1 00:00:04,795 --> 00:00:21,075 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. A 2 00:00:21,275 --> 00:00:24,755 Speaker 1: ton of bricks is about to fall on a conservative 3 00:00:24,955 --> 00:00:29,595 Speaker 1: icon of the Supreme Court, another one. Pro Publica is 4 00:00:29,675 --> 00:00:34,475 Speaker 1: clearly poised to expose that the fascistic Samuel Alito, the 5 00:00:34,475 --> 00:00:37,875 Speaker 1: man who overturned Roe v. Wade and cited a seventeenth 6 00:00:37,875 --> 00:00:42,275 Speaker 1: century which sentencing judge as he did so, has his 7 00:00:42,475 --> 00:00:47,115 Speaker 1: own version of Clarence Thomas's Harlan Crowe. And Alito's Harlan 8 00:00:47,235 --> 00:00:50,835 Speaker 1: Crowe is named Paul Singer, and Paul Singer is a 9 00:00:50,875 --> 00:00:53,275 Speaker 1: billionaire hedge fund manager and one of the funders of 10 00:00:53,315 --> 00:00:57,795 Speaker 1: the fascist website The Washington Free Beacon. And whatever exactly 11 00:00:57,915 --> 00:01:01,555 Speaker 1: it is that Pro Publica has compiled, it is bad 12 00:01:01,635 --> 00:01:04,675 Speaker 1: enough that Alito not only has issued that rarest of denials, 13 00:01:04,875 --> 00:01:07,915 Speaker 1: the preemptive denial, but he has done so in the 14 00:01:07,915 --> 00:01:12,395 Speaker 1: form of a really sloppy, panicky op ed that the 15 00:01:12,435 --> 00:01:15,955 Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal editorial page rushed to publish last night, 16 00:01:16,315 --> 00:01:18,515 Speaker 1: and in so doing, the Journal and Alito pretty much 17 00:01:18,555 --> 00:01:22,555 Speaker 1: confirmed who the Journal's informed sources have been close to 18 00:01:22,595 --> 00:01:25,915 Speaker 1: the court, dating back to even before they speculated that 19 00:01:25,995 --> 00:01:28,955 Speaker 1: John Roberts was trying to talk a few other justices 20 00:01:29,035 --> 00:01:32,475 Speaker 1: down from the Roe v. Wade ledgend into a compromise 21 00:01:33,355 --> 00:01:37,995 Speaker 1: that their informed sources are all named sam Alito, and 22 00:01:38,115 --> 00:01:41,435 Speaker 1: sam Alito has been leaking Supreme Court debates and decisions 23 00:01:41,435 --> 00:01:43,995 Speaker 1: like a sieve and could, at least, in theory, be 24 00:01:44,195 --> 00:01:49,515 Speaker 1: prosecuted for it. For what Alito denies that Pro Publica 25 00:01:49,555 --> 00:01:53,475 Speaker 1: hasn't accused him of yet. It appears Alito accepted at 26 00:01:53,555 --> 00:01:56,435 Speaker 1: least a free flight on a private jet to Alaska 27 00:01:56,675 --> 00:01:59,755 Speaker 1: from this singer, yet did not recuse himself from a 28 00:01:59,795 --> 00:02:02,355 Speaker 1: case before the Court that was worth as much as 29 00:02:02,395 --> 00:02:05,835 Speaker 1: two billion, five hundred million dollars to a company owned 30 00:02:05,835 --> 00:02:08,955 Speaker 1: in part by this singer. Alito says he didn't know 31 00:02:09,075 --> 00:02:12,715 Speaker 1: Singer had anything to do with the company. Even if he did, 32 00:02:12,755 --> 00:02:15,355 Speaker 1: he didn't have to recuse. He didn't know the seat 33 00:02:15,395 --> 00:02:17,875 Speaker 1: on the plane had any value. He wouldn't have had 34 00:02:17,915 --> 00:02:21,035 Speaker 1: to disclose it even if he had to and had known, 35 00:02:21,195 --> 00:02:25,195 Speaker 1: and had to and had known. And if you think 36 00:02:25,235 --> 00:02:28,675 Speaker 1: I'm being gratuitous when I describe Alito's response to this 37 00:02:28,835 --> 00:02:32,715 Speaker 1: in the paper as sloppy and panicky, he refers in 38 00:02:32,755 --> 00:02:34,835 Speaker 1: his first sentence in the Wall Street Journal to a 39 00:02:34,915 --> 00:02:41,795 Speaker 1: quote financial disclose report. This is Alito, who isn't honest, 40 00:02:41,875 --> 00:02:45,435 Speaker 1: isn't democratic, isn't law abiting, but is also fiercely arrogant 41 00:02:45,635 --> 00:02:48,035 Speaker 1: and never panics. And he wrote this thing so fast 42 00:02:48,235 --> 00:02:53,475 Speaker 1: he eluded his own spell check. Alito's opinions and dissents 43 00:02:53,515 --> 00:02:56,595 Speaker 1: sometimes strain logic and credulity, but even he has never 44 00:02:56,635 --> 00:02:59,875 Speaker 1: written anything this laugh out loud funny as an excuse 45 00:02:59,915 --> 00:03:03,315 Speaker 1: for something quote. As for the flight, mister Singer and 46 00:03:03,395 --> 00:03:05,995 Speaker 1: others had already made a rain to fly to Alaska 47 00:03:06,075 --> 00:03:09,315 Speaker 1: when I was invited shortly before the event, and I 48 00:03:09,555 --> 00:03:12,195 Speaker 1: was asked whether I would like to fly there in 49 00:03:12,235 --> 00:03:15,555 Speaker 1: a seat that, as far as I am aware, would 50 00:03:15,555 --> 00:03:19,515 Speaker 1: have otherwise been vacant. It was my understanding that this 51 00:03:19,555 --> 00:03:25,195 Speaker 1: would not impose any extra cost on mister Singer. This 52 00:03:25,355 --> 00:03:27,475 Speaker 1: is exactly the same as going to the airport and 53 00:03:27,555 --> 00:03:30,035 Speaker 1: asking the nice man over at Delta if you can 54 00:03:30,075 --> 00:03:31,835 Speaker 1: have a seat to Paris, and then when it's time 55 00:03:31,835 --> 00:03:33,955 Speaker 1: to pay, you say, I don't have to pay anything. 56 00:03:34,235 --> 00:03:36,635 Speaker 1: The seat would have otherwise been vacant. It was my 57 00:03:36,755 --> 00:03:39,355 Speaker 1: understanding that this would not impose any extra cost on 58 00:03:39,395 --> 00:03:43,555 Speaker 1: mister Delta. And to take the lack of logic one 59 00:03:43,595 --> 00:03:46,555 Speaker 1: step further, if Delta actually then said, ah, yeah, you're right, 60 00:03:46,595 --> 00:03:49,395 Speaker 1: skip it whatever, you then leave the cost of that 61 00:03:49,435 --> 00:03:52,635 Speaker 1: flight off your taxes, because if it had value, why 62 00:03:52,635 --> 00:03:55,715 Speaker 1: did they give it to you for nothing? I mean, 63 00:03:55,795 --> 00:03:59,195 Speaker 1: even for Alito. None of this is really convincing. And 64 00:03:59,275 --> 00:04:01,915 Speaker 1: the I don't know him. I didn't have to know 65 00:04:01,995 --> 00:04:04,395 Speaker 1: that I knew him. I didn't have to disclose it 66 00:04:04,435 --> 00:04:06,755 Speaker 1: in this seat was empty anyway defense is so weak 67 00:04:06,915 --> 00:04:08,835 Speaker 1: that it's about a foot away from saying I ran 68 00:04:08,875 --> 00:04:10,635 Speaker 1: out of gas, I had a flat tire, I didn't 69 00:04:10,635 --> 00:04:12,675 Speaker 1: have enough money for cab fair my tucks didn't come 70 00:04:12,715 --> 00:04:14,395 Speaker 1: back from the cleaners. An old friend came in from 71 00:04:14,435 --> 00:04:16,435 Speaker 1: out of town. Someone stole my car. There was an earthquake, 72 00:04:16,475 --> 00:04:18,315 Speaker 1: a terrible flood, locust. There wasn't my fall. 73 00:04:18,395 --> 00:04:19,475 Speaker 2: I swear I got. 74 00:04:22,195 --> 00:04:26,635 Speaker 1: Owen. Besides the sense that Alito's move let's blow up 75 00:04:26,675 --> 00:04:30,315 Speaker 1: pro Publica before they publish, suggests this is about way 76 00:04:30,355 --> 00:04:34,435 Speaker 1: more than one free ride on what the spare tire 77 00:04:34,635 --> 00:04:37,475 Speaker 1: in the back of the plane, and apart from the 78 00:04:37,475 --> 00:04:40,435 Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal's willingness to print this from Alito, and 79 00:04:40,475 --> 00:04:43,355 Speaker 1: as noted, apparently not even proof read it, And apart 80 00:04:43,355 --> 00:04:46,035 Speaker 1: from the reinforcement of the theory that Alito leaks to 81 00:04:46,115 --> 00:04:50,755 Speaker 1: the journal that's why he sent them this rather than say, 82 00:04:50,835 --> 00:04:56,435 Speaker 1: sending it to oh, pro Publica in a what do 83 00:04:56,435 --> 00:05:00,755 Speaker 1: you call those things? Email? And apart from the fact 84 00:05:01,315 --> 00:05:04,675 Speaker 1: that the former FBI executive Pete Struck wrote last night, 85 00:05:04,795 --> 00:05:08,715 Speaker 1: wait an Alito free private luxury