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Speaker 4: All right, Uh, let's go to let's go to some
Speaker 4: injury updates.
Speaker 2: We've got several guys.
Speaker 4: That that misspracticed yesterday. Uh drawn Bland obviously he's been out.
Speaker 4: Eric Kendricks with a shoulder, Zach Martin with a shoulder,
Speaker 4: one Yea Thomas with a concussion, and Nick Vigil with
Speaker 4: a foot.
Speaker 2: What are we hearing about these folks? That did not
Speaker 2: practice yesterday.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'll go from bottom to the top one. Yay,
Speaker 7: Thomas definitely avoided a more serious injury. But yeah, just
Speaker 7: a concussion. They're gonna be smart with him throughout the
Speaker 7: week and try to get him through protocols.
Speaker 4: But not to make concussion seem small. Absolutely, like just
Speaker 4: a concussion. Not to make it seem ye, not to
Speaker 4: make it.
Speaker 7: Seems small at all. Absolutely, but it was. It was
Speaker 7: initially feared to be a little bit worse. But yeah, concussion.
Speaker 7: They're gonna be smart about the protocols and everything this week,
Speaker 7: but uh, they feel confident about where he's progressed day
Speaker 7: by day. We'll we'll see more today or tomorrow if
Speaker 7: he gets back on the field. Obviously, Dak did not
Speaker 7: practice with a hamstring. We've we've talked about that one.
Speaker 7: Zach Martin with a shoulder. It looks more so like
Speaker 7: a like a veteran rest day at the end of
Speaker 7: the day. But no, no concerns as of yet about
Speaker 7: his availability going into the week. Likewise, with Eric Kendricks,
Speaker 7: you know these Wednesday practices, they they tend to be
Speaker 7: a little bit on the lighter side. So any any
Speaker 7: of these guys that have some nicks and bangs, they
Speaker 7: they they will rest them on Wednesday, especially if they're
Speaker 7: a veteran like a Kendricks or a Martin. And then
Speaker 7: Deron Bland did not practice with the foot. It's starting
Speaker 7: to sound more and more like he won't be able
Speaker 7: to go once again this week. And then Trayvon limited
Speaker 7: with the cav Tyler Guiden limited with a neck and shoulder.
Speaker 7: He had kind of tweaked his neck in that game
Speaker 7: against Atlanta. You could kind of see him rolling it
Speaker 7: on the broadcast as well. Uh So maybe something to
Speaker 7: keep an eye on throughout the week. But he was
Speaker 7: limited yesterday, So good start for him.
Speaker 4: With someone like Deron Bland, And obviously there was there
Speaker 4: was optimism a few weeks ago that he would be
Speaker 4: able to return. Uh he started practicing, had a couple
Speaker 4: of days, and then had the setback.
Speaker 2: Yeah, does it get to a.
Speaker 4: Point where they have to start considering maybe shutting him
Speaker 4: down for the year just because if it's not getting better,
Speaker 4: do you want to risk anything? Especially if things keep
Speaker 4: going the way they're going and they're they're not winning
Speaker 4: and you've lost Dak for an extended period of time
Speaker 4: like at what point or is there a point where
Speaker 4: you do that or is he so young in his
Speaker 4: career where it's like whatever amount of game action he
Speaker 4: can get, even if you're a week, you know, seventeen
Speaker 4: in the season, he needs that work.
Speaker 7: I think it's a situation for Deron personally. I mean,
Speaker 7: he's he's going to be negotiating a contract extension this offseason,
Speaker 7: so to get back on the field and to show
Speaker 7: that he was what he was. Yeah, there's a lot
Speaker 7: of them. There's a lot of them. It's not just
Speaker 7: Michael Parsons, but Deron Bland negotiating a contract over the offseason.
Speaker 7: It'd be important for him to get back on the
Speaker 7: field in some sort of capacity this year, just to
Speaker 7: show that he still has the same ability.
Speaker 2: He just got here. It's already be looking at Nick
Speaker 2: Ferguson all these guys.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, no, it's I think to me, just maybe
Speaker 5: just to try and help the defense a little bit,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Just you know, with some
Speaker 5: of the it's you know, Carson getting work I think
Speaker 5: is good. You know, I mean, if things start to
Speaker 5: go really, really south, and maybe you've already believed that
Speaker 5: they're really really south. I know, to them, they're they're thinking, hey,
Speaker 5: we could still find ways to win games, we could
Speaker 5: still fight a way back, you know, And but it's
Speaker 5: been tough. It's been tough. It's been tough on Bland.
Speaker 5: And you know, I was so encouraged by some of
Speaker 5: the news I was getting, and then the setback. And
Speaker 5: then once the setback happened, I didn't even ask anymore.
Speaker 5: I didn't even want to know. I didn't want to
Speaker 5: know why, you know, I just like I figured there
Speaker 5: was something that happened. I mean, I know Britt Brown
Speaker 5: and those guys that work extremely hard to get these
Speaker 5: guys back on the field. It's got to be a
Speaker 5: level of frustration by the you know, the medical staff
Speaker 5: and then also the player, you know, because they're going
Speaker 5: through a tough situation right now. I mean, they could
Speaker 5: they could use Micah Parsons, and they could use Bland,
Speaker 5: and they could use you know, a tank, and they
Speaker 5: could use all these guys to maybe dig their way
Speaker 5: out of this thing. And it's just not looking like
Speaker 5: that's going to be the case right now.
