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Speaker 2: Happy Wednesday to all of you out there in the

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Speaker 2: great city of Houston and beyond.

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Speaker 1: We know we have.

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Speaker 2: Texans fans all over the country, all over the world,

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Speaker 2: So welcome in John Harris alongside the voice the Texans,

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Speaker 2: Mark vandermir Not something I've been able to say the

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Speaker 2: last couple of nights because my partner over here was well,

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Speaker 2: he was playing hooky. Yeah, but for good reasons. Do

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Speaker 2: you want to tell those reasons?

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Speaker 3: So Monday was my golf tournament for Junior Achievement, and

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Speaker 3: I want to thank everybody who came out, a lot

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Speaker 1: I was able to say a load to a lot

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Speaker 3: Did the auction, great stuff for junior achievement, great money

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Speaker 3: raised for junior achievement. And S and H Manufacturing, Westco,

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Speaker 3: Apache Industrial Group, One Automotive, so many people who played

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Speaker 1: So that was great.

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Speaker 3: And then yesterday Johnny I played in the Brothers in

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Speaker 3: Arms tournament with Andre ware Warner, Warren Moon, and Vince Young.

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Speaker 1: Those are the Brothers in Arms.

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Speaker 3: It's scholarships provided for kids, and we met some of

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Speaker 3: the kids, outstanding young kids, Future of America. Just great

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Speaker 3: stuff and that was up at Carlton Woods, and it

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Speaker 3: was just a who's who of Houston sports media. Not

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Speaker 3: so much media, I shouldn't say that, Houston sports legends,

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Speaker 1: Christian Kirtsey was there. He lives in the Woodlands.

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Speaker 3: It was awesome to see him, you know, as like

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Speaker 3: And now I feel like it's not like I know

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Speaker 3: some other things. So it's great to see Warren Moon.

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Speaker 3: And that's one of those guys, Johnny, because I was

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Speaker 2: When I was doing draft shows before twenty fourteen, we

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Speaker 2: Funny because when you get teammates together, everybody catches strays,

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Speaker 3: so listen tomorrow night's show, we're doing that. We got

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Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, yeah it was. They were both very well

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Speaker 1: It was great.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So Rory gets his Master's championship and I couldn't

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Speaker 1: Roller Coaster Ride City. I'm thirteen, Johnny.

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Speaker 2: Butler's happen to be back in Houston, playing near Tomball,

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Speaker 2: it didn't lo and behold Tom Brady is the one

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Speaker 2: who makes Uh. Speaking of Brady, a guy who knew

441
00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,400
Speaker 2: him very well was Nick Cassario. He met with the

442
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Speaker 2: media today. Your overall thoughts, take anything you take anything

443
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Speaker 2: away from that. There's one thing I took away from it,

444
00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,080
Speaker 2: but I'll let you go first.

445
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Speaker 1: I felt like he didn't reveal a lot.

446
00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,639
Speaker 3: And we'll talk to Jonathan Alexander about this as the

447
00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:37,320
Speaker 3: next segment.

448
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Speaker 1: But I always like hearing Nick speak.

449
00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:44,919
Speaker 3: I'm always like panning for gold, Like what's what He always.

450
00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,840
Speaker 2: Tells a little story like he did at the end

451
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Speaker 2: of today. He was talking about Edelman. Yeah, and he

452
00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,080
Speaker 2: was talking about drafting of Edelman, and I thought that

453
00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:53,680
Speaker 2: was really interesting.

454
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Speaker 1: I always loved those those old stories. Uh.

455
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Speaker 2: He also talked about Christian Kirk. He talked about working

456
00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,240
Speaker 2: Kirk out right before he got into the league, just

457
00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:02,080
Speaker 2: he and Kirk.

458
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Speaker 3: Well, these are the things we talked to Nick about

459
00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:08,400
Speaker 3: because they're gathering information from the very beginning, from when

460
00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:12,639
Speaker 3: you first can possibly meet with these guys, evaluate these guys,

461
00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,040
Speaker 3: and you have files on all of them, right, so

462
00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,920
Speaker 3: when they do become available, potentially you go into your

463
00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:21,720
Speaker 3: mental and physical rolodex.

464
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Speaker 1: Is that a dated thing. Yes, it absolutely is.

465
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Speaker 3: But you go into your database and you find out

466
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Speaker 3: what you felt about them, then what do you feel

467
00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:28,840
Speaker 3: about them now?

468
00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,280
Speaker 1: Have they grown? What do they have left? All of that.

469
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Speaker 3: I also thought when he was asked the question about

470
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Speaker 3: do you want in Wexler, He's like, well, you were

471
00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,840
Speaker 3: talking about your support staff, and you know, Wexler dropped

472
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,080
Speaker 3: names and made it sound very good, and then he

473
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Speaker 3: hit him with do you want to change the way

474
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Speaker 3: you evaluate offensive lineman?

