WEBVTT - Legs! Legs! Legs! (The Periodic Table)

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<v Speaker 1>Que Josh Trumpet. But you know what that means, everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>On Welcome to Stuff you Should Know, a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, and welcome to the podcast Josh, And there's Chuck

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<v Speaker 2>and Jerry's here too. And this is the We'll get

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<v Speaker 2>through it edition of Stuff you Should Know about the

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<v Speaker 2>periodic teaple.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh huh. I have other names for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'll bet you do. Can you say any of them.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the only time I hate my job. Edition.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the uh. Now we can stop talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the sun episode maybe edition uh? And this is the

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<v Speaker 1>My god, why do we ever do episodes on chemistry? Edition?

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<v Speaker 1>I failed chemistry. It's the only thing I've ever failed

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<v Speaker 1>was chemistry.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I even ever took chemistry. To tell

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<v Speaker 2>you the.

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<v Speaker 1>Truth, Hey, he didn't fail it, right, I fail if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't try.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's my motto. Here's what I figured out about this,

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<v Speaker 2>like driving myself mad trying to learn this stuff and

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<v Speaker 2>understand it. There is a lot of people out there

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<v Speaker 2>who have written articles and explainers on the stuff that

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about, who literally don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>they're talking about, and yet they're presenting their information like

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<v Speaker 2>they do and it's wrong and you can't understand it,

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<v Speaker 2>or in cases where you can't understand it, it still

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't fully answer the question. There's a lot of stuff

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<v Speaker 2>out there like that on this especially as it gets

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<v Speaker 2>more and more like ourcane.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a whole group of people out there, chemists, molecular chemists,

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<v Speaker 2>physicists who understand this, but you can put them all

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<v Speaker 2>together and they can't coherently explain any of it to

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<v Speaker 2>anybody else. They can just talk to one another like

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<v Speaker 2>this where we are where us and everybody listening to

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<v Speaker 2>this episode right now is stuck in the middle. We

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<v Speaker 2>know enough that we can notice when somebody is wrong

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<v Speaker 2>or not correct or doesn't know what they're talking about,

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<v Speaker 2>but we don't know enough to understand what the actual

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<v Speaker 2>scientists are saying and then come back and explain it. So,

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<v Speaker 2>first of all, Breton cap off to Olivia for helping

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<v Speaker 2>us with this one.

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<v Speaker 1>Boy, Olivia should get a bonus for this one, quite

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<v Speaker 1>frank for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>And then second we might have to edit that out

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<v Speaker 2>lot's rack the budget. Secondly, we can we're smart enough

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<v Speaker 2>to get all this across. We are, but we're also

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<v Speaker 2>transparent enough to admit when we're like, we don't understand

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<v Speaker 2>this part.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean there's a few parts I still don't get.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I imagine The good news is I imagine that maybe about

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<v Speaker 1>twenty percent of our listenership is even hearing this right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope more than that, because it's really interesting stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you click on something called how the periodic table works?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we're gonna have to come up with something else.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we'll call this one legs, legs, legs.

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<v Speaker 1>Colin tiny lettering, periodic table exactly the sex episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. Well, see, we'll trick them into listening to it.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I know I can get some of this

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<v Speaker 1>at the beginning, So if you'll allow me to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about one of the only parts I understand, sure, all right, great,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll kick it off because we have to set the

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<v Speaker 1>stage sort of for pre periodic table construction, which is

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<v Speaker 1>to say that early I'm sorry, late in the eighteenth century,

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<v Speaker 1>we were working from sciences, working from the arist Totolian Aristotelian. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's to say Aristotle system, which is which we've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about some recently, which is, hey, we got four elements fire, earth, water,

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<v Speaker 1>and air. And then after that science became a little

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<v Speaker 1>more nuanced, and they're like, hey, actually we think there

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<v Speaker 1>are more things out there, more building blocks. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we can distinguish them from one another and categorize them,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe based on their mass. And this was sort of

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<v Speaker 1>the scene when in eighteen oh four a oddly English

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<v Speaker 1>school teacher who was also a researcher named John Dalton said,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, things are made up of smaller things maybe these,

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<v Speaker 1>which is not new like for you know, ancient cultures.

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<v Speaker 1>We're even talking about things being up of smaller things.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we talked about democritis in that episode, about things

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<v Speaker 2>we believe before the scientific method.

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<v Speaker 1>Totally. That's exactly where it was. He said things are

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<v Speaker 1>made up maybe of like these little tiny, indestructible, indivisible atoms.

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<v Speaker 1>He got a lot of that wrong, but one thing

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<v Speaker 1>he got right was the idea that no, two elements

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<v Speaker 1>that we know about so far, which were not very

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<v Speaker 1>many at all at that point, can have an identical

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<v Speaker 1>mass and all the atoms of that element have the

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<v Speaker 1>same mass, which also wasn't quite right, but at the

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<v Speaker 1>time it was right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because you got to give it up to these guys.

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<v Speaker 2>When we're like analyzing elements and atoms and stuff today

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<v Speaker 2>we're using like spectrometry and particle accelerators and doing all

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<v Speaker 2>sorts of amazing stuff. These guys are like burning things,

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<v Speaker 2>this is eighteen o four, boiling them in acid. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Like they were doing all the stuff that a high

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<v Speaker 2>school chemistry teacher does to demonstrate chemistry. That's what they

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<v Speaker 2>were doing to actually isolate elements and like weigh them.

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<v Speaker 2>They were weighing things like oxygen. Like they figured out

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<v Speaker 2>that if you take a leader of oxygen, you will

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<v Speaker 2>find that it weighs one point five grams. No matter

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<v Speaker 2>where in the world you weigh it, it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>weigh one point five grams. Like that's what these people

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<v Speaker 2>were doing. Can you capture a leader of oxygen? I

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<v Speaker 2>can't know. I mean, like what they were doing was

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<v Speaker 2>the hardcore like bloody up, like roll up your sleeves

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<v Speaker 2>kind of chemistry. Like apparently it was like one of

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest scientific pushes of the nineteenth century was identifying elements,

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<v Speaker 2>and John Dalton was the first to say, Hey, some

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<v Speaker 2>of these I think we can kind of like try

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<v Speaker 2>to organize them a little bit. And Dalton didn't discover

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<v Speaker 2>any elements, from what I understand, he was just the

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<v Speaker 2>first one to come up with atomic theory in the

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<v Speaker 2>modern age and try to start ordering them based on

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<v Speaker 2>atomic weight.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly. It wasn't quite the periodic table yet, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was a precursor foresure. And his very first version

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<v Speaker 1>in eighteen oh three only had the five elements that

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<v Speaker 1>we knew about at the time hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen, carbon,

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<v Speaker 1>and sulfur, nitrogen, was known as I think we said

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<v Speaker 1>this in another episode the Azote or is it a zote?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess okay Azot. His second list, just five years later,

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<v Speaker 1>was up to twenty elements, and then twenty four years later,

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<v Speaker 1>by eighteen twenty seven, that list was up to thirty six.

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<v Speaker 1>And as science was progressing, they started noticing patterns, and

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<v Speaker 1>they started noticing sort of intervals where things would repeat themselves,

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<v Speaker 1>such that all of a sudden, A German chemist named

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<v Speaker 1>Ahn Wolfgong in eighteen twenty nine said, well, wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>we're noticing these patterns, and some of these things are

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<v Speaker 1>the same, Like if you look at lithium, sodium, potassium,

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<v Speaker 1>they have very similar properties and we might can group

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<v Speaker 1>those together, and those three in the modern periodic table

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<v Speaker 1>are grouped together in the same column. So he was

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<v Speaker 1>right on the money as far as that idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I mean, we as humans are obsessed with

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<v Speaker 2>finding patterns and things, and like discovering a latent pattern

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<v Speaker 2>in nature. I mean, there's few things more exciting than that.

