1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: The Bloomberg Interrupted Broker Studios. This is Bloomberg Daybreak for Friday, 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: April twenty. First coming up today, the US plans to 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: limit more investment in China. We have the latest on 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: this Bloomberg exclusive. President Biden may formally launch his reelection 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: bid as early as next week. 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 2: The SpaceX launch ends in flames, but still claim some 7 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 2: big wins for space exploration and more. 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 3: FED officials make the case for more rate heights. 9 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 4: Charges against actor Alec Baldwinner dropped in a fatal onset 10 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 4: shooting pluses a big rent increase in the future for 11 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 4: New York rent control departments. I'm Michael Barr Moore Ahead, 12 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 4: I'm John Stash. 13 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 5: Aaron sports the Rangers with another five to one win 14 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 5: at New Jersey, another Nets loss to the Sixers, wins 15 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 5: for the Mets and Yankees. 16 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 6: That's all straight Ahead on Bloomberg day Break, the business 17 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 6: news you need to sturn your day in just one 18 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 6: fifteen minute podcast each morning on Apples, Spotify, the Bloomberg 19 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 6: Business Appen everywhere you get your podcasts. 20 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. 21 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: And I'm Amy Morris. Here are the stories we're following today. 22 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 2: Bloomberg News has learned President Biden plans to crack down 23 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 2: on US investment in key parts of the Chinese economy. 24 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 2: We get more from Bloomberg Chief Asia correspondent Steven Engle. 25 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 7: These new curbs would be done through executive order in 26 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 7: the coming weeks that could limit American investment in key 27 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 7: parts of the economy, particularly some of these advanced technologies 28 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 7: that the fear is could end up in the hands 29 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 7: of the Chinese military. Again, we're talking semiconductors, artificial intelligence, 30 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 7: quantum computing, and again it's going to focus on investments 31 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 7: where US firms play active roles in management, So that 32 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 7: includes of course venture capital, private equity, those industries already 33 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 7: feeling the chill of the US China bifurcation. 34 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: Bloomberg Chief Asia correspondent Steven Engle says the Biden administration 35 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 2: plans to take action around the time of the G 36 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 2: seven summit in Japan next month. 37 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Nathan Press sident Biden is eyeing a re election 38 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: announcement as soon as next week. Bloomberg's Ed Baxter has 39 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: that story. 40 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 8: Biden's aide's have planned for the possibility of making a 41 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 8: video announcement to coincide with the anniversary of his previous 42 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 8: campaign launch. He has time to do it, of course, 43 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 8: but Third Way co founder Matt Bennett says they may 44 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 8: be feeling pressure to go now. 45 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 9: I think they've decided that there's enough people asking questions 46 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 9: that they have to say something. But the problem is 47 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 9: there's no real imperative if you're the president to file, 48 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 9: because you've got the White House, you've got the logistical 49 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 9: support of the White House. 50 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 8: This, of course, could set up a Biden Trump rematch 51 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 8: in San Francisco. I'm at Baxter Bloomberg Daybreak. 52 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 4: Thank you, Ed. 53 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,239 Speaker 2: Now let's get to the latest on the debt ceiling 54 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 2: debate in Washington. Democratic Senator Joe Manchin of West Virginia 55 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 2: is calling on the White House to quote negotiate now. 56 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 2: He is praising Republican House Speaker Kevin McCarthy for putting 57 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 2: out a debt limit proposal that cuts spending. We got 58 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: reaction from Democratic Congressman Brendan Boyle of Pennsylvania. 59 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 10: Obviously, Democrats are ready willing and able to negotiate with 60 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 10: Republicans on future spending. What we are not willing to 61 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 10: do is to give up anything in order to get 62 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 10: Republicans to do what is their responsibility, and that has 63 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 10: put a bill on the floor to raise the debt ceiling. 64 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 11: Queen. 65 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Republican Congressman Brian Donalds of Florida says, the Democrats 66 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 2: have created this impass. 