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Speaker 2: They're physically physically anything. Okay, So when you would you

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing pretty well.

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Speaker 2: How I am doing good?

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Speaker 4: Bobby.

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Speaker 2: Bobby says here that you had sex with an incubus

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Speaker 2: the incubus ever since you had that dream. And my

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Speaker 1: You don't know what an incubus is.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea what an incubus is.

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Speaker 1: So it's a type of demon. There are two main

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Speaker 1: They typically prey on women and will uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: I mean, that makes a lot of sense to me, right,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, totally, Because that's another thing about about this instance

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Speaker 2: Bobby. I'm glad to hear that you learned your lesson.

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Speaker 2: It sounds as though you fulfilled a fantasy, sort of

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Speaker 2: I guess the fantasy is a fantasy because it's a dream.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know do we learn anything. I feel

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Speaker 1: I feel like the mind can be a powerful thing.

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Speaker 2: I agree. Thank you very much for calling Bobby.

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Speaker 1: Of course, thank you forrabbing me.

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Speaker 2: You know what, I know that Bobby just told us

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Speaker 6: Just for.

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Speaker 7: Hello, Hello, what's that get?

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Speaker 2: What's up? Not a whole heck of a lot? What's

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Speaker 7: Conflict is kind of intense, So I hope you're prepared.

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Speaker 2: I can assure you I'm not, But I will, I will,

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Speaker 7: ALRIGHTY, well, I appreciate it. Currently, I am pregnant, and

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Speaker 2: Mhmm. Okay, So you're pregnant and you have people in

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 5: And I mean it's it's easy for them to say that,

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Speaker 2: Sure, So I mean, look for forget forgetting about these

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 7: I appreciate that, because sometimes those people don't realize that

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Speaker 7: that's not necessarily feedback in a sense.

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Speaker 2: What are your feelings about this current situation?

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Speaker 7: Well, being twenty two years old and not financially stable,

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Speaker 8: It, which sucks and it's painful.

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Speaker 7: I don't know, it's difficult at the same time, like

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and to what degree that's okay, So now that

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Speaker 7: I think, just like the opinion itself is they do.

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Speaker 7: I mean, honestly, it's like pretty much daddy issues type

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Speaker 7: Although if I'm expected to make changes in my life,

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Speaker 2: Sure. Sure, let me ask you that have you have

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Speaker 7: Yeah? Here, there is a therapist at the program that

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Speaker 7: Well, she offers suggestions, She offers a lot of validation.

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Speaker 7: What suggestions she's offered me, suggestions of like maybe bringing

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. He's not obligated to really

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Speaker 2: Well, and and listen, I'll say this, it sounds like

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Speaker 2: I don't know how you actually you know. I I

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Speaker 2: But you know, I think it's great that you've been

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Speaker 2: good luck to you man. That's that's that's yeah, for sure,

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Speaker 7: I have a good night, Annon, he as well, thank

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Speaker 7: you bye.

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Speaker 2: Whatever armchair gecko therapy here. But she had this like

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Speaker 2: down to these objective steps with her therapist of like

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Speaker 2: I would like to bond with you once a week

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Speaker 2: on Tuesdays at six pm. Like very definitive sort of

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Speaker 2: way of going about it. That's smart. Hi is this.

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Speaker 3: Jake, Yes, this is Jake Jick.

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Speaker 2: Is there anything in particular you wanted to talk about

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Speaker 2: this evening?

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Speaker 9: That's right, I want to talk about me sleeping with

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Speaker 9: my friend's sister.

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Speaker 2: And what is your relationship like with your friends?

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Speaker 9: He's actually my best friend. He's actually one of my

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Speaker 2: How does your friend? Does your friend know that you

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Speaker 10: He does?

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Speaker 2: And how did he find out? Did you tell him?

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Speaker 2: Did she tell him? Did he find out some other way?

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Speaker 9: It's it's it's actually a little bit worse than that.

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Speaker 9: My friend. So so he had thrown a little bit,

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Speaker 2: What so he he walked on you?

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Speaker 9: Essentially, he basically did walk in on me. Made it

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Speaker 2: M And what was his reaction? I assume that you

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Speaker 9: Oh no, no, it was it was even worse than that.

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Speaker 11: I had.

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Speaker 9: We had gone to the tailgate, right which I and

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Speaker 9: we had gone to the tailgate and we didn't say

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Speaker 9: or I drove him there, and at the tailgate.

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Speaker 1: What ends up happening is.

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Speaker 9: That, uh, you know, at some point, you know, weoking

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Speaker 9: but I didn't end up telling you how to friend.

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Speaker 9: And it's a large friend group of like like twenty

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Speaker 2: And so this relationship that you have with your friend's

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Speaker 9: It's actually like it is more relationship, but it's not Pierce.

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Speaker 9: I have not So when I say I suck with her,

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Speaker 9: I think I've not had sex with her or anything

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Speaker 9: like that. It is way more than that. I truly

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Speaker 2: Fur Look, I think how old is your friend? You

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Speaker 9: Uh huh, he's about twenty one.

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Speaker 2: He's twenty one, Yeah, twenty one years old, old enough

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Speaker 9: It's sisters also nineteen, Okay.

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Speaker 2: He needs to grow up a little bit. His sister

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Speaker 2: You know, she's free to do what she wants with

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, well I was. I sort of said what

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Speaker 2: And there's nothing to me I inherently wrong about you

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Speaker 2: I think is the concerning part to me, So I.

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Speaker 9: Entirely agreely in a lot of ways. One of the

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Speaker 2: He's avoiding the conversation. Have you have you attempted to

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Speaker 9: I actually really haven't.

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Speaker 2: Well, then that's got to be on you to initiate

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Speaker 9: So if you don't mind, how should I like, what's

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Speaker 9: the most appropriate way that I could bring it? If

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Speaker 2: Well, what's the truth? Tell me the truth?

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Speaker 9: I like her a lot and I want him, and

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Speaker 9: I'm honestly worried that he's not okay.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you like her a lot, you want to be

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Speaker 2: but you're worried he's not okay with it. That's your truth, right,

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Speaker 2: that's how you feel.

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Speaker 4: That is how I feel.

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Speaker 2: Yes, say that to him. That's how you do it.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, you might write to be honest with him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just be honest with him. It's not going to

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Speaker 2: kill you. It's not going to kill him, it's not

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Speaker 2: going to kill her. Just collect the truth and then

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Speaker 2: present it to him. And that's the smoothest way that

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Speaker 2: I believe you will have this conversation.

443
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 10: Okay.

444
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 9: And so this is just me being a little bit paranoid.

445
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 10: Okay, but I just gotta ask.

446
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 9: I don't really have too many other people ask, but

447
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 9: what if he's.

448
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 4: Not okay with it?

449
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: What?

450
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 9: And like it almost became a scenario where I had

451
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 9: to choose between him and his sister.

452
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 4: What do I do?

