1 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: Good morning peeps in Welcome to Okay f Daily with 2 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody recording pre recording from my 3 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: Brooklyn Silarium. Folks, you know Omnicron is here in the 4 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: United States, and as of this recording, it is in 5 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: multiple states. And yet we've heard nothing so far of 6 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: the ban being lifted on South Africa or the seven 7 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: other African nations that this country, as well as many 8 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: others around the world, decided, in their knee jerk political 9 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: reactions to put together a travel ban. When asked by 10 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: doctors scientists whether or not a travel ban is actually 11 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: a preventative medical measure right if it is effective in 12 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: containing COVID nineteen, their responses. Know what actually is effective 13 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: outside of a racist and politically engineered travel ban is 14 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 1: instead putting together quarantine protocols for all people that are 15 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: coming into the United States, not just those that are 16 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: foreign travelers. But if you are a fucking American citizen 17 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: and have been abroad and are coming back to the 18 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: United States, then you either need to show your proof 19 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: of vaccination, a recent negative COVID test, your booster information, 20 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: and in fact fucking quarantine because what has been proven 21 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: to work is taking the measures that the CDC had 22 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: outlined back in twenty twenty that actually do work. Right. 23 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: What we have learned is that we are in fact 24 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: a global community, whether or not we want to function 25 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: like one at all. And the reality is this is 26 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: that before these bands and restrictions go into place, covid 27 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: omicron has already done laps around the fucking globe. So 28 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: maybe you would think that we would learn something from 29 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: our past transgressions because of the Trump administration and actually 30 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: be informed by science and by medicine in the way 31 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: that this administration said that it would be. Except that's not. 32 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 1: What's happening is that again we are having very tepid responses. 33 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 1: We had a very botched rollout vaccination program. And look, 34 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: you have roughly close to sixty percent of the country 35 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: right being vaccinated, but we also know that it's twenty 36 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: five percent of the country that is never going to 37 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: get vaccinated, and we also know that, yes, Donald Trump 38 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: is to blame for that. One of the questions that 39 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: I had asked of Glenn Kirshner earlier this week was 40 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: if in Mark Meadow's book, right that we learned that 41 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: Donald Trump knew days before he was around then candidate 42 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: Joe Biden, and around reporters on Air Force one and 43 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: just knowingly in the Rose Garden spreading, spewing COVID nineteen. 44 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: How come he is not being held criminally liable or 45 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: civilly liable right for doing so. Where we are right 46 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: now is in a nightmare of what I believe to 47 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: be our own creation. And why do I say that, 48 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: because there were opportunities, there were even opportunities post Donald Trump, 49 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: for us to do better, for us to come together 50 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: as a globe battling this health pandemic and recognizing that, 51 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: you know what, pharmaceutical companies making billions upon billions of 52 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: dollars while millions upon millions of people are dying. Maybe 53 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: isn't where we need to put our energy resources. That 54 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: maybe instead, as soon as we were able to have 55 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: the properties, the intellectual properties that would make the RNA, 56 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: that would make the vaccines that we are readily using 57 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: in high income countries, that we would decide as a 58 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: global community that no one pharmaceutical company should have a 59 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: monopoly on making money when we have a virus that 60 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: is ravaging the fucking globe that literally had us as 61 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: a world shutter our doors for months and months on end, 62 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: thinking that we didn't even know. We're washing fucking cardboard, 63 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: We're putting on plastic gloves and double masking and being 64 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: afraid to cross the street and cross somebody's path. Do 65 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: you remember all of the ways that we were acting 66 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,119 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty because we didn't know what the fuck 67 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: was going on? But now, given all the information and 68 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 1: research that we have been provided with, we are still 69 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: acting in ways that are very knee jerk and as 70 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: if we have had no experience. Over the last almost 71 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: two goddamn years. South Africa and their scientists did their 72 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: due diligence because they have very advanced genome projects right 73 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: to be able to detect this new variant, and instead 74 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: of being celebrated for their transparency, right for their initial 75 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: documentation of how this virus is working in people in 76 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: those that are infected in these nations, we shut o 77 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: our doors and then we turn around and we continue 78 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 1: on with bullshit policy that was created to protect corporations 79 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 1: and not protect people. And this is again where I'm 80 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: talking about trips, right, I'm talking about the international property 81 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 1: decision that was made that says that you can't share 82 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: right that we can't avoid out because the intellectual property 83 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: that was created via Faiza and Maderna is theirs and 84 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: theirs alone. But these are government funded, fucking pharmaceutical companies. 