67 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 11: When they passed they Omibus spending bill right before Christmas, 68 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 11: they could have increased the debt ceiling at that time. 69 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 11: They chose not to. They did not want to do it, 70 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 11: so they could have done it. Then they didn't want 71 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 11: to do it. They wanted to set up this, this sprinksmanship, 72 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 11: this fight, if you will, around the debt ceiling. 73 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 2: Congressman Donald's and Boyle were guests on Bloomberg's Sound On 74 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 2: with Joe Matthew and Kaylee Lines. Catch the show weekdays 75 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 2: at one pm Eastern on Bloomberg Radio. 76 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: And we now turn our attention to the Space program. 77 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: Engineers still trying to figure out what happened, but the 78 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: explosion of Elon Musk's space X starship yesterday shows just 79 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: how far he is from the Moon. 80 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 3: For the latest, we are joined by Bloomberg's John Tucker. 81 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 3: Good morning John, Yeah. 82 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 12: Good morning Amy. The initial launch of the most powerful 83 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 12: rocketing in the world appeared to be picture perfect, but 84 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 12: then four minutes later, high above the hazy Texas skies, 85 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 12: the uncrewed Starship exploded. And this is how the SpaceX 86 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 12: commentator described it. 87 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 13: Starship just experienced what we call a rapid unscheduled disassembly. 88 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 12: Well before the explosion, a few of the thirty three 89 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 12: Raptor engines appeared to flame out. The super heavy booster 90 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 12: was supposed to separate. That never happened. SpaceX says the 91 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 12: explode of the rocket on purpose when it started tumbling 92 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 12: through the sky. NASA's said its goal is to use 93 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 12: Starship to land people on the Moon in twenty twenty five, 94 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 12: but first Starship will need to prove it can get 95 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 12: into space in one piece. Live in New York. I'm 96 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 12: John Tucker Bloomberg, daybreak. 97 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 2: All right, John, thank you. It was certainly an eventful 98 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 2: day for Elon Musk. His wealth plunged almost thirteen billion 99 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: dollars to one hundred and sixty four billion after Tesla's 100 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 2: disappointing earnings. The stock dropped almost ten percent yesterday and 101 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 2: now it's for couping some of that up one and 102 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 2: a half percent in the pre market. The electrical vehicle 103 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 2: maker says it's boosting prices on its Model S and 104 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 2: X vehicles in the US. 105 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: Turning to the economy, FED officials making the case for 106 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: another rate high. 107 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 3: Cleveland FED President Lorettamester, I. 108 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 14: Anticipate that monetary policy will need to move somewhat further 109 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 14: into restrictive territory this year, but FED funds rate moving 110 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 14: above five percent and the real FED funds rates staying 111 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 14: in positive territory for some time. 112 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: Cleveland FED President Loretta Mester says, well, rates move higher. 113 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: The FED is monitoring the economic fallout from stresses on 114 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: the banking system. 115 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 2: Well, that recent termoil that hit regional banks amy did 116 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 2: not rise to the level of crisis. That's according to 117 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 2: Bank of America CEO Brian moynihan. 118 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 15: Well, I think at the end of the day, crisis 119 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 15: is too strong a word, and words like that get 120 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 15: used a lot. But at the end there was a 121 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 15: fair amount of disruption for a few weeks there. Well, 122 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 15: certain business models were sorted through, But on the other hand, 123 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 15: you could see and we could see the stability in 124 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 15: the other business models. 125 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 2: Bank of America's Brian moynihan spoken an interview with Bloomberg's 126 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 2: David Weston, and a. 127 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: Developing story out of Europe. This morning, UK Prime Minister 128 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: Rishis Sunex's deputy Dominique Robb has quit his post. The 129 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: resignation comes after an independent investigation criticized Rob's behavior toward 130 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 1: civil servants. This is Bloomberg. 131 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 2: Early fifty three degrees in New York. We'll have a 132 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 2: mix of sun and clouds today. Highs in the upper sixties, 133 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 2: getting down to the mid fifties tonight. Tim now to 134 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 2: take a look at some of the other stories making 135 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 2: news in New York and around the world with Bloomberg's 136 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 2: Michael Barr. Good morning, Michael, Good morning, Nathan. 