WEBVTT - Tornado | EP 5 | Saskia's Story

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<v Speaker 1>On December eighteenth, twenty eighteen, Mike Levinngood was charged with rape.

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<v Speaker 1>The prosecutors spent the next year building the case against him.

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<v Speaker 1>They were going to a jury trial, and the state

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<v Speaker 1>wanted a conviction, so they ran toxicology, consulted with experts,

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<v Speaker 1>combed through online chats, and analyzed every moment of the

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<v Speaker 1>dozens of videos they were able to track down. In

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<v Speaker 1>the end, they gathered over thirty videos Mike had filmed

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<v Speaker 1>without Saskia's consent. In many of them, she was completely

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<v Speaker 1>unconscious and her husband was violating her. Mike was charged

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<v Speaker 1>with thirty one counts of illegal surveillance, and even though

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<v Speaker 1>prosecutors had video evidence of what Mike did, in the end,

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<v Speaker 1>they were only able to bring four counts of rape.

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<v Speaker 1>Under Marilyn law, it was legal to rape your unconscious spouse,

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<v Speaker 1>just so long as it was done without force. If

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<v Speaker 1>he was found guilty of every charge, he could spend

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of his life in prison. That was Saski's hope.

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted him to be in jail, and I felt

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<v Speaker 2>like testifying against him and holding him accountable would get

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<v Speaker 2>me back some of my power.

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<v Speaker 1>But if the jury questioned Saski's story, Mike could walk free.

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<v Speaker 1>For Ashley inder Firth, the lead prosecutor on the case,

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<v Speaker 1>it was nerve wracking.

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<v Speaker 3>This isn't a scenario where it's a fifty to fifty

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<v Speaker 3>and we got to get it to fifty one percent.

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<v Speaker 4>The jury has to believe it beyond a reasonable doubt.

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<v Speaker 1>In the final lead up to the trial, Ashley had

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<v Speaker 1>to pass the case off to another colleague.

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<v Speaker 4>I had to go out on returnity leave.

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<v Speaker 1>She was pregnant with twins and they came early in

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<v Speaker 1>the months after they were born. She practically lived in

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<v Speaker 1>the nick.

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<v Speaker 3>Yew and I was sort of, you know, really not

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<v Speaker 3>thinking about work.

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<v Speaker 4>But this case was an exception.

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<v Speaker 1>The day before Mike's trial was set to begin, Ashley

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<v Speaker 1>was in the hospital. She was at her baby's bedside

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<v Speaker 1>when her phone rang. It was Rebecca mcvittie, the prosecutor

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<v Speaker 1>who took over Saski's case. Ashley answered right away.

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<v Speaker 3>She knew how much I cared about it, and she

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<v Speaker 3>called me to make sure I was okay with what

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<v Speaker 3>she was.

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<v Speaker 4>Going to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Andrea Gunning and this is Betrayal, Season five, Episode five, Tornado.

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<v Speaker 1>Saskia had just started working again after taking a year

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<v Speaker 1>off to manage her trauma. That morning, she was sitting

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<v Speaker 1>in a conference room talking with her fellow social workers,

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<v Speaker 1>but the only thing on her mind was tomorrow's trial.

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<v Speaker 1>She was expecting a call from the prosecutor to let

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<v Speaker 1>her know what time to be there the next day. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>she got a message saying there was news.

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<v Speaker 2>And I said, I had to excuse myself, and I

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<v Speaker 2>went into the psychiatris's office because it was a bigger room,

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<v Speaker 2>and I went and sat on the chair and was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of shaking and just waiting to hear what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>How we were proceeding.

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<v Speaker 1>The minutes crept by. Then, after what felt like an eternity.

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<v Speaker 2>I got the call saying that he made this plea

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<v Speaker 2>deal and they wanted to accept it.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike was pleading guilty. He would serve time and be

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<v Speaker 1>on the sex offender registry for life, but.

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<v Speaker 2>He only had to plead guilty for one count of rape.

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<v Speaker 2>And it kind of felt like it discounted all of

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<v Speaker 2>the times, all of the deceit, all of the manipulation.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like it came down to one incident.

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<v Speaker 1>For a year, Saskia had been preparing to take the

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<v Speaker 1>stand to make Mike answer for what he'd done to

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<v Speaker 1>her in video after video. Now she learned there would

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<v Speaker 1>be only one charge and there would be no trial.

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<v Speaker 2>I felt that my chance to speak my truth was gone,

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<v Speaker 2>and my emotions all the lead up to that just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of drained out of me in tears.

