Speaker 1: Have either of you watched Age of Disclosure?
Speaker 2: What No, I've never even heard of it, So what
Speaker 2: is it?
Speaker 1: It is a documentary okay about how and you're gonna
Speaker 1: be like, come on, how since the nineteen forties the
Speaker 1: government has absolutely has alien spacecraft and the bodies. Come on,
Speaker 1: I see, dude, the entire documentary. I think it just
Speaker 1: won Southby or Sunday.
Speaker 3: Documentary the same way that there's like the documentaries about
Speaker 3: alien civilizations building the pyramid.
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 4: Who's making this documentary.
Speaker 1: Everybody that was interviewed with senators or congressmen or people
Speaker 1: that work for the CIA or the DA. And I'm
Speaker 1: not talking about like, oh I was a senator it was.
Speaker 1: It's like Marco Rubio and all people that are currently
Speaker 1: senators or national security advisors go watch the documentary. It
Speaker 1: just won like all of your favorite festivals. Writer, It's
Speaker 1: like the biggest documentary, one of the biggest documentaries in
Speaker 1: the world that was done by Oh I forget but
Speaker 1: Sue and I watched it.
Speaker 4: So X files is real.
Speaker 1: Well what there? So they've now had so starting in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, they've now had full congressional hearings on
Speaker 1: the Hill. Yeah, I remember about all of this stuff
Speaker 1: going on, and now it's one of the one of
Speaker 1: the few completely and totally bipartisan things going on. So
Speaker 1: they've released all the footage of the fact that apparently
Speaker 1: over the last especially five or ten years, all of
Speaker 1: these pilots from the Air Force, from the Navy have
Speaker 1: been following these these specific crafts that have technology that
Speaker 1: we can't possibly under stand. And so the government that
Speaker 1: the way that they came at it is by going, Okay,
Speaker 1: let's say it isn't aliens. Let's say it's something we
Speaker 1: have or something another chinment has. Yeah, whatever, it's still
Speaker 1: a serious national security threat that there's stuff flying over
Speaker 1: our air bases and we have to figure out what
Speaker 1: it is, which led to this thing called the legend.
Speaker 1: You have to watch this thing because I'm one of
Speaker 1: those people. I fully believe there are alien spieces out there.
Speaker 1: I don't know if we've been visited. And then I
Speaker 1: finished watching this, I'm like, oh, yeah, no, all this
Speaker 1: is all real. And everybody's saying within the next year
Speaker 1: or two, the president or somebody major, while not giving
Speaker 1: us told all the information, will come out and say yes,
Speaker 1: we have aliens based craft and yes we have been
Speaker 1: visited by another alien. They're like, we're within twelve months
Speaker 1: of somebody like literally taking the microphone the President of
Speaker 1: United States saying, yes, we have the technology, we have
Speaker 1: the crafts from other planets, we have been visited.
Speaker 3: Because none actually been said at this point, it's all
Speaker 3: just like there are government investigations looking into this exactly.
Speaker 1: Actually, So they've changed it, obviously, and one of the
Speaker 1: smartest things they did was rebranded it, which is what
Speaker 1: everybody does. So they're no longer UFOs, which everybody's like conjures,
Speaker 1: tinfoil hats and all the kind they're UAPs, which is
Speaker 1: unidentified aerial phenomenon. And there's again interviewing like Harry Reid
Speaker 1: and leaders of the Senate and like the House are
Speaker 1: of Services Committee going I can't tell you exactly the
Speaker 1: information I have, but let's just say I've actually seen
Speaker 1: the wreckage and the bodies, and these are people that
Speaker 1: are like massive people in the Senate and Congress. It's crazy.
Speaker 2: Is it scary? Is a scary? Because like it.
Speaker 1: Depends on how you think about it. So one of
Speaker 1: the things they talk about, which apparently and here's the
Speaker 1: other thing. They're like, look, I know you might not
Speaker 1: believe this one camera, but it's if this aircraft, this craft,
Speaker 1: whatever it is, this unidentified flying object is excuse it's
Speaker 1: a UAP UAP exactly. Is caught by one radar system,
Speaker 1: then it's caught by ten radar systems. It's not like
Speaker 1: it was found on one thing. It's like we can
Speaker 1: track it by a satellite, we can track it by this.
Speaker 1: And so they're interviewing people going like, oh no, it
Speaker 1: went from and they're sitting there talking about this under
Speaker 1: oath in front of Congress, where they're like, oh no,
Speaker 1: I was sitting there in my aircraft. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: a Navy pilot. I have been for thirty five years.
Speaker 1: It hovered in front of us an entire squadron for
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes, and then shot up eighty thousand feet instantaneously.
Speaker 1: It's like he's like, there's nothing that we have that
Speaker 1: is anything like this. It's crazy. And so what they're
Speaker 1: talking about is it's actually the Defense Department and the
Speaker 1: defense contractors that are trying to stop everybody from finding
Speaker 1: out what it is, because they're not just crashing here,
Speaker 1: but they're crashing in China and they're crashing in Russia.
Speaker 1: So there's an arms race that we don't know about
Speaker 1: of collecting these spacecraft and reverse engineering their technology.
Speaker 4: I'm just getting used to AI.
Speaker 1: AI is going to have nothing, and they're saying, dude,
Speaker 1: watch this documentary. It was Sue and I were sitting
Speaker 1: there like, so, I'd heard about it, and because apparently
Speaker 1: one of the other things was the Fableman's was supposed
Speaker 1: to be Steven Spielberg's last big movie, and he watched
Speaker 1: this documentary and is coming out of retirement to do
Speaker 1: a film based on the guy the whole thing is about.
Speaker 1: So it's where we're sitting there watching. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I heard about this thing. It won all these awards
Speaker 1: that I think south By and it won like a
Speaker 1: Sundance Award like one, all this stuff. It's like, let's
Speaker 1: watch it. It's about aliens, and neither of us spoke
Speaker 1: for ninety minutes. We sat there with our jaws open,
Speaker 1: like this can't be real, This can't be real. And
Speaker 1: it's starting with again Senator Harry Reid and all the
Speaker 1: people that are the heads of Congress and the Senate
Speaker 1: going like, oh yeah, this is, Oh, this is real,
Speaker 1: this is all real.
Speaker 5: I sure, I believe it, but like, why is I
Speaker 5: don't know why it's such a I don't know why.
Speaker 2: It's such a bit just because it's never been said before,
Speaker 2: because it's like, okay, cool, it's.
Speaker 1: Never been well they're talking about so one of the things,
Speaker 1: this is one of the things they interestingly talk about
Speaker 1: in the documentary, is kind of like why not just
Speaker 1: tell everybody? Yeah, And one of the guys is like,
Speaker 1: are you kidding? I was getting stopped by people in
Speaker 1: the Pentagon. He goes high officials in the Pentagon that
Speaker 1: were telling me that just saying there were aliens out
Speaker 1: there was the equivalent saying there were that it's against
Speaker 1: Christianity and they were the looking for the devils and demons.
Speaker 1: He's like, these are top generals telling me. I was
Speaker 1: I was fine, I'm trying to find demons. He's like,
Speaker 1: there's people that wouldn't be able to handle the fact
Speaker 1: that we're not alone and there's other species around. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was you guys have to watch this thing.
Speaker 6: It is.
Speaker 1: It's so it was one of the crazies we just finished.
Speaker 1: You were like, I'm going to bed. I don't want to.
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk anymore. I'm scared. I'm going
Speaker 1: to bed. It was crazy. Yeah, Interest Age of Disclosure.
Speaker 1: It is so worth the watch because youve for Tom DeLong, Yes, exactly,
Speaker 1: it's so true. Blink one eight two is right the
Speaker 1: entire time, Tom DeLong, just the one just one, blink
Speaker 1: one was right the entire time. Eighty two still just
Speaker 1: non believers. But this was one of those things. Do
Speaker 1: you ever watch a documentary where we're like, oh, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: everything they just said makes sense that that was this
Speaker 1: documentary And I'm not one of those guys. I'm not
Speaker 1: yes aliens. It was like, Okay, I guess I'll watch this.
