Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Debt Tatie and he Armstrong and Eddy.
Speaker 3: This is not just about books. This is about exposure
Speaker 3: to people of different sexual orientations. And the objection, the
Speaker 3: sincerely held objection that children shouldn't be exposed to this.
Speaker 4: Again, our clients are not raising those and we know
Speaker 4: that these kinds of objections aren't happening here.
Speaker 5: The board is imposing indoctrination on children.
Speaker 6: I thought Baxter did very well. I thought the Trump
Speaker 6: administration Harris, the assistance Solicitor General, also did extraordinarily well.
Speaker 6: And Baxter kept on shutting down the argument. You know,
Speaker 6: Jackson said, do you you don't have any affidavits or declarations.
Speaker 2: He said, yes, I do.
Speaker 6: And when he said when they said, well, you just
Speaker 6: don't want people to have access to this, and he
Speaker 6: said that's not true. He said, we have no objection
Speaker 6: to these books being available. This is very different from that.
Speaker 6: And then just as so am I er try to
Speaker 6: portray them as you just don't want people to see
Speaker 6: the image of a of a same sex couple. There's
Speaker 6: no real lesson here, and her own colleagues jumped in
Speaker 6: and said, there is a lesson here.
Speaker 2: There's a definite message being sent here.
Speaker 7: Which is, don't pay attention to so of my rror,
Speaker 7: don't even bother. She's she's talking abouttionate justice.
Speaker 8: We're talking about the We're talking about the book Pride
Speaker 8: Puppy and what you're going to hear more about in
Speaker 8: a second, and other books like that that are in
Speaker 8: school libraries.
Speaker 2: But that well, sorry I got to jump in.
Speaker 7: That's specifically what the lawyers were saying is not the case.
Speaker 7: It's that this is being taught as a curriculum aggressively.
Speaker 7: There's no you find the book on the shelf, check
Speaker 7: it out because you're interested. It's being given affirmatively to
Speaker 7: kids from ages three on and todd is part of
Speaker 7: a whole curriculum.
Speaker 8: Right, good point. I don't think they should even be
Speaker 8: in the library. I'm sorry why I would agree?
Speaker 2: Just why why is it there?
Speaker 8: Oh look, here's a dude explaining why Pride Puppy is
Speaker 8: a perfectly fine book and it's just hate.
Speaker 5: This is Pride Puppy by Robin Stephenson and Julian maclachlin.
Speaker 9: It doesn't get more innocent than a children's alphabet.
Speaker 5: Book see for Car or Old Chevrolet.
Speaker 9: But this one about a dog that breaks loose from
Speaker 9: its family while at a Pride parade. He is now
Speaker 9: at the center of a censorship case going before the
Speaker 9: US Supreme Court.
Speaker 5: It was pitched as a parental rights religious freedom case,
Speaker 5: when what I think it's doing is hiding hiding. It's
Speaker 5: hate really disguised as parental rights. And what people are
Speaker 5: taking offense at, I believe is the fact that Pride
Speaker 5: isn't the title, and there are Pride flags in the book.
Speaker 8: That absolutely not a censorship case. That is unlank and believable.
Speaker 8: Play that again, just because that thing at the beginning,
Speaker 8: I like.
Speaker 2: Play that again.
Speaker 5: This is Pride Puppy by Robin Stevenson and Jolie McLachlin.
Speaker 9: It doesn't get more innocent than a children's alphabet book.
Speaker 10: Right.
Speaker 11: That.
Speaker 8: I love that the news lady coming in. It doesn't
Speaker 8: get more innocent than a children's alphabet book. How in
Speaker 8: the world do you present that story like that and
Speaker 8: pretend you're a journalist. It's a censorship Supreme Court mascar
Speaker 8: rating is a parent's right case, rights case, as we
Speaker 8: tell three year olds about drag queens and and and
Speaker 8: and they can be a little girl. And we've had
Speaker 8: into every lesson in school. Yeah, yeah, censorship. Here's a
Speaker 8: little bit of a response video to that. And then
Speaker 8: I'll fill in some gaps.
Speaker 10: Today we're going to have a reading of Pride Puppy
Speaker 10: for all the beautiful queerdos and the late mister pants
Speaker 10: dancing over the rainbow bridge.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's it. I don't know what querdos are.
Speaker 8: I assume that's another one of her books, because she's
Speaker 8: some sort of a very popular author of this sort
Speaker 8: of thing. Quirdo's like, they call us weird because we like,
Speaker 8: you know, blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: So where's weird? Yes?
Speaker 8: And then uh, and then he goes through the Pride
Speaker 8: Puppy book and the the the basic story of the
Speaker 8: book is it's a a puppy that gets loose from
Speaker 8: its owners and runs through a pride parade.
Speaker 2: And then you see all these and I don't know.
