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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Official Jets Podcast. We are presented by
Speaker 1: Kendra Scott. It is the dawn of a new day
Speaker 1: as we bring in Lejay Dousable and Bart Scott. Aaron Glenn,
Speaker 1: the twenty second head coach in franchise history.
Speaker 6: Your thoughts starting with you, Bart.
Speaker 4: I mean welcome home.
Speaker 2: First of all, to Aaron Glenn, I thought that this
Speaker 2: was a good hire. You talk about what staff he
Speaker 2: can put together, but you talk about a guy that
Speaker 2: got you know, blood and soil. God has been here,
Speaker 2: played here, understands not only the fan base, he understands,
Speaker 2: you know, the pain that they that they had to
Speaker 2: deal with over the last couple of years, so it's
Speaker 2: personal to him, much like the situation was in Detroit
Speaker 2: with Dan Campbell, which gives him, I think an added
Speaker 2: advantage because as he speaks to the players in the team,
Speaker 2: you know he can he can echo those sentiments about
Speaker 2: how hard that he wants to play for the fan
Speaker 2: base and win for the fan base because it matters
Speaker 2: to him because he's been on both sides as a scout,
Speaker 2: as a player. You know the magic that they had
Speaker 2: with Bill Beller, Bill Parcells back in the day. He
Speaker 2: was part of that that that glory time as well,
Speaker 2: and it'd be exciting to see what has he learned
Speaker 2: in his journeys. He's been surround himself around some great coaches,
Speaker 2: some great coaching staff, whether Sean Payton rather than Dan Campbell,
Speaker 2: and he's seen, you know, different perspectives in different ways
Speaker 2: to to build a team. And I'm just excited to
Speaker 2: hear you know more about who he plans on bringing
Speaker 2: with him, as he probably competes with his former friend
Speaker 2: and Ben Johnson for staffing.
Speaker 1: Lejay, you circled AG's name from the get go when
Speaker 1: the Jets began their search for a head coach.
Speaker 3: Why I think to echo what Bart said. I think
Speaker 3: we needed somebody in the building that knows what it
Speaker 3: means to wear the Green and White and not just
Speaker 3: wear it, to like bleed it, to live it right.
Speaker 3: And that's what Aaron Glenn has done for the Green
Speaker 3: and White. If I'm not mistaken, maybe you and Bark
Speaker 3: could help me out. When you walk in on the
Speaker 3: front office side, on one desk drive and you go
Speaker 3: up the stairs, isn't there a big picture of Aaron
Speaker 3: Glynn there?
Speaker 1: Ag is throughout this building. Man, He's one of the
Speaker 1: best Jets who've ever played.
Speaker 3: Whoever was so correct, So again, it kind of feeds
Speaker 3: into the fact what Bart talked about. A guy that
Speaker 3: has been a New York Jet right, who's bled green
Speaker 3: and white, and I think that will resonate right with
Speaker 3: the rest of the players. You saw what happened in
Speaker 3: Detroit with Dan Campbell, a guy that played for the
Speaker 3: Detroit Lions, a guy that was a former player. Guys
Speaker 3: can relate to a guy like that because he knows
Speaker 3: what it takes to get to the pinnacle, to be
Speaker 3: a top player in the NFL. And that's what Aaron
Speaker 3: Glynn does. Before Derel revis it was Aaron Glynn that
Speaker 3: was the corner that everybody looked up to for the
Speaker 3: New York Jets, right. So I think this was a
Speaker 3: spot that he touted because it is a homecoming for him,
Speaker 3: and I think that'll go a long way into the
Speaker 3: locker room buying, into buying into what his vision is
Speaker 3: for this team. I think he's also a culture changer.
Speaker 3: I go back to the Hard Knocks episode when Dan
Speaker 3: Campbell had Aaron Glynn speak in front of everybody. It
Speaker 3: wasn't just the players, it was the coaches, in the
Speaker 3: front office people as well. And I've never seen a
Speaker 3: room more engage, which lets you know he can command
Speaker 3: the room, which lets you know he's a leader of men.
