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Speaker 2: All right, we're back. We're back here in Bradenton with

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Speaker 2: the manager. I still it's still to me like when

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Speaker 2: I say that about you, because I just remember when

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Speaker 2: long time ago. Then you been bench coach. So Derek

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Speaker 2: What years this for you? You're six? We had this art,

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Speaker 2: We had a conversation about this. So twenty twenty took over.

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Speaker 2: Twenty twe I took over.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, COVID.

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Speaker 2: You came in, and you brought COVID.

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Speaker 4: I brought in and came in and spring training stopped,

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Speaker 4: and yeah it was great.

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Speaker 5: It was great. Lead a zoom call. Yeah, Well, is

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Speaker 5: anyone I want to buy my hitting tool?

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Speaker 3: Oh? You still have that?

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Speaker 4: I still have it's the thing with the ball, right,

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I forgot about that. I forgot about that, man.

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Speaker 2: So what's the what's the feel here in Pirates Camp

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Speaker 4: I'm really good vibe. I mean a lot of energy,

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Speaker 2: How good can it be? How good can your pitching?

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Speaker 2: I mean Skeens like, helly, can you get this sign

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Speaker 4: He's not easy to I mean, you can find him.

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Speaker 4: You can find him him, man, But I haven't seen

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Speaker 4: Right, Bato heeny. We just signed me right the Bailey Falter.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we've done our pitching group has done a

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, you don't sit in that spot

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Speaker 5: to do this this year, we have to do that.

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Speaker 2: Agree, all right? So I got to ask this because

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Speaker 2: Can he do that for thirty starts this year?

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Speaker 4: I think our hope is yes. And I think one

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Speaker 5: What is the catching situation looking like because of the

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Speaker 4: I mean, Joey's gonna get the bulk. I mean he's

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Speaker 2: How bad was it? Because yeah, I mean, obviously the

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Speaker 2: You're still gonna be You're still gonna be willing him

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Speaker 4: Let me tell you what if he controls his own

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Speaker 5: Like we talk about overexposure, you talk about a guy

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Speaker 5: But is there a fear of overexposure for a guy

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Speaker 4: I think it's just a matter how the body hold up.

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Speaker 2: Every day.

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Speaker 4: So if that's a day off a week, two days

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Speaker 2: He definitely gets you out there. Oh come on, now

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445
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447
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Speaker 2: We got we got a guy here, X teammate the

460
00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:09,440
Speaker 2: month X Teammate, do you play with crowds. Come on, man,

461
00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:10,840
Speaker 2: you played everybody he's.

462
00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:12,280
Speaker 3: Playing were crowds.

463
00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:13,360
Speaker 2: That was his last good year.

464
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Speaker 9: I got it right, Hey, man, I think by the

465
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Speaker 9: end of this, give me two years, I might have everybody.

466
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Speaker 3: Man, the whole league.

467
00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:23,280
Speaker 2: You might have the whole league.

468
00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,480
Speaker 3: Three years, I might I might pass ej.

469
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Speaker 2: Hey, Tommy fam is here with us, uh here in

470
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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh camp. What's it like? What's it like? Another team?

471
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Speaker 2: Another spring training? How many?

472
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Speaker 3: This is? What?

473
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Speaker 2: This would be?

474
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Speaker 6: Ten?

475
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Speaker 9: T just checking them all off? Man, you know what's

476
00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,199
Speaker 9: this three? Or this is seven in the last three years.

477
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Speaker 9: You know, I blame our cd A, but hey, just

478
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Speaker 9: a player.

479
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Speaker 2: Just keep you going on. Let me fix your People

480
00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:53,840
Speaker 2: want to hear your that sweet voice. You know, people

481
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Speaker 2: want to hear what you have to say. So you

482
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Speaker 2: say the CBA he's fixing You mean for veteran guys, right,

483
00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,359
Speaker 2: because that was always a thing like the veteran guys

484
00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,399
Speaker 2: like yourself that can bring a lot to a team

485
00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:10,760
Speaker 2: as far as at bad preparation, approach, work ethic, things

486
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Speaker 2: like that kind of get squeezed out because they're like, oh,

487
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Speaker 2: we can bind a rookie that can do this, you know,

488
00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:16,520
Speaker 2: but it's not the same thing, right.