Speaker 6: What's crazy. I mean, he's been out this whole time,
Speaker 6: the whole time, and even with Micah Parsons when he
Speaker 6: talked to the media, he did mention how even with
Speaker 6: the breathing and just getting back into form, and Micah,
Speaker 6: he's been he played a few weeks to begin with,
Speaker 6: so different injuries and situations there. But you know, it's
Speaker 6: hard getting back into form when you've been out so long.
Speaker 6: And just to make reference of what I just said, Mike,
Speaker 6: I mentioned of just obviously he's going to be out
Speaker 6: there when he feels like he can fully go. He
Speaker 6: doesn't want to take just a few reps. He wants
Speaker 6: to go one hundred percent. But he mentioned how it's
Speaker 6: been kind of difficult with the breathing and just running
Speaker 6: around and doing all that that you feel the difference
Speaker 6: that your body is just you haven't been doing the
Speaker 6: same type of uh practice and that intensity and all that.
Speaker 6: So I would imagine it's the same scenario for a
Speaker 6: guy like darn Blend who's been out all season, hasn't
Speaker 6: been out there and it takes a while to to
Speaker 6: get going. And the least that you want to do,
Speaker 6: and of course they're not going to put him out
Speaker 6: there if he's not ready, but the least you want
Speaker 6: to do is make the or create some other injury
Speaker 6: or make it worse, because we know mentally that's another
Speaker 6: thing that you got to deal with. So depending on
Speaker 6: where the Cowboys are at, and regardless of him needing
Speaker 6: a contract, I do think that what he did last
Speaker 6: year was amazing and he broke wrecords and that's good
Speaker 6: enough for anyone to want to offer him or extend
Speaker 6: him the contract. But I like to seeing these younger
Speaker 6: players because you're gonna you're still gonna have to rely
Speaker 6: on a lot of these young talent, these young guys
Speaker 6: next year as well.
Speaker 5: That's the one that's kind of the good and the
Speaker 5: bad of what's happening right now for your team is, yeah,
Speaker 5: a lot of young guys are playing. The bad thing
Speaker 5: about it is you're losing football games.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I think about it as a lot of young guys
Speaker 7: are playing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And so you got to think about a lot
Speaker 5: of young guys playing, and you know, that's the unfortunate
Speaker 5: thing about you know. I always like to see guys
Speaker 5: get opportunity, the young guys, But at what price?
Speaker 3: You know, what you know is our you know, is
Speaker 3: our season going to continue to go south?
Speaker 6: I mean, if we'll still have a chance, I definitely
Speaker 6: want their own bland to come back.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I think there's some questions about doc you
Speaker 5: know where that situation is, you know, and you know.
Speaker 4: Force we're hearing doesn't that mean doesn't sound good? You
Speaker 4: start hearing that that the muscles turned off, the bone
Speaker 4: off the bone like, that doesn't sound good.
Speaker 5: No, And then you know there's two options there. There's
Speaker 5: just letting it heal and then there's surgery, you know,
Speaker 5: and if you take surgery route, and then you're done
Speaker 5: for the year kind of things.
Speaker 3: So you know, they've.
Speaker 5: They've just have not caught any type of break this
Speaker 5: year when it comes to, uh, the you know, the
Speaker 5: injury front at.
Speaker 4: All, and the fact of the matters when you start
Speaker 4: talking about the defense specifically, if you want to talk
Speaker 4: about Cooper Rush and his ability to win games, especially
Speaker 4: in the in the space of time when they want
Speaker 4: they need that defense, Like you go back to that
Speaker 4: that year when they were when they did win those
Speaker 4: games a Cooper Rush, those four wins the defense all
Speaker 4: their opponents to seventeen, sixteen, ten, and ten. This defense
Speaker 4: isn't doing that right now, not right now. And so
Speaker 4: if you're going to get to that level, if you
Speaker 4: have any chance of getting to that level, you're probably
Speaker 4: gonna need some of these veterans that you've lost injury
Speaker 4: back on your active roster.
Speaker 2: And playing on game day in order for you to
Speaker 2: be able to do that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, let's take our oh real quick. We
Speaker 4: do need to talk about a couple of the limited guys.
Speaker 4: Michael Parsons back in a limited way. Tyler Guiden was
Speaker 4: limited with neck and shoulder injury. Trayvon's still nursing that
Speaker 4: calf a little bit, but everything I would assume is
Speaker 4: still looking like he's available to play. And then obviously CD,
Speaker 4: who Jerriott addressed, has the shoulder injury, he was limited
Speaker 4: as well. Let's talk specifically about Michael Parsons. What are
Speaker 4: we hearing there?
Speaker 7: Yeah, they're taking a day by day with Micah, but
Speaker 7: there's a lot of optimism that he's going to go
Speaker 7: on Sunday. He would talk to the media yesterday and
Speaker 7: he said he feels like he has a high chance
Speaker 7: of playing. He was talking like he was going to
Speaker 7: place to already talking about defending Saquon, So in his mind,
Speaker 7: he is going to be available for this game, but
Speaker 7: it's going to be very day by day. I want
Speaker 7: to get him in a full practice before the end
Speaker 7: of the week. I know that's typically the goal for
Speaker 7: these guys that are coming back from an extensive absence.