85 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: And we're in a global health pandemic. So when India 86 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: and South Africa request, right eight months into the pandemic, 87 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: for there to be a waiver to this policy program 88 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 1: so that they can receive all the information that is 89 00:06:55,080 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: necessary to begin to manufacture a vaccine to say their country, 90 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: But instead we're waiting on the philanthropic desires and the 91 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: charities of higher wealth nations who are responsible for the economic, spiritual, 92 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: emotional damage that has been done to these nations through 93 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: their greed and extraction. And now they can't be bothered 94 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: to do the right thing, and there's no way to 95 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: legally compel them to do so because they're the ones 96 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: that are writing the rules, that are telling other dictating 97 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: how other people are going other countries are going to 98 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: live by them. How does that make sense? And how 99 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: does that not piss us all off? Because we see 100 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: exactly how the fucking ultrawealthy get away with so much 101 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: goddamn shit in America, and it's the same thing that 102 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: high wealth nations do to the lower wealth nations around 103 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: the globe. Greed is what is driving all of this. 104 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: It is not the sanctity of fucking life that the 105 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: GOP had the audacity to tweet out last week as 106 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: it pertained to Rob Wade, because it's sure as fuck 107 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: wasn't about caring about the sanctity of life of the 108 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: four teenagers that were gunned down in Oxford, Michigan. It's 109 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: sure as fuck wasn't caring about the sanctity of life 110 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: when celebrating Kyle Rittenhouse, a fucking murderer. It's sure as 111 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: fuck is not caring about the sanctity of life when 112 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: you are advocating for people to put themselves in harm's 113 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: way when you yourself are covered and protected. It is vicious, 114 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 1: it is cruel, it is criminal, and yet no one 115 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: is being held accountable. You know, I mentioned a couple 116 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: of days ago, once again the president of Brazil, Bulsonado, 117 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: whose Senate was investigating him criminally. It will most likely 118 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: not go anywhere because their government is so corrupt, but 119 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: so the fuck is ours. Where is the investigation into 120 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: who should be responsible? This was not an act of 121 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: fucking God This was an act of negligence, of gross 122 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: negligence on the part of the former twice impeach disgrace 123 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: president of the United States, who him himself became a 124 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: vector for this virus and once again is just able 125 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: to get away with whatever the fuck he wants. And 126 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: you want to tell me to continue to have hope 127 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: and feel like we are moving in what direction exactly? 128 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: We are just gobbling up the Greek alphabet in the 129 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: way that pac Man gobbled up those little beads, right, 130 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 1: just going around, munch, munch, munch. Here we go until 131 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: Amikron turns into whatever the next fucking disastrous outcome will be. 132 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: And what kills me and what our guests coming up, 133 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 1: doctor Abduel el Sayed will say, is we could have 134 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: been done with this, like we didn't have to have 135 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: Alpha and then Delta and now Amikron, right, because we 136 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: could have I just the other day, I was laying 137 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: in bed and I can't stop my mind from moving, 138 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: and I'm thinking to myself, what would have happened? Where 139 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: would we be right now if Hillary Clinton had been president, 140 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: if the response of what we could do in this 141 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 1: country was to come together as patriots, right if we 142 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: were told from the jump, we will get through this, 143 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: and we will do so together as one nation. Right, 144 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 1: if we had started fucking, you know, tying ribbons around 145 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: trees and shit, right like they used to do for 146 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 1: the soldiers, and we did that in recognition, right and 147 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: showing a force of empathy. And then finally, if the 148 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: vaccines then had come and been rolled out, that we 149 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: collectively as a nation would be celebrating, right, our ability 150 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: to overcome That's what I imagine would have happened in 151 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: my head. But you know, maybe I'm just creating a fantasy, 152 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: because it's not as if Mitch McConnell would have died. 153 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: It is not as if, you know, death santists wouldn't 154 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: have been around. So I'm assuming that they would have 155 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: found some way, But at least they would not have 156 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: had a leader in the White House that was champion 157 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 1: inning death right. So without that leader, without that megaphone 158 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: cajoling his cult, maybe Republicans would not have decided that 159 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: their response to a global health pandemic would be to 160 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: tell their constituents to literally go play in traffic. I remain, 161 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: you know a lot of days beside myself where I 162 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: just get caught up, and I think about how things 163 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 1: could have been so drastically different if fifty three percent 164 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: of white women didn't vote against one of their own. 165 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: I think about, you know, Ethan Crumbing, the high school 166 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:02,719 Speaker 1: shooter that murdered four of his classmates. And I think 167 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: about the letter that his deranged mother wrote to Donald 168 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: Trump saying that she would rather be grabbed by the 169 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: pussy than fucked up the ass by the federal government. 170 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: And thank god Donald Trump for giving me my guns, 171 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 1: because I guess he was in the room where it happened, 172 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: where the Constitution was being written. This is American extremism. 