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Speaker 2: this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat back like a bad habit on

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Speaker 1: the second of August twenty twenty one. It's your favorite podcast.

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Speaker 1: It's the only podcast that you really need. We can

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Speaker 1: just be honest with you. It's Morning Combat. Hello everyone,

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Speaker 1: I'm merely won half of your hosting duo. I come

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Speaker 1: to you live from the capital of Lost as Nitos

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Speaker 1: here in Washington, d C. My name is Luke Thomas,

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Speaker 1: and I'm joined by Royalty on the right side of

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Speaker 1: It's Brian Campbell, who also has I guess aids. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what's going on.

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Speaker 2: How are wu Han got your haul in check? Are there?

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Speaker 2: I hope everyone out there is healthy and good. Luke,

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Speaker 2: not just because a star was born over the weekend

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Speaker 2: at Belatore two sixty three. But you know it's Monday, Luke.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's fire the people up. Let's let them realize

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Speaker 2: the sun will shine and MK's there for you. We're

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Speaker 2: ready to lift your spirits, talk some combat, and continue

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Speaker 2: to brainwash you MK ultra style. I'll let you know

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Speaker 2: that we're your friends for life. We're the only two

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Speaker 1: All right, that's it your two dads.

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Speaker 2: Dads, great show, Great show, Stacy Keenan, Greg uh, Greg Evigan,

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Speaker 1: Show, Luke. Okay, so that's us for today.

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Speaker 2: One young Luke. You remember that theme song you can

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Speaker 1: We give you guys a post Belatore two sixty three

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Speaker 2: Absolutely? Not only recap the uh the biggest fight in

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Speaker 2: this show, but a very fuck Look, you gotta say this, Luke.

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Speaker 2: We're not getting into the analysis now, but you got

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Speaker 2: That's my biggest takeaway that this isn't just a great

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Speaker 1: I will say this, I think that it's not a

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Speaker 1: I mean mckid.

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Speaker 2: just like Aldo McGregor, what the fight really was gonna

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Speaker 1: Ah, I mean in terms of like rematches, which we'll

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Speaker 1: and I concluded the same which was, Okay, this was

430
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Speaker 1: a I mean, everything about this was amazing, But we

431
00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,320
Speaker 1: still don't know what it looks like if AJ McKee

432
00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,560
Speaker 1: is tired from somebody just wrestling him to the ground

433
00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,000
Speaker 1: for four rounds and avoiding submissions. We don't know what

434
00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:42,800
Speaker 1: it's like if he gets you know, poked in the

435
00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,679
Speaker 1: eye and can't see but the fight continues, or he

436
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,639
Speaker 1: gets hurt with a really bad body shot or separates

437
00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:49,560
Speaker 1: his rib or breaks his hand or whatever. What kind

438
00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,480
Speaker 1: of magic are you able to like provide when those

439
00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,840
Speaker 1: kinds of bad things happen. We've seen people overcome some

440
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,440
Speaker 1: of those things time to time, which is to say

441
00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,879
Speaker 1: that Aj can't. It's just there are still a lot

442
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Speaker 1: of unknowns. So what I think is going to happen

443
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 1: here is Aj has got a series of difficult challenges

444
00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,360
Speaker 1: in front of him. We'll see what he does. Pittbull's

445
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,160
Speaker 1: got some work to do to get back to get

446
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,159
Speaker 1: back his brand now. The one difference betwe him and

447
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,119
Speaker 1: Jose Aldo BC is he is still the one fifty

448
00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,119
Speaker 1: five pounds champ. I want to talk about that in

449
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 1: just a second, but let me ask a different question

450
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:21,920
Speaker 1: back to you. Everything about aj McKee's success is attributed

451
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 1: to him. But he's got a partner, and that partner

452
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 1: has been and is now only ever been Bellator. Can

453
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,280
Speaker 1: they keep him long term? It's I know, I know

454
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 1: it's folks don't want to have that conversation, but I

455
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 1: don't think it's out of bounds. I think it's fair.

456
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:42,439
Speaker 1: Maybe they can, maybe it's even the likeliest possibility, but

457
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Speaker 1: we're allowed to have this conversation. Do you think they

458
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Speaker 1: can do it?

459
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Speaker 2: Well? I think that the better question is how do

460
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Speaker 2: they do it? Okay? And you look, here's one thing

461
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Speaker 2: I want to just put out there. Okay, any time

462
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 2: I've Askedcott Kolacher or I've heard him ast about competing

463
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Speaker 2: directly with the UFC, it's the same thing in pro wrestling.

464
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 2: When a where New Japan gets asked about competing with

465
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,399
Speaker 2: ww everybody's got the same answer of, oh, no, we're

466
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 2: not competing against them, We're just doing our own thing

467
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 2: and staying in our lane. And look, to me, that's

468
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 2: that's bullshit, right, because when you go into this game

469
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,199
Speaker 2: to be the best, and everybody else is comparing you

470
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,119
Speaker 2: against them, so you are competing. So they've got a

471
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Speaker 2: they got something big on their hands in belts or

472
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Speaker 2: with AJ McKee. Now you gotta you gotta feed them.

473
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 2: You gotta feed him a few different things. You gotta

474
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:26,880
Speaker 2: feed them money first and foremost, you gotta feed him crossover,

475
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,359
Speaker 2: big opportunities. And I thought from that degree, Scott Coker

476
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 2: in the post fight press conference had largely the right answers.

477
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,359
Speaker 2: Look what Scott Coker talked about is he wants to

478
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Speaker 2: get him out to the masses, meaning AJ McKee.

479
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Speaker 4: So he wants to put him.

480
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Speaker 2: On big CBS in fights, which Luke, Strikeforce is the

481
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Speaker 2: comparison here with Strikeforce put fad Or and before that

482
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 2: Elite XC put Kimbo. I mean the masses different time

483
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 2: with TV ratings before streaming and all that, but the

484
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 2: massive showed up on CBS. The masses did and it worked.

485
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Speaker 2: I like that idea from Coker. Let's put him on CBS.

486
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Speaker 2: This is the right guy to do that. Let's Cooker

487
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 2: even said let's consider pay per view. So that's good.

488
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 2: But I think the key thing is what Aj said, Luke,

489
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 2: because look he was asking the postfight press conference a

490
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 2: lot about you know, how do you think you stack

491
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Speaker 2: up against the best featherweights in the world, and inevitably

492
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,679
Speaker 2: you're talking about Max Holloway, Brian Ortega and you know,

493
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,120
Speaker 2: in Volkanovsky. So like, that's just what it is, right,

494
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 2: AJ gave the kind of answer that that basically teased

495
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 2: to like, he wants to change the game, he said,

496
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Speaker 2: And what he's meaning is he wants to face these

497
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Speaker 2: guys in sort of big cross promotional things that we

498
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 2: just don't see in today's MMA. Right, we got enough

499
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 2: of those issues in boxing where the biggest promoters and

500
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 2: rival networks barely ever come together unless it's like Mayweather

501
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 2: Pakia or Wilder Fury. Luke, it sounds like AJ is

502
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 2: basically saying, I'm willing to Now this is me paraphrasing,

503
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,679
Speaker 2: this is me putting my own two cents into his words,

504
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 2: but it sounded to me like he was saying, you know,

505
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 2: long term, I'm gonna want to fight these guys and

506
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 2: I want to change the format, you know, and that's

507
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 2: gonna mean, Luke, some type of cross promotional thing. Strikeforce

508
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 2: did it in the past with m One to be

509
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 2: able to get fad Or. UFC famously said hey, hey

510
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 2: the dummy, you know, go pound sand brother. We don't

511
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,919
Speaker 2: do that here, Luke, do you think it's as simple

512
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 2: as this. You can pay them all you want. You

513
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 2: can put them on pay per V, you can put

514
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Speaker 2: them on big CBS. You can get big ratings.

515
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 4: You can make this.

516
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 2: Kid a star, you can get him endorsements. All that

517
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,119
Speaker 2: stuff will help keep him happy, keep looking out for

518
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 2: good opponents. You can crop up and build up to

519
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 2: face him. But will Scott have to find a way

520
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 2: to make to do the impossible, to make the long

521
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 2: term super fight against other promotions to actually keep him

522
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Speaker 2: and keep him happy.

523
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Speaker 1: Luke, Well, they might keep him, but not because they're

524
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 1: gonna change the game. There is no change in the game,

525
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 1: at least not by their own actions. What do I

526
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 1: mean by that? Listen, part of the reason why the

527
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 1: UFC is in such an advantageous position. And everyone's like, oh,

528
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,639
Speaker 1: if you don't like what UFC does, just go do

529
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: your own. But the argument is total nonsense because there's

530
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 1: a finite amount of elite fighters in the world, and

531
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Speaker 1: if they have access to the majority of them, let's

532
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,199
Speaker 1: say eighty percent or so, give or take, and they

533
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 1: got them under onerous contracts where they're very, very hard

534
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 1: to get out of it takes time and whatever. You know,

535
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 1: there's a lot of different sort of elements to it.

536
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: It makes any kind of rival promotion not just difficult

537
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 1: but technically impossible. That you can do other things. You

538
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,239
Speaker 1: can change the rule set, you can get your own

539
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 1: collection of elite talent. You can do what you do

540
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: with aj McKee, Start them young, build them up through

541
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Speaker 1: all the various stages until they get to the most

542
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 1: elite side. And again that's a unique advantage belt Or has.

543
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 1: But no, AJ might be right in the sense that

544
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Speaker 1: by the time he wants some big fights, maybe the

545
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 1: ALI Act gets passed. Maybe there's a change and that

546
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 1: in the industry in that sense, But no one's gonna

547
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 1: make UFC do something that they've never ever shown interest

548
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: in doing, and frankly and under the in their minds anyway,

549
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 1: would be bad for business. The one thing that I

550
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 1: will say that I find very interesting, as short of

551
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: the Aliact getting past or whatever, is listen, you know,

552
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 1: you got to think about something here. There's a new

553
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 1: generation of fighters, and I still think push comes to shove.

554
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 1: They don't unionize on their own, but I do think

555
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: that these guys who are twenty something, you know twenty

556
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,159
Speaker 1: four to twenty five. I think AJ's twenty six. I

557
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 1: think they see a couple of things BC. I think

558
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 1: they see the evidence about fighter pay, and they realize

559
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 1: that there probably could be a lot more coming their

560
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,640
Speaker 1: way under different circumstances. And if you think about who

561
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: Jake Paul is, Jake Paul is not AJ's Pierre as

562
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: a fighter, not even close. But they are what twenty

563
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: four or so twenty five versus twenty six. One's obviously

564
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 1: a bigger star than the other. But you see a

565
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: guy like Jake Paul out there making a point continuously

566
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 1: about pay, continuously about fighter wrights. I think a guy

567
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: like AJ McKee probably absorbs. He's not dumb at all.

568
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,199
Speaker 1: I think he absorbs a lot of these lessons. I

569
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 1: think he might try box, either the Paul brother or

570
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: something else. He might try clever workarounds and whatnot. And

571
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 1: I think that lift. They kept Michael Chandler until thirty

572
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: four years of age, So the answer was, oh, could

573
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: belt or keep Michael Chandler? Well, technically no, BC, but

574
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 1: they got the very best out of him. Basically, they

575
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: got many, many years, many many great fights. By the

576
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: time he went to the UFC. I'm not saying it

577
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 1: was immaterial, but it wasn't like they were getting robbed

578
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 1: per se. You might find something similar one of those

579
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 1: different paths for AJ McKee.

580
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 2: It's interesting, and Scott Coker did say, you know exactly

581
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 2: what you said that you know maybe down the road,

582
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 2: boxing those Paul brothers is.

583
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 4: Is something that could be in the cards.

584
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 2: AJ said he did want to box Heck, he said

585
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 2: he wanted to box Mayweather. Not something I see happening,

586
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 2: but he did say it. Luke, how big and I'm

587
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 2: not talking commercially, I'm talking size and weight class.

588
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 4: AJ's huge for this featherweight division.

589
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 2: He said in the postfight press conference to that unless basically,

590
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 2: unless there's a giant fight, he actually might be done

591
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 2: at one forty five. And we already know his want

592
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 2: to go up to one fifty five and run it

593
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 2: back with Pitbull and try to become a champ champ.

594
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 2: But how big do you think he can go and

595
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 2: wait and still be effective given that he does have

596
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 2: this very long frame.

597
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: Sorry, my alarm's going off because I didn't sleep last

598
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 1: night and I don't know what the hell's happening. I

599
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: think he can easily go to one fifty five. I

600
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: don't think the one fit. Also, got to remember the

601
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: one fifty five division isn't nearly as good as the

602
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,239
Speaker 1: one forty, Like the one forty five division is of

603
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 1: one thirty five, one five and one to fifty five.

604
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 1: So let's say, like, well, I guess they had one

605
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: twenty five two. No, no, they didn't. They didn't at first.

606
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 1: So I guess of old w E C weights right,

607
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: one thirty five to one forty five and one to

608
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,239
Speaker 1: fifty five. Obviously they had more than that, but at

609
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: a time they just had those three. Uh, one forty

610
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: five is the best far and away, like not even close.

611
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 1: So I think he could go. And honestly, whether it's

612
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: against Patricio or his brother or frankly anybody else, I

613
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: like AJ's chances to win that title up there too. Man.

614
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: I really think he can go, and I don't know

615
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: if he can maintain injury free life with enough frequency

616
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: to defend both titles BC. But you're asking, like, does

617
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: this guy have double champ potential? I want to say easily.

618
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 4: I actually wasn't asking that.

619
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 2: I almost felt that was a given, not a given,

620
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 2: that he would win at that weight class, but a

621
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 2: given that he could compete and potentially be a favorite,

622
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 2: you know, and be there and compete at fifty five,

623
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 2: it's not that much larger than forty five.

624
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 4: He's already big for the weight class.

625
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 2: I'm talking about welterweight long term loop, do you think that?

626
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 2: Do you think he has the body? I think he's

627
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 2: got the skill set and the speed. Do you think

628
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 2: he has the body long term for the right fight

629
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:29,959
Speaker 2: for that?

630
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: No? But I will say this another dude again, he's

631
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 1: twenty six. By the time he's thirty four, Right, what's

632
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: MMA going to look like? I don't think it's out

633
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: of the realm of possibility. You could get a one

634
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 1: sixty five pound weight class, and then you could push

635
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: all the guys who are true welterweights up to one

636
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: seventy five And is there some possibility there? Now we're

637
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: getting little bitead of ourselves with this because the guy

638
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: just won the featherweight crown. But to your point, like, yes,

639
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: there are some ways. I think MMA, by the time

640
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:00,959
Speaker 1: AJ has done is going look a lot different than

641
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: when he got in it. I really do. Whether that's

642
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: part of it or not, that is something we should

643
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: take seriously. But at one fifty five, yeah, I think

644
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: he's gonna be I think he's gonna do extremely well.

645
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: Even with the caveat of we still don't know a

646
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: lot about some of his limits. We know a lot

647
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: about his upside, we don't know a lot about some

648
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: of his down.

649
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 2: And Look, that's why I think the McGregor Aldo comparison

650
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 2: is so app because we still didn't know what that

651
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 2: fight would have looked like if it went more than

652
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 2: thirteen seconds. At that point, we still didn't know what

653
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 2: Connor would have done against a wrestler in a full camp.

654
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 2: I said, coming into this fight, we and AJ doesn't

655
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 2: know how great AJ can be. Now, he disagreed with

656
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 2: that when I asked it to his face, but I

657
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 2: still think that's where it's at, Luke. We don't know

658
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 2: how great he can be. Is he just a dynamic,

659
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 2: flashy striker who's land in the hits one after another,

660
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 2: or does he have all those same intangibles that will

661
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 2: be needed that you mentioned, the ability to come back

662
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 2: on the scorecards, to fight through damage. It's gonna be

663
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 2: a fun ride finding that out, all right.

664
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: So point number two, we kind of alluded to it

665
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,239
Speaker 1: here a little bit, BC, But let's play matchmaker if

666
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: we can. All right, So pit Bull still has a

667
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: championship belt at one fifty five, although obviously not at

668
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: one forty five anymore. You have a new champion, AJ

669
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: McKee at one forty five. There were some questions about

670
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: where they go from here. So for point number two, BC,

671
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: simple kind of question. If you are belator, how do

672
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: you match make aj McKee? You know, it's it's interesting

673
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: in terms of the possibilities. But hello, Patricio is not done.

674
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: He still holds a belt. He still might want to

675
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: get his belt back. What do you do with these guys?

676
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 4: I think you have to build on the momentum of

677
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 4: this fight.

678
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 2: I think you have to play up as a positive,

679
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 2: the fact that the fight was so sure, the fact

680
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 2: that just maybe, just maybe the stoppage was disputable to again,

681
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 2: you know, retain heat for pit Bull. He's still, you know,

682
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 2: was the face of the franchise coming in with all

683
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 2: those accolades. You have to match these guys up against

684
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 2: each other within the next year.

685
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 4: Does it have to be next?

686
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 2: Not necessarily. You could convince Aja to defend his title.

687
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 2: And by the way, Luke, you know, someone like MADD's

688
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 2: Burnell looked. I thought great in that Colmyne event, A

689
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 2: very close fight against Emmanuel Sanchez, a former two time

690
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 2: title contender where he's on a seven fight win streak.

