1 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 1: This is One Bills Live, presented by Calllida Health. 2 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 2: All Right, welcome into a Friday edition of One Bill's Live. 3 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and this is our 4 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 2: final day of coverage, and I will tell you, Steve, 5 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: it has cleared out considerably. 6 00:00:53,320 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: We're alone, yes, Radio rows now Radio Cluster, but. 7 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 2: We're still here, still bringing to the coverage and we'll 8 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 2: get into all the ins and outs of the position 9 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 2: groups coming through here. Wide receivers were up at the 10 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 2: podium this morning. And it's not a primary positional need. 11 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 3: But you know that. 12 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 2: They want to do something at that position. I don't 13 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 2: know what it is about or where they come down 14 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 2: on Amari Cooper as a free agent, but I think 15 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 2: he's not a field stretcher anymore. So I don't think 16 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: they want to go that route, shall we say. I 17 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 2: think they want someone who has speed to burn, that 18 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: is a threat with speed, and because of that, I 19 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 2: think they look in another direction. 20 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, we've been talking about it all week. When we 21 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: had Sean McDermott on right out of the gate on Monday, 22 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: we were talking about fast guy and field stretchers and 23 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: all the wide out class and what they might do 24 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: offensive because everybody we know they're gonna grab defensive players. 25 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: But you know, kind of what are the parameters they like? 26 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: And he said, I want fast he goes, we want 27 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: fast guys. Yes, so we thought, okay, he's going to 28 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: get a speed merchant one of these guys. He goes, 29 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: but I don't want small. 30 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 2: Rast guys, which is that which takes Marque's Hollywood Brown 31 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 2: off the market as far as the Bills are concerned. 32 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 4: Based on that description, right, they want not happening. 33 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: It's very simple, it's simple mathematics. It's small guys take 34 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: the same amount of punishment as big guys. They gets 35 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 1: tackled by the same dbs, tackled by the same linebackers, 36 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 1: tackled by whatever whatever. But it's hard to hold out 37 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: on all physical punishments, so they're not as durable. Size 38 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:51,679 Speaker 1: means durability, and that's It doesn't mean you're more fragile 39 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: or not tough enough. It just means your body can't 40 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: hang in there with the physicality of the National Football League. 41 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: And they need guys that can play and be a 42 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: f eighteen weeks of the regular season, and that's and 43 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: small guys don't, So that was interesting to me because 44 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: we you know, you get these little tidbits of truths. 45 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 2: That's a big tidbit, Yeah it is. It's talking about 46 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 2: not only a skill. They're looking for pure and utulterated 47 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 2: threatening speed. 48 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: And a characteristic but size to go along with it. 49 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 2: And that doesn't mean that the speed merchant has to 50 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 2: be six', five but he's got to be at least 51 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 2: six foot six. 52 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: One we're we're sitting here right now To The Kansas 53 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,839 Speaker 1: city chiefs radio station is just. Packing it that's Why 54 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: the worthy trade happened. Last year, Oh yeah worthy is a. 55 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: Tiny guy they had no interest. In him they had 56 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: no interest. In Him the bills philosophy, is different and 57 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: you know they continue to both teams continue to be 58 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: successful with, that right. 59 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 2: And receivers are going to. Run tomorrow so there are 60 00:03:55,360 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 2: already guys making. Bold claims so these are Kind of 61 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 2: bill's notes because There are bills tie. Ins here so 62 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 2: the receivers and quarterbacks met the media here AT The nfl. 63 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 2: Combine today the receiver class not an, elite one but 64 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 2: there is some quality. Be had on the first two 65 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 2: days of, The draft texas Wide Receiver matthew golden confirmed 66 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 2: he had a formal interview With the bills to the, 67 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 2: media today so too Did fellow texas Wide Receiver isaiah 68 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 2: BOND and tcu wide Receiver Savvy. On williams bond said 69 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 2: today he's going To Break xavier worthies record time of 70 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 2: four point two one from. Last, Year, now bond who 71 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 2: Transferred from Alabama, to texas can flat. Out fly but 72 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 2: four to two. Is moving just four two is four, 73 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 2: TWO one i mean it's not four to. 74 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 3: Two. 75 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: Five, right yeah here's, The thing so let's let's just 76 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: don't don't come in here telling me you're gonna. Bring 77 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: it he's not the. 78 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 2: ONLY one a couple of running backs said they're gonna 79 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 2: blow it up too and run. A one guy says 80 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 2: he's gonna run a four. 81 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: To, one okay let me color. Me skeptical if, they, 82 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: do awesome good. 83 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 4: On him. 84 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: That's great It Was. Jaydon blue, that's great said that the. 85 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 1: Running back but here's. The thing don't show up here 86 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: and run a four to. Three. 87 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 3: Eight. 88 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 2: THEN yeah i haven't gone headlong into the receiver prospects 89 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 2: Yet because i've kind of focused on the, defensive players 90 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 2: knowing those are more. Pressing needs for. The bills but 91 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 2: here's the basic Difference Between golden Bond And Savvy. On, 92 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 2: Williams okay golden has a chance to go in the, 93 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 2: first round maybe at the end of. The round he's 94 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 2: about six foot one hundred and ninety pounds and he is, 95 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 2: a great great. Route runner so if he runs a 96 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 2: good time like to qualify as a. Field stretcher He's on, 97 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,239 Speaker 2: buffalo's radar and we already know he had a formal 98 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 2: interview because, he, said so then we have you on. 99 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: The, Radar, anyway, well right he might beat that's the 100 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: Guy that brandon is up there going just, run, slow 101 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: well maybe run a four to Six Maybe isaiah bond certified. 102 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:09,239 Speaker 2: Speed merchant problem with him is he needs work on running. 103 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 2: His routes he's he's a little unrefined in, that area 104 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 2: so he probably goes later even if he runs a. 105 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 2: Good time and then you Have Save on WILLIAMS from 106 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 2: tcu who's huge six' five two twenty five and. He 107 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 2: runs fast so if he runs, A good time i 108 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 2: think he could move himself from maybe day three into. 109 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 2: Late Day Two Because savvey on williams is very much 110 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 2: a raw. Piece of clay he is a developmental prospect 111 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 2: in every sense, of the word because he is not 112 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 2: a great route. Runner right now he is not a 113 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 2: great reliable catcher of the. Football right now but at six' five, 114 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,559 Speaker 2: and two twenty five there are teams that might be willing, 115 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 2: to work with that especially if it's only gonna cost 116 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 2: him a fourth or. A fifth ROUND pick and what 117 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 2: tcu did to make him useful for them is they 118 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 2: used him as, a gadget type player a, lot of, 119 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 2: end rounds jet sweeps. Those kinds of things so if he, 120 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 2: runs a fast time he might be able to move 121 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 2: from say the fifth to the fourth or the, fourth 122 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 2: to the. 123 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 4: Third depending. 124 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: On teams more six if you're those kind of trades sixty, 125 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: five two twenty plus two twenty five, plus, and you 126 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: run yeah you're you're gonna get drafted much higher than 127 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: whatever your. 128 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 3: Production. 129 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: Says, you, will yeah so yeah he may he may 130 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: be a guy, that's there at thirty but if he, 131 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: runs a fast time. 132 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 2: He will not be so if you see receivers with 133 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 2: decent size, tomorrow running fast times we're talking, four threes 134 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 2: or lower just keep an eye on them because they 135 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 2: could very Well wind up on buffalo's radar running backs Are. 136 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 2: Also coming Through Oregon running back jordan james confirmed He 137 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 2: met with the bills among a. Handful of other teams 138 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 2: there is one common deny dominator with all, of these 139 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 2: aforementioned players speed and. A Lot of it, jordan james 140 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 2: is shifty and he's a guy that served in multiple Different, 141 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 2: roles for the ducks so he's an. Intriguing PLAYER as 142 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 2: well and i think we have to see how things 143 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 2: move through the course of The. Offseason For The bills 144 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 2: is ty johnson. Re Signed Or not is james cook given. 145 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 2: An extension or not the running back position could become. 146 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 4: More of a Positional. 147 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 2: Consideration for the bills If You don't, get ty johnson 148 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 2: back or If Something goes with james cook where he 149 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 2: is not, signed to an extension now you run the 150 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 2: risk of not having him on your. Roster in twenty 151 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 2: six do you want to get another, back, In, The pipeline. 152 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: Right yeah get him, acclimated to the offense get Him 153 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: To where like james cook did His Rookie. 154 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 4: Year behind devin sector so All. 155 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 1: That's on, the IT'S interesting though and i said this 156 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: earlier in the in the. Weeks preceding is combine this 157 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 1: is where you find out, what they really think because 158 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: they have their. Actions will tell you meeting, with running 159 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: backs here meeting, with wide, outs here defensive linemen all 160 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: that stuff starts to take Shape of what. The bills 161 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: are thinking and it's not much. Different than we thought 162 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 1: but the fact that they're, meeting with running backs it's 163 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: a little. Bit Of A surprise signing khalil chakir to. 164 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: The extension, this week it's notable the timing. Of, It 165 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: and everything yeah i'm this is why you know. We 166 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: love being here it's because teams have to show their 167 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: hand and it's the first glimpse. We get of it. 168 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 2: LET'S go around The Nfl, presented by kalida healthy official 169 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 2: Healthcare System. Of the buffalo bills the clock is ticking 170 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 2: on A Decision on where matthew stafford will. Be playing 171 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 2: next season He's meeting with the rams today to determine 172 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 2: WHETHER he'll remain in la or possibly accept A Trade 173 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 2: To the las Vegas Raiders Or, the new york giants 174 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 2: two teams with whom his representatives and he himself has 175 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 2: spoken with to get a sense of the lay of 176 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 2: the land in, those two respective organizations so they're the. 177 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 2: Two primary trade options stafford is seeking one hundred million 178 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 2: dollars over. The next two years he, just turned thirty 179 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: seven so presumably he's looking at this as his last 180 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 2: opportunity to really cash in big time play two more 181 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 2: years and then ride. Off into the sunset and he's 182 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 2: got a decision to MAKE because he's got i think he's, 183 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 2: got three, young girls you. Know and his wife do 184 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 2: you want to uproot your family move Across The country 185 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 2: to new jersey or do you want to move One State? 186 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 4: Over to? 187 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 2: Las vegas you know this is. What he's, weighing out 188 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 2: and here to Me. Is the issue, steve people are 189 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 2: like what's Going? On with the rams why would they 190 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 2: want to? Get RID of him what I think, from 191 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 2: a rams perspective you look at all the defensive talent 192 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 2: they've accumulated on their roster in the. Last two draft 193 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 2: classes those are guys that're gonna want to re sign in. 194 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 2: A couple of Years You're gonna have braden fisk with 195 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 2: his handout IN two years going i. Need my second 196 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 2: Contract You're gonna have kobe turner WITH his handout saying i. 197 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 4: Need My Second. 198 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 2: Contract, and jared veris yeah you can buy some time 199 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 2: there with a fifty year option because he's a first, 200 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 2: round play a year but you buy. Only one extra 201 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 2: year they don't want to be on the hook for 202 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 2: a thirty nine year old quarterback at fifty eight million 203 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 2: dollars when they know they got. To PAY those players 204 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 2: so i think that's why they'd prefer to keep. Going year, to, 205 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 2: year stafford said yeah we've been. There and. DONE that 206 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 2: i'm underpaid i need two years one hundred million. DOLLARS 207 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 2: or forget it i want. To go somewhere else that's, 208 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 2: The rub. 209 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: Right Now that's right and. I'll say this too the 210 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 1: reason this is such a big deal is It nobody 211 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: is denying stafford's got a lot of. Football left in 212 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: him he. Can still sling it bill's fans saw IT 213 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: first hand. In la this season the guy's thirty seven 214 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: and slings it like a. Twenty, Seven year old right. 215 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: He's got some football so you go to one OF, 216 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: these Teams Like, La Like new York Las. Vegas or 217 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: las vegas i'm telling you that they're gonna get some 218 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: good football out. Of their quarterback position. And he's worth 219 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: it if look at the list of fifty million dollar. Quarterbacks, 220 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: in the league yeah he. Belongs On, That List, Trevor Lawrence, 221 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, jalen hurst justin, Herbert Just, You Know, Dak Prescott. Jared, 222 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: Goff Joe burrow okay joe burrow is really the first elite. 223 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: Guy On that list jared goff's playing on a. Really 224 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: Good Football, team but joe burrow and, then it's you Know. 225 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: And then, it's mahomes so. 226 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 3: Yeah he. 227 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 1: Belongs in that conversation he's as good as any of 228 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: those guys on the top of that. LIST you're gonna 229 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: get i think it is a value deal if you 230 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: give him fifty million bucks for, the next two years 231 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: guarantee the. First, year of it man it's you're gonna, 232 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: get a good quarterback. A really good quarterback. 233 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 2: I think what the rams worry about is being on 234 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 2: the hook for all that money when they have to 235 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 2: pay those defensive players and they want to guard against they. 236 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 4: Don't Want pending decline and, I'll Say this. 237 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: Too matt stafford is light Years Ahead of where aaron rodgers. 238 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 1: Was Two Years ago when aaron rodgers came in and 239 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: made Such A. Buzz In new york matt stafford's a 240 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: way Better Quarterback now than, aaron, rodgers was then right but. 241 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 2: He was thirty, Nine stafford's Thirty seven and how rogers 242 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 2: looked at age thirty Nine is what the rams are 243 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 2: trying to avoid with a long term deal because, two 244 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 2: years from now is he? 245 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 4: Gonna? 