173 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: And you know, folks want to tweet and want to say, oh, 174 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: this is going to be Christian Sharia law. Leave the 175 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: fucking Islam culture and out of all of this. This 176 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: has nothing to do. You don't need to make comparisons 177 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: to other places, right, this is what America has always done. 178 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: But you see, when you keep people ignorant of their 179 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: fucking history purposefully so, just in the same way you 180 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: don't teach enslaved Africans how to read, right, because then 181 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: they become educated and you really realize that education is power. 182 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: And the more that they learn about the constitution and 183 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: the rights of this country, the more that they're going 184 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: to ask, well, am I am I a man too? 185 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: Am I a woman too? Am I a citizen too? 186 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: Where the fuck are my rights? So we always love 187 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: to compare what is happening to America to the worst 188 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: that has happened in other nations, when we can just 189 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: compare it to the founding of America, where we can 190 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: take any fucking generation and pull out and see where 191 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: we have always run on the space of violence, of ignorance, 192 00:14:55,320 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: being bliss. Over seven hundred thousand Americans are dead, and 193 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: you have Republicans in this country still calling this a hoax. 194 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: Over seven hundred thousand Americans are dead. And as we 195 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: move through the holiday season, seven hundred thousand families and 196 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: friends have missing people at their dinner tables, in their 197 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: living rooms, Gifts that won't be put under the tree 198 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: because of virus ravage them. But we have Republicans who 199 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: believe that the world is suffering right now as a 200 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: way to unseat them from power. That's how self serving 201 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: and egotistical and disgusting these people are. Like I said yesterday, 202 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: this does not end well, folks, because I there is 203 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: no nothing to point to in our history that tells 204 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: us that, oh, we can have peace, peaceful transition. America 205 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: doesn't know peace. America only knows bloodshed, war violence. It's 206 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: what is celebrated. You know, every time that I see 207 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: somebody with the sticker on their card talking about go 208 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: ahead and take it, and it being a picture of 209 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: an ar fifteen. Everything about America is based on some 210 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: fucking stupid cowboy John Wayne bullshit, right, And really what 211 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: it is about, if we really want to unpack, it 212 00:16:55,200 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: is about white male fragility, right, toxic masculinity masquerading as patriotism. 213 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: But we've all bought into the lie. We've all been 214 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: force fed that story. And so you see these fragile 215 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: white men boys arming themselves because that is the only 216 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 1: way that they feel a sense of power. And one 217 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: must ask themselves a question that Tony Morrison asked so 218 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: many moons ago. If you have to stand on somebody 219 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 1: else's neck in order to feel taller, what does that 220 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: say about you? But you see, so long as they 221 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: have an active political party that is giving them their targets, 222 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 1: revving them up in the same way that Donald Trump 223 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: and Rudy Giuliani and Moe Brooks and others at the 224 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: stop the Steel Rally revved up that crowd and then 225 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: pointed them in the direction of the Capitol Building and said, 226 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:19,959 Speaker 1: go take your country back. These people, every single fucking 227 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: one of them, are responsible. Our murderers have blood on 228 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: their goddamn hands. We are in a place of despair. 229 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: We are witnessing the fracturing of a nation state, the 230 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: anxiety that you feel, the uneasiness, the grief, because we 231 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: are all vacillating through those It is how you process death, 232 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: the stages of grief. And we're still at avoidance where 233 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: we want to pretend that this shit isn't happening. But 234 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: regardless of whether or not we pay attention or not, 235 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: it is and how it ends, I still believe is 236 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: up to us. But in action is not an option. 237 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: Burying our heads in the sand is not an option. 238 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: Pretending that something is a hoax when it is killing 239 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 1: your neighbors, your friends, and your colleagues. It's not an option. 240 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: Who do we want to be? What's the legacy we 241 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: want to leave behind? Because I sure as hell know 242 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: that I'm not going down without a fight, and I 243 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: don't think any of you who listen to wok af 244 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: on a regular basis are either. But what about the 245 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 1: people around us? We bear a responsibility to spread the 246 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:01,199 Speaker 1: word and to wake people the fuck up. That's the 247 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: burden of being woke. That's a burden of being conscious, 248 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: is to then find the ways in which you can 249 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 1: spread that word, because without that collective action, without that 250 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: low level lift, we're gonna be swimming in a sea 251 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: of the debris of our democracy and I don't want 252 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:34,360 Speaker 1: to see that. Coming up next is my conversation with 253 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 1: our friend returning guests, doctor Abdul el Sayed. Folks, I 254 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: am so excited to welcome back to wok A. It 255 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: has been a little bit of time. Welcome back to 256 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: doctor Abdul el Sayed, who is the host for at 257 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: Crooked Media's America Dissected pod and is our public health 258 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: the doctor. If you are not following him on Twitter 259 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 1: railing against our public health system, railing against what is 260 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: happening to our democracy, then you are missing out on 261 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: really great content. I feel like there is not a 262 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: day that has gone by when we haven't had bad news. 263 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: But I will tell you that the day after Thanksgiving, 264 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 1: when my phone my parents phone because I was home 265 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: for the holiday alert. Alert Alert, we have a new variant. 