WEBVTT - Concert Attack Suspects Charged & Bonds Are Back...Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. This is the Bloomberg

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<v Speaker 1>you listen. It's Monday, the twenty fifth of March in London.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Caroline HEPKEA coming up today. As the deathtop from

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<v Speaker 1>the Moscow concert hall attack continues to rise, Putin makes

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<v Speaker 1>furious claims of Ukrainian involvement. Once bitten twice, not so

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<v Speaker 1>shy global bond traders once again load up on rate

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<v Speaker 1>cut wages and deadline day for Donald Trump, the presidential

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<v Speaker 1>contender faces having his assets seized unless he posts a

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<v Speaker 1>court bond worth more than half a billion dollars. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>start with a roundup of our top stories. Russia has

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<v Speaker 1>charged four men in connection with the Moscow concert hall

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<v Speaker 1>terrorist attack, in which at least one hundred and thirty

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<v Speaker 1>seven people were killed. The men had a number of

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<v Speaker 1>viable of injuries and one needed treatment during the heat hearing.

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<v Speaker 1>The court ordered that all four be detained until the

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<v Speaker 1>trial in May. Islamic State has taken responsibility for the

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<v Speaker 1>attack and posted footage of the assault, but Vladimir Putin

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<v Speaker 1>and other officials have made vague claims of Ukrainian involvement.

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<v Speaker 1>That is something that Vladimir Zelenski has strenuously denied.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just it's obvious that both Putin and others are

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<v Speaker 2>trying to shoot responsibility on someone else. They've already been

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<v Speaker 2>blowing up houses, shootings and explosions, and they always blame others.

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<v Speaker 1>The Ukrainian President's comments, spoken there by a translator, come

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<v Speaker 1>amid concerns that Putin could use the attack to justify

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<v Speaker 1>a new mass mobilization of troops for the ongoing invasion

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<v Speaker 1>of the country. On Friday, Russia unleashed the biggest missile

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<v Speaker 1>and drone assault on Ukraine so far this year. French

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<v Speaker 1>authorities have raised their security alert level to the maximum

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<v Speaker 1>following the deadly attack on Friday in Moscow. The Prime

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<v Speaker 1>Minister Gabrielle Attal said that the increased country wide awareness

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<v Speaker 1>level was justified given the quote Islamic states claim that

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<v Speaker 1>it was responsible for the attack and the threats weighing

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<v Speaker 1>on our country. Attal made the announcement in a tweet

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<v Speaker 1>on Sunday evening, following a Defense and Security Council meeting

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<v Speaker 1>organized by President Immanu and Maco. At the Elise Palace. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>in markets, bond traders are once again betting that the

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<v Speaker 1>Third ECB and Bank of England are close to cutting rates.

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<v Speaker 1>After entering the year banking on March, rates, traders are

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<v Speaker 1>now leaning towards June as the start of the easing cycle.

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<v Speaker 1>But after previous bets that central banks would be swift

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<v Speaker 1>to loosen monetary policy backfired, consensus is now building that

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<v Speaker 1>this time things are different. Matthew A. Dixon is the

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<v Speaker 1>head of fixed income strategy at Bank of America. He

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<v Speaker 1>says that we still haven't see the full effects of

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<v Speaker 1>rate hikes.

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<v Speaker 3>It takes twelve to twenty four months for rate hikes

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<v Speaker 3>to actually impact the economy. So if you're looking at

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<v Speaker 3>a lagging economic intoget inflation and the rate leg come

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<v Speaker 3>back and talk to me first half for twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 3>five to the back half of twenty twenty five and

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<v Speaker 3>tell me if rate hikes haven't worked. So they've gotten

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<v Speaker 3>the soft slash, no landing, they're going to continue to

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<v Speaker 3>play for that. With one hundred and seventy million people

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<v Speaker 3>in the labor force, every one percent increasing employment, what's

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<v Speaker 3>about too many people out of work?