Speaker 3: I've taught to numerous people that have played and worked
Speaker 3: under Aaron Glynn and worked with him, and everybody's had
Speaker 3: a glow in admiration for who Aaron Glynn is as
Speaker 3: a leader, right, And I think it's the most important thing.
Speaker 3: And Bart brought up a really good point because, yes,
Speaker 3: to just Haven an officially named a GM, but he
Speaker 3: has a background of scouting as well, so he's gonna
Speaker 3: be able to help out on the personnel side in
Speaker 3: regards to bringing in the right personnel into one's jets drive.
Speaker 3: So again we'll see what established like to Bart's point,
Speaker 3: because that's just as important as bringing the right head coach,
Speaker 3: in bringing the right staff into to develop the players
Speaker 3: that's on the roster. But home run hit. I love
Speaker 3: it because he's not only an ex player, but he's
Speaker 3: an ex Jet and he knows what it means to
Speaker 3: wear the green and white.
Speaker 1: Bart, you play here, what do you think about that
Speaker 1: narrative that here's a former first round pick, a guy
Speaker 1: who's got twenty four interceptions forty one career interceptions as
Speaker 1: a player, and then he comes back on the scouting side,
Speaker 1: works in the personnel department on the pro and the
Speaker 1: college side in twelve and thirteen, and now he returns
Speaker 1: his first gig as a head coach, comes back here.
Speaker 1: Everything coming full circle for Aaron Lutt.
Speaker 2: Well, like I said, sometimes, you know, I kind of
Speaker 2: go back to this thing that Bernard Hopkins used to
Speaker 2: tell me, what's made will last longer than what's born. Right,
Speaker 2: and you talk about you know where did he get
Speaker 2: you know, how do he arise to this point? Well,
Speaker 2: it was with hard work, and you know, I remember
Speaker 2: listening to him. On my radio show, we played a
Speaker 2: clip of him on the Pivot talking about how he
Speaker 2: wanted to start from the bottom. He didn't want to
Speaker 2: have to skip any steps because he wanted to know
Speaker 2: when he got the opportunity that he'd be prepared for.
Speaker 2: And being on every aspect of it means that he
Speaker 2: can speak to it, and he understands the process, and
Speaker 2: he can understand where the process can maybe be better
Speaker 2: if it's not there because he has firsthand experience and
Speaker 2: knowledge about those experiences. So that's what I like about
Speaker 2: the fact that, you know, he's a guy that wasn't
Speaker 2: an overnight sensation, uh success story as far as in
Speaker 2: the coaching realms. He kind of paid his dues and
Speaker 2: he's earned every every rite that he's gotten. And this
Speaker 2: was the right time, you know, talk about you know,
Speaker 2: being on the stage. Everybody knew that the Lions were
Speaker 2: going to have a spotlight on him coming off of
Speaker 2: the season that they had to year before, and he
Speaker 2: didn't underwhelm. You know, you talked about he did the
Speaker 2: best of what he had and even if you go
Speaker 2: to the playoff game, we had moments Brown on the
Speaker 2: show as well, and he just spoke to the injuries
Speaker 2: and the importance of you know what he was dealing with,
Speaker 2: because I wanted people to hear from moments, who's a
Speaker 2: lion who caused their games to talk about, you know,
Speaker 2: the adversity that he had to deal with losing I
Speaker 2: forget the corner's name the first play of the game,
Speaker 2: and then losing Yeah Robinson, and then losing the other
Speaker 2: player to a hamstring after he already had eighteen injuries.
Speaker 2: You know, they weren't all defensively, but he kept continue
Speaker 2: to find ways, and that's what being a coach in
Speaker 2: football is all about, Like, don't tell me who I
Speaker 2: have and what I have, you know, you know, don't
Speaker 2: tell me what I don't have, tell me what I
Speaker 2: do have, and I'll find a way to coach around it.
Speaker 2: And he did an excellent job in coaching around it.