246 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: Look the, Same probably not fine, BUT here's, the yeah 247 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 1: i Hear HERE'S why the rams. I think are fumbling 248 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: give him fifty million dollars over the next two years, 249 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: and draft a, guy get a guy go out and 250 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: find your next guy. While he's doing it what are 251 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 1: they gonna do now, If they trade him who's gonna? Play? 252 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 1: Quarterback for them now. 253 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 3: They got to hit the reset book and They. 254 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 2: COULD pick up rogers i suppose once He's. Clipped by 255 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 2: the jets. 256 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: You, could do, that yeah they could But. 257 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 3: So. 258 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: Could, the raiders. 259 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 2: Yeah uh we'll talk a little bit More about this 260 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 2: whole stafford Thing When We get mike goulllick junior here 261 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 2: between us in, about twenty minutes time as he'll kind 262 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 2: of help us WITH some of the nfl league wide 263 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 2: stories that are. A buzz right now the rich getting 264 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 2: richer reports are Out there that the eagles are fishing 265 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 2: around to see if they Can Land defensive end miles 266 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 2: garrett in A. Trade with the browns sounds just like, 267 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 2: exploratory talks right now as you would expect during the 268 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 2: week when the, entire league is here you bump into 269 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 2: guys as you can talk. To face TO Face So 270 00:14:55,920 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 2: presumably gm howie Roseman Discussing, things WITH andrew barrety The. Gm, 271 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 2: of the browns hey he's still really Committed to not 272 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 2: moving garrett or might? You think about it so it 273 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 2: sounds like there are exploratory talks. Between The two teams 274 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 2: the Eagles Know they're losing, brandon graham To Retirement likely 275 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 2: losing josh, sweat to free agency as Well As, defensive 276 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 2: tackle milton williams so. They're looking to, reload but good 277 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 2: grief is that does that defense need that? Kind of a, 278 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 2: Reload My. 279 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: Got yeah miles, GARRETT on that defense ye puts. Them 280 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: as the favorite and if they're not already THAT repeat in, 281 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: the nfl to repeat we may have gone a long 282 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: time Without Between repeats And super bowl champions we make. 283 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: Go Real quick Here If, philly gets miles garrett they're 284 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: tough out, the way it is and he would make 285 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: them all. That, much more tough yeah. 286 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 3: That's. 287 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: The way it is and all these gm they are 288 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: thirty One other gms called cleveland to find out what 289 00:15:55,640 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: it would take that you got. To Eyes that good 290 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: and i'll say this to every quarterback who is every 291 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: team also who is in need of A quarterback is 292 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: calling la find out if they could Work A, deal 293 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: for matt stafford because that. Guy can really, play YOU 294 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: know what what's la gonna get back? In return? For 295 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: him who knows and who knows what it's gonna take. 296 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: To Get it done but stafford. Deal is gonna Happen 297 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: It looks. Like miles garrett deal there's gonna be a 298 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: couple of milestones we're gonna see. Coming down, the road 299 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: most importantly his contract has to be redone before they 300 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: can TRADE him or it'll I. 301 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 2: Don't know how, philly's doing that either because they're Paying Big, 302 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 2: money to DeVonta smith Big, money to aj Brown Big, 303 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 2: money to jalen hurts Decent Money. To say kwon barkley 304 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 2: you're Gonna Have to pay jalen carter in. A year 305 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 2: or two i Mean The. 306 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: Problem with miles garrett is it's gonna Have to, be 307 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: post june, One you would. 308 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 2: Think and that's kind of a lot to ask a 309 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 2: team to hold their water on and not do anything. 310 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 4: Else in free agency here's what. 311 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 1: Will happen right payoff but the teams, won't hold their 312 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: water but they'll try and keep they'll try and keep 313 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: it possible if with the deals that they're gonna do 314 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: in the, in the near future there will be some 315 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 1: teams who will make some different decisions because of The 316 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 1: Possibility of. Getting miles garrett structure some contracts have some, guys, 317 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 1: on hold saying, hey if this happens we're gonna do, 318 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: your deal like this and we're gonna redo. Your deal 319 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 1: like this we're gonna do. Your deal like this all 320 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: three of you guys are. Gonna help us out we'll give, 321 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 1: you your money now and then we're gonna. Trade for 322 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: this guy. They'll have those things they'll Have a plan 323 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: post june one to see if they. Can get into 324 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: conversation but there will be some teams who will fall, 325 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: away because of it, but not very. Many not Very Many. 326 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 2: Raven's safety marcus williams is preparing for free agency with 327 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 2: The full expectation. That baltimore releases him a recent contract 328 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 2: restructure Includes a. Significant trigger march thirteenth williams benched last 329 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 2: Season When they slid kyle hamilton back into his position 330 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 2: to fortify the defense and keep them from getting, beat 331 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 2: over the top let alone giving. Up fourth quarter leads 332 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 2: the writing was, on the wall here so he's. Presumably 333 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 2: gonna be released he does. HAVE twenty, career interceptions i 334 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 2: mean he's. NOT a bad player i believe he's a, 335 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 2: former second round pick but for whatever reason just Could 336 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 2: Not execute in zach Orr's defense there in baltimore and found. 337 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 4: Himself, ON the. 338 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: Bench brownie i think you could add ten. Interceptions on, that, 339 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 1: defense oh thanks ten not the twenty that he. Got 340 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 1: as a. 341 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:42,199 Speaker 2: BUST i'll take it i take ten CAREER picks in 342 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 2: the nfl. At five to seven see if you can cash. 343 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 3: That in. 344 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: For, future probably not yeah. 345 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:52,959 Speaker 4: He'll, be out there though he'll be in. A, FLOODED 346 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 4: safety market. 347 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 1: Yeah i mean he's he's gonna. Take a pay cut 348 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 1: but that's the way. It is that. Position i'll say 349 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: this the reason teams kind of rents through those guys 350 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: is it's the entire position is played between the years 351 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: almost the entire position is. Played between the years then 352 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: when you get a, guy who's Physically Gifted, like an 353 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: ed reid then. Those Guys, Show Up, kyle hamilton kyle, 354 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 1: hamilton they show up but the game is in the entire. 355 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: Game is played upstairs That's Why. They Trusted. DAMAR hamlin, damar, 356 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 1: hamlin i mean athletically there's. Six guys out there there's 357 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: six guys out, there, who, better, athletes faster, bigger stronger 358 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 1: all That but they trust damar to be at least 359 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: on the right page and, in the you know. Knowing 360 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: what he's doing that position is about intelligence more so 361 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: than as than except, for the quarterback spot in any 362 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: other position he's he's got to see. It and react 363 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 1: instantaneously that's, why the, adage is you know you can't 364 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: have a bad you can't be a GOOD safety in 365 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: the nfl. Unless you're really smart and. 366 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 4: You were asking, me the other day THAT'S the last 367 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 4: safety i got drafted. 368 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 3: In The. 369 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 2: FIRST round kyle hamilton i. Couldn't think, of him and 370 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 2: yeah and he's. 371 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 4: A pretty. 372 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: Good One he's good and i'll tell you why he. 373 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: Was the fourteenth year why he's good because the guys 374 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: got it. From the neck up. That's why you know 375 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: You Got guys, like notre dame kids MY good friend who, 376 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: I Love and respect mark kelso there were he'll laugh 377 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: at there might have been eight guys on our defense, 378 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: who could, outrun him, but man oh man he got 379 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: a guys lined. 380 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 4: Up and he was Always in the right he. 381 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: Knew what was going so it is a completely intellectual 382 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: exercise as A. Safety in the nfl and, if you've got. 383 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 2: That you can play Miami quarterback prospect cam ward said 384 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 2: he's not gonna throw at. The, Combine THIS weekend Meanwhile 385 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 2: Colorado qb prospect shadurah sanders said He, met with the 386 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 2: raiders who hold, The sixth overall pick so there appears 387 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 2: to be a back a Plan. There for the raiders If, 388 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 2: they don't land Stafford It could be shador sanders with. 389 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 2: The sixth overall pick raiders have three quarterbacks, On, Their, Roster, Already, 390 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 2: carter Bradley gardner minshew and aidan O'Connell. 391 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: For a grand total. Of, one point five yeah. So 392 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: there you are all those. Guys Are career Backups. 393 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 2: East carolina corner chavon ravel said he IS Recovering from 394 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 2: his acl taar says he'll BE ready for. An nfl 395 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 2: training camp he's projected as a late first or. Early, 396 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 2: second round pick obviously the medical exam results will have 397 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 2: a lot to, say about that too in terms of his. 398 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 2: Availability Pass rushing Prospects james Pierce From tennessee And landon 399 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 2: jackson from arkansas tore it. Up and testing yesterday pierce 400 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 2: ran a four, four seven forty time and though his 401 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 2: arms are under thirty three inches and he had a vertical, 402 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 2: of just thirty one it's hard to ignore his seventeen 403 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 2: and a half sacks over the last Two. Seasons for, 404 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 2: the volunteers jackson meanwhile ran a four six eight forty 405 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 2: at sixty six two hundred, and sixty four, pounds and 406 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 2: more impressively had a forty and a. Half inch Vertical 407 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 2: LEAP he in Texas A, and m shamar stewart who 408 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 2: we knew was going to, tear up the combine both. 409 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 2: Had verticals over forty they are only two of four 410 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 2: players over two hundred and sixty pounds to vertical leap. 411 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 2: More than forty inches the other Two In combine History Miles, 412 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 2: garrett and mario williams both the number one picks in. 413 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 4: Their respective draft. 414 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 2: Classes that's the list so some rare athletic ability here 415 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 2: ON Display at. The nfl combine yesterday forty. And, a 416 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 2: Half inches yeah. 417 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 1: AND i'll say This I watched some shamar stuart film 418 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: and he is. He's a freakish athlete but it's almost 419 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: it's like You're looking, at going it's like? What are, 420 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: you doing you know. 421 00:22:58,880 --> 00:22:59,199 Speaker 3: He is. 422 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 1: All, over the place uh he. 423 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 2: Just doesn't look instinctive. 424 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: He doesn't look instinctive it doesn't it's. Not, easy for 425 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: him certainly he's gifted in that there are guys who 426 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 1: are whiffing on the, guy who you know fit. Head 427 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: up on him he's, an incredible talent physically but. He 428 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: does not finish he. Does not see it he does 429 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: not make plays and when. And he's not Productive it's 430 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: hard to he's a little. Chaotic on the field, wherever 431 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: the ball is he may or may. Not be around 432 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: it he, may be. Over here over there. 433 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 4: He's not a guy that's. 434 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: Always around the ball it's the it's a, weird film 435 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 1: to watch. 436 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 2: But you know somebody is going to be seduced. By, 437 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 2: his physical tools. 438 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 1: Yeah and there's also going to be a, coaching staff 439 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: out there maybe a Coaching staff like, the, bills who 440 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: say listen we're gonna get the. 441 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 4: Best out of it they, do have player. 442 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: Development have sorry, development but you know the ceiling for 443 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 1: some players is different than, the ceiling for others and 444 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 1: their strengths and weaknesses show. UP in different ways I Don't, 445 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: KNOW where shamar stewart. I don't know where i. DON'T 446 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: know how. That i don't know we'll here sift how it. 447 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 1: Sifts out with him that's. That's how chaotic is everybody 448 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: thinks he's still going to be a first, round draft 449 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: to us and. 450 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 4: He probably should be the physical tools or elae, he. 451 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: PROBABLY should be but i think he's along The Lines 452 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: of an Isaiah simmons, for the arizona cardon. 453 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 2: Who was a first round pick and really has been. 454 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: Wayward his entire career one of THOSE kind of guys. 455 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 1: Hu maybe who knows he also didn't land. 456 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 2: In a great spot He, gets drafted by arizona which 457 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 2: is not known as, a player development destination and then 458 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 2: He goes to, the giants after that as they try 459 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 2: to fit a square peg in a round hole there 460 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 2: and it didn't really pan out. There, either for it 461 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 2: yeah speaking of, these edge rushing prospects we'll be talking 462 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 2: With our Good friend greg co sell in the second 463 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 2: hour of the show as he joins us here ON 464 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 2: Set at the nfl combine to talk about some of 465 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 2: these edge prospects that he. Has examined on film so 466 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 2: we look forward to that conversation in the second. 467 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 4: Hour of, The Program you. 468 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 2: Know i'm i'm very interested to see the defensive backs 469 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 2: run because We know that the bills have a need 470 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 2: for speed and a lot of these guys. Are, gonna 471 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 2: run fast obviously most of the defensive backs have the, 472 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 2: lowest body fat percentage they're, usually the most. 473 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 4: Athletic so it's no shock that a lot of these 474 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:23,479 Speaker 4: guys are. 475 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 2: Going TO run times but i think there is a 476 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 2: greater premium on speed at the Cornerback position for the 477 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 2: bills than maybe we've ever seen before because you think 478 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 2: about the draft choices of the past and, you've. 479 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 4: Got You Know guys like. 480 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 2: Levi, wallace who was undrafted, Not A speed merchant dane jackson. Not, 481 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 2: a speed merchant, Okay Seventh round pick christian. Bedford's sixth 482 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 2: round pick HE can run but i don't know if 483 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 2: he's a low, four to three guy he's. Four To 484 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 2: Four guy even tredavius white was a. FOUR to four 485 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 2: guy i think with the increased use of man, coverage 486 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 2: lost the league speed is a higher priority now because 487 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 2: you need guys that can. Run, with these receivers. 