WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Cooped Up 0:00:02.279 --> 0:00:04.760 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.800 --> 0:00:06.400 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:08.680 --> 0:00:16.079 Cowboys Let's go. Are you ready for a break? 0:00:16.360 --> 0:00:16.640 Yes? 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:21.759 Are you ready for a break? Absolutely ready for a break? Yeah, 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:23.680 and so much for that. 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:28.040 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:35.720 with Ambar Garcia, Brian brought Us, Nick Harris, and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:40.920 It is Thursday, November seventh, twenty twenty four, Season twenty, 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:43.080 episode number sixty four. Welcome to the latest edition of 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:45.280 The Break. 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Cowboys versus Eagles coming up this weekend. 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:17.080 We'll talk about the Eagles defense versus this Cowboys offense 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:19.000 for most of the show. We'll try to get some 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:21.440 questions as well. I have a few already that have 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:23.480 flowed in from Twitter. You guys can also hit us 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:25.400 on the phone lines eight eight eight eight five five 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:28.679 two two nine seven in the third segment. 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:35.600 Today, even giving up phone numbers and everything. Okay, I'm 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:36.240 not in the movie. 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:39.440 I'm literally not in the mood for your stuff today. 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:40.520 I'm not you. 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:44.280 Have you ever watched a magic d act Look at 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:48.000 my hands, Look at my hands. Don't focus over here, look. 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:50.040 At my hand in the mood, man, I'm not in 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:50.480 the movie. 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:51.840 That's my favorite of the show. 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:55.200 All right, let's get it. 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:58.000 It's the number. Please, Sorry I interrupted. 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:01.560 Eight eight eight five five seven. 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:05.920 Please call in third segment, Third segment, third segment. 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:08.880 All right, Uh, let's go to let's go to some 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:09.920 injury updates. 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:12.880 We've got several guys. 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:16.440 That that misspracticed yesterday. Uh drawn Bland obviously he's been out. 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:19.760 Eric Kendricks with a shoulder, Zach Martin with a shoulder, 0:02:20.320 --> 0:02:23.400 one Yea Thomas with a concussion, and Nick Vigil with 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:23.880 a foot. 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:25.720 What are we hearing about these folks? That did not 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:26.480 practice yesterday. 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:28.799 Yeah, I'll go from bottom to the top one. Yay, 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:31.880 Thomas definitely avoided a more serious injury. But yeah, just 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:33.720 a concussion. They're gonna be smart with him throughout the 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:35.560 week and try to get him through protocols. 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:38.920 But not to make concussion seem small. Absolutely, like just 0:02:38.919 --> 0:02:41.280 a concussion. Not to make it seem ye, not to 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:41.560 make it. 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:45.360 Seems small at all. Absolutely, but it was. It was 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:48.760 initially feared to be a little bit worse. But yeah, concussion. 0:02:48.760 --> 0:02:51.040 They're gonna be smart about the protocols and everything this week, 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:53.600 but uh, they feel confident about where he's progressed day 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:55.800 by day. We'll we'll see more today or tomorrow if 0:02:55.840 --> 0:02:58.040 he gets back on the field. Obviously, Dak did not 0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:00.600 practice with a hamstring. We've we've talked about that one. 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:02.799 Zach Martin with a shoulder. It looks more so like 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:04.440 a like a veteran rest day at the end of 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:07.080 the day. But no, no concerns as of yet about 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:10.840 his availability going into the week. Likewise, with Eric Kendricks, 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:13.560 you know these Wednesday practices, they they tend to be 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:16.639 a little bit on the lighter side. So any any 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:19.920 of these guys that have some nicks and bangs, they 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:22.079 they they will rest them on Wednesday, especially if they're 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:25.000 a veteran like a Kendricks or a Martin. And then 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:27.760 Deron Bland did not practice with the foot. It's starting 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:29.040 to sound more and more like he won't be able 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:32.120 to go once again this week. And then Trayvon limited 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:34.560 with the cav Tyler Guiden limited with a neck and shoulder. 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:36.520 He had kind of tweaked his neck in that game 0:03:36.520 --> 0:03:38.640 against Atlanta. You could kind of see him rolling it 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:41.160 on the broadcast as well. Uh So maybe something to 0:03:41.200 --> 0:03:42.400 keep an eye on throughout the week. But he was 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:44.320 limited yesterday, So good start for him. 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:47.280 With someone like Deron Bland, And obviously there was there 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:49.760 was optimism a few weeks ago that he would be 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:53.440 able to return. Uh he started practicing, had a couple 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:55.480 of days, and then had the setback. 0:03:55.600 --> 0:03:57.280 Yeah, does it get to a. 0:03:57.200 --> 0:04:00.840 Point where they have to start considering maybe shutting him 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:03.600 down for the year just because if it's not getting better, 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:07.000 do you want to risk anything? Especially if things keep 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:09.120 going the way they're going and they're they're not winning 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:12.680 and you've lost Dak for an extended period of time 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:14.920 like at what point or is there a point where 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:16.400 you do that or is he so young in his 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:19.240 career where it's like whatever amount of game action he 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:22.040 can get, even if you're a week, you know, seventeen 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:24.040 in the season, he needs that work. 