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<v Speaker 2>So these guys were looking for patterns even in places

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<v Speaker 2>where they didn't necessarily exist, maybe maneuvering things where they

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<v Speaker 2>should or shouldn't be. Some people took some cracks at

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<v Speaker 2>it to try to to try to kind of organize

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<v Speaker 2>these elements by pattern, but they ran into some problems.

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<v Speaker 2>One was the chemistry wasn't as exact as it needed

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<v Speaker 2>to be to really organize stuff. There were elements that

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't been discovered yet, so there are big missing chunks,

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<v Speaker 2>but they didn't necessarily know they're big missing chunks. But

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<v Speaker 2>they were on the right track that you could order

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<v Speaker 2>these things one way or another, and when you did,

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<v Speaker 2>they would start showing patterns periodicity. Periodic table means that

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<v Speaker 2>there are periods or patterns that repeat themselves depending on

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<v Speaker 2>how you organize these elements.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and the modern periodic table that we know and loathe, Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I loath that thing that they pull down in science class,

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<v Speaker 1>that you know teenagers just blankly stare at, not knowing

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<v Speaker 1>what the heck they're looking at. But it's pretty sure

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<v Speaker 1>if you say so. We owe that to a Russian

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<v Speaker 1>chemist named Dmitri Mendelev. And Mendelev in eighteen sixty nine

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<v Speaker 1>was working on the very first Russian language organic chemistry

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<v Speaker 1>textbook in eighteen sixty nine and said, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>we have sixty three three elements. At this point, I

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<v Speaker 1>think we can organize these, and he did so he

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<v Speaker 1>arranged things in columns. He had to reorder some things

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<v Speaker 1>from the previous order. So he's like, maybe we shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>organize just by atomic mass, maybe we should order them

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<v Speaker 1>into these similarities and how they behave. And the big,

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<v Speaker 1>big thing that Mendelev landed on was leaving gaps where

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<v Speaker 1>he saw gaps and instead of just you know, buttoning

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<v Speaker 1>it up and making it look a certain way, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to leave a gap here. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>actually what kind of proved his worth in the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that he was really on the right track, because in

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<v Speaker 1>the fifteen years following him leaving those gaps, three elements

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<v Speaker 1>were discovered that fit those very gaps that he had

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<v Speaker 1>left perfectly, like a little puzzle piece.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like the molecular chemistry version of Babe Ruth calling

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<v Speaker 2>a shot. Yeah, basically essentially, So like when it turned

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<v Speaker 2>out in the next fifteen years, they found those elements

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<v Speaker 2>that did not only fill those spots, but they had

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<v Speaker 2>properties that Mendeleev predicted they would like. He was like,

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<v Speaker 2>they were like, you did, really good guy. He also

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<v Speaker 2>predicted some other ones that didn't come true, but everybody

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<v Speaker 2>was just like, whatever, it's fine. So that was like

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<v Speaker 2>the model that everybody used from that point on, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's the classic model that we see today, where it's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like a castle with turrets on either side,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know the brick in the middle, and then

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<v Speaker 2>there's like a couple of rows below that are a

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<v Speaker 2>mote if you squint hard enough. Yeah, that's Mendeleev who

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<v Speaker 2>came up with that whole thing. And the way that

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<v Speaker 2>they're arranged is not by atomic mass but by atomic number.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why if you look, and we should probably say,

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<v Speaker 2>the way you read the periodic table is from left

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<v Speaker 2>to right and top to bottom right. So the whole

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<v Speaker 2>thing starts in the top left with number one hydrogen.

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<v Speaker 2>And the reason it's number one is because it has

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<v Speaker 2>one that's right, it has one proton, chuck, and because

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<v Speaker 2>there's one proton in its stable format, has one electron

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<v Speaker 2>and all that's going to be important in a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, I mean, sure, we go ahead and take

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<v Speaker 1>a break. I feel like that was kind of good

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<v Speaker 1>setup material. Sure, all right, we'll take a break and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be right back with more things to enlighten you

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<v Speaker 1>and numb you. All right, So the modern periodic table,

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<v Speaker 1>I think where was mendelev He had sixty three on

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<v Speaker 1>his first Yeah, sixty three known elements at the time

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<v Speaker 1>on his first stab. The modern periodic table right now

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<v Speaker 1>stands at one hundred and eighteen, and I think they've

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<v Speaker 1>already said they think possibly may be one day it

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<v Speaker 1>may top out at one seventy three. We'll see, we'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's sort of you know, the thinking, the logic.

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<v Speaker 1>But right now we're at one hundred and eighteen elements

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<v Speaker 1>that we know about. It includes on the chart the

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<v Speaker 1>name of the element. They're usually a one or two

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<v Speaker 1>letter symbol, which is almost always short for the name.

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<v Speaker 1>But in a case of gold, like when you see

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<v Speaker 1>au for gold and you're like, what the heck is

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<v Speaker 1>that all about? That just means it's based on the

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<v Speaker 1>original Latin for gold rum. And they are placed, like

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<v Speaker 1>you said before, the break, in order of their atomic number,

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<v Speaker 1>which represents the protons in each atom, and that is

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<v Speaker 1>what makes that each element unique. Over those seven rows

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<v Speaker 1>aka periods, and eighteen numbered columns aka groups.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so the rows across horizontally, those are the periods

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<v Speaker 2>and Like you said, it's really important to remember. If

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<v Speaker 2>you take a proton and add it to an element,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have like a variation on the element. You

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<v Speaker 2>have an entirely new element. Everything else you can mess

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<v Speaker 2>around with fudge, mess with the neutrons, mess with the electrons.

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<v Speaker 2>If you add a proton or take away proton, you

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<v Speaker 2>got a totally different element, which is why you can

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<v Speaker 2>order them by their atomic number number one with hydrogen

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<v Speaker 2>number two, helium which has two protons, and so on

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<v Speaker 2>and so forth. When you see that little number in

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<v Speaker 2>the top left of the square for that element, that's

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<v Speaker 2>how many protons it has. But again, as we'll see,

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<v Speaker 2>if we're talking about on the periodic table, stable atoms,

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<v Speaker 2>that means that they don't have an electric charge. They're neutral,

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<v Speaker 2>and that means that they have an even number of

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<v Speaker 2>protons and electrons. Protons are positively charged, electrons are negatively charged,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you have one in one, they cancel each

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<v Speaker 2>other off, two and two they cancel each other off,

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<v Speaker 2>or at the very least they make the electric charge neutral.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So if you're looking, if you've brought up

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<v Speaker 1>a picture by now of the periodic table, because you

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<v Speaker 1>really want to follow along.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a good evolve.

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<v Speaker 1>God bless you for doing such a thing. And secondly

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<v Speaker 1>you might say, well, wait a minute, chuck, what are

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<v Speaker 1>those what's that thing underneath everything? We will get to

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<v Speaker 1>this in a minute. But those fourteen short columns underneath

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<v Speaker 1>is called the F block, and those are the seventh

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<v Speaker 1>and eighth periods aka rows that are detached and those

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<v Speaker 1>are unnumbered rows, whereas the other rows are numbered through eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>So put a pin in the F block all elements

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<v Speaker 1>within a period, and again that is the row. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking horizontal, all the elements on each row have

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<v Speaker 1>the same number of electron shells. And when you think

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<v Speaker 1>about that in your mind's eye, you're probably picturing how

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<v Speaker 1>we think of that in our mind's eye because of

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<v Speaker 1>chemistry class and science class, which is, you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>circle around in atom's nucleus that holds electrons.