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<v Speaker 1>It's worth playing for Matthew Ditchalk making the case for

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<v Speaker 1>rate cuts to come.

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<v Speaker 4>There.

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<v Speaker 1>The prospect of lower rates is particularly boosting the allure

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<v Speaker 1>of shorter data obligations, which stand to gain the most

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<v Speaker 1>as rate cut speculation continues to build. Now the UK

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<v Speaker 1>chances of Jeremy Hunt has pledged to maintain Britain's triple

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<v Speaker 1>lock state pension if his party wins the next election.

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<v Speaker 1>The commitment means that the state benefit would continue to

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<v Speaker 1>rise by the highest of either inflation averagjournings or two

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<v Speaker 1>and a half percent annually. Now, he told the BBC's

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<v Speaker 1>Lawercusbo that he is confident that the government can grow

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<v Speaker 1>the economy enough to pay for this.

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<v Speaker 5>That is an expensive commitment and you can only and

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<v Speaker 5>indeed and you can only make that commitment if you're

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<v Speaker 5>confident that you're going to deliver the economic growth that's

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<v Speaker 5>going to pay for it. What we saw in the

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<v Speaker 5>budget was because we have a plan for growth, the

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<v Speaker 5>OBI say that we will get back to two percent

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<v Speaker 5>ish growth over the next day to speak. That means that

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<v Speaker 5>we can start to make that very important.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was the chaser Jeremy Hunt and now his

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<v Speaker 1>comments come as the Labour party also reaffirmed its commitment

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<v Speaker 1>to the triple lock. The Institute for Fiscal Studies, though,

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<v Speaker 1>has calculated that the state pension cost the government eleven

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<v Speaker 1>billion pounds a year more than had it risen in

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<v Speaker 1>line with either inflation or earnings since twenty ten. Now

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<v Speaker 1>to Ireland, where the Education Minister Simon Harris has been

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<v Speaker 1>named leader of his party Phinogoyl, making him Prime Minister elect.

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<v Speaker 1>The move comes after previous leader and Premier Lea Varadkar

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<v Speaker 1>announced his intention to resign last week. Now Harris stood

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<v Speaker 1>uncontested for the leader spot and used his first speech

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<v Speaker 1>to emphasize a commitment to cooperation in Ireland and beyond.

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<v Speaker 4>We will always be a party that will work with

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<v Speaker 4>everybody across this island of Ireland to embed peace and

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<v Speaker 4>prosperity and to make sure we harness the untapped potential

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<v Speaker 4>of the all Ireland economy. We will always support democracy

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<v Speaker 4>and freedom and we condemn onreservedly the horrific illegal invasion

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<v Speaker 4>of Ukraine by Putin and we stand by Ukraine always.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the Phinnogoyl leader Simon Harris speaking there. It's

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<v Speaker 1>expected that Harris will be formally voted in as t Shirk,

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<v Speaker 1>the Prime Minister in Ireland, on the ninth of April,

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<v Speaker 1>when Parliament returns after its Easter break. Today's deadline, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see Donald Trump either have to post a bond to

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<v Speaker 1>cover a four hundred and fifty four million dollar civil

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<v Speaker 1>forward verdict or risk the seizure of some of his assets.

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<v Speaker 1>The former president says he has almost five hundred million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars in cash, but would need closer to a billion

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<v Speaker 1>dollars in reserves to cover the amount and also retain

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<v Speaker 1>enough cash to run his real estate company. The deadline

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<v Speaker 1>coincides with Trump's appearance in a Manhattan court for a

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<v Speaker 1>hearing related to accusations that he falsified business records before

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty sixteen election. And those are today's top stories

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<v Speaker 1>for you. Now, let's talk a little bit more about

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<v Speaker 1>Russia holding a national day of mourning on Sunday after

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<v Speaker 1>the terrorist attack that killed at least one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>thirty seven people in Moscow. Four men have now been

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<v Speaker 1>charged with terrorism. Joining me this morning is Tony Halpin. Tony,