Speaker 7: And then, like Ambar said and like Mica said yesterday,
Speaker 7: as far as him getting his wind back under him
Speaker 7: and getting back to game shape, that'll be big as
Speaker 7: well and determining how he goes There was also a
Speaker 7: couple of Eagles injuries that I thought were notable if
Speaker 7: you wanted me to point on. DeVante Smith did not
Speaker 7: practice yesterday with a hamstring and then Nolan Smith, are
Speaker 7: outside linebacker, did not practice with a groin. Aj Brown
Speaker 7: left the game against Jacksonville with akne issue, but he
Speaker 7: got back on the field yesterday he was limited. And
Speaker 7: then Jalen Hurts was limited yesterday, but they attributed that
Speaker 7: to rest.
Speaker 3: And Dallas Scott Yeah full full.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was another one. Yeah, yeah, that popped out
Speaker 2: to me.
Speaker 3: Of course he saw he saw the tape. And then
Speaker 3: playing against George.
Speaker 2: Kettle, Yeah, they were like, oh, I'm good, Yeah, they
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Speaker 3: Wait wait, they don't cover tight ends. Okay, let's go.
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Speaker 4: Let's talk about the Philadelphia defense right now. They are
Speaker 4: ranked number two defense in the NFL, their number five
Speaker 4: in passing, number five and rushing. That seems pretty zotting.
Speaker 4: If you had to say which one they're better at?
Speaker 4: Which one would you say they're better at? Brian pass
Speaker 4: for defensive rush defense.
Speaker 3: Dick, you got a fun on that one. I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm saying that pass the buck, but I'm just interested.
Speaker 7: I lean rush defense, yeah, because that they have a
Speaker 7: little bit more experience there, whereas their pass defense has
Speaker 7: had to kind of come together with the young guys
Speaker 7: that they have in the room, but it's still a
Speaker 7: solid part of their d I have to give them
Speaker 7: credit for how they approached the draft this last year.
Speaker 7: They went out and got two of the better defensive backs.
Speaker 7: They got my favorite corner in the entire class, Mitchell Mitchell,
Speaker 7: and then got Cooper de Gene as well, and he's
Speaker 7: been doing a lot of different various roles for them.
Speaker 7: So they they've done such a good job revamping that
Speaker 7: secondary and so the pass defense is right up to
Speaker 7: par with the rush defense. But I leave rush defense
Speaker 7: only because they've they've had that over the course of us.
Speaker 5: You know, it's funny when you watch teams and I was,
Speaker 5: I went back and the great thing about the next
Speaker 5: gen stuff and you can take the film and make it,
Speaker 5: give me the explosive runs. I want to see how
Speaker 5: people are doing it. And it was to me the
Speaker 5: ball was going on the edges. You know a lot
Speaker 5: of the big the lot of the big runs were
Speaker 5: and it wasn't just okay, shotgun handoff edge run. It
Speaker 5: was under center edge run, shotgun edge run. You know,
Speaker 5: they've had a little bit if you if you look
Speaker 5: at this and I and I was just like, okay,
Speaker 5: there's there's something. There's a rhyme or reason for this.
Speaker 5: And if you talk about Sweat, Josh Sweat the one
Speaker 5: of the edges or he's released as an outside linebacker
Speaker 5: beating you talk about him, and then you also talk
Speaker 5: about Bryce Huff who they got from the Jets, and
Speaker 5: I'm like, Okay, something's going on here. And I and again,
Speaker 5: this is where you can go have fun with some metrics.
Speaker 5: If you want to really look at this as you're
Speaker 5: seeing on tape when opponents have been averaging five point
Speaker 5: three yards of carry when they've been on the field,
Speaker 5: when they're.
Speaker 2: Off, when those two players on the field.
Speaker 5: Yeah, when those two players are on the field, five
Speaker 5: point three a carry, when those two were off three
Speaker 5: point six.
Speaker 3: Huh fascinating.
Speaker 5: You know, now, Brandon Graham is that. Brandon Graham is
Speaker 5: probably their best. When you start to talk about run edge,
Speaker 5: you know, veteran savvy, I'm gonna grab you, throw you.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm a kind of stshysic.
Speaker 5: I'm a stocky, you know, kind of a guy that's
Speaker 5: played a million years kind of a guy. He's better
Speaker 5: at it. And they've they've had some mistackles along with
Speaker 5: But I was just watching because I'm like, okay, does
Speaker 5: anybody run the ball on these guys? And there's you know, Atlanta,
Speaker 5: but we saw Atlanta firsthand. We understand how Atlanta runs.
Speaker 5: You know, they zone you and then they've got those
Speaker 5: backs at make. But there were other Green Bay, there
Speaker 5: were some teams that I'm not saying Dallas can run
Speaker 5: the ball, but it gave me a little hope. They
Speaker 5: they're inside are hard to move, you know. Jordan Davis
Speaker 5: and Jalen Carter and those guys. Those are big guys.
Speaker 5: Milton Williams, those are big guys. You know it's hard,
Speaker 5: but man, it just seemed like to me, huff and sweat.