489
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Speaker 9: I think, you know, I can't talk too much about it,

490
00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:24,760
Speaker 9: you know, per our rules, but I do feel like,

491
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Speaker 9: you know, the free agency ain't really like free agency

492
00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,240
Speaker 9: no more. The trade deadline is really free agency. You know,

493
00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,960
Speaker 9: the middle tier players like myself. Now, unless I go

494
00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,480
Speaker 9: out there and put up some numbers like I used to,

495
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Speaker 9: the middle tier is is really the free agent market

496
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Speaker 9: around July.

497
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Speaker 2: Makes sense? I mean Brandon Belt two years ago played

498
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Speaker 2: for the Blue Jays.

499
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he had a great year. Man, you look at

500
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Speaker 3: his numbers.

501
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Speaker 5: If you say, yeah, you know, I want to come

502
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Speaker 5: into Pittsburgh, I want to have a OPS plus, you'd

503
00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,040
Speaker 5: be like, I'm looking for a multi year deal the

504
00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:04,480
Speaker 5: next year.

505
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Speaker 2: Brandon Bell hasn't been back in the game since.

506
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Speaker 9: Yeah, that's kind of you know, the market is what

507
00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,320
Speaker 9: it is. You know, I had to face the reality

508
00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:18,560
Speaker 9: of after twenty three. You know what I finished making

509
00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,040
Speaker 9: with my incentives eight mil, and I had a better

510
00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,359
Speaker 9: year than you know, the market for me was was

511
00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,760
Speaker 9: four mil, four or five mils. So I had a

512
00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:30,960
Speaker 9: hard time understanding that. But it's really what they want

513
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Speaker 9: to pay you.

514
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Speaker 2: Let's talk about something a little more a little more positive.

515
00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,080
Speaker 2: You got to go back to Saint Louis last year.

516
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Speaker 2: What was that like? What was that like? When you

517
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Speaker 2: walk back into Bush Stadium and the fans, I mean

518
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Speaker 2: they gave you a standing ovation that like, what was

519
00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:45,760
Speaker 2: that like?

520
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Speaker 3: That was really cool.

521
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Speaker 9: That's that's probably one of the the best moments of

522
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Speaker 9: my career so far. You know, going back to the

523
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Speaker 9: LIU where it all started. You know, they they brought

524
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Speaker 9: me up, taught me the game, taught me how to

525
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Speaker 9: play the right way. Going back, walking into the locker room,

526
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:05,040
Speaker 9: being embraced by you know, everybody there had me in

527
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,480
Speaker 9: the minor leagues, in the big league, so it's it's

528
00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,119
Speaker 9: it was like a welcome home party. Then you know,

529
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Speaker 9: you see car Lynn, you know, my old old teammates,

530
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Speaker 9: and coming up late in the game in that big moment,

531
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Speaker 9: pinch hit at bat, the the fans give you a

532
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,640
Speaker 9: standing ovation, and you know you're feeling good, you got

533
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,960
Speaker 9: the butterflies all in you and and just to top

534
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,520
Speaker 9: it off with with the hit was even better.

535
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Speaker 3: It's something that I'll always embrace.

536
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,600
Speaker 5: We're talking they're talking about rebooting, rebuilding over in Saint Louis.

537
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Speaker 5: The gap of time that you had from when you

538
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Speaker 5: came up till last year, the little bit time that

539
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Speaker 5: you spent there, could you see a difference in the

540
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 5: sense of like a certain like, ah, you know, they

541
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Speaker 5: don't do this anymore, they don't do that anymore.

542
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Speaker 9: It was different when when I came up. You know,

543
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Speaker 9: AJ was there when I came up fourteen, We showed

544
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 9: up at twelve o'clock. My cage work was done by

545
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Speaker 9: one point thirty as a rookie.

546
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Speaker 2: As a rookie, I had to come with you because

547
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Speaker 2: I wasn't playing either.

548
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Speaker 9: So yeah, then you know, then then I was I

549
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 9: was out of the weight room and training room by

550
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Speaker 9: three so from three to.

551
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Speaker 3: To BP time.

552
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 9: Then after BEATP time, it was really just me staying

553
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Speaker 9: out of the way of the beds.

554
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Speaker 3: But it taught me discipline.

555
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Speaker 9: You know, I was very disciplined in the in the

556
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Speaker 9: way that I showed up every day.