Speaker 2: It wasn't his day, unfortunately, but he showed that you know, adversity,
Speaker 2: when adversity hits, he doesn't blink.
Speaker 4: He still had guy's prepared.
Speaker 2: He still was able to go, You'll beat the fourteen
Speaker 2: in two Minnesota vikings, and he was trying his best
Speaker 2: to try and find a way to patch that defense
Speaker 2: up together. That's football, and especially if they're going to
Speaker 2: go to an eighteen game season. I need somebody that
Speaker 2: can coach whoever they have and be able to put
Speaker 2: it together.
Speaker 1: How much will that most recent experience, dudes help him.
Speaker 1: He was a defensive coordinator under Dan Campbell there with
Speaker 1: the Lions.
Speaker 6: For four years. That group started three thirteen and one.
Speaker 1: They were one in six in that second year, and
Speaker 1: they stuck to the process. They win two consecutive NFC
Speaker 1: North Crowns, They win four playoff games, they advanced the
Speaker 1: n C Championship Game found the twenty twenty three twenty
Speaker 1: four season, and Bart just talked about how they were
Speaker 1: decimated with injuries and still with that being said, they
Speaker 1: won fifteen games, fifteen games in Detroit this season.
Speaker 3: I think it speaks value how he was able to
Speaker 3: get players to still buy and even dealing with that
Speaker 3: type of adversity, right, because when you go three thirteen
Speaker 3: and one, a lot of guys would pack it up, right,
Speaker 3: and then the next season you start one in five,
Speaker 3: one and six, and Bart, you know this because you
Speaker 3: played a long time, like it could be a snowball effect,
Speaker 3: like here we go again, right, But they kept everybody together,
Speaker 3: and you talked about a ea like they were decimated
Speaker 3: on that side of the ball. And this was the
Speaker 3: first year on that team where ag actually got the
Speaker 3: personnel that kind of fit his mole, right, because let's
Speaker 3: not forget right. They brought in a Meet Robinson. He
Speaker 3: was with the Raiders last year, right. Carlton Davis was
Speaker 3: a guy that was with the Bucks and they traded
Speaker 3: for him. And when he actually had all his guys,
Speaker 3: they were a top five defense, Bartney A like people
Speaker 3: tend to forget that, And even when Aiden Hudgerson went
Speaker 3: down for like the next three or four weeks, they
Speaker 3: were still a top five defense and one of the
Speaker 3: most opportunistic defenses in all of football. I go back
Speaker 3: to that San Francisco game where they were decimated with injuries,
Speaker 3: and yet Kirby Joseph still gets two interceptions and sways
Speaker 3: the game in their favor. Yes, they get a ton
Speaker 3: of yards, but you know this, bart if you can
Speaker 3: turn the other team over with the type of offense
Speaker 3: that the Lions have, you got a good chance to
Speaker 3: win the game. And you talked about how Meet Robinson
Speaker 3: stood toe to toe with Justin Jefferson. You don't think
Speaker 3: that confidence came from a guy like ag who was undersized,
Speaker 3: just like a Meek Robinson who probably gave him some
Speaker 3: confidence going into this game and saying, hey, they doubted
Speaker 3: me too. They didn't think I could do it at
Speaker 3: a high level because I was undersized. And a Meet
Speaker 3: Robinson kind of reminds me of Aaron.
Speaker 7: Glynn because the tenacity and the grit that he plays
Speaker 7: with reminds me of what Aaron Glenn had to go
Speaker 7: through when he was at corner because he was an
Speaker 7: undersized corner. So I think it just speaks value to
Speaker 7: the leadership that Aaron Glynn had. You guys talked about
Speaker 7: at nauseum, the injuries they dealt with on the defensive
Speaker 7: side of the ball and whether it was a guy
Speaker 7: coming off the street.
Speaker 3: He got them all to buy in right now. Again,
Speaker 3: they gave up a ton of yards, but that's what
Speaker 3: is expected and bart you know this as a defense,
Speaker 3: a lot of it comes down to communication. And people
Speaker 3: were wondering why didn't Aaron Glenn kind of change up
Speaker 3: his philosophy. Well, the thing is, when you're getting your
Speaker 3: four fifth, sixth corner and safety in the game and
Speaker 3: they haven't had repped with the starters. Communication is key.