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<v Speaker 2>Right like in orbit. That's Neil's Boor's contribution, although he

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<v Speaker 2>made plenty of contributions, but the whole idea that we

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<v Speaker 2>have of the atom being consisting of like a nucleus

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<v Speaker 2>that's kind of like the sun and electrons orbit orbiting

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<v Speaker 2>around it like planets. That's thanks to Neil's bore and

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<v Speaker 2>the actual orbit. Let's say you have just one circle

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<v Speaker 2>around the nucleus. That's a shell. It's one shell, at

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<v Speaker 2>another one that's the second shell, at another one that's

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<v Speaker 2>the third shell, and they actually fill up in order.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you follow along across the rows, the horizontal

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<v Speaker 2>rows called periods on the periodic table, all of those

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<v Speaker 2>in that row have the same number of shells one shell,

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<v Speaker 2>and the second shell, and the third shell and the

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<v Speaker 2>fourth shell. And as you go down, each row has

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<v Speaker 2>the all the shells that the ones above it had,

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<v Speaker 2>and now they've added another shell because their other shells

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<v Speaker 2>are full of electrons.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So if you look at periodic table, get out

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<v Speaker 1>your little picture and you look at that first row

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<v Speaker 1>or period, that means it just has one shell capable

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<v Speaker 1>of holding up to two electrons, and so that's why

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<v Speaker 1>there are only two elements there. Hydrogen usually has one

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<v Speaker 1>electron and helium, which normally has two. And then you

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<v Speaker 1>go down from there, the second and third shells can

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<v Speaker 1>hold up to eight electrons. So those second and third

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<v Speaker 1>rows are each going to have eight elements, and so on.

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<v Speaker 1>For the fourth and fifth it's eighteen. The sixth and

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<v Speaker 1>seventh hold thirty two, and so there are thirty two

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<v Speaker 1>elements on the six and seventh rows.

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<v Speaker 2>Just to demonstrate a little further, so helium has two

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<v Speaker 2>electrons in that one shell. Helium's full. The first element

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<v Speaker 2>on the next row that has a second shell, that's lithium.

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<v Speaker 2>Lithium has two electrons in its first shell that's full,

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<v Speaker 2>but it has an extra electron. So now it's added

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<v Speaker 2>another shell the second shelf to how's that first electron?

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<v Speaker 2>And you go all the way down to the very

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<v Speaker 2>end of that row that lithium starts, and you find neon.

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<v Speaker 2>Neon has ten. Its first shell of two is full

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<v Speaker 2>of electrons. It's second shell they can hold up to

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<v Speaker 2>eight is full, so it has ten total electrons. This

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<v Speaker 2>is what the periods are showing us the number of shells,

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<v Speaker 2>and then eventually in a second will know the number

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<v Speaker 2>of electrons that can fill those shells.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, And the periods of the rose. We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to say that a thousand times. Groups are columns, periods

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<v Speaker 1>are rows. Because if there's one takeaway from this whole thing,

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<v Speaker 1>you can at least look smart. And when you walk

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<v Speaker 1>into a room with a periodic table chart and say

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<v Speaker 1>and someone says, what are those rows and columns? And

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<v Speaker 1>you can say, do you mean groups and periods?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? And then really quickly after that, look at you're

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<v Speaker 2>watching and be like, look at the time. I'm late,

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<v Speaker 2>and run out of the room so that there's no

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<v Speaker 2>follow up questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and make a U shaped hole in the wall,

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<v Speaker 1>not the letter you, but a YOU shaped Yeah. Nice,

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<v Speaker 1>did that come through?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure it did once you spell it.

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<v Speaker 1>The groups are what we're going to talk about next,

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<v Speaker 1>and those are the columns. And this is where Mendelev

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<v Speaker 1>realized these patterns were coming into play. And once you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sub atomic theory came about and we started being able

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<v Speaker 1>to drill down further and further, we started to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to get way more specific. Yeah. So these patterns

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<v Speaker 1>in these rhythms on the columns are based on the

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<v Speaker 1>number of valence electrons for each element, which means how

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<v Speaker 1>many electrons you would normally find in that outermost shell.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And the outermost shell is important, Chuck, because that's

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<v Speaker 2>where all the action happens. That's when atoms bond together

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<v Speaker 2>to make new molecules. That's where the attraction or repulsion

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<v Speaker 2>happens like that is the that's the active shell. All

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<v Speaker 2>the other shells are full. And when a shell is full,

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<v Speaker 2>it's basically content. It just wants to sit there. It

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<v Speaker 2>wants to be left alone. But if that outermost shell

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<v Speaker 2>isn't full, then it's ready for some action. It's got

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<v Speaker 2>its leather jacket on, it's got its dice in its pocket,

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<v Speaker 2>may be a switchblade, and it's looking for trouble. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so more than more than I think even rows, Like

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<v Speaker 2>all of the elements that are in a row, remember

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<v Speaker 2>horizontal across a period. They're related because they all have

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<v Speaker 2>the same shell, the same number of shells one, two, three, four,

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<v Speaker 2>and so on the groups up and down the columns.

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<v Speaker 2>They're more related really because they have the same number

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<v Speaker 2>of electrons in the outermost shell. They can have a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of different numbers of shells, like for example, I

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<v Speaker 2>think floorine can have five shells but only one electron

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<v Speaker 2>in that that outermost shell, and or it could have

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<v Speaker 2>one shell and just have one electron in that outermost shell,

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<v Speaker 2>like a hydrogen. And they're more related because they'll they'll

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<v Speaker 2>react to other things more than they would if they

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<v Speaker 2>had different numbers of electrons.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we can add something to something you should remember

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<v Speaker 1>because this will make you look even one step smarter

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<v Speaker 1>before you run out of the room through the wall,

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<v Speaker 1>just say, oh, yeah, you know, it's organized into periods

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<v Speaker 1>and groups, and the periods of the rows and the

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<v Speaker 1>groups of the columns in if you ask me the

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<v Speaker 1>columns aka groups, that's really where it's at.

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<v Speaker 2>They're more related, they're.

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<v Speaker 1>More related, and then you run through the wall.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So let me give you an example here.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, this is if you want to really,

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<v Speaker 1>really really be smart, you remember.

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<v Speaker 2>This, right, if you have your periodic table out really honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>it will make this whole thing so much easier. But

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<v Speaker 2>if you look all the way down to the second

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<v Speaker 2>group from the right that starts with florine. Yeah, if

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<v Speaker 2>you look at floorine that has I think nine electrons

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<v Speaker 2>and it's in period two, so we know that it

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<v Speaker 2>has two shells. So we know that it has two

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<v Speaker 2>electrons in its first shell, so it must have seven

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<v Speaker 2>electrons in its extra shell or a second shell. And

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<v Speaker 2>since we know that the second shell can hold eight,

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<v Speaker 2>there's one little irritating gap and it wants to fill it.

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<v Speaker 2>So fluorine is super duper reactive. On the other hand,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got things like potassium. It has only one electron

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<v Speaker 2>and it's our most shell, and it wants to actually

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<v Speaker 2>get rid of that electron because I think I said earlier,

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<v Speaker 2>when a shell is full, the atom is content and happy.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't want to do anything with anybody. If it

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<v Speaker 2>just has one left over, like one hole or one electron,

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<v Speaker 2>it either wants to get rid of that one electron

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<v Speaker 2>so that it can lose that shell and go down

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<v Speaker 2>to the next shell which is full, or it can

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<v Speaker 2>fill its shell like fluorine wants to with an extra electron.