266 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: I just want to get what your reactions were, because 267 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 1: mine was I wanted to throw the phone out the window. 268 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: I was just like, dear God, right like, you know, 269 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: we're struggling. We've been we've been stuck at a certain 270 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: number of vaccinations in this country we have given to 271 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: the world. But I will go into my feelings about 272 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: what it is that that should have a look like 273 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: a versus where we are right now. But what was 274 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: your reaction to that breaking news? Now? It was DAYJAVU 275 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: all over again. I remember back in back in the 276 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: summer when we'd heard about Delta, and the reality of 277 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 1: this is that these these variants, they are a natural 278 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: course of a virus if and when we don't do 279 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: what we can to address it. And so, you know, 280 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: the knowledge of a new variant that you know could 281 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: potentially be and circumstantial evidence suggests is more transmissible, could 282 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 1: potentially escape some of our immune mechanisms, that that really 283 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 1: is super frustrating. And then when I heard about the 284 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 1: response that the administration had had gone forward with, it 285 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: just seemed to be the same kind of knee jerk 286 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: reflex response that that fails to make up for the 287 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: fact that we in this country have not been able 288 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: to mount a real public health response to this virus 289 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 1: from the get whether it was anything as simple as 290 00:22:56,160 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: contact tracing or mass scale antigen testing, or the ability 291 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: to upgrade our genomics or valance, or to have a 292 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: logical approach to screening and quarantining people who come from 293 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: outside this country. Don't just blanket banned people. What you 294 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: do is you make sure that if they're coming in 295 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 1: that they're quarantine for a certain period of time, which 296 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: of course is what other countries who've had a far 297 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: better response I've done, And so it is just deeply 298 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: frustrating to see our country making the same mistakes over 299 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 1: and over again, even as the consequences of our failure 300 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 1: to get our vaccines abroad in a meaningful way, to 301 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 1: invest in manufacturing capacities abroad so that people can make 302 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: their own vaccine have rendered a yet again a new 303 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 1: variant that we're now contending with. And of course it's 304 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: a global pandemic. So what happens across the world, it's 305 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: going to come back to hit us. And this is 306 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 1: happening again. You know, I feel a duel like this 307 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: is it is just to me that we haven't learned 308 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: anything over the past year. That's how I felt about 309 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 1: the the knee jerk reaction because I said, when we 310 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: have doctors and scientists in South Africa that are doing 311 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: their due diligence and being transparent right about this is 312 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: what this is what we have found. This is what 313 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: we are seeing. And we knew that when that announcement 314 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 1: came out that yes, omicron had already been in seven 315 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: nations in Africa, but it had also already traveled to Europe. 316 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: And so it's it's it's we continue to make decisions 317 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: that are based around politics, right, and who in fact 318 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: is expendable, but who is our ally that we want 319 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: to be buddy buddy with. And I'm like, to me, 320 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: how do they continue to justify right? Like it isn't 321 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: just public sentiment. Oh, we see this because we know 322 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: that once it we we know that once something is discovered, 323 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: wherever it is, if it is in Wuhan, China, if 324 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: it is in Italy, if it's in South Africa, if 325 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: it's going to get here, right, So why is it 326 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: that you think that they continue to make these decisions 327 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: and then are not made to be accountable or responsible 328 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: for giving us the public the why. Yeah, that's a 329 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 1: really important point, Danielle. I mean, the reality of this 330 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 1: is that they wanted to look like they were doing 331 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: something to make it for the fact that we have not, 332 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: through the course of this pandemic, been doing the very 333 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 1: thing that we should have been doing from from the 334 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: get and these kinds of basic public health infrastructure pieces, 335 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 1: whether it was ramping up our genomic surveillance early, whether 336 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 1: it was putting in place a thoughtful quarantining approach that 337 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: would apply to anybody coming over because of course, the 338 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: thing about these travel bans just just to take a 339 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: little bit of a bye way here, the thing about 340 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: these travel bans is they only applied to non citizens. 341 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: But it's not like citizens. Somehow we're potentially being infected 342 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 1: with amicron. And here's the thing about it, is not 343 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: like whatever capacities Omicron has, one of them is not 344 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: reading your passport. And so if you create a policy 345 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: that then incentivizes people who could be infected to hurry 346 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 1: on home because they could be next, all you're doing 347 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: is activating the potential for that to happen, and unfortunately, 348 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: right we have not been able to do the very 349 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: basic things well from the jump when it came to 350 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: this pandemic. Now, look, a lot of that is because 351 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 1: of who was president when this pandemic first occurred, and 352 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: a lot of that is, you know, set the pathway forward. 