691
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 2: I wouldn't hate that fight. Does that mean you want

692
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 2: to give pipull a comeback fight. There's a lot of

693
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 2: things you can do here, But if Pipple's intentions are

694
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 2: to hold and defend that lightweight title and not, let's

695
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 2: say give it up for to give his brother, who's

696
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 2: the number one contender, a chance, then it just makes

697
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 2: too much sense that you would run them back against

698
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 2: each other when the next year and you would do

699
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 2: it for that lightweight title. Giving Aj a chance to

700
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 2: carry the two belts on his shoulders, I think is

701
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 2: something that you talk about keeping a young star happy.

702
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 2: I think that's a you know, he's talked about that forever.

703
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 2: He claims, long before Connor was Champ Champ, I was

704
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 2: the guy saying and I mean, look to AJ's credit, Luke,

705
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 2: He's been saying a lot of things for a long time.

706
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 2: It's just he hadn't had the resume and credibility for

707
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 2: a lot of people to listen. So I yes, I

708
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 2: think the rematch that lightweight is the fight to make

709
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 2: for all we know. Again, not dissimilar to let's say

710
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 2: you want a young j Check against rosenama Unis Part

711
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 2: one was a smashing part two, five round classic title fight.

712
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 2: For all we know, This rematch Luke could be that

713
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 2: same exact thing. And can you imagine if Pipple should

714
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 2: win that rematch, then you've got a trilogy maybe even more,

715
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 2: on your hands for these two. So I would not

716
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 2: go veer any anywhere away from getting these two back together.

717
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: Also that you have some real potential about this guy's

718
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: ability to king make if you let's say you went

719
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: the route of Pitbull versus AJ McKee two of at

720
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: one fifty five. Let's say AJ wins tougher fight, but

721
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: whatever still gets his hand raised. I mean, you still

722
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,719
Speaker 1: have to confront a future BC. And I was gonna say,

723
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: I'll save most of this for my odds and ends,

724
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: But dude, Usman Nimberkameidov is a one to fifty fiver,

725
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And he is coming down

726
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: the pike like a fucking freight train, and you know

727
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: you've already got Habib cornering him. As you pointed out

728
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: on Saturday night and well and wearing the Bellator swag

729
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: and everything else. Whether it's intentional or not. That dude's

730
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: coming and there's a lot of other guys right behind him,

731
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: so it's like, uh, you have a chance of potentially

732
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 1: having aj and a number Gameydov fight. I mean that,

733
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 1: you know, you're sort of the royal family, so to

734
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: speak of Russian mma versus the American I don't know

735
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: equivalent exactly, but you know, father son father son kind

736
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 1: of dynamic, although Usman is obviously a cousin in any case,

737
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 1: there's some ways you could do that. I actually think

738
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: you're going to keep him at one forty five. If

739
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: I'm Cocher, you could do the immediate rematch, but then

740
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: he has to defend those and what happens at one

741
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: forty five I don't know, but you know whatever, if

742
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: you stay at one fifty five, you see, here's the

743
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: only downside. You've got to confront the fact that you've

744
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: got Gadzi Robotanov and Usman Nimbergamaydov and Kasan mega Mencheripov

745
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: with their sites set on that. And I have a

746
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 1: feeling that one of them three is gonna win it.

747
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 2: Do you think young Aaron Pico ever faces AJ McKee

748
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 2: for the belt or featherweight title, that'd be a marketable.

749
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 1: Fight, super marketable. But he he needs still some time

750
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: and development. Everyone develops at different rates in different ways.

751
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: You know, AJ got the proper development, the proper slower

752
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: push along the way. They shoved fucking Aaron Pico to

753
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: the front of the line, and obviously he stumbled as

754
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: a consequence. But I feel like he's really rounding out

755
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 1: his skill set. I think he's getting a lot better.

756
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: So we'll see.

757
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 2: You have to say, Luke, you and I don't love

758
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 2: the idea that in MMA everyone's endgame is still to

759
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 2: go over to boxing, usually to sell their soul in

760
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 2: a fight they can't win. You and I talk about

761
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 2: that all the time. That's a broken system. Sometimes it

762
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 2: has to do with the fighter pay model, especially in

763
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 2: the UFC, but it is what it is. But if

764
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 2: your AJ, you could be in a far worse place

765
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,439
Speaker 2: than be with Showtime, which has the Bellator contract, has

766
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 2: Showtime Championship Boxing and also is in the Celebrity Crossover

767
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 2: pay per view boxing game. So look, I mean, do

768
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 2: I want to see him against a Paul Brother, not necessarily,

769
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 2: but you know, there is potential fun things you can do,

770
00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:59,959
Speaker 2: just like we thought it was gonna happen with MVP.

771
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 2: Remember MVP took that boxing pro one off and he

772
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 2: looked pretty good, and we're like, oh, maybe long term

773
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 2: they do something there. So there is things you can

774
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 2: do to get creative. I'm just trying to think long

775
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 2: term marketable wise, who are the names. That's why I

776
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 2: brought out welterweight. What if Dylan Danis can become something?

777
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 1: Luke?

778
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 2: Is that a fight you can make one day? I'm

779
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 2: trying to think in the belt or roster creatively, who

780
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 2: are we not thinking of? But you know, look, this

781
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 2: is one fight, one victory. You gotta keep winning, so

782
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 2: we'll see what happens. Let's let's take it one step

783
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 2: at the time.

784
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think got mackam A Cheripov listened at a featherweight

785
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: though I'm told he can go to one fifty five

786
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: if he wants to. But yeah, listen, I think they're

787
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: probably gonna have Usman Nimberga made off maybe fight Guichiyamuchi

788
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,439
Speaker 1: who both had nice big wins on this car, because

789
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 1: that what they would match up really well. They both

790
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: have to strike it out and if it goes to

791
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: the ground, they both have different skill sets there. That

792
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: could be a lot of fun. But do that guy

793
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: is not far one of them too, but most likely

794
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: usman is not far from a title shot one fifty

795
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: five and I think you know, you want to be

796
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: careful about you know, is aj competitive against them? I

797
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: think he very competitive against them. But the question is

798
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 1: what do you want to do with that long term?

799
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: And you just got him in this major celebratory moment.

800
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: Do you want to risk having that run over for

801
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: a guy who was an incredible fighter but maybe not

802
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: a dynamo and the mic and everything else, Like at

803
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: Pitbull out a bare minimum was poking the bear with

804
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 1: snoop dogg Husmin number made. I ain't that guy, so

805
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: something to think about. All right, let's get to some

806
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: UFC if we can. BC point number three, Man, this

807
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 1: was hard to watch. I was kind of watching it

808
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: out of the corner of my eye when the Beltmorre

809
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: fights were going on, so I revisited it later. Geez,

810
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: it just felt like he was fighting underwater. BC Ryah

811
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: Hall was soundly defeated by Sean Strickland. Now it went

812
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: the full distance, don't misunderstand it. And there were definite

813
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: moments where you could tell you yah, Hall was trying

814
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 1: to push back. He was trying to will himself in there.

815
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 1: He didn't quit, you know. And again there were pronounced

816
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 1: moments of trying to put it back on Sean Strickland,

817
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: but really it was not a lot. It was mostly

818
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: Sean Strickland backing him up, landing heavy volume, occasionally getting takedowns,

819
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 1: working from turtle beating him up. BC is the story

820
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: of the fight how well Sean Strickland performed, or is

821
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: the story of the fight how poorly Hall performed.

822
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 2: This is about Sean Strickland, Luca in the end. Look,

823
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 2: this was R. I. Hall's thirty seventh birthday, and you

824
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 2: know he wasn't coming in as damage goods. He won

825
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 2: four in a row, you know, questionable maybe on the

826
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 2: last two of the overall value against injured veterans or

827
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 2: old veterans.

828
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 4: But look Hall.

829
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 2: Was was trying to get one final stand here and

830
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 2: Strickland beats the brakes off him. Look, this is the

831
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 2: food chain, the life cycle of combat sports. You know,

832
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,919
Speaker 2: veterans giving way to the youth on the way up.

833
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 2: Strickland came out there and his boxing was phenomenal, But

834
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 2: lou look at was that power jab your ry. Hall

835
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 2: was squinting very early from the power of just every

836
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 2: time he got touched. I think the story here is

837
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 2: Sean Strickland again, a guy who look, we don't talk

838
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 2: about him, right, you know I'd seen him right before, absolutely,

839
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 2: but it wasn't a guy that was on the forefront

840
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 2: of my mind talking at the middleweight division.

841
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:02,439
Speaker 4: You know who's got next?

842
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 2: Long term wake up? This is the guy, hey, b see,

843
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 2: Sean Strickland's the guy who's coming. You know he's coming

844
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 2: five in a row. And Luke, he kind of made

845
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 2: this look easy. His stand up was great. When he

846
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 2: went to the ground here was there was really an energy,

847
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 2: an electric ability of his ground game, the transitions, the

848
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 2: fever pitch at which he went for finishes. I was

849
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 2: thoroughly impressed across the board at his five round stamina,

850
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 2: at his toughness. To to your point, Hall attempted to

851
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 2: try to rally back and empty out what.

852
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:36,919
Speaker 4: Was left and he gutted it through.

853
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 2: But you know, his eyes were banged up, Luke, and

854
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 2: I think the fighting spirit in the end just kind

855
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 2: of got knocked out of him whatever was left. This

856
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 2: is what happens at the end of a career. And

857
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 2: you know he had a good run there recently, but

858
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 2: I think it's over Sean Strickland showed you that he's

859
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 2: ready for the smoke in the top ten and this

860
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 2: was as impressive as you can do it on this

861
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 2: type of stage. And then you throw in some of

862
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 2: those psychotics sound by Sluke that he threw out there,

863
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 2: not just after the fight, when he basically said, hey,

864
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 2: and god, that would knock me out, but I'll do

865
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 2: it for the payday right now if you want to,

866
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,479
Speaker 2: or what he said in the press conference before the fight.

867
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 2: I'm sick like that. I'm looking to kill a man

868
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 2: in the cage. I got no shame about it. I mean,

869
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 2: you watch more of this guy's interviews, Luke, You're like,

870
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's got a full deck up there,

871
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 2: but he's got a full game. It seems good, good

872
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 2: ass win. Okay, this ain't about your rye halt at

873
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 2: the end of the day, Luke.

874
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, this is a guy who you just can't

875
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: make the mistake early on in someone's UFC run you

876
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: get an impression about them like, oh, yeah, they're pretty good,

877
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: but whatever, and you know they're not going to really

878
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: be the guy that contends for a title. And I

879
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: don't know exactly how far Sean Strrilian will take it.

880
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,760
Speaker 1: I guess time will tell, But he had a record

881
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: in this fight. I think most significant strikes landed in

882
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: the middleweight fight, most attempted. I think he's got the

883
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: longest winning streak in this division at this point. Like,

884
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: the dude is doing something pretty impressive at this point

885
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: and it needs to be acknowledged. We said it, I

886
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 1: think on Friday. I'm not going to attribute it strictly

887
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 1: to this, but I will say day training with kamzat

888
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 1: CHAMAIV in the way that Sean Strickland had described it,

889
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,879
Speaker 1: which is, if you don't bring a ton of internal

890
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: fortitude to the sparring. You know, yes, technical sophistication matters,

891
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 1: but you really got to have your head on a

892
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 1: swivel against this guy and you got to bring a

893
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 1: certain level of intensity. I think that with the overall

894
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: development of Sean Strickland's game, it's always pretty good, it's

895
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: gotten much much better now he's doing real stuff. Plus dude.

896
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: He just had a certain attitude in this fight. Now

897
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: there were again a little bit later, fourth fifth round,

898
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 1: there wasn't quite the same intestinal fortitude. But by that

899
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: point it was a little bit too little, too late, right,

900
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: we see, because he part of going out there and

901
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 1: then hammering someone with a jab. There's lots of reasons

902
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: why you might do that, but one of them, one

903
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: of them will be I'm setting a tone. Okay, this

904
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 1: is how this fight is gonna be all night, as

905
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,720
Speaker 1: long as it lasts. I'm gonna set a tone right now.

906
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: It reminded me like there were times where we you know,

907
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 1: I've had really tough workouts and like within the first

908
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: ten minutes you knew, shit, man, this is gonna be

909
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: one of those days where I'm gonna pop, you know, exhaustion,

910
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: puke and whatnot, and you think to yourself, fuck, but

911
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: you just got to get through it. You do enough

912
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: of those, it changes you as a person and you

913
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: become much more hardened to the difficulties that these kinds

914
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: of things throw at you. And so it looks to

915
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: me like Sean Strickland has made technical maturation a part

916
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: of his journey. Fair enough, but he's made competitive maturation

917
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 1: in ways that have made him. Whatever how good he

918
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: was before, it's taking it up another notch. And yes,

919
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: he says shit about smoking meth and trailers and how

920
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: he would love to kill a person. And he's a

921
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: little bit. He's a little bit out there, fair enough,

922
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: but a lot. But when you take someone who's very

923
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: good with a at least to start to start an

924
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 1: indomitable spirit, and you put those two together against anyone

925
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: who's not there to match that right away, you're gonna

926
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: fight out of a deficit for twenty five minutes. And

927
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: that's more or less what happened.

928
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 3: You.

929
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 2: I thought it was interesting because the first, you know,

930
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 2: two minutes of that fight, Michael Bisina pion commentary basically

931
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 2: said what we were all thinking coming in. You know,

932
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 2: you can't stay and for a long time at that

933
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 2: mid range against somebody like Ryah Hall, He'll make your pay.

934
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 2: He'll make you pay. He never really did look and

935
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 2: I think it was the power of that jab. I

936
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 2: think it was just the constant pressure with just enough

937
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 2: movement where Strickland was never an easy target to be hit,

938
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 2: and anytime it looked like Hall was gonna turn it

939
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 2: on a bit specifically in the tail end of that

940
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 2: fourth round. It's like Strickland met that energy and just

941
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 2: put a little bit more on top of it and

942
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 2: and snuffed it out right away. And look, this was

943
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 2: very impressive, Luke. You know, we've seen guys show flashes,

944
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 2: and you know, and this is this is a tough level.

945
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 2: The ryle Hall level is tough. But we've seen guys

946
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 2: show flashes and then you put him in a five

947
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 2: round environment and you know, maybe they don't look as

948
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 2: strong the final two rounds. I thought this was absolutely

949
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 2: thorough and he was still going for the finish in

950
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 2: the final minute of round five, meaning Strickland. So yeah,

951
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 2: put the psychopath in there against everyone else, Luke, Let's

952
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 2: see what happens. He's an interesting player.

953
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, no doubt about it. So what would you

954
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: like to see him fight next? You have a like,

955
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: did a matchup stand out to you about where he

956
00:43:59,480 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 1: could go?

957
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,280
Speaker 2: You know, he didn't hate the idea of a Kevin

958
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 2: Holland fight, Luke, I want to know if you hate

959
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 2: that idea that would be high paced between two guys

960
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,959
Speaker 2: who don't give an f that could be wild? Would

961
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,280
Speaker 2: that tell you though? Enough about like we just learned

962
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 2: what he is against the Irai Hall level. A guy

963
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 2: ranked eighth, coming in four fight win streak, decorated history.

964
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 2: Is Holland a step back in your eyes at this

965
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 2: point he is.

966
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: He's ranked fourteenth, Although I agree it would be fun.

967
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: Another one you could do would be Kelvin Gastolum, Darren Till,

968
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: Edmund Shabazian. These are kind of the people around the

969
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: space that he's in. The Shabazian one's kind of interesting

970
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: because yes, Sean Strickland can mix it up. He can

971
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: go to the ground, and he can do ground and

972
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 1: pound for sure, but he puts pressure standing and I

973
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: wonder how a guy like Shabazian would deal with that.

974
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: That'd be kind of interesting. Maybe that's a little bit

975
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 1: too much too soon, but the Gastolum fight, the Darren

976
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,439
Speaker 1: Till fight, the only thing I would not necessarily say

977
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: he bought himself with this win was like, oh, let's

978
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: give him someone in the top five. I still feel

979
00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: like that six seven to ten range. One more of

980
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 1: those to really see, uh, and then that goes well,

981
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: then yes, no doubt about it.

982
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 2: Your UFC and they don't seem to They don't seem

983
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 2: to turn away from from giving people the microphone or

984
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 2: the or the spotlight if they're crazy. Do you think

985
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 2: they play up as craziness, Luke, or just let it,

986
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 2: Let let it play out how it's supposed to. No.

987
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: I think that that's just who he is. It used

988
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: to be. I remember when Frank Meher said he wanted

989
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: to have the first death in the Ox guy when

990
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: he fought brock Lesner and he lost his well, you know,

991
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 1: there's some debate about this, but soon thereafter his commentary,

992
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 1: gig was gone from WEC, and you know, the UFC

993
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: was very, very worried about it. But now people are

994
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: just kind of taking it for what it is, which

995
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: is just you know, sort of insane talk. But I

996
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: don't think they're amplifying it. I think that's just that

997
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: dude can't talk without that kind of thing happening. And

998
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 1: then you know the video of him slapping or Orlando

999
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 1: Sanchez or getting slapped or whatever it was. He's he's

1000
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 1: a wild man. He's a total wild man.

1001
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 2: But I I now, you know, would like to get

1002
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 2: him on the show, Luke. I want to find out,

1003
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 2: you know, but we'll we'll match crazy and see who's

1004
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 2: left standing. I kind of feel like it'll be him.