Speaker 3: Up the field, up the field, up the field, up
Speaker 3: the field kind of guys.
Speaker 5: Take them out of that, you know, take them off.
Speaker 5: They play better run defense, so maybe maybe take a
Speaker 5: little advantage. But we talk about Dallas all the time,
Speaker 5: at no point of attack blocking with a tight end.
Speaker 5: You know, Hunter Lipkey, how often do you see that?
Speaker 3: You know them?
Speaker 5: I think if Dallas is gonna have some success, it's
Speaker 5: gonna have to come off the tackles if they're going
Speaker 5: to run the football in this game.
Speaker 4: You know, it's interesting that I noted about their run game,
Speaker 4: the run defense. They although they're fifth in rushing defense.
Speaker 2: Which is the total amount of yards when you.
Speaker 4: Start breaking it down, they're actually giving up four point
Speaker 4: four yards per time. Yeah. But here's the interesting thing.
Speaker 4: Teams don't run against them. The number of attempt at
Speaker 4: runs yeah from opponents is like the fish lowest amount
Speaker 4: in the NFL. Teams just don't run. Do you know
Speaker 4: why teams aren't trying to take Avat how.
Speaker 3: About this there.
Speaker 5: I think they're eighth in the eighth when it comes
Speaker 5: to the least amount of drop back passes. I just
Speaker 5: don't think teams have run a lot of plays against them,
Speaker 5: got it? You know It's like I mean, like you say,
Speaker 5: you know, doubt Dallas. It's it's just so funny when
Speaker 5: you start Dallas leads the league and not getting dropped
Speaker 5: back passes.
Speaker 3: Well, you know why that is because people run the
Speaker 3: damn ball.
Speaker 5: You know, it's rushing attempts, nobody, nobody's throwing the ball
Speaker 5: against out. But you had two games there where the
Speaker 5: Saints and the Ravens through the ball less than twenty
Speaker 5: times in two games. But you're not Philadelphia, not getting
Speaker 5: a lot of drop back passes against them, not getting
Speaker 5: a lot of runs against them. So maybe it's it's,
Speaker 5: you know, some offensive stuff that's going on for them,
Speaker 5: kind of you know, keeping things together there. I'll say
Speaker 5: this though about the Eagles, and they've had some success
Speaker 5: in the last four weeks, and I and I and
Speaker 5: I'm but they have faced the last four weeks offensively. Cleveland, Giants,
Speaker 5: Cincinnati and Jacksonville. All those teams are with the exception
Speaker 5: of Cincinnati seventeen in below. When it comes to offense
Speaker 5: and you start about Cleveland is damn last, Jacksonville is
Speaker 5: damn near to the bottom. I think their twenty second
Speaker 5: the Giants are down there at the bottom. They face
Speaker 5: some you know, now, hey, you play your schedule. Yeah,
Speaker 5: you play your schedule, and they've got talented players. But
Speaker 5: sometimes you catch a run where all of a sudden,
Speaker 5: you're playing against some really good offenses and it's putting
Speaker 5: in harm's way and you're giving up a lot that way.
Speaker 5: I think Philadelphia's kind of caught some breaks with some
Speaker 5: of their opponents. Somebody's like, tell me, you know, oh,
Speaker 5: the last four games they've done it, they've been top defense.
Speaker 5: You've played some of the worst offenses in the National
Speaker 5: Football Leagues last four weeks.
Speaker 7: The Cowboys saw it last year in that run after
Speaker 7: the bye week, and then they run into that December
Speaker 7: schedule where they see the Bills, the Lions, and the Dolphins.
Speaker 7: So yeah, it's just playing your schedule.
Speaker 3: It's playing your schedule. But you know, hey, you give
Speaker 3: them credit.
Speaker 5: I can say their defensive line, I think they've got
Speaker 5: some quality players there. The pass rush now here's another
Speaker 5: thing about them.
Speaker 3: Pressure rates.
Speaker 2: You know, I was just about to go there.
Speaker 5: Pressure rates. We saw this last week with Atlanta. You know,
Speaker 5: this team is given up again. They got fourteen sacks
Speaker 5: in the last four games Cleveland Giants, since they had
Speaker 5: eight sacks against the Giants at fourteen sacks, you know,
Speaker 5: so up until these last four games, it hasn't been
Speaker 5: if you want to go through you know, the losses
Speaker 5: they've had, they've had losses against the teams that are
Speaker 5: I believe that with Tampa was one of their losses
Speaker 5: and it was and then the other one they had
Speaker 5: was Atlanta Top ten offenses.
Speaker 7: Let me ask you something if you if you identified
Speaker 7: this as well, it feels like most of their pressure
Speaker 7: comes from the interior, the middle, not not even necessarily
Speaker 7: they got beasts.
Speaker 5: No, that's that's what I'm saying. The middle pressure is
Speaker 5: what you're going to have to do. And if you
Speaker 5: felt really great about Zach Mark right now, which you
Speaker 5: feel like, man, you're you feel like you see that
Speaker 5: you see the light in the end of the tunnel,
Speaker 5: that's you know, and I hope it's not an oncoming train.
Speaker 5: But but yeah, they've struggled with Martin has struggled with
Speaker 5: some pressures. He was he was with the most pressures
Speaker 5: last week against the Falcons, you know, and you worry
Speaker 5: about him having to deal with the size of Davis
Speaker 5: and Carter and Williams and those guys.