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:26.200 I think it's a situation for Deron personally. I mean, 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:29.160 he's he's going to be negotiating a contract extension this offseason, 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:31.040 so to get back on the field and to show 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:34.600 that he was what he was. Yeah, there's a lot 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:36.599 of them. There's a lot of them. It's not just 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:40.520 Michael Parsons, but Deron Bland negotiating a contract over the offseason. 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:42.080 It'd be important for him to get back on the 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:44.560 field in some sort of capacity this year, just to 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:46.400 show that he still has the same ability. 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:49.160 He just got here. It's already be looking at Nick 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:50.960 Ferguson all these guys. 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:55.640 Yeah, yeah, no, it's I think to me, just maybe 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:57.640 just to try and help the defense a little bit, 0:04:57.839 --> 0:04:59.720 you know what I'm saying, Just you know, with some 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:02.920 of the it's you know, Carson getting work I think 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:06.080 is good. You know, I mean, if things start to 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:08.520 go really, really south, and maybe you've already believed that 0:05:08.560 --> 0:05:11.720 they're really really south. I know, to them, they're they're thinking, hey, 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:13.680 we could still find ways to win games, we could 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:16.320 still fight a way back, you know, And but it's 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:18.760 been tough. It's been tough. It's been tough on Bland. 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:22.240 And you know, I was so encouraged by some of 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:24.400 the news I was getting, and then the setback. And 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:28.320 then once the setback happened, I didn't even ask anymore. 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:30.120 I didn't even want to know. I didn't want to 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:32.600 know why, you know, I just like I figured there 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:35.120 was something that happened. I mean, I know Britt Brown 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:37.200 and those guys that work extremely hard to get these 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:39.560 guys back on the field. It's got to be a 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:42.800 level of frustration by the you know, the medical staff 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:45.320 and then also the player, you know, because they're going 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:47.520 through a tough situation right now. I mean, they could 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:51.000 they could use Micah Parsons, and they could use Bland, 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:53.160 and they could use you know, a tank, and they 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:55.880 could use all these guys to maybe dig their way 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:58.240 out of this thing. And it's just not looking like 0:05:58.320 --> 0:05:59.839 that's going to be the case right now. 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:03.400 What's crazy. I mean, he's been out this whole time, 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:07.000 the whole time, and even with Micah Parsons when he 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:10.960 talked to the media, he did mention how even with 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:13.920 the breathing and just getting back into form, and Micah, 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:16.320 he's been he played a few weeks to begin with, 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:20.720 so different injuries and situations there. But you know, it's 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:25.200 hard getting back into form when you've been out so long. 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:29.240 And just to make reference of what I just said, Mike, 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:31.880 I mentioned of just obviously he's going to be out 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:33.719 there when he feels like he can fully go. He 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:35.640 doesn't want to take just a few reps. He wants 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:38.920 to go one hundred percent. But he mentioned how it's 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:41.960 been kind of difficult with the breathing and just running 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:45.480 around and doing all that that you feel the difference 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:47.719 that your body is just you haven't been doing the 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:51.600 same type of uh practice and that intensity and all that. 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:54.080 So I would imagine it's the same scenario for a 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:57.720 guy like darn Blend who's been out all season, hasn't 0:06:57.760 --> 0:07:00.240 been out there and it takes a while to to 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:02.520 get going. And the least that you want to do, 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:04.440 and of course they're not going to put him out 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:06.880 there if he's not ready, but the least you want 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:10.600 to do is make the or create some other injury 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:13.560 or make it worse, because we know mentally that's another 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:16.760 thing that you got to deal with. So depending on 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:20.360 where the Cowboys are at, and regardless of him needing 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:22.720 a contract, I do think that what he did last 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:26.680 year was amazing and he broke wrecords and that's good 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:29.320 enough for anyone to want to offer him or extend 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:33.280 him the contract. But I like to seeing these younger 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:35.760 players because you're gonna you're still gonna have to rely 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:38.640 on a lot of these young talent, these young guys 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:39.920 next year as well. 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:42.160 That's the one that's kind of the good and the 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:44.720 bad of what's happening right now for your team is, yeah, 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:47.160 a lot of young guys are playing. The bad thing 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:49.240 about it is you're losing football games. 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:49.520 Yeah. 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:50.760 I think about it as a lot of young guys 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:51.119 are playing. 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:52.840 Yeah, And so you got to think about a lot 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:56.040 of young guys playing, and you know, that's the unfortunate 0:07:56.680 --> 0:07:58.760 thing about you know. I always like to see guys 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:02.800 get opportunity, the young guys, But at what price? 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:04.920 You know, what you know is our you know, is 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:06.880 our season going to continue to go south? 