Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me. We're all about
Speaker 1: that high school drama. Girl Drama Girl, all about them
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Speaker 1: welcome back. This is again season three, just kicking ass
Speaker 1: and take a names. One of our favorite episodes. Uh.
Speaker 1: The original air date was October two thousand five. This
Speaker 1: is our Halloween episode, Season three, episode four, an attempt
Speaker 1: to tip the scales. It's the infamous masquerade party at
Speaker 1: Trick with Fallout Boy. This is a huge episode. I
Speaker 1: don't know how how we shot this and learned like
Speaker 1: regular number of days. I don't know, because there's like
Speaker 1: massive stuff happening. Literally every actor in the show is
Speaker 1: dressed up. Um, everyone dresses up in costume Peyton and
Speaker 1: mouth dance. Uh, oh my god. Haley and Nathan are
Speaker 1: like kissing undercover as Batman and bad Sandy Dan Blackmail's
Speaker 1: the mayor to resign, which was super weird. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: so strange, and it's so he can run for mayor himself.
Speaker 1: And then he asks deb to play along, which zoeks.
Speaker 1: What a what a fun turn of events that was, um.
Speaker 1: And then Peyton decides to pursue a relationship with Ellie,
Speaker 1: which was, you know, a big, huge step. A lot
Speaker 1: of like fantastical stuff in this episode really heightened reality,
Speaker 1: but then some other storylines that really grounded it. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, I said it while we were watching the episode.
Speaker 1: I'll say it right now to kick things off. Haley
Speaker 1: just like calling bullshit on all the game playing is
Speaker 1: the voice of reason in this episode because everyone is
Speaker 1: playing a game. Yeah, yeah, it's true. You've got Dan
Speaker 1: and Debb who were just like peak game playing, Brooke
Speaker 1: and Lucas. You know, Peyton's like will I won't I
Speaker 1: with the Ellie of it all, even though she's even
Speaker 1: though it's very real and sincere with Peyton. It is
Speaker 1: a lot of tug of war. Back in teenager Ship,
Speaker 1: Human mouth Mouth is kind of playing games two with
Speaker 1: the Erica situation. Yeah, I think Chris Keller Keller and
Speaker 1: Nathan also the two of them, and so yeah, to
Speaker 1: see Hayley just acknowledging, and I think Karen also added
Speaker 1: a groundedness to this episode as well. Um, I mean
Speaker 1: Moira always comes through in that way. But we did
Speaker 1: have a lot of fun in this episode. Let's start
Speaker 1: out we talked about I mean, we we watched the
Speaker 1: costume trying on and I remember shooting out with Chad.
Speaker 1: We had so much fun that day. Yeah, you guys
Speaker 1: shot the ship out of that. That was such a
Speaker 1: great sequence. And this was was this our first time
Speaker 1: working with Janice Cook as a director. It was I
Speaker 1: love Janice Man. She came in, she had was so strong,
Speaker 1: she knew exactly what she wanted, but she was also
Speaker 1: really flexible and interested in our ideas, which always felt
Speaker 1: good because often on this show, because we were so young,
Speaker 1: directors would come in and they didn't take us seriously
Speaker 1: as actors, and they didn't take our ideas seriously because
Speaker 1: they thought, well, one of these kids know their kids,
Speaker 1: they don't have they can't really have ideas about these characters, right. No,
Speaker 1: it's not possible that they're so smart they actually earned
Speaker 1: their way into this job, or that we were closer
Speaker 1: to being teenagers than anybody else on the production was.
Speaker 1: And so we could be like, oh guy, it's different now.
Speaker 1: But Janice was one of the rare ones who came
Speaker 1: in and I always felt respected listen to, and she
Speaker 1: really welcomed our ideas and so I was super grateful
Speaker 1: to see all of her work here and she did
Speaker 1: a great job. Anyway, we opened this episode with hey
Speaker 1: Le and Lucas in the costume shop trying on all
Speaker 1: these fun costumes, and Chad had a blast. Let me
Speaker 1: just tell you that day. We laughed our asses off.
Speaker 1: He had so much fun in that costume store. And
Speaker 1: what they did was they didn't have it all planned out.
Speaker 1: They just brought in a real They brought in a
Speaker 1: whole Halloween store of costumes and they were like, what
Speaker 1: do you want to try on? And he just went
Speaker 1: for it. Oh, I didn't know that. I thought those
Speaker 1: were all scripted. Not No, they weren't all scripted. No,
Speaker 1: some of them were. I think Elvis was scripted, and
Speaker 1: maybe the Cowboy was scripted, but it was sort of,
Speaker 1: you know, just a barrage of of all these costumes.
Speaker 1: So that was really it's it's just so fun to
Speaker 1: see the chemistry that you two have together, because I
Speaker 1: buy that they are best friends, Like I totally buy it,
Speaker 1: and you know, and to not have it be will
Speaker 1: they won't they is so rare joy Like there's always
Speaker 1: that like sexual tension in these scripted shows between you know,
Speaker 1: boy and girl friendships. You guys nailed an authentic platonic
Speaker 1: relationship and you guys make each other funnier and make
Speaker 1: each other better. Like, I loved that sequence. Your responses
Speaker 1: to it were so great. It was you know, there
Speaker 1: was just no stress. It was like chatted. I always
Speaker 1: had a pretty good time together whenever the two of
Speaker 1: us had scenes. I mean, we worked at that relationship
Speaker 1: at the at the friendship of those two because it
Speaker 1: did feel so platonic between the two of us anyway
Speaker 1: in real life. So it's so I think that just
Speaker 1: kind of translated really easily. And um, I think we
Speaker 1: just kind of felt safe with each other's friends, So
Speaker 1: it was pretty easy to you know, to do the thing. Um.
Speaker 1: But I loved the figure out your costume for this episode.
Speaker 1: Did you did you try on multiple things? Or was
Speaker 1: it always going to be bad, bad Sandy from the
Speaker 1: beginning they wrote it in, which makes sense. Haley was
Speaker 1: such a Sandy d it was I thought that was
Speaker 1: really clever. I was like, oh, yeah, you amazing, like
Speaker 1: things amazing. Um, you should have been on the blonde
Speaker 1: on the show the whole time. Like, I don't know
Speaker 1: why we didn't just lean into it. You know, this
Speaker 1: was the season where we were like rules back, hum,
Speaker 1: like we don't know what we're doing anymore. Hayley is
Speaker 1: Peyton and Peyton is Haley, and you know, like Deb
Speaker 1: is all of us. Okay, Deb was. It was amazing.
Speaker 1: I was so obsessed with this storyline for dev and Dan.
Speaker 1: I mean, the whole War of the Roses thing just
Speaker 1: dis wrecked me. It was so good and hilarious. Well,
Speaker 1: it's crazy because I can't make up my mind with
Speaker 1: the really heightened stuff, Like you know, Dan walks in
Speaker 1: on the mayor hog tied by prostitutes who don't look
Speaker 1: like prostitutes. It wasn't really disturbing by the way, just
Speaker 1: shoes in bed. That was the part that bothered me.
