1 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: Ding Ding, I'll do it again, Diggity ding Ding. The 2 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 1: champ is back be Hop. Part two of the I Am. 3 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 2: Rappaport Stereo podcast with the Alien. 4 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: With Philly's finest ill adelf Bernard Hopkins. So good, so nice. 5 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: We're doing it twice, so nice, We're doing it twice. 6 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: Former middleweight Champion partners at Golden Boy with Oscar de 7 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: la Hoya and so forth and so on. 8 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 2: I love this podcast so much. I love this conversation 9 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 2: so much. Uh. 10 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 1: This is part two with b Hop, the Alien, Miles 11 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: Jordan Ak, the Beach Brothers aka the Dust Brothers. Start 12 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: this puppy office, something real nice. Start this Champion Chip 13 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: podcast off with something real. But most of when we 14 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: start this puppy off with something real funk. This is 15 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 1: the Iron Rapperport Stereo podcast. Is Muhammad Ali. Obviously he 16 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: called himself. He coined the Greatest of all time. Now 17 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: we have the greatest of all time rappers. You have 18 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: the greatest of time baseball player, the greatest of all 19 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: time quarterback is Muhammad Ali. The greatest of all time 20 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,279 Speaker 1: because of what he did in the ring, or because 21 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: of what you just spoke about. Why wouldn't we talk 22 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: about Muhammad Ali. Why when you talk about him, my 23 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: heart still pitter patters when you talk about specifically about that. 24 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 1: Can we even articulate what Muhammad Ali means to you 25 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: and why he's the greatest of all fun First of. 26 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 2: All, I am proud and honored that my mom gave 27 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 2: birth on the same month of Muhammad Ali, days apart, 28 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 2: just to be in the same month. Correct, the goat, 29 00:01:55,120 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 2: the capricorn, the fighter, the hard worker that see bullshit 30 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: when they see it. They might not tell you right away, 31 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 2: but they'll play along with it, like you legit, But 32 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 2: I know you're not, so I gotta protect myself. That's 33 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 2: my protection mechanism. Ali was more than just to me. 34 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 2: Somebody that boxing the ring in the neighborhood in the projects, 35 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 2: twenty fifth in Diamonds still there, North Philly. They ain't 36 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 2: switching that no time soon. That ain't getting. 37 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: Gentrified, no time soon. Right, different subject, different subfing. 38 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 2: We used to box and have We want a where 39 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 2: to right shorts so nobody won't get blood on it. 40 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 2: We wanted to make sure that we emanated and imitated 41 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 2: Ali at any costs. Ali with the trash talking everybody 42 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 2: that I remember in my era, and I'm going back 43 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 2: like seventy years old. We all wanted to be Ali, 44 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 2: to shuffle. As you go into the early teens and 45 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 2: you start hearing this man speak and you start seeing 46 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 2: the things he'd done, you know, in the sixties era, 47 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 2: right seventies still fighting Larry Holmes is one of the 48 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 2: worst beatings. But that encouraged me to see Ali at 49 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 2: that time, the great Muhammad Ali. And I said, the 50 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 2: great Muhamal Ali, which I consider him great terror. Outside 51 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 2: of what he did in the ring, stood up where 52 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: it wasn't fashionable, it wasn't popular, not in boxing, and 53 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 2: you also had basketball players and football players, the Jim Brown, 54 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: who I met many times and we had a lot 55 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 2: of conversations. Guy ric So in La Ali was just different. 56 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 2: Ali was and is in the history one of the 57 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 2: I believe the athletes that will never be forgotten. Ever, 58 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 2: his brand, I mean, I just got some new shirts. 59 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 2: Ali walked past in Florida, walked past the to Us hold. 60 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 2: They got some different Ali prints, some shirts. You know, 61 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 2: his brand went forward quoting you know, being dollars million 62 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 2: dollars quarter being dollars right. So Ali just by that 63 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 2: his name, his daughters, his kids, let Ali who represent 64 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 2: at her era when she was boxing. Ali was just different. 