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<v Speaker 1>good morning. You lead our economics and government coverage in

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<v Speaker 1>Russia and the wider region. Still a lot of unknowns

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<v Speaker 1>does seem that the evidence points towards the attack being

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<v Speaker 1>carried out by Islamic State.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, good morning. Certainly Islamic State have claimed it. They've

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<v Speaker 6>published videos showing what they say are the four men

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<v Speaker 6>who were carrying out the attack. Putin, as you mentioned, though,

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<v Speaker 6>continues to point toward Ukraine, even though they are unable

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<v Speaker 6>to provide any evidence showing that they alleged that the

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<v Speaker 6>four attackers who were detained were on their way to Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 6>Russia itself, of course, is deeply in shock and people

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<v Speaker 6>are really reflecting that it harks back to a period

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<v Speaker 6>in the early two thousands when terrorist attacks were frequent

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<v Speaker 6>and cause real alarm.

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<v Speaker 1>The narrative from the Kremlin, though, Tony, is that the

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<v Speaker 1>attack came from Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, and there are probably two reasons for that.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean.

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<v Speaker 6>The first is, in any normal country, a massacre of

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<v Speaker 6>this size would immediately raise questions about the competence of

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<v Speaker 6>the security services and there be political demands for to

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<v Speaker 6>role in the leadership. But nothing of that sort is

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<v Speaker 6>happening in Russia. Because put In, even though he dismissed

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<v Speaker 6>warnings of a terrorist attack just a few days before

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<v Speaker 6>it actually took place, doesn't, of course, want to hold

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<v Speaker 6>the FSB accountable for these failures, and it serves the

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<v Speaker 6>Russian state's purpose to try and blame things on Ukraine

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<v Speaker 6>because they're desperately trying to maintain support for the war,

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<v Speaker 6>and that's raising questions about what they might be planning next.

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<v Speaker 1>In terms of the motivation behind the attack, then, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean the US intelligence had warned about this, right, yes, they.

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<v Speaker 6>Gave quite a specific warning at the seventh of March,

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<v Speaker 6>saying that there was a risk of terrorist attacks on

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<v Speaker 6>large scale gatherings, including concerts, and put it on Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 6>met with top Federal Security Service officials and publicly dismissed

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<v Speaker 6>that warning as some sort of American propaganda designed to

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<v Speaker 6>frighten and divide Russian society. So that's pretty embarrassing for

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<v Speaker 6>the Russian leader. Islamic State, of course, has targeted Russia

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<v Speaker 6>in the past, and particularly since Russia went into Syria

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<v Speaker 6>in twenty fifteen in support of Kasha Alaha forces in

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<v Speaker 6>that country civil war, So it is not.

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<v Speaker 7>A surprise that Islamic State has claimed.

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<v Speaker 6>It, but we still don't know if they're actually fully responsible.

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<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile, Sunday also saw the third major Russian attack against

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<v Speaker 1>Ukraine in four days. So what actually about the course

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<v Speaker 1>of Russia's war in Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, since Britin was re elected last Sunday, Russia has

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<v Speaker 6>definitely stepped up air attacks on Ukraine, targeting energy infrastructure,

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<v Speaker 6>in particular on Sunday. In fact of Russian missile briefly

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<v Speaker 6>crossed into Poland and that paused Polish authorities to protest

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<v Speaker 6>to Russia and to no FI NATO allies. Ukraine has

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<v Speaker 6>been striking back as well. It struck two Russian ships

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<v Speaker 6>off Crimea on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 7>So there's a general.

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<v Speaker 6>Intensification of missile attacks even as there's not much change

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<v Speaker 6>on the ground in the war.

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<v Speaker 1>Tony also, just lastly, what is the mood done in

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<v Speaker 1>Russia and in Moscow?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, people are in shock.