Speaker 1: But what is happening here? Actually though those girls would
Speaker 1: not have had their shoes on. I'm sorry. Um yeah,
Speaker 1: that whole scene was so turned up to eleven that
Speaker 1: I can't decide if it's comedic relief or if it
Speaker 1: takes me out of the story. Do you know, like
Speaker 1: if it's just so bonkers for me, but it seems
Speaker 1: okay for me. It took me out because we haven't
Speaker 1: seen usually when you okay, you know this, I'm like babbling,
Speaker 1: but you know this as a mom when you're watching
Speaker 1: something that's maybe PG. Thirteen and you're like, I'm not
Speaker 1: sure if the kids should watch this, but I'll watch
Speaker 1: it with them because usually you can sense when something
Speaker 1: it's coming and so and so for a lot of
Speaker 1: parents out there who have been like, oh, One Tree Hill, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a pretty tame show. Okay, I mean there's a
Speaker 1: couple of things, but you can sense when it's coming,
Speaker 1: and you can but just to see that on on
Speaker 1: camera all of a sudden a doorbust open at the
Speaker 1: beginning of the episode. If I was the mom of
Speaker 1: a you know, ten, twelve year old that was watching
Speaker 1: our show at the time, I would have been pretty
Speaker 1: pissed about that. It took me out of it personally.
Speaker 1: You know, we have such good scenes in this episode
Speaker 1: where the little things matter, like Lucas admitting that he's
Speaker 1: like got this heart condition. You know, like we have
Speaker 1: all these really earnest moments that I don't feel like
Speaker 1: we needed the bat ship crazy stuff, like yeah, why
Speaker 1: Dan is just like out of control this season. And
Speaker 1: I don't know if they really thought it was working
Speaker 1: or if they thought, like, let's just see how far
Speaker 1: we can go. I think that's what they thought. I
Speaker 1: think they were like, let's just keep pushing it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But anyway, so they did that the whole mayor with
Speaker 1: the prostitute thing. But this whole, by the way, as
Speaker 1: someone that works in true crime, now, the mayor with
Speaker 1: the prostitute thing is not even far fetched to me anymore,
Speaker 1: Like it is the most common saying every single time
Speaker 1: we traveled for the Sundance show I work on. We
Speaker 1: find out that the old d A either has coerced
Speaker 1: someone like a victim into sleeping with them, or is
Speaker 1: a drug dealer, or like has been disbarred or like
Speaker 1: crazy ship. So it's not far fetched that the mayor
Speaker 1: was doing something hinky. It's just like, how does Dan
Speaker 1: know to break in that second? Dan knows how to
Speaker 1: be everywhere at exactly the right moment all the time.
Speaker 1: That's like his m O. How I don't know how
Speaker 1: he does it? And I don't know how he keeps
Speaker 1: tabs on everybody, But I like Sophia's a theory that
Speaker 1: Dan's put trackers and he sells the cars to everyone,
Speaker 1: and he puts the trackers in the cars. It's the
Speaker 1: only where he's got a hole. What ire missing from
Speaker 1: this show is a panic room where Dan goes in
Speaker 1: and he's just got video cameras of being entire town,
Speaker 1: their houses, He's tapped into his security system, all the
Speaker 1: traffic camps. Dan's just like got him, got him done.
Speaker 1: That's the only way this works. It is, but I'd
Speaker 1: buy it. Why not, I'd suspend believe. I love the
Speaker 1: practical joke between Dan and Debb. It's it gets fun
Speaker 1: in this episode. Barbara does such a good job of
Speaker 1: putting the comedy in it because the Dan being a dick,
Speaker 1: to Dan be a dick thing is like getting exhausting,
Speaker 1: and she makes it funny and gives Paul something to
Speaker 1: play with, because if Paul were just dealing with like
Speaker 1: a hysterical woman, not funny. But because Barbara is just
Speaker 1: she's reveling in this. Those shopping spree so good. The
Speaker 1: taser in bed Girl talk about Hans the trainer was it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what did she say? She said, She's like, it got
Speaker 1: your mattress, it got wet when the sprinklers accidentally went
Speaker 1: off after I threw all your stuff out. That was
Speaker 1: on purpose. She's perfect. I love her. I love watching
Speaker 1: her have so much fun because I think when I mean,
Speaker 1: when with when she started on the show, it was
Speaker 1: it was so serious, it was so much drama and
Speaker 1: heavy stuff, and Barbara is such a bubbly, fun personality.
Speaker 1: I was really glad to see her get to play
Speaker 1: around all um. So let's talk about Peyton a bit,
Speaker 1: because this is there's a couple of things I have
Speaker 1: questions about with Peyton. One of them is in relation
Speaker 1: to Haley, which is Peyton. Uh. We've said before that
Speaker 1: she's sort of the most non judgmental character on the show.
Speaker 1: She's she's really open. Not today, Yeah, I mean she's
Speaker 1: been very like, gives people safe space, you know, gives
Speaker 1: gives people room to be messy because she's so openly
Speaker 1: messy and and just she's kind of a great she's
Speaker 1: a great friend in that way. But with Haley, in
Speaker 1: this particular instance, she's been really hard on Haley. And
Speaker 1: I want to know what you thought about that. Um,
Speaker 1: I mean, is it justified? Is it over? You know? Ye? Well,
Speaker 1: here's what I think. She has a history with Nathan
Speaker 1: that predates Haley, right, and it's not necessarily healthy, But um,
Speaker 1: they have run in the same circle probably since middle school.
Speaker 1: Like you know how there's like kids in the same
Speaker 1: pack run together in middle school and then they date
Speaker 1: in high school, and it's just that pack always kind
Speaker 1: of stays herded together. I feel like they've known each
Speaker 1: other a long time. And of all the people who
Speaker 1: asked Nathan if he tried to commit suicide, Lucas is
Speaker 1: one and Peyton's the other, and they're having to totally
Speaker 1: opposite reactions. Lucas is the one that's like, you got
Speaker 1: to talk to your wife, man, Like you drove a
Speaker 1: car into a wall. That's fucked up, Like, talk to
Speaker 1: your wife, whereas Peyton is like, Nathan is a victim
Speaker 1: in this, and how could you do this? And he
Speaker 1: tried to kill himself, you know, like the gravity of that,
Speaker 1: you know, for Peyton having dealt with death, she's a
Speaker 1: morose character. It's hard not to pull her out of that.
Speaker 1: And I can see why she would be a little
Speaker 1: chippy about it. You know. I was also wondering if
Speaker 1: it's because Peyton has such a history of people coming
Speaker 1: and going. Oh, for sure, the projecting is like totally
Speaker 1: on display here right right? Yeah, I think so too.
Speaker 1: But I also there's something I like about it about
Speaker 1: the friend who doesn't just let you let you off easy. Um.
Speaker 1: I think she wants Nathan and Haley to get back
Speaker 1: to why. She's like, he just said you're hot. So
Speaker 1: if that's the green light you're looking for, go nuts,
Speaker 1: you know it's She's not trying to sabotage anything. Um.
