WEBVTT - "I HAD SEX WITH A DEMON" 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:03.600 In the moment, I actually didn't really uh think anything 0:00:03.640 --> 0:00:07.840 of it. I remember there were two torsos and they 0:00:07.880 --> 0:00:11.240 both had really big dicks, Like I was kind of 0:00:11.280 --> 0:00:13.760 into it. I didn't really think like, oh, I'm having 0:00:13.800 --> 0:00:15.640 sex with the demon. I'm just kind of like, damn, 0:00:15.680 --> 0:00:17.680 like this is really hot. Like these people like are 0:00:17.720 --> 0:00:21.720 not physically my type typically, but like, I'm really into 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:23.200 this sounding. 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:25.520 They're physically physically anything. Okay, So when you would you 0:00:25.560 --> 0:00:27.120 say that their dick close is Bobby? 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:28.400 Yes? 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:28.880 It sense. 0:00:30.040 --> 0:00:34.479 How were you doing, Bobby. 0:00:32.720 --> 0:00:33.559 I'm doing pretty well. 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:35.360 How I am doing good? 0:00:35.360 --> 0:00:35.640 Bobby. 0:00:35.640 --> 0:00:39.000 Bobby says here that you had sex with an incubus 0:00:39.479 --> 0:00:42.839 in a dream that you have. Says that you have 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:46.440 always wanted to have sex with an incubus, and you 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:49.159 feel like you no longer want to have sex with 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:53.800 the incubus ever since you had that dream. And my 0:00:54.040 --> 0:01:00.000 first question about this, what is an incubus? 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:04.160 You don't know what an incubus is. 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:06.120 I have no idea what an incubus is. 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:10.480 So it's a type of demon. There are two main 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:13.640 types of sex demons. There's an incubus in a succubus. 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:15.520 An incubus is a demon. 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:17.280 That has a dick. 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:23.280 They typically prey on women and will uh, you know, 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:26.400 like fuck them. And then a succubis has a vagina 0:01:26.480 --> 0:01:29.840 and they will typically prey on men and you know, 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:32.760 fuck them. 0:01:32.800 --> 0:01:36.480 Okay, and all right, So in incubus, it's a sex 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:40.400 demon with a penis that typically goes after women. And 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:47.840 what is it about the incubus that attracts you and 0:01:47.920 --> 0:01:49.440 makes you want to have sex with it? 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:56.560 Well, I feel like I'm a very submissive person and 0:01:56.720 --> 0:02:03.760 just something about this other worldly being just completely dominating me, 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:06.400 and there's nothing I can do about it. It's just 0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:14.880 incredibly appealing. Not anymore, I wouldn't recommend having sex with ndpepis. 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:18.239 Okay, okay, So so all right, so you consider yourself 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:24.440 very submissive and the fantasy of a highly highly dominant 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:28.600 sexual experience is very appealing to you. And then you 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:31.320 went and you had this dream and tell about the 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:34.160 events of the dream. 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:39.919 So in the dream, in the moment, I actually didn't 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:44.080 really think anything of it. I remember there were two 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:49.720 there were like two torsos. I can only say that 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:52.120 they're torsos, But in the moment, I just considered them 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:54.680 as two different people. But one of them had a 0:02:54.720 --> 0:03:00.080 more masculine frame, like you know, very muscular, and the 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:03.360 one had a more feminine frame, like you know, nice 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:09.519 curves and tits. They were both very dark skinned and 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:13.120 totally hairless. They had no hair on them. I also 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:16.480 remember there's there was something off about their smile, like 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:20.120 it was very it was freaky, and they both had 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:25.760 really big dicks, and the dicks kind of looked weird. 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:29.040 They didn't look like human dicks. But like I was 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:31.440 kind of into it. I didn't really think like, oh, 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:33.720 I'm having sex with the demon. I'm just kind of like, damn, 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:36.000 like this is really hot. Like these people like aren't 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:41.320 physically my type typically, but like I'm really into this sounding. 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:43.640 They're physically physically anything. Okay, So when you would you 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:47.880 say that their dicks are not human, is there an 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:50.200 animal that you could compare their dicks to or were 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:52.280 their dicks just a completely new type of dick. 