488 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 1: Yeah and you've got a way how committed you are 489 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: to having larger, guys who are fast to having guys 490 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: who have elite speed who aren't big guys. Or big 491 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 1: enough guys. The fitting your parameters you got to balance 492 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 1: it and who and who you think is going to 493 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,959 Speaker 1: be the, best pro you know and for, whatever reasons, 494 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: you have, we were you know we're going around around 495 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 1: about how these guys have impressed the media and media 496 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: members and, coaching stats probably too with their, presence at the, 497 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 1: podium what they, say how they act kind, of personality 498 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: they have and it. Is it's a thing. It's it's 499 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: a thing and some of these guys have the mentality 500 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: to be. A professional football player, some of, these guys 501 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: you know are barely, able to you know hold it, 502 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: together within. Il money you know so it's that's. Why 503 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: this combine exists they want to look these guys in 504 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 1: the find out what kind, of guy they are because 505 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 1: those interviews can help you decide whether that guy's gonna 506 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: be in your building or that guy's gonna. 507 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 2: Be in the building we are gonna step aside and, 508 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 2: take a break here but, when we come back we're 509 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 2: Gonna Be Joined by mike Golick junior From the gojo 510 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 2: and golic podcast as we talk some news around. The 511 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 2: league with him when We Return Here, on one Bill's 512 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 2: live Presented, By Colt Of Health. 513 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 4: It's buffalo, bill's radiant. 514 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 2: All right BACK Here at the nfl combine One, Final Day, 515 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 2: In Indianapolis chris brown, steve tasker with you and please 516 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 2: to Be Joined Now, by mike golick junior Co host 517 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 2: Of the. Gojo and, golic podcast and uh we'll tap 518 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 2: into your notre dame expertise, in just a second but 519 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 2: we should begin with the, with the headline news which, 520 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 2: for all we know could have seven twists and turns 521 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 2: before we get to. The end of it this stafford, 522 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 2: thing IS very interesting and i think, people on, the 523 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 2: outside you know that don't have boots on THE, ground 524 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 2: necessarily in. La really, understand it they're like the. Guy's 525 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 2: making crazy money why? Does he want more and it's, 526 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 2: just like market value last kick at the cat, At 527 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 2: age thirty seven, and, then, it's like well then what 528 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 2: the hell is The. Problem with the rams it seems 529 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 2: like they know what's on the horizon for them in 530 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 2: terms of big second contracts for a lot of those 531 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 2: defensive players that are going to come up here in. 532 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 2: A couple of years so a long term contract for 533 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 2: matt is just doesn't seem like in The. 534 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 4: Cards, for, THE rams. 535 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 5: Yeah well i think it's it's franchises in different places 536 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 5: right where the teams that we're talking about in the 537 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 5: sort of, love triangle Right Now In the las Vegas 538 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 5: Raiders And, the new york giants they're searching for anything. 539 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 3: Resembling The success. That The rams had the rams got To. 540 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 5: The mountaintop with matthew everything you wanted out of that 541 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 5: trade already. Gotten and then some and he's Been an. 542 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 5: Incredible for sean McVay. Ranson raves about him but they 543 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 5: have that, familiarity inside the building and the One thing 544 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 5: about the, rams is An organization, especially with sean McVay 545 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 5: they would rather be early than late in figuring out 546 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 5: what they're going to, do at that spot and maybe 547 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 5: there's part, of, them that says hey We Understand Given the, 548 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 5: mila john matthew already the style of, play that he 549 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 5: has and the opportunity that we've got here to maybe 550 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 5: start to think about resetting the clock at quarterback in 551 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 5: line with the. 552 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 3: Youth, on OUR roster listen? Would? 553 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,719 Speaker 5: I advise, it NO probably not because i think you 554 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 5: are in a great spot IN. 555 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 3: The way the nfc. 556 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 5: West, is right now yeah to be highly competitive if 557 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 5: everyone's healthy. At the right time but this is an 558 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 5: organization And a leader in sean McVay not afraid to 559 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 5: make a tough decision. 560 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: If it comes, down and you're right everything They've gotten 561 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: out of stafford this last year and anything going forward 562 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: is gravy on top of what they've already, gotten out 563 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: of him and, now flipping it over You're. Heat, if 564 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: You're stafford yeah the raiders got some appeal less of 565 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: an uproot for his family Out out to the west. 566 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: Where they're living now. Brand new head coach you've got 567 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: a young tight end that's, actually doing really well but 568 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: you're moving into a division that is dominated By The. 569 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: Guys in kansas city you've got an up And, COMING 570 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: squad In Denver uh and Jim harbaugh's in la is 571 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: also got. Those guys turned around so that's that division that. 572 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: You might Move, into if you're stafford THEN You GOT. 573 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: The nfc east uh you know for, if you're The, 574 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: guy if you're Stafford What's your preference East? Coast with 575 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: the giants If You, win in new, york you're you. 576 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: Know you're the best what are your thoughts about those 577 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: teams where there were which one would be the best 578 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: fit and which one would be more of an immediate 579 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: win both in the win, Call, HIM in personally. 580 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 5: Yeah i think it's interesting because You Look in the 581 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 5: new York Side of that malik neighbors and what he 582 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 5: showed you early on that he can do. As a 583 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 5: receiving threaten it's No, disrespect to brock howers who impacts 584 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 5: the game in so many ways And had an Offensive 585 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 5: rookie of the year type season were it not for 586 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 5: one of the quarterbacks being as prominently. Featured as he 587 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 5: was but there's nothing that can tilt the field like 588 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 5: an outside receiver that, can have the impact especially with 589 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 5: Speed The way. That molakue neighbors, DOES that, being said 590 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 5: i mean and without being able to know how important 591 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 5: the proximity with family is and what their, APPETITE. 592 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 3: Is to move i Would Still. 593 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 5: PROBABLY lean las Vegas I just think new york is 594 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 5: such a long way away and you could be dealing 595 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 5: with if things, don't go well again another Coaching Change 596 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 5: there with brian daball walking back. 597 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 3: Into this difficult. 598 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: Situation and there's also the state tax that you. Have 599 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: to talk about two Years State. 600 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 3: Tax in las vega. 601 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: You're, gonna sign a deal sign safety signs. A, two 602 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: year deal yeah. For one hundred million that's that's eight 603 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: digits right off The top, that. 604 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 5: It's and listen if you're wanting to get your just reward, 605 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 5: and what you deserve, like fifty million dollars we All 606 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 5: hear That, in ooh and ah we saw how much 607 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 5: the salary. Cap, just went UP right there are i 608 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 5: think nine quarterbacks making fifty plus million dollars. A YEAR right, 609 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 5: now and i, MEAN of that nine i don't know 610 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 5: how many, of them you'd say on their best day 611 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 5: Are Automatically better than matthew stafford, even at this point. 612 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: Even to the guys who are aren't, on, that, List, 613 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: either right Exactly yeah So like josh, like josh, like yes, like. 614 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 2: Yeah so, YEAH speaking of Quarterbacks i feel like minnesota 615 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 2: is in. A very weird spot it's a good problem 616 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 2: to have because you. Have two possible options but you've 617 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 2: seen this, before in the, league where You. KNOW they 618 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 2: sign uh i Don't want to call donald a retread 619 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 2: because he's clearly better than that with the. Year that he, had, but, 620 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 2: a guy, yeah journeyman, that's yeah thank. You that's probably 621 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 2: better you sign a journeyman. As, a fail, safe McCarthy 622 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 2: you know, tears up his. Knee he can't play, and 623 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 2: now your plan which Was probably let's, play donald a 624 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 2: year get, McCarthy up to speed and, if he looks good. 625 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 2: We'll plug him in, And now you know donald's going to. 626 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 2: Be a free, agent and it's like we still don't. 627 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 2: Know anything about McCarthy they know. More than we do 628 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 2: But you, know what i'm saying the evidence isn't there 629 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 2: on THE field. At the nfl level how? Do you 630 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 2: square that, If you're you, know mensa and, uh you 631 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 2: know koc how are you how? Are you squaring that 632 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 2: Because you, know what donald is you're not. Sure what 633 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 2: McCarthy is it just seems like, THE risk reward. 634 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 3: Is i don't. 635 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,479 Speaker 5: Know It's pretty sizable what i'd say is you also 636 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 5: understand what, your infrastructure is there and that's part of 637 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 5: the reason that you got The best out of sam 638 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 5: in a way that other organizations weren't in position to 639 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 5: because you know what you've got around, him in That Offense, 640 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 5: led by justin jefferson in a receiving corp that's. Got plenty, 641 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 5: of options, you know when healthy what those tackles. Can 642 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 5: be the world how Different It got when christian darisol 643 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 5: Went down him and brian O'Neill in the way that 644 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 5: they can. Balance that thing Out but then with kevin. 645 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 5: O'Connell's the, play caller i mean all Of that helped get. 646 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 5: Donald to that point so you've got. TO have a 647 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 5: number i think there's a number somewhere that could make 648 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 5: sense to say you bring him back on, a shorter 649 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 5: term deal especially. Front load THE guarantee, so it's i 650 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 5: mean everyone throw around the deal That We just Offered Daniel, 651 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 5: jones in new york but something palatable like that unless you, 652 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 5: know to your, POINT behind the scenes jj McCarthy is 653 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 5: where we need him to be recovering. Physically from that 654 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 5: injury so he's gonna be ready to get some of 655 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 5: this offseason in time to be the guy hit the 656 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 5: ground running the way it seemed like he was trending 657 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 5: towards early. In camp last year you've got to know, 658 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:21,280 Speaker 5: that behind. 659 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 2: The scenes all right so from the, other side of 660 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 2: that here's, the Rub for me because donald putting up 661 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 2: a monster year can probably convince some other team. That 662 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 2: is quarterback needy they could probably his agent could probably 663 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 2: get one of those teams to offer up a four 664 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 2: year contract or even, a five Year contract where the 665 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 2: vikings are probably looking at a bridge deal because they 666 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 2: eventually want to get to McCarthy, if, you're his agent 667 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 2: like but, at the same, time to your point, at 668 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,800 Speaker 2: the same, time, to your, point though it's like is 669 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 2: he gonna look as good somewhere else as, He, does 670 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 2: with O'Connell like, that's the. 671 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 1: Real question is is donald crazy to leave? 672 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 5: For, The, right number no like there's always a number 673 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 5: that someone can put in Front, of, you that like 674 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 5: listen no one in this league is. 675 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 3: Guaranteed the life of any. Contract. 676 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 5: That, they're on here now you're guaranteed the number that's 677 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 5: on the. Page in that column and so if, SOMEONE 678 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 5: wants To again i get sam. WAS the first rounder 679 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 5: i get he's been around and made a, bunch of 680 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 5: money already but man to be able to cash into 681 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 5: what could be your last time to Do This, if 682 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 5: you're sam darnold knowing what's coming Down, THE pipeline in 683 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 5: minnesota i think if you're in a number where, all 684 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 5: of a sudden the guarantees are getting close to that 685 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 5: ninety to one hundred million dollar range and you are 686 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 5: getting three or four years of security in the, way 687 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 5: that that's built. That's tough to ignore knowing, like, you said, 688 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 5: that yes environments better you'd love to be in that Locker, 689 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,240 Speaker 5: room culture in minnesota but that money. 690 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 3: Is Hard, To ignore. 691 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 4: All right So We've got. 692 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 2: The, miles Garrett thing obviously the bills are in need, 693 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 2: of a pass rusher an, alpha male pass rusher. 694 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 3: That is everybody's. 695 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 1: In need of mind but the issue. 696 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 2: Here sits more with cleveland and the thirty six million. 697 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 2: Dollars dead cap hit now we Hear reports that the 698 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 2: eagles could be in on Trying to acquire Gam, it, 699 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 2: starts with cleveland. THOUGH and, they're not I Mean you heard, 700 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 2: andrew berry this week. He's not moving off when does 701 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 2: he give up, the ship and, say you know what 702 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 2: he doesn't, Want, to be here like? When does that 703 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,839 Speaker 2: happen because you're getting, close to you know. The nitty 704 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,400 Speaker 2: gritty here the league here starts in. 705 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,879 Speaker 5: Two, WEEKS pretty much oh i, think to, your point 706 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 5: it happens and it's got to before the draft because 707 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 5: if you're, going to recoup that one of the things 708 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 5: you want is A significant, amount of godfather. 709 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 3: Offer WHICH he's. 710 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 5: Worth and i Think the timeline the browns, are on 711 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 5: right now considering the, way they botch quarterback it would 712 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 5: behoove them to, reset, everything and say hey, we miss 713 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 5: time this we. Missed out on this let's get what 714 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 5: we can Out Of it while miles garrett is still 715 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 5: at the, peak of his powers and then go on 716 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 5: from there and make sure we've got that. 717 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 3: Going into the draft. 718 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 1: One of the other things going on with This Draft 719 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 1: is the competition, committee met and you as, a former 720 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 1: offensive lineman, they're, thinking about saying yeah you can't do that. 721 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 1: Push push thing anymore what, HE thoughts, About that. 722 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 5: I am i'm fine if they want to, get rid of. 723 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 5: IT they do that i think they'll just you, know, 724 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 5: limit you know, guys can you know can't like aid 725 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,360 Speaker 5: the runner anymore and just be more specific in. HOW 726 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 5: they call that i know, they've struggled with that and that's. 727 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 3: Been part of the. 728 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 5: Issue to begin with maybe put other parameters and how 729 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 5: you can do things. Formation wise with that however, they 730 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 5: came about it if they wanted to truly, Get rid of. 731 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 5: IT i'd be fine i just think the reasoning for 732 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,799 Speaker 5: getting rid, of It Sounds soft like green bay ends 733 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,359 Speaker 5: up getting out it as the ones that were coming 734 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 5: out and pointing to the fact that it's not a, 735 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 5: play that requires skill even though there's only really two 736 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 5: teams that do it at A high Level, In, Philadelphia and. 737 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 5: Buffalo like i'm sorry having a quarterback, that's a battering. 