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<v Speaker 1>The decision to go to trial wasn't hers to make

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<v Speaker 1>because the prosecutors don't represent Saskia like attorneys would in

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<v Speaker 1>a civil case. They represent the state of Maryland and

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<v Speaker 1>its citizens as a whole, and they had to be

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<v Speaker 1>realistic with the instructions given to the jury. Would they convict? Remember,

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<v Speaker 1>the law wasn't on Saskia's side. Force was required to

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<v Speaker 1>prosecute spouses for rape.

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<v Speaker 5>But the force was minimal because she was completely incapacitated.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Debbie Feinstein, head of the Special Victim's Division at

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<v Speaker 1>the State's Attorney's Office in Montgomery County. She supervised the case.

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<v Speaker 5>We could see on the videos that he had moved

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<v Speaker 5>parts of her body, and we planned to argue that

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<v Speaker 5>was force.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you have been successful?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, because it's not conventionally what someone thinks

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<v Speaker 5>of when they think of force.

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<v Speaker 1>The burden of proof was incredibly high. Any doubt as

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<v Speaker 1>to whether Mike's actions come instituted forcible rape could throw

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<v Speaker 1>the whole case out the window. He could walk free.

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<v Speaker 1>The state's attorneys also had to think about Saskia. They

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<v Speaker 1>were aware of Saskia's alcohol use, her dependence on prescription medications,

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<v Speaker 1>her mental health history, and her dad's mental health history.

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<v Speaker 1>These were all things that a defense attorney would use

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<v Speaker 1>to turn a jury against her. Here's Ashley, the original prosecutor.

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<v Speaker 3>They're going to be throwing out these things about this

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<v Speaker 3>person to try to undermine their credibility, and that is

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<v Speaker 3>a really hard thing for victims to deal with, and

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<v Speaker 3>it makes it harder for us to prove our case

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<v Speaker 3>beyond a reasonable doubt.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone at the state's attorney's office believed Saskia, they'd seen

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<v Speaker 1>the evidence this woman had been raped, but their belief

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<v Speaker 1>in Saskia and their certainty that this was a crime

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't enough to ensure a conviction. As Debbie told.

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<v Speaker 5>Us, unfortunately, mental health still has stigma around it that

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<v Speaker 5>can impact a juror.

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<v Speaker 4>It shouldn't, but it does.

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<v Speaker 1>With all of this in mind, when Mike said he

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<v Speaker 1>was ready to take a plea. The prosecutors said yes,

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<v Speaker 1>with a plea deal, they'd avoid the risk of a

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<v Speaker 1>jury acquitting Mike. They'd get a guaranteed guilty. When Ashley,

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<v Speaker 1>the original prosecutor, got the news, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Was really glad to hear it.

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<v Speaker 3>Given all of the complexities with this case, I thought

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<v Speaker 3>that him pleading guilty was the very best thing that

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<v Speaker 3>could happen. I told my colleague that I was very

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<v Speaker 3>pleased with what she had been able to work out.

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<v Speaker 1>So the decision was made. There would be no trial,

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<v Speaker 1>but Saskia would still get her day in court because

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<v Speaker 1>after Mike took the plea, he had a sentence in hearing.

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<v Speaker 1>At this hearing, Judge Jill Cummins would determine exactly how

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<v Speaker 1>long Mike would spend behind bars. Saskia walked down the

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<v Speaker 1>center aisle into the courtroom with her sister, brothers and

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<v Speaker 1>friends by her side.

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<v Speaker 2>We were just all so excited for at least this

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<v Speaker 2>piece of this terrible process to be behind me and

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<v Speaker 2>behind us, and for him to at least be taken

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<v Speaker 2>away in shackles for doing what he did.

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<v Speaker 1>The courtroom was emptier than she'd imagined it. It was

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<v Speaker 1>just a handful of spectators, some attorneys, some clerks, and

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<v Speaker 1>the judge. Sitting at the front of the room where

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<v Speaker 1>the jury would have been were twelve vacant chairs. Saskia,

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<v Speaker 1>her friends and family took their seats in the gallery.

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<v Speaker 2>We're just pretty dead, silent, waiting for the case to

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<v Speaker 2>be called and waiting for Mike to be brought in.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the doors opened. In walked Mike. Saska's friend

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<v Speaker 1>Bridget recalls seeing him that day. He was wearing a

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<v Speaker 1>suit and brand new white sneakers. At a glance, he

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<v Speaker 1>was put together, but the outfit didn't fool her.

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<v Speaker 6>He looked gaunt, and he had lost a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>weight from stress. And that's only because he knew he

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<v Speaker 6>got caught. You would think that you would put your

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<v Speaker 6>head down or just have some level of remorse or shame,

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<v Speaker 6>and he didn't. He looked straight at me and then

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<v Speaker 6>looked straight ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>It gave me chills.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike took his seat next to his two attorneys. The

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<v Speaker 1>sentencing hearing was ready to begin. What we're about to

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<v Speaker 1>play for you are real excerpts from that day.

