1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve Camray. 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to stuff mom never told you? 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: From house to works dot Com. Hey, and welcome to 4 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: the podcast. This is Smiling and I'm Kristen. Kristen, Can 5 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: you tell me about your hopes and dreams and hopefully 6 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: work in the phrase world peace while you're at it? Well, 7 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: world peace actually is my number one dream, Molly. I 8 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: hope to achieve it here and beyond in these United 9 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: States and south of US, in the borders below and 10 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: across the ocean blue. You just totally dissed Canada borders below. 11 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: No one lives in Canada. Oh no, we have so 12 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: many Canadian listeners. That was a joke. Oh, I guess maybe. 13 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: Do you think that part of becoming Miss America, which 14 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: is our topic today, is diss in Canada. Do you 15 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: think Miss America has been ready to go to war 16 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,959 Speaker 1: against Canada? I'll times, I don't know, but I think 17 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: that that should be the next question for Miss America 18 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: during their Q and A time. Would you be ready 19 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 1: to go to war against Canada? Could you could you 20 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: arm wrestle Miss Canada for a world supremacy. Oh, I'm 21 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 1: not very good at arm wrestling. I'd probably will never 22 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: be Miss America. I'm too old to be Miss America now, 23 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: I learned from our podcast research that's true. This this 24 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 1: podcast especially aimed at girls seventeen to twenty four, just 25 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: gave away my jo because those are the girls eligible 26 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: to compete as Miss America. And obviously if you're younger 27 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 1: than that, then you know, get ready to go because prime, 28 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: prime pageant years are coming up. Yeah, well there's also 29 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: Miss tin USA to today, we're just going to focus 30 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: on Miss America, Christen, because there's so many pageants out there, 31 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: so may we got to narrow it down. And to 32 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: me growing up, this one was like the ideal pageant. 33 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: It was the classiest of the pageants. True, and I 34 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: see us it was just a skin show, true. And 35 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: she didn't have a talent, that's the big difference between 36 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: the two. Talent was just bikini wearing. We'll get to 37 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: that later. But is she still relevant? Is this is 38 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: this thing that I grew up watching? I could still remember. 39 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: I even looked up the year for you, Kristen, because 40 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: I remember this lady made such an impact on me 41 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: In nine two. I watched when Caroline Suzanne Sap was 42 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: crowned Miss America. And then in that year she did 43 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: a television movie about domestic violence because her boyfriend had 44 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: beat her. And remember thinking, man, if this could happen 45 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: to Miss America, could happen to anyone. I mean, that 46 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 1: year Miss America made a really big influence. Did I don't. 47 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: I can't tell you the last time that I watched 48 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 1: Miss America in full. I know that it happened at 49 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: some point. It's been a while, but I don't think 50 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: you're alone. So that's why today we're going to answer 51 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: the question is she still relevant? Because she was very 52 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: relevant to me in two, But now we just had 53 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: a Miss America pageant. I didn't even watch it. Yeah, 54 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: ratings have gone way down. Just to give you a 55 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: sense of just how little America now cares about well, 56 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,679 Speaker 1: Miss America, let's look at some some ratings. Okay, smell 57 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: in nine, just a year before that monumental Miss America 58 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: pageant for you. First of all, the pageant was on NBC, 59 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: right major network, with twenty six point seven million viewers. Okay, 60 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: now last year, well actually last January, the paget was 61 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: not only on TLC, a cable network, and uh, I 62 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: think we should say a corporate parents slash affiliate. Only 63 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: three point five million viewers tuned in and that represents 64 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: a drop of eighty seven percent and noted a cultural 65 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: scholar Mario Lopez a k a a c st yews 66 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: later he attributes this to the rise of magazines like Maxim, 67 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: which means that you know, you don't have to tune 68 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: into Miss America to see a girl in a bikini anymore. Yeah, 69 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: so maybe that's why some guys don't tune in anymore 70 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: or reality shows. In fact, in that same Entertainment Weekly 71 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: article that Mario Lopez is quoted, Jessica Valenti, who founded 72 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: Feministing dot com, says, why get worked up about Miss 73 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: America when you really should get worked up about what 74 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: the ladies are doing on like The Bachelor of the Bachelorette. So, 75 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: at one point, this pageant used to be something that 76 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: everyone tuned into, a lot of people got mad about, 77 