738 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,879 Speaker 5: Ram that's a choice having an, offensive line that big 739 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 5: that's how. You build your team if another team wants 740 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:42,959 Speaker 5: to build a team that's got a quarterback. 741 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 3: With the, howitzer for an arm we could spread it. 742 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 3: All over. The place that's fine that's the. 743 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 5: Strategy that they've employed why are we gonna knock one 744 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 5: or two teams when we move? 745 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:51,959 Speaker 3: The extra point back it's because everyone. 746 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 5: Was converting in a ninety nine percent credit again and 747 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 5: it made the play. On fun this one we've got 748 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 5: a couple of. People doing, it better. That's strategy. That's 749 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 5: Football yeah yeah james cook. 750 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 2: Obviously wants his money there have Been talks with the 751 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 2: bills and it seems as though both sides are committed to, 752 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,320 Speaker 2: working towards a, compromise a middle. Ground if, you will 753 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 2: to me the fifteen million dollar number he threw out 754 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,360 Speaker 2: is just public posturing because if you, look at the 755 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 2: comps there's no way he's getting. Fifteen million a year 756 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,919 Speaker 2: he has one hundred fewer, carries this past season which 757 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,280 Speaker 2: was a, good season for him one Hundred, fewer carries 758 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 2: than saquon one Hundred Fewer. Carries than josh jacobs one 759 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 2: guy got, twelve and a half the. Other guy got 760 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 2: twelve they were enormously. More productive Than him and the 761 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 2: bills have a Third Down, back in ty johnson they 762 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 2: have The Young. Kid in ray davis they're. Gonna manage 763 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 2: his carries he's never gonna be a. Three hundred carry 764 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 2: back i'm thinking ten and a half to twelve is 765 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,959 Speaker 2: probably where they're coming in. For average annual salary can't 766 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 2: you structure it in such a way, To make him 767 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,439 Speaker 2: happy like you sign him to like a thirty three 768 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 2: million dollar, deal for three years so it's eleven, million 769 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 2: average annual value but twenty five in, the first two 770 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 2: years he's getting twelve and. 771 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 3: A half a year can't you? 772 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:02,879 Speaker 5: Do SOMETHING like that and i think we've seen that 773 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 5: kind of bear out in. The last few years they'll 774 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 5: pay the people have done just inch a little bit 775 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 5: past what the franchise had would be frontload it to 776 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 5: your point and do it while. These guys are young that's, 777 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 5: the other, Advantage here is right getting these guys, in 778 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 5: their mid twenties their mid to late twenties for running 779 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,840 Speaker 5: backs in this position we know. Is the PRIME years, 780 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 5: and so i, think like you, said in most negotiations 781 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 5: that first number out's the trial balloon that's there to 782 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 5: kind of shock in, all, everyone will go well of course. 783 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 5: He won't get that so when you come, into this 784 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 5: other number now it feels. A little bit better james. 785 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,239 Speaker 5: IS a great player i want to see, every guy 786 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,839 Speaker 5: get paid but that number was always. Going to be unrealistic, 787 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,320 Speaker 5: KNOWING what YOU said i think i saw the usage 788 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,360 Speaker 5: rates the other day for all those other backses up 789 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 5: around seventy five percent for him is below fifty and 790 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:42,799 Speaker 5: that's just not going to be. 791 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 3: What people are. Paying we're paying. 792 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,720 Speaker 5: Weapons you've got to be a weapon much. More available 793 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 5: than that if you're going, to command fifteen years what. 794 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 1: Do you think is going to happen at the? Top 795 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 1: Of this draft think tennessee is the. TEAM that picks 796 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 1: it i. 797 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,840 Speaker 5: THINK they pick it i think they still now that 798 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 5: we've heard that they're not, going To Do, SURGERY and 799 00:39:58,239 --> 00:39:59,799 Speaker 5: abdul carter i think he's going to. GO number one 800 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,400 Speaker 5: over i think having a quality, pass rush like that my. 801 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 5: God with ONE arm the things i saw Him Do 802 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 5: to The notre dame FIGHTING irish team that i love 803 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,359 Speaker 5: was enough to. Make me a believer and so now 804 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 5: that we know that surgery and we hopefully won't Affect his, 805 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:13,839 Speaker 5: WORKOUT at pro day i think that, will be the. 806 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 2: Guy especially Since They're already allowing harold landry to engage 807 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 2: in trade conversations with other teams or. At least his agency. 808 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 2: He's out the door they need that guy. Even, more 809 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,319 Speaker 2: than ever mike. Appreciate the time here at the, end 810 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 2: of the week safe travels to get back home and 811 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 2: maybe we'll catch up with a little bit. Later, on 812 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,359 Speaker 2: the offseason awesome thanks. For Having me Guy That's mike 813 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 2: cool if. Junior joining us here we'll take a break 814 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:35,919 Speaker 2: and be Back With More, on one Bill's Live. 815 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 4: Presented By Colida Health. 816 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 6: It's buffalo, bill's radio. 817 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 2: All right Back here on A Friday Edition At One 818 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,399 Speaker 2: bill's live COMPANY Alive from The. Nfl combine in indianapolis 819 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,840 Speaker 2: and after All that talk about matt step pretty resigned, 820 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 2: on a restructured deal He's. 821 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 4: Back with the. 822 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:07,880 Speaker 2: Rams so done Deal lucille and The raiders and the 823 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 2: giants Must GO on. To plan b now and we're 824 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 2: Already hearing that the giants Are Interested, in one aaron rodgers. 825 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,360 Speaker 4: Who is yet to Be. Released by the Jets he. 826 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,920 Speaker 2: Is still, jets property all right do you think they 827 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,400 Speaker 2: swing a trade the two. 828 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 4: Teams across the. Street from one another. 829 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,279 Speaker 1: I'd let him. Become, a free agent. 830 00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 4: Yeah you got an enormous they're Gonna eat. Cap on rogers. 831 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 1: Moving i'd let him i'd, let HIM go, Unless now 832 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 1: i know i'd let him. Be a free agent, you 833 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 1: get him cheaper, you, GET him, cheaper. 834 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 4: Probably i mean Yeah. 835 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 3: If, you're The. 836 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,799 Speaker 1: Giants Yeah the giants the jets will trade him for 837 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 1: a seventh round draft pick. Right or future considerations but then. 838 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 1: You're on the hook this dead. Cap, is forty nine. Yeah, 839 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 1: don't do it yeah you're not gonna. Help those guys. 840 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 3: HIT this is. 841 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,800 Speaker 2: Great i love this his cap hit if he plays 842 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 2: is twenty three and A. Half for the jets his 843 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,800 Speaker 2: cap hit if he's moved off the rosters. Forty nine million, 844 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 2: dollars Whoa, they yeah oh jets. You gotta say it 845 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,920 Speaker 2: they they still Got To. Figure out DeVante adams. 846 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,719 Speaker 1: They went, all in, on him, and. HE you know 847 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 1: deferred i don't know. What you, call it, it's just. 848 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:38,399 Speaker 1: Oh Yeah, getting it the, rams in my. OPINION did 849 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,479 Speaker 1: it right. I mean you can't i know it's working 850 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,279 Speaker 1: out for, him and all, THAT and right now i 851 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,840 Speaker 1: don't know. What the deal is they Signed the restructure 852 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 1: with stafford in the game. Two years or whatever, you 853 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 1: got a first you. Got first, of all of course 854 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 1: you have, to find a guy but you don't pay 855 00:42:55,600 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 1: the guy until. You find the guy, and all, these Teams, 856 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:08,640 Speaker 1: you know The, browns So, the browns the jets and 857 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 1: there are others that just they just. Don't get it right. 858 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,880 Speaker 2: So here you go stafford is the first domino, in 859 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 2: the quarterback market Going, back to the rams. Not going 860 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,960 Speaker 2: anywhere else So, now you have donald. 861 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:22,719 Speaker 1: That's The next? 862 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 3: Guy does donald go Does He? Go to Las? 863 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 2: Vegas to the jets I'm, Trying To remember donald pete 864 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 2: carroll was already Gone by the time donald WAS, the, 865 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 2: Quarterback at usc right, carol, was already. 866 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah long Gone. 867 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 2: Cousins if, the falcons release them they say they're not 868 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 2: going to or At Least that's what raheem. 869 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,280 Speaker 4: Morris said this week, but if he's released? 870 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 3: Where? 871 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,960 Speaker 2: Does he go cleveland Because They don't have deshaun watson 872 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,680 Speaker 2: with it after he. Ruptured his achilles again and then 873 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,400 Speaker 2: What's Going on With Russell? Wilson and? Justin fields? 874 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:00,759 Speaker 3: Who? Stays who goes. 875 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 4: Yeah those are those are the other qbs. 876 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:08,120 Speaker 3: The. 877 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:12,680 Speaker 1: Musical chairs get yeah donald is now the centerpiece. Of 878 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 1: the entire conversation cousins is probably. Second on that list 879 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 1: and depending On Your thoughts On Russ, wilson or, justin 880 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 1: fields you know you can figure out what you want 881 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 1: to do with. One of those guys but those are 882 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,320 Speaker 1: those are the four names. That are out there donald 883 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 1: having coming off his obviously, by far and away his best, 884 00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:37,240 Speaker 1: season as a pro after being an afterthought, at three different, Teams, 885 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,719 Speaker 1: you gotta think okay what do we gotta do to get? 886 00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,440 Speaker 1: That out of, him in, art building You know if 887 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,560 Speaker 1: the raiders are Sitting There looking at sam donald or 888 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:47,920 Speaker 1: you're you're Getting. 889 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 2: Their, offensive coordinators trip kelly. 890 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,520 Speaker 1: You're gonna Tell me that the raiders are the organization 891 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:57,080 Speaker 1: that is going to Cultivate The. GREATNESS in sam donald, i, 892 00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 1: would lean NO Right as. 893 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 2: Would I, AND if i'm donald i want To see 894 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,840 Speaker 2: what the vikings are. Willing to offer me my fear 895 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,040 Speaker 2: for his sake is they want to get the McCarthy thing. 896 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,000 Speaker 2: Rolling at some point, and, as we know yes he's, 897 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,919 Speaker 2: a first round pick but do you even want to pay, 898 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,440 Speaker 2: that guy fifth round fifth year option money before you? 899 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 2: Know what, He is probably not so you've got to 900 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 2: find out somewhere between year three and four what. You 901 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,839 Speaker 2: have in, McCarthy so to me that says the only 902 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,960 Speaker 2: thing They're going to offer donald is a two year 903 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:30,880 Speaker 2: bridge deal. 904 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,080 Speaker 1: Or a three year deal. Maybe something like that, And 905 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,600 Speaker 1: you know what, darnald may take, it because then again 906 00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 1: if he keeps hitting it, out of the park at the, 907 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:38,919 Speaker 1: end of that deal he's. 908 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:40,960 Speaker 4: Still, he's twenty seven yeah. 909 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,760 Speaker 1: He's still just, thirty and these days you've got another 910 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:48,239 Speaker 1: half a dozen years of productivity if you haven't, had 911 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,760 Speaker 1: Any major injuries which darnald is. Not at this, point, 912 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,239 Speaker 1: So he's thinking well. I'll get another one. I'll get 913 00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,440 Speaker 1: Another deal, so the bridge deal if he's, making, like, 914 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 1: whatever forty. 915 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,399 Speaker 2: Well yeah because he. Knows he can Flourish he, can 916 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,759 Speaker 2: flourish dar O'Connell so who's. A master play caller. 917 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 1: SO there, You go i mean darnold. May take that 918 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:10,440 Speaker 1: deal then that Leaves A guy like kirk cousins to 919 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:17,839 Speaker 1: Be go to what vegas that Seems A fit with 920 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:23,440 Speaker 1: pete carroll as the leader and the energetic one that 921 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,640 Speaker 1: seems like it might Be A. Fit with kirk cousins 922 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,720 Speaker 1: but that's a tough, division to. COME into, it. 923 00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:33,080 Speaker 2: Says I Mean the ESPN's adam Schefter is reporting the 924 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:37,719 Speaker 2: Giants Are looking into aaron rodgers along. WITH all the 925 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:42,799 Speaker 2: quarterbacks i just. Love how that's Worded They're looking into 926 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,040 Speaker 2: aaron rodgers and every other veteran. 927 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:46,680 Speaker 4: Quarterback, with, a pulse yes. 928 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,640 Speaker 1: Yeah they gotta that they gotta solve that they've got. 929 00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,160 Speaker 1: To get a guy this is, one of, those things 930 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 1: you know the conspiracy theories people, tell, you out there 931 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,600 Speaker 1: well and the lead's gonna he's gonna step in behind 932 00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,480 Speaker 1: the scenes and make sure that somebody Gets funneled to 933 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 1: the giant, so they, STOPPED sucking. 934 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:03,279 Speaker 3: YOU know. 935 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,120 Speaker 2: I just I just don't think rogers is a good idea, 936 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:15,880 Speaker 2: because HE'S high, MAINTENANCE and i look i like To 937 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:17,880 Speaker 2: Think we know brian davill a little. BIT better than 938 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:22,040 Speaker 2: most i can't see a high maintenance guy. Being someone 939 00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:22,520 Speaker 2: that dabile. 940 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,520 Speaker 1: That that's not happening they're gonna wait till He gets. 941 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,440 Speaker 1: Released post june one then they'll talk to him and 942 00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,520 Speaker 1: let him come in and compete with. 943 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:32,920 Speaker 4: Whoever else they have aaron is. 944 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 1: Not a good leader he's not. A good team captain 945 00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:36,160 Speaker 1: he's he's. 946 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,800 Speaker 2: The biggest mistake the giants Made Was obviously signing daniel 947 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:43,080 Speaker 2: jones to that extension for forty something million after a. 948 00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,759 Speaker 2: Fifteen touchdown past season that was what. Are gonna were 949 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,920 Speaker 2: insanity then they doubled down. And, didn't draft one. 950 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,879 Speaker 1: Yes that's, the problem was okay because he didn't even 951 00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,440 Speaker 1: hedge the guy they made they made, the playoffs that, year, 952 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,480 Speaker 1: and they think okay we. Can, Build On it right 953 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 1: daniel jones will get better as we found. Out he 954 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,440 Speaker 1: was regressing and, but then you know they got. It out, 955 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 1: of contract you're right they they did not bring. In 956 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,680 Speaker 1: AN air apparent. Now i get it you just signed 957 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,319 Speaker 1: the guide to a deal and then you draft a guy. 958 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,800 Speaker 1: YOU'RE gonna have all i don't care Whatever you've got 959 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:19,759 Speaker 1: to you've got to have, a strong plan there. And 960 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,640 Speaker 1: they did not, that's heck the organization that's. What they 961 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,960 Speaker 1: didn't do, and that's, you know oh. 962 00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:27,640 Speaker 4: Well we'll see if. 963 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 2: It costs people jobs we gotta take a Break here 964 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,959 Speaker 2: because when, hour number two begins it will be done 965 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,880 Speaker 2: With Our, good friend greg CROSSEL Senior. Producer from nfl 966 00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:41,479 Speaker 2: films gonna be Talking edge rushers with. Greg this time, 967 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,759 Speaker 2: around in successive weeks we will discuss with him other 968 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,600 Speaker 2: position groups, in the draft class but edge rushers and 969 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,000 Speaker 2: that discussion. Coming your Way Next Here on one Bills 970 00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:51,279 Speaker 2: live Presented by colida Of Health And. 971 00:48:51,320 --> 00:50:11,640 Speaker 6: S Buffalo Bill's Radio. 