jet trip to Alaska 86 00:05:08,755 --> 00:05:13,675 Speaker 1: with Paul Singer, the same Paul Singer who initially funded 87 00:05:13,755 --> 00:05:18,635 Speaker 1: Fusion GPS's OPO work on Donald Trump World, Sure is 88 00:05:18,715 --> 00:05:24,275 Speaker 1: funny unquote. Besides all that, there's also another irony in here. 89 00:05:25,435 --> 00:05:29,115 Speaker 1: The case that Pro Publica will presumably identify as dirty 90 00:05:29,275 --> 00:05:34,075 Speaker 1: was a suit involving NML Capital and others against the 91 00:05:34,075 --> 00:05:38,755 Speaker 1: government of Argentina. In two thousand and one. Argentina defaulted 92 00:05:38,755 --> 00:05:42,515 Speaker 1: on ninety five billion dollars worth in bonds and offered 93 00:05:42,555 --> 00:05:47,835 Speaker 1: creditors thirty three cents on the dollar. NML Capital refused 94 00:05:47,875 --> 00:05:50,035 Speaker 1: and sued, and up it went to the Supreme Court, 95 00:05:50,195 --> 00:05:53,035 Speaker 1: and nine years ago this month, Scotis voted seven to 96 00:05:53,035 --> 00:05:56,475 Speaker 1: one in favor of NML Capital and the others. And 97 00:05:56,515 --> 00:06:00,195 Speaker 1: guess what that dissent, the one that wasn't Alito and 98 00:06:00,275 --> 00:06:04,275 Speaker 1: there's a newspaper column which shows Paul Singer's involvement in 99 00:06:04,315 --> 00:06:07,555 Speaker 1: the case before the court, and it's not exactly subtle. 100 00:06:07,755 --> 00:06:12,755 Speaker 1: The case included quote a subsidiary of Paul Singer's Elliott 101 00:06:12,795 --> 00:06:16,915 Speaker 1: Management called NML Capitol, which is owed some two point 102 00:06:16,995 --> 00:06:20,355 Speaker 1: five billion in principle and back interest unquote. And that 103 00:06:20,435 --> 00:06:26,515 Speaker 1: newspaper piece was published on the Wall Street Journal editorial page. 104 00:06:27,755 --> 00:06:29,955 Speaker 1: And sam Alito might be able to get away with 105 00:06:29,995 --> 00:06:32,675 Speaker 1: a lot of denials in his life, but not one 106 00:06:32,995 --> 00:06:36,275 Speaker 1: person is ever going to believe him when he says, 107 00:06:37,675 --> 00:06:47,475 Speaker 1: I don't read the Wall Street Journal editorial page. Meanwhile, 108 00:06:47,675 --> 00:06:52,275 Speaker 1: Dementia J. Trump is at it again, his stalking horse 109 00:06:52,355 --> 00:06:57,915 Speaker 1: running against Biden, the famous and crazy political fortunate sun guy. 110 00:06:58,515 --> 00:07:01,235 Speaker 1: He and the other Republicans and the Libertarians are propping 111 00:07:01,315 --> 00:07:03,995 Speaker 1: up as a challenger to try to sew chaos in 112 00:07:04,035 --> 00:07:06,755 Speaker 1: the Democratic primaries. You know the name of the man 113 00:07:06,795 --> 00:07:13,675 Speaker 1: I'm talking about, right, Robert F. Kennedy Junior. Right, No, sorry, 114 00:07:13,715 --> 00:07:14,635 Speaker 1: you got the name wrong. 115 00:07:14,835 --> 00:07:17,355 Speaker 2: And Biden he's got somebody at twenty one percent. I 116 00:07:17,395 --> 00:07:19,835 Speaker 2: just saw a number twenty one percent, jfk Junior, who's 117 00:07:19,915 --> 00:07:23,155 Speaker 2: a very nice person. I know him very well. He's 118 00:07:23,155 --> 00:07:25,915 Speaker 2: a very very fine person. He's a twenty one percent. 119 00:07:26,155 --> 00:07:28,955 Speaker 1: That from the second half of his interview with Brett 120 00:07:28,995 --> 00:07:31,315 Speaker 1: Behar on Fox News Channel. And I have to admit 121 00:07:31,915 --> 00:07:36,595 Speaker 1: Brett Behar made me happy. JFK. Junior says dementia. J 122 00:07:36,795 --> 00:07:41,115 Speaker 1: Trump bear more in exhaustion than an anger, says Robert. 123 00:07:41,675 --> 00:07:47,875 Speaker 1: Robert Trump never even notices it. He thinks that's JFK. Junior. 124 00:07:49,915 --> 00:07:51,995 Speaker 1: As to the rest of the Trump interview, in a 125 00:07:52,035 --> 00:07:55,635 Speaker 1: surprising development, Trump did not confess again to any or 126 00:07:55,675 --> 00:07:58,075 Speaker 1: all of the thirty seven counts in the document's case, 127 00:07:58,195 --> 00:07:59,675 Speaker 1: so we'll just have to stick with all of his 128 00:07:59,715 --> 00:08:03,875 Speaker 1: confessions from part one on Monday night. In another surprise, 129 00:08:04,115 --> 00:08:07,475 Speaker 1: there is that rarest of political news stories now new 130 00:08:07,555 --> 00:08:12,435 Speaker 1: polling that is both insightful and newsworthy. The NBC poll 131 00:08:12,555 --> 00:08:15,515 Speaker 1: shows fifty nine percent of Americans think Trump should end 132 00:08:15,555 --> 00:08:19,115 Speaker 1: his campaign now, and eleven percent more say he should 133 00:08:19,355 --> 00:08:23,355 Speaker 1: if convicted. A majority approves of the indictments. Those seventy 134 00:08:23,395 --> 00:08:26,275 Speaker 1: one percent say politics played a role in the decision 135 00:08:26,315 --> 00:08:29,595 Speaker 1: to charge him. But what does the word politics mean here? 136 00:08:30,195 --> 00:08:33,355 Speaker 1: If I think he should never hold political office again? 137 00:08:33,555 --> 00:08:37,115 Speaker 1: Is that politics? If I think our system of politics 138 00:08:37,115 --> 00:08:40,075 Speaker 1: and government will only be preserved if he is in jail. 139 00:08:40,715 --> 00:08:44,315 Speaker 1: Is that politics? Is it? For the average respondent to 140 00:08:44,395 --> 00:08:50,835 Speaker 1: this NBC poll? What does politics mean? What isn't politics? Anyway? 141 00:08:50,875 --> 00:08:54,915 Speaker 1: There is news in the poll. The percentage of Republicans 142 00:08:54,955 --> 00:08:57,275 Speaker 1: who think he should end his campaign now is twenty 143 00:08:57,595 --> 00:08:59,995 Speaker 1: six percent, and that is still on the margins, but 144 00:09:00,115 --> 00:09:02,915 Speaker 1: keep it filed somewhere. It's a quarter of Republicans who 145 00:09:02,955 --> 00:09:07,835 Speaker 1: think he should drop out today because also the Republican's 146 00:09:07,915 --> 00:09:10,395 Speaker 1: first choice for their nominee is still Trump, but it's 147 00:09:10,435 --> 00:09:12,995 Speaker 1: now forty seven percent. A month ago it was fifty 148 00:09:13,035 --> 00:09:16,115 Speaker 1: three percent. And the biggest growth among the other candidates 149 00:09:16,155 --> 00:09:20,155 Speaker 1: is impossibly enough Pence. Pence has gone from six percent 150 00:09:20,155 --> 00:09:25,595 Speaker 1: to nine percent. But the real inside statistic. One month ago, 151 00:09:25,755 --> 00:09:30,115 Speaker 1: before the indictments, Trump was viewed favorably by seventy seven 152 00:09:30,195 --> 00:09:36,515 Speaker 1: percent of Republican voters. Now sixty seven percent of Republican voters. 153 00:09:36,995 --> 00:09:41,115 Speaker 1: A ten point drop in anything is a trend worth 154 00:09:41,195 --> 00:09:43,875 Speaker 1: keeping an eye on. Watch that one the next time 155 00:09:43,915 --> 00:09:48,075 Speaker 1: they ask after the next round of indictments. By the way, 156 00:09:48,115 --> 00:09:50,675 Speaker 1: if you heard that the trial of the United States 157 00:09:50,675 --> 00:09:54,075 Speaker 1: of America versus dementia Jay Trump has been slated to 158 00:09:54,155 --> 00:09:58,835 Speaker 1: commence by the Trump appointed judge Eileen Cannon on August fourteenth. Relax, 159 00:09:59,315 --> 00:10:02,835 Speaker 1: don't make your reservations. Not one person who has ever 160 00:10:02,875 --> 00:10:06,075 Speaker 1: been in the same room as a law textbook thinks 161 00:10:06,075 --> 00:10:09,675 Speaker 1: it'll actually start that day. Canon is notorious for choosing 162 00:10:09,755 --> 00:10:12,915 Speaker 1: the earliest date possible and then letting the delays start 163 00:10:12,995 --> 00:10:16,715 Speaker 1: knocking it back from there. Besides which, we also have 164 00:10:16,795 --> 00:10:19,035 Speaker 1: to wait for Alito's next op ed in the Journal 165 00:10:19,075 --> 00:10:26,675 Speaker 1: denying that he knows Trump. By the way, I also 166 00:10:26,715 --> 00:10:30,035 Speaker 1: have a message for conservatives who are angry about Hunter 167 00:10:30,155 --> 00:10:34,675 Speaker 1: Biden's plea deal and Trump's indictment and Trump's other indictment 168 00:10:35,195 --> 00:10:39,675 Speaker 1: and Trump's upcoming indictment and Trump's later indictments. The message 169 00:10:39,675 --> 00:10:44,515 Speaker 1: for conservatives is this, we don't care the rest of us. 170 00:10:44,915 --> 00:10:49,475 Speaker 1: We don't care anymore what you think you believe. Laws 171 00:10:49,515 --> 00:10:51,955 Speaker 1: do not apply to you, and especially not to dementia. 