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He is from Xavier High School. 28 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: This is a few years back. He's the vice chairman 29 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: of the Bank of Cypress. Is that true? Wilbert Ross 30 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,919 Speaker 1: joins us right now, there's that any in former radio 31 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: DJ as well? What does the vice chairman of the 32 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: Bank of Cypress do? Well, it was like a lady 33 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: d in waiting for the chairman. Yeah, were the board meetings? 34 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: I mean we all have a stereo. Well, first of all, 35 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: I would suggest of Americans can't find Cypress on a map. 36 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: That's a different story. But after the crisis on a 37 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: Saturday morning X number of years ago, explained to us 38 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: how you go into Cyprus and what you do is 39 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: a vice chairman. Well, first we went into Cyprus because 40 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: we felt that the concern about the economy was being 41 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:36,959 Speaker 1: very much overdone. UH. Cypriot economy is based on tourism 42 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: and based on being a corporate headquarters for companies wanting 43 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 1: a low tax jurisdiction. We think those two have been 44 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: during characteristics to them. And our general theory is that 45 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,679 Speaker 1: if you own a big bank in a small country, 46 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: you really have bought a warrant on the affairs of 47 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: that country. So it starts with deciding do we believe 48 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 1: the Cypriot economy would recover, And indeed it has. It's 49 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: had positive GDP growth and I think as it exists, 50 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: the program that now will be after Ireland, the big 51 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: poster boy for the economic turnaround in Europe. Let me 52 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 1: um go to the intersection of politics and money here. 53 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: We were talking earlier about the exit polls UH in 54 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: Michigan and Mississippi showing enormous numbers of people who voted 55 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: in the Republican primary, suggesting they think the economy is 56 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: in terrible shape and they're very worried about it. From 57 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: where you sit, how is the economy? Well, I think 58 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: the people who were worried about it, have a right 59 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: to be worried because the economy has not been very 60 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: evenly distributed, and the people left behind have been really 61 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: more or less the middle class and or middle class people. 62 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: And if you look at the Trump phenomenon, and you 63 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: look at the Sanders phenomenon, that's a lot of where 64 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:12,119 Speaker 1: they're drawing their support from. That segment of the economy 65 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: really has not recovered, if anything, has lost some ground, 66 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: and they're angry about it, What about in the segment 67 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: of the economy you occupy And I don't just mean 68 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: you personally. Obviously your businesses do well, but the people 69 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: you talk to, the businesses you deal with, are they investing, 70 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: are they seeing profits? Are they optimistic about the future. Well, 71 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: I think everybody is concerned about geopolitics, not just in 72 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: the US. I can't remember a time where there's been 73 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:51,239 Speaker 1: more extremism, more polarization, and just about every big country around, 74 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: every big democratic society around the world. You look at Germany, 75 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: you look at Spain having trouble forming a government, you 76 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: look at it, the you look, you look, you look, 77 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: you look at the US. With these phenomena we have 78 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: in the primaries, it's a very strange time globally, How 79 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: does your Republican party establishment regroup and move forward? Is 80 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: this a one off or is this a new calculus 81 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: for Lincoln's party? Well? I think the establishment is a 82 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: self appointed designation and I don't know there's any officialdom 83 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 1: that says this is the establishment. This is not um. 84 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 1: And I do think, as I said earlier, that it 85 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: was very unfortunate that Mitt Romney went so far as 86 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: to say he would not vote for Trump if Trump 87 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: were the nominee. I think if you believe in the 88 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: two party system, as I do, the leadership of the 89 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: party who's elected the guy who gets to be the 90 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: nominee should expect that the party will coalesce around him, 91 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: and it shouldn't be well, well, only coalesce if it's 92 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: somebody we'd liked anyway, that's not a party that that's individuality. 93 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: But what was wrong with Romney's analysis of Trump? Was 94 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: there anything in there that was inaccurate? Oh, he's entitled 95 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: to his views, and I think for him to say 96 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: he would personally prefer another candidate, fine, everybody should be 97 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,679 Speaker 1: able to do that. I think where he went too 98 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: far was saying who would not vote for the party's nominee. 