65 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 2: And one thing about Ali, he spoke, never waiver, never 66 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 2: second guess himself, and he went in in most of 67 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 2: the time, did what he needed to do. And that's 68 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 2: why I'm inspired by guys like that who made history. 69 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 2: And again they could be in any other sport. But 70 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: when that stands out to me, of course, because most 71 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 2: people don't go against the green for good reasons. 72 00:04:54,560 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: They don't smoking. Joe Frasier, Philly, Yeah, died with nothing. 73 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: I saw that documentary of him. It crushres me. I 74 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: learned more about his story. You know, obviously I was 75 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 1: a baby when he was with Ali and all that stuff. 76 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: When you see somebody like that from Philly, and you know, 77 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: there's so many stories. It's going back to the boxers 78 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: you know that have gotten fucked and Joe Fraser, and 79 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: the list is. 80 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 2: Just long, long, long, long long, but. 81 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: Just specifically Joe Fraser as a fighter, as a fan 82 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: of fighter, as a Philly person, just give some love 83 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: and perspective on how great of a fighter and what 84 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: Joe Fraser meant to boxing first. 85 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 2: Of all, but he meant to Philadelphia and boxing was 86 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 2: was on the line of Ali in the ring and 87 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 2: also being in the community. You know, Ali obviously different 88 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 2: because Ali stood up for things that Joe was the 89 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 2: opposite of. But they had the same mentality when he 90 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 2: came to the community and the love of the sport. 91 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 2: I met Joe Fridge. I trained in my uncle Artie McLeod, 92 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 2: God Rest of the Soul. He was my mother's brother 93 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 2: who boxed Regional Middle eight and the streets got him, 94 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 2: but he took me. Artie McLeod took me to Borton Glenwood. 95 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 2: The gym is still there. It ain't open. The gym 96 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 2: shell is still there. Still got Joe Fridge's name up 97 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 2: there right that building, that building at Borton Glenwood is 98 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 2: still there. You can zoom it up on the internet. 99 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 2: You'll say it. But Joe Frasier Jim used to be 100 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 2: open for his son Marvis, who boxed, and all the 101 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,679 Speaker 2: pros from Philly used to train there, and the ones 102 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,119 Speaker 2: that didn't live in Phillies to come there for work 103 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 2: work that is boxing, sparring sessions. Jove, it was like 104 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:52,239 Speaker 2: Gleasons in New York right on steroids, right right, That 105 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 2: was the type of the gym in Philly. You come 106 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 2: to Phill Leftia, Joe Fraser's gym, that's where we want 107 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 2: to go. And that's four to five other gyms now disrespect, 108 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 2: but it ain't disrespect. It is what it is. They're 109 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 2: going to Joe Fraser's. I met Joe, been around him family, 110 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 2: Jackie Fraser to the day. I carried a torch to 111 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 2: Joe Fraser and many more that came through there. So 112 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 2: when it was Joe Fraser, then it was Melgic Tayler 113 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 2: eighty four Olympics. That's not forget Melton, that's not Phil 114 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 2: mel mel Meltic Tayler. The Olympic team is one of 115 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 2: my best. Not to get off not to get off 116 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 2: course what I was saying that Joe Fraser just that, 117 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 2: but look at the fruits of that blossom out of that, 118 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 2: Look at the seeds that blossom myself, you know, and 119 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 2: Philp's big box in history, you know, New York was 120 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 2: the rifle like okay, you got you're gonna go up 121 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 2: and then you know, but Philly had and still do 122 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 2: have that that Bouce Sennis who just lost the seeds 123 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 2: and Danny Garcia and my guy you know that's like 124 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: he told, I bought him in, took him. They camp 125 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 2: about eight years, let him get the experience. Rossatto came 126 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 2: under me as a young guy that I usually use 127 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 2: for energy at the NFL spar with non guys pitt 128 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 2: Rosatto win. So Risatto and I built a relationship over 129 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 2: about fifteen years together until his last fight and the 130 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 2: Golden Boy. I told him, job well done, you know 131 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 2: what I mean? Because he did what he wanted to do. 132 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 2: He didn't become champion, a world champion, but at least 133 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 2: he could say that he gave a sincere yes effort 134 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 2: and be people he ain't supposed to be, especially at 135 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 2: this point in is correct. 