Speaker 3: If you go zone coverage and somebody's like communicating, you
Speaker 3: get a guy wide open. Well, in man coverage, there
Speaker 3: is no excuse. You know who you've got. So he
Speaker 3: was trying to make it as easy as possible and
Speaker 3: adjust to the personnelity he had. So I think it
Speaker 3: speaks values to that that those guys still laid it
Speaker 3: on the line for him even though they dealt with
Speaker 3: all that adversity and the injuries.
Speaker 1: How about the program see Spinander Fellas. When you go
Speaker 1: back to his playing days, I would make the argument
Speaker 1: that Bill Parcells is the best program builder in the
Speaker 1: history of the.
Speaker 6: National Football League. He started that turn here with the Jets.
Speaker 1: But then you move on and say, okay, he worked
Speaker 1: in New Orleans. Him and Campbell were on the staff
Speaker 1: under Sean Payton, and we know the success they had
Speaker 1: in New Orleans, of course, and then finally he goes
Speaker 1: with Dan Campbell in Detroit and we are all able
Speaker 1: to turn that culture around.
Speaker 2: Bart Well, you know, it just goes to show that
Speaker 2: you know he was taught, well, he's taught different philosophy.
Speaker 2: I'm sure he learned something from every coach that he
Speaker 2: was around. I mean, and to have a friend that
Speaker 2: you coached with kind of get the first opportunity, but
Speaker 2: for him to believe that, hey, I want my success
Speaker 2: to be your success, and I trust you because I've
Speaker 2: been in the foxhole with you, to brank him to Detroit,
Speaker 2: even when early on when they weren't having a success
Speaker 2: because they didn't have the personnel, it was calls to
Speaker 2: fire Aaron Glynn. The fact that he weathered that storm
Speaker 2: and on the other side of that was two NFC
Speaker 2: championships within two years turning that program around. You know,
Speaker 2: people talk about, you know fan bases that are star
Speaker 2: for a winner. Well, listen, it's hard pressed for me
Speaker 2: to find any fan base that was more hard pressed
Speaker 2: for a winning product than the Detroit Lions. Being from
Speaker 2: Detroit and seeing the firsthand, I've never seen anything such
Speaker 2: things once or twice underneath Barry Sanders. After that, you
Speaker 2: got to go to Alex Carrits and go back to
Speaker 2: Webster to figure out when the last time the Lions
Speaker 2: had any type of success. You know, look to Aaron Glenn.
Speaker 2: I'm excited to see what he's learned. He has to
Speaker 2: make it his own, I'm sure he'll understand, he'll find
Speaker 2: his footing. I hear that he wants to bring in
Speaker 2: a defensive minded defensive coordinator that has head coaching experience.
Speaker 2: You know, that could be one of many people. I'm
Speaker 2: not going to speculate, you know, but that can be
Speaker 2: one of many people that could be important for him
Speaker 2: to understand the nuance of, you know, the administrative stuff
Speaker 2: that you have to figure out as a defense as
Speaker 2: a defensive minded coach that is now becoming a head
Speaker 2: coach and not just coaching one side of the ball.
Speaker 1: Can you talk about, dudes, his connection that he's had
Speaker 1: with players, because I think people will say that Aaron
Speaker 1: Glenn is a player's coach, but when you hear players speak,
Speaker 1: they talk about him demanding accountability and discipline and knows
Speaker 1: our trade marks of Aaron Glenn coordinated units or position
Speaker 1: groups and now of the opportunity to oversee the whole thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you see it in many clips when he's one
Speaker 3: one just talking to players about their process and getting
Speaker 3: ready for work and how they go about their business.