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<v Speaker 6>This is the biggest attack and loss of life in

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<v Speaker 6>Moscow since two thousand and two. Many people have grown

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<v Speaker 6>up believing that this sort of terrorist attack was part

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<v Speaker 6>of their past, and now suddenly it's returned to their

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<v Speaker 6>presence and it's created a great deal of in security

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<v Speaker 6>and distress.

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<v Speaker 7>The city is in.

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<v Speaker 6>Mourning and the country is in mourning, and people are

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<v Speaker 6>really trying to process what's happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Halpin, thank you so much for being with us

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<v Speaker 1>this morning. That Tony Halpin leads our economics and government

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<v Speaker 1>coverage of Russia and the wider region. Now, as we

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<v Speaker 1>heard last week, the Federal Reserve and key global peers

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<v Speaker 1>finally appears set to begin reducing interest rates as soon

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<v Speaker 1>as June. So let's move on to talk about bond

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<v Speaker 1>traders who have started to cautiously begin reloading wages that

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<v Speaker 1>actually burned them only a few weeks ago. So have

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<v Speaker 1>they got it right this time around? Johnny Snow to

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<v Speaker 1>discuss is Bloomberg's FFX rashist Dave Finity, Good morning. This

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<v Speaker 1>really stood out to me in the piece. Jim Reed,

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<v Speaker 1>Deutsche Bank's global head of economic research, reckons that markets

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<v Speaker 1>have pivoted towards Dubvish policy seven times in this cycle,

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<v Speaker 1>and on at least six previous occasions. The outcomes have

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<v Speaker 1>actually been hawkish. So it's not been a very good record.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, it's certainly a very tough trade. Indeed, I mean

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<v Speaker 8>the markets have been looking well, expecting or hoping, however

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<v Speaker 8>you want to view it, for the Federal Reserve and

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<v Speaker 8>other central banks to cut rates as inflation as is

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<v Speaker 8>seen to be slowing, and obviously when you think I

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<v Speaker 8>like to last year, there was obviously worries were a

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<v Speaker 8>session which hasn't materialized yet, but there was expectations of

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<v Speaker 8>that and based of that, markets were going okay, fed

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<v Speaker 8>other central banks, you will be cutting rates now as

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<v Speaker 8>we know that didn't turn out the case.

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<v Speaker 7>And what actually has happened.

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<v Speaker 8>Is inflation's pre nstking them they've expected, and in economy

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<v Speaker 8>has actually been growing more than expected. As a result

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<v Speaker 8>of that, yields have stayed high and pushed higher than expected.

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<v Speaker 8>So every time there's been a dipping yields because the

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<v Speaker 8>market's way forward looking, so it's quite happy to run

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<v Speaker 8>with this idea. As soon as there are dipping yields,

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<v Speaker 8>it goes down, down, down, Then reality, shall we say,

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<v Speaker 8>sets in and the treasury is pushed back up. So

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<v Speaker 8>they keep losing on these bets that yours will go

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<v Speaker 8>lower this time though, particularly someone like the Swiss National

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<v Speaker 8>Bank last week which cut rates, they're thinking maybe this

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<v Speaker 8>is finally the time.

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<v Speaker 7>They're right.

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<v Speaker 8>Obviously, we'll have to see other data comes out, because

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<v Speaker 8>it isn't worry if the data does come out, continue

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<v Speaker 8>to be elevated and so strong growth stick inflation. Then

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<v Speaker 8>the question is how much those central banks actually need

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<v Speaker 8>to cut rates.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, what prompted trade is to jump the gun a

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<v Speaker 1>few weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 8>Then again, it's all expectations of what you think is

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<v Speaker 8>going to happen any week data, particularly if it's inflation

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<v Speaker 8>data or week growth data, that will get the market excited,

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<v Speaker 8>going okay, this is the start.

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<v Speaker 7>Something a trend that is going to happen.