475
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Speaker 1: And Nick answered it so well, you know, they they

476
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Speaker 1: believe what they believe.

477
00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,879
Speaker 3: And Nick admits they're not always going to get it

478
00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,879
Speaker 3: right because nobody does. Nobody does in the history of

479
00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,640
Speaker 3: professional football get every selection right.

480
00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,040
Speaker 1: But his track record is damn good. Johnny.

481
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,239
Speaker 3: We could come away with the first round choices, the

482
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:10,480
Speaker 3: third round, second round, third round choices. Nick Cassario has

483
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:15,000
Speaker 3: a tremendous batting average as a general manager in acquisitions

484
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Speaker 3: and draft, and I'm here to see it.

485
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Speaker 1: Man. Next week, let's rock. One week from tomorrow, We've

486
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,439
Speaker 1: got it going. Yep. Absolutely, Here's the one thing that

487
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Speaker 1: I thought about.

488
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Speaker 2: And I feel like, I feel like the draft is

489
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Speaker 2: kind of like I see like different filters and The

490
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Speaker 2: first filter is okay, which guys have the talent to play?

491
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Speaker 1: They go through one filter.

492
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Speaker 2: Then the next filter is, okay, do these guys have

493
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Speaker 2: talent at you know, positions or needs that we have,

494
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,119
Speaker 2: you know, are we're gonna be looking at quarterbacks?

495
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Speaker 1: No, throw those guys out.

496
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Speaker 2: So there's a filter that kind of takes out, you know,

497
00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 2: some circumstantial type you know guys. And then you get

498
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,239
Speaker 2: down to that third filter. And you know what that

499
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 2: third filter is, Now do you belong? Are you a Texan?

500
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 2: Do we see you with swarm attitude? Do we see

501
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 2: you with the right mindset to be here? And I

502
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:23,200
Speaker 2: think it's become that much more evident, and I think

503
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 2: Nick made it in paraphrasing, but it basically was like, look,

504
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,399
Speaker 2: talent is talent. That's kind of that's the first filter

505
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,680
Speaker 2: that gets you, that gets you through there. You're gonna

506
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 2: have talented guys. You're gonna everybody's gonna know who the

507
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,919
Speaker 2: talented guys are. You can you know, pop up in

508
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 2: a computer and watch a game and go, yeah, that

509
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 2: guy's pretty good.

510
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Speaker 1: You know you can you can do that.

511
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,879
Speaker 2: The second one circumstantial, you know, maybe a guy has

512
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 2: something off the field, you know, maybe there's something that

513
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 2: you know, uh, there's been some noise about various prospects

514
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 2: that maybe you don't feel comfortable with. Okay, those guys

515
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 2: get filtered out. But then here's the last filter. Here's

516
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Speaker 2: that last one. Do you think this guy is a Texan? Now,

517
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:01,919
Speaker 2: didn't say that per se, but I'm just you know,

518
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 2: listening to what he has to say. The makeup and

519
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:10,120
Speaker 2: the football character, the off field character absolutely matter. Now

520
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 2: juxtaposed that in a sense against what Nick said, I

521
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 2: don't know, it's a few weeks ago. He's like, look,

522
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 2: we're not gonna bring in a bunch of choir boys. Yeah,

523
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 2: that's true. But even in bringing even in bringing guys

524
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 2: that aren't gonna be quote unquote choir boys, you know

525
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 2: that they fit that last that last wrung. Are you

526
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 2: a Texan? Do you do you apply the standard as

527
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 2: Derek Stingley talked about with us, as he's talked about

528
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 2: the way Nico, you know it said it like sign

529
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 2: the contract, next day, he's in the weight room, He's

530
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,400
Speaker 2: ready to go. That's the standard. That's a swarmy attitude,

531
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,679
Speaker 2: that's a swarmy mindset. Nick was saying it look you

532
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 2: have to be at a different ideological level. I guess

533
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 2: to be a Texan. Putting it bluntly, you better come

534
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 2: in here with a swarm attitude or you're not going

535
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 2: to be here.

536
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 1: We're not even going to consider you on our board.

537
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 3: I want to ask him this next time, and we've

538
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 3: been able to ask him a lot of questions. I

539
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 3: don't think he'll answer it, but I want to know.

540
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 3: Is there a number that they put on this? How

541
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 3: do they quantify this? How do they put this in

542
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 3: analytical terms? Because we're still talking about people, and you're

543
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,400
Speaker 3: you're really speculating on how they're going to handle themselves

544
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 3: as professionals and handle their own development because there's certain

545
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 3: stuff and there's a lot of it that they can

546
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 3: only do by themselves. That's right, eat right, you know,

547
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 3: conduct themselves properly away from the building, continue to work

548
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 3: out everything else that they need to do to be

549
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,160
Speaker 3: great pros in this league.