Speaker 3: Like he demands that you're locked into your job day
Speaker 3: in and day out, And I think that's something that
Speaker 3: is going to be needed in this just locker room
Speaker 3: demand that you be at your best at all time
Speaker 3: when your best is required. Right, Because again Aaron Glenn,
Speaker 3: with the mindset that he has smaller corner, Right, I
Speaker 3: had to be more detailed than the guy next to me. Right,
Speaker 3: I had to be more feisty and aggressive and physical
Speaker 3: the guy that I was going up against, because measurable wise,
Speaker 3: I wasn't maybe at the stature of that guy. So
Speaker 3: I had to either I was smarter them, I'll think
Speaker 3: him or our physical like that is his mindset. So
Speaker 3: I think that's something that's going to really resonate within
Speaker 3: this locker room and something that needs to change for
Speaker 3: the culture in the Jets locker room as well. That's
Speaker 3: something that Aaron Glenn will will try to set a
Speaker 3: president on day one.
Speaker 1: What do you think are some of those first steps
Speaker 1: that dudes is talking about you mentioned and this is
Speaker 1: huge ag assembling a staff there bart And I know
Speaker 1: he's already hard at work taking care of that right now.
Speaker 1: But in addition to getting that staff set, what does
Speaker 1: he have to do, what are some of its first steps?
Speaker 2: His first steps is going to first be I mean
Speaker 2: as a coach or as you know, continue to build
Speaker 2: his staff.
Speaker 4: Building his staff is what he had to work on first.
Speaker 4: Then secondly it's about getting together with the general manager.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know if it's been a general
Speaker 2: manager that has been higher yet, but figuring out what's
Speaker 2: going to be the game plan. You know, we we
Speaker 2: can expeculate who we think is going to be, but
Speaker 2: until it's on paper, pin the paper, then we can't,
Speaker 2: you know, go that route. But you know, the first
Speaker 2: decision he's going to have to make as far as
Speaker 2: personnel wise, you know, being a form of Scott is
Speaker 2: going to be does he want to be with Aaron
Speaker 2: Rodgers or does Aaron Rodgers stay here? Because you feel
Speaker 2: like if Aaron Rodgers isn't going to be here, to
Speaker 2: the mean's Debonte.
Speaker 4: Adam's probably not going to be here. You know, you
Speaker 4: heard him.
Speaker 2: He's in Kay Adams show a little bit that hey,
Speaker 2: maybe he'd like to play in Washington if if it
Speaker 2: doesn't work out with the Jets, and you know, everybody's
Speaker 2: kind of you know, my agree reading to the fact
Speaker 2: that Jade dames A is a exceptional talent ahead of
Speaker 2: schedule and you know that's that's reasonable there, But he
Speaker 2: has to figure out the personnel then figure out, you know,
Speaker 2: what they're gonna do with the draft pick. That's where
Speaker 2: the scouting, uh the park comes out. You know, mel
Speaker 2: Chi Brad his first mock draft out. I didn't like it,
Speaker 2: you know, Uh, I don't like where he decided.
Speaker 6: They don't call him the man back and for no reason.
Speaker 4: But outside linebacker from Georgia, which pass rusher.
Speaker 3: Was making Michael Williams or Jalen.
Speaker 4: I think that mikeel Wade, I believe.
Speaker 2: It makes no sense if you're going to have Sherwood
Speaker 2: and and Williams and the inside. I mean, if that's
Speaker 2: the case, I'd rather go Tywarn or go right tackle
Speaker 2: from from Texas or you know, you go or you State,
Speaker 2: or you go, or you go safety from from Georgia,
Speaker 2: or you go cornerback from Michigan. If you think you're
Speaker 2: gonna lose DJ Reed, I don't think you go past
Speaker 2: Rusher in the position that's supposed to be a strength.
Speaker 2: You think Jermaine Johnson coming back and Will McDonald proven
Speaker 2: that he can be a double digit sack guy. You
Speaker 2: got two different type of guys that do that. If
Speaker 2: you can't get Graham in the middle because he had
Speaker 2: Jacksonville or somebody taking them. Yeah, I mean, which makes
Speaker 2: sense with Jacksonville as well.