Speaker 6: Cooper Rush. I was going to say that we know
Speaker 6: Cooper Rush. He's not shown to be a very mobile quarterback.
Speaker 6: So it's not like that's an area of his game
Speaker 6: that you can expect him to get out of the
Speaker 6: pocket and run. That's an area where maybe a tree
Speaker 6: lance you could see him doing those kinds of things.
Speaker 6: But I don't, I don't know. I think I like,
Speaker 6: I think the.
Speaker 5: Ball for Cooper is going to get out. I think
Speaker 5: it's get the snap and throw it.
Speaker 3: I think that's where we're at right now.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Where where they Yeah? Where you are this? It looks
Speaker 5: like to me they've got good course. You mentioned Mitchell
Speaker 5: as a rookie. He's a quality corner. We'll see what
Speaker 5: happens with Slay because Slay's been dealing with growing didn't play,
Speaker 5: and then Isaiah Rodgers was playing.
Speaker 3: Last week.
Speaker 5: Isaiah Rodgers did a really fine job filling in the
Speaker 5: nickel Cooper Dejene like I say, they've taken Maddox out
Speaker 5: of the nickel and they put Dougine in. You know,
Speaker 5: he's given up some plays, he's given up some some receptions,
Speaker 5: targets and things like that, but he's playing better than Maddox.
Speaker 5: Where teams have taken event they found ways to get
Speaker 5: guys on.
Speaker 3: CJ.
Speaker 5: Gardner Johnson, the safety. You know, like twelve twelve attempts
Speaker 5: against him, four touchdowns. So you're kind of and I
Speaker 5: was watching these games and watching the explosive plays for
Speaker 5: passing and why every time is number eight kind of
Speaker 5: giving up a play? So how do you scheme? How
Speaker 5: do you get guys? Maybe you get Ferguson. Maybe this
Speaker 5: is something for Cooper Rush. He's thinking like, okay, wait
Speaker 5: a minute, that number eight's covering my number eighty seven.
Speaker 5: Here we go, whoo throw right there. Or maybe maybe
Speaker 5: they tried. They're giving that cover two look to safeties
Speaker 5: and then they walk. They walk Johnson and blanket Ship
Speaker 5: has had his share. The other safety has had his
Speaker 5: share of some issues too. So you know you see
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, Gardner Johnson walks over somebody. Maybe
Speaker 5: that'll trigger you to say, balls got to go there
Speaker 5: balls got to go there. I mean, they say I
Speaker 5: think their corners are pretty good.
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 5: I have no I have no issues with the question.
Speaker 5: They've had bad corner play in the past. I think
Speaker 5: they've gotten better at that with the addition of Mitchell
Speaker 5: and de Gene.
Speaker 4: So if you're getting ready for this game, for the
Speaker 4: Cowboys offensive coordinator, you understand the limitations of your offense. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you also understand what they do well and what they
Speaker 4: don't do well. What's your best way to attack this defense?
Speaker 3: Quick game? I do like that.
Speaker 7: I was looking back here on the five games that
Speaker 7: Cooper Rush had to start back in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 7: Is time to throw two point four to three was
Speaker 7: his average time to throw throughout throughout that season. So
Speaker 7: I think that's an opportunity for you know, this offen
Speaker 7: to be able to find some quick game action. You know,
Speaker 7: That's what I feel like they were best at last year.
Speaker 4: It doesn't work, though, if your receivers can't get separation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I'm just asking. It's a great point.
Speaker 4: With what we've seen so far this year, that's been
Speaker 4: a big problem for them. Yeah, if you're trying to
Speaker 4: get the quick game going. You kind of need them to.
Speaker 4: Either they're gonna have to get separation or they're just
Speaker 4: gonna have to be really, really great ball placement one
Speaker 4: of the two.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 7: I'll tell you one thing I would like to see
Speaker 7: in this game is ten touches for Dalvin Cook, not
Speaker 7: only in the receiving game, but also in the run game.
Speaker 7: He's their outside zone guy. They just him what they
Speaker 7: outside zonne stuff. Let him go outside zone. We've seen
Speaker 7: what he can do in the receiving game a couple
Speaker 7: of times in his two games this year. Give him
Speaker 7: some receiving opportunities. It will allow Cooper Rush to have
Speaker 7: a reliable dump down option. And then you hope Jake
Speaker 7: Ferguson can get open as well. These are two guys
Speaker 7: that I think that can get open in a hurry,
Speaker 7: and they're big, they're physical, and they can make some
Speaker 7: things happen in the open field.
Speaker 3: On the same token.
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Speaker 2: Calls Gary out of New Mexico. Gary, what up?
Speaker 18: Hey? How a y'all doing good?
Speaker 3: Are you good?
Speaker 18: Good? Hey? Brian? You talk a lot about the importance
Speaker 18: of the offensive line coach. And I agree with you
Speaker 18: on that. And it seems like, you know, the problems
Speaker 18: on offense go directly to the offensive line and not
Speaker 18: so much the young guys, but the right side of
Speaker 18: that line that are underperforming. My question to you is
Speaker 18: how Terrence Steele has regressed since his injury. But also
Speaker 18: in conjunction with that they changed offensive line coaches. How
Speaker 18: much of Terrence Steele's problem do you attribute to the
Speaker 18: change from Joe philbin Now to Mike Solari.