172 00:10:52,035 --> 00:10:55,195 Speaker 1: J Trump and you bemoan weaponized government when the only 173 00:10:55,235 --> 00:10:57,555 Speaker 1: thing you really object to it about it is you 174 00:10:57,675 --> 00:11:01,115 Speaker 1: believe you do not own the weapon permanently. Think what 175 00:11:01,195 --> 00:11:04,235 Speaker 1: you like. You're wrong. We never should have indulged you 176 00:11:04,315 --> 00:11:06,395 Speaker 1: nor are good with you. We're gonna stop that now. 177 00:11:06,515 --> 00:11:10,755 Speaker 1: We don't care anymore. The country is not biased against you. 178 00:11:11,635 --> 00:11:14,035 Speaker 1: Just because you're paranoid, that does not mean they are 179 00:11:14,115 --> 00:11:17,555 Speaker 1: out to get you. The hunter Biden prosecutor was appointed 180 00:11:17,555 --> 00:11:21,355 Speaker 1: by Trump. This FBI director was appointed by Trump, and 181 00:11:21,395 --> 00:11:24,755 Speaker 1: the only political pressure applied to the Trump documents investigation 182 00:11:24,915 --> 00:11:28,195 Speaker 1: was on his behalf. The Biden administration gave him a 183 00:11:28,435 --> 00:11:31,355 Speaker 1: full year to give it all back, and then gave 184 00:11:31,435 --> 00:11:33,595 Speaker 1: him more time after that, and even now it would 185 00:11:33,675 --> 00:11:36,115 Speaker 1: probably take a plea deal with him. And oh, by 186 00:11:36,155 --> 00:11:39,075 Speaker 1: the way, Trump is incredibly guilty. He's treason us and 187 00:11:39,115 --> 00:11:42,595 Speaker 1: traitorous enough to merit capital punishment, which he will not get. 188 00:11:42,715 --> 00:11:46,115 Speaker 1: Because we are squeamish. And if you don't believe all 189 00:11:46,115 --> 00:11:52,275 Speaker 1: that reality, we don't care. We don't care anymore. Believe 190 00:11:52,635 --> 00:11:55,955 Speaker 1: what you want, you believe what you want anyway. This 191 00:11:56,195 --> 00:12:01,395 Speaker 1: is where reality leaves you behind, and the argument ends, 192 00:12:01,795 --> 00:12:09,155 Speaker 1: we don't care. There are still millions of rational Americans, 193 00:12:09,555 --> 00:12:12,115 Speaker 1: and by that I mean people who are not conservative, 194 00:12:12,235 --> 00:12:14,515 Speaker 1: who still in their hearts think that they might be 195 00:12:14,595 --> 00:12:18,475 Speaker 1: able to convert Grandpa or talk their old friend back off. 196 00:12:18,475 --> 00:12:23,515 Speaker 1: The QAnon ledge forget them. It has not worked, it 197 00:12:23,555 --> 00:12:26,075 Speaker 1: will not work. Stop wasting your time. I don't know 198 00:12:26,115 --> 00:12:28,555 Speaker 1: what we do about them now, but essentially they are dead, 199 00:12:29,595 --> 00:12:32,275 Speaker 1: and I might add for many of them, the fuel 200 00:12:32,475 --> 00:12:37,475 Speaker 1: to their insane conservative fire is our efforts to fix them. 201 00:12:38,715 --> 00:12:41,355 Speaker 1: I will not fix them. You will not fix them. 202 00:12:42,035 --> 00:12:46,155 Speaker 1: They will make it back to reality, or they won't. 203 00:12:46,595 --> 00:12:49,315 Speaker 1: You should save your energy for the effort to rehabilitate 204 00:12:49,355 --> 00:12:54,635 Speaker 1: them if they actually do seek help. Otherwise, our focus 205 00:12:54,635 --> 00:12:59,515 Speaker 1: can only be this, defeat them, kicking their cult leaders 206 00:12:59,555 --> 00:13:02,835 Speaker 1: out of office, stripping their attorneys of their law degrees, 207 00:13:03,115 --> 00:13:06,755 Speaker 1: marginalizing them in culture and entertainment and business. They think 208 00:13:06,755 --> 00:13:10,155 Speaker 1: they are marginalized anyway, Why shouldn't we gain the advantages 209 00:13:10,195 --> 00:13:12,595 Speaker 1: that would come with that, and with the blame which 210 00:13:12,595 --> 00:13:16,755 Speaker 1: they already heap upon us. The Hunter Biden plea deal 211 00:13:16,875 --> 00:13:19,995 Speaker 1: matters because in some senses it draws a perfect picture 212 00:13:20,355 --> 00:13:24,995 Speaker 1: of the destabilized terrain upon which conservatism is built. Here 213 00:13:25,075 --> 00:13:29,315 Speaker 1: is a Nepo baby. Well, Nepo babies, that's the point 214 00:13:29,355 --> 00:13:34,355 Speaker 1: of conservatism. He's got hookers and blow the breakfast of conservatism. 215 00:13:34,795 --> 00:13:39,155 Speaker 1: He's a gun owner, the real addiction of conservatism. He's 216 00:13:39,435 --> 00:13:44,035 Speaker 1: got his inalienable Second Amendment rights, the litmus test of conservatism, 217 00:13:44,515 --> 00:13:48,155 Speaker 1: and he was prosecuted by a weaponized Department of Justice, 218 00:13:48,675 --> 00:13:54,755 Speaker 1: the stigmata of conservatism. And they've had to treat him 219 00:13:55,195 --> 00:14:00,435 Speaker 1: their brother like an enemy. Hookers in blow and the 220 00:14:00,515 --> 00:14:07,955 Speaker 1: Second Amendment walking over this bed of hot coals has 221 00:14:08,075 --> 00:14:14,235 Speaker 1: shaken the conservative movement. There are only so many rationalizations. Well, 222 00:14:14,235 --> 00:14:18,595 Speaker 1: he had the wrong kind of hookers, and about the guns. 223 00:14:18,875 --> 00:14:23,395 Speaker 1: He didn't shoot anybody. And the guy at Justice who 224 00:14:23,435 --> 00:14:25,835 Speaker 1: got him to plead to an ownership while drug abusing 225 00:14:25,915 --> 00:14:29,795 Speaker 1: charge that they never prosecute. That guy was appointed by 226 00:14:29,915 --> 00:14:43,675 Speaker 1: Trump hunter Biden has deranged them well. Also of interest 227 00:14:43,875 --> 00:14:48,035 Speaker 1: here well well, Embers from the Elon Musk Joe Rogan, 228 00:14:48,075 --> 00:14:54,955 Speaker 1: Peter Hotez debate thing with the JFK RFK senior junior 229 00:14:54,955 --> 00:14:59,355 Speaker 1: whoever jf r K, I'll take it from Laguardi instead, 230 00:14:59,555 --> 00:15:02,915 Speaker 1: whoever it is. Embers from that flared up again yesterday 231 00:15:03,195 --> 00:15:06,955 Speaker 1: and Meghan Kelly involved long enough to make worse persons, 232 00:15:07,235 --> 00:15:09,395 Speaker 1: and not because they threw water on her and then 233 00:15:09,435 --> 00:15:13,195 Speaker 1: she said she was melting. In fact, she said that's next. 234 00:15:13,315 --> 00:15:19,035 Speaker 1: This is kind of this is countdown with Keith Alboman 235 00:15:25,515 --> 00:15:28,835 Speaker 1: postscripts to the news. Some headlines, some updates, some stark, 236 00:15:28,915 --> 00:15:31,955 Speaker 1: some prediction s date line New York Times headquarters here 237 00:15:31,955 --> 00:15:35,835 Speaker 1: in bigtown. Do you see what happens? Do you see 238 00:15:35,875 --> 00:15:38,755 Speaker 1: what happens? Larry? Do you see what happens? When you 239 00:15:38,795 --> 00:15:42,075 Speaker 1: don't know? You're the butt of a long running internet joke. No, 240 00:15:42,195 --> 00:15:45,355 Speaker 1: not Larry David. For years, people have made fun of 241 00:15:45,395 --> 00:15:49,115 Speaker 1: The New York Times for its op ed pages, particularly 242 00:15:49,195 --> 00:15:52,435 Speaker 1: when those pages try to force culture into a political 243 00:15:52,515 --> 00:15:56,475 Speaker 1: box or politics into a cultural box, or sometimes both 244 00:15:56,515 --> 00:16:00,675 Speaker 1: at the same time. One running gag, advanced brilliantly by 245 00:16:00,675 --> 00:16:03,555 Speaker 1: the Twitter account New York Times pitch Bot, is the 246 00:16:03,595 --> 00:16:06,835 Speaker 1: painful Maureen Dowd column in which a movie or musical 247 00:16:06,875 --> 00:16:10,475 Speaker 1: plot is twisted to fit her thesis. The most recent 248 00:16:11,035 --> 00:16:15,755 Speaker 1: quote job Dick Orcas are attacking pea quads all over 249 00:16:15,795 --> 00:16:19,035 Speaker 1: the world, but the only great whale Biden is hunting 250 00:16:19,155 --> 00:16:23,875 Speaker 1: is orange by Maureen Dowd. No, she didn't really write that. 251 00:16:24,435 --> 00:16:28,795 Speaker 1: Another theme is the in This Ohio Diner Times formula 252 00:16:29,115 --> 00:16:33,715 Speaker 1: and the frequently seen column titled how X Explains America. 