Speaker 1: It was insane. You guys have to watch what's age
Speaker 1: of Age of Disclosure? And it is just it was.
Speaker 1: It was also just a beautifully done documentary. It was
Speaker 1: very pretty to watch, but it was the all the technology,
Speaker 1: it's all there, and they really it's all the government
Speaker 1: is releasing all this stuff. So there's footage of these
Speaker 1: crafts and they're going straight from space through our atmosphere
Speaker 1: then right into the ocean without ever being like, without stopping,
Speaker 1: without having to change anything. They're they're just going it's nuts.
Speaker 1: It's nuts. I can't even describe it.
Speaker 4: It's great.
Speaker 5: Oh, we'll check it out. Maybe we'll do a recap.
Speaker 5: Maybe we'll do a recap of age of disclosure. If
Speaker 5: they'll let us get true true.
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Welcome to vaud meets World. I'm Danielle Fischel.
Speaker 4: I'm right or strong, and I know that we're not alone.
Speaker 1: I'm wil Fordell.
Speaker 5: Tomorrow night, December thirteenth, live from Washington, d C. The
Speaker 5: WWE will be holding Saturday night's main event, John Cena's
Speaker 5: final match ever where. The evening's big match will see
Speaker 5: one of the company's all time icons facing the monster
Speaker 5: foreign heel known as Gunther, capping off a year long
Speaker 5: retirement tour from one of, if not the greatest wrestler
Speaker 5: of all time.
Speaker 1: I don't like to stop you, but you're teaching me
Speaker 1: about wrestling, so learning. Isn't this like the ninth last
Speaker 1: thing he's ever done? Fourteen times?
Speaker 5: No, actually he's never gone anywhere, he's never had a
Speaker 5: this is he has, though, had a one year retirement
Speaker 5: send off.
Speaker 1: So he was at the thing you brought me to.
Speaker 5: Yes, and it's and that kick started the this is
Speaker 5: my last year.
Speaker 2: Basically, he came.
Speaker 1: Back as a heel. He came back a baby face,
Speaker 1: a big hellmer with terms, here's the here's the King actor.
Speaker 1: Now be hold on.
Speaker 5: In in the year of the retirement send off, him.
Speaker 1: Being a heel hasn't really worked.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's back to being a good guy because.
Speaker 1: Just no one would buy him, and.
Speaker 2: Now no one wanted it.
Speaker 5: Everyone was like, bro, we love you and and we
Speaker 5: want to love you. And so he's he's he's now
Speaker 5: back to you know, he's back to being a good guy.
Speaker 5: This is the guy who was known universally for having
Speaker 5: done the most Make a Wish visits in the history
Speaker 5: of Make a Wish Foundation. Is the bad guy all
Speaker 5: of a sudden, now you want us to buy you
Speaker 5: as a bad guy. You're too beloved. We love you
Speaker 5: too much. We're not going to turn on you. Even
Speaker 5: though it was a great heel turn for for the
Speaker 5: time that it lasted. But anyway it has been it's
Speaker 5: been one year of a sendoff. But Saturday is the
Speaker 5: final match and then just where won't be able to
Speaker 5: see him?
Speaker 2: It's in Washington, DC.
Speaker 1: Are you now what times you're flight.
Speaker 2: My flight is.
Speaker 5: I'm taking a red eye actually after no, no, god, no,
Speaker 5: I'm actually here's why I'm not going. I went last weekend.
Speaker 5: I went to Survivor Series in San Diego, much.
Speaker 1: Closer and that and John Cena was at that.
Speaker 2: One, and John Cena was there and I got to survive.
Speaker 2: He did not win, but he did survive.
Speaker 1: So, I mean, the chances of him losing his final
Speaker 1: match are probably pretty slim.
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know what's going to happen. I
Speaker 5: actually think he will lose because if he if he
Speaker 5: takes the belt and then goes that's it, I'm done. No,
Speaker 5: I think I think it's like a ninety nine percent
Speaker 5: thing that he's going to lose his last match.
Speaker 2: It's going to be great, though.
Speaker 5: It's you know, he truly is, if not the greatest
Speaker 5: of all time, absolutely up there.
Speaker 1: In the conversation, definitely in.
Speaker 5: The conversation, arguably the greatest wrestler of all time, and
Speaker 5: and so to have this big send off has been
Speaker 5: has been really fun.
Speaker 2: For the last year, well.
Speaker 1: There's only been a few that have jumped out to
Speaker 1: where it did become. I don't know. Yeah, if you
Speaker 1: don't know anything about wrestling, you still know them, correct,
Speaker 1: So he's probably one of ten men or women in
Speaker 1: the whole history of wrestling where everybody knows them even
Speaker 1: if they've never watched wrestling.
Speaker 4: And I really again, Johnson and the Rock, right, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 5: It is funny to me that my kids knew of
Speaker 5: the Rock as, isn't that Dwayne Johnson because they knew.
Speaker 2: Him from Jumanji. They knew him as an exactly exactly.
Speaker 5: They knew him as an actor before they got into wrestling,
Speaker 5: and it was like, that just feels wrong.
Speaker 2: He's the Rock, but you know.
Speaker 4: Her the fantasy?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Santa, you have to, you know, don't all the
Speaker 3: ways are real?
Speaker 1: At least he's really.
Speaker 4: They're asking, man, you cannot tell them, You've got to.
Speaker 4: It's an elf on a shelf for Dwayne john I hope.
Speaker 1: You've told all your kids right from the second you
Speaker 1: brought them to a wrestling match that it's fake and
Speaker 1: there's no fantasy involved. I hope you told them that
Speaker 1: right away, like Ryer would have. This is all unreal.
Speaker 5: Today we are talking to one of the emerging stars
Speaker 5: ready to take John Cena's spot. This Scottish born fan
Speaker 5: favorite turned his campy theme song, a Zoolander esque stare,
Speaker 5: an independent success into a fast pass through the WWE,
Speaker 5: debuting at last year's Royal Rumble and then squaring off
Speaker 5: against Randy Orton at WrestleMania, all before signing an official
Speaker 5: contract with the company. That is an unheard of accomplishment.
Speaker 5: It was an overnight success that took about ten years
Speaker 5: to achieve, and now he is a WWE superstar competing
Speaker 5: in their NXT brand, figuring out his new surroundings and
Speaker 5: getting ready for whatever comes next, even if it's a
Speaker 5: podcast with three former child stars of a show we
Speaker 5: are not sure he's ever even heard of, but either way,
Speaker 5: we have called his name and as a result, he
Speaker 5: is here. Welcome to pod Meets World. Joe Henry. Hello, Hello, Joe,
Speaker 5: thank you so much for joining us. I will have
Speaker 5: you know I live in a massive Joe Hendry household.
Speaker 5: This will be the only time my children are jealous
Speaker 5: of this podcast. They're way more excited than when I
Speaker 5: told him them Punky Brewster was coming on. So it's
Speaker 5: a lot of it's a lot of high praise. I
Speaker 5: have converted will and writer into wrestling believers will for sure.
Speaker 2: Writer is still writers getting into it. He's getting into
Speaker 2: a war.
Speaker 3: There's information, there's so many names, there's so many chants.
Speaker 4: I can't keep it all straight.
Speaker 2: I know there's a lot.
Speaker 4: I've been to a WrestleMania, so you know.
Speaker 2: Exactly which one? Did you go to Vegas? Vegas this
Speaker 2: past year?
Speaker 6: And you don't remember me?
Speaker 4: We were there the first day?
Speaker 2: Yeah, first Jay, we didn't make it to the second day.
Speaker 6: That's okay, I'll let you.