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<v Speaker 7>Falk from Fast one three Bods zero six thirty staying

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<v Speaker 7>around as Michael Paul Leving didn't been.

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<v Speaker 8>A morning all.

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<v Speaker 1>The hearing began with a statement by one of Mike's

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<v Speaker 1>defense attorneys. He was determined to get the minimum possible

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<v Speaker 1>penalty for his client, and he pulled out every stop

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<v Speaker 1>to make that happen.

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<v Speaker 9>Every scene has a passed and every sinner has a future,

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<v Speaker 9>and Mike, the great parts of him will continue and

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<v Speaker 9>dominate for the rest of his life in this particular case.

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<v Speaker 9>Regarding the conduct here, mister Leavenood' every sands that he

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<v Speaker 9>is unacceptable, and I'm very confident as I stand here

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<v Speaker 9>today that he has internalized that.

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<v Speaker 1>The attorney had witnesses prepared to testify to Mike's strong character,

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<v Speaker 1>and he had letters from Mike's family, friends, and coworkers

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<v Speaker 1>all saying the same thing. Mike was a good man

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<v Speaker 1>and kind to others.

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<v Speaker 9>He has been empathetic to others. He has been non

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<v Speaker 9>self centered. He's been a giving person and an excellent dad,

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<v Speaker 9>and an excellent employee and friend to dozens throughout his life.

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<v Speaker 1>On top of that, Mike had been given a psych evaluation.

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<v Speaker 1>It's commonly done in criminal cases to help inform sentencing decisions.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike's evaluator said he was a low risk to society.

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<v Speaker 1>He wasn't a danger to other women. As Mike's attorney argued,

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<v Speaker 1>this crime was a misstep in an otherwise perfect life.

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<v Speaker 9>When you get in the mix of the tornado and

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<v Speaker 9>whirlwind of pornography addiction or pornography fixation, however you want

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<v Speaker 9>to characterize it, it kind of twirls you out of

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<v Speaker 9>control at certain moments. And again, there's nothing that takes

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<v Speaker 9>away in anything that I'm saying on his own responsibility,

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<v Speaker 9>in his own agency and his own free will. What

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<v Speaker 9>I do think that this was part of this kind

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<v Speaker 9>of hailstorm or tornado is the best thing I could

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<v Speaker 9>think about him. We find oftoral into these and we

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<v Speaker 9>would say unacceptable criminal series of conduct.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike's other attorney also made remarks, and of course he

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<v Speaker 1>brought up the marital exemption.

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<v Speaker 7>Much of the most offensive behavior in this case was

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<v Speaker 7>actually this legal under the law right, which has no

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<v Speaker 7>bearing on whether or not it's moral, appropriate, desired, or right.

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<v Speaker 7>But as it was, this case was difficult because incapacitation

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<v Speaker 7>is not a grounds of sexual assault. With your spouts

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<v Speaker 7>in Maryland, and the hours of footage that were presented

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<v Speaker 7>by the state were largely of somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>Incapacitated, and then he snuck in another argument, there were also.

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<v Speaker 7>Hours and hours of footage of mutual, completely different conduct

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<v Speaker 7>that was sexual in nature and was pornographic. It was

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<v Speaker 7>completely within their marriage and completely within the two of them,

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<v Speaker 7>and purely for their own private and join them.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to underscore what's happening here. Mike was pleading guilty.

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<v Speaker 1>According to his lawyers, he took full responsibility for what

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<v Speaker 1>he did to Saskia. He was sorry. But in the

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<v Speaker 1>same breath, Mike's defense team was trying to discredit Saskia.

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<v Speaker 1>They were trying to convince the judge that Saskia did

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<v Speaker 1>consent in hopes of getting Mike less time. This was

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<v Speaker 1>all one big misunderstanding. You'll hear the judges take on

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<v Speaker 1>that later in the episode, but for now, back to

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<v Speaker 1>Mike's attorney.

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<v Speaker 7>Mister Leventhood was in a committed marriage. He did not

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<v Speaker 7>ever cheat on her, did not in any way stray

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<v Speaker 7>from loving her. His commitment to her was real, and

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<v Speaker 7>the things that he shared with her were real. However,

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<v Speaker 7>perverse and raw and misguided and based on so many

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<v Speaker 7>codependent and bad things, they were real. He has accepted

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<v Speaker 7>responsibility for this position, and he will accept the punishment,

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<v Speaker 7>and he will go to jail today, someone who's never

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<v Speaker 7>been in jail, who was successful, who is while this

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<v Speaker 7>was going on, making two hundred two hundred fifty thousand

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<v Speaker 7>dollars a year and living a life for him that

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<v Speaker 7>was in many ways perfect, that was on paper everything

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<v Speaker 7>that you would want. His life will be ruined by this.