Speaker 3: It's Amy, Yeah, thank you for the call. I knew
Speaker 3: where you were going with that one. Uh.
Speaker 5: The you might have to ask Terrence Steele how he
Speaker 5: feels about it, but yeah, to me, I know, Todd
Speaker 5: Archer and I've had this discussion of Bunch Todd Archer
Speaker 5: from ESPN have had this discussion of Bunch. It maybe
Speaker 5: you're your third most important or your second most important
Speaker 5: coach on the staff is your offensive line guy. And yeah,
Speaker 5: there's some guys that seem to thrive. I mean, look
Speaker 5: the look what the Eagles do. They might fire their coordinators,
Speaker 5: but what do they do. They keep their line coach
Speaker 5: because they know they got a pretty good one in
Speaker 5: Jeff Southland. So I kind of feel like that maybe
Speaker 5: that some of these guys. You remember when they we
Speaker 5: went through all these coaches too.
Speaker 3: We had Mark.
Speaker 5: Colombo and Hudson Howick and mean, it was all these guys,
Speaker 5: and then Paul Alexander came in here, and what do
Speaker 5: they do in the middle of the season. They said, no,
Speaker 5: this high hand, low hand stuff. We're not coaching that
Speaker 5: stuff anymore. We're not doing that. We're gonna bring somebody
Speaker 5: else in. So, yeah, I think you would have to
Speaker 5: ask Terrence, but I'm be willing to bet just my
Speaker 5: observation that he misses Joe Philbina, he really really does.
Speaker 4: What worries me about it is whenever it's one thing
Speaker 4: when you see one player on the offensive line that
Speaker 4: maybe seems to not be having a great year, when
Speaker 4: you look across the offensive line and you say, outside
Speaker 4: of Tyler Smith, is there anybody else that you say
Speaker 4: is having a good year, That's when I say that
Speaker 4: feels more like it's across the board. That's where I
Speaker 4: look more at the coach. Again, I think the players
Speaker 4: are the ones that would have to say that, and
Speaker 4: they're obviously not going to say that on record, you'd
Speaker 4: have to talk to them off the record and they'd
Speaker 4: be willing to kind of admit it. But the fact
Speaker 4: of the matter is that's how I look at is
Speaker 4: when I see an across the board issue at a position,
Speaker 4: then my thought is what is the coach doing to
Speaker 4: address this? Is he spending enough time on it? Are
Speaker 4: the are the players understanding what they're being asked to do?
Speaker 4: And are they feeling like they have a chance and
Speaker 4: an ability to be able to do those things? And
Speaker 4: if you're not factoring all that in, then you're not
Speaker 4: coaching them well enough to get the right results.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 5: No, they've had some great line coaches here. You know,
Speaker 5: you can go back and Tony Wise, they're in the
Speaker 5: Super Bowl, Hudson, how you know? And then you know,
Speaker 5: one of my favorite one was Bill Callahan running game Moses.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 5: I mean they've had some They've had some really some
Speaker 5: quality line coaches.
Speaker 2: Here, and I think Joe Filber's right there with.
Speaker 5: Joe Philbin, you know. And for all the things that
Speaker 5: we kind of gave, I know, me personally giving Joe
Speaker 5: Philbin a lot of grief for actually kind of pulled
Speaker 5: through pretty well. I think that I think that the
Speaker 5: right tackle really miss as the coach. I think father
Speaker 5: time's getting your right guard. I think that's what happened.
Speaker 2: I think that would happen no matter what.
Speaker 3: You know, he he.
Speaker 5: Was he was kind of feeling his body like he
Speaker 5: you know, he was talking about how this might be
Speaker 5: the last campaign kind of thing. You know, he's kind
Speaker 5: of hitting around, you know that maybe this was last year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and and and so, you know, he's he's.
Speaker 5: One of those guys that kind of understands himself. I
Speaker 5: just think that the center and the left tackle are young,
Speaker 5: young guys.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 5: Necessarily if Joe Philman wanted wanted Tyler Smith. You know,
Speaker 5: I think there was some some back and forth between
Speaker 5: the scouts.
Speaker 2: And men when they were originally drafted.
Speaker 5: Originally drafted him, but you know, maybe his opinion changed
Speaker 5: after he watched him play. But but I know the
Speaker 5: right tackle thrived with Joe Filman here, he really did.
Speaker 4: All right, let's let's take a actually that Michael Smith.
Speaker 4: Actually I'm gonna give him a shout out because he
Speaker 4: actually asked the exact same question. Get Twitter to give
Speaker 4: him a quick shout on that. When we went a
Speaker 4: question from Bjesh Patel. He says, with Dax torn hamstring,
Speaker 4: why not start Trey Lance to see his actual ability
Speaker 4: with starters? What we saw in the preseason obviously he
Speaker 4: was playing with backups. Do you think that's an interesting
Speaker 4: way to look at it, at least from the standpoint
Speaker 4: of if you want to see him with real starting
Speaker 4: caliber players on the field, this is an opportunity to
Speaker 4: do it.
Speaker 7: I think there's a couple of things that factor into that.