972 00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:40,719 Speaker 1: The one Bills Live, Presented by kalida health. 973 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,040 Speaker 2: Hour Number, two on a friday as this is the 974 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,879 Speaker 2: final day of OUR Coverage Of the nfl Scouting. Combine Here, 975 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,759 Speaker 2: In Indie chris brown, steve tasker with you and please 976 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:55,240 Speaker 2: to be Joined by a regular friday visitors the SHOW Senior, 977 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,400 Speaker 2: Producer From nfl films great cotelle on site in. Person 978 00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,919 Speaker 2: in the, flesh there you go ready to talk. Edge 979 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,360 Speaker 2: prospects this week we'll be doing a Different position group with, 980 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:09,239 Speaker 2: greg in successive fridays but for now we start on 981 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:10,480 Speaker 2: The edge where the bills do. 982 00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:12,839 Speaker 4: Have a positional. 983 00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:16,960 Speaker 2: Need we're not really thinking there's a Great chance that 984 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,319 Speaker 2: von miller. Remains in the fold he represents an eight 985 00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,799 Speaker 2: and a half million dollar cap savings if they decide to. 986 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,160 Speaker 2: Move on from him he turns thirty six. Years old 987 00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:30,520 Speaker 2: next month so the edge rushing component they're gonna. Need 988 00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:34,080 Speaker 2: to add there so let's. Dive, right, in here greg 989 00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:38,839 Speaker 2: first give me your thoughts on the, group of edge 990 00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,160 Speaker 2: rushers at least through. The first two days do you 991 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:42,840 Speaker 2: think it's? A? RELATIVELY strong. 992 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:46,319 Speaker 7: GROUP yeah I do i mean i think the one 993 00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,760 Speaker 7: thing people have to remember is that no one really 994 00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:53,719 Speaker 7: comes in. As a finished, product So and again. The bills? 995 00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,640 Speaker 7: Are drafting what's? Thirty is it thirty so. Assuming they, 996 00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:00,480 Speaker 7: stay there you know this is a draft there's a 997 00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,879 Speaker 7: sense that there's not, thirty first round players, which there 998 00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:07,959 Speaker 7: never are but because it's, a first round pick there's 999 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,560 Speaker 7: always a sense, with, the fans that hey this guy's 1000 00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:12,440 Speaker 7: got to come in and be a, big factor right 1001 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:17,479 Speaker 7: away and that may or. May not be true there's 1002 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,920 Speaker 7: CERTAIN guys, that obviously i Like you. Know that i've 1003 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:23,160 Speaker 7: done i've done a good. Number, of edge players overall 1004 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,160 Speaker 7: this would be considered a, pretty solid class though of 1005 00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:30,319 Speaker 7: guys THAT will. Be quality nfl players we. Don't know 1006 00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,719 Speaker 7: what level, some might be stars some might, just be 1007 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,920 Speaker 7: really solid but it's a good group when you watch 1008 00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:37,279 Speaker 7: their college tape. 1009 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,359 Speaker 1: Because of the production or because OF their traits or. 1010 00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:41,840 Speaker 3: I tend to. 1011 00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:44,840 Speaker 7: That's a great, QUESTION by the way i tend to 1012 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,040 Speaker 7: really look at traits and. Attributes MORE than anything but, 1013 00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,640 Speaker 7: i will say this, if a, guy has you know, 1014 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,719 Speaker 7: VERY very little production i think you have to think 1015 00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,439 Speaker 7: hard about that because unless the guy is maybe twenty 1016 00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,520 Speaker 7: years old and there are some young, players in this 1017 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,719 Speaker 7: draft unless you feel he, just hasn't really developed or 1018 00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:06,040 Speaker 7: that he's coachable in a certain way to really, help 1019 00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:10,520 Speaker 7: with his development it's not too often that a guy 1020 00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:14,200 Speaker 7: has very little college production and then all of A sudden. 1021 00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:18,600 Speaker 7: Has great, nfl, production, more, commonly, sorry yeah no no it, 1022 00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:20,800 Speaker 7: Would Be. This guy shamar stewart. 1023 00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,400 Speaker 3: He's the most fascinating guy. 1024 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,800 Speaker 1: Right, because of the traits and you watch him on 1025 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,239 Speaker 1: film and he's like all its like he doesn't even care. 1026 00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:28,480 Speaker 3: Where. 1027 00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,279 Speaker 7: The, ball is no well it's funny because two weeks 1028 00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,319 Speaker 7: Ago At either the East west, OR the senior ball 1029 00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,799 Speaker 7: i forget, which one he attended but he weighed two 1030 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,040 Speaker 7: eighty one at the combine he, weighed two sixty seven 1031 00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:40,680 Speaker 7: so he lost fourteen pounds. 1032 00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:41,600 Speaker 3: Trying, to run fast. 1033 00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,560 Speaker 7: Yeah which he did, but the thing is when you 1034 00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,840 Speaker 7: watch his tape. HE runs fast anyway i mean he made. 1035 00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,840 Speaker 3: Plays where he. Looked like a safety, he is. 1036 00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:54,000 Speaker 7: A freakish freakish athlete but when you watch him play, 1037 00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:57,080 Speaker 7: and rush the quarterback he doesn't really know how to 1038 00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,799 Speaker 7: rush the, quarterback at this point in terms, of using 1039 00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:03,160 Speaker 7: his hands in terms of. Setting up offensive tackles so 1040 00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,319 Speaker 7: Are those. Things theoretically steve, teachable yes they are but. 1041 00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:11,120 Speaker 7: You just don't know but. They are theoretically teachable but 1042 00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,760 Speaker 7: there's no question. He's a freakish athlete. 1043 00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:18,120 Speaker 2: Somebody's gonna get seduced by his physical traits and take 1044 00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,240 Speaker 2: him and say we, can, develop that guy. 1045 00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,160 Speaker 3: Right, and you know, What it may work it, may 1046 00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:22,960 Speaker 3: be great might. 1047 00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,280 Speaker 7: BUT there's, NO question i mean i just remember watching 1048 00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:30,479 Speaker 7: him run down some players from sideline to sideline and then, having, 1049 00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,280 Speaker 7: to check that well this guy's two hundred, and eighty, One, pounds. 1050 00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:34,320 Speaker 4: All right yeah tell me What You think Of. 1051 00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:38,560 Speaker 2: James pierced at, tennessee ran fast yesterday but short on, 1052 00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:42,359 Speaker 2: the arm length, yep so you know from a not, an, 1053 00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:48,160 Speaker 2: ideal measurable edge right but. Has speed to burn seventeen 1054 00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:49,239 Speaker 2: and a half sacks the Last. 1055 00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:49,400 Speaker 3: Two. 1056 00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:50,840 Speaker 4: Seasons at tennessee. 1057 00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,520 Speaker 7: Yeah and you know what what struck me YESTERDAY seeing 1058 00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:55,480 Speaker 7: him and i, was in the dome is he? 1059 00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:59,440 Speaker 3: Looked skinny to me do you have his? What? He, 1060 00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:03,200 Speaker 3: weighed in yes yeah because he. 1061 00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,719 Speaker 7: Looked skinny to me but the, point is TO me 1062 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:07,120 Speaker 7: he's what i would describe as. 1063 00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:08,080 Speaker 3: A runway edge. 1064 00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:11,040 Speaker 7: Rusher he needs space he needs to be what they 1065 00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:15,480 Speaker 7: call a. Wide nine defensive end he needs runway space, 1066 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:20,880 Speaker 7: because he's. A speed velocity rusher he does have on tape, 1067 00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,560 Speaker 7: some power you know there have been times where he 1068 00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:27,400 Speaker 7: has speed to power, and he's shown that. But he 1069 00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,359 Speaker 7: needs room he's not a guy that's going to. Win 1070 00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:31,920 Speaker 7: in tight quarters. 1071 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,399 Speaker 4: Two forty five is what He, weighed in. 1072 00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:37,720 Speaker 3: At okay, so he looked thinner. But he's six five that's. 1073 00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:39,680 Speaker 2: Not a lot of meat on. A six five frame, right's. 1074 00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,719 Speaker 1: A slender build and you could see, his build, look 1075 00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:47,839 Speaker 1: slender You Know like, not greg. Russeau, Slender, but slender right, 1076 00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:51,480 Speaker 1: yeah give us another. Give us another name THAT. 1077 00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:52,319 Speaker 3: The guy who. 1078 00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,839 Speaker 7: I FIND really interesting and i watched his tape last 1079 00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,080 Speaker 7: summer When he led the big Ten, in sacks AT 1080 00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,439 Speaker 7: purdue and then i watched his tape this Year WHEN 1081 00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:03,000 Speaker 7: he transferred texas a and. M is nick scouting now 1082 00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,400 Speaker 7: he came. IN a little lighter i think he weighed in, 1083 00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,839 Speaker 7: the high two sixties where he looked like a two 1084 00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:11,040 Speaker 7: hundred and eighty pound guy when, You watched his film but. 1085 00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:15,080 Speaker 7: He looked really good he actually has a sense of how. 1086 00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,480 Speaker 7: To use his hands he has a sense of how to. 1087 00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:21,040 Speaker 7: Set up offensive tackles he's a little more advanced and 1088 00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:24,560 Speaker 7: refined for. A college pass rusher HE'S a player that 1089 00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:28,200 Speaker 7: i could SEE getting to the nfl and really HIS 1090 00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,120 Speaker 7: game advancing because i think he has, an idea right 1091 00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,480 Speaker 7: now and obviously you always need more to learn when you. 1092 00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:34,480 Speaker 3: Get to the next level and you're. 1093 00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:38,399 Speaker 7: Playing AGAINST better players but i think he definitely knows 1094 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,239 Speaker 7: what it means to have a plan and. 1095 00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,440 Speaker 3: To do the work SO he's a. Player i really 1096 00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:43,880 Speaker 3: liked do. 1097 00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,719 Speaker 2: You call him speed of power or what kind? 1098 00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:48,960 Speaker 3: Of he? Edge GUY is he. 1099 00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,360 Speaker 7: He's i think he in a sense can be both, 1100 00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,239 Speaker 7: if HE can develop because i remember watching his tape 1101 00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:56,160 Speaker 7: last summer when he let the big Ten and sacks 1102 00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:57,160 Speaker 7: at purdue and. 1103 00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,200 Speaker 3: He ran through guys. He attacked guy's chests. 1104 00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:01,920 Speaker 2: Now here's, the second question here, and by the way 1105 00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:06,840 Speaker 2: he weighed in a. Two, fifty seven down yeah. 1106 00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:07,000 Speaker 4: He's obviously on The. 1107 00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:10,680 Speaker 2: Other side of stuart how do you evaluate the tape 1108 00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:14,240 Speaker 2: when you have another premier talent, on the other side 1109 00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,239 Speaker 2: knowing time and again there are going to be one 1110 00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,239 Speaker 2: on ones for one, of those two guys how do 1111 00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,960 Speaker 2: you factor in their playing production when you know there's 1112 00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,600 Speaker 2: a premier player. On the, other edge, I'm talking you know. 1113 00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:27,040 Speaker 2: STUART on one side. 1114 00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:29,200 Speaker 3: I would argue that. Scouron's the, premier player all, Right. 1115 00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:31,520 Speaker 2: Well that's fine but so when, You're looking at them 1116 00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,040 Speaker 2: i'm just wondering what kind of discerning high do you 1117 00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,279 Speaker 2: give them when you know there's a premiere player on 1118 00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,000 Speaker 2: the other side that that opponent has to. 1119 00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:38,920 Speaker 3: Worry, About it too. 1120 00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:40,880 Speaker 7: Right HERE'S here's the way. I look at, It that 1121 00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,640 Speaker 7: for me brownie is not a FACTOR because in the 1122 00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:47,200 Speaker 7: nfl you have to. WIN one, on once i mean think. 1123 00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,839 Speaker 7: Of it this way go Back, to the super bowl 1124 00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,480 Speaker 7: and this was the. Case All season long jalen connor, 1125 00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,920 Speaker 7: more often than not the center on opposing Offenses Would SLIDE. 1126 00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,520 Speaker 7: To jalen cotter R So that left milton. Williams one 1127 00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,760 Speaker 7: on one you got to win. The, ONE on, ones 1128 00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:03,520 Speaker 7: now i mean if you have a guy on the 1129 00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:05,719 Speaker 7: other side that doesn't win, the one on. Ones it 1130 00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:09,400 Speaker 7: doesn't matter so it does you WANT to? See, Or 1131 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:12,600 Speaker 7: i do anyway maybe reasonable, people DISAGREE on this but 1132 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,560 Speaker 7: i want to see him rush the quarterback against OFFENSIVE 1133 00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:17,240 Speaker 7: tackles and then i look. 1134 00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:19,480 Speaker 3: How he does it you know, what his traits are. 1135 00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,160 Speaker 7: What HIS attributes are do i think that what they 1136 00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,720 Speaker 7: are translates to the league and he can be SUCCESSFUL 1137 00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,840 Speaker 7: doing that And i Feel that scout, And Ken All, right. 1138 00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:31,480 Speaker 2: So mikel, williams the georgia product has the measurables. From 1139 00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,520 Speaker 2: a hightweight perspective had a high ankle sprain in The, 1140 00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,960 Speaker 2: kickoff game against clemson really wasn't right for the next. 1141 00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:41,040 Speaker 2: Six to eight weeks told us here this week that 1142 00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,440 Speaker 2: he played hurt pretty much the. Rest of the way 1143 00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,720 Speaker 2: so how do you look at his, tape when you 1144 00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:50,000 Speaker 2: know here's a player that's not at his best health 1145 00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:53,160 Speaker 2: wise and he's playing through it and what he described at. 1146 00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:54,760 Speaker 4: Sixty, to eighty percent. 1147 00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:56,880 Speaker 7: Well it's interesting YOU say that because i think he's 1148 00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:01,040 Speaker 7: the most intriguing of. ALL the edge players i thought 1149 00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:04,000 Speaker 7: he actually improved in terms of how he went about 1150 00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:07,280 Speaker 7: rushing the quarterback this year as, opposed TO last year 1151 00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:11,560 Speaker 7: because i watched his tape. Last summer as well he 1152 00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:13,760 Speaker 7: is a man if you. SEE him in person i 1153 00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:15,520 Speaker 7: actually got to see him in person When He Won 1154 00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:18,080 Speaker 7: the maxwell club award when he was a high School, 1155 00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:21,080 Speaker 7: Senior going to georgia and if you just saw, him 1156 00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:22,640 Speaker 7: in a suit you would have thought he. Was thirty 1157 00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,880 Speaker 7: years old he. Looks, like a man yeah he's one 1158 00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:27,960 Speaker 7: of those guys You know exactly. What i'm, talking about 1159 00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,160 Speaker 7: yeah yeah some of, these guys, look like. You know, 1160 00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:34,360 Speaker 7: suburban kids, yeah yeah not. Him RIGHT right right and 1161 00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:38,000 Speaker 7: i think there's a. Ton IN his body and i. 1162 00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:39,720 Speaker 7: DON'T know the kids i talked to, him for, five 1163 00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:41,520 Speaker 7: minutes you know four Years, Ago AT the maxwell so 1164 00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:43,560 Speaker 7: i can't SIT here and, say i know him. BUT 1165 00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:48,320 Speaker 7: assuming good things i think. He's THE most intriguing and 1166 00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:50,160 Speaker 7: i hate to use words we all use it when, 1167 00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:53,440 Speaker 7: we were, scouting players, you know upside. Potential THINGS like 1168 00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,320 Speaker 7: that but i think that there's so much in his, 1169 00:58:56,480 --> 00:59:00,520 Speaker 7: body with, his athleticism his movement. He's power or full 1170 00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:03,920 Speaker 7: You know, One thing i've learned Brownie is and and 1171 00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:06,400 Speaker 7: i've learned this FROM Going To the o Line, Masterminds 1172 00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,640 Speaker 7: event in frisco texas for two, years in a row 1173 00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:12,520 Speaker 7: talking to OFFENSIVE. Tackles in the nfl all they talk 1174 00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,840 Speaker 7: about is if you, can't win with power then it's. 1175 00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:16,320 Speaker 3: Really hard to be. 1176 00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:18,760 Speaker 7: A GOOD pass rusher because i had A Great, conversation 1177 00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:20,959 Speaker 7: with andrew whitworth who obviously knows a little more about 1178 00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:24,560 Speaker 7: PLAYING left, tackle than i, do, and he said eventually 1179 00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:26,680 Speaker 7: you got. To get through me so all these guys 1180 00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:29,280 Speaker 7: that have moves and. Dance and all these eventually they 1181 00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,080 Speaker 7: got to get through me because, the quarterbacks. 