WEBVTT - Dj Hed on Kendrick, Drake & More

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<v Speaker 1>We like to welcome you to another episode the Gainst

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<v Speaker 1>the Chronicles podcast where gangst the Rap Lives and it's

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<v Speaker 1>your boy Big Steal along with my guy. Yeah, let

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<v Speaker 1>me cut my fucking phone off too. You gotta make

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<v Speaker 1>sure mans motherfuckers be calling for real and shit man.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's funny is my wife had text me every

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<v Speaker 1>show and say, what are you busy now? And I

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<v Speaker 1>say no, I'm just in the middle of recording.

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<v Speaker 2>We had. Yeah, yeah, you know we.

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<v Speaker 1>Got a special guest now. I don't even like seeing

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<v Speaker 1>a special guest man because he my homeboy. He no

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<v Speaker 1>longer an' been knowing.

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<v Speaker 2>You now though too long. I need new friends. New friends?

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<v Speaker 1>Is the ones you got definitely getting old? They pieces

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<v Speaker 1>of shit too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't even know, to be honest, we got

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<v Speaker 2>to be a decade at least.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah for real man. You know what's funny You was

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<v Speaker 1>in podcasting so early? When was g o for in

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<v Speaker 1>Signal Hill? When we got the studio Signal Hill? How

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<v Speaker 1>long ago was that? That was two eleven? We was

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<v Speaker 1>doing Homegrown before that? Yeah, for real and Chuck's Apartment, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Homegrown radio, college radio. Yeah, I don't seen you go

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<v Speaker 1>through all your progressions and this ship and you the

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<v Speaker 1>motherfucker man. I see you on it early arguing with

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<v Speaker 1>Elliott Wilson them.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't necessarily think it's arguing. I would

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<v Speaker 2>say more like organized discourse. Here.

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<v Speaker 1>You gonna come start, man. You know this this, this

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<v Speaker 1>is the cheap rent section.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't come over here arguing it is. It is debate, conversation,

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<v Speaker 2>aggressively conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you this, man, Some of them dudes,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is no disrespect to Elliott or any of them.

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<v Speaker 2>That's whenever whenever a niggas say no disrespect, the disrespect

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<v Speaker 2>for to come in no.

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<v Speaker 3>Because your opinion for to be different than what a

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<v Speaker 3>motherfucker talking about. No disrespect. But it's always a butt.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably what's the butt?

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<v Speaker 1>Don't it seem like it's a lot of corn balls

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<v Speaker 1>that's commentating and speaking on hip hop nowadays?

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<v Speaker 2>Haven't it always been? No?

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<v Speaker 1>Not really, man, because I think about the catt that

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<v Speaker 1>I thought were corn balls. Actually, you know, looking back,

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<v Speaker 1>they really wasn't corn balls. They was great compared to

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<v Speaker 1>this crop of motherfuckers we got today.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean who compared to who? Though?

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<v Speaker 3>Like, what do you mean as far as who like,

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<v Speaker 3>what's what's the comparisons?

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<v Speaker 4>What would you say, like a person that you felt was.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, a.

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<v Speaker 3>Great uh commentator on hip hop opposed to somebody who

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<v Speaker 3>was corny as I think, you know what.

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<v Speaker 1>Man doctor Dre and they a lover your MTV reps.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they was cool. Okay, I think they was cool,

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<v Speaker 1>big Tigger. Back then, we really didn't have nobody that

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<v Speaker 1>was corny. We had you know what we had, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>No I said, no ticket was tight, big ticket was

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<v Speaker 1>So who was corny? You know what? Back then, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought the dude Joe Claire, they hosted Rap City.

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<v Speaker 2>For Nigga, said Joe Claire.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Joe Claire for a minute, but then compared

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<v Speaker 1>to the people that compared to the people that we

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<v Speaker 1>got today, bro, that motherfucker was amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>But what what what constitutes somebody is being corny?

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<v Speaker 1>Just somebody that's not really from the culture. So they

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<v Speaker 1>have this really skewed opinion on how stuff should be.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I hear people saying like just just off the

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<v Speaker 1>wall ship Like, well I heard that, you know, Kendrick

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<v Speaker 1>just drug up a bunch of shit, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. It's like, oh, I don't think he did this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, motherfucker, what record you've been listening to? You

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<v Speaker 1>saying you feel what I'm saying?

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<v Speaker 2>What record? Just well? I think that people people always

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<v Speaker 2>convolute their opinion for facts. They always say they always

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<v Speaker 2>like they have an opinion about something, and in the

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<v Speaker 2>opinion they pass off as a fact instead of it

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<v Speaker 2>being an opinion. It's all artists all up to your

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<v Speaker 2>it's your opinion. Eight got an opinion, you got an opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>I have an opinion. So it's like, I think what

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<v Speaker 2>happens is you just disagree with their opinion. But then

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<v Speaker 2>it'd be a lot of people who I think what

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<v Speaker 2>you would say come off as corner. They try to

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<v Speaker 2>pass their opinion off like it's law exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, the days of your opinion to a motherfucker

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<v Speaker 3>self is is their fact?

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<v Speaker 4>You get me. You try to tell.

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<v Speaker 3>Motherfuckers today that you know, nigga, that's really your opinion.

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<v Speaker 3>But a motherfucker are you to death if they feel

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<v Speaker 3>like bullshit? Nigga, I heard and then so and so said,

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<v Speaker 3>and like I told the motherfucker the other day, there

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<v Speaker 3>is no fact. It's just nigga. I want to get

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<v Speaker 3>the story out or whatever it is. First, there is

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<v Speaker 3>no facts to this shit. So, motherfucker, if you could

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<v Speaker 3>tell the motherfucking nigga really what you're saying. It's your

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<v Speaker 3>person and there's nothing wrong with that. But people feel

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<v Speaker 3>like their personal opinions are their true fact.

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<v Speaker 4>Nigga.

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<v Speaker 3>That's whatever, nigga, You get me. So that's what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Right there.

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<v Speaker 1>You see all are arguing, right, and people really be

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<v Speaker 1>invested in this stuff like it's like like it's a

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<v Speaker 1>matter of life and death. And I told somebody the

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<v Speaker 1>other day, I said, bro, there's nothing because he said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>he wanted to get the last word, Drake Won, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>if you feel that in your heart, my god, that's

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<v Speaker 1>cool because this stuff is subjective. It is there's no

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<v Speaker 1>truth right or wrong. It's just who wins the who

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<v Speaker 1>wins the public opinion, belly, you feel what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>If more people in public opinion seem like they're saying

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<v Speaker 1>you won, that's the winner.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's all it's all the court of public opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's kind of crazy to say, Drake one. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, But but here's the thing, like everybody, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this is how I look at opinions, right, opinion. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>they'd be like, oh, it's like assholes. I think an

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<v Speaker 2>opinion is like an independent record label. Everybody got one

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<v Speaker 2>these days, right, So so when you look at it like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you have an opinion, I have an opinion, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>what he said, when you pass your opinion off, like

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<v Speaker 2>that's it. That's where people got it sucked up. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's where they go wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>They get it really misconstrued. And then you have all

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<v Speaker 1>and then forget the dudes that's getting paid to commentate. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about the fans for a minute. You would

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<v Speaker 1>see some of these fans, man, they would like they

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<v Speaker 1>were about to cry.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, I did see a fan cry, Actually you did, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I did see the I saw these academics get emotional

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<v Speaker 2>on his stream. I don't know if he cried because

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<v Speaker 2>crime has a definition, but it was as close to

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<v Speaker 2>it as possible. Yeah, it's like, it's not this series,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a rep.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a bat.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh, man, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, shit is just weird man. Just niggas is just

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<v Speaker 3>weird man today, Man, just take me back to the ages, man,

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<v Speaker 3>fuck man, these niggas is weird.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, Like.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, I came from hip hop and beefing and whatever

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<v Speaker 3>and opinions in fact, whatever, man, but it's fucking music

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<v Speaker 3>shit or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, like you're getting emotional because like Nigga was, it

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<v Speaker 3>makes me think, like what you got something invested in

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<v Speaker 3>the ship.

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<v Speaker 1>Like exactly. And you know what I told somebody the

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<v Speaker 1>other day, I said, man, save that type of energy

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<v Speaker 1>for your family, for your friends, for stuff that really

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<v Speaker 1>matters in life. You sitting up, you're worried about two dudes,

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<v Speaker 1>two people that got way more money than you.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, but a lot of this shit is for

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<v Speaker 3>show man, if you want to ask me. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>niggas get on and be streaming live and then like

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<v Speaker 3>just a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Of this shit is for show man.

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<v Speaker 3>It gotta be like, come on, this shit gotta be

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<v Speaker 3>for show because grown ass me and acting like like man,

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<v Speaker 3>this shit is crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, Like to your point, though, I think

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<v Speaker 2>that they do have stuff invested. You got you got

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<v Speaker 2>to But but I don't think it's money or nothing

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<v Speaker 2>or like it ain't like the person's signed to their

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<v Speaker 2>label or a nothing like that. I think they invest

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<v Speaker 2>it because it's a distraction from like life like, for instance,

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<v Speaker 2>if you you know how like some people go get high,

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<v Speaker 2>some people go get drunk, some people have their advices.

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<v Speaker 2>Other people just dive into other people's lives, like when

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<v Speaker 2>you watch reality TV. I don't personally watch reality TV

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<v Speaker 2>because I got enough drama in my own life to

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<v Speaker 2>where exactly real. So I think when you when you're

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<v Speaker 2>going through real shit, I don't think you can really

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<v Speaker 2>invest that much into other people's shit like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, still you sit up and be emotional or

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<v Speaker 3>if your favorite artist got this, sitting at home crying

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<v Speaker 3>and shit, motherfucking bro, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't lose a bit of sleep. And I'm gonna tell

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<v Speaker 1>you this too. Everybody up here really no K do right,

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<v Speaker 1>and they ain't there one of us got emotionally, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I was telling somebody, I said, if I

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<v Speaker 1>would have thought K got lost, I would have said

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<v Speaker 1>it too. And it don't mean that I still love

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<v Speaker 1>him to death. It don't mean you have nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>do with that. But he just lost a rap battle, y'all. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>Drake got him. Because I'm not gonna lie when if

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<v Speaker 1>one record came out, the drop and give him fifty records.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that ship, I said, man, this shit is hot,

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<v Speaker 1>this shit is hard, Kate, Like we had the rap.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I knew it would be interesting because he

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<v Speaker 1>came with such a strong first record. Then when Doc

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<v Speaker 1>came back, you know, he countered back, I said, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we got a fight now. Yeah, it wasn't no clear

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<v Speaker 1>winner yet, but I said, Doc got action.

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<v Speaker 2>You feel what I mean? Well, I think. I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing is I didn't even intentionally get involved. They

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<v Speaker 2>dragged me into that shit, like I didn't have nothing

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<v Speaker 2>to do with it. But when when he dropped the

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<v Speaker 2>Push Ups record, I expressed a sentiment that everybody shares,

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<v Speaker 2>like why is academics the only person on earth with

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<v Speaker 2>the record? Like if you if it's your record, on

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<v Speaker 2>to claim the record? Like where we from? You can't

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<v Speaker 2>false flag, you can't. You can't even get away with that,

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<v Speaker 2>right because they either either they gonna deal with you

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<v Speaker 2>or they gonna deal with you. Somebody gonna deal with you. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>So if that's your record, claim your record, that's your

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<v Speaker 2>that's your song. Right. Why that's like me putting the

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<v Speaker 2>record out and you're the only one in the world

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<v Speaker 2>with it. Why it is not out? Why is not

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<v Speaker 2>on my YouTube? Why is not on my SoundCloud. That

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<v Speaker 2>was the only thing that I brought up. So once

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<v Speaker 2>he claimed the record and it became real, I had

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<v Speaker 2>no doubt that the hommy was gonna mop him up

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<v Speaker 2>like it was. It's not to be honest, you know

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<v Speaker 2>how like when people say, oh, h that's not a

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<v Speaker 2>fair fight, right, if you watch boxing or whatever. Like

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<v Speaker 2>if me and me and you go outside right now

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<v Speaker 2>and you're like, man, let's fight, people gonna look at

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<v Speaker 2>me and be like, well, at least head went out

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<v Speaker 2>there and took the fade. Only time you say that

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<v Speaker 2>is when you have doubt that the person gonna win. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you be like, oh, at least at least he went

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<v Speaker 2>and fought. Though, whenever you say at least he went

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<v Speaker 2>and fought, that means you already know like he had

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<v Speaker 2>a disadvantage. He could get it in his ass. That's

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<v Speaker 2>all I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gonna get in his ass. You know what I think, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Drake is a top tier artist.

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<v Speaker 2>Me too.

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<v Speaker 4>One.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's the reason why he's selling all these

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<v Speaker 1>records right probably the most successful hip hop artists in

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<v Speaker 1>the game right now. I would say, as of a

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<v Speaker 1>few weeks ago, you know, Doc might have took that

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<v Speaker 1>spot from him.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, but this is a decade long yeah you know, so, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's fair to say he's had a ring, man, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's not trash.

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<v Speaker 1>I told somebody, I said, man, you can't even have

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<v Speaker 1>an opinion without somebody. This girl told me you just

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<v Speaker 1>don't like him. I said, I don't have nothing in best.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have nothing personal against this man. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know him. There's nothing personal. I just feel like

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<v Speaker 1>base from the music i've heard. This is a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit strong gro over here. I didn't even say his

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<v Speaker 1>stuff was whack. I said a little bit stronger. She

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<v Speaker 1>got mad and told me I was an old ass hater.

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<v Speaker 1>She told me, yeah, I know, older motherfucker already. But

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<v Speaker 1>it was just like, you can't even have an opinion.

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<v Speaker 3>Still you up in here clean tonight, man, I'm noticing

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<v Speaker 3>you clean?

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<v Speaker 2>Hum up?

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<v Speaker 1>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>I got a jacket on, man, I got the beard clean,

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<v Speaker 2>took the.

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<v Speaker 1>Beard off dog. You know what it was, man, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what it was. When I went to see my mama,

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<v Speaker 1>she said, is you a Muslim now?

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<v Speaker 3>And I said, you walking around? Yeah, you had the

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<v Speaker 3>O G Muslim and ship.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I said, man, I don't have I said, mama, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a Muslim now yeah, and then she said,

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<v Speaker 1>well why do you have that? They just seemed like

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<v Speaker 1>a bit much. Can you run a cam across it?

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<v Speaker 1>I said, mam, I just got off the plane right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that scruffy look. Man, you're looking clean in this month.

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<v Speaker 1>My mother in law was telling me I was looking

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<v Speaker 1>like for deal Castro. They had all kinds of jokes man.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's good. I bet your wife liked

0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:16.559
<v Speaker 3>that type of ship. Nice and clean, shaven, now looking decent,

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<v Speaker 3>looking at looking looking acceptable.

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<v Speaker 2>You would just be the one to call it.

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<v Speaker 3>I had to call it because I'm getting that. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>about tired of the Drake and Kendrick stuff. That's why

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<v Speaker 3>we talked about this ship for two weeks. Now it's

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<v Speaker 3>time to move on. It's time to move on from

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<v Speaker 3>Drake and Kendrick because it's over with. It's just it's done.

0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:42.520
<v Speaker 3>We we keep we keep putting fire on motherfucking burning ashes.

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<v Speaker 3>You get me, We keep trying the ashes is you know,

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<v Speaker 3>when you get through barbecuing and they tell you to

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<v Speaker 3>pour the water on the ship and the water is dead.

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<v Speaker 3>That's where this ship is at right now.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me ask you this. Yeah, if Drake dropped

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<v Speaker 1>another record righting down, what it even.

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<v Speaker 3>Matter it's done with because it's done got upstairs, and

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<v Speaker 3>we done talked about that.

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<v Speaker 4>It's then went.

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<v Speaker 3>Upstairs because like you said, they done told people you

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<v Speaker 3>gotta cut this shit out. You're talking pedophiles and child

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<v Speaker 3>molestations and all of that, and regardless, at the end

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<v Speaker 3>of the day, that don't sit well with the nigga

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<v Speaker 3>sitting upstairs. You get me, the nigga who's sitting upstairs

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<v Speaker 3>with the three P suit on and eighty years old

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<v Speaker 3>and can barely walk and signing everybody checks. He like,

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<v Speaker 3>nigga's bigger than that shit. We got big ass billion

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<v Speaker 3>dollar companies ready to pull out because you niggas is

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<v Speaker 3>calling each other names and all kind of crazy shit.

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<v Speaker 3>Y'all fucking with the money, give me fuck the little

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<v Speaker 3>rap money. Y'all collect the nigga you fucking with, You

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<v Speaker 3>fucking with motherfucking president, your motherfucking persuades it, money and ship.

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<v Speaker 3>You get me, So it's time to cut this ship

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<v Speaker 3>out because you got big motherfuckers want to pull out

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<v Speaker 3>a ship because first of all, we can't be dealing

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<v Speaker 3>with motherfuckers who just just the just the just the

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<v Speaker 3>whisper of that type of ship. What pedophile, what kids

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<v Speaker 3>and child? Whoa you know that because that spook a

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<v Speaker 3>motherfuck in a minute, spook a Nike a motherfucking you

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<v Speaker 3>get me a nigger and big book, then please, nigga,

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<v Speaker 3>we can't have no no kind of no kind of

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<v Speaker 3>touching on that ship.

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<v Speaker 2>Was that Was that like an issue like your when

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<v Speaker 2>you was doing your thing? Like was that was that

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<v Speaker 2>ever a worry about like endorsement deals?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, because we were still at the we were

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<v Speaker 3>still at the point of where we were an afterthought

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<v Speaker 3>to companies. You get me, I come from the era

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<v Speaker 3>of before the aster PE's and cash moneys and quality

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<v Speaker 3>controls and you know, like you said, everybody who got

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<v Speaker 3>their own independent label.

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<v Speaker 4>Now I come before that.

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<v Speaker 2>I come.

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<v Speaker 4>I come from the era of.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, corporate ass motherfucking white men who was running labels,

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<v Speaker 3>and we just happened to be a motherfucking staple on

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<v Speaker 3>the back of the bigger picture. So it was we

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<v Speaker 3>didn't have fucking investors and corporate sponsorships for motherfucker. That

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<v Speaker 3>was that was niggas like Hammer and shit. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>you had to be that big.

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<v Speaker 2>I never even reached down to where y'all was at.

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<v Speaker 3>For motherfucking you see how my nigga dre and them

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<v Speaker 3>at the super Bowl with low riders and crip walking

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<v Speaker 3>man pepsi coat and then please give them some money

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<v Speaker 3>to these niggas, these niggas talking about shooting niggas and

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<v Speaker 3>riding and riders and that bumpty bumpty bu hey. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>so we didn't we didn't deal with that. You have

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<v Speaker 3>to be on a different pa. You had to be

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<v Speaker 3>a Vanilla Ice or mc hammer to get corporate sponsorship,

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<v Speaker 3>Hammer had Taco bell Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, you know, I want to ask I got

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<v Speaker 2>two questions I wanted to ask you personally. But the

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<v Speaker 2>first one is about like the content and the music,

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<v Speaker 2>like you're saying, they saying, they making all these accusations

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that. But then also when you look

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<v Speaker 2>at you know, how like people be like, oh they

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<v Speaker 2>they telling them themselves and the records. Now the kids,

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<v Speaker 2>the kids, the young dudes is out here saying that

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<v Speaker 2>they shot Johnny and they really didn't shoot Johnny definitely,

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<v Speaker 2>but that was that was also kind of a thing

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<v Speaker 2>like back in the day too, where our company what

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<v Speaker 2>y'all was saying on the on the records.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean because we were giving you well, you know

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<v Speaker 3>you shot Johnny and really I'm basically telling you a

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<v Speaker 3>story of tales from the hood.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, it's still, but it's based on a true story.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, okay, because I'm not dumb.

0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:10.199
<v Speaker 3>I'm not that dumb where I'm gonna be like me

0:18:10.280 --> 0:18:14.240
<v Speaker 3>and motherfucking Chill went through so and so and the

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<v Speaker 3>niggas was standing at Eddie's liquor store and Chill jumped

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<v Speaker 3>out with the deuce. Dudes popped the nigga knowing, damn well,

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<v Speaker 3>a week ago we pulled up at Eddie's Liquor and

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<v Speaker 3>popped two niggas. I'm not gonna do that. What I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna do is, I'm gonna tell you and everybody's hood,

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<v Speaker 3>somebody finna get popped. I'm telling you, if you slang dope,

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<v Speaker 3>you gonna probably go to jail. I'm telling you, niggas

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<v Speaker 3>who gang bang did drive bys?

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<v Speaker 2>You get me.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying little Tooty from my block nigga last

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<v Speaker 3>week jumped out on the nigga at the Burger stand

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<v Speaker 3>shot him with the thirty eight nigga blew his head off.

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<v Speaker 2>Into his mama house on Carling.

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<v Speaker 3>And Nigga, it's it's and the and I and I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like the way that hip hop is, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>As far as how that path is going.