453
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:33,479
Speaker 2: Then, Well, that's up to you. But if you're asking

454
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 2: my subjective opinion, I think him not being okay with

455
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 2: it is a Hymn problem because, again, as I said,

456
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 2: it's on him. He has to do the growing up

457
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 2: of understanding that his sister is an independent person, that

458
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 2: he does not have control over who she dates or

459
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 2: what she does with her life. And I think that

460
00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 2: maturing into understanding that is on him more than it

461
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 2: is on.

462
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 3: You.

463
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 9: Yeah, thank you so much. I actually really appreciate this

464
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 9: a lot.

465
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 2: Good good, good, well, good luck to you in addressing this.

466
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 2: I hope it doesn't get too uncomfortable for you, and

467
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 2: I appreciate your calling.

468
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

469
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 9: Oh sorry, my friend. Sorry, Can I ask you one

470
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 9: more questions?

471
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 10: This isn't me or anything like that?

472
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 4: Is it cool?

473
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 9: I ask you one more questions?

474
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 2: What's up?

475
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 9: So my friends asking me?

476
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 8: What?

477
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 10: But what's your favorite color?

478
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 2: Blue?

479
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 11: Blue?

480
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 10: All right, thanks so much.

481
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 2: Have a good night.

482
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 10: All right, have a good one.

483
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 2: Karina.

484
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 6: Hey, what's going on?

485
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 2: Korena? Koreana? Krena, Koreana, Korea. We've we've I feel like

486
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 2: we've talked to a lot of people this evening, who

487
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 2: how do I about this? They they're wondering if they're

488
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 2: doing the correct thing with their lives. It's a hard

489
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 2: thing to to to to figure out. I wonder that

490
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 2: all the time, you know, I I I'm growing more

491
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 2: and more, more and more aware of my own mortality

492
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 2: and the fact that you know, you think that the

493
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 2: days you think you have time, but you don't. The

494
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 2: days they they go by right, And you know, how

495
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 2: do you how do you? How do you? How do

496
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 2: you know? How do you know? How do you know? Korena?

497
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 2: How do you know? Korea? How do you know that

498
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 2: you're doing the right thing? Koreina?

499
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 6: I feel like the end of the day, I will

500
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 6: reflect upon the things that I've done and to see

501
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 6: how I feel that I've been doing. I don't always

502
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 6: know that I'm doing the right thing all the time,

503
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 6: but I feel like as long as I genuinely try

504
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 6: to make good decisions, at least I can learn from

505
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 6: them if it wasn't the right.

506
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 2: Choice, tell me, tell me, I mean, are there decisions

507
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,719
Speaker 2: that you've made in the past that you are You

508
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 2: look back and you wish you had not made.

509
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 6: I normally am not a person to say that I

510
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 6: regret anything. The only thing I would say I wish

511
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 6: I did sooner was start investing at a younger age.

512
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 2: What would you have invested in.

513
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 6: Bitcoin in twenty ten? For sure? Perhaps the buying a

514
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 6: house during the recession in the twenty eight to twenty

515
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 6: ten times when the housing price is tanked.

516
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 2: See wish you had made more investments. But I mean,

517
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 2: what would you have done with the money now? Is

518
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 2: is is money? If you had a lot of money,

519
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,399
Speaker 2: how would you use it to improve your life?

520
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 6: I would buy so many wigs. I like love dressing

521
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 6: up and doing costumes and stuff. And I recently shaved

522
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 6: my head and I've been loving it. But I'm like

523
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 6: wearing all these crazy wigs, and I would just get

524
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 6: all these different colors and styles and like be a

525
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 6: different person every day.

526
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 2: Koreina. It says here that you are feeling really good

527
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 2: about life today. You want to share good things you

528
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 2: have going on. Says you're in a polyamorous relationship that

529
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 2: you feel is notable. Says you've been married for ten

530
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 2: years and that you're a flight attendant now. Of all

531
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 2: those things that you've discussed is which what do you

532
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 2: what do you feel would be the best one to

533
00:34:58,440 --> 00:34:59,240
Speaker 2: talk about this evening.

534
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 6: I have really been enjoying that I'm in a polyamorous

535
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 6: relationship lately. So my husband and I we've been seeing

536
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 6: this couple and we've been dating for about four months now.

537
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 6: So yeah, I have a husband and a boyfriend. And

538
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:19,280
Speaker 6: then he has a joyfriend because the person that he's

539
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 6: seeing their non binary, so they prefer joyfriend over a girlfriend.

540
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 6: And yeah, it's a lot of fun because yes, he

541
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 6: gets to like hang out and like do the things

542
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 6: that I'm not. Like they smoke weed, and then my

543
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 6: boyfriend and I like to drink, so we can like

544
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 6: share each other's passions and interests that like maybe my

545
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 6: husband doesn't always want to do.

546
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 2: And and are you are you good friends with your

547
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 2: husband's joyfriend?

548
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 6: Yeah, we get along really well. Yeah I really like them.

549
00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 6: We yeah, we all we're all dating each Other's quite

550
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 6: the experience actually.

551
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 2: And have you always been in a polyamorous relationship.

552
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 6: I've always wanted to be. We've we've had a girlfriend

553
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 6: in the past. So I guess whatever you call a

554
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 6: three person I guess it still would be polyamorous. We've

555
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 6: had a girlfriend in the past, and it's always been

556
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 6: my idea, which is why I think we've been in

557
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 6: a had good luck initiating like threesomes and having a

558
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 6: girlfriend and having another partner is like I will kind

559
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 6: of like start that process of seeking another person or

560
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 6: another couple, and we've had a lot of good luck

561
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 6: that way.

562
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 2: Hmm. So is is this a a lifestyle that you

563
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 2: have always wanted to pursue or interesting? Interesting? M hmm.

564
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 2: And has it been difficult to find other people who

565
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 2: are who are matched up with you in the desire

566
00:36:59,000 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 2: to pursue this lifestyle.

567
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, huh, it's very I believe unique lifestyle. I feel

568
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 6: like the percentage of people that can get on board

569
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 6: with it, we've had, like we've had a couple other

570
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 6: couples approach us but either like we weren't ready as

571
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 6: a couple, or like only one person, like the guy

572
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 6: would come on to me, but not both of us

573
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 6: or his girlfriends. So it's weird and imbalanced. So it

574
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 6: took us quite a long time before we actually found

575
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 6: someone like another couple that like we really clicked with.

576
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 2: M And and would you consider all of you all

577
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 2: all of yourselves to all be I guess, I guess

578
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 2: you would say pan sexual.

579
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 6: Oh I wouldn't necessarily say so. I would say the

580
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 6: joyfriend and I are bisexual. And then both of them

581
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 6: men are definitely straight, so they're not like doing anything

582
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:54,919
Speaker 6: with each other.

583
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 2: And has it been difficult too, because it sounds like

584
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,280
Speaker 2: the relationships are not are not purely sexual, they're also

585
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 2: are also romantic and emotional relationships.