1182 00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:32,720 Speaker 3: Behind me they got. 1183 00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,400 Speaker 1: It's, still pushing shows yeah they. 1184 00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:35,960 Speaker 3: Gotta get they. 1185 00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,920 Speaker 7: Gotta get behind me so if you, can't play, with 1186 00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,960 Speaker 7: power you know these guys don't fear any. 1187 00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:43,040 Speaker 3: Of that as much and. 1188 00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:46,200 Speaker 2: HE has prototype size i mean. He's six to five i've. 1189 00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:47,560 Speaker 2: Got his arm good he's. 1190 00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:48,680 Speaker 4: Got ten inch hands and thirty. 1191 00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:52,640 Speaker 2: Four and, a, Half YEAH yeah yeah so i mean, prototype, every, every, 1192 00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:54,560 Speaker 2: box height WEIGHT reach. 1193 00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:56,960 Speaker 7: He will i mean, Unless there's a, trade i'm being 1194 00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:57,800 Speaker 7: honest he won't. 1195 00:59:57,800 --> 00:59:58,800 Speaker 3: Be there, AT thirty. 1196 00:59:58,520 --> 00:59:58,920 Speaker 2: Oh no i. 1197 00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,120 Speaker 1: Wouldn't GOT another guy when I ask you And i 1198 01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:04,120 Speaker 1: when we. Brownie, STARTED handing me Now i started asking brandy, 1199 01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:05,760 Speaker 1: give me some names and he gave Me, This Guy. From, 1200 01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:09,000 Speaker 1: Morgan JORDAN birch yep and i STARTED watching him AND i. Liked, 1201 01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,040 Speaker 1: what I Saw, yes from, jordan birch. 1202 01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:13,120 Speaker 4: Another, big heavy guy yeah and. 1203 01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:16,040 Speaker 7: He was a transfer he was. A five star recruit 1204 01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:18,200 Speaker 7: i believe He Was was a south Carolina And he. 1205 01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,120 Speaker 3: Ended south carolina first he's. 1206 01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,800 Speaker 7: A multi positional player you could play, him at the 1207 01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:24,480 Speaker 7: end you could play him at the tackle if you 1208 01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:27,160 Speaker 7: want to bring him inside as a. SUB front pass 1209 01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:29,920 Speaker 7: rusher i think the best is yet to come because 1210 01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:31,640 Speaker 7: this kid's got traits and he's. 1211 01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:33,520 Speaker 3: Got really, good size you have do you? 1212 01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:33,640 Speaker 2: Have? 1213 01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,720 Speaker 7: His, numbers There yeah yeah he's my guess. IS his 1214 01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:40,160 Speaker 7: numbers are i don't charge ALL this because when i 1215 01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,000 Speaker 7: go back To, THE office on monday i, get THE 1216 01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:44,120 Speaker 7: whole list so i don't sit. There and write everybody 1217 01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:45,480 Speaker 7: so he also dropped. 1218 01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:47,720 Speaker 4: A little way too yeah he's six four and an. 1219 01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,680 Speaker 2: Eighth, through seventy nine yeah but that's nine and a 1220 01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:51,520 Speaker 2: half inch hand. 1221 01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:52,000 Speaker 3: Thirty. 1222 01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:55,600 Speaker 7: Three INCH charge yeah but i, think that, this kid 1223 01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:58,280 Speaker 7: to me could. BE an ascending player i think that 1224 01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,200 Speaker 7: there's there's more to come this. 1225 01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:04,040 Speaker 3: Kid in his body so he's a guy that could well. 1226 01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:07,600 Speaker 7: Be there AT thirty, BUT like i said i think you, 1227 01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:10,440 Speaker 7: can play him inside you. Can Play him OUTSIDE uh 1228 01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:12,800 Speaker 7: and and i think. That he'll he'll, develop and you 1229 01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,440 Speaker 7: know we had talked about this earlier today. Just shooting 1230 01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:17,920 Speaker 7: the breeze One thing about the bills, is they developed, 1231 01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:21,640 Speaker 7: players so you know guys get better when They. Get, 1232 01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:24,080 Speaker 7: to the, bills yeah you know, so he's to me 1233 01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:26,080 Speaker 7: he falls into that category. 1234 01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:27,960 Speaker 2: Eight and a, half sacks last year which was the. 1235 01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,960 Speaker 2: Most in his career he had only had seven and 1236 01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:33,880 Speaker 2: a half, the previous Three Seasons two with South. Carolina 1237 01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:36,680 Speaker 2: one with oregon kind of started to. Put it all together, that's, 1238 01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:38,680 Speaker 2: why you're saying right. HE'S on the end i think he's. 1239 01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:40,120 Speaker 3: Just an ascending player. 1240 01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:41,440 Speaker 1: What was his height and weight here at the combat. 1241 01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:44,680 Speaker 3: Six, seventy nine big yeah. 1242 01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:46,840 Speaker 1: See so some of the, information you get this they's 1243 01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:50,520 Speaker 1: been listed. At six six five well that's, what, The college, 1244 01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:54,840 Speaker 1: list right so yeah it's a little. Different, through, this stuff. 1245 01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:55,960 Speaker 3: Well no that's why you got to wait for. The. 1246 01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:59,960 Speaker 7: Real, official leasure no no they always add a lead 1247 01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:02,160 Speaker 7: an inch and often depending. 1248 01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:02,280 Speaker 1: On. 1249 01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:03,880 Speaker 3: The position pounds yeah. 1250 01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:05,200 Speaker 4: Another power Type Player. 1251 01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:08,760 Speaker 2: Jtlay from ohio state. 1252 01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:11,640 Speaker 7: He's A power player, AND i'm being honest i struggle 1253 01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:13,880 Speaker 7: with him a LITTLE bit as. An, nfl pass rusher 1254 01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,600 Speaker 7: yes does, he HAVE some power but I run stuff 1255 01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:20,360 Speaker 7: for i think he's more, of an, edge setter run, 1256 01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:22,400 Speaker 7: stuffer hold the point. 1257 01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:22,720 Speaker 4: Kind of like. 1258 01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:24,479 Speaker 2: Traditional. Left, defense end. 1259 01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:26,800 Speaker 7: Yes yeah in the old days where everybody lined up 1260 01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:28,440 Speaker 7: with a tight end on the right side. Attached to 1261 01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:32,000 Speaker 7: the formation now. Maybe he can improve he was a. 1262 01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:35,400 Speaker 7: Little BETTER this year but i just let's, PUT it 1263 01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:38,480 Speaker 7: this way i wouldn't be drafting him as a pass 1264 01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:40,240 Speaker 7: rusher like that WOULDN'T be the way. 1265 01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:41,080 Speaker 3: I would. DRAFT him i. 1266 01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:44,160 Speaker 1: Know i knowed too you watch him on film and 1267 01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,440 Speaker 1: You know he was he was not, A, Good Team. 1268 01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:49,920 Speaker 1: Obviously yes ohio state he made the play when, it. 1269 01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:52,960 Speaker 1: Came to him right most of the guys who are 1270 01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:55,440 Speaker 1: gonna excel at AT the, at the nfl level the 1271 01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:59,560 Speaker 1: ones who show up a lot because they're just better 1272 01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:00,320 Speaker 1: than other bro. 1273 01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:02,600 Speaker 4: Is around the BALL he showed up i. 1274 01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:06,240 Speaker 1: Think in large measures sometimes, he's a big dude strong 1275 01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:09,360 Speaker 1: against the, run and all that but he makes the 1276 01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:10,720 Speaker 1: place he's supposed to make when. 1277 01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:12,439 Speaker 7: They come, to me to me he's one of those. 1278 01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:14,560 Speaker 7: SOLID rotational d ns. 1279 01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:16,480 Speaker 1: I thought he WAS a solid rotational dn, at, the 1280 01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:17,960 Speaker 1: college level RIGHT you? 1281 01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:18,040 Speaker 3: Know? 1282 01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:19,919 Speaker 1: What? I mean right, right, i was like oh he's. 1283 01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:21,560 Speaker 1: TAKING up a, notch, I don't know right. 1284 01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:24,080 Speaker 7: And that's THE thing, but like i said no matter what, 1285 01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:26,000 Speaker 7: you think of me even if, YOU really like him 1286 01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:28,520 Speaker 7: i just don't think you draft him, as, A, PASS 1287 01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:29,160 Speaker 7: rusher right. 1288 01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:33,400 Speaker 2: Yeah i Would Agree his teammate jack sawyer guy that's 1289 01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:34,400 Speaker 2: Going to be a day two? 1290 01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:37,040 Speaker 4: Pick in all likelihood. 1291 01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:38,440 Speaker 3: What do? 1292 01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:41,360 Speaker 2: You make, of him, six four two sixty a little, 1293 01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:43,840 Speaker 2: short on the arms thirty. One, AND six eighths. 1294 01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:46,520 Speaker 7: Yeah i would, argue that, he's also you know. A 1295 01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:49,440 Speaker 7: rotational type player i don't think he's. A pass, rusher 1296 01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:54,280 Speaker 7: either you know he's. A try hard guy everybody remembers the, 1297 01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:55,200 Speaker 7: big sack he Had. 1298 01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:58,040 Speaker 3: You, know, against texas, Yeah YEAH you know. 1299 01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:02,960 Speaker 7: But i don't think. HE'S that guy either i don't 1300 01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:05,880 Speaker 7: think you draft him. AS a pass rusher i think he's. A, 1301 01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:07,000 Speaker 7: rotational d. 1302 01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:09,280 Speaker 4: End okay the, guy That. 1303 01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:15,400 Speaker 2: We Know that bill the bills traditionally lean towards. Long 1304 01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:19,800 Speaker 2: angular defensive ends, we don't know. Why But they do greg. 1305 01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:27,920 Speaker 2: Russo Being an example Vanessa, Long. RIGHT landon jackson arkansas. 1306 01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:31,920 Speaker 7: I really, like this kid's tape and it just validated 1307 01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:36,800 Speaker 7: it watching his movement. Yesterday in the dome for a 1308 01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:40,400 Speaker 7: guy that is long and might some, might think is 1309 01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:43,720 Speaker 7: gangly he. Doesn't really move that he just moves differently. 1310 01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:46,880 Speaker 7: Because of his length but, He is not. STIFF he's 1311 01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:51,320 Speaker 7: not segmented. I love, His tape you know i'm always 1312 01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:55,360 Speaker 7: leary of making comparisons because, that's all people REMEMBER and when, 1313 01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:58,320 Speaker 7: WHEN i make comparisons i make COMPARISONS based on what 1314 01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:01,280 Speaker 7: i thought of watching a guy, coming out of college 1315 01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:03,720 Speaker 7: now what he's, become, in the league, because as we've 1316 01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:06,919 Speaker 7: discussed there's fifteen variables that lead to what a guy could. 1317 01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:10,200 Speaker 7: Become in the league but he kind of reminded me 1318 01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:12,959 Speaker 7: a LITTLE bit Of When i watched mac crosby. Coming 1319 01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,840 Speaker 7: out of, college not You Know we know max crosby now, 1320 01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:19,160 Speaker 7: was a Great player but, if i'm not mistaken he 1321 01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:19,560 Speaker 7: was a fourth. 1322 01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:23,640 Speaker 2: Or, fifth, ROUND pick yeah fifth. I, want to fifth yeah, and, similar. 1323 01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:28,040 Speaker 7: Body type Yes long you, know crosby's become great but 1324 01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:29,640 Speaker 7: obviously as, a fifth round. 1325 01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:32,440 Speaker 3: Pick no one thought he'd be this when you know 1326 01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:33,800 Speaker 3: when he. Was in. The draft That's Right. 1327 01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:37,640 Speaker 2: You know jackson atlanta JACKSON'S playing, in the sec right, 1328 01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:40,320 Speaker 2: a much better conference and he killed it. 1329 01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:41,480 Speaker 4: In the workout yesterday. 1330 01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:44,880 Speaker 2: You saw the verdict believe forty and a half, Inches It's, 1331 01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:49,440 Speaker 2: Basically Him, shamar Stewart Miles garrett and mario williams as 1332 01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:51,919 Speaker 2: the only two hundred and sixty plus pound players to leave. 1333 01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:53,040 Speaker 2: FORTY inches or more. 1334 01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:53,600 Speaker 3: I really like. His. 1335 01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:56,280 Speaker 7: Tape, Rare air YEAH yeah and what i even love 1336 01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:57,200 Speaker 7: about him more is he Looks. 1337 01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:58,240 Speaker 3: Like a bond villain. 1338 01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:04,800 Speaker 2: Ten yard ten yards split Is once ten yard spit. 1339 01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:08,080 Speaker 2: Is one six,' five that's not elite. But, it's not 1340 01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:14,400 Speaker 2: far off no and maybe explain why coaches and personnel executives, 1341 01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:17,800 Speaker 2: want that ten yard. Split, especially for defensive line. 1342 01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,280 Speaker 7: Well you're looking you're looking. At, quickness at your explosion 1343 01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:23,880 Speaker 7: yes you're. Looking for explosion, and quickness by the way 1344 01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:24,240 Speaker 7: do you have? 1345 01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:26,760 Speaker 3: His broad? Jump measurement there, Ten, nine That's. 1346 01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:30,160 Speaker 7: Pretty good yeah because i've talked to coaches who really 1347 01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:33,800 Speaker 7: like the broad jump because of the explosive nature that. 1348 01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:35,919 Speaker 3: It, speaks, to hip flex yes. 1349 01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:40,800 Speaker 7: Yes and, that's pretty good, so again combination of tape 1350 01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:44,600 Speaker 7: which is my, number one starting point obviously but the 1351 01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:46,600 Speaker 7: tape's really, good for two years now. 1352 01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:47,080 Speaker 3: It's not just. 1353 01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:50,120 Speaker 2: One year for two years it. Doesn't have blowaway sack 1354 01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:52,360 Speaker 2: numbers but this is. A guy who is around but. 1355 01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:53,040 Speaker 3: There's a reason for. 1356 01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:55,320 Speaker 7: That you watch his tape he was often ASKED to 1357 01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:59,600 Speaker 7: play at four i inside, the defensive tack excuse. Me 1358 01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:02,280 Speaker 7: the offin of tackle so he was. Not a, pure 1359 01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:03,120 Speaker 7: edge player in. 1360 01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:05,320 Speaker 4: College he's on the inside they played a lot. 1361 01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:07,919 Speaker 7: Of three man fronts in which he was a four 1362 01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:10,880 Speaker 7: eye and you know that's not, really a, pass rush 1363 01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:13,840 Speaker 7: position you. Know in a strict sense. So keep that 1364 01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:16,800 Speaker 7: in mind his height and weight six.' five and something 1365 01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:18,120 Speaker 7: around seventy he's. 1366 01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:20,920 Speaker 4: Six, SIX and he was hold. On i got it 1367 01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:23,920 Speaker 4: right here. He, was SIX six. 1368 01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:28,200 Speaker 7: Sixty four yeah and i think he was Too seventy. 1369 01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:31,000 Speaker 7: At one of the bowl games. But, so he's in 1370 01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:31,959 Speaker 7: that range. 1371 01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:35,240 Speaker 1: Yeah that's that's the kind of that kind Of measurable 1372 01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:36,880 Speaker 1: is exactly what the bills would be. 1373 01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:38,320 Speaker 3: Looking. For. In a higher pick. 1374 01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:40,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah and the way, he ran the way he 1375 01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:43,760 Speaker 2: ran people, thought he was. A you know third, round 1376 01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:45,760 Speaker 2: pick the way he ran he's in the. Second round 1377 01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:46,440 Speaker 2: AT least. 1378 01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:48,280 Speaker 7: To me and again i can, only go by my, 1379 01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:52,040 Speaker 7: tape evaluation and that's you know, THE end combined with 1380 01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:55,240 Speaker 7: the workout i think he's very worthy of the thirtieth 1381 01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:57,840 Speaker 7: pick in. The draft, in this particular draft. You, know 1382 01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:01,560 Speaker 7: every draft. Is, different yeah that's what understand yeah you 1383 01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:03,800 Speaker 7: have to look. At the, players in this draft you 1384 01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:06,240 Speaker 7: Know You're. Not comparing, him to miles garrett you know 1385 01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:08,480 Speaker 7: you're looking. At the Players in this Draft. 