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<v Speaker 3>It's because, like you said, rap has turned into the

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<v Speaker 3>whatever you want to call it, man, the new dope

0:19:25.720 --> 0:19:28.760
<v Speaker 3>game to hustle whatever whatever you want to say it is.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's a way for these the young homies now

0:19:33.280 --> 0:19:37.760
<v Speaker 3>to glorify the aspect of their identity where they're from.

0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:40.920
<v Speaker 3>You get me. We couldn't do that back then.

0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:43.200
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't get on the record and say try New

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<v Speaker 3>Park so and so and so and so because the

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<v Speaker 3>label would go, know, they knew the problems of that ship.

0:19:55.440 --> 0:19:58.840
<v Speaker 3>Doing that wasn't making them money back then. It's making

0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:01.720
<v Speaker 3>money now because niggas then depended with it, and then

0:20:01.720 --> 0:20:06.920
<v Speaker 3>the niggas who get on it's like perfect. Look at him,

0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:09.159
<v Speaker 3>be a young boy, nigga. I'm gonna talk nigga.

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<v Speaker 4>Fuck you.

0:20:09.680 --> 0:20:12.320
<v Speaker 3>We came through Woompy wom Look at the niggas in

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<v Speaker 3>Shy Town and any little hard hood nigga from from

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<v Speaker 3>Compton to motherfucking Georgia. You get me, nigga, I'm gonna

0:20:21.400 --> 0:20:23.240
<v Speaker 3>go in my kitchen and I'm gonna tell a nigga

0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:25.159
<v Speaker 3>I'm from so and so on, I'm from this and that.

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<v Speaker 3>We got to tou tou and womped because it's the

0:20:28.080 --> 0:20:32.480
<v Speaker 3>it's to solidify their identity. Now, you get me back,

0:20:32.520 --> 0:20:36.000
<v Speaker 3>then you had to rap. We had to rap to

0:20:36.040 --> 0:20:39.040
<v Speaker 3>prove your identity. Now all you gotta do is say

0:20:39.080 --> 0:20:42.000
<v Speaker 3>what nigga hit you bust? Or what nigga hit you

0:20:42.119 --> 0:20:44.960
<v Speaker 3>beefing with? Or what nigga we shot a nigga and

0:20:44.960 --> 0:20:48.160
<v Speaker 3>wompty wom that's the hip hop for that type of shit.

0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:52.800
<v Speaker 3>We tried to be you know, we tried to explain

0:20:52.920 --> 0:20:58.439
<v Speaker 3>the pitfalls of of gang life because the aspect was

0:20:58.560 --> 0:21:04.720
<v Speaker 3>nobody understood what was going on. Dumb motherfuckers thought we

0:21:04.960 --> 0:21:08.000
<v Speaker 3>banging just to wear red and blue bandanas.

0:21:08.400 --> 0:21:10.840
<v Speaker 4>You get me, that's what we have.

0:21:11.119 --> 0:21:15.600
<v Speaker 3>So it was more of us explaining what was going on.

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<v Speaker 2>You get me.

0:21:17.080 --> 0:21:19.240
<v Speaker 3>They know what the fuck is going on now they've

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<v Speaker 3>been seeing it for thirty years now.

0:21:21.640 --> 0:21:26.640
<v Speaker 1>It's profitable, Yeah, especially considering the fact like the King

0:21:26.760 --> 0:21:30.680
<v Speaker 1>von Kid, right, I believe he sold more records after

0:21:30.720 --> 0:21:32.479
<v Speaker 1>he died than when he was alive.

0:21:32.720 --> 0:21:35.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean that's usually how it goes.

0:21:36.040 --> 0:21:40.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Tupaca, Yeah, you know the gang problem. I mean

0:21:40.680 --> 0:21:47.359
<v Speaker 3>it's been around since the beginning, but it's so fascinating

0:21:47.400 --> 0:21:49.959
<v Speaker 3>when I look up right now because I said niggas

0:21:49.960 --> 0:21:52.919
<v Speaker 3>was hood niggas back then and whatever, but.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a gang if you look.

0:21:57.160 --> 0:22:00.600
<v Speaker 3>At the last five years, it's a a of these

0:22:00.640 --> 0:22:04.840
<v Speaker 3>little niggas who just this week, this nigga got killed,

0:22:04.840 --> 0:22:07.880
<v Speaker 3>this week, this nigga got and and it's fucked up

0:22:07.960 --> 0:22:14.359
<v Speaker 3>because it's associated hip or hip hop. Man, you get me.

0:22:16.000 --> 0:22:19.520
<v Speaker 3>Back then, that just would have been some gang killings

0:22:19.520 --> 0:22:19.880
<v Speaker 3>and ship.

0:22:20.080 --> 0:22:22.800
<v Speaker 2>Why you think that hip hop is so it's it's

0:22:22.840 --> 0:22:26.560
<v Speaker 2>synonymous with violence that way, because I don't, because don't.

0:22:26.600 --> 0:22:29.199
<v Speaker 2>I was just having this conversation on last week when

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<v Speaker 2>everything was going on my on my on my thread,

0:22:31.320 --> 0:22:33.760
<v Speaker 2>on my timeline. I was like, bro, people think hip

0:22:33.760 --> 0:22:36.160
<v Speaker 2>hop is violent? Have you ever listened to Corrido's music

0:22:36.480 --> 0:22:38.040
<v Speaker 2>like that met Domesican music?

0:22:38.280 --> 0:22:41.640
<v Speaker 3>Oh no, man, please, They saying, wow, nigga, they talk

0:22:41.720 --> 0:22:44.359
<v Speaker 3>about that Donk Diller and who run the town and

0:22:44.359 --> 0:22:48.679
<v Speaker 3>the big narcos and man, please, why bang that ship?

0:22:48.800 --> 0:22:51.120
<v Speaker 2>Why is hip hop the only way that it's looked

0:22:51.160 --> 0:22:53.840
<v Speaker 2>at like that? Like because as opposed to like country,

0:22:53.920 --> 0:22:56.760
<v Speaker 2>even some country songs and country songs. I heard a

0:22:56.760 --> 0:22:59.840
<v Speaker 2>couple of country music records on.

0:23:00.080 --> 0:23:04.080
<v Speaker 3>Music is Man. The Narco music is on point. But

0:23:04.280 --> 0:23:08.960
<v Speaker 3>I think it's because and we've always got the negative

0:23:09.040 --> 0:23:13.640
<v Speaker 3>spin the black man and that's man. Come on, man,

0:23:13.800 --> 0:23:16.280
<v Speaker 3>we've always got the negatives. Just listen to what you

0:23:16.440 --> 0:23:20.080
<v Speaker 3>just said. I mean, they got mother for the essays nigga,

0:23:20.160 --> 0:23:24.400
<v Speaker 3>they got bands, nigga, so and so they.

0:23:24.240 --> 0:23:26.680
<v Speaker 2>Came through it. Man.

0:23:27.359 --> 0:23:29.800
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if that makes a difference, because nigga

0:23:29.840 --> 0:23:33.920
<v Speaker 3>they treacherous. We talk about our gang life and ship.

0:23:34.400 --> 0:23:36.199
<v Speaker 3>Narco's been treacherous.

0:23:36.240 --> 0:23:39.159
<v Speaker 2>So maybe you could say it if it's in melody.

0:23:40.440 --> 0:23:43.359
<v Speaker 3>I think just I think because it's the nature of

0:23:43.400 --> 0:23:45.600
<v Speaker 3>the beasts. As far as the black man is concerned,

0:23:45.640 --> 0:23:48.440
<v Speaker 3>we've always been looked at negatively when it comes to

0:23:48.480 --> 0:23:52.879
<v Speaker 3>the situations like that, and people aren't reminded enough that,

0:23:53.640 --> 0:23:57.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, gang culture.

0:23:57.040 --> 0:23:58.119
<v Speaker 2>And all that shit. Nigga.

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<v Speaker 3>I watched the mob been al Capone and fucking Lefty

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<v Speaker 3>Luciano and all their motherfuckers.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what was game.

0:24:07.600 --> 0:24:10.280
<v Speaker 3>Even though they was calling themselves the mob, that was

0:24:10.359 --> 0:24:10.920
<v Speaker 3>gang shit.

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<v Speaker 2>To me.

0:24:11.480 --> 0:24:15.560
<v Speaker 3>It was money, it was drugs, protocol. It was niggas

0:24:15.600 --> 0:24:20.000
<v Speaker 3>getting politics. You get me, just like a street gang today,

0:24:20.160 --> 0:24:22.160
<v Speaker 3>you get me. We don't have a you know, some

0:24:22.240 --> 0:24:25.399
<v Speaker 3>niggas some do some gangs out of tears of the

0:24:25.480 --> 0:24:28.560
<v Speaker 3>leaders and the followers and the soldiers and all that.

0:24:28.640 --> 0:24:31.840
<v Speaker 3>But it's still I just think because it was Black

0:24:31.920 --> 0:24:35.399
<v Speaker 3>culture and we've always been looked at negatively when it

0:24:35.520 --> 0:24:37.760
<v Speaker 3>came to the streets.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly was it like that? Though? Like was it like

0:24:41.359 --> 0:24:45.359
<v Speaker 2>that when when hip hop first came from New York? Like?

0:24:45.680 --> 0:24:48.080
<v Speaker 2>Cause I think the problem with that is we was

0:24:48.160 --> 0:24:50.720
<v Speaker 2>already hood niggas, so the music just came later.

0:24:50.760 --> 0:24:54.200
<v Speaker 3>It just came later, and then we still had niggas.

0:24:54.240 --> 0:24:59.000
<v Speaker 3>Like That's why I say West Coast music was different.

0:24:59.480 --> 0:25:02.159
<v Speaker 3>I mean, like I said, we had niggas like the

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<v Speaker 3>Wrecking Crew, and we had Bobby Jimmy and the Critters

0:25:06.359 --> 0:25:10.840
<v Speaker 3>and shit with you know, songs like that when but

0:25:11.240 --> 0:25:14.160
<v Speaker 3>the gang problems were still there. Before I heard my rap,

0:25:14.240 --> 0:25:18.040
<v Speaker 3>first rap record, it was niggas on the block, gang banging.

0:25:18.680 --> 0:25:22.600
<v Speaker 3>I still got five years old, niggas was drive by shooting,

0:25:22.960 --> 0:25:23.520
<v Speaker 3>you get me.

0:25:24.520 --> 0:25:26.320
<v Speaker 4>So before I even picked up a.

0:25:26.280 --> 0:25:31.800
<v Speaker 3>Microphone, I was gang banging. It was already in its existence.

0:25:33.119 --> 0:25:36.120
<v Speaker 3>Hey had. And not to cut you off, I'm gonna

0:25:36.119 --> 0:25:42.360
<v Speaker 3>say this. We had niggas like Mixed, Master Spade and

0:25:42.400 --> 0:25:45.959
<v Speaker 3>Toddy T who gave us that type of music of

0:25:46.000 --> 0:25:50.399
<v Speaker 3>what was going on in the neighborhood. But I think

0:25:50.480 --> 0:25:55.320
<v Speaker 3>because of the gang culture that we had already established

0:25:55.400 --> 0:25:58.960
<v Speaker 3>on the West Coast is when when hip hop fell

0:25:59.000 --> 0:26:02.160
<v Speaker 3>into it. Just you know what I'm saying, when they

0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:05.639
<v Speaker 3>tell you to go from simmer to a boil, and

0:26:05.640 --> 0:26:09.159
<v Speaker 3>that's just what That's just what the fuck happened, You

0:26:09.240 --> 0:26:11.440
<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying. We went from a light simmer

0:26:12.040 --> 0:26:15.760
<v Speaker 3>and to once once motherfucking crack came in and then

0:26:16.400 --> 0:26:18.520
<v Speaker 3>easy in them got to tell the niggas they were

0:26:18.520 --> 0:26:21.960
<v Speaker 3>straight out of Compton and and and the whole image

0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:28.240
<v Speaker 3>was getting broadcasted across the motherfucking world. Shit just got

0:26:28.240 --> 0:26:30.360
<v Speaker 3>turned up, man, And it was just a different time.

0:26:30.400 --> 0:26:33.120
<v Speaker 3>Can you imagine we didn't even have the internet back then.

0:26:34.040 --> 0:26:37.600
<v Speaker 3>Oh that just came from kt AM radio station. Well

0:26:37.600 --> 0:26:40.240
<v Speaker 3>it's the only station that played I remember we would

0:26:40.240 --> 0:26:42.600
<v Speaker 3>play that station man from early in the morning to night.

0:26:43.080 --> 0:26:45.200
<v Speaker 1>You would hear easy E, you would hear king t,

0:26:45.440 --> 0:26:47.880
<v Speaker 1>you hear miss mess Fade all day.

0:26:48.119 --> 0:26:50.880
<v Speaker 2>It was popping. Yeah, I couldn't imagine then.

0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:54.320
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it was just feeding us hip hop man,

0:26:54.560 --> 0:26:57.360
<v Speaker 3>just like man fuck it. It was like, oh, now

0:26:57.400 --> 0:26:59.879
<v Speaker 3>we really got an identity. I mean because we was

0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:04.920
<v Speaker 3>already turned up banging Parliament and Atomic Dog and more

0:27:05.080 --> 0:27:08.640
<v Speaker 3>Bounce and shit like that in the hood. So when

0:27:08.640 --> 0:27:12.000
<v Speaker 3>you're throwing some now we got some Curtis Blow the Bang,

0:27:12.119 --> 0:27:16.479
<v Speaker 3>and we got some motherfucking run DMC the Bang, and

0:27:16.520 --> 0:27:20.040
<v Speaker 3>then some Beastie Boys the Bang. It just it just

0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:24.520
<v Speaker 3>it made the notches go up higher because now niggas

0:27:24.520 --> 0:27:27.479
<v Speaker 3>feeling like, oh, we got niggas speaking. And even though

0:27:27.520 --> 0:27:30.679
<v Speaker 3>them niggas was on the hip to hop shit and stale,

0:27:30.920 --> 0:27:34.960
<v Speaker 3>was like the way they was representing themselves, you get me,

0:27:35.400 --> 0:27:38.679
<v Speaker 3>niggas was they was nigga, the Jerry Curls nigga jumping

0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:42.760
<v Speaker 3>out of Cadillacs, Nigga with Dookie gold ropes on. It

0:27:42.920 --> 0:27:47.000
<v Speaker 3>still gave niggas the image of them niggas from the streets.

0:27:47.440 --> 0:27:52.399
<v Speaker 1>You get me, niggas wasn't the mother remember the damn

0:27:52.440 --> 0:27:55.360
<v Speaker 1>right they played run DMC. But it was a lot

0:27:55.359 --> 0:27:57.440
<v Speaker 1>of parody back then because you would hear both. You

0:27:57.480 --> 0:28:00.440
<v Speaker 1>would hear like an EPMD record and for the because

0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:02.480
<v Speaker 1>it was like EPMB was a West Coast group.

0:28:02.800 --> 0:28:05.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we had a lot of that weird Al Yankovic

0:28:05.240 --> 0:28:08.120
<v Speaker 3>shit going on, like you said, parody records and ship.

0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:09.680
<v Speaker 1>It was like a lot of period like you would

0:28:09.680 --> 0:28:12.240
<v Speaker 1>have Bobby Jimmy and the critters, like look at all

0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:14.160
<v Speaker 1>these roaches. He would take a song and make it like.

0:28:14.119 --> 0:28:14.800
<v Speaker 2>A Yeah, they would.

0:28:14.880 --> 0:28:18.120
<v Speaker 4>They would flip rap a lot of stuff for.

0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:18.760
<v Speaker 2>A minute, doog.

0:28:18.840 --> 0:28:22.680
<v Speaker 1>West Coast hip hop was real embarrassing, But then it

0:28:22.800 --> 0:28:25.120
<v Speaker 1>was a lot of hot shit too, Like King Tinam had.

0:28:25.000 --> 0:28:27.879
<v Speaker 3>A cracking your T like I said, Tela had a

0:28:28.000 --> 0:28:33.560
<v Speaker 3>cracking uh Spade, Toddy T, Nick Master Ken, they had

0:28:33.600 --> 0:28:40.200
<v Speaker 3>it cracking on the aspect of we knew that hip

0:28:40.240 --> 0:28:45.440
<v Speaker 3>hop wasn't just my Adidas and my Lee jeans and

0:28:45.760 --> 0:28:49.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, push it and you get me, like we

0:28:49.480 --> 0:28:53.920
<v Speaker 3>knew that it wasn't like friendly rap you get me.

0:28:54.280 --> 0:28:55.800
<v Speaker 2>As an aggression to it.

0:28:55.960 --> 0:29:00.400
<v Speaker 3>We were we knew that ship, but we still played

0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:03.040
<v Speaker 3>motherfucking that type of shit because that's what what was

0:29:03.080 --> 0:29:03.880
<v Speaker 3>floating around.

0:29:04.400 --> 0:29:06.320
<v Speaker 1>Hey, let me ask you something, man, it could be

0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:10.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of controversial when you you were on a major

0:29:10.120 --> 0:29:11.200
<v Speaker 1>radio station out here.

0:29:11.440 --> 0:29:13.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and.

0:29:14.920 --> 0:29:17.240
<v Speaker 1>You know, everything at radio is about the bottom line,

0:29:17.400 --> 0:29:20.120
<v Speaker 1>is with testing, what's calling out? You know, I think

0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:21.520
<v Speaker 1>people searching records all that.

0:29:21.600 --> 0:29:21.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:23.840
<v Speaker 1>I think people just think, oh man, they played the record. No,

0:29:23.920 --> 0:29:25.280
<v Speaker 1>it's a lot of thought that goes in there.

0:29:25.280 --> 0:29:26.640
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's saying it's protocols.

0:29:26.760 --> 0:29:28.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's you know, like you just can't go up

0:29:28.480 --> 0:29:30.160
<v Speaker 1>there and play any record that you're want to.

0:29:31.560 --> 0:29:35.160
<v Speaker 2>Do. You think that system is flawed, yes, but it's

0:29:35.200 --> 0:29:38.400
<v Speaker 2>not flow. So here's the thing about radio. And I

0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:43.800
<v Speaker 2>was at iHeart for seven years and I just left

0:29:43.840 --> 0:29:46.360
<v Speaker 2>what last year or two years ago? I've been going

0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:48.400
<v Speaker 2>that damn. So yeah, I've been going two years now.

0:29:48.440 --> 0:29:51.400
<v Speaker 2>I left. But the thing about radio that people misconstrued

0:29:51.400 --> 0:29:54.840
<v Speaker 2>and they think radio is not no matter. Now this

0:29:54.880 --> 0:29:56.880
<v Speaker 2>is gonna sound really bad, and I probably shouldn't say this,

0:29:56.960 --> 0:30:00.400
<v Speaker 2>but radio is not what they mark get it to

0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:02.680
<v Speaker 2>you as like oh this is the people station or

0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:05.520
<v Speaker 2>oh this is for us by That's not what it is.

0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:07.560
<v Speaker 2>The radio is just like any of the business. It's

0:30:07.560 --> 0:30:10.560
<v Speaker 2>a business, and their job is to generate revenue. Right

0:30:10.960 --> 0:30:14.400
<v Speaker 2>So in the and and their business motto is to

0:30:14.440 --> 0:30:17.280
<v Speaker 2>sell advertising. So just like if you have a podcast

0:30:17.400 --> 0:30:18.880
<v Speaker 2>or you have a YouTube and there's an ad that

0:30:18.880 --> 0:30:20.640
<v Speaker 2>pops up, that's all the radio is there to do

0:30:20.760 --> 0:30:26.160
<v Speaker 2>is to generate those ad those ad impressions. Right. So

0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:28.720
<v Speaker 2>they want to they want you to hear that car dealership.

0:30:28.760 --> 0:30:31.120
<v Speaker 2>They want you to hear that soft drink that they sell.

0:30:31.360 --> 0:30:34.920
<v Speaker 3>Or whatever that that two pays, whatever they're selling, right.

0:30:34.880 --> 0:30:37.479
<v Speaker 2>So the way the system is set up it is

0:30:37.560 --> 0:30:41.400
<v Speaker 2>to incentivize people to hear as many advertisements as possible.

0:30:41.760 --> 0:30:43.880
<v Speaker 2>With that being said, that's why they play the most

0:30:43.880 --> 0:30:47.280
<v Speaker 2>popular songs in the world or in the country. Because

0:30:47.360 --> 0:30:49.520
<v Speaker 2>if you are a bit if you if you have

0:30:49.560 --> 0:30:52.880
<v Speaker 2>a podcast, if you own the Gangster Chronicles podcasts, and

0:30:53.080 --> 0:30:55.360
<v Speaker 2>you know that there's going to be a million people

0:30:55.400 --> 0:30:59.280
<v Speaker 2>listening to this Drake record, you want your podcast advertisement

0:30:59.320 --> 0:31:02.120
<v Speaker 2>to come right after that drink record, not after an unknown,

0:31:02.360 --> 0:31:05.080
<v Speaker 2>big steal record that nobody heard. Because you're gonna get

0:31:05.080 --> 0:31:07.719
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna minimize the amount of people listening. That's all

0:31:07.720 --> 0:31:10.000
<v Speaker 2>the radio is it's not really rocket science. And then

0:31:10.360 --> 0:31:12.560
<v Speaker 2>when it comes to the DJs and the radio personalities

0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:15.160
<v Speaker 2>playing what they want, it's not just protocols, but and

0:31:15.240 --> 0:31:17.880
<v Speaker 2>the protocol is you can't just play whatever you want.