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Speaker 6: Man, this is so unique.
Speaker 1: How cool of historians is to is let me think
Speaker 1: about this guy coming back and what this is gonna
Speaker 1: mean to him.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: To Bart's point, how much do you think it matters
Speaker 1: that you got a guy who actually says, you know what,
Speaker 1: I consider myself a Jet. I've always been a Jet,
Speaker 1: and I'm coming back to the place where it started again.
Speaker 6: I'm reiterating by saying full circle.
Speaker 1: But I thought it was very imperative in this process
Speaker 1: that the Jets got somebody who embraced all of it.
Speaker 3: I think it's something to be said that the Jets
Speaker 3: were the first place he visited, because I would say,
Speaker 3: besides Ben Johnson, he was the hottest coaching candidate out
Speaker 3: there right, and he could have visited any team first.
Speaker 3: I know he was scheduled to go to the New
Speaker 3: Orleans Saints, where he's been a defensive coach as there
Speaker 3: as well. But I think it's something to be said
Speaker 3: that he chose the Jets to be his first visit,
Speaker 3: and that lets you know what it meant to him
Speaker 3: to be a Jet, for him to come home, right,
Speaker 3: you said in the full circle moment, And that's exactly
Speaker 3: what it is for Aaron Glenn. And that's why I
Speaker 3: touted him to be my top guy, you know, a
Speaker 3: while ago, because I think we needed somebody that knows
Speaker 3: what it means to wear the green and white and
Speaker 3: not just wear it, to live what it needs to
Speaker 3: be a New York Jet. So I love this. Getting
Speaker 3: back to what Bart was saying, I think it will
Speaker 3: be important when it comes to his staff. You've seen
Speaker 3: a lot of first time head coaches, particularly get somebody
Speaker 3: on the defense, the officer side, that was a former
Speaker 3: head coach, and I think that goes a long way
Speaker 3: in your development as a new head coach, because you
Speaker 3: want somebody that's done it before, somebody that you can
Speaker 3: lean on. I know we're not speculating anything, but I've
Speaker 3: heard Steve Wook's name come out there a little bit,
Speaker 3: and I thought he got a bad straw with Arizona Carginals.
Speaker 3: I love what I saw from him when he was
Speaker 3: the interm head coach at the Carolina Panthers. He had
Speaker 3: those guys believing and they had a talent deficient roster,
Speaker 3: but they were winning at the end of the year
Speaker 3: with Steve Wooks Like he's a guy that guys love
Speaker 3: to play for. And now I know there were some
Speaker 3: issues in San Francisco and they went to the Super
Speaker 3: Bowl with him as defensive coinator, and then he was
Speaker 3: let go the following year. But from everybody I heard,
Speaker 3: I think he would be a home run higher by
Speaker 3: Aaron Glenn just because you want somebody that's done it before, right,
Speaker 3: somebody that you can lean on as a former head coach.
Speaker 3: I think that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know if it happen.
Speaker 2: If we were on a podcast and it's a Jet podcast,
Speaker 2: Let's get a fans what they want.
Speaker 4: Cole cok plan.
Speaker 2: If you think about a former head coach, you know,
Speaker 2: you think about Rex Ryan, you know, I mean you
Speaker 2: talk about how crazy that.
Speaker 3: I mean, that makes a lot of sense too, if
Speaker 3: he came if he.
Speaker 4: Came back full circle.
Speaker 2: I know people have speculating, say, oh well maybe Rex
Speaker 2: wouldn't do that. I know he interviewed for Dallas and
Speaker 2: maybe just be a little bit too personal for him
Speaker 2: to come back and when he interviewed for the job here.
Speaker 4: But you know we did watch Van's Joseph do it.
Speaker 4: But I've just been.
Speaker 2: Hoping for this team for a long time that somebody
Speaker 2: can turn his team into a three four team. So
Speaker 2: I'm ristening for somebody who's special, she's a three four
Speaker 2: team because I would love to see, you know, Quinnen
Speaker 2: as a five technique and then also pair him with
Speaker 2: Graham and just find whoever's the fattest dude that's out
Speaker 2: there and pluck him right in the middle. So maybe
Speaker 2: maybe maybe tell Peers for the Ravens, hey man, no retire,
Speaker 2: just come bring your fatass here and just sitting in the.
