1 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to food Stuff. I'm Angeries and I'm 2 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: Lauren Focalbam and this is another cocktail hour. Today we're 3 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: talking about the Martini. And this is a very special 4 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: cocktail hour. Oh yeah, it's the first one. We were 5 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: actually having a cocktail while we're recording it. So cheers, y'all, 6 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 1: Cheers and cheers Dylan, Um, this is my first time 7 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: having Martini. How are you enjoying it? I actually really 8 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: like it. It's it's not what I expected. I got 9 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: an extra dirty um, which we'll talk about more, but 10 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: basically it means all of a yeah juice, Brian, Yeah, 11 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: and I really like it. I technically got a vesper. 12 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: I can also mention that in a moment. But yeah, 13 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: let's let's start this episode off because of the Martini 14 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: is a huge cultural icon in America. So let's start 15 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: off with some some some quote. Yes, and this is 16 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: one of my favorite things about um, the Martini, because 17 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: I did I didn't know much about it, to be honest, 18 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: and inspired so many quotes. There's so many great quotes 19 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: in this episode, so here are a few. Historian Bernard 20 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: Devoto described the Martini as the supreme American gift to 21 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: world culture. Satirist H. L. Mencken called it the only 22 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: American invention as perfect as the somnet. That is some 23 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: high phrase. A nineteen forties newspaper columnists wrote, more people 24 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: get their glasses broken and arrested and divorced on account 25 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: of Martinis than for any other reason. Dang could be true. Um, 26 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: and here's a poem, A martini poem by Ogden nationalist. Yes, 27 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: there is something about a martini, A tingle remarkably pleasant, 28 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: a yellow mellow martini. I wish that I had one 29 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: at present. There's something about a martini air the dying 30 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: and dancing begin. And to tell you, the truth is 31 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: not the verymouth. I think perhaps it's the gin. Thank you, Lauren, 32 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: thank you. But here this brings us to something we 33 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: should note. Oh, drink responsibly, y'all, especially when your drinks 34 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: have almost four ounces of liquor in them. Yes, yes, 35 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: please be responsible. Don't be breaking any glasses, are getting 36 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: divorces on account of martiniz now, please please do not 37 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: because it's it's partially the very muth, but it is 38 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: also definitely partially the gin. Yes, Nash was correct, So 39 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 1: the martini. What is it. What is it? According to 40 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: a bar like in Savannah, Georgia called Gin and Friends, 41 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: it is just about anything you can imagine with a 42 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: garnish of twigts. I actually really like that bar, but 43 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 1: I think you probably can get a traditional martini. There's 44 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: over a thousand different martinis I leave, maybe hundreds. I'm 45 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: probably exaggerating, uh pedantic, Lauren is She reacted very viscerally classically. 46 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,399 Speaker 1: The martini is a very specific thing. It's just gin 47 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: and dry white vermouth and a roughly six to one 48 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: ratio three ounces of gin and about half an ounce 49 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: of vermouth. You shake or stir this with ice and 50 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: then strain it into a glass, either with a twist 51 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: of lemon or an olive for garnish. At this most 52 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: simple iteration, it is a showcase for the gin and 53 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: the vermouth, and the drink will taste simultaneously sort of 54 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: clean and rich, with notes including herbal, piny, floral, and savory. 55 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: Would you say that's what you're experiencing right now? I am. 56 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: And Lauren got to see me order the martini moments ago, 57 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: and there's a look of panic on my face when 58 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: the bartender said the twist dirty olive and luckily I 59 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: made the correct, non stupid decision. I did not ask 60 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: for the twist. I asked for all of dirty, right, 61 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: which means together yes and I mean stupid, as in, 62 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: I'm sure the limon one is are the twist one 63 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: is also lovely. But I did not ask for all 64 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: three right, Yes, Okay, embarrassment avoided. Lowell Edmunds wrote about this, 65 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: this classic Martini. It's pleasure which is not voluptuous, but 66 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: a stringent can only be expressed by oxymoron, sensuous coldness, 67 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: opulent dryness, mysterious clarity, alluring purity. I love it because again, 68 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: that's one of those things. If you just read that 69 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: last bit, I would have no idea what you were 70 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: talking about, but I would want it part of it right. 