites. 49 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: He's the best Disney Yeah, he's awesome. And yeah, I 50 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: mean Evan Silva from Rodo World got to read his 51 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: matchups callum every week. So, I mean there's a few 52 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: guys that I definitely listen to each week, but for 53 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: the most part, I'm just looking at rankings and my 54 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: own individual projections. All right, Well, what we're gonna do 55 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 1: here today, We're gonna go one position at a time. 56 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: We're gonna be talking about fan duel draft kings prices 57 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,399 Speaker 1: because that's what most people listening play. So we'll start 58 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: here at the quarterback position. I want to talk about 59 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: Tom Brady. Is he going to be the top owned 60 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: quarterback this week? And how many shares are you grabbing? Yeah, 61 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: I think I think he's going to be the highest 62 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: owned player, at least at the quarterback position. But the 63 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: good thing is, you know quarterback, everyone likes to pair 64 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: him with the receivers, especially in tournaments, so usually we 65 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 1: see a pretty even ownership across the position. So even 66 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: if he's twenty to twenty five percent owned, I still 67 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: think you can load up on him in tournaments. You 68 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: don't have to worry about, you know, him being so 69 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: chalk that you have to fade him. So, I mean, 70 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: he's my favorite guy. We know that the Patriots love 71 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: to hold grudges, they don't mind running up the score. 72 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: And you know, we kind of have the double narrative here. 73 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: We have Brady coming back from miss suspension and then 74 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: the Patriots were shut out last week against the Bills 75 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: like them. Oh sorry, go ahead, No, that's a good 76 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: point too. I forgot all about the shutout. I was 77 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: just thinking angry Brady. Plus you have Beligick going to Cleveland. Yeah, 78 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: I mean, there's just so many reasons to like this offense. 79 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: And you know, the Browns defense, they can't stop anybody. 80 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: This will typically set up, you know, for la Garrett 81 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: Blunt type of game because they're favored so big. But 82 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: I think they just come out and throw it all 83 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: over the Browns now do you think Brady's going to 84 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: be ready. I mean, he hasn't been with his teammates 85 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: for four weeks. He's Tom Brady Man, he'll be yeah, yeah, 86 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: you're right. It just makes me nervous. I can't fathom 87 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: playing him in a cash game just because I don't know. 88 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: I mean, you can almost be certain. But that's why 89 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: I'm pretty much staying away from the cash games this week, 90 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: because there's no one who really stands out to me 91 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: at quarterback, and if you don't have a quarterback you 92 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: really trust, I just tend to go GPP in those weeks. 93 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm wrong to do that, but there's a couple 94 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: of guys are really like in GPP, and we'll be 95 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: talking about some of us here in a minute. One 96 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: of them's Brian Hoyer. I think he's the top value quarterback. 97 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: Is there someone else you have in mind as a 98 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 1: top value? I think Lawyer has got to be the 99 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 1: top value available. Derek Anderson would be very interesting if 100 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: Cam Newton gets ruled out, but he's obviously not available 101 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: in the main slate, and then Paxson Lynch would be 102 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: interesting too, if Trevor Simeon gets ruled out. But yeah, 103 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: like you mentioned, I think Howyer is the best value here. 104 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: It's cheap across the industry. You know, he's played well 105 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: against the Cowboys and Lions, got a great match up 106 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: against the Colts. The only thing I worry about is 107 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: his lack of weapons. Kevin White just went on ir, 108 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: Zach Miller, Eddie Royal both didn't practice yesterday. Alshan Jeffrey 109 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: could be shadowed by Vante Davis. Does that worry you 110 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: at all? Oh? Yeah, definitely does. Vonta Davis is really good, 111 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 1: But I mean it's the Colts defense, so yeah, behind 112 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter who he's passing too. Even if 113 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: some no name guy, I think they'll be able to 114 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: put up Brian Horror will be able to put up 115 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 1: value against that Colts defense even with nobody passing. Packton 116 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: Lynch is a guy who brought up sixty eight hundred 117 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: on FanDuel, and you know that's not as low as 118 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: some of these other players like Cody Kessler and such. 119 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 1: But Packiston Lynch can do it on the ground and 120 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: for a cash game play. I like him a lot 121 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: because you think he's probably gonna get thirty forty rushing yards. 122 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: He might pick up a rushing touchdown and so he 123 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: won't have to do as much through the air, but 124 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: he probably will against the Falcons defense. So yeah, I 125 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: like Packiston Lynch if he place, Yeah, I do too. Somehow, 126 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: the Falcons have gotten up at least three passing touchdowns 127 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: and every game this season. I don't expect that from 128 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: Lynch obviously, but like you mentioned, him being able to 129 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: do suff with his legs, that gives him a much 130 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: higher floor than some of the other quarterbacks. Isn't that 131 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: stat amazing? We're in the fifth week now and they've 132 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 1: given up at least three touchdowns passing in every single game. 133 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: That's gone really overshadowed by how good Matt Ryan's been. 134 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: Then the three hundred by Julio Jones last week. But 135 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: this Falcon secondary, even with Dan Quinn is their coach, 136 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: you would think they'd have a great secondary, but it's 137 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 1: just been abysmal. Yeah, definitely one of my favorite secondaries 138 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 1: to attack, both with quarterbacks and some wide receivers. So 139 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: let's talk about contrarian plays here at quarterback. It seems 140 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: like every week, not every week, I mean, obviously, sometimes 141 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: the chalk guy like Tom Brady ends up being in 142 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: the millionaire lineup. But you know a lot of times 143 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: he sees contrarian quarterbacks like Matt Ryan, who luckily I was, 144 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 1: you know, keyed in on how bad Carolina's secondary is 145 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: this year. And I played Matt Ryan and Hulu Jones 146 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: that we're out last week. But who's the guy that 147 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: it could be this week? I think it might be 148 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: Eli Manning against Green Bay. Wow, I can't believe we're 149 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: on the same page here. I was gonna say, I'm 150 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: gonna say, don't throw up before after I tell you 151 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: this pick. But yeah, I'm glad you're on the same page. 152 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: This is a game where he should have positive game 153 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: script in his favor. The Packers or what we'd like 154 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: to call, you know, pass funnel defense, very good against 155 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: the run, not very good against the pass. They're gonna 156 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: be missing cham Sam Shields again, who's our best cornerback? 