550
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Speaker 1: And I'm wondering, did they have a point system?

551
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,159
Speaker 3: You get this many points for this, this many points

552
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 3: for that, get this many points for your swarm factor?

553
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 3: You get this for you know, you said they don't

554
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 3: have to be choir boys. Is that a measurable or

555
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 3: can they put that in measurable terms? And you have

556
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 3: to have at least on ninety six total among all

557
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 3: these things to be drafted as a Texan. And within that,

558
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 3: the character part is it has to meet a third

559
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 3: certain threshold unto itself. I don't know if they evaluate

560
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 3: it like that, but I got a feeling it's got

561
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 3: to be a part of it if nothing else.

562
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Speaker 2: I absolutely And so I sent you a tweet from

563
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 2: this weekend. And there's been a player that I wanted

564
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,439
Speaker 2: all along. There's been a player I've wanted along, and

565
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 2: I think when I came back to the Senior Bowl

566
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 2: and I had the opportunity to listen to people and

567
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 2: I had them, I listened to talk about Tyler Booker.

568
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 2: So this came from Mike Rhodak, who I believe works

569
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 2: for twenty four to seven for BAMAM. I think he

570
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,679
Speaker 2: used to be with the Patriots too. Yeah, he used

571
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 2: to cover the Patriot's re ESPN. Anyways, he's not covering

572
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 2: Crimson Tide football. And he tweeted this. So the spring

573
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 2: game in Alabama was called a day a day spring

574
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 2: scrimmage or whatever it is, but it's called a day,

575
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 2: so he said. Alabama didn't hold an a day news conference,

576
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 2: but a number of players spoke to Roodak, including Deontay Lawson,

577
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 2: who is one of their good linebackers.

578
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 1: Lawson said this last year.

579
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Speaker 2: He's talking about the whole like spring day scrimmage that

580
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 2: Sarready said. Last year, we had Tyler Booker who kind

581
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 2: of led the show and he talked and did everything

582
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,199
Speaker 2: with the team, and the team trusted whatever he said

583
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 2: full stop, all right.

584
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Speaker 1: So that when I heard that and I was like,

585
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,199
Speaker 1: move up? Would you move up? And will he?

586
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 3: So I did, been burned before moving up to get

587
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 3: an offensive lineman.

588
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 1: And a getting a guard and a guard from the SEC.

589
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: But what have we learned? What have we learned here?

590
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 1: That's what they have to ask themselves.

591
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 2: I'll tell you this, I think as players, ironically, Booker

592
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 2: and Green are probably a little bit similar.

593
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: Now.

594
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 2: I think Kenyon. I think Kenyon was banged up when

595
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 2: he got here. I think he had been dealing with

596
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 2: some stuff. It never got right right. But Kenyon's different.

597
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 2: Kenyan's quiet, he's soft spoken.

598
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 3: Nobody would say that about Kenyon, and it's nothing against him.

599
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 3: He's just not that kind of person. He's not this

600
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 3: kind of this. This is different. This is a different level.

601
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 2: But knowing what that team, and here's the thing, I

602
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 2: don't think that Kenyan Green. You know, you talk, there's

603
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 2: a lot to talk about the offensive line and not

604
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 2: being swarmy all that. I think if Kenyon had been

605
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 2: healthy and been able to be on a field, I

606
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 2: think some of those things would I think they would

607
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 2: have come through in due time.

608
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 1: I do think Kenyan has has some of that.

609
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's the level of Tyler Booker,

610
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 2: but I just have heard so many different things, have

611
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 2: heard Booker speak people I talked to it, Syrbol, that's

612
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 2: the guy. Now you trade up that. That's the hard

613
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 2: part of the great question. I did my three round

614
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 2: mock draft Mark. I can't see him getting into twenty five.

615
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 2: I just can't. Okay, I've gone through it. I've gone

616
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 2: through numerous times, and I'm like, he's got to get

617
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 2: through the.

618
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,199
Speaker 1: Bengals, the Seahawks.

619
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Speaker 3: You cited too many teams to have teams interior offensive

620
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 3: line needs. Let me ask you this, and I don't

621
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 3: know if it's a rhetorical question or not, but they

622
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 3: have to ask themselves. Is there if we don't get Booker,

623
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 3: is there another offensive line when we can get a

624
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 3: twenty five or even later that could emerge as uh

625
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 3: or the leader of that room. And the other part

626
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 3: of the question is, if they don't get that guy,

627
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 3: the leader is the guy in the building already?

628
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 1: Is the leader in the building already?

629
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,479
Speaker 3: That's what they have to ask themselves, because that's what

630
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 3: you're dealing with here.

631
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: As you imploded this thing, you.