353 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 1: And you know, I talked to my public health colleagues 354 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: all the time, and they tell me just how overworked 355 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: and under supported they really are. And so it's very 356 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: hard once we started this pandemic on the back foot, 357 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: to catch up and really to move beyond where we 358 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: were at the very beginning, because people are leaving the 359 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 1: public health profession in groves and yet and yet we 360 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: are trying to make up for our failure to do 361 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: the very basic public health things well by putting in 362 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,199 Speaker 1: effect pr over it and looking like we've done the 363 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: thing that we're supposed to do. Travel ban was not 364 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 1: a thoughtful policy in the beginning, especially in the context 365 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: of an ongoing debate about whether or not US taxpayer 366 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: funded companies should be required to give their intellectual intellectual 367 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: property out to other countries to allow them to manufacture 368 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: a life saving vaccine. In the context of a pandemic. Now, look, 369 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 1: you know, you could argue, well, look it's a company, 370 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 1: they don't have to give their private intellectual property out 371 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,360 Speaker 1: to anybody. Well that's not entirely the case. When this 372 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 1: company was founded by the US government intended to protect us, 373 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: and our failure to do that thing, our failure to 374 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: manufacture enough of our of our vaccines abroad, has left 375 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: people without the vaccines they need and left them not 376 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: trusting what they have that's coming from our country. And 377 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: that's an important point here, don't forget right, there is 378 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: context for this. South Africa is one of the hardest 379 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 1: hit countries by the HIV pandemic. And yes, it is 380 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 1: a pandemic. We don't call it that simply because we 381 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: devalue the lives of the people who were infected by it, 382 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 1: whether there were they were LGBTQ people at home or 383 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 1: black people abroad. But it was a pandemic and it 384 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: was There was a long history of the US denying 385 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 1: our antiretrovirals to people living abroad, until, of course, there 386 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 1: was a negotiated agreement to allow South African corporate companies 387 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: to manufacture their own antiretrovirals, which is when the population 388 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 1: there started to trust them. And so you know, folks 389 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: are pointing to well, South Africa has enough vaccine and 390 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: it is really just vaccine hesitancy. Well that's not entirely 391 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: the case. There's a path dependency to vaccine hesitancy. People 392 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: don't just become hesitant. They become hesitant because of long 393 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: histories of medical chauvinism and denial of basic human rights 394 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: when it comes to medications in a pandemic. And yeah, 395 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: that may keep them from trusting you the next time around. 396 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: And here we are the next time around. You know. 397 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: It was it was you know last week when I 398 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: was for the first time talking mentioned trips right, because 399 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: I kept saying to myself and for folks with a reminder, 400 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: it is trade related aspects of intellectual property rights trips. 401 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: And I kept saying to myself, there is no way 402 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: that in these G seven meetings, in these you know 403 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: what I now are referring to as global publicity stunts, 404 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: right to make us all believe that our world leaders 405 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: are actually working together that both India and South Africa. 406 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: In October of twenty twenty, petitioned right the global community 407 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: like the High Wealth Nations to say we need you 408 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: to void trips so that we can have the capacity. 409 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: And we're not sitting around waiting on your charity and 410 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: your philanthrop be of good heart for you to do 411 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: what it is that you're telling the world. You'll say 412 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: that you'll do the EU said for for months, Oh, 413 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: we're going to provide x amount of hundreds of millions 414 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: of doses. We're going to provide this, that and the 415 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: other thing. And every time I see Biden on the news, 416 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: he talks about how the US has done more than 417 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: everybody else, but nobody else has actually shown up. So 418 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: how is it that they can continue to not have 419 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 1: a voked a conversation on something that is necessary? And 420 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: all I say, and what you've been saying on social media, 421 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: it's just great. This is this is capitalism. This is 422 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: the world being run by the Wall Street Gordon Geckos 423 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 1: of the world that are going to just continue to 424 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: make money off of death. You know, the point that 425 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: you're making is spot on. Look, you know, we know 426 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: for a long time, if you give a man of 427 00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: fish eats for a day, if you teach a man 428 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: of fish eats forever. This is not about giving vaccine 429 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: to other people. This is about doing what we should 430 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,239 Speaker 1: have done from the very beginning and empowering them to 431 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: make their own vaccine in the first place. And the 432 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: only reason we are not doing that is because of 433 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: these international patent agreements, which there is precedent to break 434 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,959 Speaker 1: in the context of a global pandemic. We've done it before, 435 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,479 Speaker 1: and the only reason we're not doing it is because 436 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: of the lobbying of major pharmaceutical corporations, both of the 437 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: United States government and of European governments abroad, who tell 438 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: us that somehow the innovation that we've come to expect 439 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: won't happen if we violate these agreements. But here's the 440 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: problem is that that innovation occurred in government funded laboratories. Maderna. 