71 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: This cocktail was the favorite of many famous people, from 72 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: Winston Churchill to Fdr Hemmingway all over him. I feel 73 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: like every cocktail was his favorite, depending on when you 74 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: ask whatever cocktail was in his hand. Hemming Way I 75 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: used the Martini as an insult in Across the River 76 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 1: and into the Trees when one character orders Montgomeryese, in 77 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:11,799 Speaker 1: other words, fifteen parts gin to one part vermou. Yeah. 78 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: The order was meant as a dig at Commander Montgomery, 79 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: who allegedly would not go into a battle without a 80 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: fifteen to one soldier advantage. The small amount of vermouth 81 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: was meant to symbolize his small amount of courage. Um, 82 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: I should keep that in mind if I ever want 83 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: to insult somebody, you can insult someone with a cocktail. 84 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: Perfect already have like a vague plan for revenge. Bakery 85 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: will revisit that in another episode. According to some sources, 86 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: FDR would host a daily Martini Hour in which he 87 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: made martiniz that were too heavy on the vermouth, like 88 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: two to one gin vermouth, which is a way that 89 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: some people drink them. But it's certainly heavier than the 90 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: than the norm. Right. Well, FDR apparently drink them this way, 91 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: and the White House Council was not a fan of 92 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 1: this preparation method, and one would hope surreptitiously, uh pour 93 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: it into the potted plat. Yes. Um. Then again, when 94 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: FDR served it up to Stalin in Stalin was the 95 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: first time Martini drinker. Khrushchev declared the drink as America's 96 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: lethal weapon. Oh. One of Julia Child's favorite drinks was 97 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 1: the reverse Martini. That's five to one vermouth to gin 98 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 1: the reverse martini, and people love getting up in arms 99 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: about that vermouth to liquor ratio. Supposedly Churchill said about it, 100 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: I would like to observe the vermouth from across the 101 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 1: room while I drink my martini. Or that one should 102 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: glance at the vermouth bottle briefly while pouring the juniper 103 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: distolate freely well he was British. Or possibly that you 104 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: should drink ice called gin while bowing in the general 105 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: direction of France. Or that you should hold the vermouth 106 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: bottle over the shaker and just let light shine through it. Oh, Churchill. 107 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 1: That first quote looking across the room at the vermouth 108 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: has also been attributed to Alfred Hitchcock. Some folks just 109 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: do a vermouth rinse instead of adding it to the 110 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: shaker like UTAs a quarter ounce or so of vermouth 111 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,239 Speaker 1: into the cocktail glass, twirl and then poured out before 112 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: straining in your your ice shaken or stirred gin. And 113 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: supposedly Lyndon B. Johnson preferred this version. But hey, y'all, 114 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: what the heck is vermouth? I had no idea we 115 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: did this. It's a Vermouth is a wine that has 116 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: been infused with various botanicals, specifically wormwood, also probably including saffron, coriander, camemel, 117 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: and or juniper, and then fortified with a little bit 118 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: of a neutral spirit like udaged brandy. And the dry 119 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: white version was created in France around eighteen hundred. This 120 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: is a definitely whole episode kind of territory. That's a 121 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: very brief ah yeah definition. And while we're defining things, 122 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: gin is a neutral spirit that is also infused infused 123 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: with botan goals, including juniper and a whole mess of 124 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: other herbs and spices. We talked about it in our 125 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: Gin and Tonic episode and also visited a local distillery 126 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: and like made a video and a batch of gin 127 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: about it. So so go go check those out if 128 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: you would like to learn more about gin. Some folks 129 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: do use a vodka instead of gin to make martiniz. 