Speaker 8: Why, the barking there is the Pride puppy there, and
Speaker 8: then they're trying to catch the dog, and then you
Speaker 8: see all these different colorful characters in the parade and
Speaker 8: all the rainbow flags and the drag queens are trying
Speaker 8: to chase the dog. And it's just an innocent book
Speaker 8: about teaching, you know, phonics to kids. And then in
Speaker 8: the back of the book they have they go letter
Speaker 8: by letter like you do in a lot of these
Speaker 8: sorts of books trying to teach reading through the alphabet,
Speaker 8: for instance, like I as in infant insulin, inflatable tube,
Speaker 8: sex flag, and insect.
Speaker 2: What of all the eye.
Speaker 8: Words that like you come in contact normally in your life,
Speaker 8: that you could.
Speaker 7: Say blue or ice cream inter sex flag.
Speaker 8: Instead of igloo or ice cream, you go with intersex flag.
Speaker 8: I mean, it's transparently hilarious what you're doing to get
Speaker 8: us through. It's this is for as young as three
Speaker 8: year old, is Justice Gorsuch kept pointing out, it's just to.
Speaker 2: Get your five year older or even your fifteen year.
Speaker 8: Old to say what's an intersex flag and get into
Speaker 8: the whole conversation.
Speaker 2: There's other examples under K.
Speaker 8: Kites, kiss drag king, knapsack keys, not king drag king.
Speaker 2: Under k Well, that way they got to put it
Speaker 2: under d NK.
Speaker 7: Boy the old we put in porn or how to
Speaker 7: have gay sex manuals in school. Then if you say, whoa, whoa, whoa,
Speaker 7: this this change you've brought, I don't like it, You're
Speaker 7: a censor. You're you're this is a censorship banned books.
Speaker 8: It doesn't get more innocent than a children's alphabet book.
Speaker 8: You're the person asking for change. Wait a minute, No,
Speaker 8: I'm not under l love Lion leopard print leggings, lippering
Speaker 8: and Ladybug leopard print leggings and lippering for your just random,
Speaker 8: easy to understand l words, not ladder. Why why are
Speaker 8: you doing this? There's a reason you're doing this.
Speaker 7: Yeah, to indoctrinate the kids into radical gender theory in
Speaker 7: queer theory.
Speaker 2: Yeah under Obviously.
Speaker 8: Under Q they had two words quilt and drag queen,
Speaker 8: not queen drag queen.
Speaker 2: What the hell?
Speaker 8: And again the dedication in the Beginnings for all the
Speaker 8: beautiful quirdos and the late mister pants dancing over the
Speaker 8: rainbow bridge. Shut down all government schools right now. That's
Speaker 8: the only answer. We'll have church schools, charitable schools, whatever,
Speaker 8: add hoc schools put together by groups of parents. They
Speaker 8: won't be perfect, but they'd be better than being indoctrinated into,
Speaker 8: you know, the hatred of your country and Western civilization,
Speaker 8: which the education system of this country is so infected.
Speaker 8: Good Lord, that book doesn't need to be in the
Speaker 8: freaking school at all. But as Joe pointed out, the
Speaker 8: problem is, this is like part of the curriculum they're
Speaker 8: saying you can't even opt out of for your three
Speaker 8: year old. I mean, they're making it that important. There's
Speaker 8: just no excuse for it being in the schools period,
Speaker 8: any of these conversations. Leave that to the parents. This
Speaker 8: is not the point of public school. Just reading, writing, math, science,
Speaker 8: all right, and then shut up about everything else. Let
Speaker 8: you know, deal with that in your own home and
Speaker 8: however you going, you alread, You read that book to
Speaker 8: your kid, fine, but the idea that that's mandatory for
Speaker 8: all kids is insane. Oh and the guy who did
Speaker 8: that clapback video, he pointed out that, so there are
Speaker 8: these various groups that give out awards to these books,
Speaker 8: and they're all each other giving awards to each other,
Speaker 8: so that you have an award winning children's book that.
Speaker 2: You put in your library and then you can make that.
Speaker 8: Lord, they're wanting to censor this award winning children's book
Speaker 8: on reading. Yeah, the awards from the Indoctrinating your Kids
Speaker 8: into Queer Theory Council.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's very clever, like we talked about earlier. I mean,
Speaker 8: you gotta tip your cat to the to the cleverness
Speaker 8: of you know, all the little tentacles that are into
Speaker 8: this whole thing, but the idea that I mean, some
Speaker 8: of these words are just hilarious.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I intersex flag.
Speaker 8: What what if I was gonna list a thousand.
Speaker 2: Eyewords, it wouldn't have popped it into my head?
Speaker 8: B is for bear and barn and bisexual, right, yeah,
Speaker 8: that is something. It looks like the Supreme Court agrees.
Speaker 2: With most of us on this. Uh. Yes, yeah.