Speaker 7: A being Cooper Rush has done nothing to deserve not
Speaker 7: being the starter in this case. And you know, as
Speaker 7: a backup quarterback, you don't hope anyone aboves you gets injured.
Speaker 7: Him and Dack of a great relationship, but you do
Speaker 7: wait on your opportunity, and when you do have your opportunity,
Speaker 7: you want to be able to strike. And Cooper Rush
Speaker 7: has only proven and his two big opportunities in Dallas
Speaker 7: that he can strike five and one as a starter.
Speaker 7: So I think that's part of it also too, being
Speaker 7: that there's a lot of people in this building that
Speaker 7: still feel like this season where they can make the
Speaker 7: playoffs eat right, and Cooper Rush gives them the best
Speaker 7: chance of doing that. Now that being said, I would
Speaker 7: be shocked. If you don't see Trey Lance over the
Speaker 7: course of the next few weeks, ye'd maybe not this week.
Speaker 7: As the week goes on, I think it's going to
Speaker 7: be more Cooper. They want to get Cooper ingrained in
Speaker 7: the offense, They want to get him going. Thinks, as
Speaker 7: soon as you see Cooper get comfortable, you'll see Trey
Speaker 7: start to get worked in.
Speaker 5: Yeah, let this thing get to three and eight or something,
Speaker 5: three and nine, something like that, and then all of
Speaker 5: a sudden, December is all about.
Speaker 3: That's the self decide.
Speaker 5: You know, fans, fans have moved on, Fans have you know,
Speaker 5: the people in that building across the way from us
Speaker 5: still believe now the fan and that's cool, and the fans,
Speaker 5: you know, you're thinking I met personally, I'm thinking I'd
Speaker 5: like to see Cooper rush assuming uh, Trey Lance, just
Speaker 5: because I'm curious. I'm curious, did San Francisco miss this guy?
Speaker 5: And and is there something that these coaches can get
Speaker 5: out of him that could be and also the compensatory pick,
Speaker 5: you know something, and maybe it turns into as well
Speaker 5: that he plays well enough, but he still wants to
Speaker 5: be here, you know, kind of thing. And maybe you
Speaker 5: got your idea about your your backup guy that you
Speaker 5: feel a little bit better about about that.
Speaker 7: Such Cooper could also be your compensatory.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I.
Speaker 5: Think that teams would look I kind of feel like
Speaker 5: that that Cooper Rush. And everybody likes to talk about
Speaker 5: the floor of the ceiling thing which I don't even understand,
Speaker 5: but the ceiling right here, Yeah, that's what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: the ceiling for one guy. I feel like Cooper Rush
Speaker 5: is kind of at a ceiling. Maybe with Trey Lance,
Speaker 5: that somebody would say, hey, young guy, we could take him,
Speaker 5: we can do stuff with. Yeah, that's why I think
Speaker 5: maybe he would get a better opportunity.
Speaker 7: I look at some of these teams though, that are
Speaker 7: just a system quarterback away, and I don't want to
Speaker 7: throw out any team names out there, but there are
Speaker 7: a couple of team names out there that I think
Speaker 7: could work with a guy like Cooper's.
Speaker 2: That's the only reason.
Speaker 6: But see, even though I agree one percent with Cooper
Speaker 6: Rush being the starter during Dak's absence, I do think, like,
Speaker 6: what what prevents the Cowboys from working trade Lance in
Speaker 6: in certain nothing place not be creative? Take this opportunity
Speaker 6: to use trade Lan's ability to run and has his
Speaker 6: type of mobility to design certain specific plays for him,
Speaker 6: especially because you don't have a running game or you're
Speaker 6: hoping to kind of create some running game here with
Speaker 6: the running now, but uh.
Speaker 2: I, why not?
Speaker 6: Why not do it where your main guy and is
Speaker 6: still Cooper rush? But you just throw him in there situations.
Speaker 5: Just make sure you alert him so there's not twelve
Speaker 5: guys in the hub that kind of thing. That wait, Mike, Yeah,
Speaker 5: when if you see him coming on, Cooper, you need
Speaker 5: to go to the side.
Speaker 2: You know what, I will throw this out though.
Speaker 4: I heard Babel Offenburg this morning. He was on the
Speaker 4: fan with Sean and RJ and Bobby, and I thought
Speaker 4: he actually made an interesting point from the perspective of
Speaker 4: a quarterback. He said, you know, when when you are
Speaker 4: a backup quarterback, if you get called into action and
Speaker 4: it's week one, two three of the NFL season, it's
Speaker 4: probably a little bit easier. Not probably, he said, it
Speaker 4: is a little bit easier because you're not that far
Speaker 4: and move from actually getting reps back during training camp.
Speaker 2: The farther you go into.
Speaker 4: A season, those are weeks when essentially you have not
Speaker 4: played football. You may run scout team, but scout team
Speaker 4: is not developing your skills. It's not developing your understanding
Speaker 4: of the offense. You literally are get a card and
Speaker 4: saying on this play, throw over here, and so you
Speaker 4: basically just go through the mechanics of it.
Speaker 2: You're not developing.
Speaker 4: And so he said, you know, when you start thinking
Speaker 4: about it from the standpoint of working in packages for
Speaker 4: Trey Lance, the challenge with that is right now Dallas
Speaker 4: is having to reacclimate their backup quarterback to playing football.
