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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What's up, everybody,

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Speaker 1: It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire, Wednesday, April twenty one.

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Speaker 1: We've got a phenomenal interview today. You're gonna yeah, I

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Speaker 1: know you love him Warren Sharp. If you follow the NFL,

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Speaker 1: It's pretty interesting stuff. I think you're gonna really like

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Speaker 1: the interview with Warren Sharp. Before we get to that,

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Speaker 1: doing heavy NFL Draft stuff here for the next week,

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to quickly follow up on some news

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Speaker 1: Brooklyn Nets, had an m R I still injured out indefinitely. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: I know you care about my my son's fantasy basketball team.

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Speaker 1: Harden was our number one pick. We got to the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: We don't have him this week. We ain't gonna have

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Nets just keep chugging along. They don't

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Speaker 1: inching further and further away from the playoffs. And it's

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Speaker 1: you know they're looking at the play and winners. So

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Speaker 1: of NBA this week. It's time for the hard pivot

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Speaker 1: to the NFL Draft. Here is our interview with Warren Sharp.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's welcome into straight fire. A guy everybody

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Speaker 1: you like analytics, you know this guy, Warren Sharp Sharp Football, Warren,

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Speaker 1: How are you man? I'm doing great, Jason, happy to

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Speaker 1: join you. Thanks for taking the time. Obviously, the draft

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Speaker 1: How do I get where you are? And One of

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Speaker 1: my you know, boilerplate answers is you know, not find

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Speaker 1: I kind of think you you came in a back door,

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Speaker 1: did you Not? I did? Uh. It was more so

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Speaker 1: new way to do things. UM, that's when you sort

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Speaker 1: Is that accurate? My name came up in that story?

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Speaker 1: if mac Jones goes three to San Francisco, then you've

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Speaker 1: got fields and Lance both available to you at four.

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Speaker 1: I think that's when a trade down scenario could occur.

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Speaker 1: But if I'm staying there, I'm probably gonna pitts. Let

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Speaker 1: me give the counter offer, um when has a like?

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Speaker 1: First of all, let me the counter is, you know,

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Speaker 1: just tight end even really matter? Obviously tight end is

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Speaker 1: important to what Smith does, but when you're ranking the

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Speaker 1: most important positions in football right quarterback one, left tackle two,

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Speaker 1: or edge rusher two or cornerback too, is tight end

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Speaker 1: really on the list. The goal with the tight end

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Speaker 1: is to create mismatches and to gain leverage over the

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Speaker 1: defense to be able to win on any snap that

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Speaker 1: you're passing the football. And Kyle Pitts is not going

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Speaker 1: to be the blocking type tight end like Rob Gronkowski is.

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Speaker 1: He's going to be the receiving type tight end like

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Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey is. But he can still get in away enough,

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Speaker 1: which is what Bill Belichick's old discussion port about tight ends, like,

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Speaker 1: we want a guy who can catch the football and

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Speaker 1: a guy who can move around and create mismatches before

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Speaker 1: the snap. If necessary, you can split him out wide,

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Speaker 1: you can line them up in a few different places.

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Speaker 1: He can create mismatches. We don't care if he's not

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Speaker 1: necessarily the best blocker. He just seeds to do enough

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Speaker 1: to get in the way to be out there personally.

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Speaker 1: With the receiving talent, the speed, the athleticism of Kyle Pitts,

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Speaker 1: I would value him above just a pure number one

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Speaker 1: wide receiver because of all the different things that you

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Speaker 1: can do with him. And Daniel Jeremiah had a great statement,

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Speaker 1: and it was if you don't like the fact that

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Speaker 1: you're taking a tight end as high as potentially for

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Speaker 1: just right wide receiver next to his name, and you

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Speaker 1: will be very happy drafting Kyle Pitts as a wide

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Speaker 1: receiver in the NFL in the top five picks. But

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Speaker 1: he could do a lot more than that. He can

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Speaker 1: be aligned in different places and match up in different

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Speaker 1: types of versus different types of defenders to gain even

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Speaker 1: more leverage then a pure number one wide receiver would

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Speaker 1: line up on a number one corner or potentially with

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Speaker 1: cloud coverage. So that's why I like Kyle Pitts and

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Speaker 1: I think he still has value traditionally. No, there's no

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Speaker 1: tight ends that are going to be this great in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. But there's also a pretty big hit um

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Speaker 1: sorry misrate amongst wide receivers that are drafted up high

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Speaker 1: in the NFL too. So a guy who could do

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Speaker 1: more than just be a pure wide receiver, which Kyle

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Speaker 1: Pitts can check a couple of other boxes, that's why

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Speaker 1: I like him. There. Yeah, I'm I'm not bullish on

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Speaker 1: wide receivers in the top ten. I mean, Jamaar Chase

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Speaker 1: is an exception, but I don't know where you are.

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Speaker 1: But Wattle and Smith from Alabama exceptional talents. But there

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Speaker 1: I don't know if a smurf is that a fair word.

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Speaker 1: I mean Davante Smith. We don't even know how much

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Speaker 1: he weighs. Like. I don't see either of those guys

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Speaker 1: going in the top ten. I see some people mocking

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Speaker 1: the Lions two Wattle, We're all young, two Alabama receivers.