157 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean it just sets up a lot 158 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: like the Packers Lions game a couple of weeks ago, 159 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: where the Packers got out to a big lead and 160 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,119 Speaker 1: then Stafford and Marvin Joneses came back and had monster games. 161 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm right there with you. Yeah, in Eli Manning, 162 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: I don't understand why he's so cheap. He's seventy seven 163 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: hundred on FanDuel, right behind Matt Ryan. He's playing at Denver, 164 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: which is virtually an impossible task. Like you said the 165 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: game script, the secondary Sam Shields is probably out. He's 166 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: been in and out of practice all week, so even 167 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: if he does play, he won't be one hundred percent. 168 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: And then Odell Beckham, I know he said he's not 169 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: having fun playing football and he's kind of a distraction. 170 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: He's a headcase whatever it may be. But people have 171 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: been talking down on him all week, and he's the 172 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: type of wide receiver. I don't know if you want 173 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: to call him a diver or what it may be, 174 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: but when people are talking down on him, he's going 175 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: to take it up to another level. And so I 176 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: want to be surprised if he has an explosive game. 177 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: You know, Sterling Shepherd's been reliable. They've got some weapons there, 178 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: and just because Eli Manning hasn't been as good doesn't 179 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: mean that it's going to continue in week five. So 180 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are going to be 181 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: off him, and I don't think they should be. I 182 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: think he's a real strong play this week. Yeah, I agree. 183 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: One more stat you know, Manning has I suspect some 184 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: positive touchdown regression coming soon. He's account of first seventy 185 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: six percent of their total yards, but only fifty six 186 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 1: percent of their touchdowns, So I like his touchdowns to 187 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: go up soon. Now, what about Carson Wentz. I've heard 188 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: a few people throw his name out as as a 189 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 1: good value this week. He's coming off the by He's 190 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: going up against that line secondary. Who I don't think 191 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: the line secondaries as bad. It's just that their schedule 192 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: has been so difficult and so they've been destroyed. But 193 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: I'm not really sure about this pick. I see the 194 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: upside there, but he doesn't especially have any weapons. It's 195 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 1: an away game, what do you think? Yeah, I mean 196 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: it's a great matchup, and you know, the Eagles haven't 197 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: really had a game that would favor you know, the 198 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: passing game. They want to lease every game by fifteen points, 199 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: I believe, so, I mean this is a good spot 200 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: for him. But yeah, he's still a young rookie quarterback 201 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: on the road. Like you mentioned, I don't think the 202 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: Lions secondary is as bad as the numbers indicate. You know, 203 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: Darius Slays the excellent corner. So yeah, I'm with you. 204 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: I like some of the other guys better, but I 205 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: continue to be surprised by what wins it's doing. Now 206 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: if you're fading Tom Brady, and I know that you're 207 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: not going to because you like him, But say you're 208 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: playing a couple of GPP lineups in and you're not 209 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: using Tom Brady in one of them. But when you 210 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: want to spend up on your quarterbacks, who do you like? 211 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: Out of that top tier? There's some good matchups this week. 212 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers against the Giants, Big Ben at home against 213 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: the Jets, Andrew Luck He's probably my favorite this week 214 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: at that banged up Chicago Bears defense, I'm sorry, at 215 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: Indianapolis against that being up Chicago Bears defense. And then 216 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers at Oakland. I think that's a good matchup. Two. Yeah, 217 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: I think you can make a case for all four 218 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: of those guys. If I had to choose one, I'd 219 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 1: probably go with Big Ben at home. We know how 220 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 1: much how much better he plays at home than he 221 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: does on the road. And you know the Jets are 222 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: great against the run, and they're ranked thirty first against 223 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: the past in terms of Dvoa and now he's got 224 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: levy On bellback, who lined up as a receiver and 225 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: something like twenty seven percent of his snaps last week. 226 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: So I mean, he's just got a ton of weapons 227 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: and they're going to be throwing the ball. So I 228 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 1: really like Roethlisberger in both cash games and GPPs. Let's 229 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: use that as a transition here over to the running 230 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: back position, because I want to talk about Levy On 231 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: Bell and I know he's going to be lining up 232 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: at wide receiver some of the time, but that Jets 233 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: front seven it is stout. Is he matchup proof? Is 234 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: Leavey On Bell match up proofer? Should we you know, 235 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: avoid using him against the Jets? So I think he's 236 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,719 Speaker 1: probably the most matchup proof of any running back in 237 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: the NFL. Is because you know, the Steelers us them 238 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: in so many different packages and they line him up 239 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: a receiver, and you know they have such a leathal 240 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: offense that teams can't you know, load up on the 241 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: load the box and try to stop the run. I mean, 242 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: they're still gonna have to worry about Big Ben Antonio Brown, 243 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: and I think it's gonna open things up for for 244 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 1: Levon I mean, I think, you know, until he gets 245 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: you know, over nine thousand on FANDOL and over eight 246 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: thousand on DraftKings, I'm just going to keep playing him. 247 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 1: He saw twenty three touches last week in a game 248 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: that was out of hand, basically a halftime, So I mean, 249 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: I expect him to be a huge part of the offense. 