WEBVTT - Bart Scott & Leger Douzable React to the Hiring of Aaron Glenn (1/22) 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:02.920 Welcome into the Official Jets Podcast. 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:06.240 I eat, breathe, and sleep, you know, the New York Jets, 0:00:06.280 --> 0:00:09.120 my team and my teammates, like that's that's my life. 0:00:09.280 --> 0:00:11.240 He knows what it means to wear the green and white. 0:00:11.520 --> 0:00:13.880 That is a tightrope walk across Niagara Fall. 0:00:14.000 --> 0:00:14.680 That's hard to do. 0:00:15.440 --> 0:00:18.360 The Official Jets Podcast is presented by Kendra Scott, the 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:21.840 jewelry company that's shining bright and doing good. Shop Game 0:00:21.920 --> 0:00:24.880 Day Ready, jewelry styles and so much more at kendrascott 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:27.320 dot com. 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:31.040 Welcome into the Official Jets Podcast. We are presented by 0:00:31.160 --> 0:00:34.600 Kendra Scott. It is the dawn of a new day 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:38.560 as we bring in Lejay Dousable and Bart Scott. Aaron Glenn, 0:00:38.600 --> 0:00:43.440 the twenty second head coach in franchise history. 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:45.840 Your thoughts starting with you, Bart. 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:47.720 I mean welcome home. 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:50.360 First of all, to Aaron Glenn, I thought that this 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:53.680 was a good hire. You talk about what staff he 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:55.280 can put together, but you talk about a guy that 0:00:55.360 --> 0:00:58.160 got you know, blood and soil. God has been here, 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:01.440 played here, understands not only the fan base, he understands, 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:05.000 you know, the pain that they that they had to 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:06.759 deal with over the last couple of years, so it's 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:10.160 personal to him, much like the situation was in Detroit 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:12.960 with Dan Campbell, which gives him, I think an added 0:01:13.000 --> 0:01:15.840 advantage because as he speaks to the players in the team, 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:18.320 you know he can he can echo those sentiments about 0:01:18.319 --> 0:01:20.720 how hard that he wants to play for the fan 0:01:20.760 --> 0:01:23.080 base and win for the fan base because it matters 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:26.520 to him because he's been on both sides as a scout, 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:29.320 as a player. You know the magic that they had 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:32.520 with Bill Beller, Bill Parcells back in the day. He 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:35.800 was part of that that that glory time as well, 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:38.320 and it'd be exciting to see what has he learned 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:41.720 in his journeys. He's been surround himself around some great coaches, 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:45.800 some great coaching staff, whether Sean Payton rather than Dan Campbell, 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:49.720 and he's seen, you know, different perspectives in different ways 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:52.160 to to build a team. And I'm just excited to 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:54.880 hear you know more about who he plans on bringing 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:57.280 with him, as he probably competes with his former friend 0:01:57.720 --> 0:01:59.560 and Ben Johnson for staffing. 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:04.760 Lejay, you circled AG's name from the get go when 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:07.160 the Jets began their search for a head coach. 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:10.600 Why I think to echo what Bart said. I think 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:12.920 we needed somebody in the building that knows what it 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:15.080 means to wear the Green and White and not just 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:17.680 wear it, to like bleed it, to live it right. 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:20.040 And that's what Aaron Glenn has done for the Green 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:22.560 and White. If I'm not mistaken, maybe you and Bark 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:24.240 could help me out. When you walk in on the 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:26.640 front office side, on one desk drive and you go 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:29.160 up the stairs, isn't there a big picture of Aaron 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:29.760 Glynn there? 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:33.840 Ag is throughout this building. Man, He's one of the 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:35.640 best Jets who've ever played. 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:40.680 Whoever was so correct, So again, it kind of feeds 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:43.080 into the fact what Bart talked about. A guy that 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:46.080 has been a New York Jet right, who's bled green 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:48.640 and white, and I think that will resonate right with 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:50.400 the rest of the players. You saw what happened in 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:53.120 Detroit with Dan Campbell, a guy that played for the 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:56.720 Detroit Lions, a guy that was a former player. Guys 0:02:56.919 --> 0:02:59.520 can relate to a guy like that because he knows 0:02:59.760 --> 0:03:01.880 what it takes to get to the pinnacle, to be 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:04.360 a top player in the NFL. And that's what Aaron 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:08.040 Glynn does. Before Derel revis it was Aaron Glynn that 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:10.920 was the corner that everybody looked up to for the 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:13.320 New York Jets, right. So I think this was a 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:16.320 spot that he touted because it is a homecoming for him, 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:19.360 and I think that'll go a long way into the 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:22.600 locker room buying, into buying into what his vision is 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:25.600 for this team. I think he's also a culture changer. 