Speaker 1: Ryder also just said that hoping you weren't also there
Speaker 1: the first day because he doesn't remember anybody that was there.
Speaker 6: I think I would have remembered.
Speaker 4: No, I think I would have remembered.
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, he was fighting until you threw him under
Speaker 6: the bus.
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. He had gotten away with it and then.
Speaker 4: Yes, this is what we do.
Speaker 6: We've were moving on, moving on, and you just brought
Speaker 6: it back.
Speaker 5: So you grew up in Scotland. What was the wrestling
Speaker 5: scene like there? What were you exposed to as a kid?
Speaker 6: So you see, grew up in Scotland.
Speaker 7: I lived in Scotland until a couple of months ago.
Speaker 2: Your whole life was in Scotland.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I've been.
Speaker 7: I've been flying back and forth pretty much the entire
Speaker 7: time I moved over here in August. So in Scotland,
Speaker 7: I actually wasn't like a huge wrestling as a young
Speaker 7: kid because I just didn't have it. You needed to
Speaker 7: have like SkyTV or cable, and I didn't have either
Speaker 7: until I was a little bit older, and then I
Speaker 7: kind of saw I remember flicking through the channels and
Speaker 7: in the UK, yeah, I finally got Cartoon Network, and
Speaker 7: Cartoon Network at ten PM would switch channel. So I
Speaker 7: remember I was watching Cartoon Network for some reason. I
Speaker 7: was a play and then I was wrestling and I
Speaker 7: saw this guy Ric Flair, and that was my first
Speaker 7: memory of wrestling. But I didn't become like a super
Speaker 7: fan until I was about fourteen, I would say. And
Speaker 7: that's when I got into wrestling big time through the
Speaker 7: video games. It was playing the video games, and then
Speaker 7: I went from that into actually liking professional wrestling.
Speaker 1: I'm so curious, what were you watching on Cartoon Network?
Speaker 6: Oh man?
Speaker 7: And so many iconic shows I actually remember I used
Speaker 7: to watch. I was one of those kids that just
Speaker 7: used to watch the same thing over and over and
Speaker 7: over and over again, Like I remember I had no
Speaker 7: Cartoon Network.
Speaker 6: I had like.
Speaker 7: A you know, a South Park videotape that I watched
Speaker 7: the same three episodes before stool every day every day.
Speaker 7: But for Cartoon Network I had there was this sedis
Speaker 7: of shorts that they did that were it was. It
Speaker 7: was a series of pilots. So and this Cities on
Speaker 7: Cartoon Network had like the original pilot for Johnny Bravo.
Speaker 7: It actually had the original pilot for Family Guy. Believe
Speaker 7: it or not. There was a lot of big cartoons
Speaker 7: that got their star on Cartoon Network, so that was
Speaker 7: that was some of my favorites. I mean, Tom and
Speaker 7: Jenny's a classic, you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Will does a lot of voiceover, So cartoon cartoons
Speaker 5: in my life, give.
Speaker 6: Me, give me some voiceovers.
Speaker 1: Oh jeez. Well, I was Batman for a long time,
Speaker 1: so Batman was down.
Speaker 7: Here, Terry, which Siesman beyond Batman of the Future.
Speaker 6: Wow, favorites? Sorry, but I ask you a question. No,
Speaker 6: I love it.
Speaker 1: So I was Batman for I was Batman of the
Speaker 1: Future for for a very long time, and then I
Speaker 1: was on a show called Campossible for a long time.
Speaker 1: I'm Lionel on ThunderCats and I've been a huge cartoon
Speaker 1: guy for most of my life.
Speaker 6: I love it.
Speaker 1: I love it so much.
Speaker 6: That's so cool.
Speaker 5: The show you're talking about, Joe was called What a Cartoon?
Speaker 5: That was the end of that series.
Speaker 6: What a Cartoon?
Speaker 1: Yes, awesome?
Speaker 2: So slightly related. Did you get Boy Meets World in Scotland?
Speaker 2: Have you ever seen Boy Meets World?
Speaker 6: So? I hate I hate to say I've never actually
Speaker 6: seen it. I want to be educated. Boy Meets World.
Speaker 1: It's okay, you're you all in the title meets the World.
Speaker 4: That's all you need.
Speaker 2: So funny.
Speaker 5: Okay, you are kind of an uncommon mashup that you
Speaker 5: were also a singer. You were in a band. Are
Speaker 5: you still in a band called Lost in Audio?
Speaker 6: Oh? That's you've done your research there, you plun with
Speaker 6: your research, impress.
Speaker 7: And so that was I was doing music from the
Speaker 7: age of I've a very interesting life. I started doing
Speaker 7: live music because it's like all these things I did
Speaker 7: just somehow. It was all the tools I needed to
Speaker 7: become successful in wrestling. So I started doing judo when
Speaker 7: I was six years old, and then I started doing
Speaker 7: like a Saturday acting class when I was like ten
Speaker 7: or something like that. And I remember an audition came
Speaker 7: up and I was going to go and do the
Speaker 7: audition and they were like, oh yeah, so what musical
Speaker 7: act do you do? And I was like, and then
Speaker 7: I called up my cousin. I was like, let's start
Speaker 7: a band. So I put a band together for to
Speaker 7: do this audition that was originally for an acting thing
Speaker 7: that turned out to be a music thing, and so
Speaker 7: we just decided to run with it. So I was like,
Speaker 7: I was living this double life where I was going
Speaker 7: to be fifteen sixteen years old, not cool in school
Speaker 7: at all. I was like the most uncool person in
Speaker 7: school because I moved school and I didn't really have
Speaker 7: any close friends there. But at night I was like
Speaker 7: playing in like broad clubs till one two.
Speaker 6: In the morning. Wow.
Speaker 7: This band when I was sixteen years old, you know,
Speaker 7: so that was a fun expiece. And and so I've
Speaker 7: been performing live since I was probably, I mean, I
Speaker 7: guess if you include acting and stage shows and stuff, probably,
Speaker 7: I mean like eight.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 1: Wow, Wait, were you were you a musician before you
Speaker 1: decided to start a band? I mean, did you could
Speaker 1: you play an instrument? Or did you just call your
Speaker 1: cousin and go, hey, let's pick up some instruments and
Speaker 1: start a band.
Speaker 2: He's a singer, the last, ter last, God's great.
Speaker 5: I would like to go on record and say that
Speaker 5: you are the best pro wrestling lead singer of a band.
Speaker 2: I just want everyone to know that.
Speaker 5: Okay, that's really just I guess saying you're better than
Speaker 5: Chris Jericho.
Speaker 2: But that's I'm still gonna say it.
Speaker 7: Let me tell you he has got he has got
Speaker 7: some bangers. If you look off that Folsey, they've got
Speaker 7: they do have some amazing tracks.
Speaker 2: Okay, but still I stand by your the greatest to
Speaker 2: do it.
Speaker 6: I appreciate your opinion, but you know, to me, the man's.
Speaker 1: Alleged appreciate what kind of music was it?
Speaker 7: So it was just kind of like just guitar band,
Speaker 7: you know, just kind of It was around the time
Speaker 7: of it was like two thousand and three, two thousand
Speaker 7: and four, when like indie music was just taken over
Speaker 7: in the UK, so you'd get a lot of bands
Speaker 7: like for example, Kings of Leon were huge in the UK,
Speaker 7: big in the US, so their first couple of albums
Speaker 7: were big over here. I mean I was back then.
Speaker 6: I was.
Speaker 7: I'm not saying my band is like this because I
Speaker 7: always find, you know, if you have like I'm trying
Speaker 7: to give an example, but I think that people always
Speaker 7: listen to the more extreme versions of their own music,
Speaker 7: if you know what I mean. So, so for example,
Speaker 7: Blink one eight two would probably listen to some really.