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:56.400 It was like a completely new type of dick. It 0:03:56.480 --> 0:04:00.120 was it was almost human, but there was something I 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:02.760 feel like there was something about the head and also 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:06.400 the curvature of it. It was it was very curved 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:10.560 and like it was like almost like lumpy, if that 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:20.440 makes sense I don't know, but yeah, well I can't 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:22.520 say for certain there was two of them. There was 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:26.120 definitely two dix though, and two torsos, but in high 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:30.440 and like, thinking about the dream further, I actually can't 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:34.400 say for certain that these two torsos weren't connected. I 0:04:34.720 --> 0:04:39.120 feel like they may have been. Yeah, yeah, And I 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:44.200 don't really remember what exactly what sexual acts explicitly went down, 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:48.080 but I know that I I was fucked and I 0:04:48.160 --> 0:04:51.120 had a really great time after that dream. That was 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:54.280 the first dream I had. After the dream, I woke 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:57.160 up and was just kind of like, huh, it was hot, 0:04:57.240 --> 0:05:01.680 and then I went back to sleep. M do you 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:03.560 have any more questions about the about the sex? 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:04.159 I do? 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:06.200 I do have a question. So all right, So, so 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:11.400 you have a dream, you meet the incubus. They've got 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:15.040 the butt, they've got you know, more torsos and dicks 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:18.560 and and just an anatomy of of that you really 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:22.200 couldn't find in the conscious world, and you have sex 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:26.279 with it and you have a great time. But you're 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:33.520 telling me that after this dream you no longer had 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:38.120 any desire to to ever again have sex with an incubus. 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:43.680 And I'm wondering why the switch of the brain. Is 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:47.679 it because you're like, Okay, been there, done that, check, 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:52.400 Time to move on, or you know, I was expecting 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:53.960 you to said that you had a bad time. Go 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:55.440 go ahead, I mean, tell me, tell me why, tell 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:57.680 me why the the the switch of opinion. 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:04.960 So, one of the things that I know about incubuses 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:10.080 and succubises, just based off of my brief readings from 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:15.440 the internet, is that reoccurring sex with uh, with these 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:20.119 demons can lead to very poor mental and physical health. 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:24.800 The day that ensued was one of the worst mental 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:27.960 health days I had had in a really long time. Like, uh, 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:31.119 there's some really dark shit. I'm not going to get into. 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:34.159 I'm going to talk about that with my therapist tomorrow, 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:38.640 but yeah, it was just it was a terrible day, 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:41.440 and like I kept thinking back to that dream and 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:46.360 I just remember, like that's when I started realizing one 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:50.240 of the freakier aspects of it, like they're inhuman penises 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:57.159 and the fact that the torses were probably connected and yeah, 0:06:57.200 --> 0:06:59.799 so I'm kind of like, I can totally see how 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:04.599 having sex with these demons over a long period of 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:10.960 time can drive somebody to become so not only mentally ill, 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:15.520 but physically ill, because it was almost like almost like 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:20.600 the after effects, you know, Like, yeah, like it was 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:22.040 kind of like coming off of a drug. 