253 00:16:34,195 --> 00:16:36,395 Speaker 1: You can put anything you want to into the X 254 00:16:36,675 --> 00:16:40,875 Speaker 1: movie book. TV series. Yesterday, The New York Times either 255 00:16:40,955 --> 00:16:44,155 Speaker 1: leaned into the gag, or much more likely, stumbled into 256 00:16:44,195 --> 00:16:47,195 Speaker 1: it without knowing. It devoted nearly all of its op 257 00:16:47,355 --> 00:16:52,435 Speaker 1: ed section to a series of how X explains America, 258 00:16:53,235 --> 00:16:57,835 Speaker 1: How Ted Lasso explains America, How Her explains America, How 259 00:16:58,315 --> 00:17:02,155 Speaker 1: a Hazard of New Fortunes explains America. How Ragged Dick 260 00:17:02,355 --> 00:17:05,955 Speaker 1: explains America, How The Great Gatsby explained America, How South 261 00:17:06,035 --> 00:17:11,275 Speaker 1: Park explains America. How Rappers Delight explains America. There were 262 00:17:11,395 --> 00:17:16,475 Speaker 1: seventeen of them in all, presented in full seriousness. Only 263 00:17:16,515 --> 00:17:20,795 Speaker 1: one was missing. How Bad New York Times Editing explains America. 264 00:17:21,955 --> 00:17:25,835 Speaker 1: Even more harrowing, Yesterday's New York Times opinion section featured 265 00:17:25,915 --> 00:17:30,515 Speaker 1: very possibly the most irrelevant trivial thing ever printed in 266 00:17:30,555 --> 00:17:34,435 Speaker 1: The New York Times. A guest op ed was titled 267 00:17:34,915 --> 00:17:41,915 Speaker 1: what America could learn from Skip and Shannon Undisputed. Skip 268 00:17:41,995 --> 00:17:44,875 Speaker 1: and Shannon Undisputed. For those few of you who don't 269 00:17:44,875 --> 00:17:48,555 Speaker 1: know what it is, is a television show kind of 270 00:17:49,315 --> 00:17:52,515 Speaker 1: It is a cable sports debate program ripped off from 271 00:17:52,675 --> 00:17:56,395 Speaker 1: an ESPN cable sports debate program for which Fox Sports 272 00:17:56,435 --> 00:18:00,115 Speaker 1: literally hired away from an ESPN Sports debate program a 273 00:18:00,155 --> 00:18:04,675 Speaker 1: host called Skip Bayless. All such programs are the same, 274 00:18:04,915 --> 00:18:07,995 Speaker 1: with the exception of ESPN's Pardon the Interruption, which is 275 00:18:08,035 --> 00:18:10,235 Speaker 1: the only one of all of them, and there are 276 00:18:10,315 --> 00:18:13,195 Speaker 1: seventeen million on the air right now, designed to be 277 00:18:13,635 --> 00:18:17,595 Speaker 1: as succinct as possible half an hour in total, about 278 00:18:17,675 --> 00:18:21,715 Speaker 1: a minute maybe ninety seconds per topic tops. All the 279 00:18:21,755 --> 00:18:25,035 Speaker 1: others are there for only one reason, to kill as 280 00:18:25,115 --> 00:18:29,075 Speaker 1: much TV or radio time as possible. The heroes of 281 00:18:29,115 --> 00:18:31,795 Speaker 1: this profession, the well paid ones, are those who can 282 00:18:31,795 --> 00:18:34,755 Speaker 1: say one thing and take twenty seven minutes to do it, 283 00:18:34,875 --> 00:18:37,435 Speaker 1: and then say it again and kill off another twenty 284 00:18:37,475 --> 00:18:40,075 Speaker 1: seven minutes, or, to put it in their terms, to 285 00:18:40,195 --> 00:18:42,755 Speaker 1: kill off twenty seven minutes of time, and then to 286 00:18:42,875 --> 00:18:45,595 Speaker 1: kill off time in the total of twenty seven minutes. 287 00:18:46,555 --> 00:18:50,435 Speaker 1: A hint of racism underneath the conversation usually helps, to 288 00:18:50,475 --> 00:18:53,155 Speaker 1: say nothing of a strict avoidance of anything more complicated 289 00:18:53,355 --> 00:18:57,075 Speaker 1: than who is undoubtedly the greatest player of all time? 290 00:18:57,875 --> 00:19:03,315 Speaker 1: This week. Fox hired Away Bayless from ESPN in twenty sixteen, 291 00:19:03,355 --> 00:19:05,515 Speaker 1: and six and a half years later, the Bayles Show 292 00:19:05,635 --> 00:19:10,555 Speaker 1: on Fox averages two hundred thousand viewers a day at 293 00:19:10,595 --> 00:19:12,835 Speaker 1: this rate of growth. It debuted with one hundred and 294 00:19:12,875 --> 00:19:15,875 Speaker 1: seven thousand viewers, so let's say it's adding one hundred 295 00:19:15,875 --> 00:19:18,715 Speaker 1: thousand every six and a half years. That means it 296 00:19:18,755 --> 00:19:20,915 Speaker 1: will reach a million viewers a show sometime in the 297 00:19:20,995 --> 00:19:25,155 Speaker 1: year twenty seventy five, or it would have if Bayless's 298 00:19:25,195 --> 00:19:28,995 Speaker 1: co host, Shannon Sharp had not announced he's leaving. Anyway, 299 00:19:29,075 --> 00:19:31,875 Speaker 1: I read this New York Times op ed written by 300 00:19:32,155 --> 00:19:36,155 Speaker 1: an editor of a Catholic literary journal, twice, and I'm 301 00:19:36,155 --> 00:19:39,275 Speaker 1: still not sure what America could learn from Skip and 302 00:19:39,315 --> 00:19:42,635 Speaker 1: Shannon undisputed, other than that that which may surprise some 303 00:19:42,715 --> 00:19:45,355 Speaker 1: of the millions who used to watch this Bayliss on ESPN, 304 00:19:45,395 --> 00:19:47,875 Speaker 1: which is that he did not retire or die in 305 00:19:47,915 --> 00:19:52,635 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. He merely went to Fox. The piece seems 306 00:19:52,675 --> 00:19:55,635 Speaker 1: to suffer from something I have never seen before, the 307 00:19:55,715 --> 00:20:01,475 Speaker 1: contention that sports debate on TV and radio is well done, 308 00:20:01,635 --> 00:20:05,875 Speaker 1: or is somehow necessary, or would somehow be missed if 309 00:20:05,875 --> 00:20:09,715 Speaker 1: it all disappeared tomorrow, or shows us how different people 310 00:20:09,755 --> 00:20:15,235 Speaker 1: can talk to each other productively or something without I guess, 311 00:20:15,275 --> 00:20:18,995 Speaker 1: stabbing each other, or that people watch and like Skip Bayless, 312 00:20:19,275 --> 00:20:22,155 Speaker 1: or know what the name of Fox's cable sports network 313 00:20:22,235 --> 00:20:24,755 Speaker 1: is I used to work for Fox's cable sports network. 314 00:20:24,875 --> 00:20:27,915 Speaker 1: I was the senior correspondent for Fox's cable Sports network. 315 00:20:27,995 --> 00:20:29,715 Speaker 1: And I don't even know what the name of it is. 316 00:20:30,995 --> 00:20:33,595 Speaker 1: But now it's in the New York Times. It belongs 317 00:20:33,635 --> 00:20:38,035 Speaker 1: to the Ages. It's all the news that fits. I 318 00:20:38,075 --> 00:20:40,075 Speaker 1: am expecting The New York Times will soon offer me 319 00:20:40,115 --> 00:20:43,515 Speaker 1: an op ed titled how what America could learn from 320 00:20:43,515 --> 00:21:03,675 Speaker 1: Skipp and Shannon Undisputed Explains America by Maureen Dowd. Still ahead. 