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<v Speaker 8>And unfortunately what's happened is the expectations you've men are

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<v Speaker 8>going too this year. They literally thought there'll be a

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<v Speaker 8>seventy seven per cent chance in mid January of the

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<v Speaker 8>Federals are cutting rates in March. Now we know obviously

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<v Speaker 8>that didn't happen. And the reason being is obviously that

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<v Speaker 8>inflation data, whether it be the CPI measure or the

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<v Speaker 8>Fed Federals preferred the shore of course personal consumption Expension index,

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<v Speaker 8>they actually remain elevated and actually upticked, which is what

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<v Speaker 8>the market did not want. And therefore markets dial back

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<v Speaker 8>expectations for freight cuts and that's where US shields go.

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<v Speaker 8>So again the idea of US feels pushing lower got

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<v Speaker 8>beaten up.

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<v Speaker 7>One more time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, so, then where do you think the major

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<v Speaker 1>action in the market is right now?

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<v Speaker 8>I think in terms of yours the main if you

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<v Speaker 8>look at FX, it's very sort of sideways based.

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<v Speaker 7>If you look at implied volutility very low.

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<v Speaker 8>So really the markets aren't looking too much at the

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<v Speaker 8>FX side equation. Obviously, we want to see what Banka

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<v Speaker 8>Japan does. Does it intervene in the markets to prop

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<v Speaker 8>up the end. If so, you may see some volatility there,

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<v Speaker 8>But the market really still looking towards rates as the

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<v Speaker 8>more active trades we say that will give them the

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<v Speaker 8>bigger bang for the buck. Of course, the catches that

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<v Speaker 8>been burned how many times? I think the the US

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<v Speaker 8>core PC data, which again is the Federal reserves A

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<v Speaker 8>third measure inflation that comes out again this week, the

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<v Speaker 8>monthly data does if that stays elevated, then it raises

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<v Speaker 8>the question yet again, Well, the Fed signal three dots

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<v Speaker 8>sorry threeweight cuts in its dot plot should it actually

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<v Speaker 8>be two? Which't is not good for the trade that

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<v Speaker 8>years go lower. Having said that, if that data comes

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<v Speaker 8>in weak, then that will empower the bond balls to say, yes,

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<v Speaker 8>finally inflation is under control.

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<v Speaker 7>The path it has been broken, and you're more.

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<v Speaker 8>Like see in the front run them, so you'll see

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<v Speaker 8>treasury is more like being bid very very quickly into

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<v Speaker 8>this idea that finally yields are headed lower.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean it's a bit tricky, isn't it, Because

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<v Speaker 1>that core PCE number, the Personal Consumption Expenditures Index, which

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<v Speaker 1>is seen as rising by zero point three percent. That

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<v Speaker 1>data comes out on Friday. You've also got the Eurozone

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<v Speaker 1>in the Japanese inflation data, and it comes out again

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<v Speaker 1>on what is a holiday in a lot of countries,

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<v Speaker 1>on Good Friday, and then you've got Easter Monday, where

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of markets are also closed. So do you

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<v Speaker 1>think that could be tricky in terms of market timing.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, definitely.

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<v Speaker 8>And it's just ironic the way it turned out, because

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<v Speaker 8>you're going to have thin liquidity on those days because

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<v Speaker 8>of the holidays, and a lot of traders will be off,

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<v Speaker 8>a lot of markets be closed, so thin liquidity will

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<v Speaker 8>more than exacerbate the move in whichever direction it goes.

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<v Speaker 8>As you said, the inflation data is supposed to come

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<v Speaker 8>out quite high, and it's quite solitary.

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<v Speaker 7>We say a point three percent month over.

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<v Speaker 8>A month, which is not really consistent with the fence

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<v Speaker 8>target of two percent and the hero of you have

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<v Speaker 8>at two point eight again very very sticky because it

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<v Speaker 8>was that before. So this idea is if if traders

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<v Speaker 8>have started to load up one way and they have

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<v Speaker 8>to get out of the trade inin liquidity positions, that's

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<v Speaker 8>definitely not ideal and you can see an exacerbated move.

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