441 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: Maderna was a government funded project, and when they applied 442 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: for their patent, you know what they did. They excluded 443 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: folks like doctor Kismikia Corbett, right, the NIH government scientist 444 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: who were so critical in that discovery, because they knew 445 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: that if that pattern was under the titles of government scientists, 446 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: that it may complicate their ability to operate as a 447 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: private corporation. And what we're seeing here is the problem 448 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: of that handoff, and it happens all the time here 449 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: at home as well. This is not is not something 450 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: that we don't we don't face here at home. Sure, 451 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: vaccines are free, and look, if you are not vaccinated 452 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: and not boosted yet, you better go on and make 453 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: sure you can do that thing. Okay, You know nobody 454 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: tells you that the will will say miss an opportunity 455 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: to tell you vaccinate. Please please get your vaccine. That 456 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: being set right, how many medications are mission critical for 457 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: people's lives that people go it out simply because some 458 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: corporation has put an absurd dollar value on it. You know, insulin. 459 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: The patent for insulin was sold for a dollar by 460 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: the folks who discovered it in in Toronto. They sold 461 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 1: it for a dollar and their reasoning was that insulin 462 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: belongs to everybody. Right, this is a human discovery that 463 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: can empower diabetics to live a long, healthy life. How 464 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: could we put it behind our own greed? And now 465 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: you routinely see corporations spike the price on insulin simply 466 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: because they can because people need it, right. That's what 467 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: economists call an inelastic demand, meaning they know that people 468 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: are going to pay what you ask them to pay 469 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: because they have to, and so they just exploit that 470 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: day in and day out, and that affects people at home, 471 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: and right now, it's affecting people abroad, and it's affecting 472 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: their trust in the very vaccine simply because they say, well, look, 473 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: you have a long history of Nicolin diming me for 474 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: the things that I need to live in my life. 475 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: Why do I trust what you're sending over? And if 476 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: we were just to allow these the South African or 477 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: Indian base manufacturers, who, by the way, everybody tells you 478 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: that they don't have the capacity to do this, they 479 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: make a lot of the generics that we take here 480 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: at home. They have fantastic capacity. And frankly, if you 481 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: walked into a laboratory in the United States, most of 482 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: the folks who are going to see are going to 483 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: be coming from abroad. Right They're folks whomibert here in 484 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: the first place. So I'll tell me that they're not 485 00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: smart enough for capable enough to do it, right, we're 486 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 1: just denying them the capacity to do it, simply because 487 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: Maderna wants to continue to make billions in profit. And 488 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 1: that's exactly what they've made already. And I'm perfectly okay 489 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 1: with that, just don't do that at the cost of 490 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 1: people getting their medications in the first place, and don't 491 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 1: allow it then to take that money that you've made 492 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,399 Speaker 1: to the lobby the very government that created you, right 493 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: for policies that that that ultimately harm people and keep 494 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 1: this this mission critical medication out of their hands. And 495 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: so we've really got to rethink the way that we 496 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: regulate corporations that that that that make money off of 497 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: government funded research projects that that wind up becoming pharmaceuticals 498 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 1: that people need. You know, I just find you know, 499 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: it just is I'm so disgusted, right and there are 500 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,240 Speaker 1: sometimes when I'm just at a loss for words, and 501 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 1: you know, when I recognize that everything that is playing 502 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: out on the world stage right now with high income 503 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,879 Speaker 1: nations versus low income nations, it is the same shit 504 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 1: that plays out every day in America right where you 505 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: have the wealthy one percent that are able to make 506 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 1: decisions to withhold, to grind to a halt like anything 507 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: that they want, right because they have the resources to 508 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,359 Speaker 1: do it, and we the rest of us are just 509 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 1: at their whim, at their mercy, right you have. You know, 510 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,879 Speaker 1: I said this the other day on social media said, 511 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: you know, you have how much would it take, you know, 512 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: how much money would it require in order to vaccinate 513 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,959 Speaker 1: the world right in order to get you know, all 514 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 1: of these shots. And I asked that question as we 515 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 1: had wall to wall coverage of the billionaires of the 516 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: world in a space race. Meanwhile, people are dying, right, 517 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,760 Speaker 1: over seven hundred thousand people in the United States have died, 518 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: millions have died worldwide, right, and we're continuing to wring 519 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 1: our hands and pretend like we haven't learned, like we 520 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 1: haven't learned anything, Like we don't get what is at 521 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,319 Speaker 1: the core of this. And I said, the travel ban, 522 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: what is at the core racism? It is it is 523 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:11,399 Speaker 1: the colonizer's mindset, right, and it is and we are 524 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 1: looking again at these nations who have been extracting for generations, 525 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,359 Speaker 1: extracting from these places, and then when they are in need, 526 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,839 Speaker 1: and it's not just their need, it's a global need. 527 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 1: There's there's no acknowledgment of that, you know, Danielle. I 528 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: was when I said that I'm okay with them making billions, 529 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 1: I actually take that back, Like this was a government 530 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: funded research project. We the American taxpayers invested in the 531 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: time and the effort and the money that it took 532 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 1: to employ really capable scientists to devise a way to 533 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 1: leverage MR and a technology to create vaccines for emergent pathogens. 