Speaker 1: But she's definitely got a chip on her shoulder. And
Speaker 1: I appreciate that in a way because you and I
Speaker 1: have both been in situations where we know people are
Speaker 1: lying to our face. Yeah you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like when we're like is there a problem and they're like,
Speaker 1: m nope, and you're like this isn't helping, Like you're
Speaker 1: literally lying to my face right out. We could talk
Speaker 1: about it and fix it. And so I appreciate that
Speaker 1: they have a friendship where they can be like I
Speaker 1: like this. Yeah, I know I like that too, I
Speaker 1: really do. I think those are fewer and far between,
Speaker 1: especially as you get older. You know, if you don't
Speaker 1: learn to do that when you're young and make friendships
Speaker 1: with that with people that way when you're young. The
Speaker 1: older you get, the more it's just like, oh, well whatever,
Speaker 1: I'll just make friends with somebody else, you know, And
Speaker 1: it's nice to have lots of friends, but it's also
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's only a surface level if you
Speaker 1: haven't allowed someone to really come in on that in
Speaker 1: that space in your life. Well, and looking back on
Speaker 1: the friendships that we had, not like in high school,
Speaker 1: but also in our early twenties, if you don't practice
Speaker 1: confrontation in a healthy way with your friends, you will
Speaker 1: never be able to do it in a romantic relationship.
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. Fabulis are supposed to teach you
Speaker 1: that do whatever you like. It's supposed to be one
Speaker 1: of the things you're learning. It's like we just slam
Speaker 1: doors and ship, you know, conflict. How do we do it?
Speaker 1: How do we do it? Yeah, it's it's really important
Speaker 1: to be able to say I don't like this, I
Speaker 1: don't like it. And you know, my daughter's at that
Speaker 1: button push and age where she's like, no, I don't
Speaker 1: like it, I don't like it, and I just had
Speaker 1: to explain to someone. I was like, look, I need
Speaker 1: her to know that it's safe to say I don't
Speaker 1: like it. And right now it sucks that we're her
Speaker 1: test dummies, but she wants to be a grown up.
Speaker 1: That's like not working for me. I know, and it's hard.
Speaker 1: It's hard to be like I I respect the fact
Speaker 1: that you don't like this. However, these are the boundaries
Speaker 1: that you have to be confined with him. I'm sorry that, Like,
Speaker 1: I know how frustrating it is to be confined by boundaries.
Speaker 1: They will expand as you get older, but right now,
Speaker 1: these are the rules. And I love you and I'm
Speaker 1: here for you, and I know this sex for you. Sorry,
Speaker 1: good luck, good luck kids. Um No, I was excited.
Speaker 1: Season three is always so nice for me because I
Speaker 1: feel like we were finally being heard in like what
Speaker 1: we wanted out of our characters, and they you know,
Speaker 1: Sophie didn't want to do all the sexy time stuff anymore.
Speaker 1: So this whole internal conflict that Brooke is having, She's
Speaker 1: not having to do anything questionable other than, like, you know,
Speaker 1: give a wink and a knob here and there, and
Speaker 1: it's enough enough. She's so sexy as it as it is.
Speaker 1: I mean that's you don't have to be in your
Speaker 1: underwear to be sexy at all. No, and stuff that
Speaker 1: she has with Chad in this episode, like Broke and
Speaker 1: Lucas are such a fun teenage couple to watch. The
Speaker 1: cat and mouse of those two is what a high
Speaker 1: school relationship is supposed to be. Like, we're not supposed
Speaker 1: to be talking about like getting married and having babies.
Speaker 1: It's supposed to be like, you're hot. What book are
Speaker 1: you reading? Okay, where's my mix tape? Yeah? Where is
Speaker 1: my mix tape? Damn it? Speaking of music? And we
Speaker 1: got Fallout Boy on this show. That was huge. Remember
Speaker 1: how excited we all were when we heard that that
Speaker 1: deal went through and they were like, guys, are brain
Speaker 1: a Fallout Boy? We lost our minds. That was. That
Speaker 1: was one of those days where like we stuck around
Speaker 1: for the sound check, we stuck around for the rehearsal.
Speaker 1: We stuck around for every single take, even if we
Speaker 1: were in the shot, like we were being very compliant. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was like, oh are we during the day we could?
Speaker 1: I don't, I'll stick around out of mind. There's this.
Speaker 1: They were so cool though, I mean yeah, I didn't
Speaker 1: have a crush on them, but I remember thinking like
Speaker 1: I could. I But it was just the fact that
Speaker 1: it was again because we were outside of l A,
Speaker 1: outside of all of all of our own hype. We
Speaker 1: didn't we want experiencing our own hype. It was happening
Speaker 1: outside out there. So it was another validation that somebody
Speaker 1: coming in like that, wait, this is We're kind of
Speaker 1: a big deal. This is really funny. They know our show.
Speaker 1: That's great. So in this episode, obviously like follow up
Speaker 1: boys a big deal. But in the first scene the
Speaker 1: Peyton's in where she's like gonna paint the white wings,
Speaker 1: I'm wearing to he is legend shirt and that was
Speaker 1: That was a metal band and I hung out with
Speaker 1: that was like based out of Wilmington's and I was
Speaker 1: best friends with the lead singer. And I was obsessed
Speaker 1: with these dudes and constantly like, can we promote this
Speaker 1: metal band on One Tree Hill? The most emo show
Speaker 1: on the planet, And they were just like no, Hillary,
Speaker 1: these guys like scream into the microphone like monsters. They
Speaker 1: can't come on One Tree Hill, but you can wear
Speaker 1: a shirt. Um. And so I had duality. I had
Speaker 1: like a band that we were super pumped fallout Boy
Speaker 1: and then representing the local Wilmington's scene. You gave him
Speaker 1: some super exposure. That was a nice scene and it
Speaker 1: was you know, it's not metal joy One Tree Hill.
Speaker 1: We were so not metal, not met all. That would
Speaker 1: have been something that you played and that Brooke got
Speaker 1: mad about. Like you, you would play it as a
Speaker 1: DJ at a party and Brooke would get mad at it. Well.
Speaker 1: I used to take le Norris to their shows. They
Speaker 1: would play at the Soapbox and I'd be like, Lee,
Speaker 1: let's go to a metal show and he got wrapped
Speaker 1: up in a mosh pit one night and he never
Speaker 1: forgave me for it. Was like, why are we here?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's scary. That's actually like one of
Speaker 1: my nightmares. Well, yeah, we didn't have to deal with
Speaker 1: that with Fallout Boy. They just did a lot of
Speaker 1: twirling on stage with that was at the bass player
Speaker 1: that would spin, jumping around in a spinning and it
Speaker 1: was the era of angry, angry prep school boys, like
Speaker 1: everyone wanted to be the dude from a C d
Speaker 1: C and the little like baby shorts. Yeah, the school
Speaker 1: boy outfit. Were they co opting the whole like Britney
Speaker 1: Spears schoolgirl thing. It was like going to the Spring
Speaker 1: Awakening came out around the same time. I might be wrong,
Speaker 1: do you really? Isn't that old? Is as old? And
Speaker 1: I feel like I remember that coming out around then
Speaker 1: and it was sort of the same, and Gwen Stefani
Speaker 1: was doing a lot of schoolgirls short um you know,
Speaker 1: the ska, the bananas, ships, like the tallest socks and
Speaker 1: the plaid skirts, and I just feel like there was
Speaker 1: like a prep school unit form slash punk thing happening
Speaker 1: in culture at the time. Side maybe that's where it
Speaker 1: was from, that's ringing true. I liked that We've got
Speaker 1: sixty days of Dan. The deal is the dev has
Speaker 1: to live with him for two months. Could you live
Speaker 1: with someone you hated for two months if you knew
Speaker 1: you would be set free afterwards? Somewhe Well, the first
Speaker 1: thing she should have done is photocopied those documents because
Speaker 1: right now, girl, we got scan apps on our phone.