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:29.079 I go back to the Hard Knocks episode when Dan 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:31.760 Campbell had Aaron Glynn speak in front of everybody. It 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:33.400 wasn't just the players, it was the coaches, in the 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:35.920 front office people as well. And I've never seen a 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:38.800 room more engage, which lets you know he can command 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:41.280 the room, which lets you know he's a leader of men. 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:44.480 I've taught to numerous people that have played and worked 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:47.560 under Aaron Glynn and worked with him, and everybody's had 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:50.880 a glow in admiration for who Aaron Glynn is as 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:53.080 a leader, right, And I think it's the most important thing. 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:55.520 And Bart brought up a really good point because, yes, 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:58.240 to just Haven an officially named a GM, but he 0:03:58.240 --> 0:04:00.520 has a background of scouting as well, so he's gonna 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:02.600 be able to help out on the personnel side in 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:06.280 regards to bringing in the right personnel into one's jets drive. 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:10.080 So again we'll see what established like to Bart's point, 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:12.560 because that's just as important as bringing the right head coach, 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:15.360 in bringing the right staff into to develop the players 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:19.080 that's on the roster. But home run hit. I love 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:21.320 it because he's not only an ex player, but he's 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:23.240 an ex Jet and he knows what it means to 0:04:23.240 --> 0:04:24.760 wear the green and white. 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:28.840 Bart, you play here, what do you think about that 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:32.400 narrative that here's a former first round pick, a guy 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:36.800 who's got twenty four interceptions forty one career interceptions as 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:40.640 a player, and then he comes back on the scouting side, 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:43.320 works in the personnel department on the pro and the 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:48.440 college side in twelve and thirteen, and now he returns 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:53.239 his first gig as a head coach, comes back here. 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:56.480 Everything coming full circle for Aaron Lutt. 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:58.680 Well, like I said, sometimes, you know, I kind of 0:04:58.680 --> 0:05:02.480 go back to this thing that Bernard Hopkins used to 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:06.880 tell me, what's made will last longer than what's born. Right, 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:09.400 and you talk about you know where did he get 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:12.480 you know, how do he arise to this point? Well, 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:14.719 it was with hard work, and you know, I remember 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:17.600 listening to him. On my radio show, we played a 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:20.880 clip of him on the Pivot talking about how he 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:22.720 wanted to start from the bottom. He didn't want to 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:24.760 have to skip any steps because he wanted to know 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:27.040 when he got the opportunity that he'd be prepared for. 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:30.000 And being on every aspect of it means that he 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:31.960 can speak to it, and he understands the process, and 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:34.320 he can understand where the process can maybe be better 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:37.479 if it's not there because he has firsthand experience and 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:41.080 knowledge about those experiences. So that's what I like about 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:43.159 the fact that, you know, he's a guy that wasn't 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:46.800 an overnight sensation, uh success story as far as in 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:48.919 the coaching realms. He kind of paid his dues and 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:51.960 he's earned every every rite that he's gotten. And this 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:54.200 was the right time, you know, talk about you know, 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:56.640 being on the stage. Everybody knew that the Lions were 0:05:56.680 --> 0:05:59.160 going to have a spotlight on him coming off of 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:00.719 the season that they had to year before, and he 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:03.200 didn't underwhelm. You know, you talked about he did the 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:04.719 best of what he had and even if you go 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:07.360 to the playoff game, we had moments Brown on the 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:10.080 show as well, and he just spoke to the injuries 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:12.680 and the importance of you know what he was dealing with, 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:15.640 because I wanted people to hear from moments, who's a 0:06:15.720 --> 0:06:19.720 lion who caused their games to talk about, you know, 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:21.960 the adversity that he had to deal with losing I 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:24.440 forget the corner's name the first play of the game, 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:28.280 and then losing Yeah Robinson, and then losing the other 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:31.880 player to a hamstring after he already had eighteen injuries. 