557
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Speaker 3: I made sure all my work was done.

558
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Speaker 9: I checked off every box and then then in the downtime, I.

559
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Speaker 3: Just watched video and watched how guys prepared. So it

560
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Speaker 3: was different.

561
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Speaker 9: You know, back then we were doing all the video,

562
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Speaker 9: which I actually felt comfortable of doing because you.

563
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Speaker 3: Know, you as a as a player, you're gonna you're

564
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Speaker 3: gonna always trust your work.

565
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Speaker 9: So when I'm doing video and doing defensive positioning on

566
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Speaker 9: on from what I see on video and going out

567
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 9: there and applying it to the game versus now, you

568
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Speaker 9: know you don't have to do that. You're you're giving

569
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Speaker 9: a card. So but then it's you know, you're putting

570
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Speaker 9: the trust of someone else in your hands. That's the

571
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Speaker 9: only downside to it. What was different just kind of

572
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Speaker 9: how the younger guys moved compared to when I was there.

573
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Speaker 9: I moved a lot different. I was way more respectful

574
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Speaker 9: of the veterans. It's just this kind of way. It's

575
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Speaker 9: just where the game is now.

576
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 2: Interested So you're hearing Pirates camp, you're the veteran. Now

577
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,120
Speaker 2: you can cut. You're like the guys.

578
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 3: Man, I got ten.

579
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Speaker 2: So what's it like? What what is it? Do you

580
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,120
Speaker 2: go to guys and say, hey, listen, this is it bat?

581
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 2: Do you reach out to guys? You wait for guys

582
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Speaker 2: to come to you and what can you bring to

583
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Speaker 2: this Pirates offense? Because last year, you know, low LBP,

584
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 2: not a lot of run score, So what's your approach

585
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 2: to these guys? They wait for them to come to you.

586
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 3: That's something that we've we've talked about.

587
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 2: Hold on, you could be intimidating now people know, people

588
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 2: know who you are, right, It's not like.

589
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 9: We got a we got a whole coaching staff that

590
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 9: that trans juditsu in the morning. So you know, they're

591
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 9: they're trying to get me in at five thirty. But

592
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 9: that's a little bit too early for me. But guys

593
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 9: have been coming to me. I've been also telling guys

594
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 9: like the importance of of the game just I don't

595
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Speaker 9: think people understand the average service time is is getting

596
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 9: way down. You know, when I broke in in fourteen,

597
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 9: the average service time was five and a half years,

598
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Speaker 9: and then around our last CBA it was three and

599
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Speaker 9: a half. As of last year it dipped under three.

600
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 9: So guys aren't even getting three years anymore. In the

601
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 9: game getting you're getting rushed up, you.

602
00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,080
Speaker 3: Getting in and out, and you know, I I.

603
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Speaker 9: Just want to try to explain to guys, you know,

604
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 9: how to get longevity. You know, certain things like the

605
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 9: value of a walk, making sure that all aspects of

606
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 9: your game is what we what the game will consider

607
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 9: above average. You know, defensively, are you checking off boxes?

608
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 9: You know, are you working on your defense, Are you

609
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,159
Speaker 9: working on your base running? Are you working on your

610
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,160
Speaker 9: swing every day? You know, every aspect of the game

611
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 9: that you could be better at to help the team win.

612
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 9: But there's offensively, we we've talked about the value of

613
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 9: a of a of a good at bad. You know,

614
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 9: we tend to look at really seven things, getting a hit,

615
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 9: hitting the ball over ninety five, getting a walk, a

616
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 9: hit by pitch, moving a runner over, you know, sack sackfly,

617
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 9: You know, are you producing those outcomes? Are you producing

618
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 9: those outcomes to you know, to help the team. So

619
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 9: there's a lot of stuff we talk about, you know,

620
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 9: and and also you know, if you're doing those things,

621
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 9: you know, you're usually gonna be a pretty solid player

622
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 9: to get longevity in the game.

623
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Speaker 2: How long until you do this in the game? I mean,

624
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Speaker 2: are you gonna be the first of the pirates tried

625
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 2: out the old abs?

626
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:25,360
Speaker 3: Yet?

627
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 2: Are you gonna be the first one to give the

628
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 2: old helmet?

629
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Speaker 3: Tab? I might? You know, I'm still adjusting to the abs.