Speaker 7: It was a absolute blood bath oral arguments wise, I
Speaker 7: was really enjoying argent listening to it.
Speaker 2: I'll listen to the rest of it today. But the
Speaker 2: only place where it got a.
Speaker 7: Little sketchy was, interestingly enough, Katanji Brown Jackson, who was
Speaker 7: pointing out that we have opt outs for this and
Speaker 7: opt outs for that.
Speaker 8: Surely government does how have the power to teach certain
Speaker 8: moral or cultural things are good in schools.
Speaker 2: That's part of the reason they exist.
Speaker 7: How you quoting a friend, how do you draw the
Speaker 7: line between saying parents can copt out, can opt out
Speaker 7: of the trans's fine stuff, but not out of MLK
Speaker 7: was a good guy stuff. And I'm not saying that
Speaker 7: line can't be drawn. But the answer really is, there
Speaker 7: is no answer other than I know it when I
Speaker 7: see it, or we need to establish certain fundamental values
Speaker 7: that are taught in schools and.
Speaker 2: Not let the other stuff in. Because it's one of
Speaker 2: the problems with having.
Speaker 8: Lawyers run the world, is this sort of thing. Yeah,
Speaker 8: I'm perfectly fine with the public for your local school.
Speaker 8: I know it when I see it. We'll pick We'll
Speaker 8: do it on an individual basis. I'm not writing a
Speaker 8: law that delineates it because I'd be impossible. And saying
Speaker 8: the Civil rights movement was a cause for good perfectly fine.
Speaker 2: All this crap in this.
Speaker 7: Book no, well, right, and that is why school boards
Speaker 7: or should exist.
Speaker 2: Now. Are there woke lunatics on school boards.
Speaker 7: Yes, but we on the same side of America are
Speaker 7: becoming more and more aware of how important it is
Speaker 7: to be represented there. So yeah, school boards can decide
Speaker 7: this stuff. The problem is in Montgomery County, Maryland, which
Speaker 7: is the case that we're talking about. The school board
Speaker 7: is just it is such a affluent, deep blue limousine
Speaker 7: liberal Look how enlightened I am.
Speaker 2: Nightmare.
Speaker 7: And so you've got parents of various religious stripes saying, Hey,
Speaker 7: our kids are being indoctrinated every single day from the
Speaker 7: age of three on into a philosophy and sexual stuff
Speaker 7: that I find repugnant and only rich.
Speaker 2: People can escape it.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Somebody, I don't forget who came up with the costs
Speaker 8: five figures to send your kid to private school? Somebody texted,
Speaker 8: it's six figures. What are you going to send your
Speaker 8: kid to a couple of years.
Speaker 2: Of private school?
Speaker 8: If you're going to send up a private schoo the
Speaker 8: whole their whole lives, it's easily six figures.
Speaker 2: Obviously, Yeah, that was an annual figure they're talking about.
Speaker 2: But but you know, you're either into it or you're not. Yeah.
Speaker 8: Uh. The the advantage they have on that other side
Speaker 8: is a well, what do you got it? What's wrong
Speaker 8: with a puppy running through a pride parade.
Speaker 2: And depicting that you just hate gays?
Speaker 8: No, but why do we have to Well, you'd what
Speaker 8: would be wrong with a puppy running through a Fourth
Speaker 8: of July parade.
Speaker 2: What's the difference? Eh No, I just don't want to.
Speaker 7: It's a celebration of our national identity and birth is
Speaker 7: a country that's normal. What you're describing is is obvious
Speaker 7: indoctrination of something that there's no need to have it
Speaker 7: in schools. Why don't you have a puppy run through
Speaker 7: a condom factory?
Speaker 11: Huh?
Speaker 2: Why didn't you have the puppy run through a swinger's party.
Speaker 2: Look at all the loud. Don't knock over the lube
Speaker 2: party or puppy. It's a freak off.
Speaker 8: Look there's ditty puppy because that would be perverse. The
Speaker 8: hell shut it all down. Yes, I'll write a book.
Speaker 8: Didty puppy and he runs through a freak off? Right,
Speaker 8: there's the woman who's being compelled to have sex against
Speaker 8: her will. Careful, puppy, did he might shoot you too, allegedly?
Speaker 2: Oh please? You people are sick.
Speaker 8: I got nothing against people and their choices in life,
Speaker 8: but stop grooming the children. Why and especially, as we
Speaker 8: say every single time, and I'll end with this, it'd
Speaker 8: be bad if they were doing well.
Speaker 2: At math and reading.
Speaker 8: But they're not oh my god, Okay, more on the way.