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:35.400 You know, they weren't all defensively, but he kept continue 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:37.599 to find ways, and that's what being a coach in 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:39.920 football is all about, Like, don't tell me who I 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:41.839 have and what I have, you know, you know, don't 0:06:41.839 --> 0:06:43.960 tell me what I don't have, tell me what I 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:46.960 do have, and I'll find a way to coach around it. 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:49.799 And he did an excellent job in coaching around it. 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:53.479 It wasn't his day, unfortunately, but he showed that you know, adversity, 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:55.120 when adversity hits, he doesn't blink. 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:56.920 He still had guy's prepared. 0:06:56.960 --> 0:06:59.279 He still was able to go, You'll beat the fourteen 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:02.920 in two Minnesota vikings, and he was trying his best 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:04.760 to try and find a way to patch that defense 0:07:04.839 --> 0:07:07.200 up together. That's football, and especially if they're going to 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:09.320 go to an eighteen game season. I need somebody that 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:12.280 can coach whoever they have and be able to put 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:12.720 it together. 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:16.400 How much will that most recent experience, dudes help him. 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:20.280 He was a defensive coordinator under Dan Campbell there with 0:07:20.320 --> 0:07:21.080 the Lions. 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:25.160 For four years. That group started three thirteen and one. 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:29.600 They were one in six in that second year, and 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:33.720 they stuck to the process. They win two consecutive NFC 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:38.280 North Crowns, They win four playoff games, they advanced the 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:42.120 n C Championship Game found the twenty twenty three twenty 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:45.040 four season, and Bart just talked about how they were 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:49.320 decimated with injuries and still with that being said, they 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:53.920 won fifteen games, fifteen games in Detroit this season. 0:07:55.040 --> 0:07:58.640 I think it speaks value how he was able to 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:01.280 get players to still buy and even dealing with that 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:04.880 type of adversity, right, because when you go three thirteen 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:07.960 and one, a lot of guys would pack it up, right, 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:10.080 and then the next season you start one in five, 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:12.960 one and six, and Bart, you know this because you 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:15.360 played a long time, like it could be a snowball effect, 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:18.679 like here we go again, right, But they kept everybody together, 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:21.640 and you talked about a ea like they were decimated 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:23.720 on that side of the ball. And this was the 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:27.440 first year on that team where ag actually got the 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:30.800 personnel that kind of fit his mole, right, because let's 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:33.319 not forget right. They brought in a Meet Robinson. He 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:36.040 was with the Raiders last year, right. Carlton Davis was 0:08:36.080 --> 0:08:37.600 a guy that was with the Bucks and they traded 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:40.079 for him. And when he actually had all his guys, 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:42.920 they were a top five defense, Bartney A like people 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:45.400 tend to forget that, And even when Aiden Hudgerson went 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:47.240 down for like the next three or four weeks, they 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:49.080 were still a top five defense and one of the 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:52.280 most opportunistic defenses in all of football. I go back 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:55.440 to that San Francisco game where they were decimated with injuries, 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:58.280 and yet Kirby Joseph still gets two interceptions and sways 0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:00.360 the game in their favor. Yes, they get a ton 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:02.400 of yards, but you know this, bart if you can 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:04.840 turn the other team over with the type of offense 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:06.960 that the Lions have, you got a good chance to 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:09.760 win the game. And you talked about how Meet Robinson 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:12.439 stood toe to toe with Justin Jefferson. You don't think 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:16.240 that confidence came from a guy like ag who was undersized, 0:09:16.440 --> 0:09:19.040 just like a Meek Robinson who probably gave him some 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:21.840 confidence going into this game and saying, hey, they doubted 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:23.440 me too. They didn't think I could do it at 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:25.880 a high level because I was undersized. And a Meet 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:27.800 Robinson kind of reminds me of Aaron. 