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:25.240 I mean, that makes a lot of sense to me, right, 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:28.400 these demons, I don't know. Look, I don't know a 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:30.160 whole lot about demons. I'm not going to pretend like 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:34.400 I do. But anecdotally, it would make sense to me 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:43.200 that the demon their greatest goal is to instill havoc 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:48.960 and pain upon the mortals, and so they trick you 0:07:49.920 --> 0:08:00.720 with their hot bodies and dastardly sexual skill into uh, 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:05.600 invading your body, invading your mind. And then once once 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:09.040 you've given them the clear because they've hypnotized you with 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:13.480 their their their sex appeal, they they go and they 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:14.360 wreak their havoc. 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:21.520 Yeah, totally, Because that's another thing about about this instance 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:25.800 is that the sex was totally consensual. I I was, 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:31.320 I was down with it. But yeah, there's there's actually 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:33.960 another element to the story that I wanted to talk about. 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:38.079 So later in the day, like towards the end of 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:41.640 the day, you know, I'd been pretty horny. I haven't 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:45.120 been laid in a little while, and so it was 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:50.440 the night after I had the Incubis interaction, I I 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:53.880 decided to, you know, get out my buildo and you know, 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:57.400 like use it. But I could not get it in. 0:08:57.840 --> 0:09:02.880 And after I kept trying and failing, I realize I 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:10.280 was bleeding, like out my bussy. So it kind of 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:12.520 reminded me of when I would have sex with somebody 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:16.040 and then try to masturbate in the next day. It 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:17.280 was very similar to that. 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:24.680 Bobby. I'm glad to hear that you learned your lesson. 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:30.040 It sounds as though you fulfilled a fantasy, sort of 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:36.959 learned your lesson from it, and don't intend to dive 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:39.839 back into that fantasy. Do you feel like we learned 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:42.600 something from this? I feel like there is there's a 0:09:42.640 --> 0:09:44.720 few different angles here. I feel like the angle of, 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:47.120 you know, be careful what you wish for. Fantasy is 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:49.840 not as great as reality, although I guess they're I guess. 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:53.120 I guess the fantasy is a fantasy because it's a dream. 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:56.080 But I don't know do we learn anything. I feel 0:09:56.120 --> 0:09:56.800 like we learned something. 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:00.320 I feel like the mind can be a powerful thing. 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:05.400 I agree. Thank you very much for calling Bobby. 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:06.840 Of course, thank you forrabbing me. 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:10.840 You know what, I know that Bobby just told us 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:14.319 that we shouldn't have sex with demons, But now that 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:17.360 they put it in my head, I'm kind of like, 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:25.040 I wouldn't go out of my way. But if the 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:27.920 opportunity presented itself for me to have sex with the demon, 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:31.840 and all that was at stake was that I felt 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:35.880 really shitty for like a day or two afterwards, I'd 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:36.520 do it. 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:36.760 Just for. 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:43.400 I feel like I'm constantly on the hunt for new 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:46.480 and interesting life experiences, and I would add I would 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:54.040 file sex with the demon under that category. So you know, 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:57.120 people can warn me against things, but at the end 0:10:57.120 --> 0:10:58.560 of the day, I have to touch the wall to 0:10:58.559 --> 0:10:59.600 see if the paint is dry. 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:05.920 Hello, Hello, what's that get? 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:09.640 What's up? Not a whole heck of a lot? What's 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:10.320 going on with you? 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:14.960 My current. 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:22.120 Conflict is kind of intense, So I hope you're prepared. 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:27.400 I can assure you I'm not, But I will, I will, 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:30.920 I will, I will go through anyway. 0:11:33.000 --> 0:11:42.719 ALRIGHTY, well, I appreciate it. Currently, I am pregnant, and 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:46.520 I just have a lot of not a lot, but 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:49.800 a couple of people in my life who I'm close with. 