586
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 6: That is, you're absolutely right, it's a whole other level

587
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 6: because there's a physical attraction. I feel like initially with

588
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 6: all that like new partner, new person in the bedroom,

589
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 6: but there is all these extra layers like we're learning

590
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 6: how maybe one person is a little bit more emotionally

591
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,919
Speaker 6: available than the other, maybe someone else is like better

592
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,959
Speaker 6: at giving advice or seeing things a different perspective. And yeah,

593
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 6: you're right, there's this whole like emotional like physical, mental,

594
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 6: spiritual levels and different perspective. I think that's probably my

595
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 6: favorite part about it is you get different perspectives about

596
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 6: life or opinions or situations that maybe you don't get

597
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 6: from what I like to call your main your main partner.

598
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 2: Your main partner. Okay, so there are there are you

599
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 2: would say ranking within the system mm hmm. And now

600
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 2: does that ever get difficult with people being unhappy with

601
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 2: how they rank.

602
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 6: I think communication is definitely the best thing for that,

603
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,240
Speaker 6: and maybe it could be challenging for like a new

604
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 6: poly couple that like maybe hasn't been dating for it

605
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 6: for very long. But it's like because my husband and

606
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 6: I like were married and we've been like established for

607
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 6: so long, Like he's just my main Like there's no distinguishable,

608
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 6: Like I never felt like competitive or where anyone's going

609
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 6: to take anyone away from each other. I just think

610
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 6: it's laughable because you just know who your main person

611
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 6: is and as long as you're like taking care of them,

612
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 6: then other people can come along for the ride.

613
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:55,879
Speaker 2: It's true, it does.

614
00:39:56,160 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 11: It requires a a a strong amount of trust between

615
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 11: the two of you that you are are emotionally committed

616
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 11: to one another.

617
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 2: While still being able to pursue external emotional connections.

618
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, you're so right about that. It's actually

619
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 6: really really good to talk to someone about this because

620
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 6: I've only told like a few people in my friend group,

621
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 6: but we're kind of private about it because it's not

622
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 6: the most accepted lifestyle in the whole world. So you're

623
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 6: making me realize some things that, Yeah, the emotional stability

624
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 6: is very strong.

625
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 2: Why do you feel as though you cannot tell your

626
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 2: friends that you are polyamorous?

627
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 6: It's challenging to explain, and I feel like a lot

628
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 6: of people wouldn't be interested or choose in that lifestyle.

629
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 6: And I'm fortunately I live in the part of the world.

630
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 6: I'm in Portland, organ where people are a little bit

631
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 6: more open minded and liberal, But I feel like some

632
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 6: of it, like depending on where you live, it can

633
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 6: be hard to come out as Pauli like let alone,

634
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 6: you know, in the LGBT community or gay like Unfortunately,

635
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 6: I wish it wasn't the type of world that we

636
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 6: live in. But I kind of see it more as

637
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 6: like my personal life that I'm Paulie and I just

638
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 6: kind of tell my very close friends, but I don't

639
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 6: like advertise it on like my social media or anything

640
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 6: like that.

641
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:49,720
Speaker 2: Do you feel any sort of internal internal shame about

642
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 2: it or is it merely an issue of you like

643
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 2: having your personal life private and that's just a simple

644
00:41:58,840 --> 00:41:59,760
Speaker 2: preference of yours.

645
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 6: I'd see it's a preference. I just like to keep something,

646
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 6: you know, to some things on the down load some

647
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 6: some secretive but I'm I'm proud to be by and

648
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 6: have another couple that's in our lives and someone that

649
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,399
Speaker 6: do we just get like sure experiences with.

650
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 3: Now.

651
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 2: I'm actually I have a question about about about this lifestyle.

652
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 2: Do you find yourself content with your current your current

653
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 2: partnerships that you have in your life or does the

654
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 2: fact that your all of your agreement with other with

655
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:52,439
Speaker 2: with each other leaves you able to pursue even more

656
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 2: relationships and connections outside of your existing ones. Does does

657
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 2: that ever create any any kind of disease of more

658
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 2: for you where where you desire even even further, even

659
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 2: further partners or are you very fully content with the

660
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:14,919
Speaker 2: amount of relationships that you currently have.

661
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 6: I feel fairly content with where we are. I'm we're

662
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 6: fairly exclusive to just this one couple, But it wouldn't

663
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 6: be completely like out of the ordinary if like maybe

664
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 6: we wanted to go off and do like a threesome

665
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 6: thing or like have another girl with us, But at

666
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 6: this time, like it's already pretty involved involved. I just

667
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 6: don't have time for that. I guess I already, you know,

668
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 6: like dating one person is pretty involved, let alone you know,

669
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 6: three and it's not just sex, like we're here for

670
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 6: each other like emotionally and mentally too.

671
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 2: See. It's it's interesting that you're describing all this because

672
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 2: I think to myself, I'm like, you know, I mean

673
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 2: even having one partner, having one I mean, because here's

674
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 2: the thing, your own emotions, feelings, desires, all that stuff.

675
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 2: It's hard enough to manage like yourself, right, your feelings, emotions,

676
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 2: and then you bring up and then if you want

677
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 2: to have a partner, you know, you plug in the

678
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 2: second controller. Now you're dealing with a whole other set

679
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 2: of emotions and feelings in your life. And then if

680
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 2: you add a to add to add a third and

681
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 2: a fourth set of I mean, that's like a high.

682
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 2: Why are juggling act?

683
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 6: I'm impressed by it. It's a lot of emotions. And

684
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 6: I like to joke that I save all my crappy,

685
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 6: really bad shit for my main because he's already married

686
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 6: and he has to put up with me. And then

687
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 6: I had I save my most fun, best self for

688
00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 6: my boyfriend. Not that we're not excuse me, not that

689
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 6: we're not like I'm not emotionally available to my boyfriend,

690
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 6: but my main kind of does more of the heavy stuff,

691
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 6: if you will.

692
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 2: This sounds like when you like when people who have

693
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,760
Speaker 2: been with one cell phone company for a long time

694
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 2: get upset that the new customers get a better.

695
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 3: Deal one hundred percent.

696
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:30,760
Speaker 6: Oh my god. Yeah, we just keep adding extra lines.

697
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 6: That's when my relationship life is.

698
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 2: What is your name again?

699
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 6: Karina?

700
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 2: Karina?

701
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 6: Uh?

702
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 2: Thank you for calling. Is there any other thoughts, feelings, sentiments,

703
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 2: anything and all that you wish to share with the

704
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 2: people before we go?

705
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, anyone that's interested in poly lifestyle is just just

706
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 6: communicate a lot with each other and have a good time.

707
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 2: Thank you keep for calling Karina. Have a good rest

708
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 2: of the night.

709
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks le.

710
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, how are you.

711
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 3: Doing here?

712
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 10: He about yourself?

713
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 2: I'm doing good. I'm a gecko on the computer underwater.

714
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 2: How can I get you this evening? Eli?

715
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 10: Really just need advice. I know, you know you're not

716
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 10: a doctor or therapist. Find a means, but really have

717
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:39,439
Speaker 10: this problem about you know, the proper timing of going

718
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 10: to the restroom. Sure, sometimes it happens on a toilet,

719
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 10: sometimes it happens in my pants, And don't really know

720
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 10: how to go about it.

721
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 2: How often are you going to the bathroom? In your pants.