Speaker 1: Now into my attorney, save this please two months. I
Speaker 1: mean she's doing it the way I would do it.
Speaker 1: Just being a dick. Yeah why not? I mean, if
Speaker 1: he's got he's just such an ass. Yeah, No, I
Speaker 1: don't know, could you. I don't know, I'm a machine.
Speaker 1: Joy Um probably probably l and I I guess. I'm
Speaker 1: just wondering why she is the deal that she has
Speaker 1: to help him win? Does he have to win mayor
Speaker 1: in order for the like the deal to where I
Speaker 1: don't think he has to win. I think she just
Speaker 1: has to do, like, really play the part like everybody.
Speaker 1: It has to be convincing to his satisfaction. So isn't
Speaker 1: she concerned, like what happens if Dan Scott becomes mayor,
Speaker 1: Like what happens if he gets this power he's after?
Speaker 1: Isn't like shouldn't she be trying to sabotage the campaign?
Speaker 1: Like maybe she was here behind his back. Yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: she will, I don't know. But now she's got that
Speaker 1: signed paper, so maybe she's not so worried about it
Speaker 1: because it's like, well, once he's mayor, then I can
Speaker 1: bail and it'll just be He'll be busy. It'll be
Speaker 1: so busy. I can't believe Dan Scott becomes mayor. It's
Speaker 1: so crazy. I mean, how many people live in tree Hill.
Speaker 1: We're all kissing each other there because only so many people.
Speaker 1: Joy It is a very small town. Yeah, listen. I
Speaker 1: was thinking about it the other day. I was just like,
Speaker 1: you know, the next generation of kids like Brooks kids
Speaker 1: are going to be like, hey, uncle Lucas and Uncle Nathan,
Speaker 1: you slept with those guys like and like they really
Speaker 1: are like Peyton's kids uncles, and you know, like it
Speaker 1: just is that how it is. And I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: not still in New Jersey, so I don't know what's
Speaker 1: going on with the high school crowd there, But with
Speaker 1: the high school you went to, I mean you're still
Speaker 1: in touch with a lot of those people. Did a
Speaker 1: lot of those kids sleep together young and then now
Speaker 1: they're all still friends has grown up. Going to a
Speaker 1: wedding where I was the only person that hadn't slept
Speaker 1: with anyone in the room, and I was like, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's Hollywood is kind of the exact same
Speaker 1: thing though. Sterling, Virginia, Yeah, you're right, you know, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's like it's a small town
Speaker 1: and everybody's on a set with somebody, everybody has location ships,
Speaker 1: and then they move on to the next movie and
Speaker 1: then you know, you're like, oh, yeah, the personal dating
Speaker 1: now used to date like seven other too cool? To
Speaker 1: be forgotten. Text me later. Um, no, I guess you're right.
Speaker 1: I'm trying, Like, because I was so square, I never
Speaker 1: hooked up with anybody. I never slumped with anybody in
Speaker 1: high school. Um, that's a fun tip. Kids just don't
Speaker 1: sleep with even in high school, and they don't have
Speaker 1: anything to feel stupid about. Later. Hey that's the true girl.
Speaker 1: Um so yes, that's you know, when Brooke goes to
Speaker 1: tell Nathan like, hey, there, Sailor, your wife's gonna be
Speaker 1: mega hut tonight, you should show up. We were commenting like,
Speaker 1: we know down the road we're going to find out
Speaker 1: that Brooke and Nathan hooked up with each other. But
Speaker 1: watching the episode now, we didn't know that when we
Speaker 1: were filming it. So they're all like flirty with each
Speaker 1: other and a little like win quait. It just adds
Speaker 1: a slimy. That's one of the downsides of filming a
Speaker 1: TV series is that you just don't have I mean,
Speaker 1: on a on a network anyway. You don't have all
Speaker 1: of the scripts in advance, so you don't it's really
Speaker 1: hard to plan for your character. With a film or
Speaker 1: a you know, limited series, you know what's going to happen.
Speaker 1: In everything, all the backstory and everything. So it's really
Speaker 1: hard when you're filming a series like this and you
Speaker 1: find out new information that really would have affected the
Speaker 1: way that you played your character for the last three
Speaker 1: or four years. Sophia would not have touched his arm
Speaker 1: in this scene had she known they were going to
Speaker 1: come back, you know, in a year or two and
Speaker 1: be like, no, you two boned. You guys did this.
Speaker 1: There's no way she would have touched him. No way,
Speaker 1: she didn't know, sweet girl. He did look really hard
Speaker 1: in that Batman costume. Though, Well, okay, so remember what
Speaker 1: a huge deal that Batman costume was because I feel
Speaker 1: like we got it from like a Batman movie, like
Speaker 1: The Rent Whose was it? Was it Val Killers or
Speaker 1: George Clooney' I'm gonna text James right now and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna ask, yeah, text him, text him and find out
Speaker 1: because that really was a supreme costume. Um, Chad. I
Speaker 1: love Chad's costumes that he finally landed on, like the
Speaker 1: Pirates of the Caribbean and the Tommy Lee costumes are
Speaker 1: great because when he takes off the wig and it's
Speaker 1: blonde Chad with the eyeliner. He and Peyton are the
Speaker 1: same person. It's just like straight blonde hair and eyeliner.
Speaker 1: I loved Peyton's cause while I'm waiting for James to respond, Hey,
Speaker 1: who's Batman costume did you wear in our show? Came
Speaker 1: sending it. Um it was. It was a real costume
Speaker 1: from one of the movies, right, question Mark? I think
Speaker 1: you used the voice baff like I do. I don't
Speaker 1: have time to tape this ship out. Um No, but
Speaker 1: I loved I loved Payton's costume, and I want to
Speaker 1: know the history of that costume. So before we go
Speaker 1: back to Batman, tell me about where this came from
Speaker 1: because it was so original and beautiful. Hey. Thanks. You
Speaker 1: know what's super weird is that, Uh, when we shot
Speaker 1: this episode, we had a goth makeup artist. Um, this
Speaker 1: chick Sandra, who I had done a movie with in Tennessee,
Speaker 1: and she came from the world of opera, and so
Speaker 1: it was used to like making wigs and and doing
Speaker 1: like crazy makeup because she opera. If you've never seen
Speaker 1: the opera, the hair and makeup and opera is it's
Speaker 1: just bananas. So it's on the next level, very extravagant.