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:56.400 Four men just kind of like shoving their opinions down 0:11:56.440 --> 0:12:02.679 my throat. M. So it's a lot to handle, and 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:06.880 I I don't know how to go about telling these 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:11.319 people that I love that they just need to chill 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:12.000 out a little. 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:23.480 Mhmm. Okay, So you're pregnant and you have people in 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:29.120 your life, yes, who are telling you their opinion on 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:33.240 what you should or shouldn't do in terms of whether 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:34.320 or not to keep it. 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:36.280 Right. 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:43.240 And I mean it's it's easy for them to say that, 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:50.040 you know, when they're not going through the current, you know, 0:12:50.320 --> 0:12:52.720 situation that I'm experiencing. 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:57.320 Sure, So I mean, look for forget forgetting about these 0:12:57.360 --> 0:12:59.920 these other people for a second and sort of focusing 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:05.280 more on you, right tell me? And I'm you know, 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:08.280 throughout this call, I'm not going to add even slightly 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:10.600 to the opinions of any of these people. But I'm 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:13.960 happy to sort of talk with you about how you 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:14.960 feel about everything. 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:17.240 Thank you. 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:22.439 I appreciate that, because sometimes those people don't realize that 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:26.040 that's not necessarily feedback in a sense. 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:31.080 What are your feelings about this current situation? 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:39.320 Well, being twenty two years old and not financially stable, 0:13:41.559 --> 0:13:48.600 and the father also being fairly young, it's definitely not 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:53.079 going to be beneficial for all parties to keep it. 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:56.440 I'm gonna have to terminate. 0:13:56.040 --> 0:14:06.959 It, which sucks and it's painful. 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:09.400 At the same time, I have to think of my 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:13.520 mental health and my mental wellness. 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:21.560 Mm hmm. Absolutely. Okay, So when you say at the 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:23.520 same time, I have to think of my health and 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:32.240 my mental wellness, are you Are you having trouble coming 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:39.000 to terms with the idea of putting yourself first in 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:39.680 this situation? 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:49.320 Yeah, I guess so. I I'm not often a person 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:56.360 who really is, you know, choosing the most autonomous, autonomous 0:14:56.720 --> 0:14:58.120 path for myself. 0:14:58.680 --> 0:14:59.800 Sure, So. 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:07.680 I don't know, it's difficult at the same time, like 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:12.600 I can't have other people living through me and deciding 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:17.240 things for me and just not be fulfilled with life 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:18.520 due to that. 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:27.240 Okay, so you're you're you've kind of made your decision. 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:31.840 When when you're when you're circulating your thoughts around this 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:36.640 in a way that's isolated from the opinions that are 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:40.600 that are coming at you externally, you sound as though 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:45.200 you've made your your decision, maybe not necessarily your piece, 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:46.760 but at least your decision about how you want to 0:15:46.800 --> 0:15:47.320 move forward. 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:49.720 Yeah. 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:54.440 Absolutely, and to what degree that's okay, So now that 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:58.960 you've made your decision, to what degree are the people 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:04.080 around you making you second guess or reconsider your decision 0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:08.360 or is it merely it just the fact that they're 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:12.760 giving you an opinion in and of itself is bothersome 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:13.480 and annoying to you. 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:22.320 I think, just like the opinion itself is they do. 0:16:22.960 --> 0:16:28.000 Like my father, for example, he does want me to 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:35.280 terminate it, but he is just so forceful about it 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:41.200 and making appointments for me. I'm an adult, I'm capable 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:46.640 of doing that myself. Also, just like the criticism and 0:16:46.760 --> 0:16:50.320 backlash that comes with that, it's hurtful and it's been 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:52.800 pretty consistent for all of my life. 