Speaker 2: So all those reps that he's.
Speaker 4: Getting in practice, those are critical, Like he needs those
Speaker 4: reps in order to get back up to speed. And
Speaker 4: do you want to take five of those reps, ten
Speaker 4: of those reps during practice when you really need to
Speaker 4: get him up to speed to actually give those to
Speaker 4: Trey Lance so Trey Lance can be prepared to come
Speaker 4: in for four or five maybe reps during the game.
Speaker 2: I just thought it was an interesting because this is
Speaker 2: from a formal quarterback.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is where I disagree with with, Babe. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and I disagree with you got twenty seven coaches on
Speaker 5: this staff last year. I'm sure they had you know,
Speaker 5: the smart team would have had practice for Trey Lance.
Speaker 3: After practice, they.
Speaker 5: Would have taken all the scout team excuse be, all
Speaker 5: the practice squad, wide receivers and running back on whoever
Speaker 5: was on that and they would have had another thirty
Speaker 5: minute practice for him.
Speaker 7: They did that in pregame last year. Every game they
Speaker 7: were able to travel with that QB three, So about
Speaker 7: three four hours before games they were able to work.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. You know that.
Speaker 5: That to me is yeah, it's not actual game reps,
Speaker 5: but it's you're right.
Speaker 3: He's right.
Speaker 5: In practice you have nine you have nine plays. You know,
Speaker 5: every the offense has nine plays, defense has nine plays.
Speaker 5: And then you go to the next period. You know,
Speaker 5: backup quarterback might get two reps, three reps, so you
Speaker 5: know Dak gets six, Cooper Rush gets three.
Speaker 3: Next drill here we go.
Speaker 5: So to me, it's with all these coaches on staff
Speaker 5: have a practice for him after the practice. Hey, you know,
Speaker 5: like you say, wide receiver guys, stay out, we're throwing
Speaker 5: the ball and put him through all that. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 5: down in distance situations, you want to make a fake
Speaker 5: rush on him, make fake rush, make him have to
Speaker 5: move around, do stuff with him, challenge him. Hey, give
Speaker 5: him different looks.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 3: That's that's coaching.
Speaker 5: That's that's making sure that like you don't have to like, oh, hey,
Speaker 5: we're all those notes we had in the preseason what
Speaker 5: we did with with Trey Lance. No, you've been working
Speaker 5: on it, you know, week two, week three, week four,
Speaker 5: You've been doing these things and kind of finding out
Speaker 5: what he's good at and what he's not good at.
Speaker 3: And I read zone stuff seems.
Speaker 6: I am probably with like the reps and all of that.
Speaker 6: Obviously that matters who you're getting what team you're getting
Speaker 6: those reps with. But at the same time, in my mentality,
Speaker 6: even if you're a backup or a backup of a backup,
Speaker 6: you should always be ready regardless. You know, that's your
Speaker 6: job to be ready when the time is called. Your
Speaker 6: job is not to let may warm up for two
Speaker 6: weeks and maybe then I'll be ready. It's for whenever
Speaker 6: emergency happens, you're ready to go. I mean, yes, but
Speaker 6: I get what you're saying and what baby is saying
Speaker 6: and all that. It makes one hundred percent sense. But
Speaker 6: at the same time, I don't think it should be
Speaker 6: an excuse as to not plug him in and try
Speaker 6: to see some of him too.
Speaker 5: Yeah, if it means doing read option stuff, either seeing
Speaker 5: if the end's gonna crash and him go or him
Speaker 5: hand the ball and do a fake, that's not I
Speaker 5: mean reading defenses and stuff of throwing the football. Okay,
Speaker 5: I get that.
Speaker 3: But he's sitting in meetings, he's watching practice. He's like,
Speaker 3: I'd make that throw. I'd throw it over there.
Speaker 5: I mean he's watching and he's hearing the mistakes that
Speaker 5: Dak's making. So he's like like, okay, but you know,
Speaker 5: like I say, I just I just sometimes it drives
Speaker 5: me nuts when they talk about it's not like college
Speaker 5: football where these kids have to go to class.
Speaker 3: You have the whole job.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is your job, you know, make sure that
Speaker 5: all your quarterbacks have are ready to play.
Speaker 3: Make sure they're all ready to play real quick.
Speaker 4: Before we end the show, what are we hearing about
Speaker 4: at this point them being able to work in Jonathan Mingo?
Speaker 4: Is there a chance he plays this week or is
Speaker 4: this something he's gotten here too late? Really at this point,
Speaker 4: he's just trying to get acclimated and maybe by next
Speaker 4: week you have him ready.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was a little bit later than expected. I
Speaker 7: think for us as far as Mingo not being at
Speaker 7: practice yesterday, but expectation is that he he is in
Speaker 7: the building.
Speaker 2: That is as.
Speaker 7: Far as expectation goes practice, and they'll kind of see
Speaker 7: on Saturday if he'll be ready to go. But if
Speaker 7: he can't go, then that that's an easy inactive to
Speaker 7: figure out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, my guess he's probably going to be inactive this
Speaker 5: week and we'll see what happens next week against against
Speaker 5: the Texans.
Speaker 4: Right, Texans Day and some Monday night games, you get
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