321 00:21:03,715 --> 00:21:06,715 Speaker 1: Oh boy, he got me talking about Citizen Kane, the 322 00:21:06,715 --> 00:21:08,835 Speaker 1: Great movie again, And so I had to tell the 323 00:21:08,835 --> 00:21:10,835 Speaker 1: story of the day I met one of its stars 324 00:21:10,875 --> 00:21:12,835 Speaker 1: and did not know I had met him until after 325 00:21:12,875 --> 00:21:16,835 Speaker 1: he left. Not good, Keith, Not good. Next in things 326 00:21:16,875 --> 00:21:19,555 Speaker 1: I promised not to tell. First the daily round up 327 00:21:19,555 --> 00:21:22,195 Speaker 1: of the misgrants, morons and Dunning Kruger effects specimens who 328 00:21:22,275 --> 00:21:28,275 Speaker 1: constitute today's worst persons in the world Brons. The twenty 329 00:21:28,315 --> 00:21:33,155 Speaker 1: twenty four Paris Olympic Organizing Committee, its headquarters in San Denis, 330 00:21:33,235 --> 00:21:36,555 Speaker 1: outside Paris, and the French public body in charge of 331 00:21:36,635 --> 00:21:40,395 Speaker 1: building projects for next summer's Olympics both got little visits 332 00:21:40,475 --> 00:21:44,235 Speaker 1: yesterday raided by the French department in charge of investigating 333 00:21:44,275 --> 00:21:48,835 Speaker 1: financial crimes. The president of the French Olympic Organizing Committee 334 00:21:48,875 --> 00:21:53,235 Speaker 1: had resigned last month. France's national rugby and soccer federation 335 00:21:53,355 --> 00:21:57,595 Speaker 1: chiefs both resigned earlier this year. Remind me again why 336 00:21:57,635 --> 00:22:03,235 Speaker 1: we have Olympics. The runner up, Liz Truss, does that 337 00:22:03,315 --> 00:22:05,875 Speaker 1: name ring a bell, a distant bell? You know she 338 00:22:05,995 --> 00:22:08,995 Speaker 1: was Prime Minister of Great Britain last year. Then again, 339 00:22:09,035 --> 00:22:12,195 Speaker 1: who wasn't And when she took office there was just 340 00:22:12,235 --> 00:22:15,115 Speaker 1: a little expectation that Liz Trust wasn't going to make it. 341 00:22:15,715 --> 00:22:19,155 Speaker 1: London's newspaper, The Daily Mail, started a live stream of 342 00:22:19,235 --> 00:22:22,875 Speaker 1: ahead of Lettuce to see which would last longer. The 343 00:22:22,995 --> 00:22:27,595 Speaker 1: Lettus or Liz Trusts forty four days letter. Having crashed 344 00:22:27,595 --> 00:22:30,635 Speaker 1: the British economy and lost the support of her own party, 345 00:22:31,235 --> 00:22:34,915 Speaker 1: Liz Trust was forced out. The Lettuce won, but no 346 00:22:35,035 --> 00:22:38,955 Speaker 1: hard feelings. Asked by the Irish network RTE what she 347 00:22:39,075 --> 00:22:41,915 Speaker 1: thought of the live, local and late breaking Lettuce, Liz 348 00:22:41,915 --> 00:22:45,035 Speaker 1: Trust has now replied. She snapped at the question, then 349 00:22:45,075 --> 00:22:47,835 Speaker 1: said quote, I don't think it was particularly funny. I 350 00:22:47,835 --> 00:22:51,635 Speaker 1: think it's quare Isle Liz. Yeah, but think about how 351 00:22:51,635 --> 00:22:56,355 Speaker 1: the lettuce feels. But our winner, Megan Kelly, the fired 352 00:22:56,355 --> 00:22:59,875 Speaker 1: Fox and NBC starlett who now keeps the world's camera 353 00:22:59,915 --> 00:23:03,795 Speaker 1: filter manufacturers in business, largely because I don't want to 354 00:23:03,795 --> 00:23:05,515 Speaker 1: have to go through all this again. I'm going to 355 00:23:05,515 --> 00:23:10,355 Speaker 1: assume you know the entire Joe Rogan RFK junior doctor 356 00:23:10,435 --> 00:23:15,075 Speaker 1: Peter Hotes debate nonsense. Any who Hotes has now tweeted 357 00:23:15,075 --> 00:23:17,955 Speaker 1: that he's hoping to stay on Twitter and other social media, 358 00:23:18,275 --> 00:23:21,555 Speaker 1: but it's stranger than ever, especially for scientists like him. 359 00:23:22,235 --> 00:23:25,115 Speaker 1: Kelly thereupon chimed in with a two word message for 360 00:23:25,235 --> 00:23:31,515 Speaker 1: doctor Hotes quote grow up, unquote grow up. Megan Kelly 361 00:23:31,635 --> 00:23:36,755 Speaker 1: is the shrillest, whiniest, most self absorbed, most self martyring, 362 00:23:37,315 --> 00:23:42,955 Speaker 1: loudest crying complainer on Twitter. She is a veritable overflowing 363 00:23:43,155 --> 00:23:48,875 Speaker 1: toilet of umbrage and unrighteous indignation. And she is telling 364 00:23:48,915 --> 00:23:53,835 Speaker 1: somebody else, somebody who actually contributes something to society, to 365 00:23:54,115 --> 00:24:00,635 Speaker 1: grow up. Megan. What is her appeal again, Kelly Today's 366 00:24:01,395 --> 00:24:19,075 Speaker 1: worst parson and the world. Now to the number one 367 00:24:19,155 --> 00:24:21,755 Speaker 1: story on the Countdown and my favorite topic, me and 368 00:24:21,875 --> 00:24:25,275 Speaker 1: things I promised not to tell and I swear I thought, 369 00:24:25,595 --> 00:24:30,795 Speaker 1: I heard her say, Carleton, this was also December in 370 00:24:30,875 --> 00:24:33,835 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty five in Los Angeles, and if you've never 371 00:24:33,835 --> 00:24:36,955 Speaker 1: spent Christmas in a warm metropolitan area for the first 372 00:24:36,955 --> 00:24:39,995 Speaker 1: time in your life, you do not know what disorientation 373 00:24:40,155 --> 00:24:43,755 Speaker 1: really is. I had just completed three months in my 374 00:24:43,835 --> 00:24:46,395 Speaker 1: new job as the sports director of Channel five in LA. 375 00:24:46,915 --> 00:24:49,835 Speaker 1: I had spent most of November adjusting not only to 376 00:24:49,875 --> 00:24:53,115 Speaker 1: it not getting cold, but to the fact that almost 377 00:24:53,195 --> 00:24:55,915 Speaker 1: nobody else noticed that it was not getting cold, except 378 00:24:55,955 --> 00:24:58,875 Speaker 1: one of our production assistants, who sprinted through the parking 379 00:24:58,875 --> 00:25:01,435 Speaker 1: lot and up the stairs into the little bungalow on 380 00:25:01,475 --> 00:25:04,675 Speaker 1: the KTLA lot in Hollywood that housed our sports department. 381 00:25:05,355 --> 00:25:08,195 Speaker 1: He shivered like a dog, shaking himself awake, and announced, 382 00:25:08,395 --> 00:25:11,955 Speaker 1: my god, it's bitter out there. Bitter. I checked. It 383 00:25:11,995 --> 00:25:16,995 Speaker 1: was forty nine degrees. So December nineteen eighty five was 384 00:25:17,075 --> 00:25:20,795 Speaker 1: already weird enough. I was doing well in LA Being 385 00:25:20,835 --> 00:25:23,235 Speaker 1: three thousand miles away from everyone and everything I knew 386 00:25:23,235 --> 00:25:26,275 Speaker 1: had been surprisingly helpful, and there was no ramp up 387 00:25:26,275 --> 00:25:28,035 Speaker 1: time for my work. I'd already won a couple of 388 00:25:28,035 --> 00:25:31,235 Speaker 1: Best Sportscaster awards, and then the top All News radio 389 00:25:31,275 --> 00:25:33,635 Speaker 1: station was asking me to come over every afternoon and 390 00:25:33,875 --> 00:25:37,315 Speaker 1: split the afternoon drive sportscasting shift with a guy who'd 391 00:25:37,315 --> 00:25:40,875 Speaker 1: been on the air there literally for thirty years, who's 392 00:25:40,875 --> 00:25:43,235 Speaker 1: one of the voices in the background and The Godfather 393 00:25:43,395 --> 00:25:48,555 Speaker 1: Part two? And now somehow my producer, Ron Grelnick, and 394 00:25:48,635 --> 00:25:51,155 Speaker 1: I were headed to the Beverly Wilshire Hotel to go 395 00:25:51,275 --> 00:25:56,675 Speaker 1: interview Mickey Mantle. For the average LA sportscaster, there really 396 00:25:56,715 --> 00:25:59,715 Speaker 1: wasn't much reason to interview Mickey Mantle, which is why 397 00:25:59,755 --> 00:26:02,875 Speaker 1: all of them at the bigger three network stations had 398 00:26:02,915 --> 00:26:05,995 Speaker 1: turned down the offer of a sit down interview. But 399 00:26:06,115 --> 00:26:09,195 Speaker 1: I was a New Yorker and had been three months earlier, 400 00:26:09,195 --> 00:26:12,435 Speaker 1: and thus Mickey Mantle was my idol. And moreover, when 401 00:26:12,435 --> 00:26:15,155 Speaker 1: I became a baseball fan in nineteen sixty seven, my 402 00:26:15,235 --> 00:26:20,155 Speaker 1: folks bought tickets specifically behind first base at Yankee Stadium 403 00:26:20,195 --> 00:26:23,075 Speaker 1: because they had just moved Mantle there from the outfield. 