0:31:17.960 --> 0:31:20.640
<v Speaker 2>It's not your shit. It's not that, it's that, it's

0:31:20.680 --> 0:31:22.680
<v Speaker 2>not that, just like I don't know. That's how I

0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:25.440
<v Speaker 2>know that a lot of people didn't. Wasn't raised right

0:31:25.720 --> 0:31:28.920
<v Speaker 2>whenever I have conversations about radio, because I don't know

0:31:28.920 --> 0:31:30.480
<v Speaker 2>how y'all grew up. I can just go in the

0:31:30.560 --> 0:31:34.080
<v Speaker 2>kitchen and just take whatever I want. This is not

0:31:34.120 --> 0:31:37.120
<v Speaker 2>your kitchen. My mom is. I pay the bills here,

0:31:37.200 --> 0:31:39.880
<v Speaker 2>This is my refrigerator, This is my food. You come

0:31:40.000 --> 0:31:41.600
<v Speaker 2>to me and you see and now I might let

0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:43.760
<v Speaker 2>you get at this off a couple of times, but

0:31:43.960 --> 0:31:45.640
<v Speaker 2>this ain't finna be every day you in here just

0:31:45.680 --> 0:31:48.320
<v Speaker 2>taking whatever you want, the fruit snacks, the Graham crackers

0:31:48.400 --> 0:31:51.720
<v Speaker 2>or whatever fruit snacks the first day.

0:31:51.960 --> 0:31:57.000
<v Speaker 3>Goddamn right, So long story short, Always trying to explain

0:31:57.040 --> 0:31:59.960
<v Speaker 3>to people like when you are talking to radio per

0:32:00.000 --> 0:32:03.320
<v Speaker 3>personalities and DJs approach you from a standpoint of they

0:32:03.320 --> 0:32:05.760
<v Speaker 3>have to check what they with whoever they superior is

0:32:05.800 --> 0:32:06.400
<v Speaker 3>before they can.

0:32:06.320 --> 0:32:09.440
<v Speaker 2>Play what they want to play, not only that you can't.

0:32:10.240 --> 0:32:11.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm not I shouldn't say this, but I'm gonna say

0:32:11.680 --> 0:32:16.719
<v Speaker 2>it anyway. Whenever a DJ, a lot of DJs, especially

0:32:16.720 --> 0:32:18.160
<v Speaker 2>here in LA, I'm gonna say this here. I was

0:32:18.160 --> 0:32:20.320
<v Speaker 2>gonna wait to say this publicly, but a lot of

0:32:20.320 --> 0:32:22.560
<v Speaker 2>you DJ's in LA I got a problem with. And

0:32:22.600 --> 0:32:25.960
<v Speaker 2>I got a problem with y'all because either one, you

0:32:26.400 --> 0:32:28.680
<v Speaker 2>don't care about people, or to you ignorant. Either way,

0:32:28.720 --> 0:32:31.760
<v Speaker 2>it's a problem. You don't care about people because you're

0:32:31.800 --> 0:32:33.719
<v Speaker 2>not doing them a service by running and playing their

0:32:33.760 --> 0:32:36.440
<v Speaker 2>record on the radio. And two you either ignorant because

0:32:36.440 --> 0:32:38.920
<v Speaker 2>you don't know that that doesn't benefit them. There's a

0:32:38.960 --> 0:32:43.200
<v Speaker 2>system called media Base. Media Base monitors all the radio stations,

0:32:43.560 --> 0:32:46.160
<v Speaker 2>and you get credit whenever somebody plays your song on

0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:48.880
<v Speaker 2>the radio. If Big Still make a record, or if

0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:51.640
<v Speaker 2>Blasts make a record, or if Todd Alla sign give

0:32:51.680 --> 0:32:53.280
<v Speaker 2>me a record right now, we in the studio and

0:32:53.320 --> 0:32:55.080
<v Speaker 2>I run them to the rail station, I play it.

0:32:55.120 --> 0:32:57.680
<v Speaker 2>That's not gonna benefit him because it's not registered in

0:32:57.760 --> 0:33:00.240
<v Speaker 2>the system, so he gets credit for it, so he

0:33:00.280 --> 0:33:03.160
<v Speaker 2>can't get paid for it. It's not monetized, right, So

0:33:03.400 --> 0:33:05.760
<v Speaker 2>when a DJ. I'm not gonna say names, but when

0:33:05.840 --> 0:33:08.000
<v Speaker 2>DJs be like, oh, this is the new so and so,

0:33:08.040 --> 0:33:10.640
<v Speaker 2>it's hottest in the streets, you're not doing that person

0:33:10.640 --> 0:33:12.680
<v Speaker 2>of service by playing that record on the radio. You're

0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:15.840
<v Speaker 2>actually hurting them because they're not getting paid on that

0:33:15.880 --> 0:33:19.240
<v Speaker 2>record number one and number two once you run it

0:33:19.320 --> 0:33:21.600
<v Speaker 2>up a certain amount of spins. Let's say you get

0:33:21.640 --> 0:33:24.520
<v Speaker 2>to one hundred and fifty spins in LA. You're playing

0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:28.240
<v Speaker 2>this record on the radio. Now, the record is supposed

0:33:28.240 --> 0:33:30.640
<v Speaker 2>to go to research, and research means that they test

0:33:30.680 --> 0:33:33.440
<v Speaker 2>the record in the market. They do various ways of

0:33:33.480 --> 0:33:35.160
<v Speaker 2>testing the record. They go out and they test it

0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:37.440
<v Speaker 2>amongst the people, and if you get a positive score,

0:33:37.480 --> 0:33:38.640
<v Speaker 2>they keep it on the radio. If you get a

0:33:38.640 --> 0:33:41.440
<v Speaker 2>negative score, they take it off the radio. I've been there.

0:33:41.440 --> 0:33:46.160
<v Speaker 2>I've literally been at work doing my show and my

0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:48.600
<v Speaker 2>boss came in and told me like, Hey, you know

0:33:48.680 --> 0:33:51.880
<v Speaker 2>that song that we've been playing forty times a week,

0:33:52.160 --> 0:33:54.120
<v Speaker 2>your Homeboy, that we've been playing forty times a week,

0:33:54.240 --> 0:33:56.800
<v Speaker 2>this song not registered. I'm like, what you mean. It's

0:33:56.840 --> 0:33:59.000
<v Speaker 2>nowhere to be found. It's not on Apple, it's not

0:33:59.040 --> 0:34:03.200
<v Speaker 2>on Spotify, it's not on sound It's only exists on SoundCloud.

0:34:03.400 --> 0:34:05.920
<v Speaker 2>Pull it out now, you don't get you don't get

0:34:05.920 --> 0:34:09.640
<v Speaker 2>a second chance on that record, your shot, right. I've

0:34:09.640 --> 0:34:12.640
<v Speaker 2>seen these people pull a Beyonce record after she did

0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:14.879
<v Speaker 2>the super Bowl. Yeah that record not testing? Well, pull

0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:19.000
<v Speaker 2>that out. It's Beyonce, So you know what I'm saying.

0:34:19.360 --> 0:34:22.360
<v Speaker 2>So people be taking it personal like it's like, oh,

0:34:22.760 --> 0:34:24.320
<v Speaker 2>you don't fuck with me, and no, no, I actually

0:34:24.320 --> 0:34:25.839
<v Speaker 2>do fuck with your Shout out to little dudes too

0:34:25.840 --> 0:34:28.440
<v Speaker 2>from Inglewood because he actually called me a couple of

0:34:28.520 --> 0:34:31.919
<v Speaker 2>years later and said that he appreciated me for giving

0:34:32.000 --> 0:34:33.560
<v Speaker 2>him that game. But a lot of people ain't sharing

0:34:33.560 --> 0:34:35.680
<v Speaker 2>that information. You know how many people are defended you

0:34:35.760 --> 0:34:38.280
<v Speaker 2>from man. I can imagine people think I'm an asshole.

0:34:38.360 --> 0:34:40.520
<v Speaker 2>I can be, but I don't do what you want

0:34:40.560 --> 0:34:42.319
<v Speaker 2>me to do. I do what's best for you. I'm

0:34:42.360 --> 0:34:43.799
<v Speaker 2>not gonna tell you I like your song. If I

0:34:43.800 --> 0:34:46.400
<v Speaker 2>think it's trash, I'm not gonna go advocate for your record.

0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:48.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna go advocate for your record in these

0:34:48.560 --> 0:34:50.399
<v Speaker 2>buildings with these white people because I know what they're

0:34:50.440 --> 0:34:50.839
<v Speaker 2>looking for.

0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:53.359
<v Speaker 3>So what do you call those people who do that?

0:34:53.960 --> 0:34:56.640
<v Speaker 3>Because you got a lot of those that won't give

0:34:56.760 --> 0:34:59.640
<v Speaker 3>that now. I'm just gonna be honest. Man, it's not

0:34:59.719 --> 0:35:01.439
<v Speaker 3>a good record, it's not a good song.

0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:02.359
<v Speaker 2>What do I call those people?

0:35:02.480 --> 0:35:04.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't know.

0:35:04.440 --> 0:35:05.120
<v Speaker 2>I just I'm me.

0:35:05.400 --> 0:35:08.080
<v Speaker 3>I don't It's a lot of those though, you get me.

0:35:08.400 --> 0:35:11.120
<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of records that shouldn't even see the

0:35:11.200 --> 0:35:13.120
<v Speaker 3>light of day. But you got a lot of code

0:35:13.160 --> 0:35:16.319
<v Speaker 3>signers and a lot of motherfuckers who go, oh no, man,

0:35:16.320 --> 0:35:17.719
<v Speaker 3>that motherfucker hard at fuck.

0:35:17.840 --> 0:35:20.240
<v Speaker 2>Let's roll with that. You know what I told the homie, Sorry,

0:35:20.600 --> 0:35:22.840
<v Speaker 2>you know what I told the homie about that. The

0:35:22.920 --> 0:35:27.960
<v Speaker 2>hommy was like, you know, man, you just be hating.

0:35:28.520 --> 0:35:31.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm like really, He's like, yeah, you the problem. I said, Okay,

0:35:31.640 --> 0:35:33.719
<v Speaker 2>let me paint a picture for you then, bro, Since

0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:35.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm the problem, right, because I'm the gatekeeper and I'm

0:35:35.960 --> 0:35:38.280
<v Speaker 2>the one that's stopping you from eating by not playing

0:35:38.320 --> 0:35:40.359
<v Speaker 2>your song on the radio, not knowing that you get

0:35:40.440 --> 0:35:42.920
<v Speaker 2>less than you get a third of a penny for

0:35:42.960 --> 0:35:44.879
<v Speaker 2>every time you get played on the radio. But since

0:35:44.880 --> 0:35:46.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm holding you back in life, let me give you

0:35:46.520 --> 0:35:50.839
<v Speaker 2>some game. You went to the studio because you don't

0:35:50.840 --> 0:35:53.200
<v Speaker 2>record in the house. You go to a studio, you

0:35:53.239 --> 0:35:55.719
<v Speaker 2>went to the studio. At the studio, there was a producer,

0:35:55.880 --> 0:35:59.200
<v Speaker 2>there was an engineer, there was four girls. That's six people,

0:36:00.239 --> 0:36:04.319
<v Speaker 2>right there was that's six people. Then on top of

0:36:04.320 --> 0:36:06.640
<v Speaker 2>that you had three of the homies there. That's nine people.

0:36:07.040 --> 0:36:09.760
<v Speaker 2>After that you got the song mixed. That's another person.

0:36:09.760 --> 0:36:13.360
<v Speaker 2>That's ten people. Then when it got mastered, that's eleven people.

0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:16.080
<v Speaker 2>So you mean to tell me that this song was

0:36:16.120 --> 0:36:18.840
<v Speaker 2>trashed through eleven other people, and because I told you

0:36:18.880 --> 0:36:23.080
<v Speaker 2>it was trash, I'm the asshole. That's not crazy. You

0:36:23.200 --> 0:36:24.880
<v Speaker 2>know what the problem is.

0:36:24.960 --> 0:36:28.400
<v Speaker 3>All of me is them ten before you. It's telling

0:36:28.440 --> 0:36:29.440
<v Speaker 3>the nigga that is whole.

0:36:29.600 --> 0:36:32.319
<v Speaker 2>That's what I was gonna say, that's the problem. That's

0:36:32.320 --> 0:36:33.920
<v Speaker 2>what I'm trying to tell I'm not the problem.

0:36:34.040 --> 0:36:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Nobody gets honest. Now, I don't exactly just be an.

0:36:37.760 --> 0:36:40.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm not exactly an asshole all the time. If I

0:36:40.680 --> 0:36:42.200
<v Speaker 1>hear a record and it's not a good record, I

0:36:42.239 --> 0:36:45.520
<v Speaker 1>can steal somebody. You need to go back to the before. Yeah,

0:36:45.520 --> 0:36:47.799
<v Speaker 1>for sure, I have no problem. Yeah, I've heard them.

0:36:48.120 --> 0:36:50.000
<v Speaker 4>Like nigga that don't sound good.

0:36:50.080 --> 0:36:52.319
<v Speaker 1>You gotta remember eight I was a and R man.

0:36:52.440 --> 0:36:54.520
<v Speaker 1>I actually had an a and r job And I'm gonna

0:36:54.520 --> 0:36:57.520
<v Speaker 1>tell you. When I first took the position, it was

0:36:57.600 --> 0:36:59.600
<v Speaker 1>hard telling somebody that they ship was trash. You know,

0:36:59.640 --> 0:37:01.120
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to be nicecause some of the people are

0:37:01.120 --> 0:37:03.120
<v Speaker 1>actually cool people. What would you tell them?

0:37:03.160 --> 0:37:05.000
<v Speaker 3>But after a while I would say, I know, you

0:37:05.000 --> 0:37:06.360
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't say it was trash.

0:37:06.640 --> 0:37:09.239
<v Speaker 1>I would try to tell them because I heard two

0:37:09.280 --> 0:37:11.640
<v Speaker 1>types of trash. It was two types of trash, right,

0:37:13.440 --> 0:37:17.160
<v Speaker 1>it was two types of trash. You would have a person, yeah,

0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:20.000
<v Speaker 1>but you would have you would actually have a person.

0:37:20.040 --> 0:37:22.200
<v Speaker 1>You would actually have an artist that may have had talent,

0:37:22.640 --> 0:37:26.799
<v Speaker 1>but they just had bad production. The hook game might

0:37:26.800 --> 0:37:28.319
<v Speaker 1>have been. You know, you could tell they still needed

0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:31.279
<v Speaker 1>some more development, right, those people, I would kind of

0:37:31.440 --> 0:37:33.400
<v Speaker 1>spend time and tell them, hey, you need to do this,

0:37:33.440 --> 0:37:35.920
<v Speaker 1>and I would refirm like I would send people over

0:37:35.920 --> 0:37:38.680
<v Speaker 1>the fingers moaning fingers hot at the time. I would say, man,

0:37:38.800 --> 0:37:40.759
<v Speaker 1>you just need to beat your producer and good. You

0:37:40.800 --> 0:37:42.600
<v Speaker 1>just need to go get you a producer, you know,

0:37:43.280 --> 0:37:47.279
<v Speaker 1>go holler at fingers or you had the people that

0:37:47.360 --> 0:37:50.560
<v Speaker 1>didn't have no talent, didn't have none. You would be

0:37:50.600 --> 0:37:52.799
<v Speaker 1>looking at them like why would you go to and

0:37:52.960 --> 0:37:56.040
<v Speaker 1>what was funny. You got those two different dynamics, right,

0:37:56.080 --> 0:37:58.080
<v Speaker 1>You got the one person that got talent but can't

0:37:58.080 --> 0:38:01.440
<v Speaker 1>afford in the studio time, and you got motherfucker is trash.

0:38:01.640 --> 0:38:04.000
<v Speaker 1>And it seemed like he got unlimited resource. He got

0:38:04.000 --> 0:38:07.120
<v Speaker 1>a thirty thousand dollars music video with it. He bought

0:38:07.120 --> 0:38:09.479
<v Speaker 1>some tracks from Scott Storks. He on bought a verse

0:38:09.480 --> 0:38:12.560
<v Speaker 1>from this person. And you hear the record, and what

0:38:12.560 --> 0:38:15.480
<v Speaker 1>they make the mistake and do is they'll put the

0:38:15.520 --> 0:38:18.239
<v Speaker 1>feature that they brought first. Right, So you hear this

0:38:18.320 --> 0:38:20.120
<v Speaker 1>jam and ass beat, you hear feet like, yeah, this

0:38:20.400 --> 0:38:24.200
<v Speaker 1>is hard. Then he come on and it's like, broh,

0:38:24.719 --> 0:38:26.640
<v Speaker 1>you just went on to waste all this money on

0:38:26.680 --> 0:38:30.000
<v Speaker 1>this record. That's not good man, it's not a good record.

0:38:30.000 --> 0:38:32.200
<v Speaker 1>I had no problem telling nobody shit. I didn't have

0:38:32.200 --> 0:38:34.239
<v Speaker 1>a problem telling people that they shit was trash.

0:38:35.160 --> 0:38:37.919
<v Speaker 2>Well, do you know what's interesting about that? I used

0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:39.680
<v Speaker 2>to I've never had a problem with that. I mean,

0:38:39.719 --> 0:38:41.279
<v Speaker 2>you know that like me and you have had that

0:38:41.320 --> 0:38:44.680
<v Speaker 2>conversation before. But I've never had a problem telling people

0:38:44.760 --> 0:38:47.880
<v Speaker 2>that their music was trash. What I have a problem

0:38:47.880 --> 0:38:49.799
<v Speaker 2>with is them having a problem with me after they

0:38:49.840 --> 0:38:52.799
<v Speaker 2>asked me, yeah, you can't ask me something and then

0:38:52.840 --> 0:38:56.040
<v Speaker 2>be mad at my answer. You if you request information

0:38:56.280 --> 0:38:58.520
<v Speaker 2>and I give you information, you then can't be mad

0:38:58.560 --> 0:39:00.480
<v Speaker 2>at the information I gave you because I didn't walk

0:39:00.480 --> 0:39:01.920
<v Speaker 2>in the studio and be like, you know't ate that

0:39:01.920 --> 0:39:05.080
<v Speaker 2>that record trash bro. You Now, if you asked me

0:39:05.360 --> 0:39:07.279
<v Speaker 2>and you say, hey, what's your nigga about this?

0:39:07.320 --> 0:39:07.480
<v Speaker 4>Man?

0:39:07.480 --> 0:39:11.359
<v Speaker 2>That shit garbage, you can't be mad because you asked me, right,

0:39:12.320 --> 0:39:13.160
<v Speaker 2>stuff that makes it.

0:39:13.239 --> 0:39:16.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, some people are real sensitive when they kind.

0:39:16.239 --> 0:39:20.040
<v Speaker 1>Of people needed to stop being so fucking sensitive though

0:39:20.160 --> 0:39:25.640
<v Speaker 1>it's not gonna happen, nah, especially doing music. H You

0:39:25.640 --> 0:39:28.160
<v Speaker 1>you've had a successful music career. I ain't gonna say

0:39:28.200 --> 0:39:32.840
<v Speaker 1>ad because that's pair you're still selling records. You had

0:39:32.880 --> 0:39:35.399
<v Speaker 1>people that didn't like your music, right, oh all the time.

0:39:35.760 --> 0:39:38.560
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying. Music is so subjective, and that's

0:39:38.600 --> 0:39:40.680
<v Speaker 1>what I would tell people at the end of the day. Look,

0:39:41.239 --> 0:39:44.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't like it, man, but I've heard work ship

0:39:44.600 --> 0:39:47.759
<v Speaker 1>going to you know, going to do it incredible shit.

0:39:48.640 --> 0:39:51.160
<v Speaker 2>When I first heard them, I ain't even gonna do that.

0:39:53.120 --> 0:39:54.560
<v Speaker 4>Man, put it out there.

0:39:54.800 --> 0:39:58.600
<v Speaker 3>It is because listen, a gang of shit is trash

0:39:58.680 --> 0:40:03.120
<v Speaker 3>today and you see motherfucker's selling a gang out of it, Like,

0:40:03.600 --> 0:40:07.440
<v Speaker 3>come on, there's a lot of trash that's out right now,

0:40:07.640 --> 0:40:11.080
<v Speaker 3>but it's pushed like it's the number one ship going.

0:40:12.320 --> 0:40:14.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I'm gonna tell you, man, is that just.

0:40:14.320 --> 0:40:16.520
<v Speaker 4>Because mother I don't want to say this.

0:40:16.600 --> 0:40:20.520
<v Speaker 3>Man, motherfuckers have the resources to force feed you.

0:40:22.120 --> 0:40:24.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tell you there was a girl that was

0:40:24.480 --> 0:40:27.319
<v Speaker 1>a singer. I'm not gonna say her name because she

0:40:27.440 --> 0:40:29.400
<v Speaker 1>was huge, especially on the West coast.

