1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast. 2 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 1: Chris Harrison coming to you from the home office in Austin, Texas. 3 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: On the show today is Mark Wahlberg. So I know 4 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: what you're thinking, and I'm just going to say right now, 5 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,159 Speaker 1: and I know this might cost me listeners, It's not 6 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: that Mark Wahlberg. And when I say Mark Wahlberg, immediately 7 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: think obviously of them make a movie star. But you 8 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: also may think, wait, is that the guy that does 9 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: Temptation Island Antique road Show? And the funny thing is, 10 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: first of all, yes, that is the Mark Wahlberg I'm 11 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: talking about. He does Temptation Island, his game shows, and 12 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 1: he did Antique road Show. The reason I wanted to 13 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 1: bring Mark on is he and I have had this 14 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: crazy past that is, Chris crossed each other. We both 15 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: kind of hit the scene hosting about the same time 16 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: in the late nineties early two thousands in Hollywood, and 17 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: he was there a little bit before me, working with 18 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: Dick Clark Productions. But I came in and started doing 19 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: stuff for Game Show Network. He was doing stuff for 20 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: Game Show Network. There was this group of us that 21 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 1: we're all grinding, and we get called into auditions at 22 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: the same time. So we all knew each other, we 23 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: were all friendly, and we all kind of respected each 24 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: other lifted each other up because it was such a 25 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: grind and a tumultuous time of trying to get our 26 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: footing and get a hold in this business, and we 27 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 1: all did. Mark has gone on to do incredible things. 28 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 1: But it's funny to this day, I will get asked 29 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 1: about doing Antique Roadshow and if I love that show 30 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: or did I enjoy Temptation Island. I have to say people, no, no, 31 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: I'm not Mark Wahlberg. That's I hosted The Bachelor, and 32 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: I know that he has gotten the same thing for 33 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: so many years about hosting The Bachelor or all you know, 34 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: my Home and Garden show. So I wanted to have 35 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: Mark Wahlberg on, first of all, to say we are 36 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: two different people, but also to catch up because he 37 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: is an amazing guy. He has a beautiful family, and 38 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: he has such great perspective on this business where we 39 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: came from, but also where this business is going. So 40 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: today a conversation with Mark Wahlberg, No, not that one. 41 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: And he joins me now on the most dramatic podcast 42 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: ever market's so good to see my friend. It has 43 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: been a long time. 44 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 2: It has been a long time. Thanks for having me on. 45 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 2: I appreciate it. 46 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: Are you in La? 47 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 2: I am his Iam in beautiful Sonny Sherman Oaks. 48 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: I'm in a beautiful, rainy Austin, Texas. 49 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 2: That's a good place to be. 50 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: It's a great place to be. 51 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: Are you. 52 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 1: Are you an LA guy? 53 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 3: No? 54 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 2: I mean I've I've lived here longer than most people 55 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 2: have been alive. But I'm from South Carolina. 56 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: Okay, you're born and raised South Carolina. 57 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 2: Born in Georgia, but raised in South Carolina. And when 58 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: did you cop around a little bit through the South? 59 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 2: I live in Alabama little bit and stuff like that. 60 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: But when did you come to La? 61 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 2: I came to La. I left home between my freshman 62 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 2: sophomore year colleg and I went on the road a 63 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 2: little bit. I was in northern Michigan and on the 64 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 2: road that ended up coming out to Los Angeles. I said, 65 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: I take a gap year and I'm still waiting to 66 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 2: go back to college. 67 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: How's that working out for you? 68 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 2: It's pretty good. I just got to get a tuition together. 69 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. Hey, And by the way, the longer you wait, 70 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: the more expensive it gets, as we both know, with 71 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: two kids, and. 72 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 2: I'm not eligible for any scholarship, either academic or sports. 73 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, man. Some of these punters now are 74 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: like thirty five years old, the punters and kickers, these 75 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: Australian kids are coming over. I'm like they may have 76 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 1: it all figured out, like the midlife crisis is now 77 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: going to be going back to school. Yeah, where were 78 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: you in college? 79 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 2: I went to Francis Marion College which is now Francis 80 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 2: Marion University. It was outside of my hometown. I was 81 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: really all at the time I could afford to do. 82 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: And wow, you went to a smaller school than I did. 83 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: I went to Oklahoma City University again, same thing. I 84 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: had a soccer scholarship. It's what my family could afford. 85 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: And yeah, it's so clearly Mark and I prove how 86 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: important it is that you go to a really big 87 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: name school to make it in this world. 88 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 2: That's right. I always tell people, I went to several 89 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 2: weeks of college, pretty much checked all the boxes and 90 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: figured I'd take it from there. 91 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: As I said in the intro, one of the many 92 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: reasons I wanted to have you on is if there 93 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: is somebody that I get mistaken for and have been 94 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: mistaken for throughout my career. It's Mark Wahlberg. 95 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 2: So you know, I was thinking about this this morning, 96 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 2: that the only time we've actually kind of worked together. 97 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 98 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember this. He was the 99 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 2: red carpet for E for the Golden Globes and I 100 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 2: was up in the balcony doing something. You were on 101 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 2: the red carpet. I had to throw to you or 102 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 2: you through to me. I can't remember if I set 103 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 2: or you said it, but something the effect of and 104 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 2: to prove that we're not the same person on our 105 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 2: throw to Chris Harrison. 