1 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: So what if I told you that my next guest 2 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: wrote about making America Healthy Again before it was a thing, 3 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: before it was a national movement. She actually wrote the 4 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: book about it back in April of twenty twenty. We'll 5 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: talk about why she wrote the book and what she 6 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: thinks about the movement today. She's also starting another important 7 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: conversation on X or Twitter or tweet, whatever you want 8 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: to call it these days. 9 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 2: But she posted about it. 10 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: She said this, She said, vaccines have saved lives, vaccines 11 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: have also ruined lives, So why can't we have that 12 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 1: conversation as a country, that more nuanced conversation about it. 13 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 2: I'll dive into that question with her. 14 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: Also, we're saying that measles are rearing its ugly head 15 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: across the nation. So what's driving this outbreak? 16 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 2: What do you need to know about it? What can 17 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 2: we do about it? We'll talk to her about that. 18 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: We'll also discuss the alarming increase of breast cancer rates, 19 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: particularly in younger women, what's driving that? And finally we'll 20 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: talk about what we can do to reclaim our healthiest lives. 21 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: What steps can we take to be healthier to live healthier? 22 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,279 Speaker 1: So stay tuned for my brilliant friend and my Fox 23 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: News colleague, doctor Nicole Sapphire. And in addition to doing 24 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: the Fox thing, she does like a billion things. She's 25 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: a mom, she's a wife, she does all the things. 26 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: But she also has a day job as a radiologist 27 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: and the director of breast cancer Imaging at Memorial Sloan Kettering. 28 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 1: She also started a new company called drop r Ex. 29 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: So we'll get into all of this with doctor Nicole Sapphire. 30 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: Trust me, you don't want to miss it. 31 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 2: Stay tuned well, doctor Sapphire. It's great to have you on. 32 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: I always love being on air with you, and it's 33 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: great to have you on the podcast. 34 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,559 Speaker 3: Thanks so much for having me on, Lisa, I also 35 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 3: love being on air podcasts on everything with you. Your 36 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 3: personality is just incredible. 37 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 2: Well, and you're awesome. We always have so much fun together. 38 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: I feel bad for the show because, like in commercial breaks, 39 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: probably be like you guys, you're like doing television, so 40 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: lock it up. 41 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 3: Do you know where I like to be with you 42 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 3: the most? 43 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: Though? 44 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 3: I mean, obviously we're very giggly during commercial breaks, but 45 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 3: you're so knowledgeable about so many things that I don't 46 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 3: even think about. And I think that, you know, put 47 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 3: us together and we cover we have We kind of 48 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 3: have this knowledge power where we kind of cover a 49 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 3: lot of different topics and I love it. You complete me, 50 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 3: is what I'm trying to Lisa. 51 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 2: You complete me. Well, you're brilliant, which is why I 52 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 2: want to do on the show. 53 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's always funny because you know, obviously people aren't 54 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: privy to like what's happening during the commercial breaks, but 55 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: basically we're always like giggling together and having fun and 56 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 1: then you know, they get in our ear and they're like, oh, 57 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: you guys are about to go live. 58 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 2: Get seriously, I get serious. But you know that's what 59 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 2: That's what the beautiful. 60 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: Thing about working at Fox is. You know, we get 61 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: to be friends with each other and have fun but 62 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: also dive into the substance and cover things that are 63 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: obviously important to the audience in the country. So and 64 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: that's what I love about you is but we can 65 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 1: have fun but then also be serious as well. 66 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 2: So in that note, I. 67 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: Saw your tweet recently, Well, I guess it's an. 68 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 2: X is a post? Are we say post? 69 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 3: Now? 70 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 2: I don't even know we say tweet? 71 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, why not take that away? 72 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 2: I know, I don't like. I don't like. 73 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: I saw your ex like, I don't even know what 74 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: it's called these days, but anyway, I saw your post, 75 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: your tweet whatever on X and you you wrote that 76 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: vaccines have saved lives, vaccines have also ruined lives. Why 77 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: why can't we have that nuanced conversation as a country, 78 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: Because that's right. I mean, it can be both and 79 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: both are worthy of discussion. So why don't we have 80 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: that discussion as a country? 