630
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Speaker 9: Honestly, what I'm learning is their zone is a little

631
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 9: bit lower than what I anticipated. And the top of

632
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 9: my zone is is not the top of their zone.

633
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 9: So there's an adjustment period for me that I'm that

634
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 9: I have to familiarize myself with. Of course, the more

635
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 9: I see this, the better I'm the sharper I'm gonna

636
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 9: get because I'm a guy that, generally speaking, is one

637
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,919
Speaker 9: of the lowest chase guys in the league. So I

638
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 9: will get better at it long as I just you know,

639
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 9: keep practicing, keep working at it. But I can imagine

640
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 9: it will probably come into the league really real soon.

641
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 9: I've heard rumors about it as far as money to

642
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 9: be made within it, as far as batting sponsorship.

643
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 3: It's coming. It's coming, to let you guys know. How soon.

644
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 9: I don't know, but it's coming because there's money to

645
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 9: be made in the ABS system.

646
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 3: Believe it or not.

647
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 2: Practice in spring training. Yeah, I mean, you got ten

648
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 2: plus years, you know, what's what's Derek Shung is saying, No,

649
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 2: I mean we don't. We got one of the best

650
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 2: guys in the game. We don't want you challenge and

651
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 2: I don't know.

652
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 9: I feel like you got to pick your right spots,

653
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 9: you know, because you only have two. I would be

654
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 9: when it comes. I would love for every player to

655
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 9: have won a game. It shouldn't be two it should

656
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 9: be every player should get one. You know, it looks

657
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 9: like it works really quick, So why not give every

658
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 9: guy his his challenge. If you miss it, lost it,

659
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 9: if you if you get it, you still have it.

660
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 9: I'm in favor of that. But right now with two,

661
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 9: you gotta be real. You gotta be real kind of

662
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 9: technical with when you pick and choose it, because a

663
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 9: big situation of the game, you know, and if if

664
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 9: you already used them previously and you got runners on

665
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 9: let's say second and third, and you know you got

666
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,120
Speaker 9: a a two to two county, you just get wrung

667
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 9: up on a bad call, you're gonna need that challenge.

668
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 3: So you're gonna have to be smart when you choose it.

669
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 2: For sure.

670
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 5: For sure, we got you got some time, You got

671
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 5: some time to practice it. You see what was going

672
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 5: on in Boston with.

673
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 2: Bragman coming over.

674
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 5: Endeavor's the dude that's got you know, one hundred more

675
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 5: years left on his contract, yeah.

676
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 2: And like two hundred more million one One, what do

677
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 2: you think about that situation?

678
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 3: And two?

679
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 5: How would you have gone about it or how would

680
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 5: you have you know, told those guys to go about it?

681
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 3: I get it from both sides.

682
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 9: You know, to be honest with you guys, you know,

683
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 9: Reregman is one of the best defense third basement in

684
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 9: the game.

685
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 3: I get it.

686
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 9: But you know, also Devers has been through, been with

687
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 9: that organization from day one, and he's put in he's

688
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 9: put in his time there.

689
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 3: I get it.

690
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 9: If anything, I would be happy as an organization with

691
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 9: Devers saying it's it's my job because now you know,

692
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 9: you got to go back out there and back it up.

693
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 9: You know, if if you're if he goes out there

694
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 9: and he you know, he shows he's an average field

695
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 9: fielder at bet or at worse and and and better,

696
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 9: then hey, you got a guy that that that's motivated

697
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 9: now that's gonna go out there and put in the

698
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 9: extra work to to prove himself and help the team.

699
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 9: So I get it from both fans. Man, you gotta

700
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 9: look at it from both spectrums. But then again, you

701
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 9: know Bregman coming in, he's the guy. It's a tough

702
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 9: situation that I really wantn't I I wouldn't want to

703
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 9: be a part of.

704
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 3: You know.

705
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 9: If anything, I feel like, you know, the Red Sox

706
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 9: should have talked to Debris before they signed him.

707
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So that's just a little bit, all right

708
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 2: before we let you go. I know you got stuff,

709
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 2: get work to get done, and you can tell me

710
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 2: how to talk about it. But you showed me something.