137 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 4: Attorneys for actor Alec Baldwin say New Mexico prosecutors are 138 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 4: dropping the involuntary manslaughter charge against the movie star. While 139 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 4: rehearsing for the film Rust in twenty twenty one, the 140 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 4: prop gun Baldwin was holding went off, killing cinematographer Elena 141 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 4: Hutchins and injuring direct to Joel Susa. A few months 142 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 4: after the shooting, Baldwin claimed to ABC's George Stephanopolis that 143 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 4: he never actually fired the weapon. 144 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 3: It wasn't in the script for the trigger. 145 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 11: To be pulled. Well the trigger wasn't pulled. 146 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 3: I didn't pull the trigger, so you never pulled the trigger. 147 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 11: No, no, no, no no. I would never point to 148 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 11: go to pull a trigger at them. 149 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 10: Never. 150 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 4: The film's armorer, Hannah Gutierra's Reid, was also charged with 151 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 4: involuntary manslaughter and pleaded not guilty. Her pre trial hearing 152 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 4: is scheduled next month. The New York City Rent Guidelines 153 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 4: Board is considering a significant rent increase. It would affect 154 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 4: close to one million rents stabilized apartments. Mayor Adam's appointed 155 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 4: panel suggested an increase of almost sixteen percent for two 156 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 4: year leases, which would be the largest increase in decades. 157 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 4: It would be an eight and a half percent hike 158 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 4: for one year leases. The Supreme Court is facing a 159 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 4: self imposed deadline tonight to decide whether women's access to 160 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 4: a widely used abortion pill will stay unchanged. The justices 161 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 4: are when arguments allowing restrictions of a lower court involving 162 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 4: the FDA approved drug mifipristone. There are allegations that the 163 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 4: investigation into Hunter Biden is being mishandled and that President 164 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 4: Biden's son has been getting preferential treatment. The Justice Department 165 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 4: says that the Hunter Biden investigation is not being watered 166 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 4: down because he's the President's son. A whistleblower from the 167 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 4: IRS disagrees with that. Democratic Senator Richard Blumenthal was asked 168 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 4: about the Hunter Biden case so. 169 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 16: Much today it is politicized. We need to look at 170 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 16: the facts, follow both the facts and the law, and 171 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,839 Speaker 16: really takes seriously any allegations, but at the same time 172 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 16: review what is missing from those allegations as. 173 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 4: Well as what's the Senator Blumenthal of Connecticut says, there 174 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 4: is less here than meets the eye. Global News twenty 175 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 4: four hours a day, powered by more than twenty seven 176 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 4: hundred journalist and anailists and over one hundred and twenty countries. 177 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 4: I'm Michael Barr. This is Bloomberg. 178 00:08:59,320 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 11: Nathan. 179 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 2: Thanks Michael. Time now for the Bloomberg Sports Update. Good morning, 180 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 2: John Stanshall. 181 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 5: Good morning, Nathan. Little deja vu in New Jersey Rangers 182 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 5: and Devil's Game two, and just like Game one, the 183 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 5: Rangers won by a five to one score. In both games, 184 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 5: Vladimir Terra Senko scored a goal and in both games 185 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 5: Chris Krider scored two, with both coming on the power play. 186 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 5: Rangers also got third period goals when Patrick Kine and 187 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 5: kappokact I was surprising how easily the Rangers have taken 188 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 5: the two nothing series lead. We'll see what happens when 189 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 5: the series moves across the Hudson. Game three tomorrow at 190 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 5: the Garden, where tonight it's the Nixon Cavs their Game 191 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 5: three that series tied at one. Cleveland coming off the 192 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 5: lopsided win in Game two, the Nets will face elimination 193 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 5: tomorrow afternoon at Barkley's where Philadelphia just went up three 194 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 5: games to none. Nets were down twelve, had a twenty 195 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 5: three to five run on the third courter and take 196 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 5: the lead, but Philly pulled it out one oh two 197 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 5: ninety seven tires. Maxi has surprisingly been the Sixers best 198 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 5: player in this series. He scored twenty five points. Mckel 199 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 5: Bridges led Brooklyn with twenty six. Devin Booker scored forty five. 200 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 5: Phoenix beat the Clippers for a two to one series lead. 201 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 5: Steph Curry scored thirty six Golden State over Sacramento, king 202 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 5: still on a two to one lead. Also in San 203 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 5: Francisco last night, the Mets made it seven or last eight, 204 