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: and now no one even cares. So how do we 78 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: get there? How did we get there? Well, it all 79 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: started back in Atlantic City, the place where dreams are born. Yes, uh, 80 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: we've got all these hotel owners who are trying to 81 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: persuade families to stay a little bit longer Atlantic City, 82 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: and they figure out the one way to get people 83 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: to stay, it's put on a big pageant. Yeah, so 84 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: they organized around Labor Day. Um, they organized something called 85 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: the Fall Frolic. Now, doesn't that sound fun? Maulling a 86 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: fall frolic? Now? When the Fall Frolic began, there were 87 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: three fifty decorated rolling wicker chairs that were pushed along 88 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: the parade route down I think it was down the 89 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: boardwalk in Atlantic City, and you had handsome eligible men 90 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: pushing the chairs along, and seated inside those chairs were 91 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: costumed maidens, right fair maidens for onlookers to gaze upon 92 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 1: and think about and revel. Everyone was involved, though, you know, 93 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: I read one quote that said that you know when 94 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: they one year and they're like, well, there's gonna be 95 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: a bathing suit competition. Everyone was dressing up in their 96 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: bathing suits. Not a bathing suit competition about a bay 97 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: those review. That's right, it was classy. But even though 98 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 1: there were hundreds of these people dressed up, only eight 99 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: people were competing for this beauty pageant title. And the 100 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: first winner, our first Miss America, was Margaret Gorman, a 101 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: fifteen year old schoolgirl from Washington, d C. Now, I 102 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 1: was amazed at what was said about old Margaret Gorman 103 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: by American Federation of Labor president Samuel Gompers. He told 104 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: The New York Times that Gorman represented the type of 105 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: woman that America needs, strong, red blooded, able to shoulder 106 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: the responsible always of homemaking a motherhood. It isn't her 107 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 1: type that the hope of the country rests. Ye. WHOA 108 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: that is a lot of pressure for a fifteen year old. 109 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:14,799 Speaker 1: Five one fifteen year old is the hope of America. Yeah, 110 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: that's pretty crazy. Yeah. And from there, um, the parade 111 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: and festivities expanded, the popularity grew, Um and other people 112 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: from other parts of the country started getting involved. We 113 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: start to see the beginning of this padget system. But 114 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: they were not very good about setting rules at the 115 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: very beginning. And uh, one thing that kind of embarrassed 116 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 1: them in the early days was that they forgot to 117 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: include a no marriage clause and so they had like, 118 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: you know, married women and women with babies showing up. 119 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: And uh, I think the hotel owners realized that we 120 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: got a little creepy. Then when you were judging some 121 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: man's wife. These women they had loosen morals. They needed 122 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: they needed young flesh to feast upon. I think wholesome 123 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: young flesh that is smally. Because one of one of 124 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: the rules was no makeup and no bobbed hair, which 125 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: were symbols of worldliness. I think that's I think that's 126 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: an interesting distinction, is that in the early days, it 127 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: was no bobbed hair, no artificial artificial means to achieve beauty, 128 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: whereas now you know, now there are some women who've 129 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: been tweaked a little bit, maybe a dead but lastic 130 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: surgeon involved. But that contest ended right bad, the bad 131 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: publicity because all these married women were showing up. So 132 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: now they try and revive it a few times, but 133 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: they keep having mary contestants show up. Um. They revived 134 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: it in nineteen thirty five, and in nineteen thirty seven 135 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: the Miss America they crowned disappeared, just ran away. I 136 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: wanted to go back to school. Um. So now they're 137 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: trying to class it up, and I think that you 138 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: can really trace a lot of the class and a 139 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: lot of the that is attributed to Leonora Slaughter, who 140 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: Um in nineteen thirty eight added a talent competition, so 141 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: it wasn't just you know, crass cross bathing suit beauties 142 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: had they had be talented too. And she was also 143 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: the woman who um started the scholarship program, so now 144 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: it's not the beauty pageant, it's a scholarship program. So 145 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: she's really attributed with with bringing dignity back to Miss America. 146 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: But the contest was still restricted to a very select 147 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: group of girls. For instance, as late as in nineteen forty, 148 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: all of the contestants had to list on a biological 149 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: biological data sheet how far back they could trace their ancestry. 