136 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:46,479 Speaker 1: The heavyweight division, in my opinion, is a fucking mess. 137 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 2: Six three two fifteen. 138 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: Was training the other day because somebody had a mug 139 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: shot and they said they were six three two fifteen. 140 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: The great Muhammad Ali fought in his prime of prime 141 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 1: six three two fifteen, six three two twenty two, twenty five, 142 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: and then great fighter Lennox Lewis came along linx six 143 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: six to forty to fifty. Then these fucking clitch goes 144 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: come along. These are like rock'm sock. The robots, Tyson Fury. 145 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 2: Dyson Fury has proved himself to be way better than 146 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,839 Speaker 2: we talk about a body that will clear only look 147 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 2: at the body and say whether you can fight or not. 148 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 2: We know that ain't the case. No, I'm agreeing with 149 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 2: you. You look at his body, you'd be like, O, what up? 150 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 2: I'm betting with this guy, I mean with the other 151 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:39,839 Speaker 2: shocking correct. This is a good fighter, fundamental sound, relaxed, 152 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:44,839 Speaker 2: relax and he know how to not only physically, uh 153 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 2: move around, good feet movement for big guy. Yes, works 154 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 2: that jab. He he hesitates the mess out of because 155 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 2: he talks to He know how to promote himself in 156 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 2: and out of the ring. And I listen when full 157 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 2: Wilder the first time I was there, I said I'll 158 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 2: never go against him again. I'm gonna say that again. 159 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 2: When he fought Wilder the first time and he got 160 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 2: up and since then, you see what he's been doing. 161 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 2: A championship. He'll beat Hugashuega, who I thought lost the 162 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 2: other night. Yes, right, Ukrainian, I believe he lost them 163 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 2: a night. I agree, right, Joshua, I had our hopes again, 164 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying with Boom boom I go down 165 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 2: Massive Square Garden and see Joshua and this one of 166 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 2: them is person. He's a good guy. It's all right, 167 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 2: But we're not talking about that too. I know what 168 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 2: we're saying in this. I'm telling you that when you 169 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 2: when you've been around this stuff long enough, you know 170 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,839 Speaker 2: who really got it. And it's not talent we're all 171 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 2: talking about. We're talking about is that other two percent 172 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 2: that means everything. That means everything when you get bop 173 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 2: and you get up off the canvas after that was 174 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 2: championship ship, or you fall short of a fight and 175 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 2: you come back and you murder everybody next to the fights, 176 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 2: you got like he's on a terror. This is where 177 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 2: you be like he learned from that. 178 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 1: My question to you as a fan, as a promoter, 179 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: the heavyweight Championship of the World used to be something 180 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: we knew who that person was, you know. It started 181 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: going with Mike to Lenox, who was great English speaking 182 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: although he was British Jamaican. Then we got with the 183 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: clitch Goes who you know they're doing great things. Like 184 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: for me as a fan, I was like, this is 185 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: not what I like to watch man heavyweight division. This 186 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: is Muhammad Ali or bangers like Ernie, and the heavyweight 187 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: division is ruined? 188 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 2: Can it be fixed? And should they make it? 189 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: Yes, it's ruined because to me, it's like there should 190 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: be a cutoff point. It should be super heavyweight division. 191 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: It got fucked up when you started like heavyweight shouldn't 192 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: be Oh you get us? 193 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 2: What is it two twenty and then like three hundred 194 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 2: and seventy pounds or heavier? What the fuck are we 195 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 2: doing here? 196 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: This is when it got out of hand because it'd beiti. 197 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:09,839 Speaker 2: There's no regulations in certain things that really bring integrity 198 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 2: to the sport. 