Speaker 12: From TSA officers now handing out reminder flyers starting May seventh,
Speaker 12: you'll need a real ID if you're planning to fly
Speaker 12: at DMB Officers nationwide long lines and long waits for
Speaker 12: appointments to get a real ID, but nearly twenty percent
Speaker 12: of current airline passengers don't have a real ID, four
Speaker 12: hundred thousand passengers a day. TSA is hoping not to
Speaker 12: turn passengers away if you don't have a real ID
Speaker 12: and you don't have a passport. That TSA says, plan
Speaker 12: on an extra thirty minutes for extra.
Speaker 7: Screening, okay, Or just say I am an illegal alien
Speaker 7: and they'll say, okay, get in that line over there,
Speaker 7: you don't need an ID.
Speaker 2: That made me feel bad about myself.
Speaker 8: Only twenty percent of current flyers don't have the real ID.
Speaker 8: I assumed it was the vast majority of us, but no,
Speaker 8: it's a small minority.
Speaker 2: Okay. I was at the airport the other day.
Speaker 8: They were handing out that piece of paper to all
Speaker 8: of us, uh, saying, don't forget your real ID. I
Speaker 8: started the process yesterday and on the website, and we'll
Speaker 8: see how this turns.
Speaker 2: Out.
Speaker 8: I look forward to paying the stupid tax of waiting
Speaker 8: in line for something that I knew was coming for
Speaker 8: years and again, as you keep pointing out, Joe, yes,
Speaker 8: this is to deal with the terrorists on nine to eleven,
Speaker 8: two thousand and one exactly.
Speaker 7: So you're gonna be pulled out a line. No real
Speaker 7: id on this one, Jim, Oh my goodness, come over here.
Speaker 7: You do you know, oh, Sama bin Laden, are you
Speaker 7: part of al Qaeda? You know you're gonna be asking
Speaker 7: people and they're going to say, what's al Qaida? You know,
Speaker 7: you're some nineteen year old that happened before I was born.
Speaker 2: Why do I hate? Yeah? I know, I know. Yeah.
Speaker 7: So A couple of food related stories worth passing along
Speaker 7: mentioned this briefly earlier, but it's interesting. In recent years,
Speaker 7: scientists have found that some additives like emulsifiers, dies, artificial sweeteners,
Speaker 7: and there are a dozen other things, are linked to
Speaker 7: health problems, but the studies have generally focused on the
Speaker 7: impact of one substance at a time or a type
Speaker 7: of additive, which makes sense if you understand the scientific method,
Speaker 7: but that's not the way people consume them, of course,
Speaker 7: and ultra processed foods often contain a cocktail of additives,
Speaker 7: and I do enjoy a cocktail.
Speaker 8: Now again, if I eat a bunch of skittles, I'm
Speaker 8: gonna get red dye number ten and yellow dye number
Speaker 8: fifteen and blue dye number one.
Speaker 7: On a mulsifier and a preservative. And many people eat
Speaker 7: more than one ultra processed product in a day, so
Speaker 7: they're getting multiple cocktails. So a new study conducted by
Speaker 7: researchers from several French universities and research institutions found that
Speaker 7: some common combinations of multifiers, colors, and sweeteners was associated
Speaker 7: with high risk of type two diabetes beyond what could
Speaker 7: be explained by the individual substances alone. This suggests that
Speaker 7: when some of these substances are eaten together, the negative
Speaker 7: health impacts may be compounded. So they're looking at it
Speaker 7: in a more real lifey way.
Speaker 8: Yeah, this seems fairly obvious. Surprise, we're just getting to
Speaker 8: it now, but yeah, there you go.
Speaker 7: I get the scientific problem with having multiple variables in
Speaker 7: one experiment, but I mean that's the way it's taken in.
Speaker 7: So another quick food related story, farm robots or farmbots,
Speaker 7: if you ever, are getting much closer to reality the
Speaker 7: way they navigate between rosa crops, for instance, is changing
Speaker 7: in a way that relies less on GPS and more
Speaker 7: on just they're looking at the strawberries and they can
Speaker 7: see they're two inches from the strawberry. They're supposed to
Speaker 7: be two inches from the strawberries, and so they can
Speaker 7: do all the stuff, which reminds me of early on
Speaker 7: in the illegal immigration discussion. People will say who's going
Speaker 7: to pick the lettuce, and we would always say somebody
Speaker 7: or nobody or a machine. Well, the machine is gaining
Speaker 7: on the outside and coming on.
Speaker 5: Fast, Armstrong and getty.
Speaker 1: President Trump lashing out at Ukraine's president vladimir's Lensky on
Speaker 1: social media, writing he can have peace, or he can
Speaker 1: fight for another three years before losing the whole country.
Speaker 1: The man with no cards to play should now finally
Speaker 1: get it done.
Speaker 2: Trump angered by.
Speaker 1: Zelinsky's refusal to accept a US proposed peace deal that
Speaker 1: would prohibit NATO membership for Ukraine and would include Ukraine
Speaker 1: giving up land that Russia has seized since its invasion,
Speaker 1: in addition to giving up CRIMEA.