81 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 3: Well, LI say, you know, the conversation surrounding vaccine, vaccine 82 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 3: safety and hesitancy. It has always been there, but obviously 83 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 3: it is now in the limelight with RFK Junior in 84 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 3: the Make America Healthy Again movement getting ready joining the 85 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 3: Trump administration and really going full throttle right now. And 86 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 3: one of the biggest criticisms are pushback of our junior 87 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 3: and the proposed agenda is how is it going to 88 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 3: affect vaccines? Now? All we have to do is look 89 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 3: back to COVID. I mean, you know better than anybody else. 90 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 3: I mean, there was a lot of controversy around the 91 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 3: vaccine ruleout. Yes, we went through the Emergency Use Authorization. 92 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 3: Operation WARP Speed was an incredible thing. President Trump got 93 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,679 Speaker 3: rid of a lot of that red tape to really 94 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 3: try to get vaccines to market, anything that we could 95 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 3: possibly do as the world was in crisis, and he 96 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 3: was able to do that. Now, where they missed the 97 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 3: mark was the mandates with the vaccine and not being 98 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 3: wholly transparent when they started seeing that the efficacy or 99 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 3: the ability of the vaccine to prevent infection, how quickly 100 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 3: that began to wane. And as soon as they started 101 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 3: seeing that signal, they should have been in front of 102 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 3: the camera. You should have seen doctor Fauci and everyone 103 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 3: else saying, hey, guys, what we're seeing is this is 104 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 3: not going to be preventing infection. So let's change our 105 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 3: talking points and say this vaccine should be targeted for 106 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 3: the that are highest risk, because we are still seeing 107 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 3: that it's keeping some people out of the hospital and 108 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 3: we're not having nearly as many deaths from COVID. Unfortunately, 109 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 3: they did not see that, and they left it to 110 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 3: the American public to realize, Hey, I just got the vaccine, 111 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 3: but why do I have COVID all of a sudden, 112 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 3: and so the American people had to put it together ourselves, 113 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 3: and all of a sudden that created this massive distrust. 114 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 3: All the while, you still had the CDC recommending vaccination 115 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 3: for everybody, even in kids young adults, who are our 116 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 3: healthiest population. And then we started seeing safety signal alerts 117 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 3: in these younger populations for the cardiac inflammation as well 118 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 3: as other inflammation. And again it was we were having 119 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 3: to hear from anecdotes online people who were being negatively 120 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 3: affected by these vaccines instead of just coming out and saying, hey, guys, 121 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 3: you know what, we're going to roll back these vaccines 122 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 3: in these healthy population because there are some side effects 123 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 3: and when we're weighing the risk and benefits, you know, 124 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 3: maybe it's not there. But they doubled down on their 125 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 3: mail and they continued on to the point where the 126 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 3: COVID vaccine was added to the childhood vaccination schedule, just 127 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 3: like it was equivalent to measles, mumps, mubella, and polio 128 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,239 Speaker 3: and some of these other things. And that's the biggest issue. 129 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 3: So when people are saying RFK Junior is the biggest 130 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 3: anti vaccine history and he's the reason that we have 131 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 3: declining vaccination rates, I call bs on that. No way 132 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 3: the CDC did it to themselves Okay, they're the reason 133 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 3: there is massive distrust in the United States right now 134 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 3: when it comes to vaccines. Now we're seeing in Texas 135 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 3: and we're seeing in New Mexico these outbreaks of measles. Now, 136 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 3: we do see outbreaks of meases every year for the 137 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 3: last several years. Unfortunately, a couple of decades ago, measles 138 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 3: had essentially been eradicated in the United States because of 139 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 3: a large uptake in the MMR vaccines. Over ninety six 140 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 3: percent of children had been vaccinated. Well, global cases of 141 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 3: mess have risen recently, and our vaccination rates against measles 142 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 3: in the United States have started decreasing. So when you 143 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 3: have those opposing factors, you're going to start seeing measles outbreaks, 144 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 3: especially in little pockets of the country where there's a 145 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 3: high rate of unvaccinated individuals. We saw that in New 146 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 3: York right before COVID, and now we're seeing that in Texas. 