722
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 6: Uh.

723
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 10: I would say about every every three months, ever since

724
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 10: I was about seven years old.

725
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 2: Every three mounds to you? About seven years old? How

726
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 2: old are you now?

727
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 10: Twenty two?

728
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 2: Chat? Someone do that math? Do you know the math?

729
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 2: What's the math on this? Every three months?

730
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 7: Ah?

731
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 2: Hey, we can do the math right now. Okay, twenty

732
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 2: two minus seven? What's that?

733
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 10: Fifteen?

734
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 2: Fifteen? Okay? Fifteen times?

735
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 3: Uh?

736
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 2: Four? Every quarter? All right, so that's sixty times you've

737
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 2: you've gone to the bathroom hands sixty times? Start your

738
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 2: whole life.

739
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's thinking about that with that big of a number.

740
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 10: It happened pretty often.

741
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 2: I feel like sixty two. I genuinely I feel like

742
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:55,439
Speaker 2: sixty times. It's not that much. That's not that bad.

743
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:56,879
Speaker 2: It's once a quarter.

744
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,280
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, that's really not bad.

745
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 2: Okay, well look, don't let me tell you it's not bad.

746
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,720
Speaker 2: How do you feel about you going to the bathroom

747
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,879
Speaker 2: your pants? What is that experience like for you? Is it?

748
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 2: Is it severely unpleasant? Uh?

749
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 10: I would just say the amount of stress that it causes,

750
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 10: like the build up to the poop. It just stresses

751
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 10: me out. It happens, you know, when I'm out partying.

752
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 10: It happens to me when I'm driving, and it's an

753
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 10: uncomfortable feeling. Eventually, you know, the poop gets cold and

754
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,720
Speaker 10: I have to throw away a good pair of underwear,

755
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 10: you know, all.

756
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 2: Right, So let's break down that stress. What like, like

757
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 2: to the bare bones, What aspects of pooping your pants

758
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 2: stress you out the most, because there's several there's several of.

759
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 3: Them, right.

760
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 2: There's uh, the the physical uncomfortable sensation of being in

761
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 2: that situation. There's a little bit of embarrassment there, there's

762
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:12,919
Speaker 2: a financial thing you might have to throw out those

763
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 2: underwer and buy new ones. Of all the different variables

764
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 2: of what happens to you when you have shot your pants.

765
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 2: What stresses you out the most? Or is it or

766
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 2: is it a symphony of those things?

767
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 10: I believe it's a symphony. But the main thing that

768
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 10: gets under my skin is, you know, thinking that I

769
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:39,320
Speaker 10: have a good chance of reaching a toilet when in reality,

770
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 10: you know, I wasn't even close to the toilet.

771
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 12: Yeah, okay, So maybe this is an issue of acceptance,

772
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 12: right because you're anticipating that you will be able to

773
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 12: get to the bathroom in time for you to.

774
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 2: Not share your pants, and that gets your helps up,

775
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 2: which leaves you vulnerable and unprepared to emotionally deal with

776
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 2: this situation that has been inevitable all along.

777
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's kind of kind of like a cat chasing

778
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 10: a laser when I think of it.

779
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, you said you were deployed in Iran when

780
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 2: this happened.

781
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's it. Uh happened to me a couple of

782
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 10: times there and now one time it was with p

783
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 10: and it was not good. We were on mission, and uh,

784
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 10: there's really nothing I could do about it, you know,

785
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 10: just twelve hours, you know, poopy pants and what underwear?

786
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 2: Wow? So you were walking around for twelve hours with

787
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 2: poopy pants in uh? On a mission? What was the

788
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 2: what was the mission?

789
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 7: Uh?

790
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 10: We were escorting some British generals around him, and uh,

791
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 10: you know when we're driving, we drove like four hours

792
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 10: straight and you know you can't stop. And with the

793
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 10: level amount of security of my mission I required, you know,

794
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:12,399
Speaker 10: I couldn't couldn't leave my post, couldn't go anywhere. So

795
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 10: I just had to deal with it.

796
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 2: And did anybody else in your squad know that you

797
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 2: had pooved your pants or were you able to keep

798
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 2: it a secret for twelve hours.

799
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 10: One person knew about it. It was my platoon leader.

800
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 10: He was an officer. He mentioned that in our vehicle

801
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 10: smelled mike poop, and I told him, I'm like, hey,

802
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 10: you actually you know, poot my pants at the beginning

803
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 10: of the mission, and he just said, you know, you'd

804
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 10: sit tight. It happens.

805
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 2: But yeah, so he was understanding about it. He didn't

806
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 2: give you a hard.

807
00:51:55,800 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 10: Time, No, he didn't. But when we got back to

808
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 10: our outpost, he he told everybody, and from then on

809
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 10: out for the rest of the deployment, everyone called me

810
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 10: poopy Pans or a variation of that name.

811
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 2: He told everybody. Why did he tell everybody?

812
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 10: I just from his point of view, I think it

813
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 10: would be funny, and I kind of laughed a little

814
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 10: bit too. But you know, it got old pretty easy.

815
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 2: Well, think about it like this. It got old for you,

816
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 2: befriend else for everyone else on the platoon. It was

817
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 2: probably pretty funny for at least a solid amount of

818
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 2: time after it stopped being funny for you.

819
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 10: Yeah, and I can I think I know where you're

820
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 10: going with this. You know, it provided someone else, you know,

821
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 10: a joyful experience to gain that laughter, to show that

822
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 10: son trying to the clousea or whatever. But yeah, you know.

823
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,360
Speaker 2: What, I wasn't even thinking about it like that. But

824
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 2: now that you bring it up, that is a very

825
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 2: nice positive spin on things. You were able to actually

826
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 2: provide value to your fellow Americans by pooping your pants,

827
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 2: and in a way it is your job being in

828
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 2: the military. Two. I suppose what the ethos of it

829
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:39,720
Speaker 2: is to protect and serve, right, and by pooping your pants,

830
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 2: you were in a way serving.

831
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 10: Yeah I didn't. I didn't see it that way, but

832
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 10: you know, in a bigger picture, you know, did something good.

833
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 2: What did you say? Your name was.

834
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 10: Eli?

835
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 2: Thank you for calling Eli.

836
00:53:58,960 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 10: You have a good night.

837
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:06,919
Speaker 1: Get hello, Kelsey, Hi, gek, how are you?

838
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 2: I'm a gecko on the computer? Kelsey. It says here

839
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 2: you have a story about a lumberjack incident that happened

840
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:22,280
Speaker 2: eleventh grade. What is what is this incidence? Yeah?