Speaker 8: Is it fair to say we're at an inflection point
Speaker 8: on this whole thing?
Speaker 2: This is just not a another little blip in this story.
Speaker 8: This seems like this could really be a big deal,
Speaker 8: which is probably why the Wall Street Journal editorial board,
Speaker 8: New York Post editorial board both out with pieces today,
Speaker 8: both you know, Republican leading publications really pretty horrified at
Speaker 8: Trump continuing to bad mouth and pressure Zelensky while giving
Speaker 8: putin a complete pass. We'll hear more from jd Vance
Speaker 8: in a second on that. Well, let's hear a little
Speaker 8: more from Trump as he explains himself.
Speaker 11: I will say that I think Russia is ready. And
Speaker 11: a lot of people said Russia wanted to go for
Speaker 11: the whole thing, and they've I think we have a
Speaker 11: deal with Russia. We have to get a deal with Zelensky,
Speaker 11: and I hope that Selensky. I thought it might be
Speaker 11: easier to deal with Selensky. So far it's been harder.
Speaker 11: But that's okay, It's all right. But I think we
Speaker 11: have a deal with both.
Speaker 8: One more and then we'll discuss if I may this
Speaker 8: deal that you have with Russia, does it include recognizing
Speaker 8: Russia's sovereignty over PREMEA.
Speaker 11: Well, everything is good. Look, I just want to see
Speaker 11: the war end. I don't care if they're both happy.
Speaker 11: They both signed an agreement. I have no favorites. I
Speaker 11: don't want to have any favorites. I want to have
Speaker 11: a deal done now.
Speaker 8: I don't think Trump is like a puppet of Putin.
Speaker 8: I don't think Putin has something on him, you know,
Speaker 8: on that stuff.
Speaker 2: But I don't get it.
Speaker 8: I don't get the lack of willingness to call Putin
Speaker 8: a really bad guy, the aggressor, a war criminal. Why
Speaker 8: why does he not want to say Why does he
Speaker 8: need to say bad things about Zelensky and refuses to
Speaker 8: say bad things.
Speaker 2: About But what's the point. I think it's just a
Speaker 2: question of leverage.
Speaker 7: He can say anything he wants to Zelensky and Zelynsk,
Speaker 7: he still needs the US's help. He feels like he
Speaker 7: cannot alienate Putin or else his scheme of and I
Speaker 7: don't mean scheme in a negative way, his hope of
Speaker 7: ending the war will be for naught. So he's got
Speaker 7: to lure him into the bargaining.
Speaker 8: So we have an update on the story just since
Speaker 8: this morning, because overnight Russia launched the deadliest attack on
Speaker 8: Kiev since the war began. So how does Trump not
Speaker 8: take that personally? So you're in the midst yesterday of
Speaker 8: doing all the things I just mentioned, saying, you know,
Speaker 8: friendliest things about Putin, bad mouth and Zelenski, and.
Speaker 2: How does Putin reward him?
Speaker 8: And Trump saying you get to keep Crimea, you get
Speaker 8: to create, keep all the land.
Speaker 2: I'm saying Ukraine can't be part of NATO. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm handing you all this stuff. And how does.
Speaker 8: Putin reward him With the biggest attack on the capital
Speaker 8: of Ukraine since the war started, and now it is
Speaker 8: twelve and one hundreds dead? Are twelve dead, hundreds injured,
Speaker 8: and they might find more dead people. So Trump wasn't
Speaker 8: happy about that, and he did respond.
Speaker 2: I've got it right in front of me.
Speaker 8: I'm not happy with the Russian strikes on Kiev. Not
Speaker 8: necessary and very bad timing. Five thousand soldiers a week
Speaker 8: are dying. Let's get the peace deal done. But even that,
Speaker 8: I mean, I'm not happy with this bad timing and
Speaker 8: not necessary is pretty tapid. Yes, yeah, And Putin's thinking, well, okay,
Speaker 8: as tapid as that is, I can continue this on
Speaker 8: for weeks or months, grab more land, kill more soldiers,
Speaker 8: weaken the Western leaning regime of Ukraine even more.
Speaker 7: Thereby cementing my control over it, and then in six
Speaker 7: weeks time or six months or whatever, I say to Trump, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 7: you're right, we really need to come to a deal,
Speaker 7: and I will will be welcomed at the bargaining table.
Speaker 2: So why would I stop?