711
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 2: And if you won't want to talk about it, I

712
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 2: get it. But you showed me something when I talked

713
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,479
Speaker 2: to you, and it's something that I said was one

714
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 2: of the coolest things I'd ever seen. Yeah, so people

715
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 2: that don't know out there. He has an eye thing

716
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 2: and my son has the same eye thing, and Tommy

717
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 2: and I talked about it and my son he helped

718
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 2: me get my son through it. And then I said

719
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 2: to him, He said, well, what does your son to

720
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 2: do want to do? And I said, I think he

721
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 2: wants to be an optometrist because of what they went through.

722
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 2: And then what did you show me on your phone?

723
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 2: And I was like, that might be I don't want

724
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 2: to talk about, but you gotta people need to know

725
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 2: this because it's one of the coolest things I've.

726
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 3: Ever seen, a little certificate of for optometry. You know.

727
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 9: In this process of mind and playing baseball with Carrotacona's

728
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 9: I've I've had to educate myself on the condition to

729
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 9: help myself help doctors in the process, because as you

730
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 9: get older, your eyes kind of lose its ability to accommodate.

731
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 9: That that happens with everybody. So you know, when you're

732
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 9: a little kid, you can literally read something this close,

733
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 9: and as you get older, you're like, oh, I need

734
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 9: reading glasses because you lose the ability to accommodate. So

735
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 9: I've had to educate myself on everything on the field

736
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 9: of optometry to help myself play better. And in this process.

737
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 3: You know, I'm.

738
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 9: I'm kind of figuring out, like, all right, do I

739
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 9: want to help Do I want to get in the

740
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 9: ifield after I'm done playing to help other athletes, or

741
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 9: or you know, do I want to stay in the game.

742
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 3: I'm I'm trying to figure myself.

743
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 9: Out, but ideally I would love to play, you know,

744
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 9: four more years.

745
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 3: I work for it, work hard for it.

746
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 9: I do understand you got to go out there and produce,

747
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 9: So I'm working on that as well.

748
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 2: So we have to call you doctor fam from now on.

749
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 9: I feel like anybody that made it to the big

750
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 9: league should be called doctor fan because we doctor I mean,

751
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 9: I'm sorry, not doctor fan, doctor whatever, because we doctored

752
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 9: in baseball.

753
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you got a certificate for it.

754
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 6: Yeah.

755
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 2: No, but man, he's been taking classes.

756
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 3: That's like one of the time.

757
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 2: So I mean in his downtime taking taking classes to learn.

758
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 2: I mean that's pretty awesome, man. All I fellas, I

759
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 2: gotta go alight. All right, We're back here at Pirates

760
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 2: cam in Brandon, Florida with Bubba Chandler Pirates Super Prospect.

761
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 2: I mean, we just had the oldest guy in the

762
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 2: world here, Andrew mccutchey. Now he got the youngest one

763
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 2: of the younger players here and we had a discussion.

764
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 2: He's from Athens, Georgia. Everyone out of there knows what

765
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 2: I feel about Athens and Georgia, so I'm sorry that

766
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 2: you know you're from there. It's cool town, but you know,

767
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 2: not my favorite place on earth Craft. But what's spring

768
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 2: been like for you? He just told what did you

769
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 2: just tell us? And you're like, wow, this is different.

770
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got any pitch every three days, which is yeah,

771
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,479
Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily used to, but not complaining about it.

772
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 2: So why would they have you pitching every three days?

773
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 6: I don't know, maybe trying to give me some looks.

774
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 2: I guess that is a good thing.

775
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, that is a good problem because maybe they think

776
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 5: you dominated in your short stint in trile A, and

777
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 5: they're like, we know what good pitching is.

778
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 2: Look at our starting rotation.

779
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 3: We see a spot for you.

780
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, you know, not trying to think anything

781
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 6: like that, but yeah we do. There's one thing that

782
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 6: we we have and that is freaking that's pitching.

783
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 3: Man.

784
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,239
Speaker 1: We we do it the right way over here. And uh,

785
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: you know, from the big leagues to lowest level of

786
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: the minor leagues. You know, we got guys every everywhere.

787
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: So it's really fun to watch.

788
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 2: It looks like Skins a little bit.

789
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie it, like maybe it's the poorly

790
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 4: defined mustache.

791
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 6: I mean I get that a lot.

792
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 2: But I mean you do have the hair. I mean

793
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 2: you do have I mean in the face.

794
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: It's been a couple of times traveling this offseason at

795
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: the airports, people were like, Paul Skins.