147 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 3: It popped up in one of these communities where there's 148 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 3: a you know, a higher unvaccinated rate compared to the 149 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 3: rest of the country. Now, the measles doesn't just come 150 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 3: out of nowhere. It has to be introduced somewhere. Now, 151 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 3: is it possible. Usually actually one hundred percent of our 152 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 3: cases in the United States have always been from foreign travel, 153 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 3: whether an individual. 154 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: We also had an influx of you know, open borders 155 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: over the past four years. So do you think did 156 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: that play a role in sort of you know, bringing 157 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: you know, measles you know, across the southern border more 158 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: or less. 159 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's exactly what we're talking about. We're talking 160 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 3: about Florier states, right, so West Texas. So usually in 161 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 3: the United States you can identify the patient zero, they 162 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 3: traveled abroad and they were exposed to it abroad, and 163 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 3: then they brought it back here. We have yet to 164 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 3: receive information about where it actually came from. They said 165 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 3: they actually don't know. But so the question is, you 166 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 3: do have a lot of immigrants in Texas maybe who 167 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 3: are coming across the border or someone else who has 168 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 3: traveled abroad, so they had to introduce it to that community, 169 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 3: and then from that community, with the low vaccination rate, 170 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 3: it has continued to spread. What I'm finding interesting is 171 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:35,719 Speaker 3: about twenty percent of these cases are an in vaccinated individuals. 172 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 3: So that brings a question to me, is what is 173 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 3: the waning immunity of these measles vaccines, because historically, the 174 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 3: data that we have quoted is if you have two 175 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 3: doses of that MMR vaccine that has a ninety seven 176 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 3: percent rate of preventing infection, ninety seven percent is pretty 177 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 3: dang good. It's nowhere near what we saw with the 178 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 3: COVID vaccine, where essentially was zero that it prevents to infection. 179 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 3: But so if these two noses of the MMR vaccine 180 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 3: prevents infection ninety seven percent of the time, how are 181 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 3: we seeing twenty percent of these cases in Texas and 182 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 3: New Mexico in vaccinated individuals where they just have a 183 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 3: very high exposure. Did they have waning immunity from the vaccine? 184 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 3: You know, these are some questions that I have. But 185 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 3: one thing that I want to point out to people. 186 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 3: You know, when you see people going on television right now, 187 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 3: they're saying, you know, one in five people who get 188 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 3: measles are going to be hospitalized, and there's a one 189 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 3: in one thousand who will have encephalitis or an even 190 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 3: greater or even more smaller number who will die from measles. Yes, 191 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 3: there are some terrifying consequences of measles. I don't wish 192 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 3: it on anybody, but The good news is we have 193 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 3: a lot more modern medical marvels these days then we 194 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 3: did historically when we were collecting all of this data. 195 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 3: So the mortality rates that we have been quoting probably 196 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 3: are outdated. And again, while I don't I won't be 197 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 3: taking my kids to measles exposure parties anytime soon, you know, 198 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 3: because there are serious consequences. Measles likes to infect the 199 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 3: brain and it can be awful. But I do think 200 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 3: that we're not going to see nearly the mortality of 201 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 3: these measles cases as we had seen historically in the past. 202 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 2: Well, that's a great point. 203 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: And then also like even on the questioning of vaccines, 204 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: you know, particularly the COVID vaccine, I think it's hell 205 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: for you to be able to have discussion. You know, 206 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: science changes, right, and you adapt and you modernize. And 207 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: then even with that, I mean you look at the 208 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: measles vaccine as well as poliomy. They went through different 209 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: iterations throughout time, right, and so I think it's perfectly 210 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: fair to you know, question things and to have that 211 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: conversation as well, you know. And on that note, you know, 212 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: you had talked about how the COVID vaccine was added 213 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: to sort of the childhood vaccine schedule. I mean, I 214 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: think there's something like fifteen different immunizations, you know, shots 215 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: or drops. 