Speaker 1: So we couldn't find a wig that we liked, and
Speaker 1: we went through this like tattoo magazine and found a
Speaker 1: girl who had this black and white hair and we
Speaker 1: were both like that that's it. We want red eye
Speaker 1: makeup and we want this black and right wig. And
Speaker 1: so we took two wigs and wove them together and
Speaker 1: it was this thing that we worked on after work together.
Speaker 1: And what's so weird is it's the exact pattern that
Speaker 1: my hair is growing in white right now Like I
Speaker 1: wanted joy. I wanted that hair full time so bad
Speaker 1: at like twenty three years old, and so now when
Speaker 1: I look at it, I mean, look, I have the
Speaker 1: black stripe in the middle, which is how it grows in,
Speaker 1: and then it's just all white on the side. Amazing,
Speaker 1: like Pengel was, it is life imitating arts, so punk
Speaker 1: you got your way, which is girl. It's made me
Speaker 1: unafraid to go great because I was like, oh no,
Speaker 1: people have loved this look on me for a year.
Speaker 1: It looks so good. I love the foreshadowing, by the way,
Speaker 1: it's just so cool. But you looked so good. But
Speaker 1: but the and the wings and everything that that dress
Speaker 1: was it all? Was it a costume they found or
Speaker 1: was this, somebody sketched it out and they built it.
Speaker 1: Do you remember, No, I mean we had fittings they
Speaker 1: wanted like goth angel, and there were some outfits that
Speaker 1: were a little like sexier, and this one was actually
Speaker 1: a really modest outfit. I'm fully covered up, you know,
Speaker 1: the boots cover up a whole bunch. If anything. It's
Speaker 1: got kind of a Frankenstein vibe. Um, and the wings
Speaker 1: were incredibly cumbersome. So having to do that dance routine
Speaker 1: with Lee, he kept getting hit by the wings and
Speaker 1: he was so gracious and just like we had to
Speaker 1: do that thing where we like went up over our
Speaker 1: heads and my arm kept getting like trapped and it's
Speaker 1: like super awkward. But um, let's talk about that dance too.
Speaker 1: By the way, the difference between having to do the
Speaker 1: really like hard sad stuff with Ellie and then be
Speaker 1: super playful with like Lee with Brook scene Rachel all
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. That's what I liked about our
Speaker 1: show is I never feel one thing all the time,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And so being able to
Speaker 1: feel multiple things in one evening. Um, for Peyton, I
Speaker 1: think is authentic, and she's super awkward no matter what,
Speaker 1: like I'm always like, why should be weird? She's just
Speaker 1: trying to figure out life like every young girl out there,
Speaker 1: aren't we all we are At any point at any
Speaker 1: point with Haley in this quest to get Nathan back,
Speaker 1: you know, they have just like put you through the
Speaker 1: ringer um and it's it was like groveling in the
Speaker 1: last episode where it's just like, please please talk to me,
Speaker 1: talk to me, talk to me. Um. What were your
Speaker 1: conversations like at any point where you ever like, guys,
Speaker 1: like I've done enough. You say it in this episode,
Speaker 1: You're like, I'm Haley, that should be enough. Like is
Speaker 1: that the moment of her being like, we're done here? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think it is. And it wasn't something that I
Speaker 1: remember having a conversation with any writers or anything about.
Speaker 1: I was on board with all of it as it
Speaker 1: as it went along, because that is a very natural
Speaker 1: thing to do. When you think you've screwed something up
Speaker 1: beyond recognition, you are desperate to solve it and fix it,
Speaker 1: and especially a girl like Haley who didn't ever really
Speaker 1: take a lot of risks in life. So she finally
Speaker 1: takes two big risks, but one costs her the other
Speaker 1: and you know you're you're trying to figure out your
Speaker 1: identity and who am I and Haley always felt so
Speaker 1: solid and who she was, and then she started making
Speaker 1: these wild decisions and uh, suddenly it's like everything gets
Speaker 1: called into question and does whether Nathan loves me or
Speaker 1: not affect who I am? And for a while there
Speaker 1: it seemed that she did think that that, you know,
Speaker 1: if he if he doesn't love me, that affects my
Speaker 1: value as a person. And so of course she was
Speaker 1: desperate to get that back and make it work and
Speaker 1: get it fixed. When she says, I just wanted you
Speaker 1: to want me again, that's the worst feeling it is.
Speaker 1: It's really the worst because it's the loneliest place to be.
Speaker 1: And I love that moment when she looks in the
Speaker 1: mirror and it's the recognition of I should be enough,
Speaker 1: just me. It's okay. At the end of the day,
Speaker 1: somebody else can make their choices and I can't take
Speaker 1: back the past. I am where I am now, and
Speaker 1: he's going to have to make his choice. And then
Speaker 1: she kind of gets rewarded with this kiss. I remember
Speaker 1: shooting this with James because the Batman costume was it
Speaker 1: was very hot at trick that that day. No, we
Speaker 1: were there for like four days time, and they could
Speaker 1: not figure out the A C. The first day there
Speaker 1: wasn't a C. They had a tube with an outside
Speaker 1: unit that could only be pumped in when we weren't shooting.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. So if we were rolling and
Speaker 1: with many bodies in there, and everyone in a costume,
Speaker 1: and there was a lot of pleather, a lot of
Speaker 1: the feather, a lot of makeup dripping down our faces,
Speaker 1: and that was a rough room to be in. And
Speaker 1: so we all felt really bad, particularly for James because
Speaker 1: he was really I mean I was in spandex it
Speaker 1: head to toe, and Sophia was in a leather skirt too,
Speaker 1: but it was a little breathable. But James was head
Speaker 1: to toe in that leather tank and uh, well, when
Speaker 1: when he takes the cat, he takes the hat off
Speaker 1: and the eye makeups dripping down his face and that
Speaker 1: was also kind of hot. Kidding, they didn't plan that,
Speaker 1: but that was it worked. Let me just let her roll.
Speaker 1: But and I also remember that all the steam in
Speaker 1: that moment when he comes to kiss her, all the
Speaker 1: steam that was coming in behind him. We had to
Speaker 1: shoot that so many times because there was they wanted
Speaker 1: him to come in with his arms up and then
Speaker 1: flap them down right when all of the smoke was coming,
Speaker 1: so it would create this like push of all the
Speaker 1: smoke around him, and it was just I just remember
Speaker 1: it was really hard to get the timing of that
Speaker 1: right with the light and the curtain closing behind him
Speaker 1: and all of the smoke, and I was like, get
Speaker 1: the get the smoke machine going okay, rolling, rolling, okay,
Speaker 1: holding on the roll, and then the smoke has to disappear,
Speaker 1: and then he's just standing there waiting and put it
Speaker 1: put your arms up, and he would put his arms up,
Speaker 1: but then it would push the smoke away by putting
Speaker 1: his arms up, and it's just like such a pain
Speaker 1: and he has so finally he gets it right. But
Speaker 1: you'll see in the episode he flaps his arm down
Speaker 1: and it's just it looks so kind of random, like
Speaker 1: why is he like walking in? Like I was like,
Speaker 1: what's he huffing around about? It looked like he was
Speaker 1: a landing like Batman and then came in for the kiss. Well.