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:54.760 Okay, that was the thing. That was the other thing 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:56.800 I was going to say is like, you know, this 0:16:56.880 --> 0:17:01.840 whole pregnancy aside, like, how's that relationship been with your 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:02.600 your father? 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:12.320 I mean, honestly, it's like pretty much daddy issues type 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:19.720 of thing. It's really difficult, Like him having full custody 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:24.200 of me at a as a child, I think there 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:28.040 should have been some preparation for having to be a 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:35.040 bit more emotional. So I don't know, it's just been 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:39.240 difficult for a long time, and I've communicated with him 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:45.080 that I do need emotional support right now, and he says, 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:47.760 you know, I'm not capable of giving that to you. 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:53.760 Although if I'm expected to make changes in my life, 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:59.880 I'm currently in treatment at a program, and if I'm 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:03.040 expected to make certain changes for him, I feel like 0:18:03.160 --> 0:18:07.560 I should be able to have some expectations as well. 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:11.200 Sure. Sure, let me ask you that have you have 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:15.360 you spoken to a real therapist about these these things? 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:19.439 Yeah? Here, there is a therapist at the program that 0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:20.800 are MATP currently. 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:23.600 And what do they say when they when when you 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:26.439 tell these things to them? 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:34.000 Well, she offers suggestions, She offers a lot of validation. 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:48.520 What suggestions she's offered me, suggestions of like maybe bringing 0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:54.200 to his attention doing some bonding like once a week 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:57.639 or something like going out to dinner or seeing a movie, 0:18:58.640 --> 0:19:03.840 because we don't talk, we don't bond, and I think 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:08.480 that would be beneficial, although he's always usually busy with 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:09.480 my stepmom. 0:19:10.280 --> 0:19:14.920 Yeah, so yeah, yeah, man, I mean, look, I get 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:17.280 where you're coming from when you're like, you know, hey, 0:19:17.359 --> 0:19:21.760 you haven't been really all that present in all these 0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:24.919 other situations, So how come all of a sudden, now 0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:28.919 this is going on, You're trying to take charge, you know. 0:19:30.560 --> 0:19:37.879 Yeah, yeah, I don't know. He's not obligated to really 0:19:37.920 --> 0:19:43.639 do anything for me. I'm an adult now, right, But 0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:49.440 making the excuse of you're an adult now, I kind 0:19:49.440 --> 0:19:54.480 of do bring to his attention that since I was 0:19:54.520 --> 0:19:57.439 a child, it's been like this and maybe there's just 0:19:57.560 --> 0:20:01.520 some things that I still deal with and some thoughts 0:20:01.560 --> 0:20:06.320 they still deal with regarding, you know, my past with him. 0:20:07.400 --> 0:20:11.320 So I think that could be healing if we could 0:20:11.440 --> 0:20:13.439 compromise in some sort of sense. 0:20:15.760 --> 0:20:18.840 Well, and and listen, I'll say this, it sounds like 0:20:18.920 --> 0:20:22.760 you have a very you know, God damn dude. I mean, 0:20:22.760 --> 0:20:26.000 you're in a very tough situation. And you know, of course, 0:20:26.040 --> 0:20:30.800 I don't know how you actually you know. I I 0:20:31.240 --> 0:20:33.439 the way that you're presenting yourself on this call, I 0:20:33.440 --> 0:20:38.400 don't know how authentic it is in presenting the way 0:20:38.440 --> 0:20:40.680 you actually feel about the situation. But I will say 0:20:40.720 --> 0:20:42.800 the way you've presented yourself from this call, you seem 0:20:42.920 --> 0:20:46.920 very like, seem very sort of you know, and I 0:20:47.000 --> 0:20:48.320 know you say you're dealing with a lot, but you 0:20:48.320 --> 0:20:53.440 do seem very like calm and collected in your sort 0:20:53.480 --> 0:20:57.679 of dealing with this situation. So you're you're obviously a 0:20:57.800 --> 0:21:01.639 very mature and collected person. I understand why your dad 0:21:01.720 --> 0:21:05.000 meddling in your affairs is bothers you to that point. 0:21:05.080 --> 0:21:10.240 But you know, I think it's great that you've been 0:21:10.280 --> 0:21:16.280 able to handle this with so much clarity. And yeah, 0:21:16.560 --> 0:21:21.680 good luck to you man. That's that's that's yeah, for sure, 0:21:21.760 --> 0:21:22.080 for sure. 0:21:22.080 --> 0:21:25.840 I have a good night, Annon, he as well, thank 0:21:25.920 --> 0:21:27.080 you bye. 0:21:27.840 --> 0:21:33.679 Whatever armchair gecko therapy here. But she had this like 0:21:33.800 --> 0:21:36.200 when when when she's talking about her relationship with her father, 0:21:36.280 --> 0:21:39.400 she like kind of had this idea of what she wanted, 0:21:41.680 --> 0:21:44.720 a pretty confident idea of what she wanted down to 0:21:45.880 --> 0:21:51.600 down to these objective steps with her therapist of like 0:21:52.800 --> 0:21:55.480 I would like to bond with you once a week 0:21:55.920 --> 0:22:01.320 on Tuesdays at six pm. Like very definitive sort of 0:22:01.320 --> 0:22:06.520 way of going about it. That's smart. Hi is this. 0:22:09.000 --> 0:22:12.440 Jake, Yes, this is Jake Jick. 0:22:14.000 --> 0:22:15.520 Is there anything in particular you wanted to talk about 0:22:15.520 --> 0:22:15.920 this evening? 