106 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I did it. I told the producers I said, hey, 107 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: I want a two box of Mark and I because 108 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: for once and for all, we need to show that 109 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: we are two different human beings. It was really funny that, 110 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 1: you know, when I first came to LA there was 111 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 1: like a group of like four or five of us. 112 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: It was you, There was a guy named Brian Blakeley, 113 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: and if you remember him, Todd Newton was was bopping around, 114 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: and so there was like a group of us that 115 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: these casting directors would always call because we would always 116 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: give great auditions and we all ended up getting work. 117 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: It was a really talented group of people, and I 118 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: enjoyed watching you get gigs at Game Show Network. I 119 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 1: got one at Game Show Network. We did our Home 120 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: and Garden show. You were doing antique road show, and 121 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: so it was funny to watch all of us kind 122 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: of find our niche and do that. We all kind 123 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: of came out. It was late nineties, early two thousands 124 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: when we all kind of broke in. 125 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 2: About that time. That was a but that was when, 126 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 2: you know, being a TV host as a as a 127 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 2: profession was a thing and now as much a thing. 128 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, it definitely has evolved and changed. It was a 129 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: group of us that, you know, it's like, this is 130 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: what we wanted to do. You know. My background was 131 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: local news and I was like, I am a host. 132 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: That's all I want to do is host TV. And 133 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: you were kind of the same. 134 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 2: Well, I mean that's not entirely true. Mine was I 135 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 2: don't know how to do anything else. I was working 136 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 2: in production. Yeah, my whole career was by default. I 137 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 2: got engaged and then married to my wife, who was 138 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 2: at the time an actress, and then I thought maybe 139 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: that's what I wanted to do. And then walking down 140 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 2: the aisle, I said, one of us has to get 141 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 2: a job. So I got a job at Dick Clark 142 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 2: Productions as a PA. And my whole thing was to 143 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,239 Speaker 2: get out and figure out a way to make a living. Cause, 144 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 2: like I said, I didn't have a degree or anything. 145 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 2: It was just by happenstance. I ended up posting stuff 146 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 2: and then I'm like, well, this is a lot easier 147 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 2: than lifting or you know, thinking, so I'll do this. 148 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: What was what bridge that gap? 149 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 2: A warm up guy didn't show up one day and 150 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 2: Dick Clark said, get the funny kid from upstairs, and 151 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 2: that was me. 152 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: That's how it started. You started to tell that was. 153 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 2: The left turn. And then you know, people started saying, 154 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 2: you know, can you call and stay for work and 155 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 2: come do warm up for me? And then I think 156 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 2: I got a job. Somebody wanted me to do warm 157 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 2: up and when I showed up, they said, we don't 158 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 2: have a budget for warm up and we need an announcer, 159 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 2: and I'm like, well, I know how to read. 160 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: It was there's three weeks of college that prepared me 161 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: for this. 162 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 2: That's exactly right. 163 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: And then you went on what was kind of the 164 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: first big gig was it was a GSN good game show. 165 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 2: Yes, N was after I had already i think, lost 166 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 2: my career and gotten it back already. 167 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 168 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 2: I think the first show I hosted was like eighty seven, 169 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 2: No ninety I'm looking at my wife. It was ninety 170 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 2: two because my wife was pregnant with our first So 171 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 2: that's the first time I was on camera. And then 172 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 2: I did Shop Do You Drop as a sidekick sort 173 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:49,239 Speaker 2: of announcer on camera for that, and then a bunch 174 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 2: of At the time, and I tell people this, at 175 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 2: the time, you could do like four different cable networks 176 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 2: and still not make a living. So I was like 177 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 2: on camera with like four different shows on different networks, 178 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 2: but still having to do warm up to make a living. 179 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: When I came out here in ninety nine, I did 180 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: a game I had TVG the Horse Racing Network. I 181 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: had a Designers Challenge on HGTV, and then I had 182 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: done seasons one and two of The Bachelor. I was 183 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: doing all three at the same time, and people were like, 184 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: what are you doing. You're hosting the biggest show on 185 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: network TV. You got to be worth millions and millions 186 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: of dollars. I said, I'm worth so much that I 187 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: have three jobs right now. I said. 188 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 2: That was when I did Temptation Island. Originally I'm Fox 189 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 2: and everybody and I was, and I always tell a 190 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 2: story that was like it aired on a Wednesday night, 191 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: I think, and Thursday morning I was famous. Like people 192 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 2: were coming up to me. And what they didn't realize 193 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 2: is we did six episodes, and I think I made 194 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 2: seventy five hundred dollars an episode. 195 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: And that was the season I crushed you. My first 196 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: season of The Bachelor twelve five, that's what I was making. 197 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: And again we did the same thing. It was six 198 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: one hour episodes. And so I'm like, and you know, 199 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: when you have thirty million viewers, people think, oh my god, 200 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: because that many people are watching, you must be worth 201 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: hundreds of millions of dollars now. And I'm like, I'm 202 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: worth thousands of dollars still, and I have two other gigs. 203 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: And I got to go to Home and Garden Network 204 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: because that's what's actually paying my rent. And you know, 205 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: you don't get big until later when the show you 206 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: know you can renegotiate and get your gig. It's like 207 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: you're one in the NFL. You're making minimum. 