632
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 3: Know, you demolished the offensive line, and you said we're

633
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 3: gonna start over. Basically, you know we have pieces, but

634
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 3: we're gonna three fifths of the starting lineup ab out

635
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 3: from opening day last year.

636
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: We're going to rebuild this thing. They have to ask

637
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: themselves those questions.

638
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 2: I know it's a little bit of a gray area,

639
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 2: but you want to know who I took at twenty five?

640
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 2: I stuck and stayed? Who I stayed at twenty five?

641
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 2: Or do you want to wait till seven forty five for

642
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 2: mock draft injection Thursday morning? I will be on oh

643
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 2: ya as they read who do now? I did a

644
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 2: three rounder? Do you want to know who I picked

645
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 2: in the first round? I stayed at twenty five? And

646
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 2: I feel very good about what I did. It's not Booker,

647
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 2: It's not Booker. I couldn't do it Booker. I think

648
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 2: going to Seattle at eighteen oh oh at.

649
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: The total mock.

650
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, look yeah, all right, so seven forty five tomorrow morning,

651
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 3: we'll wait forty five, we'll wait for that.

652
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: You'll wait for that cheese. Yeah. I've got out of

653
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: this when I was done with the mock.

654
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 2: And when I do the mock and I i'm picking

655
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 2: for the Texans, I try to make it as tough

656
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 2: as possible on me, like, oh, I like this guy,

657
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have him falling twenty five picks to us.

658
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Speaker 1: You know I didn't have Travis Hunter. You know that's

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Speaker 1: what no. I made it as tough as possible.

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Speaker 2: What would I do in this situation if this all unfolded?

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Speaker 2: That's pretty good. I like this tease forty five. I'll

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Speaker 2: be on to uh unveil that. But if you want

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Speaker 2: to football take over dot com, go check it out.

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Speaker 2: Do you like this tease?

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Speaker 3: In the next segment, I'll ask you in Jonathan, I'll

666
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Speaker 3: give you a hot take.

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Speaker 1: And you made it.

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Speaker 3: It's about the quarterbacks, and it's it. I think it

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Speaker 3: could be like HIPing, hot, piping, hot.

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Speaker 1: Sizzle fires. How many are we giving out?

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Speaker 2: We'll do that next with Jonathan Alexander the Chronicle right

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Speaker 2: here on Texans All Access.

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Speaker 1: Yes, sorry, Welcome back to Wednesday, Nation.

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Speaker 2: Of Texans All Access from the Unday Texans Radio Studio.

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Speaker 2: I am John harrisher Ho so glad to be with

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Speaker 2: you football analyst, asylo reporter for your Houston Texans and

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Speaker 2: as I teased in the last segment, tomorrow with Sean

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Speaker 2: and Seth on Painted pander Gas, I will.

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Speaker 1: Unveil my mock draft, my three round mock draft.

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Speaker 2: It is for the entire league, but obviously the Texans

681
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Speaker 2: are included. Four picks twenty five, fifty eight, seventy nine,

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Speaker 2: eighty nine, four picks. I didn't make any trades. I

683
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Speaker 2: just left them the way they are made two trades,

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Speaker 2: I think in the first round.

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Speaker 1: That was it. Other than that, it's four picks.

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Speaker 2: So you have to listen tomorrow from seven forty five

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Speaker 2: to eight, and then from eight to whenever. I'm gonna

688
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Speaker 2: be talking more draft stuff, so please don't miss that. Now,

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Speaker 2: we had another individual with us, a guy who's become

690
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Speaker 2: a really good friend. He did a mock draft as well.

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Speaker 2: I didn't really put him on a spot, but I

692
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Speaker 2: wanted to know his thinking because he actually had a

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Speaker 2: trade in his and he is Jonathan Alexander of the

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Speaker 2: Houston Chronicle.

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Speaker 3: Let's go in studio with us now, Jonathan Alexander from

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Speaker 3: the Houston Chronicle. All right, Jonathan, Nick Cassio has spoken

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Speaker 3: to the media today, and I want to know, did

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Speaker 3: you glean anything out of that as far as what

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Speaker 3: they want to do at pick number twenty five?

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Speaker 1: Did he reveal anything?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely not?

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Speaker 5: Okay, And you guys know that's not Nick Casario's style.

703
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Speaker 5: You can ask the most specific question as it pertains

704
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Speaker 5: to where they're going, and he's not gonna give it away.

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Speaker 5: He even, you know, mentioned that some of the noise

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Speaker 5: I had gotten now was just noise and didn't mean anything.

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Speaker 5: He said they didn't have anything specific, So you know,

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Speaker 5: he's sticking to his strategy that he normally sticks to

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Speaker 5: and that's a top secret.