Speaker 6: Obscure punk bands, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7: I like so for me, like I was more sort
Speaker 7: of pop rock, but I was listening to like, you know,
Speaker 7: Queens of the Stone Age and nine inch Nails and
Speaker 7: stuff like that. But in the UK it was around
Speaker 7: the time where indy was just taken over, so so
Speaker 7: many big albums came out, like The Killers came out
Speaker 7: around that time, The Strokes, you had, Kings of Leon,
Speaker 7: you had, you know, Transferred, and and b Lockburry. There
Speaker 7: were so many bands in that indie scene. And even
Speaker 7: though I was always kind of like the opening band,
Speaker 7: I got to play with some pretty big bands when
Speaker 7: I was sixteen seventeen.
Speaker 6: I just you know, it was an awesome experience. Wow.
Speaker 5: You also graduated with a degree in marketing while competing
Speaker 5: and winning national championships and earning your black belt in judo?
Speaker 5: Is there anything you are bad at?
Speaker 6: There's lots of things I'm bad at it, You'll never
Speaker 6: see it. And that's what it's about.
Speaker 7: It's about showcasing your strengths and how did your weaknesses.
Speaker 7: It's really to me, it's about what I would often
Speaker 7: do is that would see a task that had grandeur
Speaker 7: that I felt was achievable. So I'll give you an example,
Speaker 7: Like the reason that shows a business degree is because
Speaker 7: I was like, I know, I'm kind of half checked
Speaker 7: out and I'm doing this music thing and I'm interested
Speaker 7: in other things. What is the right spot for a
Speaker 7: degree where I can get something that is respected but
Speaker 7: it's not going to take up all that time. So
Speaker 7: for example, being I was interested in law, but being
Speaker 7: a lawyer is like totally intensive.
Speaker 6: So I was like, well, like every business is a business.
Speaker 6: Same with amateur wrestling.
Speaker 7: I looked at the field of competition for the heavier
Speaker 7: weight classes and I thought, matter of fact, put on
Speaker 7: a little bit of weight. There's really only like five decent,
Speaker 7: you know, heavyweight wrestlers in the United Kingdom that I
Speaker 7: would need to worry about, So you know, I'm going
Speaker 7: to go into that weight class. So I would often
Speaker 7: look at different things that I could achieve and what
Speaker 7: would be the most efficient path to victory, and I would.
Speaker 6: Go all in on it no matter what.
Speaker 7: And if I didn't think it was doable, I wouldn't
Speaker 7: give it one iota of energy.
Speaker 5: So smart, You definitely use your marketing degree a lot
Speaker 5: in wrestling.
Speaker 2: That is very obvious.
Speaker 5: Can you explain the character of Joe hen and our
Speaker 5: prep We use the term earnest and kind of cheesy,
Speaker 5: but he's winking and also he's very cool. It's like
Speaker 5: a it's a that's kind of the combo. How would
Speaker 5: you describe it?
Speaker 7: So I would say that my what got me over
Speaker 7: with the fans is that my character like is a terrible,
Speaker 7: terrible person but is celebrating.
Speaker 6: So I'm the guy.
Speaker 7: Have you ever been to like a house party and
Speaker 7: everyone's going, let's just say, you know.
Speaker 6: Pick a random named Dave, right, so they go right,
Speaker 6: or well we'll go for like, you know, have you
Speaker 6: met him? He's he's the best guy ever, He's the
Speaker 6: greatest guy ever.
Speaker 7: And everyone at the party is telling you how great
Speaker 7: this guy is and you meet him and he's a
Speaker 7: complete but no one else can see.
Speaker 6: It, just that one person.
Speaker 7: I am that guy, So I will literally if I'm
Speaker 7: feuding with the wrestler, I will terrorize their life.
Speaker 6: And everyone's going Joe Andrew's great, He's a super nice guy.
Speaker 6: And they're like, why can't you see it? And it's like, hey,
Speaker 6: I'm a nice guy, but behind the smile, you know,
Speaker 6: that's that's kind of how we approached it.
Speaker 4: That's great.
Speaker 5: Where did the theme song and the idea for the
Speaker 5: entrance come from?
Speaker 7: So I actually reverse engineered it because I thought to myself, actually,
Speaker 7: you know what, I'll two parts I'll tell you about.
Speaker 7: So the first is the thought process behind the lyrics.
Speaker 7: I was like, how can the wrestlance all about audience interaction?
Speaker 7: And I was like, how can the audience interact with
Speaker 7: me from their seats? And I was like, they can
Speaker 7: clap their hands and they can wave their hands. So
Speaker 7: I had portions of the song. There is a certain
Speaker 7: bpm which Queen talk about this a lot, that are
Speaker 7: certain bpms that just get people to act a certain way.
Speaker 7: One hundred and twenty bpms is exactly two beats per second,
Speaker 7: and there's something about that bpm that just makes people
Speaker 7: kind of do this. When it is the slower bpm
Speaker 7: which they were talking about when they put together, we
Speaker 7: will rock you. It's very similar to the DPM of
Speaker 7: the stock stock and that was kind of more appropriate
Speaker 7: for the wave your hands. So I was like, I'm
Speaker 7: going to and also you have to tell the audience
Speaker 7: what to do. So I showed them the handclapping and
Speaker 7: I said, the song says literally, wave your hands. So
Speaker 7: it was about getting audience interaction.
Speaker 6: And reverse engineering. Where the song actually came from was
Speaker 6: probably about I would say, what this is crazy?
Speaker 7: So I first recorded it in twenty nineteen and it
Speaker 7: was at least ten years earlier when I came up
Speaker 7: with a melody when we were on the road with
Speaker 7: the band and we were talking about how unsuccessful we
Speaker 7: were and how frustrated it was, and how we were like,
Speaker 7: you know, what, to hell with this? We should just
Speaker 7: do what pit Bill does. We should just name cities
Speaker 7: in places, and I started.
Speaker 8: Going, love, way in the world would you like to go?
Speaker 8: That was like this little thing I came up with.
Speaker 8: And then ten years later I just could get out of.
Speaker 6: My head and I was like, no, no, that can't
Speaker 6: be it. No, that was just some dumbs it that's
Speaker 6: going to be the one.
Speaker 4: That's going to be the one.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, man, it's so great. I will tell you
Speaker 5: it's so catchy that when we were I took my
Speaker 5: kids to Survivor Series a couple of weekends ago, and
Speaker 5: we passed a hotel called the Pendry, and the minute
Speaker 5: I saw it, I sang to my kids, believe in
Speaker 5: Joe Pendry, and my they lost it. And then anytime
Speaker 5: we passed the Pendry Hotel, we would sing your song.
Speaker 5: And it's just it's an earworm. It really sticks. It's
Speaker 5: it's pretty incredible. Can we show the guys your Can
Speaker 5: we show them a little bit of your your entrance?
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's play. Can we play it?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean, okay, good? Here it is.
Speaker 9: Name man he peers believe in Joe Hendry. I believe
Speaker 9: in Joe Hendre, the Lone London and Paris and Tokyo, America,
Speaker 9: Scotland and Canada and Mexico. This say, I believe in
Speaker 9: Joe here. I believe in Joe. Here's brilliant, this is awesome,
Speaker 9: this is great way our hands.
Speaker 6: Spoke site sciencing.
Speaker 1: But I believe in Joe Hendre of the joke.
Speaker 9: Hendred, some stigees way that spot side the science.
Speaker 4: But why believe in Jo Entry and Joe here and stages.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, do you know what it reminds me of?
Speaker 3: Do you remember when David Hasselhoff had his music career
Speaker 3: and it was in Germany and they the radios got
Speaker 3: released here and there was basically that, but like totally
Speaker 3: for real this it's so funny.
Speaker 6: Oh my god, you can't you can't go wrong. That's
Speaker 6: a good influence. Take.
Speaker 1: Yeah, really good. I have a strange question, Joe, but
Speaker 1: after talking to you for a little while, do you
Speaker 1: play chess?