1386 01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:09,959 Speaker 1: You know i'm talking about yeah you're not talking about 1387 01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:12,600 Speaker 1: the top five, or, Six, picks of, This Draft, right 1388 01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:15,880 Speaker 1: yeah exactly exactly mike? 1389 01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:16,920 Speaker 3: GREEN did? You LOOK at me i. 1390 01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:19,960 Speaker 2: Did, and i really liked him, Marshall, he's a transfer 1391 01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:20,840 Speaker 2: to though yes. 1392 01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:22,800 Speaker 7: And he sat out a. YEAR he sat out. A 1393 01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:26,840 Speaker 7: year i found him fascinating do you have his uh. 1394 01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:30,439 Speaker 2: Six three and an, eighth yeah two fifty one yes 1395 01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:35,240 Speaker 2: only eight and a half, inch hands thirty two inch. 1396 01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:37,240 Speaker 3: Yeah his arms probably not so. 1397 01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:39,920 Speaker 2: His wing is. Only SEVENTY seven and five eighths but. 1398 01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,160 Speaker 7: I thought that he had moves i thought he had 1399 01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:44,599 Speaker 7: an understanding of how to, rush the quarterback. 1400 01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:45,120 Speaker 2: THAT spin. 1401 01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:48,080 Speaker 3: MOVE which was phenomenal i was i was. 1402 01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:50,880 Speaker 1: Impressed with him because he seemed like he. HAD a bigger, 1403 01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:52,000 Speaker 1: arsenal of pass. 1404 01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:52,920 Speaker 3: I would agree that's. 1405 01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:56,479 Speaker 1: My, point, and, He, had a plan yes yes well, when. 1406 01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:58,280 Speaker 2: You have those short arms you better have him planned. 1407 01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:01,680 Speaker 2: Because the tackles usually refore. 1408 01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:03,680 Speaker 1: You and that was that was the, reason For His, 1409 01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:09,760 Speaker 1: For his Production, was toledo marshall MARSHALL at marshall that 1410 01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:12,160 Speaker 1: was the i thought the reason for his production was 1411 01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:14,920 Speaker 1: he was just he had more than the offensive tackles 1412 01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:18,200 Speaker 1: at least at that. Level could handle all At One, 1413 01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:19,120 Speaker 1: and they did play ohio. 1414 01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:21,640 Speaker 7: State and obviously they got killed but he had a 1415 01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:25,080 Speaker 7: great sack against their right tackle with a, great spin 1416 01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:27,639 Speaker 7: moved by THE way, and he held his. 1417 01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:29,400 Speaker 3: I mean he did not look over. Matched, in that, 1418 01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:30,160 Speaker 3: Game AT all. 1419 01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:33,680 Speaker 2: No and yes, AND i think to, your Point i 1420 01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:37,160 Speaker 2: think he realized, if i'm, GOING to get home you. 1421 01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:41,040 Speaker 2: Know i better have a plan he can't just straight 1422 01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:43,000 Speaker 2: arm a guy or one arm. 1423 01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:45,960 Speaker 7: Stab and then well you can the, one arm stab 1424 01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:48,200 Speaker 7: you can do but obviously you. 1425 01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:49,639 Speaker 3: Have to. TIME it really well. 1426 01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:52,519 Speaker 2: Yeah right i just felt he kind of the fact 1427 01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:56,160 Speaker 2: that a player that young recognizes that. AND then comes 1428 01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:59,040 Speaker 2: UP with. SOLUTIONS i think that i should i think 1429 01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:02,400 Speaker 2: that It, counts, with something That favors yeah yeah player. 1430 01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:04,519 Speaker 1: Is it speaks to his intelligence we've been talking about 1431 01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:07,559 Speaker 1: that a lot this. Week about smart guys do. Better 1432 01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:10,799 Speaker 1: and THERE'S always, an adage even when. I played smart 1433 01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:14,800 Speaker 1: guys always improve the guys who are not smart are 1434 01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:19,000 Speaker 1: the same guy. At the end, of, their careers they 1435 01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:22,800 Speaker 1: you know right so that. The experience doesn't teach, him much. 1436 01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:26,720 Speaker 1: They don't get better you know guys who don't have the. 1437 01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:28,599 Speaker 1: Have it upstairs don't get. 1438 01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:31,400 Speaker 7: Better and YOU and you HAVE to recognize i think, Which, 1439 01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:33,760 Speaker 7: i think your points correct brownie because you can see. 1440 01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:35,840 Speaker 7: It in the way he plays you have to recognize 1441 01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:38,519 Speaker 7: how important the little. Details of all this. Stuff is, 1442 01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:41,120 Speaker 7: that's What you know. You know this steve you played 1443 01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:44,240 Speaker 7: there's a lot OF. REALLY good, athletes in the nfl. 1444 01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:45,680 Speaker 7: I mean that's not the issue a lot of. 1445 01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:48,719 Speaker 1: Great ATHLETES, who, are, not, In the nfl correct. 1446 01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:51,040 Speaker 7: Right right but but the point, is very, often what, 1447 01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:53,760 Speaker 7: separates guys, you know makes them you, know long term 1448 01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:56,840 Speaker 7: really good players is they understand that it's about the 1449 01:10:56,960 --> 01:11:00,080 Speaker 7: nuance and the detail and that it's every day and 1450 01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:01,160 Speaker 7: you got, to do, it RIGHT every? 1451 01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:04,480 Speaker 3: Day. You know am i right absolutely. 1452 01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:06,120 Speaker 1: You go back and look at every great play and 1453 01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:09,080 Speaker 1: it's and the guys who were doing will tell you 1454 01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:11,640 Speaker 1: the guy the, tackle that's going against the edge and 1455 01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:14,320 Speaker 1: the guy that's the edge. WILL say, they, watched the 1456 01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:16,320 Speaker 1: film i, go yeah he had his hand he got, his, 1457 01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:19,280 Speaker 1: Hand there a little quicker, right, That, nuance gives, a sack, 1458 01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:21,640 Speaker 1: right well that sack, you know builds on another one then, 1459 01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:23,360 Speaker 1: another nuance, on, THE next one he is well i, 1460 01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:25,439 Speaker 1: had my sweet and my back my foot was out, 1461 01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:27,760 Speaker 1: of the linement or. Whatever whatever and. He, Got it 1462 01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:32,000 Speaker 1: that's two sacks right so now those those nuances are 1463 01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:35,040 Speaker 1: what give you. Fifteen. Sacks instead of five sacks. 1464 01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:36,800 Speaker 7: Right It's Funny you say that because DeMarcus ware was 1465 01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:39,880 Speaker 7: in our, broadcast BOOT camp after he retired and i 1466 01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:42,120 Speaker 7: got a chance to, really talk with him in detail 1467 01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:46,120 Speaker 7: and he was explaining to me like every detail that, 1468 01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:48,400 Speaker 7: he looked at with offensive tackles, and it was, like 1469 01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:51,840 Speaker 7: so detailed like you know? Which foot, did he start 1470 01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:53,960 Speaker 7: with you know did he did? He move it out 1471 01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:55,640 Speaker 7: three inches did? HE move it out eight in i 1472 01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:58,840 Speaker 7: mean he knew every single detail about, the guys he 1473 01:11:58,880 --> 01:11:59,519 Speaker 7: was playing against. 1474 01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:02,599 Speaker 1: Even, When they're, in their stands yeah, like like well 1475 01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:04,400 Speaker 1: in this one see here where see where, his left, 1476 01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:06,720 Speaker 1: hand is right right this. One it's halfway down? 1477 01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:06,880 Speaker 3: His? 1478 01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:09,200 Speaker 1: Thigh, I'M like what right no. 1479 01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:10,720 Speaker 3: No i mean. That's, what it, comes, down, to yeah 1480 01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:11,800 Speaker 3: you know. Yeah. 1481 01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:14,719 Speaker 4: Yeah no question about it greg thanks for running. 1482 01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:17,559 Speaker 2: Through the edge rushers for us we'll hit another position 1483 01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:20,640 Speaker 2: group next week with you as we count DOWN To, 1484 01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:24,439 Speaker 2: The twenty twenty five. Nfl, Draft we take a break, 1485 01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:28,040 Speaker 2: here we're back with plenty MORE Including your questions. From 1486 01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:30,559 Speaker 2: the obl Friday Fan Mailbag, next here On one Bill's. 1487 01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:31,439 Speaker 2: Live Presented By Colid. 1488 01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:31,640 Speaker 3: Of health. 1489 01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:33,080 Speaker 6: It's buffalo bill's Radio. 1490 01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:52,160 Speaker 2: All Right back here ON One Bill's live At. The 1491 01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:56,760 Speaker 2: nfl scouting combine in indianapolis our last show here and. 1492 01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:58,200 Speaker 4: Been a good WEEK of. 1493 01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:03,880 Speaker 2: Coverage There's more developing Nfl, News the washington commanders in 1494 01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:08,360 Speaker 2: houston texans could be battling each other for the Right 1495 01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:10,360 Speaker 2: to trade For Forty. 1496 01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:11,439 Speaker 4: Nine ers wide receiver. 1497 01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:17,200 Speaker 2: Deebo samuel so talks are progressing we'll see which team 1498 01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:20,640 Speaker 2: ends up. Being the winner in those Talks, but if 1499 01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:23,240 Speaker 2: You Think. About houston you got tank dell you don't know. 1500 01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:26,200 Speaker 2: When He's going to get BACK stefan diggs coming off in. 1501 01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:29,080 Speaker 2: Acl is not a sure thing so you got those 1502 01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:30,320 Speaker 2: two players in your receiving. 1503 01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:31,800 Speaker 4: Corps that are Major question. 1504 01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:35,200 Speaker 2: Marks so YOU understand Houston's interest and then i think 1505 01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:39,720 Speaker 2: washington is another team that you know they're Looking To. 1506 01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:44,240 Speaker 2: Upgrade the weapons around jaden, daniels so they have some 1507 01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:47,519 Speaker 2: weapons but they're looking to. Upgrade and help their Young 1508 01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:51,679 Speaker 2: Quarterback so it looks like san francisco Will find a suitor. 1509 01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:53,960 Speaker 4: To move samuel off their roster. 1510 01:13:55,240 --> 01:14:00,719 Speaker 1: We'll see he's an. Intriguing player HE'S a, little different 1511 01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:02,840 Speaker 1: he's not i? MEAN what, Do YOU call him i 1512 01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:03,559 Speaker 1: mean I'M. 1513 01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:05,840 Speaker 2: I mean as. 1514 01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:08,920 Speaker 1: An, outside x receiver NUMBER one no he's. 1515 01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:10,720 Speaker 2: More of i WOULD say he's more of a z 1516 01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:14,160 Speaker 2: right and then. Does some stuff in the backfield he's a. 1517 01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:17,840 Speaker 2: He's more of, a, positionless receiver he's built heavily yes 1518 01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:21,280 Speaker 2: and he is a pain in the arts. TO get 1519 01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:23,960 Speaker 2: down on the ground i mean that guy is heavy. 1520 01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:28,759 Speaker 2: Tackle breaker yards after catch. Dude so there's still value 1521 01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:32,960 Speaker 2: there but. He does miss games every year he doesn't 1522 01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:35,360 Speaker 2: get through a seventeen game season and. That's not changing 1523 01:14:35,439 --> 01:14:39,040 Speaker 2: another year older now he misses four to five games 1524 01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:40,959 Speaker 2: a year. Because of the wear and tear. 1525 01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:43,280 Speaker 1: I'm surprised of. How, unattractive HE sounds. 1526 01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:46,519 Speaker 2: For Me yeah and i think Curtis samuel is a 1527 01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:49,800 Speaker 2: player on buffalo's roster that they. Envision serving in a 1528 01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:52,640 Speaker 2: similar role He's not the tackle breaker that samuel is, 1529 01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:55,000 Speaker 2: because HE'S not built the same but i think they 1530 01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:57,400 Speaker 2: would like. To, utilize him in similar. 1531 01:14:57,000 --> 01:15:01,080 Speaker 1: Ways unfortunately he's about he's. Available about his all they, 1532 01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:02,400 Speaker 1: do they both Struggle with. 1533 01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:04,840 Speaker 2: That or at least samuel Did. In year one with 1534 01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:08,360 Speaker 2: the bills we do want to remind You that it is. 1535 01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:10,920 Speaker 2: An obl friday fan mail bag any. QUESTION you've got 1536 01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:12,720 Speaker 2: on your mind i know we haven't had time to 1537 01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:14,400 Speaker 2: open up the, phone lines much of this week but 1538 01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:16,720 Speaker 2: we do now here in the. Final half hour of 1539 01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:19,000 Speaker 2: the show so if You, have a question about the 1540 01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:22,439 Speaker 2: bills the combine a prospect here in the draft eight 1541 01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:25,479 Speaker 2: h three oh five point fifty one, eighty eight five 1542 01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:28,080 Speaker 2: point fifty two five fifty. The numbers to get on 1543 01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:30,000 Speaker 2: board we. Got open lines for you there we'll dip 1544 01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:32,519 Speaker 2: Into the mail bag, on The twitter, side of things 1545 01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:35,479 Speaker 2: where jacob asks if you could acquire, either player in 1546 01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:39,160 Speaker 2: their Contract Situation would You Rather? Have miles garrett or 1547 01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:42,960 Speaker 2: abdul carter which player? Would Take more capital to obtain 1548 01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:46,360 Speaker 2: so i'm assuming they're saying we have to go up To. 1549 01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:49,639 Speaker 4: The first pick to get abdul carter since. 1550 01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:52,479 Speaker 2: He's widely expected to be that so, you'd be giving 1551 01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:55,839 Speaker 2: up enormous capital Arguably. MORE than you would for garrett 1552 01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:58,360 Speaker 2: i think Not to Mention the fact that. 1553 01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:00,439 Speaker 4: Garrett would garrett. 1554 01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:04,599 Speaker 2: Is more cost carter is probably more capital because it's, 1555 01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:07,240 Speaker 2: the first pick, in, THE draft don't you think yes 1556 01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:10,000 Speaker 2: i especially, if you're coming up from thirty it would 1557 01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:12,160 Speaker 2: be in that your cost is. In This Draft, right 1558 01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:15,600 Speaker 2: now today for abduall carter you have. To, Give it 1559 01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:17,720 Speaker 2: up right now yeah and, the bills, are coming from 1560 01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:18,759 Speaker 2: thirty not ten. 1561 01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:21,719 Speaker 1: And the cap you get the caps and that because because, 1562 01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:26,840 Speaker 1: there's financial savings inside of that. Right, because he didn't cost, 1563 01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:28,840 Speaker 1: anything yeah he's on a rookie he's, a. 1564 01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:30,960 Speaker 3: He'll cost you something well and. 1565 01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:33,280 Speaker 4: His whole contract will, be guaranteed it's. 1566 01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:39,680 Speaker 1: It's it's pennies that's ashtray money, so you're getting a 1567 01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:42,439 Speaker 1: great player supposedly a. Great player out of the gate. 1568 01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:45,720 Speaker 1: So it's gonna Cost You, more now you get miles, garrett, it's, gonna, 1569 01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:50,240 Speaker 1: cost you. PICKS cash, cap cash you know i mean 1570 01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:53,240 Speaker 1: it's gonna. Crush your cap all of that so. You're 1571 01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:55,800 Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna take. That that's, where his cost is 1572 01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:57,599 Speaker 1: so yeah you'd have To Give up more to Get Abdual. 1573 01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:02,280 Speaker 1: Carter than he, WOULD miles GARRETT that's but yeah. I, 1574 01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:06,760 Speaker 1: think i just pro rated Yeah you're and you. Also 1575 01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:09,240 Speaker 1: know garrett's a. Sure, thing that's the, Other point well 1576 01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:10,800 Speaker 1: that's that's true that is. 1577 01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:12,200 Speaker 4: That has TO be factored In. 1578 01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:14,600 Speaker 3: That so i. 1579 01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:16,160 Speaker 2: Might lean garrett. 1580 01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:19,000 Speaker 4: It's, Close, though that's a tough. 1581 01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:19,360 Speaker 3: Question. 1582 01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:20,800 Speaker 4: Jacob And a good one. 1583 01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:24,719 Speaker 1: Garrett getting garrett affects your whole. Roster As it stands 1584 01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:29,040 Speaker 1: right now. Abdul carter affects your future roster but it, 1585 01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:31,639 Speaker 1: helps your bank account right now and, it could help 1586 01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:34,760 Speaker 1: your Current. Roster and maybe not? To garrett, will they'll 1587 01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:37,719 Speaker 1: Both help, BUT yes bass. 1588 01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:40,200 Speaker 2: Drum rule asks i know d Line is trending considering 1589 01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:41,840 Speaker 2: What the eagles did Against the chiefs and what The, 1590 01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:43,720 Speaker 2: Bills didn't do against the chiefs but are we going? 1591 01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:44,160 Speaker 4: To Address? 1592 01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:47,759 Speaker 2: The wide receiver Position for, Josh it's always on josh's shoulders. 1593 01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:50,160 Speaker 2: Dig's number, One, and nobody else everyone. EATS okay what 1594 01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:53,720 Speaker 2: can be done i do want to remind everybody that, 1595 01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:56,519 Speaker 2: at the end Of The, playoffs Even after the super 1596 01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:59,360 Speaker 2: bowl the bills led the league in points Scored with 1597 01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:05,360 Speaker 2: SIX hundred in twelve so while i understand the question 1598 01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:07,599 Speaker 2: and Why you want. 1599 01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:10,880 Speaker 6: To, FEEL the bill should upgrade receiver i don't. 1600 01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:14,799 Speaker 2: Think they're going to ignore it but there are Much greater. 1601 01:18:15,400 --> 01:18:19,439 Speaker 2: Pressing issues with the bill's roster there is a very 1602 01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:22,479 Speaker 2: good chance by the time we get to the start 1603 01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:26,640 Speaker 2: of free agency that the only defensive tackles under Contract 1604 01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:30,280 Speaker 2: On this Roster Will. Be dwayne carter and ed oliver 1605 01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:33,840 Speaker 2: that is a cavernous Hole at a position where the 1606 01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:35,080 Speaker 2: bill's last few years have. 1607 01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:37,200 Speaker 4: Carried, five players. 