199 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: They seems like we would Muhammad Ali be able to like, yo, 200 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: I don't Muhammedale's Mike Tyson, okay, but when we say 201 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: two twenty Mike Tyson's five what was he six feet? 202 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 2: Mike ain't even saying Mike, Mike and Mike and Mike 203 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 2: about close to five to eleven. 204 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: Maybe Mike and his prime Joe Fraser in front these 205 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: you can't fight a three hundred pound dude. No, no, 206 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 1: but this is where we're at. They can walk in 207 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: there like that or at least close to it. Mike 208 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: in shape was two twenty solid right, and his best shape, 209 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: so he'd cut weight. 210 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 2: But it's gotten. 211 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: I think when they six foot nine, this should be okay, 212 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: Well then. 213 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 2: This is this is a dim It should be super heavyweight, 214 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 2: like you said, is because gods are coming in. It's 215 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 2: an advantage in a disadvantage to the guys coming in 216 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 2: two fifteen. You have Muhammad Ali six three two fifteen. 217 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 2: That's a beautiful fighting that's a brutier fighting weight, and 218 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 2: that that's the weight that you know, the guy in 219 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 2: shape and he's a heavyweight based on the weight divisions, and. 220 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: It's still athletic. It's a different That's what really. I 221 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: think that's when things got really fucked up. And it's 222 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: not disrespectful. They were just they were just big doing it. 223 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: Didn't regulate the weight his should have done it. 224 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:23,599 Speaker 2: Then bingo. 225 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: Is Jake Paul and what he's doing good for boxing 226 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: or bad for boxing? 227 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 2: I don't think it's either. I'm not gonna give your 228 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 2: political answer, which I just did, but I am a 229 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 2: follow up on that. It's not neither j Paul fight 230 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 2: style and what he's doing to me is entertainment, not boxing. 231 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 2: It's not even UFC of course, because they can't kate. 232 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 2: They can't grab, they can't pit in the hole. This 233 00:13:55,360 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 2: is entertainment. This is no different than a our fight 234 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 2: somewhere and the worst part of our Brooklyn if it's 235 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 2: still left or anywhere else in Philadelphia, North Philly or 236 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:14,599 Speaker 2: South Philly here too. Let me tell you it's entertainment 237 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 2: because J. Paul not hating him, just being honest. I've 238 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 2: been asked this. J Paul is a entertainer who found something, 239 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 2: capitalized on it, and started some confusion amongst the people 240 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 2: that want to be confused for no reason. Because boxing. 241 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 2: We know what boxing is. I hope you know what 242 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 2: they bring in how boxing has went through a lot 243 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 2: of transition in eighty two one hundred years with J. 244 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 2: Paul is doing as an entertainer before boxing. He attached 245 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 2: both of them, which is a brilliant business move of entertainment. 246 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 2: You make a lot of money. You see what they're 247 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 2: paying them. But it's not boxing. Why you think he 248 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 2: haven't fought nobody that's really in any contention weight class 249 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 2: that's noticed around the world. 250 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: Listen, I have been one of the biggest advocates of 251 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: This is a bunch of bullshit. 252 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 2: I'm just a fan. It's entertainment there to look at 253 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 2: the entertainment. It's entertainment. But when you say it's boxing, 254 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 2: I got a disagree. 255 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: I don't care if it's in the movies Rocky Boboa, 256 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:36,479 Speaker 1: I don't care if it's UFC, which I respect these motherfuckers. 257 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 2: I don't care if it's Pip Squeaks, seven year olds 258 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 2: or you guys, whether it was you, whether it was. 259 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: Jake Lamada, Sugar, Ray, Leonard Muhammad, Ali, Larry Holmes, Aaron 260 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: pryor anyone who's held a belt over their head. A 261 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: lot of times they cry, and I'm assuming they're crying 262 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: because of the hard work, the dedication, the commitment, the struggle, 263 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: the the everything. 