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Speaker 4: They don't want teams to know where which where they're going.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk to general manager Jonathan Alexander, because you

712
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Speaker 2: put together your mock draft and when I looked at it,

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Speaker 2: I immediately saw a number that was not twenty five,

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Speaker 2: So I was eighteen, meaning the Texans traded up to

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Speaker 2: number eighteen, where I believe the Seattle Seahawks and your

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Speaker 2: mock they draft Kelvin Banks Junior from Texas.

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Speaker 5: Explain, Yeah, so that was nineteen and that's my third

718
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Speaker 5: of my four. They traded up with with the Buccaneers,

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Speaker 5: and that's my third of four. So I wanted to

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Speaker 5: explore the trade up because Nick ca Sarrio left open

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Speaker 5: the possibility, and I believe if they trade up, they'll

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Speaker 5: probably try to get Kelvin Banks because he has the

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Speaker 5: highest chance of the picks that make the most sense

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Speaker 5: of going early. I think he could go as high

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Speaker 5: as number eleven to San Francisco. I do believe, even

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Speaker 5: though you know Nick and Demico won't say it public

727
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Speaker 5: publicly now because too close to draft, I do believe

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Speaker 5: that they want to draft an offensive lineman early in

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Speaker 5: one of the top two rounds, and then I think

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Speaker 5: they could potentially even double up in the first two rounds.

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Speaker 5: So that was my reasoning for Kelvin Banks. I don't

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Speaker 5: necessarily think that they'll trade up in the first round.

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Speaker 5: That was just me exploring it. Sure, my fourth and

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Speaker 5: final my draft will most likely have them picking at

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Speaker 5: number twenty five, but still potentially still one of those

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Speaker 5: offensive linemen.

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Speaker 2: So let me ask you about that staying at twenty

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Speaker 2: five because I got asked this question a lot too.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I feel like twenty five is a

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Speaker 2: good spot because there are players at different positions that

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Speaker 2: they can look at and say, these guys will definitely

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Speaker 2: get to us at twenty five, that maybe we don't

743
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Speaker 2: have to trade up, that the difference in the player

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Speaker 2: that goes at nineteen versus when we get at twenty

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Speaker 2: five is not worth giving up a third rounder or

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Speaker 2: a second or third round or next year, whatever the

747
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Speaker 2: case might be. What in your hard hearts tells you

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Speaker 2: why number twenty five seemingly is where they'll stay on

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Speaker 2: draft night.

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Speaker 5: I think for those same exact reasons that you said

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Speaker 5: that they feel like there's a great group of players

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Speaker 5: that they can still acquire at twenty five, and also

753
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Speaker 5: they could potentially trade back and get more assets and

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Speaker 5: not trade super far back.

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Speaker 4: But you know, I've.

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Speaker 5: Always heard from previous gms that they feel like the

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Speaker 5: top sixteen players in any given draft, or the premier

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Speaker 5: players like the yeah yeah, and then after that there's

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Speaker 5: a drop off, and from seventeen to forty five you

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Speaker 5: got guys who are pretty similar in talent level. So

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Speaker 5: I think picking at twenty five and in this particular draft,

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Speaker 5: I think the tech it gives the Texans flexibility. Still,

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Speaker 5: they'll still leave the door open to trade back and

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Speaker 5: potentially for a team that is quarterback hungary that might

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Speaker 5: say the Jackson kid Jackson, yeah, yes, sim and Jalen

766
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Speaker 5: Milroe as well, you know, or say Chad or somehow falls.

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Speaker 5: I think the Texans could potentially leave that door open

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Speaker 5: to trade back. So I think standing there just gives

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Speaker 5: them a multiple options.

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Speaker 3: We have Banks, what happens so all of a sudden

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Speaker 3: it feels like they have tackles galore, potentially because Titus

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Speaker 3: we assume are a probably guard but he can't play tackle,

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Speaker 3: and maybe even either side who knows what they're thinking

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Speaker 3: behind closed doors. But you have Banks, Titus, you have

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Speaker 3: Blake Fish, or have Cam Robinson, Trent Brown. All of

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Speaker 3: a sudden you got a lot of different tackles. What

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Speaker 3: do you think happens there? Does Banks sit for a

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Speaker 3: while and learn under Robinson or if he wins the

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Speaker 3: job outright it's gonna be him, kind of like a

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Speaker 3: Kamari Lassiter. He didn't really know exactly how that was

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Speaker 3: gonna play out until you saw it in real time.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's certainly possible. I think with Banks,

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Speaker 5: though some people project Banks to be a guard. You

784
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Speaker 5: know he's gonna probably play tackle. But I think the

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Speaker 5: fact that people believe he can be a guard means

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Speaker 5: that he could be a flexible pick for the Texans.

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Speaker 5: Perhaps they play him at guard the first year, while

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Speaker 5: Cam Robinson maybe starts at right tack at left tackle,

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Speaker 5: and they have Fisher or Howard start at at right tackle,

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Speaker 5: and then after Robinson leaves, they move Kelvin Banks to

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Speaker 5: love tackle.