1005
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: So there were more announcements over the WEEKENDBC, but there

1006
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: were two that stood out that I wanted to talk

1007
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,919
Speaker 1: about for today's show on point number four. First of them,

1008
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 1: i'll just say both of them. On the UFC side,

1009
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: Michael Chandler versus Justin Geechee was announced and on the

1010
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: belt or side, the deem Nemkov You're ranking belt or

1011
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: light heavyweight champion taking on Anthony Rumbolt Johnson. Okay, I'll

1012
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,439
Speaker 1: just throw it to your BC your reaction to these

1013
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 1: ballots being official and now scheduled, Well.

1014
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 2: Let's separate and Luke, first of all, that's the Chandler

1015
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,879
Speaker 2: Geechee is about as sexy a fight as you can

1016
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 2: make in this entire sport.

1017
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 4: I mean, you tweeted it out.

1018
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 2: It's just obvious. This is like fight of the year

1019
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 2: waiting to happen, full on savagery, a very important fight

1020
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 2: in the lightweight standings, and the fact that they're going

1021
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 2: to put it in Madison Square Garden as the reports

1022
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 2: look like. Luke, with that, what was the main event

1023
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 2: that they had they had considered by.

1024
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: Usman Covey and Ousman two.

1025
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that card which, for first of all

1026
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 2: love with the exception of the Cormier Derek Lewis card

1027
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 2: which had some fights fall out last minute, we'd ended

1028
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 2: up getting Pourier and Nate like we wanted. They have

1029
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 2: properly loaded up those MSG cards and kept that as

1030
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 2: a as a big you know, tent polls, as Uncle

1031
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 2: Scott would say every year, as they should by the way,

1032
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 2: especially how long it took to get there. But Luke,

1033
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 2: I mean that that fight is gonna be fricking bananas.

1034
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 2: I can't even see it going past one round. Luke,

1035
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 2: I cannot friggin wait to see that. Dude, you could

1036
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 2: almost put that as great a fight as Usban Covington

1037
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 2: two is. The hardcore fans wouldn't blink an eye if

1038
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 2: suddenly Gae Chee Chandler was your main event. That is

1039
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 2: great shit. Thank you for booking that, UFC.

1040
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean people would disagree with me either like, oh,

1041
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,919
Speaker 1: that fight might last around or go seven minutes. I'm like, well,

1042
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: first of all, you wouldn't then get round of the year.

1043
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,839
Speaker 1: Second of all, there have been many fights that were

1044
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: just around or around and a half that ended up

1045
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 1: qualifying and even winning. Well, it depending on who's saying

1046
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 1: it fight of the year, Like that's in no way

1047
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: discuad qualifying to me that it's a little bit shorter,

1048
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,919
Speaker 1: And yes, if it goes a minute or two because

1049
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: someone gets viciously KOed, maybe not in that sense. But

1050
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:09,720
Speaker 1: if it ends up going around or around and a half,

1051
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 1: I don't know why that would make it something that

1052
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: wouldn't be listed on at least on the short list

1053
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 1: for Fight of the Year. But you're talking about, I mean,

1054
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 1: understand what this about is between Chandler and Gai Chee.

1055
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: You're talking about two guys who are generationally some of

1056
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: the most important action fighters of our time. Here right

1057
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 1: justin Gaechee easily fits that Bill Michael Chandler does as well.

1058
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: And what's notable b see going back to our previous conversation,

1059
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 1: these were guys who were kind of orbiting on the

1060
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 1: outside of the UFC, and they're able to meet by

1061
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: coming together there. I think that's part of what the

1062
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: UFC's appeal is. It's like, if you really want to

1063
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: fight the best, what they're going to say is we

1064
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,879
Speaker 1: can bring the talent here, so come here. If that's

1065
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 1: what you want to do something to keep in mind.

1066
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: But to your point, it's impossible for that one short

1067
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: of injury or some kind of you know, unfortunate circumstance

1068
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 1: influencing it just a fight itself, it's impossible that will

1069
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 1: be bad.

1070
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 2: And then look where it leads us. I love the

1071
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 2: loser of that fight to fight Tony Ferguson. I'd love

1072
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 2: the winner to fight the winner of Poorier and Olivera.

1073
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:16,399
Speaker 1: I mean, I was just about to say you could.

1074
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 1: There's a million different ways you can go with that.

1075
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: And if Gegie gets a win, by the way, you know,

1076
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,479
Speaker 1: with no more habib there, gay chie versus Potier two

1077
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 1: is not gonna look like Gaygi versus party A one.

1078
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: I have a strong feeling. So dude, there's a lot

1079
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 1: of different things you could do that guy.

1080
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 2: I mean, that gets me legitimately. I gotta look, I

1081
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 2: am rock hard with emotion about where the top of

1082
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,760
Speaker 2: the lightweight division is going right now in just terms

1083
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 2: of like hammer versus hammer, arm and hammer Luke, I

1084
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 2: cannot wait for this, but uh, switching gears to the

1085
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 2: belt or fight annouceman Luke.

1086
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 4: I don't think it's just that fight.

1087
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 2: Look, This is a big night for Belt October sixteenth

1088
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 2: on Showtime in Phoenix. The next step in the light

1089
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:56,879
Speaker 2: Heavyweight World Grand Prix main event the Deem Nemcov versus

1090
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 2: Rumble Johnson Co Maine event Heavyweight Champ Ryan versus Corey Anderson,

1091
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 2: and they obviously have a long history know each other

1092
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 2: very well. Look, this is you know, if you want

1093
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 2: to build momentum for Belatour coming off of this big

1094
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 2: night at two sixty three, this is the right card.

1095
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 2: I know it's a couple months away, but dude, Rumble

1096
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 2: versus Nemcov for the title tournament or not is important

1097
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 2: appointment viewing. That is gonna be some great theater because

1098
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 2: Nemcov is so much more a complete fighter at this point,

1099
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 2: and Rumble just got touched up by Jose Augusto of

1100
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 2: all people, yet canend to fight at any freaking time

1101
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 2: and still looks to be as dangerous as shit.

1102
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,439
Speaker 4: I cannot freaking wait for that fight.

1103
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, give me that. I didn't. I'm not here to

1104
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 1: say that Beater versus Anderson is some kind of throwaway fight.

1105
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: It's not, but it's not in the same action vein

1106
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 1: as Chandler Gachee or even I would argue, I guess

1107
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: we'll have to see, but I guess it does it

1108
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 1: on paper. It doesn't seem like it would deliver the

1109
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 1: way that Nemkov versus Johnson might. We've been seeing the

1110
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: praises again. Say the things. When a promoter tries to

1111
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: lie to you and say that they're bad, things are good,

1112
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: you know you got to call him out. But when

1113
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:03,919
Speaker 1: they say that they're good, things are good and they're right,

1114
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 1: you got to back them up.

1115
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 3: Dude.

1116
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: The deem Nemkov is the real deal holy Field. Now,

1117
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 1: I don't know if he wins this fight, but I

1118
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: guarantee there's a good chance of it number one, number two.

1119
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: If he does win it, it might be via stoppage. This

1120
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: guy is as good as Eddy top five light heavyweight

1121
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 1: on Earth, and maybe the very best one. He is

1122
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: a hammer and Anthony Johnson, you rightly put it a

1123
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 1: couple of issues with that first fight, but in the end,

1124
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,760
Speaker 1: the big power showed up and he dropped Jose Agusta

1125
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: or Jose Augusta like a bad habit. And here he

1126
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 1: is just giving Ryan Vader no space to breathe whatsoever.

1127
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: That fight is amazing, amazing.

1128
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 2: The first seven minutes of that fight, nemcof Rumble are

1129
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 2: gonna be incredible because if Nemklov takes Anthony Johnson into

1130
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 2: the deeper edge, he's gonna gast him out.

1131
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 4: He's got a motor nemclough.

1132
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 2: He's you know, he's a fantastic on the ground, he's

1133
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 2: a great striker. But in that first seven minutes, Luke,

1134
00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 2: Rumble can take your launch and you're a credit card

1135
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,399
Speaker 2: and your world title, he can knock your ass out.

1136
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 2: That's gonna be great. Give me that, give me that shit, Luke, Please, okay.

1137
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 1: It's very very good. Early. I give you the right

1138
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: to change your prediction over time. Do you have an

1139
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: early sense about either one of those fights?

1140
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look at the smart pick will be

1141
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 2: Nemcov based on the ease in which he did that

1142
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 2: to batter Right, who is reformed and in a very

1143
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 2: good spot in his career. He should he should be

1144
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,919
Speaker 2: able to beat Rumble Johnson. But even though Rumble showed

1145
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 2: us some holes in that comeback from a long layoff

1146
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 2: due to retirement, there's still he's in great shape. There's

1147
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,919
Speaker 2: me He's still gonna be uh you know he's gonna

1148
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 2: have a shot here, Luke. Okay, he's not washed, is

1149
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.

1150
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: Fair enough, all right, So point number five, last, but

1151
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 1: not least, there are a bunch of fights this weekend

1152
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: coming up, including, but not limited to excuse me, UFC,

1153
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 1: I should say two sixty five BC. Okay, in your

1154
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: main event, you got Derek Lewis taken on Cyril gone.

1155
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: But up and down the car which look what it

1156
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 1: looks like to me is obviously with the departure of

1157
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 1: a man in Nunez, is a fight against Juliana Pena.

1158
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 1: In the sense that there re least two title fights

1159
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 1: on the cards, it's lackluster in the sense that there's

1160
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: nothing really as a sales angle for pay per view. However,

1161
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: if it was a free fight night card, we'd be

1162
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 1: singing its praises for that. So in that spirit, BC,

1163
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: what fight are you most looking forward to at a

1164
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:25,439
Speaker 1: UFC two sixty five.

1165
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,359
Speaker 2: There's about three or four hardcore specials on this card.

1166
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 2: They're very good fights and they would fill out any

1167
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 2: strong pay per view card to get you excited. And

1168
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 2: that co main event, which has now been bumped up

1169
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:39,280
Speaker 2: due to Mandy falling off is Jose Aldo Pedro Muno's.

1170
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 4: Look, that's a great fight.

1171
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 2: It's an important fight in the bantamweight title standings. But

1172
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 2: that fight's going to be an absolute banger, Luke, I

1173
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 2: can't wait to see it. Jose rebounded very nicely against

1174
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 2: Marlon Vera after those high profile losses. And you know

1175
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 2: I've said it before, I'll say it again, Luke, I

1176
00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 2: love this older version of Jose one way class down,

1177
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 2: which I'm still shocked that he's able to make this

1178
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 2: way and look that good. He's a headhunter, man, I mean,

1179
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 2: he can finish a fight at any time. He's not

1180
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,720
Speaker 2: as thorough as he was in his featherway title days.

1181
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:13,919
Speaker 2: You know, he's not committing to the leg strikes as much.

1182
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 2: But he is an absolute as you would say. And

1183
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 2: we're abusing the term hammer in there. And Pedro Munoz

1184
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 2: historically puts on exciting fights and he's a tough out

1185
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 2: and you know, I'd like this fight even if they

1186
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 2: were both old and washed, but it still matters in

1187
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 2: the deepest division in the sport, which was we have

1188
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 2: now officially appointed Bandonwaight. Just that that. I can't wait

1189
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:34,320
Speaker 2: to see this fight.

1190
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 1: No doubt. About it. I'm gonna go with you could

1191
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 1: go that one Kisa versus Vicente Luke, that one. The

1192
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 1: winner of that is probably going to be close to

1193
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: a title shot ish Obviously Teacha Torres Angela Hill should

1194
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 1: be a lot of fun. But the one I've got

1195
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: my eye on is the main event of the prelims

1196
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 1: because I know they're having a hard time getting guys

1197
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: to fight him. Raphael Fazaia have taken on Bobby Green. Boy,

1198
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 1: that is a hell of a contest. I have is

1199
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: one of these guys out of He's technically he is Oserbaijani,

1200
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 1: but he was out of Tiger Muay Thai and he

1201
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 1: was the one that did the huge lean like like

1202
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: what you call it, like stylebender does when the kicks

1203
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 1: come and just you know, this incredible matrix like display

1204
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 1: of agility and balance. He's a phenomenal, phenomenal striker, and

1205
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 1: I can tell you they've had a hard time matchmaking him.

1206
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,240
Speaker 1: Bobby Green is the kind of guy who just doesn't

1207
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 1: give a fuck. He can strike, he can wrestle. Now,

1208
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 1: sometimes he wins when he should have not maybe sometimes

1209
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:31,879
Speaker 1: he loses when he should not have. He's a little

1210
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 1: bit all over the place, loose cannon ish, but he

1211
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,839
Speaker 1: is very talented and when he keeps his focus right,

1212
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,919
Speaker 1: I think he's as good as anyone in the top

1213
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: fifteen of that division. This is a fun fight, Fazia.

1214
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: If you're the better technician, and FAZIAV probably believes that

1215
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 1: he is, this should be a very winnable fight. But

1216
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: Green has a way of making things complicated for those

1217
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 1: kinds of folks. It's a It's a great test for

1218
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 1: frankly both guys, but for Razia, who is looking to

1219
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 1: make a mark, a UFC looks legit.

1220
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 2: So I can't wait to see this fight. I'm even

1221
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 2: more excited, by the way about that song you don

1222
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 2: Casey Kenny banham Way fight which opens the pay per

1223
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 2: view card.

1224
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 4: That's a fantastic one, Luke.

1225
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 2: I did want to ask you one question storyline wise

1226
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 2: about this main event. Should we make a decision now,

1227
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 2: you and I, as you know, Curmudgeony Krusty, when we

1228
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 2: should be MMA journalists who have rightfully sort of panned

1229
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:30,240
Speaker 2: the interim title being at stake here for commercial reasons only,

1230
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 2: are we completely not allowing ourselves to actually look at

1231
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 2: how good this fight could potentially be and how it's

1232
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 2: gonna answer a lot of questions in this division. I mean,

1233
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 2: so real gone and Derek Lewis is a hell of

1234
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 2: a fight. But up to this point, Luke, every time

1235
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 2: I hear it or see it, I'm just sort of dismissive, like, ah,

1236
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 2: fucking hey, right, got an interim title on there. It's

1237
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 2: like a scarlet letter to me, Luke. Should I just

1238
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 2: get over that and get really excited about this fight.

1239
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: That's what the promoter wants you to do. It's up

1240
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 1: to you. I mean, I would say that there is

1241
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 1: a chance that it could be. It's possible that Gon

1242
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: could stick and move and never really put Lewis away.

1243
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 1: I tend to think that Gon's body work, we'll talk

1244
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 1: about this on Friday. I tend to think his body

1245
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: work will make a difference over time, and it won't

1246
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 1: necessarily go the full distance. Of course, we'll have to see. Obviously,

1247
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 1: Lewis has blinding power, so he lands one of those

1248
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 1: and forget about it. Listen, the fight is probably fine.

1249
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 1: It's an interesting test for Derek Lewis. It's an interesting

1250
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 1: test for Cerial Gon too, given his potential upside. At

1251
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 1: the same time, it's just not the one that should

1252
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 1: be happening. This is not a fight that the promoter

1253
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 1: should be making, especially not for a title anyway he

1254
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 1: wanted to make it, that'd be one thing, but for

1255
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 1: a title, certainly, I don't think that's appropriate. You know,

1256
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 1: the real question here is where is Francis and Gon

1257
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 1: who shouldn't need to be not on this date per se,

1258
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: but shouldn't any kind of title implication be reserved for

1259
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 1: his return at a normal schedule. Like what the promoter

1260
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 1: is basically doing is listen, I'm gonna let the passage

1261
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 1: of time kind of wash over everyone, and I'll probably

1262
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 1: give you a fight that could even be decent, not

1263
00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:00,080
Speaker 1: even outright good, so that you'll forget about it. I

1264
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: want to like penalize Derek Lewis. I don't want to

1265
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 1: penalize Ceial Gone. They're just trying to live their lives

1266
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 1: the best way they know how. But kind of forgetting

1267
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 1: about all the baggage is exactly what the promoter wants

1268
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 1: you to do so they can keep doing this in

1269
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 1: the future. I would caution against that.

1270
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, caution, Luke. I have to lament my girl. Carolina

1271
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 2: Koviokeevitch is on here. Coming off four straight defeats, a

1272
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 2: winnable fight against Jessica Pene, who also you know, could

1273
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 2: need a win here. But it's tough to see that original,

1274
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 2: you know, class of the tough seat. I don't even

1275
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 2: remember if Carolyna was in that tough season, but that

1276
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 2: original strawweight class, right, the original fighters that filled out

1277
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 2: the title fights A Carolina, let's not forget pushed you

1278
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 2: wanna deep in that absolute five round war in which

1279
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 2: yo wanna may have won, but she was the one

1280
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:43,919
Speaker 2: heading to the hospital and kovial Keevitch was the one

1281
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 2: doing smiley interviews afterwards. You know, she's in a tough

1282
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 2: spot here at thirty five, needs to win badly. It's

1283
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 2: certainly not the same fighter she once was. It's tough

1284
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 2: to see an original division of fun names start to

1285
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 2: age out. We're seeing that now. It is what it is.

1286
00:58:57,680 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 2: Luca's the life cycle of sport.

1287
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 1: But uh yeah, it's winnable for either of those two ladies,

1288
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 1: cobl Keevich or Penny. But it's kind of like it's

1289
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: a little lifed raffish raftish in terms of what it

1290
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: gets you. Uh okay, So that is it for our

1291
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 1: top five BC so it is time for us to

1292
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 1: not ask each other question so much as it is

1293
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 1: for the viewers to ask us. It's time for d

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00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 1: ms from diggnity dogs.