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:09.120 I mean, if we'll still have a chance, I definitely 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:10.600 want their own bland to come back. 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:13.880 Yeah, but I think there's some questions about doc you 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:17.200 know where that situation is, you know, and you know. 0:08:17.280 --> 0:08:19.920 Force we're hearing doesn't that mean doesn't sound good? You 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:23.000 start hearing that that the muscles turned off, the bone 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:26.160 off the bone like, that doesn't sound good. 0:08:26.240 --> 0:08:28.720 No, And then you know there's two options there. There's 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:31.080 just letting it heal and then there's surgery, you know, 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:33.520 and if you take surgery route, and then you're done 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:34.679 for the year kind of things. 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:37.040 So you know, they've. 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:39.120 They've just have not caught any type of break this 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:41.760 year when it comes to, uh, the you know, the 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:42.720 injury front at. 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:44.200 All, and the fact of the matters when you start 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:46.920 talking about the defense specifically, if you want to talk 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:50.439 about Cooper Rush and his ability to win games, especially 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:52.760 in the in the space of time when they want 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:54.880 they need that defense, Like you go back to that 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:57.320 that year when they were when they did win those 0:08:57.320 --> 0:08:59.920 games a Cooper Rush, those four wins the defense all 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:04.840 their opponents to seventeen, sixteen, ten, and ten. This defense 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:07.240 isn't doing that right now, not right now. And so 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:09.440 if you're going to get to that level, if you 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:11.560 have any chance of getting to that level, you're probably 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:13.840 gonna need some of these veterans that you've lost injury 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:16.319 back on your active roster. 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:18.320 And playing on game day in order for you to 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:18.960 be able to do that. 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:21.720 Yeah, all right, let's take our oh real quick. We 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:23.320 do need to talk about a couple of the limited guys. 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:26.960 Michael Parsons back in a limited way. Tyler Guiden was 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:29.880 limited with neck and shoulder injury. Trayvon's still nursing that 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:32.640 calf a little bit, but everything I would assume is 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:36.400 still looking like he's available to play. And then obviously CD, 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:39.880 who Jerriott addressed, has the shoulder injury, he was limited 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:42.600 as well. Let's talk specifically about Michael Parsons. What are 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:43.120 we hearing there? 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:44.959 Yeah, they're taking a day by day with Micah, but 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:46.840 there's a lot of optimism that he's going to go 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:49.719 on Sunday. He would talk to the media yesterday and 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:51.320 he said he feels like he has a high chance 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:53.679 of playing. He was talking like he was going to 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:56.800 place to already talking about defending Saquon, So in his mind, 0:09:56.800 --> 0:09:59.200 he is going to be available for this game, but 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:01.000 it's going to be very day by day. I want 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:03.400 to get him in a full practice before the end 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:05.040 of the week. I know that's typically the goal for 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:08.480 these guys that are coming back from an extensive absence. 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:11.480 And then, like Ambar said and like Mica said yesterday, 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:13.400 as far as him getting his wind back under him 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:15.280 and getting back to game shape, that'll be big as 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:17.640 well and determining how he goes There was also a 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:19.440 couple of Eagles injuries that I thought were notable if 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:21.880 you wanted me to point on. DeVante Smith did not 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:24.120 practice yesterday with a hamstring and then Nolan Smith, are 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:27.480 outside linebacker, did not practice with a groin. Aj Brown 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:30.320 left the game against Jacksonville with akne issue, but he 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:32.680 got back on the field yesterday he was limited. And 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:36.040 then Jalen Hurts was limited yesterday, but they attributed that 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:36.720 to rest. 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:38.560 And Dallas Scott Yeah full full. 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:40.720 Yeah, that was another one. Yeah, yeah, that popped out 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:40.920 to me. 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:42.760 Of course he saw he saw the tape. And then 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:44.880 playing against George. 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:47.120 Kettle, Yeah, they were like, oh, I'm good, Yeah, they 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:47.520 got both. 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:50.040 Wait wait, they don't cover tight ends. 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You there, 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:09.439 I'll try to quick phil Rian. 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:12.760 Let's talk about the Philadelphia defense right now. They are 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:16.240 ranked number two defense in the NFL, their number five 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:20.280 in passing, number five and rushing. That seems pretty zotting. 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:22.720 If you had to say which one they're better at? 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:24.640 Which one would you say they're better at? Brian pass 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:26.160 for defensive rush defense. 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:28.600 Dick, you got a fun on that one. I mean, 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:30.960 I'm saying that pass the buck, but I'm just interested. 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:33.720 I lean rush defense, yeah, because that they have a 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:36.120 little bit more experience there, whereas their pass defense has 0:14:36.120 --> 0:14:38.120 had to kind of come together with the young guys 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:39.640 that they have in the room, but it's still a 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:41.600 solid part of their d I have to give them 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:43.880 credit for how they approached the draft this last year. 