Speaker 3: I mean to your point, to your point, Rex and
Speaker 3: Steve Wilkes won a three fourth system and Aaron Glynn
Speaker 3: does too. I said to you three yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know that's what he runs. It would makes sense
Speaker 3: like he went to the four to three when he
Speaker 3: went to Shanahan and then but that's not is style
Speaker 3: by nature three for.
Speaker 2: It, Okay, So that's perfect for me because I would
Speaker 2: love McDonald and and Johnson to kind of to be
Speaker 2: the edge guys. Yeah, that way, you're gonna get five
Speaker 2: on five right against you. Talking about pass rushing and
Speaker 2: taking advantage of the personnel.
Speaker 3: You can't and wants to do anyway.
Speaker 2: So you really you really can't double Quinn if he's
Speaker 2: outside the guard and he got into somebody rushing outside
Speaker 2: and you can't double him that way. So that's that's
Speaker 2: one on ones that allow him to take advantage of
Speaker 2: the of the personnel. Like I said, the grand kids
Speaker 2: can can can stop the run and anchor, but also
Speaker 2: be a guy that can you know, a guy that
Speaker 2: can pass rush to a convert. So I mean, so
Speaker 2: that that's what that's what you know, my wish, my
Speaker 2: wish list is that you know that you were able
Speaker 2: to do something like that and you know, go get
Speaker 2: a guy like jyr Alexander or something like that, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, bring him all over, you know.
Speaker 4: So I'm who wish I'm wish for thinking.
Speaker 3: Right now, you know what I mean. But that's just
Speaker 3: really think.
Speaker 4: That's what I hope, hopeful, hopeful a fat dude.
Speaker 3: It's hard to find.
Speaker 6: But for a fact, dude for a long time.
Speaker 4: Bad dudes talking about bad news are important.
Speaker 2: Man. I think you need somebody that can eat up too,
Speaker 2: right without athleticism.
Speaker 1: Thirty thousand foot view. Do you think, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: hear from ag here in the next day or so
Speaker 1: or maybe next week. News just broke today here on
Speaker 1: January twenty second, that he'd agreed and principal will become
Speaker 1: the New York Jets twenty second head coach.
Speaker 6: Do you think, ultimately see all type.
Speaker 1: When you're looking at this, that he's not going to
Speaker 1: be the guy calling defensive plays?
Speaker 6: What do you think this?
Speaker 3: So that's that's the question mark, right, And it's always
Speaker 3: a conundrum, right because I go around and look at
Speaker 3: the lead. The Mika Ryans is a guy that was
Speaker 3: a defensive coordinator in San France. He's the head coach
Speaker 3: for the Texans and he still calls plays. Sean McDermott
Speaker 3: call plays, then gave the duty up, then got it back,
Speaker 3: then gave it up again. I think as a first
Speaker 3: time head coach, you should let somebody else call the
Speaker 3: plays right now. If you feel like you need to
Speaker 3: step in, then you have to do that. But if
Speaker 3: you do hire a guy like Rex Ryan. You do
Speaker 3: hire a guy like Steve Wilks. These are guys that
Speaker 3: have been top defensive coordinators and head coaches, so you
Speaker 3: can lean on them, right, because there's so much and
Speaker 3: bar you know this, and yeah you know this as well.
Speaker 3: There's so much that you have to endure as a
Speaker 3: head coach. There's so much that you have to worry about.
Speaker 3: Like again, the mik O Ryans does it. A few
Speaker 3: other coaches. There's a lot of guys on the offensive
Speaker 3: side that do that, and they really just trust their
Speaker 3: defensive coinator. So it's not the same, but I think
Speaker 3: it's a lot as a defensive minded coach to bring
Speaker 3: the morenator and still have your handprint on the offense.