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00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 2: Ee haw.

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Speaker 1: Mmmm as I drink my gross concoction. All right, Uh,

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00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 1: here we go from uh oh soul Daco. I don't

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00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: know how the fucking pronounce this. Thoughts on the post

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00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 1: fight interviews from McKey and Pitbull, Well, Pitbull I think

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00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 1: only spoke to the media afterwards. I don't think they

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00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 1: interviewed him in the cage, did they They did, I

1302
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: skipped it, but they interviewed aj as well. What did

1303
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 1: you think about what the Stuffy had to say after

1304
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 1: the fight?

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00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 3: Oh?

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00:59:57,600 --> 00:59:59,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I watched the pit Bull sat down for about

1307
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 2: five minutes, and you know, he did say that he

1308
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 2: had more fight left in him and thought that the

1309
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 2: fight shouldn't have been stopped. He didn't overly protest it,

1310
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 2: which I thought was, you know, respectable. He said, look,

1311
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 2: I'll be back from it. I'm unlike other fighters. Every

1312
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 2: fighter says they'll be back from a big loss, but

1313
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 2: I actually will be I'll be better than this. And Luke,

1314
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 2: his history has shown that, boy does Pitbull improve from

1315
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 2: defeats and figure out, you know, what he needs to fix,

1316
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 2: although you do have to question in this matchup, there's

1317
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 2: a big size differential between these two, so it's always

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01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 2: going to be an uphill battle against somebody like aj McKee.

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01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 2: But you know, I thought he fielded it well. I

1320
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 2: think one specific reporter asked because he had his son

1321
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 2: next to him, about teaching his son about the lessons

1322
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Speaker 2: of defeat, And I thought pit Bull fielded that well.

1323
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 2: He was respectful. He was the champion. We expected him

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Speaker 2: to be.

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Speaker 1: Luke.

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Speaker 2: He didn't come out here and talk Junker play up

1327
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 2: the you know, the questionable stoppage too much, so that

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01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 2: is what that is. Luke, he played it well.

1329
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I was thinking about, like Eric albar Sin,

1330
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 1: if they really hated that stoppage. I feel like he

1331
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: would have texted me fifty thousand times over the weekend,

1332
01:00:58,440 --> 01:00:59,479
Speaker 1: and he didn't, so.

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01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 2: You would have said, you so many drunken videos with

1334
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 2: those weird glasses.

1335
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:08,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, hundred percent, all right from Dylan J. Moran. AJ

1336
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 1: McKee versus Alex Volk and Max versus Pitbull. Who comes

1337
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 1: out on top for each of those two matchups in

1338
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 1: your opinion? By the way, A J. McKey saying a

1339
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 1: fight with Max Holloway is his dream see, I gotta

1340
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 1: tell you that's I definitely like Volkanovsky to beat McKee.

1341
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 1: I just think at this stage of the game he's

1342
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 1: a little bit too tough to beat. Pitpol's thirty four

1343
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 1: against Holloway's jab and reach. It's an interesting one. What

1344
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 1: do you think?

1345
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Matt just aj had said Holloway was always his

1346
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 2: dream fight, and those styles against each other would be

1347
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 2: absolutely incredible. Although it's easy to say that you would

1348
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 2: like Volkanovsky's chances of uh of, you know, diffusing what

1349
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 2: Pipole does. Great, They'd be a lot closer in size

1350
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 2: Luke than some of these other matchups that that could

1351
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 2: be an absolute banger, because yeah, your boy can Your

1352
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 2: boy Alex can throw too, so that could be uh yeah.

1353
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 1: The better matchup to me would be McKee Holloway and

1354
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 1: then Volkanovsky Pitbull. I think that's a better pairing.

1355
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Speaker 4: Why is the question asking it differently?

1356
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, the question is asking McKee Volkanovsky and then Holloway

1357
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 1: versus Pitbull. In that case, I'd probably side with both

1358
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 1: UFC guys maybe, But if you switched it a little

1359
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 1: bit where it's McKee versus Holloway a little more open.

1360
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 1: I think that's a winnable fight for either guy.

1361
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 2: So you're not really like.

1362
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 1: Volkanovsky to beat Pitbull, but that that's a close fight

1363
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 1: too true.

1364
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 2: So you're not ready to say you think McKee could

1365
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 2: be everybody in the world at one.

1366
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 1: I think on the right night he probably could. I

1367
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:37,480
Speaker 1: just feel like at twenty six without having him really

1368
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 1: fully when I say tested, he's tested in the sense

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01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 1: that they lined up difficult opponents for him and he

1370
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 1: knocked him all down. He's somewhat untested, somewhat somewhat in

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01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 1: the in those in the trench moments where you have

1372
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 1: seen Pitbull climb himself out of Saturday. Notwithstanding you know,

1373
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 1: you just don't know exactly when someone did. Here's the

1374
01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 1: rule with MMA, and everyone gets behind some one and

1375
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 1: says this is not true. I go through it with

1376
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 1: every generation a fan not saying you but like the

1377
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 1: last one I had to deal with, this one was McGregor.

1378
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 1: Here's how this goes, folks. Eventually, maybe not tomorrow, maybe

1379
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 1: not a year from now, maybe not even two years

1380
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:17,479
Speaker 1: from now, although it could happen. Then someone is gonna

1381
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 1: put it on AJ McKee. Someone is gonna start hurting

1382
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 1: him in a fight, right, and the question is what

1383
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 1: is he gonna do about it? And I don't know

1384
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 1: what way he'll be hurt. Maybe it's to the legs,

1385
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 1: to the body, whatever, He'll get rocked something. It happens

1386
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 1: in MMA every single time to every single fighter. Maybe

1387
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 1: Habib would be the one guy who didn't get super rocked,

1388
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 1: but I don't know that. We're talking about McKee with

1389
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 1: the same level of Habib reverence. So the question is

1390
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 1: what does he do when someone does that to him?

1391
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 1: And plus Habib like physically controlled you, AJ McKee is

1392
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 1: happy to stand at part. I don't know. I don't

1393
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 1: know what the answer is. He'll probably fucking shine, but

1394
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 1: we just don't know.

1395
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 2: We kind of have to see him go five rounds

1396
01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 2: first before we can comment on any.

1397
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 1: Of this, you know, I mean exactly.

1398
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 2: So many of these fights have played to his strengths completely,

1399
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 2: so we do have to see it. Yeah, yeah, it's

1400
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 2: easy to look you know me. I love flashy packaging.

1401
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 2: I love to put the cart before the horse, luke.

1402
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 2: I love emotions, right, you know, and AJ's got me

1403
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 2: feeling those emotions. You know deeper than I've ever felt before.

1404
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 2: But I got even I got to put the pause

1405
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 2: on there and say, you know you're telling me it's

1406
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 2: gonna go five with with Volkanovski, I still might pick that,

1407
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 2: you know, the down under wonder. So there's there.

1408
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:36,959
Speaker 1: It is Luke all right from at Pinky Song hah eight?

1409
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 1: Who will be your next resume review?

1410
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 2: Victim six? And oh Luke six and oh brother, Okay,

1411
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 2: what are you gonna say about that?

1412
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 1: Okay?

1413
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 4: What do you wish we do? We go after COVID?

1414
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 4: Where are we going with this?

1415
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 1: The COVID resume? It's a hell of a resume. Yeah,

1416
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if there's any big

1417
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 1: one yet because the problem is we've done like you

1418
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 1: could do one for Kamaru I suppose, but it feels

1419
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 1: a little bit early, right, I don't know if that

1420
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 1: makes a whole lot of sense.

1421
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 2: Still, they want dustin ahead of the owl of verified.

1422
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 2: That's what I've heard from.

1423
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 1: The one that I have the site set on is

1424
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 1: John Jones. That's the one that because.

1425
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 2: I knew, I hear you are still I know you

1426
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 2: were still holding that too far.

1427
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 1: By the way, someone in my live chat brought up

1428
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 1: some kind of quote that I had right around the

1429
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 1: time that he blew up all the plans for UFC

1430
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 1: two hundred, and someone's like, well, maybe this is what

1431
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 1: you said that pissed them off. I read it and

1432
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 1: it was, like I said on the air, like there's

1433
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 1: zero a chance I would apologize for any of this. So, uh, no,

1434
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 1: I doude. That bridge has burned. It's gone, it will

1435
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 1: never come back. But uh, this is the thing that

1436
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 1: folks lose about resume review. It's not we're not doing

1437
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 1: it as like a prediction engine, Like we don't put

1438
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 1: the names in and be like, oh, we're focusing on

1439
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 1: this guy because we think he'll win. It's not. Both

1440
01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 1: of us picked Kamaru to beat Jorge, but we still

1441
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 1: did the resume review on Jorge. Why well, dude, his

1442
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 1: career story is just a lot more interesting. It is

1443
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 1: the guy started fighting in the streets with Kimbo's slice

1444
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 1: for fuck's sake, and he was kind of always that

1445
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 1: other dude until he goes on this journey in the woods,

1446
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 1: comes out, starts knocking everyone the fuck out in the

1447
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:20,440
Speaker 1: most violent fashion. And yes, it didn't work out for

1448
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 1: him up until the point where we did the resume

1449
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 1: review for him. But we're trying to tell interesting stories

1450
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 1: through resumes that have been around for a while. Well, dude,

1451
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 1: John Jones has been kicking everyone's ass for a long while.

1452
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 1: This dude was on my radio show when he was

1453
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 1: still part of Team Bomb Squad in New York State

1454
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 1: back in two thousand and eight. I mean we're talking

1455
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, and he's still a super relevant,

1456
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 1: if somewhat departed figure. Like, how would you not do

1457
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 1: a resume review on him? And whether you want to

1458
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 1: believe in some kind of magic and tooth fairy and

1459
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 1: whatever you're allowed to do that you or anybody else,

1460
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 1: But the reality is, and BC for just a thirty

1461
01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 1: seconds of seriousness, we're trying to tell the stories of

1462
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 1: people who are on the precipice of great things, that

1463
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 1: have interesting professional lives that deserve to be retold. I

1464
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:10,439
Speaker 1: don't regret doing one for Pitbull at all. In fact,

1465
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 1: I'm quite glad we did, especially now that he's lost.

1466
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 1: At least there is this record that you can show

1467
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 1: someone of what he did.

1468
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with that. I think a you know,

1469
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 2: boo boo wild things may few might be a little

1470
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 2: more interesting than John at this point. But you know,

1471
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 2: just so people know, we don't get together and go

1472
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 2: which fighter do we like the least, let's curse him.

1473
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 2: But Luke, it is getting to the point now at

1474
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:34,520
Speaker 2: six and zero, where we have we may we have

1475
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 2: a responsibility. Luke, it's like, you know, you're a gun owner.

1476
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:39,520
Speaker 2: You got to keep that shit locked up, Like, we

1477
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 2: have a responsibility. Look, this is a where there's a

1478
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 2: dangerous thing we're playing with here.

1479
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 1: So see, I don't think we have any control over it.

1480
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 1: I think the fighters do. But I will say this,

1481
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 1: I don't. There's no one that stands out to me

1482
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 1: right now. I can't think of an obvious candidate. Can you.

1483
01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 4: I won't let you do one, En Rose, I'll tell

1484
01:07:59,280 --> 01:07:59,919
Speaker 4: you that right now.

1485
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 2: Okay, not doing it? Not doing it? Bro No.

1486
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, but John Jones is the big one. When he

1487
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 1: comes back. We're gonna do one on John Jones for sure.

1488
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 4: So six and the Favorite.

1489
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 2: We've done six of them, three times on the underdog,

1490
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 2: three times on the Favorite, which is interesting.

1491
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:18,519
Speaker 1: It's interesting. Yeah, I will say that part is interesting.

1492
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 3: Uh.

1493
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 1: The other thing is we got to do one on

1494
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 1: a man of New nests at some point too. We see,

1495
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:24,639
Speaker 1: we haven't done one on any kind of women fighters yet.

1496
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 1: The other thing we could do, though, is if to

1497
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 1: make people happy, we could do one on like a

1498
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 1: fighter that's already retired, like a Ronda Rossi or something.

1499
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:33,680
Speaker 1: You know, well, then you're gonna kill him, Luke.

1500
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:35,679
Speaker 4: I mean, there's nothing left to lose at that point.

1501
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:37,720
Speaker 1: It'll be like final destination.

1502
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 2: I mean it would be we okay, every time we

1503
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 2: do one now, whether you want to talk about the

1504
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 2: curse or not, Luke, and I know you don't. We

1505
01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:50,680
Speaker 2: are putting the first no, no, no, you're just but

1506
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 2: your tongue.

1507
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 4: We know what you're gonna say.

1508
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 2: We get it.

1509
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 1: Even at that, I don't even know what to say.

1510
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 1: I don't know what to say about it. I honestly

1511
01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:58,599
Speaker 1: don't know what to say because it's obviously ridiculous. Like

1512
01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:01,880
Speaker 1: guys wanted to got Santa Claus with you, I can't.

1513
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:02,599
Speaker 1: I can't do.

1514
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 4: That, Okay. So what I'm saying is like.

1515
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:08,760
Speaker 2: When we every time we do one now at this point,

1516
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 2: since it's six and all, we are testing it, we are,

1517
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 2: we are challenging it.

1518
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:15,520
Speaker 4: Could you freaking imagine if we did Amanda.

1519
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:18,680
Speaker 2: Newness ahead of any you know, anything short of Chef Chenko. Right,

1520
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:20,800
Speaker 2: if we did it in the Pain You Fight or

1521
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 2: GDR or what like whatever, and then she lost Luke,

1522
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Luke, you would have to come out and

1523
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 2: be like, guys, it's more powerful than I thought it was,

1524
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 2: Like I am like, it's like they were when I

1525
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 2: when we filmed it, it was a mug wi. Now

1526
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 2: it's a gremlin, bro like, what are we gonna do?

1527
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:38,719
Speaker 3: Right?

1528
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 1: Right? But the opposite would be if we did want

1529
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 1: an Amanda and she broke it, they'd be like, oh,

1530
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 1: of course, Amanda's the one to break it. But then

1531
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 1: if we did another one on someone else who has

1532
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:49,599
Speaker 1: a lesser status than literally the greatest women's fighter ever,

1533
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:52,559
Speaker 1: they would say it's back on, like there's no The

1534
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 1: only way to beat it, so to speak, to beat it,

1535
01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 1: at least to beat the perception, I should say, would

1536
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 1: be for it to go relatively even over time, which

1537
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:02,880
Speaker 1: I suspect over time it will. It's just gonna take

1538
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 1: a little while, all right. I don't even get this

1539
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:09,640
Speaker 1: next question at all at drink hot tea with me?

1540
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:13,919
Speaker 1: Does LT like watching old guys competing at the Olympics

1541
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 1: and weightlifting to keep his dreams of becoming an Olympian

1542
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:19,640
Speaker 1: at an elder age alive. B See, I don't know

1543
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 1: who the fuck he's talking about. There's no one old

1544
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 1: weightlifting at the Olympics. Who's Who's a dude? Who? Who

1545
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 1: the fuck would that be? I don't know. They're all

1546
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:32,919
Speaker 1: in their twenties and early thirties.

1547
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:35,760
Speaker 2: I haven't been watching much Olympics this round, Luke.

1548
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 1: You know, know what if you when you usually watch

1549
01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:40,760
Speaker 1: the Olympics, what do you watch? What you go to?

1550
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 2: Okay, the best events are this in my mind sprinting

1551
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 2: and track and field without question percent. I agree number

1552
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 2: two and my wife pushes me into it, but then

1553
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:52,759
Speaker 2: I get hooked. I'm sorry. Female gymnastics is exciting his balls.

1554
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:53,720
Speaker 2: It is what it is, Luke.

1555
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:54,760
Speaker 1: It's like it.

1556
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 2: I like it. And elite swimming, right, I mean, elite

1557
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 2: swimming is in credible.

1558
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 4: Those are my three. In the past.

1559
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:05,599
Speaker 2: I've been a monster team USA men's basketball fan. I've

1560
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 2: kind of lost a little bit of interest in that,

1561
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 2: but that's my core, Luke.

1562
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:10,920
Speaker 4: What else do you you moved by?

1563
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:14,799
Speaker 1: Wrestling is big? Obviously, wrestling is big. I like judo,

1564
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 1: but I don't like the rules all that much, which

1565
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 1: kind of make it not as good as it could be.

1566
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:23,760
Speaker 1: But the weightlifting is big. I think what he's talking

1567
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:26,720
Speaker 1: about is I've posted pictures of an old dude, not

1568
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 1: pictures videos of an old dude by the name of

1569
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 1: Randy Kudloub, who is the co founder of Kabuki Strength.

1570
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 1: They make a lot of different kinds of unique equipment

1571
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 1: and whatnot. He's seventy two and he did some powerlifting recently,

1572
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 1: but you know that was like not on a grand

1573
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:45,600
Speaker 1: stage like the fucking Olympics. The Olympics, dude, if you

1574
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 1: I mean, the oldest competitor I can think of at

1575
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 1: the Olympics on the male side who did anything is

1576
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:52,559
Speaker 1: Lucio June, who is maybe one of the best to

1577
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 1: ever do it in any weight class. He got gold

1578
01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 1: and he's thirty seven, but he's fucking super bricked up

1579
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 1: as old as it gets, dude, Like that's and even

1580
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:05,800
Speaker 1: that is fucking rare. Thirty seven is very old for

1581
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 1: weightlifting at an elite level. So this dude is obviously

1582
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:11,280
Speaker 1: just very confused because there are no old dudes lifting.