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:31.120 Glynn because the tenacity and the grit that he plays 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:33.280 with reminds me of what Aaron Glenn had to go 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:34.800 through when he was at corner because he was an 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:37.520 undersized corner. So I think it just speaks value to 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:40.319 the leadership that Aaron Glynn had. You guys talked about 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:43.120 at nauseum, the injuries they dealt with on the defensive 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:45.040 side of the ball and whether it was a guy 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:46.000 coming off the street. 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:48.600 He got them all to buy in right now. Again, 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:50.560 they gave up a ton of yards, but that's what 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:53.320 is expected and bart you know this as a defense, 0:09:53.679 --> 0:09:55.559 a lot of it comes down to communication. And people 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:58.040 were wondering why didn't Aaron Glenn kind of change up 0:09:58.040 --> 0:10:00.880 his philosophy. Well, the thing is, when you're getting your 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:04.440 four fifth, sixth corner and safety in the game and 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:07.079 they haven't had repped with the starters. Communication is key. 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:09.760 If you go zone coverage and somebody's like communicating, you 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:12.400 get a guy wide open. Well, in man coverage, there 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:14.600 is no excuse. You know who you've got. So he 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:17.080 was trying to make it as easy as possible and 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:19.280 adjust to the personnelity he had. So I think it 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:22.000 speaks values to that that those guys still laid it 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:23.880 on the line for him even though they dealt with 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:26.280 all that adversity and the injuries. 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:30.320 How about the program see Spinander Fellas. When you go 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:33.400 back to his playing days, I would make the argument 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:36.480 that Bill Parcells is the best program builder in the 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:37.280 history of the. 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:41.920 National Football League. He started that turn here with the Jets. 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:46.559 But then you move on and say, okay, he worked 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:49.079 in New Orleans. Him and Campbell were on the staff 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:53.200 under Sean Payton, and we know the success they had 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:57.080 in New Orleans, of course, and then finally he goes 0:10:57.120 --> 0:11:00.960 with Dan Campbell in Detroit and we are all able 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:02.360 to turn that culture around. 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:05.640 Bart Well, you know, it just goes to show that 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:08.840 you know he was taught, well, he's taught different philosophy. 0:11:08.880 --> 0:11:10.880 I'm sure he learned something from every coach that he 0:11:11.000 --> 0:11:13.160 was around. I mean, and to have a friend that 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:15.240 you coached with kind of get the first opportunity, but 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:17.640 for him to believe that, hey, I want my success 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:20.040 to be your success, and I trust you because I've 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:22.120 been in the foxhole with you, to brank him to Detroit, 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:24.840 even when early on when they weren't having a success 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:27.440 because they didn't have the personnel, it was calls to 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:30.200 fire Aaron Glynn. The fact that he weathered that storm 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:32.400 and on the other side of that was two NFC 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:35.760 championships within two years turning that program around. You know, 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:38.680 people talk about, you know fan bases that are star 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:41.440 for a winner. Well, listen, it's hard pressed for me 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:44.080 to find any fan base that was more hard pressed 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:47.120 for a winning product than the Detroit Lions. Being from 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:50.120 Detroit and seeing the firsthand, I've never seen anything such 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:52.959 things once or twice underneath Barry Sanders. After that, you 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:54.960 got to go to Alex Carrits and go back to 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:57.200 Webster to figure out when the last time the Lions 0:11:57.240 --> 0:12:00.800 had any type of success. You know, look to Aaron Glenn. 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:02.840 I'm excited to see what he's learned. He has to 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:05.480 make it his own, I'm sure he'll understand, he'll find 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:07.920 his footing. I hear that he wants to bring in 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:13.280 a defensive minded defensive coordinator that has head coaching experience. 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:15.000 You know, that could be one of many people. I'm 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:17.079 not going to speculate, you know, but that can be 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:18.920 one of many people that could be important for him 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:22.960 to understand the nuance of, you know, the administrative stuff 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:24.800 that you have to figure out as a defense as 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:27.200 a defensive minded coach that is now becoming a head 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:30.479 coach and not just coaching one side of the ball. 