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<v Speaker 7>He will be a lifetime registrant on the sex Vendor Registry,

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<v Speaker 7>He will be instantly judged by anyone who meets him.

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<v Speaker 7>He will be restricted on where he can live, and

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<v Speaker 7>so many other things. And he has gotten a lot

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<v Speaker 7>of perspective himself from what is important from this whole thing.

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<v Speaker 7>Losing everything can help you see the material matters that

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<v Speaker 7>really matter to being happy and being safe and secure.

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<v Speaker 1>With that, he asked to judge to give Mike the

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<v Speaker 1>lowest possible sentence, and then it was the state's turn.

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<v Speaker 1>The prosecutor, Rebecca mcvittie, stood up before the judge.

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<v Speaker 10>This is a familiar situation for the court in the

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<v Speaker 10>sense that we have a defendant that, during the light

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<v Speaker 10>of day, in all regards, is looked at as a

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<v Speaker 10>contributing member of society, somebody who is lovable and likable,

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<v Speaker 10>and that is exactly the aspect of the defendant's personality

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<v Speaker 10>that allowed miss Inwood to fall for him, to love him,

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<v Speaker 10>and to trust him. But these types of crimes, is

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<v Speaker 10>the court seen over and over again, are not committed

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<v Speaker 10>in the light of day. They are committed in darkness

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<v Speaker 10>after that trust has been established. That is the reason

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<v Speaker 10>that this betrayal is so intense for miss Inwood. It's

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<v Speaker 10>defense council mentioned this resolution is a compromise under the

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<v Speaker 10>current State of Maryland law. If the state was not

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<v Speaker 10>concluded from going forward on rape charges under the incapacitation theory,

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<v Speaker 10>the state would be looking at hours and hours of

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<v Speaker 10>more footage, countless more accounts of second degree rape, as

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<v Speaker 10>the defendant himself admits repeatedly engaging in sexual acts while

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<v Speaker 10>miss Inwood was completely unconscious. Defense counsel referenced that this

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<v Speaker 10>is a tornado of pornography addiction, but a tornado comes

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<v Speaker 10>and goes in moments. From October twenty, twenty seventeen until

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<v Speaker 10>October twenty fifth, twenty eighteen, about a year, the defendant

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<v Speaker 10>that we know of videotape miss in Wood while she

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<v Speaker 10>was unconscious or inebriated over thirty times.

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<v Speaker 8>That is not a tornado.

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<v Speaker 10>That is a year of perpetuating discontinualb betrayal of trust

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<v Speaker 10>over and over again with the person he was supposed

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<v Speaker 10>to protect the most.

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<v Speaker 1>Rebecca then described the contents of one of the videos

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<v Speaker 1>Mike took. Because the charges on paper could never capture

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<v Speaker 1>what was in those videos, it feels important to Saskia

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<v Speaker 1>and to us for people to know the extent of

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<v Speaker 1>Mike's crimes. But if you'd like to skip hearing these details,

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<v Speaker 1>you can fast forward one minute.

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<v Speaker 8>In one of the videos, with the state provided.

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<v Speaker 10>To the court, Miss Inwood is a sleep unconscious, however

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<v Speaker 10>you'd like to say it. About fourteen minutes into her

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<v Speaker 10>being unconscious, she pushes the defendant away and it looks

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<v Speaker 10>like she mounts the words stop. After that happened, the

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<v Speaker 10>defendant continues to perform sexual acts with her, including digital

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<v Speaker 10>penetration of her vagina, inserting sex toys in her vagina,

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<v Speaker 10>and at the end you see that he just leaves

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<v Speaker 10>the camera on while she's unconscious.

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<v Speaker 7>In that bad.

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<v Speaker 10>There is no doubt that over the course of the year,

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<v Speaker 10>the defendant waited till she was unconscious to get online

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<v Speaker 10>and chat and exchange pornographic videos for tokens or coins

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<v Speaker 10>or payment of some sort. He perpetrated every woman's fear

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<v Speaker 10>by taking her voice, her choice in the matter, and

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<v Speaker 10>he left her powerless to protect herself.

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<v Speaker 1>Finally, Rebecca brought up the psych evaluation, the one given

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<v Speaker 1>to Mike, where the psychologist concluded that he was a

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<v Speaker 1>low risk to society. She said there was one thing

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<v Speaker 1>missing from that assessment.