0:40:29.160 --> 0:40:31.040
<v Speaker 2>Because we're gonna figure that ship out in a minute.

0:40:31.800 --> 0:40:32.920
<v Speaker 2>It's thing.

0:40:33.000 --> 0:40:35.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, she wasn't the prettiest girl, and you know

0:40:35.080 --> 0:40:37.319
<v Speaker 1>she wasn't. I ain't gonna say she was ugly. Well,

0:40:37.320 --> 0:40:37.920
<v Speaker 1>she didn't.

0:40:37.680 --> 0:40:38.359
<v Speaker 2>Look like a star.

0:40:38.440 --> 0:40:39.680
<v Speaker 4>What she was about what a four?

0:40:40.239 --> 0:40:43.120
<v Speaker 1>She was about a four or five and she had

0:40:43.160 --> 0:40:45.759
<v Speaker 1>these big, huge records. Dog, And I would be like,

0:40:46.000 --> 0:40:48.279
<v Speaker 1>I remember her name though, but I'm not gonna say it.

0:40:48.360 --> 0:40:52.759
<v Speaker 2>Dog. But that ship was a truth. No, I say

0:40:52.800 --> 0:40:53.520
<v Speaker 2>it's initials.

0:40:53.560 --> 0:40:57.920
<v Speaker 4>It was the name of one of the songs.

0:41:00.040 --> 0:41:00.560
<v Speaker 2>The initials.

0:41:00.560 --> 0:41:04.040
<v Speaker 1>I said, like this first name begins with ah.

0:41:04.120 --> 0:41:06.120
<v Speaker 4>You just did it right there. Somebody gonna figure that

0:41:06.120 --> 0:41:07.000
<v Speaker 4>ship and.

0:41:07.040 --> 0:41:10.320
<v Speaker 1>Their primary markt was like the Ox Gnar Baker's Field

0:41:10.400 --> 0:41:11.040
<v Speaker 1>all that stuff.

0:41:11.719 --> 0:41:14.839
<v Speaker 2>It played like because she was a Mexican girl.

0:41:15.120 --> 0:41:19.080
<v Speaker 3>Okay, you just keep writing, put it out there, yeah,

0:41:19.440 --> 0:41:22.160
<v Speaker 3>walk it down, but walk it down.

0:41:22.440 --> 0:41:26.480
<v Speaker 1>It was pretty bad and people thought this ship was amazing.

0:41:27.040 --> 0:41:29.000
<v Speaker 1>And you can't say that because you looked like a

0:41:29.080 --> 0:41:32.360
<v Speaker 1>motherfucking hater saying something. She's selling out, Jen ughs And

0:41:32.360 --> 0:41:33.960
<v Speaker 1>I be like, man, something must be wrong with me.

0:41:34.080 --> 0:41:34.880
<v Speaker 2>I just don't see it.

0:41:34.960 --> 0:41:38.719
<v Speaker 3>Think sometimes that be the culture of who the people are.

0:41:40.640 --> 0:41:46.000
<v Speaker 3>When you just said she was a Spanish chick, they

0:41:46.080 --> 0:41:47.840
<v Speaker 3>support they motherfucking people.

0:41:47.920 --> 0:41:47.960
<v Speaker 2>No.

0:41:48.160 --> 0:41:51.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I'm gonna tell you I don't think race

0:41:51.480 --> 0:41:54.080
<v Speaker 1>had nothing. I don't think race has nothing to do

0:41:54.120 --> 0:41:57.640
<v Speaker 1>with talent because I've heard some Mexican girls that they're tight.

0:41:57.680 --> 0:41:59.440
<v Speaker 1>They gotta hit records. You know the Homi beer shot.

0:42:00.640 --> 0:42:02.680
<v Speaker 1>He don't send me shitting out? Why this shit is amazing?

0:42:03.040 --> 0:42:04.680
<v Speaker 2>It was tight? Good is good? Bad?

0:42:04.719 --> 0:42:07.399
<v Speaker 1>It is bad, bro. But I'm gonna tell you this.

0:42:08.640 --> 0:42:11.879
<v Speaker 1>Nowadays it's well, you know what, and it's been that way.

0:42:11.880 --> 0:42:15.200
<v Speaker 1>I ain't gonna say nowadays. Radio has always been about

0:42:15.239 --> 0:42:18.319
<v Speaker 1>money for independent artists. If you've seen the independent artist

0:42:18.400 --> 0:42:21.160
<v Speaker 1>that was getting the record paid five hundred and six

0:42:21.239 --> 0:42:24.400
<v Speaker 1>hundred times a week. It was some money being paid

0:42:24.400 --> 0:42:26.440
<v Speaker 1>for that dog. You have to after a while, I

0:42:26.480 --> 0:42:28.200
<v Speaker 1>can say this not because I don't give a fuck

0:42:28.200 --> 0:42:31.680
<v Speaker 1>about no radio station playing my record. I remember I

0:42:31.719 --> 0:42:33.840
<v Speaker 1>was promoting the record, right, and we went on a

0:42:33.880 --> 0:42:41.360
<v Speaker 1>promo run, and I know I spent the gang of money.

0:42:41.400 --> 0:42:43.600
<v Speaker 1>I spent like thirty thousand dollars a dog. That's a

0:42:43.600 --> 0:42:46.319
<v Speaker 1>lot of money. And I was about like up to

0:42:46.440 --> 0:42:49.480
<v Speaker 1>like two hundred and fifty three hundred spins a week, right,

0:42:50.600 --> 0:42:53.480
<v Speaker 1>And I kept noticing in the orders to sustain the

0:42:53.520 --> 0:42:56.000
<v Speaker 1>record and keep them playing it, I kept having to

0:42:56.040 --> 0:42:58.680
<v Speaker 1>paid pread dog. Kept had to pay fucking money.

0:42:58.680 --> 0:42:58.919
<v Speaker 2>Dog.

0:42:59.280 --> 0:43:01.920
<v Speaker 1>And then I learned the hard way because somebody told me,

0:43:01.920 --> 0:43:04.560
<v Speaker 1>because to see at least in a rhythmic market that's

0:43:04.600 --> 0:43:06.000
<v Speaker 1>the West Coast, you know what I mean, Like the

0:43:07.160 --> 0:43:11.200
<v Speaker 1>c CHR stations, the rhythmic stations, right, they all have

0:43:11.360 --> 0:43:13.200
<v Speaker 1>a mixed show format, you feel.

0:43:12.960 --> 0:43:13.480
<v Speaker 2>What I'm saying.

0:43:13.560 --> 0:43:16.799
<v Speaker 1>So I was collecting a lot of spins like that, right,

0:43:18.200 --> 0:43:20.320
<v Speaker 1>I had somebody that was about to add my record,

0:43:20.480 --> 0:43:23.200
<v Speaker 1>and instead of my dumb ass just being happy with

0:43:23.320 --> 0:43:26.120
<v Speaker 1>the you know, mixed show action, I was getting I

0:43:26.200 --> 0:43:30.640
<v Speaker 1>paid money and the PD got fired the next day.

0:43:30.680 --> 0:43:33.520
<v Speaker 1>But I can say this is because this in their defense,

0:43:34.320 --> 0:43:36.839
<v Speaker 1>I didn't physically give the program the record of the money.

0:43:36.880 --> 0:43:39.000
<v Speaker 1>I gave it to the promoter that was with me,

0:43:39.040 --> 0:43:41.000
<v Speaker 1>the laders of the promoter, and I got up and

0:43:41.040 --> 0:43:43.399
<v Speaker 1>went to the bathroom. And that's I assume they did

0:43:43.440 --> 0:43:46.120
<v Speaker 1>whatever they did, right. This shit really go down dog

0:43:46.320 --> 0:43:50.160
<v Speaker 1>like that. So my record is playing, I'm added, man,

0:43:50.280 --> 0:43:52.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm going on the way back to the crib. They

0:43:52.200 --> 0:43:54.520
<v Speaker 1>played that motherfucker three or four times before I could

0:43:54.520 --> 0:43:59.160
<v Speaker 1>get the motherfucking grapevine. Good right. So I get a

0:43:59.160 --> 0:44:03.480
<v Speaker 1>call the next I'm not gonna say the man's name,

0:44:04.440 --> 0:44:08.759
<v Speaker 1>but he tells me your days of getting played at

0:44:08.760 --> 0:44:11.080
<v Speaker 1>my stations without going through me are over. Buddy, I

0:44:11.080 --> 0:44:14.200
<v Speaker 1>don't know who you think you are. And it tripped

0:44:14.200 --> 0:44:17.760
<v Speaker 1>me to fuss and who is this he wanted to cut?

0:44:18.520 --> 0:44:20.920
<v Speaker 1>You don't go through nobody else without going through.

0:44:20.920 --> 0:44:24.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about. I have no idea what you're talking about. Yeah,

0:44:24.719 --> 0:44:25.319
<v Speaker 2>keep it that way.

0:44:28.200 --> 0:44:30.719
<v Speaker 4>You got damn right, dude.

0:44:30.840 --> 0:44:32.480
<v Speaker 1>Was I'm not gonna say his name because he's a

0:44:32.480 --> 0:44:36.759
<v Speaker 1>powerful motherfucker, right, And it let me know right there

0:44:36.880 --> 0:44:38.000
<v Speaker 1>that this shit is rigged.

0:44:38.080 --> 0:44:43.480
<v Speaker 3>Org Man, the homie was was expressing his, uh, his

0:44:43.600 --> 0:44:45.359
<v Speaker 3>opinions about that to me.

0:44:47.239 --> 0:44:48.000
<v Speaker 4>This morning.

0:44:48.560 --> 0:44:52.279
<v Speaker 3>The craziness about because you know, he's one of those

0:44:52.400 --> 0:44:55.600
<v Speaker 3>cats who you know, tried to get in back in

0:44:55.640 --> 0:45:00.360
<v Speaker 3>the days, you know, when everybody was coming out, and

0:45:00.360 --> 0:45:04.399
<v Speaker 3>and he was real offended to buy the fact that,

0:45:05.520 --> 0:45:09.520
<v Speaker 3>like you said, it's supposed to be for the people,

0:45:10.000 --> 0:45:12.920
<v Speaker 3>supposed to be for you. You supposed to be for

0:45:12.960 --> 0:45:16.840
<v Speaker 3>the average motherfucker. You should be if motherfucker, if you

0:45:16.920 --> 0:45:20.160
<v Speaker 3>win into the studio and cut you a motherfucker record,

0:45:20.880 --> 0:45:23.280
<v Speaker 3>you should be able to get it played on the radio,

0:45:23.440 --> 0:45:26.360
<v Speaker 3>because it's the station is supposed to be for the people.

0:45:26.680 --> 0:45:29.680
<v Speaker 3>You give me, And so he was real upset about

0:45:29.719 --> 0:45:33.480
<v Speaker 3>the payola shit you get me, I could get my

0:45:33.680 --> 0:45:36.360
<v Speaker 3>radio record on the radio, or niggas want to disc

0:45:36.400 --> 0:45:39.040
<v Speaker 3>It seems like you pay your motherfucker, you get on

0:45:39.080 --> 0:45:41.839
<v Speaker 3>the mix show, and the next thing you know, motherfucker like, oh,

0:45:41.880 --> 0:45:43.960
<v Speaker 3>you want to play next week or you want to

0:45:44.000 --> 0:45:46.719
<v Speaker 3>play the week after. It's like you just keep forking money,

0:45:46.800 --> 0:45:47.600
<v Speaker 3>keep forking money.

0:45:47.800 --> 0:45:50.720
<v Speaker 1>Just to clarify some I want to clarify something, parl

0:45:50.760 --> 0:45:52.719
<v Speaker 1>One on six played my record a lot. I never

0:45:52.719 --> 0:45:55.239
<v Speaker 1>once gave him a dine. It wouldn't like that.

0:45:55.520 --> 0:45:55.759
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:45:55.800 --> 0:45:59.359
<v Speaker 1>What I noticed is the smaller stations, But those are

0:45:59.360 --> 0:46:02.200
<v Speaker 1>the ones where you get expians from right. Because Power

0:46:02.239 --> 0:46:04.640
<v Speaker 1>is only gonna play you. You gotta test good at

0:46:04.640 --> 0:46:06.760
<v Speaker 1>the powers and at the you know, the big bigger

0:46:06.840 --> 0:46:09.680
<v Speaker 1>radio stations, the k's now and stuff like that. It

0:46:09.719 --> 0:46:12.360
<v Speaker 1>ain't just like they just up. They just in people's

0:46:12.360 --> 0:46:15.520
<v Speaker 1>pockets off the rip like that. But it is a dirty.

0:46:15.239 --> 0:46:22.040
<v Speaker 3>Game, no, I mean share. I guess that's why I

0:46:22.120 --> 0:46:31.840
<v Speaker 3>never focused on radio. Uh my career, my label never

0:46:32.880 --> 0:46:36.640
<v Speaker 3>took that route. They didn't have to get Nigga. I

0:46:36.640 --> 0:46:38.080
<v Speaker 3>didn't get songs played on the radio.

0:46:38.239 --> 0:46:40.319
<v Speaker 1>That's what they didn't have to. But that's what I'm saying.

0:46:40.320 --> 0:46:42.960
<v Speaker 1>But you was going out selling the gold album. They

0:46:43.000 --> 0:46:44.840
<v Speaker 1>look at it like this, this motherfucker go go go.

0:46:45.040 --> 0:46:45.879
<v Speaker 1>We ain't gotta do shit.

0:46:46.719 --> 0:46:50.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I didn't get radio play. They that was one

0:46:50.200 --> 0:46:54.880
<v Speaker 3>thing that Epic did not do. We're not going for

0:46:54.960 --> 0:46:58.560
<v Speaker 3>no radio with MC eight, So that was something I

0:46:58.600 --> 0:47:02.560
<v Speaker 3>never even I It never pressured me either to go, I.

0:47:02.520 --> 0:47:03.880
<v Speaker 2>Need to make a radio song.

0:47:04.120 --> 0:47:06.720
<v Speaker 3>You get me because I already knew that they wasn't

0:47:06.800 --> 0:47:08.680
<v Speaker 3>going to radio with my records.

0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:11.560
<v Speaker 1>Bro it was cheap. It was cheap to make your album.

0:47:12.760 --> 0:47:14.680
<v Speaker 1>It's not like they had to call in a band

0:47:14.680 --> 0:47:17.080
<v Speaker 1>and you had tick and slipping them.

0:47:17.160 --> 0:47:17.680
<v Speaker 4>That was it.

0:47:18.640 --> 0:47:21.120
<v Speaker 1>You know, do your record and they go make eight

0:47:21.200 --> 0:47:22.960
<v Speaker 1>nine million dollars. I'll be with that too. It's a

0:47:22.960 --> 0:47:25.880
<v Speaker 1>perfect business model. Ship Man going to give them some

0:47:25.920 --> 0:47:28.719
<v Speaker 1>more money and let him go do his thing. We

0:47:28.800 --> 0:47:34.560
<v Speaker 1>could be profitable. It's profitable, you know. Yeah. But like

0:47:34.600 --> 0:47:37.880
<v Speaker 1>I said, I never I never made music. I felt

0:47:38.160 --> 0:47:41.239
<v Speaker 1>was gonna make radio anyway. So from the start of

0:47:41.280 --> 0:47:44.600
<v Speaker 1>my career it never fucked with me. I never got

0:47:44.640 --> 0:47:48.359
<v Speaker 1>in the studio and had the pressure from Epic to go.

0:47:49.000 --> 0:47:52.640
<v Speaker 3>We need another radio single, we need another radio song,

0:47:53.160 --> 0:47:56.400
<v Speaker 3>because that's pressure you get me. So, like a, I

0:47:56.400 --> 0:47:58.680
<v Speaker 3>didn't have to deal with that. Ship Hey, Hey, let

0:47:58.680 --> 0:48:04.040
<v Speaker 3>me ask you something. Bro Bear called me. Bears the

0:48:04.080 --> 0:48:06.880
<v Speaker 3>program director the programs a lot of radio stations. To

0:48:06.960 --> 0:48:09.880
<v Speaker 3>my god, he called me one day and said, Man,

0:48:09.920 --> 0:48:11.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna tell you who gonna be the man in

0:48:11.680 --> 0:48:13.920
<v Speaker 3>l A. And he's a man. He has to be

0:48:13.960 --> 0:48:16.360
<v Speaker 3>the one to move our culture forward. You have to

0:48:16.480 --> 0:48:18.560
<v Speaker 3>DJ Head and I can start laughing. I said, Man,

0:48:18.560 --> 0:48:20.200
<v Speaker 3>you gotta be fucking killing that motherfucker.

0:48:20.200 --> 0:48:20.600
<v Speaker 2>Ain't shit.

0:48:22.080 --> 0:48:27.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm just playing. But he told me that. Man, And

0:48:27.680 --> 0:48:29.279
<v Speaker 1>on top of that, I started getting a lot of

0:48:29.280 --> 0:48:32.239
<v Speaker 1>the little rapper home. He's complaining, Man, Nigga Head is

0:48:32.280 --> 0:48:34.680
<v Speaker 1>a hater. That nigga told me that. I said, well, man,

0:48:34.719 --> 0:48:36.520
<v Speaker 1>if you asked him something, he can tell you the truth.

0:48:37.120 --> 0:48:39.400
<v Speaker 1>You should respect that. Now I'm tell in the artists,

0:48:39.400 --> 0:48:41.200
<v Speaker 1>you should respect the dude that tells.

0:48:40.920 --> 0:48:43.120
<v Speaker 2>You the truth. The dude that just let you keep

0:48:43.160 --> 0:48:45.360
<v Speaker 2>going making a fool out of yourself. It's not your friend.

0:48:45.400 --> 0:48:47.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm always gonna tell you got some in your teeth,

0:48:47.280 --> 0:48:48.839
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna tell you got a booger in your nose,

0:48:49.080 --> 0:48:50.600
<v Speaker 2>and I'm gonna tell you if your song is whack,

0:48:51.080 --> 0:48:53.480
<v Speaker 2>it's not. It's no different to me than than when

0:48:53.520 --> 0:48:55.799
<v Speaker 2>you're about to lead a house and your your you know,

0:48:55.880 --> 0:48:58.239
<v Speaker 2>your your boxers is showing or you know. It's the

0:48:58.280 --> 0:49:01.480
<v Speaker 2>same thing to me, and and it took to be

0:49:01.520 --> 0:49:04.560
<v Speaker 2>honest with you. Where that comes from. Yeah, that's my personality.

0:49:04.560 --> 0:49:07.000
<v Speaker 2>That's how I grew up. But it also comes from

0:49:08.239 --> 0:49:11.120
<v Speaker 2>us not having at like nobody really helped us like that,

0:49:11.280 --> 0:49:14.480
<v Speaker 2>not in that way. Either they didn't know and they

0:49:14.480 --> 0:49:18.640
<v Speaker 2>didn't give us the information, or they had the information.

0:49:18.800 --> 0:49:20.520
<v Speaker 2>And the game is to be sold and not to

0:49:20.520 --> 0:49:21.920
<v Speaker 2>be the I don't subscribed to none of that shit,

0:49:21.960 --> 0:49:23.839
<v Speaker 2>because that's how we our people stay ignorant, that's how

0:49:23.840 --> 0:49:26.440
<v Speaker 2>people stay down. You can't find one person in the

0:49:26.520 --> 0:49:28.800
<v Speaker 2>music business that ever gave me a check to do anything,

0:49:29.120 --> 0:49:32.200
<v Speaker 2>play a play a record for consultations. I pull up

0:49:32.200 --> 0:49:35.480
<v Speaker 2>the Nigga studios for free. I've never taken money. I've

0:49:35.480 --> 0:49:38.160
<v Speaker 2>gotten co production on at least three hit records that

0:49:38.160 --> 0:49:41.680
<v Speaker 2>that never took points on the album. That's a fact, right. So,

0:49:42.440 --> 0:49:45.880
<v Speaker 2>but that's my contribution. And the only fee is for

0:49:45.960 --> 0:49:48.600
<v Speaker 2>me to be myself and to be honest. That's my fee.

0:49:49.000 --> 0:49:52.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm not willing to budget my fee. So if you

0:49:52.040 --> 0:49:54.360
<v Speaker 2>want my assistance, Oh, we need to figure out how

0:49:54.360 --> 0:49:56.600
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna get on this festival. Hey, can you help us?

0:49:56.680 --> 0:49:57.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh we need to figure out how we gonna get

0:49:57.920 --> 0:49:59.799
<v Speaker 2>on the radio head Can you help us? Yeah? What

0:49:59.840 --> 0:50:02.160
<v Speaker 2>you need nothing. I just need the space to be honest.

0:50:03.160 --> 0:50:07.359
<v Speaker 2>That's it. That's my feet and honesty is a rarity. Nowadays. Bro.

0:50:07.600 --> 0:50:10.440
<v Speaker 2>So then when you look at people who take that offensively,

0:50:10.719 --> 0:50:13.319
<v Speaker 2>I actually I don't even want to work with those

0:50:13.360 --> 0:50:15.080
<v Speaker 2>people at all. I don't want to be around them

0:50:15.080 --> 0:50:17.400
<v Speaker 2>out because that tells me that you're not even in

0:50:17.400 --> 0:50:21.120
<v Speaker 2>the space to receive what you're asking for if you ask.