404 00:26:23,115 --> 00:26:25,675 Speaker 1: And as my dad said, when you are an old man, 405 00:26:26,235 --> 00:26:28,395 Speaker 1: you will say the greatest thing you ever saw in 406 00:26:28,435 --> 00:26:31,915 Speaker 1: baseball was Mickey Mantle, so you might as well see 407 00:26:31,915 --> 00:26:34,315 Speaker 1: as much of him as you can. Well, I'm an 408 00:26:34,315 --> 00:26:38,315 Speaker 1: old man now, and my dad was exactly right. Mantle 409 00:26:38,435 --> 00:26:41,155 Speaker 1: was on a tour publicizing some kind of hitting video 410 00:26:41,195 --> 00:26:43,835 Speaker 1: and he would do one exclusive interview with an LA 411 00:26:43,955 --> 00:26:46,715 Speaker 1: station at like exactly five pm on that night in 412 00:26:46,755 --> 00:26:49,715 Speaker 1: December nineteen eighty five. And to get it you had 413 00:26:49,715 --> 00:26:52,675 Speaker 1: to agree to give the video exactly one plug and 414 00:26:52,795 --> 00:26:55,875 Speaker 1: ask him one question about it. But otherwise you could 415 00:26:55,915 --> 00:26:58,995 Speaker 1: ask whatever you wanted. He had fifteen minutes then he 416 00:26:59,075 --> 00:27:04,155 Speaker 1: was going out to dinner. Yeah, yeah, that was it dinner. 417 00:27:05,075 --> 00:27:07,195 Speaker 1: So Ron and I pulled up to the Beverly Wilshire 418 00:27:07,235 --> 00:27:09,515 Speaker 1: in his car, and I had never been in, but 419 00:27:09,595 --> 00:27:11,755 Speaker 1: I had walked past it a dozen times, and I 420 00:27:11,795 --> 00:27:13,875 Speaker 1: knew there was a new wing and an old wing. 421 00:27:13,955 --> 00:27:16,355 Speaker 1: And as Ron tried to park, I tried to find 422 00:27:16,355 --> 00:27:18,635 Speaker 1: the room where Mantle would be waiting for us, so 423 00:27:18,715 --> 00:27:21,075 Speaker 1: I could be there to meet the camera crew that 424 00:27:21,195 --> 00:27:24,275 Speaker 1: was joining us from some other shoot somewhere. And also 425 00:27:24,315 --> 00:27:27,315 Speaker 1: because he was Mickey Mantle. I had met him before. 426 00:27:27,315 --> 00:27:29,875 Speaker 1: I had even interviewed him briefly for CNN, but nothing 427 00:27:29,995 --> 00:27:32,435 Speaker 1: like this, nothing like a sit down interview, just me 428 00:27:32,995 --> 00:27:39,155 Speaker 1: and him. The room number was something like eight ninety seven, 429 00:27:39,595 --> 00:27:41,555 Speaker 1: could have been five ninety seven. Could have been twelve 430 00:27:41,635 --> 00:27:44,675 Speaker 1: ninety seven, but it was basically the highest number there 431 00:27:44,715 --> 00:27:48,515 Speaker 1: could be on a given hotel floor. And I saw 432 00:27:48,555 --> 00:27:50,795 Speaker 1: the elevator just pass the registration desk and up. I 433 00:27:50,835 --> 00:27:53,835 Speaker 1: went to the eighth floor, and it was a deserted labyrinth, 434 00:27:54,315 --> 00:27:57,195 Speaker 1: turn after turn and nobody there. And then suddenly I 435 00:27:57,235 --> 00:28:00,875 Speaker 1: turned a corner, and walking towards me was the most 436 00:28:00,915 --> 00:28:04,435 Speaker 1: elegantly dressed older couple I had ever seen to that 437 00:28:05,555 --> 00:28:11,475 Speaker 1: or since she was wearing a mink stole atop a 438 00:28:11,515 --> 00:28:15,395 Speaker 1: beautiful gown, and she had a diamond necklace big enough 439 00:28:15,435 --> 00:28:20,075 Speaker 1: to induce cramps. She had a piercing, glistening set of 440 00:28:20,115 --> 00:28:23,155 Speaker 1: deep brown eyes. She looked to be in her mid 441 00:28:23,195 --> 00:28:28,035 Speaker 1: to late fifties, but might have been older. He was older, 442 00:28:28,115 --> 00:28:30,595 Speaker 1: maybe eighty, but with a full head of thick and 443 00:28:30,715 --> 00:28:34,955 Speaker 1: wiry hair. He was tall, thin, extraordinarily elegant in a 444 00:28:34,995 --> 00:28:38,795 Speaker 1: perfect tuxedo. But all of this was overwhelmed, almost erased, 445 00:28:38,835 --> 00:28:43,235 Speaker 1: by one fact that startles me still thirty seven years later. 446 00:28:44,115 --> 00:28:51,635 Speaker 1: This man was wearing a cape. I'm pretty confident that 447 00:28:51,675 --> 00:28:54,475 Speaker 1: I had never seen a man wearing a cape before. 448 00:28:54,675 --> 00:28:57,515 Speaker 1: I know I have not seen one since I have 449 00:28:57,635 --> 00:29:00,955 Speaker 1: been looking, and yet it looked so good on him 450 00:29:01,235 --> 00:29:04,755 Speaker 1: that I can recall briefly thinking, Keith, maybe you should 451 00:29:04,795 --> 00:29:10,235 Speaker 1: by a cape. This couple was perfect. We seem to 452 00:29:10,235 --> 00:29:13,075 Speaker 1: be the only people on the floor. The hallway wasn't 453 00:29:13,075 --> 00:29:15,115 Speaker 1: all that wide. I said, good evening as I passed. 454 00:29:15,155 --> 00:29:17,515 Speaker 1: She said good evening, and in so doing revealed a 455 00:29:17,555 --> 00:29:20,795 Speaker 1: British accent, and he mumbled at evening and revealed what 456 00:29:20,915 --> 00:29:24,115 Speaker 1: sounded like the lingering minor aftermaths of a minor stroke. 457 00:29:24,715 --> 00:29:28,315 Speaker 1: They walked their way, I walked mine, and my focus 458 00:29:28,355 --> 00:29:31,755 Speaker 1: returned to finding Mickey Mantle in room eight ninety seven. 459 00:29:32,835 --> 00:29:35,595 Speaker 1: The numbers of the rooms I was passing were like 460 00:29:35,675 --> 00:29:38,115 Speaker 1: eight eleven and eight fourteen, And after a few more 461 00:29:38,195 --> 00:29:40,635 Speaker 1: turns of the labyrinth that dawned on me that I 462 00:29:40,755 --> 00:29:43,595 Speaker 1: must be in the old wing of the Beverly Wilshire, 463 00:29:43,955 --> 00:29:46,235 Speaker 1: and the high numbers like eight ninety seven must have 464 00:29:46,275 --> 00:29:48,915 Speaker 1: been in the new Wing of the Beverly Wilshire. I 465 00:29:48,955 --> 00:29:51,355 Speaker 1: also noticed that I had not passed a doorway or 466 00:29:51,435 --> 00:29:54,275 Speaker 1: a vestibule or some kind of connecting bridge to the 467 00:29:54,315 --> 00:29:56,795 Speaker 1: new wing, so I had better make it back to 468 00:29:56,835 --> 00:29:59,235 Speaker 1: the elevator and the lobby before Ron or the camera 469 00:29:59,275 --> 00:30:02,875 Speaker 1: crew made the same mistake I had. Because Mickey Mantle 470 00:30:03,075 --> 00:30:07,915 Speaker 1: was waiting, I reversed course. I began to trot. After 471 00:30:08,035 --> 00:30:11,275 Speaker 1: three or four more of these labyrinthine turns, I found, 472 00:30:11,395 --> 00:30:14,915 Speaker 1: to my shock that the perfectly elegant older couple he 473 00:30:15,155 --> 00:30:19,355 Speaker 1: was wearing a cape, was standing exactly where I had 474 00:30:19,435 --> 00:30:23,435 Speaker 1: left them. She laughed. She mentioned something about the higher 475 00:30:23,515 --> 00:30:25,835 Speaker 1: numbers being in the new wing and everybody made that mistake. 476 00:30:25,915 --> 00:30:28,715 Speaker 1: I thanked her, and then she said, you're the young 477 00:30:28,755 --> 00:30:30,955 Speaker 1: man who does the spots on the television, aren't you. 478 00:30:32,315 --> 00:30:34,595 Speaker 1: And I had gotten pretty popular pretty fast there, but 479 00:30:34,635 --> 00:30:37,675 Speaker 1: being recognized was still very surprising and pleasantly so. And 480 00:30:37,715 --> 00:30:40,475 Speaker 1: I said that, and I introduced myself, So nice to 481 00:30:40,515 --> 00:30:44,155 Speaker 1: meet you. She said, I'm Patricia Carlton. And this she 482 00:30:44,235 --> 00:30:47,035 Speaker 1: pointed to the guy in the cape is my husband. 