1583
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 2: Do you think there's as much consummation in the Olympic

1584
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:18,719
Speaker 2: village this time around due to the COVID scare as normal.

1585
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:22,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, no one's actually I'm guessing no one's actually getting COVID,

1586
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:32,400
Speaker 1: but they're getting all kinds of gonorrhea, truly defeated plague. Yeah,

1587
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:35,719
Speaker 1: all right, Last, but not least from Taekwon dude Memes,

1588
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 1: that's his name. If you could wake up in the

1589
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:43,439
Speaker 1: world of any TV show, which show would you want

1590
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:45,000
Speaker 1: to live in? Fuck me?

1591
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 2: Does the Emmanuel series count on showtime back in the day, Luke,

1592
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 2: or what I mean?

1593
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 1: Does?

1594
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:51,439
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1595
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 1: Does bang Bus count? Yeah? Well, I mean I don't

1596
01:12:58,240 --> 01:12:59,759
Speaker 1: want to live on a TV show, bro.

1597
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 2: I mean all all the best TV shows involved, like

1598
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:05,759
Speaker 2: drama and violent, I don't want to live in that, Luke.

1599
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 1: Ray, Would you want to live in a sitcom? I mean?

1600
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 4: Can I be a part of the sever family on

1601
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:13,479
Speaker 4: Growing Pains?

1602
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 2: I don't know?

1603
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:15,840
Speaker 1: Oh, you know what? I would be a part of

1604
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:18,840
Speaker 1: the nine oh two one oher that Tiffin Amberson was

1605
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:19,639
Speaker 1: on there.

1606
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:21,599
Speaker 2: It is, you nailed it. I wanted to be part

1607
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:23,519
Speaker 2: of that friend circle big time, Luke, and I would

1608
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 2: have exposed Brian A Green or BA Green. Brian Austin Green,

1609
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 2: as was his character's named David Silver. I would expose him.

1610
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:32,280
Speaker 4: As an absolute like weirdo.

1611
01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:34,759
Speaker 2: I know, he got cool and he started banging Donna

1612
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:37,599
Speaker 2: and he was like the school DJ and he was

1613
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 2: he could sing and Dan Yo, he was a nerd bro.

1614
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:42,599
Speaker 2: And I remember it because I watched episode one from

1615
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 2: back in the day. He used to hang out with

1616
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 2: that blond kid that shot himself, Luke Yo, I would

1617
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:48,320
Speaker 2: have exposed be a Green right away and challenge him

1618
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:50,240
Speaker 2: to fight in the first day at school, no question

1619
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:50,720
Speaker 2: about it.

1620
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 1: I just want to put a knife between the sixth

1621
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:55,240
Speaker 1: and seventh floating rib right through the lungs so he

1622
01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:57,479
Speaker 1: can't scream when I when I when I knife him

1623
01:13:57,479 --> 01:13:58,000
Speaker 1: from behind.

1624
01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, That's what I'm talking about. Okay, yeah, but you

1625
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:05,320
Speaker 2: picked the right year when when Valerie Malone arrived, Luke.

1626
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 1: Boners Bro, you know apex predator, apex predator. What I

1627
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:14,600
Speaker 1: would say, all right, we see we go from discussing

1628
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:18,639
Speaker 1: aj McKee's win to our childhood lusty fantasies of Tiffany

1629
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:21,040
Speaker 1: Amberthees And with that in mind, why don't you take

1630
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 1: away the silly portion of today?

1631
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 3: All right?

1632
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 2: What we do every Monday. It's really the highest rated

1633
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:28,840
Speaker 2: segment and and really the Internet's history. We scour the

1634
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:30,679
Speaker 2: globe for the good, the bad, the ugly, the highs

1635
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:33,759
Speaker 2: and lows and in between, from combat sports and beyond.

1636
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 2: And this is a great batch of shit this week. Luke,

1637
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:37,760
Speaker 2: it's have you seen this shit?

1638
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 3: Yes?

1639
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 2: Oh god? Oh look, you didn't do that this time?

1640
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:47,719
Speaker 1: Oh oh god, I got the fart needles.

1641
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:51,560
Speaker 2: Oh god, all right, Belle George sixty three.

1642
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:53,800
Speaker 4: What I'm getting Los Angeles.

1643
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 2: I think we actually ran this vid earlier, so it's

1644
01:14:56,240 --> 01:15:00,599
Speaker 2: a little redundant. But here's aj McKee celebrating with that, Luke.

1645
01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:01,800
Speaker 2: You deserve a kid, all right?

1646
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:05,440
Speaker 1: Looking good? That's that's me after five minutes on perb City.

1647
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:09,800
Speaker 2: Five minutes? Really, uh, Luke, no fifty cent?

1648
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:11,639
Speaker 1: Sorry I lied thirty seconds?

1649
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:14,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, Please, no fifty cent this time to hand

1650
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:17,040
Speaker 2: out the champagne. I don't know what happened there, mean,

1651
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 2: we had a falling out. Let's keep it rolling. From uh.

1652
01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 2: From two sixty three, Kabeb's husband Usman Nirmaga made off.

1653
01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:27,519
Speaker 2: Look at this jackknife need of the body of many moro, Luke,

1654
01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:28,720
Speaker 2: he's nasty, bro.

1655
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:31,479
Speaker 1: He looked good, dude, he looked really good. His takedowns

1656
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:34,679
Speaker 1: were slick, total. He was in complete control. Now, granted,

1657
01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:38,240
Speaker 1: this opponent was a nice kid, but he's very overmatched.

1658
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 1: Numerga made was supposed to look good. But I'm telling you, man,

1659
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 1: this guy, I'd be very surprised if he's not wearing

1660
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 1: belt or gold. At some point, he's.

1661
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:47,559
Speaker 2: Gonna be wearing a go at belt or gold. Habib

1662
01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 2: was four and oh. On Saturday, another one of his proteges,

1663
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:54,160
Speaker 2: Godzi rob Adanna off Luke. He sent Daniel, look look

1664
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 2: at this left hook.

1665
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:56,760
Speaker 1: I mean perfectly.

1666
01:15:56,280 --> 01:16:01,120
Speaker 2: Toed smash Jesus. Indeed, Look that's mesh Factory is just

1667
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:04,599
Speaker 2: working all night churning out the new dagg. He's here.

1668
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:07,679
Speaker 1: Watch this, watch this man, watch this. This guy sets

1669
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:11,439
Speaker 1: it up and he just times it perfectly. Oh God,

1670
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 1: one hit or quitter boo. Watch the head go bop there.

1671
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 1: Oh man, that's a nice shot.

1672
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 2: That's some brilliant shit. Let's go over to UFC Fight

1673
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 2: Night in Vegas, Luke. Unfortunately, on Friday, inaugural Flyway chimp

1674
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:26,559
Speaker 2: Nico Montano was trying to weigh in for her bandam

1675
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:28,479
Speaker 2: Way a bout at one thirty five, Luke. She came

1676
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:32,599
Speaker 2: in at one forty three and the fight got scrapped. Look,

1677
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 2: I kind of wonder if this is the end, right.

1678
01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 1: You know what. Here's what I'll say about Nico. I've

1679
01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 1: interviewed her a few times. I do think, genuinely she's

1680
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:43,560
Speaker 1: a nice person. I do think genuinely she cares. I

1681
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 1: think she's had a hard life. I think she's had

1682
01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 1: a really hard past few years, no doubt about it.

1683
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:51,040
Speaker 1: The thing that got me was afterwards she put out

1684
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:53,320
Speaker 1: a statement. You know, because you could come in seven over,

1685
01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:55,599
Speaker 1: you know as well as I do. BC. You come

1686
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:57,800
Speaker 1: in one over, Hey, that happens, you come in two

1687
01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:01,559
Speaker 1: maybe three over. It could have been more disciplined. Maybe

1688
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:04,760
Speaker 1: it was short notice. Whatever, you come in seven over,

1689
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:08,479
Speaker 1: where you're almost at the next weight class, you either

1690
01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:11,639
Speaker 1: have an injury that you didn't disclose, or something went

1691
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 1: terribly wrong in the whole process. So she put out

1692
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:17,599
Speaker 1: a statement later and it was rather lengthy. But one

1693
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 1: of the things she was saying was because of all

1694
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:22,800
Speaker 1: the harm she's done from weightcutting and blah blah blah,

1695
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 1: it's just harder for her metabolic rate to be in

1696
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:27,519
Speaker 1: a position where she can keep the weight off of

1697
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 1: her even though she's eating a lot less, And I'm like,

1698
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:32,960
Speaker 1: here's the thing for me. Man, It's like if someone

1699
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 1: was telling me I couldn't do this show anymore or

1700
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:37,599
Speaker 1: even MMA stuff anymore, and I had to go figure

1701
01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 1: something out that would be very very hard for me,

1702
01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:41,479
Speaker 1: Like I would. I don't know what I would do,

1703
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 1: quite frankly, I mean I'd figure it out, but I'm

1704
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 1: sure to be extremely difficult, So i don't want to

1705
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:49,720
Speaker 1: be the guy, but like, you should go do something else.

1706
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:52,559
Speaker 1: At the same time, if this was my sister and

1707
01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:54,400
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think about it like that, like somebody

1708
01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:57,439
Speaker 1: I cared about a lot, she was telling me that

1709
01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:03,000
Speaker 1: her ability to who like she couldn't even eat food

1710
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:06,120
Speaker 1: and lose the weight because her metabolism was so wrecked

1711
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:10,040
Speaker 1: from years of weightcutting. Whatever else I would tell her

1712
01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:13,000
Speaker 1: to stop jeopardizing her health. I would say that I

1713
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 1: don't or move up a weight class or something, because dude,

1714
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:19,439
Speaker 1: she used to fight at one twenty five. She got

1715
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:21,120
Speaker 1: for one thirty five five.

1716
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:22,479
Speaker 2: She weighed one forty three.

1717
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:24,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, something was terrible.

1718
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 2: Pile on Luke because I always felt she got a

1719
01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 2: raw deal I never even thought that that title should

1720
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:32,120
Speaker 2: have been created at that time, nor used the tough

1721
01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:34,720
Speaker 2: model system, and then they stripped her, you know where

1722
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:36,400
Speaker 2: it didn't make sense. Look, do you remember when they

1723
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:39,600
Speaker 2: originally were gonna book Nico against Chefchenko and she Chefchenko

1724
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:42,799
Speaker 2: was like a minus you know, eighty six thousand favorite.

1725
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:44,439
Speaker 4: I mean that that would have been bad. That would

1726
01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 4: have been very bad.

1727
01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 1: That would have been ugly.

1728
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 4: All right, let's keep it going.

1729
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:51,599
Speaker 2: UFC, Hey, Luke coach Edmund has another Armenian hammer. His

1730
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 2: name is Melsic Bagdasarian. And look at this headkick in

1731
01:18:56,280 --> 01:19:00,120
Speaker 2: his UFC debut against Colin Englin. Hell of a finish here.

1732
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 1: This kid looked good. The only criticism I would have,

1733
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 1: and it's very mild. I want to point out, it's

1734
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:12,120
Speaker 1: very mild. He throws everything with evil intention, Yeah, which

1735
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:15,000
Speaker 1: is fine at the stage of the career that he's in,

1736
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:18,280
Speaker 1: but against the better guys, that won't be enough to

1737
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 1: put him away. And so you have to have a

1738
01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:22,680
Speaker 1: second and third level where you've got the cardio that

1739
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 1: the last and everything else. He's still working it out,

1740
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:28,160
Speaker 1: no problem. He was unbelievable that night. But to get

1741
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 1: to the next level, which he's got all the talent

1742
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 1: to do. Some change is going to have to be

1743
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 1: in order. But that night he was. He was unbeatable.

1744
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:38,600
Speaker 2: Good head movement too. Absolutely, look your brethren shining on

1745
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 2: this one. Let's go over to Jared Gordon in the

1746
01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:43,639
Speaker 2: welterweight division. You see this right hand ko of Nick

1747
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:45,120
Speaker 2: Las Stoles.

1748
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:48,800
Speaker 1: Ooh, took the angle and then set up it up

1749
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:50,760
Speaker 1: right right with a straight down the plack. That was

1750
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:53,280
Speaker 1: beautiful face he stepped out.

1751
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:54,880
Speaker 2: You like this guy.

1752
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:59,639
Speaker 1: Look he I like this. Watch he steps out. Let's

1753
01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:03,240
Speaker 1: see bop uh just double jabbed his way to the

1754
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 1: outside and then fire the right hand home. Yeah, that

1755
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:07,360
Speaker 1: was really nice. I like guys who can set stuff up. Man.

1756
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:08,640
Speaker 1: I think they're the ones who are built for the

1757
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:09,080
Speaker 1: long haul.

1758
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 2: And Luke somebody we're gonna be talking about a lot

1759
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:13,639
Speaker 2: on this show because I think she's my new favorite fighter.

1760
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:18,200
Speaker 2: Strawweight Cheyenne Bays had a hell of a vicious finish

1761
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 2: in the Cole main event after about eighteen fights got canceled.

1762
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:23,320
Speaker 2: Luke against Gloria de Paula.

1763
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:27,599
Speaker 1: Look at that, Luke, Dude. I said it on Twitter,

1764
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:31,400
Speaker 1: this was a mean stoppage when you're elbowing someone from

1765
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:35,479
Speaker 1: mount you know what I mean, Like, dude, that is

1766
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 1: that is fuck.

1767
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:40,240
Speaker 2: She looks she's a mean fighter, Luke, let's be hot this.

1768
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:42,439
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, we'll get into the fighter pace

1769
01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:44,599
Speaker 2: stuff later where she had a lots to fight for here,

1770
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:47,400
Speaker 2: but this is that's some brutal ish And then after

1771
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:51,040
Speaker 2: the finish, let's check out the celebration dance. Luke, can

1772
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:54,040
Speaker 2: you can you give style points on this? Oh?

1773
01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:57,800
Speaker 1: Oh money in the club? Dude. You know what's amazing

1774
01:20:57,840 --> 01:20:59,679
Speaker 1: about this fight is she hits her with the kick

1775
01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:03,040
Speaker 1: as she's getting up, and then pushes her down and

1776
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:04,840
Speaker 1: moves to mountain and elbows her. It looked like a

1777
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:06,640
Speaker 1: schoolyard fight. I mean, it wasn't. I don't mean to

1778
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:09,639
Speaker 1: say that they don't have more like capability than that.

1779
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:12,679
Speaker 1: It just played out that way where it almost looked

1780
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 1: like they were battling in a parking lot. And Jesus

1781
01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:19,920
Speaker 1: Bays was I mean, she couldn't be beat that night.

1782
01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:22,880
Speaker 2: You may remember Bays not only the husband of JP Bass,

1783
01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:24,840
Speaker 2: who's a UFC fighter, But Luke, do you remember when

1784
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:28,280
Speaker 2: Bayes beat Monster Rat Cornejo Ruiz and told her that

1785
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:30,160
Speaker 2: she would meet her in the parking lot after or

1786
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:31,720
Speaker 2: she'd follow her home afterwards.

1787
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:33,479
Speaker 1: I think she meant it.

1788
01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:35,880
Speaker 2: She was asked about that this week at the press conference.

1789
01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:36,960
Speaker 2: Let's go to the audio here.

1790
01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:41,960
Speaker 3: Fuck her, but you know, onto the next one.

1791
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:44,280
Speaker 1: I think we're all curious, did you in fact follow

1792
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:46,439
Speaker 1: that bitch home? Frustrated that one went?

1793
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:51,120
Speaker 3: Man, the staff was on my ass as soon as

1794
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:54,000
Speaker 3: I left that cage. You know. The thing was that

1795
01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:56,920
Speaker 3: was disgusting was obviously the girl spat at me and

1796
01:21:57,120 --> 01:22:00,719
Speaker 3: called me at effingputa. But not even our coach shook

1797
01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:03,439
Speaker 3: my hand or my coach's hand. You know, they're all

1798
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:05,920
Speaker 3: cowards in my eyes for the night. And I still

1799
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:08,800
Speaker 3: think so. And no, I did not get to follow her,

1800
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:10,439
Speaker 3: but when I see her, she better step up.

1801
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:12,680
Speaker 1: Do you like it's I mean, I guess maybe not

1802
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:14,800
Speaker 1: among casual fans, but among hardcores. That's a pretty well

1803
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:16,840
Speaker 1: quoted line. It's become a little bit famous. I mean,

1804
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:18,200
Speaker 1: do you do you like that that's a part of

1805
01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 1: your reputation or do you think? Oh I wish I

1806
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:20,879
Speaker 1: wouldn't have said.

1807
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:23,240
Speaker 3: That, not at all. I'm real. I'm one hundred percent real.

1808
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:25,639
Speaker 3: I'm human. If you're gonna disrespect me like that when

1809
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:27,880
Speaker 3: I give you nothing but respect, you bet your ass.

1810
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:29,360
Speaker 3: I want to slap the shit out of you after

1811
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:31,800
Speaker 3: the fight. I mean, what pisses me off the most

1812
01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:34,800
Speaker 3: is you shook my hand at Wighan's knowing damn well

1813
01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:37,760
Speaker 3: what you were gonna do after the fight. That right

1814
01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:39,280
Speaker 3: there has coward written all over it.