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<v Speaker 10>Deem and his sex offender evaluation was actually never given

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<v Speaker 10>a copy of these videos. He was given descriptions by

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<v Speaker 10>the defense as to what these videos entail. It is

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<v Speaker 10>a dramatic difference from reading the words on the statement

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<v Speaker 10>of charges to watching that betrayal, that abuse, and the

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<v Speaker 10>disturbing act that the defendant chose to record.

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<v Speaker 1>And with that, the prosecutor concluded her argument. She asked

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<v Speaker 1>the judge for the maximum possible sentence under the Plea

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<v Speaker 1>agreement for Saskia. The speech was validating.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like, yes, we've had to go through this

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<v Speaker 2>painful process, but we didn't doubt that he was guilty.

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<v Speaker 1>The prosecutor sat back at her desk, but before Judge

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<v Speaker 1>Cummins could make her set dancing decision. There was still

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<v Speaker 1>two people left to hear from.

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<v Speaker 10>Her sister would like to speak, and then this would like.

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<v Speaker 8>To be heard absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>Saskia and her sister Marisa had prepared victim impact statements.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be Saskia's one chance to address Mike on

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<v Speaker 1>the record, and it would be her only opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>show the judge who Mike Levinngood really was. Marisa stood

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<v Speaker 1>up and addressed the court.

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<v Speaker 8>Michael leaving good. You have no shame.

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<v Speaker 11>You sit here and deny your wrongdoing in the face

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<v Speaker 11>of irrefutable evidence that you're a rapist. We her family

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<v Speaker 11>and friends, we know what you did.

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<v Speaker 8>She truth clearly.

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<v Speaker 11>I know when it all started, even before the date

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<v Speaker 11>was shared today, because she was deteriorating mentally visibly right

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<v Speaker 11>before our eyes. And we have no explanation as to

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<v Speaker 11>why I went with her with you sometimes to multiple

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<v Speaker 11>doctors and hospitals trying to find out what was wrong

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<v Speaker 11>with her. No one could answer how she could get well.

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<v Speaker 11>I recall vividly one night shortly after her mother died,

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<v Speaker 11>which I will share the That date was September thirtieth,

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<v Speaker 11>twenty seventeen, right before the videos began.

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<v Speaker 8>When, despite drinking no more than anyone else, she was.

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<v Speaker 11>Suddenly and surprisingly so incapacitated that she could not walk.

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<v Speaker 11>Everyone was so concerned what had happened. She was signed

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<v Speaker 11>one minute and then not the next. We thought about

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<v Speaker 11>taking her to the hospital, but he was so calm,

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<v Speaker 11>always in charge, always in control, less concerned than others,

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<v Speaker 11>and reassured me personally that she would be fine, that

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<v Speaker 11>he was there to take care of her. And now

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<v Speaker 11>I have to wonder, based on that date, did you

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<v Speaker 11>drug her that night or did you just encourage her

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<v Speaker 11>to drink. Did you set up your cameras and final

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<v Speaker 11>and manipulate her body while she was not aware and

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<v Speaker 11>could not physically resist you. I know on my bones

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<v Speaker 11>that you did. What affects me most is your cockiness

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<v Speaker 11>in those videos.

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<v Speaker 8>Well you felt how powerful to be able to do this.

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<v Speaker 11>Without anyone knowing, to be able to pull it off

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<v Speaker 11>time after time, and then put on your good husband

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<v Speaker 11>mask during the day and rape the rewards of a

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<v Speaker 11>beautiful home and a loving wife, your honor. Even now

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<v Speaker 11>I feel my words are probably lost on him. He

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<v Speaker 11>has only been concerned about himself and his consequences and

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<v Speaker 11>his future life. Don't let him displaced lame onto his victim.

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<v Speaker 8>Don't let other husbands or wives think they can do

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<v Speaker 8>whatever they want to their spouses.

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<v Speaker 11>Ensure that all people know having effect with an unconscious

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<v Speaker 11>person is called rape, even when you're married to them.

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<v Speaker 8>Thank you, Rol, Thank you Mam.

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<v Speaker 1>Then after Marisa, it was finally Saskia's turn. With her

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<v Speaker 1>paper shaking in her hand, she walked up to a

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<v Speaker 1>table between the prosecution and the defense. Her body was

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<v Speaker 1>towards the judge, but really she wanted to deliver the

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<v Speaker 1>speech to Mike.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew not to expect any empathy or remorse, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think that drove me even more. The only thing

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<v Speaker 2>that I can get is for him to have to

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<v Speaker 2>sit with what he did to me.

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<v Speaker 12>Let me start by shame. There's not enough jail time

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<v Speaker 12>for you that will make me feel safe or give

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<v Speaker 12>me back what I had before you. Victim, ximy, you

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<v Speaker 12>deserved a maximum possible sentence. He pretended to be a

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<v Speaker 12>loving husband, and yet you were my attacker.

