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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to this edition of big Fish Small Pod.

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Speaker 1: We're here on big Fish Small Pod. We give you

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Speaker 1: everything about the Marlins for that particular day in ten

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Speaker 1: minutes or less. And welcome to this edition of the podcast.

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Speaker 1: And welcome also the first time guest on big Fish

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Speaker 1: Small Pod. He is world famous for being J. J.

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Speaker 1: Bladay's biggest fan and the best Marlins beat reporter maybe,

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Speaker 1: mister Isaac Azoud. Isaac, it's great to have you on.

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Speaker 2: What an introduction, Dan, I appreciate the kind words. This

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Speaker 2: is the first time that you and I have ever

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Speaker 2: been on a pod. I know we do our live streams,

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Speaker 2: but whether it's on filtered or Phisiology, this is our.

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Speaker 3: First time being on a pod together. So little milestone

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Speaker 3: there today, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: For sure.

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Speaker 1: And speaking of milestones, we'll go ahead and talk about

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Speaker 1: the best picture in the Marlins organization, or I should say,

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Speaker 1: in their farm system. Mister Uri Prez, who is having

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Speaker 1: himself a heck of a week, including just a couple

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Speaker 1: of days ago, going six innings, two hits, horner run

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Speaker 1: ending of that outing him going one hundred miles per hour.

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Speaker 4: In the final at that of that game. What have

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Speaker 4: you seen from Uri?

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Speaker 1: And is this someone that we could see relatively soon,

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Speaker 1: maybe before the All Star break.

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Speaker 2: You know when you say best picture in the organizations,

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Speaker 2: you know, maybe not too far off.

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Speaker 3: But to answer your question, I think we do see him.

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Speaker 2: It was obviously reporting the Miama Herald today that they

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Speaker 2: then I think beyond that, you know, late May, early June.

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Speaker 2: I would say before June fifteenth, I would expect him

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Speaker 2: to be in low deep apart making his first career start.

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Speaker 3: Obviously we'll get to.

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Speaker 2: The specifics later about which game it might be, which series,

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Speaker 2: so you play, so whatever. Fans would like to go

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Speaker 2: out and watch it live and do so. But he's

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Speaker 2: been fantastic. He had that little bit one trusty start

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Speaker 2: he has been absolutely dominant. Like you said, he pulling

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Speaker 3: Thus four starts, he has a.

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Speaker 2: One point two to three earned run average, allowing a

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Speaker 3: He's just been fantastic.

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Speaker 2: He's striking guys out, he's not walking too many batters one.

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Speaker 5: Two, swinging him in his high fastball at ninety nine,

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Speaker 5: first trip through the order, complete five strikeouts for Yuri

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Speaker 2: The only thing you gotta focus on, maybe is just

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Speaker 2: the lack of pitches in these starts. He hasn't gone

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Speaker 2: bit more, maybe ninety five, one hundred pitches. He hasn't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we saw Yury Perez in spring training and kind

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Speaker 1: you believe when looking back in that is something to

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Speaker 1: worry about Yuri Perez when he eventually does get the

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Speaker 2: No, because you know, even Skip mentioned, is he this

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Speaker 2: kid nineteen years old, twenty years old, going into a

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Speaker 3: He had to face a tough Saint Louis Cardinals team.

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Speaker 2: I remember correctly, Jordan Walker was the best player in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know here on fits Strutch would like

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Speaker 1: to do predictions and everything, and you know you do

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Speaker 1: predictions also. Do you have a prediction to where we

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Speaker 4: Do you want to give him a month or so?

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Speaker 3: Knowing the Marlins, I would think they wanted to be

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Speaker 2: That being said, they did maximyro on a weekend series

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Speaker 2: or they'll wait a few more weeks for the Pittsburgh

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Speaker 2: Pirates series. June twenty third to the twenty fifth at home.

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Speaker 2: I think it'll be one of those home weekend series.

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Speaker 2: Will they want to show off their phenom.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, either going up against former Marlin Digital Day or

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Speaker 2: But yeah, all I gotta say that is if Ladey

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Speaker 1: But you know, Uri definitely one of the positives organizational

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Speaker 1: wise for the Marlins. But currently the Marlins are two

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Speaker 1: games under five hundred. We're recording this just a few

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Speaker 1: hours before Game two of the Arizona Diamondbacks series. And Isaac,

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Speaker 1: from your point of view, just what do you think

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Speaker 1: the positives have been so far this season? Because I

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Speaker 1: don't think maybe that many people had them just only

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, when you talk about positives, the first

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Speaker 2: the only cycle in Marlon's history, Luisa Rise. He's just

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Speaker 2: been as good as advertised and he's ops he nine

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Speaker 3: He's just been the one only bright spot in this

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Speaker 2: I think Brian de la Cruz got off to a

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Speaker 2: he's getting things together again. Another positive that I really

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Speaker 2: like is Haysu Sanchez really getting it together lately.