796
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 3: Like, no, no, I'm not.

797
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 2: You should just say wish I said it.

798
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 1: So we came, me and my girlfriend went to visit

799
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: Paul and live in Baton Rouge, and we were coming

800
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: back when we flew into Atlanta, had my glove with

801
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: me and some some people walked up to us didn't

802
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: ask anything like.

803
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:21,919
Speaker 6: Hey are you Paul?

804
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 3: Are you Livy?

805
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 6: They're like, oh my god, can we get a picture?

806
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 3: Please?

807
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 6: Please please?

808
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: And we're like yeah sure, and they're like people walking

809
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 1: away like no way, we just met in Paul and

810
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 1: Livy And I'm.

811
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 2: Like, ah, do you ever just disappointed?

812
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 6: No, but they would be disappointed.

813
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 2: But now do you think they went home and showed

814
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,280
Speaker 2: their friends and their friend was like that's.

815
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 6: Not no, no, that's not them.

816
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,240
Speaker 2: No way is bigger than you are.

817
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, well that's what I don't give.

818
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: It's like people always ask me like how is he

819
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 1: and I'm like, dude, a great guy, and they're like, hey,

820
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,280
Speaker 1: y'all are pretty similar. I'm like fifty pounds and three inches.

821
00:34:55,360 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: It's it's a big difference. But yeah, well that's okay. Yeah,

822
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: it's fine.

823
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 2: Maybe you'll still go you're only what twenty two?

824
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know he's twenty two as well, but maybe

825
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 6: he's still growing.

826
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 2: Grow.

827
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 5: Yeah he's done growing and you have him, you know,

828
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 5: the facial hero will fill in.

829
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, we're getting there, we're getting there. We're trying.

830
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 2: What does it feel like to be in camp knowing

831
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 2: you have a shot to make the team?

832
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:25,240
Speaker 5: Because Jones was sitting in this chair last year, didn't

833
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 5: know and you saw he made the team.

834
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,479
Speaker 1: Yeah again, like you know, try not to think about

835
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 1: this stuff, but it's always on your mind. Yeah, you know,

836
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,280
Speaker 1: it's a it's a blessing. You part's a great organization,

837
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: the team that drafted me. And you know, I would

838
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: love to get to the big leagues as quick as

839
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: I could. And yeah, you know, I'm excited for hopefully

840
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: when that time comes.

841
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 6: But yeah, you know I think about it, but I

842
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 6: try not to.

843
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 2: What if they said to you, do they say, like,

844
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 2: if you do make the two, let's there obviously is

845
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 2: everything goes right you make the team? Yeah, they want

846
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 2: you to be a starter because pitching every third day

847
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 2: it doesn't put you in line to pitch every fifth

848
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 2: day in the season. They want you to be a

849
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 2: bulk reliever. What what's their role that they haven't talked

850
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 2: to you about it.

851
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 3: I don't know.

852
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: They haven't really said much. It's more of, you know,

853
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: come out here and compete. And yeah, you know, if

854
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: I'm playing the rest of the campus to pitch on

855
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: three days rest, you know, I don't mind it at all. Like,

856
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: you know, arm feels great, you know, put on some

857
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: good weight of this offseason and don't really mind it.

858
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 6: So I love it.

859
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 4: By the way, producer Lady just sent a I don't

860
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 4: know if you can see this, yeah a picture.

861
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 2: I mean listen. I could see why somebody would come

862
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 2: up to.

863
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: Explain it happens next Halloween you dress up as boss Keys,

864
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:43,280
Speaker 1: where's Jersey walk.

865
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 2: Around the airport?

866
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 3: I will.

867
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, it would be funny.

868
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 3: Well, all right, so.

869
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 2: Brading Tin Bigley camp chance to make the team if

870
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 2: you do make it again, I love talking to him.

871
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 2: If you yeah, mom, dad, everyone be there. Who's the

872
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 2: first person if Derek Sheldon calls you in the office

873
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 2: is well, but you made the team. Who's the first

874
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 2: person you're calling.

875
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 3: From? My dad?

876
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 2: Call my dad and there be tears.

877
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 6: There would be a lot of tears, power from.

878
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: Him, probably more from me. Him would be like, damn,

879
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: finally you know it's been all this.

880
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 3: Long or a hard.

881
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 2: Rude twenty two made it finally?