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Speaker 1: I actually took a little wager on Wattle to be

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Speaker 1: drafted before Smith. I'm not overly confident, but from a

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Speaker 1: speed perspective, which is a lot where some of these guys,

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Speaker 1: the teams they start salivating about the possibility of a

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Speaker 1: guy coming in with speed like Wattle brings to the

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Speaker 1: table even though he didn't run um at his as project.

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Speaker 1: I really think that that may elevate him a little

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Speaker 1: bit over Smith. Even though Smith has all the credentials

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Speaker 1: to being like the premier wide receiver in terms of awards,

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Speaker 1: I like Waddle ahead of him. But in general, I

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Speaker 1: agree with you. Um, you know a lot about the

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Speaker 1: NFL is finding that quarterback, protecting that quarterback. Um, you

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Speaker 1: still need guys out there to catch the football and uh.

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Speaker 1: But but there are a lot of different ways to

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Speaker 1: evaluate receivers and to try to match them up against.

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Speaker 1: You know, NFL type caliber defensive UH players and dbs

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Speaker 1: and that they'll be going up against. Sometimes it's difficult

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Speaker 1: for teams to get that correct. Um. Alright, Detroit Lions.

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Speaker 1: You know I didn't love the coaching higher, Um I do.

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Speaker 1: I did look at the GM. They brought in the

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Speaker 1: kid from the Rams, and if you look at how

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Speaker 1: the Rams have drafted, they made one mistake drafting a

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Speaker 1: wide receiver in the top ten. It was Tavon Austin,

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Speaker 1: which totally blew up in their face. But otherwise they

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Speaker 1: found good receivers in the second, third, fourth rounds. Um,

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Speaker 1: what do you think? What do you think the Lions

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Speaker 1: are doing at seven? Or are they trading down? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I think that there's the possibility that they do trade down.

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Speaker 1: There's just so many needs. This team is so far

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Speaker 1: away that I think that there's just too many needs

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Speaker 1: for them to uh stick where they are, And I

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Speaker 1: think there will be enough interest, um from various different

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Speaker 1: teams to want to come up and and get potentially

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Speaker 1: a quarterback. One of my guys has the New England

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Speaker 1: Patriots making a trade with the Detroit Lions. Obviously we've

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Speaker 1: got the familiarity their aspect with the former head coach

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Speaker 1: now back as the assistant head coach of the New

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Speaker 1: England Patriots. And uh and and going up and grabbing

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Speaker 1: Justin Fields who uh this mock drafter his names Ryan.

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Speaker 1: He is projecting will fall out of the top three selected.

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Speaker 1: So the Patriots come up and go and grab a

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Speaker 1: quarterback and then the Lions at fifteen go with an

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Speaker 1: edge defender. So that's kind of the thinking from his perspective.

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Speaker 1: I am curious to wrap up mac Jones. I have

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Speaker 1: him fifteen to the Patriots. People think I'm crazy. I'm

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Speaker 1: just not buying it. Um, I just I don't see

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Speaker 1: again only what seventeen career starts. And it feels like

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Speaker 1: just all this chatter in the media is just total

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Speaker 1: smoke screen season. Um mac Jones, what have you seen?

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Speaker 1: Do the analytics love him? Well, the analytics love him

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Speaker 1: simply because of his production is accuracy and all of that.

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Speaker 1: But the question is how do we isolate that from

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Speaker 1: the offense that he was in with Steve Sarkisian and

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Speaker 1: we saw some of the struggles that to a Tongue

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Speaker 1: of Valoa had last season. Who came out of that

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Speaker 1: same team as well with potentially you know, a better

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Speaker 1: receiving class. I think the receivers because he still had

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Speaker 1: Waddle there and he and he still had a Smith there,

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Speaker 1: but then they also had rugs, et cetera. Who was

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Speaker 1: with two of you. But but there's so much that

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Speaker 1: Sarkisian does with that offense to help elevate the passer,

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Speaker 1: which is smart. Every offensive coordinator should be doing it.

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Speaker 1: But then it's a matter of like how much is

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Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator where you're taking this guy in the

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Speaker 1: NFL going to do those same types of things and

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Speaker 1: elevate him there as well. Um, I tend to think

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Speaker 1: that there was a lot of if you said before

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Speaker 1: this draft, who's the guy that you would draft trade

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Speaker 1: three first round picks four, it's not going to be

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Speaker 1: that quarterback. So I don't think you're thinking Jones would

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Speaker 1: be a possibility. He had one massively great season. Um,

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Speaker 1: on the flip side, he's probably a little bit better

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Speaker 1: than even two. It was like, if you're talking about

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Speaker 1: what he did, now, I know he didn't win the Heisman,

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Speaker 1: but if you look at what he did, uh, you

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Speaker 1: know they You've got these receivers, You've got this performance,

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Speaker 1: You've got this production there. It's it is hard to

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Speaker 1: overlook that, so I can understand where some NFL gms

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Speaker 1: fall on him. And if a guy like Kyle Shanam

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Speaker 1: really thinks this is the guy, then by all means

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Speaker 1: go after that guy. I just think it's a tremendous

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Speaker 1: load to give up there, and I would be shocked

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day if it was him.

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Speaker 1: But you never you know, You truly never know, You

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Speaker 1: truly never know. Alright. He has Warren sharp, sharp football analysis,

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Speaker 1: bright guy fun stuff. I love your content, Warren, and

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Speaker 1: keep up the good work. Many thanks Jason, you too,