250 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: And you know, he has the freshest legs If any 251 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: running back in the NFL. Right now, would you say 252 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: he's in the majority of your cash game lineups right now? Yes? Ah? Man, 253 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: he makes me so nervous. I'm looking at that. And 254 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: draft Kings says his opponent rank is never four in 255 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: stopping the run, and anytime I see that, I just 256 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: I cringe. And he's the most expensive look I can 257 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: definitely see playing him. I know, you know what you're 258 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: talking about. It still makes me nervous, though, right, Oh yeah, definitely. 259 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: I think the Jets are holding you know, run games 260 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 1: at three point two yards per carry. But again, you 261 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: just gotta think, you know, he's going to get twenty 262 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: plus touches. I steels had the second highest implied team 263 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: total on the board. He's going to get all the 264 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: goal line where I call the red zone touches and 265 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: he's going to see a bunch of targets through the 266 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: air too, so especially on Draft Kings full PPR. I 267 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: think he's a top guy. Now David Johnson doesn't qualify 268 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: for the main slate, so we're not really going to 269 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: talk about him. I do think he's the best play 270 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: this week. I know you already said you think it's Lavon, 271 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: but right behind him, I love Todd Gurley this week. 272 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills have lost so many players in their front seven. 273 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: You know, those that have returned, they're not quite one 274 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 1: hundred percent yet, and Todd Gurley has had a really 275 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: hard schedule to begin with. The game scripts haven't really 276 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: been there for Todd Gurley to explode. I think this 277 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: is the perfect scenario for Gurley. He could bust a 278 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 1: couple of big runs. I like using him. I'm using 279 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: him in all my cash games. How do you feel 280 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 1: about Gurley this week? I think it's definitely a good 281 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: week to hop on Gurley playing at home and they're 282 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: finally favored. The Bills don't have a bad run defense, 283 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: but Girley's pretty much every down back. I mean, he's 284 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,719 Speaker 1: played eighty six percent of the snaps last week, He's 285 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: seeing close to forty percent of the touches total team touches, 286 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: and they're finally using him in the passing game. You know, 287 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: he's always been able to catch the ball, but for 288 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: every reason they haven't used him, And so I really 289 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: like that moving forward. Is there another running back besides Bell? 290 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: Do you think is just you kind of have to 291 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: play him in cash games? This week? One of the 292 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: guys I'm looking at is Jordan Howard. I'm usually not 293 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: a fan of taking the underdog running backs on the road, 294 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: but I think this is a spot where, you know, 295 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: his production doesn't really rely on game flow. He's gonna 296 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: get all the snaps and he's gonna get work, whether 297 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: it's in the running game or the passing game. And 298 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: I want to have exposure to the Spars offense. So 299 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: if I'm paying up a quarterback and I'm not going 300 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: down to Hoyer, I really like getting Howard in there 301 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: so I can get some of the some exposure to 302 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: this Colts defense. Yeah, and you talked about their banged 303 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,719 Speaker 1: up wide receiver corps. Howard, it's probably gonna get a 304 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: couple of extra targets this week as a result. So yeah, 305 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 1: I'm almost certain he's gonna hit value. I'm pretty sure 306 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: he's going to be highly owned. He looked good last 307 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: week and that matchup last week was real good, so 308 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: it makes him look better than he is. But you know, 309 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: this is not a bad scenario for Howard again. One 310 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: guy I really like is James White really only on 311 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: PPR Draft Kings full PPR Draft Kings. He's thirty nine hundred. 312 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: Tom Brady's coming back. We know he was great when 313 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: tom Brady was there last year and Dan Lewis was hurt. 314 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: I think this is pretty much an ideal game for 315 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: him going to Cleveland. Who you know, they can't stop 316 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: the run, they can't stop running backs out of the 317 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: backfield catching the ball. I like him a lot at 318 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: that price. Yeah, I really like that call. Anytime we 319 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: expect the Patriots to be passing a lot, you definitely 320 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: want their pass catching running back. And yeah, with Cronk 321 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: banged up a little bit, White could see quite a 322 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: bit of work in this one, especially if they decided 323 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: to spread it out against the Browns. Let's switch it 324 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: over and talk about GP for this question. Here we 325 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: saw seven Coleman and Matt Jones and a bunch of 326 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: GPP winning lineups lately the past two weeks, which obscure 327 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: back could it be this week? I'm gonna go THEO Riddick, 328 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: assuming Duwayne Washington is out. I think he's gonna see 329 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: You know, close to eighty percent of the SNAPS lines 330 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: are underdogs against the Eagles, which always sets up well 331 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: for Riddick. They should be thrown a lot, especially if 332 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: if they get down early. And you know, he's averaging 333 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: six and a half targets per game and even saw 334 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: some goal line work last week. You know, he didn't 335 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: get in the end zone, but if he's getting those 336 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: goal one carries, that really improves his value. So I 337 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: don't think a lot of people are gonna be on him, 338 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: but I may have him in some in a few tournaments. 339 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: Philadelphia has been really good against the run so far 340 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: this season, and I've had a couple emails and tweets 341 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: thrown at me, even a review on our iTunes saying 342 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: that I'm busting on an Eagles defense too much. The 343 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: matter of the fact is they were by far the 344 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: worst run defense in the league last year. I know 345 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: they got a new coach, I know they made some changes, 346 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: they're a little healthier, but right now they're third in 347 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: stopping the run. That's not going to keep up. There's 348 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: gotta be some regression there. And look, I was wrong. 349 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: I was saying they were the worst run defense. Again, 350 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: it's pretty evident that they're not. But like you're saying, 351 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: this could be a sneaky contrarian play. I like theoretic 352 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: there for me. The guys, now that Latavius Murray's doubtful, 353 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: he's in the walking boot, it's Washington over in Oakland. 