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:46.400 They went out and got two of the better defensive backs. 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:49.640 They got my favorite corner in the entire class, Mitchell Mitchell, 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:51.360 and then got Cooper de Gene as well, and he's 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:53.760 been doing a lot of different various roles for them. 0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:56.440 So they they've done such a good job revamping that 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:58.720 secondary and so the pass defense is right up to 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:00.640 par with the rush defense. But I leave rush defense 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:02.800 only because they've they've had that over the course of us. 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:04.760 You know, it's funny when you watch teams and I was, 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:07.400 I went back and the great thing about the next 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:09.720 gen stuff and you can take the film and make it, 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:12.480 give me the explosive runs. I want to see how 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:15.760 people are doing it. And it was to me the 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:18.040 ball was going on the edges. You know a lot 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:20.080 of the big the lot of the big runs were 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:24.680 and it wasn't just okay, shotgun handoff edge run. It 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:29.400 was under center edge run, shotgun edge run. You know, 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:31.760 they've had a little bit if you if you look 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:34.320 at this and I and I was just like, okay, 0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:36.920 there's there's something. There's a rhyme or reason for this. 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:41.440 And if you talk about Sweat, Josh Sweat the one 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:43.960 of the edges or he's released as an outside linebacker 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:47.480 beating you talk about him, and then you also talk 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:51.560 about Bryce Huff who they got from the Jets, and 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:54.720 I'm like, Okay, something's going on here. And I and again, 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:56.880 this is where you can go have fun with some metrics. 0:15:56.920 --> 0:15:58.400 If you want to really look at this as you're 0:15:58.400 --> 0:16:02.800 seeing on tape when opponents have been averaging five point 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:04.880 three yards of carry when they've been on the field, 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:06.640 when they're. 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:09.359 Off, when those two players on the field. 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:11.160 Yeah, when those two players are on the field, five 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:14.520 point three a carry, when those two were off three 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:15.200 point six. 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:16.680 Huh fascinating. 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:19.760 You know, now, Brandon Graham is that. Brandon Graham is 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:23.040 probably their best. When you start to talk about run edge, 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:26.400 you know, veteran savvy, I'm gonna grab you, throw you. 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:28.160 You know, I'm a kind of stshysic. 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:30.360 I'm a stocky, you know, kind of a guy that's 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:34.680 played a million years kind of a guy. He's better 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:38.120 at it. And they've they've had some mistackles along with 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:40.840 But I was just watching because I'm like, okay, does 0:16:40.880 --> 0:16:44.600 anybody run the ball on these guys? And there's you know, Atlanta, 0:16:44.680 --> 0:16:48.080 but we saw Atlanta firsthand. We understand how Atlanta runs. 0:16:48.280 --> 0:16:50.720 You know, they zone you and then they've got those 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:53.560 backs at make. But there were other Green Bay, there 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:56.200 were some teams that I'm not saying Dallas can run 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:58.880 the ball, but it gave me a little hope. They 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:02.680 they're inside are hard to move, you know. Jordan Davis 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:05.159 and Jalen Carter and those guys. Those are big guys. 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:08.120 Milton Williams, those are big guys. You know it's hard, 0:17:08.480 --> 0:17:13.440 but man, it just seemed like to me, huff and sweat. 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:14.879 Up the field, up the field, up the field, up 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:15.800 the field kind of guys. 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:19.320 Take them out of that, you know, take them off. 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:23.080 They play better run defense, so maybe maybe take a 0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:26.240 little advantage. But we talk about Dallas all the time, 0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:28.680 at no point of attack blocking with a tight end. 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:31.560 You know, Hunter Lipkey, how often do you see that? 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:32.160 You know them? 0:17:33.200 --> 0:17:36.320 I think if Dallas is gonna have some success, it's 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:38.439 gonna have to come off the tackles if they're going 0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:39.760 to run the football in this game. 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:42.440 You know, it's interesting that I noted about their run game, 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:46.440 the run defense. They although they're fifth in rushing defense. 0:17:46.119 --> 0:17:48.400 Which is the total amount of yards when you. 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:50.760 Start breaking it down, they're actually giving up four point 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:54.280 four yards per time. Yeah. But here's the interesting thing. 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:57.480 Teams don't run against them. The number of attempt at 0:17:57.600 --> 0:18:01.400 runs yeah from opponents is like the fish lowest amount 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:03.520 in the NFL. Teams just don't run. Do you know 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:05.600 why teams aren't trying to take Avat how. 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:06.520 About this there. 0:18:06.600 --> 0:18:09.880 I think they're eighth in the eighth when it comes 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:14.159 to the least amount of drop back passes. I just 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:16.640 don't think teams have run a lot of plays against them, 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:19.359 got it? You know It's like I mean, like you say, 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:22.760 you know, doubt Dallas. It's it's just so funny when 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:26.800 you start Dallas leads the league and not getting dropped 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:27.400 back passes. 0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:29.879 Well, you know why that is because people run the 0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:30.360 damn ball. 