534 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 1: The federal government should be in the business of taking 535 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 1: this the next step and making sure that everybody has 536 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 1: it here and abroad. Because here's the thing about it, right, 537 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 1: here's the thing about right that we should care about 538 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 1: other people in other countries simply because they're people. We 539 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,360 Speaker 1: should we should care that a child in India or 540 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: an elder in South Africa has their vaccine against a 541 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 1: pandemic disease that has killed millions of people. We should 542 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 1: care about those people because they're people. But here's the thing. 543 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: You don't even have to care about those people. You 544 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 1: just have to care about yourself. Because here's the right. 545 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,919 Speaker 1: Our failure to invest in getting those vaccines out there, 546 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 1: the vaccines that we bought and pay for as taxpayers, 547 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: means that the virus, the virus variants that are ever 548 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 1: evolving in unvaccinated bodies abroad, are going to come back 549 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,439 Speaker 1: and take lives at home. Right. That was the whole 550 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 1: point of the investment, was that that didn't happen. And 551 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: we're failing that simply because now we're saying that, you 552 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 1: know what, we can give it to some corporation to 553 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 1: manufacture it, make billions and billions of dollars off of it. 554 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,839 Speaker 1: So maybe there's some someday they're CEO can figure out 555 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 1: how to devise a rocket to take a nine year 556 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 1: old man of space. And uh and and meanwhile, we're 557 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 1: not even a compli the end that we set out for, 558 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 1: which is to protect people from deadly pathogens that evolve 559 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 1: and uh and so we're failing. And this system where 560 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:13,320 Speaker 1: we assent to the idea that some major pharmaceutical corporation 561 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: has to control the intellectual property that we all invested 562 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 1: in as failing us. It's failing us here, it's failing 563 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,360 Speaker 1: people abroad, and all of that is coming back and 564 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 1: redounding to the detriment of all of us. You know, 565 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 1: I want to ask you to you know, with regard 566 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,839 Speaker 1: we're being told by doctor Fauci, by Rachelle Wilenski, by 567 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 1: others that we won't really know the machinations of Amicron 568 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 1: for about a month, right a month to six weeks, 569 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 1: that is how long it will take to do the 570 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,440 Speaker 1: research to understand the data and then to make that 571 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: and share it with the public. But there are some real, 572 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 1: real fears, and I want to get you know, from 573 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 1: your colleagues that you're talking to on a regular basis, 574 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 1: what are some of the fears that we need again, 575 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 1: because I want to shake the shit out of people. 576 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 1: I want people to recognize that it matters what is 577 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 1: happening across the pond, around the world, because we are 578 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 1: a global community. And if twenty twenty didn't show that 579 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 1: to you, then twenty twenty one and twenty twenty two 580 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,319 Speaker 1: and all the years that we continue to be in 581 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 1: this right, it will keep hitting you on the head 582 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 1: and until you get it. So just tell folks, you know, 583 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,760 Speaker 1: what are some of the things that you are hearing 584 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 1: from your colleagues. Well, I want to stick to the 585 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 1: facts on this here. You know. The hard part about 586 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 1: science is that it is a process. It's not a 587 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,839 Speaker 1: body of knowledge. Nobody can pull out the coronavirus book 588 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: and be like, we turn to page three hundred and 589 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 1: fifty two and be like, all right, here's the omicron variant. 590 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,960 Speaker 1: Here's what's happening with it. This is new. We are 591 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 1: dealing with it, and so science is a process by 592 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 1: which we understand the world by asking questions and testing hypotheses, 593 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 1: and so I do think it's important for us to 594 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 1: be prudent about what the science is tell us. That 595 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 1: being said, a lot of the circumstantial evidence that we 596 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 1: are getting from just a very simple biochemical analysis of 597 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 1: this variant suggest to us that it's taken all of 598 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 1: the greatest hits of COVID nineteen, all of the worst 599 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 1: aspects of beta and delta, and added some on top, 600 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 1: so that this variant has the potential to be both 601 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 1: more transmissible and also more likely to escape our immune response. 602 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 1: I want to be clear about something, though it's not 603 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 1: likely to fully escape our vaccines. I don't want folks 604 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,839 Speaker 1: leaving this interview saying, ah, well, this variant is gonna 605 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 1: render our vaccines ineffective. No, that's not true. It's it's 606 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,799 Speaker 1: just possible that it might render them less effective. And 607 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,399 Speaker 1: it's not a good thing, simply because most folks now 608 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 1: right are in the process of having been either doubly 609 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 1: vaccinated or on their way to getting a third vaccination, which, 610 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 1: by the way, let me just say it again, if 611 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 1: you haven't gotten your booster please do get your booster. 