1815
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:46,360
Speaker 2: Bach Wow, Luke bro shout out to John Morgan for

1816
01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:47,559
Speaker 2: asking the hard questions there.

1817
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:50,519
Speaker 4: But Luke, she's she's pretty real. She's pretty real, dude.

1818
01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:53,599
Speaker 1: Well you better show up with flowers on Valentine's Day.

1819
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:54,200
Speaker 1: Good lord.

1820
01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:57,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, she brought it right there. Mara, you heard a

1821
01:22:57,360 --> 01:22:58,639
Speaker 2: calm because it was an interesting story.

1822
01:22:58,680 --> 01:22:58,760
Speaker 1: Here.

1823
01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 4: Let's go to outdoor Mma, Luke.

1824
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:03,960
Speaker 2: The promotion is called Strelka Street Fights, and this is

1825
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:05,839
Speaker 2: literally pounding sand Luke.

1826
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:13,360
Speaker 1: Dude, hands down, It's a head kick from hell and

1827
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:16,200
Speaker 1: then just flops back. He does. He testified in church.

1828
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:18,200
Speaker 2: You see, this is what happens if you get the

1829
01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:20,880
Speaker 2: thirty days free of showtime and you don't like it. Okay,

1830
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:21,960
Speaker 2: this is what happens.

1831
01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:23,720
Speaker 1: Luke said. Maybe he was just feeling the gospel of

1832
01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:25,919
Speaker 1: the Holy Ghost. BC, it's possible.

1833
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 2: All right, Let's go to the Olympic Games in Tokyo

1834
01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:33,439
Speaker 2: Judoka Martina traj Dose of Germany getting fired up by

1835
01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:37,280
Speaker 2: her coach before this event. Luke, what kind of to

1836
01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:40,880
Speaker 2: quote Chris Rock. I'll never hit a girl, but I'll

1837
01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:42,160
Speaker 2: shake the ship out of her. Luke.

1838
01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:44,599
Speaker 1: Right, let me tell you some those those Judo geees

1839
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:46,640
Speaker 1: are super thick. You can probably shake the ship of

1840
01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:49,080
Speaker 1: someone that way. And you know, listen a little bit

1841
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:51,639
Speaker 1: of pop pop like that. Hey, that's good stuff.

1842
01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:53,400
Speaker 2: That's that's assault. Brother.

1843
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:54,760
Speaker 4: Wow, let's keep it going here.

1844
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:58,879
Speaker 2: Olympic boxing late heavyweight Imam Katayev of Russia.

1845
01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:04,280
Speaker 1: Oh that look, I didn't see that one.

1846
01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:05,519
Speaker 2: Made him do the stinky leg.

1847
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 1: And then to the dude from Spain, poor bastard.

1848
01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:12,600
Speaker 2: Yikes. All right, let's go over to Moroccan boxer Eunice

1849
01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:16,000
Speaker 2: ba La Luke, he's going all Tyson Holyfield on him

1850
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:17,840
Speaker 2: right here. Take a bite out of crime.

1851
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:21,479
Speaker 1: Wow. You know, maybe he was just hungry, Maybe he

1852
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:22,519
Speaker 1: needed Snickers. I don't know.

1853
01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:24,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you see a j McKee trying to get that

1854
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:25,960
Speaker 2: Snicker sponsorship here.

1855
01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:27,400
Speaker 1: You know it was he was trying. That was the

1856
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 1: you know what that was the one miss that was snickers.

1857
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 1: Are you not satisfied? I'm like, I know you, I

1858
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:34,479
Speaker 1: know you planned that in the mirror. AJ And I

1859
01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:36,080
Speaker 1: don't know if it's gonna work. Maybe I hope it

1860
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:37,880
Speaker 1: does work for but if it doesn't, I'm gonna call him,

1861
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:38,680
Speaker 1: call him on it.

1862
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:41,000
Speaker 2: Look, this may not be the same era as the

1863
01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:44,080
Speaker 2: Dream Team running circles around Angola, but check out Drew

1864
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:47,519
Speaker 2: Holliday here of Team USA school Ball in this guy

1865
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:48,479
Speaker 2: right through the wickets.

1866
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:51,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, people don't understand what it was like when the

1867
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 1: Dream Team was there. It was like honestly the Globe

1868
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:58,439
Speaker 1: Trotters versus the Washington Senators whatever they're called. But uh,

1869
01:24:58,560 --> 01:24:59,840
Speaker 1: every once in a while you get a good moment

1870
01:24:59,880 --> 01:25:01,120
Speaker 1: here on the international scene.

1871
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:04,839
Speaker 2: Eddie Hearn resurrected his fight camp at Mattroom Sport Headquarters

1872
01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:08,960
Speaker 2: Luke outside of London on Saturday, and your boy Avney Yielderham,

1873
01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 2: fresh off the Canelo loss, got carved up by Jack Collin. Look,

1874
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 2: this was a super middleweight title eliminator. Colin beat the

1875
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:18,599
Speaker 2: bags off of him for twelve rounds with that speedy

1876
01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 2: jab Luke. Do you know Collin's nickname Little Levers meat Cleaver,

1877
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:27,160
Speaker 2: that's his nickname. I post this on here to expose

1878
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:31,320
Speaker 2: the ridiculousness of boxing's mandatory system. Your boy, Avney Luke

1879
01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:33,280
Speaker 2: is fading away pretty quickly here.

1880
01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:34,439
Speaker 1: Nice win.

1881
01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:38,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's keep it rolling here. Elite fighters

1882
01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 2: one in Poland, Luke. This was a bizarre MMA event

1883
01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:44,320
Speaker 2: in which Gribacca Hitman was all over it, Luke. They

1884
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:48,000
Speaker 2: had a three on one match and it it went

1885
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:50,960
Speaker 2: exactly how you would guess it would, Luke, poor poor

1886
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:51,679
Speaker 2: bastard here.

1887
01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:56,840
Speaker 1: So does he become a member of the Bloods or

1888
01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:58,599
Speaker 1: crips after that? Yeah?

1889
01:25:58,600 --> 01:26:03,120
Speaker 2: This is the initiation. This is this very similar to

1890
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:05,720
Speaker 2: your frat boy, uh pledge night.

1891
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:08,320
Speaker 4: I'm sure, but uh uh who?

1892
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:09,639
Speaker 2: Why why? Luke?

1893
01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:13,559
Speaker 1: Why are they all? Are they all going to bang now?

1894
01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:19,360
Speaker 2: Also on this card, Luke, check out this pre fight

1895
01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 2: dance by this Polish fighter.

1896
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:23,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. I saw this. I saw this, and I was

1897
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:27,160
Speaker 1: thinking about this. My wife watches Love Island and my

1898
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:32,080
Speaker 1: only hope for my daughter is yeah, yeah that's it. Look,

1899
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:34,320
Speaker 1: I was thinking to myself, I'm like, I hope my daught,

1900
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:36,000
Speaker 1: like my daughter does not have to be on the

1901
01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:39,040
Speaker 1: scripts National spelling bee or being Olympian or anything like that.

1902
01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:40,720
Speaker 1: Just don't do that.

1903
01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:43,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't don't go to the poll. Ah wow, Monique

1904
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:46,439
Speaker 2: saying Love Island UK is severely underrated. He's got a

1905
01:26:46,479 --> 01:26:48,919
Speaker 2: lot of time on his hands. All right, one check, maybe.

1906
01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:50,479
Speaker 1: Less Love Island UK more books.

1907
01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:54,120
Speaker 4: There minis one championship battleground.

1908
01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:58,840
Speaker 2: Luke, did you see the Burmese python on law in song?

1909
01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:00,960
Speaker 2: You know our boy in the New Year's guy sending

1910
01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:02,759
Speaker 2: Leandro a.

1911
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:05,880
Speaker 1: Table old lang zine here, will fucking put hands on you?

1912
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:08,080
Speaker 1: That dude is very, very good. Is he the best

1913
01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:10,400
Speaker 1: light heavyweight on earth? Now? But he's good.

1914
01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:13,720
Speaker 2: It's a new year, indeed, new day. All right, Luke,

1915
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:17,440
Speaker 2: Let's go over to Foreman, former Cuban Olympic wrestler Gustavo

1916
01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:22,920
Speaker 2: Belart with the flying groinstrike on Rioto Dragonboy Swata. Luke,

1917
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:25,960
Speaker 2: this was men's strawweight. I thought at first it was

1918
01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:30,080
Speaker 2: like like small people wrestling, But Luke, it's it's men's strawweight.

1919
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:31,400
Speaker 4: Will this pick up in the UFC?

1920
01:27:31,439 --> 01:27:32,400
Speaker 2: Get involved? What do you think?

1921
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:35,920
Speaker 1: There are a smaller weight classes. There's also women's atom weight,

1922
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:39,200
Speaker 1: which is one oh five. I don't know that there's

1923
01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:40,920
Speaker 1: gonna be a big market for it outside of Latin

1924
01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:42,960
Speaker 1: America or Asia, but who knows.

1925
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:46,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dana's not employing these guys anytime soon. All Right,

1926
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:50,840
Speaker 2: Summer concert sison is heating up, Luke. Here's Jorge Mosvidal

1927
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:54,360
Speaker 2: appearing at a Steve Ioki show and throwing some cake

1928
01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:57,480
Speaker 2: at the fans. Luke, What heck is this about?

1929
01:27:58,200 --> 01:27:59,120
Speaker 1: Uh? COVID?

1930
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:02,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, more or less? More or less, Luke, Okay,

1931
01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:05,720
Speaker 2: Ioki's what a famous DJ of some.

1932
01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:07,680
Speaker 1: Some ring Yeah? I guess so. Yeah, I think I've

1933
01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:09,920
Speaker 1: seen him. His name circulated in that way.

1934
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:10,439
Speaker 4: All right, Luke.

1935
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:13,880
Speaker 2: Speaking of COVID, Greater Chicago area had a super spreader

1936
01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 2: event called Lallapalooza. That's Fred Durst dressed up as Kenny Rodgers. Luke.

1937
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 2: And did you see this Olympic skit show? Can we

1938
01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:28,040
Speaker 2: zoom in on that please? Maniasch Look at the friggin crowd, Luke. Wow,

1939
01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:30,679
Speaker 2: this is why we can't have nice things in this country.

1940
01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:37,439
Speaker 1: I'm so glad I'm old. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I'm

1941
01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:39,200
Speaker 1: not glad that I'm old, but I'm glad that, like,

1942
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:42,280
Speaker 1: I don't have peers pressuring me to go to this

1943
01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:44,200
Speaker 1: ship because I probably would have done it. You know,

1944
01:28:44,720 --> 01:28:45,280
Speaker 1: how many.

1945
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:46,599
Speaker 2: Masks book you think were there?

1946
01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:46,880
Speaker 1: Luke?

1947
01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:49,400
Speaker 2: How many masks you think there were any masks in

1948
01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:49,920
Speaker 2: that crowd?

1949
01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:53,559
Speaker 1: Only for robberies? All right? All right?

1950
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:56,800
Speaker 2: That crowd was on fire, Luke. And speaking of, let's

1951
01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:59,080
Speaker 2: go over to the soccer pitch. What the hell's going

1952
01:28:59,120 --> 01:28:59,800
Speaker 2: on here? Luke?

1953
01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:03,160
Speaker 1: So I've not seen this, but is there is there

1954
01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:04,200
Speaker 1: a Turkish team playing?

1955
01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:06,439
Speaker 2: I have no idea. I'm a little nervous about it.

1956
01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:08,439
Speaker 2: What that I mean this? This doesn't look safe, Luke.

1957
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:11,000
Speaker 1: That's not again, I don't know these are the Turks

1958
01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:12,519
Speaker 1: or somebody else. I'll just say this if you don't

1959
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:16,200
Speaker 1: if for folks who don't know, the Turkish super fans

1960
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:20,959
Speaker 1: are famous, famous for lighting shit on fire and players

1961
01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:23,080
Speaker 1: at the game and whatnot. Like that is what, dude,

1962
01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:25,280
Speaker 1: I ever tell you that I saw a rivalry in Turkey?

1963
01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:29,240
Speaker 1: This is true, bro. It was h Galta Survive versus Fennerbaci,

1964
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:31,880
Speaker 1: which is like maybe the biggest one in all of

1965
01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 1: Turkish soccer. And I saw a dude chasing another dude

1966
01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:39,120
Speaker 1: with a Donor kbab sword. You know what, donor kbob

1967
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:41,759
Speaker 1: sword is you ever seen those like at the fair,

1968
01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:44,000
Speaker 1: those racks of lamb that turn and they shave it

1969
01:29:44,160 --> 01:29:45,600
Speaker 1: and it comes down and they put it in the

1970
01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:47,680
Speaker 1: peda and then they serve it to you. But it's like that,

1971
01:29:47,720 --> 01:29:50,000
Speaker 1: It's like that long or something. That motherfucker had it

1972
01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:52,599
Speaker 1: by the handle and was chasing another guy with it

1973
01:29:53,160 --> 01:29:55,280
Speaker 1: for you know, having the audacity to be the fan

1974
01:29:55,320 --> 01:29:57,960
Speaker 1: of a rival team. They don't fucking play over an

1975
01:29:58,000 --> 01:29:58,720
Speaker 1: instant bull boy.

1976
01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:00,840
Speaker 2: Let me tell you, I once saw a guy with

1977
01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:02,920
Speaker 2: one arm beating up a guy with one leg out

1978
01:30:02,920 --> 01:30:05,240
Speaker 2: of Dave Matthews concert, Luke, I'm a want at the

1979
01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:06,240
Speaker 2: Meadows in Hartford.

1980
01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:06,560
Speaker 1: It was.

1981
01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:09,960
Speaker 2: It was pretty legendary, all right, Luke. Let's go PBC

1982
01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:12,120
Speaker 2: on Fox from Newark. This had to be one of

1983
01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:15,920
Speaker 2: the worst uh Fox cards ever, Luke. But in the

1984
01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:19,679
Speaker 2: main event, Michael Coffee, the heavyweight prospect and former Marine Luke,

1985
01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:23,280
Speaker 2: he got lit up by late replacement Johnny Rice, a

1986
01:30:23,400 --> 01:30:27,200
Speaker 2: thirteen and six record, Yet Johnny Rice sent sent old

1987
01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:28,719
Speaker 2: Coffee the hell here, Luke.

1988
01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:31,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, Coffee. I was checking him out on Instagram aheaded

1989
01:30:31,680 --> 01:30:34,280
Speaker 1: to this fight, you know, thinking he was just gonna

1990
01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:37,280
Speaker 1: walk through. Dude. He got tore up the entire time.

1991
01:30:38,439 --> 01:30:40,080
Speaker 1: He didn't get stopped in the way that like you know,

1992
01:30:40,120 --> 01:30:42,240
Speaker 1: he got flatlined or anything. But by the time it happened,

1993
01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:45,200
Speaker 1: I wasn't opposed to it Sember five, but that's a

1994
01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:45,799
Speaker 1: bad loss.

1995
01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:46,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1996
01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:49,400
Speaker 2: On the undercard, former lightweight prospect Carl Dargan came back

1997
01:30:49,439 --> 01:30:52,960
Speaker 2: after a long layoff. Look at this uppercut ko on

1998
01:30:53,120 --> 01:30:55,880
Speaker 2: Ivan Delgado. Here Dargan has his back to the road.

1999
01:30:55,920 --> 01:31:00,400
Speaker 1: Look at that whoo man, that's like that uppercut that uh,

2000
01:31:00,680 --> 01:31:02,560
Speaker 1: what do you call it? That tak Davis hit on

2001
01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:03,559
Speaker 1: Leo Santa Cruz.

2002
01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:06,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dargan, of course.

2003
01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:07,680
Speaker 4: Luke married to rapper Lil Moe.

2004
01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:09,559
Speaker 2: I don't know if you know that.

2005
01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:11,680
Speaker 1: No, I don't know who that is.

2006
01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:14,400
Speaker 2: Okay, let's keep it rolling here, Luke. This from last week,

2007
01:31:14,400 --> 01:31:16,120
Speaker 2: we got to play the audio at b k f

2008
01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:19,960
Speaker 2: C Hector Lombard confronted Tyron Woodley for violation of the

2009
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:20,679
Speaker 2: BRO code.

2010
01:31:20,920 --> 01:31:30,160
Speaker 4: Let's go to this. No, No, I can pumping back.

2011
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:39,840
Speaker 2: Right, That's no, that's wrong.

2012
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:46,519
Speaker 1: I want I want.

2013
01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:03,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dave Feldman get in there, Luke to quote show.

2014
01:32:03,520 --> 01:32:07,840
Speaker 1: Te is accusing him of trying to fuck his side

2015
01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:16,240
Speaker 1: chick a double audio in each there we go.

2016
01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:19,120
Speaker 2: That's not embarrassing at all, that double audio, all right, Luke,

2017
01:32:19,160 --> 01:32:22,400
Speaker 2: to quote Brendan Sha, that's not how Eskimo brothers should

2018
01:32:22,439 --> 01:32:22,920
Speaker 2: treat each other.

2019
01:32:23,040 --> 01:32:27,439
Speaker 1: Luke seriously, Yeah, I don't know what the story is that.

2020
01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:29,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't really want to get into people's

2021
01:32:29,160 --> 01:32:31,719
Speaker 1: personal business about who they're fucking in this this world.

