1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to coast AM on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 2: I noticed one of the common threads when people talk 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 2: about witnessing something, the first thing they say is, I 4 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 2: don't even think about my phone to record it. They're 5 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 2: so stuck in shock of what they're witnessing that the 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 2: documentation of it doesn't even cross their mind until it's 7 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 2: too late. Is that any different for you because you 8 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 2: have a film crew with you, But I'm guessing there's 9 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 2: probably times even you are in awe and you're like, okay, 10 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 2: you got to stamp out of it real quick, and 11 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 2: then your professional job comes into mind, where you have 12 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 2: to document what you're seeing. 13 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we've had enough direct experience with creatures that 14 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 3: we absolutely know are there, and you have to be 15 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 3: on your guard working with polar bears or Asian forest 16 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 3: elephants or crocs, like really really aware all the time, 17 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 3: so you know are and I bring the same crew 18 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 3: with me wherever we go. We're the same crew that 19 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 3: we're filming, you know, two hundred and fifty pound, eighteen 20 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 3: and a half foot anacondas we're now in the South 21 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 3: in Louisiana with a group of men that believe, you know, 22 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 3: Bigfoot is there and it's and we met the people 23 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 3: and they're, you know, I'm making this stuff up, Like 24 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 3: they're they're really scared, like something is going on coming 25 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 3: into their yards, banging into their house, knocking knocking things off, 26 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 3: you know, at midnight or one o'clock. Who would hoak 27 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 3: something like that, right, Like, you'd have to be very 28 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 3: foolish walking onto a rural farm down there in a 29 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 3: hair suit faking things. So there's there's something very odd 30 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 3: going on. And we had one incident with something captured 31 00:01:55,880 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 3: on a GoPro that was really pretty intrigued. 32 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: Right, goat pro you know, I don't know, the goat 33 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 2: pros were really popular there for a while. Everyone's got 34 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,679 Speaker 2: dash cameras now, but in the advent of artificial intelligence, 35 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 2: it's tough what you see online because a lot of 36 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 2: this stuff can be perhaps manufactured through computers. So anymore, 37 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 2: you know, it's important to find someone that's documenting this honestly. 38 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: You're one of the people documenting it honestly. But there's 39 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 2: a lot of things out there that's that's not honest. 40 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 3: Right, Well, I'll tell you so, I'm like you mentioned 41 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 3: in your I'm reading your little bio here. Healthy skepticism 42 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 3: is needed in the world today. So I go into 43 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 3: a lot of these things obviously with healthy skepticism, like 44 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 3: I don't want to get hoaxed or fooled or whatever. Right, 45 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 3: So I've been shooting with the cameras since I was 46 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 3: a kid basically, and in high school I made Super 47 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 3: eight films, and so I'm well aware of all the tricks, 48 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 3: right and AI to me right now, I mean, that's 49 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 3: just so new. It's we're any really only talking the 50 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 3: last year or so that anything credible really has been 51 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 3: available to the average person. So when you're working with 52 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 3: things that you directly capture and you've seen it and 53 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 3: it's still i mean until they start, you know, when 54 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 3: you have camera movement and things like that and focus shifts, 55 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 3: and you know, the AI stuff's often too perfect, right, 56 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 3: or it's there's something quirky about it. So what happened 57 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 3: with us is we were investigating incident down at a 58 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 3: church in the woods in Louisiana, and we didn't really 59 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 3: know much more than there'd been a sighting there. So 60 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 3: we assembled the group, the Gulf Coast big Foot Research Organization. 61 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 3: They're a very cool bunch of guys. They've been doing 62 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 3: this for as long as the BFRO the finding Big 63 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 3: for crew, Except these guys are in the South and 64 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 3: they're really going after a creature that is lighter, faster, meaner. 65 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 3: That's what they believe, and they have enough you know, 66 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 3: accounts to that effect. So that's why, you know, people 67 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 3: are really afraid because there have been these you know, 68 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 3: disturbances in people's yards and pets disappear and you know 69 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 3: actually you know, dogs ripped off their chains and things 70 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 3: that you basically need a truck to do, I mean 71 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 3: with a lot of noise. So something is doing this silently. 72 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 3: So in any case, we're waiting for these eyewitnesses to 73 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 3: show up. And I just talked to a couple of 74 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 3: guys and I say, why don't you just have a 75 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 3: look around in the woods, because these workers who were 76 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 3: working on some repairs of the church, they had seen 77 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 3: this creature and I was it was they described as 78 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 3: being gray or white, whitish in color and kind of 79 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 3: observing them from the forest. So I said, why don't 80 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 3: you guys just go in there? And uh, I know, 81 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 3: like when they're out there, you know, they have a 82 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 3: lot of these guys have GoPros on their heads, right, 83 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 3: so in case are something there, like you can miss 84 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 3: things and I can talk a little bit more about 85 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 3: why saw squetches so hard to see. But in any case, 86 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 3: so these guys go out and I sent a cameraman 87 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 3: with them, and he stay. He stayed close to them. 88 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 3: But you know, when when they got back, one of 89 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 3: them said, you know, it was kind of weird because 90 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 3: when I got out there, it kind of felt like 91 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 3: I heard something and I stopped and there was like 92 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 3: a bit of movement, and then I would start again, 93 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 3: and then that movement would continue. So I said, well, 94 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 3: let's why don't we have a look at your camera. 