130 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: You can also add in a bit of olive brine 131 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: for that dirty martini, or a drop or two of bitter, 132 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: specifically orange bitters. My bartender slash chef friend Darryl makes 133 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 1: a version with a few drops of olive oil floated 134 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 1: on top instead of an olive garnish. And if you 135 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 1: add a cocktail onion instead of an olive, it's a gibson. 136 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: If you use both vodka and gin, add the vermouth 137 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: and then have a lemon twist, that's a vesper, Yeah, 138 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: which is what I'm drinking right now. Oh and that 139 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: teeny suffix. Oh yeah, there's there's billions of martinis that 140 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: you can order at places. Yeah, you may have noticed 141 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: this before. You can get a lot of drinks that 142 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: end in tiny Appletini is the first one that comes 143 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: to my mind because of the scrubs quote appalt, please 144 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: easy on the teen um. And this has nothing really 145 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: to do with the Martini the drink, and all to 146 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: do with a V shaped martini glass. Oh yeah, which 147 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: I'm going to get into in a minute. Yes, um. 148 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: And I also read Sex in the City helped inspire 149 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: a lot of teeny drinks. Yeah yeah, I mean, are 150 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: we drinking cosmos out of the Martini glass? It became 151 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: the whole thing. Okay, Okay, so that's the basics. But 152 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: let's talk about some history. Yeah, this is one of 153 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: those great ones. But first let's take a quick break 154 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: for a word from our sponsor, and we're back. Thank 155 00:09:53,040 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: you sponsor, okay, Martini history. Yeah, since two the combination 156 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: of gin and Vermouth has gone by the Martini, the Martini, 157 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: the Martini, the Martini, the Martineau, and the Martinez. And 158 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 1: these early versions were sweeter, more like Manhattan's that were 159 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 1: just made with gin instead of whiskey, so therefore including 160 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: bidders and sugar syrup and curasow. Though by the turn 161 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: of the twentieth century, the latter two ingredients, the sugar 162 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: syrup and curasow, had fallen by the wayside, and if 163 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: anything was to be added to that requisite gin in Vermouth, 164 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: it would be bidders and orange bidders to kind of 165 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: make up for that Carusou's absence. And as these names 166 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:41,719 Speaker 1: might indicate, multiple origin stories exist. Oh, it wouldn't be 167 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: a cocktail hour without it wouldn't very much. Reminds me 168 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:46,719 Speaker 1: of the margharita. I love how it's just we need 169 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: a name and that's who invented it, parafect. There you go, 170 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: end of episode. It's possible that more than one person 171 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: invented the same drink around the same time. A story 172 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: published in The New York Times in nineteen o four 173 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,439 Speaker 1: claimed the drink is the brainchild of a local judiciary 174 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: named Randolph Martin, but those who knew him well didn't 175 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 1: seem to agree. Champagne was this alcohol of choice, and 176 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: apparently he rarely strayed from it, so it's friends of 177 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: like Nope. In eighteen eighty four, New York Cocktail Guide 178 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: included a recipe for a Martinez, and because of this, 179 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: in the nineteen forties, people start theorizing that maybe the 180 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: drink came from Martinez, California. This woman gets really muddy, 181 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: but as the story goes, a gold miner, looking to 182 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: celebrate his findings, ordered the drink special. But whatever was 183 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: the drink special the bartender did not have, so he 184 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: whipped up something based on what he did have, which 185 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: happened to be gin, vermouth and a few extra things. 186 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: The bartender called it a Martinez, after the town. This 187 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: is the official story on the Martinez website, although I 188 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: read many alternate versions, including one the um the minor 189 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: he was actually celebrating. He wasn't celebrating at all. He 190 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: was out of money, coulifying gold was miserable, so it 191 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 1: was like, to fix me. Whatever you've got, yes, yes, 192 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: so take it with a grain of salt. There's a 193 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: Vermouth Martini pun in there, but I can't make it 194 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: right now, It's okay. San Francisco also lays claim to 195 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: the Martini, as does New York City. In eighteen sixty three, 196 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: an Italian Vermouth company was marketing one of its products 197 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: as a Martini. Um might recognize it. Martini and Rossi. 