150 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: And that was because the contest was formally restricted in 151 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: its rules too only white girls. Um. And even in 152 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:42,839 Speaker 1: ninety five when Bess Meyerson, who was Jewish, was selected 153 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: as Miss America, they tried to convince Meyerson to change 154 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: her name to go under a different name, uh, so 155 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: that other people wouldn't find out that, oh my gosh, 156 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: we have a Jewish Miss America. And that just you know, 157 00:08:55,559 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: reflects the enormous anti semitism and racism of the time. Him, right, 158 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: but you know, it's like you said, it's of the 159 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: time and the song there she is Miss America. Comes 160 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: into being in the nineteen fifties, and one of the 161 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: lines is that's our ideal. So that's sort of the 162 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: question I think it's worth thinking about as we go 163 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: through this and as we think about the pageant to 164 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: day and whether it's still relevant, is do we have 165 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: a national ideal anymore? So? Apparently back then our national 166 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: ideal is pretty as you said, racist and anti semitic. 167 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: But other than that, Mark historians consider the nineteen forties 168 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: and nineteen fifties of Miss America to be sort of 169 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: like the Golden Years. That's when the song came into being. 170 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: Bert Parks hosted the pageant for years and years, was 171 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: very popular. The one interesting thing did happen in nineteen 172 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: fifty one. Yes, we have Alabama and Yolanda, but Beazy 173 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: who did not want to wear a bathing suit in public, 174 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: so she couldn't compete in the very popular, you know, 175 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: swimsuit portion. And because of that, Catalina's Swimwear, which was 176 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: a big sponsor, UH founded two rival beauty pad since 177 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: you may have heard of Miss USA and Miss Universe. 178 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: So we have a headstrong Alabama to thank for these 179 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: other two major competitions, right, But other than that. Like 180 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: we said, it's it's it's it's relatively going along pretty easy, 181 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: it seems like. But you know, then at the same 182 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: time in the country, I've got civil rights starting to happen, 183 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: We've got the women's movement, and everything comes to a 184 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: head in nineteen sixty eight with the Women's Liberation Front. Yes, 185 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: and this is where the common uh slang I guess 186 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 1: for feminist bra burners comes about, even though no bras 187 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: were actually burned. We have a large group of feminist 188 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: protesters outside the Miss America pageant, and they bring with 189 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 1: them all sorts of symbols of you know, their oppressions, 190 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: such as household magazines like um Harper's Bizarre, Cosmo good 191 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: He bring aprons, they bring all sorts of the hurlers, curlers, eyelashes, 192 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: and braziers and they throw them into these giant trash 193 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: scans and they were going to light them on fire, 194 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: but that didn't end up working out, I think because 195 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: they weren't allowed to set anything on fire. Right it 196 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: was a wooden board block, yeah, I think, a little one. 197 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: Not a good idea, so it didn't end up setting 198 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: anything on fire. But the media totally swarmed in on 199 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: this protest and someone coined to turn braw burners and 200 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: then it just took off from there. But in fact 201 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: people no no brawls were burned. So at the protest, 202 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: these women circulated a brochure called no More Miss America, 203 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: and you can find the text online, but we're gonna 204 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: read um some sections that because it's a pretty pretty 205 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: fabulous brochure. If I do say so myself, I don't 206 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: think you have to agree with one of it to 207 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,599 Speaker 1: just love the language that it's written in and to 208 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: wish that you've been alive in For instance, in case 209 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: of arrest, we plan to reject all male authority and 210 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 1: demand to be busted by policewomen only in Atlantic City 211 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 1: women cops are not permitted to make a rest. Dig that. Yeah, 212 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: we really loved the language and this, um, let's go 213 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: over who uh these feminists invited. They invited women's liberation groups, 214 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: black women, high school and college women, women's peace groups, 215 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: women's welfare and social work groups, women's job equality groups, 216 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: pro birth control and pro abortion groups, women of every 217 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 1: political persuasion. But they did not invite men. They specifically 218 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 1: said male chauvinist reactionaries on this issue had best stay away. 219 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 1: Nor are male liberals welcome in the demonstrations, but sympathetic 220 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: men can donate money as well as cars and drivers. 