354 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: What do you think about him this week at that 355 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: real low price. Yeah, I mean he's getting more touches 356 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: each and every week, and that show only go up 357 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: this week with Latavius Murray out. So I like that call. 358 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: You know, I don't expect to be an every down player, 359 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: but I think he could see thirteen to sixteen touches, 360 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: which is definitely good against the Chargers. So I like 361 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: that call. Law, And we haven't really heard anything about 362 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: Matt Forte. He was carted off, went to the X 363 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: ray room and apparently he's gonna play, but is blalpal 364 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: is he could play this week just in case Fourte 365 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: doesn't suit up. Yeah, I mean, I think you want 366 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: to keep your eye on him. If Forte is unable 367 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: to go, Yeah, we'll probably have to wait until Sunday 368 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,239 Speaker 1: morning to know that one. And then finally, I want 369 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: to talk about Jeric McKinnon. Now, Jeric McKinnon is immensely talented. 370 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 1: If you just watched the film of this guy, he 371 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 1: could be an RB one. I've been talking about it 372 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: all preseason, and finally he's got the job. He started 373 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 1: off with two rough matchups, and he even looked good 374 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 1: last week against a good run defense. Now Houston's got 375 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: some big injuries on there on their defense, in Minnesota's 376 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: playing a home game. I think this game script sets 377 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 1: up well for McKinnon. He's a real cheap two four 378 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: thousand dollars on draft Kings. Do you think he could 379 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: just absolutely explode here? Yeah, definitely. I was hoping he 380 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: wouldn't have a good game on Monday night against the Giants, 381 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 1: is because I wanted that ownership to stay low. But 382 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be pretty popular. Like he said, 383 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 1: he's very talented, and I don't think it's not much 384 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: of a hot take to say, you know, he's as 385 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 1: good as Adrian Peterson. At this point in their careers. 386 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, if you're just weird to think, 387 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: you know, can you start Adrian Peterson for a Grand 388 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: against the Texans? You do it every time? Right? That 389 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 1: is awesome. That is a serious hot take. I'm really 390 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 1: glad to hear you say that because it like kind 391 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: of confirms what I've been saying all year, Like this 392 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: guy is so good. If you guys haven't seen the 393 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: Vikings play this year, tune in watch that game, find 394 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: a way to see it, stream it online. Jerrick McKinnon 395 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: is a special talent. I mean, think a mirab Dullah, 396 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: but he can he can do a lot more than 397 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 1: a mirab Dula. He's got those crazy cuts. He's a 398 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: fantastic young talent. I'm looking forward to seeing what he 399 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 1: does in his career. Derek Who's another mid range player 400 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: that no one's really talking about that you think could 401 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: end up finishing the top three somehow. All Right, So 402 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: he's kind of in the upper tear. But I really 403 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: like the spot for C. J. Anderson at home against 404 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 1: the Falcons. Like we mentioned, their defense has not been 405 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: good this year. I haven't been able to stop the 406 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: run or the pass, and anytime c. J. Anderson is 407 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: a favorite at home. He got to like his chances. 408 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 1: He sees all the goal line work you should see 409 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 1: twenty plus touches, and I don't think a lot of 410 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: people are really on him. You know, a lot of 411 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: people have him ranked inside their top five in terms 412 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: of their running back rankings for the week, but I 413 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: haven't heard very much buzz about him from a DFS 414 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 1: point of view, So I think he's a really good player. 415 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 1: How do you feel about Ezekiel Elliot this week? He's 416 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: at home against Cincinnati. He's coming off two real good weeks, 417 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: and you know, I know Cincinnati's defense is a lot better, 418 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: but I don't think it's the kind of of matchup 419 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: that you completely avoid. Ezekiel Elliott is one of the 420 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,959 Speaker 1: top three most talented running backs in the NFL as 421 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned, based on what I've been seeing lately. 422 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: So do you think he could you know, be low 423 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 1: owned two five percent or something like that and then 424 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: have the number one week he does. He doesn't seem 425 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 1: to let anyone down yet. I mean, anybody that's played him, 426 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: you know, has liked, you know, how he's fired, So 427 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: I think he'll be more popular than that. But even 428 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: if he's ten percent or so, I think I think 429 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: that's a good pick. Uh. You know, if you're talking 430 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: about a top three running back in terms of talent 431 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: and then you put him behind the best offensive line 432 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 1: in the NFL, you know good things are going to 433 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: happen in regardless of the opponent. So I think that's 434 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: a good call too. If you guys are listening to 435 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: the show and enjoying it, please just jump over to iTunes, 436 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,719 Speaker 1: take thirty seconds to subscribe and leave us a review. 437 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 1: Really helps us out a lot. All right, Derek, let's 438 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 1: move over and talk about wide receiver, and I've got 439 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: to start with Odell Beckham. This volatile attitude. Is it 440 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: worth the risk in cash games? I mean, it's a 441 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: great matchup and he's not a bad price considering his 442 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: skill set, But are you taking that risk? I don't 443 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 1: think I can do it in cash games. I'm gonna 444 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: have a ton of exposure to him in tournaments. Kind 445 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 1: of reminds me of last week when everyone else was 446 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: off of Julio Jones because he put up a dud 447 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: against the Saints and then he came back and had 448 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: that monster game. It seems like a lot of people 449 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: are gonna be off with Beckham this week, even though 450 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: it's a great matchup against the Packers. But yeah, I 451 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 1: mean the Giants came out today and said that if 452 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: he has another tantrum, they're going to consider suspending him 453 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: for a game or two themselves. So I mean it's 454 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: just really really risky right now. I wouldn't take him 455 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: in cash games, but him and Eli is one of 456 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: my favorite tournament pairings. Now if you need to save 457 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: money this week, who's a real cheap option with some 458 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 1: major upside at wide receiver. So this hinges on the 459 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: status of Dez Bryant, But I really like Bryce Butler. 