198 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: Vermouth still a very large player in the field. Another 199 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: story goes that after France left Syria and a Syrian 200 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: man with the last name Martini relocated to Paris and 201 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: opened a bar. At the time Martinis, if not in name, 202 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 1: the drink did already exist, but Martini the person's contribution 203 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 1: was the addition of an all of sort of an 204 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: homage to his home country where all of us our 205 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: big Problemt's Realist even compiled a neat almost conspiracy level 206 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: They're all connected timeline. It begins with a bartender named 207 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: Martini Diarmatagia making Martini at the Knickerbucker Hotel in New 208 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: York for one John D. Rockefeller, Okay, who then in 209 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: turn made it for his buddies on Wall Street. But 210 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: then Rockefeller's son, John Jr. Helped make prohibition happen. But 211 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: then prohibition was a failure, and he was instrumental in 212 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: reversing it. And then he supervised the opening of a 213 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: place that ended up serving a lot of Martinis, the 214 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: Rainbow Room, and eventually the Rainbow Room was the scene 215 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: of the Martini's revival in the nineteen eighties. Wow, Yeah, 216 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: that's intense, It is right, It's true, that's very intense. 217 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: But who knows, not us at any rate up through prohibition. 218 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: You know, for the first four decades or so of 219 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: the Martini's history, the drink was not served in the 220 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 1: Martini glass because it hadn't been invented yet makes sense. 221 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: Probably the rounder slightly more forgiving champagne coup would have 222 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: been used, as it was for many drinks served up 223 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: at the time, up as opposed to on the rocks. Uh. 224 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: In the twenties, though, at the height of Art Deco, 225 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: someone somewhere made that coupe angular, you know, a cone 226 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: rather than a semi sphere. It may have made its 227 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: official debut at the Paris Exhibition. By the nineteen thirties, 228 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: this glass design was firmly associated with the Martini cocktail, 229 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: a clean design for a clean drink. And meanwhile, prohibition 230 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: had made gin America's darling liquor, as it was much 231 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: easier to doope than whiskey, which gets its flavor from aging. 232 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: Kind of pour juniper oil into some booze base and 233 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, it's sort of like basung. An article 234 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: from American Heritage Magazine suggests that the Martini's simplicity and 235 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: its glasses design made it a symbol of the modern 236 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: American urbanite, a and I quote defiant retort to Bible 237 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: Belt intolerance and Victorian repression. That is quite a lot 238 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: to put on a glass that's heavy, right for yeah, 239 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: for a glass in a cocktail. By the nies and fifties, 240 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: with the rise of mid century modern design, the lip 241 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: of that Martini glass would grow wider and the stem longer, 242 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: and through industrialization, this glassware became available for home use 243 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: for the growing middle class. So the Martini and its glass, 244 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: and partially through the enthusiasm of folks like f DR, 245 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: became symbols of power and modernity. A New York Times 246 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: article in called it the symbol of our civilization and 247 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: if you're familiar with the Dave Brubeck protect saxophonist Paul 248 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: Desmond would later say that in developing their sound quote, 249 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: I think I had it in the back of my 250 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: mind that I wanted to sound like a dry Martini. Wow. 251 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: Uh yeah. I have to say that I didn't know 252 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: much about Martiniz, but I did always have that association 253 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: with the glass. Is it being kind of this rich 254 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: city Yeah yeah, wealthy, yeah, urbane yeah, and which is 255 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: fascinating because I didn't know much about it, but that's 256 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: still cultural renue. Yeah. Uh yeah. Vodka started really gaining 257 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: popularity in