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:33.360 You know, it's rushing attempts, nobody, nobody's throwing the ball 0:18:33.400 --> 0:18:36.040 against out. But you had two games there where the 0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:39.159 Saints and the Ravens through the ball less than twenty 0:18:39.200 --> 0:18:43.200 times in two games. But you're not Philadelphia, not getting 0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:45.600 a lot of drop back passes against them, not getting 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:49.200 a lot of runs against them. So maybe it's it's, 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:51.760 you know, some offensive stuff that's going on for them, 0:18:51.840 --> 0:18:54.880 kind of you know, keeping things together there. I'll say 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:57.800 this though about the Eagles, and they've had some success 0:18:57.800 --> 0:18:59.439 in the last four weeks, and I and I and 0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:05.720 I'm but they have faced the last four weeks offensively. Cleveland, Giants, 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:10.880 Cincinnati and Jacksonville. All those teams are with the exception 0:19:10.920 --> 0:19:14.480 of Cincinnati seventeen in below. When it comes to offense 0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:18.320 and you start about Cleveland is damn last, Jacksonville is 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:20.800 damn near to the bottom. I think their twenty second 0:19:21.200 --> 0:19:23.359 the Giants are down there at the bottom. They face 0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:26.040 some you know, now, hey, you play your schedule. Yeah, 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:29.159 you play your schedule, and they've got talented players. But 0:19:29.359 --> 0:19:32.320 sometimes you catch a run where all of a sudden, 0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:35.200 you're playing against some really good offenses and it's putting 0:19:35.280 --> 0:19:37.880 in harm's way and you're giving up a lot that way. 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:41.280 I think Philadelphia's kind of caught some breaks with some 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:43.600 of their opponents. Somebody's like, tell me, you know, oh, 0:19:43.640 --> 0:19:46.360 the last four games they've done it, they've been top defense. 0:19:47.040 --> 0:19:49.240 You've played some of the worst offenses in the National 0:19:49.280 --> 0:19:50.600 Football Leagues last four weeks. 0:19:50.640 --> 0:19:52.800 The Cowboys saw it last year in that run after 0:19:52.840 --> 0:19:54.479 the bye week, and then they run into that December 0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:56.920 schedule where they see the Bills, the Lions, and the Dolphins. 0:19:56.920 --> 0:19:58.399 So yeah, it's just playing your schedule. 0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:00.840 It's playing your schedule. But you know, hey, you give 0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:01.399 them credit. 0:20:01.760 --> 0:20:04.280 I can say their defensive line, I think they've got 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:07.639 some quality players there. The pass rush now here's another 0:20:07.680 --> 0:20:08.400 thing about them. 0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:09.840 Pressure rates. 0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:12.040 You know, I was just about to go there. 0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:15.080 Pressure rates. We saw this last week with Atlanta. You know, 0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:18.040 this team is given up again. They got fourteen sacks 0:20:18.040 --> 0:20:22.679 in the last four games Cleveland Giants, since they had 0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:26.879 eight sacks against the Giants at fourteen sacks, you know, 0:20:26.960 --> 0:20:30.040 so up until these last four games, it hasn't been 0:20:30.080 --> 0:20:32.480 if you want to go through you know, the losses 0:20:32.520 --> 0:20:35.360 they've had, they've had losses against the teams that are 0:20:35.880 --> 0:20:38.480 I believe that with Tampa was one of their losses 0:20:38.880 --> 0:20:41.439 and it was and then the other one they had 0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:44.040 was Atlanta Top ten offenses. 0:20:44.920 --> 0:20:46.800 Let me ask you something if you if you identified 0:20:46.800 --> 0:20:48.520 this as well, it feels like most of their pressure 0:20:48.600 --> 0:20:52.680 comes from the interior, the middle, not not even necessarily 0:20:53.000 --> 0:20:53.760 they got beasts. 0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:56.520 No, that's that's what I'm saying. The middle pressure is 0:20:56.520 --> 0:20:58.000 what you're going to have to do. And if you 0:20:58.080 --> 0:21:01.600 felt really great about Zach Mark right now, which you 0:21:01.720 --> 0:21:04.560 feel like, man, you're you feel like you see that 0:21:04.720 --> 0:21:06.320 you see the light in the end of the tunnel, 0:21:06.359 --> 0:21:08.840 that's you know, and I hope it's not an oncoming train. 0:21:09.520 --> 0:21:13.280 But but yeah, they've struggled with Martin has struggled with 0:21:13.320 --> 0:21:16.200 some pressures. He was he was with the most pressures 0:21:16.280 --> 0:21:19.000 last week against the Falcons, you know, and you worry 0:21:19.040 --> 0:21:22.400 about him having to deal with the size of Davis 0:21:22.440 --> 0:21:24.119 and Carter and Williams and those guys. 0:21:25.240 --> 0:21:26.919 Cooper Rush. I was going to say that we know 0:21:27.040 --> 0:21:30.760 Cooper Rush. He's not shown to be a very mobile quarterback. 0:21:30.880 --> 0:21:33.040 So it's not like that's an area of his game 0:21:33.119 --> 0:21:35.320 that you can expect him to get out of the 0:21:35.400 --> 0:21:38.680 pocket and run. That's an area where maybe a tree 0:21:38.760 --> 0:21:41.240 lance you could see him doing those kinds of things. 0:21:41.280 --> 0:21:44.399 But I don't, I don't know. I think I like, 0:21:45.200 --> 0:21:45.640 I think the. 0:21:45.600 --> 0:21:49.120 Ball for Cooper is going to get out. I think 0:21:49.160 --> 0:21:51.200 it's get the snap and throw it. 0:21:51.280 --> 0:21:52.840 I think that's where we're at right now. 0:21:54.600 --> 0:21:54.760 Yeah. 0:21:54.800 --> 0:21:58.679 Where where they Yeah? Where you are this? It looks 0:21:58.680 --> 0:22:01.320 like to me they've got good course. You mentioned Mitchell 0:22:01.359 --> 0:22:03.879 as a rookie. He's a quality corner. We'll see what 0:22:03.920 --> 0:22:07.760 happens with Slay because Slay's been dealing with growing didn't play, 0:22:08.160 --> 0:22:10.080 and then Isaiah Rodgers was playing. 0:22:10.119 --> 0:22:10.560 Last week. 0:22:10.600 --> 0:22:13.399 Isaiah Rodgers did a really fine job filling in the 0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:17.240 nickel Cooper Dejene like I say, they've taken Maddox out 0:22:17.280 --> 0:22:19.720 of the nickel and they put Dougine in. You know, 0:22:19.800 --> 0:22:23.280 he's given up some plays, he's given up some some receptions, 0:22:23.280 --> 0:22:25.840 targets and things like that, but he's playing better than Maddox. 0:22:26.359 --> 0:22:29.520 Where teams have taken event they found ways to get 0:22:29.600 --> 0:22:30.440 guys on. 0:22:30.960 --> 0:22:31.320 CJ. 0:22:31.640 --> 0:22:36.680 Gardner Johnson, the safety. You know, like twelve twelve attempts 0:22:36.680 --> 0:22:40.560 against him, four touchdowns. So you're kind of and I 0:22:40.600 --> 0:22:43.600 was watching these games and watching the explosive plays for 0:22:43.840 --> 0:22:47.320 passing and why every time is number eight kind of 0:22:47.359 --> 0:22:50.840 giving up a play? So how do you scheme? How 0:22:50.880 --> 0:22:53.520 do you get guys? Maybe you get Ferguson. Maybe this 0:22:53.600 --> 0:22:56.680 is something for Cooper Rush. He's thinking like, okay, wait 0:22:56.720 --> 0:22:59.040 a minute, that number eight's covering my number eighty seven. 0:22:59.080 --> 0:23:01.640 Here we go, whoo throw right there. Or maybe maybe 0:23:01.680 --> 0:23:04.160 they tried. They're giving that cover two look to safeties 0:23:04.160 --> 0:23:07.080 and then they walk. They walk Johnson and blanket Ship 0:23:07.119 --> 0:23:09.040 has had his share. The other safety has had his 0:23:09.119 --> 0:23:12.160 share of some issues too. So you know you see 0:23:12.200 --> 0:23:15.480 all of a sudden, Gardner Johnson walks over somebody. Maybe 0:23:15.480 --> 0:23:18.240 that'll trigger you to say, balls got to go there 0:23:18.400 --> 0:23:21.240 balls got to go there. I mean, they say I 0:23:21.280 --> 0:23:22.640 think their corners are pretty good. 0:23:23.040 --> 0:23:23.360 I do. 0:23:23.400 --> 0:23:25.680 I have no I have no issues with the question. 