221 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: And I think we should mention that this was organized 222 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: by the New York Radical Women and they had ten 223 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 1: major points that I think we should toss out that 224 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 1: they were protesting against. Number one, the degrading, mindless boob 225 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: girly symbol. It likened women to being a specimens up 226 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: for four age ribbons. That you know, they checked their teeth, 227 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: they checked their body. It was it was silly beauty standards, 228 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: is what these women were upset about. And then we 229 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: also have racism with roses because um, as we mentioned earlier, uh, 230 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: the contest was really only open to white women, and 231 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: since its inception, and this is in nineteen eight, the 232 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: pageant had not had one black finalist, right or any 233 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: other nationality. Now that the women were also upset that 234 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: Miss America would always go talk to the troops abroad, 235 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: and since Vietnam was going on, they called Miss America 236 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: a mascot for murder, saying that she had to go 237 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: off and cheer up boys into dying, and that this 238 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: was not what the ideal woman should be doing. And 239 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: they also called it out for hawking uh commercial items 240 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: obviously they had major sponsors, um and also perpetuating this 241 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 1: beauty myth. I mean that's a that's an argument that 242 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: still comes up with the with the Miss America contest. 243 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,599 Speaker 1: And then this idea of you know, Miss America to 244 00:13:54,880 --> 00:14:00,079 Speaker 1: to borrow a phrase from Elvis Costello being this year's model. Know, 245 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: she's just cycled in and out every year. You can 246 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: remember last year's Miss America's name. Yeah. Um, so they're 247 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: saying that women are disposable. They have to exhamite this 248 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: commonly referred to a combination known as madonna whore. They 249 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: have to be wholesome enough to win everyone's vote, but 250 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: they still need to be sexy enough to you know, 251 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: entertain the home viewers. And then they also rejected this 252 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: idea that while you know, every little boy supposedly wants 253 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: to grow up to be president, the dream for little 254 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: girls should be to prance across the stage in hopes 255 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: of winning a crown. Doesn't seem very fulfill the beauty pageant. Yeah, 256 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: there's very little power with that. You're just there for 257 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: to please other people. Your hood ornament. Yeah, so I 258 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: think that many of these criticisms um are still in play, 259 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: just some extent. But if no one watches Miss America, 260 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: then then doesn't matter, right, because in nineteen eight it 261 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: was still wildly popular and got really great television ratings, 262 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: a far site from the kind of pitiful ratings that 263 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: it gets today. So protests continue on uh into the seventies. 264 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: In fact, Miss American nineteen seventy two was burned in 265 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: effigy by radical feminists as she toured various cities during 266 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: her reign um, which is pretty scary, but the pageant 267 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: does start to make some strides in terms of more 268 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: minorities participating. In Night four we have Vanessa Williams who 269 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: becomes the first black Miss America, which is great. How 270 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: she also receives death threats. It is a very she 271 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: also receives death threats, and then it turns into a 272 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: really sad story because a little later after she has 273 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: won her crown, these pornographic photos of her surface and 274 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: everything just falls apart for Messa. You know, Penthouse published them. 275 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: Penthouse publishes them, and I think it was one of 276 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: the best selling issues ever. And um, so she had 277 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: resigned Yeah, for once the first runner up actually got 278 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: to take Miss America's place. Yeah, although I think a 279 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: similar thing happened with the Miss America recently after she 280 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: was crowned. I think a couple of years ago, pornographic 281 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: pictures of her surface as well. I have to say 282 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: that there seemed to be a lot of nude pictures 283 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: of people sprouting up, and I just want to tell 284 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: you out there, don't take new pictures. Don't do it. 285 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: It will come back to high. Yeah, that's my opinion 286 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: on nude pictures. I digress. But speaking of being nearly nude, 287 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: I think it's time to bring it back this conversation 288 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: to the issue of swimsuits. Yes, because in recent years 289 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: people have said, we don't need a Miss America to 290 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: parade around in a swimsuit to think that she is, 291 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: you know, our ideal. And there was talk in the 292 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: ninety nineties of abolishing the swimsuit competition, right, and they 293 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: actually put it up to an audience vote during one 294 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: of these competitions, and it's still around. People wanted the 295 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: swimsuit competition. What was the what was this statistic? They're molly, 296 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: you know, I think the home audience voted three to 297 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: one to keep it, but you know the women who 298 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: participated in it also were in favor of keeping it. 299 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 1: The vote was forty two to seven, with one woman 300 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 1: app standing from the vote. That makes a solid fifty. 