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<v Speaker 11>I posted pictures and videos of your crimes against my body.

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<v Speaker 8>On the Internet for people to watch.

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<v Speaker 13>I suffered embarrassment and a shame that I don't deserve.

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<v Speaker 8>I never deserve it.

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<v Speaker 13>What makes you stick to my stubmach to think about

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<v Speaker 13>the hours and hours those images being launched by strangers.

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<v Speaker 8>Maybe the worst part.

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<v Speaker 13>Was when I woke up to catch and filming me,

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<v Speaker 13>and then to finally see evil in your eyes.

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<v Speaker 8>And that's exactly what I saw. No remorse, no caring,

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<v Speaker 8>no sympathy, a cold and empty man. And at that

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<v Speaker 8>point I knew and no amount of money, a.

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<v Speaker 12>Personal discomfort which stopped me from pursuing justice.

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<v Speaker 13>So if you were not able to pray on other

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<v Speaker 13>vulnerable women, you pretended to support me through my ups

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<v Speaker 13>and downs. Number one flitting on that you were using me.

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<v Speaker 13>I had no idea that the cause of my misgy

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<v Speaker 13>was lying in the bed.

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<v Speaker 14>Next to me.

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<v Speaker 13>You deserve to go to jail with the people who

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<v Speaker 13>are real dangerous to society. You're a dangerous person who

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<v Speaker 13>prays on vulnerable and trusting people.

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<v Speaker 8>Your sexual predator, Michael Loving Good.

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<v Speaker 12>You took away my ability to feel shape and to

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<v Speaker 12>trust mebody moholeheartedly.

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<v Speaker 13>It took away from me my happiness and I'll never

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<v Speaker 13>be the same because of the able.

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<v Speaker 8>Thank you. Misson one.

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<v Speaker 1>After Saskia Mike was offered the last word. This would

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<v Speaker 1>have been the moment to take accountability or to apologize.

0:25:16.200 --> 0:25:21.639
<v Speaker 1>He chose to say nothing. At last, it came time

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<v Speaker 1>for Judge Jill Cummins to deliver Mike's sentence.

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<v Speaker 14>As very familiar with the statement of charges, knew what

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<v Speaker 14>you were accused of. I'm very familiar with the facts

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<v Speaker 14>of the case, but intellectually knowing the facts of the

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<v Speaker 14>case is very different from watching those videos.

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<v Speaker 1>Judge Jill Cummins had been prepared for a full criminal trial.

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<v Speaker 1>She'd presided over the case for months, hearing all kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of motions and pre trial arguments. At this point, she

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<v Speaker 1>knew the case well. Much of the time, at sentencing hearings,

0:26:24.680 --> 0:26:29.680
<v Speaker 1>judges give brief explanations of their decision. Some judges give

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<v Speaker 1>no speech at all. Judge Jill Cummins was no such judge.

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<v Speaker 14>Mister Lovinggood, what I will tell you is I've read

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<v Speaker 14>every letter that everyone has submitted on your behalf, your

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<v Speaker 14>letters from your daughters, your coworkers, your friends, your ex wife,

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<v Speaker 14>and everyone has the same impression of you as a fine,

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<v Speaker 14>outstanding person. But interestingly, with the exception i'd say of

0:26:54.520 --> 0:26:58.840
<v Speaker 14>your ex wife, your friends, your coworkers. They don't know

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<v Speaker 14>what happens behind bedroom doors and what people do in

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<v Speaker 14>the privacy of their own homes. As you know, I've

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<v Speaker 14>lived with this case for almost the last year now,

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<v Speaker 14>and what I will say is I was very familiar

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<v Speaker 14>with the statement of charges, knew what you were accused of,

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<v Speaker 14>had read it several times every time you had appeared

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<v Speaker 14>before me for pre trial statuses.

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<v Speaker 8>Emotion to everything.

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<v Speaker 14>I'm very familiar with the facts of the case, but

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<v Speaker 14>intellectually knowing the facts of the case is very different

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<v Speaker 14>from watching those videos. Not easy to watch those videos

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<v Speaker 14>at all.

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<v Speaker 1>The judge had only just seen those videos in preparation

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<v Speaker 1>for the sentencing. They shifted her entire understanding of the case.

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<v Speaker 14>It was clear to me that force was exercised in

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<v Speaker 14>those videos. It was clear to me that mss Enwood

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<v Speaker 14>was comatose, not asleep, but comatose unconscious.

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<v Speaker 8>Absolutely, it was clear to me that you.