841
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 13: Yeah, it's really haunted me since and if any of

842
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 13: my classmates for are watching from way back when, you

843
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 13: know what I'm talking about. But basically what happened was

844
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 13: our teachers. This was a year where we had I

845
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 13: guess like career exploration. So they decided let's go and

846
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 13: take them on a vocational exploration field trip. And so

847
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 13: we were privileged enough we got to go on a

848
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 13: field trip to the woods in Arkansas, that's where I

849
00:54:54,480 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 13: grew up. And we went to this restreet area and

850
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 13: they were it was like this cool place where I guess,

851
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 13: you know, the bunch of lumberjacks go out and business

852
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 13: people and they sell lumber to like all these other

853
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 13: countries and to representatives who come out. We learned about

854
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 13: the trade, and unbeknownst to us, there was a lumberjack

855
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 13: competition that was going on in international Lumberjack Competition. I

856
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 13: was like, holy crap, this is pretty cool. So we

857
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 13: ride on up to the lag rolling event and there

858
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 13: were two lumberjacks right, and they're all decked out. They

859
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 13: get at it, so they do a couple of rounds

860
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:40,720
Speaker 13: of log rolling until one of them he racks himself

861
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 13: on a log right, but valiantly he gets back up

862
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 13: and he starts spinning on the log again. They resume

863
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 13: the competition, but like you know, I'm I'm a seventh

864
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 13: grade girl, and I'm just I was really sheltered as

865
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,359
Speaker 13: a kid. I didn't know what was happening. I saw

866
00:55:56,400 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 13: a little pink thing dangling in the wind, and his

867
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 13: penis was out like he had split his pants, and

868
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 13: just like in front of my seventh grade class, he

869
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 13: was just like rolling along and like bounce a little.

870
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 13: There was like this little mulerat looking thing. And I

871
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 13: didn't know about growers versus showers. I didn't know any

872
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 13: of that. And anyway, next week we had sex education

873
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 13: and they can't force that on us. And you know,

874
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 13: now I look at like an axe or a beard

875
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 13: or like plaid even and I just can't think of

876
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 13: anything else. And by expansion, trees, piles of wood, pbr,

877
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 13: you know, Lumberjackson, that all.

878
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 2: Make you think specifically of that lumberjacks penis.

879
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, definitely.

880
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 2: So did this lumberjack when his pants split and his

881
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 2: penis was exposed to bunch of seventh graders, did he know?

882
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 13: I honestly kind of think he did. And that's the

883
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 13: that's the thing, really. I he kind of had like

884
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 13: a look, like a little twinkle in his eye to

885
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 13: this day, yeah, I mean to this day, I just

886
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 13: don't know, Like I can't confirm it. Obviously. If I

887
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 13: could speak to the guy, which I still I don't

888
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 13: think I would ever. But I mean, he's gonna be

889
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 13: like this creepy old man in a bar, you know,

890
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 13: drinking away his sorrows. And one day he confesses to

891
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 13: a guy, He's like, you know what I did? I

892
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 13: log my penis was out from a bunch of seventh graders.

893
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 13: You know what.

894
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 1: I liked it.

895
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 13: That's what he's gonna say.

896
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 2: I have a feeling, what how did how did your school?

897
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 2: Where'd your school find this guy?

898
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 13: Honestly, I don't know. I think it was one of

899
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 13: the newer teachers that set this whole thing up. She

900
00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 13: was kind of.

901
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 2: Horrified, Yeah, what what happened? So what happens after this?

902
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 2: Does the guy? Does anyone be like, hey man that

903
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 2: you're like when your fly is down, people at least

904
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 2: have the common courtesy to tell you. No one told

905
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 2: this man, what what what has going on?

906
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 1: I think we.

907
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:22,439
Speaker 13: Were all in shock. I didn't really see a whole

908
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 13: lot of what happened after that, because they kind of like, like, okay, kids,

909
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 13: let's go, it's it's time to go home, you know,

910
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 13: But I always like to wonder what happened.

911
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 2: I can't get you say, whenever you look at an

912
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 2: axe or a piece of what anything. Let me check

913
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 2: you think about specifically that guy's pianists? Does that? Does

914
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 2: that bother you to you wish that you could uh

915
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 2: look at trees without thinking about that?

916
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 13: Honestly?

917
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 9: Yeah?

918
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 13: I mean like when I look at trees and stuff,

919
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 13: I want to like envision, you know, like oh, cool treehouses.

920
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 13: We were like, oh nature, but no instead penis mm hmm.

921
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 2: There's gotta be some sort of replacement. This is like

922
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 2: another weird This is like a real therapist thing, Like

923
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 2: you can probably do some sort of mental hack to

924
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 2: like rewire your brain to associate trees with like something else,

925
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 2: but you gotta you gotta replace it with something. There's

926
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 2: definitely something here would go wrong you can do. What

927
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 2: would you want?

928
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 3: What do you?

929
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 2: What do you? What do you want to think of

930
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 2: when you what do you? What do you want to

931
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 2: think of when you see trees? You want to think

932
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 2: of like life and all that dumb stuff.

933
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 13: Probably probably like birds and ship okay, like cool birds,

934
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 13: not not like the weird ones.

935
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 2: Even give classical conditioning, like all right, every time you

936
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 2: see a bird and every time you see a tree

937
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 2: and you think of penis you like you ever make

938
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,479
Speaker 2: an effort you're like, Oh, I'm gonna start thinking about

939
00:59:57,480 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 2: birds now, like you try to like shove that in there.

940
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 13: You know, honestly I've never tried, but I think now

941
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 13: kind of equipped with something else. So I'll I'll try

942
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 13: to think of like owls or hawks or like cool

943
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 13: little eagles or something.

944
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, now you got like something to replace the

945
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 2: penis with other way, that's a good start.

946
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, I think I'll try that.

947
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 2: Oh, is there anything else you want to talk about

948
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 2: before we go? Casey?

949
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 13: No, I think I'm good. Geck, I think you've helped

950
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 13: me and uh and yeah, I wish you a really

951
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 13: good night, and I hope you never have that happened ever.

952
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 2: Oh what a lumberjack exposes penis to me?

953
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 13: Just any kind of like penis exposure that's unwanted, were unwelcome.

954
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 2: I I appreciate you wishing that upon.

955
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 13: Me, just looking out for you.

956
01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 2: Get have a good night, Casey, he can Hello. Hello,

957
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 2: This is interesting, Jeremy. It says here that you were

958
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 2: dealing with quote a lot of idiots end quote, and

959
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 2: quote people pushing your buttons lately end quote.

960
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, so I gotta I got an interesting story

961
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 3: about that. So you know, uh, I'm in college right now,

962
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 3: you know, getting my degree, you know, wasting my money

963
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 3: a little bit here and there. And I just wanted

964
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 3: your overall advice because there's this one fucko that like,

965
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 3: I like the word fucko, so I'm gonna use that.

966
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 3: And he was like, I'm in this bioclass you know,

967
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 3: Jenna suck, but I have to finishing them.

968
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 10: Up this year.

969
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 3: And I like walking with my sunglasses because you know,

970
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 3: I like seeing outside, and he's like shaming me for

971
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 3: in sunglasses. I'm like, bro, I don't even know you.

972
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 3: I like seeing when it's uh right outside.

973
01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 2: And then like you you said, he started shaming you

974
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 2: for your sunglasses. What is that in practice?

975
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 3: It's like it's like, I guess bullying is probably the

976
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 3: like right term, but I couldn't really care. But it's

977
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 3: like this guy.