208 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 2: By the way I've read about that concept of that 209 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 2: you renegotiate and get more money must be cool. 210 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: It's pretty good. So I guess the biggest question is 211 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: what's the worst lot in life for you? Being named 212 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: Mark Wahlberg or being mistaken from time to time for 213 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: Chris Harrison. 214 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've now put that into almost every Like if 215 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 2: I give a keynote or something, I mean I'm talking 216 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,199 Speaker 2: about you know, know your worth and know your truth, 217 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 2: I'm like, I look like Chris Harrison and everybody thinks 218 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 2: it's the other Mark Wahlberg. So I have an identity crisis. 219 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 2: As soon as I walk on State. I think the 220 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 2: older I get, the less like you I look. So 221 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 2: that helps. 222 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, but people the but it was, I mean it 223 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: was so funny. It was really uncanny. No early on 224 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: people would be like, you know, we get stopped by 225 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: the paparazzi or whoever, and they're like, so, like, do 226 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: you enjoy Antique Road Show? And I'm like, yeah, you know, 227 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: I watch it from time to time. They're like, well, 228 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: what about Temptation Island? I said, yeah, no, I've watched 229 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: that too. I don't host either of those. 230 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 2: Man. People ask me who's going to get a rose 231 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 2: next week? And I'm like, you know, I'm not sure, 232 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 2: but I think if I had my brothers, I think 233 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 2: the Mark Wahlberg Mark Wahlberg thing is is probably more 234 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 2: of a daily part of my life. And I talking 235 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 2: about that when people come up to you and say, 236 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 2: you know, Temptation Island. I was doing Antiques Road Show 237 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 2: and this was years ago, like before social media was 238 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 2: what it is. But I got off the plane and 239 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 2: I'm coming down to the luggage and there are these 240 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 2: two guys just so psyched to see me, and they 241 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,839 Speaker 2: recognize me. They so they know it's me and they 242 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 2: know it's Antique road show, right, So they're like, oh, 243 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 2: mister Walber and mister Walberg over here. And I'm like, hey, guys, 244 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 2: what's up? You know, could you you know, you know, 245 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 2: do you mind do this? And we love you on 246 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 2: the show, and like clearly know that's me having a conversation, right, 247 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 2: And then they say do you mind signing a picture? 248 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 2: I'm like, not a problem, and they ad me a 249 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 2: picture of Mark Walberg. Act Oh my god, I'm like, 250 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 2: do you know, yeah, are we not in the same 251 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 2: room right now? 252 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: They're like, man, you've really let your abs go. Like 253 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: this guy used to do the Calvin Klein commercials man. 254 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: But so how many times have you have you gone 255 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: into a restaurant and you just see the hostess just oh. 256 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 2: Glaze over. Well, my fear of that is so great 257 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 2: that any family member, immediate and extended knows that if 258 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 2: they make any reservation, they make it very clear which 259 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 2: Mark Welber they're getting. I said, please don't make me 260 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,719 Speaker 2: walk in and have they go, oh, because we have. 261 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: A different table. 262 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 2: Like charity events that I've been invited to, and I 263 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 2: show up to the event, They're like yeah, oh, okay, 264 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 2: and then it's like awkward. 265 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 1: One of my producers brought this up, and I don't 266 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: even know if this is true, but it's not the 267 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: worst idea in the world. When I left The Bachelor 268 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: bachs Arette, someone said, the thought was call you call 269 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 1: Mark Wahlberg because he looks the most like Chris Harrison. 270 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: It'll be the least jarring. Was that a thing? Did 271 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: someone did? Was that a rumor? Or did anyone reach 272 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: out to you? 273 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 2: You know, if you go into the Reddit world and 274 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 2: all that stuff, you know, first of all, there's a 275 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 2: very blurry line between you and me and any other 276 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 2: host on TV from a viewers. I realize now how 277 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 2: how much in soft focused the viewers often view yes, 278 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 2: So I think that made perfect sense to some people. 279 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 2: I got a lot of you know, who's going to 280 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 2: take Chris's place, you'd be great, blah blah blah blah 281 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 2: bl and my answer was, you know, I got my gig, 282 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 2: he's got his gig, and all is going to be fine. 283 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 2: So yeah, I got some of that, you know, some 284 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 2: of that you know traffic, but it wasn't significant enough 285 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 2: that it was really made it on the meter. 286 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: Are you still doing prices right live? 287 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,599 Speaker 2: I'm not doing prices right live. Todd Newton's out on 288 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 2: the road. 289 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: That's like his gig, Todd Newton. Tod Newton's still doing that. 290 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Yeah, he's still doing it. As a 291 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 2: matter of fact, he's married to who was our prize 292 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 2: model for all those years, and so they got married. 293 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 2: So it's really kind of a love story. It's kind 294 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 2: of cool. 295 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: That is amazing talk about Yeah, things that happened on 296 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: the road. 297 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 2: And when I did Prices right Live, I was always 298 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 2: filling in for Todd, so I'd go for like ten days, 299 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 2: two weeks. Yeah, and I get my fixed and get out. 300 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 2: Now I'm going to lead next Tuesday and do Wheel 301 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 2: of Fortune live. 302 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: Awesome. 