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<v Speaker 14>Were enjoying yourself, that you weren't just taping this on

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<v Speaker 14>the laptop. It looked like you had to have on

0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:26.439
<v Speaker 14>some I couldn't describe it anything other as like a

0:28:26.480 --> 0:28:33.040
<v Speaker 14>GoPro video thing, taping as you were maneuvering yourself and her.

0:28:33.680 --> 0:28:39.040
<v Speaker 14>You added semestra cameras there.

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<v Speaker 8>For camera angles.

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<v Speaker 14>So reading the statement of charges and knowing the statement

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<v Speaker 14>of charges was one thing, Watching those videos was something

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<v Speaker 14>completely completely different. What was clear to me was that

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<v Speaker 14>was no consensual behavior. It was disturbing and the life

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<v Speaker 14>that you had led. I do not diminish that your education,

0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:10.320
<v Speaker 14>your success that you've had in the business arena, but

0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:12.040
<v Speaker 14>you have victimized miss Mwood.

0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:16.560
<v Speaker 8>The damage done to her is probably irreparable.

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<v Speaker 14>Knowing that those videos are out there for the world

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<v Speaker 14>to see.

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<v Speaker 1>Then the judge addressed the psych evaluation.

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<v Speaker 8>After watching those videos.

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<v Speaker 14>The very first question in my mind was to doctor

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<v Speaker 14>Dean watch those videos when he rendered his evaluation. And

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<v Speaker 14>MS mcvidio answered that question for me this morning and

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<v Speaker 14>it was no, he didn't.

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<v Speaker 8>Watch those videos.

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<v Speaker 14>So I now definitely take doctor Dean's evaluation with the

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<v Speaker 14>grant assault knowing that he didn't see the videos to

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<v Speaker 14>understand the conduct that makes up these charges.

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<v Speaker 8>And I did have some concern when I read the

0:30:03.400 --> 0:30:05.960
<v Speaker 8>evaluation that there did.

0:30:05.760 --> 0:30:10.040
<v Speaker 14>Seemed to be some lack of acceptance or responsibility on

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<v Speaker 14>your part or the crime that you pled guilty to.

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<v Speaker 14>And as I read this evaluation. I didn't take this

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<v Speaker 14>as you were saying that I was wrong, I shouldn't

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<v Speaker 14>have done this. It was we started down this path

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<v Speaker 14>and she told me that when she passed out, I

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<v Speaker 14>could do whatever I wanted to her. That's not someone

0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:39.120
<v Speaker 14>who's sang I know what I did was wrong. That's

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<v Speaker 14>someone saying, well, she said I could do whatever I

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<v Speaker 14>want to her when she was comatose. After watching those videos,

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<v Speaker 14>I don't believe that that's what she said. So I'm

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<v Speaker 14>in the position of finding that you were not truly

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<v Speaker 14>accepting of your guilt or responsibility.

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<v Speaker 8>In this case. Mister Leventhood, you are a predator to

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<v Speaker 8>miss Inwood.

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<v Speaker 14>Mister Leventhood, you have received the benefit of a FLEA agreement.

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<v Speaker 8>Your guidelines are four to nine years.

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<v Speaker 1>She's referring to the sentencing guidelines per second degree rape.

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<v Speaker 1>If the case had gone to trial. These are the

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<v Speaker 1>instructions the judge would have used to ensure fair sentencing.

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<v Speaker 14>Your attorneys in the state have negotiated a very good

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<v Speaker 14>range for you based upon those guidelines, so as to

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<v Speaker 14>count one second degree rate. I'm going to send you

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<v Speaker 14>to fifteen years suspend all but eighteen months.

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<v Speaker 1>Suspend all but eighteen months. The judge believed Mike's crimes

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<v Speaker 1>warranted a fifteen year sentence, but his defense team had

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<v Speaker 1>struck a deal with the state. As part of the

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<v Speaker 1>plea agreement, they decided on a maximum amount of time

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<v Speaker 1>Mike would spend behind bars eighteen months. Eighteen months is

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<v Speaker 1>a magic number in Montgomery County. It meant that Mike

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<v Speaker 1>would go to county jail instead of state prison. Saskia

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<v Speaker 1>first heard that number on her call with Rebecca, the prosecutor.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the same call where she learned there would

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<v Speaker 1>be no trial, which she heard that Mike would only

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<v Speaker 1>serve a maximum of eighteen months. She was devastated.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't tell you how wrong that felt.

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<v Speaker 1>Her sister, Marisa, tried to help her see the positives

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<v Speaker 1>of the plea.

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<v Speaker 15>We try to focus on the guilty plea. You know,

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<v Speaker 15>he's a sex offender for life. These are big deals,

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<v Speaker 15>but it didn't feel equivalent to like what he'd taken

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<v Speaker 15>from her. He deserves more time, and it was a

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<v Speaker 15>slap in the face that he didn't get more time.