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 5: scored five runs on the fourth inning It was then 205 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 5: five to four. In the fifth, Mets pulled away beat 206 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 5: the Giants nine to four home runs for Jeff McNeil, 207 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 5: Eduardo Escobar and Pete Alonzo with his already ninth of 208 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 5: the season. He leads the majors with so many injured 209 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 5: starting pitchers. Good thing the Mets signed CODEI Seinga. He's 210 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 5: three and zero. Max Scherzer is appealing the ten games 211 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 5: suspension he got for his ejection for sticky stuff. He's 212 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 5: cleaned his innocence at the stadium. Yankees meet the Angels 213 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 5: nine to three of five run first inning, with Jose 214 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 5: Travino getting the three run double. 215 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 4: Yanks have yet to lose a series. 216 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 5: They start wing tonight in the Bronx with Toronto Don Stashiellwer. 217 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 3: Bloomberg Sports. 218 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 6: Live from coast to coast, from New York to San Francisco, 219 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 6: Boston to Washington, d C. Nationwide on Sirius XM, The 220 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 6: Bloomberg Business Appen BOMG dot com. 221 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,239 Speaker 3: This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 222 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 2: Good morning. I'm Nathan Hager. Don't call it a crisis. 223 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 2: That's the message from Bank of America Chief Executive Brian moynihan, 224 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 2: who says recent regional bank turmoil did not rise to 225 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 2: a crisis level. In a conversation with Bloomberg's David Weston 226 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 2: during Bloomberg's sell side leaders for him in New York City, 227 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 2: moynihan said the deposit insurance covered by lenders did a 228 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 2: good job of protecting consumers. He says he has no 229 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 2: doubts that the American banking system is in good shape. 230 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 2: Let's bring you part of that discussion. 231 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 13: Now that we are where we are looking back over it. 232 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 13: What do we take away from it? Was this a 233 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 13: banking crisis, Was it a mild disruption, was it a tremor? 234 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 8: What was it? 235 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 13: What is going to linger from it? 236 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 15: Well, I think at the end of day, crisis is 237 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 15: too strong a word, and words like that get used 238 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 15: a lot. But at the end there was a fair 239 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 15: amount of disruption for a few weeks there. Well, certain 240 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 15: business models were sorted through. On the other hand, you 241 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 15: could see and we could see the stability and the 242 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 15: other business models which would the way way banking is 243 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 15: down very grand learn business and stuff. And so the 244 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 15: good news is you're seeing the earnings by the broad 245 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 15: industry come out this week. You're seeing things have sort 246 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 15: of played out that way, which is very specific business 247 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 15: models because the unique circumstances of the last twenty four 248 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:25,239 Speaker 15: months of thirty six months of massive amounts of cash 249 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 15: putting the system and then rates changing caught people and 250 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 15: those had to be sorted out. The good news is 251 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 15: the basic industry is to reported good earnings across the board. 252 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 15: Deposits have come down, but that's intended by the FED 253 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 15: taking money out of the system. It's got to come 254 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 15: out of somewhere. Banking system is what they want to 255 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 15: do to you, frankly, make credit tighter and help slow 256 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 15: down the economy. So that's gone on, but you look 257 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 15: at the capital, liquidity and earnings power of all these 258 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 15: companies have been tremendous and that's that's reassuring to people, 259 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 15: and that's good news because in the end of the day, 260 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 15: the banking system reflects economy and American economies around the world, 261 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 15: and you hope it's in good shape, and it is. 262 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 15: There's no question it's good. 263 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 10: Shit. 264 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 13: How the regulators do We were talking to them through 265 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 13: this period of time and they stepped in obviously took 266 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 13: the deposit insurance, and do you think they should be 267 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 13: making changes with future to make sure we don't go 268 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 13: through this again. 269 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 15: I think there will be a time to look at 270 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 15: the deposit insurance scheme in a rational way. It's never 271 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 15: the time to look at any of the stuff the 272 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 15: day after it happens, because people have opinions of what 273 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 15: happened never turns out to be as true as they thought. 