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Speaker 3: He's got an ops of near the eight hundreds, which.

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Speaker 2: Is something that we didn't even think was possible when

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Speaker 2: he started the season hitting below one hundred. So offensively,

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Speaker 2: those are the positives unfortunately, and then the other positives

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Speaker 2: you gotta mention is a bullfit, you know, aj Puck Flora.

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Speaker 2: I know they had a bit of a tough weekend

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Speaker 3: But boy, the combination of Flora and Puck or his

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Speaker 4: Oh boy, they've the nol Burger there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, I think it's Kelsey a Lota said that, actually,

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Speaker 3: But Matt Barnes has been fantastic. Jacon Shaqua is on

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Speaker 2: They've just got a fantastic bullpen that is just adding

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to ask some other players and maybe

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Speaker 1: you could tell me if you believe that there may

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Speaker 1: have to be mentioned is Horice Hilaire. Obviously hitting two

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Speaker 1: really needed. What have been your thoughts on Horace Hilaire

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Speaker 1: And basically this is what the Marlins wanted when they

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like you said, low batting average, he will slug,

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Speaker 2: but most importantly this year he's a presence.

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Speaker 2: But right now he's hitting the ball much better in

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Speaker 2: he's a presence. He's a presence in that lineup, whether

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Speaker 2: he's sitting fourth, second, or third, major league pitchers are

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Speaker 3: And that's just the point.

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Speaker 2: When you have police a rise around him, when he

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're mentioning positives.

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Speaker 1: I know, I don't like to get into negatives, but

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Speaker 1: it's something that we have to talk about, and you

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Speaker 1: I think you're negative so far this season for the Fish.

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Speaker 2: I think the most surprising negative would have to be

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Speaker 2: the starting pitching, just not exactly getting deep into games

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Speaker 2: and having to overuse that great bullpen that we mentioned earlier.

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Speaker 2: You have injuries and Trevor Rodgers and Johnny Quato they're

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Speaker 3: We don't know when they would get back.

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Speaker 2: Johnny Cueto suffered an ankle injury in his triple A rehab.

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Speaker 3: Start, so that looks like a bit of a step back.

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Speaker 2: And Lozaro has just sort of been inconsistent, and you

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Speaker 2: that amazing start he had Brero when he's not walking

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Speaker 3: So wek for Miami.

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Speaker 2: So I think one of the main surprising negatives has

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Speaker 3: Then offensively, you just look at you.

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Speaker 2: Know, Jean Sigura and Avid Garcia, even Jazz Chism Junior.

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Speaker 3: They've all all gone off to slow starts.

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Speaker 2: But you know, you trust the track of the record

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Speaker 2: of Jean Sigura particularly, and you you assume he will

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Speaker 3: But at the same time, it's already May. What's the date,

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Speaker 3: May tenth.

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Speaker 4: May night, May night, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Already May night. You know, I think you're given. I

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Speaker 3: think you give until the end of May.

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Speaker 2: And if you know, still, if things still aren't going well,

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Speaker 2: you gotta look yourself from the mari when it comes

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Speaker 1: Yeah, especially pitching just has not gone well for Sandy

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Speaker 4: But they should, uh should to bring it up. But

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Speaker 4: I want to bring up another position and using your vernacular.

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Speaker 1: Isaac, not delish this position, which is the catcher position

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Speaker 1: for the Marlins. Does both guys have not gotten into

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Speaker 1: just any star any like getting hot. You had Nick Fortes,

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Speaker 1: who was the best hitting catcher between the two, but

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Speaker 1: he's only hitting his OPS is five to twenty six,

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Speaker 1: and you get to Jacob Stallings three thirty six ops.

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Speaker 4: He's averaging one. His batting average one one five h.

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Speaker 4: This is not good. This is not even average.

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Speaker 1: This is way below average, just for both guys, especially

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Speaker 1: Nick Portes, who we thought could take up more of

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Speaker 1: start we all hoped for just Isaac.