Speaker 6: So? Have I played it? Can I play? Yes? And
Speaker 6: am I any good at it? Apparently not?
Speaker 7: Because it actually hurts me to play chess because eagle wise,
Speaker 7: I like to think I'm a pretty smart guy, right,
Speaker 7: I get beat more.
Speaker 6: Than I would.
Speaker 1: Just seem like a person that thinks several steps ahead,
Speaker 1: which is why so it seems like something that would
Speaker 1: your mind would lend itself to chess, because you're like
Speaker 1: the way you said how you created the song where
Speaker 1: you have to reverse engineer the song and you get
Speaker 1: the catchy hook. But I want to do this and
Speaker 1: I want to and it the beats per minute. It
Speaker 1: just seems like you are thinking several steps ahead.
Speaker 6: Career wise, Yeah, you're very You're very correct. Unfortunately, I'm
Speaker 6: just that's one of those things I'm looking.
Speaker 7: At that like the time investment to get good at chess,
Speaker 7: the level of level of competition.
Speaker 6: It's not the one I can't I can't do it.
Speaker 6: I can't do it. I do get too.
Speaker 7: Competitive everything, Like I'm banned from playing Monopoly with my family.
Speaker 6: Can we just can't go there. We just can't go there.
Speaker 6: We can't go there.
Speaker 1: When you do play Monopoly with your family, did you
Speaker 1: play box rules or do you have family rules where
Speaker 1: you make where it's like all the money goes in
Speaker 1: the middle of the pile and if you get or
Speaker 1: is it straight up you are just by the top
Speaker 1: of the box.
Speaker 6: MA viewpoint, is the law is the law?
Speaker 1: Thank you?
Speaker 7: Will I will allow some money collection of free parking.
Speaker 7: But that's as far as I'm going. Although it's it's
Speaker 7: all negotiations fly for me monopoly, all negotiations fly. O.
Speaker 6: Great.
Speaker 5: So going back to how you ended up in the
Speaker 5: WWE your high at TNA, which is the top three
Speaker 5: promotions here in the States, When did you know your
Speaker 5: persona was like catching on?
Speaker 7: I think it happens in different levels, like for me,
Speaker 7: the thing that I love to do is to make
Speaker 7: great stuff. So people like people talk about making it
Speaker 7: in professional wrestling. Oh thank you know, thank God that
Speaker 7: I thought through all the struggle and all the hard times.
Speaker 6: And don't get me wrong, it was hard. It was
Speaker 6: so hard.
Speaker 7: There were times where it just success felt like at
Speaker 7: that level, felt like it would be impossible. There were
Speaker 7: times where you know, I was broke there, but I
Speaker 7: just always believed in what I was doing and I
Speaker 7: was fortunate in that I've been making these silly videos
Speaker 7: since twenty thirteen, so I've always had positive fan feedback
Speaker 7: for you know, having something unique in wrestling.
Speaker 6: So I've all even though.
Speaker 7: Like I mean to be honest with you, there was
Speaker 7: a I would say a five year period where I made,
Speaker 7: you know, not a whole lot of money, but to
Speaker 7: get by, and I was pretty happy, you know, Like
Speaker 7: I got to the point where I was like, actually,
Speaker 7: you know what. I remember that I wrestled a wrestler
Speaker 7: called Scottie too Houghty. I was in Newcastle, England, and
Speaker 7: there was like two three hundred people there and I
Speaker 7: made a video I did like.
Speaker 6: A parody of a bon Jovi song.
Speaker 7: To make fun of them, because I sometimes make videos
Speaker 7: to make fun of my opponents.
Speaker 6: And the crowd went nuts. There was two hundred people.
Speaker 6: There was a great time, and I thought, if this is.
Speaker 7: As big as it gets this, then this is still
Speaker 7: pretty damn cool, and I'm going to be the absolute
Speaker 7: best I could be.
Speaker 6: I'm going to make great stuff. And when I had
Speaker 6: that mentality ship, that's when doors just started to open, left,
Speaker 6: right and center. So that was like before TNA, but
Speaker 6: then I get TNA.
Speaker 7: I had a great time there, and when it really
Speaker 7: got to the next level of popularity. I think it's
Speaker 7: when my song was released as a single, because you know,
Speaker 7: I kind of looked at the charts and I was like,
Speaker 7: no way, it's number twenty in the iTunes charts, and
Speaker 7: I was like, oh, number twelve. Now, okay, it's number six. Okay,
Speaker 7: it's number one on the iTunes chart, and I was like,
Speaker 7: what is going on? And then actually made it to
Speaker 7: the UK's Big Top forty chart and made it to
Speaker 7: number six in the UKHR, so I was like, okay,
Speaker 7: this is pretty well. So I got a ton of
Speaker 7: press for that, and then you know, I made some
Speaker 7: other parody, so just blowing up, and then I think
Speaker 7: when it just went nuclear was when I appeared in
Speaker 7: NXT for the first time. So to give you some context,
Speaker 7: this is how crazy this is. I showed up in
Speaker 7: NXT and just the clip of my entrance became the
Speaker 7: most viewed video on x for WWE that year out
Speaker 7: of anything. And I wasn't outsigned to the company at
Speaker 7: that point, so we're talking like, you know, it's it
Speaker 7: was in the region of like twenty million views type
Speaker 7: thing for me making my entrance in NXT. So I
Speaker 7: think at that point, everybody started to get pretty excited,
Speaker 7: and then you know, you start to think of these
Speaker 7: dream possibilities, like oh what if I was it Royal Rumble.
Speaker 7: And I remember getting a call for WrestleMania, and I
Speaker 7: thought it was going to be you know, I saw
Speaker 7: the number, and I thought it was going to be,
Speaker 7: you know, come along and do something type thing or
Speaker 7: not necessarily WrestleMania. But I remember hearing you know, well
Speaker 7: as you know, when he's an opponent for Randy at WrestleMania,
Speaker 7: and I was like, what, so I got Yeah, I
Speaker 7: got to do WrestleMania when I wasn't even signed to WWE.
Speaker 6: So and like this was so that that was a
Speaker 6: crazy year. It still is.
Speaker 7: Crazy, and I'm grateful for the fact that what I
Speaker 7: found is my entire life. The adventure keeps going. For
Speaker 7: a lot of people, the adventure stops at the end
Speaker 7: of high school or university or whatever. But for me,
Speaker 7: the adventure keeps going. And I'm super grateful to be.
Speaker 6: In ww I.
Speaker 7: You know, It's been something I talked about and visualized
Speaker 7: and wanted to do for so long, and to be
Speaker 7: here now is such an honor and a privilege. To
Speaker 7: be here in this company and to learn from the best,
Speaker 7: you know, That's the reason I'm ww is to be
Speaker 7: the best wrestler I can be. So I'm super excited
Speaker 7: for the opportunity. But yeah, I'm also very grateful for
Speaker 7: the fact that my adventure continues. And what I need
Speaker 7: to do to make sure that I'm honoring everybody who's
Speaker 7: helped me get to this position is I need to deliver.
Speaker 7: I need to prove everyone that's had my back and
Speaker 7: need to prove them all right, you know, That's what
Speaker 7: I'm trying to do by given absolute best efforts.
Speaker 1: That's so we actually have had the honor of interviewing
Speaker 1: a few wrestlers, and I'm always so curious and we've asked,
Speaker 1: We've gotten a couple answers, But it seems like the
Speaker 1: schedule is so rigorous and everything that you're doing is
Speaker 1: so physical. How do you keep your body in the
Speaker 1: shape it needs to be to continue what you're doing?
Speaker 1: Because I know everybody you're always wrestling through injuries and
Speaker 1: you're hurt, So what do you have to do to
Speaker 1: just keep going?