264 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 2: They made it. They made it to have this belt. 265 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 2: I'm champion of the. 266 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: World for me, as a fan of what you guys do, 267 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: of the sport of boxing, even I could say even 268 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: the sport of m M A UFC. To see this 269 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: guy walk around with a belt that he either paid 270 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: for or he made and call him up. 271 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 2: The politics or politics fucking break man, and that that's 272 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 2: the real dagger, Bak, that's the real dagger in boxing. 273 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: If Jake Paul fort Canelo is Canelo gonna beat the 274 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: ship out of him if that ever happens. 275 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 2: Yes, beat the ship out of him. I mean, that's 276 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 2: what is cell because that they don't at they care about, 277 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 2: That's all they care about. At the end of the day, 278 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 2: I see two rounds of Canelo's generous. That's not even 279 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 2: in comparison, But. 280 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: Isn't it like Canelo's kind of like I don't even 281 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: want to acknowledge you because. 282 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 2: I went through this. J Paul's known around the globe. 283 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 2: Canelos known around the globe. That's already promoting. 284 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: Oh, come on, this will be gignormous, this will be 285 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: that'll be ginormous. 286 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 2: Crazy? 287 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 1: Were you disappointed when Floyd who's what is Floyd one 288 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty pounds at his best? How much is 289 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 1: Floyd mayway away at this point in his life one 290 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty ran close to sixty one hundred and sixty. 291 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I wanted him to knock out his fucking brother, 292 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: wasn't it, Larry Lolo Larry Jef? 293 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 2: I don't know what is it? And that Floyd can't 294 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 2: do that, He's not a What do you mean for 295 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 2: the fights when he fought Logan Paul Logan fought him. 296 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 2: I'm thinking I said that with Air fought again entertainment or. 297 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: But it frustrates me because because when we go to 298 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: this sport of boxing and fans of boxing and why 299 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: boxing isn't there? 300 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 2: This hurts it in my in my does it does. 301 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 1: Ert it because people will line up to watch this ship, 302 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: including me, But then guys like you know, like I 303 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: was like some of these fighters like my man and 304 00:17:58,760 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: knew how do you say his name? 305 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 2: And now the good fight now yeah yeah, I mean 306 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 2: we don't even know what. 307 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: I'm saying his last name because it's but it's like 308 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: for me because nobody I'm saying just RePEc. It fucks 309 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: the sport up. And what I loved watching Aaron Pryor 310 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 1: for this is a fight. And now it's like those 311 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: younger people are growing up watching Logan Paul versus Naty 312 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 1: is what I love you the. 313 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 2: Impression this is really real, That's what I'm saying, Man, podcast. 314 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: Quickts. The best fighter you ever actually fought. 315 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 2: Was this this and this boy Jones Jr. Nineteen ninety three, 316 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 2: rf K Stadium, our first championship a tenth uh fell 317 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 2: short by his decision. 318 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: RFK stadium, the best fighter you never got a chance 319 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: to fight. 320 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 2: Who was fighting during your time, James Tony. He had 321 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 2: just moved up to one sixty. I was just for 322 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 2: the vacant title that the IBF made vacant for the 323 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 2: number one and number two contender, and that was with 324 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 2: Roy Jones Jr. I said again, beat me by decision. 325 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: The top five middleweights of all time, not including Bernard 326 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: the Executioner, the Alien Hopkins. Your top five middleweight fighters 327 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: of all time? 328 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 2: Marvin Hagler, Marvelous Marvin Hagler, Sugar, Ray Robinson. I'm gonna 329 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 2: go with call Us the Great Monzone. I'm also gonna 330 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 2: go with he became heavier, But I'm gonna go with 331 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 2: Jake Lamona back in the day, the Bronx Bowl, the 332 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 2: Raging Bowl. Yo, watch some more fights all the time, 333 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 2: Booie Fisher, Fisher old school. He used to give me 334 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 2: those old fights. Tyson up in the castkills. What do 335 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 2: you think Tyson looked like back in the day. No 336 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 2: socks scared the hell out of these guys, all right, 337 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 2: I mean Jake Lamina, So let me go. That's four. Whatever. 