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<v Speaker 2>Either way, they're super reactive, and it all happens in

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<v Speaker 2>the outermost shell, the valance shell, and that's why that's

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<v Speaker 2>where all that action happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you know what something we haven't even said

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<v Speaker 1>that I think is important that dawned on me. What

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<v Speaker 1>is the periodic table. Isn't just a like, let's just

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<v Speaker 1>do this thing so we can group them together a

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<v Speaker 1>periodic table. The periodic table is made organize this way

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<v Speaker 1>so chemist and people that really know what they're doing

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<v Speaker 1>can look at a poster on a wall at any

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<v Speaker 1>of those squares and know Because of where it is

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<v Speaker 1>on the row, where it is on the column, what

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<v Speaker 1>color it is, and what block it is, and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>get to those things in a minute. And they can

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<v Speaker 1>know a lot of very specific things just because of

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<v Speaker 1>where it sits and what it looks like and what

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<v Speaker 1>color it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they can tell you whether it's going to blow

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<v Speaker 2>up in water, like exactly like I guess apparently sodium

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<v Speaker 2>pure sodium does. They can tell you if it's shiny.

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<v Speaker 2>There's all of this has to do just almost entirely

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<v Speaker 2>with the number of electrons it has in its outermost shell.

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<v Speaker 1>All that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the evolution of the periodic table. People notice properties,

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<v Speaker 2>physical properties, They noticed appearance, stuff like that, and then

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<v Speaker 2>as they learned more and more about the atom, they

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<v Speaker 2>figured out why in the atom those properties existed. They

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<v Speaker 2>were able to classify those things together in the periodic table. So,

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<v Speaker 2>like you said, a chemist today can look at that

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<v Speaker 2>and be like, oh, that's going to be a shiny

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<v Speaker 2>metal that will explode in your hand if you look

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<v Speaker 2>at it wrong, because it's in this group of elements, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And I saw it described by a chemist really well,

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<v Speaker 2>if you like, to a chemist, a periodic table looks

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<v Speaker 2>like a map to us. Like if you look at

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<v Speaker 2>a map of the United States, you know that if

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<v Speaker 2>you are looking at someplace in the north, it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be colder there than somewhere in the south. You

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<v Speaker 2>don't know exactly what the temperature is or anything like

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<v Speaker 2>that necessarily, but you know, generally based on this map,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a map to the elements.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it also might you know, you might think

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<v Speaker 1>if you're looking at a map of the South, like

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<v Speaker 1>that's where people are more like this and in the

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<v Speaker 1>Midwest people maybe you know, it tells you. A map

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<v Speaker 1>tells you a lot more than just like what the

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<v Speaker 1>weather's like. Yeah, just like a periodic table. So if

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<v Speaker 1>a scientist, if a chemist looks at silicon, I look

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<v Speaker 1>at it and I see a capital S lowercase I,

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<v Speaker 1>the word silicon, the number fourteen in the left hand corner,

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<v Speaker 1>and that it's yellow. A chemist looks at it and says, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I see it's in between on the row aluminum and phosphorus,

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<v Speaker 1>and in the column it's below carbon and above germanium.

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<v Speaker 1>And I see it's numbers fourteen and it's yellow, which

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<v Speaker 1>means it's a metaloid. So I can tell you like

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<v Speaker 1>these twelve things about silicon just because of where it

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<v Speaker 1>sits on that map. Yes, it's pretty amazing. I just

0:25:33.200 --> 0:25:34.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't get it, but it's amazing, right.

0:25:35.000 --> 0:25:37.119
<v Speaker 2>I was just going to say, we're not going to

0:25:37.240 --> 0:25:39.560
<v Speaker 2>explain what those fourteen things are because now there are

0:25:39.600 --> 0:25:42.240
<v Speaker 2>the kind of things you have to go to graduate

0:25:42.359 --> 0:25:45.760
<v Speaker 2>school in chemistry to truly understand. It's okay that we

0:25:45.840 --> 0:25:48.040
<v Speaker 2>don't understand it. All you have to take away from

0:25:48.040 --> 0:25:49.680
<v Speaker 2>this and all we're trying to get across, is that

0:25:50.160 --> 0:25:53.359
<v Speaker 2>trained chemists can look at the periodic table and realize

0:25:53.400 --> 0:25:56.840
<v Speaker 2>a lot about whatever element they're looking at and figure

0:25:56.840 --> 0:25:58.719
<v Speaker 2>out how to mix it with other elements to do

0:25:59.600 --> 0:26:02.280
<v Speaker 2>amazing things. Or if you put together these two things,

0:26:02.680 --> 0:26:05.280
<v Speaker 2>this is probably the reaction that you're going to have.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's also for someone like us. It can

0:26:08.600 --> 0:26:12.520
<v Speaker 1>get really confusing because when you look at different periodic tables,

0:26:12.520 --> 0:26:15.760
<v Speaker 1>one thing you'll notice is that the colors may be different,

0:26:16.320 --> 0:26:19.840
<v Speaker 1>like that there is no unless I'm wrong, there isn't

0:26:19.840 --> 0:26:22.600
<v Speaker 1>one completely settled. This is the only way to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Periodic table. Oh no, as far as a lot of

0:26:26.080 --> 0:26:28.960
<v Speaker 1>it goes. But like you know, depending on who you

0:26:29.040 --> 0:26:31.160
<v Speaker 1>are and how you want to organize a periodic table

0:26:31.200 --> 0:26:34.320
<v Speaker 1>that you use. Those colors may mean different things, so

0:26:34.359 --> 0:26:37.480
<v Speaker 1>it can get really really confusing. Oh yeah when it

0:26:37.480 --> 0:26:38.680
<v Speaker 1>comes to that stuff.

0:26:38.400 --> 0:26:41.560
<v Speaker 2>For sure. And usually there is like a key or

0:26:41.560 --> 0:26:44.800
<v Speaker 2>a legend on the periodic table that says, this is

0:26:44.840 --> 0:26:47.840
<v Speaker 2>what these colors mean. But if you take away the colors,

0:26:47.920 --> 0:26:51.520
<v Speaker 2>the layout of them across and down, if you look

0:26:51.520 --> 0:26:53.800
<v Speaker 2>at a periodic table, that's generally going to be the

0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:57.399
<v Speaker 2>same for any periodic table that looks even roughly like

0:26:57.440 --> 0:26:59.679
<v Speaker 2>what you're looking at. It's the colors that really kind

0:26:59.720 --> 0:27:02.640
<v Speaker 2>of change things up. But more and more, as we've

0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:06.000
<v Speaker 2>learned more about the atom, starting in the early twentieth

0:27:06.080 --> 0:27:09.880
<v Speaker 2>century onward, and quantum mechanics kind of became a thing

0:27:10.400 --> 0:27:13.719
<v Speaker 2>that got incorporated into the periodic table as well, And

0:27:13.800 --> 0:27:17.680
<v Speaker 2>that is where we get to essentially the third way

0:27:17.720 --> 0:27:23.720
<v Speaker 2>that the whole thing's organized, which is by blocks, subshells, S, P, D,

0:27:24.280 --> 0:27:33.040
<v Speaker 2>and F and so the number the number of shells

0:27:33.640 --> 0:27:37.840
<v Speaker 2>that an element has that's its period across, the number

0:27:37.920 --> 0:27:42.439
<v Speaker 2>of electrons in its outermost shell that's its group. The

0:27:42.560 --> 0:27:48.520
<v Speaker 2>blocks describe where the outer most electron is, and if

0:27:48.520 --> 0:27:50.240
<v Speaker 2>you'll allow me for a second to just kind of

0:27:50.280 --> 0:27:54.200
<v Speaker 2>take a little divergence here. It helps under it helps

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<v Speaker 2>you understand it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, please, can we talk about baseball?