274 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 15: And even in the financial crisis, there are a lot 275 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 15: of opinions about it started with Leming, well, that was 276 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 15: the last part of it. It started in two thousand 277 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 15: and six from what happened. Housing prices quick going up, 278 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 15: and so it took a little more rational thought to 279 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 15: think through all the different things that happened. So I 280 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 15: think the debate will be for transactional accounts should there 281 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 15: during the financial crisis two thousand and eight nine, I think, 282 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 15: going on for three or four years, there was a 283 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 15: guaranteed transaction accounts so the individual smaller companies didn't have 284 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 15: to be cash managed every day and figure out where 285 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 15: that the money was. And that's a scheme you could 286 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 15: do either sort of transaction money in the banking system. 287 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 15: There's savings money in the banking system, and the savings 288 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 15: money and banking system is there to get rate and 289 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 15: return the transaction money is there to help the economy going, 290 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 15: and the idea is you can ensure that more fully. 291 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 15: And that's what they did in the financial crisis to 292 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 15: stop people figure out in the end of the day, 293 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 15: a scheme like that would have changed nature of what 294 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 15: went on here because people were running around trying to 295 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 15: figure out is there two thousand, two fifty thousand dollars 296 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 15: in one in a small business or an entrepreneurial thing 297 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 15: or a big company. And so I think there'll be 298 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 15: time to talk about that. We'll see a playout. It's 299 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 15: worked pretty well. This is nice because the banking industry 300 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 15: pays for its own airs and then we have a 301 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 15: high instinct to clean it up. And so I think 302 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 15: playing with the thought process how to be carefully dealt 303 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 15: with only because it's been in place since the thirties 304 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 15: and it's worked pretty well. 305 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 13: Your bank and some others stepped in with First republic 306 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 13: to help them also deposit. It's led it reported by 307 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 13: Jamie Diamond. Is that something we should expect in the future. 308 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 13: I mean, is it First Republican to need more or 309 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 13: will other banks need more from the other banks. 310 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 15: I don't have any special ins about First Republic, talk 311 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 15: about why we did as an industry. It was to 312 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 15: stabilize one of our companies and provide liquidity because it 313 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 15: was a liquidy question. 314 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 6: They asked. 315 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 11: It's good. 316 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 15: This is kind of the odd thing because if you 317 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 15: if you're around, and if you're old enough to be 318 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 15: around in the late ads and nineties, that is when 319 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 15: the banking christ won. People think the GFC so called 320 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 15: was a banking crisis. Actually the issue is those companies 321 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 15: weren't banks. So whether it was all the different companies 322 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 15: you heard about that you know, caused trouble and cleaning, 323 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 15: they weren't banks, and they were brought in the banking 324 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 15: system put an umbrella around them so they could fix them. Wait, 325 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 15: in late ays and early nineties, you had a highly inflationary, 326 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 15: high interest rate environment of commercial real estate, and that 327 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 15: was that was a banking crisis. And so that that's 328 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 15: different and it happens at a slower pace, and so 329 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 15: we were able to step in and help because that 330 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 15: was an asset quality problem. Commercial real estate rolling real 331 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 15: estate started in Texas and oil and all this stuff. 332 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 15: You just ran through all the regional economies and these 333 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 15: companies had. 334 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 4: Great ask quality. 335 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 15: It's just they had a liquidity problem and that's why 336 00:15:57,960 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 15: we put the deposit in and it worked. 337 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 2: That was Bank of America CEO Brian moynihan speaking with 338 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's David Weston at Bloomberg's Sell SI Leaders Forum in 339 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 2: New York City. 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