99 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 1: You don't see how you can be a party loyalist, 100 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: especially a party establishment figure, and say, but I will 101 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,239 Speaker 1: go against the will of the party. But you see 102 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: Donald Trump running a campaign based on racism, based on 103 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: appealing to the worst in society, with an economic plan 104 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: that no economist thinks makes any sense to the extent 105 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: he even has a plan, Uh, why would you vote 106 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 1: for him? Is there is there nothing that could be 107 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: beyond the pale in a Kennedy? No, it isn't. That 108 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: isn't the question beyond the pale. I think if you 109 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: wish to be the leader of a party, party loyalty 110 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: has to factor into it. Parties are not meant to 111 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: be a thing that comes and goes. I haven't liked 112 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: all of the nominees that the Republican Party has put 113 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: forward in in my senatorial races and congressional races, even 114 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: in presidential But I think either you believe in the 115 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: two party system or you don't. And if you believe 116 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: in If you don't believe in the two party system, 117 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: that's fine, then you ought to be for fragmentation, not 118 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: say I'm a leader of a party, but I'm only 119 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: going to be a leader. If everybody else agrees with me, 120 00:07:55,000 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: then the numbers I saw yesterday independent nationally listed as Republicans, 121 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: we've become independent America. How do the parties attract and 122 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: retain those voters? Well, I think it is fact that 123 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: most people who now call themselves independents used to call 124 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: themselves Republicans and got fed up with the goings on 125 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: in the party. So I think to some degree what's 126 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: happening now is some of those people are climbing back. 127 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: I think a lot of the Tea Party people came 128 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: out of the Republican Party mainstream. So I think you 129 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: have now the issue does the Republican Party need a redefinition? 130 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: And this is a critical distinction the Tea Party crew. 131 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: Maybe they are comfortable with Senator Cruz as a general statement, 132 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: can they maybe can they move over? And can those 133 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: conservatives be comfortable with Mr Trump, who's got some very 134 00:08:55,400 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: different policies. Well that's that's obviously a big, very big question, um, 135 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: and it'll be answered pretty soon. UM. I think it 136 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: was very interesting to see the variety of jurisdictions in 137 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:17,359 Speaker 1: which Trump has won. Uh, the evangelicals in South Carolina 138 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: going all the way to auto workers in Michigan. That 139 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: covers a pretty wide range of American population other than 140 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: the fact that he says he's a Republican. Now, why 141 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: would you vote for Donald Trump? What is it that 142 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: he could do for America? Well, I think he is 143 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: a leader, um and I think he's had very good 144 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: people hired in the past. People forget that when his 145 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: casinos went through the bankruptcies. Who was his chief financial officer, 146 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: Steve Bollenbach. What did Steve go on to do become 147 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: CEO of Hilton Hotels, did a very good job with 148 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: that and sold it for a great, huge fortune. So 149 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: he's had a history of having good people, and to me, 150 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: any kind of leadership is a function of having good 151 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: people in support of the number one person. But my 152 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: point is not so much to endorse Trump as to say, 153 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: either you have party that are coherent and stay together. 154 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: If the mass of the party nominates the candidates, they 155 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: should stick with it. Will Ross, Thank you so much, 156 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: w Ross and company with the comments on his Republican Party. 157 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: Mr Ross significant supporter of Governor Romney last time around. 158 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 1: Futures up ten, DALBT Futures up eighty two, Bright Fruit 159 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: forty dollars forty cents of barrel up sixty three cents. 160 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: Time now to check in with Michael R and get 161 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: the latest world end news national headlines like Mike Tom, 162 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: thank you very much. Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump says 163 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: there is a need for the party to unite around him. 164 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: Trump maintains though it would be premature to start toning 165 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: down to his aggressive campaign style, especially in the face 166 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: of what he calls vicious attacks from his rivals. Trump 167 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: won contests in Michigan, Mississippi, and Hawaii. Ted Cruz won 168 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: Idaho's primary yesterday. Bertie Sanders secured a narrow upset in 169 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: Michigan's primary. However, Hillary Clinton took Mississippi and now has 170 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: more than half of the delegates needed to secure the 171 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: Democratic presidential nomination. 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