Speaker 8: Like Trump and his post yesterday said, if Zelenski wants
Speaker 8: CRIMEO so bad, why didn't they fight for it eleven
Speaker 8: years ago when it was handed over to Russia without
Speaker 8: a shot being fired? When Russia overwhelming went in with
Speaker 8: overwhelming force, got no support from Ukraine, had almost no
Speaker 8: support from anybody at the time. They just militarily talk
Speaker 8: about not having the cards. They just couldn't stop the
Speaker 8: bigger aggressor and their powerful army at the time. So
Speaker 8: Trump said, if you want CRIMEA so bad, why didn't
Speaker 8: you fight harder for it?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, crime is complicated just for cultural reasons and
Speaker 7: the history of it and the rest of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's ugly. I just I.
Speaker 8: What's your theory on this? What is your theory on this?
Speaker 8: I'm completely just doing let's hear from JD. Vans and
Speaker 8: then maybe we can have that conversation.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm going to echo something Secretary Rubio said, which
Speaker 4: is luck. We've issued a very explicit proposal to both
Speaker 4: the Russians and the Ukrainians, and it's time for them
Speaker 4: to either say yes or for the United States to
Speaker 4: walk away from this process. We've engaged in an extraordinary
Speaker 4: amount of diplomacy of on the ground work. We've really
Speaker 4: tried to understand things from the perspective of both the
Speaker 4: Ukrainians and the Russians. What do Ukrainians care the most about?
Speaker 4: What do the Russians care the most about? And I
Speaker 4: think that we've put together a very fair proposal.
Speaker 2: I don't see it. I don't see what. I don't
Speaker 2: see what has no interest in it.
Speaker 8: I don't see what Putin has had to give or
Speaker 8: what Ukraine gets.
Speaker 2: Out of this.
Speaker 8: We've looked at both sides and their needs and a
Speaker 8: fair proposal. Yeah, Russia gets everything they want and Ukraine
Speaker 8: gets nothing that they want.
Speaker 2: Is your proposal? Yeah, I don't know it.
Speaker 7: Hell you this, I don't I don't see a deal
Speaker 7: taking shape. Honestly. Well, let's unless Trump were to exhort
Speaker 7: enormous pressure, including military pressure, on Russia, which I just
Speaker 7: don't see in the cards.
Speaker 8: Well, I know some of you are pretty hardcore. We
Speaker 8: shouldn't be involved in this, and you agree with jd Vance. Obviously,
Speaker 8: the Wall Street Journal does not agree with that standpoint.
Speaker 8: Neither does the New York Post, and neither does Brit Hume,
Speaker 8: the senior political an analyzer on Fox. Here he is yesterday.
Speaker 13: He keeps pounding Zielenski and saying it's harder to deal
Speaker 13: with him than it is with Putin. Putin, so far
Speaker 13: as I can tell, hasn't agreed to much of anything
Speaker 13: except yes, he'd love to ann action CRIMEA, which was
Speaker 13: part of the proposal that's before him. Now, that's no concession,
Speaker 13: that's just that's just that, all that is is taking
Speaker 13: a gain. Zielenski resists that because crime up until the
Speaker 13: Russian invaded it ten years or so ago, was part
Speaker 13: of Ukraine. So I'm not exactly sure what the President
Speaker 13: is talking about when he says that Zelensky has been
Speaker 13: more difficult to deal with than Putin. You know, they
Speaker 13: have been a series of ceased fire proposals. Putin either
Speaker 13: hasn't agreed to them or has immediately broken them. I'm
Speaker 13: not sure you know what concessions Putin will ever be
Speaker 13: willing to make. But he's surely hadn't many made very
Speaker 13: many so far.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah, I just I don't know how deep
Speaker 7: we want to get into this. From Putin's perspective, Crimea
Speaker 7: is like what would be a good analogy there really
Speaker 7: isn't a good one for the United States.
Speaker 2: But it's like.
Speaker 7: The discussion about Greenland, except much much closer and much
Speaker 7: much more important. It's his only access to open water
Speaker 7: to the south there. And when it was part of
Speaker 7: the Soviet Union, which was the Russian Empire. And interestingly enough,
Speaker 7: Tom Cotton is starting to refer to the Soviet Union
Speaker 7: as Communist Russia, which I think is smart because he's
Speaker 7: bringing younger voters along they understand, you know, I think
Speaker 7: it's clever anyway. But when it was Communist Russia, they
Speaker 7: had twenty four to seven access to their ports through Crimea,
Speaker 7: obviously because it was part of the Soviet Union. And
Speaker 7: then post Soviet Union, the Ukraine and its government was
Speaker 7: still pretty closely tired tied to the former Communists and
Speaker 7: the oligarchs that took power in the rest of it,
Speaker 7: and so Russia had twenty four to seven access to Crimea.
Speaker 7: And then when the Ukrainian government started leaning strongly to
Speaker 7: the West, they started to lose access to this critical
Speaker 7: military asset, and that's why they invaded. So and I
Speaker 7: say that not to argue therefore Putin's a good guy
Speaker 7: and in the right. No, just explained to me the
Speaker 7: bargain that struck on Crimea that doesn't include something close
Speaker 7: to total Russian control that Putin would agree to.