Speaker 7: I mean, touch wood, But I've been super fortunate with
Speaker 7: that side of things, Like I've never had an injury
Speaker 7: that's taken me off TV or anything like that. I've
Speaker 7: been super and I'm super grateful and fortunate for that
Speaker 7: being the case. I do like to you know, we
Speaker 7: all do the absolute best that we can to keep
Speaker 7: each other safe, and we have amazing staff on hand
Speaker 7: as well. Like so for example, that this is something
Speaker 7: where the Performance Center has been incredibly valuable to me
Speaker 7: because when I went there, it's like they do these
Speaker 7: tests and they go, Okay, here's your blood work, here's
Speaker 7: foods that you're intolerant to. Here is vitamins that you
Speaker 7: might be deficient in, and things like that, so you
Speaker 7: know they can actually like for example, I needed to
Speaker 7: have more magnesium and you know in my supplements, and
Speaker 7: I found that before I went there, I was kind
Speaker 7: of getting tired at like six pm. But after I started,
Speaker 7: you know, really investigating what nutrients I needed to supplement,
Speaker 7: start to add more energy. And you know when I
Speaker 7: the other day at the performance center, when I was
Speaker 7: training legs really hard, you can go through to the
Speaker 7: there's a little medical room where they have like these
Speaker 7: recovery sleeves that you can put on your legs and
Speaker 7: it like compresses the air and it helps you recover
Speaker 7: much faster. So has a huge focus on athlete nutrition
Speaker 7: and recovery. That is I'm finding the rate of my
Speaker 7: learning and the tools that have access to is outweighing,
Speaker 7: you know, the decay of age, I guess, because I.
Speaker 6: Mean I feel better now than I did. A couple
Speaker 6: of you know, a couple of years ago.
Speaker 5: Who gave you the best advice when you were out
Speaker 5: there in Vegas getting ready for your WrestleMania debut, John Cia?
Speaker 2: Really, what advice did you give you?
Speaker 7: He is the master of timing and he taught me.
Speaker 7: It's one of these things like you'll sometimes get a
Speaker 7: piece of advice that you you'll get a piece of
Speaker 7: advice that you maybe don't fully understand at the time,
Speaker 7: but then maybe a year later it will click. But
Speaker 7: basically it was a piece of advice for like and
Speaker 7: I would say that him and Triple H said the
Speaker 7: same thing to me. I was kind of asking them
Speaker 7: about how I should approach my entrance in the rumble,
Speaker 7: because you know, there's an urgency to get to the ring,
Speaker 7: but there's also you know, you want.
Speaker 6: To show the people who you are.
Speaker 7: And both John Cena and Triple H were kind of
Speaker 7: emphasizing the point of have your moment and when the
Speaker 7: crowd is at their peak and it starts to come down,
Speaker 7: then maybe, you know, the urgency kicks in and you
Speaker 7: make your way to the ring and that approach. You know,
Speaker 7: it kind of works that way for many things in wrestling.
Speaker 7: So I got a little bit of an insight into,
Speaker 7: you know, speaking to two masters of timing in our business.
Speaker 5: I know there was some chatter at the time about
Speaker 5: whether Randy Orton beating you the way he did was
Speaker 5: a net positive for Joe Hendry as a new character
Speaker 5: in the WWE universe. Considering your opinion is the one
Speaker 5: that matters most. What is your overall take on it?
Speaker 7: I mean to me, it's look, some people might be
Speaker 7: offended by this, but anybody that says that was a
Speaker 7: net negative for me just doesn't know what they're talking about.
Speaker 7: They just don't know what they're talking about. I think
Speaker 7: the viewpoint that this is the wrestling business. And all
Speaker 7: I can tell you is that I felt that the
Speaker 7: fans got a great moment. I felt that that it
Speaker 7: was it was great for Randy because it was difficult.
Speaker 7: They put so much build into the feud with.
Speaker 6: Him and Kevin.
Speaker 7: You know, what do you do if Kevin's not at WrestleMania.
Speaker 7: So we were able to make the best of a
Speaker 7: difficult situation by putting me in there. And like I say,
Speaker 7: it was a great shock moment for WrestleMania. And I
Speaker 7: know what my value is and where it's at. And
Speaker 7: I'm very good about having an understanding of where that is.
Speaker 7: And I can tell you that because at the time
Speaker 7: I was doing a bunch of signings, and I can
Speaker 7: tell you that demand for my autographs and pictures and
Speaker 7: signatures skyrocket after WrestleMania.
Speaker 6: So I'm in the wrestler business and that was great.
Speaker 6: For business.
Speaker 2: Great man.
Speaker 7: I love it.
Speaker 1: So I've always been curious about this. Take yourself out
Speaker 1: of the picture, not you, You can't be one of
Speaker 1: your matches. What's the best wrestling match you've ever seen
Speaker 1: in your life?
Speaker 7: The one that I use when people ask me this
Speaker 7: question is Shawn Michaels versus Ric Flair. And the reason
Speaker 7: is because I think as a fan, we all and
Speaker 7: this was it was Ric Flair's career was on the line,
Speaker 7: and Ric Flair is like my second favorite wrestler at
Speaker 7: all time. And if the story was that if he
Speaker 7: lost their next match, he lost he would be forced
Speaker 7: to retire.
Speaker 6: So it's him and Shaw Michael's at WrestleMania at twenty four.
Speaker 6: And look, we all know in our head that Rick
Speaker 6: Flair's career is about to be over, but in our
Speaker 6: hearts we wanted to keep going.
Speaker 7: So I remember getting home from school, sitting on the
Speaker 7: chair watching it on the computer, and I started heat
Speaker 7: on the chair, but then I was just moving forward
Speaker 7: on the chair and I was literally on the edge
Speaker 7: of my seat and I just got completely lost in
Speaker 7: the moment. And that was the match that made me
Speaker 7: feel the most. That moment where Sean is about to
Speaker 7: superkick him and end his careerity. He doesn't want to
Speaker 7: do it, but he has to do it, And that
Speaker 7: to me was you know, that was cinema, So I
Speaker 7: would say that's that's the match that I think has
Speaker 7: had the biggest impact on me.
Speaker 1: Wow, it was a great match. Even I know that match,
Speaker 1: I know I didn't see Sean Michael sitting there ready
Speaker 1: to kick him, like shaking his head, crying like he
Speaker 1: doesn't want to do it. It was an amazing moment.
Speaker 1: It was amazing theatrical moment, It really was.
Speaker 7: Yeah, And that's the thing, like not we can't always
Speaker 7: remember a lot of the moves, but we can remember
Speaker 7: the moments, right, and that match was full of moments,
Speaker 7: and those moments translate to non wrestling bands as well.
Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of people go to NXT to get over,
Speaker 5: which for writer and Will is a term for getting
Speaker 5: more popular with the fans through experience and becoming one
Speaker 5: with your character. But there is no doubt that you
Speaker 5: are are already way over with the fans. So is
Speaker 5: WWE looking to tweak your character at all?
Speaker 6: I think that.
Speaker 7: From my experience, I can tell you that WWS welcome
Speaker 7: me with open arms, and it's a collaborative environment because
Speaker 7: I think what we're looking for is to make things
Speaker 7: the absolute best that they can be.
Speaker 6: And so we know that I've managed to get to
Speaker 6: a certain point.
Speaker 7: With the tools that I've had, but now I have
Speaker 7: in the same way that the performance center gives me
Speaker 7: physical tools and now have creative tools that I didn't
Speaker 7: have before. Now with the production value of WW, that
Speaker 7: are that are maybe other bells and whistles that we
Speaker 7: can add to the music side of things. That are
Speaker 7: things that I'm going to learn from. You know, ww's
Speaker 7: method of how they produced professional wrestling, Like I just
Speaker 7: took part in the Iron Survivor match an XT deadline,
Speaker 7: which is basically you have it's a twenty five minute match.
Speaker 7: Every five minutes someone who comes out and every time
Speaker 7: someone is pinned, there's ninety seconds in the penalty box,
Speaker 7: which creates chaos and complexities and storylines overlapping and it's
Speaker 7: it's putting me in new situations that I've never been
Speaker 7: in before, and it really helps me to understand ww's
Speaker 7: approach to producing wrestling, which I.