0:23:25.800 --> 0:23:28.360 They've had bad corner play in the past. I think 0:23:28.359 --> 0:23:30.760 they've gotten better at that with the addition of Mitchell 0:23:30.800 --> 0:23:31.399 and de Gene. 0:23:32.160 --> 0:23:34.119 So if you're getting ready for this game, for the 0:23:34.160 --> 0:23:37.960 Cowboys offensive coordinator, you understand the limitations of your offense. Yeah, 0:23:38.000 --> 0:23:40.080 you also understand what they do well and what they 0:23:40.080 --> 0:23:43.040 don't do well. What's your best way to attack this defense? 0:23:44.920 --> 0:23:46.080 Quick game? I do like that. 0:23:46.280 --> 0:23:48.879 I was looking back here on the five games that 0:23:48.960 --> 0:23:51.640 Cooper Rush had to start back in twenty twenty two. 0:23:51.720 --> 0:23:53.879 Is time to throw two point four to three was 0:23:53.880 --> 0:23:57.439 his average time to throw throughout throughout that season. So 0:23:57.480 --> 0:24:00.000 I think that's an opportunity for you know, this offen 0:24:00.240 --> 0:24:01.840 to be able to find some quick game action. You know, 0:24:02.359 --> 0:24:04.440 That's what I feel like they were best at last year. 0:24:04.920 --> 0:24:08.200 It doesn't work, though, if your receivers can't get separation. 0:24:08.920 --> 0:24:12.120 Yeah, yeah, I mean, I'm just asking. It's a great point. 0:24:12.200 --> 0:24:14.800 With what we've seen so far this year, that's been 0:24:14.840 --> 0:24:16.960 a big problem for them. Yeah, if you're trying to 0:24:16.960 --> 0:24:19.199 get the quick game going. You kind of need them to. 0:24:19.400 --> 0:24:21.639 Either they're gonna have to get separation or they're just 0:24:21.640 --> 0:24:23.840 gonna have to be really, really great ball placement one 0:24:23.840 --> 0:24:24.160 of the two. 0:24:24.359 --> 0:24:24.560 Right. 0:24:24.640 --> 0:24:26.120 I'll tell you one thing I would like to see 0:24:26.160 --> 0:24:29.199 in this game is ten touches for Dalvin Cook, not 0:24:29.240 --> 0:24:31.200 only in the receiving game, but also in the run game. 0:24:31.240 --> 0:24:33.199 He's their outside zone guy. They just him what they 0:24:33.200 --> 0:24:36.040 outside zonne stuff. Let him go outside zone. We've seen 0:24:36.040 --> 0:24:37.440 what he can do in the receiving game a couple 0:24:37.440 --> 0:24:39.520 of times in his two games this year. Give him 0:24:39.560 --> 0:24:41.960 some receiving opportunities. It will allow Cooper Rush to have 0:24:42.000 --> 0:24:44.760 a reliable dump down option. And then you hope Jake 0:24:44.760 --> 0:24:46.640 Ferguson can get open as well. These are two guys 0:24:46.640 --> 0:24:48.120 that I think that can get open in a hurry, 0:24:48.160 --> 0:24:50.560 and they're big, they're physical, and they can make some 0:24:50.560 --> 0:24:51.680 things happen in the open field. 0:24:51.680 --> 0:24:52.359 On the same token. 0:24:52.880 --> 0:24:54.760 All right, let's take our final break. We'll come back. 0:24:55.200 --> 0:24:58.640 We'll get to some fan questions. Got some loaded up here. 0:24:58.680 --> 0:25:00.640 You can also call us eight eight eight eight five 0:25:00.760 --> 0:25:04.520 five to two ninety seven again eight eight eight eight five 0:25:04.680 --> 0:25:08.880 five two two nine seven. 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How a y'all doing good? 0:28:05.240 --> 0:28:05.720 Are you good? 0:28:06.160 --> 0:28:09.040 Good? Hey? Brian? You talk a lot about the importance 0:28:09.080 --> 0:28:11.440 of the offensive line coach. And I agree with you 0:28:11.480 --> 0:28:14.520 on that. And it seems like, you know, the problems 0:28:14.520 --> 0:28:17.919 on offense go directly to the offensive line and not 0:28:18.000 --> 0:28:20.520 so much the young guys, but the right side of 0:28:20.560 --> 0:28:24.199 that line that are underperforming. My question to you is 0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:29.679 how Terrence Steele has regressed since his injury. But also 0:28:29.920 --> 0:28:33.359 in conjunction with that they changed offensive line coaches. How 0:28:33.480 --> 0:28:36.520 much of Terrence Steele's problem do you attribute to the 0:28:36.640 --> 0:28:39.520 change from Joe philbin Now to Mike Solari. 0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:42.080 It's Amy, Yeah, thank you for the call. I knew 0:28:42.080 --> 0:28:43.600 where you were going with that one. Uh. 0:28:43.680 --> 0:28:45.800 The you might have to ask Terrence Steele how he 0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:48.480 feels about it, but yeah, to me, I know, Todd 0:28:48.560 --> 0:28:50.920 Archer and I've had this discussion of Bunch Todd Archer 0:28:50.920 --> 0:28:53.720 from ESPN have had this discussion of Bunch. It maybe 0:28:53.960 --> 0:28:56.880 you're your third most important or your second most important 0:28:56.880 --> 0:28:59.920 coach on the staff is your offensive line guy. And yeah, 0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:03.000 there's some guys that seem to thrive. I mean, look 0:29:03.200 --> 0:29:06.000 the look what the Eagles do. They might fire their coordinators, 0:29:06.000 --> 0:29:07.560 but what do they do. They keep their line coach 0:29:07.680 --> 0:29:09.200 because they know they got a pretty good one in 0:29:09.280 --> 0:29:13.000 Jeff Southland. So I kind of feel like that maybe 0:29:13.520 --> 0:29:16.080 that some of these guys. You remember when they we 0:29:16.160 --> 0:29:17.520 went through all these coaches too. 0:29:17.560 --> 0:29:18.280 We had Mark. 0:29:18.120 --> 0:29:21.440 Colombo and Hudson Howick and mean, it was all these guys, 0:29:21.480 --> 0:29:23.840 and then Paul Alexander came in here, and what do 0:29:23.880 --> 0:29:25.880 they do in the middle of the season. They said, no, 0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:28.600 this high hand, low hand stuff. We're not coaching that 0:29:28.640 --> 0:29:31.040 stuff anymore. We're not doing that. We're gonna bring somebody 0:29:31.080 --> 0:29:33.560 else in. So, yeah, I think you would have to 0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:37.280 ask Terrence, but I'm be willing to bet just my 0:29:37.440 --> 0:29:41.320 observation that he misses Joe Philbina, he really really does. 0:29:41.400 --> 0:29:44.120 What worries me about it is whenever it's one thing 0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:46.600 when you see one player on the offensive line that 0:29:46.720 --> 0:29:49.200 maybe seems to not be having a great year, when 0:29:49.240 --> 0:29:52.200 you look across the offensive line and you say, outside 0:29:52.240 --> 0:29:54.640 of Tyler Smith, is there anybody else that you say 0:29:54.680 --> 0:29:57.760 is having a good year, That's when I say that 0:29:57.760 --> 0:30:00.360 feels more like it's across the board. That's where I 0:30:00.400 --> 0:30:02.760 look more at the coach. Again, I think the players 0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:03.960 are the ones that would have to say that, and 0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:05.760 they're obviously not going to say that on record, you'd 0:30:05.760 --> 0:30:07.840 have to talk to them off the record and they'd 0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:10.120 be willing to kind of admit it. But the fact 0:30:10.120 --> 0:30:12.480 of the matter is that's how I look at is 0:30:12.480 --> 0:30:15.080 when I see an across the board issue at a position, 0:30:15.520 --> 0:30:18.120 then my thought is what is the coach doing to 0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:21.080 address this? Is he spending enough time on it? Are 0:30:21.080 --> 0:30:23.680 the are the players understanding what they're being asked to do? 0:30:23.760 --> 0:30:26.520 And are they feeling like they have a chance and 0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:28.680 an ability to be able to do those things? And 0:30:28.720 --> 0:30:30.880 if you're not factoring all that in, then you're not 0:30:30.920 --> 0:30:33.160 coaching them well enough to get the right results. 0:30:33.160 --> 0:30:33.280 Well. 0:30:33.280 --> 0:30:35.320 No, they've had some great line coaches here. You know, 0:30:35.400 --> 0:30:37.440 you can go back and Tony Wise, they're in the 0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:40.200 Super Bowl, Hudson, how you know? And then you know, 0:30:40.600 --> 0:30:43.080 one of my favorite one was Bill Callahan running game Moses. 0:30:43.200 --> 0:30:43.680 Yeah, you know. 0:30:43.800 --> 0:30:46.320 I mean they've had some They've had some really some 0:30:46.440 --> 0:30:47.920 quality line coaches. 