Speaker 3: I think he would have to relinquish those play calling duties,
Speaker 3: especially if he gets a guy that has head coaching
Speaker 3: experience that's a defensive coordinator.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would think as a defensive as a defensive
Speaker 2: minded former head coach, I don't think they would take
Speaker 2: that job if they can't run their system, if they're
Speaker 2: going to be micro managed, Like if he was just
Speaker 2: getting a guy that was maybe the line back acker
Speaker 2: coach over there, when I talked to Lomans. That's who
Speaker 2: they probably predict it's going to be the defensive coordinator
Speaker 2: to replace Aaron Glenn because he's a fantastic over there.
Speaker 8: Then if you were backing about Tavia Shephard, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 8: so if you're if you were breaking him over, then
Speaker 8: maybe then maybe you were re linking that. But you know,
Speaker 8: if you're a head coach, I'm here to be and
Speaker 8: he probably you probably to lure one of those guys over,
Speaker 8: you probably have to make them an assistant head coach
Speaker 8: as well to make sure that it just works and
Speaker 8: makes it worse there while it allows you to pay
Speaker 8: them a little bit more money.
Speaker 4: I mean where Rex came.
Speaker 2: Over, you know, he he he would have effects on
Speaker 2: it on the game plan and stuff like that, but
Speaker 2: it really was Mike Petty making the call.
Speaker 4: So you have to be able to deal with that,
Speaker 4: all right, So let's.
Speaker 1: Get out of here with this A lot of questions ahead.
Speaker 1: You talked about the staff, We've been throwing some names
Speaker 1: out there. You guys, uh well informed there, and then
Speaker 1: the quarterback question and then also the Jets have to
Speaker 1: fill their GM spot. But this is an exciting day, right,
Speaker 1: A step forward to begin the offseason.
Speaker 3: Yeah, without a doubt. Right, you hire a new coach,
Speaker 3: a guy that was in the building that wore the
Speaker 3: green and white. I think this is an exciting day
Speaker 3: for Jet Nation to your point, eaight right, Usually when
Speaker 3: you hire a new coach and the GM jobs available,
Speaker 3: you kind of want them to be in step together.
Speaker 3: So again, I know we're not in the hypothetical war,
Speaker 3: but I've heard Lance Newmark makes a lot of sense
Speaker 3: for the New York Jets. He's a guy that worked
Speaker 3: with Aaron Glynn at the Detroit Lions. And you got
Speaker 3: to think about it, Bart, you talked about a year
Speaker 3: from Detroit last. Newmark was there through it all. He's
Speaker 3: been there for twenty years when they were at the
Speaker 3: bottom of the barrel, when they were at the top
Speaker 3: of the top. So he knows how to build it
Speaker 3: up the right way. And then he goes to the
Speaker 3: commanders and then one year becomes the number two behind
Speaker 3: Adam Peters and they flipped that roster round and look
Speaker 3: at them during the NFC Championship game. So I just
Speaker 3: think that parallel makes way too much sense. What do
Speaker 3: you talk about potentially pairing Lance Newmark and Eron Glenn.
Speaker 3: I think first and foremost that needs to be done
Speaker 3: the GMS. That way they can get in there because
Speaker 3: Singer Bowl is right around the corner, right east west
Speaker 3: is this week. I know the Jets would like to
Speaker 3: have somebody in place so they can start building a
Speaker 3: game plan for what the future looks like for the Jets.
Speaker 6: How many career interceptions did you guys having an NFL?
Speaker 4: I have none, I probably have four. I've probably got four.
Speaker 6: You have four. I got a double check on that. Hey,
Speaker 6: G's got you by a couple forty couple.
Speaker 4: For more concussions.
Speaker 1: Only two one hundred yard returns in Jets history. I
Speaker 1: mean he's the only guy who's got two one hundred
Speaker 1: yard returns, also a scout, and he's now the twenty
Speaker 1: second take coach in franchise history.
Speaker 6: Thanks Ball, it's good scene to stay warm.
Speaker 3: I love Yeah,