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Speaker 4: How do we fix this catching the stitch? And is

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Speaker 4: there really anyone that the Marlins canna look at?

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Speaker 2: So it's funny because the last two seasons, the last

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Speaker 2: two major league seasons of Nick Cortes, he got into

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Speaker 2: like this power stroke that I just didn't understand where

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Speaker 2: was not hitting home runs whatsoever. And all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one, he's hitting home runs. In twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty two, he's hitting home runs. This year, he was

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Speaker 2: off to a dreadful start, the worst I've ever seen

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Speaker 3: But then in the last.

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Speaker 2: Seven games he is getting it together a little bit

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Speaker 2: the player that he is made. I think it should

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Speaker 3: But since that home.

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Speaker 2: Run on the second game of the season, Miami has

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Speaker 2: not gotten a home run from their catcher. Since the

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Speaker 2: home run, which is absolutely bonkers. You assuming four Test

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Speaker 2: will be the main guy going forward, but I think

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Speaker 2: there's no fixing this. They have no other in house

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Speaker 3: Who knows if Stallings will last the whole year.

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Speaker 2: I assume he will, just for Sandy's SIT's sake, But

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Speaker 2: it's a it's a really tough situation behind the dish

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Speaker 3: No matter how good Stellings is at catching Sandy.

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Speaker 2: Play calling, no matter what it's he's got a negative

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Speaker 2: point for a war already.

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Speaker 3: He's hitting one to fifteen. Got six hits in fifty

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Speaker 3: two Amyes, six hits. I don't think I've ever seen

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Speaker 3: One one five, My goodness.

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Speaker 4: Would you trade for just any type of catcher?

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Speaker 1: Signing someone and maybe even Sandy Leone might even be

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Speaker 1: better than what we're seeing now in terms of hitting

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Speaker 1: them than some of these guys. Is there anything that

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Speaker 1: you would do? And let's say you're Kim Ang, Well,

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Speaker 1: what would you do. I'd help out the catch a position.

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Speaker 2: And if you consider training for someone midyear, which is

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Speaker 2: very rare, you don't usually trade some for a catcher,

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Speaker 2: you know, you usually like them to go through spring

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Speaker 3: Before they go to the regular season.

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Speaker 2: But if you were to trade for someone, want to

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Speaker 2: get someone that has history catching some of these guys

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Speaker 2: in Layonne is one of those guys. But no, I

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Speaker 2: don't think two plans on doing that. Maybe they can

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Speaker 2: give McIntosh a shot, but you don't really want to

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Speaker 3: I think they got.

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Speaker 2: To play out this year with those two guys and

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Speaker 2: Fortest Stallings.

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Speaker 3: Maybe a little bit of Macintosh sprinkled.

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Speaker 2: In there, and in the offseason they really got to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, before I let you go the last point of discussion,

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Speaker 1: I want to go ahead and talk about Sandy and

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Speaker 1: just the way he started off this season with a

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Speaker 4: But he did have a great start against the Cubs.

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Speaker 1: And you can maybe put it on skip from letting

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Speaker 1: they just figured him out. Just what have you seen

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Speaker 1: tes with starlings? Do you think that would help Sandy

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Speaker 2: I don't think the changing of the cashers would make

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Speaker 2: look at Sandy, the stuff is there, the velocity is

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Speaker 3: It sort of looks a little bit better than it

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Speaker 2: I think maybe some of the new rules have effect

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Speaker 2: that I asked if that after one of his starts

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Speaker 2: banning of the shift, And I think Sandy is a

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Speaker 2: big victim to that. You know, he's used to having

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Speaker 3: Ground balls are going through their.

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Speaker 2: Right side against him, and that's something that didn't happen

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Speaker 2: the Mardels secretly know and they're just trying to, you know,

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Speaker 2: the main issue with standing Because he's on a strikeout pitcher,

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Speaker 2: he gets a lot of balls on the ground and

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Speaker 2: smart individual, a fantastic pitcher, and I have no doubt

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Speaker 2: that he'll be able to he'll go back to some

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Speaker 4: Yeah. So with that, Isaac, I want to thank you

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Speaker 4: for coming on.

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Speaker 1: I know you have a busy day.

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Speaker 4: One of the busiest reporters here in fitz Draps.

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Speaker 1: But I want to thank you again for coming on

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Speaker 1: and you have an open invite.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Daniel, this was the list. You

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Speaker 3: can do this anytime