0:27:57.760 --> 0:28:01.119
<v Speaker 2>No, not that kind of divergence, like deeper into chemistry

0:28:01.200 --> 0:28:02.160
<v Speaker 2>kind of divergence.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm gonna go out and think about baseball.

0:28:04.800 --> 0:28:10.840
<v Speaker 2>Okay. So, so that whole model that Nils Bor gave

0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:14.639
<v Speaker 2>us of, like the planetoid nucleus and or the sun

0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:18.359
<v Speaker 2>like nucleus and the planetoid electron orbiting it, that is

0:28:19.560 --> 0:28:22.360
<v Speaker 2>really off. That's not at all what they're like. It's

0:28:22.520 --> 0:28:24.639
<v Speaker 2>good for people who don't really care about this kind

0:28:24.720 --> 0:28:27.760
<v Speaker 2>of thing to walk around thinking, but when you actually

0:28:27.760 --> 0:28:30.760
<v Speaker 2>start to try to understand the periodic table, it really

0:28:30.800 --> 0:28:32.800
<v Speaker 2>gets in the way. So if you can kind of

0:28:32.840 --> 0:28:37.280
<v Speaker 2>throw that out and instead think of electrons as not

0:28:37.440 --> 0:28:42.600
<v Speaker 2>particles like planetoids, they're actually waves of energy, right, and

0:28:43.000 --> 0:28:47.720
<v Speaker 2>they like to orbit atoms because their negative electrical charge

0:28:47.800 --> 0:28:50.920
<v Speaker 2>is attracted to the positive electrical charge of the protons.

0:28:51.360 --> 0:28:55.880
<v Speaker 2>That's why they're orbiting or flying around that nucleus. But

0:28:55.920 --> 0:28:58.680
<v Speaker 2>they don't do it in like these tight little orbits

0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:02.680
<v Speaker 2>like a planet does around like the Sun. Instead, they

0:29:03.240 --> 0:29:08.520
<v Speaker 2>inhabit three dimensional areas that follow predictable shapes. Depending on

0:29:08.960 --> 0:29:13.160
<v Speaker 2>the energy level of that electron. You can say what

0:29:13.560 --> 0:29:17.440
<v Speaker 2>shape it's going to follow around that nucleus, but you

0:29:17.520 --> 0:29:20.160
<v Speaker 2>can't say where it is at any given point in time,

0:29:20.520 --> 0:29:25.080
<v Speaker 2>thanks to our friend Heisenberg's uncertainty principle. Heisenberg said, you

0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:30.080
<v Speaker 2>can know the velocity of an object, or you can

0:29:30.080 --> 0:29:33.440
<v Speaker 2>know the location of a quantum object. You can't know both.

0:29:34.040 --> 0:29:37.240
<v Speaker 2>And because we know the energy of an object, we

0:29:37.240 --> 0:29:40.920
<v Speaker 2>can figure out its velocity at speed like an electron,

0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:43.760
<v Speaker 2>which means we can't know where it is. So these

0:29:43.920 --> 0:29:48.440
<v Speaker 2>orbits actually are where they may be ninety percent of

0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:52.440
<v Speaker 2>the time. That's what an actual electron orbit is. And

0:29:52.480 --> 0:29:56.080
<v Speaker 2>again it follows is weird, cool looking little three dimensional

0:29:56.360 --> 0:30:00.240
<v Speaker 2>four leaf clover shapes just really neat and depending on

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:02.680
<v Speaker 2>on the energy of the electron, it's going to inhabit

0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:07.800
<v Speaker 2>a specific place ninety percent of the time around the

0:30:08.280 --> 0:30:11.600
<v Speaker 2>nucleus of that atom, either close to the atom further

0:30:11.680 --> 0:30:14.440
<v Speaker 2>out further out, depending on the shell that it's associated with.

0:30:15.200 --> 0:30:19.680
<v Speaker 2>And the block is where the highest energy the outermost

0:30:19.920 --> 0:30:24.160
<v Speaker 2>electron is in that position. And again it's denoted by

0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:28.560
<v Speaker 2>SPD and F and it gets way more arcane than that.

0:30:28.920 --> 0:30:31.520
<v Speaker 2>But all you have to remember is that when you're

0:30:31.520 --> 0:30:35.720
<v Speaker 2>looking at blocks, they're talking about the specific location of

0:30:35.760 --> 0:30:40.400
<v Speaker 2>the most energetic electron. And again, since the outermost electrons

0:30:40.400 --> 0:30:43.520
<v Speaker 2>are where all the action happens, the most energetic of

0:30:43.600 --> 0:30:47.840
<v Speaker 2>the outermost electrons are really where the action happens. And

0:30:48.160 --> 0:30:53.240
<v Speaker 2>that's why it's become a little more sophisticated, a little

0:30:53.280 --> 0:30:56.280
<v Speaker 2>more refined over time, thanks to the addition of quantum

0:30:56.360 --> 0:31:01.120
<v Speaker 2>mechanics in our understanding of the atom. Are you there, Chuck?

0:31:01.160 --> 0:31:02.880
<v Speaker 2>Did you outside?

0:31:03.160 --> 0:31:05.760
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, I just came back in. I didn't actually think

0:31:05.760 --> 0:31:08.040
<v Speaker 1>about baseball. I was just kidding. I watched an entire

0:31:08.080 --> 0:31:08.640
<v Speaker 1>baseball game.

0:31:08.720 --> 0:31:09.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh, who won?

0:31:11.560 --> 0:31:15.360
<v Speaker 1>I have no joke. My brain is too mushy for

0:31:15.400 --> 0:31:18.800
<v Speaker 1>a joke right now. No, I actually listened to that

0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:20.040
<v Speaker 1>and I learned from you.

0:31:20.120 --> 0:31:22.680
<v Speaker 2>So oh. I appreciate that. Thank you, because I felt

0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:26.200
<v Speaker 2>like I was hanging from a trapeze by my fingernails.

0:31:26.440 --> 0:31:28.600
<v Speaker 1>Well, I was underneath you with a net. That's all

0:31:28.640 --> 0:31:29.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm good for.

0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:31.480
<v Speaker 2>It, Thanks, buddy, I appreciate it. And by the way,

0:31:31.600 --> 0:31:33.920
<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to just walk past. That's all you're

0:31:33.960 --> 0:31:37.240
<v Speaker 2>good for. I just couldn't even bring myself to recognize

0:31:37.280 --> 0:31:39.520
<v Speaker 2>such a dumb thing that was said.

0:31:39.760 --> 0:31:42.880
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that. So the final thing we got to

0:31:42.880 --> 0:31:44.479
<v Speaker 1>talk about is kind of brings it back to the

0:31:44.480 --> 0:31:47.960
<v Speaker 1>beginning of how they originally just started to think about

0:31:47.960 --> 0:31:51.040
<v Speaker 1>grouping things, which was by their atomic mass. That the

0:31:51.160 --> 0:31:53.600
<v Speaker 1>sort of very basic thing that they first thought they

0:31:53.640 --> 0:31:57.200
<v Speaker 1>could use as a grouping device. And they still will

0:31:57.200 --> 0:32:00.600
<v Speaker 1>indicate the atomic mass on most periodic tables, but the

0:32:00.640 --> 0:32:05.360
<v Speaker 1>atomic mass is actually a weighted average of the amount

0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:09.320
<v Speaker 1>of protons plus neutrons, But it depends on how abundant

0:32:09.360 --> 0:32:12.120
<v Speaker 1>different isotopes in that element are out in nature, and

0:32:12.160 --> 0:32:15.480
<v Speaker 1>it's not always the same. So carbon is a great

0:32:15.520 --> 0:32:19.200
<v Speaker 1>example that Livia used. It always has six protons, usually

0:32:19.280 --> 0:32:22.640
<v Speaker 1>has six neutrons, but sometimes can have seven or eight.