0:50:21.200 --> 0:50:23.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm a spiritual person, So if you ask God to

0:50:23.680 --> 0:50:25.720
<v Speaker 2>bless you, but you know you ain't in the space

0:50:25.719 --> 0:50:27.479
<v Speaker 2>to receive, then you wasting God's time.

0:50:28.400 --> 0:50:33.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna give you a prime example of constructive criticism

0:50:33.760 --> 0:50:35.200
<v Speaker 1>working in the positive manner.

0:50:35.320 --> 0:50:35.480
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:50:37.760 --> 0:50:39.840
<v Speaker 1>I talk about top Dog here and there at my

0:50:39.920 --> 0:50:43.560
<v Speaker 1>homie that you know run tde and here you know

0:50:43.640 --> 0:50:45.879
<v Speaker 1>this you was around too early days. We go back

0:50:45.920 --> 0:50:47.880
<v Speaker 1>with them dudes, like when they was back there record

0:50:47.880 --> 0:50:50.560
<v Speaker 1>and when it wasn't no Kendrick Lamar being a top

0:50:50.640 --> 0:50:52.839
<v Speaker 1>rapper in the world. They just some congree kids, right.

0:50:54.440 --> 0:50:57.239
<v Speaker 1>I remember Man, so many people. Man would sleep on

0:50:57.280 --> 0:51:00.520
<v Speaker 1>top and he would be mad at first, you know,

0:51:00.560 --> 0:51:03.479
<v Speaker 1>Tom would be ready to destroy some shit, but after

0:51:03.560 --> 0:51:07.759
<v Speaker 1>a while he started kind of just taking it to face, like, well,

0:51:07.760 --> 0:51:10.239
<v Speaker 1>maybe this shit ain't what I thought it was. And

0:51:10.280 --> 0:51:13.040
<v Speaker 1>they started actually making really like it left it was

0:51:13.120 --> 0:51:16.880
<v Speaker 1>already cool but they leveled up to where the records

0:51:16.920 --> 0:51:17.880
<v Speaker 1>was underniped.

0:51:17.920 --> 0:51:19.880
<v Speaker 3>So what do you think that was? Was it the

0:51:20.000 --> 0:51:22.720
<v Speaker 3>talent or they just wasn't ready or well.

0:51:23.000 --> 0:51:26.239
<v Speaker 1>They were always talented, right, I just think they hadn't

0:51:26.239 --> 0:51:29.680
<v Speaker 1>made the right records yet. You know, sometimes this level

0:51:29.719 --> 0:51:32.160
<v Speaker 1>was to it. They were definitely dope enough to where

0:51:32.160 --> 0:51:34.359
<v Speaker 1>that's when the bloggers started cracking a little bit where

0:51:34.360 --> 0:51:37.279
<v Speaker 1>the bloggers took notice of them. But they didn't necessarily

0:51:37.360 --> 0:51:40.279
<v Speaker 1>have no that big record. Like even though eight you

0:51:40.320 --> 0:51:42.959
<v Speaker 1>ain't never had no top forty record, you was able

0:51:42.960 --> 0:51:46.640
<v Speaker 1>to go in and produce a straight up minutes ain't

0:51:46.640 --> 0:51:48.719
<v Speaker 1>going the road. They hadn't got to that point. Shit,

0:51:49.080 --> 0:51:50.839
<v Speaker 1>it was still a lot. Jay Rock was hard as

0:51:50.840 --> 0:51:53.919
<v Speaker 1>a motherfucker. Jay Rock was tight. Jay Rock, he was tight.

0:51:54.560 --> 0:51:56.959
<v Speaker 1>Every last one of them dudes over at td ether

0:51:57.080 --> 0:51:59.680
<v Speaker 1>rap can rap all of them dudes.

0:51:59.719 --> 0:52:02.760
<v Speaker 2>Can school Boy C make pop music?

0:52:02.800 --> 0:52:05.239
<v Speaker 1>Now that's because he's a professional recording or that's a

0:52:05.320 --> 0:52:09.120
<v Speaker 1>laying he in, but he can rap. Ab Sol Lo

0:52:09.400 --> 0:52:13.200
<v Speaker 1>My god, I knew I'd get murdered if I say it,

0:52:13.200 --> 0:52:16.160
<v Speaker 1>but ab Sol might be the coldest motherfucker over there.

0:52:17.840 --> 0:52:20.560
<v Speaker 1>They got dudes, they can really rap. You feel what

0:52:20.560 --> 0:52:23.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. I'm talking about and it's not easy to

0:52:23.239 --> 0:52:25.480
<v Speaker 1>impress me. Hey, you gotta remember the era we came

0:52:25.560 --> 0:52:33.000
<v Speaker 1>up in. I came up on you, scarface nas. All

0:52:33.040 --> 0:52:35.680
<v Speaker 1>of these just grade them seas Big Daddy Kane, Chuck

0:52:35.760 --> 0:52:38.040
<v Speaker 1>d people that were one of the ones. We wasn't

0:52:38.040 --> 0:52:40.239
<v Speaker 1>nobody to sounded like them before. They just came out

0:52:40.280 --> 0:52:42.560
<v Speaker 1>that they were the first of they kind.

0:52:42.600 --> 0:52:43.319
<v Speaker 2>You feel what I mean.

0:52:43.680 --> 0:52:47.359
<v Speaker 1>So I've heard some incredible motherfuckers cool she rap. It's

0:52:47.400 --> 0:52:49.960
<v Speaker 1>some motherfuckers that could spit Ray Kwan, the chef you know,

0:52:50.320 --> 0:52:53.080
<v Speaker 1>on to the day to the Homi Black thought, there's

0:52:53.120 --> 0:52:55.160
<v Speaker 1>some guys that can rap them. Dudes can really rap

0:52:55.200 --> 0:52:58.160
<v Speaker 1>over there, And I really think they got to the

0:52:58.200 --> 0:53:00.200
<v Speaker 1>place to where they had been getting slept on. Was

0:53:00.200 --> 0:53:02.719
<v Speaker 1>so bad. Wasn't nothing going right for me. But this

0:53:02.880 --> 0:53:08.640
<v Speaker 1>motherfucker said, we just gonna make undeniable records. Top used

0:53:08.640 --> 0:53:11.640
<v Speaker 1>to be on them dudes' ass, man, I know it wasn't.

0:53:11.680 --> 0:53:13.280
<v Speaker 1>He didn't allow them to play no games.

0:53:13.360 --> 0:53:14.600
<v Speaker 2>I just talked to talk about that.

0:53:14.920 --> 0:53:16.960
<v Speaker 1>He didn't allow them to play no games. Dog, And

0:53:17.760 --> 0:53:19.920
<v Speaker 1>I saw the homie lose a lot of money on

0:53:20.000 --> 0:53:22.799
<v Speaker 1>fake tours. You know, when you're trying to when you're

0:53:22.800 --> 0:53:25.799
<v Speaker 1>trying to get something going, you're gonna do whatever you

0:53:25.880 --> 0:53:28.120
<v Speaker 1>got to, right, And I saw that that he was

0:53:28.160 --> 0:53:30.680
<v Speaker 1>with and I think Top was to the point one

0:53:30.760 --> 0:53:32.960
<v Speaker 1>night man to where I think he was at that

0:53:33.000 --> 0:53:35.200
<v Speaker 1>point where he was like, I'm tired of motherfucker's playing

0:53:35.239 --> 0:53:37.839
<v Speaker 1>with me. But they did it though, Dog, That's why.

0:53:38.040 --> 0:53:40.560
<v Speaker 1>So that's why I salute them, because I know what

0:53:40.600 --> 0:53:43.879
<v Speaker 1>they went through. All of them dudes thugged it out, dog,

0:53:43.920 --> 0:53:45.200
<v Speaker 1>and they stayed down with each other.

0:53:47.239 --> 0:53:50.040
<v Speaker 2>No, I agree with you. I know hell of stories,

0:53:50.080 --> 0:53:54.120
<v Speaker 2>but I think that if so. I remember glads To

0:53:54.160 --> 0:53:57.120
<v Speaker 2>said something to me one day we was driving and

0:53:57.200 --> 0:54:00.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, like, you know how when you go y'all,

0:54:00.040 --> 0:54:01.799
<v Speaker 2>I would notice. But you know how when you on

0:54:01.840 --> 0:54:03.759
<v Speaker 2>your way to the west Side from the east Side,

0:54:03.760 --> 0:54:06.160
<v Speaker 2>you on the one on one, one O five and

0:54:06.160 --> 0:54:08.080
<v Speaker 2>you're about to get that go on that overpass where

0:54:08.080 --> 0:54:10.480
<v Speaker 2>they film speed at going to the one ten or

0:54:10.920 --> 0:54:13.239
<v Speaker 2>you know that big overpass, see the whole east side

0:54:13.280 --> 0:54:16.600
<v Speaker 2>right there off Broadway. So we's on that overpass and

0:54:16.680 --> 0:54:18.600
<v Speaker 2>we're going over there, and that was when that light

0:54:18.719 --> 0:54:20.359
<v Speaker 2>was on right there, so we stopped at the light

0:54:20.840 --> 0:54:24.640
<v Speaker 2>and he was like, listen ahead, caush. He's like, if

0:54:24.680 --> 0:54:27.600
<v Speaker 2>you want something that's gonna change your life forever, why

0:54:27.600 --> 0:54:30.880
<v Speaker 2>would it take anything less than a lifetime to get it?

0:54:30.960 --> 0:54:34.000
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, damn, that's that's set with me.

0:54:34.080 --> 0:54:35.319
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying. I've been thinking about that

0:54:35.360 --> 0:54:38.800
<v Speaker 2>ship was twelve years now. He told me that twelve

0:54:38.880 --> 0:54:41.120
<v Speaker 2>years ago. But I remember where I was. I was

0:54:41.120 --> 0:54:43.200
<v Speaker 2>sitting in the passenger seat of the Bendley and I

0:54:43.280 --> 0:54:45.719
<v Speaker 2>remember that. Like but I was like, Okay, so this

0:54:45.800 --> 0:54:47.640
<v Speaker 2>is gonna this is a long play. This ain't a

0:54:47.680 --> 0:54:49.640
<v Speaker 2>quick flip to go back to your point in what

0:54:49.719 --> 0:54:52.440
<v Speaker 2>you said earlier. I think everybody coming up now, they're

0:54:52.440 --> 0:54:54.359
<v Speaker 2>looking at it like a quick flip, like this a lit,

0:54:54.640 --> 0:54:57.160
<v Speaker 2>like hip hop is to me, is not a lit,

0:54:57.680 --> 0:55:00.239
<v Speaker 2>not at all. Rap music the music industry. It's not

0:55:00.280 --> 0:55:03.279
<v Speaker 2>a lick. It's not a quick flip. Like so I

0:55:03.400 --> 0:55:07.480
<v Speaker 2>take it personal sometimes when even when I shouldn't, when

0:55:07.480 --> 0:55:08.399
<v Speaker 2>people play with it.

0:55:08.320 --> 0:55:09.919
<v Speaker 4>Like that, oh definitely does.

0:55:10.000 --> 0:55:12.600
<v Speaker 2>Hip hop saved a lot of our lives. Hip Hop

0:55:12.640 --> 0:55:15.319
<v Speaker 2>and changed a lot of our families, and like, you know,

0:55:15.480 --> 0:55:18.080
<v Speaker 2>just different things like that where when people play with it.

0:55:18.120 --> 0:55:20.839
<v Speaker 1>I feel like you're not respecting it. I'm gonna say

0:55:20.840 --> 0:55:23.799
<v Speaker 1>some head. It was a time a long time ago, dog.

0:55:24.440 --> 0:55:26.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you remember this. I just lost

0:55:26.320 --> 0:55:28.359
<v Speaker 1>my I lost, but I had been lost my job

0:55:28.400 --> 0:55:30.640
<v Speaker 1>of mind of music, and I was refusing to go

0:55:30.680 --> 0:55:31.879
<v Speaker 1>get my assma the job.

0:55:32.000 --> 0:55:32.200
<v Speaker 2>Dog.

0:55:32.239 --> 0:55:35.280
<v Speaker 1>I got used to having that cush music industry job. Yeah,

0:55:35.320 --> 0:55:37.360
<v Speaker 1>and I was broke then. The motherfucker remember me and

0:55:37.440 --> 0:55:40.000
<v Speaker 1>you was standing on the corner about Lake will Boulevard, dog,

0:55:40.040 --> 0:55:42.280
<v Speaker 1>trying to piece up to go get some fucking cheeseburgers,

0:55:43.120 --> 0:55:45.040
<v Speaker 1>A real fucking story, and I look at his dog.

0:55:45.440 --> 0:55:48.640
<v Speaker 1>Ain't nothing in this motherfucker no overnight. I do remember that.

0:55:48.800 --> 0:55:51.879
<v Speaker 2>Ain't. Don't nothing happen overnight, man. And I definitely think

0:55:51.920 --> 0:55:53.439
<v Speaker 2>that we split the chili cheese frog.

0:55:53.800 --> 0:55:58.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I definitely think in today's era, man, people don't

0:55:58.480 --> 0:56:00.799
<v Speaker 1>want to grind for shit. But I want to get

0:56:00.800 --> 0:56:02.239
<v Speaker 1>back to this rap shit a little bit.

0:56:02.280 --> 0:56:02.560
<v Speaker 2>Dog.

0:56:03.400 --> 0:56:07.200
<v Speaker 1>This is one thing I will say. I believe Kendrick

0:56:07.480 --> 0:56:08.919
<v Speaker 1>were all way out, but I'm gonna leave it alone.

0:56:08.920 --> 0:56:11.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go to something. But I didn't think that

0:56:11.280 --> 0:56:14.840
<v Speaker 1>was necessarily no battle in the specific sense you know what.

0:56:14.880 --> 0:56:16.520
<v Speaker 1>I went back and listened to just to make sure

0:56:16.520 --> 0:56:22.080
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't tripping. I went back and listened to What's

0:56:22.160 --> 0:56:26.759
<v Speaker 1>Old what's the motherfucker's name? Kars One? When he was

0:56:26.840 --> 0:56:27.960
<v Speaker 1>dis and meally mailed and.

0:56:27.880 --> 0:56:30.399
<v Speaker 2>All of them.

0:56:30.440 --> 0:56:32.960
<v Speaker 4>It was just straight rap. You feel what I'm saying.

0:56:33.000 --> 0:56:33.719
<v Speaker 2>It was just rap.

0:56:34.360 --> 0:56:37.440
<v Speaker 1>It's like, now, man, you gotta get so personal with it.

0:56:37.480 --> 0:56:39.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I necessarily like the whole this

0:56:39.600 --> 0:56:42.360
<v Speaker 1>and shit, dog, because you just got to get too personal.

0:56:42.480 --> 0:56:42.640
<v Speaker 2>Now.

0:56:43.680 --> 0:56:46.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm talking to both of y'all, but it just

0:56:46.280 --> 0:56:48.319
<v Speaker 1>got and I think that that ship was a part

0:56:48.360 --> 0:56:51.560
<v Speaker 1>of it. Dog, I think the whole thing motherfucker's teaming

0:56:51.640 --> 0:56:53.600
<v Speaker 1>up to write some shit about a nigga. You feel

0:56:53.600 --> 0:56:56.480
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. It's like, like, what is this ship becoming?

0:56:56.560 --> 0:56:59.680
<v Speaker 1>I think all that shit started back back during over times.

0:57:00.760 --> 0:57:04.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna I'm gonna let him so what I think.

0:57:04.760 --> 0:57:07.160
<v Speaker 2>I just talked shop to my dude, Wayno. I was

0:57:07.200 --> 0:57:09.560
<v Speaker 2>talking to Wayno and he called me. He called me

0:57:09.800 --> 0:57:11.640
<v Speaker 2>when everything was going down and I was in the middle.

0:57:11.680 --> 0:57:14.799
<v Speaker 2>He's like, hey, you know what ahead He's like, I

0:57:14.920 --> 0:57:18.400
<v Speaker 2>just realized something. As I'm getting older, I'm no longer

0:57:18.520 --> 0:57:20.600
<v Speaker 2>arguing with niggas who ain't never been punched in their mouth.

0:57:21.680 --> 0:57:24.200
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, that made perfect sense to me

0:57:24.360 --> 0:57:27.720
<v Speaker 2>because like, I've been punched in my mouth. So but

0:57:28.200 --> 0:57:30.320
<v Speaker 2>it's a different type of it's a different when you

0:57:30.440 --> 0:57:34.200
<v Speaker 2>move different when you've been confronted about something you have said.

0:57:35.320 --> 0:57:38.000
<v Speaker 2>Just like just like when you you say something and

0:57:38.040 --> 0:57:40.439
<v Speaker 2>I think to what you just said, Like, I think

0:57:40.480 --> 0:57:43.040
<v Speaker 2>that's the point. A lot of people ain't never had

0:57:43.040 --> 0:57:46.160
<v Speaker 2>to deal with the ship that they say, Like, if

0:57:46.200 --> 0:57:49.400
<v Speaker 2>somebody diss your hood, they gotta deal with that either

0:57:49.440 --> 0:57:53.320
<v Speaker 2>they running to you, they running homies, or they might

0:57:53.560 --> 0:57:56.440
<v Speaker 2>or they might violate to the point where they own homies. Like, man,

0:57:56.440 --> 0:57:58.080
<v Speaker 2>you're talking to eight like them and come to the hood.

0:57:59.240 --> 0:58:00.640
<v Speaker 4>Exactly what I'm saying.

0:58:01.000 --> 0:58:03.120
<v Speaker 2>A lot of people don't have don't don't have to

0:58:03.160 --> 0:58:09.320
<v Speaker 2>deal with that. You you specifically you g like all

0:58:09.360 --> 0:58:11.640
<v Speaker 2>these different people who I know if I tweet some

0:58:11.760 --> 0:58:14.919
<v Speaker 2>wild ship and I just tweeted I posted on my Instagram,

0:58:15.080 --> 0:58:18.200
<v Speaker 2>either you gonna call me, g gonna call somebody, gonna

0:58:18.200 --> 0:58:21.800
<v Speaker 2>call my phone like you, That's what the difference is

0:58:21.880 --> 0:58:23.640
<v Speaker 2>is checks and balances to this ship. And I don't

0:58:23.680 --> 0:58:25.600
<v Speaker 2>think that that exists no more, which is why you

0:58:25.600 --> 0:58:28.120
<v Speaker 2>could just say whatever you want to say about somebody.

0:58:28.200 --> 0:58:31.200
<v Speaker 2>And because you ain't got to see him. I'm in

0:58:31.360 --> 0:58:33.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm in New Jersey, in a house, in a random

0:58:33.840 --> 0:58:36.080
<v Speaker 2>house in New Jersey, and I go on the internet, man,

0:58:36.720 --> 0:58:39.000
<v Speaker 2>man eight is this and that, and he, you know,

0:58:39.080 --> 0:58:41.880
<v Speaker 2>just disrespecting you. And now you ain't never gonna see

0:58:41.880 --> 0:58:43.720
<v Speaker 2>me because I ain't never go out. I don't go outside,

0:58:44.200 --> 0:58:45.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't go to the I don't go to the functions,

0:58:45.960 --> 0:58:48.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't go to no podcast stuff. So you ain't

0:58:48.320 --> 0:58:49.920
<v Speaker 2>You ain't gotta deal with that, so you can say

0:58:49.920 --> 0:58:50.760
<v Speaker 2>whatever you want to say.

0:58:51.280 --> 0:58:54.360
<v Speaker 4>Mm hmmm, Yeah, that's a lot of that goes on.

0:58:54.520 --> 0:58:58.080
<v Speaker 3>Now you got you got, you got interstate this, and

0:58:58.280 --> 0:59:01.600
<v Speaker 3>right now interste Beef and niggas ain't never seen each

0:59:01.600 --> 0:59:05.280
<v Speaker 3>other before. Just get on the fucking fuck that nigga. Man,

0:59:05.320 --> 0:59:07.400
<v Speaker 3>my shit is more harder than them and we are,

0:59:07.680 --> 0:59:10.160
<v Speaker 3>so we just gonna start dissing the nigga and whatever

0:59:11.040 --> 0:59:13.760
<v Speaker 3>it's become out of the context of.

0:59:15.320 --> 0:59:15.640
<v Speaker 4>Nigga.

0:59:15.680 --> 0:59:19.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm dissing you because my lyrical skills.

0:59:18.840 --> 0:59:21.360
<v Speaker 4>Are superior, top notch.

0:59:21.560 --> 0:59:23.840
<v Speaker 2>You give me I ain't disrespecting.

0:59:24.040 --> 0:59:28.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm not dissing you because you from New Jersey or

0:59:28.560 --> 0:59:32.920
<v Speaker 3>South Carolina. I ain't dissing you because you said, nigga,

0:59:32.960 --> 0:59:37.280
<v Speaker 3>you you you took five fifteen shots out of nigger y'all.