303 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 2: It's kind of stage version of Wheel of Fortune. And 304 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 2: for me it's like summer camp. You know, I go 305 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 2: for maybe ten days. This time, I'm going a little 306 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 2: longer than that. But it's bussing truck, so I'm sleeping 307 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 2: on the bus. I always say it's good rock and 308 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 2: roll fantasy. But the groupies are, you know, a little older. 309 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like Hasselhoff now you know he's not getting 310 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: the But so just to fill people in on what 311 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: this is, so many many years ago, these casinos started 312 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: Prices right live and it was like a ninety minute show. 313 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: We did it in Vegas, we did it at all 314 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: the casinos around And the funny thing is, and I'm 315 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: sure you were in on this, and I know Todd 316 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: Newton was as well. Was this was kind of as 317 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: Bob Barker was leading Prices right. 318 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 2: I was on stage that night he retired. 319 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: So people, we all of us were kind of in 320 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: the mix. They had talked to us all. I'm sure 321 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: they talked to you about that job. 322 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a whole story behind that. But yeah, they 323 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 2: kind of did. 324 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know they then they they talked to 325 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: me about it as well, and I know they talked 326 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: to Todd Newton, and Todd was really excited about the possibility. 327 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: And so here's what this is the beauty of Hollywood. 328 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: It's not that they lied to us, because I think 329 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: we were all good legit hosts and we all had 330 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: a shot. But they also needed something. They needed really 331 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: good hosts to go out and host these prices right 332 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: live shows. So what you would do is you would 333 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: go to a casino like Todd's doing or Mark's doing. 334 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: Now you host this ninety minute show. It was I 335 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: did it at Bally's in Las Vegas. You would go 336 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: in and do ninety minutes. These casino people will come 337 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: in and they barely pay attention. Then they go back 338 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: on the casino floor and we would stay there for 339 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: weeks at a time. And I did it. And what's 340 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: the other the biggest the smallest, biggest city in the 341 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: world in the Valveice And yeah, and so I did 342 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: it there, and I did it in this Chumash casino 343 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: somewhere in San Diego. 344 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 2: That's changed since back then I mean that was the 345 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 2: birth of it. It's now a buzz and truck playing theater, 346 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 2: so it's a lot more fun. 347 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: Oh, that's got to be a blast then, because if 348 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: people want to be there. 349 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 2: Plongs of people around the block. It's like a rock concert. 350 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 2: And so it's much better than when it was at 351 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 2: Bally's and we were kind of grinding it out at 352 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 2: four in the afternoon. I just really went to do 353 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 2: it so I could play poker. That was the only 354 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 2: reason I did it back in those days. Now I 355 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 2: go because it's it's like improv, it's like an event, 356 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 2: and it's fun. But you know what's interesting is back 357 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 2: in the day when they were trying to get us 358 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 2: all host prices right off the bat, they would say 359 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 2: it's kind of an audition for when Bob retires exactly. 360 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 2: And I were saying to Todd, that's not it at all, right, 361 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 2: It's never going down like that. If you are investing 362 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 2: in the possibility of being the host of the price 363 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 2: is right by doing this You're so. 364 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: So that's that's not how this works. 365 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 2: Do it for your own reasons, but that is not 366 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 2: how this is going down. 367 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: Because I wanted I forgot the name of the executive producer, 368 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: Andy Felcher. Yes, so Andy came. I hosted for two 369 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: weeks and he came for the last two days, and 370 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: then you know, we did the whole dinner thing. And 371 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: then he actually had me to the Prices Right show 372 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: where I met Bob Barker and was talking about this 373 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: is so weird, Like you said, this is how this works. 374 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: Where I show up and I'm talking to like Bob 375 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 1: had to be thinking, who is this punk ass kid 376 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: who wants my job? Who's at my job right now? 377 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: It was so weird the way it was forced. And 378 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: of course as soon as Bob retired and the talks 379 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 1: really started, it was okay, let's find a big name. 380 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: You know. 381 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,719 Speaker 2: It was every big name and the entire well, actually 382 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 2: that's not entirely true either. Do you know what the 383 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 2: real story there? No, And I don't want to like 384 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 2: spill too much tea, but it is the most dramatic 385 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 2: podcast everly. This will be good for three game show nerds, 386 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 2: so I'll give them this, and two of them are 387 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 2: right here. It was originally going to be Dave Price, 388 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 2: the weatherman from CBS This Morning. Really, that was a 389 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 2: done deal and so the behind the scenes goes that 390 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 2: the show was going on in Vegas, the live show. 391 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 2: I was on stage, he retired. I get this message 392 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 2: from Fremantle, send me your tape. You know this is 393 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 2: in play whatever, and then it got and then it 394 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 2: realized that Les Moonvest had picked Dave Price to be 395 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 2: the guy. No audition, that's what's up. Wow. They get 396 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 2: a call like a week later saying our host is 397 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 2: sick in Vegas. Can you get here? So they fly 398 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 2: me out like Monday night to do the show only 399 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 2: Tuesday and Wednesday, and I do it. But the truth 400 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 2: was nobody was sick. Dave Price had been flown in 401 