0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:25.720
<v Speaker 1>So instead of having an atomic mass of just twelve

0:32:26.120 --> 0:32:29.520
<v Speaker 1>six plus six, they take a weighted average and it

0:32:29.520 --> 0:32:32.640
<v Speaker 1>weighs out to twelve point zero one point one. So

0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:35.720
<v Speaker 1>if you see those numbers with a decimal point, you

0:32:35.760 --> 0:32:38.880
<v Speaker 1>can understand that that's because it's a weighted average and

0:32:38.920 --> 0:32:40.240
<v Speaker 1>not just a locked in number.

0:32:40.440 --> 0:32:42.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it doesn't necessarily have much to do with

0:32:43.000 --> 0:32:45.640
<v Speaker 2>the periodic table. But you've mentioned isotopes, and all those

0:32:45.680 --> 0:32:49.400
<v Speaker 2>are as an element with more or less electrons than

0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:52.239
<v Speaker 2>it has when it's stable in a neutral charge. If

0:32:52.280 --> 0:32:55.280
<v Speaker 2>you take away an electron, it has more positively charged

0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:58.720
<v Speaker 2>protons and electrons, so that's a positive iyon. If you

0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:02.680
<v Speaker 2>add an electron, like say fluorine wants to do, it

0:33:02.800 --> 0:33:06.480
<v Speaker 2>becomes a it has more electrons than protons, so it

0:33:06.520 --> 0:33:11.600
<v Speaker 2>becomes a negatively charged isotope. So those are possible too.

0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:14.480
<v Speaker 2>But just bear in mind you're not changing the number

0:33:14.480 --> 0:33:16.960
<v Speaker 2>of protons, because if you do that you have a

0:33:17.000 --> 0:33:19.600
<v Speaker 2>new element. You're just changing the number of electrons, either

0:33:19.640 --> 0:33:21.840
<v Speaker 2>adding or taking away. And one of the other things

0:33:21.880 --> 0:33:24.360
<v Speaker 2>about the periodic table is you can point to different

0:33:24.560 --> 0:33:27.160
<v Speaker 2>different sections and be like, those are the ones that

0:33:27.200 --> 0:33:31.440
<v Speaker 2>form positive ions because they give away their extra electron.

0:33:31.720 --> 0:33:34.200
<v Speaker 2>Those are the ones that form negative ions because they

0:33:34.240 --> 0:33:37.600
<v Speaker 2>attract extra electrons that they normally have in their neutrally

0:33:37.720 --> 0:33:40.440
<v Speaker 2>charged state. That's another thing that you can just point

0:33:40.440 --> 0:33:41.720
<v Speaker 2>to at the periodic table.

0:33:42.880 --> 0:33:44.360
<v Speaker 1>Pretty amazing, it is.

0:33:45.040 --> 0:33:46.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the fact that people have figured this out

0:33:46.880 --> 0:33:49.560
<v Speaker 2>is just hats off to all of the scientificals that

0:33:49.600 --> 0:33:51.320
<v Speaker 2>were involved in this. Over the years.

0:33:51.840 --> 0:33:55.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I say, we take a break, sure, and when

0:33:55.160 --> 0:33:56.760
<v Speaker 1>we come back, we're going to tell you about how

0:33:56.800 --> 0:33:59.600
<v Speaker 1>things got very interesting in terms of the periodic table.

0:33:59.640 --> 0:34:01.280
<v Speaker 1>And then I jeen thirties right after this.

0:34:26.600 --> 0:34:29.120
<v Speaker 2>Chuck, I feel like we made it through the hardest part.

0:34:29.120 --> 0:34:31.120
<v Speaker 2>We're out of the out of the woods.

0:34:31.760 --> 0:34:35.840
<v Speaker 1>As I'm shaking a little less, I am too, but

0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:38.920
<v Speaker 1>I won't fully relax for another fifteen.

0:34:38.880 --> 0:34:41.920
<v Speaker 2>Just hang in, hang in there, We'll get it all right.

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:43.719
<v Speaker 1>So what happened in the nineteen thirties.

0:34:44.040 --> 0:34:46.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh, well, a guy named doctor Lawrence I can't remember,

0:34:46.680 --> 0:34:49.960
<v Speaker 2>but he the Lawrence Livermore Laboratories named after him, in

0:34:50.040 --> 0:34:55.000
<v Speaker 2>part invented particle accelerators, where you use incredible amounts of

0:34:55.120 --> 0:35:00.400
<v Speaker 2>energy to throw trillions of particles of different weights or

0:35:00.440 --> 0:35:05.759
<v Speaker 2>specific weights at a target atom. Tell them what Einstein how?

0:35:05.800 --> 0:35:08.480
<v Speaker 2>Einstein described this process.

0:35:08.800 --> 0:35:11.319
<v Speaker 1>Like shooting birds in the dark in a country where

0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:13.320
<v Speaker 1>there are only a few birds.

0:35:13.040 --> 0:35:16.280
<v Speaker 2>Right, Like, the chances of you actually having a collision

0:35:16.320 --> 0:35:21.000
<v Speaker 2>are so remote that you like, they're almost indescribable mathematically.

0:35:21.320 --> 0:35:24.840
<v Speaker 2>But if you shoot trillions of particles, you really increase

0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:27.319
<v Speaker 2>your chances of there being some kind of collision and

0:35:27.360 --> 0:35:31.400
<v Speaker 2>when you collide a one particle one atom with another

0:35:31.440 --> 0:35:34.680
<v Speaker 2>atom with enough energy, they can combine. And when you

0:35:34.719 --> 0:35:37.800
<v Speaker 2>add proton to proton, remember, you get a new element.

0:35:38.280 --> 0:35:41.040
<v Speaker 2>And so with particle accelerators they were able to start

0:35:41.280 --> 0:35:44.560
<v Speaker 2>creating elements that you can't find in nature. And then

0:35:44.560 --> 0:35:46.040
<v Speaker 2>you started doing this all the way back in the

0:35:46.080 --> 0:35:49.520
<v Speaker 2>nineteen thirties, and this research is what actually directly led

0:35:49.840 --> 0:35:55.399
<v Speaker 2>to nuclear bomb. Apparently, when Einstein heard that Lawrence had

0:35:55.440 --> 0:35:58.959
<v Speaker 2>created this particle accelerator, he advised FDR to start working

0:35:59.040 --> 0:36:01.319
<v Speaker 2>on a bomb because it was now a thing, like

0:36:02.600 --> 0:36:06.520
<v Speaker 2>the world had just been prepared scientifically for a bomb

0:36:06.560 --> 0:36:07.439
<v Speaker 2>to exist soon.