612 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 1: But but if that's the case, then it has the 613 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:04,360 Speaker 1: compac to really create yet another surge in our country. 614 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 1: Now here's the other side of it. We don't know 615 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 1: how severe this variant is going to be. And if 616 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 1: you look at if you permit me to personify a 617 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 1: non living virus for a second, if you're a virus, 618 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 1: your goal is to spread as many people as possible. 619 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 1: You don't really care if you make them really sick. 620 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 1: You just care that you infect as many people as 621 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 1: possible so you can replicate yourself as many times as 622 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: possible as the goal. Right, And so it makes sense 623 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,799 Speaker 1: that a virus would evolve toward transmissibility. That just makes 624 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 1: you better at being able to affect more people. But 625 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 1: it also makes sense that the virus would evolve for 626 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 1: reducing severity, because after all, if you're too severe, you 627 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,400 Speaker 1: kill too many hosts and then you don't spread. And 628 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 1: if you're also too severe, then you change the host 629 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,799 Speaker 1: behavior because they get really sick and they tend to 630 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 1: be bedridden and not want to go and spread the virus. 631 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 1: So what a virus tries to do, in effect, is 632 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:54,399 Speaker 1: to evolve away from severity and toward transmissibility. And so 633 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 1: we've got some early circumstantial evidence that suggests that cases 634 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 1: of amicron are relatively mild, which is something to hang 635 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 1: your hat on. But again, none of this is rigorous. 636 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 1: We've got to wait for the science because science is 637 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 1: the process, is not a body of knowledge, and circumstantial 638 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,719 Speaker 1: evidence is just that, it's just circumstantial. Here's the thing, though, 639 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,799 Speaker 1: we should be over with this pandemic. We could have 640 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 1: been over with this pandemic if we were willing. The 641 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,400 Speaker 1: way to think about a vaccine is like putting a 642 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:25,320 Speaker 1: blanket on a fire. Right. You can't just slowly feed 643 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,880 Speaker 1: the blanket of the fire, because then the blanket just 644 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 1: becomes something that the fire eats, versus right throwing the 645 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 1: blanket on the fire all at once. That's what we 646 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 1: should have done when it came to COVID nineteen. That's 647 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,840 Speaker 1: what we could have done when it came to COVID nineteen. 648 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,759 Speaker 1: We just did not do that thing. We did not 649 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,239 Speaker 1: do that thing because we were unwilling to put the 650 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 1: well being of people abroad ahead of the profits of 651 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,840 Speaker 1: major corporations. And we did not do that thing because 652 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,880 Speaker 1: we have, unfortunately a strain of pseudo fascism in this 653 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 1: country that says that if Deer Leader didn't say it, 654 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 1: it's not true. And so it's made itself opposed to 655 00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 1: everything from science to journalism and anything in between. And 656 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:04,879 Speaker 1: and so you have a large swath of our country 657 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 1: that just denies that the pandemic is even a real thing, 658 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 1: even though they want to blame I don't know, doctor 659 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 1: Faucune whomever else for its emergence in Wuhan, But it's 660 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,239 Speaker 1: not a real thing, and you shouldn't take it a 661 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 1: safe and effect of vaccine to treat it. This is 662 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 1: the logic. So we're being unfortunately prolonged in our experience 663 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:25,719 Speaker 1: of this pandemic because of the failure to get this 664 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 1: vaccine abroad and the failure to take on the strain 665 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,640 Speaker 1: of anti science in anti logic in our own country 666 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 1: at home. You know, it's just it truly is depressing. 667 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,920 Speaker 1: But I have to say, you know, once again, I'm 668 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 1: always so appreciative when you make the time to join 669 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:45,600 Speaker 1: us on woke f to just bring some you know, 670 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 1: clarity to where we are, because I feel like a 671 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,719 Speaker 1: lot of people feel crazy. I know that I did 672 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 1: when I saw the breaking news, and so to really 673 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 1: contextualize how we got to this place. It's not enough 674 00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 1: to just for me to just figure out these differ 675 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,320 Speaker 1: frent tactics that are mostly pomp and circumstance in pr 676 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 1: but to really honestly understand how we got here right 677 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,280 Speaker 1: and that it isn't just like Donald Trump being negligent 678 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 1: or Bolsonato being negligent and not caring about their people, 679 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,239 Speaker 1: but it's an entire ecosystem that is based around capitalism 680 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 1: and greed that has gotten us here as well. Doctor 681 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,840 Speaker 1: abduel El sayed, thank you so much for making the 682 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 1: time to join Woke f and we hope to have 683 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 1: you back again soon. Hey, it's always a privilege, and 684 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 1: I hope that's sometime I get to come on and 685 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,239 Speaker 1: I don't have to talk about, you know, bad things 686 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:34,719 Speaker 1: that kill people like I want to talk about some 687 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 1: China lollipop. Some day. Maybe we'll get there, maybe in 688 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, just kidding. Oh goodness. On that note, 689 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 1: I appreciate you, folks. That is it for me today 690 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,920 Speaker 1: on Woke F as always power to the people and 691 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 1: to all the people. Power, get woke and stay woke 692 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 1: as fuck.