216 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 2: Do is that necessary? Or are we over vaccinating kids? 217 00:10:59,559 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 2: You know? 218 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: I mean clearly, you know, you pointed out the dangers 219 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: of measles Polio also I think has a high fatality 220 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: rate for adults. 221 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 3: You know. 222 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: So there's purpose and things like that, But are we 223 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: overdoing it or do we have it right? 224 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,599 Speaker 3: You know? So I'm a nerd, and so I was 225 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 3: live streaming all I like you, confirmational hearings while I 226 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 3: was working in the hospital, like in between patients. I 227 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 3: was listening to all the testimony because I found it 228 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:26,839 Speaker 3: wildly fascinating. And Senator Ran Paul brought up this exact 229 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 3: brought up this exact concept of are we over vaccinating 230 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 3: our children? And I can tell you as a mom, 231 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 3: you know, I believe in the childhood vaccinations and I 232 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 3: certainly have vaccinated my children. Have I given them one 233 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 3: hundred percent of the vaccines on that recommended vaccination schedule? No? 234 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 3: I have not, And that is because I do believe 235 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 3: in individual choice, and I do believe that vaccines should 236 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 3: be based on risk assessment and risk versus benefit when 237 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 3: it comes to measles, monks and rubella and polio etheria 238 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 3: and some of those that really just historically had very 239 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 3: high fatality rates that we had really eradicated. Those are 240 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 3: the ones that I found to be very important. When 241 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 3: you are looking at some of the other things that 242 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 3: are on the recommendated schedule, like hepatitis B, covid and 243 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 3: flu and some of these others, I mean, those are 244 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 3: really for risk based populations. Hepatitis B. As a mother, 245 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,719 Speaker 3: you when you are pregnant, you're tested to see if 246 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 3: you have hepatitis B, and so therefore your child upon birth. 247 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 3: If you're negative, your child upon birth is going to 248 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 3: be negative as well. The reason this was added to 249 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 3: the vaccination schedule is just in case you don't know 250 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 3: the hepatitis B status of the mother, Well, if the 251 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 3: mother received routine of stetrical care, you know the status 252 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 3: of her. So rather than just being a knee jerk 253 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 3: reflex that the child should be vaccinated against hepatitis B, 254 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 3: why don't you just ask what the mothers status is 255 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 3: and if it's unknown, you can test the mother. Like 256 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 3: why do we have to preemptively vaccinate our children now 257 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 3: hepatitis B. Certain populations are high risk for contracting hepatitis B. 258 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 3: Healthcare workers for one, intravenous drug users for two. And 259 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 3: so if you fall into these populations as an adult, 260 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 3: then you can make that decision whether or not you 261 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 3: feel that you should be vaccinated against this because now 262 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 3: you're a higher risk individual. But as a child, these 263 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 3: children are not high risk for hepatitis B. Now, you 264 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 3: don't want a child to get hepatitis B. It can 265 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 3: have devastating consequences. But if you know the mother's status, 266 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 3: then you should feel confidently not giving the newborn that vaccine. 267 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: We've got more at Doctor Sapphire, but first, the news 268 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: has been moving so fast that it's hard to keep 269 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: up and easy to get distracted. Here's something you don't 270 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: hear that much about, and it matters more than almost anything. 271 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: There are babies in their mother's womb who need your 272 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: help right now. Preborn's network of clinics are on the 273 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: front lines nationwide and on standby for women deciding between 274 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,839 Speaker 1: the life of their babies Porn's. 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And 294 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: you know what, we have seen increased rates of breast cancer, 295 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: particularly in younger women. 296 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 2: Why why is it increasing? And you know what do 297 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 2: you think is behind that? 298 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 3: Oh? Well, I mean that is something that is obviously 299 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 3: in my day to day life and of course it's 300 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 3: important that I point out all of these opinions are 301 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 3: my own and not of that of my employer. However, 302 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 3: as someone who delivers a cancer diagnosis to people every 303 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 3: single day of my professional career, which you know most 304 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 3: people don't realize. 