0:36:08.320 --> 0:36:12.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so lab created elements, like you said, started being

0:36:12.160 --> 0:36:16.640
<v Speaker 1>a thing in nineteen thirty seven. Anything past uranium on

0:36:16.680 --> 0:36:20.640
<v Speaker 1>the chart you cannot find in nature because it decays

0:36:20.880 --> 0:36:23.759
<v Speaker 1>much too fast to even be around and know it's

0:36:23.760 --> 0:36:27.400
<v Speaker 1>a thing and study. But so anything past uranium as

0:36:27.480 --> 0:36:32.960
<v Speaker 1>LAB created. And in nineteen thirty seven, technetium was the

0:36:33.080 --> 0:36:36.759
<v Speaker 1>very first blank spot to be filled in with a

0:36:36.840 --> 0:36:42.000
<v Speaker 1>LAB created element as number forty three nuclear bombs that

0:36:42.040 --> 0:36:46.399
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned when they started doing the nuclear tests out

0:36:46.400 --> 0:36:49.040
<v Speaker 1>on the Marshall Islands in the fifties, they would send

0:36:49.440 --> 0:36:53.880
<v Speaker 1>planes out into these explosions with filters on them to

0:36:53.920 --> 0:36:58.160
<v Speaker 1>scoop up unusual atoms and discover potentially elements. That is

0:36:58.200 --> 0:37:03.160
<v Speaker 1>how we got element ninety nine named Einsteinium. And I

0:37:03.200 --> 0:37:05.240
<v Speaker 1>guess we should talk a little bit about the naming

0:37:05.600 --> 0:37:09.399
<v Speaker 1>because the IUPAC actually has rules around this. It says

0:37:09.480 --> 0:37:13.400
<v Speaker 1>new elements have to be named, and this is very interesting.

0:37:14.239 --> 0:37:17.840
<v Speaker 1>A mineral, a place or a country, a property, or

0:37:17.880 --> 0:37:23.480
<v Speaker 1>a scientist or a mythological concept, which is fascinating. So

0:37:23.520 --> 0:37:26.319
<v Speaker 1>we have some of the latest elements. I believe in

0:37:26.360 --> 0:37:28.880
<v Speaker 1>twenty sixteen is when we got one thirteen through eighteen.

0:37:29.560 --> 0:37:35.000
<v Speaker 1>We got the element tennessine because it was there were

0:37:35.040 --> 0:37:38.919
<v Speaker 1>institutions in Tennessee that led to the discovery of this

0:37:39.080 --> 0:37:42.160
<v Speaker 1>super heavy element, and so they named it Tennessee and

0:37:42.239 --> 0:37:44.160
<v Speaker 1>most of them sort of follow that naming convention.

0:37:44.280 --> 0:37:48.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Nihonium is named after Nihan, which is the Japanese

0:37:48.800 --> 0:37:53.440
<v Speaker 2>name for Japan. A Muscovian is named after Moscow where

0:37:53.640 --> 0:37:59.080
<v Speaker 2>a lab where that was created in a Ghanissan Oganissan

0:37:59.200 --> 0:38:03.279
<v Speaker 2>Organisan aganison, that's what it is. It's named after a

0:38:03.320 --> 0:38:08.240
<v Speaker 2>guy named Yuri Oganessian who is a Russian essentially element hunter.

0:38:08.600 --> 0:38:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Now he has got tons of funding behind him, has

0:38:13.040 --> 0:38:15.960
<v Speaker 2>set up new particle accelerators with more and more energy,

0:38:16.120 --> 0:38:20.480
<v Speaker 2>and is bashing things together in the search for entirely

0:38:20.640 --> 0:38:24.640
<v Speaker 2>new elements that not only don't exist on Earth, they

0:38:24.680 --> 0:38:27.879
<v Speaker 2>may not exist anywhere else in the universe. They may

0:38:27.920 --> 0:38:33.640
<v Speaker 2>only exist theoretically until Aganessian manages to smash the right

0:38:33.680 --> 0:38:37.520
<v Speaker 2>atoms together to create those elements for a pico second.

0:38:38.120 --> 0:38:41.359
<v Speaker 2>Like they're so unstable that they last almost no time

0:38:41.400 --> 0:38:43.920
<v Speaker 2>at all, which makes them totally useless to us.

0:38:44.400 --> 0:38:45.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, as of now.

0:38:45.719 --> 0:38:48.120
<v Speaker 2>The fact that, like you said, they predicted I think

0:38:48.160 --> 0:38:50.560
<v Speaker 2>it's going to go up to one hundred and seventy three.

0:38:51.040 --> 0:38:54.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and we're at one hundred and what eighteen.

0:38:55.040 --> 0:38:58.799
<v Speaker 2>Makes people like Agnessian just crazy, like they want to

0:38:58.800 --> 0:39:02.680
<v Speaker 2>find them all. Actually found a couple of those most

0:39:02.719 --> 0:39:06.720
<v Speaker 2>recent ones that were inducted, I guess in the periodic

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<v Speaker 2>table in twenty sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and this is kind of cool too. Oganessian apparently

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to name that element stardust in honor of David Bowie,

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<v Speaker 1>but it didn't fit the naming criteria.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, too bad, so sad, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Too bad. So as far as the sort of the

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<v Speaker 1>coda on this, Livia is keen to point out that

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<v Speaker 1>there are gaps in the framework. Still, there are issues.

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<v Speaker 1>When you look at the periodic table, you needn't only

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<v Speaker 1>look at the very first one hydrogen at the far

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<v Speaker 1>left of the table. It's there because it has that

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<v Speaker 1>one electron, but it is not like any of the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of its group, because the rest of them are

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<v Speaker 1>all alkali metals. It's actually more similar to something like chlorine,

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<v Speaker 1>which is in the second column from the right. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's still debate on like it's not settled

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<v Speaker 1>on where things should be placed on these various and

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<v Speaker 1>there have been you know, there are alternative tables that

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<v Speaker 1>people have put out over the years with different tweaks,

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<v Speaker 1>some small, some large, and it's pretty interesting, I think.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's also that two period section that's always removed

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<v Speaker 2>from the rest of the periodic table. It's put down

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<v Speaker 2>below it. Those two sections actually go in that's the

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<v Speaker 2>f block, right, yeah, the bottom two rows, so they

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<v Speaker 2>come after I think, bury them and just go all

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<v Speaker 2>the way over to oh, I can't remember the other one,

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<v Speaker 2>but imagine that the periodic table was looked like it did,

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<v Speaker 2>but then the bottom two rows were about twice as

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<v Speaker 2>long as they are now. It looked weird, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>because you would take that lower F block and put

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<v Speaker 2>it into its proper place if you're arranging these things

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<v Speaker 2>by atomic number. But the reason why the F block

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<v Speaker 2>is pulled out is because those two rows of elements,

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<v Speaker 2>the actin needs and lath the needs. I think they

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<v Speaker 2>might like follow an atomic number in that way, but

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<v Speaker 2>their properties are totally different from their periods or their groups.

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<v Speaker 2>And the reason why is because they're the only two

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<v Speaker 2>groups that have the F position subshell filled by an electron,

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<v Speaker 2>which completely alters their everything. It's just different than all

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<v Speaker 2>of the other ones. And it's different enough that they

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<v Speaker 2>just basically removed it until they can figure out where

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<v Speaker 2>it should sit, because depending on how you interpret where

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<v Speaker 2>like how the periodic table should be laid out, they

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<v Speaker 2>should go here, they should go there, or they should

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<v Speaker 2>just stay out like they are now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there are some and it's kind of fun to

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<v Speaker 1>look some of these up if you want to see

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of cool at the very least just esthetic examples.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they're not just like, oh, this looks cooler.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes sense to the person who has put out

0:42:00.840 --> 0:42:05.280
<v Speaker 1>this whatever alternative or alternate periodic table, Like in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>forty nine, Lvia found one from Life magazine that is

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<v Speaker 1>a spiral, And there are quite a few different spiral

0:42:12.000 --> 0:42:15.680
<v Speaker 1>or spirillic designs where you have hydrogen at the center

0:42:16.280 --> 0:42:21.359
<v Speaker 1>and it's sort of like racetrack shape. If you look

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<v Speaker 1>at any just look up spiral based periodic chart, and

0:42:24.400 --> 0:42:28.000
<v Speaker 1>they're very nice to look at, I imagine they are

0:42:28.120 --> 0:42:30.640
<v Speaker 1>much much harder to sort of make sense of and

0:42:30.680 --> 0:42:35.520
<v Speaker 1>read unless you're the person who made it or a chemist. Yeah,

0:42:35.680 --> 0:42:38.520
<v Speaker 1>chemists would still probably be like, well, why are you

0:42:38.600 --> 0:42:39.319
<v Speaker 1>doing it that way?