460 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: Didn't practice Thursday, and Butler played more snaps than any 461 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,959 Speaker 1: wide receiver on the Cowboys last week. Played sixty two 462 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: of eighty snaps. He had nine targets, caught five balls 463 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: for forty one yards and a touchdown, and he could 464 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,719 Speaker 1: have caught another touchdown. You know, not a great matchup 465 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 1: against Cincinnati, but he's a big receiver. He's pretty much 466 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: the same size and wait as does and I think 467 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: he's going to get some red zone books. People who 468 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: have been listening to this podcast all year. They're gonna 469 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: laugh really hard when I say this, because I was 470 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 1: so low on this guy and it just kind of 471 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: became a mockery. But Doyle green Beckham, I know he 472 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: hasn't been getting a ton of snaps. I know he 473 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,199 Speaker 1: hasn't been getting a ton of looks. But look, we 474 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: know this guy's an absolute freak in the red zone. 475 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: I think Carson Wentz is going to have a pretty 476 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: good week coming off that by it's a pretty decent matchup. 477 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 1: I can see multiple touchdowns coming his way. He doesn't 478 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: necessarily have to have a one hundred eaving yards or 479 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: anything like that to have a huge week. If you 480 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: put up two touchdowns, you're probably a top five or 481 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: six score, right, Yeah. I mean the problem is, I 482 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: don't know if he's gonna do and get too touchdown man. Yeah, yeah, 483 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,199 Speaker 1: it's very unlikely. But I mean, if you're taking chances 484 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: in GPP, there's worse guys to go to. Oh yeah, 485 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: I mean if you need a really cheap guy, I 486 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: don't mind that. You know, he's got a lot of 487 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: upside and if you could break a long one, he 488 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: could be a difference maker for sure. Now, how about 489 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: one of these cheap Brady wide receivers. You know, Malcolm Mitchell, 490 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 1: who hasn't been playing as much, but you know they 491 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: haven't been in three wide receiver sets because they've been 492 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 1: running out j Kobe Brizzett or Danny Amandola, who we 493 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 1: still have a good week a couple of weeks ago. 494 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 1: Which of these guys do you think might be worth owning. 495 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 1: I'm actually gonna go Chris Hogan. There you go, Yeah, yeah, 496 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 1: I mean you can really take your pick. I mean, 497 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,439 Speaker 1: the Patriots are gonna spread the ball around, a lot 498 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 1: of people are gonna get, you know, their production. But 499 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: I like Hogan. You've got Edelman running the underneath routes, 500 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 1: and I think you know he's gonna get some looks 501 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: in those intermediate routes. If you know, we know Brady, 502 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: he likes to lock into his receiver, So if he 503 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: gets something going with one of them, he's just going 504 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: to keep attacking that matchup. And so yeah, I mean, 505 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,479 Speaker 1: I like Para Nam with Edelman the most, but if 506 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: I'm going off the board, I like Hogan a bit too. 507 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: Now I've got kind of a fiery question. It came 508 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 1: into my email inbox and I thought I've got to 509 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: ask Derek about this one. He'll have a much better 510 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: answer than me. If a wide receiver like Michael Crabtree 511 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: has a huge week, does it correlate the success the 512 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: following week. I don't think so. I mean usually when 513 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: that happens, you know, they have a letdown week the 514 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: next week or and they tend to be over owned 515 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: in DFS, So whenever that happens, I usually try to 516 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: avoid him, unless the matchups just so good that you can't. 517 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: And the terms of Crabtree, you know, he's only sixty 518 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: nine hundred on fan too us. I mean, he's gonna 519 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: be popular, and I think he's still in a good spot. 520 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: He's certainly playable. But for a guy like Julio Jones 521 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: coming off that three hundred yard game, you know he's 522 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: gonna be over owned. He's got to tearle matchups. I'm 523 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: getting off of Julio this week. You know, I was 524 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 1: studying our projected ownership data that we've been putting out 525 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 1: there just so I can figure out, like if we're 526 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: missing somewhere and where we are missing, so that we 527 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 1: can figure out how to fix it. In almost every 528 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: circumstance where we're missing. It's because a player the previous 529 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 1: week had a huge week and so everyone's really high 530 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 1: on him, and then typically it looks like the guy 531 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: goes backwards where the player had a terrible leak week, 532 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: like Julio Jones put up the stinker and Calvin Benjamin, 533 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: you know, put up the doughnut a couple of weeks ago, 534 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: and then everyone's afraid to play him. And we know 535 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 1: that that's you know, people say that that happens, but 536 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: how extreme it is, it's just absolutely absurd to me. 537 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: I mean, you have to play the matchups and the 538 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: factors and all that stuff every week. You can't just say, well, 539 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: he was good last week, so his entire career trajectory 540 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 1: must have completely changed in one week, right, Yeah, And 541 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 1: I think going off the crab Street thing, I think 542 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: this could be a good week to buy low an 543 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: Amari Cooper. Everyone's just hating the guy right now, saying 544 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: he's you know, they're wide or two or three or 545 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: something crazy like that. You know, but he's had a 546 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 1: couple of big plays called back and he stepped out 547 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: of bounds on one, and it's only amount of time 548 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: before he breaks out. And if you can get him 549 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: at a fifth of the ownership as Crabtree. I'll take 550 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 1: my chances anytime with that. So there's not as much 551 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: volatility at the wide receiver position we tend to see. 552 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 1: You know, some of these elite wide receivers tend to 553 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: be in the top three or four, but every once 554 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 1: in a while one of these contrarian players sneaks in. 555 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 1: It was Marvin Jones a couple of weeks ago, who's 556 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: really emerging. We got to be honest about that. And 557 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs, who is another emerging player, probably a late 558 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: wide receiver two in standard fantasy leagues. But who's one 559 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,959 Speaker 1: of these mid tier guys that you could see just 560 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: exploding this week? I'm gonna go with Brandon Marshall. Eric 561 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 1: Decker didn't play last week, and he didn't practice on Thursday. 