2022
01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:34,519
Speaker 2: So like, I don't you know how, but we just

2023
01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:36,960
Speaker 2: make fun of people's weightlifting form, Luke. Let's go over

2024
01:32:37,000 --> 01:32:39,479
Speaker 2: to heavyweight champion Tyson Fury. Is this good or bad?

2025
01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:41,720
Speaker 2: I couldn't figure it out, so I figured i'd ask you, Luke.

2026
01:32:47,439 --> 01:32:49,599
Speaker 1: You know, it's not great, but it's hard to tell.

2027
01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:51,479
Speaker 1: I can't quite His back is rounding like a son

2028
01:32:51,520 --> 01:32:52,880
Speaker 1: of a bit. He's it looks like he's doing like

2029
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:56,679
Speaker 1: Romanian deadlifts, which a little more straight leg. I can't

2030
01:32:56,760 --> 01:32:59,479
Speaker 1: quite tell. It's a bit of a it's a bit

2031
01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:00,920
Speaker 1: of a It's not great, but he might not have

2032
01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:02,040
Speaker 1: that much weight on there. I don't know.

2033
01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:05,000
Speaker 2: Look, we always say in regional MMA, anything can happen,

2034
01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:06,200
Speaker 2: even a rainstorm.

2035
01:33:06,280 --> 01:33:06,519
Speaker 1: Luke.

2036
01:33:06,600 --> 01:33:09,680
Speaker 4: Check out these two fighters having to deal with the slickness.

2037
01:33:09,200 --> 01:33:12,000
Speaker 1: Here I saw this one live.

2038
01:33:12,840 --> 01:33:14,519
Speaker 2: Oh my god, what is happening?

2039
01:33:14,960 --> 01:33:17,640
Speaker 1: Dude? Yeah, keep having outdoor mma dufices.

2040
01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:25,599
Speaker 2: All right, uh, let's go over to the pizza parlor. Luke.

2041
01:33:25,640 --> 01:33:27,320
Speaker 2: You never know when a great fight can break out.

2042
01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:28,200
Speaker 2: Watch this, dude.

2043
01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:30,680
Speaker 1: This one was great. They got they got this is

2044
01:33:30,880 --> 01:33:32,519
Speaker 1: This reminds me of the dudes in Turkey with the

2045
01:33:32,600 --> 01:33:35,080
Speaker 1: donor kebab swords. Yes, they got the little they got

2046
01:33:35,120 --> 01:33:39,280
Speaker 1: the little shovel that comes with the handle for the pizza.

2047
01:33:41,560 --> 01:33:43,840
Speaker 1: You think that was over a girl, Luke, No, I

2048
01:33:43,920 --> 01:33:45,880
Speaker 1: guarantee you this was over like, hey, there it is.

2049
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:52,479
Speaker 1: Get that sword. Get that fucking thing, anchovies. Yes, there

2050
01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:54,439
Speaker 1: was a there was a story. I remember. I think

2051
01:33:54,479 --> 01:33:57,080
Speaker 1: it was the McDonald's on West Fourth, which is right

2052
01:33:57,160 --> 01:33:59,960
Speaker 1: by these basketball courts in the uh in Greenwich village

2053
01:34:00,120 --> 01:34:04,360
Speaker 1: in in nyc uh. I remember there was someone who,

2054
01:34:04,479 --> 01:34:06,320
Speaker 1: like I could have the address wrong, but there was

2055
01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:09,240
Speaker 1: somebody who like was like bitching at the McDonald's employees.

2056
01:34:09,320 --> 01:34:12,640
Speaker 1: Then jump the register and one of the dudes, he

2057
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:15,559
Speaker 1: was definitely excessive. He took out this thing that looked

2058
01:34:15,560 --> 01:34:17,519
Speaker 1: like a wavy sword that must have been for like

2059
01:34:17,800 --> 01:34:20,479
Speaker 1: god knows what, and he began to hit this woman

2060
01:34:20,560 --> 01:34:24,280
Speaker 1: with it, and like there were other women being like stop, stop,

2061
01:34:24,479 --> 01:34:27,040
Speaker 1: you can hear it. I'm not saying he wasn't excessive

2062
01:34:27,080 --> 01:34:29,240
Speaker 1: with it, but I also have a rule. Let me

2063
01:34:29,280 --> 01:34:32,160
Speaker 1: explain something to you. If I'm working minimum wage at

2064
01:34:32,240 --> 01:34:36,120
Speaker 1: fucking McDonald's and you jumped the cash register because you

2065
01:34:36,200 --> 01:34:39,920
Speaker 1: don't like the customer service, I'm gonna bang your over

2066
01:34:40,000 --> 01:34:42,960
Speaker 1: the head with every fucking metal object I can find.

2067
01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:44,439
Speaker 1: I don't give a shit who you are.

2068
01:34:44,600 --> 01:34:47,120
Speaker 2: Fucking call me whatever you want, but you come onto

2069
01:34:47,160 --> 01:34:50,680
Speaker 2: the palace floor Germaine O'Neil's gonna knock you that, and

2070
01:34:50,800 --> 01:34:51,280
Speaker 2: you want.

2071
01:34:51,200 --> 01:34:54,400
Speaker 1: That smoke, don't listen. If you try to piss somebody

2072
01:34:54,479 --> 01:34:57,360
Speaker 1: off and scare them, do not be surprised when you

2073
01:34:57,439 --> 01:35:00,080
Speaker 1: succeed that when that lady got beat he definitely he

2074
01:35:00,160 --> 01:35:01,680
Speaker 1: laid it into her a little too much. But like

2075
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:05,120
Speaker 1: as a general rule, don't come over the counter. Don't

2076
01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:05,360
Speaker 1: do it.

2077
01:35:06,040 --> 01:35:07,599
Speaker 4: Luke, it's right that tatt time.

2078
01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:11,120
Speaker 2: This is in mister, heboss. But Jessica Rose Clark had

2079
01:35:11,160 --> 01:35:14,760
Speaker 2: her image. Somebody wanted a tattoo of her on their thigh.

2080
01:35:14,920 --> 01:35:15,679
Speaker 4: Luke your thoughts.

2081
01:35:15,960 --> 01:35:18,400
Speaker 1: It's actually pretty good. I mean, I can my vision

2082
01:35:18,640 --> 01:35:21,760
Speaker 1: is not is not clear, So Jessica Rose, Yeah, that's good.

2083
01:35:21,880 --> 01:35:25,240
Speaker 1: That's actually very good. It's a little dark, but that's

2084
01:35:25,320 --> 01:35:28,800
Speaker 1: because it's new, so when it heals, it will lighten

2085
01:35:28,920 --> 01:35:31,200
Speaker 1: up a little bit. And obviously the nature of the

2086
01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:34,080
Speaker 1: photograph on the leg is gonna make it hard to duplicate.

2087
01:35:34,720 --> 01:35:39,559
Speaker 1: But Jessica Rose Clark has she's like a real tattoo enthusiast.

2088
01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:41,479
Speaker 1: She's got some really good ones. She does a lot

2089
01:35:41,479 --> 01:35:45,719
Speaker 1: of American traditional stuff, and she's part of this brand

2090
01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:48,320
Speaker 1: called Notorious Bastards, who are kind of really into artsy

2091
01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:51,040
Speaker 1: sort of style of tattoos. You know, the face tattoo

2092
01:35:51,080 --> 01:35:52,640
Speaker 1: is not a personal choice that I would make, but

2093
01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:55,760
Speaker 1: that's a decent That's a decent tattoo right there.

2094
01:35:56,040 --> 01:35:58,439
Speaker 4: All right, Hey, let's go over to the amateur wrestling match.

2095
01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:00,680
Speaker 2: Luke. There's two guys wrestling here, and one of them

2096
01:36:01,080 --> 01:36:03,559
Speaker 2: is rock hard with emotion. Looke, what do you call

2097
01:36:03,640 --> 01:36:04,120
Speaker 2: this move?

2098
01:36:07,439 --> 01:36:07,960
Speaker 4: Flatio?

2099
01:36:08,720 --> 01:36:10,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, blow job? I mean, I'm not sure what you

2100
01:36:10,479 --> 01:36:16,920
Speaker 1: want me to call it? They fucking wow?

2101
01:36:17,040 --> 01:36:18,960
Speaker 2: If there's that a North South Luke, I don't know,

2102
01:36:19,000 --> 01:36:22,920
Speaker 2: I mean, what is going on here? Wow? Okay, Yike's

2103
01:36:22,920 --> 01:36:24,680
Speaker 2: all right, look I got one more for you. We

2104
01:36:24,720 --> 01:36:26,920
Speaker 2: were able to get into the Dolorean and head to

2105
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:29,120
Speaker 2: the future. This is Luke Thomas in ten years.

2106
01:36:32,600 --> 01:36:41,599
Speaker 1: First of all, he's not nearly fat enough. Well, God

2107
01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:45,559
Speaker 1: bless this man. You know what? This guy's like, free.

2108
01:36:45,479 --> 01:36:47,240
Speaker 2: Fun lunch with people.

2109
01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:50,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, I mean, can you blame him? Look at

2110
01:36:50,360 --> 01:36:50,760
Speaker 1: these women.

2111
01:36:51,120 --> 01:36:53,679
Speaker 2: He's like, let me get a slice with an LBB please?

2112
01:36:53,840 --> 01:36:56,639
Speaker 2: Uh big bbl sorry BBL?

2113
01:36:57,200 --> 01:37:01,240
Speaker 1: Do you want to stare? I mean, this guy's you know, no, dude.

2114
01:37:01,479 --> 01:37:03,760
Speaker 1: First of all, that's you with the dyed hair number one.

2115
01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:07,719
Speaker 2: Oh, come on, come on, I'm staying gray, Luke, stay Gray. Okay,

2116
01:37:07,960 --> 01:37:08,320
Speaker 2: there we go.

2117
01:37:08,680 --> 01:37:09,920
Speaker 4: All right, that's the ship for the week.

2118
01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:10,599
Speaker 2: That's all I got.

2119
01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:10,880
Speaker 1: Luke.

2120
01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:11,479
Speaker 2: All right, that's it.

2121
01:37:12,360 --> 01:37:14,040
Speaker 1: All right, Well that in mind, let's go back to

2122
01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:16,840
Speaker 1: odds and ends. BC. What do you have for odds

2123
01:37:17,000 --> 01:37:17,840
Speaker 1: and or ends?

2124
01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:18,280
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2125
01:37:18,360 --> 01:37:22,080
Speaker 2: Look, this was an emotional win for Cheyennebays. I want

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Speaker 2: to play a couple of clips here and talk about

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Speaker 2: this quick and bring the story to light. This was

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Speaker 2: her reaction to getting the fifty thousand dollars bonus Luke

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01:37:31,320 --> 01:37:33,400
Speaker 2: from her victory, which was bumped up to the co

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Speaker 2: main event. We talk about fighter pay and how much

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01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:38,439
Speaker 2: it costs for these fighters to even try to train

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Speaker 2: and live. This is an interesting turn of events. Let's

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Speaker 2: go to that menij.

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Speaker 3: I am negative in my account right now, so it's

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01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:49,160
Speaker 3: going to make a big difference. And my whole paycheck

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01:37:49,240 --> 01:37:52,960
Speaker 3: actually is I have to pay back fifteen thousand dollars

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01:37:53,080 --> 01:37:55,760
Speaker 3: for a loan I got from a few people. So

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01:37:56,360 --> 01:37:58,360
Speaker 3: you know, I made ten and ten for my win

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01:37:58,479 --> 01:38:00,680
Speaker 3: and my win and show, so that's twenty thousand was

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01:38:00,760 --> 01:38:03,040
Speaker 3: just gone. So and I was okay with it. I

2141
01:38:03,200 --> 01:38:05,439
Speaker 3: was okay if I wanted. That check was gone because

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01:38:05,479 --> 01:38:07,320
Speaker 3: I made I made the move out here, and I

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01:38:07,400 --> 01:38:09,439
Speaker 3: knew that this fight was just gonna be for the move.

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Speaker 3: But it was the best decision me and my husband

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01:38:12,040 --> 01:38:15,080
Speaker 3: made for our careers and just to get that bonus.

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Speaker 3: I've been so broke my whole life because of this sport,

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01:38:20,640 --> 01:38:23,320
Speaker 3: but it's so worth it to me because I love

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01:38:23,360 --> 01:38:25,719
Speaker 3: this sport. But to get a fifty thousand dollars paycheck,

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01:38:26,439 --> 01:38:28,599
Speaker 3: you know, my husband's gonna tell me to put it away.

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01:38:28,640 --> 01:38:30,560
Speaker 3: I'm definitely gonna want to buy some nice stuff, but

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01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:34,679
Speaker 3: you know, I like, I like to buy a little

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01:38:34,720 --> 01:38:36,640
Speaker 3: bit of things for the house and for my animals.

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01:38:36,720 --> 01:38:39,519
Speaker 3: I really like to spoil my family. But you know,

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01:38:39,600 --> 01:38:42,280
Speaker 3: this week, I'm definitely taking my team to go get

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01:38:42,280 --> 01:38:47,120
Speaker 3: a nice dinner. So it's gonna it's life changing for sure.

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01:38:47,200 --> 01:38:49,599
Speaker 3: But I just, you know, got to put the money

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01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:51,200
Speaker 3: away and just go out there and fight again.

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01:38:54,880 --> 01:38:57,679
Speaker 2: Luke. Here's the video of her actual reaction to finding

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01:38:57,760 --> 01:39:00,680
Speaker 2: out in the locker room for her husband that she

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01:39:00,760 --> 01:39:02,840
Speaker 2: had gotten the fifty k for that victory.

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Speaker 1: You got smmons of the night. Yeah, let's go.

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01:39:16,479 --> 01:39:19,240
Speaker 2: Shot desert.

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01:39:21,200 --> 01:39:25,800
Speaker 1: Hey, Scavite Rhinos got a girl.

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01:39:31,760 --> 01:39:37,640
Speaker 2: So, Luke, we talk a lot about fighter pay, and

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01:39:37,680 --> 01:39:40,000
Speaker 2: a lot of times our discussion is centered upon like

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01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:43,080
Speaker 2: John Jones, right, Like, you know, is is it enough

2167
01:39:43,120 --> 01:39:44,720
Speaker 2: for him to make you know, a million and a

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01:39:44,760 --> 01:39:47,479
Speaker 2: half in a fighter should given his history and where

2169
01:39:47,520 --> 01:39:50,640
Speaker 2: he stands uh old time and his star power, you know,

2170
01:39:50,680 --> 01:39:53,479
Speaker 2: he should probably be making four, five, six, seven million whatever.

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01:39:53,680 --> 01:39:56,080
Speaker 2: Or Hey, Connor McGregor, I bet you he made forty

2172
01:39:56,120 --> 01:39:58,960
Speaker 2: million as opposed to the three that got reported.

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01:39:59,400 --> 01:40:02,559
Speaker 4: Look, this is the real fighter pay story right here.

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01:40:03,160 --> 01:40:05,120
Speaker 2: I know that this card kind of fell apart and

2175
01:40:05,200 --> 01:40:08,160
Speaker 2: had fights fall out, and you know UFC didn't intend

2176
01:40:08,320 --> 01:40:10,840
Speaker 2: Cheyenne Base to be in the co main event. She

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01:40:10,920 --> 01:40:14,519
Speaker 2: got paid ten and ten and she was like literally

2178
01:40:14,680 --> 01:40:17,320
Speaker 2: risking it all and said, I went in there ready

2179
01:40:17,439 --> 01:40:19,519
Speaker 2: to die in that cage if I had to, because

2180
01:40:19,560 --> 01:40:22,360
Speaker 2: I love the sport and I'm in the negative, and

2181
01:40:22,520 --> 01:40:25,120
Speaker 2: it cost more to do the training camp than I

2182
01:40:25,240 --> 01:40:27,920
Speaker 2: was gonna get paid even if I won. I mean, look,

2183
01:40:28,040 --> 01:40:31,240
Speaker 2: that's the real fighter pay issue right there, that a

2184
01:40:31,520 --> 01:40:34,639
Speaker 2: fight of the night could could literally change her life.

2185
01:40:36,680 --> 01:40:38,559
Speaker 2: That's what I want to see cleaned up in the sport.

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01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:41,120
Speaker 2: I mean, if it was the first fight of the night. Look,

2187
01:40:41,160 --> 01:40:43,320
Speaker 2: you look at the payouts in a boxing match. God,

2188
01:40:43,439 --> 01:40:45,040
Speaker 2: guys in the first fight of the night off TV

2189
01:40:45,080 --> 01:40:46,519
Speaker 2: are getting paid like two thousand dollars.

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01:40:46,560 --> 01:40:48,200
Speaker 1: That's not any if that.

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01:40:48,600 --> 01:40:51,840
Speaker 2: But this is somebody on you know, National TV or

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01:40:51,920 --> 01:40:55,120
Speaker 2: on ESPN Plus in a Coal Maine event, You're gonna

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01:40:55,120 --> 01:40:57,360
Speaker 2: pay ten and ten, Luke. I mean, you can bring

2194
01:40:57,439 --> 01:40:59,679
Speaker 2: out John s Nash all you want. If Dana's gonna

2195
01:40:59,680 --> 01:41:02,200
Speaker 2: give ag of cash and not report it to the irs,

2196
01:41:02,360 --> 01:41:04,080
Speaker 2: this is the person to give it to these type

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01:41:04,080 --> 01:41:08,160
Speaker 2: of situations, these fighters, Luk are or dieing just to

2198
01:41:08,280 --> 01:41:10,719
Speaker 2: try to stay in this game. They love the sport

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01:41:10,800 --> 01:41:14,040
Speaker 2: that much, and it's, uh, you know, do I want

2200
01:41:14,080 --> 01:41:16,160
Speaker 2: to see the one percent get what they deserve? Sure,

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01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:18,080
Speaker 2: but I want to see all the fighters be able

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01:41:18,080 --> 01:41:19,760
Speaker 2: to pay their fricking bills. I mean this was like

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01:41:20,120 --> 01:41:21,120
Speaker 2: humbling to watch.