978
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 2: Boil it down to me for like, uh, boil it

979
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 2: down to me as some sort of uh uh physical

980
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 2: or verbal action like to shame someone. It's not it's

981
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 2: not a real action. What did he actually do or say?

982
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, I see what you mean. I see what

983
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 3: you mean. All right. So this guy, basically he he

984
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 3: just makes comments about anything I'm wearing or things that

985
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 3: I'm doing, or like if I'm like late to class

986
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:48,920
Speaker 3: or whatever. And it's more so like I really shouldn't

987
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 3: let it bother me at all because it's stupid. But

988
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 3: he just like lives in my head rent free, you

989
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 3: know what I mean. Like it's a one.

990
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 2: Person Jeremy, Jeremy, Jeremy, You're going on this long thing,

991
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 2: and I get you. There's a lot of emotion here

992
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 2: and you're selling.

993
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 3: Me the oh yeah, so much emotion.

994
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're upset at this guy. You don't like this guy.

995
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 2: But lost in all this emotion, have we really you

996
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 2: haven't said anything what he actually say.

997
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 3: It's more so than from what he was actually saying,

998
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 3: because he's not necessarily being an asshole as any of it.

999
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 2: It's just like, how let you do this again? Okay okay, okay,

1000
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 2: yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.

1001
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 3: So you get the emotion, You get the emotion, right, yeah, okay, okay.

1002
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 2: I get it that you don't like this guy. But Jeremy,

1003
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 2: yeah yeah did he say so?

1004
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 3: He will be like I come in the clouds and

1005
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 3: he'll be like, oh you're with the sunglasses again, or

1006
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 3: it's really nothing like that bad if that makes any sense.

1007
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 3: But it gets under my skin, you know, like you

1008
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 3: can feel that emotion, you know, that anger. It's like

1009
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 3: he's just paying attention to like every little thing I'm

1010
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 3: doing and making, like some really tiny common like oh youth,

1011
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 3: the sunglasses, and like I don't know why it bothers me,

1012
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 3: but he lives in my head rent free, you know.

1013
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 2: Okay, it's all right, all right. I feel like I

1014
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 2: get you now. I feel like I get you now.

1015
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 2: He's referring to you.

1016
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 3: Like it's hard to like give this is referring.

1017
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 2: To you by your clothes, and and he's making okay, okay,

1018
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 2: I get this now. The reason why we're not singling

1019
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 2: out any particular remark he made is because, at the

1020
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 2: end of the day, it's not about the remark. It's

1021
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 2: about the general sentiment that he is giving off through

1022
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 2: multiple strings of things that he's saying and doing in

1023
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 2: a way he's acting. So Okay, I understand now, so

1024
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 2: this guy's but who this guy's in one of your classes?

1025
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's and one of my classes, And yeah,

1026
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 3: I agree, I think. Yeah, the overall sentiment, it's like

1027
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 3: it really shouldn't be that big of a deal. But

1028
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 3: it's just like, and it's not really necessarily like disrespectful either.

1029
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 3: It's just like and I don't want to be an

1030
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 3: asshleton and be like, bro, like shut the fuck up, right,

1031
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 3: because I'm not trying to start issues.

1032
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 2: M question? Can I say that question? Because yeah, of course,

1033
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 2: are you upset that you are upset by this?

1034
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1035
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, like it really shouldn't be something. I'm upset well,

1036
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:36,439
Speaker 3: and I don't even know if upset right word. I'm

1037
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 3: just like so like annoyed by it that it's like

1038
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 3: upsetting me.

1039
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, uh, I have. I got a couple of

1040
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:48,920
Speaker 2: things here. Maybe let's see.

1041
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's see it.

1042
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 2: So okay, well okay, but so when you brought up

1043
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 2: you okay, the idea I can hear this from from

1044
01:05:56,560 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 2: what you're saying, the idea of saying something to him,

1045
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 2: of going back to him is boiling in your head.

1046
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 2: But typically that's I mean, that's true because you told

1047
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 2: me you were like I think about saying that. But

1048
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 2: when that idea boils in your head, it boils in

1049
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 2: your head in the form of hey, shut the fuck up.

1050
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 2: Fuck you don't dare talk about me, Go fuck yourself,

1051
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 2: you know. But it boils in your head. It boils

1052
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 2: in your head in the form of let's go back aggressive.

1053
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 2: I ask you, have you considered other angles of of

1054
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 2: of going back to him aside from just the the

1055
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 2: aggressive angle? I you know, an angle of hey, you know, look,

1056
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 2: I don't know if you're meaning to do this. I

1057
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 2: don't know what the hell is going on here? But

1058
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 2: why do you keep you know, and in a an

1059
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 2: appeal and inquisitive and why are you talking to me

1060
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 2: like this? It's it's bothering me, Like can we get

1061
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 2: down to the to the bottom of this here?

1062
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if I thought of any other angle,

1063
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 3: Like I said, when I meant like I've been doing

1064
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 3: with a lot of idiots. There's just a lot of

1065
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 3: people that are like under my skin, good or bad reasons.

1066
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 3: And you know, it's like he's like one of those

1067
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 3: last straws, Like I've had more serious things go on,

1068
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 3: and so I think him being like that last straw

1069
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 3: is why I'm like thinking that angle, like I hate

1070
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 3: this guy, you know what I mean?

1071
01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 2: Mhm, h Okay, this guy, this guy in particular, have

1072
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 2: you had any interactions with him outside of him just

1073
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 2: calling you sunglasses?

1074
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 3: Boy. Nah, Nah, it's weird. It's weird. Yeah, I haven't

1075
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 3: had like any interaction with him before. It's likely That's

1076
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 3: why I'm like, hmmm, I.

1077
01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 2: Feel like, you gotta you gotta appeal to him in

1078
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 2: some way, you gotta have a further if this guy

1079
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 2: is really living in your head, rent Free, I feel

1080
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 2: like something and this timeline is healing moments where you

1081
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:10,919
Speaker 2: actually get to know this guy because you're you hate

1082
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 2: him because he's you know, kind of fucking with you

1083
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 2: and and putting off this antagonistic sentiment. But you two

1084
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:24,559
Speaker 2: don't really know each other at all. Yeah, how could

1085
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 2: you get to know him more? And how would that

1086
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 2: change the way he acts towards you? And how would

1087
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 2: that change the way you act towards him? I don't know,

1088
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 2: because I don't know, sort.

1089
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 3: Of, you know, I don't know. I feel like, you know,

1090
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:38,040
Speaker 3: that's not that's not a terrible idea, but I feel

1091
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 3: like it that's a lot of work because I look

1092
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:44,599
Speaker 3: at it. The class like had like five weeks left

1093
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 3: to it, and you know, once the class is over,

1094
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:52,599
Speaker 3: I probably won't see him again, right, Okay? Well, and

1095
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 3: I like, like I said, I.

1096
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 2: Know where you're getting at and I have a response

1097
01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:56,599
Speaker 2: to it.

1098
01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, I'm here and I'm listening.