562 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: It sounds like he's closer to doubtful than questionable. And 563 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 1: with Decker out, Brandon Marshall saw a twenty nine percent 564 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: Marcus share. We know Ryan Fitzpatrick's been terrible, but he 565 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 1: loves to throw the ball to Marshall, especially when Decker's out, 566 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: and you know, we saw a pretty good game from 567 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: him last week. You finally looked a little bit of help, 568 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: a little bit healthier, caught four passes for ninety t 569 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: yards and a touchdown against a very tough Seattle secondary. 570 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: And they're going to come into this game against Pittsburgh. 571 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: They're gonna have to keep up. You're gonna have a 572 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 1: score points to keep up, and it should be a 573 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 1: good game flow for him. I think he could see 574 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: you know, fifteen targets or so. So at seventy six 575 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: hundred on Fandel seventy one hundred on draft Kings, I 576 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: think there's a decent chance he could end up being 577 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: a top two or three receiver. There's two wide receivers 578 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: here that kind of stand out to me. Jarvis Landry 579 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: and Emmanuel Sanders have both been having very good years. 580 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 1: They're getting a ton of targets. You know, Damary's Thomas 581 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: hasn't really been himself. He's questionable again. He's going up 582 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: against Atlanta's defense. So I think Sanders could be any 583 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 1: for a huge week. Jarvis Landry is going up against 584 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 1: Tennessee and you know they're gonna be able to stop 585 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 1: the run, especially with whatever's going on in that in 586 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: that Dolphins backfield. So I think Ryan Tannehill airs it 587 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: out and Jarvis Landry's really is only guy. I mean, 588 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 1: I know you've got Davonte Parker, but it's just it's 589 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 1: really not even close. Landry is far and away Tannehill's 590 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: favorite target. They don't have much going on in the 591 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: running game out of the backfield with passing and their 592 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 1: tight end. Cameron's probably out again with a concussion, so 593 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: I think Landry could put up the most targets this week. 594 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: And if that's the case, you know, there's always a 595 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: lot of upside there. Our ownership projections right now have 596 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: these guys at nine and ten percent. Do you think 597 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: they're under owned at that at that spot? Oh yeah, 598 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 1: I definitely wanted to be over or have more exposure 599 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: than that compared to the field. I'm looking at my 600 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 1: spreadsheet right now and both of them at Alisa market 601 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: share of thirty three percent, which is just massive. So 602 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: I like to call them, both of those guys, especially 603 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: with Fonta Parker and Marius Thomas banged up a little bit. 604 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 1: Now we know the Redskins secondary has been very bad, 605 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: even though they added Josh Norman their twenty seventh in 606 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: against wide receivers and giving up fantasy points. So who 607 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 1: do you like out of here? Steve Smith's been getting 608 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: a lot of targets, but Mike Wallace has been really 609 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 1: good this season. We know by Schard Perriman can break out. 610 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 1: It is there one guy that you're targeting out of 611 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: the Ravens Wide receiver corps, And yeah, I'd probably just listen, 612 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: you know, the b reporters see if Norman's going to 613 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 1: follow shadow any of these guys. If that's the case, 614 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: I'd obviously go with the opposite of Steve Smith or 615 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: Mike Wallace. But but as of right now, I think 616 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: Mike Wallace is the play. You know, Steve Smith, I mean, 617 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: he's been awesome, but he's yeah, I don't know. I mean, 618 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: he's just hard to trust a guy that's that hold 619 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: coming off that type of injury. Yeah, yeah, you're exactly 620 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: right about that. I still like Steve Smith just because 621 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: I think the volume is going to be there. But man, 622 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: Mike Wallace, we know what he can do in GPP 623 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: and it it is exciting now Over in that San 624 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 1: Diego Chargers receiver corps again, it's an absolute mass Keenan 625 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: Allen's gone, Danny Woodheads not catching fasses anymore. So someone's 626 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: got to catch passes against this Oakland Writer's defense, right, 627 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: Who's it going to be? Yeah, I don't know. I 628 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: mean it seems like every week someone else breaks out. 629 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: You know, Travis Benjamin had his big week, and then 630 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: Tyrol Williams and then last week with dontre in Man. 631 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: So I mean it's really tough to predict at this point. 632 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: I think if you want exposure to this game, I'd 633 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: rather go with the naked Philip Rivers and then that way, 634 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: you know, you just get good exposure to all of 635 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: his weapons. So yeah, I mean it's tough. Let's move 636 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: over to tight end. I want to talk about Gronk. 637 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: I know everyone's afraid to play him. He already burned 638 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: me once this season. Is he actually going to play 639 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: enough to be startable in DFS? So last week he 640 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: played enough snaps to be startable. He played sixty seven percent, 641 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: but he only ran thirteen pass routes. I think that 642 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: had to do more with you know, their quarterback, and 643 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: they were just trying to run the ball the entire game, 644 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: even though they were down, they didn't really throw the 645 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: ball a lot. So I think with Tom Brady Brack, 646 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: He's going to be running a lot more pass routes. 647 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: I don't expect him to get over one hundred yards, 648 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: but I definitely think a two touchdown game is in 649 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: the realm of possibility. So I think this is the 650 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: first week that he's playable in DFS. So in order 651 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: to be the top tight end in fantasy points, you 652 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: almost have to score two touchdowns every week. There's gonna 653 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: be five or six guys who put up, you know, 654 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: fifty to eighty receiving yards in a touchdown, but those 655 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: two touchdowns that'll really put you over the top. Since 656 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: no one's getting one hundred and forty receiving yards from 657 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: tight end. So who's it going to be this week? 658 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: Who's someone that could finish with multiple touchdowns at the position? 