Speaker 6: Understand from what I understand is they are making movies
Speaker 6: and that's and so when we were approaching this match.
Speaker 6: That's how it felt to me. It wasn't just like
Speaker 6: you know, a regular match. It felt like we.
Speaker 7: Were making all making a movie together. And I've enjoyed
Speaker 7: learning that process. That's my understanding.
Speaker 5: And Max, well, you've joined in the company right at
Speaker 5: one of its biggest milestone moments. John Cena's final match
Speaker 5: taking place tomorrow night in Washington, d C. For Saturday
Speaker 5: Night's main event. What has John Cena meant to you
Speaker 5: over the years.
Speaker 7: I think that there are so many answers that I
Speaker 7: could give to this, but I'd like to give the
Speaker 7: one that is sticking out in my mind right now,
Speaker 7: and that is that he is just the utmost professional.
Speaker 6: He is. He is so professional.
Speaker 7: He is just the example of someone who does the
Speaker 7: job to their best, the best of their ability, and
Speaker 7: goes above and beyond. And it's not just about the
Speaker 7: in ring side of things. It's about his interactions with the.
Speaker 6: Fans as well. Like I just saw a video package
Speaker 6: the other day where John was watching some footage of
Speaker 6: a kid that made a video for him, and they'd
Speaker 6: said that his.
Speaker 7: Like he had helped his his family overcome, you know,
Speaker 7: with with how they processed and overcame and recovered from cancer.
Speaker 7: And it was like, you know, so the kid was
Speaker 7: saying his mom had cancer, and he was saying to
Speaker 7: his mom, like, you know, John Cena says, never give up.
Speaker 6: So I believe in you.
Speaker 7: You you you never give up and you never gave
Speaker 7: up and and she said, and he said that that
Speaker 7: helped motivate his family to stay positive and keep positive.
Speaker 7: And you know you it's we could. There's so many
Speaker 7: like countly he's the greatest of all time when.
Speaker 6: It comes to actually doing professional wrestling. I think that
Speaker 6: that is. I agree with that. I think he's the
Speaker 6: greatest of.
Speaker 7: All time, and I think it's everything is subjective, but
Speaker 7: to me, I think it's as close to objective fact
Speaker 7: as you can get to say that he's the greatest
Speaker 7: of all time. But it's not just the in ring stuff.
Speaker 7: It's the time that he's taken with the fans like
Speaker 7: he is the He has more make a wish visits
Speaker 7: than any other human being. And to me, even that
Speaker 7: in itself is an achievement and a contribution that most
Speaker 7: people couldn't even fathom. Think about the good that that
Speaker 7: has put out into the universe and to be honest,
Speaker 7: that is very when you think about that, it inspires
Speaker 7: other wrestlers to be better. So I think John has
Speaker 7: said publicly his goal was to leave the place better
Speaker 7: than he found it, and I think he has absolutely
Speaker 7: done that.
Speaker 2: He definitely has. Do you have a favorite John Cena match?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 7: I have a few, So I would say him versus
Speaker 7: CM Punk Get Money in the Bank twenty eleven was
Speaker 7: a real pivotal moment in the wrestling business. And again,
Speaker 7: just like we said before, it's those moments that we remember,
Speaker 7: and that match was just it was It was awesome.
Speaker 7: That is one I think for me. You know, my
Speaker 7: favorite wrestler when I got into the business was The Rock,
Speaker 7: So seeing him clash with The Rock that first time
Speaker 7: is just something I never.
Speaker 6: Thought i'd see.
Speaker 7: I thought that The Rock was gone forever, you know,
Speaker 7: and he came back after seven years and they had
Speaker 7: the you know, over a year's build and then they
Speaker 7: faced each other. I think it was wrestling at twenty eight,
Speaker 7: so that's up there. I also think that the match
Speaker 7: he had with when Rock Lesnar returned in twenty fourteen
Speaker 7: was amazing for different reasons. It was just like an
Speaker 7: intensity that that an uncomfortableness that I'd never really seen
Speaker 7: in a professional match before.
Speaker 6: So that was like a completely different form of art there.
Speaker 6: It's hard to pick one, but are there are just
Speaker 6: there are so many, so many great ones. One that
Speaker 6: really had an impact to me was him versus RVD
Speaker 6: at one night Stanton as.
Speaker 7: Well, Oh, because he was like he was literally he
Speaker 7: was getting bood out of the building.
Speaker 6: He was there and it was it was a career
Speaker 6: defining moment for him because he just pushed through.
Speaker 7: All the backlash and that you know, as wrestlers, we
Speaker 7: all get a lot of backclash, even the most popular
Speaker 7: wrestlers in the world.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we'll just get haters all day, every day.
Speaker 7: And that was like an entire building at the Hammerstein
Speaker 7: ball Room just screaming at him, wanting to lose.
Speaker 6: Bay just pushed through it and to have the the
Speaker 6: confidence to do that, that was pretty cult too. Well.
Speaker 5: In a very John Cena move, he has asked that
Speaker 5: the rest of the matches tomorrow night have established WWE
Speaker 5: superstars going up against the up and coming NX tiers.
Speaker 5: So if you were included on this card, who would
Speaker 5: you want to wrestle? If you were to be included.
Speaker 7: I mean, wow, that that is I mean, it's hard
Speaker 7: for me to think about that, because, to be honest,
Speaker 7: the thing I am thinking about is my one of
Speaker 7: my best.
Speaker 6: Friends in the business, Leon Slayer.
Speaker 7: He is is on the card and him and Javon
Speaker 7: Evans are facing AJ Styles and Dragon Lee, and Leon
Speaker 7: has stated publicly that his dream.
Speaker 6: Match is AJ Styles.
Speaker 7: So for me, like, I'm super happy for my friend
Speaker 7: because I've had you know, I had that Rumble moment,
Speaker 7: I had that Wrestlemanium moment, and now I'm getting to
Speaker 7: see one of my best friends.
Speaker 6: Have their dream match on this iconic card.
Speaker 7: So to me, that's like, that's and in terms of
Speaker 7: match qualie, that's just going to be as good as
Speaker 7: it gets.
Speaker 6: So that's that's where my thinking is right now.
Speaker 7: Okay, I'm excited for Leon, I'm happy for Javaon as well,
Speaker 7: and everyone on the card.
Speaker 6: That is just it's it's awesome.
Speaker 5: Okay, then let's remove the event tomorrow night. Who is
Speaker 5: your dream match right now? I know it probably changes,
Speaker 5: but as of right now, if you to take your
Speaker 5: dream match, who would it be?
Speaker 7: I have have I will say this, So my my
Speaker 7: five favorite wrestlers where The Rock, Rick Flair, Kurt Angle,
Speaker 7: John Cena, and Chris Chenko. I've already wrestled Kert Angle,
Speaker 7: which I was very lucky to do. I will say this,
Speaker 7: there's a video. Not many people know this, but it
Speaker 7: is online. There's a video from twenty seventeen where I
Speaker 7: make a bold claim.
Speaker 6: It's on YouTube. When I make a bold claim, not
Speaker 6: saying it's a match, not saying anything, but I do
Speaker 6: say I will stand in a professional wrestling ring.
Speaker 7: And I'm basically in that video, I'm saying one day
Speaker 7: I'll come face to face with the Rock.
Speaker 6: So that's what that's what.
Speaker 7: So, Hey, that could be in a wrestling ring or
Speaker 7: a backstage promo or something like that, you know, I
Speaker 7: and hey, anything can happen. Because I mean Ethan Page,
Speaker 7: who is the NXT North American Champion. He ended up
Speaker 7: and face to face with The Rock on NXT, you know.
Speaker 7: So I think that's what's exciting is that brands crossover.