301 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 1: And she explained her refusing to vote as you know, 302 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: I'm okay with it either way. I don't necessarily want 303 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: to put on a swimsuit. But it's a means to 304 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 1: an end, and that brings up I think what that 305 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: means to an end is, and that is the platform 306 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: which came into being in the late nineteen eighties. Yes, 307 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 1: and by platform you are referring to the social issue 308 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: that each contestant has to adopt as her kind of 309 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 1: pet project, like some people will do homelessness, or education 310 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 1: or world peace, what have you. So this platform coming 311 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: into being in the late nineteenies, I think exhibits, you know, 312 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:54,199 Speaker 1: the identity crisis that the pageant has been in since 313 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: that time, because you know, the pageant officials straight out 314 00:17:57,920 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: admitted that a platform was a way to sort of 315 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: class up the pageant or mind people is for scholarships 316 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 1: that they recognize that the ideal representative America should be 317 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: able to talk intelligently about issues. Um. But at the 318 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: same time, in an effort to get ratings, in recent years, 319 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 1: they've done things like cut talent competitions so that not 320 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: as many girls compete on air with their talent. So 321 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: I think that, you know, it's it's very interesting to 322 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 1: see what they want the pageant to be, which is, 323 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: you know a little bit more cerebral, maybe just maybe 324 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: just in name, maybe just to get you know, accolades 325 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: and to keep the feminists from being too angry. But 326 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,479 Speaker 1: what they choose to emphasize on the on air portion 327 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: are the swimsuits, are the evening gowns. So and in 328 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,360 Speaker 1: the final night of the competition, which is, uh, what 329 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: we all see is just swimsuit evening where something called 330 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 1: pure respect and leadership, touch of talent, and then top 331 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: five Knowledge and Understanding competition, which is always kind of 332 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 1: the best part to me because that's when they asked 333 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: the girls you know that, or the women I should 334 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,719 Speaker 1: say that, their their questions that can sometimes get kind 335 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: of funny answers because they're put on the spot. Um yeah, yeah, 336 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 1: I mean, well, you know that that does raise the question, 337 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: is you know now you watch it kind of hoping 338 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: someone screws up and becomes a YouTube phenomenon because they're 339 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: you know, they're did see. But I think it probably 340 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: does really aggravate the women who are smart, who show 341 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: up and do pageants for the sake of being scholarship money. Sure, 342 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: there are plenty of contestants who are in school, very 343 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: reputable colleges and universities, law students, med students. I mean, 344 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: they're definitely more than just pretty faces. So I think 345 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: that leads us well into the question of what do 346 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: we want, Christen, what is an ideal for someone who's 347 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: gonna have a title called Miss America, which arguably we 348 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: don't need the titrible Let's say there's going to be 349 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: a Miss America. We've got a crown one. What do 350 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 1: we want? You know, we you know, you just admitted 351 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: that you kind of like to see a girl be 352 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: a little bit human, maybe not be perfectly poised like 353 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: a robot. You want to see someone who's authentic, which 354 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 1: I think is why World Peace gets to be such 355 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 1: a joke. It's because they know that if they say that, 356 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: it rings some sort of bells. Um. There was one 357 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 1: time when they crowned um a law student Miss America. 358 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: She didn't cry, and people at home just rode in 359 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: and they were like, you know, we want to see 360 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 1: someone get really touched that they're the new Miss America. 361 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: So it's the audience does want, you know, sort of 362 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: a human But if you're a strong woman, is that 363 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 1: I don't I mean I would hope I wouldn't cry 364 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: if I was crowned Miss America. So on the one hand, 365 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,479 Speaker 1: as Jessica Villenney pointed out in that Entertainment Weekly article, 366 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: because Miss America is kind of become so irrelevant and 367 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: pop culture, it might not be worth getting worked up over. Um. 368 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 1: And in addition to that, I think it's kind of 369 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: cool that Miss America is like the number one scholarship 370 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,199 Speaker 1: organization for young women in the US. I mean they 371 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: doll out I think upwards of forty million dollars a 372 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: year for young women to go to uh to college. 