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 2: to do the show but was having trouble doing the 402 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 2: live show as a rehearsal, so they can tell me. 403 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 2: But I'm doing the show and he's in the booth 404 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 2: watching me to get notes. And then what happened was 405 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 2: the way I heard is that he ends up doing 406 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 2: a couple shows on set with the actual tests screen 407 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 2: tests at CBS, and when that didn't go well, that's 408 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 2: when Less acquiesced to the other powers that be. I 409 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 2: always say, it's like the mob. It was like five 410 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 2: heads a five fan making this decision and that's when 411 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 2: the floodgates open, and everybody was Anybody got an audition 412 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 2: except for us, exactly until the very very end when 413 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 2: I got an audition, and then I get this call saying, 414 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 2: you got the gig. It's you got it. You killed it. 415 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 2: Everybody agrees, that's. 416 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: The, by the way, the worst call you can get 417 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: in this business. I know people think that's a good call, 418 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: it's horrible. As soon as someone says you're a shoe in, 419 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: you're never getting the job. 420 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 2: All the people have decided you're gonna test next week, 421 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 2: and you got the gig as yours to lose. I'm like, awesome. 422 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 2: But then what they didn't realize is that less Moon 423 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 2: Best was in the office with Drew Carrey, the only 424 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 2: guy who did an audition for the new deal, just 425 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 2: making the deal. 426 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: That is exactly you know this. It is such a 427 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 1: bizarre business we're in. And I was in the mix 428 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: of that too, and The Bachelor had just started, so 429 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, maybe I almost have enough leverage to 430 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: actually be in the mix, but clearly did not. And 431 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 1: like you said, you hear rumors of Oh Wahlberg's going 432 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: in or Todd Newton thinks he's in and everybody's hearing 433 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 1: something from their agent, and like you said, it all 434 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 1: comes down to Les Moonvez wakes up and decides this, 435 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: and that's how it goes. And all of a sudden, 436 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: Drew Carey comes out. We're like, wait, what Drew Carrey. 437 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: That was the last name mentioned. And I went through 438 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: something very similar for Howie Mandel's gig on. 439 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 2: Deal or no deal. 440 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: It was when it went syndication, So how he was 441 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: doing it killing it, and the syndication deal was going 442 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 1: he didn't want to do the syndication or maybe they 443 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: were just in negotiations or whatever. So I got used 444 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: and I got brought in to audition publicly. They had 445 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: all the suitcase girls. Maybe Megan Markle was there. I 446 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 1: don't even know, but they did it very publicly on stage. 447 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: I did the audition and all that, the producers are 448 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 1: there and I'm like, this is weird. And the whole 449 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: thing was they wanted to make a very public bring 450 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: Chris Harrison in from The Bachelor so he can audition 451 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: only so the message would get back to how we. 452 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: Then how we literally later that day or that week, 453 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: signed the deal. I'm doing this syndication. No one's taken 454 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: my gig. 455 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 2: You know, I don't know if people outside of our business. 456 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 2: I guess this occurs in other businesses, but I don't 457 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 2: know people outside our business realize how nasty it can be. 458 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 2: I mean, I've had that's a similar story where I 459 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 2: had a producer called me at home on a Sunday going, 460 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 2: we're doing this pilot and we didn't make a deal 461 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 2: for our host and we want you would you do it? 462 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 2: And I say sure, it said great, we'll call your agent, 463 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 2: only to learn that that was just to get the 464 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 2: other guy to sign. 465 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's just let guy the. 466 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 2: Pie, you know, And so the bait and switch. 467 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: And it happens a lot. I mean, and you had 468 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if you remember that guy 469 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 1: Brian Blakely, who was a friend of ours who was 470 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: around auditioning at the time. He did this dating show 471 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 1: very early on. It was a daytime show on a 472 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 1: cruise ship, and we all started getting calls. He shot it, 473 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,719 Speaker 1: they had already produced it. He was in the edit 474 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: bay and we all started getting calls agents and hosts 475 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: to come audition for his job. And so I called him. 476 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: I said, dude, I'm just telling you, I don't know 477 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: what's going on with that job you think you have 478 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: and when. So when I got The Bachelor and we 479 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 1: shot our six episodes, I didn't tell I went home 480 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: for Christmas. I didn't tell anybody I got the gig, 481 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 1: I had this great network job and all this. I 482 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 1: didn't say a word because I assumed until I see 483 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: myself on TV on Monday night, I assume that I 484 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 1: don't have this job. It can go away. 485 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 2: And you know, I'll tell you something. Man, the business 486 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 2: and I've been married thirty six years. So sadly my 487 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 2: wife hitched her her wagon to this roller coaster. Fortunate 488 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 2: for me, but rugher for her. But she's from show business, 489 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 2: so she gets it and that I wouldn't have survived. 490 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 2: But if you're gonna like turn the corner here, is 491 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 2: that this because of the things you're talking about, the 492 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 2: toxic way that our business goes down, has forced me 493 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 2: to find value in things that actually matter instead of 494 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 2: you know, do I have a job today or not 495 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 2: because that's temporary. 