338 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 2: Let's go with Ray Leonard not bad Sugar Ray Leonard. See, 339 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 2: because I was fighting between Ray Leonard at forty seven, 340 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 2: because I remember Ray Leonard didn't start had started at 341 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 2: middleweight and at the pros and he left as in middleweight, right, 342 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 2: So I'm trying to like but Ray Leonard deserved to 343 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 2: be because he made history, Yeah in that middleweight division. Yes, 344 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 2: so Ray Leonard's in there. 345 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 1: Who are outside of the guys you just named and 346 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: excluding the great Muhammad Ali? Who are And again, I 347 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: know you could list fifty off the top, but you're 348 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: your top five favorite fighters you've ever watched, loved. 349 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 2: I got thing give me Muhammad Ali, Sugar, Ay Robinson, Marvis, 350 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 2: Marvin Hagler, Benny Kid Perett also very very very the 351 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 2: best jab in boxing. Eastern Assassin Larry Holmes underrated black Well. 352 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 2: I just I was his whole thing was fucked up 353 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 2: for what that? It wasn't his fault. They should have 354 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 2: stopped down all he fight. He got punished for that. No, 355 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 2: everyone hates popular popularity. He got hated for that, hated 356 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 2: that the Eastern Assassin was. And I know people are 357 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 2: gonna see this be like yo yo, it's not a 358 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 2: bad look, but they're gonna be like he throw over somebody. Nah. 359 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 2: Larry Holmes had a jab that will go in the 360 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 2: front and be back of it break like his jab was. 361 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 2: He had the best Hayway jab to the day. Far 362 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 2: as uncle. I don't know no one right now that 363 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 2: has a better job than when Larry Holmes. 364 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: We talked about Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder. Can you teach 365 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: an old fighter new tricks? Deontay Wilder with all that power, 366 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 1: I felt like if he had some boxing skills, can 367 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 1: you teach you? 368 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 2: No? Why not? It just happens. You could teach them 369 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 2: for that minute. But when the actions they compete in 370 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 2: the gym all the time, they've been in gym all time, 371 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 2: when fight breakout, they're going to go back to who 372 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 2: they are because and you must believe who they are. 373 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 2: They're telling you when they have to go to the trenches, 374 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,959 Speaker 2: you know, get in the trenches and get to where 375 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 2: they've been successful. I don't care what age is, especially 376 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 2: if they older, they're going to go back to it. 377 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 2: I don't where they at And that's where it stops. 378 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 2: Where you cannot teach old dog new tricks. What's Bernard? 379 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 2: This is my last question. 380 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 1: What's the best pun that Bernard Hopkins ever threw left hook. 381 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,360 Speaker 2: I'm pulling all the weight that way with your chin 382 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 2: on the end of that left hand. It wasn't the 383 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 2: left hook. Do you hit Oscar? Was that a left 384 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 2: That was the left to the kidney, well liver, so 385 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 2: it can come up or down. 386 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: So but no, But what was the single greatest punch 387 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 1: you actually threw in a fight? 388 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 2: Would it be that fight with that? It would be 389 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 2: that fight. It will be one fight. Yeah. And I 390 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 2: also threw a counter right hand with Tito. It was 391 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 2: one shot. I counted. Tito threw a left holk and 392 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 2: I counted it pull back, not on my head up, 393 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 2: but I pulled, pulled back like and I threw the 394 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 2: right hook at the same time he missed. I connected. 