the fifties. At the beginning of the decade, 258 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: about five hundred thousand cases were sold, but by nineteen 259 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: fifty five that number skyrocketed to five million cases. It 260 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: passed Gin in terms of sales numbers in the US 261 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty seven and whiskey in nineteen seventy six. 262 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: The first vodka Martiniz went by the name Kangaroo Cocktail, 263 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: but by nineteen five, d One, with the publication of 264 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: this really posh like Cocktails and Nude Photos cocktail guide 265 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: called Bottoms Up and Andy just did the biggest eye roll. Uh. 266 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: The Kangaroo Cocktail was sort of officially unofficially rebranded the 267 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: vodka Martini Rights and James Bond was instrumental in the 268 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: popularity of the Vodka Martini. The first time it appeared 269 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 1: in the James Bond universe was in the nifty six 270 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: Diamonds Are Forever the film, not the book. Okay, Yes, 271 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: his first instruction of shaking not stood. I used to 272 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: have a really good Sean Connery impression, but I doubt anymore. 273 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: Actually I probably never did, but I thought I did anyway, 274 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 1: whatever the case. Um came two years later in The 275 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: Doctor No. And by the nineteen seventies, Vodka Martinez had 276 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,479 Speaker 1: begun to outsell Jin Martinez kind of parallel with vodka 277 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: to Jin sales in general. And this brings us to 278 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: Martini politics. Martini politics, I know, um, the Three Martini 279 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: Lunch and class warfare. Oh yeah, this is this is 280 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: actually huge and kind of very serious. It really is. Um. 281 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: During the nineteen fifties and sixties, the mad Men era 282 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: executives and businessmen took part in this thing called the 283 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: Three Martini Lunch, which is what it sounds like. The 284 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: working class did not like this, and the three Martini 285 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: Lunch was it was attacked right off and the deductions 286 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: it was seen as deductions for the rich. President John F. 287 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: Kennedy took the first real political swife at the three 288 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 1: Martini lunch in the sixties, but the real fighting got 289 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: started in nineteen seventy two with George McGovern. He said, 290 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 1: there's something fundamentally wrong with the tax system when it 291 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: allows a corporate executive to deduct his twenty dollar Martini 292 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: lunch while a working man cannot deduct the ice of 293 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: his bologna sandwich. Jimmy Carter took up the mantle in 294 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy six, decrying the fact that the American working 295 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: class was having to pay for the three Martini lunch, 296 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: to which is an opponent for the nineteen seventies six 297 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: presidential election, replied much later, um the three Martini lunch 298 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: is the epitome of American efficiency. Where else can you 299 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: get an earful, a belly full, and a snootful. At 300 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: the same time, m popular culture was swaying towards Carter's interpretation, 301 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: though an article in Esquire in nineteen seventy three called 302 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: the martini a bitter, medicinal tasting beverage that represented everything 303 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: from phony bourgeois values and social snobbery to jaded alcoholism 304 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 1: and latent masochism. Who uh And it was actually President 305 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: Reagan that mostly did away with the three martini lunch 306 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: in nineteen six, and then President Clinton put the final 307 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: nail in that coffin, and um, the detractors mockingly called 308 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 1: it the two Martini lunches, like you can't handle your alcohol, 309 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: You're getting spot you couldn't take where the three martinis? Yeah? 310 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 1: Oh weird, weird, I'm like thick burn question marks behind it. Meanwhile, 311 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 1: by then, uh, the nineties bizarre be sour mixed cocktail 312 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: culture was in full swing, and everything about drinking was 313 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: bigger and sweeter and more mass produced. And amidst all this, 314 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: the Martini glass had not lost its its feel of 315 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: sleek sophistication. So the glass just got bigger and everything 316 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 1: got served in it, especially these sweet fruity drinks that 317 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,719 Speaker 1: were meant to appeal to women with their shoulder pads 318 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: as big as their ambitions. See ladies, you really can 319 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: have it all. This association would stick through the