496 00:22:58,400 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: That it's funny you say that. You know, people have 497 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: asked me about when The Bachelor went crazy for twenty 498 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: years and it's like, how do you keep perspective? And 499 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 1: you've always seem so grounded, I said, because it can 500 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: all go away tomorrow. And I know that, and I've 501 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 1: I dug in the trenches and fought all the toxic battles. 502 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: You realize how false that narrative is and how fake 503 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 1: that world is. So you you love your your wife, 504 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: you love your kids. You that is what matters. And 505 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: you've been married to Robbie for forty five forty five 506 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: years thirty six. 507 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 2: But a show business that's like one hundred, It totally is. 508 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 3: It's Jojo Siua, host of the new podcast Jojo Seawa. Now, 509 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 3: It's time to get real, up close and personal. I'm 510 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 3: gonna be talking to you like I'm writing in a journal. 511 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 3: You're gonna get all of the tea and all of 512 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 3: the scoop. I'm also gonna be talking to my friends, 513 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 3: to people I admire, to people that are drending right now. 514 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 3: So you're gonna get like Jojo Seawa now and like 515 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 3: now what's going on in the world. It's gonna be great, 516 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 3: and I really hope you like it. You can listen 517 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 3: to Jojesesima Now on the iHeartRadio app Apple podcasts or 518 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 3: wherever you listen to podcasts. 519 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: You have two kids, two d boy and a girl. 520 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 2: Son's a Navy pilot. Daughter's a retired professional ballerina. 521 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, your daughter was a premium ballerina. And it's scary 522 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: to me she's already retired. 523 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 2: Well she did. You know, First of all, it's like 524 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 2: being a football player, so you don't get that many years. 525 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 2: But she danced at Kansas City Ballet for many years, 526 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 2: and then during the pandemic, she left Kansas City, moved 527 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 2: to Boston for personal reasons, and then was kind of 528 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 2: being courted by Boston Ballet and then pandemic hit and 529 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 2: then she's like, why am I, you know, busting my 530 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 2: ass every day to do something I love, but get 531 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 2: no money and I'm not sure I'm happy. So now 532 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 2: she's teaching and she's a social media director and she's 533 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 2: making a lot more money. She's a lot happier. And 534 00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 2: then my son is getting out of the navy. But 535 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 2: he flu as a Navy pilot berg you know, ten 536 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 2: years or so, and so he's moving to his next chapter. 537 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 1: That is your son, Morgan, Yeah, Morgan. So yeah, he was. 538 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 2: A frost star. I think if I'm not mistaken. 539 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 1: Who's that you have a big I do. Yeah, my 540 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: son plays them. Both. My kids are at TCU. I 541 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: got a senior he's about to graduate, so they're probably 542 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: probably a little younger Josh my son Josh twenty two 543 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: daughters nineteen. You know, they're both going through college. And 544 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 1: I'm kind of still in it. Yeah, but I'm still 545 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: kind of it's that empty nest, but not quite fully 546 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 1: empty nest yet. 547 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 2: You know, I'm not only empty nest, but I've gone 548 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 2: to the level where like it shifted. So like when 549 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 2: we're all hanging out together and I drive home, they're 550 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 2: texting me to make sure I got homesick that chapter. 551 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 1: Now, So what's your son? So Morgan was a Navy pilot, 552 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: which is awesome, by the way, And what's he's going 553 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: to take that into the private sector soon? 554 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 2: No, No, he's and leave the navy. He's going to 555 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 2: like he says, I'll probably still fly, but I'm a 556 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 2: fly for fun, not for money. Yeah, I don't think 557 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 2: he wants to do the commercial thing. He's he and 558 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 2: his wife, he got married a year ago. They've done 559 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 2: pretty well. They've got some real estate, they've got some plans, 560 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 2: they got stuff they want. Wild. 561 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 1: Isn't that wild? Like your boys? Like, it's how has 562 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: that affected your life? Kids are grown, they're clearly successful. 563 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: They don't need you anymore per se, How did that 564 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 1: affect you and Robbie in your life? And like kind 565 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 1: of having to rEFInd yourselves and your relationship. 566 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 2: It's it's interesting to hear you say that. I think 567 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 2: it's been amazing. I think when my son, my oldest, 568 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 2: went to college his first year, I I didn't know 569 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 2: what to do with myself if I'm not going to 570 00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:00,239 Speaker 2: sit on the bench and watch him play baseball and 571 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 2: then head over the ballet class to watch my daughter. 572 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 2: Like what's my identity? Right? I have none? Even though 573 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 2: I'm on TV and I have all that, that doesn't matter. Yeah, 574 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 2: I'm really you know, if he hit a home run, 575 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 2: then I hit a home run, right. 576 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: Well, that's one of the things I always appreciated about 577 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: you and why we always connected as like this guy 578 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: defines himself by being a good father, a good husband, 579 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: a loving guy, a good friend, and so I get that. 580 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 1: It's like I lived and died horribly. 581 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 2: Horribly you know, emotionally sick to be defined by your 582 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 2: son's home run. Yes, so then and my daughter left 583 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 2: after high school, she went straight to she had a 584 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 2: scholarship the Watchington School Ballet. She left. So we were 585 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 2: really empty nesters at this point in our lives. My 586 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 2: wife's in my life. It's more wonderful than it isn't. Yeah, 587 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 2: our relationship with the kids has shifted into such a 588 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 2: different place. They're both really living that chapter of their lives, 589 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 2: that first year years of adulthood. And we I always say, 590 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 2: you know, parenting is like like you started your own 591 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 2: business in your garage and you were making the soup, 592 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 2: selling it, marketing and everything, and then later you became 593 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 2: sort of a management position, and then later you were 594 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 2: like out of the board. Now I'm my board emeritis. 