95 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 3: So once we got the footage, sure enough, there's this 96 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 3: figure that is tall with a conical shaped head that 97 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 3: has stopped behind trees. Every time this guy stopped, this 98 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 3: thing stopped behind a tree, and every time he moved, 99 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 3: you would see it walking. And this to me, like, look, 100 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 3: most people down there are pretty friendly and they walk 101 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 3: up to you and they're going, hey, man, what are 102 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 3: you guys filming or whatever? Like nobody's gonna like randomly 103 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 3: hoax a bigfoot, like just you know, no one really 104 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 3: knew that we were coming at that point and the 105 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 3: eyewitnesses were already there, so it was weird. It was 106 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 3: really weird. And the fact that we caught it so 107 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 3: randomly on this guy's go pro like, it wasn't set up. 108 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 3: We had to go look for it and search for it. 109 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 3: Sure enough, we found it in the footage, and so 110 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 3: this thing that had been cited, something was observing them 111 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 3: and it was very weird and it was yea, yeah, 112 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 3: it was pretty good. 113 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot of weird things in the world 114 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 2: that can't be explained. Something you mentioned there, you said 115 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 2: you had some theories of why it's so difficult to 116 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 2: photograph or find bigfoot on video. What makes it so difficult. 117 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 2: It's not a lack of trying. There's a lot of 118 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 2: people that you know, have eyewitness accounts, they document it. 119 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 2: There's investigations that go on after the documentation. So what 120 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 2: makes it so hard to get the evidence on film? 121 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 3: Okay, so let me tell you so my very first 122 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 3: bigfoot film was it's become a bit of a classic. 123 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 3: It's called Sasquatch Odyssey, the Hunt for Bigfoot, and it's 124 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 3: the only one with the kind of ogs of bigfoot 125 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 3: hunting you know, Peter Burn, John Green, Renada handon doctor 126 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 3: Grover Krantz. And this is the only film that got 127 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 3: all these old guys together in one film. And Peter 128 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 3: Burn goes back to hunting the Yetti in nineteen fifty 129 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 3: six with Tom Slick, a Texas oil man who funded 130 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 3: expeditions all through the fifties and sixties, and you know, 131 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 3: so he hunted. This was the Slick Burns expedition in 132 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 3: fifty six and then the nineteen sixty Sasquatch expedition in 133 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 3: which all these men came together except for Grover Krantz. 134 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 3: And they've all had their own theories and their own 135 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 3: you know, they were there at the Pattison site at 136 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 3: Willow Creek in sixty seven when it happened. So Peter 137 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 3: Burn was a professional tiger guide and hunter. He'd been 138 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 3: in India and he was a tracker, and he wanted 139 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 3: to see Bigfoot on the ground, not in a paranormal state, right. 140 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 3: He really believed that there was a large, hairy homonid 141 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 3: and he was tracking it in the way that you know, 142 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 3: he would track tigers and elephants and rhino and all 143 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 3: the stuff that he dealt with and years later I 144 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 3: was in the Nepalese jungle with him on elephant bat 145 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 3: and we were charged by tigers. But that's another story. 146 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 3: The bottom line is when Peter Burne as a professional 147 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 3: tracker hunting guide, he described to me that a creature 148 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 3: like a bigfoot could simply disappear in the forest simply 149 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 3: by stopping. Because when you go to the Pacific Northwest 150 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 3: and there's all of his moss on the trees and 151 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 3: these hanging branches, and you know the color of the creature, 152 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 3: it would virtually disappear to your eye. And it's sort 153 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 3: of what that thing was doing that showed up on 154 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 3: the GoPro. It's just stopped behind the tree and it's 155 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 3: not visible, right, So you don't need to be an 156 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 3: inter dimensional creature not to be seen. I did his 157 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 3: show on wolverines once, and lots of people have spent 158 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 3: their entire lives in a forest and never seen a wolverine. 159 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 3: It's a mystery creature, and in fact, to get it 160 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 3: we had to I was working with a biologist and 161 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 3: we had to catch them in traps, and this guy 162 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 3: was actually terrified of catching these things because they're so 163 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 3: renowned for being vicious and and there's some stories about that. 164 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 3: They're very formidable. But you know, he told me he'd 165 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 3: seen a wolverine that it took down a thousand pound moose. Wow, 166 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 3: it simply waited till this female moose bedded down for 167 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 3: the night, and it leapt onto its back and it 168 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 3: just started digging until it got to the spine and 169 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 3: then severed the spine and ate the animal. So when 170 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 3: you talk about monsters in the real world, this thing 171 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 3: wasn't way more than fifty pounds, right, But it has 172 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 3: like you know, the wolverine character you know in the 173 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 3: in the X Men, the in the X Men world, 174 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 3: that thing can leap in the air with all four 175 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 3: paws engaged and every pause the size of a large 176 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 3: man's hands with claws on it. 177 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at 178 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 1: one am Eastern and go to Coast to coastam dot 179 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: com for more