0:22:18.520 --> 0:22:21.199 That's right, I want to talk about me sleeping with 0:22:21.240 --> 0:22:22.399 my friend's sister. 0:22:25.240 --> 0:22:30.320 And what is your relationship like with your friends? 0:22:30.440 --> 0:22:33.560 He's actually my best friend. He's actually one of my 0:22:33.560 --> 0:22:37.280 closest friends of all times. And it's just a really 0:22:37.280 --> 0:22:38.679 awkward situation because of that. 0:22:41.280 --> 0:22:44.840 How does your friend? Does your friend know that you 0:22:44.880 --> 0:22:45.760 slept with his sister? 0:22:47.840 --> 0:22:48.280 He does? 0:22:51.520 --> 0:22:54.120 And how did he find out? Did you tell him? 0:22:54.160 --> 0:22:57.400 Did she tell him? Did he find out some other way? 0:23:00.400 --> 0:23:05.080 It's it's it's actually a little bit worse than that. 0:23:05.880 --> 0:23:09.560 My friend. So so he had thrown a little bit, 0:23:10.280 --> 0:23:12.880 he had thrown a little bit of a party and 0:23:13.040 --> 0:23:17.920 I tended and and what made it weird is that 0:23:18.320 --> 0:23:21.080 the night after we were going to a tailgate and 0:23:21.200 --> 0:23:26.640 he walked into his sister's crew and I was in 0:23:26.680 --> 0:23:31.320 there getting dressed and made the connection right in and 0:23:31.359 --> 0:23:31.840 there of. 0:23:31.800 --> 0:23:36.960 What so he he walked on you? 0:23:37.080 --> 0:23:42.399 Essentially, he basically did walk in on me. Made it 0:23:42.520 --> 0:23:43.159 really weird. 0:23:43.920 --> 0:23:48.639 M And what was his reaction? I assume that you 0:23:48.880 --> 0:23:51.560 talked to him about this after the fact. 0:23:53.359 --> 0:23:57.440 Oh no, no, it was it was even worse than that. 0:23:59.320 --> 0:24:00.120 I had. 0:24:01.440 --> 0:24:05.159 We had gone to the tailgate, right which I and 0:24:05.200 --> 0:24:07.840 we had gone to the tailgate and we didn't say 0:24:07.840 --> 0:24:09.600 a worried about it because he had drove me there 0:24:10.119 --> 0:24:12.920 or I drove him there, and at the tailgate. 0:24:13.760 --> 0:24:15.120 What ends up happening is. 0:24:15.080 --> 0:24:20.560 That, uh, you know, at some point, you know, weoking 0:24:20.560 --> 0:24:23.040 and stuff like guy, and I ended up mentioning it 0:24:23.080 --> 0:24:26.679 to another friend, which I do regret and stuff like that, 0:24:26.720 --> 0:24:28.560 but I didn't end up telling you how to friend. 0:24:29.520 --> 0:24:32.400 And it's a large friend group of like like twenty 0:24:32.600 --> 0:24:36.879 to a little over twenty people. So what's happening is 0:24:36.880 --> 0:24:41.680 that everyone in the friend out really terrible for him, 0:24:41.760 --> 0:24:47.639 because you know, everyone's just like that, and it's just 0:24:47.680 --> 0:24:49.679 a really ochestation now. 0:24:51.720 --> 0:24:55.320 And so this relationship that you have with your friend's 0:24:55.359 --> 0:24:59.520 sister is it Is it a purely sexual relationship or 0:24:59.680 --> 0:25:03.800 or is there legitimate romance and their legitimate feelings that 0:25:03.840 --> 0:25:05.040 you wish to pursue further. 0:25:09.200 --> 0:25:14.800 It's actually like it is more relationship, but it's not Pierce. 0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:18.320 I have not So when I say I suck with her, 0:25:18.400 --> 0:25:21.439 I think I've not had sex with her or anything 0:25:21.480 --> 0:25:24.680 like that. It is way more than that. I truly 0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:30.480 feel like I think she does as well, and I 0:25:30.520 --> 0:25:33.080 think he also knows that I haven't had sex and 0:25:33.119 --> 0:25:35.720 stuff like that. But at the same time, I feel 0:25:35.720 --> 0:25:38.639 like to him it doesn't really matter too much because 0:25:39.480 --> 0:25:41.720 you know, the fact that I did super the sister 0:25:41.920 --> 0:25:44.840 just makes it really weird, and I feel like makes 0:25:44.880 --> 0:25:49.600 him so so weird for him because I am his 0:25:49.720 --> 0:25:53.440 best friend and two of social the sister. I don't 0:25:53.440 --> 0:25:55.160 know if he finds it worse that I suffer her 0:25:55.359 --> 0:25:58.680 or that I might date her, and that that part 0:25:58.720 --> 0:25:59.680 is the most conflicting. 0:25:59.760 --> 0:26:06.840 Fur Look, I think how old is your friend? You 0:26:06.880 --> 0:26:08.160 said you're you're nineteen, right? 0:26:10.280 --> 0:26:12.480 Uh huh, he's about twenty one. 0:26:12.720 --> 0:26:19.440 He's twenty one, Yeah, twenty one years old, old enough 0:26:20.800 --> 0:26:24.040 to be mature. I think your friend. Look, look, I 0:26:24.040 --> 0:26:26.600 think your friend needs to grow up a little bit, 0:26:27.040 --> 0:26:31.919 a little bit right when you're a how old? How 0:26:31.960 --> 0:26:32.760 old is his sister? 0:26:35.280 --> 0:26:42.040 It's sisters also nineteen, Okay. 0:26:39.800 --> 0:26:42.680 He needs to grow up a little bit. His sister 0:26:43.080 --> 0:26:48.480 is his sister, but a person of her own, independent agency. 0:26:49.720 --> 0:26:54.040 You know, she's free to do what she wants with 0:26:54.160 --> 0:26:59.720 who she wants. Right. This idea that you have some 0:27:00.119 --> 0:27:03.680 form of ownership over your family and what they can 0:27:03.760 --> 0:27:06.920 and can't do, who they can and cannot see, it's 0:27:07.119 --> 0:27:16.560 kind of ridiculous, I think. So I think that that 0:27:18.800 --> 0:27:19.280 go ahead? 0:27:20.280 --> 0:27:23.280 Not go ahead? Sorry, No, I don't want to hear 0:27:23.280 --> 0:27:24.399 it to two against. 0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:28.639