305 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 2: But I do work, that'd be really hard. 306 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So breast cancer incidents, or the number of 307 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 3: breast cancer cases is undoubtedly on the rise. And yes, 308 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 3: a part of that is we are screening more, we're 309 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 3: diagnosing more, that's all absolutely true, So therefore we're finding 310 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 3: more cases. However, we are starting to see more aggressive 311 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 3: cases in younger people. And when we look at this, 312 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 3: yesterday I saw two patients in their thirties with aggressive 313 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 3: breast cancer. I feel like I am starting to see 314 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 3: more breast cancer in thirty to forty year olds than 315 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 3: I have ever found before. And so you have to 316 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 3: take a step back and say, well, why is this? 317 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 3: And the reality is it's our environment. There's no black 318 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 3: and white answer. But this goes along with part of 319 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 3: the Make America Healthy Again movement. You know, you mentioned 320 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 3: I wrote the book Make America Health. 321 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 2: T twenty twenty, So that's the right. Yeah, you're ahead 322 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 2: of the curve, my friend. 323 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 3: But that whole thing, how bad behavior and big government 324 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 3: is called a trillion dollar crisis. There is an entire 325 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 3: chapter dedicated to cancer and how about fifty percent of 326 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 3: all cancers could potentially be prevented if we just take 327 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 3: certain steps to make sure that we're living our healthiest 328 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 3: lives and we remove some of the toxins around us. 329 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 3: So it's the microplastics, it's the chemicals that we're ingesting, 330 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 3: whether it's from our cosmetics, the lotions. I mean, think 331 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 3: about this, Lisa. So the largest organ in your body 332 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 3: is your skin. Okay, your skin surface. It is highly absorbable, right. 333 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 3: You like to put on lotion because it's absorbed to 334 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 3: the skin. Well, have you ever looked at the ingredients 335 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 3: in your lotion? If there's just one or two, I 336 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 3: don't know what you're putting on because the majority of 337 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 3: ingredients that are in mind, I can't even pronounce. So 338 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 3: we are literally wiping these chemicals all over our bodies 339 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 3: and it's being absorbed into our skin. And not to 340 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 3: mention the stuff that we consume through our foods, through 341 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 3: our drinks, our beverages, just the pollution all around us 342 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 3: and the air I mean, it's no wonder that we 343 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 3: have so much illness. It's not just people not getting 344 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 3: to the gym enough. And but but by the way, 345 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 3: that's a big part of it. And so it's a 346 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 3: huge concern. It's a huge concern when you look at 347 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 3: all of the factors that have contributed to. 348 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 2: It, you know. 349 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 1: And I feel guilty right now because I'm drinking water 350 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: out of a plastic bottle, which I feel like after 351 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: you're saying that is probably pretty dumb. 352 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 3: We do want to say one that you know me, 353 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 3: you know, and to the fact that you don't have 354 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 3: to be a nutritional expert. You don't have to be 355 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 3: a gym rat. You have to live your life because 356 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 3: I'll tell you, I see patients who are living their 357 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 3: healthiest life. They are, you know, super green, there's no chemicals, 358 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 3: they're not drinking alcohol, they're not smoking, they're exercising five 359 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 3: days a week like they're living their best, healthiest life. 360 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 3: And bad things can still happen. They can still get 361 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 3: a breast cancer because something in their genetic makeup. They 362 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 3: can still get a lymphoma because who knows why. So 363 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 3: what you have heard me say at nauseum is we 364 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 3: can all be doing a little better than we're doing 365 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 3: right now. We can all be being a little bit healthier, 366 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 3: moving our body a little bit more. But at the 367 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 3: end of the day, we need to enjoy your life 368 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 3: because we only have one of them. 369 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: What I appreciate about you, and this is something that 370 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: I kind of realized during COVID, particularly because they would 371 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: have doctors try to convince me to get the COVID 372 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 1: vaccine or you know, even after try to convince me 373 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: to get the flu vaccine, and I'm like, or flu shot. Rather, 374 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: it's not a vaccine, but and I'm like, I'm young 375 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: and healthy. I'd rather just build up my natural immunity 376 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: and tackle it that way. But there seems to because 377 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: what I love about you is obviously you have the 378 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 1: medical background. You know, went to school, you did all 379 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: the things, you look at the studies, but you also 380 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: play common sense and logic in that aspect. 