595 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't have a boat. There's a picture 596 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,199 Speaker 2: me on the wall, but I'm really not part of 597 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:27,360 Speaker 2: the corporation anymore. 598 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: Every now and that, I get to drive by the 599 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: building and you go in and people are like, oh, 600 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: there's an appreciate about it. 601 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a really beautiful time. I'm really you know, 602 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 2: when I talk to people about parenting, you know the 603 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 2: fact that I keep in touch my kids, check in 604 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 2: probably every day with us, and that I think is 605 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 2: the greatest measurement of parenting is not how are they doing, 606 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 2: but how much are they communicating? And so, yeah, we're 607 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 2: having a good time. You know, we've gotten through some stuff. 608 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 2: My son has had some stuff, my daughter's I've had stuff. 609 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 2: We all had stuff. Like like message happens on the 610 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 2: other end of it. It's you know what I keep 611 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 2: telling people young parents is you know, when you're a 612 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,719 Speaker 2: young parent, you're like giving this advice and teaching all 613 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 2: the lessons you think matter. You don't really know them, 614 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 2: but you're saying them, yes, right, but they think you 615 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 2: know them. My point, they start living the lessons you 616 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 2: taught them, and then you're like, oh, that's like legit. Yeah, 617 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 2: and they didn't know you were kind of bullshitting when 618 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 2: you were a kid. 619 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: I'm making this stuff up, man. 620 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. So I think the apprentice has become the master, 621 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 2: and I think I'm the student now and there they're 622 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 2: advising me. 623 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: But obviously there's a lot of pride in that. And 624 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: you see your kids growing and I'm sure it's been 625 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: interesting too because I'm going through this now. You're kind 626 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: of four steps probably a little further in watching your 627 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: relationship evolve because it's got to evolve into something else. 628 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: Like you said, you know, I'm not driving them to 629 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: practice anymore. I'm not imparting all that much wisdom anymore. 630 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: I do advise them a little bit because they are 631 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: taking that next step into being adults. But still it's 632 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: it's evolving and I can feel it. And I'm sure 633 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: you are on the other side where they're just really 634 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: good friends now and you are you enjoy your time 635 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: with them as humans most. 636 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 2: Of the time. But I also make the joke when 637 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 2: they come home, I'm like, you know, your kids coming 638 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 2: home is like going to Vegas a week. Sounds like 639 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 2: a good idea, but after like three days, you're broken, 640 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 2: hung over. It's so But the truth is, when you 641 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 2: talk about it, like your advisory role as a parent, 642 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 2: one of the things I talk about and one of 643 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 2: the things I try to do is realize now that 644 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 2: my advisory role is only when asked, because they're figuring 645 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 2: it out and they're doing better than I did at 646 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 2: their age. So that was my wife in the background saying, 647 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 2: not me, she's the queen of unsolicited advice. 648 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: Well, that's their job too, And the bully pulpit. 649 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 2: She'll definitely hammer you until you do what she says. 650 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: Before I let you go. If you mentioned something really 651 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: interesting at the beginning any of this we got in 652 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: at kind of the golden age of hosting. I mean, 653 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: I feel I always tell people I got on the 654 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: last train out of Network TV. It was phenomenal. So 655 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: did you a Temptation Island? And it was I've watched it. 656 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: Not only kind of diminish as far as the hosting 657 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: role that you know, Seacrest and Bergeron and you and 658 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: me and Cogan and all that. We all filled these 659 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: amazing roles in our own little niche at each network, 660 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 1: but who they bring in to host things now? And 661 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: that role has changed so much. What would you advise 662 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: somebody who says I want to do this. 663 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 2: I would there's a joke about my mind, as I 664 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 2: would tell them to run away and become an accountant 665 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 2: and you'll be thrilled. But here's my take on this, Chris, 666 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 2: because I appear as my age who are either retiring 667 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 2: or still trying to grind it out, who have a 668 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 2: great resentment for the fact that our industry isn't an 669 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 2: industry really anymore. But I don't feel that way at all. 670 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 2: I think that Actually my advice to others is take 671 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 2: a cue from your own generation. I think the podcast 672 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 2: and the YouTube track is in many ways far better. 673 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 2: And this is what I find interesting about is that, like, 674 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 2: if you're programming your own stuff, nobody's telling you what 675 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 2: to say and what not to say, when to put 676 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 2: it out, how long it needs to go. You're not 677 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 2: a slave to your lead in or lead out or 678 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 2: a preemption or promo or cancellation or any of that. 679 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 2: And the other thing that I find really remarkable is 680 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 2: how fame has changed. And it used to be yours, 681 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 2: this persona on TV that people liked, but the mystery 682 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 2: was who are you in real life? And sometimes there 683 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 2: are people magazines spread will say behind, you know, who's 684 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 2: Tony Danzel? Really? You know whatever? Right? But now what 685 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 2: has happened is what people vibrate towards. What makes you 686 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 2: success well, famous and influencer is how much of you 687 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 2: you share? Right? 