1608 01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:41,800 Speaker 2: At three openings yeah now you could fill, one potentially 1609 01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:45,280 Speaker 2: with a free. Agent but all three probably, not and 1610 01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:48,599 Speaker 2: then At Edge rusher if you cut von, miller as 1611 01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:55,599 Speaker 2: a Salary Cap, Casualty Now you've Got javon solomon greg russo. 1612 01:18:57,400 --> 01:19:01,280 Speaker 2: And epessa that's what you have and then you you've 1613 01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:04,600 Speaker 2: got some younger guys in, the, Pipeline and all those guys. 1614 01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:06,440 Speaker 4: Well anku's a defensive tackle. 1615 01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:09,200 Speaker 1: And who's the other. And we, might have to check 1616 01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:10,640 Speaker 1: but yeah so the. 1617 01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:10,960 Speaker 3: Need. 1618 01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:17,000 Speaker 2: Up front is very significant uh and it's also Significant 1619 01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:20,240 Speaker 2: In the secondary where if Rasul Douglass is not back, 1620 01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:24,040 Speaker 2: and DeMar Hamlin Is, Not Back, You're Talking tarren johnson. 1621 01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:31,600 Speaker 2: Christian benford kyrie elam at corner. SO you, got a 1622 01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:35,000 Speaker 2: hole there i mean you Can make the argument that 1623 01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:40,240 Speaker 2: the bills potentially will need to find, three starters on, 1624 01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:46,880 Speaker 2: defense this offseason, a defensive end an outside. Corner, and 1625 01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:51,160 Speaker 2: potentially is starting. Safety yeah so that's not. 1626 01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:53,240 Speaker 1: Nothing and they've got and they would love to find 1627 01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:54,920 Speaker 1: a defensive tackle that could come in and be a, 1628 01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:58,600 Speaker 1: regular rotational guy on. IMPORTANT downs, like a real. Contributor 1629 01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:03,680 Speaker 1: i mean they've got some the roster defensively is exactly 1630 01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:07,080 Speaker 1: as bereft of proven towns it was last year when 1631 01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:13,400 Speaker 1: They released four year hide. Uh tredavious ALL of those 1632 01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:14,200 Speaker 1: guys so. 1633 01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:18,160 Speaker 2: While i understand, the QUESTION from bass drum rule and 1634 01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:21,040 Speaker 2: i do think receiver will be, addressed in some shape 1635 01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:25,400 Speaker 2: or form do not think for a second that it 1636 01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:28,280 Speaker 2: is the number one. Priority for this team this offseason, 1637 01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:30,639 Speaker 2: there are much greater pressing ones arguably. 1638 01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:33,840 Speaker 1: Three right now on the defense it's not going to be. 1639 01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:36,439 Speaker 1: That way when the draft. Comes they're not going to 1640 01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:40,240 Speaker 1: have a positional emergency is the one we're outlining, right 1641 01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:42,400 Speaker 1: now where there are but this. That's Where everybody's at 1642 01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:45,000 Speaker 1: right now the bills, have sixty guys on their roster, 1643 01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:48,320 Speaker 1: so they can feel the, team but they need you 1644 01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:52,799 Speaker 1: know there's positional emergencies right now and until free agency 1645 01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:55,120 Speaker 1: hits where they can start signing guys that DO have 1646 01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:59,240 Speaker 1: a resume in the. Nfl rather, than just, in college 1647 01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:03,040 Speaker 1: you know. Right now that's where you're at you gotta 1648 01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:05,840 Speaker 1: have some bodies in the secondary, and up front on 1649 01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:09,519 Speaker 1: this defense and you're looking and you're looking for difference 1650 01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:11,439 Speaker 1: makers because that you know. 1651 01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:14,000 Speaker 4: That don't cost, you an arm and a leg and. 1652 01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:14,439 Speaker 3: Those, are. 1653 01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:15,080 Speaker 4: Found in, the. 1654 01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:17,120 Speaker 1: Draft yeah exactly. 1655 01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:19,800 Speaker 2: Stevens asks can you explain why we're always over the 1656 01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:22,960 Speaker 2: cap when we Don't have any star players and josh 1657 01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:25,559 Speaker 2: isn't even. CLOSE to being top market. Money i just 1658 01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:27,559 Speaker 2: don't get it it's like. Every year we're Over the 1659 01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:30,640 Speaker 2: cap how? Do, the Patriots have so much well the 1660 01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:32,600 Speaker 2: patriots have so much because they've gotten. Rid of all 1661 01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:35,880 Speaker 2: their veteran players they stripped it down and they had 1662 01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:39,360 Speaker 2: one of the, worst rosters in football last year and 1663 01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:39,600 Speaker 2: they have. 1664 01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:40,280 Speaker 4: A quarterback on. 1665 01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:45,479 Speaker 2: A rookie deal So, that's why as for the bills 1666 01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:49,360 Speaker 2: they're In. Year eight under McDermott and bean they have 1667 01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:53,599 Speaker 2: about ten to, twelve players, who have. Been drafted re 1668 01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:57,400 Speaker 2: signed and developed, so they're on their second contracts which 1669 01:21:57,439 --> 01:22:00,479 Speaker 2: are usually the largest contract to, player signs in their 1670 01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:03,160 Speaker 2: respective career with the exception of quarterbacks in. Maybe one 1671 01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:06,599 Speaker 2: or Two Other positions so you have, dion dawkins On 1672 01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:10,200 Speaker 2: His second contract you have, Dawson Knox on his second contract, 1673 01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:14,240 Speaker 2: taron johnson's on his third contract and you're gonna have 1674 01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:16,479 Speaker 2: a host of other players who are gonna be asking. 1675 01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:18,439 Speaker 2: To Be on their second contract spencer. Brown is on, 1676 01:22:18,479 --> 01:22:24,479 Speaker 2: his second contract so you know, you have, players that you've, 1677 01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:29,080 Speaker 2: drafted you've developed they're proven starters and you have to 1678 01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:31,960 Speaker 2: pay them. If you want to keep them and that 1679 01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:35,880 Speaker 2: Is a big reason why the bills have been right 1680 01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:38,080 Speaker 2: at the precipice of the camp every year. 1681 01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:40,000 Speaker 1: Last year and they're. Gonna be, there again this year 1682 01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:42,120 Speaker 1: last year they there was a point where they had 1683 01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:44,599 Speaker 1: fifty nine million or something. Like that in dead cap 1684 01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:47,760 Speaker 1: money right now, they're sitting at Eleven point eight So 1685 01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:51,080 Speaker 1: they've gotten that's like the diggs Contract Came off and all, 1686 01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:54,559 Speaker 1: and tredavious white's contract. Came off and it's dead. Money, 1687 01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:57,439 Speaker 1: that also puts them over yeah it's dead money the, eight. 1688 01:22:57,479 --> 01:22:59,640 Speaker 2: Thirty one seven trading digs. 1689 01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:05,040 Speaker 1: Right so, that's that's the real you know that's that's 1690 01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:08,439 Speaker 1: the real. Problem is it's the dead. Money that does 1691 01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:11,360 Speaker 1: it to you and they, did it by sign you 1692 01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:12,920 Speaker 1: know they got to sign guys and. They give him 1693 01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:15,200 Speaker 1: bonuses up front the money gets pro rated so. They 1694 01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:16,720 Speaker 1: can't spend that money again. 1695 01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:21,400 Speaker 2: Henry asks in Twenty twenty four who was the? BILL'S 1696 01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:27,320 Speaker 2: best core special teams Player I think. YOU could argue cam. 1697 01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:33,720 Speaker 2: LEWIS here i think you could I Like, what WE 1698 01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:36,120 Speaker 2: saw from joe andreeson although i don't know if i'd 1699 01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:39,000 Speaker 2: make him say he was, the best core special teams. 1700 01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:40,839 Speaker 4: Player But he was up there. 1701 01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:47,720 Speaker 2: Dorian williams was good on. Special Teams when he wasn't starting. 1702 01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:51,559 Speaker 1: Dorian williams was. An Excellent player on special teams Mac 1703 01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:52,240 Speaker 1: collins made. 1704 01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:54,240 Speaker 2: A couple mc collins. Made some Plays with his. 1705 01:23:54,320 --> 01:24:01,599 Speaker 1: Energy let's uh ulafoo played, Some, special team the whole. Season. 1706 01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:02,760 Speaker 4: Yeah when, he was active right. 1707 01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:05,920 Speaker 1: So there there's some of, those guys that are you 1708 01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:11,559 Speaker 1: know And. A guy guy like and andresen those, guys, 1709 01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:15,639 Speaker 1: Once it dawns on them well andresen more than olaf. 1710 01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:20,680 Speaker 1: Show when it dawns on, him that's their that's their 1711 01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:23,640 Speaker 1: gig that's their, profession as a special teams player and 1712 01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:26,240 Speaker 1: they and They pursue it and start to THEY'RE gonna 1713 01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:32,280 Speaker 1: get vastly better because i think normally What happens a 1714 01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:34,120 Speaker 1: young player LIKE andresen comes, Out and says. I can 1715 01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:36,080 Speaker 1: play and he did he, played some linebacker for this 1716 01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:38,479 Speaker 1: team and sometimes in at the end of. Games where 1717 01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:40,880 Speaker 1: they were comfortably winning. It didn't happen all that often 1718 01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:43,720 Speaker 1: but you get, on the field and you play and 1719 01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:45,200 Speaker 1: you and you see it on film and you get 1720 01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:47,719 Speaker 1: evaluated for how you, played in REGULAR down and. Distance 1721 01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:49,680 Speaker 1: and then i get it, i'm watching this And HE 1722 01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:52,559 Speaker 1: think you know what i'm i Really do need to 1723 01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:55,439 Speaker 1: make sure i'm on this team because my down and, distance, 1724 01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:58,840 Speaker 1: play has not measured up. Uh Even in my own 1725 01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:01,479 Speaker 1: eyes so i'm going to be a special teams. Guy 1726 01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:02,960 Speaker 1: they can't get rid of and all of a Sudden 1727 01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:05,080 Speaker 1: You Get a Guy like ula fox show and andresen 1728 01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:07,839 Speaker 1: who shift gears. On, that side of the ball. 1729 01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:11,080 Speaker 2: Here you're leading tacklers on special teams last season tied. At, 1730 01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:15,040 Speaker 2: The Top, With six Tackles, Apiece joe Andreeson, JaMarcus, ingram 1731 01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:16,439 Speaker 2: cole bishop cam lewis. 1732 01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:19,320 Speaker 1: Yeah those Are your leading tacklers the whole bishop played 1733 01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:20,440 Speaker 1: a lot of special teams. 1734 01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:20,519 Speaker 3: Had a force. 1735 01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:22,200 Speaker 4: Fumble, on specially before last. 1736 01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:25,479 Speaker 1: Year yeah, BEFORE they start started you know. I was, 1737 01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:29,479 Speaker 1: forced onto the lineup so. Yeah there's your there's your 1738 01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:33,960 Speaker 1: answer alfonso. Asks out Of the mail bag will THE Bills? 1739 01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:35,679 Speaker 1: HAVE an interest in. 1740 01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:39,799 Speaker 2: T higgins i think, because of their current cap situation 1741 01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:41,839 Speaker 2: it's going to be very. Hard for them to manage 1742 01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:46,160 Speaker 2: that when you think about how this team would presumably 1743 01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:48,960 Speaker 2: based on the, fact that they've Had Talks already like 1744 01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:52,200 Speaker 2: to sign. James cook to a contract extension you have 1745 01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:57,040 Speaker 2: the Potential For, Extensions For, Players Like christian. Benford terrell bernard. 1746 01:25:58,320 --> 01:25:58,599 Speaker 4: Josh. 1747 01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:02,920 Speaker 2: Allen's contract what's going on there to take on a 1748 01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:06,160 Speaker 2: receiver contract that's going to be north of, TWENTY five 1749 01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:06,920 Speaker 2: million dollars. 1750 01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:07,920 Speaker 3: A season. 1751 01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:12,559 Speaker 2: I think is unrealistic i Think the receiver held that 1752 01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:15,880 Speaker 2: the bills will seek will come in the draft unless 1753 01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:19,080 Speaker 2: they can find a. Bargain in the free agent market 1754 01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:22,280 Speaker 2: and it's not a sexy free, agent class at the 1755 01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:25,640 Speaker 2: receiver position not. A super sexy draft. Class either but 1756 01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:26,920 Speaker 2: there are answers. 1757 01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:31,680 Speaker 1: There're you have to work hard TO Convince me a 1758 01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:34,479 Speaker 1: guy like t higgins is going to tip the, balance 1759 01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:36,240 Speaker 1: And all of a sudden the bills are going to score. Six, 1760 01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:38,800 Speaker 1: hundred points in a season oh they, already. Did do 1761 01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:42,240 Speaker 1: that without him right they set a franchise. Record for 1762 01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:46,800 Speaker 1: scoring this last year why blow your cow spend twenty, 1763 01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:50,160 Speaker 1: thirty million on a pass rusher not. A wide receiver 1764 01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:54,200 Speaker 1: one you're getting i mean. They, pieced it together last 1765 01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:56,920 Speaker 1: year now certainly They Were, Guys, Who were, Proven amari cooper, 1766 01:26:57,280 --> 01:27:03,360 Speaker 1: curtis samuel maccollins shakir those guys or. Were The vast 1767 01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:09,360 Speaker 1: majority of it they. Josh Is gonna elevate those guys. 1768 01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:12,680 Speaker 1: Joe brady's gonna elevate those guys whoever they get in 1769 01:27:12,720 --> 01:27:14,960 Speaker 1: there is gonna play better than. Than THEY have in. 1770 01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:17,600 Speaker 1: OTHER Places and i get it. T, higgins, Is a 1771 01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:21,000 Speaker 1: great player yes absolutely and we've had people on, our, 1772 01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:22,800 Speaker 1: show this week and said. Wow he'd really make it. 1773 01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:25,440 Speaker 1: Different make what kind of difference they set a franchise 1774 01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:27,600 Speaker 1: record for scoring IN a team that had the. K 1775 01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:31,560 Speaker 1: gun and was killing everybody they scored, thirty points. 1776 01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:34,439 Speaker 4: In eight straight games Twelve total they don't? 1777 01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:37,280 Speaker 1: Who they who's gonna change? That what are you gonna. 1778 01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:41,519 Speaker 1: Change you don't don't. Change anything, you can get defense 1779 01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:45,360 Speaker 1: if somebody if, they put somebody on, the field somebody's 1780 01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:48,960 Speaker 1: gonna sit down and then you know there's. Your net 1781 01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:51,720 Speaker 1: Gain whatever that is certainly. T higgins changes things for you. 1782 01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:54,160 Speaker 1: But what are you gonna do you're gonna target him 1783 01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:59,280 Speaker 1: four times like you did, kincaid because if you start, 1784 01:27:59,320 --> 01:28:02,760 Speaker 1: tugging targeting twelve or fifteen times now your offense is 1785 01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:06,680 Speaker 1: different and you don't score, thirty points in eight straight games. 1786 01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:10,000 Speaker 2: And you gotta fix. Your defense that is the priority you're. 1787 01:28:10,040 --> 01:28:13,000 Speaker 2: Twenty ninth and third down defense the glaring problems are. 1788 01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:15,280 Speaker 2: On that side of the. Ball gotta take a break 1789 01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:17,120 Speaker 2: here one final segment To close It Up Here, in 1790 01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:19,040 Speaker 2: indy On One, Bill's Live Presented By. 1791 01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:20,479 Speaker 4: Colida health it's buffalo bills. 1792 01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:38,400 Speaker 2: Radio All Right, Back Here, On One bill's live. Chris 1793 01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:41,720 Speaker 2: brown steve tasker with you one final question From. The 1794 01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:45,559 Speaker 2: mail bag comes from lauren which positions most easily? Replaceable via, free, 1795 01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:50,479 Speaker 2: agency slash, draft middle linebacker. Cornerback defensive end or, Running 1796 01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:54,240 Speaker 2: back she Thinks It's linebacker so she thinks terrell bernard 1797 01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:57,120 Speaker 2: is least. Likely to be extended this year guy just 1798 01:28:57,160 --> 01:29:00,200 Speaker 2: got named one. Of two captains on the team he's 1799 01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:03,000 Speaker 2: arguably the most instinctive player on. THE defensive side of 1800 01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:06,200 Speaker 2: the ball. I don't think he's going anywhere i think 1801 01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:09,400 Speaker 2: he is. A good candidate for an extension, AND of 1802 01:29:09,439 --> 01:29:11,840 Speaker 2: those positions he listed i would say running back is. 1803 01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:14,760 Speaker 1: The most, easily replaced running BACK to me. It is 1804 01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:18,160 Speaker 1: and i get it we just got through saying don't change. 1805 01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:22,240 Speaker 1: Anything offensively because they're setting records but the difference between 1806 01:29:22,240 --> 01:29:25,080 Speaker 1: an elite running back and a great running back or 1807 01:29:25,080 --> 01:29:28,360 Speaker 1: a good running back is narrower than it is between 1808 01:29:28,360 --> 01:29:31,360 Speaker 1: a great linebacker middle linebacker who calls. A defense and 1809 01:29:31,439 --> 01:29:32,440 Speaker 1: a bad one. 1810 01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:35,040 Speaker 2: I want to take this moment to thank Our Entire crew. 1811 01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:38,479 Speaker 2: Back in our orchard park studios, they've done yeomen's work back. 1812 01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:41,880 Speaker 2: There recording interviews among other things so thanks to them 1813 01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:45,000 Speaker 2: for helping us make this week, possible covering the combine 1814 01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:47,599 Speaker 2: for you as well as to our crew here who's, 1815 01:29:47,640 --> 01:29:51,320 Speaker 2: been working hard despite you know a. Lot of work 1816 01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:53,280 Speaker 2: in long, hours we'll see you next week 1817 01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:00,200 Speaker 3: Ya