0:59:37.400 --> 0:59:40.840
<v Speaker 3>That that's the I'm dissing you because my lyrics are hard. Nigga,

0:59:40.960 --> 0:59:45.240
<v Speaker 3>I'm the hard. Yeah, yeah, that that's not it.

0:59:45.280 --> 0:59:47.320
<v Speaker 1>I heard about the money these niggas was spending on

0:59:47.360 --> 0:59:48.560
<v Speaker 1>that ship to get information.

0:59:48.680 --> 0:59:53.200
<v Speaker 2>Dog, Well yeah, it's crazy. You might for run to

0:59:53.240 --> 0:59:54.920
<v Speaker 2>spend a couple hundred thousand ricks.

0:59:54.680 --> 0:59:58.640
<v Speaker 3>Brax, it's become a become a criminal investigation.

0:59:58.800 --> 1:00:00.080
<v Speaker 4>You might well be on try.

1:00:00.360 --> 1:00:01.800
<v Speaker 3>I need to go to hire me a couple of

1:00:01.840 --> 1:00:05.560
<v Speaker 3>motherfucking investigators and have a nigga jump on the plane.

1:00:05.880 --> 1:00:07.840
<v Speaker 4>I need to know what I need to know.

1:00:07.880 --> 1:00:11.480
<v Speaker 3>If a nigga shitted his pants in the third grade,

1:00:12.320 --> 1:00:20.240
<v Speaker 3>it's so cool, like what I I need the dog,

1:00:20.240 --> 1:00:23.000
<v Speaker 3>if a nigga was pissing in the bed when he

1:00:23.160 --> 1:00:25.320
<v Speaker 3>was seven years old, and some ship.

1:00:25.120 --> 1:00:27.680
<v Speaker 2>Like that, so I would go, I would go fire.

1:00:27.440 --> 1:00:31.680
<v Speaker 3>The long distance hater cousin that the nigga old fuck with.

1:00:31.880 --> 1:00:34.560
<v Speaker 3>Now pay that nigga a couple of grand What that

1:00:34.640 --> 1:00:37.160
<v Speaker 3>nigga do used to do when he was five. He

1:00:38.040 --> 1:00:40.520
<v Speaker 3>used to take boggers out his nose and put a bit.

1:00:41.000 --> 1:00:41.960
<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't go at all.

1:00:42.400 --> 1:00:45.280
<v Speaker 3>It's it's criminal investigations now motherfuckers.

1:00:45.760 --> 1:00:48.720
<v Speaker 2>Motherfuckers is being really facetious with shit too. Man.

1:00:49.080 --> 1:00:51.200
<v Speaker 1>When I heard him say that Dave Free was the man,

1:00:52.080 --> 1:00:54.800
<v Speaker 1>I said, Man, this niggas just reached. But that was

1:00:54.840 --> 1:00:56.720
<v Speaker 1>a reach. But it was a line that was more

1:00:56.720 --> 1:00:58.040
<v Speaker 1>than real. Was a motherfucker line.

1:00:58.120 --> 1:00:59.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it's it's him.

1:00:59.360 --> 1:01:01.440
<v Speaker 3>He don't have no But I see, I seen a

1:01:01.520 --> 1:01:05.000
<v Speaker 3>nigga say today and it was a It was a

1:01:05.080 --> 1:01:06.040
<v Speaker 3>hip hop dude.

1:01:06.480 --> 1:01:08.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I read it today or who

1:01:08.720 --> 1:01:09.200
<v Speaker 2>was that thing?

1:01:09.320 --> 1:01:11.120
<v Speaker 4>Was it?

1:01:11.160 --> 1:01:16.040
<v Speaker 3>When he said the dissing or something is just taking

1:01:16.080 --> 1:01:18.760
<v Speaker 3>me out of it because now it's it's more about

1:01:19.320 --> 1:01:23.280
<v Speaker 3>That was quess love quis love quis yeo exactly? It

1:01:23.320 --> 1:01:28.840
<v Speaker 3>was Big Daddy. Big Daddy said, it's like motherfuckers want

1:01:28.880 --> 1:01:31.560
<v Speaker 3>to know if your facts are true or they want

1:01:31.560 --> 1:01:34.360
<v Speaker 3>to very He said, Nigga, when I was dissing niggas

1:01:34.360 --> 1:01:38.160
<v Speaker 3>back in my days coming up, I lied and said ship, nigga,

1:01:38.160 --> 1:01:41.480
<v Speaker 3>I fucked your mama in the back seat of my Cadillac. Nigga,

1:01:41.520 --> 1:01:44.200
<v Speaker 3>won't he wom I ain't never seen a nigga mama in.

1:01:44.200 --> 1:01:46.960
<v Speaker 2>My life, even though even when jay Z said, you know,

1:01:47.080 --> 1:01:49.280
<v Speaker 2>condoms in the baby seat, I'm sure there was no

1:01:49.360 --> 1:01:53.680
<v Speaker 2>condoms in the baby seat, right, no baby mama. I'm

1:01:53.720 --> 1:01:56.720
<v Speaker 2>gonna I'm gonna exaggerate a little bit. I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 2>but that's part of.

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<v Speaker 4>It because basically.

1:02:01.040 --> 1:02:03.600
<v Speaker 3>That's the same thing like when we used to bag

1:02:03.680 --> 1:02:07.280
<v Speaker 3>against each other. You get me with the bagger, your

1:02:07.320 --> 1:02:09.720
<v Speaker 3>mom so fat, nigga, I slapped your mom on the ale,

1:02:09.920 --> 1:02:12.760
<v Speaker 3>or your mom's fed me dinner after I came through

1:02:12.840 --> 1:02:13.480
<v Speaker 3>last night.

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<v Speaker 2>You give me.

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<v Speaker 4>We all did that shit.

1:02:17.280 --> 1:02:19.960
<v Speaker 3>It was just it was just we were just bagging

1:02:20.080 --> 1:02:21.400
<v Speaker 3>comic through on each other.

1:02:21.760 --> 1:02:23.840
<v Speaker 2>Nobody took that serious at the end of the day.

1:02:23.840 --> 1:02:26.040
<v Speaker 3>Well, it might have been one nigga who couldn't handle

1:02:26.080 --> 1:02:27.920
<v Speaker 3>it and then you end up scrapping.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what, though, Bro, I'm kind of with

1:02:30.440 --> 1:02:32.120
<v Speaker 1>and this sound because I love the bat, you know,

1:02:32.160 --> 1:02:35.640
<v Speaker 1>I like that messy shit, right, But I think I'm

1:02:35.720 --> 1:02:38.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of with questlove and Big Daddy came and all

1:02:38.320 --> 1:02:40.800
<v Speaker 1>of them shit can go to a point to where

1:02:40.840 --> 1:02:45.600
<v Speaker 1>it goes too far. Because I got thick skin. I

1:02:45.600 --> 1:02:47.560
<v Speaker 1>could take any motherfucker talking about me because I don't

1:02:47.560 --> 1:02:50.080
<v Speaker 1>give a fuck you feel what I'm saying. But when

1:02:50.080 --> 1:02:54.600
<v Speaker 1>you start involving my mama, my wife, my kids, some

1:02:54.840 --> 1:02:55.680
<v Speaker 1>probably can happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Dog some probably that off limits though? Is it off limits? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Here's the thing right to your point. It depends on

1:03:02.720 --> 1:03:05.440
<v Speaker 2>if you It depends on your enemy, bro, It depends

1:03:05.440 --> 1:03:07.400
<v Speaker 2>on who you serve. It depends on who you battling.

1:03:07.640 --> 1:03:09.040
<v Speaker 2>If you go and I don't want to make this

1:03:09.080 --> 1:03:11.560
<v Speaker 2>hell dramatic, but if you look at somebody like if

1:03:11.560 --> 1:03:13.680
<v Speaker 2>you look at World War two, how do you fight

1:03:13.720 --> 1:03:16.480
<v Speaker 2>a Kamakze pilot? You shoot him down? It's a comic

1:03:16.520 --> 1:03:20.400
<v Speaker 2>coze pilot. His whole game plan is to fly his

1:03:20.520 --> 1:03:23.040
<v Speaker 2>plane into your into your ship. How do you fight

1:03:23.040 --> 1:03:25.480
<v Speaker 2>a nigga like that? Right? If you fighting, if you're

1:03:25.480 --> 1:03:28.120
<v Speaker 2>fighting a crash dummy, how do you fight? How do

1:03:28.120 --> 1:03:30.920
<v Speaker 2>you fight a dude? Are they't afraid to die? You

1:03:30.960 --> 1:03:32.600
<v Speaker 2>know what? We're gonna have to piece this up because

1:03:32.720 --> 1:03:36.360
<v Speaker 2>ain't no no point in us doing this because I

1:03:36.400 --> 1:03:40.959
<v Speaker 2>got I got you to do tomorrow. Like, just because

1:03:40.960 --> 1:03:42.720
<v Speaker 2>you ain't afraid to die, don't I got shit I

1:03:42.760 --> 1:03:45.200
<v Speaker 2>gotta do tomorrow, you know what I mean. So when

1:03:45.240 --> 1:03:48.360
<v Speaker 2>you when you're looking at the battle situation, it can

1:03:48.400 --> 1:03:51.320
<v Speaker 2>go too far. But it depends on who you're battling,

1:03:51.360 --> 1:03:54.720
<v Speaker 2>because just because you got limits don't mean I got limits. Yeah,

1:03:54.720 --> 1:03:59.480
<v Speaker 2>what dude, definitely stir first, but you can't first if

1:03:59.680 --> 1:04:02.160
<v Speaker 2>if you get into a hip hop into a rap

1:04:02.240 --> 1:04:06.080
<v Speaker 2>beef right and eighties like it's all everything goes no

1:04:06.160 --> 1:04:09.520
<v Speaker 2>hose barred falls count anywhere. He on that type of time,

1:04:09.760 --> 1:04:12.160
<v Speaker 2>you like, look, we're gonna battle, but just don't mention

1:04:12.240 --> 1:04:14.520
<v Speaker 2>my wife, my kids, my mom, and my grandma. You

1:04:14.520 --> 1:04:18.240
<v Speaker 2>give him a whole syllabus on what he can't talk about, bro,

1:04:18.600 --> 1:04:20.760
<v Speaker 2>and he just man, fuck that he teared up in

1:04:20.800 --> 1:04:24.040
<v Speaker 2>the video. Fucked the syllabus. Fuck you your mama.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, that's what.

1:04:24.880 --> 1:04:27.560
<v Speaker 3>It's the same situation, Like I said, with the beef

1:04:27.640 --> 1:04:33.480
<v Speaker 3>I had with me and with me and Homie, that's

1:04:33.480 --> 1:04:36.880
<v Speaker 3>a fact. It's the same. And then we didn't even

1:04:36.920 --> 1:04:40.280
<v Speaker 3>go there. You get me quick. Didn't say your mama.

1:04:40.480 --> 1:04:43.160
<v Speaker 3>I didn't say your mama or your family or your kids,

1:04:43.200 --> 1:04:45.080
<v Speaker 3>and nothing we didn't even go that route.

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<v Speaker 4>We kept it on fuck you, fuck you.

1:04:48.280 --> 1:04:53.240
<v Speaker 3>Our ship came behind the affiliations with the gang ship.

1:04:53.920 --> 1:04:58.160
<v Speaker 3>That's what made our ship so fired up because it

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<v Speaker 3>could have stayed on some nigga fuck you, fuck you,

1:05:01.640 --> 1:05:05.080
<v Speaker 3>fuck you fuck you because we didn't even like you said,

1:05:05.720 --> 1:05:09.000
<v Speaker 3>we didn't do this. We didn't do no crossing of paths,

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<v Speaker 3>you get me, So it could have stayed on the

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<v Speaker 3>fuck you fuck you rap suit until one day it'd

1:05:16.520 --> 1:05:19.000
<v Speaker 3>have been like, yeah, I'm cool, I'm cool. But for

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that outside of us, you got correct niggas

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<v Speaker 3>over here and blood niggas over here.

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<v Speaker 2>And then.

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<v Speaker 3>I think what really happened, how it really got heated,

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<v Speaker 3>was when the calling of the sets came into it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what took it to the next level. Because I

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<v Speaker 3>tried to keep it because I was true hip hop nigga,

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<v Speaker 3>even though I'm trying to gang bang and shit, I

1:05:53.160 --> 1:05:58.000
<v Speaker 3>had real hip hop respect for hip hop. Thus I

1:05:58.120 --> 1:06:01.920
<v Speaker 3>knew that dissing came aim to play in hip hop.

1:06:02.560 --> 1:06:06.200
<v Speaker 3>I saw fucking Big Daddy Kane and whatever I saw

1:06:06.480 --> 1:06:10.520
<v Speaker 3>LL and koom O D. I saw motherfucking k r

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<v Speaker 3>S and mc shan and you know, I saw the distance.

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<v Speaker 3>But my thing was when I ain't gonna talk about

1:06:19.720 --> 1:06:23.680
<v Speaker 3>a nigga mama or his kids, or his family or

1:06:23.800 --> 1:06:27.040
<v Speaker 3>the set, I'm just gonna keep it on nigga, mean

1:06:27.200 --> 1:06:32.680
<v Speaker 3>you on some rap shit, but then you get me.

1:06:33.160 --> 1:06:34.560
<v Speaker 4>It came to play.

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<v Speaker 3>With that situation because then trag New Park was mentioned.

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<v Speaker 3>So now it's taking it out of the element of

1:06:43.600 --> 1:06:47.200
<v Speaker 3>back and forth dissing each other, and now it's beefing

1:06:47.360 --> 1:06:53.360
<v Speaker 3>now because now niggas are niggas are like, what the fuck?

1:06:53.480 --> 1:06:56.760
<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying that the affiliation was tagged

1:06:56.800 --> 1:07:00.000
<v Speaker 3>on to it. So like you said, I can't control

1:07:00.040 --> 1:07:04.760
<v Speaker 3>old niggas. You give me I'm at home. I mean

1:07:04.800 --> 1:07:07.640
<v Speaker 3>he spoke about it on a song. Niggas was at

1:07:07.640 --> 1:07:10.280
<v Speaker 3>the club with them. I wasn't nowhere near around. I'm

1:07:10.280 --> 1:07:15.120
<v Speaker 3>one hundred miles away. But now other niggas are implementing

1:07:15.160 --> 1:07:19.200
<v Speaker 3>themselves into it because oh, you spoke on us.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, if that ship between you and.

1:07:21.840 --> 1:07:25.479
<v Speaker 3>Eight, that's y'all, But now you're on us, So now

1:07:25.600 --> 1:07:29.400
<v Speaker 3>we feel like we have to step in and represent

1:07:30.120 --> 1:07:34.240
<v Speaker 3>you get me. So that's the differences of it. That's

1:07:34.280 --> 1:07:36.920
<v Speaker 3>what came to play and all because I never thought

1:07:36.920 --> 1:07:41.040
<v Speaker 3>of going, Hmmm, I'm gonna rap about this nigga baby

1:07:41.080 --> 1:07:43.919
<v Speaker 3>mama and his kid, or I'm gonna say something about

1:07:43.960 --> 1:07:47.160
<v Speaker 3>his motherfucking mama or some shit like that. I've never

1:07:47.280 --> 1:07:51.000
<v Speaker 3>once thought of doing some shit like that. I wanted

1:07:51.000 --> 1:07:53.360
<v Speaker 3>to keep it hip hop, even though it was on

1:07:53.400 --> 1:07:54.040
<v Speaker 3>some gangs.

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<v Speaker 1>Shit, I think if you did a shit back like

1:07:56.920 --> 1:07:59.080
<v Speaker 1>that back then, I think motherfuckers might have died.

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<v Speaker 2>Though.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you you, like I said, we used to bag,

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<v Speaker 3>but we knew we was doing friendly bantering, playing with

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<v Speaker 3>each other, and nigga, you could bag against a nigga

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<v Speaker 3>you didn't even know.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's on the aspect of like at.

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<v Speaker 3>A rap battle, we gonna battle, battle, battle, and then

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<v Speaker 3>at the end of the battle, all right, my nigga

1:08:22.760 --> 1:08:26.840
<v Speaker 3>whatever whatever. That's just like if you bagging against somebody nigga,

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<v Speaker 3>your mama this or your mama that, niggas know it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>But even with bagging, you always get somebody to take off.

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<v Speaker 1>You already get that one dude to get mad and

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<v Speaker 1>take off.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's why I said, you have to know who

1:08:37.560 --> 1:08:40.839
<v Speaker 2>you You gotta know you exactly got know you bagging

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<v Speaker 2>against you gonna get That's what I was trying to

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<v Speaker 2>explain to Elliott Wilson. Everybody ain't playing about this. You're

1:08:46.880 --> 1:08:49.200
<v Speaker 2>not playing about your wife, your kids or whatever. His

1:08:49.280 --> 1:08:52.800
<v Speaker 2>homies ain't playing about the hood. Everybody not playing about

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<v Speaker 2>certain things. So you have to know who you dealing

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<v Speaker 2>with before.

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<v Speaker 3>You start, got it. You gotta keep it in that.

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<v Speaker 3>You gotta keep it to sparring and don't let it

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<v Speaker 3>turn into an actual boxing match. You get me, keep

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<v Speaker 3>it on spark, hey man, you know telling it to

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<v Speaker 3>hold up? Hold up, We ain't gonna go there. You

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<v Speaker 3>get me. But once, like I said, once you start

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<v Speaker 3>going to personal shit depending on who you dealing with.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even want to play with you no more.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Fight or now it's gonna go to somewhere else. Got

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<v Speaker 2>my mama, What the.

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<v Speaker 3>Fuck my mama got to do with the fucking even

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<v Speaker 3>when you look at the n W the fuck my

1:09:29.680 --> 1:09:32.240
<v Speaker 3>mama got to there with some hip hop songs and ship.

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<v Speaker 1>You remember when Easy and Trey and them was going

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<v Speaker 1>back and forth. You never heard the niggas say nothing

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<v Speaker 1>nobody's mama nigga.

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<v Speaker 3>You ain't seen your kid in ten in two years

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<v Speaker 3>and I heard you wasn't paying child support and ship

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<v Speaker 3>like they wasn't doing shit like that. Nigga was like, nigga,

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<v Speaker 3>fuck you. Okay, yeah, nigga, fuck you nigga. And then

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<v Speaker 3>niggas wasn't like I'm living in a girl heels or Nigga,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm over here and Calabasas Nigga, Nigga, I'm pulling up

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<v Speaker 3>in the in the eight fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>Nigga.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Nigga, I got the motherfucking Nigga was no, it

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<v Speaker 3>was just nigga. It was rap, fuck you, fuck you,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're gonna leave it at then.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we get up out of it. I gotta talk

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<v Speaker 1>about this, right. I know Height probably don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about this ship, but I got to. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Game took off on Ross.

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<v Speaker 2>Right oh, with the he put he put the record

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<v Speaker 2>out there.

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<v Speaker 1>He put the record out Ross didn't even respond back

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<v Speaker 1>to him. I told Glass, I said, Ross not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>respond back to him. I don't think he is either.

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<v Speaker 1>Why should he Why shouldn't.

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<v Speaker 3>You think he's not gonna respond because he don't want

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<v Speaker 3>no street beef no? Or do you think he just

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<v Speaker 3>feel like he's too superior to respond, I think he

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<v Speaker 3>feels like he's above that.

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<v Speaker 2>He above that because you think about it, and he

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<v Speaker 2>was just going at Drake. So why did all this

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<v Speaker 2>shit happen? Why did all of it? They were all

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<v Speaker 2>they had the whole little.

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<v Speaker 3>Click though, Oh, Ross, Drake, Game, Ross, Lil Wayne. They

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<v Speaker 3>were all getting on each other's records break even with

1:11:08.200 --> 1:11:11.680
<v Speaker 3>Drake and and Ross and Drake and Future. They just

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<v Speaker 3>get They just did a big record together, Drake in

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<v Speaker 3>Future with the with the with the African girls sing.

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<v Speaker 2>But what I've heard, I mean, I can't speak on

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<v Speaker 2>these men. I don't know all. The only person I

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<v Speaker 2>know personally is Game, and I know I know Ross too,

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<v Speaker 2>But everybody else I don't really know them.

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<v Speaker 3>Why Why do you think Game just jumped on Ross?

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<v Speaker 3>Can I tell you?

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<v Speaker 2>Game been trying to catch a catch a fade and

1:11:32.640 --> 1:11:35.080
<v Speaker 2>rapped for years though, even when he put out the

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<v Speaker 2>documentary and not the documentary, uh the recent most recent

1:11:39.160 --> 1:11:41.360
<v Speaker 2>album he just put out with Hippoy, he was he

1:11:41.479 --> 1:11:44.680
<v Speaker 2>was trying to rap against eminem The game Game is

1:11:44.720 --> 1:11:48.479
<v Speaker 2>a game is is Game is really like a really

1:11:48.520 --> 1:11:52.000
<v Speaker 2>dope MC and Game is definitely and he's crazy, so

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<v Speaker 2>he so he'd be looking for a sparing partner, like

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<v Speaker 2>I think he look at it just like he really

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<v Speaker 2>want to rap.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna tell you one thing, he definitely. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 4>tell you one thing I.

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<v Speaker 1>Do like about Game now is that he's not going

1:12:06.600 --> 1:12:09.080
<v Speaker 1>there talking about you. He's the throwback to.

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<v Speaker 2>What I like.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not gonna going in and talk about your mama,

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<v Speaker 1>your kids. He's gonna say you fed and tripped over

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<v Speaker 1>trying to chase it.

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<v Speaker 3>She's he gonna go my Nigga is a lyricist.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>He not gonna do no ship though I didn't understand it,

1:12:26.360 --> 1:12:29.080
<v Speaker 1>but this is what I said, and I told you this.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, Ross not gonna respond. But Ross is way

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<v Speaker 1>more capable of what motherfucker's given credit for us as

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<v Speaker 1>a hip hop head.

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<v Speaker 3>Why why would he just drake in that game? Why

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<v Speaker 3>he don't feel it's significant enough?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think that he just with everything going on

1:12:47.240 --> 1:12:49.720
<v Speaker 2>with with with Ka, he just he added on to

1:12:49.840 --> 1:12:52.240
<v Speaker 2>that like he was like, Oh, we're finally going at this, dude.

1:12:52.320 --> 1:12:55.040
<v Speaker 2>Let's go at this dude. Because I think they've always

1:12:55.080 --> 1:12:57.600
<v Speaker 2>had they little you know, stuff back and forth, and

1:12:57.680 --> 1:12:59.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't know these things personally, I've always I just

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<v Speaker 2>heard the stories about how you know, Drake get down

1:13:02.960 --> 1:13:05.120
<v Speaker 2>and how he'll double cross people what they like. He'll

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<v Speaker 2>high at you like he'll come and meet through a

1:13:07.120 --> 1:13:09.200
<v Speaker 2>nice to meet you, a legend O G, you know whatever,

1:13:09.439 --> 1:13:11.280
<v Speaker 2>and then you take a picture, Oh this is my wife,

1:13:11.280 --> 1:13:13.519
<v Speaker 2>and he take a picture, and then you know he'll

1:13:13.560 --> 1:13:15.400
<v Speaker 2>d M your wife type ship, Like that's the type

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<v Speaker 2>ship I've heard about him. I don't I can't verify.

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<v Speaker 4>That he's a playboy nigga.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if he slapped him or not. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying I've heard that that's how he get down,

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<v Speaker 2>that's how he moved.

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<v Speaker 1>Being politically correctcause you I don't know that well, I

1:13:32.040 --> 1:13:32.360
<v Speaker 1>don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>So why do you think Ross won't go back at Game.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think he. I don't think he looks at

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<v Speaker 2>it as not. He think he's scared of a street fight.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's a street fight. You know what, though,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think my nigga Game will will he will.

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<v Speaker 2>He will.

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<v Speaker 4>He will want to fade. Like you said, he will fight.

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<v Speaker 2>You and rap you. He'll do either or he cool cool.

1:13:53.800 --> 1:13:55.360
<v Speaker 2>Why do you think Game?

1:13:55.600 --> 1:14:00.160
<v Speaker 3>I mean Ross won't take that that that line that

1:14:00.320 --> 1:14:01.679
<v Speaker 3>game and tossed in the lake.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think he tripping like that.

1:14:03.680 --> 1:14:06.800
<v Speaker 1>But you gotta remember Ross went again fifty when fifty

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<v Speaker 1>was in his prime and survived just with sheer music.

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<v Speaker 3>What you call that a pick and choose battle, like

1:14:13.040 --> 1:14:15.559
<v Speaker 3>you know Nigga's pick and choose who they fight. I

1:14:15.680 --> 1:14:17.759
<v Speaker 3>fight this nigga, but I ain't gonna fight this nigga,

1:14:17.760 --> 1:14:18.080
<v Speaker 3>of course.

1:14:18.200 --> 1:14:19.960
<v Speaker 1>You know what I have found to be odd though,

1:14:22.000 --> 1:14:24.560
<v Speaker 1>And again I don't know they do it because I

1:14:24.600 --> 1:14:26.160
<v Speaker 1>don't want the mother for getting mad at making no

1:14:26.240 --> 1:14:30.200
<v Speaker 1>song about me shit, you know, But I just find

1:14:30.240 --> 1:14:36.280
<v Speaker 1>it odd man, that Games one of That's biggest supporters.

1:14:36.280 --> 1:14:38.360
<v Speaker 1>You know, that was on a lot of Games albums

1:14:38.360 --> 1:14:40.760
<v Speaker 1>early on. You know, the game was popping, you know

1:14:40.800 --> 1:14:44.559
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. I just found it odd that it's

1:14:44.600 --> 1:14:46.800
<v Speaker 1>like he went at one of Ross's that you know,

1:14:46.920 --> 1:14:49.600
<v Speaker 1>Drake's detractors. He didn't get in the middle of it.

1:14:49.640 --> 1:14:52.160
<v Speaker 1>Don't you think it was kind of weird he didn't.

1:14:52.160 --> 1:14:54.600
<v Speaker 1>He didn't get a mellow up that, you know, like

1:14:55.400 --> 1:14:58.559
<v Speaker 1>him going at Ross. What you mean, just out the

1:14:58.560 --> 1:15:00.360
<v Speaker 1>blue like for notugh of no reason.

1:15:00.520 --> 1:15:02.679
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I think it's just in the spirit of him.

1:15:02.840 --> 1:15:06.160
<v Speaker 2>He you gotta you gotta remember Game is an mc bro. Yeah,

1:15:06.200 --> 1:15:09.479
<v Speaker 2>he is for ship but White Ross though, because Ross

1:15:09.560 --> 1:15:12.640
<v Speaker 2>is a Rosses in the middle of that stuff. And

1:15:12.640 --> 1:15:14.680
<v Speaker 2>he's like, oh well this is over now tag me in.

1:15:14.800 --> 1:15:16.360
<v Speaker 2>Let's I want to get cracking with homie.

1:15:16.600 --> 1:15:19.640
<v Speaker 3>But like you said, a lot of people, just like

1:15:19.680 --> 1:15:22.160
<v Speaker 3>you said, he nigga. I'm looking for any nigga who

1:15:22.200 --> 1:15:24.400
<v Speaker 3>want to give him up or sparing with as far.

1:15:24.280 --> 1:15:26.599
<v Speaker 2>As he might rap. Bro, he willing to rap against

1:15:26.600 --> 1:15:29.639
<v Speaker 2>whoever he want to rap, fade with whoever. He don't

1:15:29.680 --> 1:15:32.360
<v Speaker 2>care who it is. He just want to rap fade

1:15:32.400 --> 1:15:34.760
<v Speaker 2>and that I really don't think it's personal. I think

1:15:35.360 --> 1:15:37.519
<v Speaker 2>he said it actually when he was when I seen

1:15:37.600 --> 1:15:39.240
<v Speaker 2>him on an interview, he actually said He's like, Bro,

1:15:39.680 --> 1:15:41.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm not trying to beat up beat up nobody. I

1:15:41.520 --> 1:15:44.160
<v Speaker 2>don't want to fight. I don't want nobody this rap.

1:15:44.560 --> 1:15:46.320
<v Speaker 2>He's like, I want to rap. I think he just

1:15:46.400 --> 1:15:48.960
<v Speaker 2>really want to. I ain't man that he just I

1:15:48.960 --> 1:15:50.759
<v Speaker 2>guess he just shot and shut then.

1:15:50.960 --> 1:15:53.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he just shut.

1:15:53.040 --> 1:15:53.080
<v Speaker 1>It.

1:15:53.200 --> 1:15:54.160
<v Speaker 2>Mean, like I said, is.

1:15:56.479 --> 1:16:00.200
<v Speaker 3>Unfortunately, you know, there's no rules in hip hop. I mean,

1:16:00.520 --> 1:16:04.760
<v Speaker 3>there's no there's no code to follow or whatever, like

1:16:05.120 --> 1:16:07.559
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's it's just, it is what it is.

1:16:08.200 --> 1:16:10.240
<v Speaker 4>You could do business with a nigga. That's just in

1:16:10.280 --> 1:16:11.200
<v Speaker 4>the regular world.

1:16:11.520 --> 1:16:14.040
<v Speaker 3>You do business with a nigga today and everything is

1:16:14.080 --> 1:16:16.800
<v Speaker 3>all good six months from now. You like nigga, I

1:16:16.800 --> 1:16:19.240
<v Speaker 3>don't never fuck with you again. You get me, It's real,

1:16:19.520 --> 1:16:23.320
<v Speaker 3>it's just business. You get me. What you think about

1:16:23.400 --> 1:16:26.559
<v Speaker 3>quest Love saying that the Tupacc hit him up.

1:16:27.360 --> 1:16:29.640
<v Speaker 2>He said it. You know, I saw, I saw a

1:16:29.720 --> 1:16:31.800
<v Speaker 2>quest said. I've seen I seen when he wrote and

1:16:31.800 --> 1:16:35.160
<v Speaker 2>then also watchington. I also watched the video what he

1:16:35.240 --> 1:16:38.720
<v Speaker 2>said to read to respond to what everybody was saying

1:16:38.720 --> 1:16:41.400
<v Speaker 2>to him. And I understand where he's coming from. But

1:16:41.560 --> 1:16:44.599
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that. I think it's a I think

1:16:44.600 --> 1:16:46.519
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of an archaic way to look at things.

1:16:46.600 --> 1:16:48.840
<v Speaker 2>And you have nuanced once you age. Y'all haven't been

1:16:48.840 --> 1:16:51.200
<v Speaker 2>through a lot of shit in this in hip hop.

1:16:51.360 --> 1:16:52.920
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying. You just talked about your

1:16:52.960 --> 1:16:55.880
<v Speaker 2>whole thing with that. That's that for us. I was legendary,

1:16:55.920 --> 1:16:58.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, I was a kid like I don't you

1:16:58.600 --> 1:17:00.599
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying, Like, that's what I'm say the stuff, yo,

1:17:00.760 --> 1:17:02.679
<v Speaker 2>the stuff you was saying, the stuff y'all was saying

1:17:02.680 --> 1:17:05.120
<v Speaker 2>on records that was real to us. We didn't even

1:17:05.240 --> 1:17:07.960
<v Speaker 2>know that. It was like you was embellishing or you

1:17:08.040 --> 1:17:11.080
<v Speaker 2>was exaggerating. We didn't know. Like I'm thinking, like, oh,

1:17:11.200 --> 1:17:14.439
<v Speaker 2>it's really up, Like, oh, they see each other, they finish,

1:17:14.520 --> 1:17:16.519
<v Speaker 2>kill each other, you know what I'm saying. And then

1:17:16.720 --> 1:17:18.760
<v Speaker 2>and then hold on and then like when it comes

1:17:18.800 --> 1:17:23.439
<v Speaker 2>to the other side of it, as being elder Statesman

1:17:23.479 --> 1:17:26.160
<v Speaker 2>and OG's you still have to have perspective and know

1:17:26.600 --> 1:17:29.320
<v Speaker 2>like if Ad is sitting down talking to somebody, and

1:17:29.040 --> 1:17:32.400
<v Speaker 2>he talking to this person from this set, this hood

1:17:32.400 --> 1:17:34.439
<v Speaker 2>and this person from this hood, and and they low

1:17:34.520 --> 1:17:36.880
<v Speaker 2>key and a rap beef, but it's starting to translate

1:17:36.960 --> 1:17:40.240
<v Speaker 2>into some street ship. He can speak to them because

1:17:40.240 --> 1:17:42.559
<v Speaker 2>he been through that before. It'd be like, hey, bro,

1:17:43.240 --> 1:17:45.479
<v Speaker 2>I know y'all, y'all finna do y'all thing. Let me

1:17:45.560 --> 1:17:47.559
<v Speaker 2>just give you this game. I think that's the proper

1:17:47.560 --> 1:17:50.040
<v Speaker 2>way to approach it from an OG's perspective, and just saying,

1:17:50.240 --> 1:17:53.360
<v Speaker 2>y'all stoopid motherfuckers, you know you dumb. Not that quest

1:17:53.360 --> 1:17:56.200
<v Speaker 2>said that, but that's the that's the energy that they

1:17:56.200 --> 1:17:59.720
<v Speaker 2>were receiving it, like when Bill cosbying Oprah Winfrey with

1:18:00.960 --> 1:18:03.680
<v Speaker 2>go against hip hop or pull up your pants and

1:18:03.680 --> 1:18:06.599
<v Speaker 2>stuff like that. Yeah, that's cool, but you were once

1:18:06.680 --> 1:18:09.720
<v Speaker 2>young yourself, right, And so if you were once young

1:18:09.760 --> 1:18:12.320
<v Speaker 2>and you are authentically of the culture, then you should

1:18:12.360 --> 1:18:14.479
<v Speaker 2>be able to relate to where they at in their

1:18:14.479 --> 1:18:17.200
<v Speaker 2>life and be able to translate that and be like, hey, bro,

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<v Speaker 2>I know that you want to go get your get back. Bro,

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<v Speaker 2>let me show you how to do it in a

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<v Speaker 2>different way as opposed to just going on a public

1:18:23.600 --> 1:18:27.680
<v Speaker 2>platform and you know, bashing how they doing it. I

1:18:27.680 --> 1:18:30.680
<v Speaker 2>don't think that's an effective way to communicate, you know, respectfully.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what though, too, We are in the era

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<v Speaker 1>man and where people don't really listen to what people say, right,

1:18:37.080 --> 1:18:39.439
<v Speaker 1>they'd take a small portion of what you say it's

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<v Speaker 1>all clips and lead with that and say, well, man

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<v Speaker 1>eight went on there and dismantle them.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like they kind of twist your words up. I

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<v Speaker 1>think what he was saying, and I kind of like,

1:18:51.160 --> 1:18:52.760
<v Speaker 1>once I looked at it, I kind of had to

1:18:52.800 --> 1:18:55.479
<v Speaker 1>agree with him a little bit. It wasn't he was

1:18:55.479 --> 1:18:57.320
<v Speaker 1>saying the track was kind of R and B ish.

1:18:57.720 --> 1:19:00.680
<v Speaker 1>You feel what I'm saying. He didn't say nothing derogatory

1:19:00.720 --> 1:19:02.760
<v Speaker 1>about the music. He could say he thought the track

1:19:02.880 --> 1:19:03.240
<v Speaker 1>was soft.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, I know that, but I'm not talking about that.

1:19:05.479 --> 1:19:07.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking I know what he said. I'm not I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not saying that he bashed young young people or hip hop.

1:19:11.000 --> 1:19:13.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying that's what they got from it. That's what

1:19:14.000 --> 1:19:16.840
<v Speaker 2>they received from it, right exactly. They didn't hear. He

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<v Speaker 2>was just talking about the music. He a request Love

1:19:19.000 --> 1:19:22.439
<v Speaker 2>is a real musicians and shit like he really is

1:19:22.479 --> 1:19:24.600
<v Speaker 2>a genius for real, so he understands, Like I just

1:19:24.640 --> 1:19:26.560
<v Speaker 2>don't understand. Why would you dis somebody with a R

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<v Speaker 2>and B record, you know underneath that or whatever, you know,

1:19:29.840 --> 1:19:32.599
<v Speaker 2>whatever the case may be. What he said, I understand

1:19:32.600 --> 1:19:36.880
<v Speaker 2>that how people received it though it's old. It's this

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<v Speaker 2>old dude hating.

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<v Speaker 4>On the way you all washed.

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<v Speaker 2>So what I'm saying is I'm learning this too. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't go in the studio and say this record trash

1:19:44.960 --> 1:19:47.280
<v Speaker 2>no more. I don't even volunteer my opinion. I wait

1:19:47.320 --> 1:19:49.240
<v Speaker 2>for somebody to ask me my opinion, and then I

1:19:49.320 --> 1:19:51.760
<v Speaker 2>give you my opinion. But that's something I had to

1:19:51.840 --> 1:19:55.120
<v Speaker 2>learn as I've gotten older. And that's all I'm saying.

1:19:55.400 --> 1:19:57.360
<v Speaker 2>I understand. I know what he was saying. He was

1:19:57.400 --> 1:19:59.240
<v Speaker 2>just like, bro, why would you put this? Why would

1:19:59.240 --> 1:20:01.519
<v Speaker 2>you make that kind of record over this music like this?

1:20:02.080 --> 1:20:03.320
<v Speaker 2>There's records for.

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<v Speaker 4>That, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I get what he's saying, because he's a real musician.

1:20:06.240 --> 1:20:08.760
<v Speaker 2>He really like is for real? You know what I mean?

1:20:09.160 --> 1:20:11.920
<v Speaker 2>Quits Love's next level. Yeah, he's a real musician. I

1:20:12.000 --> 1:20:14.040
<v Speaker 2>get what he's saying. That's not what people took though,

1:20:14.320 --> 1:20:17.120
<v Speaker 2>And that's what I'm saying. The message gets misconstrued when

1:20:17.120 --> 1:20:19.360
<v Speaker 2>you don't say it properly, or when you don't say

1:20:19.360 --> 1:20:20.479
<v Speaker 2>it in a way that people receive it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because sometimes it's just the fact that some of

1:20:24.439 --> 1:20:28.080
<v Speaker 3>these people, in this newer generation of that we have,

1:20:30.479 --> 1:20:33.680
<v Speaker 3>you have to really dumb down shit for them to

1:20:34.400 --> 1:20:37.320
<v Speaker 3>all the shit. Because you could say a word to

1:20:37.360 --> 1:20:40.880
<v Speaker 3>a motherfucker they looking like what and it's just as

1:20:40.880 --> 1:20:42.160
<v Speaker 3>simple as plain as day.

1:20:42.680 --> 1:20:44.360
<v Speaker 2>But are.

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<v Speaker 3>Our youth sometimes, you know, don't want to be educated

1:20:51.320 --> 1:20:54.120
<v Speaker 3>to the simple fact of shit, you know. And like

1:20:54.160 --> 1:20:56.680
<v Speaker 3>I tell someone, I say it all the time. I

1:20:56.800 --> 1:21:01.679
<v Speaker 3>was once eighteen nineteen, I once had that head of nigga.

1:21:01.680 --> 1:21:02.559
<v Speaker 2>You old as monthful.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't tell me nothing, not that I did that

1:21:04.960 --> 1:21:11.960
<v Speaker 3>towards any of my OG's or anybody that I respected before.

1:21:11.720 --> 1:21:14.120
<v Speaker 2>Me as far as hip hop is concerned.

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<v Speaker 3>I never told a motherfuck, but I had that mind

1:21:18.240 --> 1:21:21.679
<v Speaker 3>state of nigga. I'm young, nineteen, got a record nigga

1:21:21.720 --> 1:21:25.600
<v Speaker 3>from the hood. You can't tell me a motherfucking.

1:21:25.360 --> 1:21:27.800
<v Speaker 2>I agree with you. That's just the youthful you bris,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I think, But I also think to what

1:21:30.200 --> 1:21:30.800
<v Speaker 2>you just said.

1:21:32.360 --> 1:21:35.479
<v Speaker 3>You think you know it all definitely until you don't,

1:21:35.720 --> 1:21:38.800
<v Speaker 3>until you know you don't, or you mature enough to know.

1:21:39.320 --> 1:21:39.679
<v Speaker 2>Damn.

1:21:39.840 --> 1:21:41.920
<v Speaker 3>I thought I knew a gang of shit, and I

1:21:42.000 --> 1:21:45.439
<v Speaker 3>really don't know a lot. So you start being able

1:21:45.520 --> 1:21:50.639
<v Speaker 3>to accept and starting to be able to appreciate, being

1:21:50.680 --> 1:21:54.080
<v Speaker 3>able to get mature and learn the right shit, like

1:21:54.120 --> 1:21:57.600
<v Speaker 3>I said, because those critical years man for some.

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<v Speaker 4>For us youth, it.

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<v Speaker 2>Just be hard.

1:22:00.320 --> 1:22:03.160
<v Speaker 3>Niggas just be hard headed. I mean that's all. We

1:22:03.400 --> 1:22:05.960
<v Speaker 3>just be hard headed, especially if you come from the

1:22:06.040 --> 1:22:09.280
<v Speaker 3>sides that we've come from. We be a little hard

1:22:09.320 --> 1:22:12.080
<v Speaker 3>headed until we can mature enough to be like, you

1:22:12.120 --> 1:22:14.360
<v Speaker 3>know something, it is what it is? You know what

1:22:14.400 --> 1:22:16.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying, i'm'a give it to you raw and none cut,

1:22:16.760 --> 1:22:19.280
<v Speaker 3>and I'm not trying to disrespect you or whatever. But

1:22:20.000 --> 1:22:22.759
<v Speaker 3>the knowledge that I've learned by now that I gotta

1:22:22.800 --> 1:22:24.640
<v Speaker 3>be able to talk to you straight up, you know

1:22:24.680 --> 1:22:28.160
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying. So sure that only comes with maturity.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think as you get older, man, you just

1:22:31.560 --> 1:22:35.000
<v Speaker 2>have less time for the bullshit until motherfucker's what it is.

1:22:35.160 --> 1:22:37.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm with that. I I don't. I'm with that one.

1:22:38.720 --> 1:22:39.599
<v Speaker 2>Less time for it?

1:22:39.800 --> 1:22:42.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sing that song and dance and the sugar coat shit.

1:22:42.920 --> 1:22:45.439
<v Speaker 3>It's just really a lot of wasted time, man's time,

1:22:45.920 --> 1:22:46.679
<v Speaker 3>real talk.

1:22:46.960 --> 1:22:49.960
<v Speaker 2>Waste the time, man. Well we about to se what

1:22:50.000 --> 1:22:50.519
<v Speaker 2>do y'all.

1:22:50.320 --> 1:22:53.400
<v Speaker 1>Say, the perception that there's a West Coast bias that

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<v Speaker 1>we support everybody from the West even if there's tight

1:22:57.439 --> 1:22:59.800
<v Speaker 1>and does that say thing apply to me?

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<v Speaker 2>I want to want to recapt it, say the question again.

1:23:04.280 --> 1:23:05.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I want to say. Use you know when you

1:23:05.920 --> 1:23:07.479
<v Speaker 1>come in like that, Brian, you just sound like a

1:23:10.240 --> 1:23:15.040
<v Speaker 1>nigga on the podcast Out of Nowhere. Well, I don't

1:23:13.600 --> 1:23:23.280
<v Speaker 1>be question he said, is there a bias because niggas

1:23:23.320 --> 1:23:28.400
<v Speaker 1>feel like we support everything even if it's trash on

1:23:28.479 --> 1:23:31.160
<v Speaker 1>the West Coast as far as to on the East Coast.

1:23:31.360 --> 1:23:36.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm gonna say, but I'm so there's nuanced to it, though,

1:23:36.040 --> 1:23:37.960
<v Speaker 2>And I don't want to get into a science class

1:23:38.040 --> 1:23:40.519
<v Speaker 2>or a social studies class. But there's a reason why

1:23:40.600 --> 1:23:42.639
<v Speaker 2>things are set up the way they are. And that's

1:23:42.680 --> 1:23:44.519
<v Speaker 2>a great question, by the way. But for the people

1:23:44.560 --> 1:23:47.840
<v Speaker 2>who listen to this show when it comes to West

1:23:47.840 --> 1:23:51.920
<v Speaker 2>Coast from a music standpoint, it's not just music, it's culture.

1:23:52.400 --> 1:23:54.599
<v Speaker 2>We are in Mexico, it is what it is. This

1:23:54.680 --> 1:23:57.040
<v Speaker 2>land was stolen from Mexicans. That's a fact. Go back

1:23:57.080 --> 1:24:01.200
<v Speaker 2>and do your Google's right. So when you start, when

1:24:01.240 --> 1:24:04.320
<v Speaker 2>you start to when you start to look at old

1:24:04.439 --> 1:24:07.920
<v Speaker 2>West Coast music, don't get we support everybody else Los Angeles.

1:24:08.200 --> 1:24:09.960
<v Speaker 2>This is not I'm not making these numbers up because

1:24:09.960 --> 1:24:13.520
<v Speaker 2>I was in broad I'm in broadcasting Los Angeles specifically.

1:24:13.560 --> 1:24:18.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna go La County, San Fernando, Orange County, and

1:24:18.360 --> 1:24:24.160
<v Speaker 2>San Bernard and Riverside County. Eighty percent Mexican, eighty percent Latino.

1:24:24.240 --> 1:24:27.840
<v Speaker 2>Those are real numbers, seven percent black. So when you're

1:24:27.840 --> 1:24:30.519
<v Speaker 2>making music, you're not making music for the homies in

1:24:30.560 --> 1:24:32.599
<v Speaker 2>your neighborhood. You're not making music for people who even

1:24:32.640 --> 1:24:36.000
<v Speaker 2>look like you. You're making music for what's for what's urban

1:24:36.120 --> 1:24:38.479
<v Speaker 2>to us. Urban to us is not black because we

1:24:38.520 --> 1:24:42.000
<v Speaker 2>make up seven percent of the entire black population that

1:24:42.040 --> 1:24:45.200
<v Speaker 2>consumes music and media in this market, right, seven percent.

1:24:45.400 --> 1:24:48.120
<v Speaker 2>That's infants to senior citizens and everybody in between. But

1:24:48.160 --> 1:24:50.600
<v Speaker 2>then geographically, for people who want to visualize it, or

1:24:50.640 --> 1:24:52.679
<v Speaker 2>go look at your Google maps and y'all could picture

1:24:52.680 --> 1:24:54.479
<v Speaker 2>this in your mind because you're from here. If you

1:24:54.520 --> 1:24:58.599
<v Speaker 2>go Dackwaller Beach and you go east to the seventeen freeway,

1:24:59.400 --> 1:25:02.800
<v Speaker 2>picture that. Then you go to the ten Freeway, and

1:25:02.840 --> 1:25:05.080
<v Speaker 2>then you go south to the to the South Bay

1:25:05.160 --> 1:25:07.320
<v Speaker 2>to Torrence. That's where all the black people is. And

1:25:07.360 --> 1:25:14.439
<v Speaker 2>writing down the little box tell me I'm lying, no, yeah, right, yeah, okay.

1:25:14.680 --> 1:25:17.280
<v Speaker 2>So that being said, LA is way bigger than that box.

1:25:17.320 --> 1:25:20.760
<v Speaker 2>I just like La County and everything I just named

1:25:20.840 --> 1:25:23.280
<v Speaker 2>is way bigger than that box. So when you think

1:25:23.280 --> 1:25:26.639
<v Speaker 2>about just driving down Wilmington, you'll go through two hundred

1:25:26.680 --> 1:25:31.760
<v Speaker 2>hoods mm hmm in real life, Like you gee, what

1:25:31.760 --> 1:25:34.559
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying going down Central Like it's just so these

1:25:34.600 --> 1:25:37.479
<v Speaker 2>things I'm trying to explain to people about the stigma

1:25:37.600 --> 1:25:41.639
<v Speaker 2>of West Coast music or LA music specific California. Our

1:25:41.880 --> 1:25:46.320
<v Speaker 2>demographic is so skewed and specific that it's more white

1:25:46.360 --> 1:25:49.360
<v Speaker 2>people and Asians and Mexicans than us. So when you

1:25:49.400 --> 1:25:53.439
<v Speaker 2>make a song, it not only has to be relatable

1:25:53.439 --> 1:25:56.400
<v Speaker 2>to Black people, but it has to be relatable to Latinos,

1:25:56.439 --> 1:25:58.880
<v Speaker 2>it has to be relatable to Asians and white people.

1:25:59.080 --> 1:26:01.360
<v Speaker 2>And then you have the difficulty of going across the

1:26:01.400 --> 1:26:03.439
<v Speaker 2>country to the other side, so you're not just a

1:26:03.479 --> 1:26:07.400
<v Speaker 2>regional act, and then your music has to be translatable

1:26:07.439 --> 1:26:09.320
<v Speaker 2>to black people in the South who don't have the

1:26:09.320 --> 1:26:12.280
<v Speaker 2>same experience as we do. There are two, No, they

1:26:12.320 --> 1:26:14.760
<v Speaker 2>just added one. There are three. There's some more game

1:26:14.800 --> 1:26:18.439
<v Speaker 2>for y'all. There are three urban radio stations on this

1:26:18.560 --> 1:26:21.760
<v Speaker 2>side of the Mississippi River. Three urban meaning, I mean

1:26:21.840 --> 1:26:24.799
<v Speaker 2>you're looking to how the way stuff music is formatted.

1:26:25.000 --> 1:26:28.519
<v Speaker 2>There's rhythm rhythmic, which still just brought up, and there's

1:26:28.640 --> 1:26:32.360
<v Speaker 2>urban and there's top forty chr formats. Right, So from

1:26:32.400 --> 1:26:35.040
<v Speaker 2>a demographic standpoint, the reason why television and radio are

1:26:35.040 --> 1:26:37.840
<v Speaker 2>great barometers is because they do real metrics based on

1:26:37.880 --> 1:26:40.280
<v Speaker 2>the census and stuff like that. So when Black people

1:26:40.280 --> 1:26:42.760
<v Speaker 2>get them in forms in the mal you don't fill

1:26:42.760 --> 1:26:45.240
<v Speaker 2>them out, or you don't vote, or the census they

1:26:45.240 --> 1:26:47.240
<v Speaker 2>come in, they come every year or every couple of

1:26:47.320 --> 1:26:49.120
<v Speaker 2>years to your house, and you don't fill that out.

1:26:49.200 --> 1:26:51.360
<v Speaker 2>That means that now you don't count when they doing

1:26:51.400 --> 1:26:53.519
<v Speaker 2>them numbers, when they passing out them programs, when they're

1:26:53.520 --> 1:26:56.559
<v Speaker 2>doing when they doing them zip codes. And I'm sorry

1:26:56.640 --> 1:26:58.760
<v Speaker 2>when schools get their funding based on the zip codes

1:26:58.760 --> 1:27:01.880
<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that. Or media standpoint, when it comes

1:27:01.920 --> 1:27:05.520
<v Speaker 2>to music, you make your song. There are three stations

1:27:05.640 --> 1:27:07.880
<v Speaker 2>on this side of the Mississippi River that cater to

1:27:07.920 --> 1:27:12.240
<v Speaker 2>black people. Three radio stations total. Okay, So if you

1:27:12.280 --> 1:27:14.320
<v Speaker 2>go Texas and you go straight up the middle and

1:27:14.360 --> 1:27:17.400
<v Speaker 2>you divide the United States in half, just look at

1:27:17.439 --> 1:27:20.320
<v Speaker 2>it like basketball conferences. You got the Western Conference and

1:27:20.360 --> 1:27:23.280
<v Speaker 2>you got the Eastern Conference. Right, It's crazy that Cleveland

1:27:23.320 --> 1:27:26.679
<v Speaker 2>is in the Western Conference because that's the Midwest exact. Okay,

1:27:27.000 --> 1:27:29.840
<v Speaker 2>So if you look at it from a basketball standpoint,

1:27:30.720 --> 1:27:34.080
<v Speaker 2>I'll give you another piece. The Mississippi River divides the

1:27:35.000 --> 1:27:37.759
<v Speaker 2>United States in half. When it comes to broadcasting, everything

1:27:37.840 --> 1:27:40.960
<v Speaker 2>east of the Mississippi River is our w stations, w

1:27:41.160 --> 1:27:44.920
<v Speaker 2>k R, z WP like they're all W every W

1:27:45.360 --> 1:27:48.759
<v Speaker 2>up N. Everything west of the Mississippi River are K stations,

1:27:49.040 --> 1:27:54.599
<v Speaker 2>K T e L A kPr kt L. I went

1:27:54.600 --> 1:27:57.160
<v Speaker 2>to school for this ship for radio. So look so

1:27:57.880 --> 1:27:59.920
<v Speaker 2>and then if you go in San Diego and you

1:28:00.120 --> 1:28:02.800
<v Speaker 2>see stations like Z ninety, the reason why it's a

1:28:02.880 --> 1:28:05.400
<v Speaker 2>Z is because their actual broadcast antenna is not in

1:28:05.400 --> 1:28:08.800
<v Speaker 2>the United States. It's in Mexico. That's why when you

1:28:08.840 --> 1:28:11.040
<v Speaker 2>go north to like you ride that Canada border, or

1:28:11.080 --> 1:28:13.040
<v Speaker 2>you go south and you ride that Mexico border. If

1:28:13.040 --> 1:28:16.160
<v Speaker 2>a station begins with Z, that means that they antenna

1:28:16.160 --> 1:28:18.439
<v Speaker 2>that they broadcast on is actually over the border and

1:28:18.479 --> 1:28:20.920
<v Speaker 2>it just come over here because it's cheaper, and you

1:28:20.920 --> 1:28:24.320
<v Speaker 2>know whatever the case may be. Long story short, every

1:28:24.400 --> 1:28:27.200
<v Speaker 2>case station, with the exception of three radio stations are

1:28:27.520 --> 1:28:33.080
<v Speaker 2>rhythmic stations. Rhythm. They cater to up tempo party Latino girls.

1:28:33.680 --> 1:28:37.559
<v Speaker 2>That's it. So when you and then so then the

1:28:37.640 --> 1:28:42.000
<v Speaker 2>urban stations music, it's not fast, it's just it's tempo music.

1:28:42.320 --> 1:28:46.800
<v Speaker 2>So when you're talking about urban music. NBA young Boy.

1:28:46.800 --> 1:28:48.439
<v Speaker 2>You ever heard the NBA Young Boy song on the

1:28:48.520 --> 1:28:53.120
<v Speaker 2>radio in La No, you won't hear that. You don't

1:28:53.120 --> 1:28:55.880
<v Speaker 2>really see GZ young Boy. You don't see Boosy Webber.

1:28:55.880 --> 1:28:57.280
<v Speaker 2>You don't see none of them dudes out here doing

1:28:57.320 --> 1:28:59.679
<v Speaker 2>shows like that. They make urban music. They make music

1:28:59.680 --> 1:29:02.360
<v Speaker 2>for black people. There's not enough black people to sustain

1:29:02.400 --> 1:29:04.800
<v Speaker 2>the ecosystem. If you did a show, whether it was

1:29:04.880 --> 1:29:07.400
<v Speaker 2>in nineties or today, and it was all black people,

1:29:07.400 --> 1:29:11.800
<v Speaker 2>it wouldn't sell out right or on true. Okay, that

1:29:11.920 --> 1:29:15.240
<v Speaker 2>being said, we don't have an ecosystem to sustain from

1:29:15.280 --> 1:29:17.920
<v Speaker 2>a music standpoint. So when you start to go in

1:29:18.000 --> 1:29:20.040
<v Speaker 2>across the country and you translate your music to the

1:29:20.080 --> 1:29:24.240
<v Speaker 2>other side. There are six urban radio stations just in Atlanta.

1:29:24.960 --> 1:29:27.559
<v Speaker 2>There are six radio stations that cater just to hip

1:29:27.600 --> 1:29:32.000
<v Speaker 2>hop just in Atlanta. There's one urban radio station in California.

1:29:33.360 --> 1:29:36.479
<v Speaker 2>So think about that, right, So there's one urb and

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<v Speaker 2>that's because of Doc Winner, and shout out to him.

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<v Speaker 2>He always wanted to empower, you know, the black person

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<v Speaker 2>or the black people who have a stake in the culture.

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<v Speaker 2>So we controlled the culture. We don't dictate the metrics

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<v Speaker 2>of it. We set the cools, but we don't control

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<v Speaker 2>the money. We don't control the numbers. YG sold out

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<v Speaker 2>the form I was there. If it was only black

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<v Speaker 2>people wouldn't have sold out, definitely, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>But you can do. They have a Chiplin circuit in

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<v Speaker 2>the South webby boozygz Ross. They all do the chilling

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<v Speaker 2>circuit out there. They go thirty thousand a night, they

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<v Speaker 2>go from club to club, it be twenty five hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>So then hold on. Look. So then when you start

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<v Speaker 2>looking at the music to your times. It's a long explanation.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I said it's deeper. But the long explanation

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<v Speaker 2>is when you look at the music, the music has

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<v Speaker 2>to line up so perfectly culturally, sonically, the tempo, the samples,

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<v Speaker 2>the everything has to line up so perfectly at one

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<v Speaker 2>time in order for it to translate. That that's why

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<v Speaker 2>we get that bias. That's why it's like if any song,

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<v Speaker 2>any song that's ninety five to one hundred and five bpm,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody assumed, oh, that's West Coast, that's a West Coast sound.

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<v Speaker 2>I heard Officer say that when he went on the radio,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was like, oh, Rick Flair drip, that's a

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<v Speaker 2>West Coast sound. To beat every song that one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>bpm is not a West Coast song. I'm a DJ

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<v Speaker 2>by Tray, I mean d Jensen's Forever right. So if

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<v Speaker 2>you got Blow the Whistle Too Short, that's one hundred bpm.

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<v Speaker 2>Rihanna with Drake What's My Name? Oh Na Na, that's

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred bpm. You got Drake Passion Fruit, the disco

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<v Speaker 2>song that he did, that's one hundred bpm. You got

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<v Speaker 2>Lil John Get out of your Mind the techno get

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<v Speaker 2>out of Here. That's one hundred bpm. I just gave

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<v Speaker 2>you four songs that's one hundred bpm. So I hate

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<v Speaker 2>that bias when people say, oh, that's a West Coast

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<v Speaker 2>song because it's because it got tempo and it's moving. No,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not true. It's just that you people don't understand

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<v Speaker 2>and and and they shrunk the dance floor and got

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<v Speaker 2>rid of the dance floor and created sections to sell

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<v Speaker 2>more bottles. It's like a whole cultural overhaul that went

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<v Speaker 2>that we went through from a music standpoint, that made

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<v Speaker 2>things of what they are now. That's kind of like people.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't dance in the club no more man, And honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think that.

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<v Speaker 4>Honestly, I think.

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<v Speaker 3>We're the one motherfucking coast that don't really support their artists.

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<v Speaker 4>As much as they should.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's what I was about to say.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, I think, I think, I think down South

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<v Speaker 3>and East Coast support which still are like they just

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<v Speaker 3>don't support us here. Who is day though, I'm talking

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<v Speaker 3>about people period are.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at look at also too from not and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not I'm not copying. I'm not caping for these for

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<v Speaker 2>any infrastructure or any people. But LA is also the

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<v Speaker 2>number two market in the country. So this is another stigma, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So the top five media markets in the country. Number

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<v Speaker 2>one is New York. This is per capita based on

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<v Speaker 2>population and people who consume media and music and stuff

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<v Speaker 2>like that. Number one is New York, Number two is LA,

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<v Speaker 2>Number three is Chicago, number four is Dallas, and number

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<v Speaker 2>five is the Bay. That's those are the top five

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<v Speaker 2>media markets in the country, right. So that's why if

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<v Speaker 2>you get a song going in the Bay in LA

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<v Speaker 2>and it becomes huge, you got the biggest, biggest movement

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<v Speaker 2>going because two of the top five markets are in

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<v Speaker 2>California right now. Now, the other part about that is

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to support in theory, you're right, but

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<v Speaker 2>this being the number two market in the country, the

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<v Speaker 2>majority people who consume media here aren't from here. This

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<v Speaker 2>is number one transplant city in the United States. There

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<v Speaker 2>is a number one transplant city in the United States

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<v Speaker 2>of America. So not to say not to take away

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<v Speaker 2>from New York, because New York is the number one

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<v Speaker 2>market based on population, but out here, this is where

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<v Speaker 2>everybody comes, actors, actresses, publicists, music artists, entertainers, dancers, songwriters, showrunners,

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<v Speaker 2>people who write TV, people who already this is the

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<v Speaker 2>number one transplant place to come. So it's not that

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<v Speaker 2>we don't support our people, it's not really enough of

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<v Speaker 2>us in position and the infrastructure to move the needle.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, what I was going to say was this when

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<v Speaker 1>we was down South, ain't getting way more love down

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<v Speaker 1>here than me get out here. And it sounds crazy

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<v Speaker 1>as it sounds. So we at this spot. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>girl from South Carolina that come up to him rapping

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<v Speaker 1>his shit word for word. I just thinking, I think

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<v Speaker 1>the thing about la is La is just too cool too.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody out here is a actor. Everybody out here is

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<v Speaker 1>a actors. Everybody out here as a rapper. Every one

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<v Speaker 1>you meet is a DJ. This is the me too

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<v Speaker 1>state for real. You feel what I'm saying, Oh you

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<v Speaker 1>do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Me too. I do that too. Yeah. I actually went

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<v Speaker 2>went to a party BT weekend. It was more people

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<v Speaker 2>in the VIP line and it wasn't the regular line.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying. It's like, Nope, like your addicts,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody wants to be regular.

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<v Speaker 2>You could have got in faster by going in general

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<v Speaker 2>mession and get in in the VP line. That was

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<v Speaker 2>a true story, but it was. But that's what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think the Me and Glasses talked about this.

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<v Speaker 2>The one mistake I think a lot of us made,

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<v Speaker 2>which I'm not making that mistake anymore, is running away

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<v Speaker 2>from Hollywood. That's what this place is. So when you

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<v Speaker 2>when you when you shun it and go against it,

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<v Speaker 2>it's more like now you're putting yourself on the outside

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<v Speaker 2>of the business instead of just using it for what

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<v Speaker 2>it is. What it's there for. Right, Hollywood has become

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<v Speaker 2>a negative connotation. Oh you in Hollywood. Well no, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>actually going Westwood or Brentwood, to be honest with you.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, here we around be here all night man.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah for sure, we missed around be here all night man.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate you coming down to sit with us. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>What night This homegrown radio come on, what day? We

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<v Speaker 2>don't have a specially to day. We just drop episodes.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do have another Shoulders coming probably for the

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<v Speaker 2>next two weeks. That's I'm gonna be announcing it. Just

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<v Speaker 2>keep it locking my stay on my socials.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, whish wish your Instagram, man, I don't just assume

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<v Speaker 1>everybody know who the hell you is.

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<v Speaker 2>At dj H E D on everything at dj H

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<v Speaker 2>E D djhead dot com. Check it out.

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<v Speaker 1>And on that note, we go holler at show next week.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeh, another thing, Come on, I was looking at