Speaker 1: I just remember them being like, we spent so much
Speaker 1: money on this costume. We're going to use the ship
Speaker 1: out of it, like they were pumped. Every dude on
Speaker 1: the set took pictures with that, so I wanted to
Speaker 1: try it on. I think they went back and try
Speaker 1: it on later. I was a sweaty costume man, hard pass.
Speaker 1: I don't want to put that on my body. To say,
Speaker 1: it was pretty fun to get rescued by Batman for
Speaker 1: a moment, that's yeah, it's pretty cool. It's pretty cool,
Speaker 1: and it's a big part of you know, the One
Speaker 1: Tree Hill, kind of like the iconic moments you getting
Speaker 1: swooped up by your husband. I loved it when he
Speaker 1: was like, Haley always looks hot, like it was such
Speaker 1: a thing to say, just kind of succinct. It always
Speaker 1: looks hot. We were just talking about boys using Batman
Speaker 1: by a couple of episodes ago. Oh yeah, the ominous call,
Speaker 1: I asked when we were watching, there's a picture of
Speaker 1: him and some girl, and we're supposed to believe that
Speaker 1: he's calling some girl high flyers. It's crisp. But but
Speaker 1: when do we have a reference the girl again, or
Speaker 1: did we have a reference her before or was it
Speaker 1: just like a device. I'm confused. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: think she comes up again in the future. Um, I
Speaker 1: can't remember. I can't remember what it is. I mean,
Speaker 1: I get him in the end, but I remember, is
Speaker 1: she like I think maybe like a little romance that
Speaker 1: he had at High Flyers. I don't know. She's like
Speaker 1: the water girl or like the trainer or something that
Speaker 1: Hivelires made a good friend there. I think she does
Speaker 1: show up. I just can't remember. But it is weird framed. No,
Speaker 1: it was on his computer, wasn't it. But he was.
Speaker 1: What's weird about is that he was looking at the
Speaker 1: photo and then called Chris. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's such a strange transition. Anyway, Sometimes things don't make sense.
Speaker 1: You know what made sense in this episode the appearance
Speaker 1: of Danielle Harris at Yes Girl. Let's talk about that,
Speaker 1: because she was also in pleather. Yes, she was a
Speaker 1: very little a little little bit of it, but she
Speaker 1: looked so good. Oh my god, I need you to
Speaker 1: go back and tell everyone about the Pam Anderson crushed
Speaker 1: that we had back like during this era. You were
Speaker 1: obsessed with hers. I just loved her look. And I
Speaker 1: think I've talked about this on the show before. I
Speaker 1: was at one point in my life hanging out backstage
Speaker 1: of Home Improvement. I saw her early early on in
Speaker 1: her career in the white tank top and overalls and
Speaker 1: no makeup, and she was just backstage, just you know,
Speaker 1: chatting with the makeup artist and being super sweet. She
Speaker 1: was very very nice to me and the other people
Speaker 1: that I saw her interacting with. And I thought, she's
Speaker 1: the most beautiful woman I've ever seen in person in
Speaker 1: my life ever, Oh my god. Um. And she was
Speaker 1: also just so kind and sweet and and like a
Speaker 1: small town girl. So as her career progressed, um, I know,
Speaker 1: she got a bad rap and she she did a
Speaker 1: lot of things that a lot of people disagreed with
Speaker 1: or judged her for or you know whatever, And especially
Speaker 1: people and me having grown up in a more evangelical community,
Speaker 1: there were a lot of people in that community who
Speaker 1: really didn't like her. But I always loved her. But
Speaker 1: I don't know, I love Pam. I love me some Pam.
Speaker 1: So uh yeah, I loved Pam Pam and the whole
Speaker 1: time Elie thing. And that was really fun. When I
Speaker 1: saw Danielle come on in that in that little red
Speaker 1: leather dress, she looked bang in man, she looked so good.
Speaker 1: I you know, like this you and I laughed the scene,
Speaker 1: were like Peyton and Brooke are just watching her dance
Speaker 1: with Lucas guys. That was my real reaction, just like
Speaker 1: what is this? Your face was so good? We were
Speaker 1: laughing about that. I was like, I fell so in
Speaker 1: love with Danielle when she first showed up, Like I
Speaker 1: couldn't stop buying her presence. I was just like such
Speaker 1: a dork for her. We had that charity softball game
Speaker 1: with the guys from Surface, and like, I got tube
Speaker 1: socks and I was like, hey, do you want me
Speaker 1: to pick you up? I bought you these tube socks.
Speaker 1: And also, um, do you want pizza? I bought a pizza.
Speaker 1: I just have a pizza for you. And do you
Speaker 1: like coffee? Because I bought you a coffee. I just
Speaker 1: was so enamored with her. It's hard not to be.
Speaker 1: She's so full of life, and she's so smart, and
Speaker 1: she's an interesting person. She's lived an interesting life and
Speaker 1: she gets I think that because she's so beautiful. Um,
Speaker 1: and she has a high voice, and beautiful girls with
Speaker 1: that cute voice. Often in my experience I've seen get
Speaker 1: look over overlooked and people ignore the fact that they
Speaker 1: might have a brain completely. We all have to lower
Speaker 1: a voice like a man to safe read in that
Speaker 1: homes Elizabeth holes don't have to talk like this. The
Speaker 1: need to reduce blood samples. And now I need to
Speaker 1: hear Danielle used that tenors. We're gonna we're gonna have
Speaker 1: her use that voice when she comes on. Danielle, can
Speaker 1: you talk like a man. Please make us take more
Speaker 1: seriously by lowering your voice till you sound like Comedia.
Speaker 1: We just sound like Bill and teded so free South.
Speaker 1: But it's true. And and once you have one conversation
Speaker 1: with her, she's just so damned smart and she's so
Speaker 1: interesting and so kind and thoughtful and um, you know,
Speaker 1: would never let somebody pass her by without saying it
Speaker 1: thank you or um, you know, how are you? I
Speaker 1: love Danielle. Just good people. And it's intimidating when you
Speaker 1: see someone that beautiful, especially because we've been very transparent
Speaker 1: about how we were all kind of pity against each
Speaker 1: other and we were competing with like hair and wardrobe
Speaker 1: and screen time and who's sexy and who's not it
Speaker 1: And for someone that gorgeous to show up and not
Speaker 1: be a threat and immediately endear herself to literally every
Speaker 1: single member of the cast. I don't know one person
Speaker 1: that was like Daniel is a problem, Like she endeared
Speaker 1: herself to every single cast member crew member. Um, it's
Speaker 1: a charisma that is, I know, it's really magnetic. It's
Speaker 1: a confidence there too, to be able to show up
Speaker 1: in in a space like on a show that was
Speaker 1: already really popular. It was a well oiled machine by
Speaker 1: that point. We all had sort of figured out our
Speaker 1: roles in the social climate behind the scenes of the show.