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:34.160 Can you talk about, dudes, his connection that he's had 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:37.959 with players, because I think people will say that Aaron 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:42.280 Glenn is a player's coach, but when you hear players speak, 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:48.880 they talk about him demanding accountability and discipline and knows 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:53.240 our trade marks of Aaron Glenn coordinated units or position 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:56.719 groups and now of the opportunity to oversee the whole thing. 0:12:57.880 --> 0:12:59.760 Yeah, you see it in many clips when he's one 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:02.640 one just talking to players about their process and getting 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:05.480 ready for work and how they go about their business. 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:08.680 Like he demands that you're locked into your job day 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:10.480 in and day out, And I think that's something that 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:12.880 is going to be needed in this just locker room 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:15.439 demand that you be at your best at all time 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:18.960 when your best is required. Right, Because again Aaron Glenn, 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:21.480 with the mindset that he has smaller corner, Right, I 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:24.720 had to be more detailed than the guy next to me. Right, 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:27.360 I had to be more feisty and aggressive and physical 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:30.160 the guy that I was going up against, because measurable wise, 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:32.920 I wasn't maybe at the stature of that guy. So 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:34.600 I had to either I was smarter them, I'll think 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:37.080 him or our physical like that is his mindset. So 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:39.520 I think that's something that's going to really resonate within 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:42.040 this locker room and something that needs to change for 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:44.800 the culture in the Jets locker room as well. That's 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:47.880 something that Aaron Glenn will will try to set a 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:49.240 president on day one. 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:51.920 What do you think are some of those first steps 0:13:51.920 --> 0:13:55.280 that dudes is talking about you mentioned and this is 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:59.800 huge ag assembling a staff there bart And I know 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:03.400 he's already hard at work taking care of that right now. 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:07.960 But in addition to getting that staff set, what does 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:10.400 he have to do, what are some of its first steps? 0:14:11.640 --> 0:14:13.800 His first steps is going to first be I mean 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:16.520 as a coach or as you know, continue to build 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:16.960 his staff. 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:19.240 Building his staff is what he had to work on first. 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:22.520 Then secondly it's about getting together with the general manager. 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:24.720 You know, I don't know if it's been a general 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:27.080 manager that has been higher yet, but figuring out what's 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:29.600 going to be the game plan. You know, we we 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:31.640 can expeculate who we think is going to be, but 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:34.280 until it's on paper, pin the paper, then we can't, 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:37.720 you know, go that route. But you know, the first 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:39.280 decision he's going to have to make as far as 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:41.320 personnel wise, you know, being a form of Scott is 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:43.120 going to be does he want to be with Aaron 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:45.880 Rodgers or does Aaron Rodgers stay here? Because you feel 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:47.480 like if Aaron Rodgers isn't going to be here, to 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:48.560 the mean's Debonte. 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:50.120 Adam's probably not going to be here. You know, you 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:50.600 heard him. 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:53.160 He's in Kay Adams show a little bit that hey, 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:55.240 maybe he'd like to play in Washington if if it 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:57.840 doesn't work out with the Jets, and you know, everybody's 0:14:57.920 --> 0:15:01.520 kind of you know, my agree reading to the fact 0:15:01.560 --> 0:15:04.080 that Jade dames A is a exceptional talent ahead of 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:06.720 schedule and you know that's that's reasonable there, But he 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:09.160 has to figure out the personnel then figure out, you know, 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:11.120 what they're gonna do with the draft pick. That's where 0:15:11.120 --> 0:15:14.320 the scouting, uh the park comes out. You know, mel 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:17.480 Chi Brad his first mock draft out. I didn't like it, 0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:21.760 you know, Uh, I don't like where he decided. 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:25.640 They don't call him the man back and for no reason. 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:30.080 But outside linebacker from Georgia, which pass rusher. 