395 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 2: That was the end of that. And the punches you 396 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 2: don't see, it's always the ones they get you, you know, 397 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 2: the ones you don't see when the lights you walk 398 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 2: in the license shut off. The next thing, you're hitting 399 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 2: the refrigerator like this, like a punch. Like the punches 400 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 2: that get you, it's the one you don't see. I mean, 401 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 2: you've been watching I remember watching a fight and the 402 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 2: guy's telling them this coach, I get in the next 403 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 2: round and he's actually putting an ice bag on him 404 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 2: in the corner, saying, hey, the fight's over. Right. It's 405 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 2: like walking into a room and somebody hit the Switzerland, 406 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 2: the punches that you're not prepared for, like you know 407 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 2: it's coming because you got to hit the round before 408 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 2: and you're like, okay, you can tense up for that. 409 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 2: You still make it hurt, but the once and you 410 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 2: just sleep. They just scary ones, and that's when you think, yo, 411 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 2: we're going out for the next fight. That's when you 412 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 2: think you're going on. That's when they start asking you 413 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 2: where are you? Where are you? And you're like, I'm 414 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 2: in Sacramento. Like now you're in Atlantic City, my man. Exactly. 415 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, you're in the bullwalk of 416 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 2: Atlantic City. You're not even in the You're in a 417 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 2: bullwalk Atlantic City. That's scary shit to exactly exactly the. 418 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 1: Great Bernard happens. We didn't, you know, I'm so god weak. 419 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 1: I mean, I know it's so fascinating, you know, like prison, jail, 420 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 1: fighting and general we didn't talk about any of that. 421 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: I love your story, I love your discipline, I love 422 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: your evolution. 423 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 2: I wish you nothing but the best. Bernard Hawkins, the. 424 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: Alien, the executioner, the businessman, the good eater. 425 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 2: Yes, it's a lifestyle. Remember it's a lifestyle. 426 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: I know. 427 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 2: It's not even a diet guy. Died is the biggest hustle, right, 428 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 2: But then again, died is the biggest hustle because you 429 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 2: see when this lifestyle, what is your lifestyle? 430 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 1: Okay, well you're not asking them, I'm going to answer you. 431 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: You know, sometimes, Bernard, my lifestyle is sometimes my goddamn lifestyle. 432 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 2: And feel like I'm met. 433 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,959 Speaker 1: Like a got you no fucking donuts, Bernard. What it 434 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: is is it could be either a game or it 435 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 1: could be you know, I love my reality reality and 436 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: I'm watching this ship and my wife is no help. 437 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: My wife, though she works. 438 00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 2: Out, she's trying to you motivation. We're eating that fucking 439 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 2: chocolate bars right now. 440 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: That's so when you see the long the lifestyle, sometimes 441 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: the lifestyle is part of Sometimes it's part of my lifestyle. 442 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 2: But I get what you're saying. Good chocolate is good chocolate, 443 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 2: and it's bad chocolate. Stop going for the bad. 444 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 1: But it's not the good chocolate. It is not the 445 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: bad chocolate. If you're eating four bars. 446 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 2: That that's that's where you have to have this. 447 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 1: When you're seeing the diet, it's just like just it 448 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: should just this should. 449 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 2: Just I only use the word diet. It's a lifestyle. 450 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 2: What is your lifestyle. That's your lifestyle. And again, it 451 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 2: ain't gonna happen. It ain't gonna happen overnight. You gotta like, 452 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 2: you gotta look at the self as you stepping away 453 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 2: from you know it's not good for you to what's 454 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 2: good for you. And let me tell you, you're gonna feel better. 455 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 2: I know you're gonna know you're gonna perform better. You 456 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 2: know what I mean. Yes, so all these things focus 457 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 2: and you just feel good that fucking jump rope exactly. 458 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 2: Just don't get out of hand and start doing this 459 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 2: and swinging punches at somebody that's a real fighter. Then 460 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 2: you realize that, you know, I just want to I 461 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,360 Speaker 2: just want to live healthy. I just want to live healthy. 462 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 2: I just want to be healthy. I want to live healthy. 463 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 2: And move on. 464 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: I'm going to get a bag of a heavy bag 465 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: of my I don't want to have a heavy bag already, 466 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: I got one in my garage. 