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Speaker 4: I think that's certainly possible.

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Speaker 5: I think in my final mind draft, I'll pick either

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Speaker 5: between Kelvin Banks and Tyler Booker, though those will be

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Speaker 5: my two choices. And then I think that second pick

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Speaker 5: gives them flexibility to pick the opposite position of what

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Speaker 5: they didn't pick. So say they picked Tyler Booker, then

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Speaker 5: they pick a tackle for that second pick. I really

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Speaker 5: wouldn't be surprised if the Texans traded up with that

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Speaker 5: particular pick. To me, I think you can entice a

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Speaker 5: team you have that extra third round pick in that

802
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Speaker 5: Laromy Tunzel trade. I don't think Nick Casario makes moves

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Speaker 5: without having something in mind. Now, things don't always come

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Speaker 5: to fruition, but I think he has an idea of

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Speaker 5: what he wants to do, and I like the idea

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Speaker 5: of them trading up higher to get one of the

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Speaker 5: better tackles or guards in the second round.

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Speaker 2: I know very well that when people ask me this question,

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Speaker 2: I know how I respond because it's more about the player,

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Speaker 2: not the position. However, I'm gonna ask it anyways. The

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Speaker 2: positions that we have a decent idea that Texans have

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Speaker 2: priorities O line wide receiver, et cetera. They're not gonna

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Speaker 2: draft the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: We know that the air probably other positions are probably

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Speaker 1: not even gonna look at.

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Speaker 2: So other positions that they could potentially take a pick.

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Speaker 2: Which position would surprise you the most on Night one

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Speaker 2: that they took at number twenty five?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I see a lot of people talking about receiver.

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Speaker 5: I would be surprised if they took a receiver. Not

821
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Speaker 5: the most surprised, but I would be surprised if they

822
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Speaker 5: took a receiver.

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Speaker 4: With that twenty fifth pick. Over offensive lineman.

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Speaker 5: If they took a defensive player with that first pick,

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Speaker 5: that probably would surprise me the most, because I think

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Speaker 5: their defense is really good on paper, and I think

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Speaker 5: they're pretty set. I really don't think they have to

828
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Speaker 5: chase after anybody high. So if they took a defensive

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Speaker 5: player with their twenty fifth pick, I'd be a little

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Speaker 5: bit surprised. But aside from that, receiver will be a

831
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Speaker 5: little bit of a surprise too. I just think that

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Speaker 5: they're gonna go offensive lineman with that first peak.

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Speaker 3: All right, both of you rate this hot take? How

834
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Speaker 3: many sizzle fires out of five?

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Speaker 1: Here we go.

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Speaker 3: Mill Row goes higher than Sanders. Milroe goes before Sanders.

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Speaker 3: How hot take is that?

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Speaker 2: Four?

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Speaker 1: That's four? It's four.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going all the way because I've got I've

841
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Speaker 3: got Jackson Dart at two and Sanders at three, and

842
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Speaker 3: so I I totally I could see it.

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Speaker 2: I could see it. So I'm not going all the

844
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Speaker 2: way to five. But it's it's it's probably our fast.

845
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go five because he's hot.

846
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Speaker 5: I think Sanders is a better player than than Milrow,

847
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Speaker 5: So I think a team would be crazy to take.

848
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Speaker 2: But you know as well as I do that it's

849
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Speaker 2: that mill Row, It's it's his leadership, and it's the

850
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 2: way that players play around him that has to be

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Speaker 2: added into the evaluation of how.

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Speaker 1: You look at Milroy.

853
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Speaker 2: True, it has to be because I mean Jonath's point,

854
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 2: he's not he's not a great thrower, like he's not.

855
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 2: He's a really good athlete right now, who's a really

856
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 2: good leader that has taken all his snaps at quarterback?

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Speaker 3: What did Nick say out there, by the way about talent?

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Speaker 3: He was like, I'm paraphrasing here. He said, talent is talent.

859
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Speaker 3: Literally he said three words, talent is talent.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It was like a Luis c k like talent, you know, talent.

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Speaker 3: I want the best person. He didn't say it like that.

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Speaker 3: He said he wanted all these attributes in addition to talent, right.

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Speaker 4: Yes, And he said talent is part of it though.

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Speaker 5: So you know, they want a player who obviously is

866
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Speaker 5: going to work hard, who's a leader, who they know

867
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Speaker 5: is going to do their best to improve their game

868
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Speaker 5: no matter what, and then they also have talent along

869
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Speaker 5: the way, and that ultimately will weigh out among the

870
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Speaker 5: players who have the talent, but aren't as hard of workers.