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:32.400 Was making Michael Williams or Jalen. 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:36.320 I think that mikeel Wade, I believe. 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:39.760 It makes no sense if you're going to have Sherwood 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:43.680 and and Williams and the inside. I mean, if that's 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:46.800 the case, I'd rather go Tywarn or go right tackle 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:51.400 from from Texas or you know, you go or you State, 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:54.720 or you go, or you go safety from from Georgia, 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:58.880 or you go cornerback from Michigan. If you think you're 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:01.480 gonna lose DJ Reed, I don't think you go past 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:03.720 Rusher in the position that's supposed to be a strength. 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:06.720 You think Jermaine Johnson coming back and Will McDonald proven 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:09.480 that he can be a double digit sack guy. You 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:11.840 got two different type of guys that do that. If 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:14.360 you can't get Graham in the middle because he had 0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:18.520 Jacksonville or somebody taking them. Yeah, I mean, which makes 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:19.760 sense with Jacksonville as well. 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:23.560 The Official Jets Podcast is presented by Kendra Scott, the 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:27.000 jewelry company that's shining bright and doing good shop, game 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:30.040 Day Ready, Jewelry Styles and so much more at kendrascott 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:30.680 dot com. 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:33.080 Man, this is so unique. 0:16:33.160 --> 0:16:36.400 How cool of historians is to is let me think 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:39.280 about this guy coming back and what this is gonna 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:40.120 mean to him. 0:16:40.560 --> 0:16:41.000 Uh. 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:45.160 To Bart's point, how much do you think it matters 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:49.320 that you got a guy who actually says, you know what, 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:53.600 I consider myself a Jet. I've always been a Jet, 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:57.280 and I'm coming back to the place where it started again. 0:16:57.720 --> 0:16:59.560 I'm reiterating by saying full circle. 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:02.840 But I thought it was very imperative in this process 0:17:02.840 --> 0:17:06.239 that the Jets got somebody who embraced all of it. 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:09.560 I think it's something to be said that the Jets 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:12.400 were the first place he visited, because I would say, 0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:15.920 besides Ben Johnson, he was the hottest coaching candidate out 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:18.240 there right, and he could have visited any team first. 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:20.439 I know he was scheduled to go to the New 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:24.280 Orleans Saints, where he's been a defensive coach as there 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:26.240 as well. But I think it's something to be said 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:28.560 that he chose the Jets to be his first visit, 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:30.720 and that lets you know what it meant to him 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:32.800 to be a Jet, for him to come home, right, 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:35.360 you said in the full circle moment, And that's exactly 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:37.159 what it is for Aaron Glenn. And that's why I 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:40.280 touted him to be my top guy, you know, a 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:43.440 while ago, because I think we needed somebody that knows 0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:45.320 what it means to wear the green and white and 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:47.320 not just wear it, to live what it needs to 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:51.000 be a New York Jet. So I love this. Getting 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:52.480 back to what Bart was saying, I think it will 0:17:52.520 --> 0:17:55.480 be important when it comes to his staff. You've seen 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:59.280 a lot of first time head coaches, particularly get somebody 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:01.359 on the defense, the officer side, that was a former 0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:03.160 head coach, and I think that goes a long way 0:18:03.640 --> 0:18:06.919 in your development as a new head coach, because you 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:09.160 want somebody that's done it before, somebody that you can 0:18:09.240 --> 0:18:11.760 lean on. I know we're not speculating anything, but I've 0:18:11.760 --> 0:18:13.880 heard Steve Wook's name come out there a little bit, 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:16.879 and I thought he got a bad straw with Arizona Carginals. 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:18.639 I love what I saw from him when he was 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:21.320 the interm head coach at the Carolina Panthers. He had 0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:24.160 those guys believing and they had a talent deficient roster, 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:25.680 but they were winning at the end of the year 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:29.000 with Steve Wooks Like he's a guy that guys love 0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:30.480 to play for. And now I know there were some 0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:33.240 issues in San Francisco and they went to the Super 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:35.280 Bowl with him as defensive coinator, and then he was 0:18:35.359 --> 0:18:38.359 let go the following year. But from everybody I heard, 0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:40.400