467 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 2: I keep a heavy bag still hit. Yeah, you gotta hit. I. 468 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 2: I just don't go in the gym. I don't box. 469 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 2: I don't put dubs on in box with people and 470 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 2: bitty here and still like move around because I have 471 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 2: it right in my house. I go to my home 472 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 2: boom and mess around and just say get the I 473 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 2: just want to look good in my suits. Now you 474 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 2: look good. You gotta look good in your suits. Because 475 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 2: if I look good in my suits, I don't have 476 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,479 Speaker 2: to get them taken in. I don't have to go 477 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 2: spend money to get new suits. So not only I'm thirty, correct? 478 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 2: Do you work with fighters at all? No? I don't 479 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 2: have a patience. What if some of you, though I 480 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 2: give advice, they're the gym, whether it's Golden Boy non 481 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 2: Golden boy, fighters to me all the time like they 482 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 2: should like, people come to you for advice for things 483 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 2: that they figure you understand or they know you understand. 484 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 2: So I give them that. That's my duty. 485 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: But it would you physical advice or just like yo, 486 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: what I'm throwing. Would you go to the gym and. 487 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 2: You see the energy I gott. You think I'm gonna 488 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 2: sit there and just talk. I gotta show them. I 489 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 2: don't go to the gym. I show them right there, 490 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 2: suit on those suit shirt slacks. If we walk out 491 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 2: of here and right here in New York on a payment. 492 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,239 Speaker 2: That's why I say him and I show me. I 493 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 2: would say, look, keep that chin down. This is where 494 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 2: the nerves at. Look from here to hear. You're vulnerable. 495 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 2: I don't care who you are. Some people can take 496 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 2: a better shot, but this is where the nerves at. 497 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 2: Of course, up here at your temple or nerves too, 498 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 2: nerves nerves. Keep that tuck in a shell like a turtle. 499 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 2: I look good, you look good. I like a damn 500 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 2: mug shots. But but but look, you gotta keep that 501 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 2: chin down. Their hands here and always be prepared to 502 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 2: run to counter. How to put yourself in a position 503 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 2: to counter in real life? Run? Oh yeah, if you 504 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 2: can't ask, you got to run before you're getting asked. Leave. 505 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: My problem with running it, Bernard, is that I'm sorry 506 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: you're asking me that with a straight face. 507 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 2: Could I don't seem you good runner? I know, so 508 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 2: that that's the problem. 509 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: I feel like if I ran from somebody that was 510 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: trying to beat me up, they would be so insulted 511 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: that I was trying to run that they would. 512 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 2: Because like, it doesn't take much to catch me, right, 513 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 2: I mean they would I think that would you go? 514 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: No, I think they would chase me down and they 515 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: would just have to trot, and then that they would 516 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: beat me up for trying to run away. 517 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 2: Trying? 518 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: Do you think this is gonna work? That they would 519 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: take it as an insult? 520 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 2: You didn't even get a half a block and you 521 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 2: running your sweat like. 522 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: Slow, Bernard, so fucking slow. But I've always been slow. 523 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: Here's what I'm gonna end this on. And you could 524 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: appreciate that I never lost a step. 525 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 2: Because I never had it. 526 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: I am rap Port Stereo Podcast with the Champion, Bernard Hopkins, 527 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: B hop the Alien, the Businessman, the execution. Yes, sir, 528 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: I'm done. I want to thank Bernard Hopkins for giving 529 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: me the time, giving me the perspective, giving me all 530 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: the insight, the humor, the shit talking for a great 531 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: two part I am a Rapoport World Championship Podcast. 532 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 2: Two parts. 533 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: Tell a friend to tell a friend, Miles Jordan Ak, 534 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: the Bleach Brothers, ding Ding, Take me every with something 535 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: real nice, Take me out of here with something real loud, 536 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: But most importantly, end this iron Rappaport Stereo podcast with 537 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 1: something real funky. Thank you so much Bernard Hopkins for 538 00:30:51,840 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: joining me and again taking the time I'm out. 539 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 2: He love