0:30:47.520 --> 0:30:49.160 Here, and I think Joe Filber's right there with. 0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:51.480 Joe Philbin, you know. And for all the things that 0:30:51.560 --> 0:30:54.000 we kind of gave, I know, me personally giving Joe 0:30:54.000 --> 0:30:56.440 Philbin a lot of grief for actually kind of pulled 0:30:56.440 --> 0:30:58.640 through pretty well. I think that I think that the 0:30:58.840 --> 0:31:01.560 right tackle really miss as the coach. I think father 0:31:01.640 --> 0:31:04.240 time's getting your right guard. I think that's what happened. 0:31:04.280 --> 0:31:05.479 I think that would happen no matter what. 0:31:06.600 --> 0:31:07.480 You know, he he. 0:31:07.480 --> 0:31:10.000 Was he was kind of feeling his body like he 0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:11.480 you know, he was talking about how this might be 0:31:11.520 --> 0:31:13.800 the last campaign kind of thing. You know, he's kind 0:31:13.800 --> 0:31:16.960 of hitting around, you know that maybe this was last year. 0:31:17.040 --> 0:31:19.840 Yeah, and and and so, you know, he's he's. 0:31:19.520 --> 0:31:22.239 One of those guys that kind of understands himself. I 0:31:22.320 --> 0:31:25.840 just think that the center and the left tackle are young, 0:31:25.920 --> 0:31:26.520 young guys. 0:31:27.000 --> 0:31:27.480 I don't know. 0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:31.960 Necessarily if Joe Philman wanted wanted Tyler Smith. You know, 0:31:32.080 --> 0:31:34.160 I think there was some some back and forth between 0:31:34.160 --> 0:31:35.120 the scouts. 0:31:34.680 --> 0:31:36.480 And men when they were originally drafted. 0:31:36.560 --> 0:31:39.200 Originally drafted him, but you know, maybe his opinion changed 0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:42.200 after he watched him play. But but I know the 0:31:42.320 --> 0:31:46.880 right tackle thrived with Joe Filman here, he really did. 0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:50.280 All right, let's let's take a actually that Michael Smith. 0:31:50.320 --> 0:31:51.840 Actually I'm gonna give him a shout out because he 0:31:51.920 --> 0:31:54.440 actually asked the exact same question. Get Twitter to give 0:31:54.480 --> 0:31:56.000 him a quick shout on that. When we went a 0:31:56.080 --> 0:31:59.959 question from Bjesh Patel. He says, with Dax torn hamstring, 0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:03.280 why not start Trey Lance to see his actual ability 0:32:03.320 --> 0:32:05.640 with starters? What we saw in the preseason obviously he 0:32:05.720 --> 0:32:09.680 was playing with backups. Do you think that's an interesting 0:32:09.680 --> 0:32:11.360 way to look at it, at least from the standpoint 0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:13.480 of if you want to see him with real starting 0:32:13.520 --> 0:32:16.800 caliber players on the field, this is an opportunity to 0:32:16.800 --> 0:32:17.000 do it. 0:32:17.000 --> 0:32:18.680 I think there's a couple of things that factor into that. 0:32:18.760 --> 0:32:20.959 A being Cooper Rush has done nothing to deserve not 0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:23.280 being the starter in this case. And you know, as 0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:27.280 a backup quarterback, you don't hope anyone aboves you gets injured. 0:32:27.640 --> 0:32:29.480 Him and Dack of a great relationship, but you do 0:32:29.560 --> 0:32:32.000 wait on your opportunity, and when you do have your opportunity, 0:32:32.040 --> 0:32:33.520 you want to be able to strike. And Cooper Rush 0:32:33.560 --> 0:32:36.120 has only proven and his two big opportunities in Dallas 0:32:36.120 --> 0:32:37.880 that he can strike five and one as a starter. 0:32:37.960 --> 0:32:40.160 So I think that's part of it also too, being 0:32:40.240 --> 0:32:42.240 that there's a lot of people in this building that 0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:44.240 still feel like this season where they can make the 0:32:44.240 --> 0:32:47.320 playoffs eat right, and Cooper Rush gives them the best 0:32:47.400 --> 0:32:50.120 chance of doing that. Now that being said, I would 0:32:50.120 --> 0:32:51.840 be shocked. If you don't see Trey Lance over the 0:32:51.840 --> 0:32:54.480 course of the next few weeks, ye'd maybe not this week. 0:32:54.840 --> 0:32:56.480 As the week goes on, I think it's going to 0:32:56.520 --> 0:32:58.160 be more Cooper. They want to get Cooper ingrained in 0:32:58.200 --> 0:33:01.000 the offense, They want to get him going. Thinks, as 0:33:01.000 --> 0:33:03.360 soon as you see Cooper get comfortable, you'll see Trey 0:33:03.400 --> 0:33:04.160 start to get worked in. 0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:07.080 Yeah, let this thing get to three and eight or something, 0:33:07.080 --> 0:33:09.400 three and nine, something like that, and then all of 0:33:09.440 --> 0:33:11.240 a sudden, December is all about. 0:33:11.680 --> 0:33:13.000 That's the self decide. 0:33:13.040 --> 0:33:15.840 You know, fans, fans have moved on, Fans have you know, 0:33:16.320 --> 0:33:18.280 the people in that building across the way from us 0:33:18.320 --> 0:33:21.000 still believe now the fan and that's cool, and the fans, 0:33:21.040 --> 0:33:24.120 you know, you're thinking I met personally, I'm thinking I'd 0:33:24.160 --> 0:33:27.760 like to see Cooper rush assuming uh, Trey Lance, just 0:33:27.800 --> 0:33:31.640 because I'm curious. I'm curious, did San Francisco miss this guy? 0:33:31.760 --> 0:33:34.760 And and is there something that these coaches can get 0:33:34.840 --> 0:33:38.720 out of him that could be and also the compensatory pick, 0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:41.760 you know something, and maybe it turns into as well 0:33:41.800 --> 0:33:44.600 that he plays well enough, but he still wants to 0:33:44.600 --> 0:33:46.360 be here, you know, kind of thing. And maybe you 0:33:46.440 --> 0:33:49.240 got your idea about your your backup guy that you 0:33:49.280 --> 0:33:51.680 feel a little bit better about about that. 0:33:51.560 --> 0:33:53.400 Such Cooper could also be your compensatory. 0:33:53.840 --> 0:33:54.760 Yeah, so I. 0:33:54.720 --> 0:33:57.360 Think that teams would look I kind of feel like 0:33:57.440 --> 0:34:00.440 that that Cooper Rush. And everybody likes to talk about 0:34:00.440 --> 0:34:02.880 the floor of the ceiling thing which I don't even understand, 0:34:03.320 --> 0:34:05.360 but the ceiling right here, Yeah, that's what I'm saying, 0:34:05.440 --> 0:34:07.600 the ceiling for one guy. I feel like Cooper Rush 0:34:07.680 --> 0:34:10.200 is kind of at a ceiling. Maybe with Trey Lance, 0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:12.839 that somebody would say, hey, young guy, we could take him, 0:34:12.840 --> 0:34:15.040 we can do stuff with. Yeah, that's why I think 0:34:15.200 --> 0:34:17.320 maybe he would get a better opportunity. 0:34:17.440 --> 0:34:19.040 I look at some of these teams though, that are 0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:21.680 just a system quarterback away, and I don't want to 0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:23.319 throw out any team names out there, but there are 0:34:23.360 --> 0:34:24.799 a couple of team names out there that I think 0:34:24.800 --> 0:34:26.040 could work with a guy like Cooper's. 0:34:26.040 --> 0:34:26.640 That's the only reason. 0:34:26.960 --> 0:34:31.120 But see, even though I agree one percent with Cooper 0:34:31.200 --> 0:34:36.080 Rush being the starter during Dak's absence, I do think, like, 0:34:36.360 --> 0:34:41.480 what what prevents the Cowboys from working trade Lance in 0:34:41.480 --> 0:34:45.399 in certain nothing place not be creative? Take this opportunity 0:34:45.440 --> 0:34:49.239 to use trade Lan's ability to run and has his 0:34:49.440 --> 0:34:53.640 type of mobility to design certain specific plays for him, 0:34:53.920 --> 0:34:56.279 especially because you don't have a running game or you're 0:34:56.320 --> 0:34:59.480 hoping to kind of create some running game here with 0:34:59.520 --> 0:35:01.600 the running now, but uh. 0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:03.480 I, why not? 0:35:03.800 --> 0:35:06.080 Why not do it where your main guy and is 0:35:06.120 --> 0:35:09.320 still Cooper rush? But you just throw him in there situations. 0:35:09.560 --> 0:35:11.680 Just make sure you alert him so there's not twelve 0:35:11.719 --> 0:35:15.600 guys in the hub that kind of thing. That wait, Mike, Yeah, 0:35:15.640 --> 0:35:17.719 when if you see him coming on, Cooper, you need 0:35:17.760 --> 0:35:18.879 to go to the side. 0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:20.040 You know what, I will throw this out though. 