Speaker 1: To come into an arena like that and just be
Speaker 1: who she is and just fit in and not worry
Speaker 1: about where do I fit and and who likes me
Speaker 1: and who doesn't like me, which is a very natural
Speaker 1: thing to do. That was just there's a maturity there
Speaker 1: that that. I think we all had a girl. That's
Speaker 1: why we all had a crush on her because of that. Dude,
Speaker 1: have you ever seen her beauty queen photos? Sorry? What?
Speaker 1: Oh oh? And how you guys? Okay? So like when when? Uh?
Speaker 1: What season was it? Season six? When her and Jensen
Speaker 1: were together, Um, I used to go stay with them
Speaker 1: and sleep on their couch, which is why they pawed
Speaker 1: me off on Jeff. They were like, get Hillary off
Speaker 1: our couch, but they're in their house. She had her
Speaker 1: old beauty queen like head shots with like the big, huge,
Speaker 1: sparkly glitter crown and like a scepter and like the
Speaker 1: and like puffy sleeves on the game. I mean, they
Speaker 1: are magical. We're gonna need to get those. Listen, you know,
Speaker 1: once you make it, they're coming coming down to one
Speaker 1: tree Hills, Like, who are all of you? Big? Whoof Yeah?
Speaker 1: Exactly where any of you are? Beauty queen? I don't
Speaker 1: think I'm a queen. Um No, I mean again, it
Speaker 1: just lends itself to how big this episode was a
Speaker 1: lot of new yeah, I mean the follow up boy,
Speaker 1: a lot of turning points with different relationships and all
Speaker 1: the fun with Dan and Deb and then the introduction
Speaker 1: of Daniel and we have and Kelsey Asbill is in
Speaker 1: the next episode as well, who is now starting on Yellowstone. Um,
Speaker 1: It's like things were really rolling for our show at
Speaker 1: this point. It was just, man, this is what we ever?
Speaker 1: Top three? Season? I don't know. I don't know either, Um, well,
Speaker 1: what else haven't we hit? I loved? Oh? Hey remember? Okay?
Speaker 1: So season three is also when we started to get
Speaker 1: real bitchy because, uh, when Hailey tells Lucas about, oh,
Speaker 1: Brooke is super into Tommy Lee and he says, oh,
Speaker 1: is that something she picked up in the o C
Speaker 1: Like what a dick thing to say? It was so good? Yeah? Good,
Speaker 1: it was fun? Why not? Yeah? I did like that
Speaker 1: he went for it. I like the Chad was just
Speaker 1: game to like, go for whatever. He was always like, sure,
Speaker 1: make me look like a complete idiot, love it, Let's
Speaker 1: go for it. Yeah. He got to be funny here.
Speaker 1: And I think he liked being shirtless too, because he
Speaker 1: he had been working. He'd spent his summer, you know,
Speaker 1: doing push ups and things like check check these out. Well,
Speaker 1: everybody was watching the show. Many he had to be.
Speaker 1: He had to be ready. Our boys looked good season three.
Speaker 1: They were all in great shape. I wish he had
Speaker 1: seen Vaughan and Cullen and you know, I like skills
Speaker 1: wasn't in this episode like they should have been at
Speaker 1: the Halloween problem. It was a big episode though. I
Speaker 1: don't know like how we could have fit everybody else in,
Speaker 1: but it would have been so fun. Who what would
Speaker 1: their costumes have been? Oh, that's such a good question joy,
Speaker 1: Um skills would have been I'm trying to think of,
Speaker 1: like what was happening in two thousand five? Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I just know how much Antoine loves Samuel L. Jackson.
Speaker 1: Antoine was so in fiction out by then. Oh for sure, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: he's for sure Samuel L. Jackson. And uh, I mean
Speaker 1: Lee is already dressed as John Travolta in Saturday Night Fever.
Speaker 1: But he could double. We could have two Travoltas. I
Speaker 1: would be bad Sandy too. He could have been he
Speaker 1: could have been Oh my god, we could have had
Speaker 1: a Travolta Trifa. How did we have Oh my god,
Speaker 1: Fergie could have been Greece Travolta. Junk could have been
Speaker 1: pulp fiction Travolta, and Lee was Saturday Night Fever Trivolta.
Speaker 1: That would have been really fine. And then they all
Speaker 1: could have done the dance with you tell me a Girl.
Speaker 1: We did that for like an hour one day. It
Speaker 1: was I'm not a good day. I'm not a strong
Speaker 1: dance you're doing because if you notice, I'm watching Lee
Speaker 1: the entire time, like that's not like it works, because
Speaker 1: it looks like Mouth is the one who really is
Speaker 1: doing this, which is for sure what he would be
Speaker 1: is the instigator for sure. I liked having scenes with Lee. Um.
Speaker 1: I think we get paired up later again for the
Speaker 1: Boy draft. Um and Peyton hits this kind of platonic
Speaker 1: stride for season two. I mean, there's not much action
Speaker 1: between her and Jake after that one, like initial wedding
Speaker 1: hook up, because then it's all just trauma, trauma, trauma, trauma.
Speaker 1: UM And I don't think she hooks up with anybody
Speaker 1: again now it's a while because she has to deal
Speaker 1: with all this stuff with Ellie, and that's a lot
Speaker 1: that we also have a really talked much about because
Speaker 1: she God, that's just so hard that he you know
Speaker 1: what when he says, you know, here's the one thing
Speaker 1: you get here as a heads up. At least it's
Speaker 1: not just going to be somebody disappearing, And UM, I
Speaker 1: don't know what what what were you hope? Was there?
Speaker 1: Were you? Was there anything you were hoping for with
Speaker 1: that storyline? When when Cheryl came in and did you
Speaker 1: know how long she was going to be on the show? Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: what shaking your head now? No? No, I joy In
Speaker 1: a million years, I didn't think they were going to
Speaker 1: kill her in a million years. No. I I loved
Speaker 1: this parental situation, and I think, like a teenager would
Speaker 1: real life. Hilary was like maybe her and Larry will
Speaker 1: get together, do you know what I mean? Like, maybe
Speaker 1: maybe I'll get a family. They had great they really did.
Speaker 1: Watching them together, I'm like, how are you too? Not
Speaker 1: just like hey man, let's just do this, you know, um,
Speaker 1: because they they're different energies. He had that real blue
Speaker 1: collar thing and she's like the girl who's lived hard
Speaker 1: and has figured it out. And I liked their energy together.
Speaker 1: And I liked that my storyline wasn't about kissing a
Speaker 1: boy and that it was about kind of this like
Speaker 1: real self discovery. Um, it felt like real work, do
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like I liked getting these
Speaker 1: scripts because it was like, oh, this is you know,
Speaker 1: this is the kind of introspection that's interesting. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: everybody's dealt with a romance like oh my heart with
Speaker 1: the boy and the girl and the and you know,
Speaker 1: you can always find something relatable about that, and it's
Speaker 1: interesting for someone always. But when you keep doing repeating
Speaker 1: the same thing over and over, you really need to
Speaker 1: have as an actor. You gotta have a challenge, and
Speaker 1: you really rose to the occasion here. I mean it
Speaker 1: was beautiful. I really love of the both of them,
Speaker 1: and I specifically loved Cheryl because we've talked about it.