next 320 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: couple of decades. Think of that cosmo from Sex in 321 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: the City with many bars martini menus, not including a 322 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: whiff of the actual Martini cocktail. Until the craft cocktail 323 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 1: movement of the twenty teens brought it back. Yeah, and 324 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,959 Speaker 1: this I didn't know about any of this, but I 325 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: did see, Um, there's a restaurant. It might be in Savannah, 326 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: but it has a three martini lunch on it. And 327 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: I thought it was just a weird, like yeah, yeah, 328 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: like a gimmick from that restaurant. And when I was 329 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 1: reading this, realization was just dawning on my face. Oh yeah, Yeah, 330 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 1: there's an episode of Bad Men where the multiple martini 331 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: lunch plays a very big factor and ends poorly for 332 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: everyone involved, as I imagine it would, as I imagine 333 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: it would. That brings us to now and to some science. Yes, 334 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 1: but first a quick break for a word from our sponsor, 335 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 1: and we're back. Thank you sponsor, Yes, thank you. So 336 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: this is our This is our kind of science and 337 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: ephemera section, because I have I have a few important notes, 338 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: not all of them are purely scientific, but okay, first, 339 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: one important note about vermouth. Okay, although being fortified, an 340 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: open bottle of vermouth will last longer than an open 341 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 1: bottle of regular wine. Due to that fortification, it will 342 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: still go off after a couple of months. Yeah, so 343 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 1: you know, don't. Don't just keep a half used bottle 344 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: of vermouth sitting on your bar. At the very least, 345 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 1: keep your opened bottle in the fridge for extra staying power, 346 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: and use it within like three to four months. It's 347 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: really great for cooking as well as in cocktails, or 348 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: even by itself on the rocks if you get a 349 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: good enough one. So I promise it's not at all 350 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: difficult to go through. Use it up. It'll be delicious. 351 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: Deglaze all of your pants with it. You'll thank me later. Uh, 352 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 1: I do have a slight kill Joy corner for you today. 353 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 1: The witty and slightly blue quatrain about Martini's that is 354 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: often attributed to Dorothy Parker was almost certainly not said 355 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 1: or written by Dorothy Parker. The quatrain goes, I like 356 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: to have a Martini to at the very most, after three, 357 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: I'm under the table. After four, I'm under my host, 358 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: which I think really has to be said in that 359 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: in that Transatlantic accent, Dorothy Parker had grown so famous 360 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 1: for quips that misattribution is pretty common, and this appears. 361 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: This quatrain appears who have originated in the University of 362 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: Virginia's undergrad Humor magazine. The Harlequin not from Parker, although 363 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 1: that's no reason to love her, or Martini's or responsible 364 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 1: drinking any less. For the record, Dorothy Parker preferred Scotch. 365 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 1: Gotch is lovely. It is good to know. Also, one 366 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: last bit of ephemera. I read this article in Imbibe magazine. 367 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: It was written by one Wayne Curtis. He was writing 368 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 1: about the Martini glass, and it contains such a sick 369 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 1: burn that I wanted to share it. The Martini glass 370 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: is one of those objects appealing in concept but disappointing 371 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 1: in reality, member of a category that includes cotton candy 372 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: and the films of Adam Sandler. Oh ah, that's pretty harsh. 373 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: I laughed out loud in my house and like startled 374 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: my cats. So yeah, I wanted to share it. I 375 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: happened also to agree on all accounts. Um. Yeah. Then again, 376 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 1: I'm the guy who drinks everything out of jam jars 377 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 1: because I cannot be trusted with stemware. I'm the same, 378 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: although I have broken several stemless glasses as well, so 379 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: clearly I'm just stup plastics. Here you go, how glassy 380 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: everything in a solo cap. That's me. This brings us 381 00:24:54,840 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 1: to a question that I've wondered about. Yeah, uh, shaken 382 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: our stirred. Okay, this is today's science portion, and there 383 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: is science to shaken versus stirred, because