0:35:20.200 --> 0:35:22.520 I heard Babel Offenburg this morning. He was on the 0:35:22.520 --> 0:35:26.319 fan with Sean and RJ and Bobby, and I thought 0:35:26.360 --> 0:35:28.840 he actually made an interesting point from the perspective of 0:35:28.840 --> 0:35:31.560 a quarterback. He said, you know, when when you are 0:35:31.640 --> 0:35:36.120 a backup quarterback, if you get called into action and 0:35:36.160 --> 0:35:39.560 it's week one, two three of the NFL season, it's 0:35:39.600 --> 0:35:41.880 probably a little bit easier. Not probably, he said, it 0:35:41.960 --> 0:35:44.279 is a little bit easier because you're not that far 0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:47.239 and move from actually getting reps back during training camp. 0:35:47.640 --> 0:35:48.840 The farther you go into. 0:35:48.640 --> 0:35:51.799 A season, those are weeks when essentially you have not 0:35:51.920 --> 0:35:55.160 played football. You may run scout team, but scout team 0:35:55.200 --> 0:35:58.280 is not developing your skills. It's not developing your understanding 0:35:58.280 --> 0:36:00.600 of the offense. You literally are get a card and 0:36:00.640 --> 0:36:02.840 saying on this play, throw over here, and so you 0:36:02.920 --> 0:36:04.640 basically just go through the mechanics of it. 0:36:05.200 --> 0:36:06.160 You're not developing. 0:36:06.560 --> 0:36:08.560 And so he said, you know, when you start thinking 0:36:08.560 --> 0:36:10.719 about it from the standpoint of working in packages for 0:36:10.760 --> 0:36:14.640 Trey Lance, the challenge with that is right now Dallas 0:36:14.719 --> 0:36:19.640 is having to reacclimate their backup quarterback to playing football. 0:36:20.000 --> 0:36:21.400 So all those reps that he's. 0:36:21.280 --> 0:36:24.239 Getting in practice, those are critical, Like he needs those 0:36:24.239 --> 0:36:26.560 reps in order to get back up to speed. And 0:36:26.680 --> 0:36:28.879 do you want to take five of those reps, ten 0:36:28.920 --> 0:36:30.840 of those reps during practice when you really need to 0:36:30.840 --> 0:36:33.040 get him up to speed to actually give those to 0:36:33.080 --> 0:36:35.160 Trey Lance so Trey Lance can be prepared to come 0:36:35.160 --> 0:36:37.560 in for four or five maybe reps during the game. 0:36:37.640 --> 0:36:38.960 I just thought it was an interesting because this is 0:36:38.960 --> 0:36:39.800 from a formal quarterback. 0:36:39.920 --> 0:36:42.480 Yeah, this is where I disagree with with, Babe. Yeah, 0:36:42.520 --> 0:36:45.239 and I disagree with you got twenty seven coaches on 0:36:45.239 --> 0:36:48.279 this staff last year. I'm sure they had you know, 0:36:48.480 --> 0:36:51.720 the smart team would have had practice for Trey Lance. 0:36:51.800 --> 0:36:53.239 After practice, they. 0:36:53.160 --> 0:36:56.239 Would have taken all the scout team excuse be, all 0:36:56.280 --> 0:36:59.240 the practice squad, wide receivers and running back on whoever 0:36:59.400 --> 0:37:01.560 was on that and they would have had another thirty 0:37:01.600 --> 0:37:02.640 minute practice for him. 0:37:02.680 --> 0:37:05.080 They did that in pregame last year. Every game they 0:37:05.760 --> 0:37:07.560 were able to travel with that QB three, So about 0:37:07.640 --> 0:37:09.600 three four hours before games they were able to work. 0:37:09.640 --> 0:37:11.360 That's what I'm saying. You know that. 0:37:11.360 --> 0:37:14.280 That to me is yeah, it's not actual game reps, 0:37:14.320 --> 0:37:15.880 but it's you're right. 0:37:16.080 --> 0:37:16.600 He's right. 0:37:16.640 --> 0:37:19.480 In practice you have nine you have nine plays. You know, 0:37:19.600 --> 0:37:22.640 every the offense has nine plays, defense has nine plays. 0:37:22.719 --> 0:37:24.680 And then you go to the next period. You know, 0:37:25.040 --> 0:37:28.440 backup quarterback might get two reps, three reps, so you 0:37:28.480 --> 0:37:30.919 know Dak gets six, Cooper Rush gets three. 0:37:31.160 --> 0:37:32.399 Next drill here we go. 0:37:33.080 --> 0:37:37.280 So to me, it's with all these coaches on staff 0:37:37.840 --> 0:37:41.279 have a practice for him after the practice. Hey, you know, 0:37:41.600 --> 0:37:44.240 like you say, wide receiver guys, stay out, we're throwing 0:37:44.239 --> 0:37:46.520 the ball and put him through all that. Yeah, okay, 0:37:46.680 --> 0:37:49.359 down in distance situations, you want to make a fake 0:37:49.440 --> 0:37:51.480 rush on him, make fake rush, make him have to 0:37:51.520 --> 0:37:54.560 move around, do stuff with him, challenge him. Hey, give 0:37:54.600 --> 0:37:55.520 him different looks. 0:37:55.920 --> 0:37:56.120 You know. 0:37:56.239 --> 0:37:57.280 That's that's coaching. 0:37:57.480 --> 0:38:01.399 That's that's making sure that like you don't have to like, oh, hey, 0:38:01.440 --> 0:38:04.040 we're all those notes we had in the preseason what 0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:08.240 we did with with Trey Lance. No, you've been working 0:38:08.239 --> 0:38:10.640 on it, you know, week two, week three, week four, 0:38:10.680 --> 0:38:13.399 You've been doing these things and kind of finding out 0:38:13.400 --> 0:38:15.399 what he's good at and what he's not good at. 0:38:16.200 --> 0:38:17.800 And I read zone stuff seems. 0:38:17.640 --> 0:38:20.520 I am probably with like the reps and all of that. 0:38:20.600 --> 0:38:24.319 Obviously that matters who you're getting what team you're getting 0:38:24.360 --> 0:38:28.319 those reps with. But at the same time, in my mentality, 0:38:28.960 --> 0:38:31.800 even if you're a backup or a backup of a backup, 0:38:32.160 --> 0:38:35.279 you should always be ready regardless. You know, that's your 0:38:35.400 --> 0:38:37.640 job to be ready when the time is called. Your 0:38:37.719 --> 0:38:40.359 job is not to let may warm up for two 0:38:40.400 --> 0:38:43.200 weeks and maybe then I'll be ready. It's for whenever 0:38:43.320 --> 0:38:46.759 emergency happens, you're ready to go. I mean, yes, but 0:38:46.920 --> 0:38:49.120 I get what you're saying and what baby is saying 0:38:49.200 --> 0:38:51.799 and all that. It makes one hundred percent sense. But 0:38:51.880 --> 0:38:53.640 at the same time, I don't think it should be 0:38:53.680 --> 0:38:57.120 an excuse as to not plug him in and try 0:38:57.160 --> 0:38:58.200 to see some of him too. 0:38:58.440 --> 0:39:02.480 Yeah, if it means doing read option stuff, either seeing 0:39:02.480 --> 0:39:04.919 if the end's gonna crash and him go or him 0:39:04.960 --> 0:39:07.480 hand the ball and do a fake, that's not I 0:39:07.520 --> 0:39:11.160 mean reading defenses and stuff of throwing the football. Okay, 0:39:11.200 --> 0:39:11.640 I get that. 0:39:11.719 --> 0:39:14.560 But he's sitting in meetings, he's watching practice. He's like, 0:39:15.040 --> 0:39:16.920 I'd make that throw. I'd throw it over there. 0:39:16.960 --> 0:39:19.160 I mean he's watching and he's hearing the mistakes that 0:39:19.280 --> 0:39:22.080 Dak's making. So he's like like, okay, but you know, 0:39:22.160 --> 0:39:25.360 like I say, I just I just sometimes it drives 0:39:25.400 --> 0:39:27.840 me nuts when they talk about it's not like college 0:39:27.880 --> 0:39:29.640 football where these kids have to go to class. 0:39:30.160 --> 0:39:31.239 You have the whole job. 0:39:31.320 --> 0:39:33.800 Yeah, this is your job, you know, make sure that 0:39:34.560 --> 0:39:37.800 all your quarterbacks have are ready to play. 0:39:38.120 --> 0:39:40.200 Make sure they're all ready to play real quick. 0:39:40.239 --> 0:39:42.120 Before we end the show, what are we hearing about 0:39:42.120 --> 0:39:44.880 at this point them being able to work in Jonathan Mingo? 0:39:45.520 --> 0:39:47.160 Is there a chance he plays this week or is 0:39:47.200 --> 0:39:49.520 this something he's gotten here too late? Really at this point, 0:39:49.520 --> 0:39:51.600 he's just trying to get acclimated and maybe by next 0:39:51.600 --> 0:39:52.440 week you have him ready. 0:39:52.560 --> 0:39:54.440 Yeah, it was a little bit later than expected. I 0:39:54.480 --> 0:39:57.120 think for us as far as Mingo not being at 0:39:57.160 --> 0:40:00.320 practice yesterday, but expectation is that he he is in 0:40:00.400 --> 0:40:00.760 the building. 0:40:00.800 --> 0:40:01.880 That is as. 0:40:01.719 --> 0:40:04.279 Far as expectation goes practice, and they'll kind of see 0:40:04.320 --> 0:40:06.640 on Saturday if he'll be ready to go. But if 0:40:06.640 --> 0:40:08.520 he can't go, then that that's an easy inactive to 0:40:08.800 --> 0:40:09.319 figure out. 0:40:09.640 --> 0:40:12.799 Yeah, my guess he's probably going to be inactive this 0:40:12.840 --> 0:40:15.920 week and we'll see what happens next week against against 0:40:15.960 --> 0:40:16.560 the Texans. 0:40:16.640 --> 0:40:18.560 Right, Texans Day and some Monday night games, you get 0:40:18.600 --> 0:40:21.040 an extra day, extra day. Yeah, all right, appreciate you 0:40:21.040 --> 0:40:23.879 guys joining us. We will be back tomorrow. We'll wrap 0:40:23.920 --> 0:40:26.240 this thing up. Get you guys ready for Cowboys Eagles 0:40:26.239 --> 0:40:28.760 still then for Nick Harris and Brian brought us Amber Garcia. 0:40:28.760 --> 0:40:30.480 I'm Derek Eagleton. 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