381 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 2: You know, this is probably you know, a broad accusation, but. 382 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 1: That seems to be more lost nowadays in the medical community. 383 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 2: Would would you agree with that? And if so, why 384 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 2: do you like? What would you attribute that to? You know? 385 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 2: Why is that? 386 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 3: I The reality is I think a lot of people 387 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 3: have common sense, but they will not admit to it publicly. 388 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 3: So what these positions may say to you publicly and 389 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 3: on the record maybe something completely different of what they're 390 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 3: telling their family and friends off the record. I think 391 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 3: that people are definitely afraid of being. 392 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 2: Because we've had, you know, conversation. 393 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: Obviously we're friends, we texted, we've talked offline, But then 394 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 1: I've also heard this stuff. So I will give you 395 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 1: credit for you know, you tell the truth and regardless where. 396 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 2: It is, So I appreciate that about you. 397 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 3: I appreciate that. Yeah, no, it it can be really hard. 398 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 3: You can absolutely so that you mentioned a tweet or 399 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 3: a post I put on X a little while ago, 400 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 3: and I said, vaccines have saved lives, vaccines have ruined lives. 401 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,479 Speaker 3: Do you know what the beauty of that tweet was? 402 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 3: I got attacked from both sides. 403 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 2: You're making no friends with that one. 404 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 3: If you can't acknowledge that truth, you're part of the 405 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 3: problem and you will no way be able to help 406 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 3: with the solution. And that was the issue that I had. 407 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 3: The biggest issue I had with the COVID vaccine was 408 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,479 Speaker 3: I was, okay, you know, adults, I understood that it 409 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 3: was decreasing. It was decreasing severity in the older cases. 410 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 3: When we thought it was reducing transmission, I'm like, you 411 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 3: know what, let's all be a part of this big 412 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 3: you know, let's kumbaya, hold our hands together and try 413 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 3: to get this under control so we can all get 414 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 3: back to our lives. The moment they became readily apparent 415 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 3: it was not preventing transmission, it's like, all right, that's 416 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 3: an off pullback. And I'll tell you I always said 417 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 3: I do not believe we should be vaccinating our children. 418 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 3: I wrote about it over and over and over again. 419 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 3: I was very concerned about the inflammatory effects of that 420 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 3: vaccine on kids. And because of that, I was called 421 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 3: by a lot of people to be part of the 422 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 3: anti VAXX movement. But the reality is you can be 423 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 3: anti mandate and still support vaccines. And that was the 424 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 3: problem people. You had to be all or nothing. You 425 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 3: had to be all in or you were outcast during 426 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 3: that time, and that became amplified during COVID and it 427 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 3: still is. And I'll tell you a lot of these 428 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 3: people that are going on TV, I would say ninety 429 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 3: percent of them are saying one thing to the public, 430 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 3: but maybe they're a little bit more loosey goose to 431 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 3: their family and friends, but they do not want to 432 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 3: be boxed out as supporting any sort of vaccine hesitancy. 433 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: And before we go, you know, I've had doctor Martin McCarey, 434 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: another former colleague of ours, but he has left us. 435 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 3: But he's but you know what, I'm glad he's going 436 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 3: where he's going maybe overhaul. 437 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he'll be great with the Trump administration. But uh, 438 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: or is it CDC off the top of my head, right, 439 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 1: f D A f D A FDA. 440 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 2: Rather who's is? No, that's NaHg about a chart? 441 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going through my mind all right, But anyways, 442 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: he is moving on. Yeah. 443 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 2: But so he had mentioned that. 444 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: In medical school that they that you study like an 445 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: old food pyramid and like you very briefly talk about, 446 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 1: you know, food health and in that aspect of the equation, 447 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 1: and that's like outdata, not even you know, scientifically sound anymore. 