Okay, the purpose 384 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: of shaking a cocktail with ice is a to chill 385 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 1: the drink and b to to mix in lighter ingredients 386 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 1: like your your your gin, your vodka, you're whiskey, with 387 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: things that are less easily mixed, like heavy sweet liqueurs 388 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: or simple syrup or stuff like eggs. If all your 389 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: ingredients are lighter, as with a martini, which is just 390 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 1: fortified wine and gin, shaking is unnecessary at best. Furthermore, 391 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: shaking a cocktail with ice in a shaker will chip 392 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 1: little bits of ice into the drink, which melt down quickly, 393 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 1: which water the drink down and also adds in tiny 394 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 1: little air bubbles. And this might well be what you're 395 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: going for with some cocktails, but bartenders will tell you 396 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: that with a martini it can ruin the silky mouth 397 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: feel that you're looking for from the liquor. Stirring with ice, 398 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: on the other hand, chills the drink a little bit 399 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: less than you get with shaking, but it does so 400 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: without agitating the ingredients so much and does not chip 401 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: the ice, so less water gets into your cocktail. According 402 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: to m I T research scientist Shannon Stewart, the air 403 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: that you expose the ingredients to during shaking can ruin 404 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: some of the best scent notes of gin, the volatile 405 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: alcohols that make juniper and coriander taste and smell crisp. Yeah, 406 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 1: those are top notes, so they'll start to dissipate during shaking, 407 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: which can leave your drink tasting and smelling a little 408 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 1: bit dull. Therefore, the best way to mix a gin 409 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: martini is definitely by stirring. Vodka martinis are probably okay 410 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 1: either way. They don't they don't have those botanicals, so 411 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: you're not dealing with a loss of top notes the 412 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 1: way the way that you would with gin. Though, if 413 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: you are using a really good for mouth, you might 414 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 1: want to stir stir your vodka martini too, Okay. Yeah, 415 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: good to know. Serving your martini's in glassware street from 416 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: the freezer will help offset the coldness lost by stirring 417 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: instead of shaking. Yeah, so that's recommended either way. Yes. Originally, Lauren, 418 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 1: she had quite the plan for martini testing during this episode, 419 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: she wanted to get some martini glasses, put them in 420 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: the freezer, then go obtain our martini cocktails, bring them back, 421 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: put them in the chilled glasses. I was very impressed, Lauren. 422 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: We happen to work in a building that has a 423 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 1: lovely food court downstairs, including a few restaurants that will 424 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: allow you to take away your cocktails in a plastic 425 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: cup as long as you're not leaving the building, which 426 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: is what we've done. Thank you the Mercury, Yes, thank you. 427 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: They actually have helped this out on several occasions. They 428 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: certainly have. Yeah, they're They're lovely. So that's our Martini episode. 429 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 1: And um, I hope you enjoyed learning about it as 430 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: much as I did, because I, like I said, I 431 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: didn't know much about it, and I was very surprised. Yeah, yeah, 432 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: I knew a little bit about it, Like I I 433 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 1: knew enough, Like I have opinions, one of those pedantic 434 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: Lauren things, and and I don't have a kill Joy 435 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 1: Corner level of alliteration phrase to attach to this, but 436 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: I'm working towards it because I have so many pedantic opinions. 437 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: And yes, vodka martini is not a martini A Martini's 438 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: gin and vermouth. We will come up with a title 439 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: for this, Lauren, I believe. But that's okay if you 440 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: if you like vodka Martini's, go for it. Oh sure, 441 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: it's not a Partini. Oh, Lauren always getting us in 442 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: trouble with those listeners and speaking up. This brings us 443 00:28:54,960 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: to listen. Yeah, I think we should mix it up 444 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: this time, Lauren. I think you should go first. Oh 445 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: my goodness. Okay. Well, Karen wrote in on Facebook, y'all 446 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: were pretty close on the physics behind the corona rita. 447 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: It's kind of like when you