Speaker 2: I don't see it. Well, that's my opinion.
Speaker 8: That's why we and NATO needed to arm Ukraine to
Speaker 8: the point that they militarily defeat Russia and drive them
Speaker 8: out of there, starting three years ago, actually starting ten
Speaker 8: years ago.
Speaker 2: But obviously that did not happen.
Speaker 8: Wall Street Journal, Mister Trump's current offer looks more like
Speaker 8: an ultimatum than grounds for a durable piece. Mister Trump
Speaker 8: is angry that Ukraine won't accept the deal that legitimizes
Speaker 8: Russia's occupation of Crimea, as if this is a minor
Speaker 8: map revision. Mister Trump likes to say that Ukraine doesn't
Speaker 8: have the cards, but it does have one. The President
Speaker 8: won't be able to abandon Ukraine without paying a heavy
Speaker 8: political price.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I agree with that.
Speaker 8: The Wall Street Journal editorial board I think Trump will
Speaker 8: pay a political price for letting Russia get its way here.
Speaker 7: I'm not sure. No, I don't think it'll be heavy.
Speaker 7: I'd be curious. I haven't seen polling on this recently.
Speaker 8: Well, the polling shows, and I saw it yesterday. The
Speaker 8: polling is Americans are still overwhelmingly like two to one
Speaker 8: in favor of Ukraine either winning or US supporting them
Speaker 8: or however ask the question, but I just I don't
Speaker 8: think it ranks as very high as an issue. Is
Speaker 8: my thing, yes, even if it goes against the majority,
Speaker 8: I just don't think most people care enough.
Speaker 7: Sure, every question like that is two tiered what would
Speaker 7: you like to happen? Then the follow up question is
Speaker 7: at what cost? How much would you be willing to
Speaker 7: pay for it? And I think the answer is not
Speaker 7: enough to get it done.
Speaker 8: The final word from the Wall Street Journal editorial board,
Speaker 8: mister Trump can still salvage a deal in Ukraine, but
Speaker 8: the current final settlement offer looks like it would set
Speaker 8: up mister Putin to win the war. An hour or later,
Speaker 8: the world's rogues will notice and mister Trump's had a
Speaker 8: will have only begun, which is my belief. I mean,
Speaker 8: if that isn't beyond a signal. It's like stating the president,
Speaker 8: she you can take Taiwan and we ain't gonna do
Speaker 8: nothing about it.
Speaker 2: Good luck U.
Speaker 8: Yes, correct, which again Trump and jad Vance might say
Speaker 8: that was true before.
Speaker 2: Russia invaded Ukraine, and it's true now.
Speaker 8: If China wants to take Taiwan, they're going to and
Speaker 8: we ain't gonna stop them.
Speaker 2: The world ain't gonna be able to stop them. Yeah.
Speaker 7: And I don't mean to come off as cynical or
Speaker 7: having given up, although I have to some extent on
Speaker 7: certainly Crimea. You can't always go in reverse in life.
Speaker 7: Anybody with a little life experience can tell you that
Speaker 7: when you've concluded your stupid affair, for instance, with some
Speaker 7: waitress and realize you adore your wife and it's the
Speaker 7: single most moronic thing you will ever do in you life,
Speaker 7: well that's fine, but you're already there.
Speaker 2: You've already done it.
Speaker 7: And I think, to a large extent, the hesitation, the
Speaker 7: effeckless response to the Biden administration Russia's extremely strong interest
Speaker 7: in Crimea. At this point, there's no hit and rewind,
Speaker 7: there's no getting CRIMEA back. Russia owns it and will
Speaker 7: until the day I die. How about a bigger picture?
Speaker 2: The world order? Is that just over? Is that cake baked?
Speaker 8: Is it just the US led world order is over
Speaker 8: and it's coming apart?
Speaker 2: And that's just a fact?
Speaker 7: Yes, some ten percent or seventy percent, I don't know.
Speaker 7: I think it's more like probably twenty five percent.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 8: I think once it starts, I think it goes from
Speaker 8: ten to seventy in a couple of years.
Speaker 2: I don't think so.
Speaker 7: I think because we're still the strongest military on earth,
Speaker 7: although how strong like in the navy naval realm remains
Speaker 7: to be seen with China's incredible build up. I think remember,
Speaker 7: people react and countries react to that twenty percent going away.
Speaker 7: We don't just continue doing the same things. I think
Speaker 7: we rise up and say h oh as a nation.
Speaker 2: Call it the uh oh doctrine? Right?
Speaker 8: Any thoughts on that text line four one five two kftc.
Speaker 5: Arstaetti.
Speaker 14: We're in a waimo. It was going the wrong way.