1099
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:00,720
Speaker 2: You don't want to Okay, you don't want to put

1100
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:01,760
Speaker 2: in the work. You don't want to put in the

1101
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 2: work because Okay, great, I have this healing moment with

1102
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 2: this guy. But then it's over right. You only have

1103
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 2: five weeks left. So what's the point of Yeah, Yeah,

1104
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 2: it's not about this particular iteration. It's about the inner

1105
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 2: personal skills you develop as a result of this iteration

1106
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:27,759
Speaker 2: that you can then take with you the next time

1107
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 2: you encounter a situation like this, so that I would

1108
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 2: argue it is worth the work if you think about

1109
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 2: it like that.

1110
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 3: Jo that actually that's you know, that's a really positive

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01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:43,760
Speaker 3: way of looking at it. I'm not gonna lie. That's

1112
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:47,120
Speaker 3: an interesting you know, that's a I don't really know

1113
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 3: uh what to say to that, but you know, I

1114
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 3: may need to take advantage of that.

1115
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:55,800
Speaker 2: That's the one thing you could do, because look, I

1116
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 2: want you to get some out of this, because this

1117
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:01,639
Speaker 2: is clearly fucking bothering you. And I'm yeah, because I'm

1118
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 2: a human being and I have lots of things that

1119
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 2: happened to me in my life that pissed me up

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01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 2: that I'm trying to deal with better. Right, you could

1121
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 2: go out word with it, try to learn from this guy,

1122
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:14,639
Speaker 2: try to get to know him better, and then maybe

1123
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 2: you have this weird healing moment where you're like, oh shit,

1124
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:19,800
Speaker 2: all I had to do was talk to this guy

1125
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 2: for five minutes, and then now I know what he's about,

1126
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 2: and now I've learned. Hey, maybe the next time someone

1127
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:27,679
Speaker 2: just pisses me off or I'm getting a bad vibe

1128
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:31,600
Speaker 2: from them, or I think they're fucking idiot, it's just

1129
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 2: like the last time. All I gotta do is talk

1130
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 2: to them for five minutes and my my perspective will change.

1131
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 2: Or you can go inward with it and just decide

1132
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 2: not to let it bother you. I can do both.

1133
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 2: I mean, what do you think about that?

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01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 13: Yeah?

1135
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 3: And you know, I thought it was a whole.

1136
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:50,799
Speaker 2: What do you think about everything that we've talked about

1137
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:53,600
Speaker 2: right now? And do you feel like you do you

1138
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 2: feel inclined to action upon it?

1139
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 3: I think he's bring up. I actually do feel some action,

1140
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 3: you know. I'm not why before this I would like,

1141
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 3: I was like, you know, may as well, I have

1142
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 3: nothing to do tonight, and I you were streaming, and

1143
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:09,760
Speaker 3: I was like, may as well get another perspective into it,

1144
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 3: because you already know, you know, I'm ranked into like

1145
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 3: my friends or whatever, and they're all like, yo, this

1146
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 3: guy sounds like, you know, annoying whatever, so and so forth.

1147
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 3: And I kind of find another perspective, like, you know,

1148
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:23,680
Speaker 3: a non biased perspective, you know what I mean. So

1149
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 3: I definitely you know, course of action, you know, whatever

1150
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:29,840
Speaker 3: that is. I got to figure that out. But like

1151
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 3: I said, I I have no clue why I even

1152
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 3: like let it bother you.

1153
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 2: Hm, well, listen, Jeremy, thank you for calling, and uh,

1154
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 2: you know, hit us back, hit us back, let us

1155
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 2: know if you do decide to I don't want to

1156
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:47,760
Speaker 2: use the word confront, but let's know, if you just

1157
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 2: have to talk to this guy and sort of see

1158
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 2: what's going on, yeah, okay, matter from a curious perspective,

1159
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 2: not a perspective of anger, and see what happens.

1160
01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:58,800
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, I appreciate it.

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01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:01,360
Speaker 2: Thank you, of course, thank you for calling. Jeremy.

1162
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:03,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have a good one.

1163
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:13,479
Speaker 2: Hello, Matt, Hello, what's going on with you?

1164
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 4: Not much? Gek with the much?

1165
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 10: What's going on with you?

1166
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:27,799
Speaker 2: I can't think of a fifth way to answer that question.

1167
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 2: It says here, you want to know my thoughts on circumcision,

1168
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 2: and that's not true. You want to tell me your

1169
01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:37,040
Speaker 2: thoughts on circumcision. That's what a lot of people do

1170
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 2: is they'll say what do you think about this? So

1171
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:42,679
Speaker 2: that after they're done talking, they can say what they think.

1172
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:43,479
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna.

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01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:48,639
Speaker 3: Skip to that, all right, That's that's a fair.

1174
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:48,840
Speaker 4: Way to go.

1175
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 2: Am I was I correct? Or Am I being a dick?

1176
01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 4: I mean, i'd say you.

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01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 2: Can say if I'm being if I'm being a dick,

1178
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:01,200
Speaker 2: I want you to say, lie, well, you're being kind

1179
01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:02,840
Speaker 2: of a dick right now, and you need to calm down.

1180
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:07,320
Speaker 4: All right lyle, you do need to calm down just

1181
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:07,880
Speaker 4: a little bit.

1182
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 2: Am I being a dick?

1183
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 6: To say?

1184
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 2: I want you to tell me I'm being a dick

1185
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 2: if you think I'm being a dick?

1186
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:16,719
Speaker 4: When you tell me, well, if I'm going to be specific,

1187
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:19,400
Speaker 4: you're being a You're being an uncircumcised dick.

1188
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 2: Says here, you have regular conversations with your friends about this,

1189
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 2: and you think it's very odd that people decide to

1190
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 2: do this. Why do you think it is odd that

1191
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:37,799
Speaker 2: people get circumcised, and I don't.

1192
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:41,760
Speaker 4: Think it's odd that people get circumcised, per se. I

1193
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:47,760
Speaker 4: think it's odd that people look at infant's penis and

1194
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 4: decide to go ahead and snip it.

1195
01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 1: Up a little bit.

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01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:55,560
Speaker 2: You know that people circumcised.

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01:13:57,880 --> 01:13:59,000
Speaker 4: Yes, exactly?

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01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:02,600
Speaker 2: Are you Jewish?

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01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 3: No? I am not.

1200
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:08,720
Speaker 2: Well I'm Jewish and I have been circumcised. And you

1201
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:14,960
Speaker 2: know what, Matt, I completely and utterly agree with you.

1202
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 2: I have no idea why people do this.

1203
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:23,640
Speaker 4: Thank you, Thank you get I think you might be

1204
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:26,720
Speaker 4: the first person who I mean, not even the like

1205
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 4: religion aside. I think you're the first person to agree

1206
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 4: with me in in general.

1207
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 2: Well, okay, your other friends, what do they tell you

1208
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 2: when they tell you that you're wrong? What are their arguments?

1209
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 4: They're like, have you it's dirty, it's gross, it's this,

1210
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:49,639
Speaker 4: that and the other. And I'm like, I'm not. I'm

1211
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:52,320
Speaker 4: not talking about that. You know. I like I like

1212
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:55,760
Speaker 4: my penis. I'm comfortable with that, you know, but I

1213
01:14:55,760 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 4: don't like that I didn't get to decide on out

1214
01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:03,880
Speaker 4: it ended up looking, you know, like I never got to.