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<v Speaker 1>The prosecutors knew Saskia wanted Mike in prison for life,

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<v Speaker 1>but victim's perspectives are only one element that they weigh

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<v Speaker 1>in making plea agreements.

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<v Speaker 5>We're constantly balancing how are we going to hold the

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<v Speaker 5>offender accountable for what they did, how are we going

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<v Speaker 5>to try to help the victim get some closure on

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<v Speaker 5>the criminal case? And then public safety, what are we

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<v Speaker 5>doing in terms of protecting the public from this offender.

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<v Speaker 1>To the prosecutors, eighteen months plus a guarantee that Mike

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<v Speaker 1>would be on the Sex Offender Registry for life was

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<v Speaker 1>a win. On that day in court when the judge

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<v Speaker 1>handed down the sentence, Marisa was moved.

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<v Speaker 15>Oh God, that was just an amazing That was amazing.

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<v Speaker 15>I feel like the judge just saw, you know, the

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<v Speaker 15>judge saw everything. Even though we knew he was going

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<v Speaker 15>to get eighteen months, we knew that was going to

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<v Speaker 15>be the outcome.

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<v Speaker 4>We knew we were going to have a.

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<v Speaker 15>Chance to speak and to tell him you did this,

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<v Speaker 15>and we know you did this. I didn't realize that

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<v Speaker 15>there was going to be that huge validation.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's Saskia.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember the attorneys and him whispering something to each other,

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<v Speaker 2>and he got up and the bailiff went to meet him.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike was handcuffed and led out the front doors.

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<v Speaker 2>And my friend Bridget tried to snap a photo.

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<v Speaker 1>Before Mike could get away. Saskia's friend Bridget pulled out

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<v Speaker 1>her phone.

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<v Speaker 6>I just wanted to record him getting handcuffed and walking

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<v Speaker 6>off so that I could show Saskia he is where

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<v Speaker 6>he needs to be, and I wanted her to be

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<v Speaker 6>able to see that, so that she could have that

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<v Speaker 6>replay in her head and not have all these terrible

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<v Speaker 6>memories replay in her head. I had pulled my phone

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<v Speaker 6>up and I thought I was being inconspicuous, but he

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<v Speaker 6>looked over at me and was like, your honor.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not supposed to take photos or videos in the courtroom.

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<v Speaker 1>Saskia's other friend, Colleen remembers Mike's reaction, well.

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<v Speaker 16>He looked around frantically for the judge to help him.

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<v Speaker 16>His dismay at everyone watching him and recording him in

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<v Speaker 16>the violation that he expressed was very ironic.

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<v Speaker 1>Saska wishes this moment of seeing her perpetrator taken to

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<v Speaker 1>jail would have fixed everything.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it would heal a part of me. I

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<v Speaker 2>thought it would heal me feeling like a helpless victim.

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<v Speaker 1>She thought she'd be relieved. Instead, I just had anger

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<v Speaker 1>and hatred.

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<v Speaker 2>I had sadness and loss for the person that I

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<v Speaker 2>thought he was, but that person died.

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<v Speaker 1>Saskia had a lot of healing to do, but that

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<v Speaker 1>healing had to happen beyond the courtroom. For perpetrators, jail

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<v Speaker 1>or prison can be a final destination, but for victims,

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<v Speaker 1>that jail sentence is just the beginning. It's something Ashley,

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<v Speaker 1>the prosecutor, often tells victims.

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<v Speaker 3>The result of the criminal case can't be the beyond

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<v Speaker 3>and end all. Even if we win and get every

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<v Speaker 3>single count. Somebody that you loved and cared about and

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<v Speaker 3>married is going to prison for a long time. That's

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<v Speaker 3>hard too. Or there's an acquittal, you've internalize that a

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<v Speaker 3>jury didn't believe you. So the criminal justice system can

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<v Speaker 3>be a part of your healing, but it can't be

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<v Speaker 3>all of it because it's not going.

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<v Speaker 12>To do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Finally, Mike was in jail, but having him behind bars

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<v Speaker 1>didn't mean he was out of Saskia's life.

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<v Speaker 2>He was smart enough to know that this was gonna

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<v Speaker 2>now be a family law case.

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<v Speaker 1>The criminal matter was finalized, but the legal battle wasn't over,

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<v Speaker 1>not by a long shot. On the next episode of Betrayal.

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<v Speaker 8>She was really repressed.

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<v Speaker 7>There was don'cuse on her part more than I. When

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<v Speaker 7>she starts drinking, she doesn't stop.

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<v Speaker 2>I felt it goes on the twilight zone. The fact

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<v Speaker 2>that the judges were even listening to these things was

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<v Speaker 2>blowing my mind.

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