Speaker 7: So that's a kind of that's a dream scenario. But yeah,
Speaker 7: that's I would love to I've never I've not had
Speaker 7: a chance to properly. I think I said I've said
Speaker 7: hello to Rick Flair, but I've never had a chance
Speaker 7: to have a conversation with him, so that'd be that'd
Speaker 7: be really cool too.
Speaker 5: Man, that's awesome now, jes So you know, liv Morgan
Speaker 5: is the official female pod Meets World champion, so we
Speaker 5: are in the market for a male counterpart.
Speaker 2: Would you would you be interested?
Speaker 7: What do I need to do to be I mean
Speaker 7: to be champion? That's that's, you know, a big responsibility.
Speaker 7: So I've never seen the show. I do recall seeing
Speaker 7: the show like advertised.
Speaker 2: It's enough, that's it. We just tell you.
Speaker 7: I'm going to do my search after this. I'm good
Speaker 7: and you know it's going to have to go no way.
Speaker 7: I was on the podcast for those guys, so I'm
Speaker 7: going to do a better search I can. I ask
Speaker 7: you guys a quick question. That's a good question. So
Speaker 7: how do you all feel about the fact you got
Speaker 7: to do this really cool thing and now you're kind
Speaker 7: of back together again doing this.
Speaker 6: How does that feel? Well?
Speaker 2: We never really left?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, come on, that's doing the podcast has been
Speaker 3: like yeah, it's it's life changing. It's been so amazing,
Speaker 3: and yeah, we got to go on tour and the
Speaker 3: connection with our fan base just like it's you know,
Speaker 3: we feel like we grew up with America and it's
Speaker 3: you know it was. It was so funny because when
Speaker 3: I feel like that relationship was always kind of one sided,
Speaker 3: and now doing the podcast, it feels like it's it's
Speaker 3: going both directions.
Speaker 4: It's wonderful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 5: Unlike with wrestling, where you're you like you said, so
Speaker 5: much of what you do is about whether or not
Speaker 5: you have a connection, interaction, interaction with the fans.
Speaker 2: We're doing sitcom.
Speaker 5: We didn't have that back then, especially in the nineties
Speaker 5: where there wasn't even social media. But now we're able
Speaker 5: to do conventions, we're able to meet people face to face.
Speaker 2: Like writer said, we went on a live tour.
Speaker 5: We were performing for thousands of people and then doing
Speaker 5: meet and greets after and now every week we share
Speaker 5: ourselves with the audience, and then when people come up
Speaker 5: to us and they tell us they listen to the podcast,
Speaker 5: we know they actually know us, not just the characters
Speaker 5: they've seen us play. And it's made such a difference
Speaker 5: in the appreciation we have for the years we spent
Speaker 5: doing Boy Meets World.
Speaker 1: I will tell you, I think we need an entrance
Speaker 1: song now.
Speaker 6: Though I know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's the idea that we don't have one. Now,
Speaker 1: if Joe, if you were to write an entry song
Speaker 1: for this world.
Speaker 6: Hey, if you've got spare million dollars line, it's.
Speaker 2: So funny who said that. I literally just found a
Speaker 2: million dollars. I was like, Oh, what's this spare million
Speaker 2: dollars doing? Thank you for saying that. Well, I want
Speaker 2: everyone to know.
Speaker 5: Saturday Night's main event, John Cena's final match takes place
Speaker 5: tomorrow night, Saturday, December thirteenth, live from the nation's capital
Speaker 5: at eight pm Eastern five pm Pacific, exclusively on Peacock and.
Speaker 2: We will be looking for you, Joe.
Speaker 5: We would love to see the Pod Meets World champ
Speaker 5: at such a big event, so we're going to just.
Speaker 6: Keep us question. Can ask a question what do I
Speaker 6: need to do to be the Pod meets World chap
Speaker 6: that dollar? I feel well, I mean, you know, do
Speaker 6: you want a million? I want a million, let's let's right.
Speaker 6: But I feel like I don't.
Speaker 7: I feel like if I'm asked a question about the
Speaker 7: CD is like, what what do I need to do
Speaker 7: to air in that championship?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 2: It's really easy.
Speaker 5: You just we ask you would you like to be
Speaker 5: the champion, and you just say yes, it's great. Great,
Speaker 5: all right, you're the chair, you're the chance.
Speaker 6: I will send you the address to send the belt
Speaker 6: to next time we talk.
Speaker 5: Perfect, you know, and if you ever have like some
Speaker 5: spare moments and you think maybe you want to create,
Speaker 5: like maybe watch some of the show and you go, oh,
Speaker 5: I actually have great entrance music for them.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know.
Speaker 6: Question.
Speaker 2: You didn't hear that part.
Speaker 1: Also, you also won't understand this, but my co hosts
Speaker 1: and our fans will get this very much. Our belt
Speaker 1: we're going to send you is squeaky Squeaky beout.
Speaker 2: Little Inside Joke World. You've got a lot of episodes.
Speaker 5: Took you said, thank you so much for being here
Speaker 5: with us. It was an absolute pleasure. I knew you
Speaker 5: guys were going to love that video.
Speaker 4: I the middle it kind of correct.
Speaker 3: Great.
Speaker 5: It just reminds me so much like when I think
Speaker 5: of things that I know will get writer, like certain
Speaker 5: aspects of wrestling that writer loves. It's hard, and it
Speaker 5: is true that it's hard to if you don't love
Speaker 5: every aspect of it.
Speaker 2: It's a big time commitment.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 2: The matches are very long going to the things.
Speaker 5: It's like an all day event, and if you don't
Speaker 5: love every single aspect of it, then maybe you're just
Speaker 5: not going to be an overall fan. But there are
Speaker 5: elements that I go this will speak to writer. Joe
Speaker 5: Hendry is one of those elements.
Speaker 3: And character character, like the creativity of that character, the specificity,
Speaker 3: like the way he was able to pitch it is
Speaker 3: like the guy at the party that every You're like,
Speaker 3: that is so clever.
Speaker 4: And deep, you know, like that's a that's so interesting.
Speaker 6: I love it.
Speaker 1: It's also interesting to really talk to somebody who gets
Speaker 1: into this. I know they all get it, but who
Speaker 1: really talks about the idea that it's like it's a business. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's tons of aspects to the business. And that's one
Speaker 1: of the reasons he keeps talking about John Cena's like,
Speaker 1: here's somebody who came in and got the business right away.
Speaker 1: Where in the ring is one thing. Out of the
Speaker 1: ring is one thing, Your persona is one thing. How
Speaker 1: you deal with the fans is one thing. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's a business. So people forget that, and it
Speaker 1: seems like he was, you know, seen as the best
Speaker 1: at it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. Yeah.
Speaker 5: He Sina is incredible and Joe Hendry is truly one
Speaker 5: of my favorite newer, you know, people to enter into
Speaker 5: the world.
Speaker 2: He's still at n XT, but it's pretty incredible.
Speaker 1: So when's the last time you would know this? When's
Speaker 1: the last time a w w E champion was not
Speaker 1: an American? Oh?
Speaker 5: I mean there are a lot of them, Like Goonther
Speaker 5: is an American? Okay, so there there are, there are
Speaker 5: a few.
Speaker 1: Who else Guther was is a was the champion or
Speaker 1: is the champion?
Speaker 5: Not as of right now, but yes, has been a Yeah,
Speaker 5: he has been.
Speaker 2: He has been a champ.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 5: He wears a black robe sometimes and Keaton has requested
Speaker 5: a black robe so that he can be.
Speaker 1: Gun the heck. Yeah, yeah, love this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty cool.
Speaker 5: Drew McIntyre another one. Jensen just sent me Drew McIntyre
Speaker 5: another one. He is Irish, Scottish, some kind of Ish Scottish.
Speaker 2: Gotcha he's an Ish. Yeah, he's Scottish. Anyway.
Speaker 5: Thank you all for joining us for this episode of
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