659 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: All Right, I'm gonna go with Delaney Walker going up 660 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: against the Dolphins. He was a hot commodity a few 661 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: weeks ago, and then he had a subpar game last 662 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 1: week coming back from his injury. But he's still the 663 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: Titans best wired out pretty much, and the Dolphins are 664 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: ranked thirtieth and DVOA against tight ends this season. As 665 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: prices come down a bit across the industry, and you know, 666 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: we know he's a target monster when he's healthy, So 667 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: I think he's an interesting player. Gary Barnage hasn't really 668 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: been doing anything, and look, I know they have Cody Kessler, 669 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: but the New England Patriots are going to have a 670 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: huge lead in this game, so they're the Browns are 671 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: just gonna have to pass the ball. And Prior is 672 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 1: going to be shadowed by Butler. I talked about this 673 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: last episode, and I know they moved Prior around the field, 674 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: Like I get that, but I think Barnege is due 675 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: for a bunch of targets. Do you like Barnee this week? Yeah? 676 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: He wasn't really on my radar before the show, but 677 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: I like all the points you make, especially with trelle 678 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: Pryor being by brother. So yeah, like you mentioned, they're 679 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: going to be thrown a lot and he's basically playing 680 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: all the snaps and so yeah, I think he could 681 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: see upwards of ten targets in this now. Is there 682 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: a tight end that you consider super safe for cash games? 683 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: I know Kyle Rudolph mcgetting a lot of looks and 684 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: a lot of mentions this week. Is he a got 685 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: you likers or someone else? Yeah? So I think it's 686 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: another good week to punt the position. And you know 687 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: a lot of these cheaper plays kind of are hinging 688 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: on different injuries. I mean, Zach Miller didn't practice, but 689 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: I like his matchup against the Colts. Hunter Henry's going 690 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: to be a great play if Gates is unable to 691 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: suit up, and then Zach Ertz is coming back from 692 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: his injury. We know, we like Carson Wentz, and we 693 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: know how talented Urch is, and then you mentioned Rudolph, 694 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of great plays just right in 695 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: this same price range. It's really going to come down 696 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: to the injuries for me. But yeah, I think it's 697 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 1: a great week and to punt the tight end position. 698 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: One GP people tight end that I'm really excited about 699 00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: is Richard Rogers, just because anybody the Aaron Rodgers could 700 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: be thrown the ball too, especially at that price. Seems 701 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: like a good play in a week where it makes 702 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: sense to punt the tight end and spend up on 703 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: some of these guys, you know, Levan Bell, Todd Gurley, 704 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: have you at the wide receiver position. You could buy 705 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: a guy like Richard Rogers, who you know, he's so 706 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: cheap and he just picks up a touchdown or two. 707 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: You know, we know Aaron Rodgers probably gonna have two, three, 708 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: maybe four or five touchdowns, and maybe one of those 709 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: will go to Rogers. Randall Cobb hasn't been much of 710 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: an asset. They're coming off the buy and I think 711 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: it could be a good week for the Packers' offense. Yeah, 712 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: I like that call. He's a little more Priceyon Fando, 713 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: but only twenty nine hundred dollars on DraftKings, So yeah, 714 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: I like that. All right, over to defense, who's a 715 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: contrarian play that could force a bunch of turnovers this weekend. 716 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the Dolphins. Who wanted to go 717 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: with the Steelers against the Jets and Ryan Fitzpatrick, but 718 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: everyone seems to be talking about the Steelers, so I 719 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: had to mix it up a little bit. Anyway, Dolphins 720 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: very cheap across the industry. They're favored at home, which 721 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: I always like to look for my defense. They have 722 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: the best adjusted sackray in the NFL, which was a 723 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: bit surprising to me. And then streaming defenses against the 724 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: Titans has just been very profitable the first four weeks 725 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: of the season, So yeah, I like the Dolphin. I 726 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: kind of got burned by the Dolphins the other week 727 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 1: they were playing, I think it was the Browns, and 728 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: I thought that they were going to force a bunch 729 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 1: of turnovers and it didn't quite work out that way. 730 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: Marcus Marriott is a totally different story than Cody Kestler, 731 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 1: who's you know, of the Alex Smith mold. He's he's 732 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: trained to hold onto the ball. He's not going to 733 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: be trying to make a bunch of plays, and so 734 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: you know, I definitely get that pick this week. One 735 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: that I think is really intriguing. I talked about this 736 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: on the Wednesday show when we were talking about season 737 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: long rankings. For the week, I'm picking up the Indianapolis 738 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: Colts for a streaming playing season long league. So you know, 739 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: I could see slipping them into a GPP lineup against 740 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: the Bears. They're going to be throwing the ball a lot. 741 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: Brian Hoyer has no regard for just slinging the ball 742 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 1: wherever if there's two or three people, the gardeners guys 743 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: and and like you said, all his wide receivers are hurt. 744 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: So this could be one of those weird matchups where 745 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: the Colts have only good defensive performance of the season. 746 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: I'm not banking on I'm not playing him in cash games. 747 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: The team that I am playing in cash games is 748 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. And look, I know that the Los 749 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 1: Angeles Rams are three and one. I would not be 750 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 1: the least bit surprised if they finished three and thirteen. 751 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: This is a bad team they have. They have case 752 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: Keenum at quarterback, who fumbles the ball as much as 753 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 1: anybody in the history of the NFL. It seems like 754 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: hezros a ton of picks. Their offensive line is in shambles. 