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Speaker 4: That's how I see what he said.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you a question. I'll ask you both

873
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Speaker 2: the question. We've been around teams for a little while, Mark,

874
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,919
Speaker 2: more than more than most. You've been around a team,

875
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Speaker 2: the best teams that you have been around. How much

876
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 2: drama has there been around that particular team? Drama, drama

877
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 2: for whatever reason? How much drama? What's one of the

878
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 2: worst years that we ever had in this bill? And

879
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 2: maybe it's hYP hypothetical question, but in twenty thirteen, there

880
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 2: was something.

881
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,280
Speaker 1: Every single week you're looked up, there was drama.

882
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 2: We went two and fourteen, and I feel like, if

883
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 2: I'm drafting a quarterback in this draft, I don't want drama.

884
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 1: I don't want podcasts. I don't want all that crap.

885
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 2: I want a quarterback that is dialed into everything that

886
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 2: I am coaching him, and we're coaching him to do

887
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 2: every single day.

888
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: Am I wrong about that? No?

889
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:45,439
Speaker 4: I don't.

890
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 5: I think the best teams are in harmony. The best

891
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 5: NFL teams don't have drama. They eliminate that, and they

892
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 5: keep the main thing the main thing, and they focus.

893
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 5: So I agree with you. I don't think you're wrong.

894
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 5: I think when you're looking for a play, especially a quarterback,

895
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 5: you want somebody who's going to do everything the right way,

896
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 5: which is why you know, obviously Shaduor isn't going in

897
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 5: the top three like you know earlier some months ago,

898
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 5: because you know, there are kind of questions you know

899
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 5: about about him, and you know, I still think he's

900
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 5: gonna be a good player at some point. But you know,

901
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 5: obviously the consensus is cam Ward because he has, you know,

902
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 5: the intangibles and everything you kind of look for in

903
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 5: a quarterback. So I think those things are important.

904
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't want the drama. People will point to

905
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,280
Speaker 3: instances of teams that have had drama and done well anyway.

906
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: There have been many throughout history. You know. The old

907
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: school one is remember the Oakland A's of the early

908
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: nineteen seventies.

909
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 3: All right, I got it, but you know when that

910
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 3: was the early nineteen seventies, that's right, So there's that. Yeah,

911
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 3: the Cowboys teams had drama. You know, you can just write.

912
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 2: The social media where everything is out there. Yeah, I

913
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 2: mean you had after the Marcus Lawrence left. Yeah, Marcus

914
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 2: Lawrence fighting with Michael Parsons and like.

915
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: Well, they were supposed to be boys. They were in

916
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: the same position.

917
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 2: Room, Like, was all this going on when they were

918
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 2: with the Cowboys? And maybe that's a part of what's

919
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 2: going on. I don't know, But that being said, Jonathan

920
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 2: cam Ward more than likely going to Tennessee. What do

921
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,879
Speaker 2: you think Cleveland does And is it as simple as

922
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 2: if Cleveland goes Hunter, the Giants go Carter, If the

923
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 2: Browns go Carter, the Giants go Hunter. Do you think

924
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 2: it's that simple that Hunter and Carter are two and

925
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 2: three in whatever order I do, And which order would

926
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 2: you go in?

927
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 5: I'd go Hunter just because of his versatility and what

928
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 5: he can do. I love Carter, but the injury scares

929
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 5: me a tab it. But just Hunter being a generational

930
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 5: type of player, I take a chance on that. So

931
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 5: I think it goes Hunter Carter. I think those will

932
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 5: be the top three picks ye in the draft.

933
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 3: All right, Jonathan, what else do you have going on

934
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Speaker 3: to the Chronicle? One more mock next week?

935
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 5: Yes, one more mock next week week that'll go post

936
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 5: on Wednesday. I'll have a feature on Nick Cassario, good

937
00:42:55,680 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 5: friend Nick Casario. And this weekend I'll have look at

938
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 5: the three most likely scenarios for the Texans and what

939
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 5: they'll probably do.

940
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 3: Good friend Nick Casario, all right, okay, stay tuned for

941
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 3: more details.

942
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,320
Speaker 2: Thank you, Jonathan, thanks for having me the man himself,

943
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 2: Jonathan Alexander. Appreciate him stopping by the studio with Mark

944
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 2: and myself.

945
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 1: All right's go around the NFL.

946
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 4: Do that.

947
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 2: Next, what's happening as we get closer to the draft.

948
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 2: And could the Saints be thinking of a quarterback but

949
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 2: maybe not the name everybody thinks. We'll discuss that next

950
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 2: the Texans All Access. What's happened everybody?

951
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: One?

952
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 2: Final segment this Wednesday edition of Texans All Access before

953
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 2: we turn it over to Area forty five right here

954
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 2: on Sports Radio six ten, eight days away from the

955
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 2: NFL Draft, and I will be doing plenty of work

956
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 2: that weekend. Do plenty of work up until now. Go

957
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 2: check out Football takerver dot com. I'll beyond tomorrow with

958
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 2: Sean Seth to unveil my mock draft. You want to

959
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 2: get to it sooner, go subscribe Football Taker for dot com.