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01:41:22,000 --> 01:41:24,120
Speaker 1: Well. I mean I would slightly disagree in the sense

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01:41:24,200 --> 01:41:28,200
Speaker 1: that I think it's death Like, you know, what is

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01:41:28,280 --> 01:41:30,400
Speaker 1: the face of the fighter pay issue. It's sort of

2207
01:41:30,640 --> 01:41:33,519
Speaker 1: a difficult question, and the reality is because there is

2208
01:41:33,560 --> 01:41:36,840
Speaker 1: such a wide disparity between to your point, to your point,

2209
01:41:36,880 --> 01:41:38,920
Speaker 1: like there's John Jones is who you know, you can

2210
01:41:38,960 --> 01:41:41,639
Speaker 1: make a strong argument he's not been paid what he's worth,

2211
01:41:42,000 --> 01:41:46,240
Speaker 1: but he's already worth millions, right versus Shyanne Bays, who

2212
01:41:46,280 --> 01:41:47,800
Speaker 1: has to take out a fifteen thousand long I mean,

2213
01:41:47,840 --> 01:41:50,439
Speaker 1: let's do the math on that fifteen thousand loan. You

2214
01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:53,040
Speaker 1: got twenty thousand plus, you got to pay out taxes

2215
01:41:53,080 --> 01:41:55,280
Speaker 1: and everything else. You get almost none of that back.

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01:41:55,360 --> 01:41:58,160
Speaker 4: That's basically about paying your team flying there.

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01:41:58,320 --> 01:42:00,519
Speaker 1: I mean all that stuff exactly like you're it's it's gone,

2218
01:42:00,600 --> 01:42:04,280
Speaker 1: like you won't collect a scent of that. So that

2219
01:42:04,360 --> 01:42:06,320
Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars and that's going to get tax too,

2220
01:42:06,320 --> 01:42:07,640
Speaker 1: I think. But that will at least serve a very

2221
01:42:07,720 --> 01:42:10,320
Speaker 1: valuable purpose and float her for some time. And I'm very,

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01:42:10,400 --> 01:42:11,640
Speaker 1: very glad to see it. I think she earned it,

2223
01:42:11,640 --> 01:42:12,760
Speaker 1: by the way. I don't think it's any kind of

2224
01:42:12,760 --> 01:42:15,400
Speaker 1: pity case either. You know. So you asked who's the

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01:42:15,479 --> 01:42:20,640
Speaker 1: face of the fight or pay issue, her case is

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01:42:20,720 --> 01:42:22,240
Speaker 1: going to be I think for a lot of folks

2227
01:42:22,400 --> 01:42:27,240
Speaker 1: immediately more sympathetic, and frankly, her need is more immediate, right,

2228
01:42:27,360 --> 01:42:30,439
Speaker 1: she literally needs that money. I remember on a UFC

2229
01:42:30,600 --> 01:42:33,800
Speaker 1: on Fox EVENTBC. I recall this distinctly when Roland de Lorme,

2230
01:42:33,880 --> 01:42:35,320
Speaker 1: who has since been cut, but he had a moment

2231
01:42:35,360 --> 01:42:38,000
Speaker 1: there where he said he needed money. It was hoping

2232
01:42:38,040 --> 01:42:40,200
Speaker 1: for a bonus because his water had been turned off.

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01:42:40,720 --> 01:42:43,120
Speaker 1: You know, this is just fucking insane that this kind

2234
01:42:43,120 --> 01:42:44,880
Speaker 1: of thing would happen. Still, I just don't want folks

2235
01:42:44,920 --> 01:42:46,680
Speaker 1: to lose side of the fact. If this is the

2236
01:42:46,800 --> 01:42:49,760
Speaker 1: kind of thing that gets people motivated to support change

2237
01:42:49,800 --> 01:42:52,920
Speaker 1: for fighters, hey, I'm all for it. I just feel

2238
01:42:53,000 --> 01:42:54,519
Speaker 1: like we should not lose side of the fact that

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01:42:54,880 --> 01:42:57,960
Speaker 1: all of the different people in the UFC all the fighters,

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01:42:58,240 --> 01:43:02,000
Speaker 1: no matter what range they're in, they're all being negatively impacted.

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01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:04,280
Speaker 1: So whatever makes you more sympathetic that gets you onto

2242
01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:08,839
Speaker 1: the case, let's do it. But they're they're genuinely, genuinely

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01:43:08,920 --> 01:43:11,479
Speaker 1: I mean this, They are all owed more. John Jones

2244
01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:13,240
Speaker 1: is risking a lot too when he goes out there

2245
01:43:13,240 --> 01:43:16,439
Speaker 1: and fights unbelievable guy after unbelievable guy and gets paid

2246
01:43:16,479 --> 01:43:18,320
Speaker 1: twenty five percent of what he probably should or whatever

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01:43:18,360 --> 01:43:20,840
Speaker 1: the number may be. So I agree with you. Her

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01:43:20,920 --> 01:43:23,960
Speaker 1: case is like, there's got to be some kind of minimum.

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01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:26,280
Speaker 1: If you're gonna be on national TV you'll win via

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01:43:26,320 --> 01:43:29,080
Speaker 1: stopage in a co main event, that should count for

2251
01:43:29,160 --> 01:43:32,520
Speaker 1: more than it is, especially if you're literally literally destitute

2252
01:43:32,560 --> 01:43:34,800
Speaker 1: and BC, I've been broken in my life and you've

2253
01:43:34,840 --> 01:43:36,680
Speaker 1: been broken your life, and you know what it's like.

2254
01:43:37,040 --> 01:43:38,880
Speaker 1: There are moments where you sit in there, broke, and

2255
01:43:38,960 --> 01:43:40,360
Speaker 1: you look at your life and you say, is this

2256
01:43:40,600 --> 01:43:44,000
Speaker 1: ever going to end? Am I ever ever gonna get

2257
01:43:44,040 --> 01:43:44,840
Speaker 1: out of this hole?

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01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:45,200
Speaker 3: You know?

2259
01:43:45,560 --> 01:43:49,720
Speaker 1: And you just need someone to help you out. Let's

2260
01:43:49,760 --> 01:43:52,080
Speaker 1: give these people some relief, but let's not lose sight

2261
01:43:52,120 --> 01:43:54,120
Speaker 1: of the fact that they're not alone. And who's been

2262
01:43:54,200 --> 01:43:54,920
Speaker 1: underpaid at.

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01:43:54,800 --> 01:43:57,000
Speaker 2: The very least, it was a good story. It was

2264
01:43:57,080 --> 01:43:59,280
Speaker 2: heartwarming to see someone show that kind of emotion and

2265
01:43:59,320 --> 01:44:01,680
Speaker 2: see what just winning that bonus can do for them.

2266
01:44:01,720 --> 01:44:03,880
Speaker 2: But again, you look at the money the promotion brings

2267
01:44:03,920 --> 01:44:07,080
Speaker 2: in and the platform. You know, like you said, if

2268
01:44:07,120 --> 01:44:08,479
Speaker 2: you're gonna be in a coll main evenor on a

2269
01:44:08,520 --> 01:44:10,519
Speaker 2: main card, good lord, I don't care who you are.

2270
01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:12,880
Speaker 2: The minimum should be better than this, right, you know,

2271
01:44:12,920 --> 01:44:15,840
Speaker 2: you should give somebody a fighting chance to to they

2272
01:44:15,880 --> 01:44:17,479
Speaker 2: want to be elite, they should be able to afford

2273
01:44:17,479 --> 01:44:18,720
Speaker 2: to train like they're elite, you know.

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01:44:18,920 --> 01:44:21,600
Speaker 1: One hundred percent. And again we've already been over my

2275
01:44:21,640 --> 01:44:23,280
Speaker 1: odds and ends. I don't have a whole lot to add,

2276
01:44:23,840 --> 01:44:27,439
Speaker 1: but I will say, as Russia begins to develop more

2277
01:44:27,560 --> 01:44:31,120
Speaker 1: into MMA, you're gonna see it in all these different promotions,

2278
01:44:31,160 --> 01:44:34,200
Speaker 1: either natively Russian ones or any fighter that it gets

2279
01:44:34,200 --> 01:44:37,200
Speaker 1: signed to, any promotion, whether it's ONE or UFC or Bellator.

2280
01:44:37,960 --> 01:44:40,799
Speaker 1: As Russia gets better, MMA will get better. Individual organizations

2281
01:44:40,800 --> 01:44:42,880
Speaker 1: will get better. But it does appear to MEBC I

2282
01:44:42,880 --> 01:44:44,479
Speaker 1: don't quite have the numbers on it. I'd be curious

2283
01:44:44,479 --> 01:44:46,400
Speaker 1: to talk to some of the matchmakers over at Bellator.

2284
01:44:47,000 --> 01:44:49,200
Speaker 1: They just seem to have gone all in on whoever

2285
01:44:49,320 --> 01:44:53,120
Speaker 1: is available from Dakistan, like guys we've not heard of,

2286
01:44:53,360 --> 01:44:55,880
Speaker 1: and then they debut them and you're like, Okay, he's

2287
01:44:55,920 --> 01:44:59,120
Speaker 1: ready to be a champion, whether it's Kasan Makaman Sharipov

2288
01:44:59,439 --> 01:45:02,880
Speaker 1: or whether it's Usbin Nikameidov, and there's many other ones

2289
01:45:02,920 --> 01:45:05,800
Speaker 1: as well. I gotta say I think it. Yeah, dude,

2290
01:45:05,840 --> 01:45:09,479
Speaker 1: it's a smart play by Belator. Get these guys locked up,

2291
01:45:09,600 --> 01:45:11,519
Speaker 1: put him in fights that get them ready for the

2292
01:45:11,560 --> 01:45:13,640
Speaker 1: big stage, and get them. But blah blah blah, and

2293
01:45:13,720 --> 01:45:16,400
Speaker 1: then see what happens. And you've already got to Belator

2294
01:45:16,520 --> 01:45:19,519
Speaker 1: champions right now. Right, you've got Valentine Moldovsky and you've

2295
01:45:19,560 --> 01:45:22,799
Speaker 1: got heavyweight dog Vedeem Nemkov.

2296
01:45:23,280 --> 01:45:26,120
Speaker 2: Amasov was born in the Ukraine, but he trains in

2297
01:45:26,280 --> 01:45:28,120
Speaker 2: Russia with Team Fador, Right, so.

2298
01:45:28,479 --> 01:45:30,679
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, he's att he's att.

2299
01:45:30,880 --> 01:45:33,000
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sorry, he doesn't train, but he's there's a

2300
01:45:33,080 --> 01:45:34,679
Speaker 2: Russian Sombo connection there, even though.

2301
01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:37,679
Speaker 1: He's born in a he's a Somble world champ, that's right. Yeah,

2302
01:45:38,200 --> 01:45:40,439
Speaker 1: so you get me that part of the world. So

2303
01:45:40,520 --> 01:45:43,200
Speaker 1: from Ukraine on down the Caucasus, Mountains to Georgia and

2304
01:45:43,200 --> 01:45:45,479
Speaker 1: everybody else. I mean that just is going to be

2305
01:45:45,560 --> 01:45:48,840
Speaker 1: an absolute hot bed. It is smart of Belator to

2306
01:45:48,880 --> 01:45:52,519
Speaker 1: get guys who obviously Uspin Nimerka Medov BC. He's not

2307
01:45:52,600 --> 01:45:53,920
Speaker 1: the best lightweight in the world, he's not even the

2308
01:45:53,960 --> 01:45:56,640
Speaker 1: best lightweight in Belatar right now, but he could be

2309
01:45:56,800 --> 01:45:59,599
Speaker 1: both within a relatively short time frame. Get him now,

2310
01:45:59,720 --> 01:46:02,360
Speaker 1: lock him up and see what you can do. It's

2311
01:46:02,439 --> 01:46:05,080
Speaker 1: a great play and honestly it makes the just for me,

2312
01:46:05,479 --> 01:46:08,479
Speaker 1: it makes the roster so much more exciting. I love it.

2313
01:46:08,520 --> 01:46:09,120
Speaker 1: I love what they're doing.

2314
01:46:09,240 --> 01:46:11,880
Speaker 2: Yes, look you gotta give Scot Cooger credit for this,

2315
01:46:12,080 --> 01:46:14,680
Speaker 2: Like this was a smart direction to go and it's

2316
01:46:14,720 --> 01:46:17,479
Speaker 2: working out, so keep up. Gets it and and then

2317
01:46:17,640 --> 01:46:20,599
Speaker 2: you know, regardless of Bellator, it's getting to the point, Luke,

2318
01:46:20,640 --> 01:46:22,920
Speaker 2: when you look at the Betty Gods, it's like, wait,

2319
01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:25,280
Speaker 2: what counch is this guy from Oh you know, he's

2320
01:46:25,320 --> 01:46:27,760
Speaker 2: Alwa he's the underdog, but he's but he schmeashes. Yeah,

2321
01:46:28,080 --> 01:46:29,880
Speaker 2: I'll put the money on him. I mean, you got

2322
01:46:29,920 --> 01:46:32,160
Speaker 2: a window here, Luke, to make some big cash on Dougastyle.

2323
01:46:32,200 --> 01:46:34,519
Speaker 1: Okay, so yeah, these guys don't even break a sweat

2324
01:46:34,920 --> 01:46:37,519
Speaker 1: these opponents. They look like they're carrying their groceries from

2325
01:46:37,560 --> 01:46:39,880
Speaker 1: the car to the house. And that's how much exertion

2326
01:46:39,960 --> 01:46:42,040
Speaker 1: they have to put out. And they can do everything already.

2327
01:46:42,360 --> 01:46:45,439
Speaker 1: It's wild how good they are. All right, BC, that's

2328
01:46:45,479 --> 01:46:48,200
Speaker 1: it for us. Let's remind folks a few things. Number one,

2329
01:46:48,360 --> 01:46:51,479
Speaker 1: we need some questions for the mail bags. Go scam

2330
01:46:51,680 --> 01:46:55,160
Speaker 1: the system. Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts and

2331
01:46:55,280 --> 01:46:57,800
Speaker 1: from there you give a nice five star blah blah blah.

2332
01:46:58,000 --> 01:46:59,479
Speaker 1: We'll answer them there. You can make them a little

2333
01:46:59,479 --> 01:47:00,840
Speaker 1: bit fun. You can make I'm sporting to this is

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Speaker 1: not quite room service diaries. It can be a little

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Speaker 1: bit more on brand for the typical MK show. But

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Speaker 1: that's how you want to go and do that. We

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Speaker 1: also need you to vote before I forget. Vote, Vote, Vote,

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Speaker 1: Vote vote for us on the podcast Awards. This is

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Speaker 1: You can vote for us the best sports Podcast, Best

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Speaker 1: mail hosted Podcast. And also don't forget the thirteenth annual

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Speaker 1: World MM Awards, where we have somehow found our way

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Speaker 1: onto the nominee list for Best MMA Programming. If you

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Speaker 1: watch this, I know you agree that we are, so

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Speaker 1: why not give a vote? You can go to WORLDMMA

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Speaker 1: Awards dot com slash nominees BC. We will do fan

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Speaker 1: subs on Wednesday and we will do Dead Wrong on Friday.

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Speaker 1: But to do that, people have to email us morn

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Speaker 1: in Combat at gmail dot com. That's the place to

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Speaker 1: get those in.

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Speaker 2: I have something for you to look forward to this week.

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Speaker 2: What do you mean Wednesday's episode of Morning Combat? Are

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Speaker 2: you ready? I got a little something.

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Speaker 4: I got a little something in the hopper call Celebrity

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Speaker 4: Wheel of Death.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, all right, we'll see how that goes. I'm kidding.

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Speaker 1: You have piqued my curiosity. Let's see what else with folks.

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Speaker 1: You want to try Showtime again tonight ten pm in

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Speaker 1: you like it, you can keep it. If not, no harm,

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Speaker 1: no foul, And we got merch Morningcombat dot Store. You

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Speaker 1: can go buy condoms, machetes. It's like Amazon dot com.

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Speaker 1: You can go buy TVs there they're mktvy.

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Speaker 2: I will say, let's give credit to our merch folks.

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Speaker 2: The mugs they put on the Morningcombat Dot store if

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Speaker 2: they're pretty solid. Luke, there you can get some camouflage

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Speaker 2: dad hats. I mean, there's some good new shit. I

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Speaker 2: didn't even know we made that, Luke.

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Speaker 1: That's right. I didn't know we made it either. So

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Speaker 1: there you go. All right, I think that is it

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Speaker 1: for us BC. We'll be back on Wednesday. We've got

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Speaker 1: tons of stuff happening this week, UFC pay per View

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Speaker 1: on Saturday, and then that's it. So for the King

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Speaker 1: of Connecticut Malka Showtime CBS Sports, I'm Luke Thomas. See y'

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Speaker 1: all Wednesday, and until then, all of your gains be loyal.