373 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: I mean, is it necessarily the best way to win 374 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 1: a scholarship? I mean really used to say, well, it's 375 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: what I'm asking you, who would what what would be 376 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: your qualifications of giving out of scholarship? What would be 377 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: my qualifications? Um? Suit involved ring and mental challenges. Yes, 378 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: but when people tune in to watch that. I don't 379 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: know a lot of people tune in to watch the 380 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: Spelling Bee. Spelling be is awesome, So maybe we need 381 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: to start having spelling the while wearing a swimsuit competence. Yes, 382 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 1: I think for Miss America we add in an improv 383 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: section and something to do with cover rolls, you know, 384 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: a cover all competitions, overall competition. I don't know. I'd 385 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: like to see maybe a project Runway element where they 386 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: have to make their evening gown before they wear make 387 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: the evening gown out of coveralls. Boom, I'd watched that. Um, 388 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: But I think that that's the question that I'd like 389 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: to post our listeners is what what would be some 390 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 1: good qualifications for a title of Miss America? And do 391 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: we even need Miss America anymore? Do you even watch it? 392 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: And one final question, should we maybe change Miss America 393 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: to Miss America? Come on, pop stude those of Jim 394 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: you sound like you would have been on that boardwalk 395 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: in which they described as being a groovy day. I 396 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: really wish I could have been a writer in Well, 397 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: we will leave you with that. Why don't we head 398 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: on to a little listener mail. All right, I'm going 399 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: to start off with a listener mail from Katie, who 400 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 1: wrote about our placenta podcast. She writes, I live on 401 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: a cattle ranch in Montana, so I feel confident saying 402 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: that I've seen many more placenta than most people my age, 403 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: which is seventeen. And since you asked what it looked like, 404 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: it is really gross. And I only say this because 405 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 1: there's really no other word. I know you mostly mentioned 406 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: human placenta, but I really can't see how it would 407 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: be much different from a cow's. What I really want 408 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: to tell was that, yes, placent to me have all 409 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 1: sorts of goodies in it, but in my experience it 410 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 1: does more bad than good. The water sack and general 411 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: massive it can cause suffocation if the mother isn't paying attention. Generally, 412 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: the cows will take care of their babies and then 413 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: turn to eating the placenta. My family does not let 414 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: this happened if we can, because they can choke on it. 415 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 1: The last evil placenta is that when dry, it smells 416 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 1: too high heaven. However, there is hope for the stuff. 417 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 1: It is really disgusting, but my dogs love to eat 418 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 1: the placenta that we take away from the cows I 419 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: try to stop it as much as possible, but that's 420 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: not There's not much that I can do. The upside 421 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: of this bad habit is that my dogs have visibly shinier, softer, fickercoats, 422 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 1: and stronger nails during capping season. Sent a dog food. Yes, 423 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: there we go. All right, Well, I have an email 424 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: here from Patrick and he said, I just wanted to 425 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 1: add a shout out to a friend of my family 426 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: back in Yellow Springs, Ohio. This is in reference to 427 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: our podcast we did about female directors. Her name is 428 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: Julia Reichert and she is a writer, director, producer of 429 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: several documentaries, including but not limited to, The Last Truck 430 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: Closing of a GM Plant, which has been nominated for 431 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: an Academy Award for Best Documentary. This is her third nomination. 432 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: I think it would be cool if she got a 433 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 1: shout out on your podcast. Patrick, your wish is my command. 434 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: Here you go. And unfortunately, I think the oscars will 435 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: have probably aired by the time this is going live, 436 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: because this is not happening in real time people. I'm sorry, 437 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: but uh, I really hope that Julie Reichert too Calm 438 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: an Oscar, so good luck and Thanks Patrick, And if 439 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: you would like to drop us a line as well, 440 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 1: you can send us an email at mom stuff at 441 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: how stuff works dot com. And you can also check 442 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 1: out our blog it's called how to Stuff and you 443 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: can check out articles that we have written as well 444 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: on our home how stuff works dot com for more 445 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 1: on this and thousands of other topics. Does it how 446 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: stuff works dot com. Want more how stuff works? 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