1215
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 4: If my penis was uncircumcised, I would keep it clean,

1216
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 4: you know, if if you've seen an uncircumcised penis, that's thirty.

1217
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:12,920
Speaker 4: That's their fault for not keeping it clean.

1218
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 2: You know, I should really do No. I agree, if

1219
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 2: I had to make any amendment to the Jewish religion,

1220
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:23,760
Speaker 2: I would perform the circumcision on the same day as

1221
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:26,519
Speaker 2: the bar mitzvah, because when you're thirteen, you have a

1222
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:34,960
Speaker 2: little bit more conscious conscious of a choice there. But

1223
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:37,720
Speaker 2: then again, if they did that, I think if they

1224
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:41,680
Speaker 2: did that and they told every bar mitzvah bar mitzvah,

1225
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:44,960
Speaker 2: the thirteen year old boy whether or not they want

1226
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 2: to chop off the diaper the penis, I have to

1227
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:50,360
Speaker 2: gander that about one hundred percent would say no.

1228
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:55,120
Speaker 4: I would also agree with that. I'm sure that the

1229
01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:59,120
Speaker 4: surgery itself is probably a lot more painful as the

1230
01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:01,519
Speaker 4: older you get, you know, I definitely wouldn't get it

1231
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:04,360
Speaker 4: as a as a twenty five year old. Now, you

1232
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 4: know it's that would be painful, you know. So I

1233
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 4: don't know, it's it's just a weird concept to me.

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01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:14,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now, I always think about this. You know, what

1235
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:15,599
Speaker 2: a moil is?

1236
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:18,400
Speaker 3: No?

1237
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:19,760
Speaker 4: What a what's that?

1238
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 2: A moil is a guy his only that's his job,

1239
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:31,519
Speaker 2: all right, His profession. His life's work is to chop

1240
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:33,559
Speaker 2: off the tip of baby's penises.

1241
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:40,480
Speaker 4: Wow, specifically baby penises, not adult to adolescent penises.

1242
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:43,680
Speaker 2: I actually, dude, I've never thought about that. Have there

1243
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:52,400
Speaker 2: been guys who get circumcised in adulthood? Do people have? Absolutely? Really?

1244
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 4: People are, Yeah, people would be. I mean, like, I

1245
01:16:56,479 --> 01:17:00,200
Speaker 4: don't personally know, but I'm I can only imagine that

1246
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:03,800
Speaker 4: there are some self conscious people out there that would

1247
01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 4: go to the lengths of circumcising at a later date,

1248
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:11,920
Speaker 4: you know, because they're not they're self conscious or whatever

1249
01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 4: the case may be. May maybe it's uncomfortable, maybe it's

1250
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:16,599
Speaker 4: a surgical Maybe maybe it's a medical thing and they

1251
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:20,639
Speaker 4: have to do it, which is also a whole other

1252
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:22,800
Speaker 4: thing too. I haven't even looked into that. Whether or

1253
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:25,800
Speaker 4: not that's like a it's a probably. I don't know

1254
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 4: whether it's probably.

1255
01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:28,599
Speaker 2: I'll tell you. I'll tell you this though. I'll tell

1256
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 2: you this. I'm pretty sure that circumcision does make your

1257
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:36,439
Speaker 2: penis look bigger. Maybe that is part of the the

1258
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:40,439
Speaker 2: the Jewish thing. Maybe I didn't I didn't pay a

1259
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:42,719
Speaker 2: lot of attention in Hebrews school. But maybe we value

1260
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:45,280
Speaker 2: large penises in the tower or something.

1261
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:50,120
Speaker 4: You see. That's what I think is, that's what That's

1262
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:52,280
Speaker 4: what the image that's going on in my head right

1263
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 4: is that the whoever is in charge of all right,

1264
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:59,080
Speaker 4: I'm you got to you gotta snip that baby's penis.

1265
01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:02,639
Speaker 4: Why why did they have to see that baby's penis?

1266
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:04,719
Speaker 4: You know who gave to get that guy.

1267
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:06,880
Speaker 2: The key to.

1268
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:09,840
Speaker 4: Who put him in charge?

1269
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:13,720
Speaker 2: I always thought when I first started watching porn, when

1270
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:17,639
Speaker 2: I was like, uh, what, maybe there was a lot

1271
01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 2: of fourteen or something like that. It wasn't until then

1272
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 2: I had never seen guy. I had never all the

1273
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 2: like guy's dicks that I had seen up until then

1274
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:29,720
Speaker 2: were like, you know, my dad and like I went

1275
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 2: to Jewish summer camp, so all all those you know,

1276
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:33,680
Speaker 2: we would all see each other's dicks, like in the

1277
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:36,440
Speaker 2: showers or whatever, and all those guys dicks were circumcised.

1278
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:38,800
Speaker 2: So when I was so all the dicks I ever

1279
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:43,920
Speaker 2: saw growing up before porn were circumcised dicks. And then

1280
01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 2: at fourteen, I saw a guy on the internet, a

1281
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 2: guy who's fucking foreskin covered the entirety of his penis,

1282
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:53,760
Speaker 2: and I was like, what's God? And I thought he

1283
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:55,599
Speaker 2: had some sort of disease. I was like, what's going

1284
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:59,600
Speaker 2: on with this guy? So I always thought that circumcision

1285
01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 2: was the default. I didn't know that, like there was

1286
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:06,519
Speaker 2: something missing from all the penises that I have seen

1287
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 2: and including my own.

1288
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:13,439
Speaker 4: On the contrary to that, I will say, you know,

1289
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 4: I'm just thinking of this now. I've never really growing up,

1290
01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:21,400
Speaker 4: I never really experienced seeing other people's penises. I only

1291
01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:24,599
Speaker 4: saw my own penus, you know, So maybe that has

1292
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:28,080
Speaker 4: something to do with maybe they're like, oh, you're gonna

1293
01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 4: see other people's penises. Yeah, they wanted to look better,

1294
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:33,599
Speaker 4: you know, to thinking ahead.

1295
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:37,000
Speaker 2: Well, Matt, I hope that we find an answer to

1296
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 2: this question. I mean we could probably google this. If

1297
01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 2: you're listening to this, google it and then send an

1298
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:48,280
Speaker 2: email to Lyle Forever and Never at gmail dot com

1299
01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 2: with the answer as to why people get circumcised, and

1300
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 2: for the love of God, do not include any pictures. Matt.

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01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:58,479
Speaker 2: Thank you for calling, have a good rest of the night.

1302
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:02,400
Speaker 4: Thank you for answering gag you too. Thank you for

1303
01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 4: having me ne.

1304
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:07,000
Speaker 11: Real be Ken goes on the line taking your phone

1305
01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 11: calls every night.

1306
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 9: Never be kept ghost doing his eight.

1307
01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:14,479
Speaker 1: He's teaching you about your life, Money's not ready. An

1308
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:15,040
Speaker 1: expert