Speaker 1: I was so hungry for like, like older female mentorship,
Speaker 1: and I think that's why we love Janice, this director
Speaker 1: so much. I needed someone to model what my life
Speaker 1: would look like. Because I don't come from anybody in
Speaker 1: the industry. I had no model for what I was
Speaker 1: supposed to be doing, Like how do I spend my hiatus?
Speaker 1: Do I audition for stuff? Do I not audition for stuff?
Speaker 1: How aggressive should I be? Should I hire a publicist?
Speaker 1: Should I show my boobs like Hilary, I'm the same way.
Speaker 1: That's I never thought about that, but that's so true. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And she came in so calm, she'd already done the
Speaker 1: whole whirlwind, you know, and was unimpressed. Like when we
Speaker 1: would have scenes together, she would just talk about her son,
Speaker 1: and I was up her a job. I was up
Speaker 1: for this job where they wanted me to be topless,
Speaker 1: and it was a really good movie and I really
Speaker 1: really wanted to do it, but I was really chafing
Speaker 1: at this like topless thing. And I don't have a
Speaker 1: problem with other people who want to do that at all,
Speaker 1: but I didn't know if it was my gig, you know.
Speaker 1: And she she was like, kid, I got a son,
Speaker 1: and one day you're going to have a son. And
Speaker 1: so if you're okay with that, okay, but if you're not,
Speaker 1: think about him. And you know, I was years away
Speaker 1: from having my son. But it made such an impact
Speaker 1: in my decision making process, not just for that one job,
Speaker 1: but for all the jobs, like is this something that
Speaker 1: I want that I want my kid, who I don't
Speaker 1: even know yet to see. Um. Also, she had a
Speaker 1: really sexy snake tattoo on her back. Wait I think
Speaker 1: I remember that. Yeah, yeah, because her son was obsessed
Speaker 1: with snakes. Um, and she's just that cool snake. So
Speaker 1: when I did a movie years later and I had
Speaker 1: to have tattoos, they're like, what do you want? And
Speaker 1: I was like, will you put a snake tattoo on
Speaker 1: my back as a tribute to her? Because she was
Speaker 1: just That's why I really did a snake tattoo. And
Speaker 1: we were doing good Sam and I had to put
Speaker 1: tattoos on myself. He said, put a snake but it does, snake.
Speaker 1: It's the cool girl thing to do. I never in
Speaker 1: a million years thought that they were gonna kill her, Like,
Speaker 1: why would you waste shurly like that? I don't know what,
Speaker 1: I don't know what. We'll We'll have to have her
Speaker 1: on the show and ask her, please what happened? We
Speaker 1: got to find out. I'm sure you felt the same
Speaker 1: way with your parents. I mean you would freaking Huey Lewis.
Speaker 1: Was there a morning period for you when he invests
Speaker 1: like cut and run? Well, no, I mean because I
Speaker 1: think it was. I knew that it was just a
Speaker 1: temporary popping and popping out. It wasn't And we knew
Speaker 1: when Bess was coming back for the cancer storyline. We
Speaker 1: knew what that was when it started. Yeah, so yeah,
Speaker 1: that wasn't a big surprise. I do love best though,
Speaker 1: and I have stayed in touch with her, and she
Speaker 1: and I have had some lunches and just connected because
Speaker 1: I just love her. She's a wonderful woman. Um Hughey.
Speaker 1: I did not stay in touch with because it was
Speaker 1: way too nervous to do that. Also, I guess it
Speaker 1: would have been weird, like you know, you want to
Speaker 1: be friends It's not like now where you can just
Speaker 1: like DM someone like you used to have to ask
Speaker 1: someone for their phone number, which is so shoe Louis
Speaker 1: rispond Ever, I don't blame you, girl. I couldn't have
Speaker 1: done it. God forget about it. Um, well, no, this
Speaker 1: was a big How do we follow this up? Though?
Speaker 1: Like they just keep getting bigger and bigger and bigg Well,
Speaker 1: they're going to give Daniel a bigger storyline. Mouth is
Speaker 1: going to find some interesting things to happen with our
Speaker 1: beautiful talented friend Kelsey has peel. Um, we've got to
Speaker 1: see the Chris Keller batman false. Uh what's it called?
Speaker 1: Oh that's what I was going to ask you. This
Speaker 1: whole idea that Nathan's like, you know, the Brooks, like
Speaker 1: she can't write a song without Nathan, and then Nathan's like,
Speaker 1: she can't write a song without Chris Keller as the
Speaker 1: songwriter in our group of friends. Is that real? Like?
Speaker 1: Can you not write a song if you don't have
Speaker 1: a muse? Not for me, I know there are some
Speaker 1: artists that feel like they need to be tortured in
Speaker 1: order to write, or they need to have a person
Speaker 1: around all the time to be inspired. That's not. But
Speaker 1: I've also been alone most of my life. That's the
Speaker 1: song alone most of my life, you know, have been
Speaker 1: alone forever. Oh man, I'm just gonna use people always
Speaker 1: leave God, damn it. Let's do it most likely to.
Speaker 1: Let's spen a wheel here. I can't certainly pull the
Speaker 1: lot out of this episode. I'm sure we could pull
Speaker 1: a most likely to so many everybody was in this one.
Speaker 1: Everybody be the best, be the best wingman or wing woman.
Speaker 1: I mean, we've all been out at bars together before. Yeah,
Speaker 1: to resting, I'm trying. You're a great I mean, you're
Speaker 1: a really good wing man. I have to say, like
Speaker 1: out of out of everybody, you're so interested in other people.
Speaker 1: You're so you're you're very quick to just keep the
Speaker 1: conversation going, which is, you know, part of why what
Speaker 1: made you being a VJ so successful, because you really
Speaker 1: are good at just keeping everything going. The bulls. We're
Speaker 1: just going to spin this with let you drop into
Speaker 1: real stuff just like that. I mean, there's no it's
Speaker 1: a talent that you have. Um and yeah, so I
Speaker 1: And that's what you need in a wingman, right, You
Speaker 1: need somebody who like knows how to keep everything flowing,
Speaker 1: but also knows to recognize, okay, like something's there's time pending.
Speaker 1: It's time for me to back out a little bit.
Speaker 1: You know, guys, I'm gonna get a drink who needs something? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what? Joy Um. I feel like that's the
Speaker 1: drink that you need to make next the wing man.
Speaker 1: Wing Man. Yeah, so where it's just like a dependable
Speaker 1: drink that is like delicious but also like, you know, subtle.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh heay, no, I'm totally not trying to
Speaker 1: hook you two up. Subtle A subtle that's good. It's
Speaker 1: a slow burn. Who's our character wing Man. I feel
Speaker 1: like Deb would be a great wing man for sure,
Speaker 1: for sure because she's not subtle at all. Deb's the
Speaker 1: one that walks up and it's like, hey, heyy, my
Speaker 1: friend wants to kiss you, which is yeah, which is
Speaker 1: a great strategy. I appreciate that you've got to have both. Um. Okay,
Speaker 1: next episode is season three, episode five, a multi food
Speaker 1: of casualties that sounds heavy. Oh um, I love you.
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