960
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: Appreciate it. It's gonna be good stuff, So go check

961
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 1: it out.

962
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 2: Three rounds so you get to see the four players

963
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 2: that I hone in on for the Houston Texans. All right,

964
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 2: some news around the NFL. Let's start with the Dolphins.

965
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 2: They are an enigma to me. I don't know what

966
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 2: to think about them. They seemingly went all in. Now

967
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 2: they're I guess it didn't work, so now they're backing off.

968
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 2: But they're keeping Tyreek. Maybe they're trying to trade Tyrek.

969
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 2: I don't know, but they definitely will try to trade

970
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 2: Jalen Ramsey. Ian Rappaport Tom Pelasar reported that the Dolphins

971
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 2: and Ramsey are mutually set to explore trade options, and

972
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 2: it wouldn't be a surprise if he played elsewhere this

973
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 2: coming season. I have one word for that. Good Get

974
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 2: him out of my man, Anthony Weavers life. Just get on,

975
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 2: go move on. He grussed about Vic Fangio. Then Vic

976
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 2: goes to the Eagles, wins a championship as defense coordinator.

977
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: The squawk and always this squawk, squawk, just talk. All

978
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: he does is talk. I talk.

979
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 2: I get paid for that. He he's supposed to be

980
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 2: covering dudes, He's supposed to tackle guys.

981
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 1: He doesn't do it. Now his contract is kind of

982
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 1: a monster.

983
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 2: He agreed to a three year seventy two point three

984
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 2: million dollar extension, but he only I think played one

985
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 2: year under that, so he's due twenty five million, fully

986
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 2: guaranteed twenty twenty five. So that is gonna be a

987
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 2: tough nut for a lot of teams to have to swallow.

988
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 2: Rappaport said that Dove has already paid him four point

989
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 2: four million, so a team would have to pick up

990
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 2: only twenty one point one million. Thankfully, Texans have their

991
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 2: secondary just fine where it is.

992
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: Tyron Smith, uh, one of the best left tackles. I

993
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: ever saw.

994
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 2: Tony Bisselli's up there that I ever saw in person,

995
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 2: Tony Bisselli's up there, my man.

996
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 1: Dwayne Brown is definitely up there.

997
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 2: But Tyron Smith, whenever we played the Cowboys, I would

998
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,240
Speaker 2: see him in a full football uniform.

999
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: I just had that that reaction of damn, oh my god,

1000
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: I can't believe.

1001
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:10,720
Speaker 2: Like he's built that way, arms for days, height, size, attitude,

1002
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 2: yet everything. He will sign a contract with the Dallas Cowboys,

1003
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 2: a one day contract to retire a Cowboy. He's a

1004
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 2: five time All Pro, two time first team, eight time

1005
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 2: Pro Bowler. Tyron Smith should absolutely go to the Hall

1006
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 2: of Fame. My guess is first ballot, but you know,

1007
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 2: first ballot stuff, that's you never know. Nowadays, it's it's different.

1008
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 2: We talked to John McClain about this on and off

1009
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 2: the air and he's like, it's just different with the

1010
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. But Tyron Smith is going to retire

1011
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 2: a Dallas cowboy, which congratulates man, when I hell of

1012
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:56,399
Speaker 2: a career it was, there's no question about that. Seventeen

1013
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,439
Speaker 2: players are headed to Green Bay.

1014
00:46:59,120 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: Eighteen.

1015
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 2: One was added just yesterday. Maxwell Harriston from Kentucky one

1016
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,399
Speaker 2: hell of a player. Nickel Slash Corner Saton senior boy.

1017
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 2: Really like him again, if the Texas didn't have corner

1018
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 2: on lockdown and defensive back on lockdown, I would say, man,

1019
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 2: that's a guy you can look at a twenty five

1020
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 2: if you're really good about. But he will be added

1021
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 2: to the seventeen others including Tyler Booker, Matthew Golden, cam Ward.

1022
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a fun night in Green Bay.

1023
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 2: But we're gonna have fun here in Houston with the

1024
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 2: draft party at the Avenidas to Houston, We're gonna have

1025
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 2: a great time. So get out to the draft party

1026
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 2: on Thursday night. See the Texans draft at twenty five

1027
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 2: if they stay at twenty five again with Nick Cassear,

1028
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 2: you always worry about the draft holding my beer moment,

1029
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 2: and that might be it. So we'll see, but I'm

1030
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 2: okay with it. I'm okay with whatever happens. Gonna know

1031
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 2: the Texas will come out of here with some really

1032
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,439
Speaker 2: good football players. And big thanks to johahthan Alexander, to Mark,

1033
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 2: to all of you see tomorrow and as always, go

1034
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:55,280
Speaker 2: Texans