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<v Speaker 2>I liked it the other way.

0:42:42.000 --> 0:42:45.120
<v Speaker 1>Or that three D one that Timothy Stowe came up

0:42:45.160 --> 0:42:48.600
<v Speaker 1>with that I think physicists are pretty keen on that

0:42:48.719 --> 0:42:53.320
<v Speaker 1>has three axes of different colors that represent quantum numbers

0:42:53.880 --> 0:42:56.759
<v Speaker 1>that describe the electrons. But it's you know, if you

0:42:56.760 --> 0:42:58.719
<v Speaker 1>look at a three D version, that's kind of cool too.

0:42:59.080 --> 0:43:01.840
<v Speaker 1>But if you find the one, the traditional one confusing

0:43:02.320 --> 0:43:04.840
<v Speaker 1>as a non chemist, just try looking at any of

0:43:04.560 --> 0:43:06.360
<v Speaker 1>these other ones. It's really confusing.

0:43:06.520 --> 0:43:09.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And it's all it is is it's saying, well, actually, no,

0:43:09.680 --> 0:43:12.080
<v Speaker 2>I think we should arrange them so that they're connected

0:43:12.120 --> 0:43:16.160
<v Speaker 2>more by this property like electro negativity, or they're shiny

0:43:16.520 --> 0:43:19.520
<v Speaker 2>where they're pretty. I like this these elements, and so

0:43:19.560 --> 0:43:21.760
<v Speaker 2>we're going to put them together. These are my favorite elements.

0:43:22.000 --> 0:43:23.680
<v Speaker 2>It's just kind of like that, and so you can

0:43:23.719 --> 0:43:25.440
<v Speaker 2>bend them in all sorts of weird shapes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I have my own periodic table I've designed. Oh yeah,

0:43:29.600 --> 0:43:34.120
<v Speaker 1>and it is just a big black block and then

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<v Speaker 1>times new roman and yellow lettering in the middle. It says,

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<v Speaker 1>who gives a right?

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<v Speaker 2>I would have imagined it was a traditional periodic table,

0:43:43.360 --> 0:43:46.080
<v Speaker 2>but scratched out with a pen rights violently.

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<v Speaker 1>No, that's good. I like that better. I'm gonna change mine.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got one other thing that doesn't. It has a

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<v Speaker 2>lot to do with everything, but not anything we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to go into. But there are some especially those elements

0:43:58.200 --> 0:44:00.439
<v Speaker 2>that don't occur in nature and they have to to

0:44:00.480 --> 0:44:04.440
<v Speaker 2>create in particle accelerators, but also some that occur in nature,

0:44:04.520 --> 0:44:08.160
<v Speaker 2>like gold and mercury are two good examples. They have

0:44:08.640 --> 0:44:13.359
<v Speaker 2>electrons that spin so fast, that are moving at such

0:44:13.400 --> 0:44:18.840
<v Speaker 2>incredible energies that they actually are like a significant fraction

0:44:19.000 --> 0:44:21.239
<v Speaker 2>of the speed of light. That's how fast they're going.

0:44:21.840 --> 0:44:25.440
<v Speaker 2>And it doesn't matter whether you're talking about like a

0:44:25.480 --> 0:44:29.360
<v Speaker 2>photon or a planet or a black hole or an electron.

0:44:29.719 --> 0:44:34.520
<v Speaker 2>Anything that has mass and can move at anything like

0:44:34.760 --> 0:44:37.600
<v Speaker 2>half the speed of light is going to actually bend

0:44:37.680 --> 0:44:41.920
<v Speaker 2>time and space. And so for some kinds of elements

0:44:41.920 --> 0:44:46.000
<v Speaker 2>that have relativistic speeds, meaning they're electrons travel close to

0:44:46.040 --> 0:44:48.640
<v Speaker 2>the speed of light, they have all sorts of freaky

0:44:48.680 --> 0:44:52.719
<v Speaker 2>dicky properties. It's why gold is gold. Not going to

0:44:52.719 --> 0:44:55.840
<v Speaker 2>get into that, just trust me. It's why gold is gold.

0:44:56.560 --> 0:44:58.920
<v Speaker 2>But also it means that if you could go into

0:44:59.000 --> 0:45:02.359
<v Speaker 2>those atoms and just kind of exists in them as

0:45:02.360 --> 0:45:05.600
<v Speaker 2>if they were a universe, you would see that time

0:45:05.640 --> 0:45:09.040
<v Speaker 2>and space was bent compared to how time and space

0:45:09.080 --> 0:45:12.919
<v Speaker 2>exists outside of those atoms, like on our level. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what atomic scientists have figured out, and it's actually kind

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<v Speaker 2>of having a mind breaking effect on the periodic table

0:45:20.520 --> 0:45:25.120
<v Speaker 2>to an extent amazing. I think so too. That's it, Chuck,

0:45:25.280 --> 0:45:28.160
<v Speaker 2>we did periodic tables. It's done. You did great.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh boy, we don't have to do it again.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't think so, I hope not. Yeah, what

0:45:34.000 --> 0:45:38.879
<v Speaker 2>is this Murphy's law? Well, since I said Murphy's Law,

0:45:38.880 --> 0:45:41.359
<v Speaker 2>and Chuck laugh because he got the joke. You may

0:45:41.400 --> 0:45:44.000
<v Speaker 2>not have him. That's okay. That means it's time for

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<v Speaker 2>listener now.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I'm gonna call this very quick follow up

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<v Speaker 1>from our Halloween episode. As we record this, it is

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<v Speaker 1>actually Halloween, so that has just come out today, and

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<v Speaker 1>we have something from Owen that perhaps explained something that

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<v Speaker 1>we kind of wondered about. Hey, guys, once again loving

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<v Speaker 1>the Yearly Spectacular. Figured i'd mentioned my take on what

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<v Speaker 1>the Hermit meant. Hermit Hermit meant when he said the

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<v Speaker 1>man's eyes didn't match his mouth. Oh yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it might have something to do with honesty, like the

0:46:16.800 --> 0:46:21.120
<v Speaker 1>words of encouragement were somehow disingenuine. That lined up with

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<v Speaker 1>the idea that the hermit has sort of seen flaws

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<v Speaker 1>and faults. That makes sense to me. I didn't match

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<v Speaker 1>his mouth.

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<v Speaker 2>That's like the best explanation I've heard so far. It's

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<v Speaker 2>also the only explanation, but it's a good one.

0:46:31.760 --> 0:46:34.279
<v Speaker 1>I think it's totally it. And Owen says, regardless of

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<v Speaker 1>whether that's the author's intent, I'm using the description in

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<v Speaker 1>a song i'm writing. So thanks for the inspiration and

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<v Speaker 1>in all honesty, the voice work is on point this year.

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<v Speaker 1>That is from Oen.

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<v Speaker 2>Makes a Lot, Owen, Here's a here's some inspiration for

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<v Speaker 2>the musical part of your song.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh.

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