483 00:30:47,675 --> 00:30:51,435 Speaker 1: He slowly extended a hand but shook mine vigorously, and 484 00:30:51,515 --> 00:30:56,875 Speaker 1: I'm Joseph Carlton. Missus Carlton was very excited. You know, 485 00:30:57,035 --> 00:30:59,315 Speaker 1: Joe and I we really are not fans of the sports, 486 00:30:59,875 --> 00:31:01,755 Speaker 1: but whenever we were at home in Palm Springs, we 487 00:31:01,755 --> 00:31:03,275 Speaker 1: make sure we stay up until the end of the 488 00:31:03,315 --> 00:31:07,035 Speaker 1: ten o'clock news so we could walk you. Joe nodded 489 00:31:07,075 --> 00:31:10,355 Speaker 1: and smiled in the cape. You know, so clearly enjoying 490 00:31:10,355 --> 00:31:12,755 Speaker 1: yourself that we find ourselves enjoying it too. That's really 491 00:31:12,795 --> 00:31:17,275 Speaker 1: quite remarkable. I was genuinely touched and remain so I 492 00:31:17,315 --> 00:31:20,435 Speaker 1: explained my dilemma. I treated them as you are supposed 493 00:31:20,435 --> 00:31:22,915 Speaker 1: to treat viewers, gratefully and solicitously, and I asked them 494 00:31:22,955 --> 00:31:24,595 Speaker 1: if they were going to the lobby, and if I 495 00:31:24,675 --> 00:31:27,195 Speaker 1: might walk with them so I didn't get any further lost. 496 00:31:27,915 --> 00:31:31,315 Speaker 1: We'd be delighted. I must ask you, mister fishman, who 497 00:31:31,315 --> 00:31:34,715 Speaker 1: does the news on your program? Is that his real hair? 498 00:31:35,835 --> 00:31:38,955 Speaker 1: She saw my shock at the question. Joe and I 499 00:31:38,995 --> 00:31:41,835 Speaker 1: have often worn wigs, and we can't be certain. That 500 00:31:41,995 --> 00:31:43,675 Speaker 1: means if it is a wig, it's a good one. 501 00:31:45,915 --> 00:31:49,035 Speaker 1: We reached the elevator bank and I pushed down. He 502 00:31:49,115 --> 00:31:52,315 Speaker 1: was walking slowly. He must have had a stroke. Still, 503 00:31:52,315 --> 00:31:54,475 Speaker 1: he was an imposing figure of a man, and not 504 00:31:54,635 --> 00:31:58,315 Speaker 1: just because he was wearing a cape. As I steered 505 00:31:58,355 --> 00:32:00,715 Speaker 1: them away from the subject of our anchorman's to pay 506 00:32:01,075 --> 00:32:03,995 Speaker 1: and talked instead about my Mickey Mantle interview, I realized 507 00:32:03,995 --> 00:32:11,115 Speaker 1: he looked extremely familiar like I knew him. Joseph Carleton 508 00:32:11,715 --> 00:32:15,595 Speaker 1: kept rolling the name over in my mind, and Patricia Carlton, 509 00:32:16,955 --> 00:32:20,555 Speaker 1: who are they? The elevator light went off and a 510 00:32:20,635 --> 00:32:23,595 Speaker 1: very loud bell sounded. The doors opened, and there was 511 00:32:23,635 --> 00:32:26,835 Speaker 1: my producer, Ron and the two man camera crew, and 512 00:32:26,915 --> 00:32:29,355 Speaker 1: the reporter who had been with them on the previous story, 513 00:32:29,595 --> 00:32:32,395 Speaker 1: Sam chu Lynn, who had stayed with him because he 514 00:32:32,475 --> 00:32:35,355 Speaker 1: wanted to meet Mickey Mantle. And as I joked to 515 00:32:35,395 --> 00:32:38,555 Speaker 1: my new friends Joe and Patricia Carlton, oh look, here's 516 00:32:38,595 --> 00:32:42,515 Speaker 1: my camera crew. It's four members made no motion to 517 00:32:42,555 --> 00:32:45,915 Speaker 1: even leave the elevator. They all looked dumb struck. Sam 518 00:32:45,995 --> 00:32:47,955 Speaker 1: chu Lynn's eyes looked like they were about to pop 519 00:32:47,995 --> 00:32:50,115 Speaker 1: out of his head. I assumed this was because my 520 00:32:50,155 --> 00:32:56,275 Speaker 1: new friend Joe was wearing a cape. Finally I got 521 00:32:56,275 --> 00:32:58,395 Speaker 1: the crew to move. I held the door open so 522 00:32:58,515 --> 00:33:01,675 Speaker 1: Joe and Patricia could get into the elevator. I actually said, 523 00:33:01,835 --> 00:33:03,475 Speaker 1: such a pleasure to meet you, and of course, thank 524 00:33:03,515 --> 00:33:05,875 Speaker 1: you so much for watching Channel five News at ten, 525 00:33:06,715 --> 00:33:09,195 Speaker 1: and she smiled warmly, and he managed to quick wave 526 00:33:09,235 --> 00:33:13,475 Speaker 1: and the doors closed. And only at that exact moment 527 00:33:14,035 --> 00:33:17,675 Speaker 1: did it dawn on me where I knew him from 528 00:33:18,875 --> 00:33:22,235 Speaker 1: the blood now drained from my face. As I turned 529 00:33:22,235 --> 00:33:25,915 Speaker 1: to talk to the camera crew and Ron and Sam, Uh, 530 00:33:26,315 --> 00:33:29,995 Speaker 1: you guys knew who those two people were, right, Sam 531 00:33:30,115 --> 00:33:34,115 Speaker 1: laughed at me. Of course he did, didn't you? And 532 00:33:34,195 --> 00:33:36,595 Speaker 1: I sighed, oh my god. She said her name was 533 00:33:36,595 --> 00:33:41,795 Speaker 1: Patricia Carleton and that was her husband, Joseph Carleton. And 534 00:33:41,835 --> 00:33:44,675 Speaker 1: she said it that way because she's British. And that's 535 00:33:44,755 --> 00:33:48,435 Speaker 1: how if you're British you would say the name Cotton. 536 00:33:49,115 --> 00:33:53,875 Speaker 1: She's Patricia Cotton and he's Joseph Cotton, who was in 537 00:33:53,995 --> 00:33:58,475 Speaker 1: Citizen Kane. I remember actually put my hand on the 538 00:33:58,515 --> 00:34:00,635 Speaker 1: law on my face in my other hand. I just 539 00:34:00,715 --> 00:34:05,155 Speaker 1: met Joseph Cotton and I didn't recognize him. The cameraman, 540 00:34:05,275 --> 00:34:08,475 Speaker 1: Martin Klancy, also often said things like this, said pretty 541 00:34:08,475 --> 00:34:12,035 Speaker 1: stupid of you, huh? And I said, no, you have 542 00:34:12,115 --> 00:34:15,355 Speaker 1: no idea how stupid. I mean, obviously I know who 543 00:34:15,435 --> 00:34:19,635 Speaker 1: Joseph Cotton is. And Sam Chulin said, are you sure 544 00:34:19,675 --> 00:34:22,395 Speaker 1: about that? I gave him a dirty look and I said, no, 545 00:34:22,435 --> 00:34:26,515 Speaker 1: it's worse than this. In nineteen forty eight, the president 546 00:34:26,555 --> 00:34:30,835 Speaker 1: of the International Joseph Cotton Fan Club was my mother. 547 00:34:31,555 --> 00:34:34,835 Speaker 1: There is a picture of that man with my mother 548 00:34:35,715 --> 00:34:39,755 Speaker 1: from like thirty seven years ago at the Stork Club. 549 00:34:41,995 --> 00:34:46,235 Speaker 1: They all laughed. Then Sam Chulin said, in that photo, 550 00:34:46,315 --> 00:34:52,755 Speaker 1: is he wearing that cape? My gaff did serve to 551 00:34:52,795 --> 00:34:57,515 Speaker 1: relax me a little for the interview with Mantle. My gaff. 552 00:34:58,635 --> 00:35:02,355 Speaker 1: When I get over it, i'll let you know. So anyway, 553 00:35:02,395 --> 00:35:04,875 Speaker 1: we all reached room eight ninety seven or whatever it 554 00:35:04,955 --> 00:35:07,995 Speaker 1: was in the new Wing the Beverly Wilshire, and as 555 00:35:08,035 --> 00:35:09,955 Speaker 1: the crew set up, I managed to tell the story 556 00:35:09,955 --> 00:35:13,035 Speaker 1: of the Cottons to Mickey Mantle and he said, yeah, 557 00:35:13,075 --> 00:35:14,915 Speaker 1: I saw them in the lobby a couple hours ago. 558 00:35:15,115 --> 00:35:17,395 Speaker 1: He's a great actor. I met him in New York, 559 00:35:17,555 --> 00:35:20,835 Speaker 1: must be thirty years ago. Did you say hi? Oh right, 560 00:35:20,875 --> 00:35:24,235 Speaker 1: you just told me you didn't recognize him. Mickey Mantle 561 00:35:24,275 --> 00:35:27,875 Speaker 1: was busting my chops, as I said. I had met 562 00:35:27,915 --> 00:35:29,995 Speaker 1: him before, even interviewed him before, but this was our 563 00:35:30,035 --> 00:35:32,275 Speaker 1: first sit down and he was in a good mood, 564 00:35:32,315 --> 00:35:36,155 Speaker 1: even expansive and playful, and at one point he stunned me. 565 00:35:36,875 --> 00:35:38,195 Speaker 1: I said, I know you only have a couple of 566 00:35:38,195 --> 00:35:40,515 Speaker 1: minutes left, so forgive me if I'm bringing up something 567 00:35:40,555 --> 00:35:41,835 Speaker 1: that takes more than a couple of minutes, and he 568 00:35:41,875 --> 00:35:44,235 Speaker 1: interrupted and he said, take as much time as you need. 569 00:35:44,275 --> 00:35:48,235 Speaker 1: I'm enjoying us talking. So I asked him about this 570 00:35:48,315 --> 00:35:51,035 Speaker 1: one subject, how he felt about what he did in 571 00:35:51,075 --> 00:35:54,955 Speaker 1: his career considering how injured he was. When he retired. 572 00:35:54,995 --> 00:35:57,635 Speaker 1: Mickey Mantle was third all time in homers. He hit 573 00:35:57,675 --> 00:36:00,595 Speaker 1: three hundred ten times. He played in twelve World Series 574 00:36:00,795 --> 00:36:05,955 Speaker 1: on one bad knee and one worse knee. Mantle got 575 00:36:06,075 --> 00:36:10,635 Speaker 1: very reflective and self critical. We use this SoundBite at 576 00:36:10,635 --> 00:36:12,835 Speaker 1: the end of his obituary that I would do for 577 00:36:13,115 --> 00:36:16,515 Speaker 1: ESPN a decade later. If I'd known I was going 578 00:36:16,555 --> 00:36:18,395 Speaker 1: to live so long, he told me, I would have 579 00:36:18,435 --> 00:36:22,515 Speaker 1: taken better care of myself and done better. I said, well, 580 00:36:22,715 --> 00:36:28,715 Speaker 1: he'd done pretty good. I could have done better. I 581 00:36:28,795 --> 00:36:30,915 Speaker 1: thanked him. Then, as the cameraman moved to get the 582 00:36:30,955 --> 00:36:33,275 Speaker 1: shots of me nodding and repeating a question or two, 583 00:36:33,475 --> 00:36:39,235 Speaker 1: Mickey Mantle said that was really good. I flushed. I 584 00:36:39,275 --> 00:36:42,035 Speaker 1: got to ask you something. Can you give me some pointers? 