882
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: No, just all from all the years of uh, you know,

883
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: travel ball and stuff like you know, finally paid off here.

884
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: I feel like you'd probably be a little relief for him, like,

885
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: you know, like I put a lot in and my

886
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: kid put a lot into it.

887
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 6: You know, he finally accomplished what he wanted to accomplish.

888
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'd probably call one of my buddies and

889
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: just be like, hey, I'm here, sorry about it, you know, yeah.

890
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 5: It take me so long dead Sorry, it didn't happen

891
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 5: when I was twenty yeah, yeah, now twenty two.

892
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 2: But the conversations like in the uphouse.

893
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:00,959
Speaker 6: Like.

894
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: You know, just a lot of there's a lot of

895
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: little things that you know, young guys like me and

896
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: you know, guys, this is my second big weak camp,

897
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: but you know, there's a lot of things that are

898
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: behind the scenes that you know, rookies need to know

899
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 1: and young guys need to know. And you know, guys

900
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: like Mitch even Paul, you know, do a really good

901
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,240
Speaker 1: job on the pitching side, you know, letting me Thomas

902
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: Harrington is throwing today, Anthony sold Medo, like just our

903
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 1: young pictures like hey, this is is how it's supposed

904
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 1: to go. This south's supposed to be ran and they

905
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: do a great job.

906
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 2: So you miss hitting.

907
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just had this conversation at lunch.

908
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of you know, every time I'm here

909
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:41,399
Speaker 1: brings back sweet memories of striking out a lot, but yeah,

910
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: my last at bat did land where our catcher or

911
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: a little in front of our catcher is though here

912
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 1: home run last about ever? And then they they said

913
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: you're done so but yeah, yeah this is this place

914
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: sucks on the hitting side for me.

915
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 2: But it made you a picture.

916
00:38:58,320 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 3: Yeah it really turned out.

917
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, interesting, you would have maybe made it twenty

918
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 4: three if you were still hitting.

919
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, no more punchouts and you don't have to deal

920
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 5: with the stupid hitting coaches.

921
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:10,439
Speaker 2: Have you and Paul?

922
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 5: Have you and Paul had like like, have you had

923
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 5: the humane Schiens have a like.

924
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 3: Home run nerby?

925
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 5: Would the team allow it? Because just saying he didn't

926
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 5: do it in professional baseball?

927
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 3: Yeah?

928
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: Shoot, I mean I always say that when anyone asks, like,

929
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 1: I mean, I do have like Jared's in this conversation too,

930
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: like he hit in high school but like.

931
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 6: High school high school exactly exactly.

932
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, I do have five homers and

933
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: inrofessional baseball, most of them in roockie ball one in

934
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: affiliate you know, not bad, but yeah, I I I

935
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: don't not want to be humble, but I'm a better

936
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: hitter than Paul.

937
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 3: Wow.

938
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 6: I wouldna say I've done it at a higher level.

939
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 4: So if you guys face, if you guys faced each other,

940
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 4: who has a better chance of getting hit off the other?

941
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 2: If you had to face I'd rake him. I'm just

942
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 2: saying I would know because I'm lefty in that splinker

943
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 2: with my bats feed of ninety six. But if you

944
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 2: had to face.

945
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 4: Him and he faced you say, you both get ten

946
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 4: of bats off each other.

947
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: So if he could eliminate one pitch, I think I

948
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: think I would hold my own anything going away from

949
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,720
Speaker 1: me if you eliminated the splinker, I can't hit anything

950
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: going away from me, nothing anything coming in.

951
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 6: I'm fine.

952
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: So if he eliminated that, I probably I probably had

953
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 1: a knock. I get myself one hit. It's not it's

954
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 1: not something piston. It's more of just like a choopy.

955
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,919
Speaker 1: You know those count two true him Gosh, I don't

956
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: know he's right handed, so I would just exploit him.

957
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 4: But oh yeah, I like that. But like eliminated, we

958
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 4: gotta stand up the anthem, We gotta go.

959
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 2: Oh we got the anthem? Fifty seven? Are you singing it?

960
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 2: I wish thank single, but you would sing the anthem?

961
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 6: I would say that you, and right, what's up you?

962
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 2: And Adam Wayne Right. You see Wayne Right saying the

963
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:05,879
Speaker 2: anthem a couple of years ago.