448 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 2: But if you had to lay out three of. 449 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: The most important things to try to be healthy, to 450 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: try to stay healthy, what would your guidance be? 451 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I don't even think we've saw the food 452 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 3: pyramid when I was in medical school. I think I 453 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 3: remember that from elementary school. Really medical school is about 454 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 3: being able to understand disease and knowing the medications to 455 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 3: prescribe to treat it. And that's the reality. But mind you, 456 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 3: I did go to medical school a while ago, so 457 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 3: maybe things have evolved. I know there's a lot more 458 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 3: DEI classes. I didn't have those. But for me living 459 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 3: my healthiest life, and I really do try to lead 460 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 3: by example. I post a law on Instagram. You know, 461 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 3: a little bit less on x some of the things 462 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 3: that we do at our household, but I for me 463 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 3: and my family, you have to get your body moving. 464 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 3: I mean we are. We exercise and not in sensives 465 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,199 Speaker 3: like gym rats. Like we'll go to the trampoline park. 466 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 3: You know, we'll go and play tag outside. We have 467 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 3: we have paintballs. We run out and play like paintball wars. 468 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 3: So making sure your body is moving is probably one 469 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 3: of the best possible things that you can do. It 470 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 3: doesn't mean you have to go be a gym rat, 471 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:58,199 Speaker 3: because I find the gym to be very boring. The 472 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 3: other thing is you have to increase your fruits and 473 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 3: vegetable intake. I mean it is so vital. There are 474 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 3: so many nutrients in fruits and vegetables. You don't want 475 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 3: to just be popping a multi vitamin because I can 476 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 3: tell you you're not getting the nutrition from those multivitamins 477 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 3: as you are from fresh fruits and vegetables. And so 478 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 3: I have a garden, and I'm not saying everybody needs 479 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 3: to create a garden, but you need to maintain yourself 480 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 3: on the periphery at the grocery store because that's where 481 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 3: all the healthy stuff is. Once you start going to 482 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 3: the center of the grocery store, that's where all the 483 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 3: crap is. So if you can just stay on the 484 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 3: perifery of the grocery store and get your vegetables, your fruits, 485 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 3: then you go to your meats and your dairies. For me, 486 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 3: I really do try to decrease the amount of hormones 487 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 3: and antibiotics that my family consumes, because I think that's 488 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 3: a huge part in why we're seeing colon cancer, antibiotic resistance, 489 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 3: and even some breast cancers because of our intake of 490 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 3: hormones and the antibiotics. So I really try to look 491 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 3: for hormone free antibiotic free, and I also have chickens 492 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 3: now because I want my my own eggs, and so 493 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 3: I'm not a farmer by any stretch of the imagination. 494 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 3: But I do have hens, and I do have my 495 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 3: own eggs, and that is how I guarantee that there 496 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 3: are no hormones in those eggs, there are no antibiotics 497 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 3: in those eggs, and so I feed my hens the 498 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 3: same thing I feed my family. Just this morning, I 499 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 3: went out and gave them some fresh chopped basil and 500 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 3: asparagus and strawberries because I'm consuming then. So it's kind 501 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:25,120 Speaker 3: of your circle of life. 502 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 2: Love that. 503 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: Also, the paintball advice, my older brother would have loved 504 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: growing up, because he would be like, I'm being healthy 505 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: by like tagging my sister with like nailing with the paintball. 506 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 3: Well, I have three sons, you know, I don't have 507 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 3: any There's no pink happening in my household, so I 508 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 3: have to adapt. 509 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 2: Fair enough, all right, Doctor Nicole Sapphire. I love you, 510 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 2: appreciate it. You're a busy woman. 511 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: I don't know how you do it all, but you 512 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,719 Speaker 1: do it all very well and graciously. 513 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 2: So appreciate you for coming on. 514 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 3: Thanks so much for having me, Lisa. 515 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 1: That was doctor Nicole Sapphire. Appreciate her for making the time. 516 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: Appreciate you guys at home for listening every Tuesday and Thursday, 517 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,959 Speaker 1: but you can listen throughout the week. I also want 518 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 1: to think John Cassio and my producer were putting the 519 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: show together until next time.