hold your finger over 448 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: the end of a straw with liquid in it. The 449 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: margharita itself is open to atmospheric pressure about fifteen pounds 450 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: per square inch, while the corona in the bottle is not. 451 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: If the surface area of the margharita is about eight 452 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: square inches, after accounting for the area taken up by 453 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: the corona bottle, you've got about a hundred and twenty 454 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: pounds of force keeping the corona in. If you could 455 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: punch a hole in the bottom end of the bottle, 456 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: the upside down part, all the beer would flow out 457 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: freely into the glass. There. That's literally the most I've 458 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: used of what I learned while getting a water resources 459 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: engineering degree since graduating. Well, thank you very much, yes, 460 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: because I love all of this science of the corona 461 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: rita ah and that's a we have to go get 462 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: Lauren one of those because she has not had one. Yeah, 463 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: it's on our list, it is. Yes, Caitlin wrote, I 464 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: just listened to your takeout history episode and I was 465 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: super interested to hear what y'all have to say about 466 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: grocery delivery. I work as an independent contractor for Shipped 467 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: Make sure you pronounced the P grocery delivery company that 468 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: was recently purchased by Target, but has partnerships with H. E. B. Kroger, Publix, 469 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: and a few others in mostly South and Southeastern states. 470 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: What Lauren said about the possibly instat carts or more 471 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: possibly shipped shopper that is, that is a tricky one 472 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: to say. Chatting with the cashier at Publix is super common. Managers, 473 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: stockers and cashiers often see us running around the stores 474 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: multiple times a day loading our carts with customer items 475 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: for delivery, and they love to chat with us as 476 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: we work. Shipped shoppers cannot use coupons for our orders. 477 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: Since the customer is purchasing their item online through a 478 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: third party, there is a small price in increase, and 479 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: using in store coupons would have no effect on actual 480 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: customer savings. The only thing it does affect is the 481 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: shopper pay as we are paid a percentage of the 482 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: total once we check out in store. Nonetheless, it's a 483 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: great service being used by parents and even even elderly 484 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: ones who might not be able to leave the home. 485 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: With the occasional delivery to offices, daycares and nursing homes. 486 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: You can spot a shipped shopper by the bright green 487 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: shirt or insulated bags that have a spaceship on them. 488 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: Feel free to say hello and ask questions. Here's a 489 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: referral code to anyone who wants to give ship to 490 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: try shipped stuff. Yeah, I'm very happy to hear from 491 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: someone who works in this because, as we discussed in 492 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: that episode, it's an interesting it's an interesting social dynamic. Yeah. 493 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: I was very kind of tickled by hearing the conversation 494 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: between the cashier and the delivery person, So thank you 495 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: to Caitlin for writing in. Yeah, by the way, the 496 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: spelling for that not that there are advertising partner although hey, 497 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: get your people in touch with our people. Is s 498 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: H I P T S t U F F yes 499 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: shipped stuff yea, thank you, Lauren. That is very good 500 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: points people cannot see what I can see. Oh hypothetically, 501 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, don't freak me out. I've been drinking 502 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: a martini. Here too many horror movies. That is true. 503 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: I stayed up very late. Um. Thanks to both of 504 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: them for writing to us. You two can do so. 505 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: Our email is food Stuff at Asda works dot com. 506 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: We're also on social media. You can find us on 507 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: Facebook and Twitter at food Stuff hs W stands for 508 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: how Stuff Works, and on Instagram at food Stuff. We 509 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: hope to hear from you. Thank you to our amazing 510 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: producer Dylan Fagan, who does not like gin good to know. 511 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 1: Thanks to you for listening, and we hope that lots 512 00:32:53,760 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 1: more good things are coming your way. M