Speaker 14: We called customer support. It stopped us right here and
Speaker 14: wouldn't let us out of the car, and we kept saying, hey, run,
Speaker 14: we're on a highway please. Cars kept honking at us
Speaker 14: and it would not move, it would not let us out,
Speaker 14: no one from customer support, but actually move the Waymo.
Speaker 14: So now we're walking on Mopack and our Waimo is
Speaker 14: still there. This is insane waybo.
Speaker 8: Ha ha ha.
Speaker 2: So that's a good story right there.
Speaker 8: So Waimo is the driverless taxis, which I know a
Speaker 8: number of people that have ridden in.
Speaker 2: I can't believe. I haven't tried yet. They have.
Speaker 8: They make them in Phoenix, and so Phoenix is covered
Speaker 8: in Waymo's and San Francisco I think is the only
Speaker 8: other city in America. I think it's just Phoenix in
Speaker 8: San Francisco right now that has Waymo's driving around. And
Speaker 8: I've seen them took place in Austin. Oh Okay, But
Speaker 8: I haven't ridden in one yet, and I've got to.
Speaker 8: But a buddy.
Speaker 2: He's not a buddy of mine. He's my insurance agent.
Speaker 2: He's a nice guy. I wish we were friends, but
Speaker 2: I don't think he likes me anyway.
Speaker 8: He was sitting in my cyberbeast the other day because
Speaker 8: I got rear ended, So you got to see your
Speaker 8: insurance agent anyway, and we were talking about automated driving
Speaker 8: and all that sort of stuff. And I was asking him,
Speaker 8: you know, what are the insurance companies gonna do, because
Speaker 8: the claim is from Tesla that in twenty six they're
Speaker 8: going full Waimo. They're gonna go full automated driving where
Speaker 8: you don't have to pay attention autonomous driving like Waimo is,
Speaker 8: so you know, you can read or sleep or do
Speaker 8: whatever you want. And I said, are the insurance company
Speaker 8: is going to allow that? And he said, well, first
Speaker 8: it'll be the state allowing it legally. And remember Weimo
Speaker 8: came into like San Francisco. Originally they had the rights
Speaker 8: to drive them around. Then the city shut them down
Speaker 8: for a while where a couple of wrecks that I
Speaker 8: don't know how they earned their way back, but they
Speaker 8: drive all over the place and the city allowed it.
Speaker 8: So it's possible the state of California allows. Of course,
Speaker 8: wouldn't that be something if they don't allow Tesla autonomous
Speaker 8: vehicles because they hate elon right a political thing. So
Speaker 8: here's what happened to these people.
Speaker 7: They came to a merge where two lanes became one
Speaker 7: and the car just stopped. This is on a major
Speaker 7: highway and as the lady described, the cars were honking
Speaker 7: and they were stuck for over five minutes, and they
Speaker 7: just requested to be let out of the car to
Speaker 7: walk the rest of the way. They were on the
Speaker 7: phone with a Waymo person, and the representative kept insisting
Speaker 7: I need a specific address before unlocking the vehicle, and
Speaker 7: the group told them over and over again.
Speaker 8: We're at the merge lane. There's nothing an address for
Speaker 8: a merged lane. How do you write a letter to
Speaker 8: a mergelne one two three where two lanes meets boulevard anyway, So.
Speaker 2: The car suddenly unlocked.
Speaker 7: As they walked away, the car remained in the same
Speaker 7: spot at a further distance.
Speaker 8: The car suddenly roared back to life and drove past them.
Speaker 8: Now it wants to go, she said on her video.
Speaker 8: The uh go in the wrong directions one thing, you know,
Speaker 8: you don't want to be late to where over your
Speaker 8: head or something. But the on a freeway stopped and
Speaker 8: I can't get out, I would be seriously one worried
Speaker 8: and two angry with the product. I'm on a freeway
Speaker 8: where I could get hit and I can't get out
Speaker 8: of this damn thing.
Speaker 2: That's nuts.
Speaker 7: Yeah, way Moss spokesman said passengers can always pause the
Speaker 7: ride and exit the vehicle by pulling the handle.
Speaker 2: Twice during the ride.
Speaker 8: The passengers in the video pressed the pullover button in
Speaker 8: the vehicle pulled to the side of a thirty mile
Speaker 8: per hour road with a sidewalk so quick, bitch, could.
Speaker 2: Be operator error, That's not impossible. Yeah, I suppose. I
Speaker 2: don't know. She sounds pretty sincere.
Speaker 8: Do you think this, well, they already have them, you know,
Speaker 8: way most Do you think this is gonna happen like
Speaker 8: in a couple of years where there's gonna be lots
Speaker 8: of cars driving around you can sleep in and drink
Speaker 8: or whatever.
Speaker 7: I don't know what the laws are going to be,
Speaker 7: uh that, whether legally you can or just effectively you
Speaker 7: can wink nod.
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably Wow. We do another hour.
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