755 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: I know I already mentioned Todd Gurley's going to have 756 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: a big week, at least I think so. But you know, 757 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,320 Speaker 1: even if he does have a big week, it comes 758 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 1: down to turnovers, and I think the Los Angeles Rams 759 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 1: are going to be a turnover prone team the rest 760 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,800 Speaker 1: of the season. Yeah, I like that call. I definitely 761 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 1: wouldn't use Girle in the Bills together kind of working 762 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: against each other, But yeah, I think that's a good, 763 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 1: good pick. I think Keenum could turn the ball over 764 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 1: quite a bit. My favorite defense is probably the Vikings. 765 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 1: They've just been awesome so far this season. They're favored 766 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: by six and Texans are the lowest implied team total 767 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 1: on the board. The Vikings have already fours, eleven and 768 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,879 Speaker 1: overs and they're playing at home, so I think it's 769 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 1: a good spot for them. Do you think they'll be 770 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 1: the most owned defense or do you think it'll be 771 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 1: the Steelers. I think it'll be close, but I think 772 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 1: everyone's going to gravitate toward the Vikings. All right, Derek, 773 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: let's finish this up. Talk about some stacks. If you 774 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,879 Speaker 1: had to pick one stack for cash games, which team 775 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,359 Speaker 1: do you trust the most? All right? So we talked 776 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: about him earlier. I'm on team Brady this week, and 777 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 1: I like pairing them up with Julian Edelman, especially in 778 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 1: full PPR sites. I think it's a great spot for 779 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: this passing offense. We know the Browns are terrible, we 780 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: know the Patriots have a point to prove. We know 781 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: Brady's angry. There's a lot of reasons like them. What 782 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: about you, I don't know how you can go against 783 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 1: the Patriots. I mean, you know, Belichick and Brady're gonna 784 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: try to run up the score. There's it's just gonna happen. 785 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 1: But as far as stacks go, I think Brady just 786 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: spreads the ball around so much that I'm afraid to 787 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,879 Speaker 1: use them in GPP, just because I don't mind using 788 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,320 Speaker 1: Brady and GPP. But I don't know which wide receiver 789 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: to pick. I'man sure maybe someone will have two or 790 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 1: three touchdowns, but more likely it's going to be five 791 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: separate guys with one touchdown. So the stack guy like 792 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 1: is the Green Bay Packers. I think that that's going 793 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 1: to be a shootout of a game. And that's what 794 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: I like to look for in my stacks, is you 795 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: know who's going to be the team that needs to 796 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:13,919 Speaker 1: pass the ball in the fourth quarter because it's still 797 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: a close game. So I like Aaron Rodgers. I love 798 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 1: Jordy Nelson this week. I don't care how many people 799 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: are guarding him. Aaron Rodgers and Jordy Nelson just have 800 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,439 Speaker 1: it going on. And so I already mentioned I don't 801 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 1: I don't mind using Rodgers. I think he's going to 802 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 1: be pretty low owned, and so you know, if he 803 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,760 Speaker 1: grabs a touchdown or two and Jordy Nelson does Aaron 804 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: Rodgers and that stack, it could put you at the top. 805 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 1: There's a lot of guys that could put you at 806 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 1: the top. But that's the one I trust the most. Yeah, 807 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: and I didn't even consider to throwing becommended that stack 808 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 1: as well. You know, one of the most correlated things 809 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 1: is posing quarterbacks. So when one quarterback goes off, the 810 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: other one tends to go off as well. And the 811 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 1: only way you can get exposure to that is by 812 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 1: targeting the opposing wide receiver one. So I definitely like that, Derek, 813 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: that that's a really great point. I'm glad you brought 814 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: that one up. Let's close with this question, which contrarian 815 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: stack could lead to a million dollar lineup this weekend? 816 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 1: So all three of these players are going to be 817 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 1: highly owned individually, but I don't think very many people 818 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 1: are going to go with the full Big Ben, Levion 819 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 1: and Antonio stack. You know, the three of them are 820 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: so expensive it's going to be hard to fit them 821 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 1: all in the same lineup. But we've seen them take 822 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 1: down millionaire makers twice last year, you know, just because 823 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 1: their whole offense basically runs through Bell and Antonio and 824 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 1: oftentimes they're coming from touchdowns from Big Ben. So they're 825 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 1: my favorite contrarian stack. You know, a lot of people 826 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 1: are going to be on Ben and Antonio and Ben 827 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 1: and Bell, but it's going to be tough for people 828 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 1: to stomach Roster and all three of them. For me, 829 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not sure how contrarian this is, because 830 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are going to use 831 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,720 Speaker 1: Horriors since he's such a good value. But I really 832 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 1: like this Bear stack. They're gonna have to try to 833 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: keep up with the Colts and they shouldn't have any problem. 834 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 1: It's going to end up being a close game. I 835 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 1: think the Colts will win, but I want to be 836 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 1: surprised all off the Bears end up score thirty plus points, 837 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 1: and you know, with their price points, Brian Horrier is 838 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,800 Speaker 1: so cheap. I think Alshan Jeffrey is just going to 839 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,879 Speaker 1: get completely peppered with targets. And then I like Jordan 840 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,800 Speaker 1: Howard and you already mentioned him out of the backfield. 841 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,399 Speaker 1: He's going to get a bunch of touches too. So 842 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,360 Speaker 1: I could see those three guys combining for you know, 843 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 1: near one hundred points, and at those prices, that is 844 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 1: an incredible value. Yeah, I like that as well. All right, Derek, 845 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 1: Well that's all the questions we have for you this week. 846 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 1: I really appreciate you coming on and good luck. This weekend. Yeah, 847 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 1: thanks for having me on a lot of fun and 848 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 1: good luck to you too, all right, take care, and 849 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 1: then wraps up the podcast for this week. Next week, 850 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: we've got three more shows coming for you, highlighted by 851 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,399 Speaker 1: Jamie Eisenberg of CBS Sports on Monday to talk about 852 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 1: the top waiver wire pickups. Make sure to tune him 853 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 1: for all those shows, and please take a few seconds 854 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,800 Speaker 1: to subscribe on iTunes and leave us a rating review. 855 00:38:49,280 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, and enjoy your football. I don't even 856 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 1: know how to get street barks, like Dog said, gigging 857 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,400 Speaker 1: and begging and saying desiring up trouble