688 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: It's true. 689 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I always am talking to my friends, who are 690 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 2: you know, frustrated about the business, and I'm like you, guys, 691 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 2: the cheese moved and it's freeing and liberating. So I'm 692 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 2: thrilled with being TV. But literally, I say to my family, 693 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, I don't go look for TV 694 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 2: jobs anymore. You know, if people want me on TV, 695 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 2: they're gonna call me, and I'm gonna go do a 696 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 2: TV show and I'm down to do it. Temptation Island 697 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 2: has been awesome. I don't know what's next for me 698 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 2: in that area, and I'll do it. But in the meantime, 699 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 2: the conversation and the and the the closeness of social 700 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 2: media actually in YouTube and podcasting is far more exciting 701 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 2: than me. I don't know lucrative for me, but it 702 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 2: certainly is from a from a content standpoint, really exciting. 703 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 2: So when people come to me and say I'm thinking 704 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 2: about doing this, I'm like, go do it. 705 00:33:58,120 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can do anything. It's true. 706 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 2: You do something you had to hire somebody with a camera, 707 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 2: go to an edit bay later for hundreds of dollars 708 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,760 Speaker 2: to cut it together, and then make tapes or CDs 709 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 2: to send to people, and there was nowhere to see it. 710 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, evolve, evolve and move on. And speaking of evolving, 711 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 1: you're doing a podcast. 712 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got to figure out a name for it, 713 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,800 Speaker 2: but I've laid down a couple episodes. I'm gonna probably 714 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 2: launch it the first of the year, somewhere around there. 715 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 2: I'm not really sure, but I'm in it now and 716 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 2: sort of furthering the conversations that we have on Temptation 717 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 2: Island but also life. You know, it's hard to say, 718 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 2: you know, what's the podcast about? You know, your podcast 719 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 2: is about you and the people around you and the 720 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 2: world things that interest you. Mine is pretty much that, 721 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:45,919 Speaker 2: although I probably will dwell into delve into a little 722 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 2: bit of people coming to me with relationship stuff because 723 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 2: for whatever reason they come to me and ask me 724 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 2: and and I tell them I don't know, but I'll 725 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:54,399 Speaker 2: tell you what I think. 726 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: Half the people come to you, the other half come 727 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 1: to me. There you go, and they should they should 728 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:00,399 Speaker 1: all do better. 729 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 2: The first thing I tell him probably higher professional, Yeah, exactly. 730 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: Just because I play one on TV doesn't mean I 731 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: have all the answers for you, dude. I appreciate the time, man, 732 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 1: I really appreciate you coming on. And I like the 733 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 1: name of the podcast. That is I'm Mark Wahlberg. No, 734 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 1: not that guy, and no I did not host The Bachelor. 735 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 2: I joked that I would call it a Mark Wahlberg podcast, 736 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 2: because there's the and then there's a but then you 737 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 2: got to quit saying things that demean you. Come on, 738 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 2: stand in your past. 739 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: One of the things I loved about having a podcast 740 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 1: is when my producers like, who should we have on? 741 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 1: I said, you know who I want to talk to? 742 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 1: Just by the way, whether someone finds this fascinating or not, 743 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,760 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, like this is the conversation I wanted 744 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 1: to have. This is someone that our lives have criss 745 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 1: crossed and been intertwined for twenty years, and we have 746 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: such People. 747 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 2: Don't realize we're rarely we're never in the same room. 748 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 2: It's like we're so aware of what going on because 749 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 2: I have to be briefed on what you're doing so 750 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 2: that I can answer the questions when asked. 751 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 1: And you know, he was in it back in the day. 752 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a similar thing, but I 753 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 1: was hyper aware of what Todd Newton was hosting. You know, 754 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: what you were hosting, What what jobs are out there? 755 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: What's going on? You know, because it was such a 756 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 1: it is such a cutthroat business and we were all 757 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: just grinding trying to get jobs, and but it was funny. 758 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: There was there was a lot of civility into it. 759 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 1: Like you said, you'd fill in for Todd. I filled 760 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 1: in for Todd one time. He was about to have 761 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 1: a baby and so he couldn't do this thing in Chicago. 762 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 1: So I went to help him out and so he 763 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 1: me gigs. 764 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 2: Todd's throwing me stuff. Albeit the ones who thrown me 765 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,760 Speaker 2: have been so low paying and a little bit janky. 766 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: There was a reason he's throwing them exactly. 767 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 2: He didn't give me the good. 768 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,800 Speaker 1: But this is the reason I love doing this podcast. 769 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 1: It's it's the conversation I wanted to have. And UH 770 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 1: wish you and Robbie the best to the kids and 771 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 1: everything going on in your life. My friend. It's it's 772 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 1: good to catch up. 773 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 2: And my love to Lauren and UH and all the 774 00:36:58,239 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 2: best of you, and thanks for having me on. And 775 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:02,879 Speaker 2: you know, when I have a podcast with a name, 776 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 2: I'll come back on it and tell your people to 777 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 2: come listen. So HI will and then you know, if 778 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,439 Speaker 2: they're watching you or me, and they can figure it out. 779 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,240 Speaker 1: Later exactly, they'll think it's the same thing. I should 780 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 1: just put you on my podcast feed and we'll just 781 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 1: keep just running no one would ever know that sounds 782 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 1: good to me, all right, Mark, take care, Bud, all right, 783 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,839 Speaker 1: see ya, thanks for listening. Follow us on Instagram at 784 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,439 Speaker 1: the most dramatic pod ever, and make sure to write 785 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: us a review and leave us five stars. I'll talk 786 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:26,839 Speaker 1: to you next time.