585 00:36:43,675 --> 00:36:46,995 Speaker 1: I suddenly had no idea what the word pointers meant? Pointers? 586 00:36:47,155 --> 00:36:50,475 Speaker 1: What are pointers? Mantle said he was going to do 587 00:36:50,515 --> 00:36:52,555 Speaker 1: some Yankee games the next year on cable with Mel 588 00:36:52,675 --> 00:36:56,075 Speaker 1: Allen I'm doing interviews after games. I'm no damn good 589 00:36:56,115 --> 00:36:59,715 Speaker 1: at interviews. Just now, you were moving from topics to topics, 590 00:36:59,795 --> 00:37:02,675 Speaker 1: so smooth, Hew, you keep all the questions in your 591 00:37:02,715 --> 00:37:06,115 Speaker 1: head now, I laughed. I didn't keep them in my head. 592 00:37:06,155 --> 00:37:08,555 Speaker 1: Didn't you see my cheat card? And he laughed and 593 00:37:08,595 --> 00:37:09,995 Speaker 1: he said no, And I showed it to him. I said, 594 00:37:09,995 --> 00:37:13,315 Speaker 1: it's just a business card with like seven keywords written 595 00:37:13,315 --> 00:37:15,395 Speaker 1: on the back. If I think i might freeze up 596 00:37:15,435 --> 00:37:19,075 Speaker 1: because I'm nervous because I'm interviewing Mickey Mantle, or I 597 00:37:19,195 --> 00:37:21,835 Speaker 1: just met Joseph Cotton and I didn't recognize him, I 598 00:37:21,915 --> 00:37:24,475 Speaker 1: make one of these cards. I hide it in the 599 00:37:24,515 --> 00:37:27,595 Speaker 1: palm of my hand, and if I get stuck, I 600 00:37:27,595 --> 00:37:29,675 Speaker 1: could just look down quickly and see one of the words, 601 00:37:29,715 --> 00:37:31,155 Speaker 1: and I've got the question. I've got this card to 602 00:37:31,195 --> 00:37:36,115 Speaker 1: remind me. Mickey Mantle's eyes glowed. But wait, he said, 603 00:37:36,795 --> 00:37:39,995 Speaker 1: we're using these mics, and he pointed to the clip 604 00:37:40,035 --> 00:37:42,515 Speaker 1: on on his shirt, so you don't have to hold mike. 605 00:37:42,555 --> 00:37:44,035 Speaker 1: What do you do if you have to hold the 606 00:37:44,075 --> 00:37:47,075 Speaker 1: mic like I'll have to in an interview after a ballgame. 607 00:37:47,075 --> 00:37:49,155 Speaker 1: What if the card would fall out or you have 608 00:37:49,235 --> 00:37:51,555 Speaker 1: to shake hands with the player, and I said, well, 609 00:37:51,675 --> 00:37:55,155 Speaker 1: just write the words on your hand whichever hand is 610 00:37:55,195 --> 00:38:00,155 Speaker 1: holding the mic, like below the thumb. Mickey Mantle looked 611 00:38:00,155 --> 00:38:01,715 Speaker 1: at me as if I had just given him the 612 00:38:01,755 --> 00:38:05,915 Speaker 1: secret of eternal life. Wow, he said, that's great, I'm 613 00:38:05,915 --> 00:38:08,875 Speaker 1: going to write this down. Thanks, and we were packed up, 614 00:38:08,875 --> 00:38:11,275 Speaker 1: and he actually walked me to the hotel room door 615 00:38:11,435 --> 00:38:15,435 Speaker 1: and gave me a double handed handshake. So it had 616 00:38:15,475 --> 00:38:18,315 Speaker 1: been a big day, even if I didn't realize it 617 00:38:18,355 --> 00:38:22,395 Speaker 1: was Joseph Cotton. Mickey Mantle had asked me for advice 618 00:38:23,115 --> 00:38:26,675 Speaker 1: about anything. Somehow I had thought of something to tell him, 619 00:38:26,835 --> 00:38:31,435 Speaker 1: and he was really happy about the advice, and of 620 00:38:31,475 --> 00:38:34,475 Speaker 1: course this provided a punchline. The following spring, we were 621 00:38:34,515 --> 00:38:37,435 Speaker 1: in the studios at KTLA, watching on the satellite feed 622 00:38:37,475 --> 00:38:39,955 Speaker 1: as the Yankees first cable telecast of the nineteen eighty 623 00:38:39,955 --> 00:38:42,235 Speaker 1: six season ended, and sure enough they threw it down 624 00:38:42,235 --> 00:38:44,395 Speaker 1: to Mickey Mantle on the field interviewing some player, and 625 00:38:44,395 --> 00:38:46,595 Speaker 1: one of my producers said, oh, let's see if he 626 00:38:46,635 --> 00:38:48,875 Speaker 1: remembers the lesson you gave him, and another one said, 627 00:38:48,955 --> 00:38:51,555 Speaker 1: here's your student, Mickey Mantle, And sure enough, after the 628 00:38:51,555 --> 00:38:55,315 Speaker 1: first answer, Mickey Mantle pauses, and I know he can't 629 00:38:55,315 --> 00:38:57,715 Speaker 1: remember what he wanted to ask next, And sure enough 630 00:38:57,755 --> 00:39:00,275 Speaker 1: I see him cheat his look down slightly towards the 631 00:39:00,315 --> 00:39:02,875 Speaker 1: hand holding the microphone, and the next thing I see 632 00:39:03,115 --> 00:39:07,515 Speaker 1: he's kind of tilted the microphone sideways and he's asking 633 00:39:07,635 --> 00:39:11,915 Speaker 1: the question. But you can barely hear him because the 634 00:39:11,995 --> 00:39:15,395 Speaker 1: mic is pointing off at a forty five degree angle, 635 00:39:15,555 --> 00:39:20,675 Speaker 1: because he has written his key reminder words not below 636 00:39:21,115 --> 00:39:25,115 Speaker 1: the thumb on the outside part of his hand, but 637 00:39:25,235 --> 00:39:28,435 Speaker 1: on the palm side of his hand, and he's had 638 00:39:28,435 --> 00:39:30,635 Speaker 1: to move the mic out of the way to read 639 00:39:30,675 --> 00:39:32,555 Speaker 1: the words on the palm of his hand. And the 640 00:39:32,595 --> 00:39:37,515 Speaker 1: producer says, ha ha, Well, now Mickey Mantle hates you. 641 00:39:51,275 --> 00:39:53,075 Speaker 1: I've done all the damage I can do here. Thank 642 00:39:53,115 --> 00:39:54,995 Speaker 1: you for listening. Here are the credits. Most of the 643 00:39:55,075 --> 00:39:57,915 Speaker 1: music was arranged, produced and performed by Brian Ray and 644 00:39:57,995 --> 00:40:02,195 Speaker 1: John Phillip Chanel The Countdown musical directors guitars Mason, drums 645 00:40:02,195 --> 00:40:05,355 Speaker 1: by Brian Ray, All, orchestration in keyboard words by John 646 00:40:05,355 --> 00:40:09,395 Speaker 1: Phillip Schaneil, and it was produced by TKO Brothers, John, 647 00:40:09,435 --> 00:40:12,115 Speaker 1: Brian and Me. Other Beethoven selections have been arranged and 648 00:40:12,155 --> 00:40:15,195 Speaker 1: performed by the group No Horns Allowed. The sports music 649 00:40:15,315 --> 00:40:18,235 Speaker 1: is the Olberman theme from ESPN two. It was written 650 00:40:18,275 --> 00:40:22,275 Speaker 1: by Mitch Warren Davis, appearing courtesy of ESPN, Inc. Musical 651 00:40:22,275 --> 00:40:25,235 Speaker 1: comments from Nancy Faust, the best baseball stadium organist ever. 652 00:40:25,475 --> 00:40:28,035 Speaker 1: Our announcer today was my friend Larry David, and everything 653 00:40:28,035 --> 00:40:31,715 Speaker 1: else was pretty much my fault. So that's countdown for this, 654 00:40:31,755 --> 00:40:34,715 Speaker 1: the eight hundred and ninety seventh day since Donald Trump's 655 00:40:34,715 --> 00:40:37,315 Speaker 1: first attempted coup against the democratically elected government of the 656 00:40:37,435 --> 00:40:41,355 Speaker 1: United States. Arrest him again while we still can. The 657 00:40:41,395 --> 00:40:44,555 Speaker 1: next scheduled countdown is tomorrow. Until then, I'm Keith Olberman. 658 00:40:44,595 --> 00:40:47,795 Speaker 1: Good morning, good afternoon, good night, and good luck. 659 00:40:54,195 --> 00:40:57,555 Speaker 2: Twenty percent JFK Junior, who's a very nice person. I 660 00:40:57,595 --> 00:40:58,435 Speaker 2: know him very well. 661 00:40:58,555 --> 00:41:02,515 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. For 662 00:41:02,715 --> 00:41:07,755 Speaker 1: more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 663 00:41:07,875 --> 00:41:09,835 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts.