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Speaker 1: We like to welcome you to another episode the Gainst

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Speaker 1: the Chronicles podcast where gangst the Rap Lives and it's

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Speaker 1: your boy Big Steal along with my guy. Yeah, let

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Speaker 1: me cut my fucking phone off too. You gotta make

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Speaker 1: sure mans motherfuckers be calling for real and shit man.

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Speaker 1: And it's funny is my wife had text me every

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Speaker 1: show and say, what are you busy now? And I

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Speaker 1: say no, I'm just in the middle of recording.

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Speaker 2: We had. Yeah, yeah, you know we.

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Speaker 1: Got a special guest now. I don't even like seeing

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Speaker 1: a special guest man because he my homeboy. He no

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Speaker 1: longer an' been knowing.

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Speaker 2: You now though too long. I need new friends. New friends?

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Speaker 1: Is the ones you got definitely getting old? They pieces

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Speaker 1: of shit too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't even know, to be honest, we got

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Speaker 2: to be a decade at least.

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Speaker 1: Yeah for real man. You know what's funny You was

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Speaker 1: in podcasting so early? When was g o for in

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Speaker 1: Signal Hill? When we got the studio Signal Hill? How

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Speaker 1: long ago was that? That was two eleven? We was

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Speaker 1: doing Homegrown before that? Yeah, for real and Chuck's Apartment, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Homegrown radio, college radio. Yeah, I don't seen you go

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Speaker 1: through all your progressions and this ship and you the

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Speaker 1: motherfucker man. I see you on it early arguing with

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Speaker 1: Elliott Wilson them.

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't necessarily think it's arguing. I would

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Speaker 2: say more like organized discourse. Here.

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Speaker 1: You gonna come start, man. You know this this, this

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Speaker 1: is the cheap rent section.

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Speaker 2: You can't come over here arguing it is. It is debate, conversation,

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Speaker 2: aggressively conversation.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, man, Some of them dudes,

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Speaker 1: and this is no disrespect to Elliott or any of them.

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Speaker 2: That's whenever whenever a niggas say no disrespect, the disrespect

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Speaker 2: for to come in no.

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Speaker 3: Because your opinion for to be different than what a

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Speaker 3: motherfucker talking about. No disrespect. But it's always a butt.

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Speaker 3: Probably what's the butt?

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Speaker 1: Don't it seem like it's a lot of corn balls

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Speaker 1: that's commentating and speaking on hip hop nowadays?

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Speaker 2: Haven't it always been? No?

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Speaker 1: Not really, man, because I think about the catt that

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Speaker 1: I thought were corn balls. Actually, you know, looking back,

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Speaker 1: they really wasn't corn balls. They was great compared to

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Speaker 1: this crop of motherfuckers we got today.

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Speaker 2: I mean who compared to who? Though?

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Speaker 3: Like, what do you mean as far as who like,

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Speaker 3: what's what's the comparisons?

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Speaker 4: What would you say, like a person that you felt was.

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Speaker 2: You know, a.

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Speaker 3: Great uh commentator on hip hop opposed to somebody who

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Speaker 3: was corny as I think, you know what.

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Speaker 1: Man doctor Dre and they a lover your MTV reps.

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Speaker 1: I think they was cool. Okay, I think they was cool,

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Speaker 1: big Tigger. Back then, we really didn't have nobody that

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Speaker 1: was corny. We had you know what we had, guys,

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Speaker 1: No I said, no ticket was tight, big ticket was

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Speaker 1: So who was corny? You know what? Back then, I

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Speaker 1: thought the dude Joe Claire, they hosted Rap City.

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Speaker 2: For Nigga, said Joe Claire.

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Speaker 1: I think Joe Claire for a minute, but then compared

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Speaker 1: to the people that compared to the people that we

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Speaker 2: But what what what constitutes somebody is being corny?

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Speaker 1: Just somebody that's not really from the culture. So they

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Speaker 1: have this really skewed opinion on how stuff should be.

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Speaker 1: Like I hear people saying like just just off the

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Speaker 1: wall ship Like, well I heard that, you know, Kendrick

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Speaker 1: I mean. It's like, oh, I don't think he did this.

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Speaker 1: It's like, motherfucker, what record you've been listening to? You

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Speaker 1: saying you feel what I'm saying?

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Speaker 2: What record? Just well? I think that people people always

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Speaker 2: convolute their opinion for facts. They always say they always

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Speaker 2: being an opinion. It's all artists all up to your

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Speaker 2: it's your opinion. Eight got an opinion, you got an opinion.

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Speaker 2: I have an opinion. So it's like, I think what

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Speaker 3: You know, the days of your opinion to a motherfucker

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Speaker 3: self is is their fact?

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Speaker 4: You get me. You try to tell.

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Speaker 3: Motherfuckers today that you know, nigga, that's really your opinion.

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Speaker 3: But a motherfucker are you to death if they feel

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Speaker 3: and like I told the motherfucker the other day, there

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Speaker 3: tell the motherfucking nigga really what you're saying. It's your

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Speaker 3: person and there's nothing wrong with that. But people feel

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Speaker 3: like their personal opinions are their true fact.

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Speaker 4: Nigga.

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Speaker 3: That's whatever, nigga, You get me. So that's what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Right there.

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Speaker 1: You see all are arguing, right, and people really be

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Speaker 1: invested in this stuff like it's like like it's a

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Speaker 1: other day, I said, bro, there's nothing because he said, well,

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Speaker 1: he wanted to get the last word, Drake Won, I said,

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Speaker 1: if you feel that in your heart, my god, that's

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Speaker 1: cool because this stuff is subjective. It is there's no

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Speaker 1: wins the public opinion, belly, you feel what I mean?

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Speaker 1: If more people in public opinion seem like they're saying

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's all it's all the court of public opinion.

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Speaker 2: But it's kind of crazy to say, Drake one. But

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Speaker 2: you know what, But but here's the thing, like everybody, Okay,

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Speaker 2: this is how I look at opinions, right, opinion. You know,

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Speaker 2: they'd be like, oh, it's like assholes. I think an

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Speaker 2: these days, right, So so when you look at it like, oh,

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Speaker 2: what he said, when you pass your opinion off, like

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Speaker 2: that's it. That's where people got it sucked up. And

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Speaker 2: I think that's where they go wrong.

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Speaker 1: They get it really misconstrued. And then you have all

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Speaker 1: and then forget the dudes that's getting paid to commentate. Right,

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the fans for a minute. You would

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Speaker 1: see some of these fans, man, they would like they

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Speaker 1: were about to cry.

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Speaker 2: Man, I did see a fan cry, Actually you did, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I did see the I saw these academics get emotional

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Speaker 2: on his stream. I don't know if he cried because

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Speaker 2: crime has a definition, but it was as close to

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Speaker 2: it as possible. Yeah, it's like, it's not this series,

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Speaker 2: it's a rep.

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Speaker 4: It's a bat.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, man, but.

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Speaker 3: Hey, shit is just weird man. Just niggas is just

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Speaker 3: weird man today, Man, just take me back to the ages, man,

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Speaker 3: fuck man, these niggas is weird.

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Speaker 4: Man, Like.

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Speaker 3: Man, I came from hip hop and beefing and whatever

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Speaker 3: and opinions in fact, whatever, man, but it's fucking music

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Speaker 3: shit or whatever.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Man, like you're getting emotional because like Nigga was, it

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Speaker 3: makes me think, like what you got something invested in

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Speaker 3: the ship.

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Speaker 1: Like exactly. And you know what I told somebody the

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Speaker 1: other day, I said, man, save that type of energy

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Speaker 1: two people that got way more money than you.

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Speaker 3: I mean, but a lot of this shit is for

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Speaker 3: show man, if you want to ask me. You know,

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Speaker 3: niggas get on and be streaming live and then like

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Speaker 3: just a lot.

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Speaker 2: Of this shit is for show man.

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Speaker 3: It gotta be like, come on, this shit gotta be

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Speaker 3: this shit is crazy.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, Like to your point, though, I think

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Speaker 2: that they do have stuff invested. You got you got

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Speaker 2: it because it's a distraction from like life like, for instance,

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Speaker 2: if you you know how like some people go get high,

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Speaker 2: some people go get drunk, some people have their advices.

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Speaker 2: Other people just dive into other people's lives, like when

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Speaker 2: you watch reality TV. I don't personally watch reality TV

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Speaker 3: I mean, still you sit up and be emotional or

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Speaker 3: if your favorite artist got this, sitting at home crying

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Speaker 3: and shit, motherfucking bro, I.

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Speaker 1: Don't lose a bit of sleep. And I'm gonna tell

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Speaker 1: you this too. Everybody up here really no K do right,

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Speaker 1: and they ain't there one of us got emotionally, you

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Speaker 1: do with that. But he just lost a rap battle, y'all. Man,

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Speaker 1: Drake got him. Because I'm not gonna lie when if

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Speaker 1: You know that ship, I said, man, this shit is hot,

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Speaker 1: this shit is hard, Kate, Like we had the rap.

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Speaker 1: That's why I knew it would be interesting because he

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Speaker 1: came with such a strong first record. Then when Doc

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Speaker 1: we got a fight now. Yeah, it wasn't no clear

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Speaker 2: You feel what I mean? Well, I think. I mean.

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Speaker 2: The thing is I didn't even intentionally get involved. They

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Speaker 2: Push Ups record, I expressed a sentiment that everybody shares,

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Speaker 2: like why is academics the only person on earth with

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Speaker 2: right because they either either they gonna deal with you

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Speaker 2: So if that's your record, claim your record, that's your

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Speaker 2: that's your song. Right. Why that's like me putting the

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Speaker 2: with it. Why it is not out? Why is not

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Speaker 2: on my YouTube? Why is not on my SoundCloud. That

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Speaker 2: like it was. It's not to be honest, you know

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Speaker 2: how like when people say, oh, h that's not a

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Speaker 2: me and be like, well, at least head went out

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Speaker 1: He's gonna get in his ass. You know what I think, man,

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Speaker 1: I think Drake is a top tier artist.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's the reason why he's selling all these

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Speaker 1: I told somebody, I said, man, you can't even have

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Speaker 3: Still you up in here clean tonight, man, I'm noticing

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Speaker 1: Beard off dog. You know what it was, man, you

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Speaker 1: know what it was. When I went to see my mama,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that scruffy look. Man, you're looking clean in this month.

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Speaker 1: My mother in law was telling me I was looking

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Speaker 1: like for deal Castro. They had all kinds of jokes man.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's good. I bet your wife liked

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Speaker 3: that type of ship. Nice and clean, shaven, now looking decent,

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Speaker 2: You would just be the one to call it.

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Speaker 3: I had to call it because I'm getting that. I'm

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Speaker 3: Drake and Kendrick because it's over with. It's just it's done.

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Speaker 3: We we keep we keep putting fire on motherfucking burning ashes.

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Speaker 3: You get me, We keep trying the ashes is you know,

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Speaker 3: That's where this ship is at right now.

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Speaker 1: So let me ask you this. Yeah, if Drake dropped

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Speaker 3: Matter it's done with because it's done got upstairs, and

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Speaker 3: we done talked about that.

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Speaker 4: It's then went.

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Speaker 3: Upstairs because like you said, they done told people you

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Speaker 3: gotta cut this shit out. You're talking pedophiles and child

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Speaker 3: molestations and all of that, and regardless, at the end

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Speaker 3: of the day, that don't sit well with the nigga

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Speaker 3: sitting upstairs. You get me, the nigga who's sitting upstairs

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Speaker 3: nigga's bigger than that shit. We got big ass billion

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Speaker 3: dollar companies ready to pull out because you niggas is

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Speaker 3: Y'all fucking with the money, give me fuck the little

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Speaker 3: fucking with motherfucking president, your motherfucking persuades it, money and ship.

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Speaker 3: You get me, So it's time to cut this ship

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Speaker 3: out because you got big motherfuckers want to pull out

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Speaker 3: a ship because first of all, we can't be dealing

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Speaker 3: with motherfuckers who just just the just the just the

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Speaker 3: and child? Whoa you know that because that spook a

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Speaker 3: motherfuck in a minute, spook a Nike a motherfucking you

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Speaker 3: get me a nigger and big book, then please, nigga,

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Speaker 3: we can't have no no kind of no kind of

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Speaker 2: Was that Was that like an issue like your when

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Speaker 2: you was doing your thing? Like was that was that

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Speaker 2: ever a worry about like endorsement deals?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 3: No, no, because we were still at the we were

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Speaker 3: still at the point of where we were an afterthought

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Speaker 3: to companies. You get me, I come from the era

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Speaker 3: of before the aster PE's and cash moneys and quality

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Speaker 4: Now I come before that.

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Speaker 2: I come.

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Speaker 4: I come from the era of.

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Speaker 3: You know, corporate ass motherfucking white men who was running labels,

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Speaker 3: the back of the bigger picture. So it was we

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Speaker 3: didn't have fucking investors and corporate sponsorships for motherfucker. That

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Speaker 3: was that was niggas like Hammer and shit. You know,

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Speaker 3: you had to be that big.

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Speaker 2: I never even reached down to where y'all was at.

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Speaker 3: For motherfucking you see how my nigga dre and them

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Speaker 3: at the super Bowl with low riders and crip walking

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Speaker 3: man pepsi coat and then please give them some money

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Speaker 3: to these niggas, these niggas talking about shooting niggas and

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Speaker 3: riding and riders and that bumpty bumpty bu hey. Now,

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Speaker 3: so we didn't we didn't deal with that. You have

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Speaker 3: to be on a different pa. You had to be

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Speaker 3: a Vanilla Ice or mc hammer to get corporate sponsorship,

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Speaker 3: Hammer had Taco bell Man.

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Speaker 2: Come on, you know, I want to ask I got

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Speaker 2: two questions I wanted to ask you personally. But the

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Speaker 2: first one is about like the content and the music,

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Speaker 2: like you're saying, they saying, they making all these accusations

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Speaker 2: and stuff like that. But then also when you look

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Speaker 2: at you know, how like people be like, oh they

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Speaker 2: they telling them themselves and the records. Now the kids,

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Speaker 2: the kids, the young dudes is out here saying that

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Speaker 2: they shot Johnny and they really didn't shoot Johnny definitely,

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Speaker 2: but that was that was also kind of a thing

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Speaker 3: I mean because we were giving you well, you know

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Speaker 3: story of tales from the hood.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's still, but it's based on a true story.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, because I'm not dumb.

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Speaker 3: I'm not that dumb where I'm gonna be like me

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Speaker 3: and motherfucking Chill went through so and so and the

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Speaker 3: niggas was standing at Eddie's liquor store and Chill jumped

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Speaker 3: out with the deuce. Dudes popped the nigga knowing, damn well,

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Speaker 3: a week ago we pulled up at Eddie's Liquor and

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Speaker 3: gonna do is, I'm gonna tell you and everybody's hood,

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Speaker 3: somebody finna get popped. I'm telling you, if you slang dope,

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Speaker 3: you gonna probably go to jail. I'm telling you, niggas

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Speaker 3: who gang bang did drive bys?

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Speaker 2: You get me.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying little Tooty from my block nigga last

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Speaker 3: week jumped out on the nigga at the Burger stand

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Speaker 3: shot him with the thirty eight nigga blew his head off.

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Speaker 2: Into his mama house on Carling.

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Speaker 3: And Nigga, it's it's and the and I and I

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Speaker 3: feel like the way that hip hop is, you know.

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Speaker 2: As far as how that path is going.

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Speaker 3: It's because, like you said, rap has turned into the

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Speaker 3: whatever you want to call it, man, the new dope

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Speaker 3: game to hustle whatever whatever you want to say it is.

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Speaker 3: But it's a way for these the young homies now

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Speaker 3: to glorify the aspect of their identity where they're from.

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Speaker 3: You get me. We couldn't do that back then.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't.

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Speaker 3: I couldn't get on the record and say try New

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Speaker 3: Park so and so and so and so because the

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Speaker 3: Doing that wasn't making them money back then. It's making

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Speaker 3: money now because niggas then depended with it, and then

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Speaker 3: the niggas who get on it's like perfect. Look at him,

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Speaker 3: be a young boy, nigga. I'm gonna talk nigga.

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Speaker 4: Fuck you.

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Speaker 3: We came through Woompy wom Look at the niggas in

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Speaker 3: go in my kitchen and I'm gonna tell a nigga

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Speaker 3: I'm from so and so on, I'm from this and that.

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Speaker 3: We got to tou tou and womped because it's the

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Speaker 3: it's to solidify their identity. Now, you get me back,

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Speaker 3: then you had to rap. We had to rap to

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Speaker 3: prove your identity. Now all you gotta do is say

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Speaker 3: what nigga hit you bust? Or what nigga hit you

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Speaker 3: beefing with? Or what nigga we shot a nigga and

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Speaker 3: wompty wom that's the hip hop for that type of shit.

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Speaker 3: We tried to be you know, we tried to explain

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Speaker 3: nobody understood what was going on. Dumb motherfuckers thought we

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Speaker 4: You get me, that's what we have.

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Speaker 3: So it was more of us explaining what was going on.

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Speaker 2: You get me.

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Speaker 3: They know what the fuck is going on now they've

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Speaker 3: been seeing it for thirty years now.

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Speaker 1: It's profitable, Yeah, especially considering the fact like the King

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Speaker 1: von Kid, right, I believe he sold more records after

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Speaker 1: he died than when he was alive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's usually how it goes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Tupaca, Yeah, you know the gang problem. I mean

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Speaker 3: it's been around since the beginning, but it's so fascinating

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Speaker 3: when I look up right now because I said niggas

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Speaker 2: It's a gang if you look.

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Speaker 3: At the last five years, it's a a of these

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Speaker 3: this week, this nigga got and and it's fucked up

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Speaker 3: because it's associated hip or hip hop. Man, you get me.

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Speaker 3: Back then, that just would have been some gang killings

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Speaker 3: and ship.

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Speaker 2: Why you think that hip hop is so it's it's

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Speaker 2: synonymous with violence that way, because I don't, because don't.

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Speaker 2: I was just having this conversation on last week when

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Speaker 2: everything was going on my on my on my thread,

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Speaker 2: on my timeline. I was like, bro, people think hip

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Speaker 2: hop is violent? Have you ever listened to Corrido's music

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Speaker 2: like that met Domesican music?

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Speaker 3: Oh no, man, please, They saying, wow, nigga, they talk

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Speaker 3: the big narcos and man, please, why bang that ship?

435
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,120
Speaker 2: Why is hip hop the only way that it's looked

436
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 2: at like that? Like because as opposed to like country,

437
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 2: even some country songs and country songs. I heard a

438
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 2: couple of country music records on.

439
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 3: Music is Man. The Narco music is on point. But

440
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 3: I think it's because and we've always got the negative

441
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:13,640
Speaker 3: spin the black man and that's man. Come on, man,

442
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 3: we've always got the negatives. Just listen to what you

443
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 3: just said. I mean, they got mother for the essays nigga,

444
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:24,400
Speaker 3: they got bands, nigga, so and so they.

445
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 2: Came through it. Man.

446
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 3: I don't know if that makes a difference, because nigga

447
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 3: they treacherous. We talk about our gang life and ship.

448
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,199
Speaker 3: Narco's been treacherous.

449
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,159
Speaker 2: So maybe you could say it if it's in melody.

450
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 3: I think just I think because it's the nature of

451
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 3: the beasts. As far as the black man is concerned,

452
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,440
Speaker 3: we've always been looked at negatively when it comes to

453
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 3: the situations like that, and people aren't reminded enough that,

454
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 3: you know, gang culture.

455
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:58,119
Speaker 2: And all that shit. Nigga.

456
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 3: I watched the mob been al Capone and fucking Lefty

457
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 3: Luciano and all their motherfuckers.

458
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 4: That's what was game.

459
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 3: Even though they was calling themselves the mob, that was

460
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 3: gang shit.

461
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 2: To me.

462
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 3: It was money, it was drugs, protocol. It was niggas

463
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 3: getting politics. You get me, just like a street gang today,

464
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 3: you get me. We don't have a you know, some

465
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 3: niggas some do some gangs out of tears of the

466
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 3: leaders and the followers and the soldiers and all that.

467
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 3: But it's still I just think because it was Black

468
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 3: culture and we've always been looked at negatively when it

469
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 3: came to the streets.

470
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 2: Exactly was it like that? Though? Like was it like

471
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 2: that when when hip hop first came from New York? Like?

472
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 2: Cause I think the problem with that is we was

473
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 2: already hood niggas, so the music just came later.

474
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 3: It just came later, and then we still had niggas.

475
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 3: Like That's why I say West Coast music was different.

476
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 3: I mean, like I said, we had niggas like the

477
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 3: Wrecking Crew, and we had Bobby Jimmy and the Critters

478
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 3: and shit with you know, songs like that when but

479
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 3: the gang problems were still there. Before I heard my rap,

480
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 3: first rap record, it was niggas on the block, gang banging.

481
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 3: I still got five years old, niggas was drive by shooting,

482
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 3: you get me.

483
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 4: So before I even picked up a.

484
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 3: Microphone, I was gang banging. It was already in its existence.

485
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,120
Speaker 3: Hey had. And not to cut you off, I'm gonna

486
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:42,360
Speaker 3: say this. We had niggas like Mixed, Master Spade and

487
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,959
Speaker 3: Toddy T who gave us that type of music of

488
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 3: what was going on in the neighborhood. But I think

489
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 3: because of the gang culture that we had already established

490
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 3: on the West Coast is when when hip hop fell

491
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 3: into it. Just you know what I'm saying, when they

492
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 3: tell you to go from simmer to a boil, and

493
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 3: that's just what That's just what the fuck happened, You

494
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. We went from a light simmer

495
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 3: and to once once motherfucking crack came in and then

496
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 3: easy in them got to tell the niggas they were

497
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 3: straight out of Compton and and and the whole image

498
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 3: was getting broadcasted across the motherfucking world. Shit just got

499
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,360
Speaker 3: turned up, man, And it was just a different time.

500
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 3: Can you imagine we didn't even have the internet back then.

501
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 3: Oh that just came from kt AM radio station. Well

502
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 3: it's the only station that played I remember we would

503
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 3: play that station man from early in the morning to night.

504
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 1: You would hear easy E, you would hear king t,

505
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,880
Speaker 1: you hear miss mess Fade all day.

506
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 2: It was popping. Yeah, I couldn't imagine then.

507
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 3: I mean, it was just feeding us hip hop man,

508
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,360
Speaker 3: just like man fuck it. It was like, oh, now

509
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 3: we really got an identity. I mean because we was

510
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 3: already turned up banging Parliament and Atomic Dog and more

511
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 3: Bounce and shit like that in the hood. So when

512
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 3: you're throwing some now we got some Curtis Blow the Bang,

513
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:16,479
Speaker 3: and we got some motherfucking run DMC the Bang, and

514
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 3: then some Beastie Boys the Bang. It just it just

515
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 3: it made the notches go up higher because now niggas

516
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,479
Speaker 3: feeling like, oh, we got niggas speaking. And even though

517
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 3: them niggas was on the hip to hop shit and stale,

518
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 3: was like the way they was representing themselves, you get me,

519
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 3: niggas was they was nigga, the Jerry Curls nigga jumping

520
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 3: out of Cadillacs, Nigga with Dookie gold ropes on. It

521
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 3: still gave niggas the image of them niggas from the streets.

522
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 1: You get me, niggas wasn't the mother remember the damn

523
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,360
Speaker 1: right they played run DMC. But it was a lot

524
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 1: of parody back then because you would hear both. You

525
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 1: would hear like an EPMD record and for the because

526
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: it was like EPMB was a West Coast group.

527
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, we had a lot of that weird Al Yankovic

528
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 3: shit going on, like you said, parody records and ship.

529
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 1: It was like a lot of period like you would

530
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: have Bobby Jimmy and the critters, like look at all

531
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 1: these roaches. He would take a song and make it like.

532
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 2: A Yeah, they would.

533
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 4: They would flip rap a lot of stuff for.

534
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 2: A minute, doog.

535
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 1: West Coast hip hop was real embarrassing, But then it

536
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 1: was a lot of hot shit too, Like King Tinam had.

537
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 3: A cracking your T like I said, Tela had a

538
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 3: cracking uh Spade, Toddy T, Nick Master Ken, they had

539
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 3: it cracking on the aspect of we knew that hip

540
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 3: hop wasn't just my Adidas and my Lee jeans and

541
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 3: you know, push it and you get me, like we

542
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 3: knew that it wasn't like friendly rap you get me.

543
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 2: As an aggression to it.

544
00:28:55,960 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 3: We were we knew that ship, but we still played

545
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 3: motherfucking that type of shit because that's what what was

546
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 3: floating around.

547
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: Hey, let me ask you something, man, it could be

548
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: kind of controversial when you you were on a major

549
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: radio station out here.

550
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and.

551
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: You know, everything at radio is about the bottom line,

552
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: is with testing, what's calling out? You know, I think

553
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: people searching records all that.

554
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

555
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: I think people just think, oh man, they played the record. No,

556
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: it's a lot of thought that goes in there.

557
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 2: You know, it's saying it's protocols.

558
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you know, like you just can't go up

559
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: there and play any record that you're want to.

560
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 2: Do. You think that system is flawed, yes, but it's

561
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 2: not flow. So here's the thing about radio. And I

562
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 2: was at iHeart for seven years and I just left

563
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 2: what last year or two years ago? I've been going

564
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 2: that damn. So yeah, I've been going two years now.

565
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 2: I left. But the thing about radio that people misconstrued

566
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 2: and they think radio is not no matter. Now this

567
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 2: is gonna sound really bad, and I probably shouldn't say this,

568
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 2: but radio is not what they mark get it to

569
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 2: you as like oh this is the people station or

570
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 2: oh this is for us by That's not what it is.

571
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 2: The radio is just like any of the business. It's

572
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 2: a business, and their job is to generate revenue. Right

573
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 2: So in the and and their business motto is to

574
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 2: sell advertising. So just like if you have a podcast

575
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 2: or you have a YouTube and there's an ad that

576
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 2: pops up, that's all the radio is there to do

577
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 2: is to generate those ad those ad impressions. Right. So

578
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 2: they want to they want you to hear that car dealership.

579
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 2: They want you to hear that soft drink that they sell.

580
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 3: Or whatever that that two pays, whatever they're selling, right.

581
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,479
Speaker 2: So the way the system is set up it is

582
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 2: to incentivize people to hear as many advertisements as possible.

583
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 2: With that being said, that's why they play the most

584
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 2: popular songs in the world or in the country. Because

585
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 2: if you are a bit if you if you have

586
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 2: a podcast, if you own the Gangster Chronicles podcasts, and

587
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 2: you know that there's going to be a million people

588
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 2: listening to this Drake record, you want your podcast advertisement

589
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 2: to come right after that drink record, not after an unknown,

590
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 2: big steal record that nobody heard. Because you're gonna get

591
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,719
Speaker 2: you're gonna minimize the amount of people listening. That's all

592
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 2: the radio is it's not really rocket science. And then

593
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 2: when it comes to the DJs and the radio personalities

594
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 2: playing what they want, it's not just protocols, but and

595
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 2: the protocol is you can't just play whatever you want.

596
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 2: It's not your shit. It's not that, it's that, it's

597
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 2: not that, just like I don't know. That's how I

598
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 2: know that a lot of people didn't. Wasn't raised right

599
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 2: whenever I have conversations about radio, because I don't know

600
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 2: how y'all grew up. I can just go in the

601
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 2: kitchen and just take whatever I want. This is not

602
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 2: your kitchen. My mom is. I pay the bills here,

603
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 2: This is my refrigerator, This is my food. You come

604
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 2: to me and you see and now I might let

605
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 2: you get at this off a couple of times, but

606
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 2: this ain't finna be every day you in here just

607
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 2: taking whatever you want, the fruit snacks, the Graham crackers

608
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 2: or whatever fruit snacks the first day.

609
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 3: Goddamn right, So long story short, Always trying to explain

610
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 3: to people like when you are talking to radio per

611
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 3: personalities and DJs approach you from a standpoint of they

612
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 3: have to check what they with whoever they superior is

613
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 3: before they can.

614
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 2: Play what they want to play, not only that you can't.

615
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 2: I'm not I shouldn't say this, but I'm gonna say

616
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:16,719
Speaker 2: it anyway. Whenever a DJ, a lot of DJs, especially

617
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 2: here in LA, I'm gonna say this here. I was

618
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 2: gonna wait to say this publicly, but a lot of

619
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 2: you DJ's in LA I got a problem with. And

620
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 2: I got a problem with y'all because either one, you

621
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 2: don't care about people, or to you ignorant. Either way,

622
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 2: it's a problem. You don't care about people because you're

623
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,719
Speaker 2: not doing them a service by running and playing their

624
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 2: record on the radio. And two you either ignorant because

625
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 2: you don't know that that doesn't benefit them. There's a

626
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 2: system called media Base. Media Base monitors all the radio stations,

627
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 2: and you get credit whenever somebody plays your song on

628
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 2: the radio. If Big Still make a record, or if

629
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 2: Blasts make a record, or if Todd Alla sign give

630
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 2: me a record right now, we in the studio and

631
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 2: I run them to the rail station, I play it.

632
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 2: That's not gonna benefit him because it's not registered in

633
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 2: the system, so he gets credit for it, so he

634
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 2: can't get paid for it. It's not monetized, right, So

635
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 2: when a DJ. I'm not gonna say names, but when

636
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 2: DJs be like, oh, this is the new so and so,

637
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 2: it's hottest in the streets, you're not doing that person

638
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 2: of service by playing that record on the radio. You're

639
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 2: actually hurting them because they're not getting paid on that

640
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 2: record number one and number two once you run it

641
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 2: up a certain amount of spins. Let's say you get

642
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 2: to one hundred and fifty spins in LA. You're playing

643
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 2: this record on the radio. Now, the record is supposed

644
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 2: to go to research, and research means that they test

645
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 2: the record in the market. They do various ways of

646
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 2: testing the record. They go out and they test it

647
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 2: amongst the people, and if you get a positive score,

648
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 2: they keep it on the radio. If you get a

649
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 2: negative score, they take it off the radio. I've been there.

650
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 2: I've literally been at work doing my show and my

651
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 2: boss came in and told me like, Hey, you know

652
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 2: that song that we've been playing forty times a week,

653
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 2: your Homeboy, that we've been playing forty times a week,

654
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 2: this song not registered. I'm like, what you mean. It's

655
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 2: nowhere to be found. It's not on Apple, it's not

656
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 2: on Spotify, it's not on sound It's only exists on SoundCloud.

657
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 2: Pull it out now, you don't get you don't get

658
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 2: a second chance on that record, your shot, right. I've

659
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 2: seen these people pull a Beyonce record after she did

660
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,879
Speaker 2: the super Bowl. Yeah that record not testing? Well, pull

661
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 2: that out. It's Beyonce, So you know what I'm saying.

662
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 2: So people be taking it personal like it's like, oh,

663
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 2: you don't fuck with me, and no, no, I actually

664
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 2: do fuck with your Shout out to little dudes too

665
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 2: from Inglewood because he actually called me a couple of

666
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,919
Speaker 2: years later and said that he appreciated me for giving

667
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 2: him that game. But a lot of people ain't sharing

668
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 2: that information. You know how many people are defended you

669
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,280
Speaker 2: from man. I can imagine people think I'm an asshole.

670
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 2: I can be, but I don't do what you want

671
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 2: me to do. I do what's best for you. I'm

672
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 2: not gonna tell you I like your song. If I

673
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 2: think it's trash, I'm not gonna go advocate for your record.

674
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna go advocate for your record in these

675
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,399
Speaker 2: buildings with these white people because I know what they're

676
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 2: looking for.

677
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 3: So what do you call those people who do that?

678
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 3: Because you got a lot of those that won't give

679
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 3: that now. I'm just gonna be honest. Man, it's not

680
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,439
Speaker 3: a good record, it's not a good song.

681
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 2: What do I call those people?

682
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.

683
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 2: I just I'm me.

684
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 3: I don't It's a lot of those though, you get me.

685
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 3: There's a lot of records that shouldn't even see the

686
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 3: light of day. But you got a lot of code

687
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 3: signers and a lot of motherfuckers who go, oh no, man,

688
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 3: that motherfucker hard at fuck.

689
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,240
Speaker 2: Let's roll with that. You know what I told the homie, Sorry,

690
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 2: you know what I told the homie about that. The

691
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 2: hommy was like, you know, man, you just be hating.

692
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 2: I'm like really, He's like, yeah, you the problem. I said, Okay,

693
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 2: let me paint a picture for you then, bro, Since

694
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 2: I'm the problem, right, because I'm the gatekeeper and I'm

695
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,280
Speaker 2: the one that's stopping you from eating by not playing

696
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 2: your song on the radio, not knowing that you get

697
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 2: less than you get a third of a penny for

698
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 2: every time you get played on the radio. But since

699
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 2: I'm holding you back in life, let me give you

700
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 2: some game. You went to the studio because you don't

701
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 2: record in the house. You go to a studio, you

702
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 2: went to the studio. At the studio, there was a producer,

703
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 2: there was an engineer, there was four girls. That's six people,

704
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 2: right there was that's six people. Then on top of

705
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 2: that you had three of the homies there. That's nine people.

706
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,760
Speaker 2: After that you got the song mixed. That's another person.

707
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 2: That's ten people. Then when it got mastered, that's eleven people.

708
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 2: So you mean to tell me that this song was

709
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 2: trashed through eleven other people, and because I told you

710
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 2: it was trash, I'm the asshole. That's not crazy. You

711
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 2: know what the problem is.

712
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 3: All of me is them ten before you. It's telling

713
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 3: the nigga that is whole.

714
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 2: That's what I was gonna say, that's the problem. That's

715
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 2: what I'm trying to tell I'm not the problem.

716
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: Nobody gets honest. Now, I don't exactly just be an.

717
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: I'm not exactly an asshole all the time. If I

718
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: hear a record and it's not a good record, I

719
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: can steal somebody. You need to go back to the before. Yeah,

720
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 1: for sure, I have no problem. Yeah, I've heard them.

721
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 4: Like nigga that don't sound good.

722
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: You gotta remember eight I was a and R man.

723
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: I actually had an a and r job And I'm gonna

724
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: tell you. When I first took the position, it was

725
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: hard telling somebody that they ship was trash. You know,

726
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: I wanted to be nicecause some of the people are

727
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: actually cool people. What would you tell them?

728
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 3: But after a while I would say, I know, you

729
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 3: wouldn't say it was trash.

730
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: I would try to tell them because I heard two

731
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: types of trash. It was two types of trash, right,

732
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: it was two types of trash. You would have a person, yeah,

733
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: but you would have you would actually have a person.

734
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: You would actually have an artist that may have had talent,

735
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 1: but they just had bad production. The hook game might

736
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 1: have been. You know, you could tell they still needed

737
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: some more development, right, those people, I would kind of

738
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 1: spend time and tell them, hey, you need to do this,

739
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 1: and I would refirm like I would send people over

740
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: the fingers moaning fingers hot at the time. I would say, man,

741
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: you just need to beat your producer and good. You

742
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: just need to go get you a producer, you know,

743
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: go holler at fingers or you had the people that

744
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: didn't have no talent, didn't have none. You would be

745
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 1: looking at them like why would you go to and

746
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: what was funny. You got those two different dynamics, right,

747
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: You got the one person that got talent but can't

748
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: afford in the studio time, and you got motherfucker is trash.

749
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: And it seemed like he got unlimited resource. He got

750
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: a thirty thousand dollars music video with it. He bought

751
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,479
Speaker 1: some tracks from Scott Storks. He on bought a verse

752
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: from this person. And you hear the record, and what

753
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: they make the mistake and do is they'll put the

754
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: feature that they brought first. Right, So you hear this

755
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: jam and ass beat, you hear feet like, yeah, this

756
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: is hard. Then he come on and it's like, broh,

757
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: you just went on to waste all this money on

758
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: this record. That's not good man, it's not a good record.

759
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: I had no problem telling nobody shit. I didn't have

760
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: a problem telling people that they shit was trash.

761
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,919
Speaker 2: Well, do you know what's interesting about that? I used

762
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 2: to I've never had a problem with that. I mean,

763
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 2: you know that like me and you have had that

764
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 2: conversation before. But I've never had a problem telling people

765
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 2: that their music was trash. What I have a problem

766
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 2: with is them having a problem with me after they

767
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 2: asked me, yeah, you can't ask me something and then

768
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 2: be mad at my answer. You if you request information

769
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 2: and I give you information, you then can't be mad

770
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 2: at the information I gave you because I didn't walk

771
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 2: in the studio and be like, you know't ate that

772
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 2: that record trash bro. You Now, if you asked me

773
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 2: and you say, hey, what's your nigga about this?

774
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 4: Man?

775
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 2: That shit garbage, you can't be mad because you asked me, right,

776
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 2: stuff that makes it.

777
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, some people are real sensitive when they kind.

778
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: Of people needed to stop being so fucking sensitive though

779
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen, nah, especially doing music. H You

780
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: you've had a successful music career. I ain't gonna say

781
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 1: ad because that's pair you're still selling records. You had

782
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 1: people that didn't like your music, right, oh all the time.

783
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Music is so subjective, and that's

784
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: what I would tell people at the end of the day. Look,

785
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: I don't like it, man, but I've heard work ship

786
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: going to you know, going to do it incredible shit.

787
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 2: When I first heard them, I ain't even gonna do that.

788
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 4: Man, put it out there.

789
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 3: It is because listen, a gang of shit is trash

790
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 3: today and you see motherfucker's selling a gang out of it, Like,

791
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 3: come on, there's a lot of trash that's out right now,

792
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 3: but it's pushed like it's the number one ship going.

793
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm gonna tell you, man, is that just.

794
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 4: Because mother I don't want to say this.

795
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 3: Man, motherfuckers have the resources to force feed you.

796
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you there was a girl that was

797
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 1: a singer. I'm not gonna say her name because she

798
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 1: was huge, especially on the West coast.

799
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 2: Because we're gonna figure that ship out in a minute.

800
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 2: It's thing.

801
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: You know, she wasn't the prettiest girl, and you know

802
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 1: she wasn't. I ain't gonna say she was ugly. Well,

803
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: she didn't.

804
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 2: Look like a star.

805
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 4: What she was about what a four?

806
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: She was about a four or five and she had

807
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 1: these big, huge records. Dog, And I would be like,

808
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: I remember her name though, but I'm not gonna say it.

809
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 2: Dog. But that ship was a truth. No, I say

810
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 2: it's initials.

811
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 4: It was the name of one of the songs.

812
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 2: The initials.

813
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: I said, like this first name begins with ah.

814
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 4: You just did it right there. Somebody gonna figure that

815
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 4: ship and.

816
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 1: Their primary markt was like the Ox Gnar Baker's Field

817
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: all that stuff.

818
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 2: It played like because she was a Mexican girl.

819
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 3: Okay, you just keep writing, put it out there, yeah,

820
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 3: walk it down, but walk it down.

821
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: It was pretty bad and people thought this ship was amazing.

822
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: And you can't say that because you looked like a

823
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 1: motherfucking hater saying something. She's selling out, Jen ughs And

824
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: I be like, man, something must be wrong with me.

825
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 2: I just don't see it.

826
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 3: Think sometimes that be the culture of who the people are.

827
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 3: When you just said she was a Spanish chick, they

828
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 3: support they motherfucking people.

829
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 2: No.

830
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm gonna tell you I don't think race

831
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: had nothing. I don't think race has nothing to do

832
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: with talent because I've heard some Mexican girls that they're tight.

833
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: They gotta hit records. You know the Homi beer shot.

834
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: He don't send me shitting out? Why this shit is amazing?

835
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 2: It was tight? Good is good? Bad?

836
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,399
Speaker 1: It is bad, bro. But I'm gonna tell you this.

837
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,879
Speaker 1: Nowadays it's well, you know what, and it's been that way.

838
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna say nowadays. Radio has always been about

839
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 1: money for independent artists. If you've seen the independent artist

840
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: that was getting the record paid five hundred and six

841
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: hundred times a week. It was some money being paid

842
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: for that dog. You have to after a while, I

843
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: can say this not because I don't give a fuck

844
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: about no radio station playing my record. I remember I

845
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 1: was promoting the record, right, and we went on a

846
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 1: promo run, and I know I spent the gang of money.

847
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: I spent like thirty thousand dollars a dog. That's a

848
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 1: lot of money. And I was about like up to

849
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: like two hundred and fifty three hundred spins a week, right,

850
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: And I kept noticing in the orders to sustain the

851
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: record and keep them playing it, I kept having to

852
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: paid pread dog. Kept had to pay fucking money.

853
00:42:58,680 --> 00:42:58,919
Speaker 2: Dog.

854
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: And then I learned the hard way because somebody told me,

855
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: because to see at least in a rhythmic market that's

856
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: the West Coast, you know what I mean, Like the

857
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: c CHR stations, the rhythmic stations, right, they all have

858
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: a mixed show format, you feel.

859
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 2: What I'm saying.

860
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 1: So I was collecting a lot of spins like that, right,

861
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 1: I had somebody that was about to add my record,

862
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: and instead of my dumb ass just being happy with

863
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: the you know, mixed show action, I was getting I

864
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: paid money and the PD got fired the next day.

865
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: But I can say this is because this in their defense,

866
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 1: I didn't physically give the program the record of the money.

867
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: I gave it to the promoter that was with me,

868
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: the laders of the promoter, and I got up and

869
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 1: went to the bathroom. And that's I assume they did

870
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: whatever they did, right. This shit really go down dog

871
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: like that. So my record is playing, I'm added, man,

872
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: I'm going on the way back to the crib. They

873
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: played that motherfucker three or four times before I could

874
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: get the motherfucking grapevine. Good right. So I get a

875
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: call the next I'm not gonna say the man's name,

876
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 1: but he tells me your days of getting played at

877
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: my stations without going through me are over. Buddy, I

878
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: don't know who you think you are. And it tripped

879
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 1: me to fuss and who is this he wanted to cut?

880
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: You don't go through nobody else without going through.

881
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 2: I'm talking about. I have no idea what you're talking about. Yeah,

882
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 2: keep it that way.

883
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 4: You got damn right, dude.

884
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: Was I'm not gonna say his name because he's a

885
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: powerful motherfucker, right, And it let me know right there

886
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: that this shit is rigged.

887
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 3: Org Man, the homie was was expressing his, uh, his

888
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 3: opinions about that to me.

889
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 4: This morning.

890
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 3: The craziness about because you know, he's one of those

891
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 3: cats who you know, tried to get in back in

892
00:44:55,640 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 3: the days, you know, when everybody was coming out, and

893
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 3: and he was real offended to buy the fact that,

894
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 3: like you said, it's supposed to be for the people,

895
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 3: supposed to be for you. You supposed to be for

896
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 3: the average motherfucker. You should be if motherfucker, if you

897
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 3: win into the studio and cut you a motherfucker record,

898
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,280
Speaker 3: you should be able to get it played on the radio,

899
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 3: because it's the station is supposed to be for the people.

900
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 3: You give me, And so he was real upset about

901
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 3: the payola shit you get me, I could get my

902
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 3: radio record on the radio, or niggas want to disc

903
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 3: It seems like you pay your motherfucker, you get on

904
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 3: the mix show, and the next thing you know, motherfucker like, oh,

905
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 3: you want to play next week or you want to

906
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 3: play the week after. It's like you just keep forking money,

907
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 3: keep forking money.

908
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,720
Speaker 1: Just to clarify some I want to clarify something, parl

909
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: One on six played my record a lot. I never

910
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 1: once gave him a dine. It wouldn't like that.

911
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 2: You know.

912
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 1: What I noticed is the smaller stations, But those are

913
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: the ones where you get expians from right. Because Power

914
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: is only gonna play you. You gotta test good at

915
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 1: the powers and at the you know, the big bigger

916
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: radio stations, the k's now and stuff like that. It

917
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 1: ain't just like they just up. They just in people's

918
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: pockets off the rip like that. But it is a dirty.

919
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 3: Game, no, I mean share. I guess that's why I

920
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 3: never focused on radio. Uh my career, my label never

921
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 3: took that route. They didn't have to get Nigga. I

922
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 3: didn't get songs played on the radio.

923
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 1: That's what they didn't have to. But that's what I'm saying.

924
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: But you was going out selling the gold album. They

925
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 1: look at it like this, this motherfucker go go go.

926
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:45,879
Speaker 1: We ain't gotta do shit.

927
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't get radio play. They that was one

928
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 3: thing that Epic did not do. We're not going for

929
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 3: no radio with MC eight, So that was something I

930
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 3: never even I It never pressured me either to go, I.

931
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 2: Need to make a radio song.

932
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,720
Speaker 3: You get me because I already knew that they wasn't

933
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 3: going to radio with my records.

934
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: Bro it was cheap. It was cheap to make your album.

935
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: It's not like they had to call in a band

936
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: and you had tick and slipping them.

937
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 4: That was it.

938
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: You know, do your record and they go make eight

939
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: nine million dollars. I'll be with that too. It's a

940
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 1: perfect business model. Ship Man going to give them some

941
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: more money and let him go do his thing. We

942
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: could be profitable. It's profitable, you know. Yeah. But like

943
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 1: I said, I never I never made music. I felt

944
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 1: was gonna make radio anyway. So from the start of

945
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: my career it never fucked with me. I never got

946
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 1: in the studio and had the pressure from Epic to go.

947
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 3: We need another radio single, we need another radio song,

948
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 3: because that's pressure you get me. So, like a, I

949
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 3: didn't have to deal with that. Ship Hey, Hey, let

950
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 3: me ask you something. Bro Bear called me. Bears the

951
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 3: program director the programs a lot of radio stations. To

952
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 3: my god, he called me one day and said, Man,

953
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you who gonna be the man in

954
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 3: l A. And he's a man. He has to be

955
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 3: the one to move our culture forward. You have to

956
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 3: DJ Head and I can start laughing. I said, Man,

957
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 3: you gotta be fucking killing that motherfucker.

958
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 2: Ain't shit.

959
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 1: I'm just playing. But he told me that. Man, And

960
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: on top of that, I started getting a lot of

961
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 1: the little rapper home. He's complaining, Man, Nigga Head is

962
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: a hater. That nigga told me that. I said, well, man,

963
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: if you asked him something, he can tell you the truth.

964
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 1: You should respect that. Now I'm tell in the artists,

965
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: you should respect the dude that tells.

966
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 2: You the truth. The dude that just let you keep

967
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 2: going making a fool out of yourself. It's not your friend.

968
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 2: I'm always gonna tell you got some in your teeth,

969
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you got a booger in your nose,

970
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna tell you if your song is whack,

971
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 2: it's not. It's no different to me than than when

972
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 2: you're about to lead a house and your your you know,

973
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 2: your your boxers is showing or you know. It's the

974
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 2: same thing to me, and and it took to be

975
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 2: honest with you. Where that comes from. Yeah, that's my personality.

976
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 2: That's how I grew up. But it also comes from

977
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 2: us not having at like nobody really helped us like that,

978
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 2: not in that way. Either they didn't know and they

979
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 2: didn't give us the information, or they had the information.

980
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 2: And the game is to be sold and not to

981
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 2: be the I don't subscribed to none of that shit,

982
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 2: because that's how we our people stay ignorant, that's how

983
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 2: people stay down. You can't find one person in the

984
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 2: music business that ever gave me a check to do anything,

985
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 2: play a play a record for consultations. I pull up

986
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 2: the Nigga studios for free. I've never taken money. I've

987
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 2: gotten co production on at least three hit records that

988
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 2: that never took points on the album. That's a fact, right. So,

989
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 2: but that's my contribution. And the only fee is for

990
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 2: me to be myself and to be honest. That's my fee.

991
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 2: I'm not willing to budget my fee. So if you

992
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 2: want my assistance, Oh, we need to figure out how

993
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 2: we're gonna get on this festival. Hey, can you help us?

994
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 2: Oh we need to figure out how we gonna get

995
00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 2: on the radio head Can you help us? Yeah? What

996
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 2: you need nothing. I just need the space to be honest.

997
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 2: That's it. That's my feet and honesty is a rarity. Nowadays. Bro.

998
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 2: So then when you look at people who take that offensively,

999
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 2: I actually I don't even want to work with those

1000
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 2: people at all. I don't want to be around them

1001
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 2: out because that tells me that you're not even in

1002
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 2: the space to receive what you're asking for if you ask.

1003
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 2: I'm a spiritual person, So if you ask God to

1004
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,720
Speaker 2: bless you, but you know you ain't in the space

1005
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:27,479
Speaker 2: to receive, then you wasting God's time.

1006
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a prime example of constructive criticism

1007
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: working in the positive manner.

1008
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 2: Right.

1009
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 1: I talk about top Dog here and there at my

1010
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: homie that you know run tde and here you know

1011
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:45,879
Speaker 1: this you was around too early days. We go back

1012
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 1: with them dudes, like when they was back there record

1013
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: and when it wasn't no Kendrick Lamar being a top

1014
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,839
Speaker 1: rapper in the world. They just some congree kids, right.

1015
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 1: I remember Man, so many people. Man would sleep on

1016
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: top and he would be mad at first, you know,

1017
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,479
Speaker 1: Tom would be ready to destroy some shit, but after

1018
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 1: a while he started kind of just taking it to face, like, well,

1019
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 1: maybe this shit ain't what I thought it was. And

1020
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: they started actually making really like it left it was

1021
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 1: already cool but they leveled up to where the records

1022
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 1: was underniped.

1023
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 3: So what do you think that was? Was it the

1024
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,720
Speaker 3: talent or they just wasn't ready or well.

1025
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 1: They were always talented, right, I just think they hadn't

1026
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: made the right records yet. You know, sometimes this level

1027
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: was to it. They were definitely dope enough to where

1028
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 1: that's when the bloggers started cracking a little bit where

1029
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 1: the bloggers took notice of them. But they didn't necessarily

1030
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 1: have no that big record. Like even though eight you

1031
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,959
Speaker 1: ain't never had no top forty record, you was able

1032
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: to go in and produce a straight up minutes ain't

1033
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 1: going the road. They hadn't got to that point. Shit,

1034
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 1: it was still a lot. Jay Rock was hard as

1035
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,919
Speaker 1: a motherfucker. Jay Rock was tight. Jay Rock, he was tight.

1036
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:56,959
Speaker 1: Every last one of them dudes over at td ether

1037
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: rap can rap all of them dudes.

1038
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,760
Speaker 2: Can school Boy C make pop music?

1039
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 1: Now that's because he's a professional recording or that's a

1040
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: laying he in, but he can rap. Ab Sol Lo

1041
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: My god, I knew I'd get murdered if I say it,

1042
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: but ab Sol might be the coldest motherfucker over there.

1043
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: They got dudes, they can really rap. You feel what

1044
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm talking about and it's not easy to

1045
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 1: impress me. Hey, you gotta remember the era we came

1046
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 1: up in. I came up on you, scarface nas. All

1047
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: of these just grade them seas Big Daddy Kane, Chuck

1048
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: d people that were one of the ones. We wasn't

1049
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 1: nobody to sounded like them before. They just came out

1050
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 1: that they were the first of they kind.

1051
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 2: You feel what I mean.

1052
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 1: So I've heard some incredible motherfuckers cool she rap. It's

1053
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: some motherfuckers that could spit Ray Kwan, the chef you know,

1054
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: on to the day to the Homi Black thought, there's

1055
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: some guys that can rap them. Dudes can really rap

1056
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: over there, And I really think they got to the

1057
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: place to where they had been getting slept on. Was

1058
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 1: so bad. Wasn't nothing going right for me. But this

1059
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: motherfucker said, we just gonna make undeniable records. Top used

1060
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 1: to be on them dudes' ass, man, I know it wasn't.

1061
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:13,280
Speaker 1: He didn't allow them to play no games.

1062
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 2: I just talked to talk about that.

1063
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: He didn't allow them to play no games. Dog, And

1064
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 1: I saw the homie lose a lot of money on

1065
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 1: fake tours. You know, when you're trying to when you're

1066
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 1: trying to get something going, you're gonna do whatever you

1067
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: got to, right, And I saw that that he was

1068
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: with and I think Top was to the point one

1069
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: night man to where I think he was at that

1070
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: point where he was like, I'm tired of motherfucker's playing

1071
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 1: with me. But they did it though, Dog, That's why.

1072
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 1: So that's why I salute them, because I know what

1073
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,879
Speaker 1: they went through. All of them dudes thugged it out, dog,

1074
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: and they stayed down with each other.

1075
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 2: No, I agree with you. I know hell of stories,

1076
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 2: but I think that if so. I remember glads To

1077
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 2: said something to me one day we was driving and

1078
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 2: you know, like, you know how when you go y'all,

1079
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 2: I would notice. But you know how when you on

1080
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 2: your way to the west Side from the east Side,

1081
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 2: you on the one on one, one O five and

1082
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 2: you're about to get that go on that overpass where

1083
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 2: they film speed at going to the one ten or

1084
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 2: you know that big overpass, see the whole east side

1085
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 2: right there off Broadway. So we's on that overpass and

1086
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 2: we're going over there, and that was when that light

1087
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 2: was on right there, so we stopped at the light

1088
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 2: and he was like, listen ahead, caush. He's like, if

1089
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 2: you want something that's gonna change your life forever, why

1090
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 2: would it take anything less than a lifetime to get it?

1091
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 2: And I was like, damn, that's that's set with me.

1092
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I've been thinking about that

1093
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,800
Speaker 2: ship was twelve years now. He told me that twelve

1094
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 2: years ago. But I remember where I was. I was

1095
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 2: sitting in the passenger seat of the Bendley and I

1096
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 2: remember that. Like but I was like, Okay, so this

1097
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 2: is gonna this is a long play. This ain't a

1098
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 2: quick flip to go back to your point in what

1099
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 2: you said earlier. I think everybody coming up now, they're

1100
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 2: looking at it like a quick flip, like this a lit,

1101
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 2: like hip hop is to me, is not a lit,

1102
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 2: not at all. Rap music the music industry. It's not

1103
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 2: a lick. It's not a quick flip. Like so I

1104
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 2: take it personal sometimes when even when I shouldn't, when

1105
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:08,399
Speaker 2: people play with it.

1106
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:09,919
Speaker 4: Like that, oh definitely does.

1107
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 2: Hip hop saved a lot of our lives. Hip Hop

1108
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 2: and changed a lot of our families, and like, you know,

1109
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 2: just different things like that where when people play with it.

1110
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,839
Speaker 1: I feel like you're not respecting it. I'm gonna say

1111
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 1: some head. It was a time a long time ago, dog.

1112
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember this. I just lost

1113
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,359
Speaker 1: my I lost, but I had been lost my job

1114
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: of mind of music, and I was refusing to go

1115
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:31,879
Speaker 1: get my assma the job.

1116
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 2: Dog.

1117
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:35,280
Speaker 1: I got used to having that cush music industry job. Yeah,

1118
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 1: and I was broke then. The motherfucker remember me and

1119
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 1: you was standing on the corner about Lake will Boulevard, dog,

1120
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,280
Speaker 1: trying to piece up to go get some fucking cheeseburgers,

1121
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: A real fucking story, and I look at his dog.

1122
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 1: Ain't nothing in this motherfucker no overnight. I do remember that.

1123
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,879
Speaker 2: Ain't. Don't nothing happen overnight, man. And I definitely think

1124
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:53,439
Speaker 2: that we split the chili cheese frog.

1125
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:58,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely think in today's era, man, people don't

1126
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 1: want to grind for shit. But I want to get

1127
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 1: back to this rap shit a little bit.

1128
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 2: Dog.

1129
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 1: This is one thing I will say. I believe Kendrick

1130
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:08,919
Speaker 1: were all way out, but I'm gonna leave it alone.

1131
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to something. But I didn't think that

1132
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,840
Speaker 1: was necessarily no battle in the specific sense you know what.

1133
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: I went back and listened to just to make sure

1134
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 1: I wasn't tripping. I went back and listened to What's

1135
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 1: Old what's the motherfucker's name? Kars One? When he was

1136
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 1: dis and meally mailed and.

1137
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,399
Speaker 2: All of them.

1138
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 4: It was just straight rap. You feel what I'm saying.

1139
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 2: It was just rap.

1140
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 1: It's like, now, man, you gotta get so personal with it.

1141
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if I necessarily like the whole this

1142
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 1: and shit, dog, because you just got to get too personal.

1143
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 2: Now.

1144
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm talking to both of y'all, but it just

1145
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 1: got and I think that that ship was a part

1146
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: of it. Dog, I think the whole thing motherfucker's teaming

1147
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 1: up to write some shit about a nigga. You feel

1148
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's like, like, what is this ship becoming?

1149
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: I think all that shit started back back during over times.

1150
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna let him so what I think.

1151
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 2: I just talked shop to my dude, Wayno. I was

1152
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 2: talking to Wayno and he called me. He called me

1153
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 2: when everything was going down and I was in the middle.

1154
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 2: He's like, hey, you know what ahead He's like, I

1155
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 2: just realized something. As I'm getting older, I'm no longer

1156
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 2: arguing with niggas who ain't never been punched in their mouth.

1157
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 2: And I was like, that made perfect sense to me

1158
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 2: because like, I've been punched in my mouth. So but

1159
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 2: it's a different type of it's a different when you

1160
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 2: move different when you've been confronted about something you have said.

1161
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 2: Just like just like when you you say something and

1162
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,439
Speaker 2: I think to what you just said, Like, I think

1163
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 2: that's the point. A lot of people ain't never had

1164
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 2: to deal with the ship that they say, Like, if

1165
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 2: somebody diss your hood, they gotta deal with that either

1166
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 2: they running to you, they running homies, or they might

1167
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 2: or they might violate to the point where they own homies. Like, man,

1168
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 2: you're talking to eight like them and come to the hood.

1169
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 4: Exactly what I'm saying.

1170
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 2: A lot of people don't have don't don't have to

1171
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 2: deal with that. You you specifically you g like all

1172
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 2: these different people who I know if I tweet some

1173
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,919
Speaker 2: wild ship and I just tweeted I posted on my Instagram,

1174
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 2: either you gonna call me, g gonna call somebody, gonna

1175
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 2: call my phone like you, That's what the difference is

1176
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 2: is checks and balances to this ship. And I don't

1177
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 2: think that that exists no more, which is why you

1178
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 2: could just say whatever you want to say about somebody.

1179
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 2: And because you ain't got to see him. I'm in

1180
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 2: I'm in New Jersey, in a house, in a random

1181
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 2: house in New Jersey, and I go on the internet, man,

1182
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 2: man eight is this and that, and he, you know,

1183
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 2: just disrespecting you. And now you ain't never gonna see

1184
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 2: me because I ain't never go out. I don't go outside,

1185
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 2: I don't go to the I don't go to the functions,

1186
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 2: I don't go to no podcast stuff. So you ain't

1187
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 2: You ain't gotta deal with that, so you can say

1188
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 2: whatever you want to say.

1189
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm, Yeah, that's a lot of that goes on.

1190
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 3: Now you got you got, you got interstate this, and

1191
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 3: right now interste Beef and niggas ain't never seen each

1192
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 3: other before. Just get on the fucking fuck that nigga. Man,

1193
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 3: my shit is more harder than them and we are,

1194
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 3: so we just gonna start dissing the nigga and whatever

1195
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 3: it's become out of the context of.

1196
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 4: Nigga.

1197
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 3: I'm I'm dissing you because my lyrical skills.

1198
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 4: Are superior, top notch.

1199
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 2: You give me I ain't disrespecting.

1200
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 3: I'm not dissing you because you from New Jersey or

1201
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 3: South Carolina. I ain't dissing you because you said, nigga,

1202
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 3: you you you took five fifteen shots out of nigger y'all.

1203
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 3: That that's the I'm dissing you because my lyrics are hard. Nigga,

1204
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 3: I'm the hard. Yeah, yeah, that that's not it.

1205
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 1: I heard about the money these niggas was spending on

1206
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 1: that ship to get information.

1207
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 2: Dog, Well yeah, it's crazy. You might for run to

1208
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 2: spend a couple hundred thousand ricks.

1209
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 3: Brax, it's become a become a criminal investigation.

1210
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:00,080
Speaker 4: You might well be on try.

1211
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 3: I need to go to hire me a couple of

1212
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 3: motherfucking investigators and have a nigga jump on the plane.

1213
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 4: I need to know what I need to know.

1214
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 3: If a nigga shitted his pants in the third grade,

1215
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 3: it's so cool, like what I I need the dog,

1216
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 3: if a nigga was pissing in the bed when he

1217
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 3: was seven years old, and some ship.

1218
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 2: Like that, so I would go, I would go fire.

1219
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 3: The long distance hater cousin that the nigga old fuck with.

1220
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 3: Now pay that nigga a couple of grand What that

1221
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 3: nigga do used to do when he was five. He

1222
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 3: used to take boggers out his nose and put a bit.

1223
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 4: I wouldn't go at all.

1224
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 3: It's it's criminal investigations now motherfuckers.

1225
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 2: Motherfuckers is being really facetious with shit too. Man.

1226
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 1: When I heard him say that Dave Free was the man,

1227
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 1: I said, Man, this niggas just reached. But that was

1228
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 1: a reach. But it was a line that was more

1229
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 1: than real. Was a motherfucker line.

1230
01:00:58,120 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's it's him.

1231
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 3: He don't have no But I see, I seen a

1232
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 3: nigga say today and it was a It was a

1233
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 3: hip hop dude.

1234
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 2: I don't know if I read it today or who

1235
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 2: was that thing?

1236
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 4: Was it?

1237
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 3: When he said the dissing or something is just taking

1238
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 3: me out of it because now it's it's more about

1239
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 3: That was quess love quis love quis yeo exactly? It

1240
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 3: was Big Daddy. Big Daddy said, it's like motherfuckers want

1241
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 3: to know if your facts are true or they want

1242
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 3: to very He said, Nigga, when I was dissing niggas

1243
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 3: back in my days coming up, I lied and said ship, nigga,

1244
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 3: I fucked your mama in the back seat of my Cadillac. Nigga,

1245
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 3: won't he wom I ain't never seen a nigga mama in.

1246
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 2: My life, even though even when jay Z said, you know,

1247
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 2: condoms in the baby seat, I'm sure there was no

1248
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 2: condoms in the baby seat, right, no baby mama. I'm

1249
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna exaggerate a little bit. I mean, that's

1250
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 2: but that's part of.

1251
01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:00,160
Speaker 4: It because basically.

1252
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 3: That's the same thing like when we used to bag

1253
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 3: against each other. You get me with the bagger, your

1254
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 3: mom so fat, nigga, I slapped your mom on the ale,

1255
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 3: or your mom's fed me dinner after I came through

1256
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 3: last night.

1257
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 2: You give me.

1258
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 4: We all did that shit.

1259
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 3: It was just it was just we were just bagging

1260
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 3: comic through on each other.

1261
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 2: Nobody took that serious at the end of the day.

1262
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 3: Well, it might have been one nigga who couldn't handle

1263
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 3: it and then you end up scrapping.

1264
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 2: Okay.

1265
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 1: But you know what, though, Bro, I'm kind of with

1266
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 1: and this sound because I love the bat, you know,

1267
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 1: I like that messy shit, right, But I think I'm

1268
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 1: kind of with questlove and Big Daddy came and all

1269
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 1: of them shit can go to a point to where

1270
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 1: it goes too far. Because I got thick skin. I

1271
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 1: could take any motherfucker talking about me because I don't

1272
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 1: give a fuck you feel what I'm saying. But when

1273
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 1: you start involving my mama, my wife, my kids, some

1274
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 1: probably can happen.

1275
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 2: Dog some probably that off limits though? Is it off limits? Oh?

1276
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 2: Here's the thing right to your point. It depends on

1277
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 2: if you It depends on your enemy, bro, It depends

1278
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 2: on who you serve. It depends on who you battling.

1279
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 2: If you go and I don't want to make this

1280
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 2: hell dramatic, but if you look at somebody like if

1281
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 2: you look at World War two, how do you fight

1282
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 2: a Kamakze pilot? You shoot him down? It's a comic

1283
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 2: coze pilot. His whole game plan is to fly his

1284
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 2: plane into your into your ship. How do you fight

1285
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 2: a nigga like that? Right? If you fighting, if you're

1286
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 2: fighting a crash dummy, how do you fight? How do

1287
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 2: you fight a dude? Are they't afraid to die? You

1288
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 2: know what? We're gonna have to piece this up because

1289
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 2: ain't no no point in us doing this because I

1290
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:40,959
Speaker 2: got I got you to do tomorrow. Like, just because

1291
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 2: you ain't afraid to die, don't I got shit I

1292
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 2: gotta do tomorrow, you know what I mean. So when

1293
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 2: you when you're looking at the battle situation, it can

1294
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 2: go too far. But it depends on who you're battling,

1295
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 2: because just because you got limits don't mean I got limits. Yeah,

1296
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 2: what dude, definitely stir first, but you can't first if

1297
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 2: if you get into a hip hop into a rap

1298
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 2: beef right and eighties like it's all everything goes no

1299
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 2: hose barred falls count anywhere. He on that type of time,

1300
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 2: you like, look, we're gonna battle, but just don't mention

1301
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 2: my wife, my kids, my mom, and my grandma. You

1302
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 2: give him a whole syllabus on what he can't talk about, bro,

1303
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 2: and he just man, fuck that he teared up in

1304
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 2: the video. Fucked the syllabus. Fuck you your mama.

1305
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 4: Man, that's what.

1306
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 3: It's the same situation, Like I said, with the beef

1307
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 3: I had with me and with me and Homie, that's

1308
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 3: a fact. It's the same. And then we didn't even

1309
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 3: go there. You get me quick. Didn't say your mama.

1310
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 3: I didn't say your mama or your family or your kids,

1311
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 3: and nothing we didn't even go that route.

1312
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 4: We kept it on fuck you, fuck you.

1313
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 3: Our ship came behind the affiliations with the gang ship.

1314
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 3: That's what made our ship so fired up because it

1315
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 3: could have stayed on some nigga fuck you, fuck you,

1316
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 3: fuck you fuck you because we didn't even like you said,

1317
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 3: we didn't do this. We didn't do no crossing of paths,

1318
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 3: you get me, So it could have stayed on the

1319
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 3: fuck you fuck you rap suit until one day it'd

1320
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 3: have been like, yeah, I'm cool, I'm cool. But for

1321
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 3: the fact that outside of us, you got correct niggas

1322
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 3: over here and blood niggas over here.

1323
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 2: And then.

1324
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 3: I think what really happened, how it really got heated,

1325
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 3: was when the calling of the sets came into it.

1326
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 3: That's what took it to the next level. Because I

1327
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 3: tried to keep it because I was true hip hop nigga,

1328
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 3: even though I'm trying to gang bang and shit, I

1329
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 3: had real hip hop respect for hip hop. Thus I

1330
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 3: knew that dissing came aim to play in hip hop.

1331
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 3: I saw fucking Big Daddy Kane and whatever I saw

1332
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 3: LL and koom O D. I saw motherfucking k r

1333
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 3: S and mc shan and you know, I saw the distance.

1334
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 3: But my thing was when I ain't gonna talk about

1335
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:23,680
Speaker 3: a nigga mama or his kids, or his family or

1336
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 3: the set, I'm just gonna keep it on nigga, mean

1337
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 3: you on some rap shit, but then you get me.

1338
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 4: It came to play.

1339
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 3: With that situation because then trag New Park was mentioned.

1340
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 3: So now it's taking it out of the element of

1341
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 3: back and forth dissing each other, and now it's beefing

1342
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 3: now because now niggas are niggas are like, what the fuck?

1343
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying that the affiliation was tagged

1344
01:06:56,800 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 3: on to it. So like you said, I can't control

1345
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 3: old niggas. You give me I'm at home. I mean

1346
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 3: he spoke about it on a song. Niggas was at

1347
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 3: the club with them. I wasn't nowhere near around. I'm

1348
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:15,120
Speaker 3: one hundred miles away. But now other niggas are implementing

1349
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 3: themselves into it because oh, you spoke on us.

1350
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:21,919
Speaker 2: Now, if that ship between you and.

1351
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:25,479
Speaker 3: Eight, that's y'all, But now you're on us, So now

1352
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 3: we feel like we have to step in and represent

1353
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 3: you get me. So that's the differences of it. That's

1354
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 3: what came to play and all because I never thought

1355
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 3: of going, Hmmm, I'm gonna rap about this nigga baby

1356
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:43,919
Speaker 3: mama and his kid, or I'm gonna say something about

1357
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 3: his motherfucking mama or some shit like that. I've never

1358
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 3: once thought of doing some shit like that. I wanted

1359
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 3: to keep it hip hop, even though it was on

1360
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 3: some gangs.

1361
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 1: Shit, I think if you did a shit back like

1362
01:07:56,920 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 1: that back then, I think motherfuckers might have died.

1363
01:07:59,160 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 2: Though.

1364
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you you, like I said, we used to bag,

1365
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 3: but we knew we was doing friendly bantering, playing with

1366
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 3: each other, and nigga, you could bag against a nigga

1367
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 3: you didn't even know.

1368
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:17,759
Speaker 4: But it's on the aspect of like at.

1369
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:20,720
Speaker 3: A rap battle, we gonna battle, battle, battle, and then

1370
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:22,719
Speaker 3: at the end of the battle, all right, my nigga

1371
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 3: whatever whatever. That's just like if you bagging against somebody nigga,

1372
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 3: your mama this or your mama that, niggas know it wasn't.

1373
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 1: But even with bagging, you always get somebody to take off.

1374
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 1: You already get that one dude to get mad and

1375
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:35,679
Speaker 1: take off.

1376
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 2: Yes, that's why I said, you have to know who

1377
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:40,839
Speaker 2: you You gotta know you exactly got know you bagging

1378
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 2: against you gonna get That's what I was trying to

1379
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 2: explain to Elliott Wilson. Everybody ain't playing about this. You're

1380
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 2: not playing about your wife, your kids or whatever. His

1381
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:52,800
Speaker 2: homies ain't playing about the hood. Everybody not playing about

1382
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:54,880
Speaker 2: certain things. So you have to know who you dealing

1383
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:55,640
Speaker 2: with before.

1384
01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 3: You start, got it. You gotta keep it in that.

1385
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 3: You gotta keep it to sparring and don't let it

1386
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 3: turn into an actual boxing match. You get me, keep

1387
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:08,200
Speaker 3: it on spark, hey man, you know telling it to

1388
01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 3: hold up? Hold up, We ain't gonna go there. You

1389
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:13,799
Speaker 3: get me. But once, like I said, once you start

1390
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 3: going to personal shit depending on who you dealing with.

1391
01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 3: I don't even want to play with you no more.

1392
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 3: Now I want to.

1393
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 2: Fight or now it's gonna go to somewhere else. Got

1394
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:24,680
Speaker 2: my mama, What the.

1395
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:27,000
Speaker 3: Fuck my mama got to do with the fucking even

1396
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:29,600
Speaker 3: when you look at the n W the fuck my

1397
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 3: mama got to there with some hip hop songs and ship.

1398
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 1: You remember when Easy and Trey and them was going

1399
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 1: back and forth. You never heard the niggas say nothing

1400
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 1: nobody's mama nigga.

1401
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 3: You ain't seen your kid in ten in two years

1402
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 3: and I heard you wasn't paying child support and ship

1403
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 3: like they wasn't doing shit like that. Nigga was like, nigga,

1404
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 3: fuck you. Okay, yeah, nigga, fuck you nigga. And then

1405
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 3: niggas wasn't like I'm living in a girl heels or Nigga,

1406
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 3: I'm over here and Calabasas Nigga, Nigga, I'm pulling up

1407
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 3: in the in the eight fifty.

1408
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:03,840
Speaker 2: Nigga.

1409
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 3: Well, Nigga, I got the motherfucking Nigga was no, it

1410
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:11,120
Speaker 3: was just nigga. It was rap, fuck you, fuck you,

1411
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 3: and we're gonna leave it at then.

1412
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 1: Before we get up out of it. I gotta talk

1413
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 1: about this, right. I know Height probably don't want to

1414
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:21,560
Speaker 1: talk about this ship, but I got to. You know,

1415
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 1: Game took off on Ross.

1416
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 2: Right oh, with the he put he put the record

1417
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 2: out there.

1418
01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:28,680
Speaker 1: He put the record out Ross didn't even respond back

1419
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 1: to him. I told Glass, I said, Ross not gonna

1420
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:32,720
Speaker 1: respond back to him. I don't think he is either.

1421
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:35,800
Speaker 1: Why should he Why shouldn't.

1422
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 3: You think he's not gonna respond because he don't want

1423
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 3: no street beef no? Or do you think he just

1424
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:44,760
Speaker 3: feel like he's too superior to respond, I think he

1425
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 3: feels like he's above that.

1426
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:48,680
Speaker 2: He above that because you think about it, and he

1427
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 2: was just going at Drake. So why did all this

1428
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:56,800
Speaker 2: shit happen? Why did all of it? They were all

1429
01:10:57,640 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 2: they had the whole little.

1430
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 3: Click though, Oh, Ross, Drake, Game, Ross, Lil Wayne. They

1431
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 3: were all getting on each other's records break even with

1432
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:11,680
Speaker 3: Drake and and Ross and Drake and Future. They just

1433
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 3: get They just did a big record together, Drake in

1434
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 3: Future with the with the with the African girls sing.

1435
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 2: But what I've heard, I mean, I can't speak on

1436
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 2: these men. I don't know all. The only person I

1437
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 2: know personally is Game, and I know I know Ross too,

1438
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 2: But everybody else I don't really know them.

1439
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 3: Why Why do you think Game just jumped on Ross?

1440
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 3: Can I tell you?

1441
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 2: Game been trying to catch a catch a fade and

1442
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:35,080
Speaker 2: rapped for years though, even when he put out the

1443
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 2: documentary and not the documentary, uh the recent most recent

1444
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:41,360
Speaker 2: album he just put out with Hippoy, he was he

1445
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:44,680
Speaker 2: was trying to rap against eminem The game Game is

1446
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 2: a game is is Game is really like a really

1447
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 2: dope MC and Game is definitely and he's crazy, so

1448
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:54,640
Speaker 2: he so he'd be looking for a sparing partner, like

1449
01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 2: I think he look at it just like he really

1450
01:11:58,200 --> 01:11:58,679
Speaker 2: want to rap.

1451
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you one thing, he definitely. I'm gonna

1452
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 4: tell you one thing I.

1453
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 1: Do like about Game now is that he's not going

1454
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 1: there talking about you. He's the throwback to.

1455
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:09,600
Speaker 2: What I like.

1456
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 1: He's not gonna going in and talk about your mama,

1457
01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:15,040
Speaker 1: your kids. He's gonna say you fed and tripped over

1458
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:15,720
Speaker 1: trying to chase it.

1459
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 3: She's he gonna go my Nigga is a lyricist.

1460
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:22,720
Speaker 2: You know.

1461
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 1: He not gonna do no ship though I didn't understand it,

1462
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 1: but this is what I said, and I told you this.

1463
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 1: I said, Ross not gonna respond. But Ross is way

1464
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:37,920
Speaker 1: more capable of what motherfucker's given credit for us as

1465
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:38,639
Speaker 1: a hip hop head.

1466
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:41,800
Speaker 3: Why why would he just drake in that game? Why

1467
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:44,639
Speaker 3: he don't feel it's significant enough?

1468
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 2: No, I think that he just with everything going on

1469
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:49,720
Speaker 2: with with with Ka, he just he added on to

1470
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 2: that like he was like, Oh, we're finally going at this, dude.

1471
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 2: Let's go at this dude. Because I think they've always

1472
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:57,600
Speaker 2: had they little you know, stuff back and forth, and

1473
01:12:57,680 --> 01:12:59,640
Speaker 2: I don't know these things personally, I've always I just

1474
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 2: heard the stories about how you know, Drake get down

1475
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 2: and how he'll double cross people what they like. He'll

1476
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:06,760
Speaker 2: high at you like he'll come and meet through a

1477
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:09,200
Speaker 2: nice to meet you, a legend O G, you know whatever,

1478
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 2: and then you take a picture, Oh this is my wife,

1479
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 2: and he take a picture, and then you know he'll

1480
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 2: d M your wife type ship, Like that's the type

1481
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 2: ship I've heard about him. I don't I can't verify.

1482
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 4: That he's a playboy nigga.

1483
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:23,640
Speaker 2: I don't know if he slapped him or not. But

1484
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:26,439
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I've heard that that's how he get down,

1485
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:27,600
Speaker 2: that's how he moved.

1486
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:32,000
Speaker 1: Being politically correctcause you I don't know that well, I

1487
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 1: don't know.

1488
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:35,639
Speaker 2: So why do you think Ross won't go back at Game.

1489
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:38,840
Speaker 2: I don't think he. I don't think he looks at

1490
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 2: it as not. He think he's scared of a street fight.

1491
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:43,760
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a street fight. You know what, though,

1492
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:46,599
Speaker 1: I don't think my nigga Game will will he will.

1493
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:47,320
Speaker 2: He will.

1494
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:50,719
Speaker 4: He will want to fade. Like you said, he will fight.

1495
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 2: You and rap you. He'll do either or he cool cool.

1496
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 2: Why do you think Game?

1497
01:13:55,600 --> 01:14:00,160
Speaker 3: I mean Ross won't take that that that line that

1498
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:01,679
Speaker 3: game and tossed in the lake.

1499
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:03,599
Speaker 2: I don't think he tripping like that.

1500
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:06,800
Speaker 1: But you gotta remember Ross went again fifty when fifty

1501
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 1: was in his prime and survived just with sheer music.

1502
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 3: What you call that a pick and choose battle, like

1503
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:15,559
Speaker 3: you know Nigga's pick and choose who they fight. I

1504
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:17,759
Speaker 3: fight this nigga, but I ain't gonna fight this nigga,

1505
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 3: of course.

1506
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 1: You know what I have found to be odd though,

1507
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:24,560
Speaker 1: And again I don't know they do it because I

1508
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 1: don't want the mother for getting mad at making no

1509
01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 1: song about me shit, you know, But I just find

1510
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 1: it odd man, that Games one of That's biggest supporters.

1511
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:38,360
Speaker 1: You know, that was on a lot of Games albums

1512
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:40,760
Speaker 1: early on. You know, the game was popping, you know

1513
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:44,559
Speaker 1: what I mean. I just found it odd that it's

1514
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:46,800
Speaker 1: like he went at one of Ross's that you know,

1515
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:49,600
Speaker 1: Drake's detractors. He didn't get in the middle of it.

1516
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 1: Don't you think it was kind of weird he didn't.

1517
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:54,600
Speaker 1: He didn't get a mellow up that, you know, like

1518
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:58,559
Speaker 1: him going at Ross. What you mean, just out the

1519
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 1: blue like for notugh of no reason.

1520
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:02,679
Speaker 2: Oh, I think it's just in the spirit of him.

1521
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 2: He you gotta you gotta remember Game is an mc bro. Yeah,

1522
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 2: he is for ship but White Ross though, because Ross

1523
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:12,640
Speaker 2: is a Rosses in the middle of that stuff. And

1524
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:14,680
Speaker 2: he's like, oh well this is over now tag me in.

1525
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 2: Let's I want to get cracking with homie.

1526
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:19,640
Speaker 3: But like you said, a lot of people, just like

1527
01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 3: you said, he nigga. I'm looking for any nigga who

1528
01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:24,400
Speaker 3: want to give him up or sparing with as far.

1529
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:26,599
Speaker 2: As he might rap. Bro, he willing to rap against

1530
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:29,639
Speaker 2: whoever he want to rap, fade with whoever. He don't

1531
01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:32,360
Speaker 2: care who it is. He just want to rap fade

1532
01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:34,760
Speaker 2: and that I really don't think it's personal. I think

1533
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 2: he said it actually when he was when I seen

1534
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:39,240
Speaker 2: him on an interview, he actually said He's like, Bro,

1535
01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:41,519
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to beat up beat up nobody. I

1536
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 2: don't want to fight. I don't want nobody this rap.

1537
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:46,320
Speaker 2: He's like, I want to rap. I think he just

1538
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 2: really want to. I ain't man that he just I

1539
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:50,759
Speaker 2: guess he just shot and shut then.

1540
01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, he just shut.

1541
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:53,080
Speaker 1: It.

1542
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:54,160
Speaker 2: Mean, like I said, is.

1543
01:15:56,479 --> 01:16:00,200
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, you know, there's no rules in hip hop. I mean,

1544
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:04,760
Speaker 3: there's no there's no code to follow or whatever, like

1545
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:07,559
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's just, it is what it is.

1546
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 4: You could do business with a nigga. That's just in

1547
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 4: the regular world.

1548
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 3: You do business with a nigga today and everything is

1549
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:16,800
Speaker 3: all good six months from now. You like nigga, I

1550
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:19,240
Speaker 3: don't never fuck with you again. You get me, It's real,

1551
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 3: it's just business. You get me. What you think about

1552
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:26,559
Speaker 3: quest Love saying that the Tupacc hit him up.

1553
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:29,640
Speaker 2: He said it. You know, I saw, I saw a

1554
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:31,800
Speaker 2: quest said. I've seen I seen when he wrote and

1555
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 2: then also watchington. I also watched the video what he

1556
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:38,720
Speaker 2: said to read to respond to what everybody was saying

1557
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:41,400
Speaker 2: to him. And I understand where he's coming from. But

1558
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:44,599
Speaker 2: I don't think that. I think it's a I think

1559
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 2: it's kind of an archaic way to look at things.

1560
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:48,840
Speaker 2: And you have nuanced once you age. Y'all haven't been

1561
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 2: through a lot of shit in this in hip hop.

1562
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:52,920
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You just talked about your

1563
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:55,880
Speaker 2: whole thing with that. That's that for us. I was legendary,

1564
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:58,560
Speaker 2: you know, I was a kid like I don't you

1565
01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:00,599
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like, that's what I'm say the stuff, yo,

1566
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:02,679
Speaker 2: the stuff you was saying, the stuff y'all was saying

1567
01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:05,120
Speaker 2: on records that was real to us. We didn't even

1568
01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:07,960
Speaker 2: know that. It was like you was embellishing or you

1569
01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 2: was exaggerating. We didn't know. Like I'm thinking, like, oh,

1570
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:14,439
Speaker 2: it's really up, Like, oh, they see each other, they finish,

1571
01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 2: kill each other, you know what I'm saying. And then

1572
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:18,760
Speaker 2: and then hold on and then like when it comes

1573
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 2: to the other side of it, as being elder Statesman

1574
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:26,160
Speaker 2: and OG's you still have to have perspective and know

1575
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:29,320
Speaker 2: like if Ad is sitting down talking to somebody, and

1576
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 2: he talking to this person from this set, this hood

1577
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 2: and this person from this hood, and and they low

1578
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:36,880
Speaker 2: key and a rap beef, but it's starting to translate

1579
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:40,240
Speaker 2: into some street ship. He can speak to them because

1580
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:42,559
Speaker 2: he been through that before. It'd be like, hey, bro,

1581
01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:45,479
Speaker 2: I know y'all, y'all finna do y'all thing. Let me

1582
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:47,559
Speaker 2: just give you this game. I think that's the proper

1583
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 2: way to approach it from an OG's perspective, and just saying,

1584
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 2: y'all stoopid motherfuckers, you know you dumb. Not that quest

1585
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:56,200
Speaker 2: said that, but that's the that's the energy that they

1586
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:59,720
Speaker 2: were receiving it, like when Bill cosbying Oprah Winfrey with

1587
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:03,680
Speaker 2: go against hip hop or pull up your pants and

1588
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:06,599
Speaker 2: stuff like that. Yeah, that's cool, but you were once

1589
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:09,720
Speaker 2: young yourself, right, And so if you were once young

1590
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:12,320
Speaker 2: and you are authentically of the culture, then you should

1591
01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:14,479
Speaker 2: be able to relate to where they at in their

1592
01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 2: life and be able to translate that and be like, hey, bro,

1593
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:19,679
Speaker 2: I know that you want to go get your get back. Bro,

1594
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 2: let me show you how to do it in a

1595
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:23,599
Speaker 2: different way as opposed to just going on a public

1596
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:27,680
Speaker 2: platform and you know, bashing how they doing it. I

1597
01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:30,680
Speaker 2: don't think that's an effective way to communicate, you know, respectfully.

1598
01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:32,559
Speaker 1: You know what though, too, We are in the era

1599
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 1: man and where people don't really listen to what people say, right,

1600
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:39,439
Speaker 1: they'd take a small portion of what you say it's

1601
01:18:39,479 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 1: all clips and lead with that and say, well, man

1602
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:44,880
Speaker 1: eight went on there and dismantle them.

1603
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:45,719
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1604
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 1: It's like they kind of twist your words up. I

1605
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:51,080
Speaker 1: think what he was saying, and I kind of like,

1606
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:52,760
Speaker 1: once I looked at it, I kind of had to

1607
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 1: agree with him a little bit. It wasn't he was

1608
01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 1: saying the track was kind of R and B ish.

1609
01:18:57,720 --> 01:19:00,680
Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying. He didn't say nothing derogatory

1610
01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:02,760
Speaker 1: about the music. He could say he thought the track

1611
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 1: was soft.

1612
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:05,439
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I know that, but I'm not talking about that.

1613
01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:07,840
Speaker 2: I'm talking I know what he said. I'm not I'm

1614
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:10,679
Speaker 2: not saying that he bashed young young people or hip hop.

1615
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 2: I'm saying that's what they got from it. That's what

1616
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:16,840
Speaker 2: they received from it, right exactly. They didn't hear. He

1617
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:18,920
Speaker 2: was just talking about the music. He a request Love

1618
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:22,439
Speaker 2: is a real musicians and shit like he really is

1619
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:24,600
Speaker 2: a genius for real, so he understands, Like I just

1620
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:26,560
Speaker 2: don't understand. Why would you dis somebody with a R

1621
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:29,640
Speaker 2: and B record, you know underneath that or whatever, you know,

1622
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:32,599
Speaker 2: whatever the case may be. What he said, I understand

1623
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:36,880
Speaker 2: that how people received it though it's old. It's this

1624
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:37,839
Speaker 2: old dude hating.

1625
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:39,679
Speaker 4: On the way you all washed.

1626
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:42,519
Speaker 2: So what I'm saying is I'm learning this too. I

1627
01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 2: don't go in the studio and say this record trash

1628
01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 2: no more. I don't even volunteer my opinion. I wait

1629
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 2: for somebody to ask me my opinion, and then I

1630
01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:51,760
Speaker 2: give you my opinion. But that's something I had to

1631
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 2: learn as I've gotten older. And that's all I'm saying.

1632
01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:57,360
Speaker 2: I understand. I know what he was saying. He was

1633
01:19:57,400 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 2: just like, bro, why would you put this? Why would

1634
01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:01,519
Speaker 2: you make that kind of record over this music like this?

1635
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:03,320
Speaker 2: There's records for.

1636
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 4: That, right.

1637
01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:06,200
Speaker 2: I get what he's saying, because he's a real musician.

1638
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:08,760
Speaker 2: He really like is for real? You know what I mean?

1639
01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:11,920
Speaker 2: Quits Love's next level. Yeah, he's a real musician. I

1640
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:14,040
Speaker 2: get what he's saying. That's not what people took though,

1641
01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:17,120
Speaker 2: And that's what I'm saying. The message gets misconstrued when

1642
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:19,360
Speaker 2: you don't say it properly, or when you don't say

1643
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 2: it in a way that people receive it.

1644
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, because sometimes it's just the fact that some of

1645
01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:28,080
Speaker 3: these people, in this newer generation of that we have,

1646
01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:33,680
Speaker 3: you have to really dumb down shit for them to

1647
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 3: all the shit. Because you could say a word to

1648
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 3: a motherfucker they looking like what and it's just as

1649
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:42,160
Speaker 3: simple as plain as day.

1650
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:44,360
Speaker 2: But are.

1651
01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:51,120
Speaker 3: Our youth sometimes, you know, don't want to be educated

1652
01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:54,120
Speaker 3: to the simple fact of shit, you know. And like

1653
01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:56,680
Speaker 3: I tell someone, I say it all the time. I

1654
01:20:56,800 --> 01:21:01,679
Speaker 3: was once eighteen nineteen, I once had that head of nigga.

1655
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:02,559
Speaker 2: You old as monthful.

1656
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:04,840
Speaker 3: You can't tell me nothing, not that I did that

1657
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:11,960
Speaker 3: towards any of my OG's or anybody that I respected before.

1658
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 2: Me as far as hip hop is concerned.

1659
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 3: I never told a motherfuck, but I had that mind

1660
01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:21,679
Speaker 3: state of nigga. I'm young, nineteen, got a record nigga

1661
01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:25,600
Speaker 3: from the hood. You can't tell me a motherfucking.

1662
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:27,800
Speaker 2: I agree with you. That's just the youthful you bris,

1663
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:30,120
Speaker 2: you know, I think, But I also think to what

1664
01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:30,800
Speaker 2: you just said.

1665
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:35,479
Speaker 3: You think you know it all definitely until you don't,

1666
01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:38,800
Speaker 3: until you know you don't, or you mature enough to know.

1667
01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:39,679
Speaker 2: Damn.

1668
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:41,920
Speaker 3: I thought I knew a gang of shit, and I

1669
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:45,439
Speaker 3: really don't know a lot. So you start being able

1670
01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:50,639
Speaker 3: to accept and starting to be able to appreciate, being

1671
01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:54,080
Speaker 3: able to get mature and learn the right shit, like

1672
01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:57,600
Speaker 3: I said, because those critical years man for some.

1673
01:21:57,840 --> 01:21:59,600
Speaker 4: For us youth, it.

1674
01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:00,240
Speaker 2: Just be hard.

1675
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:03,160
Speaker 3: Niggas just be hard headed. I mean that's all. We

1676
01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 3: just be hard headed, especially if you come from the

1677
01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:09,280
Speaker 3: sides that we've come from. We be a little hard

1678
01:22:09,320 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 3: headed until we can mature enough to be like, you

1679
01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:14,360
Speaker 3: know something, it is what it is? You know what

1680
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:16,760
Speaker 3: I'm saying, i'm'a give it to you raw and none cut,

1681
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:19,280
Speaker 3: and I'm not trying to disrespect you or whatever. But

1682
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:22,759
Speaker 3: the knowledge that I've learned by now that I gotta

1683
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:24,640
Speaker 3: be able to talk to you straight up, you know

1684
01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:28,160
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So sure that only comes with maturity.

1685
01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:30,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think as you get older, man, you just

1686
01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:35,000
Speaker 2: have less time for the bullshit until motherfucker's what it is.

1687
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:37,720
Speaker 2: I'm with that. I I don't. I'm with that one.

1688
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:39,599
Speaker 2: Less time for it?

1689
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:42,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, sing that song and dance and the sugar coat shit.

1690
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:45,439
Speaker 3: It's just really a lot of wasted time, man's time,

1691
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:46,679
Speaker 3: real talk.

1692
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:49,960
Speaker 2: Waste the time, man. Well we about to se what

1693
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:50,519
Speaker 2: do y'all.

1694
01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:53,400
Speaker 1: Say, the perception that there's a West Coast bias that

1695
01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:56,439
Speaker 1: we support everybody from the West even if there's tight

1696
01:22:57,439 --> 01:22:59,800
Speaker 1: and does that say thing apply to me?

1697
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:04,160
Speaker 2: I want to want to recapt it, say the question again.

1698
01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:05,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to say. Use you know when you

1699
01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:07,479
Speaker 1: come in like that, Brian, you just sound like a

1700
01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:15,040
Speaker 1: nigga on the podcast Out of Nowhere. Well, I don't

1701
01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:23,280
Speaker 1: be question he said, is there a bias because niggas

1702
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:28,400
Speaker 1: feel like we support everything even if it's trash on

1703
01:23:28,479 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 1: the West Coast as far as to on the East Coast.

1704
01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 2: I'm I'm gonna say, but I'm so there's nuanced to it, though,

1705
01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:37,960
Speaker 2: And I don't want to get into a science class

1706
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 2: or a social studies class. But there's a reason why

1707
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:42,639
Speaker 2: things are set up the way they are. And that's

1708
01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:44,519
Speaker 2: a great question, by the way. But for the people

1709
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:47,840
Speaker 2: who listen to this show when it comes to West

1710
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:51,920
Speaker 2: Coast from a music standpoint, it's not just music, it's culture.

1711
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:54,599
Speaker 2: We are in Mexico, it is what it is. This

1712
01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 2: land was stolen from Mexicans. That's a fact. Go back

1713
01:23:57,080 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 2: and do your Google's right. So when you start, when

1714
01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:04,320
Speaker 2: you start to when you start to look at old

1715
01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:07,920
Speaker 2: West Coast music, don't get we support everybody else Los Angeles.

1716
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:09,960
Speaker 2: This is not I'm not making these numbers up because

1717
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:13,520
Speaker 2: I was in broad I'm in broadcasting Los Angeles specifically.

1718
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:18,320
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go La County, San Fernando, Orange County, and

1719
01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:24,160
Speaker 2: San Bernard and Riverside County. Eighty percent Mexican, eighty percent Latino.

1720
01:24:24,240 --> 01:24:27,840
Speaker 2: Those are real numbers, seven percent black. So when you're

1721
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:30,519
Speaker 2: making music, you're not making music for the homies in

1722
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:32,599
Speaker 2: your neighborhood. You're not making music for people who even

1723
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:36,000
Speaker 2: look like you. You're making music for what's for what's urban

1724
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 2: to us. Urban to us is not black because we

1725
01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:42,000
Speaker 2: make up seven percent of the entire black population that

1726
01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:45,200
Speaker 2: consumes music and media in this market, right, seven percent.

1727
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:48,120
Speaker 2: That's infants to senior citizens and everybody in between. But

1728
01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:50,600
Speaker 2: then geographically, for people who want to visualize it, or

1729
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:52,679
Speaker 2: go look at your Google maps and y'all could picture

1730
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:54,479
Speaker 2: this in your mind because you're from here. If you

1731
01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:58,599
Speaker 2: go Dackwaller Beach and you go east to the seventeen freeway,

1732
01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:02,800
Speaker 2: picture that. Then you go to the ten Freeway, and

1733
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:05,080
Speaker 2: then you go south to the to the South Bay

1734
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:07,320
Speaker 2: to Torrence. That's where all the black people is. And

1735
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:14,439
Speaker 2: writing down the little box tell me I'm lying, no, yeah, right, yeah, okay.

1736
01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 2: So that being said, LA is way bigger than that box.

1737
01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:20,760
Speaker 2: I just like La County and everything I just named

1738
01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:23,280
Speaker 2: is way bigger than that box. So when you think

1739
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:26,639
Speaker 2: about just driving down Wilmington, you'll go through two hundred

1740
01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:31,760
Speaker 2: hoods mm hmm in real life, Like you gee, what

1741
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:34,559
Speaker 2: I'm saying going down Central Like it's just so these

1742
01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:37,479
Speaker 2: things I'm trying to explain to people about the stigma

1743
01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:41,639
Speaker 2: of West Coast music or LA music specific California. Our

1744
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:46,320
Speaker 2: demographic is so skewed and specific that it's more white

1745
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:49,360
Speaker 2: people and Asians and Mexicans than us. So when you

1746
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:53,439
Speaker 2: make a song, it not only has to be relatable

1747
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:56,400
Speaker 2: to Black people, but it has to be relatable to Latinos,

1748
01:25:56,439 --> 01:25:58,880
Speaker 2: it has to be relatable to Asians and white people.

1749
01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:01,360
Speaker 2: And then you have the difficulty of going across the

1750
01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:03,439
Speaker 2: country to the other side, so you're not just a

1751
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:07,400
Speaker 2: regional act, and then your music has to be translatable

1752
01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:09,320
Speaker 2: to black people in the South who don't have the

1753
01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:12,280
Speaker 2: same experience as we do. There are two, No, they

1754
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:14,760
Speaker 2: just added one. There are three. There's some more game

1755
01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:18,439
Speaker 2: for y'all. There are three urban radio stations on this

1756
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:21,760
Speaker 2: side of the Mississippi River. Three urban meaning, I mean

1757
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:24,799
Speaker 2: you're looking to how the way stuff music is formatted.

1758
01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 2: There's rhythm rhythmic, which still just brought up, and there's

1759
01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:32,360
Speaker 2: urban and there's top forty chr formats. Right, So from

1760
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:35,040
Speaker 2: a demographic standpoint, the reason why television and radio are

1761
01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:37,840
Speaker 2: great barometers is because they do real metrics based on

1762
01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:40,280
Speaker 2: the census and stuff like that. So when Black people

1763
01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:42,760
Speaker 2: get them in forms in the mal you don't fill

1764
01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:45,240
Speaker 2: them out, or you don't vote, or the census they

1765
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:47,240
Speaker 2: come in, they come every year or every couple of

1766
01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:49,120
Speaker 2: years to your house, and you don't fill that out.

1767
01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:51,360
Speaker 2: That means that now you don't count when they doing

1768
01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:53,519
Speaker 2: them numbers, when they passing out them programs, when they're

1769
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:56,559
Speaker 2: doing when they doing them zip codes. And I'm sorry

1770
01:26:56,640 --> 01:26:58,760
Speaker 2: when schools get their funding based on the zip codes

1771
01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:01,880
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. Or media standpoint, when it comes

1772
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:05,520
Speaker 2: to music, you make your song. There are three stations

1773
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:07,880
Speaker 2: on this side of the Mississippi River that cater to

1774
01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:12,240
Speaker 2: black people. Three radio stations total. Okay, So if you

1775
01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:14,320
Speaker 2: go Texas and you go straight up the middle and

1776
01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:17,400
Speaker 2: you divide the United States in half, just look at

1777
01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:20,320
Speaker 2: it like basketball conferences. You got the Western Conference and

1778
01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:23,280
Speaker 2: you got the Eastern Conference. Right, It's crazy that Cleveland

1779
01:27:23,320 --> 01:27:26,679
Speaker 2: is in the Western Conference because that's the Midwest exact. Okay,

1780
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:29,840
Speaker 2: So if you look at it from a basketball standpoint,

1781
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 2: I'll give you another piece. The Mississippi River divides the

1782
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:37,759
Speaker 2: United States in half. When it comes to broadcasting, everything

1783
01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:40,960
Speaker 2: east of the Mississippi River is our w stations, w

1784
01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 2: k R, z WP like they're all W every W

1785
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:48,759
Speaker 2: up N. Everything west of the Mississippi River are K stations,

1786
01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:54,599
Speaker 2: K T e L A kPr kt L. I went

1787
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:57,160
Speaker 2: to school for this ship for radio. So look so

1788
01:27:57,880 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 2: and then if you go in San Diego and you

1789
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:02,800
Speaker 2: see stations like Z ninety, the reason why it's a

1790
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:05,400
Speaker 2: Z is because their actual broadcast antenna is not in

1791
01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:08,800
Speaker 2: the United States. It's in Mexico. That's why when you

1792
01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 2: go north to like you ride that Canada border, or

1793
01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:13,040
Speaker 2: you go south and you ride that Mexico border. If

1794
01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:16,160
Speaker 2: a station begins with Z, that means that they antenna

1795
01:28:16,160 --> 01:28:18,439
Speaker 2: that they broadcast on is actually over the border and

1796
01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:20,920
Speaker 2: it just come over here because it's cheaper, and you

1797
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:24,320
Speaker 2: know whatever the case may be. Long story short, every

1798
01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:27,200
Speaker 2: case station, with the exception of three radio stations are

1799
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 2: rhythmic stations. Rhythm. They cater to up tempo party Latino girls.

1800
01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:37,559
Speaker 2: That's it. So when you and then so then the

1801
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:42,000
Speaker 2: urban stations music, it's not fast, it's just it's tempo music.

1802
01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:46,800
Speaker 2: So when you're talking about urban music. NBA young Boy.

1803
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:48,439
Speaker 2: You ever heard the NBA Young Boy song on the

1804
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:53,120
Speaker 2: radio in La No, you won't hear that. You don't

1805
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:55,880
Speaker 2: really see GZ young Boy. You don't see Boosy Webber.

1806
01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:57,280
Speaker 2: You don't see none of them dudes out here doing

1807
01:28:57,320 --> 01:28:59,679
Speaker 2: shows like that. They make urban music. They make music

1808
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:02,360
Speaker 2: for black people. There's not enough black people to sustain

1809
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:04,800
Speaker 2: the ecosystem. If you did a show, whether it was

1810
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:07,400
Speaker 2: in nineties or today, and it was all black people,

1811
01:29:07,400 --> 01:29:11,800
Speaker 2: it wouldn't sell out right or on true. Okay, that

1812
01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:15,240
Speaker 2: being said, we don't have an ecosystem to sustain from

1813
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:17,920
Speaker 2: a music standpoint. So when you start to go in

1814
01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:20,040
Speaker 2: across the country and you translate your music to the

1815
01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:24,240
Speaker 2: other side. There are six urban radio stations just in Atlanta.

1816
01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:27,559
Speaker 2: There are six radio stations that cater just to hip

1817
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:32,000
Speaker 2: hop just in Atlanta. There's one urban radio station in California.

1818
01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:36,479
Speaker 2: So think about that, right, So there's one urb and

1819
01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:38,240
Speaker 2: that's because of Doc Winner, and shout out to him.

1820
01:29:38,280 --> 01:29:41,240
Speaker 2: He always wanted to empower, you know, the black person

1821
01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:43,799
Speaker 2: or the black people who have a stake in the culture.

1822
01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:47,000
Speaker 2: So we controlled the culture. We don't dictate the metrics

1823
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:49,360
Speaker 2: of it. We set the cools, but we don't control

1824
01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:52,479
Speaker 2: the money. We don't control the numbers. YG sold out

1825
01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:55,519
Speaker 2: the form I was there. If it was only black

1826
01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:58,479
Speaker 2: people wouldn't have sold out, definitely, you know what I'm saying.

1827
01:29:58,760 --> 01:30:00,439
Speaker 2: But you can do. They have a Chiplin circuit in

1828
01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:03,679
Speaker 2: the South webby boozygz Ross. They all do the chilling

1829
01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:05,519
Speaker 2: circuit out there. They go thirty thousand a night, they

1830
01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:07,280
Speaker 2: go from club to club, it be twenty five hundred.

1831
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:11,519
Speaker 2: So then hold on. Look. So then when you start

1832
01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:14,679
Speaker 2: looking at the music to your times. It's a long explanation.

1833
01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:17,400
Speaker 2: That's why I said it's deeper. But the long explanation

1834
01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:19,519
Speaker 2: is when you look at the music, the music has

1835
01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:26,040
Speaker 2: to line up so perfectly culturally, sonically, the tempo, the samples,

1836
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:29,160
Speaker 2: the everything has to line up so perfectly at one

1837
01:30:29,200 --> 01:30:31,479
Speaker 2: time in order for it to translate. That that's why

1838
01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:33,960
Speaker 2: we get that bias. That's why it's like if any song,

1839
01:30:34,120 --> 01:30:36,679
Speaker 2: any song that's ninety five to one hundred and five bpm,

1840
01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:39,720
Speaker 2: everybody assumed, oh, that's West Coast, that's a West Coast sound.

1841
01:30:39,720 --> 01:30:41,639
Speaker 2: I heard Officer say that when he went on the radio,

1842
01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:44,320
Speaker 2: and he was like, oh, Rick Flair drip, that's a

1843
01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:47,040
Speaker 2: West Coast sound. To beat every song that one hundred

1844
01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:49,040
Speaker 2: bpm is not a West Coast song. I'm a DJ

1845
01:30:49,160 --> 01:30:52,599
Speaker 2: by Tray, I mean d Jensen's Forever right. So if

1846
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:55,439
Speaker 2: you got Blow the Whistle Too Short, that's one hundred bpm.

1847
01:30:55,880 --> 01:30:58,400
Speaker 2: Rihanna with Drake What's My Name? Oh Na Na, that's

1848
01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:03,960
Speaker 2: one hundred bpm. You got Drake Passion Fruit, the disco

1849
01:31:04,080 --> 01:31:06,679
Speaker 2: song that he did, that's one hundred bpm. You got

1850
01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:10,519
Speaker 2: Lil John Get out of your Mind the techno get

1851
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:12,519
Speaker 2: out of Here. That's one hundred bpm. I just gave

1852
01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:14,920
Speaker 2: you four songs that's one hundred bpm. So I hate

1853
01:31:14,920 --> 01:31:17,479
Speaker 2: that bias when people say, oh, that's a West Coast

1854
01:31:17,479 --> 01:31:19,680
Speaker 2: song because it's because it got tempo and it's moving. No,

1855
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:23,000
Speaker 2: that's not true. It's just that you people don't understand

1856
01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:26,000
Speaker 2: and and and they shrunk the dance floor and got

1857
01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:28,360
Speaker 2: rid of the dance floor and created sections to sell

1858
01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:31,439
Speaker 2: more bottles. It's like a whole cultural overhaul that went

1859
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:34,080
Speaker 2: that we went through from a music standpoint, that made

1860
01:31:34,120 --> 01:31:36,640
Speaker 2: things of what they are now. That's kind of like people.

1861
01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:39,400
Speaker 3: Don't dance in the club no more man, And honestly,

1862
01:31:39,479 --> 01:31:40,280
Speaker 3: I don't think that.

1863
01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:43,599
Speaker 4: Honestly, I think.

1864
01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:47,879
Speaker 3: We're the one motherfucking coast that don't really support their artists.

1865
01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:49,719
Speaker 4: As much as they should.

1866
01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:51,120
Speaker 2: Well, that's what I was about to say.

1867
01:31:51,240 --> 01:31:58,639
Speaker 3: I think, I think, I think, I think down South

1868
01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:01,760
Speaker 3: and East Coast support which still are like they just

1869
01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:05,080
Speaker 3: don't support us here. Who is day though, I'm talking

1870
01:32:05,080 --> 01:32:09,040
Speaker 3: about people period are.

1871
01:32:09,439 --> 01:32:12,400
Speaker 2: Look at look at also too from not and I'm

1872
01:32:12,439 --> 01:32:14,560
Speaker 2: not I'm not copying. I'm not caping for these for

1873
01:32:14,920 --> 01:32:18,439
Speaker 2: any infrastructure or any people. But LA is also the

1874
01:32:18,520 --> 01:32:21,719
Speaker 2: number two market in the country. So this is another stigma, right,

1875
01:32:21,800 --> 01:32:23,920
Speaker 2: So the top five media markets in the country. Number

1876
01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:25,840
Speaker 2: one is New York. This is per capita based on

1877
01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:29,479
Speaker 2: population and people who consume media and music and stuff

1878
01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:31,840
Speaker 2: like that. Number one is New York, Number two is LA,

1879
01:32:32,160 --> 01:32:35,320
Speaker 2: Number three is Chicago, number four is Dallas, and number

1880
01:32:35,320 --> 01:32:37,759
Speaker 2: five is the Bay. That's those are the top five

1881
01:32:38,120 --> 01:32:40,800
Speaker 2: media markets in the country, right. So that's why if

1882
01:32:40,840 --> 01:32:42,680
Speaker 2: you get a song going in the Bay in LA

1883
01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:45,719
Speaker 2: and it becomes huge, you got the biggest, biggest movement

1884
01:32:45,880 --> 01:32:48,040
Speaker 2: going because two of the top five markets are in

1885
01:32:48,040 --> 01:32:53,479
Speaker 2: California right now. Now, the other part about that is

1886
01:32:54,200 --> 01:32:57,080
Speaker 2: when it comes to support in theory, you're right, but

1887
01:32:57,160 --> 01:32:59,519
Speaker 2: this being the number two market in the country, the

1888
01:32:59,560 --> 01:33:02,000
Speaker 2: majority people who consume media here aren't from here. This

1889
01:33:02,120 --> 01:33:05,400
Speaker 2: is number one transplant city in the United States. There

1890
01:33:05,439 --> 01:33:07,400
Speaker 2: is a number one transplant city in the United States

1891
01:33:07,439 --> 01:33:10,080
Speaker 2: of America. So not to say not to take away

1892
01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:12,040
Speaker 2: from New York, because New York is the number one

1893
01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:15,240
Speaker 2: market based on population, but out here, this is where

1894
01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:23,760
Speaker 2: everybody comes, actors, actresses, publicists, music artists, entertainers, dancers, songwriters, showrunners,

1895
01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:25,800
Speaker 2: people who write TV, people who already this is the

1896
01:33:25,880 --> 01:33:29,360
Speaker 2: number one transplant place to come. So it's not that

1897
01:33:29,439 --> 01:33:32,880
Speaker 2: we don't support our people, it's not really enough of

1898
01:33:32,960 --> 01:33:36,400
Speaker 2: us in position and the infrastructure to move the needle.

1899
01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:40,639
Speaker 1: Well, what I was going to say was this when

1900
01:33:40,640 --> 01:33:44,519
Speaker 1: we was down South, ain't getting way more love down

1901
01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:47,080
Speaker 1: here than me get out here. And it sounds crazy

1902
01:33:47,120 --> 01:33:49,240
Speaker 1: as it sounds. So we at this spot. It's a

1903
01:33:49,280 --> 01:33:52,599
Speaker 1: girl from South Carolina that come up to him rapping

1904
01:33:52,640 --> 01:33:56,679
Speaker 1: his shit word for word. I just thinking, I think

1905
01:33:56,720 --> 01:33:59,800
Speaker 1: the thing about la is La is just too cool too.

1906
01:34:01,000 --> 01:34:03,479
Speaker 1: Everybody out here is a actor. Everybody out here is

1907
01:34:03,479 --> 01:34:06,160
Speaker 1: a actors. Everybody out here as a rapper. Every one

1908
01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:10,360
Speaker 1: you meet is a DJ. This is the me too

1909
01:34:10,439 --> 01:34:12,360
Speaker 1: state for real. You feel what I'm saying, Oh you

1910
01:34:12,400 --> 01:34:12,680
Speaker 1: do that?

1911
01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:15,120
Speaker 2: Me too. I do that too. Yeah. I actually went

1912
01:34:15,280 --> 01:34:17,320
Speaker 2: went to a party BT weekend. It was more people

1913
01:34:17,320 --> 01:34:19,400
Speaker 2: in the VIP line and it wasn't the regular line.

1914
01:34:19,600 --> 01:34:22,919
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. It's like, Nope, like your addicts,

1915
01:34:22,960 --> 01:34:24,120
Speaker 1: nobody wants to be regular.

1916
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Speaker 2: You could have got in faster by going in general

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Speaker 2: mession and get in in the VP line. That was

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Speaker 2: a true story, but it was. But that's what it is.

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Speaker 2: And I think the Me and Glasses talked about this.

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Speaker 2: The one mistake I think a lot of us made,

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Speaker 2: which I'm not making that mistake anymore, is running away

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Speaker 2: from Hollywood. That's what this place is. So when you

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Speaker 2: when you when you shun it and go against it,

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Speaker 2: it's more like now you're putting yourself on the outside

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Speaker 2: of the business instead of just using it for what

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Speaker 2: it is. What it's there for. Right, Hollywood has become

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Speaker 2: a negative connotation. Oh you in Hollywood. Well no, I'm

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Speaker 2: actually going Westwood or Brentwood, to be honest with you.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, here we around be here all night man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah for sure, we missed around be here all night man.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you coming down to sit with us. Man.

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Speaker 2: What night This homegrown radio come on, what day? We

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Speaker 2: don't have a specially to day. We just drop episodes.

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Speaker 2: But I do have another Shoulders coming probably for the

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Speaker 2: next two weeks. That's I'm gonna be announcing it. Just

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Speaker 2: keep it locking my stay on my socials.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, whish wish your Instagram, man, I don't just assume

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Speaker 1: everybody know who the hell you is.

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Speaker 2: E D djhead dot com. Check it out.

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Speaker 1: And on that note, we go holler at show next week.

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Speaker 1: Do me your favorite though, Hit that subscribe button, hit

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Speaker 1: that light button, leave a comment, whatever, you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Yeh, another thing, Come on, I was looking at